Here are the headlines right now on the Anchorage Daily News website: (God, I love Alaska)
- Bristol Palin’s Boyfriend Heads to Convention
- FBI taped more than 100 Stevens Calls (Indicted Senator Ted Stevens that is)
- Palin Leaps to National Stage and Ever-Increasing Scrutiny
- Electronic Scarecrows Haze Ravens from Utility Equipment (Hey…it’s news.)
Yes, that first headline is right, apparently. It took me a while to get my palms off my face so I could check it out, but it’s true. I know we’re not supposed to interfere with the personal lives of candidates’ children. I know that many people, including myself, feel sorry for Bristol and the fact that she was hurled out in front of the nation with nothing to cover her secret expanding midsection except a baby and a giant blanket. I even heard Barack Obama ask us all to drop it. But, inviting the boyfriend to come to the convention in the middle of all this? Who has brought this, and him, right into the most glaring of bright lights, in front of the hugest of audiences? How to create a distracting, embarrassing spectacle with one plane ticket. The mind reels….I think. It’s been reeling since Friday, so it’s hard to tell any more.
And for those of you who have wondered what you’ll do with yourselves when the Palin fiasco is over (and there are more and more media outlets speculating that it will be long before November), take heart. Read that second headline up at the top of the page. Ted Stevens will be the methedone for your Palin addiction. Trust me.
Mudflats 
I do.
Trust you.
New wrinkle from TPM Muckraker:
Palin’s Lobbyist Has Abramoff Ties
By Kate Klonick and Zachary Roth – September 2, 2008, 1:01PM
It looks like Sarah Palin’s claim to represent a cleaner brand of politics could be about to take a bruising.
The Washington Post reports today that, while Mayor of Wasilla, Palin oversaw the hiring of a lobbyist, Steven Silver — a former chief of staff to now-indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens — to help win federal earmarks for the city.
But Silver appears to have additional ties that could further undercut Palin’s image as a squeaky-clean reformer. According to Senate lobbying disclosure reports examined by TPMmuckraker, from 2002 to 2004 Silver listed as a client Jack Abramoff’s lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig. On Greenberg’s behalf, Silver lobbied the federal government on “issues relating to Indian/Native American policy,” “exploration for oil and gas” and “legislation relating to gaming issues” — the very issues that Abramoff headed up for Greenberg at the time. In other words, Silver appears to have been a part of “Team Abramoff.”
Indeed, one specific bill that Silver lobbied on for Greenberg, according to the forms, was S.627, also known as the Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Act. A former Greenberg lobbyist confirmed to TPMmuckraker that Silver would have been working to oppose the bill. And it was an earlier version of this very bill that Abramoff famously worked to spike, with the support of Christian conservative leaders Lou Sheldon and Ralph Reed.
There’s additional evidence of ties between Silver and Abramoff. Emails released by a House committee in 2006 as part of a probe of Abramoff show the now-disgraced lobbyist scheduling a meeting with Silver in 2001.
Silver is a member of the Anchorage-based law firm of Robertson, Monacle, and Eastaugh, which the Post describes as having “close ties” to Stevens, and Alaska Congressman Don Young, who’s under federal investigation for allegedly taking bribes. Since 2005, Silver has contributed $3500 each to Stevens and Young, according to campaign contributions records posted at CampaignMoney.com.
This is far from the first time that Abramoff’s trail of corruption has led to Alaska. Last year, Mark Zachares, a former aide to Young, pleaded guilty to accepting tens of thousands of dollars in gifts from Abramoff in return for using his position to advance Abramoff’s goals.
Silver did not immediately return a call requesting comment.
First, I want to join in with all the others, and congratulate you. The site is beats everything else out there. Thank you.
Everyone feels for the kids involved in this, but now it looks like the progressives more than the Republicans, and I can’t understand how Gov. Palin could do this to them.
At this point, I only have one thought left, looping around in my head with each new revelation. Somebody must call Child Protective Services.
Does CPS have a program equivalent to the witness protection program? Because Bristol qualifies, in my opinion. I’m happy to pay extra taxes for her new identity.
They JUST begged for privacy for the kids… and now are bringing the self described “F…ing redneck” down to the national convention?!?!?!?!
What ARE these people thinking?!
This US magazine story may have been posted earlier, but it seems that Palin is being trashed on the checkout magazine stand already. This is so over…
http://www.usmagazine.com/sarah-palin-very-difficult-to-work-with
Personally, if I requested everyone to “lay off my family”…then logic would indicate that I would not bring them into the circus atmosphere of a major political party campaign. This does not appear to be wise judgement…not in the least!
It makes me want to yell “QUICK! Someone…get the net”
Michelle
He’s “not in school” She presumably didn’t graduate either. How is this lovely couple going to support themselves and a new baby? Didn’t his MySpace page say he didn’t want kids?
NIce.
You rock. I have sent so many people here for a dose of sanity and fast news, lol.
Obama/Biden 08/12
What the hell are they thinking? Whose bright idea was it to bring the redenck? While I’m enjoying seeing the republican party implode, it’s sad that it’s taking others down with them.
Here’s what I think, of course I’m loopy from watching the convention, but I think aside from the obvious political shennanigan, they want to get this young man where they can keep an eye on him. Nothing like a little 2nd hand secret service protection to keep the National Enquirer and there offers of $ at bay.
It will be interesting to see how soon he heads back to Alaska.
[…] Electronic Scarecrows Haze Ravens from Utility Equipment (Heyits news.) Yes, that first headline is right, apparently. It took me a while to get my palms off my face so I could check it out, but its true. I know were not supposed to interfere with the personal lives of candidates children. I know that many people, including myself, feel sorry for Bristol and the fact that she was hurled out in front of the nation with nothing to cover her clandestine expanding midsection except a baby and a giant white blanket. I even heard Barack Obama ask us all to drop it. But, inviting the boyfriend to come to the convention in the middle of all this? Who has brought this, and him, right into the most glaring of bright lights, in front of a huge international audience? Not Barack Obama, or the Democrats, or the evil left-wing bloggers. This is a lesson in how to create a distracting, embarrassing spectacle with one simple plane ticket. The mind reels.I think. Its been reeling since Friday, so its hard to tell any more. And for those of you who have wondered what youll do with yourselves when the Palin fiasco is over (and there are more and more media outlets speculating that it will be long before November), take heart. Read that second headline up at the top of the page. Ted Stevens will be the methedone for your Palin addiction. Trust me. Palin’s Future Son-in-Law Heads to GOP Convention? Mudflats […]
Here’s something else you’ll enjoy that came from a friend of mine who found it in a chat room:
Friday, August 29, 2008
Sarah $(*)*% Palin – or – A Short Rant from Norway
Posted by Goofus at 12:56 PM
You guys are lucky. Maybe you know this, maybe you don’t – but I come from
a little town called Wasilla , Alaska . Population 8000 (it’s grown in recent
years, it was closer to 5000 for much of my time there). One high school,
one middle school, both bearing the name of the town.
This is where our next vice president is from, unless America makes me
proud.
Sarah Palin went to my high school – I shared some teachers with her, who
confided in me that she used to be a big pothead. Then Sarah Palin became
mayor of my town, elected largely by a movement of her church. Sarah Palin
came and watched me sing at park dedications, and held out her arms and
swayed back and forth while I sang “Amazing Grace,” because she was filled
with the love of JAYYYYYSUUUUUS. Sarah Palin fired my favorite (and
Wasilla’s favorite) librarian because she disliked her liberal leanings (aka
willingness to stock books that discuss evolution).
Sarah Palin is a moron. Sarah Palin is completely unethical and open to
abusing power. Sarah Palin is radically anti-feminist (don’t let her glasses
fool you!). Sarah Palin is totally inexperienced – she actually hired
someone to run our town for her while she was mayor. Sarah Palin has tried
to fire state employees for personal reasons (ie, her ex-brother-in-law).
Sarah Palin can’t stand scientists, whether they are trying to protect polar
bears or spreading the ridiculous notion that the world is more than 4000
years old.
I really hope that the second-wave women, who worked so hard, and are
tired, and angry for the opportunities that have been lost – are too smart
for this condescending, nasty trick. I know that we want to see a women
president in our lifetime – but if it’s Sarah Palin ….
Sarah Palin as the first female VP…
…is like if Phyllis Schlafly were given the Nobel Peace Prize
…is like giving control of the FCC to the Pussycat Dolls
…is like if Kristen “Kiwi” Smith won 10 Oscars for her masterpiece, “The
House Bunny”
Seems like a milestone, but it’s a TREMENDOUS step backward.
Levi Johnston is supposed to be 20 so he isn’t a child. There is that little statutory rape thing, though. If you got convicted of that, you would be officially branded a sex offender for life in a lot of places.
I imagine they won’t be bringing that up in St. Paul, though.
They might get Levi a job as a page in Congress, or a lobbyist internship. However, considering the family history it might be wise to keep him away from anything connected with tasers.
Something with the Bristol chronology is still not right. Can anyone point me to a source/story that discusses when she was out of school for “mono” versus transferring schools to be with her mom? Just how long has she been out of school? If she’s just 5 months pregnant….
Also, can anyone elaborate on this mention in the NYTimes:
Family friends said the couple has had some discipline problems with Track, who recently joined the Army. “Track was a big hockey star, and when you’re a jock in high school there’s a certain amount of ego and problems that goes with that,” Mrs. Kincaid said.
Sorry, but if you trot your kids out there and make them central to your narrative, central to your credentials (“I’m a PTA, hockey mom!”), folks gotta right to ask.
kimbers (20:11:36)
I think you have a very valid point there Kimbers. Keep an eye on the wayward lad and keep him away from the media.
They also want to show that the soon to be ‘new son-in-law’ is there with the baby’s mama. All ‘show’ and no substance is what their campaign is about. And it’s finally back firing on them.
Of course the crowd at the convention will stand and cheer for the young
parents to be. Now just imagine if it was Barack Obama’s daughter, 17,
unmarried and preggers…..
Ya gotta love the blogs. The authors and the people who comment on their sites come up with some real beauties. Here’s one from Daily Kos….
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“Which is worse?”
a) That McCain and his team probably didn’t vet Sarah Palin?
(b) That they DID vet Gov. Palin (as they claim) and yet he still picked her?
You just can’t make this shit up. I feel like I am addicted to this stuff. I refuse to watch the RNC and listen to their lies. This is way more fun.
What really wrecks me about Bristol’s baby is that Palin said that she told her children about the VP on the day of the announcement. She had told her kids before that they were going to Ohio to celebrate Sarah and Todd’s anniversary. Imagine the shock and fright Bristol must have had when she realised that her pregnancy was all of a sudden going to be plastered over every magazine in America. Look at the pics from last Friday with Bristol holding baby Trig. Look at the fright in her eyes.
[…] http://www.mudflats.wordpress.com […]
I’ll keep saying this until they release the records – Trig is either Track’s baby or Bristol’s. I have seen tons of pics of Sarah and she no looks pregnant. Her breasts aren’t big – and haven’t increased in any pics I’ve seen. And her face isn’t chubby or the like. Her daughter, however, looks the part – but I do believe she’s either pregnant or had the baby and still has baby fat she needs to work off.
Either way, Hayseed to the big city will be one for the history books. Pass me the popcorn to witness this drama.
Get some ads on this site. I (and I’m sure 50 billion other people) can’t stop reading your fantastic blog! You might need the income for the extra servers 🙂
As for taking Baby Daddy to the convention, that jives totally with the Family Values train…and with this report in the Nat’l Enquirer that Ma Palin’s original plan was for Bristol and Levi to quickly, quietly marry right after the convention. The media frenzy and Bristol’s teenage ways seem to have wrecked that…temporarily:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sarah_palin_at_war_with_her_daughter_over_pregnancy_wedding/celebrity/65370
As a mother and middle school counselor, I am sickened by the obvious exploitation of Bristol to drive home family values/anti-abortion rhetoric.
This has played out in the news in ways (predictable and unavoidable) that will only shame Bristol. I don’t know what kind of woman would do that to her child. From what I am learning, she was never an on the job mother.
I am a working mother myself. I know it’s hard to cover the bases. But it seems that these kids were missing something….when do the “home” life stories come out?
Isn’t this better than those old Soap Operas like General Hospital? Instead of ancient Dr. Hardy, we have McCain. Instead of Nurse Jesse we have Palin. And instead of Luke and Laura, we have Bristol and her boyfriend!!!
Tonight the RNC was like a Gathering of Old Men in need of face lifts. Jeff Toobin on CNN finally called it like it was and wondered where all the kids are. I guess Palin is bringing all of them with her, like a fertility goddess.
Anyway, the only people I trust anymore are Obama, Biden, Keith Olbermann, and Mudflats Blogger! Keep on Keepin’ On!
This could have been SOOO much easier for Bristol, for Levi, for the family….and for AMERICA to stomach….if in doing the intro, Levi was there and he was introduced THEN as Bristols fiance and father of their grandbaby! SIMPLE for us who are not all hung up on the sex education thing! The way it was rolled out certainly LOOKS like it was not MEANT to come out till AFTERWARDS if anyone even KNEW!!!
Poor, poor Bristol.
I don’t think her mother asked her. I think of my own mother when I think of Bristol now.
If I had been so unfortunate as to not have had access to birth control and sex ed… And I ended up pregnant… My mom would have dropped everything possible to be by my side. Especially if I was 17. (I’m actually in my twenties, so this is indeed hypothetical.) I could never imagine my mother deciding to accept a veep nod if I were in such a state. My dad is involved in my life too. My parents are still married and both care for me very much. They are a partnership, so I’m not saying that since my mom is a woman she would automatically stay home for me. I’m saying that my mom versus Palin would do a lot better job of thinking of me.
Poor Bristol.
I have a feeling the GOP is going to give a hero’s welcome to Bristol’s boyfriend at their convention. They will spotlight him as a decent and responsible young man who is doing the right thing and marrying the 17-year old whose forthcoming child he fathered. And between the lines the message will be that a young black man wouldn’t have the character and integrity to do the same.
Cynical? You Betcha. I’ve been paying attention for the last eight years….
Today has been fun, weirder than I ever thought weird could be, informative,
appalling, and exhausting. My obsessive-compulsiveness has kicked into high gear and nothing else got done here in my little office in North Carolina. My challenge tomorrow is to work first and surf later. I love your work MudFlats and between you and HuffPo’s bloggers, it’s been impossible to tear myself away form the puter.
Regarding Levi being hijacked to the Twin Cities: It’s leaving me speechless and
falls into the appalling category noted above. One of the commenters mentioned Child Protective Services and it’s a valid comment. Bristol Palin is no doubt living under her mother’s rigid control. She has already caused her (Sarah)embarrassment (although Sarah brought it on herself) and it could quite possibly be the first of the ‘scandals’ that forces Sarah Palin to bow out of the race. So aside from now having to live with the fact that her pregnancy was outed to the entire world on television she is going to have to bear some unjust form of guilt when Mommy Dearest looses her ‘big chance’ at fame and power. I’d like to be a fly on the wall at their home next month. Or maybe not because it will be heartbreaking and I’d be powerless to help this child….
So when they march that girl and her boyfriend onstage to make the impression of a big happy family I’ll whisper a little prayer for her…..
Here is another great piece from Huffpost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/media-new-and-old-vet-pal_n_123363.html
No way! The boy’s going to the convention. Unbelievable. It’s a regular Palin Place. Did anyone notice how unhappy the two teenage girls looked last Friday when they were first introduced. I also noticed the husband swallowing hard, like he was scared stiff. Despite the suit, he looked very unsophisticated, and Palin, well, do you think she might have some Mary Kay to sell us. Sorry Alaskans, tell us you’ve got better than this!
Stop this Bev Hills 90192 nonsense….this is a major national game. Don’t give them anymore “left wing gossip girl” ammo! Serious shit is at stake. Mudflat…deo something about this. I lived in Seward for years and I know how much fun it is to get all excited about local scandal like we are all still in high school…well the stakes are, as was saying, bigger than that. Outsiders are reading this.
plwalsh, and anyone interested in Abramoff’s other ties to corrupt Alaskan politicians,
Check out this great website http://www.dropdon.com which has an interactive “web of corruption” on the front page, linking it all to Alaska Congressman Don Young.
Did anyone notice that Sarah barely picked up Trig during the announcement or her husband? THat seemed really weird to me that throughout the entire announcement, she is pushing forward the youngest daughter, but never calls for her son. And why wasn’t the FATHER TODD holding the baby? Why is Bristol holding the baby the entire time. And during their next campaign stop, why was Bristol back in the tour bus with the baby instead of TODD. If Sarah and Todd are indeed the parents and if he will be the one caring for the kids while Sarah is off playing VP, why isn’t he doing so now. Again, I don’t believe that is her baby. I have a child and I cannot see myself making the decisions that she is making. She truly is not putting her family first.
someone above asked how the soon to be newly weds are going to support themselves.
here’s the answer
if you people do not get out there and spread this site around so that the rest of the people in the country figure out what is going on the newly weds are going to be supported by you. they will be living at the white house with uncle johnny and aunty cin.
get the picture?
and where are your children going to be?
yes, doing the ‘work of god’ as prescribed by your elected leaders.
fighting ‘the enemy’ who are fighting for what?
yes, now you see it. ‘the enemy’ is also ‘doing the work of god’
same work different version of the tooth fairy story.
copy paste copy paste copy paste.
AKMuckracker is doing every one of us with children the most amazingly graceful favor that could possibly be done so let’s be equally gracious and get the word out.
The probability that this woman will step out or be pushed out is low but the possibility that you can make a difference so that she does not get
the chance to send your children to their certain death is high.
Just to it. put links to this site in ten places every day for the next ten days.
make the internet work as it was designed to work. to connect sane and rational thinkers with sane and rational thinking. and to get enough of that out there so that it starts to overwhelm the un-sane and irrational non thinkers.
MSM finally bites back and McCain acts like a spoiled kid.
John McCain cancelled an interview with Larry King this evening citing that a segment last nigh,t with Campbell Brown and McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds, was “over the line”
It’s about time the MSM takes a stand and when they do McShame doesn’t like it.
Here is the link: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/mccain_cancels_cnn_interview_a.php
Great Blog. You’re doing important work.
I’ll return here to watch the spectacle, this slow motion train wreck, and admire your wit and analysis.
Muckraker,
You need to direct this line of gossip crap or this very pontentially valuable blog from the Great Land will become a mere drama site. You will need to check/post this stuff more often as you are world wide now….people are coming here to be informed from a local perspective and this teenage bullshit is as embarassing as Ms. Palins actions
How is the media and the Obama camp letting the McLame gt away with this. I am insulted by this fiasco. This went from a coverup to an engagement in 5 days.
With all the people on the ground in Alaska why is nothing sticking to this woman. Chris Matthews of MSNBC said tonight that so far she have come out of this unscathed. If this was BO he would be pressured to step down already.
This an amazing site — what should we call you? Just Mudflats? Please respond. Many thanks, Christine.
To “in a valley further south” – How right you are! I myself have done little for the past 4 days except try to keep up with events related to this story, somehow stay sane while puzzling out the twists and turns, and figure out ways to write and comment – so as to accomplish the very thing you are urging.
For the good of the entire world – we must leave no stone unturned until we can put behind us this Trophy Vice (sorry to return her to you folks up north!) and the unhinged man who believes she’s his “soul mate.”
No Drama Obama…. what a comforting thought – on so many levels.
AKMuckraker – kudos and a gold medal!
I want to trust you so bad..nothing scares me more then a McCain/Palin ticket
Somebody please open this up…
“With all the people on the ground in Alaska why is nothing sticking to this woman. Chris Matthews of MSNBC said tonight that so far she have come out of this unscathed.”
I’m sure that within the convention nothing is sticking. Outside? Everything is sticking. Check out US magazine:
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/sarah-palin-very-difficult-to-work-with
The White Trashing of America
Hellavajewel – it’s insulting all right. So much of it! My guess is that serious money was mobilized to convince this young man – who has stated on his myspace page that he “doesn’t want kids” – to step up to the plate anyway.
But why they are making a spectacle of Bristol this way beyond any spiritual or mental health guidance anyone could devise! This is naked advertising (and thus abuse) of an unborn child (and her teenage mother) for the purpose of appearing saintly (somehow) – in hopes of salvaging a rapidly sinking campaign.
The poor 17 year old kid can’t even go through the ordeal with a tranquilizer because she’s pregnant! Is John McCain, who himself was tortured, turning into a torturer himself now? By parading this poor prisoner in front of tv and millions of viewers – to record it all for her endless shame?
“introducing Sarah Palin” video now up on the McCain campaign site. Just soundbites of her speech when McCain introduced her and pull quotes from a couple of newspapers the day of the announcement stating she is a “maverick governer”. Blah blah. Fun Bonus -they use Hilary Clinton’s quote from the day of the announcement! They’re going through with this thing it appears.
I’m just saddened that an extreme right religious woman has been picked as the GOP VP. “Creationism” still at the helm – President Bush probably believes it too. But Palin seems more strident in her medieval views, inculding disbelief in global climate change. Which reminds me, how could McCain vet her if he says he wants to do what he can to fight climate change?
If this ticket wins, the World will think America is filled with morons.
I don’t have anything against Mrs. Palin personally, I just hate her beliefs, what she stands for…and if they win, she will be so visible, being photogentic and young.
Hey take it easy on Levi. He’s going to the convention to interview for the job of Secretary of Health and Human Services.
leave the kids out….wait, so why is the sperm donor being flown to the convention….to join the other rednecks?
tuesday,
I can’t advertise on this version of WordPress… Thanks for the suggestion, though.
AKM
One of my favorite people on earth wants me to read Mark Levin and to study the fox webpage. Mark Levin has Jerome Corsi as required reading. They also read Ann Coulter and thinks that she has been ‘taken out of context’.
And this person seems convinced that because I am young I must be brainwashed into the cult of Obamaism.
*sigh* We are on completely different sides of the fence. I gave them the link to this site and after visiting, the word ‘lies’ was used.
I’m going to have to ban all discussions of politics between us. I don’t think we can manage a civil debate much longer. And I can’t *believe* that after saying I support Obama that this person would send me to Fox and Levin! That’s like sending a Jew to a Catholic Church during the Spanish Inquisition!
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Mudflats, thank you for being so thorough with your investigations and your links for your sources. You’re helping me not pull out my newly shorn hair right now.
National Inquirer is stating they had plans to secretly marry Bristol immediately after the convention before the public found out she was pregnant.
Maybe this is actually true?
Groundhoglady:
Chris Matthews, while sometimes amusing, is so far removed from reality he actually believed fairly recently that he could run for public office and be an asset to the nation.
Muddy, sweetheart, booby, keep it coming. Without you bloggers, necessary evil that you are, the MSM would have tried to extend this race for ratings and none of this would have seen the light of day. Like lawyers, we hate may hate some of the things your community does, but we do really need your services.
Jesus, this drama just won’t stop not going away! You’re so right Muckraker, ya blink and ya might miss the latest. Alas, we have you and your humor to keep it all straight for us. And yes, been checking out your buddies up there too. You are an intelligent group. Thanks LOTS from the SF Bay Area.
This whole Palin clan seems to be bent in some odd controlling manner. But as you pointed out senor mudflats, it’s McClown’s DECISION MAKING PROCESS that is the true issue. And that is why this whole drag everyone with us down show is pure vomit material.
eberit (20:00:35)
“Outsiders are reading this.”
Sorry, e, she’s not running for VP of Alaska. Us Outsiders have a right to examine and discuss her judgment, common sense, and fitness for office.
AKMuckraker, I think I just plain love you. I wound up at your blog from a link from a link from a link, and I find your it hilarious, and terrifying, and the most coherent discussion of Sarah Palin I’ve come across.
WTF could McCain have been THINKING about? Swear by the gods, I want that man tested for dementia. He’s not living on the earth-plane level of reality.
After having been “addicted” to getting any news about this “unknown” thrown into the spotlight, and carefully trying to look at the “big” picture and what is coming across MSM, I think the bottom line here is that we have to keep our eye on the “prize” and not on this unknown. The Rove machine has been ingenious in detouring American voters and to some extent us “angry liberals” from the real issues. While watching a Sarah Palin interview tonight, it suddenly struck me what the game plan is. Here is a “spunky”, attractive woman, with fundamentalist beliefs, questionable “vetting”, but true conservative, just ripe for the plucking of the Rove machine. The vetting was not vetting as we are accustomed to, but Rove vetting implies how quickly she can be molded to “spin”. The interview I watched included questions about her ethics investigation and the firing. She answered, almost VERBATUM as Gonzalez when questioned about firings at Dept of Justice…ie. “it is “at-will” position which she is at liberty to do to take the dept. in a new direction!” That response has ROVE written all over it! She has willingly become the “spin” in this campaign, so the republicans can once again accuse the DEMS of smear, and inexperience, etc. etc. In saying all that, the “eye on the prize” is to continue to fight for change this without being dragged down to ROVE’S (or Palin”s) level of politics. Tricky…but I trust that truth will win in this fight.
I actually think McCain was being shrewd. The women is sexy in a wholesome way, dynamic. On top of that, she will bring in the hordes of Jesus Camp fanatics to the polling booths.
If they are elected, I will be sad for my country! I’m the polar opposite of her philosophy. And she is so unsophisticated, never traveled outside the US except her troop trip. The world will look down on her. I know remarkable Alaskans and she is not my cup of tea.
Any Hillary admirers surely would not like what Sarah Palin stands for.
The seemingly random Republican roundabouts are making me dizzy.
I actually laughed out loud when McCain’s main vetter seemed unsure when asked if Palin had any more scandals yet to come. They haven’t a freaking clue. I’m almost finding myself wondering if Palin was a bit manipulative and shady with her answers to the day before vetting committee. Seems like a perfect match if so.
You think the campaign control team have bought up the entire inventory of “Valley Trash” t-shirts and burned them yet? They may be collectors items now.
It’s fairly obvious that “Baby Daddy” is going to be on a short leash so that everything that he says or does is closely monitored and scripted by the thugs to keep him away from the media circus. How sad for him to be robbed of his youth like this….so now Sarah Palin has another victim of her reckless ambition. He’s only 18 and his life is basically over. Sure he’ll travel, hang out with big money people and all, but he is through now, unless the ticket fails. Then maybe you could help him write a book!!!
I remember coming back from a 6AM class on Friday hearing about the Palin selection so I went to the wiki page. I wish I captured it because as I was reading it I got a 404 error, refreshed it and it was scrubbed. In front of my eyes. I stayed one step ahead of the censors on the myspace pages and the photos of the governor that have since been removed. Then I did the obligatory google and stumbled upon this gem of a blog and have read every word since. Thanks!
Is it true that Palin’s mother in law ran for Wasilla mayor and Palin didn’t endorse her? Is there some conflict there?
Wow!!
Obama to Appear on Fox on Thursday Night
By Jeff Zeleny
CHICAGO — Before Senator John McCain delivers his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention on Thursday, Senator Barack Obama will make a marquee appearance of his own.
Call it counter-intuitive. He will appear on “The O’Reilly Factor” on Fox News Channel.
For Mr. Obama, it will be the first time in his presidential candidacy that he’s on Bill O’Reilly’s prime-time program. The appearance is intended to put Mr. Obama before a conservative audience, one week after drawing 40 million TV viewers at his own acceptance speech.
Mr. Obama has had a strained history with the network, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Is this a sign of burying the hatchet or simply politically smart programming? Stay tuned
Strangelet,
You make my point, when I heard she was the nominee I was incredoulous, …I thought then that Alaskans have much to contribute to the American vetting of Ms. Palin. My point is to Alaskans who are not used to this scrutiny…let us not fall to the level of high school gossip and look at the serious transgressions that there are apparently numerous and let us become truthtellers. In this mode I must say that after 22 wonderful years as an Alaska resident I moved on to the “outside” in 06 to work with Organized Labor and still miss my home up North.
On CNN.com check out their list of top 10 most popular stories.
#1 Palin faces questions this month in ethics inquiry, says lawmaker
I can’t believe Sarah Palin didn’t anticipate this. People keep asking what McCain was thinking by asking her to be his running mate. I want to know what she was thinking.
With this news breaking about her daughter, the campaign to make Palin look like Super-Mom has fizzled. Now the truth is showing. Women can have as many babies as they want and hustle a “career.” But having a lot of babies and exercising good parenting skills are two different things.
If Sarah Palin were as honorable as her supporters would have had us believe, she would have put the emotions of her children first, shielded them from this type of public scrutiny. Religious-right leanings aside, the woman seems selfish to me!
The Obama campaign is doing the right thing and not touching this with a 100-foot pole. Obama laid down the law when he said candidates’ families are off-limits. If there is any hint that his campaign is talking about this stuff, the Republicans will unleash a firestorm. You know that they love to demonize Obama, and acknowledging Palin’s family drama would just give the Republicans an excuse to attack and garner sympathy for her. They are already playing the ‘sexism’ card, even though they fail to recognize that McCain’s very choice of Palin is inherently sexist.
The way Obama and Biden responded to Steve Kroft’s question on ’60 Minutes’ was just right: damn her with faint praise, never mention her by name if possible, and equate her with McCain’s agenda. There’s enough dirt out there about her actual performance as mayor and governor that will be fair game for the Obama team.
Corie said:
“They are already playing the ’sexism’ card, even though they fail to recognize that McCain’s very choice of Palin is inherently sexist.”
I couldn’t agree more. The Palin selection is an insult more than anything. Because she is a sexy woman, it’s the right-wing-conservative-politician of stooping to the “sex sells” level. I wonder how many Republican senators, congressman, governors feel shined privately over the selection.
You know what is the hardest part of this whole circus?
The whole damn world is watching!
(sorry, just had to get that out!)
Here is what they’re thinking; With Levi, they will show solidarity and Palin is going to give one heck of a speech. It’s likely to dazzle. Even if it doesn’t, they’ll pretend that it does. She’s going to have a lot of support tomorrow night and she may charm the pants off of people. Bob Herbert in the NYT has an excellent column about how Palin is a distraction and we should move back to issues.
Never have I listened to the local conservative Alaskan talk radio stations… that is until last Friday.
A ‘gentleman’ named Michael Savage this very night said some words everyone must read/hear tp believe:
http://tspey.wordpress.com/
Ya know,
Obama has two really cute, charming daughters. He has purposely kept them way in the background even though he could have used them to win votes. It would have worked with some people. He took the high road.
I’ll keep saying this until they release the records – Trig is either Track’s baby or Bristol’s.
If those are the choices, I’ll bet on Bristol. The reason? It is common knowledge that butt babies don’t live.
The Logician… That was out of line. Way out of line.
“Stupid is as stupid does.”
Although Katherine Kersten is a right wing hack, this story gives one Governor’s version of what happened in Dallas.
OK, I’m in for the long haul here. This is the most amazing site. I’ve been sending links here all day, so get ready for heavy traffic. Where do I send my donation? I want the women of the world to see your info…. I for sure don’t want this site to disappear like so many other sources I’ve seen go down in the last few hours. I don’t have much in the way of $$$ but I have fast fingers and know how to forward emails.
I haven’t sent any money to any other canidate, because I have yet to hear them say what I needed to hear, but I’ve seen enough here to want to support you and the work you’re doing to get the word out on how this poor woman and her family is being used by some pretty slick operators.
Do make a list of the e-addresses your getting, so you can let us help keep this site online. Just protect that list and don’t let it fall into the wrong hands. I’m so proud of you and all the women and men that have been posting here. We all owe you ….keep us up-to-date.
As to GJ …be careful…very,very careful. The world and the paid pushbackers are watching
the party bosses must be pissed.
yes, they’ll keep the hunky new hubby away from the enquirer, just people mag can have him.
we need to get the word out to dispel all this reformer stuff.
i am afraid they will prep her well for the speech, and matthews will gush all over himself. he did tonite, then noted they didnt even MENTION the last 8 years. oh yeah, its still all bill clinton’s fault.
LA,
That’s ‘First Dude’ to you… America, you can have her. More and more Alaskans are sick or down-right afraid if she returns empty handed. We are learning far more than our humble local media could have ever dredged-up. Have you seen her handle a gun? All Alaskans have and it scares the shot out of me. :oO
I think you should cool off a bit. The family didn’t want to disclose the pregnancy before the convention but were forced to. Naturally, once the bird is out, the new member of the family, Mr. Johnston, would join his future wife for the photo ops and other festivities and then the new family would fade in the background. What’s so scandalous here?
I think this woman’s family affairs are being unjustly and viciously picked apart here. Are Levi and Bristol good examples for American teenagers? Of course, not! But they are not running for office.
For eight years the hard-partying, binge-drinking Bush twins were largely left alone by the media and the public, why is everyone picking on Mrs Palin’s daughter? There is only one reason: she doesn’t pack the power, connections, pedigree and intimidation of the Bushes. It’s sad and pathetic.
Now, having said that, if the baby swap and fake belly stories prove to be correct, then all bets are off. But given the facts at hand, I don’t see a reason to make it such big deal that Levi Johnston is going to join the Palins at the convention.
Chill out and focus on the issues.
Interesting blog.
It appears Sarah Palin was not fully vetted when McCain announced her as VP.
From the antiwar blogs:
September 2, 2008 in News by Jim Lobe | 7 comments
MSNBC and the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA) are reporting that Gov. Palin met this afternoon with the board of directors of the America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and Sen. Joe Lieberman to, in the words of one McCain campaign official cited by MSNBC, put “the American Jewish community at ease over her understanding of US-Middle East relations.” It’s worth noting that Palin, who has obviously been completely off-limits to reporters since she was rolled out as McCain’s running-mate in Dayton Friday, stiffed a reception in her honor sponsored by none other than Phyllis Schlafly a couple hours later. (One wonders what other lobbies have tried to arrange a meeting with Palin in the last 96 hours and with what success.)
from kos:
knock, knock
Who’s there?
Juneau.
Juneau who?
Juneau McCain ain’t got a chance in hell now…
GJ sounds suspect….make a list of all the e addresses you are getting? Negro please!
american jews really don’t understand the endtimes stuff, they think sarah is pro-israel. they don’t understand that israel is the fruitbats salvational proving ground. they think its “support” and that’s all they hear from the dobsons, over and over.
the iran stuff in the dutch newspaper is really really scary. thanks for the post
From this article:
Q: I was just talking to someone who claimed to have knowledge of Alaska to some degree, and they say where Sarah Palin comes from it’s the equivalent of Humboldt or Chico in California, like, of course, you know, she’d have a Girls Gone Wild phase, and smoking pot. Is this just wishcasting, or what can you tell us about her geographical background?
A: So the Mat-Su Valley, you know, Matanuska-Susitna Valley, otherwise known as Upper Wingnuttia, is full of right-wing libertarian militia fundamendalist Christian gun-toting, pot-growing dope-heads.
From Planet Ocean:
Barracuda
Take one look at a great barracuda’s toothy grin and you’ll understand why it has earned the nickname “Tiger of the Sea.”
With its sleek, torpedo-like body, dagger-like teeth, and ferocious appetite, the barracuda is built to hunt in the ocean.
So, is the barracuda a cold-blooded killer? You betcha! A barracuda is a predator because it needs to eat to survive. And it’s cold-blooded because all fish are cold-blooded. They adapt to the temperature of the water surrounding them.
Barracudas Are Fishy!
If you think a barracuda is fishy looking, you’re right. It’s a fish. A barracuda shares several traits with most other fish, in addition to being cold-blooded. It is a vertebrate — it has a spine.It lays eggs rather than giving birth to live young. And, it swims by moving its fins (including its tail).
HMMM… “fishy”, “has a spine”, “swims by moving its tail”, and “adapts to the temperature around it”, & yes, eats its young.
New sub-specie: SarahBarracuda
Hi,
So I can’t get enough of this stuff…Having just come back from a six-month stint in Juneau, imagine my surprise when I found out one morning that Palin is McCain’s choice for VP. Heck, I was one up on many because I actually knew who she was. Now, I’m a Texan and a Democrat, but I try to make informed decisions about whomever I vote for. In my time in Alaska, Palin failed to impress because of one main reason that no one is talking about. Let’s call it Juneau-Gate. No one (yet) has mentioned how she has systematically stripped hundreds of jobs from Juneau, basically for her own convenience. Now, if she had fought the highly contested issue of moving the capital publicly, I wouldn’t have issue with it. Instead, she did it quietly and underhandedly. Now, that’s just my take, what’s yours? Just wanted to bring up this point. I was doing a project when I was there and I was hit with this reality over and over (from several people in the Alaska Congress for that matter).
Anyhow, thank you for a wonderful blog. I needed to hear an Alaskan take on this whole thing because I just couldn’t see the people I met and worked with for so many months taking this decision lightly. Keep on keeping on and I will continue reading.
Krystal “A former short-term Alaskan”
Venus Fly Trap anyone. I think the kid is the perfect star for abstinence-only education. “Boys, let this be a lesson to you. The only safe sex is masturbation. Having premarital sex will get you humiliated in front of the whole world.”
Oh yeah, I know, I know, its not going to work, but lets spend a few more billions of dollars on it anyway.
If I’m not careful…I’m going to lose my job!!! It is the middle of the night and for days I just cannot seem to turn away from this train wreck!
Thanks to ALL OF YOU, Mudflat and all the commenters for your words! I dont’ feel so alone in my simultaneous jaw-dropping stunned state and fist-clenching fear! You are all just like me! Thankfully.
I think my family and friends may think I’ve become a tad obsessed as I’ve emailed them too many articles and commentary over the long weekend.
Let’s hope that this nightmare ends within the month.
ciao from Atlanta (another very red state)
Here’s a legitimate question for the McCain camp after re-assuring to the world
that they vetted precisely and concluded satisfaction on Palin(s).
Why pick Palin knowingly that there could be issues especially in regards to the
children?
Outstanding work, thank you!
Divide the potential electorate up: those that weren’t going to vote; those that would only vote R; those that would only vote D; and independent and undecided voters. What impact does choosing Palin as VP have? Take out the middle two groups because no change with them. So, the calculation has to be: will her choice bring enough turned-off right wing voters back to the booth and sway enough undecideds in favor of 4 more years of GOP rule? Or, will the extremism she represents (that is revealed so excellently in this blog) steer undecideds towards Obama/Biden? I’m no expert but after a few news cycles I have got to believe that her choice is a negative for McCain. Let’s hope we can get back to the big issues dividing the candidates which should really decide this election.
Hello from Seoul, South Korea. As an American living overseas I’m watching this circus with dismay and hoping against hope that we don’t put an unqualified, neophyte politician and advocate of the Christian Right (with all due respect to Christians) into the White House. Thanks for your thorough “vetting” of Palin.
I’ve noticed the Repubs and even some in the media are crying “sexism” when it’s questioned who Palin could both perform the duties of a VP and raise her children. Wasn’t it the Christian Right who harped on how moms should stay at home rather than be working mothers? Well, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson has suddenly seen the light and now thinks it’s OK to be a working mother after years of saying the opposite:
http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=20080901_dobson_says_mothers_should_work_not_stay_at_home.htm
Apparently it’s alright to betray your own proclaimed “family values” if it gets your candidate elected.
Please people, don’t let her in the White House.
LaughingAt…:
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Bad judgement is one thing but motivation is another.
Her extremist religious beliefs are a motivator.
Even if a percentage of what I have learned from this blog is true, her extremist beliefs motivating her to all sorts of bad judgement calls, ie, trying to fire the librarian for not removing the evolution books.
I doubt she is currently the war-monger McCain is, but she appears to have the potential to learn fast, if not she can always pray.
If you think Dutch article is scary, then the 3 carrier battle groups currently sailing towards the gulf in addition to the 2 already there should make you really scared. A blockade is an act of war.
Actually what scares me more is what is going on with Russia. Unlike Iran, Russia does have nukes and the ICBMs to deliver them.
The MSM (AKA neo-con media) is currently in propaganda mode like in the run-up to the illegal invasion of Iraq echoing the administration lies.
If McCain is president, survives and does not require to tap Sarah Palin as Commander-in-chief, we should be ok, as McCain had said “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations.”
But Sarah Palin does become president, we can only hope she does not get orders from God, like Bush did.
No time for all I have to say!
Just a quick thanks; I love this blog & I’m spreading the word!!
Fantastic Blog, I tried to copy the photo of sarah as the jock of the rock radio
station. She looked so cute in her thong suit. If anyone else has it please
show it. I am disabled and was going to sell my computer to pay medical bills.
What is happining in politics is too important to miss. Regular TV cannot
compete with “MUDFLATS”. Therefore I’ll take the bad credit report(not that I
give a sh!+, my illness has no cure) just so I can continue to enjoy reading
a real life story about the Repubes. Please keep up the great site.
Obama/Biden 08.
Suggestion AKM:
You placed this above: “tuesday,
I can’t advertise on this version of WordPress… Thanks for the suggestion, though.
AKM”
Well with your Humor, your Writing, and All that is happening you might consider opening up an account at ‘Cafe Press’: http://www.cafepress.com/ or do a search around and find another where you can design and sell All Kinds Of Merchandise, like you also say you Alaskans got ‘Stevens’ coming as well and this Palin mess will keep on giving. You got the pics to use and the quick short descriptions.
You at least deserve a few duckets off of this and the traffic!
That way all you need is the link, you could throw a few pics of items into the posts. Don’t think Anyone Would Mind!
Add, down the road, if you folks can ever clean up Alaskan Politics {much like the rest of us that’ll never happen} you could design and sell that which is so Great about Alaska!!!!
Oh, and Headline the Merchandising products with the ‘Boots’, just remembered I need a new pair, mine get quickly worn out from concrete, not enough youngsters doin construction, with your site url!!!!!
“Do We Need Change, You’re Damn Right We Do, And The World Needs Us To Change, Now!!”
I wonder if McCain (or his handlers) have not chosen Palin deliberately, precisely because of all the unsavory aspects of her governing/family. She has now become a rallying point that will make it hard for people who are critical to not look like they are beating up on poor Sarah. All the governing issues are so complex the average person is going to ignore them. Personnel issues? Oh, she had a right to dismiss those she disagreed with. In bed with corrupt politicians? People don’t know who Ted Stevens is and don’t care, and anyway, that was before she saw the light. Elected mayor by a ‘landslide’ with a mere 800+ votes? The high school I work in is bigger than that. Well, she WAS elected to an ‘executive’ job. Maybe my principal, also a capable 40-odd year old woman with two adorable small children, should be tapped as McCain’s next running mate.
The stuff won’t stick, because the talking heads won’t mention it and the alleged MSM might print it but no one will read it. (if they can read—oh, I take that back. They can read enough nonsense about Obama being a Muslim and then have the nerve to accuse liberals of being ‘unfair.’)
The Republicans have proven they will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to win. They lie with straight faces or huge smiles, all of them rattling off the same talking points like robots. Perhaps McCain is an evil genius who has dicovered if you lie often enough, people will be so exhausted they’ll believe anything.
Palin has a right to her family’s privacy, but with this stunt of including the self-proclaimed ‘f-in’ redneck’ who states ‘if you f— with me I’ll kick your a–‘ at the convention, she has proven she will use her family to gain some sort of deranged sympathy vote. If anything, this will remind teenagers to be careful what they say on their MySpace pages and to wear condoms. Palin has incorporated herself as a company called ‘Rouge Cou,’ or redneck, so I guess she’s a self-proclaimed redneck too. I sure hope I don’t have to ever call her Vice President.
Banned Books Week is coming up at the end of the month. Go read one in honor of Sarah Palin.
visit http://panpet.wordpress.com/
Can someone please repost the address for the “Dutch article”? I can’t find it and I have to go to work now. (It was referenced earlier and it has to do with Iran.) Thx.
i’ll look for that link misska
THREE carrier groups heading to the gulf?
jeez, and i couldn’t sleep BEFORE.
mudflats is my connection to sanity right now.
i need to go to meeting in baltimore. no wi-fi on the train.
i will call the local Obama office and go work polls in virginia. you folks have inspired me to do more.
now please my new alaska friends, make your local reps get that gal to a deposition, or subpoena her and send the marshalls after her with an arrest warrant if she doesn’t show. if you folks put unrelenting pressure for this, maybe we can get these questions answered, or at least a new veep so if they steal this thing we know we have a safe old same-ole’ codger, instead of such a loose cannon
I had this thought while waking up this morning, possibly influenced by Thomas Frank’s book, ‘What’s the Matter With Kansas?’ Palin is actually a brilliant pick, and while they may not have planned on her family issues coming up, with them and the rest of her background she is the perfect values voter distraction from the real issues. She has gotten McCain tremendous press and will continue to do so, and he wouldn’t drop her now because she is going to get him tons of votes, plus the distractions from the fact that a vote for him is a vote for 4 more years of bad policy we can’t afford.
I want all of the truth about Palin to come out but meantime, we need to energize the progressive/Obama base in the way that Palin is energizing McCain’s. Let’s not get distracted from all of the other dirty tricks that will happen during this election (voting machines come to mind) and let’s do what we can to get Obama elected.
governor of AK? no,
former mayor? no
HER DAUGHTER, 1st note of the bio.
my dutch is rusty, but i am quite sure….
McCain trots op Palin
WASHINGTON – De Republikeinse presidentskandidaat John McCain heeft dinsdag laten weten dat hij „erg trots” is op zijn running mate Sarah Palin. McCain liet zich voor het eerst uit over zijn rechterhand na de bekendmaking dinsdag van de zwangerschap van haar 17-jarige dochter.
still looking for the link, the article was posted here i thought, was in english. sorry, now my headsaspinning…
From the small bit of the RNC that I watched last night, not a single Republican would say that Palin is ready to become president, which is usually the number one criteria for a vice president. Interesting. This question needs to be asked more in my opinion.
scarboro says they should have released her name last tuesday.
but they didn’t talk to her til THURSDAY!!!
This is a comforting take on the situation from the San Francisco Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/09/03/notes090308.DTL&nl=fix
I think most people were ready to respect Palin’s family wishes and give Bristol her privacy. By bringing Bristol’s baby father on the GOP stage with Sarah Palin after she accepts the VP nomination. I think this is a disgrace and show how Sarah Palin is willing to sell out her own daughter for votes. I would want to protect my daughter and keep her as far away from prying eyes.
More stories will service. Teenagers talk all the time and I’m sure Levi has a girlfriend or two. A living soup opera playing out on the national stage is not what the American people need or deserve.
thanks nightmare…
did you see dobson backpedaling on that?
when the msm actually asked him about it, he said is was joke, all in good fun
Thank you for this blog. There is just not enough time in the day for me to sit and read and go through the blog and comments like I want to, and still keep my job. I am addicted to this blog and this trashy story.
Ms. Palin seems like an exceptional woman in a lot of ways, but we must, I mean MUST, keep this lady out the White House by getting the truth out there.
seems like obamas speech was a month ago.
gotta hand it to them on stealing the thunder, but i don’t think this is what they had in mind.
As a transplanted Alaskan native and Democrat, I’ve really enjoyed your page. Superlative. Keep it up.
I’m giving Governor Palin two weeks. That should be enough time to wreak a fair amount of damage on her already overexposed family, complete with boyfriends and, no doubt, their dogs and hampsters.
My guess is that when the hampsters are trotted out onto stage at the RNC and promptly go into a catatonic withdrawal, her doctor may recommend an extended stay in warmer climates and you folks up there may get a chance at another governor.
Hey, statistically, there’s a chance….
washington post
Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms
By Paul Kane
ST. PAUL — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.
After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation — “SP” — Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.
According to Passage House’s web site, its purpose is to provide “young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives” and help teen moms “become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families.”
Palin’s own daughter, Bristol, is five months pregnant and has plans to wed.
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family,” Palin said in a statement released by the McCain campaign. “We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy, as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”
Earlier today the Associated Press reported that Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, opposed funding to prevent teen pregnancies, a position that Palin also took as governor. “The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support,” she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates.
Reporters asked McCain in November 2007 whether he supported grants for sex education in the United States, whether such programs should include directions for using contraceptives and whether he supports President Bush’s policy of promoting abstinence.
“Ahhh, I think I support the president’s policy,” McCain said.
Here is that link to the Dutch newspaper “De Telegraaf”, a conservative paper, btw.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/amerikaanse_verkiezingen/1829949/__McCain_trots_op_Palin__.html?cid=rss
Laughingat:
You should really just give a Title and cut of the article with URL instead of the whole thing, it gives the traffic so the papers etc know what people want in their reporting, for just one thing, also cuts down on the thread. people can always right click than come back.
A quick look round the GOP convention site, I searched for who was an expert in climate change …….
http://portal.gopconvention2008.com/search/keyword.aspx?keyword=Climate%20Change
It seems to come up with only one person who claims expertise on climate change, and yes, you’ve guessed it. Sarah Palin.
A few questions. On the speeches last night, did they mention the infrastructure at all? I suspect they didn’t.
The republicans want to make a big deal over her having a downs syndrome baby. Even though the statistics from the cdc on the chances of having a baby with downs syndrome is very low when you compare it to the autism rates. One of the rebuttals to this would be in families where there is a special needs child, fifty percent of those marriages end up in divorce. Special needs children need a stable environment. Being in politics is not a stable environment for the family.
What is Palin’s stance on special education and special needs? Did she increase the budget or decrease it? Did her position change after she found out she would have a special needs child? Or did it remain the same? What about group homes for the special needs children once they become adults? Did she increase the social service budget or slash it?
Finally, the republicans are making a very big mistake by making this election on abortion. Want to fire up democrats, especially women in the democratic party? Say you will outlaw all abortions. Which is what they are trying to do.
Washington Post: INTENSIVE BRIEFINGS
Before Speech, Running Mate Gets Some Coaching
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/02/AR2008090203337.html?hpid=topnews
Not anticipating that McCain would choose a woman as his running mate, the speech that was prepared in advance was “very masculine,” according to campaign manager Rick Davis, and “we had to start from scratch.”
Republican tool.
OPEN LETTER TO JOHN MCCAIN, PALIN, EXTREME RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS, AND PRESIDENT BUSH:
You speak of REFORM? This is the REFORM PARTY? Reform to what? To your way of thinking or GET OUT OF THE WAY? So if I don’t reform to your way of thinking, are you going to fire me too? Am I now UN-AMERICAN and UN-PATRIOTIC?
After watching last nights convention speeches, as a Republican Conservative, I am disgusted to see that the Republican Party is creating further divide in America. It is not an INCLUSIVE Party. It does not speak for ALL AMERICANS or ALL CHRISTIANS. The Republican Party has turned into a movement for the extreme right wing evangelicals! It is an EXCLUSIVE CLUB that is DIVISIVE, NOT INCLUSIVE!
COUNTRY FIRST? This country belongs to MANY people, not just your brand of Republicanism! You don’t get to decide who is PATRIOTIC and who is not! You don’t get to say who is a Christian and who is not!
Shame on You President Bush. When you said that McCain was going to stand up to the “ANGRY LEFT” we know you were really talking about the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS who will not REFORM or CONFORM to how you’ve been running this country!!! You just reinforced what the rest of us Americans have known all along, that you and the right wing evangelical Republican’s are DIVISIVE and NOT INCLUSIVE of ALL Americans!
Palin Place is right —
sometimes it’s hilarious,
sometimes it’s surreal.
Greetings from Perth, Australia, the most isolated city on earth (Fuck you, Jueneu).
The blog’s great. This nomination is the best trainwreck ever. Love it to death!
My concern is that this woman is so narcissistic that she is blinded by her own reflection in the camera. She continues to make decisions that are horrifically mind boggling. I can’t even begin to figure out where this line of thinking stems from. However, SHE IS CONSISTENT!!!
No one in their right mind (with all of these skeletons), would have accepted McCain’s offer. This is so ugly.
If the reps decide to dump her (and she will be the last to know) it is going to be ugly because they will dump her and never speak of her again. They will have to dissassociated themselves from this lunacy.
I usually dismiss the polls, but this is a good sign that American women have not all lost their minds:
From http://www.gallup.com (http://www.gallup.com/poll/109975/Obama-Gains-Overall-McCain-Among-GOP-Women.aspx) —
“Previous Gallup analysis has suggested that McCain’s selection of a woman as his vice-presidential running mate might have the most impact on independent white women, who before the Democratic Convention were essentially split down the middle in terms of candidate support.
These data show, however, that at least initially, McCain has lost ground among both white independent women and white independent men (and among Democrats of both genders) since the convention and his vice-presidential selection.
Instead, the data suggest that McCain has in essence fought a rear-guard action of sorts among white women of his own GOP base, building their support to a degree even as he was losing support among independents and Democrats of both genders.
It is possible, but not provable with these data, that McCain’s selection of a woman, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, as his vice-presidential running mate may have had the effect of solidifying support among women of his own party.
The Republicans no doubt hope that this week’s convention, and in particular Palin’s address on Wednesday, will help them make inroads not only among white Republican women, but also among independent (and perhaps Democratic) women.”
Latest I’ve read on “troopergate” sorry no link to supply. Probably HuffingtonPost on maybe even CNN.
The good Governor Palin is thinking of filing an ethics complaint against herself to take this investigation out of the hands of the independent investigators, and the state legislature, and make it a “personnel matter” i.e. to have it investigated by the three person State Personnel Board that she appointed.
Legislature is not impressed. Says it won’t make any difference, they will keep on keeping on with what they are doing, and subpoena her, if need be to get her testimony.
Lordy, I can’t wait for the tv series, or the movie on this.
She wants privacy for her daughter, so she is flying the baby’s daddy to the RNC. Well….. that should assure them of all the privacy they need, in front of several thousand people, and several hundreds national, and world press.
Your blog has almost moved up ahead of me checking my fantasy baseball team. (Which is the first thing I read every day.) You are now running a close second.
Thanks, and keep the news coming. We, in the lower 48 are grateful as heck.
I’m in England and we’re watching the whole thing with utter amazement. Our right-wing press is hailing Palin as some sort of Milf messiah but people in the street see it more like a scene from Idiocracy. We’ve had similar things here with Conservative politicians over the past few decades preaching the joys of marriage & family life then getting caught having affairs/going gay/dying in perculiar sex acts, so we’re pretty familiar with the hypocracy thing. Whats more disturbing is this religious mania where the Repubs seem to view Christianity in the same way as the Mad Mullahs view Islam. The world really doesn’t need to be torn asunder because the Pres thinks God is commanding them to wipe out unbelievers. Please Americans elect someone who isn’t a religious maniac! And being pro-science would help – people love the Americans when they do awesome things with technology. But that assumes a good education system that doesn’t base the dating of planet Earth on Archbishop Usher’s 17th century musings!
Sam Harris today in the L.A. Times:
Great !!!! start out the day to find even scarecrows are out of work ….
Anything more on her husband the AIP america hater ??
I’m not quite sure how I discovered your blog, but I’d like to thank you for it in any event.
Your observations are spot on and so well written!
Even after Sarah Palin has been long forgotten (please God) Mudflats won’t be.
OMG. The ADN is reporting that in an attempt to stop the legislative investigation of Palin’s firing of Monegan, Palin’s lawyer has submitted an “ethics complaint” regarding that matter to the Alaska State AG. In other words, Palin’s lawyer is trying to get the entire Monegan matter to be investigated and decided by the Alaska Personnel Board (made up of three Palin appointees). Palin’s lawyer will claim that the Alaska Personnel Board (again, made up entirely of people appointed by Palin) has the exclusive right to make the determination as to whether Palin did anything wrong.
I was going to make a comment yesterday that I thought Palin’s lawyer would end up being her Fred Fielding (the White House Counsel who, to date, has been effective in blocking Congress from interviewing Karl Rove, Harriet Miers and Josh Bolton on the firing of the US Attorneys – you remember those folks, don’t you, the ones who have spit on the House and Senate subpoenas???)
Anyway, I digress. I don’t mean to be the voice of doom, but I think that the Monegan investigation is going to go unresolved before the election in November. Shit.
This Dutch article (from our most populistic right-wing newspaper) has been mentioned several times in the comments above:
McCain trots op Palin
WASHINGTON – De Republikeinse presidentskandidaat John McCain heeft dinsdag laten weten dat hij „erg trots” is op zijn running mate Sarah Palin. McCain liet zich voor het eerst uit over zijn rechterhand na de bekendmaking dinsdag van de zwangerschap van haar 17-jarige dochter.
I’m not sure what attracts your attention, since I can find not so much news in it. It just says that JMC declared he is ‘very proud’ of his running mate SP, this being his first statement about her after the announcement of the pregnancy.
I’d say Harris is wrong on this.
Americans don’t want average people in high office. They want an ordinary citizen to rise up out of their midst to brilliant heights. This is the appeal of Sarah Palin– that woman I chat with at our sons’ hockey games who is going to Washington to do God’s work.
This is the myth of Cinicinnatus, the brilliant general called from his plow to save the nation who, once the nation is safe, gives up power and goes back to his farm. The idea has been around since the Revolution.
The problem is that, with the rise of media, most of our Crincinnati have been fakes– privileged or bought-off politicians working for economic elites, professional front men and women who only pretend to the common touch.
Sarah Palin is nowhere near average. She has extra extra large political ambitions with the extra extra small morals to go with them.
I can’t help but think this is partially intentional. The McCain of the 90’s was known for getting his revenge eventually, no matter how long it took. He’s always been somewhat of a hothead and kind of a dick in general.
He’s fairly areligious, and can barely conceal his contempt for many of the fundies (and vice versa). He’s not a business-head corporo-Repub on CNBC arguing growth indicators or economic policy. He hates the Bushes, especially from 2004, with the whole illegitimate black baby thing.
He can’t go after the moderates because he’s chained to his nutcase bases. Word is that if he would have picked Lieberman, there would have been open revolt. So he’s left in no-man’s land.
It looks to me like he’s serving up the religious far-right a “be careful what you wish for” lesson before he’s slow-roasted on a spit by the Obama campaign. Like he really gives a shit– he’s got more houses than he can count and more money than time left on this earth.
The “backroom players” probably gave him a list of “vetted” people, and he called their bluffs like the complete bastard he is. There’s a very real possibility that the greater American public will be completely repulsed by Palin, although this may take some time to develop. This may lead toward a pop-culture mockery of the religious right and equate to a hearty McCain defeat come November. This will greatly weaken the fundies’ hand going forward.
If this doesn’t occur, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see a 3rd party splinter off. We already had talk of a Bloomberg / Hagel independent run earlier. You can definitely see room for a party for real fiscal conservatism / economic policy, real security / energy focus, enough watered-down libertarianism / constitutionalism to draw most of the Ron Paul crowd, etc. If they were to make a clean break from the evangelicals and give up stupid crap like anti-gay legislation, overturning Roe v. Wade (vs simply a late-term general ban with plenty of exceptions / loopholes), etc, they could be a force to be reckoned with.
Palindrome for Sarah’s car window on the way to the hospital “NO TOT ON”
Finally, an Editorial in the Washington Post is asking why on earth Sarah Palin would fly from Texas to Alaska AFTER going into labor ONE MONTH EARLY with a SPECIAL NEEDS BABY. Why aren’t any of the major news outlets AT LEAST asking these questions??? THis isn’t a RUMOR.. it’s FACT. This has nothing to do with spreading the Trig rumor. This is plain fact, and for the courtesy of the millions of voters out there, Sarah Palin needs to have the decency to answer the questions.
Even if I had FALSE labor with a special needs baby, I would get myself to the nearest hospital. Apparently, the hospital where Trig was born doesn’t even have a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit. So, her water breaks, she flys across the hemisphere, lands in Anchorage, drives one hour to Wasilla (bypassing 2 major hospitals), only to end up at a hospital that doesn’t even have a NICU. Why the heck cant our questions be answered? WE ARE VOTERS, AND WE SHOULD DEMAND ANSWERS. VOTERS HAVE RIGHTS TO HAVE OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, and don’t any of you forget that.
Sorry for my “tone” but I’m so sick of the media tip-toeing around this. Just answer our questions. It’s a FACT, not rumor.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sally_quinn/2008/09/sarah_palins_priorities.html
Police-gate?
PalinGate (06:47:09) : Absolutely agree.
It’s either completely insane, or it it’s a lie. Just the possibility of causing an emergency landing at some small regional airport is bad enough.
sosad,
Don’t know if this has made it to this most excellent of blogs but interesting little nuggets from YouTube on the AIP and
Gov Palin:
and this one as well:
Sue, Your report is exactly the kind of Palin things that we need to start focusing on.
We need to start complaining to the MSM to start covering Palin’s other issues and totally get away from any more discussions of Palin’s daughter, the boyfriend and either baby.
The Republicans are driving this conversation and using it to cover up all Palins other issues. Did you notice last night and today if you have the radio or TV on, how all the Repubs are complaining that the Dems are out of line attacking the Palin family? It’s as if a memo went out for them all to make the same comment. It’s all they are saying! If they say it enough, it will be perceived to be true even if it isn’t, by the vast majority of people who only form opinions based on soundbites.
It’s a trap and we are all, myself included , are falling into it and it is keeping the focus off of bigger flaws in this VP candidate.
We need to get busy counteracting this now!! Make some noise! Hold the MSM’s feet to the fire!
Here is some contact info:
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four people whou should be able to confirm that sarah gave birth to trig at matsu on april 18th.
the ob’s who work there:
OB/GYN
Peggy Downing, MD 907-357-4963
D. Glen Elrod, MD 907-746-7747
Ellen Faucett, DO 907-357-4963
Michael Fitzgerald, MD 907-746-7747
has anyone called them?
You forgot to mention that she didn’t even tell the plane crew that she was pregnant, let alone potentially in labor. If she had, they wouldn’t have let her on it.
I think it shows that this woman is just as reckless as McCain– and apparently just as big a liar. It didn’t take long after the selection for both of them to be caught in whoppers— hers that she rejected the “bridge to nowhere,” his that he knew about her daughter’s pregnancy before he picked her.
No wonder he called her his “soulmate.”
WRT to the boy, I can’t help but feeling that there is going to a shotgun wedding on the convention floor. They’ll spin it any old which way but that what it will be.
To all women who fought hard for equal rights and to be able to decide what YOU can fianally do with your own life, Remember this
THEY WILL OVERTURN ROE VS WADE……..A MAJOR STEP BACKWARDS.
Did I also hear that Bristol argued with her MUM she didn’t want to get married when told of her pregnancy? (cover up) And we all know Levi “didn’t want kids” Why force these two KIDS to do something they really don’t want. I see another family divorce and if Levi works for his father in law, how soon during the divorce will he be FIRED?
Hello WAKE UP AMERICA
It really is just business as usual for Palin. Look at a distance and you see what she wants you to see. Look a little closer and you see a self centered, self absorbed, thin skinned, vindictive woman who knows no bounds when it comes to her, her image, and what she wants.
Sarah Palin also is more knee jerk in her responses to hard questions, seemingly without thinking, and then spins to present it in the “right” way.
See the “no one from my administration pressured Monagan.” (Except of course, Frank Bailey, Annette Krietzer, Ivy Fry, and my husband Todd.) It is still a lie, even if your fingers are crossed behind your back.
@anne913 –
I have written chapter on verse on this here:
http://bgladd.blogspot.com/2008/04/diploid-dave-et-al.html
I get the sense that after eight years of being sucked in by Republican talking points, the MSM has finally had enough. I’m seeing them finally going after some of the nonsense the Republican Party is putting out about Palin and are finding ways of getting around the standard “change the subject” methodology.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/02/politics/animal/main4409075.shtml
What about this people ??? she was sleeping with a registered AIP member ..
She was sympathetic to the cause ,, if it were to have taken off she would have jumped on that ship in a second .
America haters club .. No one wants to talk about it ??? Why ???
It’s treason to me ..
Oh and I forgot as far as her leading the U.S.,
the COUNTY that I live in has a larger population than her State.
Plwalsh (07:01:17) :
I know; I was trying to think of the best case scenario if she went into actual labor on the plane, and that scenario turns out to be pretty damn bad itself!
Perhaps I have just read too much about this and have superior knowledge, but even the local paper (ADN) is soft of this story.
From this article: Keller said she never hung out with Palin but intends to vote for the McCain-Palin ticket. With little prompting, she repeated the McCain campaign talking point about Palin having ‘more executive experience than anybody on the ticket.'”
Keller, the mayor of Wasilla, is Sarah Palin’s cousin, and Palin backed her (rather than her mother-in-law) in the election.
It is unreal how this whole thing is being vetted and reported.
Kimbers,
I agree with wholeheartedly! Everytime I see another headline about her daughter, or hear/read another reporter asking someone about her daughter’s pregnancy instead of “troopergate”…..I can’t help but scream at the computer/TV: Talk about Troopergate! Talk about the lie she told about the Bridge to Nowhere! Expose her “executive experience”! You are diminishing the REAL ISSUES but focusing on an immaterial and sympathic issue!
You put a lot of work into your list of the MSM (Only yesterday I figured out what that acronym stood for)! I emailed the writer of an article on the Washington Post just yesterday warning him of the consequences if he continues. I will use your list and email many of them.
Please everyone, stop the personal attacks on her family that I see every where on line. We have MUCH BIGGER and LEGITMATE concerns that we should be talking about instead! Don’t shut down the conversation by losing credibility! It will backfire….and I for one am not willing to endure the nightmare that would be if she were…that “heartbeat” away from the other nightmare Iwhom I used to like 8 years ago…pity).
Off soapbox now….
Fly on the Wall (6:38:36)
I mentioned to a friend yesterday that maybe the republican party was going to use this election cycle to rid itself of the “Talibangicals” (thanks,trex)
This is awfully convoluted tho. Could backfire.
Love the blog Mudflat…as an Alaskan Ex Pat in SoCal out of the Great Land for 6 years I’m missing all the action. Used to be that Eldon Mulder, Ramona Barnes and Gail Phillips were the only source of fun in Juneau and now all this! One thing is clear:
1) Hollis French is the new Kenneth Star but much nicer and climbs McKinley
2) Democrats need to follow the law, not the lies
3) When in doubt about Alaskans ability to melt down further remember the Governor’s campaign which included John Lindauer???? Bring him back!
4) Someone needs a quote from Frank “The Tank” Murkowski on the Palin Vette.
Kimbers: Exactly. Honestly, I think the GOP will be positively gleeful if all of us keep talking about pregnancy (either Bristol Palin’s or Sarah Palin’s). What about the Monegan issue? What about Palin being Miss Earmark (as well as Miss Wasilla)? What about Iraq being a mission from God??!!!
Okay, okay, I’m stepping away from the computer….away from the computer….sigh.
McCain Aide Stumped On Palin’s National Security Experience
BobbyG..
I did read this article, can be confusing in areas for sure.
So the way I read it life does not begin at conception.
what say you?
Just want to get something off my chest. I became pregant as a teenager also. My parents let ME tell who I wanted to tell, and when. They were very supportive and understanding. Everything was done in a way that I was most comfortable. Being young, my mother quit her job, and spent the next 2 years helping me, so that I was able to contuine my education. Without my mom by my side daily, I’m not sure how things would have turned out. As it stands now, I have a wonderful 30 year old son, and 3 perfect grandchildren. For this mother to choose this path for her daughter is horrible. I beleive that this poor child didn’t even enter her thoughts. If she can do this to her own child, image what she would do to this country. Thank you.
Rene (07:17:12) :
I’m guessing that it would probably be the other way around. I’d wager that the Republican “brand” will be irrevocably tarnished in the near term by this stunt and the last 8 years of nonstop spending of borrowed money. With the advent of some serious plutocrat-style funding (Bloomberg, etc), it’d be much easier to come up with a new platform rather than reform one with so much baggage.
Time will tell.
Maybe, with Levi arriving at the convention, the right wingers are planning a little national wedding for all to become teary-eyed over.
The New York Times Editorial
September 3, 2008
Candidate McCain’s Big Decision
More often than not, the role of a vice president is a minor one, unless some tragedy occurs. But a presidential nominee’s choice of a running mate is vitally important. It is his first executive decision and offers an important insight into how that nominee would lead the nation.
If John McCain wants voters to conclude, as he argues, that he has more independence and experience and better judgment than Barack Obama, he made a bad start by choosing Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
Mr. McCain’s supporters are valiantly trying to argue that the selection was a bold stroke that shows their candidate is a risk-taking maverick who — we can believe — will change Washington. (Mr. Obama’s call for change — now “the change we need” — has become all the rage in St. Paul.)
To us, it says the opposite. Mr. McCain’s snap choice of Ms. Palin reflects his impulsive streak: a wild play that he made after conservative activists warned him that he would face an all-out revolt in the party if he chose who he really wanted — Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut.
Why Mr. McCain would want to pander to right-wing activists — who helped George W. Bush kill off his candidacy in the 2000 primaries in a particularly ugly way — is baffling. Frankly, they have no place to go. Mr. McCain would have a lot more success demonstrating his independence, and his courage, if he stood up to them the way he did in 2000.
As far as we can tell, Mr. McCain and his aides did almost no due diligence before choosing Ms. Palin, raising serious questions about his management skills. The fact that Ms. Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is pregnant is irrelevant to her candidacy. There are, however, very serious questions about her political past and her ideology.
If Mr. McCain wanted to break with his party’s past and choose the Republicans’ first female vice presidential candidate, there are a number of politicians out there with far greater experience and stature than Ms. Palin, who has been in Alaska’s Statehouse for less than two years.
Before she was elected governor, she was mayor of a tiny Anchorage suburb, where her greatest accomplishment was raising the sales tax to build a hockey rink. According to Time magazine, she also sought to have books banned from the local library and threatened to fire the librarian.
For Mr. McCain to go on claiming that Mr. Obama has too little experience to be president after almost three years in the United States Senate is laughable now that he has announced that someone with no national or foreign policy experience is qualified to replace him, if necessary.
Senator Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican who has been one of Mr. McCain’s most loyal friends, said Tuesday that he was certain that Ms. Palin would take the right positions on issues like Iraq, Russia’s invasion of Georgia and Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions. That seemed based largely on his repeated assertion that Ms. Palin would be tended by Mr. McCain’s foreign policy advisers. That was not much of an endorsement.
Some of the things Ms. Palin has had to say in the recent past about foreign policy are especially worrisome. In a speech last June to her former church in Wasilla, Ms. Palin said the war in Iraq was “a task that is from God.” Mr. Bush made similar claims as he rejected all sound mortal advice on how to conduct the war.
Mr. McCain, Mr. Graham and others also claim that Ms. Palin is a fearless reformer who is committed to fighting waste, fraud and earmarks. Ms. Palin did show courage taking on some of the Alaska Republican Party’s most sleazy politicians. But she also was an eager recipient of earmarked money as a mayor and governor.
Mayor Palin gathered up $27 million in subsidies from Washington, $15 million of it for a railroad from her town to the ski resort hometown of Senator Ted Stevens, now under indictment for failing to report gifts.
The Republicans are presenting Ms. Palin as a crusader against Mr. Stevens’s infamous “Bridge to Nowhere.” The record says otherwise; she initially supported Mr. Stevens’s boondoggle, diverting the money to other projects when the bridge became a political disaster. In her speech to the Wasilla Assembly of God in June, Ms. Palin said it was “God’s will” that the federal government contribute to a $30 billion gas pipeline she wants built in Alaska.
Mr. McCain will make his acceptance speech on Thursday, and Ms. Palin will speak on Wednesday. Those two appearances will go a long way to forming voters’ views of this Republican ticket.
As Senator Graham noted, Mr. McCain has to reach out beyond the party’s loyal base. “We’re going to have to win this thing,” he said. “This is not our race to lose.”
Mr. McCain’s hurdles are substantial. To start, he has to overcome Mr. Bush’s record of failures. (The president addressed the convention Tuesday night and now, McCain strategists fervently hope, will retire quietly to the Rose Garden.) That record includes the disastrous war in Iraq, a ballooning deficit, the mortgage crisis — and the list goes on.
To address those many problems, this country needs a leader with sound judgment and strong leadership skills. Choosing Ms. Palin raises serious questions about Mr. McCain’s qualifications.
Rene (07:17:12) :
I’d like to add something to that. Think like a shit-kicking 13 year old. If you aren’t allowed to win, you’ll have a temper tantrum and stick it to the man.
If you have more houses than you can count, your own jet, and money coming out your ears, it’s a lot easier to be “risky”. He’s already had cancer cut out of his face several times. Settling a couple old scores could be satisfying.
banjobaily: will the NRA bring the shotgun?
McCain Aide Stumped On Palin’s National Security Experience
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Thanks for all the good info — not to mention attracting all the great commenters with more good info…
I can’t leave this site alone!
How many of you knew that one third of the VP’s have taken office ?????
That’s a 35% chance she will be in charge ,,not taking into account his health and age ..
I’m terrified that she’ll give a great speech tonight (written by the campaign, of course), and everyone will forget the past few days. It will be up to blogs like this and Daily Kos, and others, to make sure SP’s corruption problems stay front and center, especially as the republicans ramp up their attacks on Obama.
How amazing was Campbell Brown, by the way, giving it to Tucker Bounds? She’s my new hero!
@anne913 (07:27:54) :
BobbyG..
I did read this article, can be confusing in areas for sure.
So the way I read it life does not begin at conception.
what say you?
________
Not the question. Is a fertilized ovum “life”? Yes. Is it a “human life”? Again yes.
Is it a “person”?
NO.
“Life Begins at Conception” is a red herring fallacy.
so sad if those stats hold true coupled with age and health we have the possibility close to 50%. If she is willing to abuse her power as governor image the abuse of power that’s possible as President. I guessed we figured out why she was picked.
banjobailey, for the record, as a former deputy registrar who knows what juveniles have to do to get married in this state, I would seriously not believe it if that were to happen. Seriously. Then we would have marriage-gate and Palin’s got enough storm clouds brewing as it is.
Back to phone calling. For the first time ever, I love my cell phone. : )
I’m starting to wonder if this kid had a choice. Isn’t this a case of statutory rape? Does he still have that hanging over his head? His mom doesn’t seem to want anything to do with any of this? I mean ok I’ll marry her, but you’d have to threaten me with a cellmate named Mountain Man to get me to go to the convention.
John Henry (07:43:20) :
You’re not the only one. But guess who has the power to pardon here?
You know, there is one potential advantage to the pregnancy story over the political issues. It is perfect tabloid fodder and could keep Palin’s dirty laundry in the check out lines until November. The National Enquirer is promising to do Sarah the way they did John Edwards. And they fried his reputation pretty much single handedly.
How long before Levi announces he is joining the armed forces?
No one has answered my question yet: is it true that Briston isn’t the first girl Levin got pregnant?
I’m also a little worried about the possibility that she’ll give a good speech tonight. They have her on such a tight leash, that we haven’t gotten anything other than her “Hillary-praising” stump speeches. Unleash her. Let us see who the real Sarah Palin is.
Sorry, I meant Bristol. Inquiring minds want to know.
It’ll be a sad day if the National Enquirer turns out to be the true journalist in all of this. Yikes!
I’ve started posting things on my blog, and other forums I go to about Palin and point to this blog. I think WE need to stop talking of babygate ourselves and focus on the REAL issues; troopergate, book banning, her lack of experience.
Plwalsh (07:46:21) :
Also contributing to this is that bitchy conservative women love to eat their own when they don’t measure up. This overlaps with the target audience of checkout-line gossip rags. It’s almost a perfect storm.
Sarah Palin doesn’t measure up, except to people that you couldn’t convince of anything anyways.
So now the Ap is saying that:
The McCain campaign on Tuesday forcefully worked to tamp down questions about Sarah Palin’s association with the Independence Party and with former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan that were being raised by Democrats, Internet bloggers and even Independence Party officials.
It was Pat Buchanan himself that said this. Not a democrat, independent or internet blogger. I already emailed the AP on this.
How about cram for a test ,, she will have to learn everything she knows about foreign policy before she goes up against Joe .. I pray he ,with calm demeanor tears her apart limb by limb .. May be the only chance we have since all you people want to talk about is baby’s ..
What about her AIP husband ,,that is civil war type thinking ,,not as important as baby’s right ?
The only way this baby thing will be an issue is if there is a picture of her feeding one to a bear ,,then shoots the bear .
raingods (07:50:55) :
How about you speak for yourself? You’ve got your own blog. Go use it.
We’ll hold down the fort here talking about whatever we damn well please. You’re not in a position to define what a “REAL issue” is.
Oh, she WILL give a terrific speech tonight. No question at all. She looks great and is a great performer and will do everything she is asked to do without batting an eyelash.
Her problem is going to be her first press conference. There will be several days worth of embarassing questions. My question is whether the McCain Campaign can keep her away from the media until the election.
Not much time to write so just a few thoughts:
1. Re: baby – there is so much “information” on this issue it is pretty hard to make sense of it all. Timelines are important, especially around Bristol’s absence from school for “mono” and pictures which allegedly show a baby bump in 2007. Is there a chance that Trig is Bristol’s baby and that she is not really pregnant? To cover up rumours regarding true mother of Trig they have decided to throw everyone off course by saying, “No, Bristol wasn’t pregnant then, she is pregnant now!”? Then, a few weeks from now they announce that she had a miscarriage. More sympathy from the right and the rumours about Sarah being the mother of Trig have died (so they hope). I know, sounds incredible and only a truly immoral person would dare put the other parties up to it, but nothing in politics (whatever party) would truly surprise me. I would be shocked if this played out, but the truth is sometime stranger than fiction. Hope it is not the case, but if it does happen I want to be able to say I thought it was at least possible 🙂
2. Will Bristol be wearing an engagement ring tonight at the convention?
Oh, this poor little girl. Forced into a “shot gun” marriage (wow, out of dark ages) at 17 Years old to this very immature 18 year old boy who will probably spend all his time with his “buddies’ down at the local bar or playing around with every girl in town. My skin just crawls when I read these articles about him. This family sounds like the Jukes. What in the world possessed John McCain?
Hey PalinGate,
With a screaching voice like that, I would hope no one takes her seriously
Tammy,
I agree with you, I heard it on MSNBC (I’m sure they have it on tape) when Buchanan said last Friday Palin supported him in 2000.
National Enquirer.com says it’s under construction right now. I wonder if they’re up to something.
Fly:
Yes, I wonder about the Palin gossip among the ladies at the Country Club. The Palins are clearly not “people like us” to that branch of the Republican Party. Up to now, the Republicans have been able to get much of the redneck, evangelical vote without actually giving them any power.
As for the National Enquirer, I think that publication of dubious repute embarassed the hell out of the MSM when it pinned down the Edwards scandal and made them all look like wimps. They won’t want that to happen again.
Well, I’m gonna say this and some people might get mad but I don;t care:
How is Sarah Palin, a mother with 5 kids, one who happens to be special needs, and one with a baby on the way, going to trot around the world, solve domestic problems, perform all duties as VP, AND still be an involved mother?
I know I will get the “women can do ANYTHING” bit from some people, but HELLO!! I am a mother of three small children, none having special needs, and I can tell you this-there is NO WAY that I could commit myself to something as important as #2 of this country, and still be the mother to my children that they need me to be.
Now I’m not saying women shouldn’t work. I am a school teacher and work very hard myself. But I’m home every night, cook supper every night, help with the school projects, attend all the games, make cupcakes for the school parties, do the laundry and other cleaning ect…… AND by the end of the day I am pooped out.
Is she just planning to farm the kids out to everyone else? Little Trig is going to need 24 hour care FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. How does being VP fit into this???
Every women that I have conversed with about SP has said the same thing: How does she plan to do this with 5 kids, a special needs child, and a grandbaby on the way????
O know that this will be thought of as sexist, as the McBush campaign is trying to play it off this way, and it seems the media don;t want to ask it but I’m freaking serious. I don;t want to hear the “I’m a strong women and can multitask”. Well guess what, I’m a school teacher and I see everyday what happens when the parents, especially the mother is not involved in the childs life.
Okay thats my rant.
Lola, a group of hired nannies
Does anyone know/remember where to find those candid photos taken of Bristol and Trip backstage after the Ohio announcement? And the ones with her and the baby off of that myspace page? (Sorry, I’ve read so much over the past 5 days that I”m going cross-eyed). It just struck me that she seems so “engaged” and “maternal”…whereas I haven’t seen anything equivalent with Sarah Palin.
Fly: I liked your long comment up above. Good analysis. Thanks!
Lola (08:08:56) :
Now you understand what “framing” is. They’re trying to frame the debate by making you think that saying certain things are out of bounds.
But many things are not out of bounds, regardless of how they try to frame things. What you’re saying is perfectly reasonable, and does not equate to “WOMEN HAVE NO PLACE IN THE WORKFORCE!!1!”.
They’ll try to translate what you’re saying into a straw man, and then they’ll kick that straw man’s ass. Don’t let them get away with it.
Two unanswered questions for mudflats AMR or National Enquirer: Did Palin REALLY win Miss Congeniality in Miss Alaska contest or not, as offered by anonymous tipster commenter? Does Levi have any other babies out there? Only Alaskans know. . .
Hey Fly-
Get a grip, I’m here for the same reason you are. Did you even bother reading my whole post? Or are you intent on fostering what the MSM perceives as the only issue with Palin? Grow up.
they’ll “meet” her tonite, hear all the glowing bs
then see her plastered all over the check-out tabloids tomorrow!
class act, johnny.
i think they gobble up the brittney stuff, but vice-pres? i can’t see that people want their leader THAT regular.
ReaderinMD: you can see a lot of the backstage pictures on McCain’s daughter’s blog. (sorry to advertisie it here, folks)
http://mccainblogette.com/postings/083008_0928.shtml
I find it interesting how the conservative mind works. When Palin’s nomination was first announced, my conservative friends? seemed hesitant about what to think. Soon, however, I heard them repeating exactly what was being said on Rush Limbo and other conservative programs and blogs – She has more experience than Obama – She made the hard decision of keeping her special needs child, etc.
When I pointed out that it was a lot easier to make the decision to keep a Downs Syndrome child if you weren’t the one who had to take care of him 24 hours a day, they seemed truly baffled by my logic. Again, the story of the pregnant teenaged daugther only reinforces their pro-life stand at any cost. All my points and arguments cannot seem to sway their view on the one point that matters to them – They kept the baby. When I tell them I’m glad they have choices, that’s what pro-choice means, they look at me as if I have committed the most grevioius sin. I can see that there is no changing their mind – these people who just days before, felt that mothers were best suited to stay home and raise their children. Go figure.
Palin files ethics complaint against self in ‘troopergate
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/09/03/palin_ethics_complaint.html
johnny’s mad at the media for their attempt that SOMEONE vet this woman, now he’s threatening to pull put of the NBC debate w/ brokaw, after he pulled off CNN because campbell brown was mean to sweet tucker.
wonder what they’ll accuse gwen ifel (sp?) of to peel little sarah off that vice-pres debate….
i love that its gwen, now that cant say the moderator is sexist (but they will anyway)
(from today’s Progress Report, thinkprogress.org)
I love how the republicans are saying “leave Bristol alone, this isn’t about here.” Anyone out there remember when Chaney’s daughter’s sexual orientation was announced to the world? Republicans at the national convention said that if she appeared on stage they would turn their backs to her. No on in the republican party was standing up for her.
I can’t read faster than comments are being posted, so forgive me if I am repeating.
My guess is we have all taken the bait! Notice where we have come from…over the weekend “Trig is not Sarah’s baby” to today “Poor Bristol and Levi.”
I have seen Barack Obama’s birth certificate several times now at several different places.
So…until I see Sarah’s medical records or Trig’s birth certificate, Bristol is either packing the plumpness from her pregnancy with Trig or she is pregnant AGAIN!
I’m not swallowing the time frame offered by the family, the no-show preganacy, Texas Two-Step Cocktail!
And…watch for “grandpa” to start carrying Trig!
Palin files ethics complaint against self in ‘troopergate’
By Lisa Demer
McClatchy Newspapers
Wednesday, September 03, 2008
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wants a state board to review the circumstances surrounding the dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan — taking the unusual step of making an ethics complaint against herself.
Her lawyer sent an “ethics disclosure” Monday night to Attorney General Talis Colberg. The governor asked that it go to the three-person Personnel Board as a complaint. While ethics complaints are usually confidential, Palin wants the matter open.
The lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, also asked the state legislature to drop its own investigation into the Monegan matter. He says the Personnel Board has jurisdiction over ethics.
A senator running the investigation immediately refused.
The 13-page document gives Palin’s view of a controversy that’s dogged her for weeks in Alaska. Questions about whether she or others in her family or administration pressured Monegan to fire her ex-brother-in-law, state Trooper Mike Wooten, are now getting intense national attention with her newfound prominence on the national stage. Republican Sen. John McCain announced Friday that she’s his pick to be vice president.
Under state law, the board must hire an independent counsel for complaints against the governor to determine whether evidence of a violation of the state ethics act exists.
“Governor Palin believes it will find no conceivable violation of the Ethics Act,” her complaint says. She wants the investigation “to put these matters to rest.”
The legislature plans to go forward with its investigation, said Sen. Hollis French, an Anchorage Democrat and former state prosecutor who is project director for the case.
That investigation isn’t just examining potential abuse of power by the governor, but also others in her administration, French said.
“We’re going to proceed. If they want to proceed, that’s perfectly within their right but it doesn’t diminish our right to do so,” he said.
The legislature’s special counsel Steve Branchflower so far has not been able to depose either Palin or her husband, Todd. Van Flein indicated the governor likely will not agree to a deposition unless lawmakers turn the matter over to the Personnel Board.
“Assuming you agree to submit to proper jurisdictional process, we can check the governor’s schedule to see when she and the first gentleman are available for an interview,” Van Flein wrote.
He also warned that all communications need to go through the lawyers. He said he had recently learned that Branchflower tried to call Todd Palin directly “on a secure and confidential line. This represents a serious security breach that we may be obligated to report to the Secret Service.”
This isn’t the first time Palin has lodged a complaint that went before the state Personnel Board.
In late 2004, the former Wasilla mayor joined then state Rep. Eric Croft, an Anchorage Democrat, to seek an investigation into whether then Attorney General Gregg Renkes broke the law through his investments in an energy company that stood to benefit from a state trade deal.
In the days after he resigned in February 2005, Renkes settled with the board and the Palin-Croft complaint was dismissed.
Tom Daniel, an Anchorage labor and employment lawyer hired by the board in the Renkes case, took a quick look at Palin’s complaint Tuesday.
“It appears that the governor has filed an ethics complaint against herself. … This is very unusual because ethics complaints typically are filed against others,” Daniel wrote in an e-mail responding to a Anchorage Daily News query.
Asked whether the personnel board could take the investigation away from the legislature — as Palin wants to do — Daniel answered: “I’ve never looked at that issue, but I can’t see why filing a complaint with the personnel board would deprive the legislature of the right to conduct its own investigation.”
The ethics disclosure echoes points made in a four-page backgrounder on the Wooten matter released by the McCain/Palin campaign. Did Van Flein write the background paper on Wooten for the campaign? He didn’t answer that question when asked in an e-mail Tuesday evening.
Wooten was married to Palin’s sister, Molly McCann, and as recently as this summer, they were still struggling over child custody and visitation.
Among key claims in Palin’s complaint:
—Special Agent Bob Cockrell of the governor’s security detail told Todd Palin to let Monegan know about Wooten’s threats against Chuck Heath, who is Palin’s father and was Wooten’s father-in-law.
—Monegan never told the governor or Todd Palin that Wooten had been disciplined over complaints brought by the family that included tasering his stepson, illegally shooting a moose and telling others that Heath would “eat a f—-ing lead bullet” if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce. Wooten ultimately was suspended for five days by troopers but the family says they only learned that when the conflict spilled into public after Monegan’s firing. In her complaint, Palin calls the suspension “a slap on the wrist.”
—Recently, Wooten’s supervisor intervened when he wouldn’t return the children after a visit, the complaint says. Wooten warned his ex-wife he was going to get her and Palin, the complaint says. “There is evidence suggesting that Wooten was following the governor,” it says.
Palin is facing another ethics complaint, filed by a former state employee and political activist alleging her office used improper influence to award a state job.
Van Flein is a private lawyer with expertise in employment law hired by the Department of Law because of a potential conflict of interest by Attorney General Talis Colberg, who had contacted Monegan about Wooten. Van Flein is representing the governor’s office though some Palin staff have their own lawyers.
Van Flein donated to Palin’s campaign for governor in 2006, but he also donated to Democrats.
sosad (07:34:58) :
How many of you knew that one third of the VP’s have taken office ?????
That’s a 35% chance she will be in charge ,,not taking into account his health and age ..
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AND as someone else pointed out on another blog, when VP’s have to step in to take over, the country is in a CRISIS. Think LBJ when JFK was assassinated, or Jerry Ford taking over for Nixon.
Those two examples should sober up a lot of people!
i am so over hearing about how any of these knuckleheads is any kind of hero for keeping their baby.
huh?
doesn’t that imply a choice?
why was there ever a choice? people like that need to say “oops” and start getting a nursery together. what choice is EVER considered?
i don’t get it.
every time they say it, i think: choice is a good thing then, right?
julie az- john dean wrote a really good book about those folks. they have the ‘authoritarian” mind, want to be told what to do, say. authority says it so it must be true, etc. i think he said about 30% of people are just that wired that way no matter what logic is put in front of them. sorry to john dean for errors in condensation and memory.
i think bristols baby should be called Katrina.
Ana Gama – Excellent point
The reason I want one of you Alaskans to come forward to prove Palin was Miss Congeniality and that Levi may have more than one kid, is that this kind of “lying” or “fraud” will be what brings her down. You can paint a pig white but it’s still a pig. The pregnancy of Bristol was first raised by a commenter on this blog (Thanks Sue Williams!) So that’s why these two comments raised here (or somewhere else) may have validity.
I’m willing to leave Bristol and Trig and even Levi out of the picture. But SP’s judgment and priorities and McCain’s are fair game.
Her failures of judgment include that trip from Dallas back to Alaska, and putting her own political ambitions ahead of the very real needs of her family. Given that she had legitimate reasons to reply, ‘Thanks, but no thanks” to McCain, she would not have relegated her daughter and infant son to her own political ambitions. In fact, putting family first should have endeared her to the GOP base and in no way made her less appealing to them in a future campaign.
Similarly, that John McCain would select someone so exquisitely unqualified as his running mate, and apparently with little or no vetting, speaks volumes about his judgment and decision-making processes. It also speaks loudly as to the question of personal ambition vs. country first.
McCain’s people have issued a new statement:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/mccains-new-palin-strateg_n_123527.html
“McCain’s New Strategy – Blame the Media”
“This nonsense is over,” declared senior campaign adviser Steve Schmidt in a written statement.
The statement stood out for its admission that Palin is under siege _ it condemns “this vetting controversy” _ and for its attempt to blunt questions about how rigorously McCain and his campaign explored the background of a candidate who may get the nation’s second most powerful job. It also suggested that Palin is a victim of gender bias in the media.
“The McCain campaign will have no further comment about our long and thorough process,” Schmidt said, lashing out at “the old boys’ network” that he says runs media organizations.
~more at link~
Ana Gama
That’s the kind of thing we should be talking about . All this baby stuff is getting me so t-d off I am about to go ahead and concede my vote to McCnut.
See If I can do a charge back on the money I just sent Obama , waste of money if all these people want to talk about is baby’s ..
Let’s here about some facts on paper ,, like 35% chance she will take office .. Like her husband (on paper) was in AIP .. AIP pisses me off and no one (NO ONE) will talk about it ..
Not long ago in us history AIP talk would be a hanging offence(or a civil war) .. No one has ever been hung for having baby’s
Please mudflats start something on AIP ,I want to hear about that , I want to talk about that ..
pupule
I feel the same way about daddy holding his (so called) son.
I noticed that right from the start, Bristol is the only one you ever see holding Trig out in public…….
Because he is the granddaddy……..thats y
PalinGate:
“Let us see who the real Sarah Palin is.”
You won’t See it tonight, if you watch, the speech is being written and re-written by the insiders of the GOP who are now fully in control of McCain and this campaign, every word out of her mouth tonight will be like listening to whittle bushy, Written For Her!!
The only thing she may bring to it is she probably won’t sound like bushy, who when he reads these speeches one gets the feeling it’s the first time he’s heard the facts, that is if he’s even listening to himself!
Call me crazy but I have a theory that Trig’s father is Track Palin, who is heading to Iraq. I think the mother is an older woman, which would explain the Down Syndrome.
And here’s where it gets weird, follow me on this: Have you seen the photos of Sherry Johnston, Levi’s mother? http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=sherry+johnston&c=news_photos
She’s another “MILF” as the kids say. And she’s Trig’s real mother.
Crazy, huh? It would explain how quickly they grabbed Levi Johnston to be the stooge in the spotlight all of a sudden.
Seriously, if Bristol was really planning to marry Levi, what’s the delay? Waiting for a White House wedding?
sosad, I agree. Well, I’d never vote for McCain, but there are more important issues that should be covered.
Oh, she WILL give a terrific speech tonight. No question at all. She looks great and is a great performer and will do everything she is asked to do without batting an eyelash.
She could stand up and read a cookbook and the media would pronounce it a home run. The McCain campaign is run by a Rove operative who is playing the oldest trick in the book: attacking the media, thereby forcing them to give fawning coverage to prove their “balance.” Just wait. The reviews of tonight’s speech are baked in the cake.
But I don’t think it will matter, because that church of hers is going to scare the hell out of Jews, who hold the balance in Florida.
As for whether Sarah Palin is Trig’s mother, it’s old news. The mainstream media won’t touch it with a 10-foot pole, so we’ll just have to wait and see what the National Enquirer tells us. Personally, I doubt that Trig is Bristol Palin’s child. In a different thread here (“In the Land of Palin”) I laid out my reasons for that view.
sosad: we’re talking about that too, aren’t we?
look how they hunted bill clinton for everything ever done or fabricated in arkansas. what almost brought him down? a bj!
i think the supermarket tabloids are the most damaging, as pathetic as that is.
remember valerie plame? wmd’s? a missing 8 Billion? binladen wanted dead or alive? too much to list! what does stick with these people? actual crimes? i wish.
i think the usweekly cover is very damaging to the low-info voter.
Turn on your TV, folks. Coming in are the first images of Bristol and her baby-daddy, Levi.
Cynthia, TX (08:10:36) :
Lola, a group of hired nannies
The secret service security detail. Your tax dollars at work.
Call me crazy but I have a theory that Trig’s father is Track Palin, who is heading to Iraq. I think the mother is an older woman, which would explain the Down Syndrome.
Hoo boy, now THAT is something that never occurred to me. “Holy Oedipus, Batman!” No wonder they shipped him off to the Army!
For your bookmark collection, here are photos of Palins and Johnstons pulled from MySpace and other websites:
http://s384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/theneelster/
Not my Photobucket files, by the way, just passing the link along.
PalinGate (09:00:56) :
Great… Here comes the Alaskan version of K-Fed…
Turn on your TV, folks. Coming in are the first images of Bristol and her baby-daddy, Levi.
Oh, by the way, I wouldn’t put it past the Republican Christofascists to stage some sort of Precious Moments Re-Engagement ‘n Secondary Virginity spectacle for those kids.
RE: Sosad
You are right, McCain had to know this was going to happen. And where has all the media coverage gone, to Sarah. Is anyone talking about his age any more? Is anyone talking about him at all? Nope! It is all Sarah, all the time. When everyone goes to the polls in Nov. the only name they will know is Sarah. The media needs to get off of the family and back onto McCain. Yes, it is awful what she has done to her kids (drag them from Wasilla to the national media) but it is time to refocus and really look at what is important, granted I think her decision to allow her pregnant teenage daughter be bombarded by the media was a poor one, and I do think this reflects on her, the focus has got to get back to McCain. Or at least focus on what she has and hasn’t done. Someone needs to look at all the money that came into Wasilla. Also, it would be great if someone would take a look at the rest of the wonderful (I mean that sarcastically) governor’s state, the BUSH! Let’s take a look at what she has done for rural Alaska!
Cindy McCain is wearing a beehive on top of her head today, just like Sarah’s! Do we have competition between the office wife and the housewife?
Does Sarah actually ever hold Trig? Does anyone else find that strange?
Ugh – thank you for making my day! It’s been quite some time since I’ve heard the name Ann Coulter. How’s her adams apple doing? Even mann Coulter is more qualified to be VP than is Sarah Palin.
How old is this Levi character? I’ve seen anything from 20 to 25. If he’s 20, then there’s probably no statutory violation according to the Alaska laws I’ve been able to view. Fortunately, he did his deed in Alaska where the laws are more allowing for older boys (men, biologically) to get it on with young teenage girls. Statutory rape? Not in Alaska! Even if there was, mommy wouldnt push for it because it might crimp her political ambitions.
Why is he going to the RNC? Is there a purpose to him being there? What’s he going to do, compare penis sizes with Newt Gingrich?
As for the comments about Track and his hockey playing – have you all forgotten the case in Reading, MA, a few years ago when one hockey dad beat another hockey dad to death at the arena? There was another case of hockey dad rage in MA – this time where the one guy was released from jail towards the end of July. Hockey parents are the worst of the worst of sports parents. Sarah Palin wears it like a badge of pride but when someone describes themselves as a “hockey mom” I think back to Chris Nilan’s father and how absolutely awful he was. A total jackass and boor.
But this could be fun. Imagine that Levi Johnston becomes a page. Barney Frank says hello to him. Or maybe Larry Craig taps his foot in the bathroom. Mommy dearest, aka VP Sarah Palin, goes bezerk. She grabs her hockey stick and starts hitting everything that moves. Picture that. Embarrassed now? Just wait. …
SoSad,
The AIP thing is taking off. How do I know? My dad called me last night enraged! He’s in his 70’s and always has been a McCain fan. He saw the AIP mention on CNN and it totally PISSED HIM OFF! He is likening it to treason. He thinks “that old coot has lost his mind!” (He also lost my dad’s vote!)
I think the baby story is getting more play because the press is still working to document everything else. I understand your concern, I am concerned too!
The Repubs totally mismanaged bringing this total unknown woman and her family into the national – and INTERNATIONAL – spotlight. Shame on them!!
talking points aside, do the conservatives really think this is a good role model?
did any of these kids even finish high school?
and i am curious about the deal track made that put him in the army….
go Enquirer! (arghhh!)
Sarah holds baby Trig occasionally. I imagine she’s careful to avoid baby spit-up on her TV clothes. But I have never seen one photo of Todd Palin holding Trig.
If McCant is elected, the White House will turn into the worst reality show EVER. The White House would make “The Real World” look like the History Channel.
I was watching CNN and they brought up an interesting point. The McCain camp wants it both ways. Wants the media to back off of the kids , saying it is a private matter. But wants to parade those kids around in public. Considering it is cool and windy in the twin cities, especially by the airport (which is in Minneapolis by the way), shouldn’t you have something on that baby’s head?
Can someone please look into why Track spent his senior year in MI? I read that somewhere and I would like to know why he wasn’t here in AK playing hockey for his hockey mom?
Ana Gama (09:08:04) :
The Repubs totally mismanaged bringing this total unknown woman and her family into the national – and INTERNATIONAL – spotlight. Shame on them!!
Shame on Sarah Palin! SHE brought her own family into this and fed them to the wolves. She could have gracefully turned down the VP nod and chosen family over personal ambition, but she instead chose to throw her defenseless daughter under the bus. Despicable.
Headline on MSNBC.com:
“McCain: Stop questions on Palin’s background”
For real! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26527513/
Seems he’s getting a bit testy.
I’ve only been able to find one picture of her holding that child, and one other of Todd holding him. Sorry, but spit-up would not prevent me from holding my baby. Throw a towel over your shoulder, and suck it up. She’s not the only mother out there with both a baby and a profession. I don’t think this is good for her balancing act claim, myself.
Here is the link to an English version of the Dutuch Article.
From the article;
“Israel’s daily Ma’ariv reported Aug. 29 that Israel has made an independent decision to attack Iran if diplomacy fails to halt its nuclear program.”
Now that , Israel can count on Sarah Palin to put Isreal’s interests before America’s?
LaughingAT – That’s what I am trying to get across , who Care’s about baby’s and blow jobs ??? the president should have someone on the staff that gives him one everyday so he can just go to fricken work without distractions.
You want to get the other side pissed baby’s will not do it .. It has to be an issue like AIP ,, true or not ,, get the red necks even thinking her husband is an American hating AIP and it will take off like a rocket . Everyone tell a red neck that her husband is a flag burning AIP .. Hates America so very much he wants Alaska to be it’s own country .. And “she” sleeps with him !!!!!
This is why repubs win this kind of thing , spineless Dem’s just won’t do it .. someone photoshop her husband standing on a us flag with his AIP badge on and pass out fliers at the closest country and western bar and see what happens..
An Alaskan Republican (09:13:49) :
Can someone please look into why Track spent his senior year in MI? I read that somewhere and I would like to know why he wasn’t here in AK playing hockey for his hockey mom?
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Most of us are down here in the lower 48. If you’re in AK, take on this mission.
(Honestly, though, what difference would the answer make?)
So here’s my question: the McCain camp either knew nothing about Bristol –and Palin felt the potential rewards of being VP were worth sacrificing her underage, pregnant daughter to inevitable, harsh public scrutiny?
or…
McCain did know about the pregnancy, and *he* didn’t care either?
the article in question spoke about the US preparing for the attack within weeks, and the dutch leaving so they don’t get blown away by unmanned vehicles
The Republicans are telling high school girls all over the county “if you want to marry your boyfriend, just have him knock you up.”
Ana Gama
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWoooooo HHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOoooo!!!!!!!
The best news I have herd all day !!!!!!! Fantastic ,, people press the AIP thing as hard as you can … Like Ana’s dad I am outraged !!!!! It’s treason ,,, AIP is treason !!!!! get the rope !!!!!
Tammy – yer a smart cookie. They want it both ways, but then isn’t that how Sarah Palin is being portrayed, i.e., a reformer when in fact she has been great buddies with Stevens and received campaign contributions from the same oil company, or how she’s portrayed as someone who stands on her own two feet when in fact she’s been busy nuzzling on the teat of federal earmarks?
Hypocrits. The whole bunch of them.
Ky – I absolutely agree. My guess is that Sarah Palin hasn’t really had too much experience doing things a mother does. Afterall, she’s been busy pursuing her political ambitions and working out to pay attention to what’s going on at her house. Her mother does all that, trying not to repeat the mistakes she made with Sarah.
This whole thing is 2000, 2004 all over again, Rovian tricks once again. And now the pot-kettle thing with the media. Oh, yes, the ‘elitist media’ controlled by whom? Rupert Murdoch? Give me a break.
Looking forward to the liveblogs later today. Unfortunately, it seems much of the country will be taken in by the ‘values’ issues once again. Is it really true that 35% of the time Vice Presidents have assumed presidential duties, one way or the other? That is a mind-blower. Also Vice is president and tie-breaker of the Senate.
Maybe this is what her pastor was ‘praying over’ in that video….hmmm….
Agree with the many analyses of the baby/family body language above. Where are the documents to answer the questions? Isn’t tampering with those records breaking the law?
Check out the video, etc. of the VP announcement on McCain’s daughter’s blog.
http://www.mccainblogette.com/index.shtml
sorry, this may be indelicate, but if sarah doesn’t believe in family planning, how do we know she won’t have another high-risk pregnancy in office? i know its unbelievably intrusive, but its the same reason the press looks at candidates medical records. we have a right to know if she is in a position where it DOES matter.
White Agate,
OBAMA is rising in the polls!!
Ana gama –
the most hardcore hockey parents will send their boys to specialized hockey schools to get more notice from college recruiters. Could that be an explanation? What would help is the MI school is identified by name. We could then google it and see if it has a web page. Most private schools do as having a web presence helps with their new-student recruiting efforts. And a web page will also tell us what the school’s mission is, i.e., hockey school vs. behavior correction emphasis.
A must read new article: US women voters turned off by Palin’s pick: poll
Here’s the l ink.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g10yMHTRWB1ghQ8OLKEKxdHvWiQQ
Agreed Tammy, little Trig’s head is gonna get cold here in the midwest. One more poor parenting decision by the Palin’s.
And poor Bristol, she’ll pry have to be the one to take care of sick Trig.
Also, I completely agree with so many of you that what the Palin’s are doing is exploiting their children and Mista Levi. It’s a double standard. There young parents to be that have been thrown under the bus by an woman driven by raw ambition. It’s sick. And anyone that calls them on it is going to branded as “spreading liberal lies.” Opened the New York Times today to read an editorial claiming that Obama and Democrats need to leave the Palin’s and their children alone. Also, that it was shameful for Democrats to “make this an issue.”
Ignorance will be the downfall of this nation.
Let me try that post again, I tried using the tags.
Dutch recall spy from Iran fearing U.S. attack
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/110167.html
Palin at AIPAC: That Didn’t Take Long
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/02/palin-at-aipac-that-didnt-take-long/
From article: Putin Walks into a Trap
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Putin-Walks-into-a-Trap-by-Mike-Whitney-080814-448.html
“The war games included a US Navy supercarrier battle group, an US Navy expeditionary carrier battle group, a Royal Navy carrier battle group, a French nuclear hunter-killer submarine plus a large number of US Navy cruisers, destroyers and frigates playing the “enemy force. The lead American ship in these war games, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN71) and its Carrier Strike Group Two (CCSG-2) are now headed towards Iran along with the USS Ronald Reagen (CVN76) and its Carrier Strike Group Seven (CCSG-7) coming from Japan.”
A must read new article: US women voters turned off by Palin’s pick: poll
Here’s the link.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g10yMHTRWB1ghQ8OLKEKxdHvWiQQ
want to make a difference ??? Print up some AIP info with palins picture as a cover page and set it on the bar of your local American legion … They will not take kindly to traitors and can talk all day long about it ..
ana- YAY! i heard we broke 51% in one of them.
the national polls look close, but fivethirtyeight has a nice electoral count for obama. i think the palin move is to keep NC, GA, maybe CO and other high fundie states that are potentially in play. VA was looking good, but this could change things.
Someone above asked about Track Palin going to school in Michigan.
Here’s a Detroit newspaper article about it:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080829/NEWS15/80829051/0/NEWS15
“Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.” If this weren’t so sad I’d be falling on the floor laughing.
Thanks LaughingAt…
“Track Palin’s playing ended soon after he injured his shoulder, and he returned to Alaska for surgery, the coach said.”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080830/NEWS01/808300385/1215/NEWS15
track spent “most” of senior year in high school in MI
hmmmmmm
DS (09:34:50) :
Someone above asked about Track Palin going to school in Michigan.
Here’s a Detroit newspaper article about it:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080829/NEWS15/80829051/0/NEWS15
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Sorry, I just see no relevance to this as far as Sarah being qualified to be VP.
QUICK! Call the Waaaahhhhmbulance…
So young Levi and his soon bride-to-be were just ‘introduced’ to
cable news viewers on the tarmac in St.Paul’s airport. The whole
famdamly was there and McCrazy was shaking Levi’s had and
saying God know’s what to this bewildered looking kid.
Levi’s inner thoughts:
So this is John McQueen? He’s totally an old dude?
McOldDude is thinking:
You horny little shit, how could you do this to ME?
Once I’m in office I’m shipping your dumb ass off to Iraq where you’ll be in charge of difusing IED’s.
Sarah I’m so F’n Cool’s mental meanderings:
Smile kids, we’re on TV !!
Bristol- button that jacket damn it- what did I tell you about emabarassing
ME on TV!!!!! Wow! This is all just so cuellllll. I’m on NATIONAL TV!!!! Take
that Miss Alaska 1982! I told you I’d kick your skinny ass and here I am on
TV!!!! OMG I hope she’s wartching me on TV!!!! That is if she even has one, that ignorant whore. She only won because her daddy knew the judges! Just forget about her I am on TV!!!! OK kids keep smiling. Who’s got the baby? Make sure the camera can see him…maybe I should be holding him? Hmm…
probably not, don’t want those crazy leftists thinking I can’t handle my new job…but then the base might like to see me holding him on TV!!!!!
Ughhh…..
Is it November 4th yet?
Not that it really matters…
http://www.mlive.com/kzgazette/news/index.ssf/2008/08/son_of_alaska_gov_sarah_palin.html
Looks like Track was in MI playing hockey…more exposure there, I guess?
Regardless of Sarah Palin’s bad judgement, lack of experience and/or knowledge and whether it’s good for America or not, are not a criterea for AIPAC’s approval.
Take Bush for example.
The world is watching and I am not sure they are laughing.
Note to Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska: Ee-rak, not Eye-raq
http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2008/09/03/note_to_sarah_palin_governor_of_alaska_ee-rak_not_eye-raq/3661/
From the article:
“We highly recommend that any candidate running for the all-important office of the vice presidency of the United States has a minimum knowledge of foreign policy. We don’t expect the candidates to be a walking encyclopedia of world affairs, although being knowledgeable of world affairs certainly helps. It not only helps in making smart judgements when tackling difficult decisions in office, but it also helps voters to see that the candidate will be as comfortable with foreign policy as he or she is in the perils surrounding in commercial crab fishing in the waters of Alaska.
That knowledge includes being capable of properly pronouncing the name of a country your government currently occupies. It would be the least amount of respect one can show to the people of that country.”
I was just reading some postings over at Fox news, and the general take on things runs something like this:
* Palin is a walking embodiment of family values (actually, FAMILY VALUES).
* It’s despicable the way the liberal media are treating her.
* Liberal Democrats are going after her family only because she has no real weaknesses as a candidate.
* If Palin were a Democrat, the Dems would be treating her like Superwoman.
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Really, it’s like a parallel dimension over there. I had to leave before my head exploded.
yeah swineprincess, crazy, huh? wheres the msm on that?
doesn’t matter, there’s lots o’ rooms at the veeps naval observatory (and white house, shudder the thought)
like all of those hypocrites, the happy couple will have a place to live,
the rest of ’em? post-fetus you’re on your own!
Found your blog yesterday. Keep the news coming, it’s brilliant. My friends and I are outraged. We’re not Alaskans, but concerned West Coast Democrats and Republicans. I personally feel bad that your beautiful state has been put under the worst sort of scrutiny. But on the other hand, if you are willing to air out the dirty laundry, maybe some people with real values will step forward and try to be leaders. Good luck and keep it up.
So wait a minute, while Obama is rising in the polls, I’m saying just don’t underestimate the GOP playbook, it’s still working for a lot of people. But wait a minute, are we going to war with Iran during the convention? Is that what the Dutch post and others say?
bwilder (09:39:22) :
So young Levi and his soon bride-to-be were just ‘introduced’ to
cable news viewers on the tarmac in St.Paul’s airport. The whole
famdamly was there and McCrazy was shaking Levi’s had and
saying God know’s what to this bewildered looking kid.
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You know, if they want the “family” to be out of the limelight, why do they keep putting them front and center?
welcome back rubby.
so the tabloids will be labeled dem too?
with these idiots it takes 1 talking point, and all thought and reason are gone.
sick sick situation.
yes whiteagagte, that’s EXACTLY what it says
Any of you in Fairbanks know the firefighters in this picture? If so, can they affirm that Palin was indeed pregnant with a large belly? This pic was taken days before she gave birth:
http://www.alaskapffa.org/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/view_article.cfm&HomeID=59844
(I already took a screenshot in case it disappears)
Any of you in Fairbanks know the firefighters in this picture? If so, can they affirm that Palin was indeed pregnant with a large belly? This pic was taken days before she gave birth:
http://www.alaskapffa.org/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/view_article.cfm&HomeID=59844
(I already took a screenshot in case it disappears)
Remember McCain had over 6 months to pick a VP….and he comes out with the unvetted & made-for-reality TV Sarah Palin. MCcain’s first major DECISION!
What does this say about McCain’s judgement?
Your answer………………………….
I’m torn between watching the speech and mocking it. or hiding under the bed until it is over because it makes me feel brain dead that our country is going to engage in such a spectacle tonight.
Anyone want to keep score of how many times she says “Nu-Ku-Lar”?
Some sites in Alaska must be getting a lot of unexpected traffic due to Sarah VP nomination.
This blog must have seen alot more traffic recently?
Website with Speeches and Sermons from Palin’s Former Church Shuts Down as Religious Views of Candidate Face Scrutiny
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/website-with-sp.html
OMG! please find the date of that pic!!!
Ana Gama (09:47:01)
You know, if they want the “family” to be out of the limelight, why do they keep putting them front and center?
LOL I was hopin you or someone could answer that one for me.
I guess they want to bring the appearance of respectibilty to
the picture? It just points out that McCucko and his buddies
were caught off gaurd on Friday or they would have had
the daddy there. So instead they threw a blanket and baby brother
over her to hide the ‘shame of it all.’
PalinGate (09:49:42) :
Very nice. Great work on that one.
Great comments, as usual, but can we please quit the Trig conspiracy theories and focus on how convenient it is that Sarah Palin has been completely shielded from media scrutiny since her brief introductory speech last Friday?
Expect the media blackout to continue.
Also: people, please don’t post entire, long articles – the headline (or headline + first paragraph) + a link to the story is much better.
While I feel sorry for Bristol and believe her mother’s handling of this demonstrate’s the mother’s poor judgment, there is more than enough to criticize that has nothing to do with her family.
Let’s look at Sarah Palin’s stand on the issues and how she has handled her own career and adjenda; that is legitimate discussion and plenty damning.
That picture was emailed to me. The firefighters website has a date of “April 15, 2008” – that would be exactly 4 days before baby Trig was born. Surely somebody reading this blog lives in Fairbanks, and can drive up to that Firehouse and ask the firefighters. She would have had a whopping belly at that point.
All we ever need to remember about Mr. “I love George Bush” McCain is what he called the woman (Cindy Lou Who) for whom he dumped his first wife. Coincidentally, the word started with the letter which begins her name Cindy. Just a lovely man! Lol!
Women are obviously just a vehicle for him – people to use to further his own political standings (Cindy Lou Who = $$$$ and Calamity Jane Palin = the self-proclaimed nutter zealots who are about as close to what the good Jesus taught as sewage is to cleanliness).
ATTENTION OBAMA SUPPORTERS!
Please consider that Barack has said the family, and especially the children, are OFF LIMITS! He has specifically requested his supports to not go there!
If you truly believe in this candidate, Barack Obama, then PLEASE STOP.
Lisa Williamson (09:56:12) :
Great comments, as usual, but can we please quit the Trig conspiracy theories […]
No. You are free to quit, though.
[…] how convenient it is that Sarah Palin has been completely shielded from media scrutiny since her brief introductory speech last Friday?
What did you expect? Damage control.
Expect the media blackout to continue.
I wouldn’t call anything even remotely related to Sarah Palin a “media blackout”. More like a media feeding frenzy.
“. Is there a chance that Trig is Bristol’s baby and that she is not really pregnant?”
Look at the photos today where she’s greeting McCain, wearing a blouse tucked into a belted, pencil skirt:
A bit of tummy but not what I’d call a 5 month bump. However she’s busting out of her blouse. She looks more like 4 months post-partum than 5 months pregnant. The dress from 8/30 that caused all the comment is the new baby-doll Empire silhouette that makes anybody look pregnant.
I have seen a couple of pictures of Todd holding Trig. It’s true that he only does it in what looks like a staged photo op. It looks like either Bristol or Willow is in charge of the baby.
i have no issue with her kids, its with her.
did she lie about being pregnant to cover the daughters 1st kid is kindof a reasonable question since there seems to be something amiss. she could end all speculation of course.
also, i send to those media outlets, and not this. only stuff we have real info, like AIP (treason), earmarks, bridges, sermons, etc.
Looks like the campaign had Sarah’s ‘First Dude’ shave his
whiskers! Geez the control of it all. Apparently facial hair
is not a Republican value?
they were all on CNN as they got off the plane in St.Paul…
Ana Gama (10:01:26) :
Your point has been noted. I’m an independent. I’m neither beholden to Obama or McCain. I will continue to unravel this in any direction it takes me.
Obama is right for not going anywhere near this. I applaud that. However, I don’t really care what he says right now. What I care about is the truth. I want to know the real extent to which this demented woman plays her family like chess pieces, and I want to know why anyone could possibly be in support of it.
A Wasilla woman reveals everything you wanted to know about Palin but were afraid to ask:
http://thebruceblog.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/wasilla-woman-tells-everything-you-want-to-know-about-palin-but-were-afraid-to-ask/
Fly,
Do as you wish.
I hope the owner of this blog, who is an Obama supporter, will address his preference for this blog.
“If you truly believe in this candidate, Barack Obama, then PLEASE STOP.”
Obama has taken the high road. Thanks to McCain/Palin, there is a LOT of room up there to move around!
Do you really believe that he wants this or any other potential scandal related to his political rivals to be “off limits”? As long as he keeps his hands out of it and openly demands that his supporters do the same, he will remain on the high road. Democrats and some Republicans will respect him for it.
I agree that there is plenty of fodder for other damaging discussion but the whole babygate story has as much merit as any other “gate”. This whole thing keeps getting curiouser and curiouser…
Leila (10:06:19) ——
It’s a juicy gossip theory but time to let it go. I
personally doubt it’s true and people in Wasilla
that know Sarah Palin say it is in fact her baby- even
people who don’t like her and there are plenty of them.
How about everyone get focused on the arguments
that can be proven- her affiliation with the AIP, her
affiliation with Ted Stevens and his money people.
The fact that when she left her position as Mayor
of the whopping metropolis of Wasilla, AK they were,
for the first time ever in millions of dollars of debt.
Or that she has lied regarding her ‘Troppergate’ story.
These are the things that will in the end, actually have
an impact on the campaign and what gives us the
ammunition to use in fighting back the efforts to frame
her as some sort of Alaskan hero. Obama will
NOT TOUCH the baby stories so let’s use our efforts
and energy to fight the stories that matter in regards
to winning the election.
there are so many other things going on that I have to agree with the folks on this blog that say “enough with the kid(s) thing”.
The things that need to be discussed about Palin have been outlined above… to that I would add that he MinneaPolice are gassing protesters, performing illegal searches, and generally harassing peaceful protesters. Why isn’t this stuff splashed all over the visual media the way it was in 1968? We’ve become so distracted by the Soap Opera that is Palin et al, that we are missing some of the real stories (including the ones about Palin).
Right now media hacks are driving that bus… the blogs need to take over. Scroll back up to Kimber’s post on MSM outlets and get to emailing.
oh — and to the tune of Uptown Girl:
White Trash Girl,
We don’t want you livin in our White House World….
To be fair, I think the Levi Johnston MySpace page was a hoax. You can see a capture of it in google cache.
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:TqTea4LHDUYJ:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friendid%3D410261272+wasilla+myspace&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=kr&client=firefox-a
The clues for me that it was setup were, it conveniently used the same widely available hockey shirt photo for the profile. There were too many Obama campaign posters (for a self described ‘redneck’) and listing Obama as his hero. But the clincher was the MySpace URL: entry was ‘http://www.myspace.com/levijohnsonpalin’ — misspelling ‘Johnston’ as ‘Johnson’ and tagging ‘Palin’ onto it? I don’t see any reason why the actual Mr. Johntson would have done that.
So, I think we need to drop the ‘I’m a redneck’ and ‘I don’t want kids’ accusations.
I misspoke earlier. (09:56:12) : By ‘media blackout’, I meant the dearth of one-on-one interviews with Palin herself.
Great picture PalinGate ! Taken 3 days before she supposedly gave birth, and she is definitely NOT pregnant in that pic !! The Smoking Gun ?!?!?!?
And this quote from above:
“ST. PAUL, Minn. — John McCain’s campaign on Wednesday angrily called for an end to questions about its review of Sarah Palin’s background, deriding a “faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee” for vice president.”
Of course they want the questions to stop — before the media finds out anything else about Sarah !!
MSNBC — turn Keith Olbermann loose — please !!!!
here’s the problem i have,
i look at important issues, all the shenanigans for the last 8 years. how could anyone think this is ok? but yet, there they are, the base.
so i’m thinking i’m too intellectual?? looking at silly little facts.
i never cared about the page-gate florida congressman, or all that stuff. but nothing else sticks in our dumbed-down masses.
i would much rather debate everything on the merits
one of my favorite lines is from larry flynt when he offered $1M to uncover republican senators (vitter!!) involved in affairs:
“larry, you’re such a bottom feeder”
“perhaps, but look who i found when i got there”
Do you really believe that he wants this or any other potential scandal related to his political rivals to be “off limits”?
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Yes, I do. I know Senator Obama personally.
At my house, if young folks aren’t married to each other and want to stay overnight, they sleep in separate rooms. I wonder where Levi will be sleeping tonight. And who is paying for his room? McCain’s campaign?
These people have no sense of propriety.
Visit: http://www.BadChili.blogspot.com
…for the Noise of Texas
BTW, if you don’t trust the link to the cached page, you can google ‘MySpace.com – Levi – 18 – Male – Wasilla, Alaska’ then click on the ‘cached’ link for the first listing.
bwilder (10:13:11) :
Obama will NOT TOUCH the baby stories so let’s use our efforts and energy to fight the stories that matter in regards to winning the election.
Who gives a shit? The National Enquirer will touch it, that’s for sure. I don’t remember anyone crying when they dug up John Edwards’ little secret. I was certainly happy to know the truth.
If you’re an Obama supporter (which you seem to be), then simply focus on the numerous other things, and leave the dirt-digging to people that aren’t beholden to any particular party, like myself.
The fact of the matter remains that this is sticky, and is very relevant to a whole lot of people.
Joe C (10:16:00)
That is a setup site- people do it all the time.
Do a MySpace for Sarah Palin and you’ll see loads of them.
Levi’s site has been taken down and his sister’s site is
now locked although it wasn’t on Monday when I looked
at it and her photos.
Ana-
You can’t have it both ways…like some in politics would have us believe.
Just a couple of posts ago you brought up the “family”. Didn’t your personal relationship with Obama mean anything then?
“You know, if they want the “family” to be out of the limelight, why do they keep putting them front and center?”
Practice what you preach.
Heard on Kudo yesterday. Palin’s son was arrested a year or two ago for vandalizing school buses in the Valley. Where is Sarah and Todd’s parental guidance? Shouldn’t kids from a Christainly home be behaving better? Looks like their too busy being ambitious to pay mind to their kids.
Re: the firefiger picture. I did a print/save article and on the top of the page, it says: Posted On: Jun 11, 2007 (09:54:54)
So, probably not the smoking gun in this case.
A fly on the wall
I do agree that it’s relevant, but it isn’t something that
will help Obama, at least I don’t think it will because
McEveryone is Sexist is going to use it against him
and claim that it’s ‘his people’ promoting it.
So while you have a point and to me it matters because
I think her (Bristol’s) parents are deplorable for putting
their daughter throught this nightmare, the energy it’s
sucking up could be used to dig into Palin’s ethical
and abuse of power history which is something that
could indeed sink her ship.
No offense and I do get it.
Children as such are off-limits, but their parents are not and especially not vice-president wannabe Sarah Palin. I have a feeling there is more to be uncovered about baby Trig that may reflect very poorly on Sarah Palin’s basic trustworthiness. She has previously been exposed as short of honest about multiple issues. Trustworthiness is an issue is very important to our country, especially in light of recent history, unless, of course, you are happy with a continuation of Cheney-style secret powermongering. A key difference is that, in Palin’s case, given her relative age, she would have a real shot to become president sooner or later, whether under her own steam or not. Of course, it matters who gets to be president.
There remain multiple, complex suspect features to this whole Trig episode (to cite a few, the apparently unknown and invisible pregnancy to near the end; the long, multileg flight back to Alaska and then Wasilla under circumstances of incipient labor; the curious photos apparently from the web page of a relation of Levi Johnston, now taken down; and, to sum up, just an overall weird vibe this family has been giving off, at in my eyes, in ways both large and small). Family peccadillos may be routine for ordinary people and not worthy or appropriate of public notice, but not when they may have a central relationship with discerning the candor of a candidate for almost the highest executive office in the country. What seem like intrusive questions about what are ordinarily private matters may be a critical tool for getting at the true nature of the candidate of qualitative value as great as inquiries concerning other matters. Of course, Sarah Palin is unqualifiedly a public figure now and not entitled to draw a veil down just because the questions about her conduct happen to involve family members. So don’t give me B.S. about how everyone should just butt-out; that is simply a tactic to stop the questioning and bury the truth. It would be unfortunate if the inquiry were to be stampeded by Republic media-manipulation, including the possible strawman of Bristol Palin’s more recent and, I must say, rather thinly disguised pregnancy.
So onward to the facts, people, and that includes especially Alaskans, who are now asked to shoulder a responsibility that I am sure was very unexpected, perhaps unwelcome, but critical to their country. Where is Trig’s birth certificate? Will the Governor not authorize unlimited release of certified copies of it by whoever handles vital statistics in Alaska, or are we to take it that she does not have that authority? Will she release her medical records? I mean, after all, why not? Won’t the doubters have egg on their collective faces if their suspicions proved unfounded?
I think Sarah Palin was trying to protect the kids in either scenario (ie trig is sarah’s or bristol is now pregnant) and now it is getting absurd.
Everywhere the Bristol or Levi are mentioned they say Bristol is 17 and Levi 18.
I think that Bristol is 16 or recently was 16 (certainly when she “conceived.”)
I think Levi is 19. That is what he puts on believe *his* myspace page
screenshot in case it disappears
actual link
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=113192646
and the 16 (minor) + 3 year age difference creates a BIG problem in the state of AK.
Bringing Levi Johnston to the convention is the only smart thing the McCain campaign has done since he chose Sarah Palin. The tabloids seem to love him.
Regarding the propriety of it, Levi is over 18, he can make his own decisions. And Bristol… well if she’s old enough to have sex and get married, she’s old enough to walk out on a stage for a few minutes.
This is really the best thing that has happened to either of them. Doomed to a blue-collar life in the boondocks, they now have the opportunity to make something of themselves thanks to this national exposure.
McCain’s New Palin Strategy: Blame The Media
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/mccains-new-palin-strateg_n_123527.html
ST. PAUL, Minn. — John McCain’s campaign on Wednesday angrily called for an end to questions about its review of Sarah Palin’s background, deriding a “faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee” for vice president.
Hey, History buffs: Has there ever been a previous VP with five young children still at home?
Palin thinks Pledge of Allegiance written by Founding Fathers
Sep. 1st, 2008 at 12:05 PMThe Pledge of Allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, and get this – a socialist!
http://mparent7777-1.livejournal.com/1558872.html
Monday, July 31, 2006
2006 Gubernatorial Candidate Questionnaire
The following questionnaire was sent to all candidates for Governor with their responses listed in the order we received them.
***
11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
JB: No.
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
half, opportunity would imply family support, and they are just props at this point.
or they would have gone to the announcement friday, and gone home to school.
Crazy thought…maybe Levi is going to propose to Bristol Palin at the RNC???
“Crazy thought…maybe Levi is going to propose to Bristol Palin at the RNC???”
Oh, the perfect ending to the Fairy Tale!
I’m going to be sick.
I’m getting a little weary of Babygate too, but then again I’ve been following this saga non-stop for the past five days. Eventually, the MSM will focus on Palin’s record and call her out on that. (Thanks, Plwalsh, for posting the NYT editorial. Props to the Gray Lady!) The news for the next few days will focus on Palin’s convention speech and the unbelievable decision to showcase Levi and Bristol. I read that the Republican speechwriters are going to steer Palin off talking about family stuff and onto policy issues. So that’s going to open the door for the MSM to actually question what she says about those topics. The MSM is already probing this stuff; they just need an excuse to print it.
By the way, did anybody notice that the National Enquirer is claiming that they tipped off Palin’s staff that they were going to run with the Bristol pregnancy story, and that Palin did a “pre-emptive strike” by announcing it first?
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sarah_palin_at_war_with_her_daughter_over_pregnancy_wedding/celebrity/65370
That means Palin didn’t release the news to dispel the Babygate rumor; she did it because the world was going to find out anyway, so she wanted to get a swipe at the liberal blogs and smear the Obama campaign at the same time. Brilliant. I had wondered why she didn’t just release Trig’s birth certificate to dispel the rumor, since that would protect Bristol’s privacy and keep focus on herself. Ironically, the announcement has not silenced the rumor. If anything, people want more proof.
As I wrote on the other thread, the focus NEEDS to be on AIP.
Screw the baby(ies) and the teenagers. People make mistakes; lies grow. Think Bree Hodges on ‘Desperate Housewives’! I know, I know: oh, the hypocrisy. As if the Dems haven’t a few skeletons (a-hem Edwards).
The war hero and his treasonous vp… that’s the national story (although, the AK tales are quite something)! Trot that to the local VFA in Montana and SC and see how that goes down. One thing those NRA types love more than their guns is their perceived patriotism.
‘Strategery’, people, ‘strategery’!
AIP hates america ,, that’s the headline I want to see!!!!!!
So young Levi and his soon bride-to-be were just ‘introduced’ to
cable news viewers on the tarmac in St.Paul’s airport. The whole
famdamly was there and McCrazy was shaking Levi’s had and
saying God know’s what to this bewildered looking kid.
“Don’t worry, kid. We’ve got it all planned out.”
“ST. PAUL, Minn. — John McCain’s campaign on Wednesday angrily called for an end to questions about its review of Sarah Palin’s background, deriding a “faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee” for vice president.
“This nonsense is over,” declared senior campaign adviser Steve Schmidt in a written statement.
The statement stood out for its admission that Palin is under siege _ it condemns “this vetting controversy” _ and for its attempt to blunt questions about how rigorously McCain and his campaign explored the background of a candidate who may get the nation’s second most powerful job. It also suggested that Palin is a victim of gender bias in the media.”
Well someone needs to vet her since McCain didn’t.
On a different note, I’m curious if the locals who knew about Bristols pregnancy before it was announced also knew if the couple were planning to get married or was that something just cooked up once Mom decided being VP sounded like a good idea and having an unwed pregnant teen daughter just wouldn’t fly with the rightwing conservative base. I just think any marriage begun at that age for that reason has a lot of strikes working against it.
Everyone, when Palin make her speech tonight…let’s send a message and have all your friends, neighbors, and family go to the below link and make a donation. Let’s send a message!
http://my.barackobama.com/jointhefight
PalinGate (09:49:42)
The timestamp is when the page was updated, not when the picture was taken. I found the same picture here with a caption that reads “E-3 crew (Capt. Davis, Driver White, FF Hamlin) and FFD BC Drygas pose for a picture with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin when she was in Fairbanks last summer.”
Everyone! When Palin makes her speech tonight, let’s all go to Obama’s website and make a donation. Let’s send a message!
http://my.barackobama.com/jointhefight
McCain is a MORON for canceling tonight’s Larry King Live interview. He must have forgotten that WE THE PEOPLE will determine whether or not he gets elected. I will NOT vote for a President who REPRIMANDS freedom of speech.
I will say this…. CNN has my devoted attention for being the ONLY network to ask the hard questions. I hope ALL the readers who are reading this tune into CNN to support free speech.
MDE – great catch.
FACT: During her mayoral administration (of Wasilla) most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners more than they benefited residents.
She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million.
$0.00 to $22 million debt in 6 years !!
Now that’s someone I want running my country — NOT !!
Has anyone seen this punk’s MySpace page? He says, and I quote: “I hate babies.” Whoopsie.
Cydonia – nice catch. That, and the “under God” clause was added in the ’50’s as a Cold War backlash against Godless Pinko Commies. Sheesh, this woman is a barrel of laughs.
Newsflash re: MySpace pages – many of them are fakes. Most of the real ones have already been scrubbed. Even the cached version of Levi’s page is gone (I wonder how that happened so quickly?)
Google: “Hello?”
McCain staffer: “Hi, we need you to purge your cache on a particular page”
Google: “OK”
Think any of us could have achieved such a feat in as little time? Hahahahhahaha
Have been watching Kyra Phillips (CNN) doing fluff pieces from Alaska on “what a great and interesting woman” Miss Sarah is and how she would like to have a cup of coffee with her. So much for media attention to the unsavory details of her past. Go National Enquirer! You may yet get a Pulitizer! Wouldn’t that be a hoot! And no attention being paid to the poor policies of McCain. Polls just said Iowa is 55% for Obama, 40% McCain. In Minm. Obama is 53%, McCain47%. Go Obama! Looks like the VP choice is making a difference…..for Obama!
Did Sarah give up breastfeeding Trig? Didn’t the baby go back to Alaska with the family for a few days while she was in Minnesota? I don’t think breast milk lasts like that.
i agree, kyra is squelching what people are really saying.
i will watch keith, or we’ll keep e/o posted!
I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere, but I looked at Levi Johnston’s My Space page before it was taken off line. It said his hero was Barack Obama and one of his friends was the Obama campaign (or whatever the name is on My Space). I didn’t take a screen shot (wish I had). But I wonder if that’s one of the reasons it was removed from My Space – the young man prefers Obama for president.
To “Realstory”:The Levi Wallner is not the same page that I saw. The Levi page that I saw said he was from Wasilla, Alaska. And it did not say he hates babies. One of his blurbs said he didn’t want children. You are looking at the wrong person’s page.
Should John McCain consider replacing Sarah Palin on the GOP ticket?
Congratulations on a great site. I have spent past few days going back over earlier stories and found it all most interesting. Appreciate the orderliness and the clarity. Open a special bank account number we can donate to.
Thanks for being there and doing a damn fine job.
The height of audacity of the Republican party is that they put an ex-secessionist on the ticket and then claim ‘country first’.
[Sarah Palin was a member of Alaska Independence Party for 2 years in the early 90s.]
The height of audacity of the McCain campaign is that they are going parade this jock, who re-defined the term ‘hockey-mom’, as a role model to the rest of us.
A McCain/Palin ticket would not be more of same exerment, it would be worse!
The beginning of the unraveling
Look for
Oy … Live Mics Are Such Dangerous Things
Peggy Noonan & Mike Murphy
Good work folks, CNN just broke the AIC connection and is talking about the welcome speech video’s she gave to their state convention. Keep it up, even the talking heads can’t do anything but warn about pushback on Obama…”be careful we are going to start mud slinging big time now that you got something on our cute little show piece.” Watch out the big guns also just got rolled out with pictures of Mama packing rapid fire weapons.
So far I’ve seen more of SP packing guns than with poor new baby….what’s up with that?????
@ Canuck
Here is how this will play out – Bristol, more than likely, is the mother of Trig. Palin, who hasn’t been entirely forthcoming, knows how the blogsphere can light up a rumor, even if it’s not based in truth.
Anyhow, she announced it – just to set everyone up. This time, Sarah’s going FTW. She will announce soon that Bristol had a miscarriage and demand the media leave her fam alone. What kind of louse would keep going after something like that? So, with no media looking into the miscarriage, and won’t pursue the Trig angle, end of story. Only one prob – where are the records?
She’s doing this in hopes folks will stop digging. However, if something in your house smells fishy, I’ll be damned if I don’t find out what is causing the odor.
I could see if the Palins or the GOP were really deserving of privacy – but after parading her fam out on stage, with her still hot daughter with her post-delivery baby fat, oh, it’s on. And then – to bring Hayseed into the mix? Get ‘er dun, huh? Classic.
I have had enough of the September, October surprises. I hate surprises and this is ENOUGH.
I hope to awake soon and learn that all this suff about babies and boyfriends has been a bad dream. If not, I may seek residence in another country!
Oh the hypocrisy!
Hey media, please keep our family out of this — but, here is the exact itinerary of our friends, relatives and soon to be son-in-law.
Alaskans know Sarah can give good speech. She will do great on the stage tonight–it’s her life’s ambition. She finally gets to be Miss America! No troubled children are going to stand in her way. Step aside….
[…] Palin’s Future Son-in-Law Heads to GOP Convention? Here are the headlines right now on the Anchorage Daily News website: (God, I love Alaska) […]
You really can’t make this stuff up… there’s more drama here than the ABC Afterschool Special!
If McCain wins after all of this I am officially giving up on the U.S. electorate.
oh my!!!!!
I feel much better!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html
RE the photo at the firefighter website, why does it say “revised 09/03/08” (TODAY!)? What did they update, the date that it was taken??? WHY are they revising a photo that has been up there for a while? What is the real date that it was taken — was it THREE DAYS before Trig’s birth (04/15/08) or back in 2007???
That fact that there is a COVERUP (website scrubbing) is PROOF that something is going on!!
All of you holier than thous can go somewhere else if you don’t like the Babygate discussion. Like it or not, that is what most people are wanting to discuss. Even the MSM has reportedly asked the McCain camp for a copy of Trig’s birth certificate!!
We need ALASKANS to come forward and tell the truth!! Were the rumors that SP was faking her pregnancy really rampant around the AK state legislature?
As for “Anne’s” letter to the editor, I have read it before — it is posted on another thread of this blog. She claims that there is nothing going on, that Trig is really SP’s baby. Not buying that, not buying that at all. The fact that she is lying about that calls “Anne’s” other statements into question as well. “Anne” could be some disinfo agent (they always include nuggets of truth in their BS). Or maybe she just doesn’t KNOW as much as she claims to know.
Finally, if you guys are referring to the black “blog” that is supposedly Levi’s that was a JOKE. It is not real. The original MySpace pages for Mercedes (Levi’s sister) ARE REAL, however. They were captured before they were placed on “private.”
Now there’s an AFFAIR!??
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
So many of you here are so illiterate. Why don’t you hit the books and learn to spell and use proper grammar!
You are pathetic!
Funny video of republicans Noonan and Murphy trashing Palin when they thought their mikes were off. Jon stewart and Stephen COlbert have some great video about the republican flip floppping. Six months ago they accused Hillary of being too sensitive about sexism, that she should be able to take it and now they’re crying that the media is being mean to Palin. They lambasted JOhn Edwards for continuing on his campaign when his wife had cancer…he would be distracted and he’s bad to leave his kids….but it’s great that Palin will leave her FIVE kids and pregnant daughter. There’s alot of footage about how important experience is and that Dem.Kane was mayor of only the 105th largest city but they backpeddle again about how great Palin is for being mayor of city of 7000.
I think New York magazine said it well:
http://tinyurl.com/babydad
New York magazine said it well:
http://tinyurl.com/babydad
Snooper,
This is an informal writing sphere…it’s not unusual to make errors in this arena. Ever use instant messenging? Same rule applies.
After Sarah Palin’s speech last night, I visited the comments on it on CNN.com. A woman there claimed that Track had been sent to school in Michigan to play hockey, but she said the school where he attended did not have a hockey team. She named the town/city, but I didn’t write it down or copy and save the post.
Is anyone familiar with this story?
A cat is a better mother than SP. btw has anyone looked at the timing of SP’s first child. I heard somewhere she eloped. Her anniversary is 8/30 and she mentions that her son had just turned 19 when giving her talk at the Wasilla Assemblies of God on June 8. Anybody know Track’s b’day? Hmm
Good 235rter2rwer23r
Good 235rter2rwer23r
So many of you here are so illiterate. Why don’t you hit the books and learn to spell and use proper grammar!
Snooper…
Grammatially speaking… you shouldn’t use the word ‘so’ twice in the same sentence. Also, eliminate the first ‘and’ in the second sentence, and replace it with a comma after the word ‘books’. A comma after the word ‘spell’ is an arguable point, however.
My apologies to my brethren about feeding this troll. I could not resist.
So many of you here are so illiterate. Why don’t you hit the books and learn to spell and use proper grammar!
Snooper…
Grammatically speaking… you shouldn’t use the word ’so’ twice in the same sentence. Also, eliminate the first ‘and’ in the second sentence, and replace it with a comma after the word ‘books’. A comma after the word ’spell’ is an arguable point, however.
My apologies to my brethren about feeding this troll. I could not resist.
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