The results of the Palin poll are in. Let’s look at the Mudflatters’ powers of prognostication:
Q. Predict the Blues Puck Drop.
a) Kids present, audible booing – 941 votes = 72%
b) Kids absent, audible booing – 227 votes = 17%
c) Kids present, no audible booing – 118 votes = 9%
d) Kids absent, no audible booing – 26 votes = 2%
The actual event had a little twist. Accompanying Sarah Palin was Todd Palin and Piper. I’m going to count this as “kids present”. And although the jeering and booing were not as pronounced as they were at the Philly’s game, they definitely passed the “audible” criteria. So I’m calling this one answer A.
Pretty impressive you guys. Now if only this had been the million dollar question, and you were the audience…
Mudflats 
Me first Me First
MAYBE we can use our predictive prowess to influence the Nov 4 gig?
Top five?
She’ll get booed everywhere else also
four.
five
Funny that the goalie tripped on the carpet put down for the Palin’s..apparently he tore a groin muscle or something like that and was replace for the game.
Lost 4-0, I think.
And the SP curse continues….
I won I won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
evidently the st. louis goalie tripped on palin’s carpet when the team was introduced, and had to be pulled after giving up 2 goals in the 1st period. he strained his left hip flexor. nice going, sp. is that karma?
Not bad!!
Is this first? 🙂
First.
She did such a good job dropping the puck that the goalie left with an injury and St. Louis lost.
Blues’ Legace suffers hip injury after tripping on carpet for Palin
Associated Press
Updated: October 25, 2008, 2:39 AM ET
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Kings Shut Out Blues, 4-0ST. LOUIS — Blues goalie Manny Legace left after one period Friday night with a hip injury that occurred when he slipped on the carpet placed on the ice for Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. The Alaska governor dropped the ceremonial first puck before the Blues hosted the Los Angeles Kings. A narrow carpet walkway was placed from the gate at the Blues bench to center ice for Palin, her husband and two of her daughters.
Just before the ceremony, Legace was the first player onto the ice for St. Louis. A team official pointed to the carpet. But Legace said the official moved his own foot from the carpet just as Legace stepped down, causing the carpet to slide.
Legace fell, then gingerly made his way to the crease.
After Legace’s mishap, the official rolled up enough of the carpet so other players wouldn’t have to step on it.
Legace described the injury as a strained left hip flexor. He doesn’t believe it is serious but said it is painful. He said he won’t play Saturday when the Blues host Florida, but wasn’t sure if he’d miss any additional games.
“I felt a pull right away,” Legace said. “I was hoping it would just go away.”
But after making his first save, the injury felt worse, Legace said. He played one period, giving up two goals on 12 shots. After the intermission, the team said he suffered a “lower body” injury but did not immediately elaborate. He was replaced by Ben Bishop, making his NHL debut.
Legace is 4-2 with a 2.94 goals-against average in six games this season. He is 313-291 in his nine-year career. He was selected to the Western Conference All-Star team last season.
It was Palin’s second appearance at an NHL game this month. She also dropped the ceremonial puck at Philadelphia on Oct. 11.
Legace didn’t blame Palin for the injury.
“She’s been pretty good for our game,” Legace said. “I’m starting to like her more and more. No grudge.”
philly fans booed santa claus, i knew they would boo her even if she brought all the kids including the baby…
plus they would have tried to date the pregnant daughter
Palin “goes off the reservation”
[hasn’t carved a ‘B’ in her cheek yet, but 11 days to go!]
.http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14929_Page2.html
Some McCain aides say they had little choice with a candidate who simply wasn’t ready for the national stage, and that Palin didn’t forcefully object. Moments that Palin’s allies see as triumphs of instinct and authenticity — the Wright suggestion, her objection to the campaign’s pulling out of Michigan — they dismiss as Palin’s “slips and miscommunications,” that is, her own incompetence and evidence of the need for tight scripting.
But Palin partisans say she chafed at the handling.
“The campaign as a whole bought completely into what the Washington media said — that she’s completely inexperienced,” said a close Palin ally outside the campaign who speaks regularly to the candidate.
“Her strategy was to be trustworthy and a team player during the convention and thereafter, but she felt completely mismanaged and mishandled and ill advised,” the person said. “Recently, she’s gone from relying on McCain advisers who were assigned to her to relying on her own instincts.”
Palin’s loyalists say she’s grown particularly disenchanted with the veterans of the Bush reelection campaign, including Schmidt and Wallace, and that despite her anti-intellectual rhetoric, her closest ally among her new traveling aides is a policy adviser, former National Security Council official Steve Biegun. She’s also said to be close with McCain’s chief foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, who prepared her for the Oct. 2 vice presidential debate.
When a McCain aide, speaking anonymously Friday to The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder, suggested that Palin’s charge that Obama was “palling around with terrorists” had “escaped HQ’s vetting,” it was Scheunemann who fired off an angry response that the speech was “fully vetted” and that to attack Palin for it was “bullshit.”
Palin’s “instincts,” on display in recent days, have had her opening up to the media, including a round of interviews on talk radio, cable and broadcast outlets, as well as chats with her traveling press and local reporters.
Reporters really began to notice the change last Sunday, when Palin strolled over to a local television crew in Colorado Springs.
“Get Tracey,” a staffer called out, according to The New York Times, summoning spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt, who reportedly “tried several times to cut it off with a terse ‘Thank you!’ in between questions, to no avail.” The moment may have caused ulcers in some precincts of the McCain campaign, but it was an account Palin’s admirers in Washington cheered.
Palin had also sought to give meatier policy speeches, in particular on energy policy and on policy for children with disabilities; she finally gave the latter speech Friday, but had wanted to deliver it much earlier.
She’s also begun to make her own ad hoc calls about the campaign’s direction and the ticket’s policy. McCain, for instance, has remained silent on Democrats’ calls for a stimulus package of new spending, a move many conservatives oppose but that could be broadly popular. But in an interview with the conservative radio host Glenn Beck earlier this week, Palin went “off the reservation” to make the campaign policy, one aide said.
“I say, you know, when is enough enough of taxpayer dollars being thrown into this bill out there?” she asked. “This next one of the Democrats being proposed should be very, very concerning to all Americans because to me it sends a message that $700 billion bailout, maybe that was just the tip of the iceberg. No, you know, we were told when we’ve got to be believing if we have enough elected officials who are going to be standing strong on fiscal conservative principles and free enterprise and we have to believe that there are enough of those elected officials to say, ‘No, OK, that’s enough.'”
(A McCain spokeswoman said Palin’s statement was “a good sentiment.”)
But few imagine that Palin will be able to repair her image — and bad poll numbers — in the eleven days before the campaign ends. And the final straw for Palin and her allies was the news that the campaign had reported spending $150,000 on her clothes, turning her, again, into the butt of late-night humor.
“She never even set foot in these stores,” the senior Republican said, noting Palin hadn’t realized the cost when the clothes were brought to her in her Minnesota hotel room.
“It’s completely out-of-control operatives,” said the close ally outside the campaign. “She has no responsibility for that. It’s incredibly frustrating for us and for her.”
Between Palin’s internal detractors and her allies, there’s a middle ground: Some aides say that she’s a flawed candidate whose handling exaggerated her weak spots.
“She was completely mishandled in the beginning. No one took the time to look at what her personal strengths and weaknesses are and developed a plan that made sense based on who she is as a candidate,” the aide said. “Any concerns she or those close to her have about that are totally valid.”
But the aide said that Palin’s inexperience led her to her own mistakes:
“How she was handled allowed her weaknesses to hang out in full display.”
If McCain loses, Palin’s allies say that the national Republican Party hasn’t seen the last of her. Politicians are sometimes formed by a signal defeat — as Bill Clinton was when he was tossed out of the Arkansas governor’s mansion after his first term — and Palin would return to a state that had made her America’s most popular governor and where her image as a reformer who swept aside her own party’s insiders rings true, if not in the cartoon version the McCain campaign presented.
“There are people in this campaign who feel a real sense of loyalty to her and are really pleased with her performance and think she did a great job,” said the McCain insider. “She has a real future in this party.”
not exactly on topic but this is good reading or if youwant a short video version that is available too.
http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/player23356460
The Five Myths about John McCain
Thanks to you, AKM, we know ‘our’ Sarah!
Interesting little story on Ben Smith’s blog.
McCain camp hits back at ‘diva’ Palin
Responding to the grumblings from Palin’s camp in my story this morning, McCain’s camp hits back in conversations with CNN:
McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls — recorded messages often used to attack a candidate’s opponent — “irritating” even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign’s decision to pull out of Michigan.
A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.
“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser. “She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.
@Blue Idaho
I am still chuckling away to myself about your post yesterday regarding your husband and the polls.
Wait a minute, I just looked at the electoral map – they’re calling Florida barely Democratic? Where have I been?! Damn, that’s good news!
PipelineGate is getting MSM attention in the lower 48 on Yahoo and HuffPo, proably all the otheres too….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/palins-pipeline-deal-flaw_n_137825.html
Even an idiotic second-hand news agency like Yahoo can smeel the blood on this one.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline
All Hail Sarah Palin, Queen of Sweetheart Deals and Pork Barrel Politics!!!!!
“She was completely mishandled in the beginning. No one took the time to look at what her personal strengths and weaknesses are and developed a plan that made sense based on who she is as a candidate,” the aide said.
UH, WHAT strengths? Really, I am trying so hard to think of some, any, ONE!
I just got back from voting! For Obama! Gosh it feels good. I went with few Obama supporters and we carpooled down to Norwalk where we waited in line for about 20 minutes before going inside to get our ballots. Everyone was very polite and there were many helpful poll workers on hand to assist.
You are not allowed to wear Obama pins, buttons or t-shirts close to the registrars office, but there was this one elderly man walking around looking rather lost with a very red hat on with “R” on each side of it. No it wasn’t McCain but I do think JM feels a little lost right now.
The Dems were out in force and were phone banking on the lawn all around the building, enlisting people to help after they had voted. Lots of kids playing with each other, people on blankets, or beach towels everywhere talking into their cell phones.
I keep making the affirmation: President Obama, President Obama, President Obama. 10 more days folks!
@Lori
Agreed. There are no strengths there.
Lori W. (13:06:30) :
“She was completely mishandled in the beginning. No one took the time to look at what her personal strengths and weaknesses are and developed a plan that made sense based on who she is as a candidate,” the aide said.
UH, WHAT strengths? Really, I am trying so hard to think of some, any, ONE!
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She’s a strong liar, a strong dissembler, she suffers from a strong memory loss, she’s a strong fundamentalist…..
Irishgirl I worked at a Irish restaurant The Irish have a great sense of humor.
I love it. A bunch of guys wearing hard hats at an Obama rally.
I don’t for a minute believe that someone “shopped” for her. Moose Poo. I never buy a thing without first trying it on to see if it fits. Tell me that some one bought that jacket for her that fits so perfectly.
I just saw the union construction group at Obama rally too. They said they got a round of applause when they walked in together.
@braveny
I agree. No way she missed out on the shopping spree. This is the same that went miles to met Ivana.
I agree about our prediction prowess…. I think we know who’s going to win this election!
Now, in Palinese: I think I would agree about our very own prediction prowessness, also. And I also want to say, I think we have a knowingness about that which is….who’s gonna win the fight for the, in my book, election of the presidentness. Also.
I seriously doubt that an aide picked out that red leather Michael Jackson “Thriller” jacket for Sarah to wear.
Love the Palinese! Scary…It’s starting to make sense when you hear it!
I think one of her “strengths” is being able to place a curse on the home team by dropping a puck! Did she learn that from Muthee?
Well ya kno’ it’s all in the ‘laying of hands’ on the puck.
@JAK: and the speaking in tongues. I don’t know what language she thinks she’s speaking, but it doesn’t appear to be English!
It’s Palin speak…as in ‘W’ speak.
Palin Diva problem is not Yahoo’s top story! Ha!
Sorry I ment now it’s the top story.
@ Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (13:18:52) :
Here’s my version:
I think I would agree about our very own prediction prowessness, also. And I also want to say, I think we have a knowingness about that which is….who’s gonna win the fight for the, in my book, election of the presidentness. Also. Fersure.
LOL!
She adds “-ness” to words that should never be made into that part of speech… ie: “ill-conceivedness” with regard to meeting those dangerous dictators without preconditions (even though she has no idea what a precondition is) Come ON!!!
The Philadelphia Flyers finally won their first game of the season, the St. Louis Blues lost Manny Legace to a hip injury from slipping on the stupid carpet … Stay away from hockey teams, you bad-luck trollop!
Although it would be funny if she went on some kind of international trip to Sweden. In one of the games there, when a former player was returning as a player on the visiting team, they greeted him with raunchy signs, an inflatable penis, and a shower of sex toys on the ice. (A sex video had made its way to the internet, as they inevitably do.) Imagine her getting konked in the back of the head with such an object! Hilarity for all. 😀
WV Democrat (13:30:08) : You betcha! 😉
Ripley,
Great job on the Palinese!! Sarah does have an amazing ability to turn nouns into verbs and adjectives. Almost every time I hear her speak, I end up thinking, “Wait – is that actually a word??” She had several new words in her interview with Brian Williams – if I could stand to watch it again, I might keep track of them, donchaknow there. Also.
the idea that palin didnt shop for herself is absurd
women always shop for themselves
its men who dont care….and would prefer not to have to go into a storee
btw, if she didnt shop for herself, then the monicker of caribou barbie fits even more
she is a dressup doll
Just read the article in Anchorage News——7 mountains stratagy?? OMG!!!
Would we then be a POLICE STATE????? Maybe she could get a job with the KGB!
People that go around with religion on their sleeve, turn me Off!!!! I believe people should live a life that shows they are Christian. NO need to advertise.
Palin wants to be the Everywoman Diva. The Queen of Just Like You. the Princess of Rising Above Your Roots.
Well, here’s the roots Michelle Obama grew up from. It’s the slave quarters her great-grandmother was born in.
http://www.motleymoose.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=520
Don’t know if you ever saw this blog, but it helped me after the 2004 let down
http://www.dubyaspeak.com/
Surely, there will be a Palin speak site soon…
Here’s the new McCain Theme Song:
Four wheels on my wagon, and I’m still rolling along,
Dems on donkeys, they’re after me
Barack’s appeal, it burns my wheels
But I’m singing a Happyyyyyy Sooonnngggggg
And I’m movin’ on strong
Rap it together now!
oops, there’s a crises ahead, we’re dropping like lead, a scary Economy has jumped out from the Bushes, and we can’t be saved by no pill-poppin Rushes, that damn dry-drunk W came out and coughed, and knocked one of my wheels off!!
Oh, Hell! Oh, well…..
Three wheels on my wagon, and I’m still rolling along,
Dems on Donkeys, they’re after me,
Barack’s appeal, it burns my wheels,
But I’m singing a Happyyyyyy Sooonnngggggg
And I’m movin’ on strong
Rap it together now
Oh, hi pretty lady, you at the height of Alaskan pop-you-larity, gonna hijack the support of broken Hillarity, jump on board and ride to Washington with me?
Oh baby, we moving and groovin now, we gonna rule the Nation, a McPalinistic sensation!
Hey, uh, wait a minute, girl, don’t grab them reins, baby, I’m steering this wagon, HEY I SAID DON’T TOUCH THE REINS, LADY! WTF ARE YOU DOING!!??!! WE GONNA CRASH YOU STUPID BITCH!!!!! YOU’RE BATSHIT CRAZY!!!!
(sounds of a tremdenous crash)
Oh, Hell! Oh Well!
No wheels on my wagon, and I’m still rolling along,
Dems on Donkeys….
Ah, what the hell, I’m not fooling anybody this race is lost…
Cindy, get me a plane ticket back to Arizona and make sure that crazy bitch has to pay for all the clothes she ruined!
Thanks for the heads-up Megacephalus.
I am going to need a translator to understand SP, I had to read and re-read her answers. I think she keeps trying to change things and keeps overstating the VPs job because she believes she can. She knows that Repugs hate JM and if she gets lucky enough to be VP she has to tow the line for the right. So I think she keeps making these statements for continual support from those people who think that the Dick Cheeney way of doing things is right and can be escalated.
She’s just being a maverick!
McCain camp has created a monster.
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (13:18:52) :Now, in Palinese: I think I would agree about our very own prediction prowessness, also. And I also want to say, I think we have a knowingness about that which is….who’s gonna win the fight for the, in my book, election of the presidentness. Also.
<_<___<___<___<<_____<_____<_<____<____That’s sum funny stuff right there I don’t care who ya r.
@Lacy Lady (13:34:54) :
‘Seven Mountains Strategy,’ what is the link?
SP could have went on line and picked out everything she wanted. Who are these people trying to fool? That excuse about her having nothing to do with the shopping won’t fly. Just like she claims such a moral high ground about all the excess she cut in Alaska, she could have inquired and refused the items and services. Give ma a break.
Here, Lacy Lady
http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567096.html
Local voices for Obama:
This is a nice compilation of folks of all ages and places talking about their support for Obama. Kind of like us, except on video.
For now we’re pretty charged up against Sarah, but should anyone start to flag in the next week, this link is another site that acts as a pick-me-up—to go with the wine and chcocolate, of course.
http://blog.localvoicesforobama.com/
Sorry, White Agate, that link’s for you!
I’ve been tryin’ to think of somethin’ funny to post, but y’all are too elitistly hilarious for me. I got nothin’.
You get the Diva back in about two weeks.
What y’all do with her — that’s on you.
Miemaw from Texas (13:48:54) :
You get the Diva back in about two weeks.
What y’all do with her — that’s on you.
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I’ll still be a mudpuppy. Sarah is like a bad soap opera, but I’m going to have to keep watching!
any sports fan worth their salt will tell ya that any time – in ANY SPORT – there’s a losing streak associated with an opening ceremony – aka a puck drop, a first pitch – there’s to be an all out protest when it looks like the same person is about to step foot on your home turf. i mean, most fans are right up there in anxiety and rituals as some ball players, hockey players – they don’t shower, they wear the same underwear from the last win (don’t even wash it in between games)…same stanky shower shoes…I mean, you don’t have to be a Bull Durham fan to get it. if she goes for three, it’s a sign of the end times…and we’re movin’ to Alaska!
The woman is a dolt and just doesn’t understand plain old English. But on the other hand, I also have been blessed to hear so many new words for Helping republicans and beginning to understand the planks and platforms and shoes and things that help build that bridge to nowhere.
Obama in LV on MSNBC
Sorry…CNN. Can’t keep track of what channel I’m watchin’
Sumpin weird going on on MSNBC–people criticizing obama/biden…has there been a fox coup d’etat?
This NYTimes story about SP and her church is going to give license to the McCain ticket to bring up Rev. Wright. This is going to be one nasty week of politics.
Hey Lock Pepper – is that your Palin name? Cause it’s my Palin name too.
Hey, Deep Blue-
Yes–I think they are being earth friendly by recycling some of those names, LOL. But if you go and type in your same name you get a different Palin name each time.
What fun!
Not only has AK Muckraker developed remarkable community of commenters in a few months, the commenters here have become very good at predicting the future.
I think Sarah has fallen in love with Joe the plumber.
Lock Pepper – I always get the same name. Hmmm. Maybe there’s more than one version of the name generator by now.
SP does love the working guy. Joe the plumber, Joe Six-pack, Joe pro-America. It’s ok, Todd knows he’s the one she comes home to each night.
will someone please read this and tell me what the hell she’s saying?
“I say, you know, when is enough enough of taxpayer dollars being thrown into this bill out there?” she asked. “This next one of the Democrats being proposed should be very, very concerning to all Americans because to me it sends a message that $700 billion bailout, maybe that was just the tip of the iceberg. No, you know, we were told when we’ve got to be believing if we have enough elected officials who are going to be standing strong on fiscal conservative principles and free enterprise and we have to believe that there are enough of those elected officials to say, ‘No, OK, that’s enough.’”
“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser. “She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.
Here’s the validation of all our concerns about pimping her kids….
Lock Pepper – I just tested it again, and sure enough, my name comes up as Lock Pepper Palin! Are your initials ML by any chance?
@Crust Scramble – SouthGA (13:45:13) :
No worries, got it. Boy, I am just so unaware of this stuff. It’s like the Inquisition bubbling up around you. If I had lived in colonial times, it’s interesting to know I might have been burned at the stake as a witch for being a ‘progressive thinker.’
Hello to all in South GA, turn it blue! I used to live in Atlanta, and I saw there was a ‘Pirate Parade’ on Tybee Island this week. Savannah never loses a chance to have a good time, nor Tybee.
Making calls and got into it with a woman who won’t vote for Obama because of ‘ACORN, terrorists, and the fact that Obama is shifty, too cool, and untrustworthy.’ She agrees the middle class has been screwed but thinks McCain is the answer. Sheesh.
Yea, um, could someone translate pliss?
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palin-tied-to-firm-in-flawed-pipeline/225596?icid=200100397x1212161983x1200761431
Damn, if she gets to be President are we going to need an official interpreter?
Seven Mountain Strategy?!?!?! NOW who’s the terrorist?!?!?
Glad to see the in-fighting among the McCain people. Nothing like a little back-stabbing (which the Republicans are very good at) among your own !
AKM, are you going to maybe have an electoral vote prediction contest ?
I’ll start and guess:
Obama – 381 McCain – 157
I find it shocking that Palin would even have Presidential aspirations. Doesn’t she realize that all those skeletons will get waaaay more than a cursory glance if she runs for the big office?
White Agate (14:15:20) :
Isn’t it scary? Interesting to me though, is that it is beginning to be reported by Huffpo
and the NYT. MSM won’t be able to ignore it for too much longer. I have hope that this could be frightening to some of those ‘less than fanatical’ Christians out there.
Aaargh! Yeah, I’d love to have been there.
And BobG, let me know if anybody can interpret that paragraph!
@Regi (14:17:08) :
Yea, um, could someone translate pliss?
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palin-tied-to-firm-in-flawed-pipeline/225596?icid=200100397x1212161983x1200761431
— Under a different set of rules four years earlier, TransCanada had offered to build the pipeline without a state subsidy; under Palin, the company could receive a maximum $500 million.
Fiscal responsibility?
SP definitely did not do the shopping for herself. Has anyone noticed the difference in style in her pictures from Alaska before and her new VP candidate wardrobe? She wasn’t even aware that her new style of clothing ( and pattern and color combination) even existed before.
@Bobg
I am so blessed to nominate you as official translator, should the unthinkable happen. Also!
LOL! I just tried the Palin Baby Name Generator for the first time….and my Palin baby name is:
Moose Roadster Palin
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_PIPELINE?SITE=VOICESD&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Now Pipelinegate? When does it end? Does this woman have one ethical bone in her body?
WV Dem –
Moose Roadster Palin – that is awesome!
@ Bobg
Yes, the world is going to need new interpreters, cos all the professional ones will quit if they have to get her nonsense into something meaningful in a foreign language… let alone finding someone who can translate it into English…
WV Dem –
Moose Roadster Palin – that is awesome!
A bunch of us traded the Pain surname for Hussein after the fuss over Obama’s middle name. How’s Moose Roadster Hussein sound to you?
freudian slip? Pain = Palin!!
Watch this very cute clip of a Venetian gondolier singing the praises of Obama:
Enjoy!
I have a question – I have heard several Repug’s incl *ucker Bounds and McCain say in reference to the amount of campaign monies raised by Our Man that he lied about taking ?public monies rather than raising his own campaign funds…or something like that, can any one explain what they are talikg about. I know they are merely jealous but I know nothing about this.
Palin with Brian Williams…..”If everything that I’ve heard about myself were true, I wouldn’t like myself either.”…….so apart from every thing we’ve heard, we ALSO don’t like her because she’s a pathological liar?
Palin has no future in politics. In fact, neither does McCain. After they lose the election, the Republican Party will shun McCain – they never had much use for him anyway, and Palin doesn’t have the requisite skill to continue upward.
Palin does, however, have a future as a host on the Christian Broadcasting Network during the 12:00 a.m. time slot.
@ Bobg
Reading what Palin says is even more confusing than just listening.
Scotsgirl (14:35:57) :
the bbc on the funds question
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7463813.stm
Another little piece from the BBC with a fun picture:
[http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/10/love_and_untogetherness.html]
I know this isn’t on topic….but, thought you might like to check out this link called “The 11 Dumbest Things Sarah Palin Has Said So Far” http://johnmccain.newsladder.net/submissions/comments/gUymqzTP/5
Are y’all still going to the palinaspresident site. Some new funny additions.
I tried the name generator and it came up with Chap Poach… but I too will leave the last name off!
It is unfortunate that the parents are such dodo heads that they insist on bringing the child with them when they know people are going to boo.
Either that or they are clueless as to how much people are well beyond just beginning to dislike them.
Someone really ought to file a complaint with social services because it’s borderline abuse to stick a child into the type of atmosphere.
Forty Watt Hussein (13:43:38) :
Local voices for Obama:
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Thank you so much for that link. The individuals in the videos
are very inspiring.
Here is a teaser about an upcoming(I hope) expose on SP.
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
Here is something about an upcoming (I hope) expose on SP
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
Hi Scotsgirl (14:35:57)
In 2007, Obama said he would forego private funding in the general election campaign and instead participate in the presidential public financing system, if both major candidates agreed.
Obama opted out, in part because he said his campaign had created a parallel public financing system whereby the American people, by getting on the Internet and donating, were deciding if they want to support a campaign.
Another Scotsgirl from Dunfermline
This is SO SWEET!!
Carol (14:22:52) :
“SP definitely did not do the shopping for herself… She wasn’t even aware that her new style of clothing ( and pattern and color combination) even existed before.”
Carol are you saying that someone who idolizes Ivana Trump as an icon of high culture could possibly be unsophisticated?
Forty Watt Hussein – hi! Are you still in Dumfermline – I am now in Houston, Tx
Don’t you love the diversity on this fab site.
I knew if I asked someone, or should I say, someONES would help me out with the right answer!
So JMcC could have then said okay we’ll do the same as Mr Obama then?
Scotsgirl (14:35:57) :
Obama’s position as he stated it was:
“”In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election,” he wrote. “My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election… If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.””
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/06/19/the-problem-with-obama-s-public-financing-acrobatics.aspx
The problem is that the Republicans have wanted to restrict the candidates to public financing but still allow outside “527” groups like the swift boat group to give unlimited money. So as usual it is a self serving distortion in the True Bush Chenney tradition.
Missouri is the show me state.
The local hockey team is the St. Louis blues.
Today, Todd and Sarah showed them
that one November 4, Missouri will be blue.
@ bPoint (14:56:37) :
Here is something about an upcoming (I hope) expose on SP
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
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Out of curiousity.. is this the AP story on the pipeline???? or yet again something else????
And the puck stops here…
AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline;_ylt=AiUUrVz_wbTz_Fb54WUvuYAb.3QA
Came home and saw that in Top Stories on Yahoo news page.
I think that I’ve finally figured out Palin’s verbiage. If you thoroughly confuse people then no one can accuse you of anything because they won’t know what to confuse you of. Damn, she’s got me doing it.
@BigSlick: Backatcha ! (to the tune of Bye Bye Blackbird….)
Pack up all our cares and woes, no more John and no more “Joes”
BYEEEE BYEEEE SARAH !
You’ve made Repug History … don’tcha know ? cant’cha see ?
BYEEE BYEEEE SARAH !
No more need to try and understaaaand you,
No more Tucker Bounds (even he can’t staaaaand you !)
Todd will make your bed tonight, get thee home, out of sight …
SARAAAAAAAHHHHHHH BYEEEE BYEEEEE !!
;>
And THIS is very cool
Good music and collage of Obama pics!
Commando, thanks for that link.. I need a sweet teary-eyed moment. Bless them both, they are beautiful.
Scotsgirl,
What O essentially said was I can’t compete with the $ available to McCain through the
RNC, so I will raise my own. And damn, if he didn’t. This is a very sore spot with McCain and the Repugs. They’ve repeatedly said he lied about taking public funds. He left his options open and after doing the research decided he didn’t want to be tied into public funds. For those of us O supporters, this has been a VERY good thing.
Scotsgirl (15:04:09) :
Forty Watt Hussein – hi! Are you still in Dumfermline – I am now in Houston, Tx
I’m in PA now but lived in Dallas for 15 years.
Got my pack of lies from the NRA in the mail today in Alaska. Here’s a good way to respond. Post on bulletin boards in your community. Write letters. Put in paid ads.
Obama on Hunting and Fishing
“As President, I will protect the right to bear arms, increase access
to places to hunt and fish, take on polluters and clean up our
streams and lakes, and protect our nation’s important wildlife
habitat and wetlands. I will enhance programs that encourage young
people to hunt and fish and respect and protect the outdoors. Our
nation’s sportsmen have made sure that this and future generations
can enjoy our natural resources and wildlife. As President, I will
stand with them and ensure that America’s hunting and fishing
heritage endures.”
@Bobg
It has been suggested that some people, not understanding a word Palin is saying, are quite impressed with her ‘smartedness’……the people at her rallies, perhaps?
To AKM: This is off subject but since you were able to get the poopin moose I thought I’d try
Back a long time ago (1954-55) I lived in North Pole. That was when the houses were about a half mile apart. During the winter I listened to the radio as my only connection to the world (no car). There was a program, “From Out of the North” that I’d tune in. I’d like to get a recording of some of those broadcasts if they were ever gathered. Anyone know if it’s out there???
@Commando
I agree! the Love shows through
@NoCalGal (15:04:44) :
Here is something about an upcoming (I hope) expose on SP
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
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Out of curiousity.. is this the AP story on the pipeline???? or yet again something else????
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I think it is something else…because it mentions the P. family
You can (and I did) report smear literature received in the mail to the same link as reporting smears for robo calls. See Action Alerts in the forum.
Smear E-mails should be forwarded exactly as received to watchdog@barackobama.com
Much as I hate to leave , I’ll no i will feel more blessed also, regarding fannie and george, if i go to be now. Bobg for VP!!
http://www.newsweek.com/id/165656
(from Newsweek) Palin’s (non) allegiance to McCain is all over the news today
The Palin Problem
If McCain loses, the GOP will have a head vs. heart decision to make about the party’s veep pick
BigPete (15:13:41)
“are quite impressed with her ’smartedness’”
Boy that smarts!
From the Daily Kos 10/22/08
“The problem with Sarah Palin is that she makes my head hurt, and my Bullshit Detector goes all fritzy on me because frankly, there’s too damn many words attached to too damn little meaning. Scotty had words with meaning, and often if you looked beyond the obvious meaning, you could learn the truth. Same with Girl Scotty (Dana Perino) as well. Tony Snow’s words had meaning, but their meaning was the opposite of the truth.
Sarah Palin’s words have no meaning whatsoever much of the time. But we took her through a spin of the old Bullshit Detector anyway, and here is the result…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/22/172337/89/687/639024
Scott Palin
I can’t get the 11 dumbest things to open – can you copy & paste them?
OT but I thought cute: I received a thank you from Alaskan’s for Begich recently, and then found a follow-up email asking if I (and I’m sure others) could spare a little more. What is fun is that they listed amounts and what a specific donation would help buy for Mr. Begich’s campaign. One item was “handwarmers” I believe for his campaign workers who are involved in outside stuff (knocking on doors, stationed outside with materials for voters, etc.)
I gladly contributed for handwarmers because it almost made me cry…what a wonderful way to fund-raise for a candidate. To specify ways in which we could help. I would like to think that this type of neat fundraising is representative of the candidate, Mr. Begich.
My hands are quite warm in California, I hope my small donation does the same for the falanges belonging to Alaskans for Begich. 🙂 I’m verklempt.
As to Fruitflygate (oh, I Iaughed until I cried when I saw it called that on here), didn’t SWNNB get earmarks to study the mating habits of crabs?? I sure would have loved to hear that on Maddow. Hubby and I are early voting tomorrow with our 18-year-old daughter; my 8-year-old wishes she could vote for Obama too! Funnest family outing ever 🙂 Anyone know a website for pumpkin carving stencils of Obama?
It was said that Spiro Agnew could cram more big words into fewer small ideas than anyone on record. Sarah has him beat because she’s able to cram even more words into zero ideas. Of course her words are proportionally smaller, probably because Reader’s Digest “improve your word power” is no longer readily available.
I keep wondering, is she on drugs? She’s like a gnat on words. Here, there and nowhere. Does she have one cohesive thought in a 24 hour period?
@ eajphd
Does it sometimes feel as if we are taking PALINESE as a second language?
EARLY VOTED TODAY! Everything was orderly and completed in an hour.
I’m un-adopting myself from the Palin Klan and will here forth be known as my former regular self:)
My staunch Rep co-worker says he’s not even bothering to vote because Obama has it in the bag. I wish he could view it a little more positively than that but hey some people will ALWAYS be members of The Glass is Half Empty Club.
As for SP I’m sure there will be future television opportunities – she’d be perfect as a televangelist…they do take kindly to fallen angels! Now that she’s had a taste of the rich life I’m sure it will be hard to go back to shopping at JC Penny & Wal-Mart.
Maybe she’ll donate her wardrobe to that little shop she likes to visit and re-buy the stuff dirt(y) cheap. Gotta love a Maverick…NOT!
I got a sample of a new magazine in the mail today. It was addressed to me and included a clear plaster wrapper and introductory letter. The letter states:
Dear Friend,
We just had to get his new issue of Garden & Gun into your hands because we believe you’re exactly the kind of person this magazine was created for…
The magazine says its the soul of the new south and has several interesting sounding articles including one written by Jimmy Buffett. Topics ranged from how to make a perfect Bloody Mary to an article about the Southerners who fled to Brazil after the Civil War.
I had quite the laugh at the name though. Something Sarah Palin would take a subscription to in a heartbeat just on the name alone, fersure. Also.
http://www.gardenandgun.com for those who would like to take a peek.
Most people have a stream of consciousness governed by their Ego functions. SP appears to have a stream of unconsciousness- she’s governor with no internal governance.
@ Kim in Florida (15:27:57) :
You said: “As to Fruitflygate (oh, I Iaughed until I cried when I saw it called that on here), didn’t SWNNB get earmarks to study the mating habits of crabs?? I sure would have loved to hear that on Maddow.”
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Then you’ll like this one.
Warning: Do not click if you take offense easily.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a20347d8f3
BigPete (15:31:52) :
yep, you betcha
“didn’t SWNNB get earmarks to study the mating habits of crabs?”
She thought it was lice – always looking out for the kids’ health and well-being while they practice abstinence.
BTW she thinks if they practice enough they may actually achieve it, otherwise they get married and everything is ok.
megacephalus (12:56:48) :
Palin “goes off the reservation”
[hasn’t carved a ‘B’ in her cheek yet, but 11 days to go!]
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au contraire, me amiga… but she does. On her butt cheeks.
I am thinking that I might have a decent job awaiting me as a Palinese translator. Of course, it won’t be with the White House… but perhaps she’ll stay here in the lower 48. I bet she could come up with some money, “somewhere”.
I will try this one again, I don’t see it posted yet. The AP Pipeline story,
AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline;_ylt=AiUUrVz_wbTz_Fb54WUvuYAb.3QA
Sorry for the long link, don’t know how to hide those.
I found it in Yahoo’s Top Stories.
OH GROSS!
My husband has Inside Edition on and they are playing up the Palin kids – how cute it is that Piper was carrying her mom’s Louis Vuitton bag. The whole thing was disgusting to listen to . . .
New numbers from Arizona via DailyKos, woo hoo!
AZ-Pres: Hold on to your hats!
Myers Research (D) & Grove Insight (D). 10/23-24. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)
Likely voters
McCain (R) 44
Obama (D) 40
Early voters (34% of the sample)
McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47
The sample was 40 percent Republican, 33 Democratic, and 26 percent independent. ASU has its own survey coming Monday, and they’ve hinted at similar results. Makes me proud to be an Arizonan!
Hey All!
Off Topic,
I wrote to the LA Times reporter that did the article posted here Thursday (I think) about SWWNBN and all the cronies she appointed when elected governor, etc. I mentioned that he must be reading Mudflats, and if not he should … here is his reply:
“Thanks for your comments. Just recently learned of Mudflats, which is fascinating.
Sincerely,
Charles Piller, Los Angeles Times”
You go AKM and Muddies! Keep it up we are being heard!
eajphd Molten Contra Palin (15:28:18) :
It was said that Spiro Agnew could cram more big words into fewer small ideas than anyone on record. Sarah has him beat because she’s able to cram even more words into zero ideas. Of course her words are proportionally smaller, probably because Reader’s Digest “improve your word power” is no longer readily available.
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Maybe so, but do you think her thonged butt cheeks will fill a jail cell as well as Spiro’s once did?
Commando Coalfire Palin (15:44:16) :
The Vuitton bag is a counterfeit, just like Sarah. Goggle it, you’ll get over 7,000 hits
Carry over from two threads ago, since everyone had left by the time I got there…
@Deep Blue in VA (05:31:45) :
Come on over to the Episcopal Church. There are lots of “rejects” from the RC Church over here (including spouse and me), and we love and welcome everyone! Or, we’ll all just go and join Puck Mule Church and be happy together…
@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (06:51:48) :
Well, I am an Alaskan and have eaten moose steaks, so I’m here to tell you that it is delicious and very lean (so you have to be careful not to overcook it) and much healthier for you than farm-raised meat. I haven’t had much, as there are few moose in SE AK and hunt permits are by lottery, but a friend from Fairbanks gave me some once. It was divine.
@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (08:50:26) :
We just MUST have the music of the blessed disciple Bob Dylan also, too! And I’ll bring dark chocolate, homemade liqueurs, and pies. May I be Sista Pie (since there already seems to be a Sista Crust)?
Thanks WV Democrat! The hilarity of it all is what keeps me sane. BTW, I plugged Mudflats twice today while wearing my Obama button; check-out lady at Walmart had me write it down for her and I threw in wassillaprojectdotcom(laptop acting up tonight) as a bonus.
Ok mudpuppies — here’s a task for you. I’ve seen a few videos now that clearly show the love between Obama and his family. Is there any such thing for McCain? Or even Palin? Spontaneous moments, historical moments, cherished moments… anything anywhere?
Example of Alaska Earmarks:
_Alaska Fisheries Marketing Board. From its federal funds, the board gave Alaska Airlines a $500,000 grant. It was used, in part, to paint a Boeing 737 to look like a Chinook Salmon to promote the state’s seafood.
_The Alyeska Roundhouse received $450,000. The building is at the Alyeska ski resort in Girdwood, where Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens has his home.
_Money for six “Alternative Salmon Products.” The University of Alaska received several of these earmarks, which included $450,000 for development of baby food containing salmon in 2006.
_Alaska Christian College received $435,000 in 2005. The school had several dozen students at the time.
_The National Archives and Records Administration received at least $2.25 million toward the purchase of an empty lot in Anchorage from two former Stevens business partners. The purchase cost was $3.5 million, allowing the former Stevens partners to more than double their investment.
_The Alaska Botanical Garden received $300,000 over three years for expansion and renovation.
_SpringBoard, an organization that helps Alaska businesses meet the needs of the Department of Defense, received $14 million the past two years.
_$250,000 was appropriated to plan for the Alaska Statehood celebration, set for 2009.
_$1 million in 2005 went for mobile computers for police cars in Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,700.
Kim in Florida (15:27:57) :
Pumpkin Obama stencils…
http://yeswecarve.com/category/stencils/
Have fun!
Coalfire – the more the various shows carrying programming directed towards Palin’s expensive duds, the more voters will realize that she is not just like them… heck, she’s not even really a hockey mom. Many of the ones around here think she makes them look stupid. Now it appears she’s making them look like profligate spendthrifts.
eajphd Molten Contra Palin
Figures that a phony like Palin would have a knock off purse . . .
Ooh ooh I want to be Sista Bust!
Tired Mom (VA) (15:47:12)
Right on, Tired!
@msbeader
I found a few sites you may want to look at.
http://www.donmccunelibrary.com/scrapbk/11exnw12.htm
(click on the Out of the North picture for a few seconds of sound)
http://airchex.tripod.com/index.html
go to his list of airchecks
Arghh! Salmon baby food? Can you say Mercury poisoning?
sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy (15:48:08) :
What an ugly image – Spiro in a thong.
Attention all Chicagoland area Mudpuppies – we are plannng a Mudstock Meet-up on Sunday, November 2, 11:30 AM, at ‘The Bean’ (Cloudgate sculpture) in Millennium Park. I have posted a new thread on the Mudflats Forum under Events and Meets. You can respond there, or to Shikago, who shared his email last night. Can’t wait to see how many greater-Chicagoland Mudpuppies there are!
Co-horts/co-planners: Carol (Chicago,IL) and Shikago!
_$1 million in 2005 went for mobile computers for police cars in Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,700.
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holy crap… how many police cars they got in Wasilla????
Goodnite from Ireland. Also awaiting more blessed news in the morning.
I was BOOING – all the way from OHIO – and OUR votes better count!!! (I’ve voted and it wasn’t for HER!!)
IMO, the “Palin goes rogue” story is a plant. Anyone close to her is looking at 6 figure advances for their tell-all. And said tell-all’s will have a very, very brief shelf life. So the bigger the implosion the better. I think some one(s) is/are trying to goad her into a spectacular tantrum to spice up their book deal.
I think Gov. Palin must be aware that all around her are scribbling notes to themselves. Son, Trig, is probably her only safe companion. Lonely lady!
Politicians are sometimes formed by a signal defeat — as Bill Clinton was when he was tossed out of the Arkansas governor’s mansion after his first term — and Palin would return to a state that had made her America’s most popular governor and where her image as a reformer who swept aside her own party’s insiders rings true, if not in the cartoon version the McCain campaign presented.
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Her image as a reformer rings true… I dunno ’bout anyone else, but what I’ve read on this here mudflats blog points out that not only is Sarah Palin NOT a reformer in any sense of the word, but that she is the fact of public corruption in Alaska. Even more so than Ted Stevens.
replace “fact” with “face” please
I just got back from seeing “W”. It is really well done and I think Oliver Stone will finally get some credit for how he handled the story.
However, the antitdote to anyone even THINKING about wanting a return of Sarah Palin to national politics in 2012 — is to watch this movie! We must never, ever “go there” again.
@ scrimshaw
Many thanks for the link to the Obama pumpkin stencils! I’ve been saying I’d like to do one like the “O” logo, and lo and behold… and I’m known for generally NOT being a Halloween fan. Something about moms out with really young babies takes the fun out of it for me. Guess it goes back to the way I was raised — trick-or-treating only in my immediate neighborhood and not once I hit middle school.
Thanks Scrimshaw! Should have guessed the awesome Obama campaign would have pumpkin carving covered too; they think of everything!
@sauerkraut
Youbetcha!
crust-scramble, YES. http://www.palinaspresident.com just gets wilder and funnier. I almost fell out of my chair over the deer, bunny, and penguin. very clever people behind this. . .
Palin in Fort Wayne; “for small businesses and employees of”. She ended the sentence with “OF”. Beats “also” I suppose. 😉
God forbid that this should happen…but we cannot afford complacency folks.
Here is a spoof video to send to your family and friends who may still be on the fence…or leaning RED.
This video allows you to plug in the Name(s) of family and friends:
http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?nid=wTimemsuaXj4GxcDLNQqmDI4OD
E4MQ–&referred_by=10904007-qofFWNx
Don’t worry, this isn’t spam or a virus. I’m just sending it through the CNNBC website.
antiAnti (16:01:45)
Lonely lady!
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Sociopaths don’t get lonely. Trust me, I was married to one.
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SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick
Seems like they’ve got more than one thing to add each day. Love the Saks bags!
@Bobg (15:55:33) :
Actually, Alaskan Wild Salmon are very clean and uncontaminated (and they have lots of good omega fatty acids that are really good for everyone), so it actually would be a good thing.
_$1 million in 2005 went for mobile computers for police cars in Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,700.
Bobg I just read that and my eyebrows shot up off of my forehead!!! How many freaking police cars does Wasilla have????
Our next town over Pop. Just over 5,000 Just up graded their cars with a grant from the local Indian Tribe and It was in the thousands of dollars! 1 freaking million! Oh boy somebody put some money in their pocket on that one!
Proud Community OrganzierWA (16:17:40) :
$1 million in 2005 went for mobile computers for police cars in Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,700.
How many freaking police cars does Wasilla have????
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So, where did the rest of that million go? We know they didn’t spend them on rape kits.
Just watched the video on yeswecarve.com; now I have to go get more pumpkins since 2 doesn’t seem enough. Really great video!
that million dollars for the mobile computers includes a per diem payment for the police men and women (?) while they are at home and take the computer into the house with them to recharge. Hence the “mobile” aspect of them.
Maybe? Come on, it would explain it.
Crust Scramble,
I really think someone needs to investigate the Wassilla books!! Past and Present! Reporters if you are reading I think there maybe a very big story there.
There is noway those computers would cost One million.
What was the money from the rape kits used for? More things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmm
Ripley you are truly learning the Palinese language! OMG LOL
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (16:22:22) :
that million dollars for the mobile computers includes a per diem payment for the police men and women (?) while they are at home and take the computer into the house with them to recharge. Hence the “mobile” aspect of them.
Maybe? Come on, it would explain it.
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To the tune of a million bucks? What, do they also kill, clean, and cook moose?
Good evening, Mudpuppies! I just got back from volunteering at my local Obama campaign office. I just walked in and said, “What can I do?” So I did lots of phonebanking and a couple of odd jobs. I never phonebanked before but it was really easy. They give you a script to follow and a phone; you just pick a seat and dive in. Whenever anyone talked to an Obama voter, you ring a bell and everyone cheers. I got to ring the bell quite a few times! We were making calls to voters in Florida.
It was a busy place, with everything humming along in a quietly efficient manner. Everyone was upbeat but not over-confident. I especially liked the sign on the wall that said, “This is a drama-free zone!”
Proud Community OrganzierWA (16:23:07) :
Crust Scramble,
I really think someone needs to investigate the Wassilla books!! Past and Present!
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I agree. Being the information junkie that I am, I would LOVE to have a look at those books!
For the pumpkin lovers here, one more thing.
Wonderful video made by one of the Mudpuppies…
Partisan Political Pumpkins Battle to Squash Each Other.
Such a happy Ray Charles ending, too.
NMJ (16:25:32) :
Good for you! I’m still thinking Fla. might turn blue (like Ga., we’re getting bluer by the hour!)
Crust Scramble – SouthGA (16:24:41) :What, do they also kill, clean, and cook moose?
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Nah, they get their rathers to do that type of work, but the per diems include payment for cooking said Moosemeat, because you know, that computer also is just in the next room, and might actually be watching as you make your dinner, because then if so as to know where the meat came from and to record it, also. Of course, reforming the cook’s job and the… actually, you know, if you fire the cook, but then not really fire them, then the computer could be unplugged so that the moose meat was undiscoverable. Ness.
Ok, I’m scaring myself now.
“rathers” = FATHERS… another new Mudflats word!
Regarding the pipeline issue, and the following paragraph
“Under a different set of rules four years earlier, TransCanada had offered to build the pipeline without a state subsidy; under Palin, the company could receive a maximum $500 million.”
That $500 million is the subsidy amount. I’m no expert, my husband knows a lot more about this, though, and our understanding is that this $500 million is what the state will reimburse TransCanada for their financial outlay. For example, they spend $100 million (or the full $500 million) for permitting, studies, etc., and we reimburse them for those costs. That is in addition to any amount that we would pay for the actual construction of the pipeline (which would cost billions, I’m assuming). Further, that $500 million is a figure that the state is committed to (thanks to stupid Bible Spice) REGARDLESS of whether or not the pipleline is ever built. So, if they have been conducting “studies” and paying staff and lots of other things since the deal was signed, they have been racking up costs/charges, and the state of Alaska is obligated to reimburse those up to $500 million whatever the outcome of this pipeline.
Frankly, I have never seen it as a viable option, the following two reasons being the primary ones:
1) BP/Exxon/ConocoPhillips are the big 3 oil producers/operators on the North Slope (and elsewhere in AK), and they were essentially shut out of the bid process. That being the case, BP & COP are in the process of moving forward with their own pipeline, Denali. So, the TC pipeline could be built (but I doubt it), but who is going to put gas in it if the big oil companies have their own pipeline and refuse to use this bogus one? Um, nobody.
2) TransCanada is completely mired in legal difficulties from other pipelines projects that they currently have, and there is the possibility that those lawsuits could hamstring them or cause such huge problems that this pipeline could be delayed for years & years & years.
Okay, so added to that, the current price of oil (approx $75/bbl) does not make a pipeline a mission critical issue, not in the way that $150/bbl does.
I said it on the Forum back on Sept 21 (I checked the date!!!!) — Bible Spice’s staffer’s connections to TransCanada were fishy!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was reported superficially in the ADN some time ago, but there was never traction to get that story widely reported. The ADN probably got pressure NOT to dig any deeper. I am glad that someone finally took the time to do some digging and get those facts out, because I believe it’s all “empress’s new clothes” in regard to the pipeline thing, and A LOT of Alaskans have been having visions of high-paying jobs for years & years & years, bigger PFDs, etc., and her invisible clothes are part of her 80% (now down to 60%) approval rating. I hope some will wake up and smell the coffee now and realize Alaskans got screwed on this deal.
Let me wrap this up by saying that her HIGHER TAXES ON OIL COMPANIES claim is also crap. A) To my knowledge the higher taxes are actually windfall taxes, and only kick in when the price of oil is $X/bbl — I don’t think the price is high enough right now for those additional taxes to take effect, and B) The taxes were exponentially higher and therefore ensured that many projects were not cost effective for the big oil companies, and actually drove out the small independents, all of which meant FEWER JOBS FOR ALASKANS!!!!!
I have said all of this over & over & over, some of you may have heard this rant from me in the past already, but I guess the rest of the US is finally catching on! Now, if only Alaskans catch on to her smoke & mirrors & missing clothes all will be well……….
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (16:29:51) :
Ok, I’m scaring myself now.
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And me! So you’re applying for the Palinese translator job?
Still not home yet, but the wedding was beautiful! I’ve missed you mudpuppies and I won’t be back to my computer for several days! How will I ever know if CajunBoy’s story–alluded to above–goes on Monday or gets buried!
So glad to know many have voted early! We did so before we left NC. I’m elated over the many Obama signs seen in VA, MD, PA, NY and MA! Massachusetts simply overflowed with them.
The Obama stencils are as amazing as Palinspeak is daunting…and don’t forget, all those clothes fall into the category of “taxable income” and can’t be offset completely by a donation because the “used clothing” value is significantly less than the cost when new.***hearty laughter from the number crunchers in the peanut gallery***
AKM–your flow of information continues to glue us here. You are like Scheherazade…spinning new tales each day, captivating us with colorful tales of the ill fated Palins!
@InJuneau & Bobg — Keep in mind that right NOW Alaskan salmon are clean & contaminant-free, but thanks to Bible Spice’s coming out against Prop 4 (clean water initiative) and its subsequent defeat, Alaskan salmon now will have lots of lovely mine-runoff water to swim in!!!!! Yum yum.
SMR (16:31:13) :
This sounds like a MUCH bigger story than all the other ‘gates’ put together.
Being a ‘lower 48’ when you talk about the north slope, can you tell me where that is and how much of Alaska is considered the north slope? Thanks for this. I’ll have to start digging (or drilling).
CassieJeep(visiting) (16:36:49) :
I miss you! Glad you’re safe, and headed home.
Apologies if this has already been posted, but you guys and gals have to see Joe Biden take on one of the most unprofessional reporters I’ve ever seen!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/biden-slammed-during-flor_n_137830.html
Whatever mistakes he’s made in the past with his ‘flourishing comments’… he made up for them in spades! WAY TO GO JOE!
You really need to check out this picture. McCain as the joker.
@SMR (16:36:53) :
Hey now, we’re keeping ours down here in SE safe, at least until the Tulsaquah Chief mine in Canada reopens…
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
Something to keep a eye out for this weekend-maybe
from the bog owner…
“that i last heard, the story is set to run on monday. i suppose all we can do is cross our fingers that it doesn’t get killed by the editorial board. but yes, it does involve the birth of trig.”
Happy Sunday morning in Puck Mule Town.
Today we welcome Sista Susan, Sista Bust and Sista Pie. We also welcome Bob Dylan and Motown.
The Church of Puck Mule has been blessed with an abundance of wine, chocolate and pie. Now, what to do?
Fling open the doors and invite the poor and lonely (and the terrible dancers) to a fabulous party!
Then we can start again. On November 4, long lines will form outside poll venues in the poorer parts of town and people will wait for hours to exercise their democratic right to vote. People need chocolate and pie to keep their energy up. They also need music. They need buskers, and hot dogs, and coffee.
Brother Meat Nosegay 😉 you seem well-placed to do the hot dog thing; I know we can count on you.
Volunteers for entertainment are needed ….. anything that can bring a smile – however wry …… 😀
In reguards to the “keep a eye out” story…first dud is VERY CREEPY
That’s all I’m going to say….
Creepy how?
SWWNBN has riled the scientific community, who are flinging off their labcoats and rolling up their sleeves. Uh-oh!
Sarah Palin: Ignorant and anti-science
“This idiot woman, this blind, shortsighted ignoramus, this pretentious clod, mocks basic research and the international research community. You damn well better believe that there is research going on in animal models — what does she expect, that scientists should mutagenize human mothers and chop up baby brains for this work?”
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/10/sarah_palin_ignorant_and_antis.php
Fruit flies. also.
@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (16:45:30) :
Happy Sunday morning in Puck Mule Town.
Today we welcome Sista Susan, Sista Bust and Sista Pie. We also welcome Bob Dylan and Motown.
…
Fling open the doors and invite the poor and lonely (and the terrible dancers) to a fabulous party!
Oh thank you! And if we’re welcoming terrible dancers, I’ll bring along the spouse!
Here is something about an upcoming (I hope) expose on SP
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
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OMG! OMG! Please let the story that Cajun Boy references come out Monday and please for the love of all things holy let it be that Trig’s not her baby!
You know, all these baiting headlines about some bombshell regarding SWWNBN’s child (or not) and his parentage (is he the first Dud’s?) are not going to have any effect on the election. I think the MSM needs to get working hard on the money trail, as noted earlier here. Her cronyism and politics smell bad, and they need to track down the rotting pile of guts.
ew.
Oh for Gosh sakes I just read on Huffpo that Palin in one of her speeches today is now saying Obama and an Obama admistration would turn us into a communist country!
Can these two brain dead people pick a talking point?? So is he a communist, a marxist, a socialist? What is it?
I really am thinking both SP and JM need meds High dosages of meds! Either that or I am going to my doctor on Monday and asking for my own high dosage so I can zone out until Obama wins!
@ caligrl Hussein wolves eat palin,
You get the same feelng I do about him, I think that family is hidding a real dark sordid secret. Wouldn’t this be one big (hide your face and never appear)
scandal.
Lorrie went and watched the interview with Joe Biden it was fantastic!
I think the reporter was actually Nancy Pfotenauer in disguise! Very weird how all of the questions were talking points from the Straight Loser Express campaign.
Joe got the last shot in though didn’t he? LOL
Lorrie (16:39:43) :
Thanks so much for the Joe Biden interview. What a nonjournalistic bitch! And what a GREAT VP! Hooray, Joe!
“Rogue or Vogue Dissension in the Palin/McCain camp.”
Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin “going rogue.”
A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to “bust free” of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.
McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls — recorded messages often used to attack a candidate’s opponent — “irritating” even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign’s decision to pull out of Michigan.
A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign. ( No surprise there.)*
~CNN.com
shilo442 (16:58:59) :
@ caligrl Hussein wolves eat palin,
You get the same feelng I do about him, I think that family is hidding a real dark sordid secret. Wouldn’t this be one big (hide your face and never appear)
scandal.
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Yep! And I so hope and pray it is not the case…for the sake of the kids. This would be horrible, and for Bible spice, this would take her down, totally.
I believe it’s called ‘incest’. And remember, Alaska rates Number One in sexual crimes in the nation.
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (16:54:33) :
You know, all these baiting headlines about some bombshell regarding SWWNBN’s child (or not) and his parentage (is he the first Dud’s?) are not going to have any effect on the election. I think the MSM needs to get working hard on the money trail, as noted earlier here. Her cronyism and politics smell bad, and they need to track down the rotting pile of guts.
ew.
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I second that emotion. To me, the only thing that will get her personally is her anti-American witch hunting religion.
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Proud Community OrganzierWA (16:58:28) :
I really am thinking both SP and JM need meds High dosages of meds!
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I think they’re already on high dosages of meds!
Crust Scramble – SouthGA (16:32:19) to Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT:
And me! So you’re applying for the Palinese translator job?
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didn’t I sing this tune previously??
turning palinese-ah
really turning palinese-ah
really think so!
btw, the million for the cop car computers… maybe some of that had to go build the house in which the computes are plugged in for recharging? ie, housegate?
wired hussein differently (17:09:47) :
I believe it’s called ‘incest’.
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whhhooooaaaa… is it being suggested that Bristol is not currently pregnant but that Trig is hers and the father is… noooooo.
ugh.
that’s an ugly accusation.
even uglier if there is any truth behind it.
gads.
@ caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (17:08:21) :
I hope for the girls sake it’s not true either but there’s something so Sad about the one girl. I really don’t think Palin cares much for her children,, the way she uses them as props out there. I really think Sarah cares for Sarah. I really think it’s a disfunctional family.
Just to changed the thread above, I’ve posted some portraits. We had a super turnout today at the Alaskan Women (and men and children) for Obama rally today. I didn’t count, but many, many hardy and handsome Alaskans braved the cold to form an American flag and then an Obama sign.
Let’s focus on the positive here!
I don’t know what the bombshell story really is. But all the hesitant, don’t wanna go there, can’t name it stuff is definitely about that possibility.
Here’s a funny from a friend in CA. Now, of course, I would say this overlooks which states are turning blue at present, not to mention the pockets of blue and the Yellow Dog Democrats I knew when I lived in GA. And of course, all the Muddies everywhere.
Some grins for Saturday.
To: Everyone
From The Blue States
We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren’t aware, that includes California , Hawaii , Oregon , Washington, Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois and all the Northeast.
We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty.
You get Dollywood. We get Intel, Mac, and Microsoft.
You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.
We get 85 percent of America ‘s venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families.
You get a bunch of single Hockey moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once.
If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home.
We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of America ‘s quality wines, 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford , Cal , Yale, Harvard, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University ,Clemson and the University of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite , thank you.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws.
44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties..
Finally, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have hat dirt weed they grow in Mexico.
Peace out,
Blue States
Oops. Forgot to add a link: Alaska for Obama rally.
Proud Community OrganzierWA (16:58:28) :
” So is he a communist, a marxist, a socialist? What is it?”
McCain says Obama is a Bush Republican.
Take a look at Obama’s mot recent economic speech where he comments on McCain’s claims (around 1:20) http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mBZwDqRNa3E
Deuce2 (16:43:06) :
Love that poster and I think that McCain is the Penguin.
And I’ll try once again to post about the article I found on
yahoo’s Top Stories today. About that fab pipeline deal SP
talks up like it’s under construction or something. Well we know
it’s a ‘pipe dream’ but this is the first lengthy feature piece I’ve seen yet. And I’ll break up the long link so it might post this time. Prepare to
cut and paste:
AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids… http://
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/
palin_pipeline;_ylt=AiUUrVz_wbTz_Fb54WUvuYAb.3QA
It is really long and detailed, and I haven’t read it all yet.
@Lorrie (16:39:43) :
Apologies if this has already been posted, but you guys and gals have to see Joe Biden take on one of the most unprofessional reporters I’ve ever seen!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/biden-slammed-during-flor_n_137830.html
Whatever mistakes he’s made in the past with his ‘flourishing comments’… he made up for them in spades! WAY TO GO JOE!
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Not to be missed!
We clearly have the only Joe we need. 😉
shilo442 (17:15:06) :
I saw a pic of Bristol, when Bible first got picked, she was with another girl, laughing smiling (holding a bottle of whisky)Probably 1 1/2 -2 yrs ago, very boyish figure. 2 years later she has the body of a Mom! Bible is NOT Breast feeding, not in those fancy power suits, she is very small, on the other hand Bristol is Mom-like, and has a haunting sadness, except when she is holding Trig. And we havn’t seen Bristol lately its Piper who looks alot like Bristol. And dud, is just CREEPY!!!
@ scrimshaw and others looking for the AP story on the pipeline deal. It’s the lead story on Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com
White Agate (17:16:46) : Here’s a funny from a friend in CA. Now, of course, I would say this overlooks which states are turning blue at present, not to mention the pockets of blue and the Yellow Dog Democrats I knew when I lived in GA. And of course, all the Muddies everywhere.
Oh, that was rich! Open doc, copy & paste, save for later!
Well Ripley- **MAYBE** but it could also be that the alleged “BIG STORY” is sordid and creepy enough to really turn off main stream Americans and fundamentalists too.
I like staying on the issues and following the money- but I also like ANY story that shows SP for what she is. Liar, schemer, mean, ignorant etc.
@ Proud Community OrganzierWA (16:23:07) :
Crust Scramble,
I really think someone needs to investigate the Wassilla books!! Past and Present! Reporters if you are reading I think there maybe a very big story there.
There is noway those computers would cost One million.
What was the money from the rape kits used for? More things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmm
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I remember that a few years ago (06 maybe) my small town of 7 police cars got a grant from Homeland Security for mobile police computers. The grant was for $35k so each computer with all the software was about $5k. Went googling and found that these types of computers installed and everything are around $3500 each in 08. So if this was in 05 you can figure around $5k each plus whatever shipping from the lower 48. So for $1M, you could get 2000 computers. You just can’t tell me that Wasilla had 2000 police cars or that all that money some didn’t fall into someone’s pocket. This needs to be investigated and the $$ accounted for.
I was getting my hair done this afternoon and I was fortunate enough to be able to read the latest Rolling Stone cover story which is a Barack Obama interview. Excellent interview! A must-read
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/23589412/
There were just so many good things in this article. Everything from his fundraising successes, his plan for college students to earn college credits by doing community service, his foreign policy plan, his complete disregard for his clothes, his wish list for the White House (indoor basketball court), his anniversary present for Michelle and much more…
A couple great answers.
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (17:08:21) :
You so right. You think that’s one of the reason’s she doesn’t want her medical records released? There’s something in there she doesn’t want anyone to know about and I’m thinking it can only be one thing.
I know the topic has been discouraged, but I am a 3-time mother and … I’m sorry, Ms. Palin sure as heck doesn’t look like she was preggers for Trig.
It would be neglectful of us to not keep a watch on Bristol, who (in order to quash the nasty rumors) was reported to be pregnant 5 months in early September. She should be 8 months almost now, due early December. Course, we have seen zero pics of the unwed mother since that announcement.
Once again, forgive me, but I do not think such questions are out of bounds.
OMG! We got a “shout out” from a commenter on Cajun Boy’s blog:
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/something-to-keep-eye-out-for-this.html
“I don’t know if you follow the Alaskan Blog, Mudflats; but your report of “the story” coming out on Monday is linked there,so you will be getting more traffic.
You should check out the Muddies, those AK folks are fabulous.”
Thanks Anon 😀
NoCalGal (17:26:44) :
Well Ripley- **MAYBE** but it could also be that the alleged “BIG STORY” is sordid and creepy enough to really turn off main stream Americans and fundamentalists too.
I like staying on the issues and following the money- but I also like ANY story that shows SP for what she is. Liar, schemer, mean, ignorant etc.
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I’m with you, NoCalGal. The other just makes me feel sleazy. I just don’t want to go there.
Except to say, if there is sleaze, I just want to hug her children, and tell them I’m here for them, and adopt them, and read to them, and tuck them in at night, and help them with their homework, and tell them they’re OK, and a million other things that make them feel valued and important.
Check out this poll; scroll down and you can see how many people voted from each of around 200 different countries for Obama or McC. 87% pro-Obama!
If The World Could Vote
http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results
shilo442 (17:34:41) :
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (17:08:21) :
You so right. You think that’s one of the reason’s she doesn’t want her medical records released? There’s something in there she doesn’t want anyone to know about and I’m thinking it can only be one thing.
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When the whole BG popped up, there was a commenter on a local paper here, in SF,CA and he has a lawyer friend in Wasilla, who he visits alot, and he said “it was common knowledge in Wasilla Bristol was pregnant” So why when she’s running for VP throw Bristol under the train….(She’s pregnant now) instead of just coming out before Oh Bristols preggers??? Why now, not then???
After the GOP blames SP for their lose, she’ll get her own TV show… Help Name It!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/236com-name-sarah-palins_n_137813.html
Here’s an interesting report from the Sunday Telegraph (UK) on the coming GOP civil war. Or link to it from Huffington Post as the link’s pretty long. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html
It connects in one place a number of persons and ideas that have been floating around recently — the fears of an Obama landslide combined with control (even the 60 Senate seat option) of both houses of Congress. Watching who wins this civil war will be most interesting. Should the Palinistas win, I can’t help but think that the GOP is doomed as a party since they’ll either chase away or expel the thinking conservatives.
The McCain camp is JUST NOW figuring out that Sarah is a back-biter? I knew within a week of McCain’s choosing of her that he better watch his back. (Thanks to Mudflats, of course.) She will have to wait until 2012 to run for President, but I bet she would run NOW if she could figure a way to get rid of him! Of course her children are sad; they are being raised by an absent mother who eats her own young. I hope Alaskans will finish her off when she returns Nov. 5; I dread facing the spectre of SP running in ’12.
Sue (17:47:56) : Of course her children are sad; they are being raised by an absent mother who eats her own young.
I saw an informal interview with the Obama family on Access the other night, and the children are so bright, happy, and lively. They spontaneously contributed to the interview, and were well-spoken and curious. The whole family was close and comfortable with being casual, open, and touching/leaning against each other.
And then you see Palin’s family…
Muddpuppies! I just have word about that idiot that is suing BO about his “Birth cert”
This comes from a astrologer who is following the story. Maybe we can get the Muddflats legal dept to weigh in on this? Well it seems to be good news for BO!
Yesterday, U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed the law suit filed by Philip J. Berg against Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee on the basis that Berg lacked the standing to file the case. This is what Obama’s attorneys had maintained.
To make this somewhat clear, several parties claimed that Obama’s failure to respond meant that a default judgment in favor of Berg had occurred. I asked a couple of attorneys for their opinions and one clarified for me that the action taken by Obama’s counsel maintaining that Berg lacked standing would no doubt prevail. Obviously, he knows his stuff.
Unfortunately, this does not answer any of the questions raised in the law suit but it does make this particular suit go away. It is therefore anyone’s guess whether a party with the proper standing and right to sue will do so in another court.
Yesterday, U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed the law suit filed by Philip J. Berg against Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee on the basis that Berg lacked the standing to file the case. This is what Obama’s attorneys had maintained.
To make this somewhat clear, several parties claimed that Obama’s failure to respond meant that a default judgment in favor of Berg had occurred. I asked a couple of attorneys for their opinions and one clarified for me that the action taken by Obama’s counsel maintaining that Berg lacked standing would no doubt prevail. Obviously, he knows his stuff.
Unfortunately, this does not answer any of the questions raised in the law suit but it does make this particular suit go away. It is therefore anyone’s guess whether a party with the proper standing and right to sue will do so in another court.
If this has been posted.. forgive the repeat….
when you go watch the OLD what’s up video FIRST… (below the new one)
Then stick with the new what’s up video to the end..
http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/
ocliberal (17:34:18) :
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THANK YOU for the quotes from Rolling Stone—-going over there now to read it all.
We WILL have, as our president, the smartest man in the room!
naturalredhead (17:17:13)
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Is there an arial pic of the flag? If so, please give us a
link to it. Please………………………..!
ocliberal (17:34:18) :
Thanks for the Rolling Stone article, I’ll be sending this one out.
I’m always reassured by Obama. These are perilous times. He is the One to lead us through them.
@caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (17:55:13) :
Muddpuppies! I just have word about that idiot that is suing BO about his “Birth cert”
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This post has a lot of the pertinent information that put the BO’s birth certificate to bed in August. Even though the right wing media is trying to insinuate the false in order to keep the lore alive, they steer clear of calling for the facts, because the facts are out there and easy to find. Even Corsi’s employer laid the fantasy to rest in August of this year.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200810230020?f=h_top
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (17:23:19) :
Love that poster and I think that McCain is the Penguin.
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OOps: my mistake. I wasn’t thinkin’. Got a copy framed on
my wall.
Crust Scramble – SouthGA (17:39:27) :
Except to say, if there is sleaze, I just want to hug her children, and tell them I’m here for them, and adopt them, and read to them, and tuck them in at night, and help them with their homework, and tell them they’re OK, and a million other things that make them feel valued and important.
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Sleaze or not, the neglect they have apparently endured calls us all to “have a care” for each of those children, to keep them in our thoughts, to hope for something more for them than they have received, and to NOT allow their parents to serve in Washington and foist them even further away due to VP duty.
I thinks we mudpuppies have cared more for them in the past two months than they’ve enjoyed in their lives, thus far.
Just read this for 30 seconds then forget what you have read until when the polls close on November 4th, 2008. We must absolutely crush and even totally destroy them where possible with one of greatest landslides ever.
“It’s hard to see a turnaround in the White House race,” he said. “This could look like an ideological as well as a party victory if we’re not careful. It could be 1980 in reverse.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html
Ice Floe Barbie will be the gift that keeps on giving. She is going to split the Republican Party unto political death forever. If the fundamentalist wing of the Republican Party think she is the new Ronald Reagan of their Party then let them keep the delusion up for 2012 when she will take them to total defeat.
Total destruction is coming. McLameBrain’s impulsive choice of this idiot is total nuclear fission for the GOP. Wow.
caligirl,
Judge Surrick also called Berg’s claims “ridiculous” and “patently false”. This lawsuit seemed to be more about Berg than Obama, Berg is a publicity seeking nutjob.
After the Fox and other media hype over Ashley Todd, it’s interesting to see the contrast with Nancy Takehara and the Obama campaign’s reaction to Ronald Goetsch’s assault on her.
http://www.wisn.com/video/17757962/index.html
“Takehara says Goetsch grabbed her by the back of the neck and was pounding her head and screaming.
Goetsch tells The Journal Times in Racine that he did pull the woman’s hair and regrets his actions.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/midwest/view/2008_10_23_Wisconsin_police_investigating_attack_on_Obama_campaign_worker/
Sue – for sure. Several people commented on mudflats within the first 24 hours that McCain had better watch his back because Sarah Palin’s history shows that she bites the helping hands that feed her. Indeed, I believe Lyda Green made similar suggestions at the RNC.
Sarah Palin is just plain NOT good people. She’s like those nasty kids we had to deal with back in jr. high/middle school. And she’s not grown up one bit since she was 12 or 13 or so.
CRAP!!! Someone stole our yard sign! We’d been taking it in at night. It’s 7:10 p.m. We were out the last several evenings, home tonight. Tomorrow I make a “Someone Stole our Obama-Biden Sign” and put it out. And order some new real ones to go along with.
I imagine that means our We Can Carve pumpkin will also be destroyed. Well, we can put that in the window…
Got waylaid on the wrong thread!
about that Biden interview with WFTV – Obama cuts them off! You go, Sir.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-stationv/
No guarantee that replacement signs will get here in time… and there’s no office nearby. Sigh.
Only one thing was noticeably different tonight… the light in our front room was on when we were gone and dark tonight when we’re home. Might be worth passing on to the rest of you.
Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/25/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he is immediately appealing the dismissal of his case to the United States Supreme Court. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
We have to let him know he’s nuts.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.com
I don’t know about this stupid e-mail address he has but I wrote to him there anyway.
aligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (17:55:13) :
You may find this interesting
PHILIP BERG IS A NUTJOB
By Charlie Sykes
http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/33224864.html
You’re right, CassieJeep(visiting) (18:05:20) :
They’ve been in my thoughts and prayers since the beginning.
Cassie – there are times when I think the best thing for those children is to have their self-absorbed parents in Washington, DC. Then I remember there are a ton of children who will be better off if those two idiots are NOT anywhere but in Alaska.
No offense intended towards Alaskans, of course. But maybe ya alls can find a couple of nice cozy jail cells for those two and, if rumor is right, Pam Smart has been without a roommate down in Bedford Hills, NY, for a few years. Just think… Pam and Sarah spending the night in the same small space.
OK! Now I’m really ticked. I went to huffpo and watched that witch interview Biden. He did very well. I’m thinking she’s either a die-hard Rethug or trying hard to get to a bigger market. Then I clicked the link to go watch the one she did with JM. Her very first question showed little knowledge of either ACORN or of what has caused the financial crisis. She posed it as ACORN’s fault and that sub-prime mortgages CAUSED the financial crisis. I’m officially pissed.
For the record, sub-prime mortgages didn’t CAUSE the financial crisis. It was the dipshits on Wall Street who packaged bits and pieces of mortgages into “safe” mortgage backed securities. The investment banks bought millions and millions of these securities and sold millions and millions with borrowed money. As soon as the housing bubble burst however, the values of all the mortgage backed securities had to be reduced because default rates on the underlying mortgages started rising. What you say? Why not just let the mortgages mature and we’ll still get our money! Well and good if the banks hadn’t borrowed the money to buy them in the first place. Margin call. Oh but there should be insurance! Right? Uh, well… it was all done without proper insurance on those mortgages. Why wasn’t there insurance? Cause those same Wall Street experts decided they didn’t need actual insurance. They sold what they called “insurance” but wasn’t really insurance, it was called a credit default swap and since it “wasn’t insurance” it wasn’t regulated which was precisely why they did it. A credit default swap is a contract between two people, one of whom is giving insurance to the other that he will be paid in the event that a financial institution, or a financial instrument, fails. It is an insurance contract, but they’ve been very careful not to call it that because if it were insurance, it would be regulated. So they use a magic substitute word called a “swap” which by virtue of federal law is deregulated. That’s what happened to AIG and why they needed bailed out. They couldn’t pay off all the credit default swaps they had sold. Why? Because it wasn’t insurance and it wasn’t REGULATED. If it had been regulated, they would have by law had to have the money on hand to pay all policies but since it wasn’t insurance…well you see where I’m going. And it was all done because of GREED. The cause of the financial crisis? Not the poor people who had bad credit or no credit getting a sub-prime mortgage. It was AIG’s and the investment banks’ greed that caused the financial crisis that we are in.
Do you all know that many homes being foreclosed on right now cannot be foreclosed because the stupid banks don’t even have the paperwork to prove ownership? Yes, it’s true.
I read somewhere that a few years back that Warren Buffett said credit default swaps were dangerous and would “financial weapons of mass destruction”. He warned against them. Glad he’s got O’s back.
Sad news tonight.
An Arkansas television anchorwoman died Saturday, several days after being found beaten in her home when she didn’t answer her wake-up call, hospital officials said.
Anne Pressly, 26, died at St. Vincent Infirmary Medical Center, hospital spokeswoman Margaret Preston said.
Please pray for her family and friends.
Crust Scramble – SouthGA (17:39:27) :
Except to say, if there is sleaze, I just want to hug her children, and tell them I’m here for them, and adopt them, and read to them, and tuck them in at night, and help them with their homework, and tell them they’re OK, and a million other things that make them feel valued and important.
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You got me mopping my eyes there. I think one reason this election has me turned upside down, is having grown up with a narcissistic mother. When Deepak Chopra described SWWNBN as our shadow, that certainly rang true for me. I have been staring at shadows on the cave wall ever since I learned of her existence.
shilo442 (18:17:51) : Re Phillip Berg
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Let the old fool waste his time and money—this has already been debunked.
Barack Obama is completely eligible to serve as president of the United States and eminently qualified to do so!
That reporter died? Sheeeshh… they ever say if they have a suspect or a motive for that brutal beating?
I’ll adopt you too, Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein. I do love cat people. They’re the best!
@ shilo442 (17:15:06) :
@ caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin:
Could not agree more about the whole dysfunctional family thing! And since Aug. 30 I’ve been praying for some MSM to look into that family really closely. Yes, the Dud is creepy, and even her AK politicians blast her parenting (the lack of it — she has no interest in it). But there is something very, very wrong! God I hope this story breaks. And the reason it needs to break mainstream is because she must be removed from the national stage once and for all… She cannot be allowed to re-enter politics again at any point! She is truly frightening.
sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy
Apparently her cc was used at a Shell station nearby which supposedly has lots of cameras. The police are looking at the video now.
OMG! D. L. Hughley on CNN just interviewed Miss Alaska 1984. She said she sang a song in Russian, so she feels she has some foreign policy experience! LOL
I tuned into this by accident…D. L. Hughley Breaks the News. Seems pretty good.
Speaking of signs. Here in my city there is an empty lot on the busiest intersection of the city. Every election it ‘blossoms’ into a garden of election signs, mostly local city council, school boards, water district etc.
My city is 70% Republican, 30% Democratic so I’ve been on the lookout for McCain/Palin signs but I haven’t seen any. But today as I drove by this lot, right smack in the middle of the lot was a huge handmade sign. It’s probably 12 ft wide x 4 feet wide. It said Obama/Biden and had the beautiful Obama logo hand-painted on it. It was truly a labor of love. It was the biggest sign there. My heart just swelled with pride! I can’t tell you how that sign made me feel.
It was the same feeling I got when i saw all the handmade signs at the Alaskans Against Palin rally.
@Crust Scramble — the North Slope is the upper 1/3 (approx) of Alaska. Oil speak for the part of Alaska where the oil drilling is. A flight from Anchorage to Deadhorse (which is the jumping-off spot for jobs on the Prudhoe side) is 1 hour and 50 minutes.
And yes, this is a HUGE story, it dwarfs the others in the sense that Alaskans and so many others are completely blind to the realities of the situation, and the lies & obfuscation related to it could & should tear down that approval rating here in AK. Not only are so many Alaskans utterly blind to fact that this pipeline is, at this point, a mirage &/or house of cards, they are also blind to the fact that Alaska is now obliged to fund what could be an exercise in futility, and have refused to acknowledge the deeply flawed bid process. There were endless stories about the bid process in ADN while it was ongoing, and plenty of dissenting voices among the public, the legislature and the oil companies. In my opinion, BP/Exxon/COP had plenty of ground for lawsuits (and maybe they did threaten it or even do it), but ultimately the best way for them to thumb their noses at Bible Spice was to go ahead and move forward with their own pipeline.
To really understand the enormity of this, you have to understand the very strange Alaskan attitude toward the oil companies… This will be very long & complicated, but I’ll give it a shot, at least my opinion/perspective, of course:
Alaskans have made it a full-time job hating on the oil companies. Of course you will not find oil employees (such as my husband & myself pre-latest-baby) hating on them, but you will find thousands & thousands & thousands hating on them, totally overlooking the fact that almost every person in this state is dependent upon them, regardless of whether or not they are actually directly employed by them. Alaska has a huge number of state employees. State employees would be laid of by the thousands if the oil companies disappeared. Doctors would have no patients, attorneys would have no clients, population dwindles, so fewer police officers/firefighters/etc., blah blah, you get my drift — Alaska becomes a bit of a ghost town apart from the hard-core Alaska lovers & military (I think we’d find out quickly how few of those AK lovers there are).
So, a lot of these oil-company-haters want more money every year in their PFD checks. They want to know why they aren’t getting more when oil prices are so high. Enter Bible Spice with her windfall tax on oil companies. Okay, that worked this year, but next year the population sees that the money is not there (oil has dropped, so PFDs will also drop, and the $1200 extra this year is not supposed to happen again next year or ever again), so they will be going through withdrawals and wondering how they can stick it to the oil companies in some other way. They have seen Bible Spice as their messiah, thanks to those windfall taxes and the extra $1200 — hence the 80% approval rating (which I really don’t get, since my family has always hated her, regardless of that handout, we were all against it). And of course even though they hate the oil companies, they have visions of sugarplums dancing in their heads — the sugarplums taking the form of oil jobs that pay $100k per year & much more — thanks to this TC pipeline that will now be built thanks to Bible Spice.
Problem is, they just don’t get the big picture, don’t see the truth, don’t want to see the truth because it really is quite unpleasant. Much better to think that you are screwing the oil companies that you feel are screwing you every time you fill up your car or pay your heating bill or whatever, and that you will soon get that job that they OWE you. They don’t understand that the TC pipeline is unlikely to get built within the next 10 years, and I, personally, believe it’s quite possible that it will NEVER be built. And they just do NOT understand the implications of that windfall tax that was so outrageous that it led to the elimination of lots of projects by the big oil companies, and made it completely impossible for the small independents to move forward with their plans, so they left. The very best thing for Alaska would have been to attract small independents, to allow them the chance to expand their reserves/portfolios here, and have the jobs that would have come with that. So, Bible Spice did what they asked her to do — screw the oil companies & get that gas pipeline thing pushed through — but she totally screwed Alaska & Alaskans in the ways in which she did those things. They don’t get it now, maybe some of them are starting to get it, it will be a time-release thing…
God, I’ve got to stop writing &/or thinking about this stuff — it’s so frustrating! With the info about the TC pipeline showing up on the MSM today I’ve had to explain all of this to my mother & aunt as well! Argh! But I am happy to explain it to my mudflatter friends. Keep in mind that Bible Spice, not me, is the foremost energy expert of the U.S., so you have to take that into consideration when reading what I’ve written here. However, my husband did say that he was quite insulted when McLame called her that — said “I’m much more of an energy expert than she is!!!” and I agree with him. He is pretty brilliant (if he’s reading this) and is privy to some great info from meetings that he shares with me when he gets home! Of course, there are probably about 1,000 oil company employees here in Alaska that are more expert than she is, and once you add in the employees in other states, well, you get the idea…
Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 07:26:20 PM PDT
David Frum, a former speechwriter for GW Bush, and a noted neo-conservative has now called for a halt to any further funding of the disastrous campaign of John McCain. He wants all Republicans to stop pretending that McCain has a chance and to change the dynamic of the race. He wants McCain and all Republicans to say that we are most certainly going to have a Democrat in the White House and to keep the Democrats from having total control, you have to vote for ME, the down ticket Republican. In an editorial in the Washington Post, Frum says:
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (18:22:59) :
I’ll adopt you, too! And you’ll get three great sisters, one great brother, a wonderful sister-in-law and a brand new brother-in-law!
Crust Scramble—My heart breaks. Anne Pressly was on the threshold of so much promise…now denied forever………..
David Frum, a former speechwriter for GW Bush, and a noted neo-conservative has now called for a halt to any further funding of the disastrous campaign of John McCain. He wants all Republicans to stop pretending that McCain has a chance and to change the dynamic of the race. He wants McCain and all Republicans to say that we are most certainly going to have a Democrat in the White House and to keep the Democrats from having total control, you have to vote for ME, the down ticket Republican. In an editorial in the Washington Post, Frum says:
re: Scrimshaw et al:
One thing that I was just prompted to write about suddenly was spurred by your last comment. Having SWWNBN come out and having us pick apart her psyche has really brought up some ugly things for me, too. Some ugly past associations that have left scars. She is to be feared. Truly. Our collective gut feeling about her trumps any issues about her policy, her political past, or her campaign promises. We KNOW her kind. And the scary thing is that many of us have run into people in our lives like her… and have run far in the opposite direction once we figured it out. The lucky ones, that is. Some may be still dealing with the narcissists, the sociopaths, the chronic liars, the abusers of truth…..
I think I am more fearful of her from my gut, than from my brain.
Crust Scramble:
OK, totally sniffling now. Off to give 4 cats supper…
Great new story about de-funding McCain/Palin
Take The Wheels Off the Straight Talk Express!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/25/215236/81/384/642354
NMJ (18:29:41) : Re Miss AK
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She has a website…posted here ages ago….and she has a really soothing voice.
Try Googling her!
@ shilo442 (17:15:06) :
@ caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin:
Could not agree more about the whole dysfunctional family thing! And since Aug. 30 I’ve been praying for some MSM to look into that family really closely. Yes, the Dud is creepy, and even her AK politicians blast her parenting (the lack of it — she has no interest in it). But there is something very, very wrong! God I hope this story breaks. And the reason it needs to break mainstream is because she must be removed from the national stage once and for all… She cannot be allowed to re-enter politics again at any point! She is truly frightening.
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Yes I’m afraid she will try to weasel out of any “Gate” situation, but something creepy about the family would take her down. I feel terrible everytime I see her dragging Trig around and passing him off to Piper/Bristol. This is a very dysfunctional Family! Trig should be receiving special care, Bristol and Willow and Piper SCHOOL! She is dragging these kids around…WHY???
Why can’t first dud stay home and take care??? Or maybe that is the problem?
I feel sorry for those children. She doesn’t deserve them.
Here is the whole dump McCain story in tomorrows Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302081.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
@caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (17:24:11) :
Actually, that’s Willow who looks so much like Bristol. Piper is the little one.
Even if there’s a new, embarrassing, or grotesque story about Palin — all they have to do is tell a lie which can’t be publicly and definitively refuted before Nov. 4. They can even flip the story to make it look like a crazy lefty attack on her. Better for now for us to stick to the big and documented issues, including SP’s total unreadiness to be commander in chief. McCain and company are not above planting a false story if they can then show that it’s false and attribute the origin of the story to the Obama camp, MSM, or points left. “We were hit by the media/Obama/MoveOn etc” they could cry — just like that Texas woman who went to a battleground state to stage her “false flag” attack.
Sorry to hear the Arkansas reporter died today. I just saw here this afternoon in a bit part in the movie “W”.
SMR (18:34:17) :
OK. I’ve got to get up there and meet you folks.
I think I’m beginning to have an inkling. This could be the ‘October surprise’ that we’ve all been hearing about.
In case you haven’t noticed, I’m an information junkie. I am terminally curious. And I hate it and it just pisses me off when all the information isn’t readily available to those who matter.
Thanks, SMR. I’ve got research to do.
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Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (18:36:36) :
Hugs to you and your catlets.
bPoint (18:36:58) :
Great new story about de-funding McCain/Palin
Take The Wheels Off the Straight Talk Express!
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And deep in the article is the “authorization” for SWWNBN ( or Bible Spice) to
use every buzz word she’s ever heard ( and likely never understood) like socialisrt, communist, etc. ad nauseum…..
CassieJeep(visiting) (18:35:14) :
My heart breaks. Anne Pressly was on the threshold of so much promise…now denied forever………..
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I feel so bad for her parents. Senseless violence.
@BigPete (15:13:41) :
@Bobg
It has been suggested that some people, not understanding a word Palin is saying, are quite impressed with her ’smartedness’……the people at her rallies, perhaps?
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nope not just at the rallys…………I have a neighbor who also thinks she is VERY smart……….i told her my sister who happens to have the same degree with a minor in histoy and is also very smart is not ready for the white house
WV Democrat (18:21:21) :
You are 100% correct. For further links see my discussion thread on Are We Buying Mortgages Or Are We Buying Derivatives ? in the Forum.
But there is one more point you didn’t mention.
Get this twist! You didn’t even have to actually own the loan asset to insure it! You could bet on other people’s loans failing and collect the insurance on their loan too! Then you could even trade these pieces of paper too with other people as the odds went up and down that the original loan would fail! The original loan is often a bond issue on corporate debt. If one big corporation defaults on a huge issue of corporate debt AT ANY TIME NOW it could trigger a huge insurance “pay up now chain reaction margin call” WORLD WIDE wide taking down bank after bank, hedge fund after hedge fund, insurance company after insurance company and ENTIRE NATIONAL ECONOMIES! Do you understand that the people trying to deal with this are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED no matter what you hear on the MSM! No one knows for sure what to do. We have never faced anything like this in the history of the world. All on GWB’s Harvard MBA watch!
So now we have invented something being called “Save Your Corporate Ass Now Just In Time Regulated Capitalism” (SYCANJITRC) Reagan Republicans are now partially nationalizing banks they are so scared shitless!
See my post today in the Mudflats Forum on last weeks case with the Lehman Brothers CDS settlement on Thursday.
I look forward to meeting you at the next Greater Pittsburgh Mudstock so we can sit at the table and rage in our financial analysis! That is, if any of us have any money three weeks from now. Maybe enough for a hot dog and a glass of water if something explodes.
I found this guy on YouTube. I think his awakening to what this is all about pretty much mirrors everyone here so it is honest, compelling, and very much worth watching. The child playing in the background noise is a very nice innocent touch and puts this all into perspective. The people that did this have sold out EVERY family in the United States. When will the American people FINALLY get up off their knees? When is enough is enough?
Forget “Joe The Plumber”. Joe The Plumber will be toast. Enter “Joe The Citizen Economist”. That is what we need now. All of us have to get up to speed on this very fast. We have to understand this as, hopefully, there will be a new President of the United States very, very soon just in the nick of time.
Obama speaking live from NM on CNN shortly…
SMR—-
I love your “quick course” on the TC. It’s easy to see the love/hate relationship now. And Bible Spice ( I like that as well as SWWNBN 😉 ) would be so quick to do the easy give away even if it is the ultimate sell out, wouldn’t she?
It’s nice to know you are here as our very own energy expert…way better than the one we’ve been offered!
Please tune in to Comedy Central for Chocolate News with
David Allen Greer. It is hilarious.
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:00:34) :
WV Democrat (18:21:21) :
This American Life with Ira Glass had a fantastic show a few week’s ago describing the bailout & credit crisis. It was the best information I have received on the subject. It’s called The Giant Pool of Money. I’ll try to post link:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Search.aspx?searchFor=credit%20crisis
SMR – I suffer from the same affliction affecting many of the mudflatters (in particular Crust Scramble): the curiousity of an “informatin junkie” and a desire to get the real scoop. I probably speak for most folks on here when I ask you to accept my gratitude for your many informative posts. Without folks like you on here, many of us would be where Sarah Palin and the mccainiacs have tried to put us: in the dark.
So, thank you for all your highly informative posts.
South Side Chicago – might be off topic by the time it’s posted – sorry!
As human beings it is important to ‘speak truth to power’ in a way that speaks to Americans and others who profess Christianity. John 3:16 (for the followers of Christ among us) states it best for Christians of all stripes (denominations). We were not meant to be or become a theocracy! Sarah, go somewhere and sit down. Now. Also.
The book ‘Deer Hunting With Jesus’ by Joe Bageant makes excellent observations specifically for Christians who cling to un-Christlike biases that divide this democratic republic based on race and class. Because Christians are New Testament followers of Jesus Christ, it is imperative for those who claim Jesus to be very careful about espousing rhetoric that is divisive, hateful, and demonizing ‘in the name of Jesus.’
Jesus, of course was not a Christian, he was a Jew who paved the way for less judgmental and more inclusive worship of God. It is important to know the history and cultural context recorded in the Old and New Testaments for mildly intellectual Christians. We should however to base how we treat others from a New Testament perspective–treat others the way we want to be treated! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!
Please read the Huffington Post article by Robert S. McElvaine (you may have to cut and paste is the ‘click on’ doesn’t work:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-s-mcelvaine/unbuckling-the-bible-belt_b_137782.html
Thanks Mudflatters for providing a breathing space during these turbulent and exhilirating times!
Regarding Anne Pressley;
So, so sad.
I’m in the Little Rock area and, as you can imagine, everyone is very disturbed by this.
Local news is just now giving an update report. They still think it was probably a random attack. It was very brutal.
Obama now speaking from New Mexico live on CNN.
Forgive last post. Show started as political then changed. Have no
idea why I posted it anyhow. Must get some sleep. Will go to bed
after SNL. G’nite all.
@ HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:00:34) :
WV Democrat (18:21:21) :
You are 100% correct. For further links see my discussion thread on Are We Buying Mortgages Or Are We Buying Derivatives ? in the Forum.
But there is one more point you didn’t mention.
Get this twist! You didn’t even have to actually own the loan asset to insure it! You could bet on other people’s loans failing and collect the insurance on their loan too! Then you could even trade these pieces of paper too with other people as the odds went up and down that the original loan would fail! The original loan is often a bond issue on corporate debt. If one big corporation defaults on a huge issue of corporate debt AT ANY TIME NOW it could trigger a huge insurance “pay up now chain reaction margin call” WORLD WIDE wide taking down bank after bank, hedge fund after hedge fund, insurance company after insurance company and ENTIRE NATIONAL ECONOMIES! Do you understand that the people trying to deal with this are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED no matter what you hear on the MSM! No one knows for sure what to do. We have never faced anything like this in the history of the world. All on GWB’s Harvard MBA watch!
So now we have invented something being called “Save Your Corporate Ass Now Just In Time Regulated Capitalism” (SYCANJITRC) Reagan Republicans are now partially nationalizing banks they are so scared shitless!
See my post today in the Mudflats Forum on last weeks case with the Lehman Brothers CDS settlement on Thursday.
I look forward to meeting you at the next Greater Pittsburgh Mudstock so we can sit at the table and rage in our financial analysis! That is, if any of us have any money three weeks from now. Maybe enough for a hot dog and a glass of water if something explodes.
I found this guy on YouTube. I think his awakening to what this is all about pretty much mirrors everyone here so it is honest, compelling, and very much worth watching. The child playing in the background noise is a very nice innocent touch and puts this all into perspective. The people that did this have sold out EVERY family in the United States. When will the American people FINALLY get up off their knees? When is enough is enough?
Forget “Joe The Plumber”. Joe The Plumber will be toast. Enter “Joe The Citizen Economist”. That is what we need now. All of us have to get up to speed on this very fast. We have to understand this as, hopefully, there will be a new President of the United States very, very soon just in the nick of time.
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Yes, I know about your “twist” and was going to add an analogy like “falling like dominoes” but then I noticed how long winded I had gotten and quit typing. Didn’t know if anyone would understand what I had been saying anyway. I work with people with bad or no credit (community organizer type) and help them clean up their credit reports, fight off collection agencies and debt buyers in court and out. It’s getting pretty bad out there. People are needing excellent credit to buy a house or car and I just don’t know how folks are going to be able to heat their house this winter. I put in more insulation in the basement this morning as Mountaineer Gas just got a 30% rate increase and is asking for 40% more.
It will be good to meet like-minded people. Hope to be able to get up there for the next get-together.
sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy (19:06:08) :
You’re right. I’m so grateful for AKM and all the mudpuppies who feed my addiction so willingly.
dowl (19:07:09) :
If Christians would just condense the Bible to Jesus’ two commandments…
‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
There would be no problems.
Am I 297TH? Do I have the 297th post tonight?
Yes, yes, yes! 297th!!!
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:28:50) :
Am I 297TH? Do I have the 297th post tonight?
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Apparently so. What do you have to add to this discussion?
SNL on
“Jack Murtha” & “Biden” skit
Crusty,
SNL ripping on Western, PA. right now, …wrongfully I might add. What do they think we are? Georgia?
@ Blue in MT (19:05:32) :
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:00:34) :
This American Life with Ira Glass had a fantastic show a few week’s ago describing the bailout & credit crisis. It was the best information I have received on the subject. It’s called The Giant Pool of Money. I’ll try to post link:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Search.aspx?searchFor=credit%20crisis
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Yes, thanks. I read that a few weeks ago. My tax attorney buddy is an avid NPR listener in Florida and told me about it. Good info to put out there as it is a must read for everyone.
Hey, Preacher Aussie Puck Mule, I wanna join the Church of Puck Mule, too. The problem is, i don’t drink wine or beer (allergic, so I’ll bring the rum); I don’t listen to rock and roll (folk and indie stuff like The Waifs! You should know them), but I will bring chocolate and pie. I am definitely for Social Justice. My name will be Sister Please, and I will add racial (Taiwaneses) and sexual (bi) diversity to the congregation.
I bought a rhubarb custard pie today (thanks, guys, for all the talk about pie), and it’s out of this world gooooooood. I’ll bring some to church.
As for our Joe, Joe the Senator, a study has been released that says he’s been a major asset despite his so-called gaffes. He can reach people who are more leery of Obama, and he’s really down-to-earth. I think it’s one reason his so-called gaffes don’t bother me: he either is taken out of context or he apologizes profusely after saying something stupid. He doesn’t obfuscate or unleash a deluge of colliding words–he just apologizes.
I am proud to be a Biden Babe, and I support our Joe.
As for Palin, she damn well better not drop the puck for a Wild! game, or I will kick her little be-hind back to Wasilia. You betcha. Also.
P.S. Sistah Preachah Aussie Puck Mule, I am agnostic/deist. Can I still be a member of the Church of Puck Mule?
Barack Obama and Bill Clinton will both be here together Monday, just five miles from my house. Hillary and Palin were both here yesterday. McCain was here last week.
They have practically stopped running any TV shows on local television here. Just non stop political commercials from both sides.
Very sorry to hear about Anne Pressley. I have been out for a few hours–attending an elitist event: production of “Othello” Shakespeare in the Park–and behind on all manner of news.
Went to see “W” this morning. It was interesting. Sometimes funny, sometimes creepy. Unfortunately, probably very realistic. One serious omission, though: no Lee Atwater. Don’t know if that was artistic license, not wanting another character in the mix, not wanting to deal with his death or WHAT. I suppose it wouldn’t even be noticed by most people but he was probably the most important person in the Republican party for the 10 years that he ruled their operations–HE ran Poppy’s 1988 campaign, not W. and he was Karl Rove’s (evil) mentor; Rove was basically just a go-fer until Atwater died.
OK, off my soapbox.
I just worry about that old thing about forgetting the past. Atwater is someone who should NEVER be forgotten (whether he should ever be forgiven is another story)
Fem of Tiawan- I have never heard of rhubarb custard pie. Where can I get the receipe?
HamletsMill, are you going to see Bill & Barack tomorrow?
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:54:35) :
HamletsMill, are you going to see Bill & Barack tomorrow?
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Is it tomorrow Sunday or Monday?
My error. I keep thinking it is Sunday (actually it turned Sunday here7 minutes ago) Bill & Barack will be at Mellon Arena. Monday. Doors open at 3
Gosh, there is a new thread up, with over 100 comments already.
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (20:14:26) :
Thanks for the info!
Please, Alaska, dump this ridiculous woman upon her return from the national spotlight. I shudder to think of having to hear from her over the next four years, but I also kind of relish the idea of her being destroyed by her own party in a 2012 primary. Ugh.
found on the web.. remember these photos???
Trig and family.
“”http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddxfxrr8_7fxfr6tfj
wonder what Cajunblogger will reveal
The rally flag picture is up on ADN
http://www.adn.com/election/story/567963.html
just heard mccain saying about if obama gets in it will be all democrats in house and senate and to look out. am i not right that in 6 out of the last 8 years it has been republicain?? and look where that has gotten us. we can only do better.