Gallup Asks About Palin. 2 Out of 10 Republicans Need to Detox.

23 11 2008

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It’s a lazy, slow news day here on the Last Frontier.   I did, however, find some interesting Gallup poll numbers which are shown above.

That’s right.  When Republicans contemplate the woman who has the highest negatives of any prominent member of their party, the one who lost the election for John McCain, and the one who finds new and innovative ways to push the limits of embarrassing behavior on an almost daily basis, what do they think?  Almost 8 out of 10 of them think to themselves, “Why THAT’s the gal for me!”   I can’t help but think that the other 2 out of 10, those I like to refer to as the “sane” Republicans, have to be doing some major soul searching about now.

I picture them all stricken, walking out of their houses in the morning, getting in their cars and driving for a long time to somewhere out in the desert.  There, they fast and drink only spring water for two days, as they cleanse themselves of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.  After much burning of sage and other mysterious detoxifying rituals, they emerge from their vision quest with the solemn understanding that their party has abandoned them, and they are faced with the realization that in order to achieve inner and outer harmony, they must become Independents or Democrats, or perhaps for the adventurous few, Whigs.   And with a sad, nostalgic and disbelieving look, they take one final glance back at the 8 out of 10, and leave them to collapse under the weight of their own delusion.

But that’s just me.


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23 11 2008
bPoint

hi

23 11 2008
SoCal Bob

It is a sad day in Republicanville when their hopes of a future winner are pinned to the likes of Sarah Palin. I think they have pretty much reached the bottom of the barrel if she is truly their future candidate. Sorry Sarah, but as the polls point out, you just don’t have what it takes.

23 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Oh look. Democrats are a bit more against her than repugs are for her.
If 20% of Dems are for keeping her in the game… it has to be for the likelihood she’ll drag the GOP down.

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

The horror; the horror.

A reminder we must follow through with all the Palin-Gates.

2 out of 10 Republicans need detox but if we play our cards right, 2 out of 10 Republicans will need Botox in 2012: Palin and Bachmann. snark, snark. (sorry.)

23 11 2008
Tess In TX

Let’s see if their preference changes over the next year or so as Palin runs her mouth in a series of interviews that are bound to be dissected and found full of “Palinese”, contradicting stories and even more ‘turkey’ photo ops that are bound to sink her in time to come.

I’m so counting on the AK legislature to do it’s job and investigate each and every one of the ‘-Gates’ that Palin has waiting for her when January rolls around. I hope they start with their findings regarding unethical behavior and that that stone gathers moss along the way. Maybe then some of those 8 remaining Republicans will look to a more qualified candidate.

23 11 2008
Millie

Please Sarah Palin need to go and sit down and learn something. Her mouth is running and nothing make’s sense coming out of it. They are all crazy if they want her for the President.

23 11 2008
Irishgirl Rosebud.

Akm, midnite in Ireland. I agree with whatever you have said.🙂

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

those people are sooo……I have run out of words for repugs…say it an’t so joe

23 11 2008
Mollys Mum

I’m really torn between wanting her to disappear off the face of the earth yesterday and praying she’ll hang around and end up running in 2012, because nothing could assure Obama a second term more forcefully. I cannot imagine a way in the world this particular sow’s ear (or lipstick) could ever be transformed into a silk purse (or undies). Give a party enough rope……

23 11 2008
Irishgirl Rosebud.

mhrt, makes a good point

23 11 2008
Miemaw from Texas

Nah – AKM.

What they did was all pool their money, and make a thank you commercial to be shown on the tv.

I guess Pat Robertson wasn’t on that day.

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

when You look all all ameican …..still scaryllll……look how close it is

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

mollys mum…….my gradma use to say that…….have not heard it in a long time

23 11 2008
Irishgirl Rosebud.

mhrt, try to sound sensible, I just quoted you.🙂

23 11 2008
Lulu

I’m with the Republicans on this. PLEASE RUN HER. PLEASE RUN HER. PLEASE!!!!
GOP, CAN YOU HEAR ME?? Yes, and while you’re at it, PLEASE KEEP WASTING GOP AD $$$ thanking her! Perfect! Drain your PAC coffers on her with gratitude!🙂

I can’t wait for Mitt, Mike H., Fred T., Bobby J. and Newt G. to debate her in the 2012 primaries and think of all the GOP $$$ which will be splintered if she runs (not to mention how much her clothes, stylists, and vocabulary/speech coaches will cost….). Yes, PLEASE GOP, I’m begging you….

If she runs, it’s a guarantee of 8 years of President Obama!

23 11 2008
Irishgirl Rosebud.

mrht, don’t mind me.

23 11 2008
Lacy Lady

I can’t believe that Oprah, Leno, Letterman and others are wanting Sarah on their show. Does she know it’s because she is a screwball and is good for a laugh or two?
Not to change he subject, but just got this receipe for the holidays. If she is going to be on TV for the next few months, we just might want to make a batch to eat while viewing.

This is the time of year I like to share my
Christmas cookie recipe with everyone….I am sending this now so all of
you can get an early start on your baking. I hope you enjoy it as much as
I do. Cheers….and Merry Christmas

Jose Cuervo Christmas Cookies

1 cup of water
1 tsp baking soda
1 cup of sugar
1 tsp salt
1 cup of brown sugar
1 cup lemon juice
4 large eggs
1 cup nuts
2 cups of dried fruit
1 bottle Jose Cuervo Tequila

Sample 1 level cup of the Cuervo to check the quality. Take a
large bowl, check the Cuervo again, to be sure it is still of the highest
quality, pour another level cup and drink.

Turn on the electric mixer. Beat one cup of butter in a large
fluffy bowl. Remove butter paper wrapper from bowl.

Add one teaspoon of sugar..Beat again. At this point it’s best
to make sure the Cuervo is still OK, try another levelel cup ..just in
case.

Turn off the mixerer thingy. Break 2 eggs and add to the bowl
and chuck in the cup of dried fruits, Pick the frigging fruit off floor…
Mix on the turner. If the fried druit gets stuck in the beaterers just
pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the Cuervo to check for
tonsisticity.

Next, sift two cups of salt, or something. Who giveshzasheet.
Check the Jose Cuervo. Now shift the lemon juice and strain your nuts. Add
one table. Add a spoon of sugar, or somefink. Whatever you can find.
Greash the oven.

Turn the cake tin 360 degrees and try not to fall over. Don’t
forget to beat off the turner. Finally, throw the bowl through the
window, finish the Cose Juervo and make sure to put the stove in the
dishwasher.

CHERRY MRISTMAS

For those who don’t know, there is a recipe thread over on the Forum to share favorite recipes. I’m sure there will be many this time of year! AKM

23 11 2008
austintx

She is as dumb as a dirt sandwich……..

23 11 2008
drchill

Its not just you.

Some of us wonder what kind of spell she has on some of the country, and hope that the disgruntled republicans find a way to somewhere else, somewhere that doesn’t support the ideology that doesn’t square with the facts. Things like – the GOP isn’t fiscally conservative, they are for deficit spending.
They don’t care about the debt the burden on those who will have to pay it and the debt service.

Anyone suggesting that pay as you go is a good idea is painted as a tax and spend liberal… ( Liberal !!!) Oh my god, open minded people who think government has a role in – “Promoting the general welfare”

Some of these people will need major de-programming. Cognitive dissonance is a tough thing to deal with, and people who have devoted and sacrificed for a bad idea, will have a tough time ahead.

Consider those who signed up for military service. Consider those who signed up for the financial inducements, and lost a limb, and their sense of calm.
Will they hold on to the talk of brave patriotic defense of American freedom, or face up to the lie that is the Iraq war, and the sacrifice made for a bad idea.

There are less dramatic but immensely stubborn people who will have a hard time letting go of the idea that the GOP represented something true real and honorable.

I’m hoping the ridiculous spectacle of Sarah Palin will help make the transition easier.

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

Irishgirl….but sarah is my aunt…….kidding

23 11 2008
lonewolf a.k.a. Luger Otter Palin

I frankly don’t believe that poll. I just don’t see or comprehend that there are *that* many totally stupid and ignorant Republicans.

She lies as easily as she breathes .. and contradicts herself, often within seconds, with the same ease.

Was Gallup’s poll base all male?? No offense, guys, but the high heels and short skirt in near sub-zero weather has to say something.

And I guess one of the things that sticks in my mind is her professing to be a ‘Christian’ .. when everything she does flies in the face of the principles of true faith. And given that’s the case, why do 70+% of the Republicans .. a good percentage also her ‘brand’ of Christian, support her? Well, those like her I can understand, but the rest????

From what I hear, she’s getting requests from all the major talk shows .. something about a movie .. book deals. While Obama is going to bring sanity and pride back to this country, the lunatic fringe is sure doing their part to destroy it.

23 11 2008
HudsonElizabeth

Hope this makes it as it is my first attempt to make a comment. Love this blog and read it several times a day. Anyway, last night I was watching “Akellah and the Bee” (hope I have her name spelled correctly). At the end of the movie, when they were on the last two words, one of the two finalists had to spell “logorrhea”. The definition given seemed totally to describe the incoherent Gov. Sarah Palin. So, I just did some googling and found this: “Logorrhea” is “excessive and often incoherent talkativeness or wordiness” — as defined on Merriam-Webster Online Dictonary. And, it gets more interesting: several of the sites mentioned that logorrhea is a common symptom of bipolar mania, occuring in 89% of cases. (per http://bipolar.about.come/od/glossary/g/gl_logorrhea.htm) Could this be why those medical records are still hidden? Pretty scary!

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

@ HudsonElizabeth (14:25:43) : welcome

23 11 2008
Lee

AKM: Lies dam lies and statistics.

I believe this was a case of improper sampling. I think a poll of the focus on the family membership would give you these results. The Republican party,however, is a more diverse group, and unless they took a large sample out of this diverse group the poll is invalid.

Republicans want to be in power, and they want someone who is smart enough to keep them in power. This woman does not fit the criteria.

23 11 2008
Jane in Ohio

I, too, an upset at the “all Americans” category. I was just beginning to think that I could travel out of the states now and hold my head high rather than mumbling and hoping that no one recognized my American accent. Good grief the world has to look at us and think “what boobs these folks are”. I couldn’t believe the turkey interview when I watched it. Can you imagine that McCain, Biden, Clinton, or Obama would have allowed such an interview???? I must admit, it was educational…kind of like watching a firing squad in action for the first time, but other than that, it was a thoughtless piece with a chowder head being interviewed.
I checked my county stats and all the counties around me went 2/3 McCain-Palin. Everyone around here is freaking out, buying guns, making sure they’ve got insurance all worked out (’cause you know what socalized medicine is going to do….right??), and stocking up on everything circa the late 50’s when we were building bomb shelters. Hateful e mails are being sent like crazy telling us that the “end of days” is near and the anti-Christ has come. I asked my boss if he thought the anti-Christ might be wearing a skirt instead? They’re nuts. Does this sound like the republican Alaskans or are all the crazies in Ohio?

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

When you look at
All Americans
45% yes
52% no
that is way to close

23 11 2008
HudsonElizabeth

mrht oregon,

Thanks! Guess that means I was successful. Yeah!!!!!! T’was easier than I thought it would be.

23 11 2008
Mollys Mum

@mhrt oregon (14:05:06) :
mollys mum…….my gradma use to say that…….have not heard it in a long time

*******

LOL. Well I guess that shows you just how senior I , am.

I think the reason they all (Oprah, etc.) want her is that she is entertainment. In a train-wrecky way. She’s good for ratings. I find myself drawn to her like a moth to the flame. And she IS attractive, in a repulsive sort of way. She appeals to our hidden National Enquirer side.

Yup, I say keep her around. American voted against her this time, and they will vote against her again. But in the meantime, Desperate Housewives isn’t on, and this is as good a substitute as any.

(Of course, chances are good the RAPTURE will occur before the next election anyway, and all this discussion will be moot.)
😉

23 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

Lacy Lady (14:14:28) :
Thanks for the recipe (hick) gonna send it out to all my peeps! We will need those cookies for sure…. if the Sarah Shut up petition doesn’t work….8)

23 11 2008
Mollys Mum

AAACCCCKK. That wasn’t supposed to all be italicized. I swear I put the in there. Time for more wine.

23 11 2008
BigPete

The “all Americans” polls break down almost exactly as the recent elections. It’s as if the Republican voters have also ‘had it’ with the old cast of characters, and are themselves anxious for a change-it’s easy to suggest Palin when no harm can come of it!

We shouldn’t underestimate the great job that the McCain campaign did in hiding Palin from the general public, who generally don’t follow politics that carefully. Most of us would be shocked to know how low the ratings are for cable news-Fox, for example is watched by about 1% of the total US population, on a day to day basis.

We do know that Palin’s unfavorable ratings rose steadily in her short time ‘in the spotlight’, and the days when she could be called ‘wildly popular’ in Alaska are long over.
Does Britney Spears sell as many records now, as she did when she was NEW? No…….so, not to worry.

23 11 2008
Howling Wolf Pup

It’s a bit worrisome when 2/10 Democrats (only) want her to run–because we know she’d be such a weak candidate. Maybe it’s how the question was asked?

The less attention to the Queen of Narnia the better? There is some Twitter about Tina Fey and a turkey slaughter (er pardon). “I have experience making pardons!”

23 11 2008
Lulu

There is a pro-Palin/no-Palin poll right now on AOL, and a huge amount want her to just “fade away.” Demographically, AOL users are notoriously older, and “right.” So that directly counters these Gallup results, and it targets what is probably a majority GOP clientele–if it’s any consolation.

There is so much being written now about the GOP’s “brain drain” problem. SP is one case in point of this. I think there is a huge faction of power players in the GOP who don’t want this to be so. I do think their party is going to spend a lot of time “in the wilderness” in the upcoming years, trying to figure out what their party means. And many of them don’t want it to be seen as the anti-intellectual party. And SP is a totally anti-intellectual candidate.

23 11 2008
Howling Wolf Pup

The networks value her as a polarizing entity that will drive up ratings. That’s it. I vote for better networks.

23 11 2008
Carol

I have a good friend, who is unfortunately bipolar. A while back, she did stop taking her meds for awhile. “Logorrhea,” excessive and often incoherent talkitiveness was very definitely a part of her pattern at that time. There was also paranoia, lack of empathy and complete focus on herself. That does sound like a fairly accurate description of Sarah as well.

Disturbing as those thoughts are, what is even more disturbing is the thought that a great percentage of Republicans think highly of her.

23 11 2008
Evelyn

Just returned to Mudflats after the weekend guests departed – for two days the wife of the couple has been extolling Sarah Palin: spunky, tough, smart, went up against the old boys, a victim of sexism (just like Hillary), speaks the truth and furthermore what about Bill Ayers. My friend continues that just because Idaho State isn’t ‘good enough’ the media have decided she’s not worthy. And she finds analogies to support her view that SP is one heck of a gal, and takes every opportunity to find slights where none are intended. I don’t understand how they take every honest criticism of SP and turn it 180 degrees. Are they entitled to their own set of facts? Would they go to a doctor with her level of competence? please help me make some sense of this or we might be stuck with Madame President in 4 yrs. Or am I just in Mudflats withdrawal? Please pass the Jose Cuervo cookies.

23 11 2008
emjaygee

@ mhrt oregon (14:35:25) :

When you look at
All Americans
45% yes
52% no
that is way to close

Well, mhrt, basically they are the same numbers by which Obama won the popular vote – 52% to 46%. I still find it shocking, though. Palin is so unqualified to be the leader of the free world. It’s appalling that so many people still support her. It has to be over social issues – surely not her intellect or command of the English language or critical thinking skills. The religious right has hijacked and destroyed the Republican party.

23 11 2008
Catherine

She has something that they want. I just want to know what it is. She is most definitely anti-intellectual. Clearly hates to be challenged. Remember the Katie Couric interview. She was mad. And she seems to like to get even. Everything I do not want in a leader. Mrs. Ditz goes to Washington.

23 11 2008
drchill

Has anyone ever seen the early public health films of the 1950s?

They cover topics like brushing your teeth, washing your hands, being polite and considerate of your classmates, and so on.

Times have changed and changed again. Maybe there’s need for some of it again, including the civics films, where you learn its your right and duty to vote, to become informed and make a thoughtful decision, and pick a candidate that is… best qualified to work within the government, represent you and follow the law of the land.

Sometimes there are things that just need to be repeated.

and don’t forget to wash your hands before your next meal…

23 11 2008
Lulu

Catherine wrote: “She has something that they want. I just want to know what it is.”

Catherine, like you, I ponder this. From my Mudflats University courses on Palin, I now think it’s these 2 things that the GOP wants from her: her “Viagra” effect and her “pro-Life” stance.

It’s certainly not her competence in governing, or her ability to communicate, or her strong ethics.

In four years, Palin’s “Viagra” effect will be diminished. And they may find someone else who can more powerfully shore up the “pro-Life” aspects of getting the fundies involved (Huckabee?).

23 11 2008
Ren

I have talked to some bright people and they think she will do great. I don’t get it. I think it is more about keeping the philosophy in the white house. She appeals to their values and that out weighs what they think of her intelligence. And in some of the smaller communities that I have lived…expectations are not that huge. She is a symbol of what the conservative party values. Thank goodness there are still a ton of people who value the best man or woman for the job.

23 11 2008
GJ in ID

Ok, I’m going to start buying stock in stupid news media stations just before 2012. If those repubs are goning to be spending their illgotten million$ on campiagning for SP, I want to make a few dollars to give to Obama so we can keep him for a full 8 yrs.

I hope that doesn’t make me a repub…making me rich in the stock market, that is. I will not be voting for her, so no worries.

23 11 2008
Lulu

I wrote a post that got lost or something. Anyway, after any remaining “bright GOP people” see her debate Romney, Jindal, Gingrich, and perhaps other GOP women who might run at the national level in the primaries, I don’t think anyone will still be for Palin.

By 2012, her “Viagra” effect will be diminished, and she’ll have grandchildren to nurture–who know how many she’ll have by then!

23 11 2008
Scotsgirl

Lacy Lady – Loved the recipe – got anymore!!??

23 11 2008
Bev

Take another poll of those Repugs…how many are men????
Wink Wink!!!!!

23 11 2008
seachele99

Bipolar is a devastatingly serious diagnoses that requires regular medication and mental health therapy to keep it under control. I know, because my 17-year-old daughter is plagued with bipolar. Symptoms may include the inability to admit you don’t know something (causing the person to speak incessantly and inaccurately about things with absolute confidence even when presented with contrary facts), impulsive and reckless behavior, not considering the consequences of actions to themselves or others, over inflated self confidence, grandiose beliefs in their own skills, abilities, and knowledge, lack of empathy, inability to see or care about anything beyond their own personal needs or wants, habitual need to lie, even about inconsequential things, a penchant for taking things they decide they are entitled to regardless of who else may own them or have to pay for them, and the list goes on. Wow, I can totally see this is Sarah Palin.

23 11 2008
Bev

Oh, another thought…”All Americans”?????????????…they never asked me, nor many of my friends…how do they honestly get those percentages….if they don’t ask all of us!!!!

23 11 2008
UK Lady

Meh!

23 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka Sarah Palin Turkey Noise

Dragon Lady (13:49:50) :

2 out of 10 Republicans need detox but if we play our cards right, 2 out of 10 Republicans will need Botox in 2012: Palin and Bachmann. snark, snark.
_________________________

You’ve got a point, DL, but maybe not the one you were trying to make.

If the republicans polled heavily favor Palin (and Bachman if given the opportunity), then there’s a need to find out the parameters of the poll. As in, what questions were asked and who was allowed to answer those questions.

I can see a pollster calling a house and asking for the man of that house. That man is then asked a short series of leading questions with a limited set of allowable responses. Viola!… and you have your (cough) poll results.

The only other possibility for such a bizarre set of results is that the pollsters only called the houses of horny white men who are sitting in front of their computers typing with one hand.

No.

Brrrrr… not a visual I’m willing to accept.

23 11 2008
TheraP

That little poll shows us for sure that repubs are clearly out of step with America!

Sarah and her band of followers – heading for a cliff!

23 11 2008
Lee323

Maybe I’m the one that needs detoxing….because I am astounded by these Gallup poll results! Sarah Palin? Major national political figure? For years to come? Get outta here………

I won’t believe this many Americans are so dense until Nate Silver (fivethirtyeight.com) weighs in with a poll. By the way, his website is projecting Franken the winner by 27 freaking votes! Man, if that projection holds true, I’m going to suspect Nate of some serious paranormal skills.

23 11 2008
BigPete

@ seachele99

There wasn’t one bipolar symptom in your post that didn’t apply to Palin.
It brought to mind her husband’s remarks about her “being wired differently” as well as the (less charitable) description of her as a “whack job”.
Maybe we shouldn’t be so critical of her husband’s constant hovering in the background.

23 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka Sarah Palin Turkey Noise

Mollys Mum (13:59:31) :

I’m really torn between wanting her to disappear off the face of the earth yesterday and praying she’ll hang around
_______________

I’d like to see her run again for elected office in Alaska – doesn’t matter if it’s for Don Young’s or re-election as guv or for Lisa M’s seat – and see her lose. Perhaps then even that dimbo would see that her political career is over. Big time over. Well, except as “mayor” of Wasilla.

23 11 2008
Sparky

Palin is an idiot.

That said, IMHO, please look back through history and note some of the individuals whom large groups followed…unconditionally. We know who they are/were, and ask ourselves why/how? They are/were generally evil at some level, and even when followers “saw” this a-social behavior from their chosen one, it never mattered. Odd? Yes. We see it here with Palin, and ask how intelligent individuals still want to follow or support her.

It will not change. No matter what Mudpuppies do, we will not change the view from this greater number of followers. But we can make a difference, and WE DID.

I’m not a psychologist, and don’t play one on TV, but I see this particular group as individuals who need someone or some doctrine to tell them how to think and what to do, and answer life’s questions (whether the answer is right or wrong) so they can sleep at night. I’ll call it religion or cult. No, not all religious folk…I don’t mean to go there…but a scary group who follow something independent-minded don’t get. Palin struck a cord at the RNC (gosh knows why, and it doesn’t really matter…right?). Go back to Chopra’s essary.

Free thinkers think freely and critically, not lazy, Obama encourages us to participate and to continue to think independently because wide knowledge and thoughts are a good thing.

Sorry for this length, and the gravity here, but history (always remember history) tells us that if critical thinkers do not remain vigilant and active, horrors are capable of occurring once again. Obama-Biden got our heads out of our a$$es and on the streets and on the Internet and we people helped Barack and Joe take back America. Merely voting would not have accomplished this.

“All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Burke

23 11 2008
Sparky

good grief, essary = essay of course

23 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka Sarah Palin Turkey Noise

austintx (14:14:29) :

She is as dumb as a dirt sandwich……..
_____________

Hey now!

She’s not that dumb but still… no reason to insult a perfectly good dirt sammich. 😳

23 11 2008
Regi

I can’t believe 45% of ALL Americans are still interested ! but I’d totally fail a statistics class.

23 11 2008
Sparky

And AKM THANK YOU! Thank you for this blog. It made a difference and will continue to do so. Please, keep Palin and individuals of her ilk in our faces and remind us of our journey.

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

@Scotsgirl (15:24:
over on the forum … they have a thread where people are shareing favorite foods

23 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

I’m not surprised by this poll. Sarah Palin exudes a sense of entitlement which Republicans share. That feeling of entitlement is the reason they lost this election, and the reason (at least in my humble opinion) that they’ve got to totally revamp their party in order to continue to exist (which because of their sense of entitlement, they will be unable to do). The world has changed, but their mindset still resides in the 50’s.

23 11 2008
SMR

It’s not just you Muckraker —

I changed my voter registration to Undeclared the week after the Palin pick. My husband kept his Republican (I don’t think he could ever bear to check the Democrat box, but will wait to see if he sees the possibilities after Obama’s years in the White House), but voted Obama/Biden.

We did not have to go to the desert (or the Alaskan equivalent) or burn sage or anything like that — we knew as soon as she was picked that it was a harbinger of doom for the Republican party, at least in terms of our relationship with the party.

Of course we don’t get television or cable (by choice, not necessity), so were not subjected to the GOP poison. We’d been out of the country for 4 years. And we’d given up on Fox news long before we left. Our affair with the GOP came to an end when the Iraq war was exposed as a fraud (uh, where were those WMDs again?).

Time will pass and I firmly believe that she will find that her 15 minutes are up. I predict that Bobby Jindal will be the GOP’s new shining light. He meets the crazy religious criteria, young & charismatic, and the GOP will have some delusional belief that by embracing a non-white candidate they will bring some Dems &/or Independents over.

You heard it here.

23 11 2008
Lulu

@SMR, I think you are right about Palin’s end and Jindal as the GOP “future.”

23 11 2008
nebraskanative

At the risk of being totally inappropriate… I wonder which head the repubs are using when they want to support her… haven’t we evolved a little more than that?

Sorry,..

23 11 2008
seachele99

I have an old high school friend I have known for over 20 years, and I love her dearly, but I am still stumped by her crazy attraction and devotion to Sarah Palin. She was reluctantly going to vote for McCain before he chose Palin as his veep, but once he picked Miss Sarah, my friend went ape sheet for the McCain/Palin ticket. We hotly debated via email and myspace during the election with competing McCain/Palin vs Obama bulletins and emails. I just don’t get it. She is a lower middle class working wife and mom of two kids, one from her first marriage and one from her current marriage. She is on her fourth marriage, and she had an abortion during her first marriage because the baby-to-be was conceived during an extra marital affair, so I can’t contribute her devotion to Sarah a result of her religious moral or social values. The closest I can come to pinning down her political motivations or rationale is that she is an avid watcher of FOX News, specifically Sean Hannity and Hannity’s America. My teenage daughter keeps asking me why we are still friends when we are world views apart from one another. I don’t have the answer to that either. Its baffling to me to see that so many Americans see something in Sarah Palin I just don’t see. I see a reckless, ill-informed, annoying, and unprepared individual. Apparently they see something different.

23 11 2008
Lee323

I’m still reeling from the poll results! Who are these 45% of all Americans who see Palin as a major national political figure? I would have guessed about 25% would be about correct….which corresponds with the evangelical die-hards’ percentage in the country.

Who are these people who say she is “tough and spunky”? She folded on Gibson’s and Couric’s interview questions and never allowed any serious questions after that? Tough and spunky?? Really??

I would characterize her behavior as defensive, stone-walling…..nothing short of crazed tap-dancing all over the stage in order to divert the bright lights away from her glaring lack of qualifications.

23 11 2008
Rob in Ca

It is nothing short of astounding to see those figures! My first thought is to wonder if Republicans are wired different from the rest of us? I know a lot of Republicans and used to think they were fairly normal, if somewhat misdirected and short-sighted. But Palin is so unthinking, so shallow, so dishonest, and so incapable of clear communication….how can people overlook this?

Two things for us all to keep in mind so our minds don’t leak out of our ears….

First, many people answering a survey like this are reacting to how they perceive Sarah was treated by the media. Once the perception of liberal media mistreatment dies down over time, they will not have such a knee jerk response, I think. Remember, the losers naturally think the winners got a free ride from the media, and the supposed left-wing media bias is, predictably, already a bigger story than the outrageous, racist lies told by McCain, Palin, and their surrogates.
Over time, the perception of Palin will probably become closer to the reality than it is now.

Second, she is not alone in the lust for 2012. And her competition will not forget her weaknesses. You thought Hillary was tough on Obama? Wait till you see Jindal, Romney, and Huckabee take on Palin as they start the campaign process. The Governors conference was only beginning – and even there Palin came out looking very very bad.

Do not fret. She will be a multi millionaire off this, but her political future is pretty limited, I think.

23 11 2008
seachele99

@ Sparky (15:58:46) :
Palin is an idiot.
“That said, IMHO, please look back through history and note some of the individuals whom large groups followed…unconditionally.”
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Your post reminded me of Jim Jones and the Jonestown Guyana massacre. Nearly 1000 people died from drinking the Kool-Aide, and a third of them were innocent children.

23 11 2008
264 Crayons

Lacy Lady (14:14:28) :

I can’t believe that Oprah, Leno, Letterman and others are wanting Sarah on their show.

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Worse too I saw Daily Show in a list somewhere…ewwww…next they’ll be saying Keith & Rachel would love to chat too. If you continue to give a moron the stage (can we say Paris, anyone?) then they will continue to shine. GAG.

And SMR – Living in Louisiana we keep seeing speculation about Jindal. I’m not on board for him either considering especially that his speech in Iowa to Christian conservatives on Saturday was “mostly devoted to a broad discussion of culture and family values, arguing that a deterioration of the nation’s morals is a root cause of the current financial meltdown and other ills.” Yes, please do blame everything on us devil-loving, welfare collecting, liberally sprinkled socialist roaming about the country. Actually I prefer to blame everything on MTV and Nintendo!

P.S. Lacy Lady I totally loved your humorous recipe:)

23 11 2008
concernedcanadian

You know, I have this strong feeling that people are close to the edge of having about enough of Palin with her actions, and her mouth with the media. It’s going to die a slow death in my opinion. People are attracted to this kind of obscure behaviour at first, but it then becomes tiring to the average Joe with all the media hype that a stupid person like herself is getting. The real task is for the people in charge(the people of Alaska) to ride her ass for everything its worth to make sure she goes down, never to face another public service position again in her career. It starts in Alaska first with the people there to dismantle her. And, mudflats you are doing a fantastic job at it. Keep it up!

23 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

No, Barbie needs to be taken down, politically, like Teddy boy, and ilk…otherwise these idiots will continue to put her on a pedestal so to speak.
Check out this guys blog:
http://wwwcinopsbegone.blogspot.com/2008/11/join-sarah-palin-organization-near-you.html
I wrote a comment to him, think he will post it? It was regarding victims rights, and I posted how Barbie made rape victims pay for their own rape kit and linked to Wasilla project…asked him why Barbies 2 eldest children are HS dropouts, one having to join the military or face jail, the other pregnant, and the youngest prances around with makeup on in high heels. No he will not post my comment, A “Gotcha” comment…she must be taken down, these people “Dark Christians” are cult like and they love her, we should start calling them “The cult of Sarah”
I can’t wait until tomorrow, our “call to action” to email the legislature and get them going on all Barbies “Gates”!!! 😀

23 11 2008
Trini

seachele99 (16:22:46)

Keep your friendship with your high school friend. Politicians will come and go, but a 20 year friendship is something very dear to hang on to. Your friend is merely misguided and misinformed and probably feels that SP is someone who will champion her own needs. Of course she is wrong and you know that. Softly, gently, take her through the “gates” one at a time. And reassure her that merely being a woman does not make SP her champion. But above all else, keep your friendship, because SP will certainly disappear into the tundra and after that, you still need to have your friendship to cherish. It is wrong to let a great friendship be destroyed by a narcissistic opportunist.

23 11 2008
mmboucher (Florida)

Don’t forget once Palin is vetted for a public office and all of her “affairs, Aip, church, and all things that didn’t come out because she was only vp, comes out she will be gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

23 11 2008
Sparky

seachele99 (16:39:41)

And many intelligent people (and sadly they’re children) went along with it. I forget the group, but not long ago there was the followers who all died together and timed it with a comet visable from earth…they wanted to be a part of the comet. All were found in a home, I believe most worked in computer programming or such (IT) and smart (?). I’ve forgotten the specifics…but drank their own kool-aid. Educated…who knows what need is being fulfilled.

Seachele…I will never be compacent again.

23 11 2008
annie

Hudson Elizabeth…..I have said before there is something in those medical records…not sure if its bipolar, but you can tell she’s on some sort of medication (the dry mouth movements).
I’m sure that’s part of why they have not been released.

23 11 2008
seachele99

@ crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl (16:49:06) :
Check out this guys blog:
http://wwwcinopsbegone.blogspot.com/2008/11/join-sarah-palin-organization-near-you.html
I wrote a comment to him, think he will post it?
____________________________________________________________________________________
I checked out his blog, and also tried to post a comment. Looks like the comments require a moderator approval. I agree, I doubt he will publish our comments, but I committed anyway. I will check back tomorrow to see if I have been approved.

23 11 2008
grumpy in Illinois

You dont suppose the survey company had a glitch in their system and kept calling the same 5 people.

23 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

I honestly think, Barbie is going to be “THE ONE” to divide the Repubs. The old Repubs hate her! She says “if I cost JM a vote, I’m sorry” hehe she costed him TONs of votes. The problem is the “cult of Sarah” the FREEC’s and the neocons.
The old guard repubs are not in alignment with the new “rePUGs” ie “joe the plumber” and the dark christian, kool-aid drinkers.
The only way to stop the madness, it to make sure she is Crucified for all her “GATES”, but of course another will come after her…? Hopefully a guy…😉

23 11 2008
betzy

These poll results, true or false, show why we must remain vigilant in an effort to answer any call to action to remove SP as far away as possible from ANY political position. (I am not an Alaskan but grateful for this site, AKM, and willing to do whatever I might as a Californian to expose SP’s real past actions to end her public life, both in politics and other media to save women the embarrassment she causes our gender.)

Many, many people do not read, are not interested in being informed, do not listen and are not aware of signals people are giving out. I cannot believe the “intelligent, educated” people in my circle/relationships that think SP capable of anything and thought she should be the VP.

It does no good to point out her asininity, lack of command of simple grammatically correct sentences, risky mothering, absenteeism from the workplace etc. as they are not to be deterred from their opinion.

I want to point out her dress style once she obtained the RNC clothes. They were close to the “classic” style, with few glaring errors, such as the “donkey” scarf. It made her look as though she was “put together” and clearly dressed for success. She was also using a lot of black as a power statement.

Prior to that, in one shot of her in the grocery store, she was without any pizzaz at all and I submit that had she remained in that style she would not have made it through even one stage event. Her appearance in the store was as scattered looking as her speech is.

My plentiful professional and personal experiences (unfortunately) with sociopaths and bipolars who may be hyper, glib, and live outside the real world just slightly, has been that people are drawn to them, stick around until they are tired of being the victim and then move on and make room for the next groupies.

The “living on the edge” with the sociopaths, the magnetic energy of the bipolar (which I think you can see all the time in SP’s pressured, rapid speech that does not necessarily make any sense at all) seems to draw individuals to the “sick” personality like moths to the light.

Who do you know that would “make domestic” with trying to keep track of a recipe and cook it while doing a TV interview? (It surely would turn out like the Cuervo cookies if I did that!) Typically, the sociopath/bipolar thinks they can do all things immediately and take credit for such, even though they may have difficulty executing life’s daily maintenance tasks.

SP’s Todd “hovering” around her all the time gives me the creeps. Is he busy “taking charge” of her because he is aware of her shortcomings?

My goal is that we can keep on top of this fiasco so that our children and grandchildren do not have to endure any tenure of SP’s ever in public office at the national level, and hopefully Alaska will soon see the end of her public political position there.

23 11 2008
Ren

How exactly do they conduct these polls? I am missing something. I will go back and read again. However, it just seems odd.

23 11 2008
264 Crayons

I don’t know that I can ever buy into any religious kool-aid…I remember a very Christian co-worker telling me once that you have to believe in God. I told her no, I didn’t and that I chose to believe in myself. You’d of thought I shot flames out of my mouth. It seemed logical to me (and still does) so I really don’t get the adoration Palin gets from my co-workers, old friends and such. I just smile and wave…there’s really nothing I can (or should) say to change their mind. I’d resent the heck out of them for trying to convert me so I keep that in mind and keep my “negative” comments to myself. Because hey…52% of us can’t be that wrong;)

23 11 2008
grumpy in Illinois

It is not always easy to diagnose. The simplest form of stupidity – the mumbling, nose-picking, stolid incomprehension – can be detected by anyone. But the stupidity which disguises itself as thought, and which talks so glibly and eloquently, indeed never stops talking, in every walk of life is not so easy to identify, because it marches under a formidable name, which few dare attack. It is called Popular Opinion…
-Robertson Davies,

23 11 2008
grumpy in Illinois

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.”
-Martin Luther King, Jr.

23 11 2008
23 11 2008
Lee323

As far as Oprah, Leno, Letterman appearances by Palin….I would frankly be surprised if she did these types of venues. She would be paranoid that they would ask her potentially embarrassing or oblique questions. The only way she’d appear in a live format with anyone other than the Fox gang would be if she could somehow dictate the terms of engagement (exact questions) before she stepped foot in their studios.

If she got booed by some of the audiences….I would love it….poetic justice for all the rank behavior of the crowds that she whipped up during her “slash and burn” march across the country this fall.

Hey, Gallup pollsters…. contemplate this percentage…..Barack Obama is 100% the President-Elect of the U.S.of A.

23 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka Sarah Palin Turkey Noise

I can’t believe that Oprah, Leno, Letterman and others are wanting Sarah on their show.

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Worse too I saw Daily Show in a list somewhere…ewwww…next they’ll be saying Keith & Rachel would love to chat too. If you continue to give a moron the stage (can we say Paris, anyone?) then they will continue to shine.
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Let’s not forget that Sarah Palin’s worse enemy is her mouth. I say keep her on coming onto the shows… the more people hear her, the more they’ll realize how vacuous she really is.

23 11 2008
girldujour

All they need to do is go to Europe (or probably any other country) to find that we have done the right thing, for us and everyone else. Just give us some time.

That said, The Telegraph did a pictorial saying “bye bye bush” and it really made me smile.

http://girldujour.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/the-uk-telegraph-features-a-pictorial-good-bye-to-bush/

23 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka Sarah Palin Turkey Noise

seachele99 (16:39:41)

And many intelligent people (and sadly they’re children) went along with it. I forget the group, but not long ago there was the followers who all died together and timed it with a comet visable from earth
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Heaven’s Gate. Great ad for Nike, tho.

23 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

I am sure that Oprah said she would be willing to have Sarah on her show after the election. Leno, Letterman, Stewart and Oprah may have put out the offer but I wonder how much they are actually pursuing it. Or – is this spin from Sarah’s crew to try to prove to us she is really important. “Sarah: you are not that important. These people are not dependent upon you to have a successful career.” And let’s face it, these would be extremely difficult interviews for her to do. Not only are these hosts funny but they are extremely well informed, and wouldn’t let her dodge the questions.

23 11 2008
Ripley in CT

Oh Please Oh Please Alaskans… push the legislature to continue to investigate her abuses… do not let her get away with it. If Uncle Ted got nabbed, then she should, too.

It sickens me to think that anyone would think she was qualified to do anything. I can only hope she loses her next run for anything.

Problem is this: If people become disenchanted with Obama’s plans and actions to bring the country closer to the middle, some of those slightly righties will think she’s the second coming, because of her conservative “values” that she doesn’t live up to.

*shaking head*

23 11 2008
Renee

A psychology spin…

This makes sense, I have been trying to understand the psychological thinking of intelligent voters. Good read if you want to take a deep look…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pam-atherton/why-some-smart-women-thin_b_137416.html

23 11 2008
wired differently

Ahem. Not all who are wired differently are Republicans or whack jobs. Sniff.

23 11 2008
Sarah of Arizona

It just shows how out of touch the Republicans really are. If they want to survive, they are going to have to wake up and start listening to mainstream America.

Renee,

The Huffington Posts article makes a lot of sense. I have been wondering the same thing about people I know.

23 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

OT Colbert’s Christmas is on the Comedy Channel … it is totally hysterical.

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Palinbots like her because they like to like her. She is Rove writ large:

You Don’t Have to Know Anything – that is the Winning Strategy.

I was told by a Bush supporter in 2000 that: “The Prezident of the U-nited States don’t need to know nothin’.” So too the voter. No threat.

Empowerment through stupidity.

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

264 Crayons – have you got a news source with your Jindhal quote at 16:45? Deterioration of our morals caused the financial crisis? What?

I agree that is amoral to elect incompetent people because we are too apathetic to demand qualified candidates.

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Sauerkraut! at 15:53: (what you mean, point I was “trying” to make??
and BTW
Sister Sarah and Sister Michelle are praying for you for that image at 15:53. Repent now.)
All is forgiven if you make the dirt sandwiches and I’ll make the Jose Cuervo cookies to deliver to the Twisted Sisters before their next big televised speeches. (If I have any left.)

23 11 2008
Sparky

264 Crayons (17:14:11) :

I get what you’re saying. When I was very little and in Pentacostal (wtf?) Sunday School, I would question religious teachings, and didn’t realize how uncomfortable it made others, until I would question such thoughts as an adult, when brought up at my place of work (hospital). Wow, staff would step away and I swear protect themselves from lightning bolts from above.

I’m much better now in social situations.

But I naturally question something that just doesn’t sound right, or ring true. Even if not vocally, I’ll research. I did my senior studies (world religions) thesis on religion, and learned as much (still learning) as possible to help me understand.

I feel comfortable about my beliefs/nonbeliefs…frees me up to concentrate on other things.

23 11 2008
Sparky

Sauerkraut aka Sarah Palin Turkey Noise (17:41:50)

In my original post, I was going to mention Hitler as one who was followed unconditionally, and when evil was identified, followers “didn’t hear.”

His filthy name scares people, so initially I left it out. His was the ultimate kool aid.

23 11 2008
Sparky

“refused to hear”

23 11 2008
antiAnti

When the pollsters ask:

What percentage of your income and net worth will you contribute to Sarah Palin’s becoming a major political figure, for many years to come? And what is that dollar amount?

then the results _might_ have significance. However, Gallup would rather ask drivel and get drivel, it’s what the Gallup customers want. Palin will need major cash to make a bid for national status. Her current victim status is retaining her high name recognition, but she needs the press/media and they are noticeably not on her side. I expect Gallup and other pollsters will be asking much more realistic questions in relation to Palin shortly. The questions will get more pointed as Palin’s funding evaporates.

23 11 2008
SMG - MN

@Dragon Lady (18:47:16) :

i>i264 Crayons – have you got a news source with your Jindhal quote at 16:45? Deterioration of our morals caused the financial crisis? What?

This is a link to the Jindal article:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/22/jindal-in-iowa-this-weekend/

23 11 2008
Alaska Pi

The gov appeals to a group of people who want to live in a very small, controlled world. The disconnect between Ms Palin’s behavior and these folks’ perceptions of her is obvious to anyone who has even a smidge wider world.
Intelligence is only part of the equation- seeing and being open to options or course changes are out of the question for these folks.
At present most of these folks live in the Republican tent but a heckuva a lot of them lived in the blue zone prior to Nixon inviting them over. It’s a type of person… not going to go away…
We have a huge mess in this country because we let the last batch o these folks scare us into silence… belittle , criminalize, and hound any voice which spoke of the world which includes all of us.
The gov is dangerous- whether she’s just dumber n dirt or fox-sly or an elitist fundamentalist who feels anointed and protected – because she appeals to people who are ill prepared to face the real world and become paranoid, frightened, and/or narrow minded.
The others she appeals to- supposedly intelligent, blah,blah will and are starting to fall off. Hopefully they will start bailing by the trainloads…
Hopefully, we Alaskans can undo our own mistake. We were TOO ready for a fresh face, a fresh voice… we were having a hard time looking at ourselves in the mirror after the whole VECO insanity started unfolding and Murkowski’s reign of slime. I didn’t vote for any of those yahoos but I spent 4 years slapping my voting hand anyway.
We SEE Ms Palin now… we need to show her the door… and lock it behind her…

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

The timing of this poll is critical. Her meteoric rise, rousing the rabble, her Anti-Victory media tour.

Romney is the guy with good hair and posture (but not a Christian).
Huck is a fundamentalist but doesn’t wink, blow kisses or look good in heels.
Jindhal – you’re kidding? The base, base?
Who’s the other one?
See?
GOP has Nobody.

Poll answers provided by Pat Buchanan, Lawrence O’Donnell, Sean Hannity, Hank Williams, Jr. etc., etc.

23 11 2008
Alaska Pi

We did NOT vet her either…

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Alaska Pi – very good post; especially like that phrase “elitist fundamentalist.” That is Sister Sarah.

SMG – thanks for link to Think Progress. One comment there stated: if you talk to God you are praying. If you think God is talking to you, you are schizophrenic. ” Or – an Elitist Fundamentalist.

23 11 2008
Sue

I think the Reps. may get their act together for 2012 and find a way to shed themselves of her. The leaders of the GOP realize that she is a death kiss to any candidate, so they will not want her on the ticket. SP appeals to the basest part of people–fear, hatred, anger, and racism. Those qualitites are definitely present in the far right voters, but there just aren’t enough of them to make a majority. If the Reps. want to run someone in 2012, they must choose a candidate who will appeal to more voters, and SP just isn’t it.

23 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Any mud pups still here?
Thanks, AKM- I read this right after I read a column in the Denver Post, editorial section: “The GOP’s Journey to the right”. Fred Brown, long-time Colorado political observer, discusses the same topic: social conservatives feel they weren’t far enough to the right, and that’s why they lost- thus Sarah Palin (urg). Others, old-time Republicans, point to Colin Powell, and agree with his disappointment with the GOP, and endorsement of Obama. The Whams, very active Republicans (served in the state legislature, more than 15 years), voted for Obama- McCain ran a poor campaign and Palin as a choice seemed rash. They are fiscal conservatives, but social moderates- and they are dismayed by the no tax is a good tax, and government is an enemy emphasis.

It will be interesting to see which faction wins the battle for the soul of the GOP.

23 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Alaska Pi (19:09:15) :

Good points- The GOP has become the party of the anti-intellectual, starting with eight years of a Good Ol’ Boy President.

It may not have occurred to Gov. Palin that the door she is waiting to open for her has a sign over it marked “Exit”.

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Jindhal is not to be underestimated but I doubt a first generation American of Middle Eastern origin will be a viable candidate, even though a Christian.

Doubt that a white female can win in 2016. (Even if she was S of S.)

Lots of folks going to feel very threatened especially with predictions that whites will be the minority by 2040.

Interesting to see how race, gender and religion will play out post-Obama.
The times they are a changin’ but how much?

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

CO Almost – Nixon started the anti intellectual bent.

Lots of “decent, hard-working Americans” talk. Us against Them. Them being hippies, war protestors, civil rights activists, feminists, etc.

23 11 2008
SMG - MN

For all who (like me) still fear the power of the Palinesque idealogy and its inherent danger, this is a good read:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ralph-white/looking-deeper-into-palin_b_145886.html

23 11 2008
knikgoose Hussein justaskin

Thanks for writing this, AKM, slow news day or not.
Thank goodness, it’s not just me! I thought either I was terribly wrong, or over-analysing, or far-too-critical, or just a really bad selector of people, but, I’ve been really wondering what the h3ll is going on, that would make my repug friends so darned blind or stupid.
I had come to the conclusion last week that I was/had been over-reacting in my belief that Palin was obviously a narcissistic sociopath, and perhaps I had misjudged (or over-judged). These dear friends were vehemently professing that the Sarah ‘they knew’, had been wonderful for Alaska, and that the media had crucified her. (These same people are also completely reviled – I don’t mean miffed, I mean reviled – that Obama is the president, and blame the upsurge in gun and ammo sales on some rumor coming out of Texas that the Arab countries KNOW Obama is a pushover and they will be invading soon)
Then, with today’s CNN report that McAllister has said Palin so many offers in to do speaking engagements, tv opps, and other deals, I wondered, am I nuts?
Who the h3ll wants to have her speak when so many are complaining about her presence in the news?
So, thanks AKM, it’s not me,.it’s my friends who are nuts (and blind, and apparently unable to read, or think critically). I am henceforth vowing to refuse to speak to republicans,…ever again.

23 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Dragon Lady (19:40:52) :

Oh yes, I forgot about I-Am-Not-A-Crook. He did a few good things, like begin the thaw with China, but the anti-intellectual stuff…Buckley used to have a field day ( of course, he was racist for a while, but that’s another story).

23 11 2008
RouletteRog

As I’ve asked prior: People of Alaska, for the love of all that is good and right with your state and country, please impeach Sarah Palin so that the stupid half of America cannot force her on the rest of us.

That said, I was a Republican. I’m still registered as one because I supported Ron Paul, the only one in the lot with any real wisdom or that was generally worth a damn. I ended up voting for Obama because I couldn’t bear the thought of having to listen to Palin for four years. (How do you do it up there?) No trips out into the desert or cleansing rituals here, though. Just an adult beverage, a deep breath, and patience knowing that the Sun will again rise for those of us who consider ourselves “conservative” and not living in a dream or echo chamber.

Anyways, while we’re sharing Christmas Recipes:
Here’s a favorite from th Bartender’s Guide By Trader Vic (1947, Doubleday)

Boston Egg Nog (page 296)
1/2 oz brandy
1/4 oz Jamaica rum
4 oz Madeira
4 oz shaved ice
1 egg yolk
3/4 tbs. powdered sugar

Beat egg and sugar together; add rest of ingredients and a cup of chilled fresh milk; shake and strain into a large bar glass; fill up with cold milk; stir gently and dust with nutmeg.

Enjoy, and if anyone wants any more holiday drink recipes, shoot me ani email and I’ll happily oblige.

23 11 2008
CO Almost Native

knikgoose Hussein justaskin (19:50:37)

Her Governor had better pick her way very carefully through the waves of offers, as she could easily step in the muck- what will happen as Miss Popularity gallivants around the country, and ignores/neglects the state she’s supposed to govern?

23 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

SMG – MN (19:41:18) :

For all who (like me) still fear the power of the Palinesque idealogy and its inherent danger, this is a good read:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ralph-white/looking-deeper-into-palin_b_145886.html

That is a good read. To study and understand the religious right beliefs is to be forearmed. But I don’t like to hear the words scared or fear when it comes to Mrs. Palin. We must hold her accountable for her actions and expose her for her shortcomings. We can do this with confidence. It would be a great interview for someone without bias to speak to her about her religious beliefs

23 11 2008
Alaska Pi

Dragon Lady- Found the term “elitist fundamentalist” in an article by a sociologist. Can’t remember where… but made the hair on the back of my neck stand up… yup- yup, that’s our gov.

CO Almost-
Boy- that door BETTER have “exit” over it!

I spent my summer reading Deer Hunting With Jesus by Bageant and Social Darwinism in American Thought by Hofstadter… not the normal summer lazy reading but the times seemed to call for trying to get hold of some things …
I come from too large a family not to see what a mess we have been making . Can’t blame it on some “them” or “that one” when half your family is sending disgusting emails about Mr Obama to the other half. It’s even harder when it comes from people you love .

http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/tag/deer-hunting-with-jesus/

When Ms Palin got tapped for the VP slot , I had one brief moment of mirth thinking about her adherence to the current Republican form of Social Darwinism in a 6000yr-old-world and hyperventilated until the election was over. It was JUST beginning to be obvious who she was here in-state and POW she’s on the national stage faking her way to the next prize! Agh!

AKM has given a place and a voice to so many… I come here to breathe… normally and listen.

23 11 2008
Dragon Lady

SMG – re HuffPo/Ralph White at 19:41 – Palin terrified me from the roll out.

Her image as the Mom – the blessed virgin, mother of our Lord, in whom shall we put our trust but a mother?
A God fearing woman inspired to seek Higher (no pun) Office.
I literally could not sleep for fear of a Republican win.

Jindhal’s approach seems to be low key on issues like abortion but use moral majority appeal. Nixon crossed with Falwell: The Silent Moral Majority.
For example, Protect Our Children.

This could be brilliant and is stupidly simple:
Greed (dogwhistle deadly sin) caused the financial collapse.
Solution – make God the center of American politics and government
How can you not vote for God’s will?

It’s a neat parlour trick. Very frightening.

bed for me my lovely pups. If I can’t sleep, it is everyone’s fault for such thought-provoking and stimulating commentary.

23 11 2008
mhrt oregon

new post

23 11 2008
SMR

@Alaska Pi —

I don’t remember seeing your name on the list of Alaskans at the Forum, but FYI, Anchorage Mudstock coming up December 13th if you’re interested in attending (and will be in the area).

23 11 2008
dowl

South Side Chicago

Alaska Pi–I’ve read ‘Deer Hunting with Jesus’ and saw the short interview with the author. I will try hard to get to ‘Social Darwinism….’ Great Issues in American History by Richard Hofstadter was required reading for a history class when I was in high school and seeing your comment made me think. I’ve been recommending the Joe Bageant book on other blog posts for a while. Michael Moore’s ‘Stupid White Men’ is a good read and has info re ‘community organizing.’

It is heartening to listen to mudflatters. Thanks AKM!

24 11 2008
264 Crayons

Dragon Lady (18:47:16) :

264 Crayons – have you got a news source with your Jindhal quote at 16:45? Deterioration of our morals caused the financial crisis? What?

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Sorry yes I should have stated where I got that from – it was in our local paper (online version) The Times Picayune:

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/jindal_draws_big_crowd_in_iowa.html

24 11 2008
emjaygee

Well . . . here’s a thought. I have caller ID and never answer “unknown caller” or 800 or 866 numbers, so pollsters would never get my opinion. Could it be that the polls are skewed due to caller ID?

24 11 2008
Alaska Pi

dowl- If you come back here..
How weird was it to have Mr Obama’s State Legislative tenure ignored by so many? I “talked” with another blogger from Illinois about it before the election…he/she said it was bizarre to have folks wave their hands and ignore all those years of service and concentrate on (and denigrate ) the single term in the US Senate…
Kind of like all the folks who waved their hands and ignored we Alaskans about “poor Sarah” -only worse. AGH!!!

24 11 2008
DF

Hey, wait a minute!!!! What about that 20% of the Democrats????? Now, who’s delusional? 🙂

24 11 2008
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24 11 2008
Judy

The numbers for “All Americans” is interesting. 46 percent yes 52 no. It’s the same percentages by which Obama won the general election.

Personally, I enjoy the comedy that is Sarah Palin. Gives me something to laugh about. I kind of miss her when she’s not doing something stupid.

24 11 2008
24 11 2008
Floyd M. Orr

Please pardon my incompetence in transmitting the proper links in the above post. If you move your cursor over the comments, you will discover the right links anyway. Sorry.

24 11 2008
mary (aka Shank Piston Palin)

Well – consider the question. Others may have said this already – haven’t read through all the comments yet – but “A major political figure for years to come”? Why not, if she does the good in mobilizing liberals and democrats that she did in this past election? Maybe some of the people voting “yes” in this poll are people who want her constantly making a fool of herself and thereby helping the opposition!

Just a thought-

24 11 2008
Alaska Pi

Mr Orr-
I believe the polls -pretty much- too.
Heck, I’m related to almost a quarter of the folks in the beautiful Mat-Su valley which has devolved into the Palin-zone.
Too many of the self-deceived are my relatives… I KNOW they are real.

25 11 2008
forkboy

I’ve said it before (probably here, but certainly elsewhere), forget about the number of Republicans who want to see her once again grace the national stage…look at the numbers in the All Americans column.

The No’s have it by only 7%. Let that sink in for a moment. 7%. I would hardly call that a ringing endorsement against Palin. As a matter-of-fact, I would go so far as to say that this 7% difference frightens me. The notion of that many Americans (45% of those polled) wanting to see her again suggests something truly sordid and sick about the mindset of the average American voter. It says that a candidate who cannot speak, who clearly is unintelligent, who lies with casual abandon, and wouldn’t know or understand ethical behaviour if it came up and bit her on the ass, is a viable candidate for at least 45% of the electorate.

I may not agree with much of the modern Republican platform, but at least I can enjoy a decent debate with the likes of George Will and other intelligent, thoughtful and thought provoking Right-wingers. But Palin? How do you debate with a women who won’t discuss the issues? How do you argue with a woman with absolutely no intellectual capital? And this is how at least 45% of Americans believe the leader of the free world should behave?

25 11 2008
silvio

100% of Dems should be praying for Palin to remain a national GOP figure for MANY years to come.

Is her presence on the national stage is the best thing that happened to progressive politics in this country?

You betcha!
😉




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