I Saw Walt Monegan Today.

15 11 2008

I was running around town today, doing a few errands and who should I see, but Walt Monegan. I’ve met him before briefly, but I was sure he wouldn’t remember me. I was taken by surprise, and I felt like I had so much to say. I wanted to thank him for his service to the state. I wanted to tell him I though he really got the short end of the stick. I wanted to tell him that I appreciate all he was doing for the Troopers, and for rural Alaska, and that I was sorry he never had the chance to make his plans a reality. I wanted to ask him if he needed anything….I don’t know what it would be, but I, like so many others wish I could do something. He looked a little tired.

I froze. Maybe, I thought, he just wants to have a Saturday afternoon running errands like everybody else. Maybe he just wants one small block of time without having to think about Sarah Palin, or talk to anybody about Troopergate. I know I have times where I just don’t want to think about Sarah Palin anymore….I can only imagine how he feels.

Then I started thinking that people are always grateful for kind words. Maybe I’d make it really short, so I wouldn’t interrupt his day, but so he’d know that there was one more person out there pulling for him, and doing what they could to support him. I wouldn’t engage him in conversation, but I ‘d let him know I was on his side. But what would I say? I stood there for a minute composing the perfect 10-second statement that would encompass all those things, and come out just right.

Of course by the time I had mentally composed my script, he was gone. I saw him with his wife off in the distance, and thought maybe I could still catch him if I ran…but then I decided it would ruin the effect of my casual quick 10-second support statement if I had to arrive there gasping and out of breath from running top speed down the street to catch up with him.

So, I hope Walt and his wife had a nice afternoon, and I hope they didn’t think about Sarah Palin.


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15 11 2008
UK Lady

Aaarrghh!!! am I first ??

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Aaaaarrrghhh!!!😎

15 11 2008
ocliberal

Wow am i 1st again.

We may be evacuated. This is nuts!

15 11 2008
Jan (SW Washington)

Any chance he would run for a public office?

15 11 2008
ocliberal

They are evacuating less than two miles from us. You wonder why I’m typing on the computer? I don’t know what else to do.

We’ve packed the important stuff – everything else once you look at it, is just stuff. My 14 year old is freaking and packing all her clothes. I packed enough clothes to get me through.

My husband packed the safe, important papers. I grabbed some pictures. then I grabbed my camera and took pictures of every room of my house. I told my husband it was for insurance reasons. but the more pictures I took the more I realized how much one’s house means to them.

The dogs are freaked as the smoke outsides is so thick you can’t breathe.

I’m not that worried about us, yet still, this is absolutely nuts.

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

ocliberal — California fires I presume?

Walt Monegan for Governor!

It’s been a busy weekend… and it’s only Saturday – Our first weekly address… pictures of Barbie at the pool — a great roast of Stephen Cobert — Used to be that weekends were slow news days.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Good grief Ocliberal, get of the damned computer, get your folks and your dogs and get safe!!!! Please!!!!

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

From the liberal Christian — you are in my prayers — don’t wait too long — please give yourself enough time to get out…

15 11 2008
MWthatoneYesWeCan

AKM: I saw him, too, a couple weeks ago at MiddleWay Cafe….he was surrounded by a couple women, and perhaps with his wife. Makes me wonder if we all could send emails of support somewhere; maybe not to him personally but to some powers that be. Not sure who……..maybe some to the Anchorage Daily News and to the Press…

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

grr… FOX the only station with live fire coverage

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

FOX now reporting on AK senate race…. I can’t believe I am watching FOX

15 11 2008
Windy City, aka Alien Ears

UK Lady–Thanks for the connection. I will take a look. Humor that is not mean-spirited has returned to the White House. Love Barack and Michelle’s gentle, loving ribbing.

Sorry to repeat above from last thread.

OC Liberal–I ditto stop typing and leave if the smoke is getting thicker!

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ ocliberal (15:35:39) :
We may be evacuated. This is nuts!

Just GO! And if the air is too bad to come back come here. My house is too big now my son and family moved to San Diego. They were evacuated last year and came here to breathe clean rural air into their lungs.

AKM: That’s was sweet–not in a cloying way.

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Sorry UK lady–you wasn’t lying, LOL! I couldn’t find the thread at first.

I had to go back to Lock Pepper–is my identity.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Lock Pepper – who were you being then?

15 11 2008
kathy

AKM- when I was 12 the first Democratic Governor in Vermont in 106 years (we used to be solidly, stolidly, Republican) came to my church summer camp and on Banquet night gave us a talk about our Christian responsibility to be involved in politics (we’re Episcopalians. This was 1960. It was a different thing).

Anyway, it meant a lot to me, and I’ve thought about it a lot over the last 45 years. A couple of years ago I happened to stumble across the former Governor and told him how much that talk had meant to me all those years ago. He was thrilled to think I’d remembered and that it had made a difference. I could tell I’d made his day.

So I hope you get another chance to tell all those things to Walt Monegan in person. As long as you both have breath it’s not to late.

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Get THEE out of there, OC Liberal!
Heavens to Betsy, your dogs and family need to be safe!

This coming from a former texan who HAULED BUTT when Hurricane Rita was coming–took my little cat with me to San Antonio! Left the husband to guard the house (stubborn–wouldn’t join me).

15 11 2008
kathy

Forty Watt – how far away are you from where the fires are? Are you being evacuated for smoke or for potential danger? I wish you the best. It must be very disheartening.

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Lock Pepper – who were you being then?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I was trying to be Wahine in Honolulu but it just didn’t fit–kinda like Lock Pepper–

Please Lord…don’t make me be reincarnated as part of the Palin brood!

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Thought you mudpuppies would enjoy a little humor featuring SP.
If so take a peek at a few jokes of her.
McCain (getting in Palin’s face) “Who’s the girl?”
Palin “She’s my
daughter!”
McCain (slaps her)
Palin “She’s my sister!”
McCain (slaps her)
Palin “She’s my daughter … ”
McCain (slaps her)
Palin (cont.) AND my SISTER!”

• “John McCain’s V.P. pick is the governor of Alaska, a unknown hockey mom named Sarah Palin that no one ever heard of. The only other job she had in politics was the mayor of a small town known as Wasilla, Alaska, and now she has the opportunity to be on a ticket opposite of Barack Obama, the first black man she’s ever seen.”

15 11 2008
15 11 2008
kathy

AKM – reading my comment about Governor Hoff I’m thinking how different my experience is of what he meant, as opposed to what the Christian right usually means.

The Christian left meant that we have an obligation to work for the freedom and dignity of every human being, and to be engaged in the civic discussion. We sure didn’t mean that we should be advancing a religious agenda.

15 11 2008
Kelly M

Maybe Monegan reads Mudflats or someone he knows does and he’ll get your good wishes even though you didn’t chase him down and deliver the 10 second speech in an out of breath stalker sort of a way…

15 11 2008
kathy

I had comments that posted and then disappeared. Anyone have that happen?

OCliberal – I misread and thought someone else was being evacuated. Best luck to you.

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

AKM: Hope you don’t mind, just thought I would add a little humor
this Sat eve.
“This is true, according to a new report, I was reading this today in the paper, thousands of pregnant mothers in this country are planning to name their baby Barack. That’s true. Yeah, after hearing this, Sarah Palin told Bristol, ‘Don’t even think about it.'”

“Sarah Palin is all over the news lately. She told Matt Lauer on the ‘Today’ show that, yes, the rumors were true, on election night she did want to deliver her own concession speech and she was disappointed that she couldn’t. Well, she shouldn’t feel bad. Wait till 2012. Deliver it then.”

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Lock Pepper you are so funny!

Weird but we get used to the old names, sort of by osmosis. Ages ago I tried to change mine from UK Lady to Annette, but it didn’t take. Then I burned my laptop out a couple of days ago. Sat and sulked for a couple of days till the hubby gave me his. Because the email address had changed I lost the Turning Turtle part and my colour changed from red to blue. Don’t suppose anyone else noticed. 🙂

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

It’s good that Walt Monegan can go around town with his wife and do the daily things in life. Best of wishes to him, a man who appears much more honorable than the cheesey politician who tried to besmirch his reputation. Nice setting in that picture, btw. Him with the flag behind him and the plaque with the phrases “honor” and “not forgotten” next to him.

I didn’t get to see Monegan today but I did get to see Russia. Just not from my house!

Did you mudflatters find Asiangrrrl last night?

15 11 2008
Trini

Ocliberal please go and get to a safe place for your family and dogs! It’s the most important thing right now. My thoughts and prayers to all who are experiencing the fires.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Is someone taking my picture when I click on a link on this site?? You know those balloons that pop up and say “snapshots”?? Is it spies??

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

Lock Pepper – I like that name. The other one you were trying to use, is that a cultural name? The first part is okay, rolls of the tongue real nice, but that second part… tita… well, gives this poor boy a visual of… well, yanno. Female parts. Stick with Lock Pepper. It’s so very original. Just like you!

15 11 2008
Goalie in NM

Hello??? Walt, are you listening??..

I’ll just bet.

15 11 2008
mama4obama

I want to stop thinking about Sarah Palin, too! Please, Alaska, keep your governor in Alaska and then impeach or otherwise recall her, let her go down in disgrace before 2012, and do NOT even consider re-electing her for governor nor sending her to Washington, DC as a senator! The world will be a nicer place without Sarah Palin to worry about!

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

ocliberal:
Please go NOW! Do not wait to be told by those in “authority”. Do not wait for your daughter to finish packing. Do not wait for your dog to do a freak-out. Listen to your mudbuddies! Have we ever lied to you?
To all in the fire zone, please stay safe, first and foremost.

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

UK – I think the color goes with your IP addie… it’s not just the color that changes but the entire pattern thereon. I like that blue. But then, like many folks who comment here, blue does seem to be our favorite. 😀

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Lots of positive feedback about Walt Monegan from those who know him. Abuse of power is a sorry attribute for a Governor. SP said the Republican Governors needed to use the next couple of years and get out there and do “reforms”. Perhaps the first one should be righting that wrong. And then perhaps we can move on and see how it goes.

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ kathy (16:02:20) :

Forty Watt – how far away are you from where the fires are? Are you being evacuated for smoke or for potential danger? I wish you the best. It must be very disheartening.
_________________________________________

That’s so nice–but it’s not me it’s ocliberal that is threatened. The names get confusing when one is quoting someone else.

Last year my son, wife, and their little ones had to flee from the San Diego fire. They had just moved, my son was out of town and perfect strangers, a couple in their eighties, took in my daughter-in-law, the children, another family, plus 2 dogs and three cats for several days, before they made it here to me. So if I can do anything for anyone else in this situation, my home is open.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Northern Exposure – Yes they are!! Go to your kitchen immediately and get some tinfoil. Tear off a strip of approx 12″ square and form into a pie shape. Then put on your head and keep it there until you feel safe again!! :8:

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Female Parts–ewwwww–glad I went back to Lock Pepper, LOL🙂

BTW Wahine is Hawaiian for woman… and “tita” is pidgin for “sister” (bully girl, not female parts…)

Thanks for the feedback folks…I’ll stick to LP then, Yippee!

15 11 2008
Lana, KY

AKM ~ I probably would have frozen too, and thought of wonderful things to say after the fact. You’re not alone.
I feel so sorry for Walt Monegan. We all had our lives interrupted and disturbed by Sarah Palin, but he was really chewed up and spit out. Dreadful, horrid woman.

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

Thank you More than Light…. watching KABC online — press conference… I have fam in Southern CA — San Diego (they were evacuated last time around) and Pomona area — both OK during these latest fires

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Well, glad that’s settled. We do take risks wallerin’ in the flats. All the more worthwhile..

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

ocliberal:
Please go NOW! Do not wait to be told by those in “authority”. Do not wait for your daughter to finish packing. Do not wait for your dog to do a freak-out. Listen to your mudbuddies! Have we ever lied to you?
To all in the fire zone, please stay safe, first and foremost.
_______________________________________________________________________
Problem Child–I second that emotion!

Hopefully silence from the oclibrul indicates she has listened to her BFFs!

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Northern Exposure – of course :8: should have been😯 :blush:

They have gotten to me, also.

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

“kas from Oregon (15:44:21) :

grr… FOX the only station with live fire coverage”

It’s been on MSNBC all day here. Please, anyone in the OC area, stay safe, even if that means leaving!

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Did all my posts just vanish?

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hey Walt, we were all pullin for ya at Mudstock II in Chicago.
Walt Monegan for Governor!

https://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/mudstock-ii-in-chicago/mudstock2b8/

Got your message that you couldn’t join us, hey maybe next time…

ocliberal (15:38:23) :
I certainly hope you have already left. We are thinking about you and wishing you best of luck.

ok, bbl

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Northern Exposure – No we can read them, but you are being blocked by them!!!
😈

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

no, I just read them all, NE.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Northern Exposure (16:33:00) :

Did all my posts just vanish?
——
No, just your last one, it just joined mine in a spam filter. AKM will likely liberate them at somepoint. Oh well.
bbl

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

Northern Exposure:
I had that happen earlier…. it’s as though I was reloaded to a previous time… then transported back to real time….

15 11 2008
lauren in SD

Please be safe, Californians.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

Lock Pepper – how about you change your name to Wahine Lock Pepper in Hono?

btw – dated a girl whose Hawaiian name is Kulani. So glad you didn’t do that one.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

They’re back. But I had to leave the site and return. Weird stuff happens here sometimes. Part of the Great Mudflats Mystery…

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Walt Monegan for Governor? Now that has a nice ring to it.

15 11 2008
Anonymous

lock pepper in honolulu (16:30:54) :

Hopefully silence from the oclibrul indicates she has listened to her BFFs!
———
We can only hope. I like your lock pepper name better, too, btw. Just has a good ring to it, somehow.

15 11 2008
Bea

ocliberal, hoping you and yours are safe and sound and into clear air with no burning about!

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Now I see them. Now I don’t. My posts are gone again. Think I will restart my computer and have a cup of artemesia tea and see if that helps. javascript:void(0);

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

oh wow… have been wondering what to get Herself for xmas… have a couple items already but Trish’s post just reminded me how much she likes that Stay So Soft for keeping them skeeters at bay.

Anyone ever try to get Sarah Palin to wear that? Maybe that’ll make her skeeter away. …

(sorry but as Eyes Wide knows, corny humor is one of those pennsyltuckian things)

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

oh that naughty spam filter… just ate 20 or so posts, including all of mine that posted during the past 30 or so minutes.

15 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

This is the cutest thing I’ve read all month!!!! Thanks!

And it made me realize – I have not had one day without SP in my thoughts since September. No wonder Ihave a headache!

Senator Walt Monegan – Governor Walt Monegan – both have a nice ring to them🙂

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

OT, but also important: Today were supposed to be anti-H8 rallies across the US. I’m hoping that our mudpals will report back if they attended. Think maybe that’s where asiangrrrl has been the past 24-36 hrs? Takin’ care of h8?

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27702300/

Has anybody seen this? As an animal lover, it speaks to me…hope you like it, too!

Love to all my BFF mudpuppies!

15 11 2008
BigPete

UK Lady

Are you the Dave Edmunds UK Lady?
Would that mean that we have only one UK Lady?
Isn’t it a bit late?

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

sauerkraut, You just made me laugh and spit wine!

and you reminded me….one day while flipping through
radio stations, I heard a caller on one of the talk shows.
Might have been the local NPR or the local FOX, not sure.

This lady remarked that she felt SP was “probably a nice
enough person…someone I might buy Avon from….but
no way I’d ever VOTE for her”….it cracked me up!

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Hi Big Pete – yeah it is I, the Ol rocker – Old habits die hard, I am a real night owl. Good to see you.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

(avitar test)

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

#%$^#&^##^#$^@%^$@%^ I HAVE TRIED FOR DAYS NOW AND CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHY MY AVITAR WORKS IN FORUM BUT NOT HERE!!!

15 11 2008
Trini

OT: Bec in Illinois: I love your recipe list but I can’t figure out how to add to it. I wanted to include a recipe from my great-great grandmother on how to cure beef. So, with my gratitude to everyone’s indulgence in being off topic, here it is:

Dried Beef (how to cure)

For 100# of beef (or maybe moose or deer :))
4 Quarts pickling salt
2 oz salt peter
4 oz baking soda
1 quart dark molasses
2 1/2 gallons of water

Put salt and molasses in water and bring to a boil. Add salt peter. When salt is dissolved, add soda gradually. Skim off top. Put beef in crock and pour the brine over beef while hot. Let stand for 5 days. Take out beef and hang to dry in cool well ventilated place. It’s really good stuff! I remember as a kid sneaking strips off of the curing beef. It’s like beef jerky, only better.

Breaking it down for 15-20 lbs:
1 1/4 cups pickling salt
1 tsp salt peter
2 1/2 tsp soda
2/3 cup molasses
1 1/2 quarts water

Same instructions as above.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Trish is SW Fl

That was funny

“It’s Sara, Ding Dong, Avon calling” – now that sentence could be lot shorter. :

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Testing. (0);

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

What’s the secret to getting the code from those little critters in the forum to work on this blog?? I figured out I can drag them to regular E-mails?? But here???

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I’ve posted this before, but heck, I’ll post it again for those who missed my new definition for SWWNBN:

SWWNBN= Someone Who Will Never Be Nominated

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Anonymous (16:38:56) :

lock pepper in honolulu (16:30:54) :

Hopefully silence from the oclibrul indicates she has listened to her BFFs!
———
We can only hope. I like your lock pepper name better, too, btw. Just has a good ring to it, somehow.

Not sure why, but that was me, not anonymous.

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

OT

Anyone else watching escape from jonestown? Creepy! I was 15 and I remember how it upset me so much! Made my heart hurt and couldn’t sleep at night…

15 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

I am going to refer to Sarah as

SARAH WHO?

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Northern Exposure

Try typing in your comment box colonoopscolon but not colon the word colon the :

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

I heard on NPR that the Obama website got hacked in August by entities in China. Very weird. They said the McCain site also. That was about the time we lost daily digest communications among our groups. Right when Biden was selected and during the Dem. Convention and after for several weeks before it all got fixed. Put a damper on communications. Fortunately all turned out well in the end.

You suppose the Chinese have any interest in a swamp in Alaska?

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

😳

just testing

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Or would that be a virtual swamp in Australia representing an actual swamp in Alaska?

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

Jonestown: I have this odd peripheral connection. I was an intern with a small news agency in Washington DC called “States News Service.” We were located in a 3 story brownstone behind the supreme court building… building owned by lawyer – who at one time had done some work for Jim Jones. We were in the process of moving to an “official” office building when someone broke into the brownstone and ransacked the files after the suicides. We were told – the police suspected Jim Jones followers – and we had to keep the elevator in the new building locked – and had to show ID to get in to the agency. It was a frightening time.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Knock, Knock…

15 11 2008
austintx

I would’ve asked who his mean lawyer is……the one that is gonna take Sarah and her posse of fawning sychophants apart……call me asshole……..but he needs to stomp her…..just like a cockroach !!!!

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Trish

YaY!! :razzle:

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

jonestown… and so many have been drinking the kool-aid ever since… but not Sarah Palin.

Reminds me of an old Dr. Seuss story. … dunno which one it is but there it is, stuck upside my skull.

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

SWWNBN= Someone Who Will Never Be Nominated
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I like it, Eyes wide open!

At the same time, if she is nominated in 2012, that’s good news for us, right?

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

who’s there?

15 11 2008
UK Lady

F!*^%k!!

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

😳

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Sarah…

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Okay, now how do I decode the other cute guys?

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

When I first heard about Jonestown, I was going across the Tobin Bridge in Boston… in a greyhound bus. ugh, disliked those things about as much as I dislike both Palins and Charles Stewart.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Okay, now how do I decode the other cute guys? No this is not a duplicate comment.
Post please.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Lets see if this works –

icon text text full text icon full text
🙂 🙂 🙂 😆
😀 😀 😀 😳
😦 😦 😦 😥
😮 😮 😮 👿
😯 😯 😯 😈
😕 😕 😕 🙄
8) 😎 😎 ❗
😡 😡 😡 ❓
😛 😛 😛 💡
😐 😐 😐 ➡
😉 😉 😉 :mrgreen:

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

sarah who?
😳

15 11 2008
Bea

lock pepper in honolulu (16:57:31) :

OT

Anyone else watching escape from jonestown? Creepy! I was 15 and I remember how it upset me so much! Made my heart hurt and couldn’t sleep at night…
_____

I remember having nightmares when it happened. I watched the MSNBC special on it last week and, as an adult, was struck by how an experiment in racial eqaulity and social justice went so horribly wrong b/c the leader was driven mad by a combination of power and powerful drugs. So scary.

Interesting LA Weekly article on it here:

http://www.laweekly.com/2008-10-23/news/from-silver-lake-to-suicide

The writer bought a house that had belonged to the parents of some Jonestwon victims and they found an old suitcase full of letters and articles.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Eyes Wide Open, Sarah who?

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

“Is saraha doctor in the house?”

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

😉

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Sauerkraut: oh wow… have been wondering what to get Herself for xmas… have a couple items already but Trish’s post just reminded me how much she likes that Stay So Soft for keeping them skeeters at bay.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It’s called Skin So Soft and it works unless you’re dealing with “bird like” skweetos like we have in the Texas Bay complex and then they seem to enjoy it like soy sauce on roast duck! Sounds like Alaska moskweetos are like that–

In a pinch about what to get her? Jewelry always works–watches, bracelets, rings, etc…makes a lady feel feminine and special!

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Nope I’ll post the link – hang on

http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

UK Lady. Worked for you. What did you do?

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I need to find out how to make that devil happy face. Wish there was a lipstick on a pig happy face too.

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

lock pepper in honolulu (17:07:18) :

It’s called Skin So Soft and it works unless you’re dealing with “bird like” skweetos like we have in the Texas Bay complex
______________________

There’s a quick cure to “bird like” skeeters… it’s called the dick cheney method.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

If she didn’t want it and didn’t ask for it, is it still a gift??

15 11 2008
Kate in Canada

Living with a fire evacuation notice–
One cardboard box sitting in each room with the things you most need from that room in it.
Vital documents locked up somewhere else.
Insurance paid up.
The photos are a really good idea, for both documentation and sentimental reasons.
Critters under fairly tight control.
Know your alternative routes out of the area. Driveable gassed up car is pointing outward. Extra keys in it.
Communication strategy and/or meet-up strategy.
Decide early how long you plan to wait.
If your fire advisors plan a house-by house fight, remove brush from around the house and hose the roof down.
When leaving, we were told to close windows and curtains. Leave signs in the front and back windows saying no one remains inside.
Pray however you choose to.
Good luck.

After doing all this prep several times we have never actually had to leave. May you be so lucky.

BC sometimes had extreme fire summers. One year we donated our animal cages to the Noah’s something rescue that evacuated agricultural animals from a very large area. We offered to shelter animals but would have needed a training course to work as rescuers with the group.

15 11 2008
Zim in Oz

@ Northern Exposure (16:54:44) :
>>>What’s the secret to getting the code from those little critters in the forum to work on this blog?? I figured out I can drag them to regular E-mails?? But here???>>

Are you meaning these little critters ?
{http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies}

15 11 2008
Bea

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (17:09:05) :

I need to find out how to make that devil happy face.

___

Hover over any of the smilies in UK Lady’s post and you can see the code to make them. 😎

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Northern Exposure, HaHaHa, ask Ted Stevens.😆

15 11 2008
SMR

@Eyes Wide —

Here’s a link that Chief Shikago provided yesterday to those of us not in the know re: smilies

http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies

the devilish face is colon twisted colon with no spaces

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

<:-)

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Ah, at last, it is the real me in a happy face!😈

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

OK that was an attempt at a smiling devil… however, I also got scolded by word press saying I was posting comments too quickly…. and needed to slow down… if I am not careful I will be put in time out

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Been curious for weeks. How do I place an icon with my post?
Would appreciate the assistance. Thanks in advance.

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ UK Lady (17:05:49) :

O.K. You’re now officially out of control.😉

15 11 2008
kas from Oregon

🙄

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Thank you Bea, et al
😈

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ BigPete (16:46:13) :

I give in. I just can’t control my curiosity. How did you know that?

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Forty Watt – just trying to be helpful 😛

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ SMR (17:13:01) :

the devilish face is colon twisted colon with no spaces

Ouch! A twisted colon, you say?🙄

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Thanks, UK Lady. Now, what about all those extra smilies in the Forum? The dance and party ones? I saved the file, but can’t find the code behind them??

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

Eyes Wide – if you want a lipstinked pig with a happy face, just open one of those news mags and look for Palin…

this little lipstinked piggie went to the convention,
and this little lipstinked piggie went on to stump,
and this little lipstinked piggie told nothing but lies,
and this little lipstinked piggie got stuffed and so,
that little lipstinked piggie went crying all the way to Nome.
😳

15 11 2008
A Fan From Chicago

Did everybody get the e-mail from Mudflats today about the various communities that have been set up at this site: recipies, book clubs, your three favorite things, etc.?

I’ve been on this site almost since the begining and have a very unimaginative name. But there was almost no one here when I first checked in and that’s what I was. A Fan From Chicago. Still Am.

I came to watch AKM tiptoe through the muck of Alaskan politics. And have reveled in AMK’s ability to do just that. That will keep me coming back.

But I’m glad that there are places set up for people to share common experiences/thoughts/etc. Have at it, and enjoy eachother and learn and comfort and advance and grow.

I think separate forums, or whatever they’re called are a good idea.

This is a great, big community and I enjoy being part of it. I think the new effort by AKM to re-focus it is a good idea.

15 11 2008
Lee323

AKM…Your post made me kind of sad. My spouse died in an accident. I know lots of people didn’t know what to say, so they froze or turned the other way. I didn’t blame them but a nice comment, even superficial, means alot. Adds some positive resonance to the universe. Next time, don’t overthink the situation.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

For those who have read my various posts, which better fits me:

1. 😯

or

2.😈

-Eyes Wide Open

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ UK Lady (17:18:32) :

Forty Watt – just trying to be helpful😛

Your very presence among us is helpful.😛

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

:mrblue:

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

1

definitely 1

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

in re: sauerkraut (17:20:24)

cute

-eyes 😯

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

I can’t wait for mega to come in and scold us on our misbehaving…
😈

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Forty Watt – so kind😳

Big Pete knew I was an ol rocker because we had a chat a few days ago after I linked an old song from Dave Edmunds and the Rock pile from Myspace or you tube called “I hear you knocking, but you can’t come in”, with respect to SP and all those freaking doors she was banging on about.

15 11 2008
Zim in Oz

“Sarah Palin’s failure set to reap her $7m book deal”
{http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5162538.ece}

I thought the constitution in Alaska disallowed HRH, the ‘fair’ Gov from a private income whilst still ‘The Governor’ ?

$7m is a lot. Do you think she will give up the job ?

15 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Bea–
I went to the LA times site on Jonestown…excellent article…very disturbing. So Sad….

15 11 2008
MonaLisa (in CT)

Eyes: both! (But😯 is better!)

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

This sure beats the pre election anxiety and angst😥 we all had here.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Sauerkraut – Me, I’m looking forward to mega trying to bully Bigslick😆

15 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Trini – and anyone else wanting to post a recipe (AKM — how about one from you?!!)

You do need to be a member of the forum – so just sign up, if you haven’t already. Then, you need to be signed in, and you will be able to see a reply button at the top and bottom of the page. Hit that – and you’ll get a box to write your post. You can even go back and edit it. A nice feature I’ve already used many times!

I’ll post your recipe from above, just in case, but hope you can participate with another one.

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,3693.0.html

15 11 2008
MonaLisa (in CT)

Zim: AARRGGHH!!!

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

ocliberal–How’s it going down there?

15 11 2008
Blue in MT

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

Showcase of the various rallies around the nation against Prop8. Makes me wish I lived in Missoula.

15 11 2008
UK Lady

Have to go to bed now – hope we hear from ocliberal soon, will check in the morning. Have fun with the smiley people, and if you find out how to get the party/dancing ones let us all know. G’Night.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Lee323—sorry about the accident and your loss. And thanks for sharing.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

sauerkraut–ha,ha,ha, ha, ha, ha

15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ UK Lady (17:28:48)

Thanks. Nighty night. :-*

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

If I have done something to tick someone off, I apologize.
Thought it would be easier for me, (not extremely comp. literate),
to request assistance with the emoticon issue. That is why I asked
for help. Guess I’ll figure it out eventually. Thanks all and my
prayers are with those close to the fires in CA.

15 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Deuce 2, most the answers to your question are already in the posts–so people might have thought you might have read them already??

Use the link from UK lady to find the code for wordpress.com posts.

I find that some of these work in my own regular E-mails, some not.

The hover over the smilie thing doesn’t work on my computer.

But for my E-mails I can drag the party/dance icons right into them. Not here though.

15 11 2008
Bea

Blue in MT (17:35:54) :

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

Showcase of the various rallies around the nation against Prop8.
___

It was GREAT to see all the protests around the country (and even in The Netherlands!).

15 11 2008
Anonymous

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (16:51:45) :

#%$^#&^##^#$^@%^$@%^ I HAVE TRIED FOR DAYS NOW AND CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHY MY AVITAR WORKS IN FORUM BUT NOT HERE!!!
—-
I think you need to go to gravitar.com, upload your avitar and e-mail, and then sign out. Check e-mail, do what they tell you, sign out. Come back here, make a fresh start.

15 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

hmm…
😳

:blush:

15 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Zim in Oz (17:28:48) :

“Sarah Palin’s failure set to reap her $7m book deal”
{http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5162538.ece}
I thought the constitution in Alaska disallowed HRH, the ‘fair’ Gov from a private income whilst still ‘The Governor’ ?
$7m is a lot. Do you think she will give up the job ?
____________________________________________________________
Once the libel lawyers have been through the manuscript it would be a very skinny book.😉

15 11 2008
Nisperos

Hey mudpups! I went to the forum and posted a recipe earlier today. Then, later, I got on the 1st 100 for the Mudflats exchange thingy. Then, I PMed the lead with real name and address.

Then, all of a sudden, McAfee notified me that a PUP (potentially unwanted program, like spyware or a keylogger) had been downloaded on my computer which I removed when I noticed. Anyone else have this happen to them? Is a program downloaded the first time you try to PM on the forum? Is someone possibly attempting to hack the forum? Hope not. This is the first 1st PUP download warning I have received in years. In addition to McAfee (3 products), I also run Spybot. Someone more techie than I have any clues? I just deleted my browsing history and am running a full scan.

15 11 2008
Trini

Thanks for including the recipe Bec!
I’ll try your instructions this time. I think the old recipes are best. My next will be my great-grandmother’s spritz cookie recipe. In time for the holidays! I usually bake about 50 dozen every Christmas (with help of course) and they go so quickly. Oh, and for the Kaluah recipe…I have one, but instead of liquid coffee, I use instant coffee. It makes a difference.

15 11 2008
Nisperos

My quilt color just changed too…

15 11 2008
Nisperos

The chameleon changes back…

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Northern Exposure: Thanks for the info. I will follow your advice.
Didn’t mean to seem like an ass. Hope I didn’t come over like that.

15 11 2008
katanalori

Alaska prop. 8 protest today, here are the pictures – sorry if already posted, I am in Los Angeles area, lots of smoke here – went to fire station to bring food for when the brave firefighters return.
http://northernvisions.smugmug.com/gallery/6563290_Wn7HL#417695802_xBrRb

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Why I call myself: Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA😯

During this recent election I have been thinking alot about Plato’s “The Allegory of the Cave,” from “The Republic” I was forced to read in college over 30 years ago.

I imagine of the prisoners in the cave as those Joe six packs today who drink red koolaid and mindlessly watch Fox News while the GOP pickpockets them. We mudflatters have all crawled out of the caves, We each have our eyes wide open and we see truth and reality for what it is.

BACKGROUND:
http://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave

I LOVE THIS MODERN COMMENTARY:
The rare individual escapes the limitations of that cave and, through a long, tortuous intellectual journey, discovers a higher realm, a true reality, with a final, almost mystical awareness of Goodness as the origin of everything that exists. Such a person is then the best equipped to govern in society, having a knowledge of what is ultimately most worthwhile in life and not just a knowledge of techniques; but that person will frequently be misunderstood by those ordinary folks back in the cave who haven’t shared in the intellectual insight. http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/plato.html

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Anonymous (17:46:57) :

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (16:51:45) :

#%$^#&^##^#$^@%^$@%^ I HAVE TRIED FOR DAYS NOW AND CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHY MY AVITAR WORKS IN FORUM BUT NOT HERE!!!
—-
I think you need to go to gravitar.com, upload your avitar and e-mail, and then sign out. Check e-mail, do what they tell you, sign out. Come back here, make a fresh start.
———-
Hell, that was me, too. What’s with my anonymous status tonight? Probably mistyping my e-mail or something.😦

15 11 2008
SMR

@Deuce2 —

Why do you say that? I didn’t see anything that would lead me to think that, hope you didn’t!

When you say emoticon do you mean the smilies? If that’s what you mean here’s a good link:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies

If an emoticon is something else, like a picture, I am the wrong person to ask, have never figured it out!

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Thank you Anonymous for the avitar advice, I’ll try that. By the way, you must really be rich. Seems every time I see some list of donors to charity, I always see you in it.

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

katanalori (17:58:33) : Thanks so much for the pics! I guess you weren’t there if you were in LA.
All: Any pics/ reports from other locations yet?

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

Keep yourself safe, Katanalori.

Do you have any pictures posted of what it looks like from where you are?

15 11 2008
Oklad

Obviously Walt is no’ Joe The Plumber. He hasn’t tried to catapult himself into the limelight..

I have only read about the man and seen a couple of short video clips of Walt being interviewed here and there but he strikes me as a caring, spiritual human being . Unlike some others I could mention..:)
.
.

15 11 2008
SMR

@katanalori-

Thanks for the photos and for helping out the firefighters!

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (18:04:38) :
doin’ my darndest not to be anonymous. fingers crossed.

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Northern Exposure:
Thank you so much for posting that information for me. I really do
appreciate it.🙄

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

Hey Deuce… when you start thinking yer an ass, just keep this in mind: Sarah Palin thinks most of us who comment here as asses. But then, she sees on in the mirror every day… and, like most asses, every time she opens her mouth, road apples come out.

15 11 2008
MonaLisa (in CT)

lol @😯

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

good lord… I’ve spent so much time reading about Sarah Palin that I now type just as she sounds. …
😳

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

I do like your new avatar, MonaLisa. 8)

15 11 2008
Nisperos

&==& &==& park benches
_i _i _i street lamps
(_) ] coffee mug

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Trini (16:52:08) :

I am a technoidiot, but I got onto the forum by using the link to the recipe forum. Then I registered (about the same as regular mudflats); I post recipes by clicking on “reply”- it sets up a message box, and some wonderful mudpuppy incorporated fonts, etc to use.

ocliberal and all other calipups- be safe, far away from the fires. It is not fun to be burnt out of a house- my beloved stepmom accomplished that feat when she emptied fireplace ashes into the garage trash can, along with Christmas wrapping paper (1972). Good thing Dad had increased insurance coverage two weeks before…funny now, not so much then.

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (18:04:38) :
I forgot to mention that wordpress requires that you have an “alloneword” name. But once you are set up, as long as you are signed out of wordpress, and as long as you use the same e-mail you used to sign into wordpress/ gravitar, you can KEEP whatever name you want as your mudflats name. Hope this helps…

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Zim in Oz (17:28:48) :

Dang- on the last thread, UK Lady, a couple of other creative mudpups , and I came up with a great book title and a way to share the profits. I didn’t think SP was smart enough to do this on her own:)

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Has it been a full 24 hours yet? I think we need to send out a missing person report for asiangrrl.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Thank you the problem child, I will try a little later. I need to sign off for a while.

15 11 2008
katanalori

Zim in Oz (17:28:48) :

“Sarah Palin’s failure set to reap her $7m book deal”
{http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5162538.ece}
I thought the constitution in Alaska disallowed HRH, the ‘fair’ Gov from a private income whilst still ‘The Governor’ ?
$7m is a lot. Do you think she will give up the job ?

YES, I think for $7m she might – what a joke. what a waste of money, she has nothing to say! Did you see (in the article) where a “feminist” said SP was “very smart” and people who do not see that are the dumb ones? Banging ny head on table……………
smr – too dark to take pictures now – still smoky, but cannot see blazes here in west San Fernando Valley.

15 11 2008
Bea

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (18:04:38) :

Thank you Anonymous for the avitar advice, I’ll try that. By the way, you must really be rich. Seems every time I see some list of donors to charity, I always see you in it.
____

You reminded me of one of my favorite high school yearbook entries ever…

“Who IS that Anon guy? He has the best quotes.” 😆

And yes, PAGING asiangrrl! We miss you sister!

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Why I call myself: Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

********************************************

What a coincidence. Just recently my son had to write a short paper on “The Allegory of the Cave,” which I helped (considerably) to edit. Didn’t make the connection at the time, but perfect analogy!!

15 11 2008
katanalori

I would be surprised if asiangirl gives up on all of us due to two trolls – has anyone seen her today? I am worried too.

15 11 2008
ira2

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (17:58:56) :

[…]
I LOVE THIS MODERN COMMENTARY:
The rare individual escapes the limitations of that cave and, through a long, tortuous intellectual journey, discovers a higher realm, a true reality, with a final, almost mystical awareness of Goodness as the origin of everything that exists. Such a person is then the best equipped to govern in society, having a knowledge of what is ultimately most worthwhile in life and not just a knowledge of techniques; but that person will frequently be misunderstood by those ordinary folks back in the cave who haven’t shared in the intellectual insight. http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/plato.html

Ahhh… well… some people just kinda drift on in at that realm with very little torture or intellect to note in their travel journal. It’s much less recognized that way, though, just as with artists who can’t add “tortured” or “starving in the attic” to their resume or with early Christians who just lived on somehow without getting fed to the lions.
It’s an interesting concept that torture and sacrifice seem to be a requirement for recognition of achievement. Nothing good comes easy, and all that. I wonder if we haven’t developed that mindset to make non-achievement feel less like losing or cowardice (which it’s not, of course, but we don’t see it that way.)

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

And yes, PAGING asiangrrl! We miss you sister!

Yes, please come back!!!!!

15 11 2008
Nisperos

( ) ) = ( wine glass
,,,^..^,,, cat looking over fence (with claws)
#:o\:o/:o\:o/:o/ll totem

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Lee323 (17:20:40) :

You have my sympathy- I’m sending you a hug. My parents died of cancer, and I know how much a word, even one that’s awkward, means-

15 11 2008
Lin in AZ

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA
I liked your analogy using the allegory of the cave: I’ll keep it in mind.

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

SMR & sauerkraut, Thanks for the posts. sauerkraut, I no longer
consider myself an ass at all.

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

asiangrrl-
We miss you and want to know you are ok; I especially miss your honesty and insight…

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

I hear the PAC, Our Country Deserves Better, plans to run this video during Thanksgiving.

http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/index.html

They describe her as an “articulate, straight-forward and uplifting champion of common sense and conservative ideals.”

This video is pre-Lauer, Blitzer and Gov conference: scarycuda.

Our Country Deserves Better alright and GOT IT!!! LOL.

15 11 2008
mmboucher (Florida)

😕

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

Dragon Lady – thanks for that alert. If the ad comes on, I plan on switching channels.

as to Asiangrrrl… I looked thru posts and comments but, given the volume youse (we?) post, I cannot find whatever might have upset her. Perhaps it’s just an early hour right now for her and that’s why she’s not here? Or, perhaps her SO took her out to dinner and the movies? She impresses me as being thicker skinned and tougher than the trolls who sometimes still visit.

15 11 2008
Irish in FL

sauerkraut …. I agree….don’t think trolls would upset her to the point of not posting…………………

15 11 2008
Nisperos

OK, can anyone think how to do Barack Obama?

= l : – ) Abe Lincoln
& : ^ ] Ronald Reagan
= : 0 ] Bill Clinton
: ´ } Richard Nixon

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

sauerkraut – the upset was the Prop 8 discussion the other night. One poster was saying she was against it because Christians will always choose God’s law over man’s law. It all went to hell in a handcart after that.

15 11 2008
MonaLisa (in CT)

saurkraut: Thanks! (Photoshop is a girl’s best friend!)

15 11 2008
proudgranny

Re: Jonestown… A terrible event, but like the holocaust ,one that needs to be revisited from time to time to remind us of that truly evil people live amongst us.
If we were ever to propose a list of smart, compassionate, knowledgeable, capable Republican Women who could be suitable for the VP job I’d put Congressman Jackie Speier on the list.

Good luck to Rick Sanchez in his efforts to publicize the incidents of racial hatred becoming more commonplace on the streets of North America. Ironic that we can criticize the Iranians & Afghans for their atrocities when we do not clean up our own back yard!

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Dragon Lady (18:47:56) :

Was the poster a troll? To make such a statement, assuming to talk for all Christians…that poster (not related to That One) did not speak for me, as I don’t see God making such a pronouncement about marriage.

I hope intolerant posters troll themselves over to like-minded bogs.

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

oops- I meant “blog”, but maybe it should be a bog-

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Good grief, no word from OC Liberal since (15:38:23) : – I am goind to assume that she and her family bugged out and that they are safe and sound. It sounds like they were ready to go.

Did something happen to Asiangrrl? It sure is odd that she is not here???

15 11 2008
empish (wasilla)

Back to Walt Monegan, I simply would have said HI! and may I take this opportunity to shake your hand and thank you for your service! Then I would probably have mumbled something like Sarah just Cant Understand Normal Thinking.

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Hey, Lock Pepper in Honolulu:

I like your name – I have the same Palin name so I feel a kinship with you!

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Sauerkraut – I read back and see what you wrote. Thanks.

15 11 2008
sauerkraut

CO Almost Native (18:53:47) :

I hope intolerant posters troll themselves over to like-minded bogs.
__________________

I am sorry and I know it’s probably a typo but that is so darn funny!! into the bog they go!

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

And Eyes Wide Open:

(Sorry, I am just catching up with all the posts, I am probably behind the current chatter)

I like both icons for you, but if I remember correctly weren’t you just the eensiest bit competitive with me over which state (PA or VA) was “ground zero” as the campaign wound down?

Is there a hidden devil in your nature? Maybe you could alternate between the two icons…

From,
Your fan in VA🙂

15 11 2008
Nisperos

Come back again Asian Grrl! I wasn’t here when the junk happened, but as before, I’ll re-post this YouTube link in sympathy:

“Defenders of Marriage” by Roy Zimmerman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bja2ttzGOFM

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Dragon Lady (18:35:55) :
I checked out the PAC- two of the organizers are Kooligan, who started the (CA) Recall Davis Gray campaign, also a Reaganite and Russo- another Reaganite.

Could someone please boot this PAC onto the mudflats?

proudgranny-I agree!

15 11 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apples Palin

For my last post of this evening, I will revert back to my Palin name because… well, because I can!

And yes we can!

… keep making fun of Sarah Palin and her First Dud.

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

sauerkraut (19:01:14) :

Freudian slip, I’m sure (heh heh)

15 11 2008
MonaLisa (in CT)

( (c: )

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Hi all,
I sent a message just now to asiangrrrl through the forum. I hope she gets it. It kind of looked like I might be sending her an anonymous e-mail, so i hope her e-mail spam filters aren’t too good.😉 And I hope she is okay.

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

Irish in FL (18:46:53) :

sauerkraut …. I agree….don’t think trolls would upset her to the point of not posting…………………

No it was trolls some one name Bernice and someone else……chief was there and he left and right after that asian left…..

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

suchanut – see my comment at 18:47

CO Almost – troll? I don’t think so. This is a diverse community and I think Sue began just saying she was against Prop 8.

She got heated responses, screamed Freedom of Speech and it all just went south. That was when she made her God’s law versus man’s law statement and it went off the rails.

Sue signed off as did her one semi-supporter but by then asiangrrl signed off too and the thread went to hell and everyone went to bed in a bad mood.

I didn’t mind someone saying they were against it or uncomfortable with it. When I, however, am in a room with 12 people who hate Hillary Clinton I just save my breath to cool my porridge.

So, I am not sure she is a troll but should have known she was on a liberal blog.

We haven’t seen asiangrrl since then though.

Don’t read the post; it will only depress you; that is how bad it got.

We’d have all felt better if it had been a real bar room brawl with beer. As it was, all we got was the hangover the next day.

15 11 2008
katanalori

I found (at Salon.com) a new (better?) abbreviation for Sarah than SWWNBN:
PDOTN
Princess Dumbass Of The Northwoods
PDOTN PDOTN – I like it!

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Re: asiangrrrl,

I am probably missing something since I have not read all the comments posted in the past few days, but don’t you think she might just be out having fun on a Saturday night?

Is there a specific reason to be worried about her? I know for me, a mom of three, posting on this forum is a big highlight, but if I’m not mistaken, I think Asiangrrrl might enjoy a more carefree lifestyle…

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

sauerkraut……. went back 7 threads and could not find a post by
asiangrrrl…. could it be that she deleted some way? hope not, I
will truly miss her posts… seemed like such a wonderful person.😦

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Dragon Lady,

To which thread are you referring?

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

PDOTN- now that’s an acronym I can live with!

(At the same time I have to confess that SWWNBN confused me for a while until I got up the courage to ask what it meant…)

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Dragon Lady (19:08:40) :
Thanks for the explanation; I missed all of that while I was in Omaha. There is an explanation of the Mormon influence on Prop 8 on Huffington Post tonight; pretty depressing- also looks like the “No” group weren’t very organized.

Huffpo has info on the Southern CA fires- more than 500 dwellings destroyed. Yikes. I pray all of the Calimudpups are safe, away from the flames.

15 11 2008
Irish in FL

Irish in FL (18:46:53) :

No it was trolls some one name Bernice and someone else……chief was there and he left and right after that asian left…..

wow…I still find it hard to believe trolls would chase her off……she seems to be much stronger than that………………

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

sauerkraut…..Don’t know how true this is, but source is considered
reliable. Sign on wall safe in Governor’s office.
Governor does not know how to open safe.
Seems that one of her staff added a note to the sign.
Or speak English language and perform simple
mathematical problems.
😆

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Reality check: Is it just me or does it seem that SP is less in the news everyday?

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

asiangrrl was very upset that night……most of the time she is like the center of the storm ….seeing both sides….but yaa she was upset that night…..but i really did not expect her to stay away……I really though she would come back on after the other two went away

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

mhrt –

Trolls you think? Yes, couldn’t remember Bernice’s name and can’t remember what she said.

I couldn’t decide that night if they were trolls or just naive and thought this blog was Thanksgiving with your relatives where people throw dinner rolls and stab each other with butter knives over politics.

Trolls are usually in the Tone – sarcastic, deliberately provocative.

I did think at the time when you get a naive Lone Wolf maybe just leave that one poster in the wilderness and don’t get into an argument. No offense meant to dissenting opinion intended.

15 11 2008
Seachele99 Hussein Barack

@ lock pepper in honolulu (16:57:31) :

I have watched several of the Jonestown documentaries this week. I remember it vividly, and I was only 10 years old. It still sends chills down my spine.

15 11 2008
BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin

Sarah Palin is to The Republican Party and The US Government what William Hung is to American Idol and the entire Music Industry

She Bangs.

15 11 2008
katanalori

Suchanut – YES, it seems SP’s 15 minutes is ALMOST up – today only a couple of pics at Florida poolside in VERY SHORT SHORTS and the proposed 7m dollar book deal. Bad enough, but at least she is not EVERYWHERE. Even the idiots are recognizing that she is an idiot!

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

@Suchanut:

“Reality check: Is it just me or does it seem that SP is less in the news everyday?”

+++++++++++++++++++++

I think you’re right. It’s the slow fade. People are beginning to be much more concerned with stuff that actually MATTERS, like what President-Elect Obama has planned….

15 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

I did go back through the posts and found the one where the discussion got heated. It was on Thursday night and the discussion was about prop 8. I was lurking there that night. I was thinking of posting but then it was really emotional so thought better of it. It is rather interesting to go back and read it slowly. I am sorry not to see Asian girl sign in. Hope she’ll be back soon.

15 11 2008
MizKay

katanalori (19:08:57) :

I found (at Salon.com) a new (better?) abbreviation for Sarah than SWWNBN:
PDOTN
Princess Dumbass Of The Northwoods
PDOTN PDOTN – I like it!
______________________
Thanks for the LOL – on that note I’m off to bed. 😆
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btw the upset was on the Alaska-rally-against-prop-8 thread. There were 2 people posting who were very righteous (and therefore condemning of others) in their comments.

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Here is the link for Huffington Post the two articles are pictures on the front page- scroll down, and you’ll see them, click on the titles.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Deuce2 AL (19:18:03) :
LOL! doesn’t that fit SP, you betcha (wink wink)

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

katanalori (19:08:57) :

That is the perfect title for Her Governoress:)

‘G night to any and all mudpuppies still blogging-

15 11 2008
MizKay

@BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin (19:20:33) :

Sarah Palin is to The Republican Party and The US Government what William Hung is to American Idol and the entire Music Industry

She Bangs.
__________________________😆

and NOW I’m off…

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

This is what started it the other night:

“Bernice (19:48:28) :

What?? is the world going MAD? It seems everything and everyone is in an uproar about something ALL over the world! Is there not one nation known to be at peace?

I’m sorry, but gay marriage is one of the last issues I want to promote, especially when there is so many other issues far outweighing us as a whole. I do know this comment is not a popular one, but I am not in favor of same sex relations anyway.”

As far as I could tell – this is the only post Bernice wrote. After this it all went to hell in a handbasket. I had never seen her before, and it was really weird that she was like the third post on a new thread….I couldn’t figure out where she came from.

15 11 2008
MizKay

ok, I lied. I’m still here.
suchanut, I just read the whole thread, and she appears again almost at the end.

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

El and everyone- the asiangrrl MIA posting was on Prop 8 as El says –
you do not want to read it, you just think you do.

Politics and Religion, dreadful.

Politics, Religion and Sex?
They ought to be my three favorite things but not mixed together!

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

Dragon Lady (19:19:07)
I really do not remember it all….but on this site most are really kind to each other….like not noticing my spelling…..but that night it was not nice…..and asian knows it was not one of us….. I don’t know if bernice was a troll or not but she was for sure Fundie sounding just like SWWNBN

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15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Definitely Fundie sounding…that’s why I was so curious about where she came from….a mystery forever, I guess.

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Hi, Marty!

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Suchanut – I’d forgotten what Bernice said – not in favor of same sex relations.
One wit wrote back: Then Don’t Have Them 🙂

But it was Sue who got into how Christians vote, etc., etc., freedom of speech … and finally about God’s law comes first.

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Who is Joey B?

15 11 2008
MizKay

‘the Biden blunder scale goes to 100’ hahaha!

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

SNL not on here for 4 hours! LOL!

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Dragon Lady – you are right….

15 11 2008
More Light than Heat

I also sent asiangrrl a PM from the Forum — told her that she’s missed. I, too, hope she’ll return. I enjoy her posts.

RE: fires … latest news is that it just jumped another major freeway in Orange Co. And our access to the LA basin is cut off due to the Sylmar fire approaching some major power lines that serve LA. The 500 home count is low. There were 500 modular homes alone that were destroyed last night in the Sylmar fire. Another 50+ apts in Anaheim Hills (a complex that has about 250 units), 30 in Yorba Linda, 10 in Anaheim, 14 in Corona. Corona, Yorba Linda, Anaheim Hills, Brea are all the same fire. The wind was carrying embers up to several miles, which is causing a lot of the structure fires.

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

hi ya deep… joey biden? was the imposter of course..

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Dragon Lady:

I agree, I think that “then don’t have them” argument is pretty compelling. How does gay marriage threaten “traditional” marriage? The answer: it doesn’t!

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Oh – the guy who does Joe Biden is sooo good. The debate skit was so funny.

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Bernice was trouble, but nothing that couldn’t be fought off. I was not present at the time, having gone to bed, but didn’t see a big fail when I got up the next day. Still hope asiangrrrl was just off protesting and hasn’t rested up yet.

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Hmm.. I don’t recall a single Barbie story on the news today. Could that be possible? And a wonderful thing that would be.

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

By the way, I am always plugging 538 and Andrew Sullivan on here, but I swear there’s no self-interest in it…

Please read Andrew Sullivan’s blog today. He has posts from all around the country (and a couple international) about Prop 8 protests. Amazing photos and descriptions from readers…

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/

15 11 2008
MizKay

ED commercial on SNL – too funny!

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Sproingo.com.. think it’s time to reserve a new domain..🙂

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

so you all see it got nasty……not mudflats at all…..that is why I was thinking troll….but I am surprised that she has been gone this lone……..

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Oo – thanks for the heads up on SNL. I knew I was waiting for something! I am that brain dead.

We all need a laugh.

SPROINGO – maybe that is what SP meant if the people of Alaska send her an audible.
(East Coast here laughs; everyone else says hunh, what’s she talking about? You’ll see. LOL)

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Sproingo Sarah.. When you need to know that she’s headed your way..

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Sorry but this current sln script is creepy

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15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

well tell me about it – I’ll go to bed early!

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

sucha,,, imagine makin out with your dad.. hows that? creepy enough?

15 11 2008
CO Almost Native

if Chief Shikago is here-
I went back and read the thread I missed, and there you were: Proudfully Palinese Interpretation Services, llc.

I know I, for one, can use interpretation of SP, otherwise known as PDOTN; I would sure hate to misinterpret her words, you betcha.

Read Sue and Berneice, and the responses to them- I thought asaingrrl and the rest who were there were articulate and respectful (when deserved), It amazes me that people don’t understand that it is ok to hold personal, religious views- but not ok to impose them on everyone else. (I really liked the analogy involving no divorce and stoning adulterers- listening, McCains?)

15 11 2008
Irish in FL

mhrt oregon (19:38:41) :

so you all see it got nasty……not mudflats at all…..that is why I was thinking troll….but I am surprised that she has been gone this lone……..

ok…went back & found the thread(s)…..still find it hard to believe it’s keeping her away……even though, you’re right, it did get nasty….funny, that….prop 8 got all this publicity, when in FL we took three steps forward turning “blue” but two steps back by passing exactly the SAME thing as prop 8 and virtually nothing’s been said regarding it….strange………………..

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

yicks… that sounds bad…. you said it is about joe b

15 11 2008
Bea

proudgranny (18:52:45) :

Re: Jonestown… A terrible event, but like the holocaust ,one that needs to be revisited from time to time to remind us of that truly evil people live amongst us.
If we were ever to propose a list of smart, compassionate, knowledgeable, capable Republican Women who could be suitable for the VP job I’d put Congressman Jackie Speier on the list.

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I agree that Speier is great but, lucky for us, she’s a Democrat!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Speier

15 11 2008
Greytdog

Watched part of the Jonestown special – the lessons from that place still resonate, not just because “drinking the kool-aid” is now part of the lexicon of our country. But because it really shows the ultimate conclusion of group mindset coupled with fear and despair. Of course, the other extreme of that spectrum are the wingnuts who form their fear-laden militias, blow up buildings in OK city, murder doctors and nurses, etc. That was the most jarring part about the McCain/Palin campaign – the realization how close to the surface hate runs . . .and runs so deep. All those folks needed was “permission” to voice their hatred, their anger, their fear – who knows what might have happened if Palin had joined the ticket months earlier?

15 11 2008
MizKay

@ Deep Blue in VA (19:37:10) :

By the way, I am always plugging 538 and Andrew Sullivan on here, but I swear there’s no self-interest in it…

Please read Andrew Sullivan’s blog today. He has posts from all around the country (and a couple international) about Prop 8 protests. Amazing photos and descriptions from readers…

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/
___________________________________________
Thanks big blue for posting this – I spent several minutes there reading all the posts. Very moving. Some of the couples at the church I go to may have been at the one in my city – I was out of the loop on the rally, but at least I’ll be able to converse about it with them tomorrow.

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

MHRT – no, joe b is Not Kissing his father- don’t start Repug rumors

A skit about a kissy family; one joke, never got off the ground.

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

OK….a kissy family is great IMHO…..we need more of it……..thanks….it still does not come on here for a couple of hours

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Okay since we are revisiting bad vibe posts –

Who got that stuff started about Trig/not Trig? The point of the postings were whether SP was deceptive. One person (again) went nuts saying it was about Trig and to leave him alone, completely missing the point. That one went off the rails too.

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Dragon yea,,, without Barbie, SNL is back to it’s inane crap.. Lorne Michaels must be angry the election is over!

15 11 2008
15 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ Deep Blue in VA (19:37:10) :
Please read Andrew Sullivan’s blog today. He has posts from all around the country (and a couple international) about Prop 8 protests. Amazing photos and descriptions from readers…

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/

__________________________________

There’s a pic of the protest in Anchorage. I feel proprietorial even tho’ I’ve never been to AK.

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Dragon Lady (19:58:11) :

Okay since we are revisiting bad vibe posts –

Who got that stuff started about Trig/not Trig? The point of the postings were whether SP was deceptive. One person (again) went nuts saying it was about Trig and to leave him alone, completely missing the point. That one went off the rails too.

I’m not sure, but there was a joke made about Trig being left in the overhead compartment on the jet. I think that might have had something to do with it.

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I don’t think anyone’s had anything bad to say about any of the palinettes.. The problem isn’t with the kids, it’s how Stepford Wife and Daddy Snowman abused the kids for personal gain. That’s what’s so sickening about them.

Loving parents would not have subjected them to the horrid things they did, regardless who actually gave birth to Trig.

The kids will be in therapy for a long, long time..

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Dragon Lady – yes – that was another bizzaro thread….

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Marty – Nothing like the original SNL.
Like the Beatles or better still, Dylan, you had to be there babe.

I haven’t watched SNL in years. Their writers just don’t have it; the skits have one point usually undeveloped and they go more for shock value than any biting social humor.

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

SMG, not nice but i can fully appreciate that visual. Barbie could EASILY forget him.. If he didn’t have his own Secret Service Detail, he’d still be at a rally in Oshkosh..

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

Dragon Lady (19:58:11) :
———————–
i can’t remember….yes you are right it also got very heated…….and no one was saying any thing about Trig…..It was just about how he got here……who would not want that cleard up…..unless the answer is really bad……

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

My parents sat that night when The Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan and said they couldn’t imagine music like that lasting. Silly parents obviously didn’t know stuff..

When my kids mentioned some crap they liked, I said remember The Beatles and lets see if your music is still around in 30 years and they said ‘who’…?

Wasn’t sure if i should have laughed or smacked em.🙂

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

SNL was good back in the days of ‘excuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssss me’
Or.. I’m Gumby Damnit…
Hi, Im Chevy Chase and you’re not.
Rosane Rosanadana…RIP .. sigh..

There were a lotta funny bits.. been a long, long time though

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Speaking of therapy – doesn’t a DS infant usually begin occupational therapy almost from birth?? Or am I just misinformed?

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

SMG.. his therapy started ages ago.. Holding him in crowds and lights and machines and scaring him to death, like a sack of potatos was therapy…

Geeze, the uniformed don’t know anything..
😉

15 11 2008
Augie

Marty (20:02:17)
Yes, those kids are going to NEED therapy…but they’re never going to GET therapy. So sad.

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

hmm.. wow.. what a voice.. and how many women would wear a dress cut that way?🙂

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

SMG
we need to remember SP may not think that way…..she is fundie……god gave us this baby this way …for a reason..and that is ok…….she had no problem with keeping the other kids out of school for months

15 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Nisperos (18:47:43) :

OK, can anyone think how to do Barack Obama?
– – –
How’s this?

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15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

:mrgreen:

I wanted to see if this would work

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Suchanut_AK

it did – wow – I did html or whatever it is…

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

I love the ears…….

15 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

😳
Oh noes!
His ears didn’t space properly. Should be even with his nose.

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

the ears are good

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

I had only caught up on the Trig birth post but wish I had been there.

I am only interested now because SP is a bigger fraud that we imagined.

I would however feel badly if Bristol were doubly humiliated in front of the entire world. Still, if he is her baby I hope she has the courage to stand up and claim him. She is so tender and loving toward him, unlike Someone.

My 78 year old mother thinks Palin a disgrace more for carrying Trig like a sack of flour and using her children as props than anything else.

For me – it was the hate-mongering, rabble rousing over Ayers that makes me want to decorate her room in hell. It went beyond hardball politics to threatening someone’s life. And she doesn’t care if it will put her in the White House.

15 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Good night all. Keep the homefires burning, unless you are in SoCal.

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

I love the little blusing smilie

15 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

. ~
( : > )
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15 11 2008
SMG - MN

OT, saw this on Daily Kos today…it’s a good read, albeit pretty sobering.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/15/14522/489/761/661316

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15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

good night problem child………sounds like i am talking to my own kids………

15 11 2008
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15 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Obama election spurs race crimes around country

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081116/ap_on_re_us/obama_racial

is it in your town?

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

ok,i admit i snagged it….;)

but isn’t it cool???

15 11 2008
Augie

Whoa! Marty! Well done!!!!!

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Very cool Marty!!!

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

I have come to the conclusion that I am going though Barack withdrawal. In the days leading up to the election, I could watch him speak 5 times a day – and I did. Since he was elected – nada. Ok, yes, there is still stuff out there and there is the wonderful radio address….

But I need more…..LOL!

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

OK deal me in…

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Shikago! 🙂

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Shik bad hand to get dealt in.. got pocket AA..🙂

15 11 2008
katanalori

scroll down to second article, very interesting! Not surprised at evidence of gross incompetence, but the stories never seem to end:
http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/09/governor-sarah-palin-and-juneau-power.html

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Heya, I see a nice new nut here🙂 way to be Suchanut!

15 11 2008
mhrt oregon

SMG
awhile back I saw somthing like that but it was about a newspaper that showed a wounded child from bush’s war….and a mother called in to cancel her paper because her kids saw it on the front page….and she was out raged that her children had to see something so terrible…..so what the paper did was to start to print more pictures……i sat there and cried the entire time and looked at the pictures….I think if any one wants to be in a war then then need to be there….look at the pictures …work in the hospital……

15 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (20:15:10) :

Cute. You got the ears. Scroll back to MonaLisa (in CT) (19:05:23). Was that also an attempt? Looked like a rounded head top.

Or this, which would be combining the 2 and adding a tie?

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15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

katanalori (20:27:54) :

Very interesting, kat….thanks for that

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

That is cool Marty!

15 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Shikago – I am trying to find the perfect hexnut photo…..:)

15 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com (20:22:27) :

OK, you win…

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

katanalori (20:27:54) :

scroll down to second article, very interesting! Not surprised at evidence of gross incompetence, but the stories never seem to end

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Guess she forgot to blink again…

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Nisp, i liked yours.. and mine was lifted..🙂

Oh yea, and Beyonce is so hot..🙂

15 11 2008
Suchanut

later all….

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Shikago – so good to “see” you again!!!

15 11 2008
Nisperos

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15 11 2008
mary

I know you didn’t have much time but, you should have said something, if you were able. Supporting comments mean a lot to a person who has had to live through this type of nightmare. I swear, so much of the problem these days is that people don’t speak up! I will never be that way again, as long as I live, because I personally lived through a situation quite similar to his. It changed my life in many ways, but I think very importantly in a way that I will never be silent, ever, when I see injustice. Ever. Amazingly, the largest concern that the govt had was not the money they had to pay to me, but that I REMAIN SILENT. Ha Ha. Someone should tell those dumb heads that there is no such thing as secrecy when you spend taxpayer dollars! Especially for silence!

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

SMG – MN
So good to be seen, Thank you!

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Suchanut_AK -Whats more perfect mean? I am great at farming online… whatcha need?

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

katanalori – that’s one Palin story I had not heard. It’s been commented that at 18 months she was not in office long enough for the criticisms to start rolling in.

She doesn’t care. Life is a beauty pageant and she only wants the crown and red roses.

After that Daily Kos story above, what does it say about our country that people like Palin are elected? It is like a soap opera. In fact, during the election more than one person said it was like watching American Idol instead of the Fate of the World is at Stake.

Where is Paddy Cheyefsky when you need him? Watch Network today and it is even truer now.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hey no Asian yet???

15 11 2008
Cynthia, TX

Suchanut_AK (20:25:50) :

I have come to the conclusion that I am going though Barack withdrawal. In the days leading up to the election, I could watch him speak 5 times a day – and I did. Since he was elected – nada. Ok, yes, there is still stuff out there and there is the wonderful radio address….

But I need more…..LOL!
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Funny you mentioned that! I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I went to the campaign you tube page to get a fix. LOL!!!! I guess I really don’t have a life.

15 11 2008
More Light than Heat

@ Chief
No, no Asian, yet. Several of us have sent her PMs from the Forum, but she’s laying low…. Too bad. She adds a lot of fun and insight. Hope she’s just busy with today’s H8 rallies and that she’ll return energized.

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Well, Palin may be going gently into that good night….or not so gently – but I’m still waiting for justice to be served. She needs to get what’s coming to her. I can’t help it. I’m still obsessed. Any Alaskans still here?

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Chief Shikago (20:45:40) :

Hey no Asian yet???

We were all wondering (and worrying) about her earlier. Asiangrrl, where are you???

15 11 2008
annie

HURRY a must SEE…..SP in Miami

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Good evening Chief: Check this out. Obama as FDR.
Makes for a good laugh.:lol:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20081124,00.html

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

More Light than Heat (20:48:29) :

@ Chief
No, no Asian, yet. Several of us have sent her PMs from the Forum, but she’s laying low…. Too bad. She adds a lot of fun and insight. Hope she’s just busy with today’s H8 rallies and that she’ll return energized.
– – – – – – – – –
I am really, really, hurting for her. More reason for me to dislike christian wingnuts. Sorry, and I’m a little Presbyterian, but just a little.

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Shikago – we debated earlier whether asiangrrl was still upset about the other night; see previous. Maybe she is out protesting. Hope so.

SMG – I am obsessed also. I wish I had kept a campaign journal when we were all terrified. I want her to be an international joke. Being a laughingstock and getting older are the only things that would matter to her. Just wait until people say: she looks good for her age.

I loved the Governor’s Conference. Thrilled as I was with the Blitzer interview, SP without the redneck crowds, designer duds, stylist mumbling over a speech written by a 10 year old to a room of her peers was priceless.
“You don’t like me; you really don’t like me.”

Oh – and which governor told a reporter that she could be the sacrificial lamb of 2012 and one called her Britney Spears!

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Deuce2 AL …Aahh yea! He should get a smoke holder like FDRs just to tick-off the righties.

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

@Chief:….. I like the thought behind your post.:roll:

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

“Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party (19:58:27) :

Dragon yea,,, without Barbie, SNL is back to it’s inane crap.. Lorne Michaels must be angry the election is over!”

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Actually, I think Palin gave SNL a lot of ‘new material’ this week, with her continued campaigning, 😉

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Smiley test.🙂

15 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

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15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Dragon Lady (20:59:42) :

Shikago – we debated earlier whether asiangrrl was still upset about the other night; see previous. Maybe she is out protesting. Hope so.
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Me too, she add’s so much here.😦 For Asians sake I am going to post somethin…

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

testing

:thud:

15 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

😳

ears hanging way low on that one…

15 11 2008
Cynthia, TX

Oh missed SNL. what happened? anything funny about Palin?

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

sorry bout that…my thud smiley doesnt work here….do the IMG ones work?

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Speaking of material – I saw this mentioned the news but hadn’t seen the actual footage. Dragon Lady, if you haven’t seen this, I know that you’ll appreciate it.

http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/11/80-of-us-republicans-want-palin-to-run.html

15 11 2008
annie

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/

This is even better thank SNL

15 11 2008
Dragon Lady

I cannot hold my eyes open any more.

I close with this link that ties Palin, McCain, Prop 8, Bill Ayers, and Joe the Plumber into one. I had not heard this story; where was I?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-karel-bouley/explain-how-do-you-explai_b_144099.html

Sweet dreams pups.

15 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

O/T
Was reading article in the Immortal Minority about Wooten
apparently getting re-assigned again by the looks of it

one of the comments posted in The Immortal Minority:

In ADN today, comments section under this article, there is a trend with many people understanding Palin now has a NATIONAL REPUTATION AS A LIAR AND that it is she and not Walt Monegan who lied under oath. This is causing many to rethink Wooten’s position. Yes, he IS a victim of this sick woman and has been demonized NATIONALLY BY HERE WHEN HE IS TRYING TO HAVE CUSTODY AND CONTACT WITH HIS CHILDREN. I doubt many would hold it together as he has with Palin as an enemy. There is some talk that Palin’s anger is not just to protect her sister–who remains mute thru all this–but that perhaps she and Wooten had a tryst or perhaps he turned her down. Palin is taking this far more personally it seems than Molly, the ex-wife.

Wooten is as much a victim here as Monegan, Bittney, Lyda Green, the Wasilla Librarian, John McCain, Trig, Bristol, Palin’s mayoral mentor years back etc etc.

This evil woman leaves a “trail of tears” whereever she goes.

IMPEACH HER, RECALL HER, drive a stake through her heart, replace her lip gloss with glue—strip her and leave her naked in the woods with wolves, polar bears and angry moose.

read more @ http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/
or http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/589916.html

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

@Chief: Say Goodbye To Blackberry? Yes He Can, Maybe,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27740220

15 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I’m off to bed kids..

Lets hope that no more of our Californian mudpups lose their home in the dark fires tonight or tomorrow. And hope for less wind, and little humidity!

I know when i say ALL mudpups are praying for you guys, it’s true..!

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

I haven’t watched SNL in years. Their writers just don’t have it; the skits have one point usually undeveloped and they go more for shock value than any biting social humor.

+++++++++++++++++

In my opinion, SNL still has its moments, but for the most part, its skits go on waaaaaaay too long and are not that funny to begin with.

Sad, because I remember making a point to watch it every single week 20 years ago when it was comedy gold.

I hope it one day regains its former glory…

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Chief: You may like this article about Obama’s Blackberry.
Seems his staff doesn’t want security problems and New Pres
will cease to use so much technology.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27740220

15 11 2008
Lacy Lady

Just read this thing and I am sooooooo mad I could scream:!!!!!!!!!!

Is Obama a U.S. Citizen?
No Birth Certificate/School Records
Donate for full-page USA TODAY ad

http://www.WeThePeopleFoundation.org

Who in the HELL are these people???????
Looks like they want to incite violance——where is the FBI????

15 11 2008
Nisperos

Good night dragon lady. I think I’ll crash too.

@ Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (21:06:14)

I just thought (rather than ears hanging low), that of you turned your head sideways right rather than sideways left, those tildes on the sidea were shoulder of the shirt to go woth the tie…

15 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Good night to all US mudpuppies (of which I am one) – I hope to chat with you tomorrow.

International mudpuppies – keep the dream alive!

15 11 2008
Nisperos

“if” rather than “of”

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Lacy Lady: What a bunch of A$$holes these people are.👿

15 11 2008
Nisperos

“sides” rather than “sidea” too – obviously sleepy

15 11 2008
Nisperos

OMG – if I just keep re-reading my post, there are even more typos. Good night all!

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Lacy Lady: What a bunch of A$$holes these people are.👿

15 11 2008
Nisperos

GN Deep Blue too!

15 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Lacy Lady: those people, not these

15 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

O/T & wandered into spam bin — 😦
Was reading article in the Immortal Minority about Wooten
apparently getting re-assigned again by the looks of it

one of the comments posted in The Immortal Minority:

****In ADN today, comments section under this article, there is a trend with many people understanding Palin now has a NATIONAL REPUTATION AS A LIAR AND that it is she and not Walt Monegan who lied under oath. This is causing many to rethink Wooten’s position. Yes, he IS a victim of this sick woman and has been demonized NATIONALLY BY HERE WHEN HE IS TRYING TO HAVE CUSTODY AND CONTACT WITH HIS CHILDREN. I doubt many would hold it together as he has with Palin as an enemy. There is some talk that Palin’s anger is not just to protect her sister–who remains mute thru all this–but that perhaps she and Wooten had a tryst or perhaps he turned her down. Palin is taking this far more personally it seems than Molly, the ex-wife.

Wooten is as much a victim here as Monegan, Bittney, Lyda Green, the Wasilla Librarian, John McCain, Trig, Bristol, Palin’s mayoral mentor years back etc etc.

This evil woman leaves a “trail of tears” whereever she goes.

IMPEACH HER, RECALL HER, drive a stake through her heart, replace her lip gloss with glue—strip her and leave her naked in the woods with wolves, polar bears and angry moose. ****

15 11 2008
katiebegood

Northern Exposure (16:38:22) :

Walt Monegan for Governor? Now that has a nice ring to it.

Especially if he beats Sarah Barracuda to get there! Wouldn’t that be fitting justice.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Good Night Nisperos

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

“Especially if he beats Sarah Barracuda to get there! Wouldn’t that be fitting justice.”

Now, that would be just perfect! 🙂

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

HUGS, mudpuppies!

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Just to keep the post election schadenfreude juiced, check out Frank Rich in the Sunday NYT. .http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/opinion/16rich.html?ref=opinion

15 11 2008
trish in SW FL

it is past 130am here….I need to get some rest.

keep the faith and love going!

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Just to keep the post election schadenfreude juiced, check out Frank Rich in the Sunday NYT. The Moose Stopped Here .http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/opinion/16rich.html?ref=opinion

15 11 2008
Bea

I’m off to bed too. Hope we’ll be seeing our dear asiangrrl tomorrow and she’ll tell us that she was just off having a fun weekend and we are all a bunch of worrying ninnys.

-Bea
Charter member of MWRMAG
(Muddpuppies Who Really Miss AsianGrrl)

15 11 2008
Bear Woman

Re: Asiangrrl

I e-mailed with her early today.

She is just angry from the other day on H8. She is also busy writing for a deadline. She indicated she would be returning; just needs to regroup.

Asiangrrl, if you read this, please don’t be angry. I am only reassuring the rest of our Muddies that you are okay.

@ocliberal
Hope you and family (including pets) are well. We know you will get back to us when you can.

To all SoCal readers:

Be safe, be well, know that we are with you and will help as we can…..

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Lacy Lady
Deuce2 AL
Have an idea, whattya say the three of us start a Obama Has No Birth Certificate contribute for full page ad in THE NY TIMES??? See, then we send it to the Christies, and they send us their credit card numbers!!! Come on, it’s an awesome idea. Like buying tickets on e-bay to the inauguration for $1000. Stupid bloody Americans!

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Good night Bea !!!

15 11 2008
paperwghts

Deep Blue in VA (19:02:03) : From,Your fan in VA
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Hi, sorry but I was logged off. Nice to hear from you. -Eyes

katanalori (19:21:11) : YES, it seems SP’s 15 minutes is ALMOST up – today only a couple of pics at Florida poolside in VERY SHORT SHORTS and the proposed 7m dollar book deal
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Not by her choise. I think the media is as sick of her as we are. Narcissist that she is, I suspect she will et more and more outrageous just to keep the camera on her. Expect go see her as a Fox talking head. -Eyes

CO Almost Native (19:45:34) : It amazes me that people don’t understand that it is ok to hold personal, religious views- but not ok to impose them on everyone else.

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I agree, that’s why I say to the pro lifers, “If you don’t believe in abortions, then don’t get one.” -Eyes
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. (20:02:17) : The kids will be in therapy for a long, long time..

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I cannot read the “Mommie Dearest (Deerest)” tell-all book someday-Eyes

Suchanut_AK (19:31:55) :SNL not on here for 4 hours! LOL!

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I would rate tonight 3.5 out of ten. -Eyes

15 11 2008
paperwghts

Bear Woman (21:34:58) : She indicated she would be returning; just needs to regroup.
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Pun? -eyes

15 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

I wandered off to the spam bin twice tonight —
so am just going to say Night night to all

With a special ((hugs)) to Asiangrrl & Chief Shikago
hope you are both back with us soon.

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ATTENTION MUDFLATTERS!

Thank you for all the concerned messages you’ve been sending me. Y’all are the best.

I want to apologize for losing my temper the other night. When I get mad, I blow like Mount Vesuvius. In the future, I vow to try to be more like President-Elect Obama and be cool, even when I’m upset.

I want to let you know that I took yesterday off to collect myself because I didn’t want to spew more anger on the board; you guys deserve better than that. I did read AKM’s entries, and i always planned on commenting again. I was going to do it earlier tonight, but I didn’t have access to the internet while babysitting my best friend’s daughter for the night. So, here I am, at my usual time, letting you guys know that I am here, I’ll be fine, and you can’t get rid of me that easily. The Mudflats and the Mudflatters are very important to me.

P.S. Old Dyke, if you are still lurking, someone tipped me off to your post. Your words touched me. Thank you for what you said. You are right; things will change. Please post more often.

P.P.S. Now I am actually going to read comments.

15 11 2008
paperwghts

Welcome back Asiangrrl. We were about to organize a search party and issue an amber alert.

15 11 2008
Marnie

AKM I don’t want to think about Palin either. Maybe her kiss off by the other Repub governors will make her go away. But there are so many Repugs that keep saying she is the future of the Repocons that I think we all need to stay scared and alert.
So Please take a weekend off from her now and again but keep tracking her and keep letting the rest of us know where she is and what she is doing.

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

paperwghts, thanks. Considering that I’m over twice the legal age for Amber Alerts, I’m afraid that would have failed.

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Asiangirl … don’t get mad, get even and remember that revenge is best served cold. We have your back.

15 11 2008
SMG - MN

Asiangrrl, you just made my day. So glad that you’re back. But now I’m fading…so…fast. Hope to see you tomorrow. And hang in there. It’s a long, slow battle, but it WILL happen!

Hugs to all, and to all a good night. 🙂

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Bear Woman (21:34:58) : & asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN

Thank you, I started writing a story about her brave battle the other night, she was absolutely correct on Prop 8, and especially her defense of OUR constitution. I have gone back over that thread 10 times since studying each comment. SHE WAS RIGHT. The 2 Christies were dead wrong, as is Prop 8. My hope is that it will be overturned again, and she will be vindicated. Many of us here have all experienced discrimination first hand, it’s not pretty.

Incorrectly quoting the bible to support their narrow minded far right wingnut position doesn’t help. These same people would have to vote in favor of stoning women to death because they had sex before marriage, according to the word of the Lord in the bible, that would include Sarah Palins daughter/s.

Anyway, yes Asiangrrl, we are upset about these people who are hell bent on shoving their beliefs down our throats, but, we value you, so much more then their temporary appearence and worthless ignorant opinions. We could get lot’s of that crap elswhere, if that is what drove us, it is not. You were right, still are, come back when you can.

Love, Chief Shikago

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

By the way, I have much admiration for Walter Monegan. I seriously hope he isn’t aversely affected for life as a result of Palin’s harrassment of him.

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Read the Rich article. It says everything about where the Repugs are going and it isn’t nice.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:57:29) :
Oh well $hit your here.😳

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Night SMG – MN

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMG-in MN, good night!

Bear Woman, I’m not mad atcha; I’m touched that you care so much.

Hick Town in PA, aw, I’m feeling the love tonight. Thank you for having my back. I am feeling better about this today.

Chief Shikago, bro, you absolutely rock. I don’t know what else to say, and that’s a first.

It’s good to be back in the ‘flats. I will play nicely….for now. 😉

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Hick town in W PA, I’m gone for one day, and I forget to include your initial. How rude of me!

Chief Shikago, see what awesome powers you have? You just think about me, and I show up!

15 11 2008
SMR

@LacyLady —

If you were in the FBI and wanted to know who the shi^^y people out there are who are fomenting hate, running a site like that would draw them like flies to shi^.

And even if it’s not an FBI site they can sure monitor the hell out of it, something that I have faith they are doing.

I have to say that my knee-jerk reaction to it would be MUTHAF—ERS! But those highly-visible sites are the least of the threats to Obama. Lots of wingnuts out there, not all of them on the internet…

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Argh! ociliberal, be safe. Sending good vibes all the way from MN to CA, plus, some of the snow we should be getting soon. Post when you can!

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

SMR – I think the haters are testing their limits. They are very self-righteous and were shocked to have lost the election. It was the same way when Clinton won. I lived in N VA then. Not nice. I worked for a company that was rabidly Republican in the days when “liberal” meant commie. It was a total shock to find out my boss also voted for Clinton was a secret Democrat. Clinton made it easy for the Republicans and nutbars. Obama will not.

15 11 2008
Zim in Oz

@ Lacy Lady (21:20:45) :
>>>Just read this thing and I am sooooooo mad I could scream:!!!!!!!!!!
Is Obama a U.S. Citizen? No Birth Certificate/School Records
Donate for full-page USA TODAY ad {http://www.WeThePeopleFoundation.org }
Who in the HELL are these people???????Looks like they want to incite violance——where is the FBI????>>>

I doubt the USA TODAY would print it. Contact them, it could be a hoax.

15 11 2008
ScaredExpat

What’s with the stupid FIRST comments…? go back to LOL cats… jeez

15 11 2008
paperwghts

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:57:29) : paperwghts, thanks. Considering that I’m over twice the legal age for Amber Alerts, I’m afraid that would have failed.

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Had the age thing figured out. We were just going to say you were younger.

(Its me, Eyes Wide Open. I tried to create an avitar tonight. I got things screwed up when I created a single name account to create a universal gravitar. Lost my moniker somehow)

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (22:05:39) :
You made me cry… I did miss you, geez was it only one day? So nice to see you. Yes, I too, will do what you said up there^. Try to be more cool, I like that.

15 11 2008
paperwghts

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:57:29) : paperwghts, thanks. Considering that I’m over twice the legal age for Amber Alerts, I’m afraid that would have failed.

Its me, Eyes Wide Open. I tried to create an avitar tonight. I got things screwed up when I created a single name account to create a universal gravitar. Lost my moniker somehow.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

ScaredExpat (22:20:05) :

What’s with the stupid FIRST comments…? go back to LOL cats… jeez
——–
pardon? UK Lady is a friend of mine.

15 11 2008
More Light than Heat

Welcome back, asiangrrl. So glad it was just a time-out. Were you at any of the rallies today? Report back, please.

Unfortunately, here in CA we can recall justices from our supreme court — it’s happened once before, and the haters are already threatening to do it again if the court overturns Prop 8. But even that won’t ultimately stop the inevitable. Not sure a recall will work. People are really upset at the fear and deception in the pro-prop 8 campaign. Much work to be done in the minority communities to frame this as a civil rights issue.

Been watching fire coverage all afternoon and evening. It’ll be days before it all ends… more high temps and low humidity for a few more days. Cooling off by next weekend…. Say a prayer for the firefighters. They’ve been going full bore since Thursday nite with much more work to do.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Oh EYES, for fu@ks sake… What did you do?

15 11 2008
SMR

Hi Asiangrrl —

Glad that you got my note, and glad that you’ve decided to brave the muddy waters again. Wasn’t the note that the de-lurker left you nice? I wish she would de-lurk again (hint: if you are here lurker we want you to participate more!). We missed you, we are glad you’re back. And I really really like your name, it’s beautiful. What does it mean?

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Eyes, could you rebuild using a slight change like Eyes Wide Open YesWeDid?

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Here some good coverage of the rallies across the country today .http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/16protest.html?hp

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Man, guys, I just read the entire thread, and now I know how to get attention! I really appreciate how y’all keep an eye out for me. You guys were on a funny roll today, and I want to thank you for it. It really made my day to see the whackiness that is Mudflats on a Saturday.

I did not attend the protest today because I had tai chi and babysitting and because I am physically sick. Has anyone heard from Whabs? She was going to the Seattle protest.

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh PA, I was wondering who Paperwght was, but I didn’t want to be impolite. Love the new avatar. Looks good on you.

More Light Than Heat, I am resolved. It will happen. Younger folks voted overwhelmingly against Prop H8 (69%), so one day. I am also ridiculously proud that Asians were the only ethnic group to vote more against than for it (51% to 49%). It surprises me, though.

I just want to say that Sue is not a troll. She posts here regularly.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

Is it me? Am I back?

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

paperwghts – I love your gravitar. Maybe you can leave it like that and start each post with 8-0

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

😯 yes

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

Hick, can you tell what the gravitar is?

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

😯

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hi Zim, this myth is so stupid, as I said above it’s a great way to collect money from idiots. I wished I had thought of it first. President Elect Obama’s birth certificate was exactly where it is was recorded in Hawaii when this first came up 4 years ago.

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hey EYES, looking good man!🙂

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, my real name? Well, it’s Chinese for love and beauty and such, and, I was named after the state of Minnesota because my parents were so grateful to MN for all it’s done for them.

You guys are cracking me up with all the smileys. This one is my favorite–
B)

Minna (my real name)

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

Chief Shikago (22:26:43) : Oh EYES, for fu@ks sake… What did you do?
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Thanks Chief, that makes me feel loved. Kind of like being back in my childhood. 😉

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

I have to say that marriage is over-rated in my opinion. However, I guess it is just one of those things you have to try before you know whether it is for you. Like Scotch or inline skating, It just seems like a silly thing for fundies, Catholics, and ESPECIALLY the Mormans to take a last stand on. Just saying ….

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

If anything, it’s John McCain who wasn’t born in the US. I was just talking about this today with people at my co-op. He was born in Panama, on a base, I think.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

Asiangrrl. When I was little, I thought my last name was “Behave” because my parents were always yelling, “Eyes, behave!” “Eyes, behave!”😯

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

Actually, for a while in my childhood I thought my name was Jesus H. Christ because I would hear : “Jesus H. Christ, what are you doing now?”

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Hick Town in W PA, that’s one reason it drives me crazy. I don’t want to marry anybody, and yet, it boggles my mind that I could marry, say, an inmate on death row if I wanted, but I couldn’t marry Rachel. Don’t I have the right to be miserable with whomever I chose?

Irish girl in FL, I think you were the one who mentioned the same law passing in FL. If not, someone did, and I’m not skimming to find it again. Anyway, I think the reason it’s such a shock in CA is because CA is supposedly so left-leaning.

The law that passed in Arkansas is actually more chilling: It forbids anybody unmarried from adopting children or from fostering. They, of course, are targeting gay couples with this law. The sad part is that before the law, they only had a fourth of the people needed for fostering. What’s going to happen now? Here’s the op-ed Dan Savage wrote about it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/opinion/12savage.html?ref=opinion

It also means that if I lived in Arkansas, I could not adopt my niece and nephews if anything happened to their parents. How does this help families?

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA (22:48:13) :

Actually, for a while in my childhood I thought my name was Jesus H. Christ because I would hear : “Jesus H. Christ, what are you doing now?”
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And that was followed by pursed lips and your full name spoken with scorn. Yikes. For years I have flinched if any one called out my whole name.

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Eyes Wide Open in Pgh PA, ah, the dulcet tones of parents screaming at their children. Now that’s a universal family experience! How did Jesus get the middle initial of H. in the first place? Horatio? Harold? Hamburglar?

15 11 2008
Bear Woman

OT

But PDOTN (Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods) as noted Wayyyyyy above, flew back to Alaska on Friday night. Wouldn’t you know it but about the time she was flying past the capital we were having a hellacious storm with winds of 65-75 mph. Guess she was throwing a temper tantrum on her way home to her sports arena in Wasilla.

Luckly she and the storm caused no damage so far…..

Fortunately she is fading out of the news, including in Alaska. Hopefully she continues to do so and learns to do her job, not make news headlines…..

Good night all! I know it’s early in Alaska, but I’m tired! Guess it’s from spending lots of nights reading the posts and staying up with the night kitchen (at least for a while).

Have fun!

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

This isn’t about marriage or families. It is about control, fear, and in many cases hate.

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Fangrrl squeal. Wanda Sykes is gay! I knew it! She’s on my celeb list–right behind Rachel Maddow. Too bad Wanda is married, too….

15 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

My father told me the H. in Jesus H. Christ stood for holy. He should know since he was Jewish. It always cracked me up as a kid.

My dad told me it was Howard! 🙂 AKM

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

Last thought before I log off.

TO AKM: How about a Mudflats Visitor Center someday for those of us vacationing from the lower 48?

-eyes drooping

15 11 2008
akmuckraker

Hi Everyone! New post and surprise LIVE CHAT!

15 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hey EYES I like it when Jesus says “Dad Dammit!’ he said that alot in the Bible.

15 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Night, Bear Woman!

Hick Town in W PA, you nailed it. I had an epiphany that it’s much easier to ‘fix’ marriage by denying certain people the right to do so than to, say, actually work on how terrible straight marriages are (in general). That way, the ones who are pointing their fingers don’t have to do anything about the matter other than condemn other people. They don’t have to look at why everyone they know is on his/her fourth or fifth marriage, is cheating on the spouse, is beating the kids, is a raging alcoholic. That would take time and effort on their part. Much better to say it’s teh gays’ fault!

It’s like abortion. Protest abortions, say you’re pro-life, cut funding for programs that actually help needy kids.

It’s power against other people, and it’s much easier than doing actual work to fix the societal problems that they decry.

15 11 2008
califpat

Welcome back asiagrrl: Actually I am more of a lurker than a poster but your intellect is not lost on me. You dont take a side of a debate so that you can go along with the majority and be popular. You actually state your case whether it is the popular among the posters and you stick to it. I have learned so much from you and am not surprised by your popularity. I missed you too. I was lurking during the Prop 8 dispute. I am so glad that you are back. You are truly an intellectual breath of fresh air.

15 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (22:51:51) :How did Jesus get the middle initial of H. in the first place?

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Oh, I am pretty sure it was Hussein. Jesus didn’t use it though as it interferred with his efforts in community organizing. -Eyes “shock”

Hick Town in W PA (22:53:49) :This isn’t about marriage or families. It is about control, fear, and in many cases hate.

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It is about Power. Hate is a great motivator. The GOP has used it for years as a tool to get power -Eyes “shock”

15 11 2008
15 11 2008
InJuneau

@Chief Shikago (20:26:04) :

Welcome back. I left you a message at the end of the last thread, prob. too late for you to catch.

asiangrrl–Welcome back to you too. Glad you’ve had a chance to regroup and are ready to be back. We missed you.

Hope to hear reports of anti-prop8 rallies and will check out the pics of the Anch. one tomorrow. Don’t think we had one here, though there was a Jump The Broom party here a month or so ago that raised a bunch of money for the group fighting it before election day.

SoCal Mudpuppies–stay safe and fireproof.

15 11 2008
califpat

Where is the new post and the live chat? (hunching shoulders)

15 11 2008
copybook realist

ocliberal (15:38:23)

i was thinking about you today as the fires loamed large in your area.

i hope that you are well and that your family is safe.

your friend in Irvine

16 11 2008
proudgranny

BEA: Well I feel really stupid but then I am Canadian! Thanks for correcting me on Congresswoman’s political affiliation & in such a nice manner & no I won’t give her to the Republicans even though it would be a tremendous improvement over Sarah.
I did some reading on her life post Jonestown and she is an impressive woman.

16 11 2008
proudgranny

BEA: Well I feel really stupid but then I am Canadian! Thanks for correcting me on Congresswoman Speier’s political affiliation & in such a nice manner & no I won’t give her to the Republicans even though it would be a tremendous improvement over Sarah.
I did some reading on her life post Jonestown and she is an impressive woman.

16 11 2008
womanwithsardinecan

Anybody have confirmation that OCliberal got safely out of the way of the fire? I know that panicky feeling of looking around and trying to decide what to take. Luckily, we didn’t actually have to bolt. Our near miss was a flood. We lived in a remote canyon in Arizona, and during the 2006 monsoon season we got hit with a hundred year flood. I woke at 4am to see water flowing in our yard. After some temporary panic and a quick inventory of what to take out of the house and put in the vehicle on the hill, we realized that the flood level was actually down a couple of inches from a high that occurred before we woke up. Whew. But the flood did take out all of the road, the power lines, the phone lines. We were cut off for 9 days, were on intermittent satellite phone (you alaskans know about those) for a week and a half, were without power for almost 3 months (we lived on 12 hours a day on generator), could only get in and out with 4WD for a month and a half, and my dog almost died from a post op infection while we were trapped (I satellite phoned my sister in alaska who called my vet and arranged antibiotics, which another person from the canyon picked up after she used an ATV to get out to a 4WD, but still had to wait until the waters were low enough to cross, several more days).
Anyway, I had a brief flashback when oc was getting ready to bolt.

16 11 2008
katek formerly cd

So many posts and this will probably not get read BUT

1) Ocliberal-hope you are all safe! [and everyone else in that area.]

2) AKM- you did the right thing in letting Monegan have his free time I think,
although if you had spoken a few encouraging works would have been right.

My two cents.

16 11 2008
Poetic Justice

Wouldn’t it be great if the Legislature recalled Palin and Moneghan was able to claim her seat….

17 11 2008
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17 11 2008
Lita

You are just so adorable, I love your stories.

I am so sure that Walt will eventually come to know of the work you are doing/have done to support the cause. And I’m sure he would then want to say thanks to you for your service.

Alaska is so the new black right now, it’s all over our telly, and I saw Bruce Willis attempting to hitch a lift on the ride to Wasilla on Letterman last night.




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