There are 90,000+ ballots to be counted, and more coming in every day.
Absentee ballots: 60,950 (postmarked by midnight on 11/4)
Early voting ballots: 9,507
Question (provisional) ballots: 20,178 (voters who voted outside their proper district)
Grand Total: 90,635+ (with more arriving every day)
Today the state will count 42,991 of the absentee ballots and 9,333 of the early votes. The rest will come later, hopefully by Friday. But no promises.
The districts that will not be counted today seem to be favoring Begich.
2 54.2 40.9 +13.3
5 55.7 38.0 +17.7
6 47.8 46.3 +1.5
36 53.2 41.7 +11.5
37 50.0 45.9 +4.1
38 65.3 30.6 +34.7
39 58.3 38.1 +20.2
40 58.8 37.7 +21.1
So even if Begich does not overtake Stevens in the vote count today, those remaining districts still leave hope. An automatic recount is only triggered if the votes are exactly the same. However, candidates, or a group of 10 citizens can petition for a recount if the votes are within one half of one percentage point of each other.
And, of course, we’ll be looking to see if the House race, or local races take any significant changes. Two wonderful local Democrats, Pete Petersen and Chris Tuck are both ahead but by a very slim margin.
It’s 2:00 in Alaska, and still no numbers coming in. We weren’t sure if the numbers would come in one lump sum at the end of the day, or if they would release results throughout the day. I’m guessing if we haven’t seen anything by now, we’ll get the final daily tally this evening.
(stares at clock)
(h/t to Daily Kos for the number crunching)
UPDATE: Ted Stevens lead has now shrunk from 3300 to 971! Tuck and Petersen are holding their own. More to come.
UPDATE 2: Begich is up by 3 votes!!!
Mudflats 
AKM – Is there some logical reason why this vote is going so slow?
OoooHhhhhh!!!!
More waiting… Oh, geez…
I hear we wait until the 19th, actually.
See the new blog entry by Mike Myer, our local paper’s editor. What a worm!
http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/blogs.detail/display/658.html
Thanks for that update. District 5 would include Cecily!!
Come on, Al-ASSS’-ka
Let’s do this thing! And please know that there are a lot of people watching. You are not going to get away with tweaking the computer this year.
@katiebegood (14:13:26) :
After problems with 26 people voting twice in the primaries, they had to make sure that each of the absentee and early vote voters didn’t vote again on election day, so they’ve been spending the past week double checking all the names. Then they have to run the ballots through the machines… AND we still have another week for absentee ballots from overseas to make it in before they’re counted. Originally the election was supposed to be certified by Nov. 25, but I heard on the radio today that they may not be able to get that done till early Dec. 😦
AKM maybe you could align your columns a little?
checking in….close to 10!
District 2 is Juneau?
District 6 is??
Dstrict 5 is Angoon, Cordova, Craig, Gustavus, Haines, Klukwan, Hoonah, Hydeburg, Kake, Kassan, Klawaock, Metlakatla, Skagway, Tatitlek, Tenakee, Yakutat & surrounds
District 36-40 in and around Anchorage???
Oh Dear. I just revealed ignorance about the traffic lights in East Berlin and somebody responded “you are worse than Sarah Palin”. May I point out that I am not in the United States and not even near…..
A meaning has been coined? Even if she goes away, the impression won´t….
Hard to believe, but there on CNN is Sarah Palin telling Wolf Blitzer what Barack Obama needs to do to have a successful presidency. OMG!!Such incredible arrogance.
She just won’t let go… Still talking about Ayers, from hufpo
BLITZER: So looking back, you don’t regret that tough language during the campaign?
PALIN: No, and I do not think that it is off-base nor mean-spirited, nor negative campaigning to call someone out on their associations and on their record. And that’s why I did it.
—
SHIKAGO: So you feel it’s perfectly OK to almost incite riots by racist pigs like the KKK?
PALIN: Well, If I don’t and can see any problem in the inciting of real Americans for they and through out history as has said sometimes things occur we just have words, and their spoken for if, Shikago, by chance we see that, then we will just then plow through that door if it’s cracked some.
any word on the recount?
numbers closing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.elections.alaska.gov/08general/data/results.htm
or should I say count since they have never been counted…. Long day
@Shikago
I’ll say it again….WHAT about G. Gordon and his relationship with McNasty…HUmmmm? What about William Timmons – the lobbiest FOR Sadaam?
Can’t hear ya Sarah…speak up….
Here are the updated numbers! It’s now only a 971 vote advantage to Stevens!!!
US SENATOR
Total
Number of Precincts 438
Precincts Reporting 438 100.0 %
Times Counted 252549/495731 50.9 %
Total Votes 249692
Begich, Mark DEM 117631 47.11%
Bird, Bob AI 10117 4.05%
Gianoutsos, Ted NA 950 0.38%
Haase, Fredrick D. LIB 1766 0.71%
Stevens, Ted REP 118602 47.50%
Write-in Votes 626 0.25%
I’m sure that it’s just a coincidence that the pro-Begich districts will be counted last… long after Stevens has the chance to declare himself the winner, so as to accuse Begich of stealing the election if the numbers flip.
Yes, surely a coincidence.
** COUGH **
Has anyone got an answer for why turnout numbers in Alaska were lower than we might expect with Obama and Palin on the ballot? I’m still wondering about that issue…
Is there still a chance or have they completed the count?
@gizmo (14:31:54) :
I think once all the absentee and early votes are counted it will be closer to 61-62% of registered voters, which isn’t too far off from where some thought it would be. Being so far west of the rest of the US, there is thought that many Ds didn’t go out to vote when it became obvious that Obama was going to win. Not sure if that’s really what happened, but we certainly had more than the originally listed 47% turnout rate.
Goalie in NM
Three letters for Sarah, AIP. Associations she should talk.
@ lettersfromeurope
Check out the Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=palin
🙂
@mudslide pike (14:33:20) :
There is still a week for overseas absentee ballots to arrive, they were only counting ~50,000 of the 90,000+ outstanding (as of today) ballots today, and the results won’t be certified till at least Nov. 25, so there’s still hope.
Begich, Mark DEM 117631 47.11%
Stevens, Ted REP 118602 47.50%
Write-in Votes
that makes it only 971 diff????
why did they set aside the more begich areas?
Shikago, I think that you should stop channeling Palin. You’re too good at it. Don’t give her any ideas.
I grew up some near Chicago. A small place, Valley View, that was a subdivision of Glen Ellen. Went back 4 years ago and boy had it changed!
Small trees (two for each house) had grown up beautiful and strong. I still could remember how to get around though it had been 35 years.
Yikes
No matter what the results are, were with you Alaska… Chicago is standing by…
Pretty gullible porno guy, isn’t he? He can’t have seen the walk-in freezers at Palace Palin, nor realized that Todd will be likely to immediately go into the crab-exporting business in a big way.
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Sarah Palin porno offer increased to $3m and lifetime supply of Alaskan crab
Chris Parry, Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, November 13, 2008
It appears Bill Fisher, AKA 41-year-old pornography director Cezar Capone, is pushing ahead with his offer to pay failed vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin to appear in an adult film.
Fisher’s associates contacted The Sun Thursday to announce they were increasing the offer to $3 million with a lifetime supply of Alaskan king crab thrown in as a sweetener.
Fisher’s website, CezarCapone.com, is back online, as is PalinSuperMilf.com, the site featuring his public letter making the original offer to the Alaska Governor and her husband.
Fisher has offered to hold the money in escrow to prove he is serious about the Palin porn film, calling her a “beautiful mother recognized by all of America as well as the rest of the world – the most desirable woman over 40.” He also offered her husband Todd $100,000 and a new snowmobile if he’d partner up with his wife in the production.
On his MySpace page, Fisher states, “I have been shooting all my life. My Father was a photographer and I knew what an F-stop was before I could tie my shoes. I don’t shoot bikini-pop. I don’t do weddings. I don’t do press or paparazzi. I don’t do portraits or head-shots. I’m $15,000.00 a day and even if you pay me the 15K, I still won’t do your wedding.”
Palin still hasn’t publicly responded to the offer, which was sent to her administration office in Juneau, Alaska, on Nov. 6.
© Vancouver Sun
…..http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=edb0fad5-9cf3-4509-a12e-ef571f883765
@InJuneau
Thanks I keep hearing the Republicans voted for Felon Stevens knowing that he would step down allowing Palin to step into the Senate…
It’s looking good – fingers crossed!
Fingers crossed, salt over the shoulder, blue candle lit, how else can I help?
Good–no, great—thoughts going to the far northwest for Mr. Begich!
@Shikago…
LOL…Yeah…I would love to hear her talk about her good friend Joe Vogler.
@Northern Exposure (14:21:57) :
District 2 is Rural Southern SE, not Juneau (Rep. Peggy Wilson’s district).
District 6 is Rural Interior (Ice Worm District, Rep. Woodie Salmon’s district).
Dist. 36 is Kodiak area, Dist. 37 is Dillingham(?), Dist. 38 is Bethel, Dist. 39 is Nome, Dist. 40 is Kotzebue and the North Slope.
@Mona Lisa
thankyou. Should I laugh or should I cry!? I will send this link to all the english teachers I know ( a few).
Good luck Alaska with your count!
Goodnight from over here
The gap has fallen from about ~3,200 down below 1,000 (971) according to this page:
http://soaelections.gci.net/data/results.htm
SLIM PICKINS
Palin keeps offering her Energy expertise to the new administration…this time, in an interview with Blitzer of CNN. Apparently that rascal Blitzer has a wicked sense of humor, because he asked an Obama spokes person if Obama would be interested in PICKING PALIN’S BRAIN. (Not joking!).
The spokes person, not to be out done, answered WITH A PERFECTLY STRAIGHT FACE, that yes Obama would be interested….why not?
Long live bi-partisanship!
(Palin said other things, without saying anything else,of course)
@mudslide pike (14:37:19) :
Ah, that is all ver complicated. Even the Div. of Elections isn’t sure what could happen. Here’s a recent ADN article explaining what’s up with that…
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/569836.html
oops, that should be “very”, not “ver”…
Yep — Stevens lead cut to 971 votes. Looks good….
I would think Stevens should be relieved to lose. I can’t imagine that he
would relish the prospect of going back to Washington and being expelled
from the Senate by his colleagues.
Newfoundland Dogs Rule
I am in a very old part of the city on the far northwest side. Huge lots… Had a guy move in next door took out 8 old growth trees, 3 were black walnuts!. Total moron, wanted his house to look like a house in Niles, like crap. He removed a terraced flagstone 2 foot deep flower bed, the width of his house in front, (I actually did the labor, he gave me the stone, cause he didn’t want it…) and replaced it with Home Depot Blocks!!!!!???? What a dope. But, I built a beautiful pond with that flagstone!
Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com says there’s a good likelihood that Begich will overtake Stevens.
You’d think we’d get a recount if that happens, but the recount will almost certainly favor Begich. Looks like the people fixing the race forgot about the absentees and early vote. hahaha
Just got back in and the crackpot was on CNN! Please can we do anything to help you all pitch her out onto an ice floe? Knowing that she is only 5 minutes from me right now is just nauseating. If I see her I might just lose my lunch on her nice “out of our closet” suit! Please let Stevens go down in flames so the psycho cannot become a Senator. Ack!!!
Big Pete
SLIM PICKENS
You’re the funny one – HaHa!
Off to dinner… bbl
The Senate would help with experience, but Palin would need to go back to school and get educated up on Countries, Economy, Foreign Policy, and a class on speaking English. I don’t think she’s up to the challenge.
SLIM PICKINS, can you give us a link to that exchange between Wolf and the Obama spokesperson? That is hilarious.
HEY EVERYONE! GO VOTE FOR MUDFLATS ON THE 2008 WEBLOG AWARDS FOR BEST NEW BLOG AND BEST POLITICAL BLOG!! GO MUDFLATS!! I’ve already put in my vote 🙂
I think Sarah’s “shoring up the base” today.
Gads, please have her shut the he!! up!
@halcrow
Well, well well….something that she is at least QUALIFIED for…all the winking and blinking and flirting and laughing at “Nailin’ Pailin'” during the radio broadcast.
Yup…porno is right up her alley (pun intended)…
Keep my fingers cross for Begich. All these talks about Palin being the new generation for the Republican party and possible presidential candidate in 2012 is so laughable. It actually would be great for the Democrates if the GOP’s direction is following her extreme and narrow viewpoints. I would love to see how other Republican candidates expose her limited knowledge and demolish her in their primary debates in 2012.
Come on, Alaska vote counters, you can do it!
S.P. is in my state and blathering to Blitzer on CNN. I need to shower continuously until she leaves Florida.
Funny that she got a porn offer! After all, she was asked to run in order to be the political version of a “fluffer”. She had to excite the base! 😉
@mvngfwd,
She is only FIVE minutes away from you?
I do wish I could swoop down and rescue you honey! I’m so sorry that she poisons your beautiful Alaskan air!
Gah….extra prayers going up for you and all other brave souls having to share your space with “that one” (and not OUR ‘That One’!!)
Stevens & Belich gap down to 700 votes!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
WOOHOOT
Sparky
She may be shoring up her base, But Romney is busy on a cruise shoring up a bigger one, and guess who wasn’t invited?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/12/gop-heads-out-on-caribbea_n_143383.html
NPR just said our Joey B (and his lovely bride Jill) will meet with the Cheney’s tomorrow to go over new home and VP stuff.
oooo…Joe will be a gentleman, I’m sure, but I know he doesn’t take sh!t either (debate: “I think Dick Cheney is the worst VP in US history” or close).
underlying fireworks…stay cool Joe!
Cheney…I could give a rat’s ass
@Sparky,
Cheney is a rat’s ass….
only 300 votes ahead and Mat Su is already in!!!
Linda is on KUDO now!!!
[[[Hard to believe, but there on CNN is Sarah Palin telling Wolf Blitzer what Barack Obama needs to do to have a successful presidency. OMG!!Such incredible arrogance.]]]
She will continue to do this until interviewers start growing a set and challenging on her absurdities and lies.
To think of that **** PRESUMING to tell Obama what to do…GRRRRRR.
UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady (15:06:02) :
Sparky
She may be shoring up her base, But Romney is busy on a cruise shoring up a bigger one, and guess who wasn’t invited?
UK
Repugs: eating their young (and old and in-between). Yeah, Romney’s been doing a slow burn for a while, you betcha.
Thanks, InJuneau.
lettersfromeurope:
You can laugh, unless of course you are the head-Ampelmännchen…. 😉
@mudslide pike (15:10:37) :
Where are you hearing those numbers? The Div. of Elections posting still says the difference is 971…
Folks!
I just ran a quick spreadsheet comparing
the previous tallies to the new ones.
Begich is up +8% over Stevens in these
newly-counted votes, it appears. Someone
check my math, please…
Here is the raw data… Will look like
junk as a cut-and-paste, but… Looks
like Begich has a good shot, with about
35,000 more votes to count. –S.
CANDIDATE WAS NOW +/- % +/- % OF NEW
Begich, Mark DEM 103337 117631 14294 0.13832412398 0.51088316237
Bird, Bob AI 8919 10117 1198 0.13431999103 0.04281782766
Gianoutsos, Ted NA 807 950 143 0.17719950434 0.00511097609
Haase, Fredrick D. LIB 1516 1766 250 0.16490765172 0.00893527288
Stevens, Ted REP 106594 118602 12008 0.112651744 0.42917902713
Write-in Votes 540 626 86 0.15925925926 0.00307373387
[27979 NEW VOTES TALLIED]
[[[She may be shoring up her base, But Romney is busy on a cruise shoring up a bigger one, and guess who wasn’t invited?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/12/gop-heads-out-on-caribbea_n_143383.html%5D%5D%5D
BWA-HA-HA-HA!
Oh my, the GOP elite organized a cruise where they could start strategizing on how to pull their party out of the toilet, and Sarah Palin wasn’t invited?
What do you bet the GOP elite’s #1 item on their “to-do” list is:
1. Get rid of Sarah Palin.
I have new faith that the GOP knows the score with Palin and will Lee-Atwater her before 2012.
Palin thinks she’s sooooo damned tough. Just wait until the GOP political hit men come after her.
So Mitt Romney is no prize either!!!
NOTE: That’s 51% for Begich, 43% for Stevens among the 28,000 votes just counted. If he keeps this up among the ~60,000 left to count, Begich wins handily.
[[[…It appears Bill Fisher, AKA 41-year-old pornography director Cezar Capone, is pushing ahead with his offer to pay failed vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin to appear in an adult film….]]]
Oh PLEEASE! Who wants to see her saggy old beaver flapping in the breeze?
She’s had five kids, for crying out loud, and she isn’t a spring chicken, either.
The world has gone mad, I’m telling you, absolutely stark-raving mad.
Comment written on last thread:
Best of luck to Alaska for the recount- I suspect if Ted lost even some smart Republicans would be relieved.
I’m still getting my American election fix from mudflats- like the girl in the current Doonsbury run.
http://www.arcamax.com/doonesbury/s-440013-629381
Today I acidentally surfed into far right vitriol site which was again calling Obama self-centered for making his Grant Park speech to his country alone on a large stage, without at least his wife beside him. A better-known Repub writer had said this right afterward, and this small-blog writer tosay added a complaint about Obama and his family travelling separately by plane and car and then meeting and entering places together as somehow devious and reprehensible.
What I saw on that stage was not a selfish man, but an extra-ordinarily brave man, standing alone at the apex of a 120 degree arc within which no other person was exposed to a possible gunshot. Probably that podium was bulletproof. I am sure he is quietly giving his family as much protection as possible, especially in the next four months. With his election, America came half way into the future. If he completes his term(s) without an attempt on his life from within the country, the other half of the journey will be accomplished.
The more recent Repub blogger was quite nasty and he was followed by uglier comments.
Mudflats is a lovely place to visit- (yes, I’ve also seen the Gulf at low tide).
AKM writes with reality and wit, not bluster and threats. I appreciate AKM’s views very much. I also appreciated Shikago’s dream of trouble in mudflats- after having been our (only?) witness in Grant Park. The way we can keep this a safe place for us all is not to get into the hate and bitterness of the man who demands to know why Obama is travelling alone.
Candles for the recount, anyone?
Kate in BC.
Via a secondhand source in the Begich campaign:
“The gap is only 40 votes, with 33,000 ones counted.”
Election Distraction (continued from a thread way back)–got to keep this going.
If that wolf’s front arm don’t do it,
Poppa’s gonna buy you a brand new drill bit…
AK-Sen: First update of the day
by kos
Wed Nov 12, 2008 at 04:01:58 PM PST
This isn’t the last update of the day, just the first:
Stevens (R) 118,602
Begich (D) 117,631
Kos has some AK votes up!
does any one know if there has been any change for JMC and our pres elect….
Go Begich…..WOOHOO…closin’ the gap.
Pray it happens…please let this happen!!
These close races (Franken, Chambliss, Stevens) are a blessing for the post-election depression. And they underscore the fact that your vote matters!
Hudson – 40 WOW!
It would be just cool to have Franken, Beglich, and Cleland bring it home.
Go Team!
@mhrt oregon (15:32:33) :
Not enough to make a difference. Still JM/SP at 60.49%; BO/JB at 36.79%.
Wishing the best for Franken and that recount in Minnesota.
Linda Green was on KUDO about 20 minutes ago and said that Steven’s lead was down to 300 after Mat-Su Valley with many district in Anchorage to be counted yet.
Norther Exposure – Yes indeed, if mainly for the pleasure of watching Billo’s head explode!!! TeeHee!
UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady (14:18:31) AKM maybe you could align your columns a little?
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No UK Lady, the columns have been discretely arranged by AKM to symbolize the crookedness of Alaskan elections. I think it is a brilliant touch.
@mudslide pike (15:41:50) :
Ah, thanks. The Div. of Elec. must not have gotten around to updating their site yet. It’s still got a 2:09 pm update listed.
lettersfromeurope – Unfortunately not everyone thinks that way. A colleague of mine in the states mentioned that with all of the press Alaska was getting lately because of SP it was a great day to live up here. Good thing we were talking on IM. I would have dropped the phone and laughed hysterically. Don’t get me wrong I love living up here. I wouldn’t call SP the reason for it being a great day to live up here!
Remember what Bev Harris said last night… even if our preferred candidates win, we must not let up our demands that all votes everywhere be counted and verified in a transparent fashion.
In the meantime, my best wishes to Begich and Berkowitz. I refuse to believe that the polls were wrong only in Alaska.
Lets hope the dem’s can pull off all 3 senate seats that are left to be counted. But, I have to admit, that out of the three I’m hoping the most for Begich. The outcome of this vote in Alaska is so damn important so that it leaves the world knowing Sarah Palin isn’t going to get a chance at that seat if Ted Stevens were to win and get kicked out.
Just dropped into the Introduce Yourself part of the Forum. 17 pages of fun to catch up on now that most of the vote is in. So many good reasons there to procrastinate on the rest of my “to do” list in Cecily.
MonaLisa(inCT) (14:34:16) : @ lettersfromeurope Check out the Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=palin
*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
I love this link. It is wonderful. Thank you for posting this.
hi mudflatters! dropping in to check on the election count….rooting for Begich here…and totally AVOIDING any of the Palin “interviews”….although I did read an excerpt from one today where see said she wouldn’t be “honored to work with Obama” and then in the next breath again brought up Ayers….it occured to me that it sounds like she wants to “pal” around with someone who “palled around with terrorists”!! Shame on you, Sarah!
Begich up by three votes!!!
http://soaelections.gci.net/data/results.htm
Yeah!!! Go Begich!
Yup, here are the numbers with Mark up 3!!! 🙂
US SENATOR
Total
Number of Precincts 438
Precincts Reporting 438 100.0 %
Times Counted 267941/495731 54.0 %
Total Votes 264655
Begich, Mark DEM 125019 47.24%
Bird, Bob AI 10913 4.12%
Gianoutsos, Ted NA 1076 0.41%
Haase, Fredrick D. LIB 1961 0.74%
Stevens, Ted REP 125016 47.24%
Write-in Votes 670 0.25%
Deb,
Do you have that wrong? Did she say she “WOULD” be honoured to work with Obama?
Oh, BTW that’s a 3:29 pm update.
Begich ahead by 3 votes as of 3:50pm
Latest update by DoE:
Begich, Mark DEM 125019 47.24%
Bird, Bob AI 10913 4.12%
Gianoutsos, Ted NA 1076 0.41%
Haase, Fredrick D. LIB 1961 0.74%
Stevens, Ted REP 125016 47.24%
Begich up by 3 points!
she said “It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration” CNN
then literally in the next question, again brought up Ayers
Thanks to everyone keeping the rest of us informed on Begich/Stevens
go Begich..nice smile
GOOOOO Begich!!!!!
I wonder what time the final results of the day will be in at? Anyone in Alaska been told when they will stop counting?
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (15:42:44) :
Good one! You’re so right, the columns are perfect. Should never have doubted AKM>
in one of the first interviews I also heard her say she’d been gov. now OVER 2 years…..well she was ELECTED about a week over 2 years ago…but was not inaugurated until Dec….so saying she’s BEEN gov. for over 2 years is not exactly accurate…but was amazing to watch how easily that lie ROLLED off her tongue!
Begich is up by 3 if I understand the chart
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Begich, Mark DEM 125019 47.24%
Bird, Bob AI 10913 4.12%
Gianoutsos, Ted NA 1076 0.41%
Haase, Fredrick D. LIB 1961 0.74%
Stevens, Ted REP 125016 47.24%
Write-in Votes 670 0.25%
@concernedcanadian (15:56:59) :
Not sure when they’ll knock off for the day, but as I’ve pointed out earlier, overseas absentee ballots will be accepted for another week, and they’re still dealing with the rest of the absentee and early and questioned ballots that they’ve already received. I wouldn’t expect a final determination on this race till at least Nov. 25 if not a bit later.
For those outside who want to understand Alaska better. And for Alaskans who want to understand Alaska better. Great new post on Alaska by Wayne Mergler, Anchorage:
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=80756&catid=931
To Deb,
thank-you, your post said the opposite is why I asked. And Yes, I find she does contradict herself flighting around from answering one question to another. She really is a bimbo trying to look like she is educated. I haven’t watched her today, had enough of her last night on Greta.
UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady (14:13:37) :
————————
From the previous thread (I actually left the computer for a few hours), yes, Lee Atwater was one of the evil bastards who, suffering from a terminal illness, said (and I paraphrase) “Gracious, I just realized that I spent my entire career lying viciously about people, trying to destroy people, cheating creatively, and generally undermining and destroying the trust that is fundamental to the success of any democratic system of government. Oh. Gee. I’m sorry.”
ummmmm kids.. it’s tied! 3 votes ahead for Begich..!!!!!
US SENATOR
Total
Number of Precincts 438
Precincts Reporting 438 100.0 %
Times Counted 267941/495731 54.0 %
Total Votes 264655
——————————————————————————–
Begich, Mark DEM 125019 47.24%
Bird, Bob AI 10913 4.12%
Gianoutsos, Ted NA 1076 0.41%
Haase, Fredrick D. LIB 1961 0.74%
Stevens, Ted REP 125016 47.24%
Write-in Votes 670 0.25%
I hope SP realizes if Begich wins that will be a door slammed shut!
And not by God, but by the voters of Alaska.
Go Begich!
Atta boy, Mark Begich. You’ve been a very patient man. A good virtue for a Senator.
Look forward to having you work with the rest of those fine D’s in Congress and the brand spankin’ new adminstration–of the people, by the people, and for the people–led by our hero–Barack Obama. And that other guy with the outstanding record on environmental issues–Joe Biden.
Thanks Injuneau,
I was just asking because it would be nice to end the day today with seeing Begich with a BIG lead.
KO reporting the 3 votes up!!
This is just a quibblish thing, but why would they announce that they plan to count 9,333 of the 9,507 early ballots today?
KO’s got the last #s.. even if we beat him to it..!
even though it’s preliminary…GO BEGICH!
KO – Begich up 3 he says too!!
Strangelet, Strange how many tools that happens to aint it?
This is GREAT news.
Sunshine IS the best disinfectant.
Hold on, Sarah, sunshine had to detour over to this Senate race, but, don’t worry, it hasn’t forgotten about you.
Yay…up by 3…go Begich…
Going to dinner…
BBL
I want GOOD NEWS upon my return!
Begich is up by 3 votes!
Check it out!
http://www.elect.alaska.net/data/results.htm
@concernedcanadian (16:02:19)
yes, it sure would!
ok…I’m gonna grab a glass of wine and go watch KO….be back a little later! great to see some of you…I have actually done quite well this past week at fighting my mudflats addiction!
@concernedcanadian (16:02:19) :
Yes, it would be a great end to the day. Our normal workday ends at 4:30, but they may work later today on this. I’ve calculated that they’ve counted 44,389 ballots today, and I recall the press release said they were planning to do 50,000, so there may be at least one more update before they quit for the day.
On another happy note, some of the newly counted ballots have put some of the Ds in tight state races further ahead!
InJuneau : Thanks for the info.
An update from the ADN on how many ballots the Div. of Elect. plans to get through today: http://www.adn.com/elections/story/586989.html
Trini (15:04:10) : “fluffer” LOL
“Deb (15:55:43) :
she said “It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration” CNN
then literally in the next question, again brought up Ayers”
She deserves all the made up definitions on Urban Dictionary. I’m hoping she slips on ice and hits her head when she falls. It might make her smarter–she has nowhere to go but up in IQ points.
MSNBC says Begich up by 3–is that true?
I got a news alert . 🙂
Breaking News
November 12 2008
Today’s weather
Anchorage | Mat-Su | Kenai
33° low: 23 ° high: 35°
5 day forecast | aurora
sunrise – sunset
9:00 a.m. – 4:25 p.m.
Stevens-Begich Senate race narrows
It’s just getting started, but early results from this afternoon’s ballot counting in the contest for U.S. Senate show Mark Begich gaining ground against incumbent Sen. Ted Stevens.
In the middle of my cooking spaghetti—wow
Forty Watt (16:10:47) :
MSNBC says Begich up by 3–is that true?
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Yes that is true
Sorry didn’t read that this was already posted. Happy night–keep it up!
Sparky (15:06:24) :
I wonder if Cheney will tell Joe to go F himself. Actually, even if he did, I’m certain Joe would handle it.
Keith Olberman just announced that Begich is ahead by THREE votes. Is this right?
Here is the link for the AK election board if anyone wants to ‘watch’ it.
http://www.elect.alaska.net/
Do you need a lift? Here are some great pictures of our future president by Callie Shell.
Enjoy
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0810/callie-bp.html
For your entertainment while you wait for update – a song especially for Silly Sarah
“I Hear You Knocking, but You Can’t Come In”
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eqIQE4du6co
Begich, Mark DEM 125019
Stevens, Ted REP 125016
Yep – THREE! Begich has narrowed the lead by over 3,000 votes. Maybe there is hope for Alaska after all.
OT
Walt Monegan’s lawyer responds to report
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/134330
interesting read….
http://www.elections.alaska.gov/08general/data/results.htm
Begich is UP BY 3 VOTES!
Does this mean the ballots being counted tomorrow should favor Begich even more? That is what I thought AKM was saying.
and counting….way to go AK
I’m sorry. I just don’t get it. How could Alaskans vote Palin in as Gov? It is just so scary. She really does not have a grip on the issues at hand. She just glosses over the questions with fluffy answers. It’s just so scary.
That is great news Injuneau!
From the adn article you posted it seems they have another 10,000 votes to count as of 4:00 pm Alaska Time. Not sure how long it takes them, hopefully they have a hourd of honest counters there!
According to Nate Silver at 538, Begich is now in the lead by three points!
UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady (16:04:05) :
I can only hope they got the afterlife they should deserve if they really believed what they said they did.
copybook realist (16:13:19) :
Do you need a lift? Here are some great pictures of our future president by Callie Shell.
Enjoy
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0810/callie-bp.html
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thanks for these – I hope he puts that killer smile to good effect 😉
I had to laugh at the footnote on the cover …..
InJuneau (15:39:19) :
@mhrt oregon (15:32:33) :
Not enough to make a difference. Still JM/SP at 60.49%; BO/JB at 36.79%.
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thanks …..but ahhh poooo
Wow, wow, WOW . . . I have all my fingers and toes crossed for a Begich win. Also hoping Al Franken wins in Minnesota.
Three votes! Holy ****!
Good stuff akm!
I’d like to thank all the Alaskans, and anyone else for keeping us so quickly informed on this count here.
Have you heard about the new field of scientific study?
Palintology….
kas from Oregon (16:17:19) :
OT
Walt Monegan’s lawyer responds to report
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/134330
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Very interesting read indeed! One could make the case very convincingly that the good Governor and 1st Dood could very easily be staring at a perjury charge.
Just wondering-are they counting the Presidential votes too? I am just fantasizing that perhaps Obama got closer to McCain than originally thought or maybe even won!!!
@mhrt oregon (16:20:37) :
Well, it’s gotten a “little” closer, but not much:
McCain and Palin REP 161173 60.26%
Obama and Biden DEM 99085 37.04%
Cynthia, TX (16:18:21) :
I’m sorry. I just don’t get it. How could Alaskans vote Palin in as Gov? It is just so scary. She really does not have a grip on the issues at hand. She just glosses over the questions with fluffy answers. It’s just so scary.
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I think it’s because
a. They didn’t know every thing about they know now about her.
b. She didn’t look so bad compared to who was governor at the time.
The real question though is how 60% of Alaskans voted for McCain/Palin last Tuesday!
Cool beans!! Stevens should bow out gracefully, but I suppose that’s asking for too much…
kas from Oregon (16:17:19) :
Thanks for link, it was a very good read. I agree with Ocliberal, perjury awaits!
@ aussie bluesky:
I laughed at Barack’s first picture….looks like he’s got the infamous 5 O’clock shadow. Poor guy, wonder what time they hit him on that photo? Or maybe he is going to grow a moosetache and beard. He looks like my gang of men. Not alot of facial hair to grow anything substantial. lol
I have a question to Alaskans about Palin-speak. I particularly notice how she makes inordinate use of the words ‘here, there, this, that’, the effect of which is to pad out her sentences. It’s especially noticeable when she’s been asked a difficult question (make that any question), so it also seems like a device for stalling for time. Is that common ‘up there’ in Alaska, or is that her own unique manner of speach. And while we’re askin’, do people commonly scramble the word order in their sentences?
I just figured out what AKM really stands for: Anti Koolaid Medication. Sure fire cure for the red koolaid.
Three!
@PNW in PDX — I know plenty of stupid Alaskans, several of whom voted for her, and I’ve never heard them speak as poorly as she does. I know what you’re talking about with the word padding, and no, it is not some quaint way of speaking we have here in Alaska. The word scramble, too, is specific to her and other idiots of her ilk…
anxiously awaiting the results, but lmao @ Jeffrey Toubin and cnn. They cut the part of Blitzer’s interview where she was asked about the bailout of the auto industry. “it was clearly evident she had no understanding of the issue”. Then suggested she get educated on such matters before seeking higher office. Wonder if Cafferty will comment tomorrow?
concernedcanadian: For me, muddy though I may be, Begich is #3 on my wish list. GA is #1 (although doubtful), because Saxbe Chambliss deserves to have some limbs amputated. MN is #2, because Norm Coleman is a bigger dick than Ted Stevens, and even if Stevens wins, the Senate will throw him out.
I think it would be entertaining to see Palin run against Begich, but I also think it would be unlikely. Palin likesbeing Governor. If she became Senator, she could not commute from Wasilla, and would have to comply with Federal rules on things like per diem and family travel expenses. As Gov, she makes the rules. Also (also), if she ran against Begich and lost, she would have just terminated her upwardly-mobile political career.
So I’m thinking the special election would be Begich against “somebody”, and I think he’d have a good shot.
In any event, the results so far suggest that Begich is the likeliest victor, and I will be plenty happy about that.
I think it’s called dancing in circles trying to avoid questions, while puffing yourself up.
AKmuckraker:
is there any way of finding out how many donations planned parenthood got (or was it NARAL?) in honor of sarah palin?
It’s pushing a million dollars at this point. Not sure of the exact numbers. AKM
Re-ran my spreadsheet. The percentage of the newly-tallied votes for each candidate:
Begich 50.49%
Stevens 42.90%
With the remainder to the third-party guys.
Very solid margin there. It would be surprising if Begich didn’t pull this off.
Did you notice Sarah with Wolf on CNN, Saying Ted Stevens had 4 felonies, and Wolf said 7 felonies, and she said oh right?
@PWN in PDX
Sarah’s ‘word salad’ speaking style is not typical, based on my experience up here. However, I live in Juneau, not Wasilla.
ocliberal (16:26:54) : …..
The real question though is how 60% of Alaskans voted for McCain/Palin last Tuesday!
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(1) AK is pretty Republican-leaning
(2) Favorite son (or in this case daughter). Blue CA voted for Ron-bon twice (to my everlasting shame).
UK Lady
Really enjoyed the “I hear you knocking” by Dave Edmunds
So far…..it’s still valid!
You ol’ rock’n’roller….that was a BIG hit…in ’72?
Big Pete – You’ve sussed me out!
My Alaskan source now says that Begich is up by 400 with votes still being counted.
I take back swearing off Palin; only a temporary reaction to Greta’s sycophantic interview while she ate Brian stew.
The Wolfie interview was Hilarious:
Ayres still bothers her but – Puhleez hire me
Big 3 Crisis – I’m following the debate; but – personal accountability and predatory lenders?? (Hunh?)
Original bailout – ditto! (Hunh?)
Bush’s remaining term – what he’s doin’ helpin’ out the transition team!!
New ideas for the GOP future – executive experience of governors; we can’t vote present?? (WTF??)
ROTFLMAO!!
kas from Oregon (16:17:19) :
OT
Walt Monegan’s lawyer responds to report
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/134330
interesting read….
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interesting – youbetcha! Tim Stool Pigeon Petumenos ought to be properly embarrassed.
The Wooten court case is going to be so much entertainment. You can’t make this stuff up.
I’m reading stuff on Huffington and a breaking banner appears: Dems are leading by 3 votes!!!!
I’m so excited that Begich is up by 3! Woo Hoo!
@PWN in PDX – I lived in Eagle River for almost 5 years and never noticed that bizarre ‘word salad’-speak from any one in the Anchorage/Eagle River area. People up there were generally well spoken and educated. SP is a terrible representation of Alaskans to the lower-49.
ok….watching (and drooling) KO…..favorite quote about SP…”she is a a star in her own orbit”
teehee….
Election Distraction (continued from a thread way back)–got to keep this going.
“If that drill bit hits pay-dirt
Momma’s gonna buy an Escada skirt…”
Here is the Breaking News story from Huffington on ballot counting::
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/12/begich-takes-lead-in-alas_n_143432.html
KO update: the reporter covering the rep. gov. convention indicates that the party is not into Sarah, even tho Sarah of course is into Sarah… gives me hope that her fame and glory really IS only in her head…
Hudson – 400 Cooooool!!
Dragon Lady – she said WHAT!! any links?
Aussie Blue Sky – I so love Alaskan politics!
Awakenings ll 2008
Movie Plot:
An aging doctor, played by Robin Williams, is sent to Alaska by the CDC to investigate an airborne virus called Wasilla. The doctor finds himself with a village full of mentally comatose but ambulatory idiots. He is disturbed by them and the fact that they speak in an odd sort of word salad. When he finds a possible chemical cure, an antidote made from the mudflats he gets permission to try it on one of them. When the first patient awakes, he is now an adult having gone into a coma in his early teens. The film then delights in the new awareness of the patients and then on the reactions of their relatives to the changes in the newly awakened.
as a speech/language pathologist (and having taught speech communications at the college level)…I want to SUE the journalism instructors who taught her to use “also” as a filler….typically we try to discourage students from using any fillers like “uh” or “uhm” she obviously didn’t GET it…and continuously uses the “also” instead. I bang my head on the nearest hard surface every time I hear it!
Deb – yes, that was Margaret Carlson; “a star in her own orbit.”
Pawlenty already threw her under the bus by saying “drill, baby, drill” is not an energy policy.
Are we all ready for Larry at 9? Hope it is as hysterically funny as Wolf.
Oh – when Wolf said – “I’m still waiting for an answer to my question.”
If I ever see Greta in person I’m going to curl my tongue and make a Giant Sucking Sound.
Mona Lisa – You sure that’s not Prada – coz we all know who wears Prada.
strangelet (16:12:20) : Sparky (15:06:24) : I wonder if Cheney will tell Joe to go F himself. Actually, even if he did, I’m certain Joe would handle it.
Yeah, Joe’s an interesting character, Strangelet. Loves most everyone, but if someone acts the a$$hole, he’ll nail ’em. Then smile. Joe can take care of himself…he naturally sets off a-holes I’ve heard. He’s almost oddly honest…can’t not tell the truth. Most can’t help but love the guy.
Funny that honesty thing. Obama said that was a big reason (and multi-talented) he wanted Biden.
Go Begich, go Begich Gooooo!
This is a very exciting evening, I must say. 🙂
I can’t wait to see her thrown under the repub bus, Stevens lose, Coleman lose the Wellstone seat and Saxby go wherever people who are named Saxby go when the party is over.
UK Lady: go to
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin/index.html
for Wolf Blitzer’s interview. They have it in segments along with CB’s word salad quotes.
Hey, I live in Wasilla, Never heard anybody else babble like Palin. Though I did hear a lot of folks say they voted for a convicted felon, so I’m sticking to bottled water. Go Begich!
I’m thinking with all the scandals going on in the GOP…they are really going to have to re-invent themselves to be viable in 2012…unfortunately, SP positioned herself not to be something NEW, but the OLD….she will be history by 2012
This guy has been reading my mind………. Has someone already posted this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/sarah-palin-will-never-be_b_143036.html
Ta Dragon Lady, I’m off for a look see.
If that Escada skirt don’t fit
The RNC’s gonna pay for it.
If the RNC won’t pay
Maybe it’ll be a hit on Ebay
If Ebay can’t fix it too
Daddy get you ‘nother soft interview.
From Josh Marshall, @tpmmuckraker:
“With the cable nets acting as Palin’s enablers, who will organize the intervention?”
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National Enquirer has a story on Cindy McCain’s Mystery Lover
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Omens are good. Goooooooo Begich!
Bless her heart. Has she called Hillary yet?
From sources on the inside:
Begich up by 523 as of 5PM
***Snort***
Just read this from the CNN site
With fairly high negatives and lower support among women, who should be a natural constituency for Palin, she’s not starting off from a position of strength,” Holland said. “The question is no longer whether Palin was a drag on the McCain ticket but whether her unfavorables could be a drag on a future Palin ticket.”
ugh – listening to SP interview clips on KO. “More power to you” to Senator Clinton?! WTF???
She lies so easily, it’s freaking me out! Oh, guess I have to get my pj’s on and head off to the basement. KO obviously doesn’t want to have an interview with her, he’d probably choke the living $hit out of her! Although I wish he would have an “exclusive” because of all the newscasters out there he has the best chance of making her crack.
Go Rachel! Have to send my 4th grader off to bed. He really wishes he could stay up to watch Rachel, but not on a weeknight.
Good one UK Lady.
Can you get Larry King or should we send you the link when this interview is over?
lance–maybe it was an auditory hallucination, but I think I heard SP she was going to call Hillary (today?)….oh, to be a fly on the wall (phone?) for THAT conversation! I can just HEAR Hillary telling her, “you are not RAISING the ceiling, girlfriend…go home to ALASKA…and maybe back to school.”
Sparky (16:53:32) :
I’m becoming quite a fan of Joe the Biden. I probably should have paid more attention to him sooner, but I’m way over here on the Left Coast. He’s not unflappable, like Obama, but when somebody is trying to serve him a shit sandwich, you can just see him holding himself back as he prepares to deliver a massive counterstroke — good naturedly, of course.
I could never fully master the good-natured part. I admire that.
Listening to Palin on CNN Larry King and she really believes she is all of that!!! my god people what is wrong with this woman! she dances and glosses over questions like a ballerina.
Sadly, I doubt that Hillary (from Illinois) will think to tell her “Bless your heart”.
OMG – She’s on Larry King. I can’t stand to hear her pander to families of people/children with special needs. Especially not after seeing the inconsiderate way she carries her son Trig around. She carries her son around like a sack of potatoes. I have never seen a truly maternal moment by her to any of her children, most especially not to Trig. The worst thing is that whenever I think about SP the thinking part of my brain shuts down and the word salad making factory waves around there making here the words not to be too wordy but rather they also can come together and in a far ranging way also to combine into a mess of words, there, also.
SmallSteps: and don’t forget that they progress that word salad there. Also.
UKLady: Yup! 😉
small…when one has NOTHING to say of substance, one tries to conceal that with a BARRAGE of words…unfortunately, the barrage of words SP chooses often make no sense when strung together!
@Trini (15:04:10) :
RE:Funny that she got a porn offer! After all, she was asked to run in order to be the political version of a “fluffer”. She had to excite the base!
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Too “fluffen” funny!
sorry, she is just not really smart and I never like to say that about people. but, she is really above her level of competency on the national stage…get the broom now and sweep her off. this interview is just off base and crazy!
What is talking about credence and credibility of the media and whatever she can do to help?
Is she covering her bases in case she loses all future races? Talk show?
I honestly don’t know what she thinks a governor would do about the media??
Sarah the Fluffer on her “I’m Not An Idiot” Tour.
Brilliant!
Gawd, watching Larry King, she can’t throw her hat in the ring, its all that covers up the hole in her head! This is embarassing to watch.
lol@ empish “it’s all that covers up the hold in her head”
empish (wasilla) (17:15:55) :
Gawd, watching Larry King, she can’t throw her hat in the ring, its all that covers up the hole in her head!
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Good one, empish! LOL
*hole even
Hi, mudpuppies-
All of you are a breath of fresh air in the land of the Cornhusker:)
gizmo-LOL!
Deb- I’m with you on Palinese; I taught ESL for more than a decade, and rarely did I have a student who mangled oral English as badly as she does- on purpose. My theory is she talks in sound bites, but I’m not sure if it is because (a) she learned basic English in Journalism, or (b) it camoflauges an empty brain, or (c) both.
Deb – the barrage of words was witnessed in the Wolf interview.
To be asked about the auto industry crisis and start talking about the mortgage crisis? Personal accountability?
She has faked her way through her entire life because she IS a fake.
Same with the Future of the GOP – to answer that governor’s have executive experience?
She was taught to just say anything.
new thread
New thread
Given the way she names her kids I wouldn’t be surprised if the next one is named “Fluffer.”
Dragon Lady – GGhhAAaHHhh!! just watched Wolfs interview – shoot me now!!
Actually, could you post the Larry King interview, going to bed now, spouse getting shirty iti is 2.20am here. I will watch it in the morning – then you can shoot me!! G/night.
ds55 and empish-
LOL! (bwa ha ha ha ha ha )
I think Injuneau and adn said the final vote talley might be the first week of December? Is that right?
empish – LOL – covering up the hole in her head, something KO would say.
that’s why her hair is teased.
I wonder if it’s still 3 votes?
She should call Obama out on his associations (Ayers) and oh here is what he needs to do in his administration.
No, she hasn’t been invited to the inauguration.
Teeeeeeeee Heeeeeeee Heeeeee
no mudslide, it is bigger, and new thread
strangelet (17:06:08)
He really ripped Bork a new one, and the Repubs are still pissed at him in additon for hammering Alberto Gonzales out of a place on the Supreme Court (Biden chair of Judicial Committee). Joe respects women…not scared of them. I hope that makes sense.
Every time I read or hear something about Joe Biden with the word “gaffe” in it I jump in feet first in defense. Pisses me off, everyone makes them, but with Joe it’s an easy story. Sorry, but there’s way too much that’s exceptional about Biden. Obama doesn’t make hasty or bad decisions.
His book Promises to Keep is very very impressive…the story, the individual. I recommend it, as it touches on American recent historical stuff. Sorry for going on.
@eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh,PA
That would be a BIG thank you!!!!
She doesn’t have the moose nuggets to face Olbermann
LOL, KO or Rachel…either one of them would chew her right up!
@LJR (17:19:19)
OMG LJR! Too funny! But I would hope that she wouldn’t name a kid “Fluffer” and not know what the term means. But again, there is that country of Africa….
Sparky (17:26:58),
Biden chairs Foreign Relations. Leahy is Judicial.
Both are true champions!
Gotta love the Joe!!!!!!!
nebraskanative (16:54:19) :
I can’t wait to see her thrown under the repub bus, Stevens lose, Coleman lose the Wellstone seat and Saxby go wherever people who are named Saxby go when the party is over.
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I’m with you, Nebraska native…esp. with dumping Coleman from Paul Wellstone’s seat. It’ll have to be scoured and scrubbed and disinfected big time. What a travesty it has been for someone like Norm to occupy it! Keep sending those positive vibes our way.
new post
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (16:29:54) :
I just figured out what AKM really stands for: Anti Koolaid Medication. Sure fire cure for the red koolaid.
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I’m thinking….@ss Kickin’ Mediator!!!!!!!!!!
“It’s pushing a million dollars at this point. Not sure of the exact numbers. AKM”
thanks!
A barrage of words- taught to say just anything–
Look up glossolalia (speaking in tongues) in Wikipedia.
Here is a relevant part, excerpted with my glossa in my cheek:
Linguistics of Pentecostal glossolalia:
William J. Samarin, a linguist from the University of Toronto, published a thorough assessment of Pentecostal glossolalia that became a classic work on its linguistic characteristics…
Samarin found that glossolalic speech does resemble human language in some respects. The speaker uses accent, rhythm, intonation and pauses to break up the speech into distinct units…
[Glossolalia] consists of strings of syllables, made up of sounds taken from all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly but emerging nevertheless as word-like and sentence-like units because of realistic, language-like rhythm and melody.[5]
Samarin found that the resemblance to human language was merely on the surface, and so concluded that glossolalia is “only a facade of language”.[7] He reached this conclusion because the syllable string did not form words, the stream of speech was not internally organised, and – most importantly of all – there was no systematic relationship between units of speech and concepts…
On the basis of his linguistic analysis, Samarin defined Pentecostal glossolalia as “meaningless but phonologically structured human utterance, believed by the speaker to be a real language but bearing no systematic resemblance to any natural language, living or dead”.[9]
Practitioners of glossolalia may disagree with linguistic researchers and claim that they are speaking human languages…
The Wikipedia article goes on to say glossolalia is considered a learned behavior and is not dependent on a trance state.
[and a person has to learn to let it flow without self-censoring -my comment]
SP has created big, bad, Karma for herself. Both Monegan and Wooten have been trashed and maligned by this freak. Hey, SP, my creator doesn’t like the way you do things. You got some ‘splainin’ to do, girl.
@CO Almost Native (17:20:14) :
Well, it might not be certified till then; the last votes can arrive as late as Nov. 19 and would have to be run through the machines after that. They’re SUPPOSED to certify by Nov. 25, but on the radio this morning the Div. of Elec. director said it might be as late as early Dec….
@CO Almost Native (17:20:14) :
Well, it might not be certified till then; the last votes can arrive as late as Nov. 19 and would have to be run through the machines after that. They’re SUPPOSED to certify by Nov. 25, but on the radio this morning the Div. of Elec. director said it might be as late as early Dec….
that was me, that Anonymous…