Palin on Goofiness.

10 11 2008

Welcome to the second installment of dissecting the Palin Wasilla interview. It’s kind of like eating junk food. If you consume too much at once, it can wreak havoc with your innards. So, now that I’ve digested that heaping pile of mental pork rinds, I’m ready for the next batch. (deep breath)

The theme for this helping? “Goofiness.” Are there other things we could be talking about? Yes. But Palin keeps bringing this stuff up.

Here are Palin’s thoughts about her perceived unfair treatment by the media.

Regarding information regarding my record that is now out there, much of it that was based on misinformation was a very very frustrating thing to have to go through when the record was never corrected. We would try to correct the record and too many in the media chose not to make those corrections or clarifications, and then I felt too often we were a bit defenseless in so many things that were reported wrongly that could have so easily been corrected just based on facts and…

Q: What kinds of things are you talking about?

Oh, like um, oh some of the goofy things like who was Trig’s mom…uh, you know and well, I’m Trig’s mom, and do you want to see my medical records to prove that…and days would go by before uh mainstream media would even try to correct that, that yeah, OK, it’s proven that she is actually Trig’s mom.

OK, I’m going to talk a bit about this since Sarah brought it up first. To answer your question Governor, yes. A big enough deal was made out of this issue, right or wrong, that YES people did want to “see your medical records to prove that.” Wouldn’t Palin’s life have been simpler and less “frustrating” if she had done this? These rumors started the first week of her candidacy….back in the beginning of September and have been a huge distraction and topic of discussion ever since.

Even Obama released his birth certificate, just to prove once and for all that he was born in Hawaii, and was eligible for the presidency. Seems silly to have to do this? Yes. Did it answer people’s questions and fears? Yes. Did it put the issue to rest once and for all? No. Because people were still unconvinced, the birth certificate was made public from the hospital in Hawaii where he was born. Done. Rumors put to rest.

Despite the comment above (in bold), Palin has never released medical records that “prove” anything. She released a doctor’s note summarizing her medical records. But let’s just say that’s good enough for us, and we believe that she is Trig’s mother. She released the doctor’s letter less than 12 hours before the polls opened on Election Day. So….how, then, did “days go by before the mainstream media would even try to correct that” and say “OK, it’s proven she’s Trig’s mom.” There were no days to go by, and nothing released that actually proved anything. So, why is she bringing this up? (shrug)

Wouldn’t you think that by now, she would have actually released her medical records, and Trig’s birth certificate, just to settle the question? The longer this goes on, the more bizarre it gets.

And take a look at what Palin is wearing in the video.

Palin’s father, Chuck Heath, said his daughter spent the day Saturday trying to figure out what belongs to the RNC.

“She was just frantically … trying to sort stuff out,” Heath said. “That’s the problem, you know, the kids lose underwear, and everything has to be accounted for.

“Nothing goes right back to normal,” he said.

Heath dismissed the clothes controversy as “ridiculous,” and said his daughter told him the only clothing or accessories she had personally purchased in the last four months was a pair of shoes.

And yet, there she is in her new designer duds. You can be reasonably assured that if it’s sleek, shiny and black, Palin didn’t own it before she left. Maybe she’s just getting one more use out of the rental gear before it’s all shipped back to the RNC. Wouldn’t you think after all the bad press over the wardrobe, that when she dressed for the interview she would have left the Neiman Marcus stuff in the closet? (shrug)

As much as babies and clothing are the least of our worries, for some reason, Palin won’t let us forget them, and continues to be her own worst enemy whenever she opens her mouth to the very media she accuses of being the problem.

(Still more to come on this interview….had enough pork rinds for now…..ugh.)

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339 responses

10 11 2008
Lori W.

She probably IS Trig’s mom – just not his biological mom – birth certificate would clear it up. Easy to show birth certificate, so why not? Huh Sarah?

10 11 2008
InJuneau

Ah, goodness, is she REALLY “ours”?

10 11 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

me three or some such number

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Dang, I had just posted this when the new thread came up. So here it is again.

Palin is practicing double speak. Smiling the whole while in an innocuous way. How could that sweet little thing be doing anything nefarious?

Batting her eyelashes and tossing her hair. Lord have mercy. The good old boys are reacting like . . . GOOD OLD BOYS.

Any way to get this to professional expectations as a focus? Any civilian suits possible? Maybe on behalf of all the other Alaskan state employees?

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

Pork rinds, huh? Just a few go a very long way.

10 11 2008
West Virginian

I’m wondering about those fancy red shoes!

10 11 2008
halcrow

Thanks, AKm.

Obviously she believes that if you babble BS often enough it gets accepted as fact: unfortunately, a lot don’t (and the more she trots out the BS, wearing those ‘returned’ duds, the more who will lose faith with her).

10 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Yeah, I think that slick black blazer thing still had one of the RNC’s flag pins stuck to the lapel, also. Can’t imagine Neiman Marcus would take back something damaged.

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

the problem child (a jerk, also) (16:29:59) :

Yeah, I think that slick black blazer thing still had one of the RNC’s flag pins stuck to the lapel, also. Can’t imagine Neiman Marcus would take back something damaged.
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Looks like she lost the polar bear – he’s probably been consigned to the North Slope.

10 11 2008
katek formerly chin duststrap

Why is she still bringing up Trig if she thinks that story is over? Despite the fact that it looked to me like Levi & Bristol were awfully enamoured of the little guy at the RNC and SP carries him like a sack of potatoes, I think she is his mother.
The smart thing would have been to release something official from the hospital.

She sure looks mighty fancy stirring her moose stew. Her dad said they were sorting through the kids’ underwear? UGH.

10 11 2008
aeroentropy

Seeing her wear that polar bear pin always frosted my cookies….

10 11 2008
ira2

So the campaign money paid for underwear for the kids? Wow. That goes right along with Toddie’s silk boxer shorts… why we didn’t see any of that stuff on stage? I mean, since these purchases “were necessary for their public appearance” and all that?

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

aeroentropy (16:35:23) :

Seeing her wear that polar bear pin always frosted my cookies….
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She’s either learning or reading this blog. I know she’s not learning, so……….

10 11 2008
nocalgal

@Denise
“Palin is practicing double speak. Smiling the whole while in an innocuous way. How could that sweet little thing be doing anything nefarious?”

Now if these “reporters” would just ASK THE FOLLOW UP questions and KEEP asking til she answers or further reveals herself as the fool she is….

GO AKM!! Keep the heat on.

10 11 2008
AlaskaGuy

Small doses please AKM. I don’t want to throw up either.

10 11 2008
nebraskanative

Hi Puppies… just bought the Newsweek that was online (incomplete tho) and spent most of the boring afternoon training I attended reading it. Finished the rest just now, and it is so worth it. Many memories, tear. laughter… we were there and now it’s in print. I’m not so worried about Palin rearing her head again, this issue put her selection into perspective– the appeal to the far far fringe right— and I am not sure that will work again. And obviously it didn’t work this time either. Anyway, I am feeling relief and hope and am excited for our future—the Palin-free one 🙂

10 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

I’m reposting this, as it was pretty far down the last thread and I think it properly belongs with the “goofiness” discussion.

re: banning Harry Potter.

I think this is a classic case of misdirection on SWWNBN’s part.

The complaints about her banning books never specified which books she tried to ban (although a local pastor has a pretty good idea that his “Pastor, I’m Gay” was on the list).

Noooo… the HP banning rumour (and it listed all the Potter books) was part of a viral e-mail list of books that was out and out ridiculous (Huck Finn, Farenheit 914, Proust, all the usual suspects were on there). It was blatantly a put on. NO ONE in the MSM paid any attention to it except to debunk it.

So, misdirection — “Oh, those silly rumours, they even said I’d tried to ban Harry Potter and no one came to my defence!” But, yes, the evidence is that she tried to ban books. Just not specifically the one that she mentions.

She also fired the librarian, at least temporarily. Sounds familiar. Yeah, Barbie, we’ve got your number.

10 11 2008
Lulu

Oh, Alaskans, I feel your pain.

10 11 2008
JBDC

EXACTLY! on the trig issue. this is the exact point i made in the last message. she never released anything even closely resembling medical records. wasn’t that doctor’s note from the same doctor who supposedly delivered trig, and remarkably received a governmental appointment to some medical board or commission from SP?

i don’t know about you guys, but in high school that excuse from your parents that got you back into school when you were “sick?” —- yeah, mine wasn’t always legit either.

10 11 2008
Pea pie

Why are none of the fashion bloggers pointing out the vintage (recent) of these clothes? Gofugyourself has let me down.

10 11 2008
halcrow

@ katek formerly chin duststrap

Her dad was playing the child-abuse card (snatching the still-warm thongs off of the grandkids’ butts). Unfortunately, dummy that he is, he forgot that most parents (or grandparents) provide their own kids with underwear, and don’t expect the RNC to do it for them.

10 11 2008
ira2

katek formerly chin duststrap (16:34:13) :

Why is she still bringing up Trig if she thinks that story is over?

Ditto ditto ditto. The lady protesteth too much, doesn’t she? She’ll elaborate on those stories which she denies, with something long and convoluted designed to make a point why the stories aren’t true, and failing miserably to do anything but reinforce people’s convictions that she’s lying through her teeth.

10 11 2008
nebraskanative

Yeah… children’s undergarments, not to mention Todd’s new silk ones? Ew… TMI.

10 11 2008
Lana, KY

I never purposefully put myself through so much torture before Sarah came on the scene, but tonight I plan to watch grrrrrrrGreta do the interview with the gov.
I intend to have plenty of barf bags and cold rags on hand & maybe a large glass of Kentucky bourbon.
Probably should just go out and stand in traffic.
What is this horrible morbid fascination ?

10 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

It just occurred to me – Sarah reminds me of this woman I once knew from Hot Springs Arkansas. Mother of three. In her immediate family, her word was law. Even if her side of an arguement made no logical sense whatsoever, Caroline would have her say, end it with “And that’s it. Done” And everyone in the room, outsiders included, understood that ‘mother had spoken’ and that was the end of the discussion. Period.

*Maybe* Sarah has ruled her roost for so long she doesn’t actually realize the world, as a whole, does not work the same way.

I am still waiting for the reporter who doesn’t let her get away with not answering the questions posed. I keep wishing for that one glimmering ray of hope when a microphone is neared Sarh’s face during one of her verbal diarrhea episodes and a voice is heard saying “That’s wonderful. Now – we are still waiting for an answer to the actual question… I can repeat it for you if you like.”

And stop letting her change the subject. Please.

10 11 2008
braveny

reposting from last thread:

Hmmmmmm from Yahoo News/AP comes this tidbit:

“Amid speculation in Alaska and nationwide about Palin’s political future, the governor has scheduled a series of national interviews on Fox News Channel on Monday night, NBC’s “Today” show on Tuesday and CNN on Wednesday. She also plans to attend the Republican Governors Association conference in Florida this week.”

(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_el_pr/palin)

10 11 2008
ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck

put me down for a donation for the ads, PAC, or other activities….i am sure i have some taco sauce somewhere in my car pocket….

palin has trouble with 21st century politics — she thinks she has fixed her “misinformation problem” and for some reason the reset button on the media playback just doesn’t reflect the “correctedness of the very very frustrating times there, also”.

hey i’ll match the first $250………..stillHARDrock
no time like the present to do a bit of our own “record correctedness”

10 11 2008
Repeal Prop 8

So, based on earlier post, it’s not looking as though the Alaska State Legislature has the, uh, desire, to press very hard on these ethics issues. I know there’s been one civil (?) suit brought, what is the recourse if the legislature won’t act? Recall originates with citizen petition, right?

Sheesh, people…

10 11 2008
nebraskanative

If this is fiscal conservative behavior, I have some shopping, followed by a bailout. That’s how it works, eh? And oh, BTW, has McCain told President Elect Obama where Bin Laden is and how to get him? Remember that?

10 11 2008
Mel

Most of the crap about whether she or Bristol is Trig’s mom, as well as the list of books that supposedly banned (including numerous books not published at the time she was mayor) didn’t hit the mainstream media anyway, but were purely viral email & blogosphere. The reason they didn’t hit MSM? — because they were at best unproven allegations, & at worst bunk.

But there are a whole lot of other lies that were widely reported as lies in the MSM because (1) Palin kept repeating them & (2) they were verifiable as lies. E.g., “I said no to the Bridge from Nowhere;” her claims about steering clear of earmarks; her claims about being a fiscal conservative; her claims that the legislative Troopergate investigation cleared her of any wrongdoing.

Notice how she didn’t bring any of those up in this most recent interview.

10 11 2008
nebraskanative

ack… shopping to do– followed by a bailout. Brain is way ahead of fingers.

10 11 2008
Alex

She thinks she proves things by claiming them, then gets mad when the media points out that she’s lying and refuses to believe her anymore.

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

If Palin is not living in reality—-she spins fairytales and acts like she inhabits them as a princess, assuming her loyal subjects will oblige the pretence—-bring the muddy reality to Palin.

10 11 2008
DeMo

Lana, KY (16:41:33) said:

“I never purposefully put myself through so much torture before Sarah came on the scene, but tonight I plan to watch grrrrrrrGreta do the interview with the gov.”

G-d speed, Lana, G-d speed.

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

“With 18,271 questioned ballots so far, the campaigns for Stevens and Begich are asking their supporters for help with the additional expense of lawyers and observers during the canvassing. Each ballot is reviewed by a two-member board composed of a Democrat and Republican, and each side is entitled to an observer who can challenge a ruling. Unresolved issues can be brought to court.

In an e-mail to supporters Thursday, Begich campaign manager Heather Rauch said the campaign needs to raise another $50,000 “so we can keep the campaign going until the final votes are counted.”

Also on Thursday, Stevens campaign manager Mike Tibbles e-mailed supporters seeking a total of $75,000 “to cover the costs associated with the final vote counting and review of questioned ballots.”

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/582699.html

10 11 2008
264 Crayons

Her sweater outfit in the office is definitely one of hers – it literally hangs off of her. The home shot however looks extremely glammed up! Darn, do you really have to give back those boots??? Those were quite foxy – I can’t imagine having to donate those but I’m sure someone will snatch them up:)

10 11 2008
Dee

Yep, she sure looked different from that picture in the supermarket where she’s wearing the mismatched top and bottom and the mukluks and the totem pole earrings. Course that was all before her turn as Queen of the May. And, really, the RNC bought her kids underpants? Really?

10 11 2008
austintx

We have a saying here when someone is OBVIOUSLY lying…..you politely let them finish……..then very politely say “I am so sorry – but – I am calling BULLSHIT! right here and now” and then just stare……….

10 11 2008
Dee

Or as they say in the south when you’re a complete moron, “Bless your heart.”

10 11 2008
264 Crayons

eposting from last thread:

Hmmmmmm from Yahoo News/AP comes this tidbit:

“Amid speculation in Alaska and nationwide about Palin’s political future, the governor has scheduled a series of national interviews on Fox News Channel on Monday night, NBC’s “Today” show on Tuesday and CNN on Wednesday. She also plans to attend the Republican Governors Association conference in Florida this week.”

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SP has got to keep her name freshly seared into our minds….MY EYES, MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!! Lordy she makes me want to gag. We need to start tagging her as a Troll and release her back into the wild.

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

OT: KO is talking about Prop 8 as his special topic. Good stuff.

10 11 2008
UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady

Mel (16:45:40) :

Totally agree with you Mel.

Don’t much care for the Trig stuff. But there are a lot of things the MSM didn’t go near that were damning. The Dairy, the history of sacking people, the history of hiring pals then stabbing them in the back. There was the guy who backed her for years only to get on the wrong side of ‘ Dud Personality’ by going out with his pals ex, he got fired, and so on.

favourite line of tonight “I told the RNC, thanks, but no thanks to the britches from Nowhere”.

10 11 2008
nebraskanative

Dee (16:52:20) Well, in the great Southern tradition, Bless her heart. 🙂

10 11 2008
Lara

She’s afraid of all the lies that weren’t corrected – and her examples are Trig & clothes! Holy Moly.
There are allegations about her intelligence, knowledge, political stance about various issues. There is the issue of whether the campaign was for change. There are issues related to the economy, national defense, international relations, infrastructure, and the best examples she could come up are Trig & clothes!

Just why is she keeping the story alive?

10 11 2008
Lulu

Dee wrote: “And, really, the RNC bought her kids underpants? Really?”

Did the RNC buy McCain’s kids underpants, too? And Cindy?

Or is it that the Palins had no underpants at all before the convention?

10 11 2008
aeroentropy

DeMo (16:49:09) :
Lana, KY (16:41:33) said:

“I never purposefully put myself through so much torture before Sarah came on the scene, but tonight I plan to watch grrrrrrrGreta do the interview with the gov.”

G-d speed, Lana, G-d speed.
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I’m with you, DeMo — there aren’t enough antiemetics on the planet to get me through that one!

Someone else can report back?

10 11 2008
Dee

🙂

10 11 2008
White Agate

Still want to know about Cajun Boy’s friend’s article…I know you won’t comment AKM but we can hang out for the ‘long play.’

Revisionist history and compartmentalization! Disingenuous self-victimization! Red herrings! Obfuscation and denial! In short, a pile of b.s. That’s my take.

10 11 2008
SMR

Responding to 40 Watt & Northern Quilter from end of last thread:

@Forty Watt –

There was a caller (repub?) who was upset that Obama didn’t honor the “gentleman’s agreement” re: using public funding for campaigns. Was a real jerk about it.

Note here that I have an aversion to speaking in public, even on the radio! But that was just B.S.! So I phoned in.

Anyway, here’s what I had to say: It is my understanding that the public funding issue was an agreement similar to that of the Town Hall “agreement” that McCain was droning on & on about — i.e. an agreement that was subject to McCain’s special rules for himself, so was never a real agreement in any sense, because Obama did not agree to the special terms/requirements as laid out by McCain. McCain did not want to limit himself to the public funding, he wanted that funding PLUS the funds of the RNC. McCain went on & on about the Town Halls that Obama wouldn’t agree to (uh, because McCain wanted it to be $??? per ticket, invitation only, and Obama wanted it first-come, first-served, and free), and he went on & on about the public funding issues, and both issues had 2 sides to them, the Dem side being one that Republicans were not & are not willing to research or listen to.

So, I also said (to forestall any accusations of liberal whacko-ness) that my husband and I have been long-term republicans. I changed my registration the week after the Palin pick. My husband remains a republican. We both voted for Obama. My husband would have voted McCain, but not with Palin as his VP pick! I said “hey Sarah, if you’re listening you DID cost McCain ONE VOTE in this household!”

Anyway, wrapped up my bit by saying this: all voters have the responsibility to educate themselves about the candidates & issues. My husband and I are republicans who chose to do so, instead of blindly believing everything spouted by McCain/Palin or any other republican. In educating ourselves we chose to vote for Obama!

@Northern Quilter –

yay! One mudfriend heard me. Yup, now you know my first name…

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

Oh, so this is where she got the “we lost the election because Bush failed”.

http://newt.org/tabid/102/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3846/Default.aspx

What kind of koolaid is Newt drinking? Yes, he’s been an idiot for years, but does he really think hanging onto Sarah’s designer skirts is going to make him relevant today? And then, because I think he’s such a sleaze, who’s paying him to say it?

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

Well said, SMR.

p.s. I know your name too.🙂

10 11 2008
Dee

Newt has a habit of leaving wives in his wake. Maybe he has his “eye” on her.

10 11 2008
ds55

One hour until Greta interviews Sarah on FOX. Get the snacks ready!

10 11 2008
Lulu

@SMR, I do not know your name (and I’m fine with that!) & I thank you for your eloquence and intelligence.

10 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

Thanks AKM for pointing out the top/jacket she is wearing! I thought the same thing, I’ve seen that jacket before! So why is she STILL wearing it, if it was part of the RNC/campaign??? “Those clothes, they are not mine, they belong to the RNC, just like the lights and stage and everything else” she told Elizabeth Hasselbeth the day after this story broke. SO WHY IS SHE STILL WEARING THEM????
/b WARDROBEGATE CONT…..

10 11 2008
SandyW

I pity that GOP lawyer who drew the short straw.

From Guys and Dolls

He bought me the fur mink five winters ago
And the gown the following fall
Then the necklace, the bag, the gloves, and the hat,
That was late ’48 I recall
Then last night in his apartment
He tried to remove them all
And I said as I ran down the hall.

Take back your mink
Take back your pearls
What made you think
That I was one of those girls?
Take back the gown
The gloves and the hat
I may be down
But I’m not flat as all that.

I thought that each expensive gift you’d arranged
Was a token of your esteem
But when I think of what you want in exchange
It all seems a horrible dream
Eek.

So take back your mink.
To from whence it came
And tell them to alter and rise it
For some other dame

Take back your mink
Take back your pearls
What made you think
That I was one of those girls?
I’m screaming:
Take back the gown
The gloves and the hat
I may be down
But I’m not flat as all that.

I thought that each expensive gift you’d arranged
Was a token of your esteem
But when I think of what you want in exchange
It all seems a horrible dream
Eek!

Take back your mink
Those old worn out pelts
And go shorten the sleaves
For somebody else.

(interlude)

Well, wouldn’t you?

10 11 2008
White Agate

Newt Gingrich and Bill Kristol are her svengalis…or the svengalis of anyone who will return them to power. Reportedly Kristol’s neocon think tank website is up and running again, the Project for a New American Century, or PNAC. Here’s the Huff Post article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-duss/pnac-palins-pentagon-in-w_b_142631.html

Gingrich would so love to be president. You can bet they are going to be in FL this week.

Constant vigilance! And better ideas for our country, these are the only answers.

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

Dee (17:01:11) :

Newt has a habit of leaving wives in his wake. Maybe he has his “eye” on her.
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Probably. What fun! A catfight between Callista and Sarah!

10 11 2008
Dee

I will have to rely on Mudflats and Huffpo for news about the interview with Greta, cause I will be watching Boston Legal. That at least always makes me laugh.

10 11 2008
Lulu

@Sandy, LOL on “Take Back Your Mink!”

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble
10 11 2008
Northern Quilter AK

yes, I was also mad at that caller. You handled it much more eloquently than I would have. Thanks for calling.

10 11 2008
Aly

Since Palin offered up the medical records and the rumors are still rampant…
http://www.palindeception.com
maybe people should email or call the reporter who did the story and ask him to request the actual medical records in order to put the rumors to bed. Here is the reporters info:

E-mail Sean: scockerham@adn.com

or call 257-0344

10 11 2008
Nisperos

Forget pork rinds. This imitation, a wheat snack, tastes better and is better for you, well maybe; lots of yummy salt: http://www.fritolay.com/fl/flstore/cgi-bin/Nutrition_ProdID_3000.htm

@ Lana, KY (16:41:33) :

Please, please send me some Rebecca Ruth Bourbon balls with dark chocolate and a walnut on top.

10 11 2008
cj

The list of books to be “maybe” banned came, I strongly suspect, from the Amer Library Association website, which compiles it from reports from libraries each year. They are books that have been challenged, tho not necessarily banned. The ALA and the National Assoc of College Stores sponsor a “Banned Books Week” in the fall of each year, and often make displays of these books. The first time I saw the list in association with Palin the poster said it wasn’t known which books she might have objected to, but here was a list of possibles. After that I saw the list without the disclaimer. It was either factcheck or Snopes where I think I read that Harry Potter hadn’t been published yet, so maybe those two places are some of the newspapers and magazines that Sarah reads🙂 , and maybe factck or Snopes got it wrong on the publication date of Potter – I haven’t checked her first-year-as-mayor against the Potter date.

cj

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

Rachel is going live to Alaska in the next segment.

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Obfuscation.

To be evasive, deliberately unclear, or confusing.

The activity of obscuring people’s understanding, leaving them baffled or bewildered.

Hidden or encrypted.

A mental state characterized by a lack of clear and orderly thought and behavior; “a confusion of impressions.”
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I submit that Palin practices obfuscation.

10 11 2008
Northern Quilter AK

By the way, if this keeps up, I’m going to have to change my name to “Former Quilter” as I’ve barely picked up a piece of fabric since this all began let alone turn on my sewing machine… I have consficated my daughters lap top and can’t seem to stop lurking here, watching the news, and listening to the radio. Thankfully my family hasn’t started unplugging things on me!!!

10 11 2008
Drink Up Shriners

Mel:

It’s not clear the whole Trig/Mom thing is bunk, though it sure is fodder for conspiracy theorists (like me, I guess).

Remember:
— She gave a speech in Texas and then took anywhere from 12-24 hours to get back to Alaska, after her water broke, bypassing scores of hospitals along the way (and this is after she allegedly knew that Trig would be a Down syndrome baby and therefore might have needed a critical care facility at delivery).
— Shortly after being named by McCain, when the issue first surfaced, she put the issue in play when she announced Bristol’s pregnancy after questions were raised — her logic at the time (early September) was that “Bristol couldn’t have been the mother then (in April) because she’s pregnant now.” This logic doesn’t prove or disprove anything.
— Few if any people knew she was pregnant, including her staff members (okay, maybe that’s because she was working from Wasilla, but still. . . )
— Pictures of her other pregnancies showed her with significantly greater weight gain than the pictures from earlier this year.
— Bristol had a long period of absence from Wasilla and went to school in Anchorage for awhile, allegedly she had mono or something, but nontheless disappeared from Wasilla at a time when it would have been apparent that she was pregnant.
— No medical records were released, nor was Trig’s birth certificate.

It may all add up to nothing, but the issue could certainly have been put to rest two months ago through a full release of her medical records.

10 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Dear Alaska Friends,
I am truly sorry this has happened to you. I don’t know how she was before she came to the lower 48 to capmpaign for VP, but I am assuming she was not like this or it is unlikely she would have won an election, nor would she have had the high approval rating she enjoyed pre McCain.
My guess is she won’t release her medical records because she has at some point been hospitalized in a mental institution and or she is taking or at least she is supposed to be taking some kind of medication for a mental problem. Alot of her actions remind me of a friend I have that is bipolar, she is fine when medicated but she regularly decides she is fine and goes off her medication. Without the medicine she has an insane amount of energy, she lives in a fantasy world, and she is overly perky and happy, of course then she will slide and then will become severly depressed and at worst attempt suicide. Over the years she has been hospitalized many times. Though I am no expert on this stuff I have been told my friends case is pretty normal for her disease.

10 11 2008
Ennealogic

Lulu said, “Or is it that the Palins had no underpants at all before the convention?”

ohhh my … I about spit out a mouthful of dinner at that one… lol!

10 11 2008
Dee

Oh God, another reason Not to watch the Today Show tomorrow. Matt Lauer is going to interview Her Nibbs. YUCKO!!

10 11 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

if as palin says, the clothes belonged to the rnc….how did they end up back in alaska?

wouldnt she have returned them at the end of the campaign?

AND TRIG AINT HER BABY

SHOW ME THE RECORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Lori W. (16:22:18) :

She probably IS Trig’s mom – just not his biological mom – birth certificate would clear it up. Easy to show birth certificate, so why not? Huh Sarah?
———————————————————–
Maybe the VP nonsense interrupted the adoption process.😉

10 11 2008
Lori W.

PALIN is officially in the new urban dictionary!
From the Urban Dictionary

Palin

An applicant lacking even basic job skills
Someone supremely un-self-aware or lacking any relative sense of what he/she does or doesn’t know.
HR sent me another Palin for the marketing manager job.

Palin v.

to abandon one’s principles for short term gain
Tom, a devout vegan, palined when he consumed a happy meal solely to obtain the collectible toy it contained.

Palin n.

Pejorative term that refers to an incompetent, impractical, irrelevant or incapable person who has been appointed to a position of great importance.
A person who holds authority disproportionate to his or her requisite ethics and qualifications. Derived from John McCain’s controversial 2008 Vice Presidential pick, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
John was recently made principal, but everybody thinks he’s a Palin who can’t do the job.

My new boss is such a Palin – he took my deserved place because the CEO is
his personal friend.

10 11 2008
Vlad the ImPalin

The Palins are just run-of-the-mill Grifters. Nothing more, nothing less. Just a tawdry couple who set lousy examples for their kids to follow. BTW, does First Dud work at all or does he just skulk about in the background all the time?

10 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

Comment from last thread about the Palins house…rollar skating through the house…
Anyone catch the seriers “The Riches” earlier this year on FX? They were a bunch of “Grifters’ gypsies who took over a house of some well to do people…the name could easily be changed to “The Palins” (Minnie Driver play Cherien/Dahlia Rich, and Eddie Lizzard, Wayne/Doug Rich)Could Easily pass as Sarah & Todd Palin.
I will never watch the show the same again without subbing the Palins! 8)
http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/theriches/#Videos

10 11 2008
austintx

Dee – ‘ol newt also had wife #1 served with divorce papers while laying in a bed in a cancer ward…..true……..he is a total piece of shit !!!

10 11 2008
Bea

OT and FYI, if you want to see Joe Lieberman lose his committe chairmanship, here’s a nice little petition to sign:

http://action.firedoglake.com/page/petition/nomorejoe

Thanks to Ms Maddow for the reminder to post this! 😉

10 11 2008
rachelbirds

Palin looks mighty
dishevelled these days — she must
miss her stylist.

http://www.thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

CC is going nuts about “we didn’t accept per diems for the children or Todd”

10 11 2008
austintx

Debbie – I also know someone who is bi-polar….this person also smokes meth……..it is not pretty to watch…….say- isn’t Wasilla the meth capital of AK. ???

10 11 2008
White Agate

What I find so odd is that Kristol comes from a prominent Jewish intellectual conservative family…yet here he is pushing the career of Sarah Palin, a ‘seven mountains’ stealth politician. So what gives? Is it some odd Israel issue? How does Joe Lieberman fit into all of this? What power brokerage deal is going on here? Or do they not see this about her? I can’t believe that. It’s not that hard to find it in her personal history.

Think about this, too, just for a second. They want her to run for PRESIDENT in 2012. PRESIDENT. Just think about that. That says it all.

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

I love Minnie Driver and Eddie Izzard {he is a mammal🙂 }. I’d hate to see them have to inhabit the bodies of Sarah and Dude however temporarily. It’s just too creepy horrid in there.

10 11 2008
Jim, aka Pit Bull Hockey Puck

The more she brings up the inconsequential stuff, the less likely she thinks we’ll pay attention to the real issues.

But she would be wrong, wouldn’t she?😉

10 11 2008
Bev

If the RNC does run Palin 2012, you can bet that there will be a very serious third party – comprised of the intelligentsia of the Republican Party provided of course that they choose to not back Obama again. Talk about holy wars. Yike

10 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

@Lana
RE: Probably should just go out and stand in traffic.

Surely you don’t mean yourself **innocent look**

10 11 2008
Dee

Damn, I just LOVE Rachel Maddow.

10 11 2008
braveny

@Dee

Damn, I just LOVE Rachel Maddow.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Me too!

10 11 2008
Bea

Did you all see this comment on the HuffPo article about the “frantic” clothes sorting?:

CrazynAK:

“They might want to check the Governor’s mansion in Juneau. Gov. Palin never stays there but my husband drove by on the way to work last week and there was a vehicle in the driveway unloading what looked like garment bags and clothes boxes. ”

10 11 2008
ds55

HuffPo article says the guy who reported the “Sarah doesn’t know Africa is a continent” story was a hoax.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/martin-eisenstadt-non-exi_n_142785.html

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

Senator Stevens’ pollster says Stevens will lose…? Did I hear this right?

10 11 2008
Ripley in CT

ok, ew pork rinds… next thing you know, you’ll be mentioning “circus peanuts”, those orange things…

btw, Rachel is bringing out AKM’s points over the last 3 days!!! Go Rachel *swoon*

10 11 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

Rachel Maddow definitely reads this blog! I just know it!🙂
You go AKM!

10 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

Forty Watt (17:32:41) :

I love Minnie Driver and Eddie Izzard {he is a mammal🙂 }. I’d hate to see them have to inhabit the bodies of Sarah and Dude however temporarily. It’s just too creepy horrid in there.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But don’t ya just feel they could easily change the name to “The Palins”
I don’t know if FX canelled it, but if they didn’t I will always see Sarah and Todd, as Cherien and Doug, LOL! Traverlers/Grifters!!!!! 8)

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

Bill Wielechowski is so young! Cute, but he s very young to be n state senator.

10 11 2008
Marnie

“Pork” rinds?
Are you being sarcastic, or did that one slip by?

10 11 2008
Bev

FYI: The crazies are at it again. The only thing boundless in their credo is hatred
http://tinyurl.com/4m7q5j

10 11 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

I don’t know if anyone saw this, but in the comments to the story about cooking the chili while Piper wore an apron and served cake (oh, this poor child is going to write a tell-all book someday about Mommy Dearest), there was this link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_el_pr/palin

That pot of chili was a gift from Palin’s father!

I guess that explains the designer clothes. It wasn’t as if she had to chop onions or strain tomatoes. *exaggerated eyeroll*

As for the birth certificate, she is made of stupid to bring that up again. Honest-to-God, what is her problem? She should show it to the world or shut up because she is not doing her family any favors.

10 11 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

And as for Greta Van Susteren, I have sworn off her show forever after she blasted John Lewis for talking about the racism in the McCain campaign.

I used to be a Greta junkie because of all the crime stories, and even though I’m sure she will have an update on the Caylee Anthony case tonight, I am not going there. She is just another Fox Ditto Head to me.

10 11 2008
Dee

Does anyone know if Levi has been able to make his escape yet?

10 11 2008
Ennealogic

Listening to Rachel just now talking about how she was interested in AK politics before Sarah came on the scene, but she’s totally wrapped up in it now, I am willing to bet anything she or someone on her staff reads Mudflats.

After all, she did broadcast the video of the human Obama logo formation a few days before the election!

PS Rachel, if you’re listening, I love your show. Congrats on your success!

10 11 2008
Northern Quilter AK

Go SMR!! On CC again!

10 11 2008
Dee

Maybe Greta will find Natalie Holloway in Alaska.

10 11 2008
LibertyLover

For someone who majored in journalism, Sarah Palin sure uses a multiplicity of verbal run-on sentences. No punctuation. No continuity. Stream of Consciousness. Very Curious.

10 11 2008
Regi

OK, the lying about proving she was Trig’s mom is bad enough, I don’t really reacall the MSM even picking that one up, but I stopped watching when she used Harry Potter to “prove” she didn’t ban books. No mention of asking the librarian if she’d censor books upon request. This woman couldn’t tell the truth if it would save her life.

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl (17:42:09

Yes, I know what you’re saying and I agree. It’s just I never wanted Cherien and Doug to be found out. I REALLY want Sarah to have her arse (ass) burned and have to sit on the blister.

10 11 2008
Anne

I started reading this blog just after Palin was announced as VP pick, and you provided information, perspective and analysis through the rest of the campaign. I’m delighted that nothing has changed – I’m addicted to Alaskan politics now and can’t wait for each installment.

Say, if I manage to take a cruise to Alaska, could I meet some Mudflatters?

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

Checked Bill Wielechowski and he’s 41. He just LOOKS very young. He has a daughter named Willow. OK, Alakans…I love you all, but wtf is up with Alaskans and the name Willow? Or is it just Alaskan politicians?

Willow is a tree. Not a baby girl…even though Will Smith used it. (He also used the made up name Jaden)

10 11 2008
LibertyLover

After watching the video, again, there lurking around the edges of the goings-on, is Todd. Don’t you Alaskans find that kinda creepy? I mean, have the spouses of your other government officials always lurked? I’m just wondering.

10 11 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

To me, Willow is a character in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She’s also a lesbian Wicca witch, so go figure how that fits with Palin’s philosophy (except for the witch doctor preacher, that is…)

Dee (17:46:48) : Maybe Greta will find Natalie Holloway in Alaska.

Mwahahahaha – that’s hilarious! I’m still chuckling over the fact that when Greta interviewed Todd Palin in front of their house, he mentioned some of his “architect friends” who built it. cough *Hockey Center* cough

10 11 2008
Dee

$700billion, $140billion, and an additional $40billion to AIG. What is going on?

10 11 2008
ds55

Five minutes to The Greta & Sarah Show on FOX!

10 11 2008
Marnie

Mel (16:45:40) :

But there are a whole lot of other lies that were widely reported as lies in the MSM because (1) Palin kept repeating them & (2) they were verifiable as lies. E.g., “I said no to the Bridge from Nowhere;” her claims about steering clear of earmarks; her claims about being a fiscal conservative; her claims that the legislative Troopergate investigation cleared her of any wrongdoing.

Notice how she didn’t bring any of those up in this most recent interview.

So if the media, especially, but not limited to, MSM keep pointing our her lies, we can eventually limit what comes out of her mouth to the truth only and then she will only be able to nod, wink and lick her lips.

Not more diarrhea mouth. Yeah!

10 11 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Dee:
I’ve heard alot of economists saying that AIG is going to be a big money pit that can’t actually be saved. The only reason they propped it up was because of dire warnings that so many money market funds owned shares of it.

10 11 2008
Dee

😉 wink,wink

10 11 2008
Dee

Wouldn’t you know it, I just switched my car insurance to them and the rates are pretty good. Phooey!

10 11 2008
pam

Racheal questions votes in alaska…..mudflats – thanks for gettin the word out !!

10 11 2008
West Virginian

I can’t bear to watch that video again but did Piper carry the baby up the stairs?

10 11 2008
austintx

Architects design and draw blueprints……..builders and contractors actually construct the project……he’s full of shit!!

10 11 2008
ds55

Clothes-gate is the first question from Greta. Wow.

10 11 2008
NY Dem

Back when Sarah was selected as a VP candidate, wasn’t there a photo from a Wasilla hospital room that surfaced ? Dated late April, 2008, just a couple of days after Trig’s birth, I believe.

If memory serves (because the photo has been completely scrubbed from the Internet) it showed Bristol, sitting in a chair, wearing a hospital gown and holding newborn Trig.

On the left side of the photo was Sarah Palin, all dressed up in her fancy governor’s clothes, looking like she was ready for work. On the right side of the photo were the parents of Levi Johnston.

Now, if Sarah Palin was Trig’s Mother, why wasn’t she sitting in the chair holding the newborn baby ?

Why was Bristol wearing hospital garb ?

Why were the Johnston’s even IN the picture ? They would have NOTHING to do with the birth of Sarah Palin’s 5th child !

Sure wish someone happened to save this photo on their hard drive and it resurfaces somewhere – it seems to be a smoking gun.

And they said Bristol was 5 months pregnant at the RNC (9/1/08), which would mean a conception date of about 4/1/08, according to them. What if Bristol doesn’t give birth to her current baby until late January or early February ?

Sure would raise some eyebrows, wouldn’t it !

10 11 2008
strangelet

Dee:

I have a wonderful cousin who lives in Baton Rouge. She’s quite a lot older, but we love each other dearly. We don’t always agree on everything.

“Bless your heart”. I’ve heard that one before. Thank you for making me think of my cuz.

And bless that Sarah’s heart, too.

10 11 2008
ds55

Sarah said the clothes were for 8 people. Her family plus… Levi, too?

10 11 2008
West Virginian

I am watching the interview, but it’s painful. She is just rambling and rambling. She obviously didn’t see the picture of Obama with the worn shoes when she asked how much the Democrats spent on clothes.

Does her upper lip ever move?

10 11 2008
Former Baseball, etc (CT), now known as Karin from CT

Blech! She’s on Greta VonSuckass right now!

Going into the 6 minute mark, they are still taking about the clothes!

10 11 2008
ds55

Trig photos from Mercede’s MySpace page:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddxfxrr8_7fxfr6tfj

10 11 2008
Dee

Strangelet….

My husband’s family lives in Mississippi and as the new yankee in the family, I heard that sentiment more than once.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

Didn’t she agree that she said Africa was a country?

Are you in your parent’s basement in your pajamas, AKM?

10 11 2008
pam

lol…oh she’s too much !!!

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

Oy veh, she is hard to listen to…

And she is still mean and rambling.

10 11 2008
Former Baseball, etc (CT), now known as Karin from CT

The more she talks, the more she inserts foot into mouth. Keep it up Sarah!

10 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

Forty Watt (17:47:29) :

@ crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl (17:42:09

Yes, I know what you’re saying and I agree. It’s just I never wanted Cherien and Doug to be found out. I REALLY want Sarah to have her arse (ass) burned and have to sit on the blister.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forty,
I know what you mean, Cherien & Doug’s lies were “different”,LOL! Where as Palin is just saying a big FU to the citizens of Alaska and the rest of the country.
I want to see her A$$ burned Big time. Anyone have that IRS tip line # handy???

10 11 2008
Lana, KY

Oh oh oh we’re all just sitting around in our parents basements in our pajamas blogging about Sarah – her version to grrrrrrrrrgreta. talk about pissing me off.

10 11 2008
Dee

Don’t you just love the big stuffed bear over Greta’s shoulder?

10 11 2008
2ebbandflow

In all seriousness ~ has Sarah always been this dense? I note that her father (supposedly an educator?) has the same scattered thought process.
Were there any gubernatorial candidate debates when Sarah ran for the office?

I salute those of you living in AK for maintaining your sanity when all else around you goes “mad”~!~

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

All the entertainment over the clothes Barbie didn’t want, but wore all the time has one issue that has been overlooked but I recall reading about a few weeks ago.

According to what I read, there is one major issue. The RNC and or the McLost campaign, they didn’t have authority to spend the money on clothing, which is well documented in the FEC rules. The problem is donating the clothing to charity doesn’t absolve them or offset the original violation. Donating clothes bought illegally won’t fix anything. It could even muddle the issue even more, so if there really is a RNC lawyer headed to Alaska, he’s going to confiscate everything, but they’ll still have to work out how to cover the violations well before anything’s donated anywhere.

Barbie could well end up holding the bag, especially if her minions run the bus over her and blame her Royal Divaness for the clothes.

This will get interesting when the FEC starts their investigation.. Just sit back and wait for the entertainment.

10 11 2008
strangelet

White Agate (17:31:18) :
—————————————–
What I think is that the neo-con-ish Israel supporters, and “hawkish” Israelis, are totally aware that the support they get from the religulous right is based on the vision that the State of Israel is a prerequisite for the Apocalypse.

Of course, no Jew believes in the Revelation of St. John, even as metaphor. However, the political, financial, and military support for Israeli interests that the RR provides is very real, and pragmatically accepted. SInce there isn’t really a drop-dead date for Armageddon (it’s been re-scheduled a number of times since the first millenium), this racket will probably work for a long time to come. It will only stop working when the RR becomes bored with waiting for the rapture and remembers that they hate Jews. No sign of boredom yet.

What I find remarkable is that the Christian religious right is the ONLY group that supports Israel based purely on religion. Even Israelis don’t support Israel purely because of religion.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

How.did.she.become.Governor?

I wouldn’t hire her for a low level management job…

10 11 2008
Former Baseball, etc (CT), now known as Karin from CT

UGH!!!! She makes me so sick! This woman has serious issues with reality.

It’s bad for the media to report “false accusations” about her, but guess it’s okay to say them herself, i.e., calling Obama a Socialist and saying that he pals around with terrorists.

I am numb. If I make it through the full hour without smashing my TV to bits, it’ll be a miracle.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Steph in KS (17:48:35) :

Willow was a very popular character in the Buffyverse.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

We Jews support Israel because IF another Holocaust happens, we need a safe place to land. It’s location is religious, but the reason Israel was created was because of the Holocaust.

Sarah is droning on…how often does she use the word, “Cool”? And she never ends sentences by the wording, it’s all in the cadence.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Steph: Sorry, meant to say: therefore 41 – 44 is maybe about the right age.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

perhaps, SO! Perhaps

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

I have nothing in common with you Sarah Palin.

10 11 2008
katek formerly cd

shortening my palin name even more. Need to divorce myself from her.

I am a parent, I am not sitting in a basement.

Why doesn’t she have the good sense to go quietly? She’s giving more interviews this week than she did in the past 2 1/2 months. She can’t keep this up for the next 4 years.

10 11 2008
Suchanut

Heavy sigh……

OK – so who is advising SWMNBN? Someone must be suggesting that she do all these interviews. Is it an RNC operative trying to position her for a run at Don’s or Ted’s seat? They know she’s not ready for Pres in 2012.

Is Lizard Lips Meg Staple Tongue advising her?

None of this is haphazard or accidental…who in the inside circle is smart enough to do this…granted SP is not to be underestimated, but she can’t connect her brain to her mouth, so I doubt she is a big pitcture strategic thinker.

On the positive side – I did find something that cheered me up today. It is a pic from the Obama campaign trail and I made it my screensaver. Whenever I feel blue, I collapse all my windows and there it is.

Give this site time to load….it will take a minute.

http://origin.barackobama.com/photos/index.php?set=On_the_Trail&image=6

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

NY DEM..

This what you’re referring to?

http://grrl.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-trig/

10 11 2008
strangelet

Back to the OP for a moment. Reading Papa Heath’s remarks gives me a little clue where Sarah’s logical processes may have come from.

10 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady (16:54:43) :
favourite line of tonight “I told the RNC, thanks, but no thanks to the britches from Nowhere”.

OMG THAT was punny!

10 11 2008
kizzy

Oh, I’m watching Greta/Palin… but I don’t know how much more I can take. Ugh.

10 11 2008
Bea

Did you all catch that she is back to claiming she’s a “feminist”?? What a joke of a person she is!

10 11 2008
austintx

I firmly believe the I.R.S. is on the case……..there are a lot of “—gates” . Also – she took 5k from VECO when she ran for Gov. That fella did not have a problem selling Uncle Ted down the river…..he’ll do the same to her. The Feds have a 95% conviction rate……..they have a lot of bases to cover. She is sloppy and arrogant and has left a trail of pissed off people……the perfect combo platter of disaster !!!!

10 11 2008
Anonymous

I had these moments, where I questioned, will I really be as involved in Mudflats after the election? After all Barbie will go back to AK and they will deal with her.

However, we will not leave you to deal with this alone… nor do I think that Barbie will simply fade back into the Alaska nights. The hardest part to take, it the idea that Alaskan elected officials will simply “make nice.”

Continue the amazing work AKM!!! We’re here to support you.

10 11 2008
SoCal Bob

Sarah just doesn’t get it. No matter how hard you try, you just can’t shine poop.

10 11 2008
strangelet

She’s a feminist in the same sense that somebody named Art is an artist.

10 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Nisperos (17:09:35) :

Forget pork rinds. This imitation, a wheat snack, tastes better and is better for you, well maybe; lots of yummy salt
————————————————————-
Ah you have discovered duritos, that would be the real kind from Mexico. These things date back to the maya. FYI you can buy them uncooked, they are about the size of a quarter and nuke them in the microwave for a little under a minute (some micros vary). I am so addicted i keep a gallon jar of uncooked ones in my kitchen. Here they sell them in the Mexican section of large grocery stores or you can get them in Latin american groceries, just ask for Duros. They come in many shapes and sizes each region has it’s own. The DF (Mexico city) is home of wheels. You can also get them shaped as stars, giant chex cereal, and sheets that blow up to the size of a slice of bread. Now that I have overloaded your brain with trivia you may return to your regular secduled serious discussion.🙂

10 11 2008
Suchanut

Spitting soda here…thanks Strangelet!

10 11 2008
Former Baseball, etc (CT), now known as Karin from CT

Hard to pay attention to Gretta VonStarstruck, with the DEAD BEAR HEAD behind her shoulder while SP is talkin’ about love.

10 11 2008
Anonymous

WHAT!!! Gretta is snowmachining with the first dude? Oh I am ill…. it’s not going to stop.

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

NY.. never mind.. think thats the ‘sister in law’. hahah

Isnt the girl in the photo levi’s sister?

10 11 2008
Suchanut

Now I’m snorting soda up my nose!

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Yeah – that bear is hystericxal! Where is the giant crab on the coffee table?

10 11 2008
Bea

Noe sarah’s claiming John McCain won’t toot his own horn. Make me barf!

John McCain was HOARSE from tooting his own horn,

10 11 2008
SC Sista M Cluckhead

@ Forty Watt

She may practice obfuscation, but I bet she can’t spell OR define it!

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

I am 42, and have “heard” of Buffy, but wasn’t that a teeny bopper show about ten years ago?
“My position on abortion is, is here again, that there is common ground here, pro-life who wanna see fewer and fewer abortions in this world, and those who support abortion wanna too! The ones I have spoken with and FAMILY! who don’t support all of my pro life positions I’ve taken would like to see fewer abortions and preventative measures being available and um, ah, you know, SO! And again, the end result would be fewer abortions, so I don’t know if that’s the be all and end all issue there, if it is, that’s unfortunate because I think we could and should all be workin’ together with the challenges our families, our communities, our nation face.”

Again…how did she become Governor? Did she cheat on the exam questions and copy Tony Knowles’ paper?

10 11 2008
strangelet

Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin (18:32:42) :

Thanks for the headsup. I’ll look for Duros. I need to find less obnoxious snacks.

10 11 2008
katek formerly cd

I wonder what McCain is thinking about all this.

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

So, im following threads.. what’s this mean?

10 11 2008
Suchanut

katek formerly cd (18:36:11) :

I wonder what McCain is thinking about all this.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Has he woken up from his nap yet?

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

In the video in the house – did anyone recognize designs/features similar to the Wasilla Hockey arena? That’s what I want to see someone determine. Her home looks like one big cold empty space.

10 11 2008
strangelet

katek: McCain? Thinking?

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

McCain is humble? Who knew? Oh…Miss Congeniality would know that!

10 11 2008
Suchanut

Marty – I don’t know about those photos…

10 11 2008
kas from Oregon

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC — why if I am signed in did my posts post as Anonymous?

10 11 2008
Diva "Slicer Mission" Palin

Did anyone else see creepy Todd lurking in the background? Ewww!!!

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Now Greta is going in the house. Wasilla folks – keep a look out, please. What about the glass panels/railings on her upper level? It looks pretty “institutional” to me. Did she ever have this much video of the interior of her home when she started out as governor?

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin (18:32:42)

Lordy, I’m glad you explained about Duros. I would have thought they were propholactics!

10 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

@Drink Up Shriners (17:13:47) :
RE:– She gave a speech in Texas and then took anywhere from 12-24 hours to get back to Alaska, after her water broke, bypassing scores of hospitals along the way (and this is after she allegedly knew that Trig would be a Down syndrome baby and therefore might have needed a critical care facility at delivery).
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I’m going to say something REALLY HORRIBLE so if you don’t want to see something possibly offensive, skip my post. I will sugar coat it.
Maybe she took 12-24 route on purpose.

10 11 2008
Bea

She certainly looks different without the 5K-a-week stylist!

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

Well, if she does end up holding the clothes hanger, betcha she’ll be hanging the McCain people out to dry. Keep talking, Miss Sarah, bless your heart (yeah, I do love that saying being that I am a native Georgian).

10 11 2008
ds55

@ Marty that’s Levi Johnston’s sister, Mercede, in the photos.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

You can see the lake out back — the ecologically DEAD lake, thanks to the building practices she allowed in Wasilla.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Why is she fixing food while she is talking to Greta? Silly. Miss Domestic.

10 11 2008
West Virginian

We never don’t work!

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

She isn’t worried about any harm to her kids – heck no.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Soulmates they were!

10 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

austintx (17:30:37) :

Debbie – I also know someone who is bi-polar….this person also smokes meth……..it is not pretty to watch…….say- isn’t Wasilla the meth capital of AK. ???
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I think the meth thing is pretty popular among bipolar folkseems it is effective self medication if a person doesn’t mind the brain rot, and serious health problems that go with it. I didn’t mention I have a cousin like that (my friend is tame in comparison) my cousin is just plain off the wall and usually fairly out of control. But just plain meth use would explain this behavior also, not nuts just a tweaker, same outward symptoms. Most meth users also eventually loose it as well and become very weird. Frankly it seems to me she has gotten weirder and more out of touch with reality since I first knew of her at the beginning of the VP thing.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Forty Watt (18:43:36) :

os, not ex

10 11 2008
West Virginian

She is such a space cadet! Seeing this makes me wonder how in the world McCain picked her!

10 11 2008
AZtopcat

If Bristol has her baby in January , the possiblity of Trig being her baby and her having Irish twins could become a reality.

10 11 2008
Forty Watt

Whabs, Seattle, WA. (18:44:23

I’m going to say something REALLY HORRIBLE ……

I know, it’s not comfortable to say it, but it’s certainly neither illogical nor impossible. It was, I admit, my first thought, horrible or not.

10 11 2008
AZtopcat

Just a thought….

10 11 2008
strangelet

Marty, suchanut:

I’d have to say those photos have a lot of artifacts. Also, the site grabbed my browser and I had to forcibly terminate it.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

I agree she did not take proper precautions that a woman pregnant with a wanted child would take. Sugar coated.

What IS she baking?

Oh….she talked to Obama? I wonder if she will recall the conversation correctly?

10 11 2008
Bea

I have the feeling Senator Huge Ego did most of the talking at that meeting in Arizona. SURELY if she’d talked for ANY length of time he would have realized what a dingbat she is? Or was he already under strict orders from James Dobson to take Miss Wasilla, no ifs ands or buts??

10 11 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

All of you discussing the Trig issue need to go to this website

http://www.palinbabyquestion.com/

just look at the timelines and pics…. things that make you go hmmmmm

10 11 2008
strangelet

Whabs, Seattle, WA. (18:44:23) :
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You are far from the first person to raise that possibility.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Did anyone else pick up on where she is talking about going to see McCain in Arizona – sneaking off work. She says “we” never aren’t at work. I’m thinking – she and Todd! HA He is always trailing her. Except she didn’t call him for a few hours when McCain first called? Ha again.

Can we please take the word DIVERSITY away from her?!

10 11 2008
strangelet

Bea (18:50:52) :
I think the correct answer is (d) Dobson.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

I do like her moose switch plate. No bullet holes in the moose, though.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

I believe she was making hotdogs, slit open and stuffed with cheese, for under the broiler. Used to make those. Funny though – she is so preoccupied with doing that – she can barely relate her story. HA – photo of it proved me right!

10 11 2008
kizzy

Regarding Greta/Palin discussing the possibility of God opening the door to 2012:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From the Desk of God . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

MEMO TO SELF:

Lock door. Brick over, then reinforce with 6 feet of concrete on both sides.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

Oh, and then they put some moose chili on the cheese hot dogs? That almost sounds good. Too much nasty for me, but I bet the kids like them.

Yeah, she screwed up the Obama story because she sucks at multi-tasking

10 11 2008
West Virginian

Has anyone in Alaska seen Bristol lately?

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

THERE ARE TWO PARTS?????????? Nope…not watching tomorrow night. One was enough.
“You won’t see this anywhere else!”
Thank god for small favors

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

strangelet (18:54:20) :

Bea (18:50:52) :
I think the correct answer is (d) Dobson.
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et. al

I really think Miss Sarah’s going to burn herself out. Dobson, et. al, those are the really scary people we need to pay big bucks to disenfranchise. This is the pac I want to see,
Focus on Humanity Emphasizing Global Outreach.

10 11 2008
Blue in MT

God isn’t affiliated, right?

I just watched Religulous yesterday and I highly recommend it.

On days I believe in God, I believe that the spirit of God is to be humble (Christlike if you want to go there). So praying to God to “pick me! pick me!” seems totally ungodly and it really makes me angry.

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

kizzy (18:56:40) :

Regarding Greta/Palin discussing the possibility of God opening the door to 2012:
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She could have an army of witch hunters praying “Lord, make a way” – there is no way she is going anywhere in 2012. Not with the Republicans, anyway – has she forgotten she just lost an election in a landslide??? Not only did she not deliver – she gave them a public humiliation.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

If God IS affiliated, apparently he went with Barack Obama this time around. But I don’t think (if there is a) God he gives a rats ass about who wins the game, campaign, contract, etc. Seriously.

10 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

Night, all. I trust y’all to keep an eye on Miss Sarah, an ear out for TeddyBoy, and a shout out for all us Obamites. Yes we can. Bless you and those you love.

10 11 2008
AustinTXGal

I don’t for one minute believe that Palin gave birth to Trig. That’s one of her many lies. And to hear her talk? PULEAZE. This woman just babbles and babbles and hopes noone can filter or grasp that she says NOTHING. I have never seen anyone so INEPT. And she was a broadcasting major? Damn, she can’t even form a proper sentence.

10 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also0

Hotdogs with cheese stuffed inside + bacon wrapped diagonally around the outside = pigs in a blanket/ pork from Washington (with a possible dairy subsidy for MatSu Dairies).

10 11 2008
Bea

Ok, for those of you that have had a baby… watch this video and tell me if this is how a seven-months pregnant woman sits:

http://video.newsweek.com/#?t=1761951181&l=1759767670

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Bea (18:44:34) :

She certainly looks different without the 5K-a-week stylist!
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The executive stylist at Wasilla Curl Up ‘n’ Dye has a different vision for Sarah’s hair. She got right in there and made some policy changes.😉

10 11 2008
strangelet

I believe that for my own sanity, I am going to remove myself from the babygate speculations. This is not to suggest that anyone else need do the same. It’s just too much — mono when?, the airplane fiasco, Bristol due when?, why the hell is Trig on tour if she’s not breastfeeding?, blah. I give up. It is, mostly, family stuff (except for the slight truthfulness thing).

The one remark I will make, however, assumes that things have been exactly as Palin says. It was an act of extreme selfishness to board TWO long-haul commercial flights after her water broke. If she had gone into labor en route, it would almost certainly have diverted the flight, and screwed up the travel plans of a hundred or more people who may have been trying to get to a birth or a wedding or a deathbed, or just to a business appointment or a vacation. The fact that it didn’t happen doesn’t make the decision to take the chance any less massively selfish.

Okay, I’m done.

10 11 2008
Ennealogic

Sarah’s caption for the Greta segment shot in her Wasilla kitchen:

~~Makin’ those moose dogs there, slicin’ ’em open and puttin’ some Velveeta in ’em but maybe some will wonder if it makes me look, um, too, un-feministic also even then, progressin’ on that feministic path wearin’ this fancy black suit, understandin’ that some of those fine clothes bein’ bought after the convention don’t really count as the RNC convention clothes that, too, got returned from the belly of that plane.~~

On a side note, Sarah’s eye makeup in the kitchen was, can we say, overmuch? Maybe she’s trying to use up the $22,000 of Mary Kay before the lawyers show up. 😉

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

the problem child (a jerk, also0 (19:09:21) :

OMG – back in Upstate New York, a hot dog, stuffed with cheese, wrapped in bacon and then deep fried was called a Dog Burger. When I go back East – I eat at least three!

10 11 2008
mama4obama

I still can not get pass “kids loose underwear.” WHAT does that have to do with anything?? please, someone tell Bristol to put her panties back on (did the RNC pay for underwear?) ewwww.

please Alaska, please keep Sarah and all that lost underwear in Alaska!

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Bea (19:10:19) :

Ok, for those of you that have had a baby… watch this video and tell me if this is how a seven-months pregnant woman sits:
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I think there is no footage of it, but people at the conference remarked on how quickly and easily she jumped up when it was her turn to speak.

That’s one of the things that I’ve never forgotten.

10 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

My cousin Chucky the fundie preacher is positive we have elected the antichrist. I told him perhaps he should invest in an aspestos suit because I was fairly sure the heaven he was headed for would be really hot. Same goes for Sarah.

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Suchanut_AK (19:15:09) :
OMG – back in Upstate New York, a hot dog, stuffed with cheese, wrapped in bacon and then deep fried was called a Dog Burger. When I go back East – I eat at least three!
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When I make them I call them the Life Insurance Special.😉

10 11 2008
Blue in MT

Bea

There’s just no way. She could not hunch over like that if she had a bump. The scarf is a bit of a distraction but I don’t think there’s room for a baby.

No matter what, her parenting skills are sorely lacking. I believe Bristol dropped out as did her baby’s father. If you’re going to have a baby at 17 your darned well better get an education. That utterly makes me sick, though the Palin’s lack of emphasis on education isn’t at all surprising.

10 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

I’ll read the posts in the A.M.—still elated by Obama’s win…his taking the kids to school (does Palin know what that is?), his going to the White House, his seeing where they’ll live and his seeing where they’ll REVERSE the last eight years of moosedung that passed for policy!

Palin is dried moosedung…dusty, only slightly malodorous, and gone with the wind.

Gone with the wind.

Love all Midpuppies! Hope to see you at the inauguration!

10 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

classy

10 11 2008
strangelet

Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin (19:17:04) :

My cousin Chucky the fundie preacher is positive we have elected the antichrist.
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Have you ever pointed out to Chucky that there is no “the” antichrist in Revelation? At worst, we might have elected “an” antichrist.

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

To me, the photo in this link sums it all up..

The two of them show more love and compassion in this one photo than Barbie Grifter showed in 2 months of campaigning/Trig-as-prop..

what do you all think?

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/trig-palin/

10 11 2008
Former Baseball, etc (CT), now known as Karin from CT

The Trig issue should be put to rest. Who really cares? I’m just glad the poor little thing is back in his warm Housegate home and not being trotted all over the country like a sack of potatoes. Let the Clampets keep on bein’ Alaskans, ridin’ their snow machines and shootin’ innocent animals so they can hang em’ on their walls.

And I read on HuffPo Sarah was preparing Moose chili and Moose hot dogs for Greta VonILoveYouSarahPlain. Talk about journalistic integrity! If ANYONE says that MSNBC doesn’t have a right to represent us Dems, they should be shot like all the dead animals in the Gov’s office.

We need to keep fighting against this twisted GOP mentality. It is not us, and it is not the United States of America!

Oh, to see the photos of Barack and Michelle at the White House today made my heart sing and my eyes cry with joy!

Let’s keep the positive vibe going here!

10 11 2008
strangelet

Nite, Cassie. I’m afraid I’ll be missing the inauguration, but I’ll be there in spirit (and expecting photos).

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Whabs, Seattle, WA. (18:44:23) :I’m going to say something REALLY HORRIBLE so if you don’t want to see something possibly offensive, skip my post. I will sugar coat it. Maybe she took 12-24 route on purpose.

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Yep, I thought the same thing. Also WHY DID THEY RUN THE TESTS TO SEE IF THE CHILD WAS DOWNS SYNDROME UNLESS THEY WERE CONSIDERING TERMINATING THE PREGNANCY? It also explains why she keep her options open by hiding the pregnancy into the 7th month.

10 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

KO’s special comment got me right between the eyes. Also right between the ovaries. Also right in the heart. So. Right. So. Powerful. He obviously has been talking seriously with his BF R.

10 11 2008
Lana, KY

Well I braved up and watched the whole damn grrrrrrrgreta thing ~ but somewhere midway I think my brain went into self preservation mode and I spaced out. Don’t really remember much about the last bit other than blah blah blah blah ~ all the same old shit we’ve all heard over and over. Plus I was thinking about that poor moose that had to die to make that chili and those hot dog thingie’s she was mauling. I’m not into eating anything with eyes.
Think I’ll skip part 2 tomorrow night.

Nisperos (17:09:35) : I make a mean bourbon ball (with dark chocolate & walnuts) around Christmas time ~ if things are still happening here and I’m still kicking ~ maybe we can work something out. You’ll have to remind me.

10 11 2008
Mollys Mum

I just watched the interview and my head hurts. Drivel drivel babble babble empty space. And I sure wish they could find someone who could speak properly to interview her anyway.

That said, I want her in the public eye as MUCH AS POSSIBLE in the foreseeable future. I would love it if she managed to wrangle Ted Steven’s seat and end up in the Senate. The more exposure she has on the national scene, the quicker she will spontaneously combust. Or a house might fall on her or something. She is just too bizarre to be believed.

(I am still hoping Begich wins, of course.)

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Stranglet – I agree. One theory means a life was completely put in jeopardy. The other theory means a big fat lie. If Trig is really hers, then the risks she took are inexcusable.

I went through the same thing, with prematurity. I only had to drive 15 miles. Heroic medical measures didn’t help our family. So I’m not buying the “I know I wasn’t really in labor yet so it was OK.”

Our country couldn’t have survived that kind of judgment – not in 2008. Not in 2012.

Enough said from me on this topic.

10 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

strangelet (19:22:17) :
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You’ll get photos, I promise!

Still congratulating folks in PA…they were as brave as us in NC.

10 11 2008
Bea

the problem child (a jerk, also) (19:23:18) :

KO’s special comment got me right between the eyes. Also right between the ovaries. Also right in the heart. So. Right. So. Powerful. He obviously has been talking seriously with his BF R.
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KO’s Special Comment was right on and I think he almost teared up several times giving it. He’s a good guy and I’m glad he’s ours.

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Aussie : When I make them I call them the Life Insurance Special.

We also call them the Heart Attack Special…LOL!

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Former Baseball, etc (CT), now known as Karin from CT (19:22:16) :
Who really cares? … Let the Clampets keep on bein’ Alaskans, ridin’ their snow machines and shootin’ innocent animals so they can hang em’ on their walls.
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Base, you know all those hollywood monster movies? Whenever you think the monster has been conquered and you let your guard down, it rises up with a vengence. She needs thoroughly discredited and prosecuted or she will make a come back.

10 11 2008
Bea

As Sarah would say: “With all this bourbon ball talk all the time…” now I’m craving bourbon balls.

10 11 2008
strangelet

We want Begich (D-AK).

Although the image of Mitch the Bitch with his head on a swivel watching out for Sarah Submarinacuda for six years is kinda appealing.

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Bec – Hugzzzzzzz

10 11 2008
strangelet

And NEVER split up.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Hmm, that was supposed to be for Eyes:

And Never split up.

10 11 2008
WayBeyondSoccerMom

Regarding Trig, the word I keep thinking to myself everytime I see Palin holding her son is “indifference”. She was indifferent when she was pregnant with him, and indifferent now that he has been born. Does anyone watch the tv show, Mad Men? Right after the character Betty Draper finds out she’s pregnant and the doctor tells her she has to stop riding horses, the next scene is her on horseback. I saw that scene and immediately thought of Sarah Palin.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Bea (19:30:02) :
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In respect of my mom’s memory, I cannot make bourbon balls before Thanksgiving.

Damn.

10 11 2008
Lacy Lady

I watched the interview with Greta VanS tonight .Greta was asking how she got the call and when she went to Arizona to talk with McCain. I think she dodged the fact that she talked to the Hensley’s CEO first and then the next day, Cindy drove her to their home to talk to McCain. Did anyone catch how she dodged this question? Interesting.

10 11 2008
deborah aka upnorth (also hose hotrod)

kizzy (18:56:40) :

Regarding Greta/Palin discussing the possibility of God opening the door to 2012:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From the Desk of God . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

MEMO TO SELF:

Lock door. Brick over, then reinforce with 6 feet of concrete on both sides.
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P.S. Go find Cerberus (that three-headed dog who guarded hell’s gates so well) and tell him to take no prisoners!

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Rachel is on here now….I just love her….

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com
10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Thanks Such – it has always bugged me about Palin – since I heard the story.

RE: KO’s commentary tonight – I really think he did it for Rachel.

I can’t believe it – but my husband has become a KO and Rachel fan in the last couple of weeks. Yay – I won’t have to obsessively watch it alone anymore!

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

mama4obama (19:15:53) : I still can not get pass “kids loose underwear.” WHAT does that have to do with anything?? please, someone tell Bristol to put her panties back on (did the RNC pay for underwear?) ewwww. please Alaska, please keep Sarah and all that lost underwear in Alaska!

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I was stunned when Palin basically admitted using federal election funds to buy kids’ underwear. WTF? I worry that all this attention to the misappropriated money is fading fast and that she will walk away from this. Someone should file suit to compel an accounting.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Bea – how about just the Bourbon right now?!

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Bourbon on the rocks with a splash, please,,,,

10 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

strangelet (19:19:53) :

Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin (19:17:04) :

My cousin Chucky the fundie preacher is positive we have elected the antichrist.
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Have you ever pointed out to Chucky that there is no “the” antichrist in Revelation? At worst, we might have elected “an” antichrist.
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No, I don’t argue religion with bible with him. I am content to stew him in his smug little juices, and be a thorn in his side over his actions which are often reprehensible. I think of it sort of like training an wayward dog although dogs generally learn faster than Chucky. I will not argue anyones personal beliefs this is the united states of america as long as a person is not using their beliefs to harm others they are entitled. I just agree to disagree with them.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Now Marty – the rest of the photos are real – but you do know that Vogue cover is pure Photoshop, right?

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

strangelet (19:32:19) :Hmm, that was supposed to be for Eyes:And Never split up.
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Huh?

10 11 2008
pearl89

The Palin family is crazier than the Osbornes. You couldn’t make this stuff if you wanted, too. Well, maybe Tom Robbins could.

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

I think I need to watch dancing or something mindless and having nothing whatsoever to do with SP.

I did have one creative thought.

Palin’s VP Nominee Official Portrait:

Sarah in a Towel on Black Velvet!

Muuuaaaahhh!

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Such — add a tiara on her head, a moose head in the background, and a shotgun in her hand, and you got it!

I heard someone joking that Tina Fey’s next Palin skit – she’ll be in a towel! But she may just be done playing her for a while. She apparently didn’t enjoy it.

10 11 2008
deborah aka upnorth (also hose hotrod)

@Cassie Jeep—
I wish I could make the Inaugural Celebration. But it’s not in the cards.
I am planning a Blue-States Road Trip for February, though, (driving through Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina). If any MudPups in those states want to try to hook up for coffee, a bite to eat, or a chat enroute, leave a comment on my blog post:

http://upnorthbynorthwest.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/upn-x-nw-blue-state-road-trip/

or email me at upnorthminn at gmail dot com

That would be so awesome!

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Bec – I am sure Tina would rather everyone watches 30 Rock…

10 11 2008
Bella the Bunny Girl

RE:– She gave a speech in Texas and then took anywhere from 12-24 hours to get back to Alaska, after her water broke, bypassing scores of hospitals along the way
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It gets more unbelievable – the trip took 20 hours, during which she claims she was leaking amniotic fluid but NOT in active labour, and that she was induced in Mat-Su and delivered 26 hours after it all began.

She may well be Trig’s mom, but she’s lying, period. Maybe she’s confabulating to make it sound way more dramatic than it really was, or maybe there were darker motives, at the very, very least, her story admits to an appalling lack of judgment and makes her doctors sound negligent. She needs to be called on it.

10 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

John Mc Cain on Larry King Live Tuesday and Sarah on Wed. Could be interesting. Sometimes Larry asks to have you send in your questions. Maybe Mudflatters have some suggestions.

Also, I think I know what to do about the Palins. It is time to call Dr. Phil!
He can put them all up in the Dr. Phil house and figure out all the wierd stuff.

10 11 2008
Bea

Bec -Yes We Did – in Illinois (19:37:21) :

Bea – how about just the Bourbon right now?!
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I’m more of a Scotch girl myself, but I’d gladly raise a glass with you and all the others who are a thousand times the women Sarah could ever be.

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

El from Saskatchewan (19:52:31) :

Excellent Idea! Mudpups! Dr. Phil must do a show on SWWNBN!!!!

10 11 2008
Bea

Also too, McWhatWasIThinking was on Leno tonight. Anyone catch it?

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Dork Knozzle – Rachel says that is her Secret Service Name – she is so funny……

10 11 2008
icarus

Instead of providing Trig’s birth certificate or her medical records, Palin’s proof was outing her teenage daughter on the national stage, saying, “Bristol can’t be his mother, she’s pregnant by her boyfriend.”

She did this long before Bristol was 7-8 months along, like Palin was when she finally disclosed her own pregancy, and Bristol could discretely marry Levi first (like that’s going to happen…)

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

I didn’t see it Bea – do tell.

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I posted this a few weeks ago, but I love to tease and thought I would post my riddle again for anyone who missed it before…

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10 11 2008
Lee

was stunned when Palin basically admitted using federal election funds to buy kids’ underwear. WTF? I worry that all this attention to the misappropriated money is fading fast and that she will walk away from this. Someone should file suit to compel an accounting.
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Someone has. It is a campaign watchdog group with teeth, and they have filed suite.

10 11 2008
Suchanut_AK

Eyes – LOL!!! It is time though….for a new thread that is…

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky
10 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

G’night all. Keep the heat on.

10 11 2008
10 11 2008
deborah aka upnorth (also hose hotrod)

El from Saskatchewan (19:52:31) :
Yes!! Call Dr. Phil! What we need is an intervention!!

Goodnight problem child.
I’m off to saw me some logs also.
Love all you pups!

10 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin (18:32:42) OT

Ah yes, duritos, some varieties I like and others not. I’ve had some yucky imitations in the U.S. too. Anyway, I think it’s the lime chili flavor that I crave in the Sabritones. If you suck on them a lot, they sort of burn the roof of your mouth a little, but worth it. I think what I’m hooked on is the intensity of the flavoring.

Just like with Maruchan soups, I only like the Lime Chili Shrimp variety…

Speaking of Mexican stuff to eat, I love (in fact crave) nopalitos (cactus) and scrambled eggs with tomatillo sauce…

And, did you know that that some in Mexico call nisperos zapotes? Others see nisperos and zapotes as 2 different types of fruit, or else want you to specify the type of zapote? At any rate, what I call a nispero is a tart fruit yellow on both the outside and the inside. For me, a zapote is black or green on the outside and pink or white on the inside and has a sweeter taste. (And from the zapote bark comes the chicle for the original chewing gum).

Since you seem to know about these things, I’m curious if you can tell me what is the difference between a tomate and a jitomate? Are they 2 different types of tomatoes?

We now return you to regularly scheduled goofiness

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Wow Anna – thanks for the link. On MSNBC today they didn’t know who Eisenstadt was. Guess he’s never been one of their talking heads.

10 11 2008
SMR

While I realize that Bible Spice is grotesquely fascinating, in a train-wreck sort of way, I think that we need to concentrate our efforts on making her irrelevant.

I would like to see all of us devoted mudbuddies finding ways to support the Alaskan efforts to get all of the -gates brought to the light of day so that her downfall ensures her irrelevance as a politican. Working now to destroy her credibility here in AK means that you all will not have to worry about her invading your lower 48 air space in 2012…

Further, if we try really really hard, and encourage friends & family to try hard as well, shutting off our televisions when she is on, and refusing to buy the magazines whose covers she graces, we can let the MSM know that she is irrelevant unless they are willing to have substantive interviews, with ANYONE, that go to the truth of her actions as Governor and Mc’s running mate.

It kills two birds with one stone — getting Bible Spice out of contention in future presidential races, and even state level races, AND outing her would shine a lot of light on the hypocrisy of those who support/supported her, individuals & religious institutions.

Can we concentrate some effort in that direction?

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

anna missed (20:00:14) : Heres the campaign guy talkin trash about Palin. He’s outted himself, and has more.
%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&
I have heard there is a faker outing himself.

10 11 2008
BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin

HuffPo Knows Alaska Exists

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/why-was-alaska-voter-turn_n_142808.html

And that the voting here is somehow screwy……

10 11 2008
deborah aka upnorth (also hose hotrod)

Haven’t quite started with the zzz’s yet. Here’s a parting gift.

http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/

once again, spot on.

‘Night all.

10 11 2008
Lee
10 11 2008
anna missed

One thing though, if you don’t know the difference between shiite and sunni, or hamas from hezbollah, it makes it easy to lump them all together into some cartoon evildoer thing. Of course its also the best way to go backwards against terror.

10 11 2008
SE_Idaho_Reader

Eisenstadt (the source of SP’s Africa quotes) is a hoax:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=M._Thomas_Eisenstadt

I’m totally bewildered by when and how this originated.

10 11 2008
Sue

Eisenstadt doesnt exist. Cant remember where I read it…on one of the links, I think. McCain staff says there is no one by that name on their staff, nor any reporters so named. I’ll go look for the link

10 11 2008
anna missed

The link is from his own blog, and doesn’t look cooked up to me.

10 11 2008
SE_Idaho_Reader

Sue (20:12:24) :

We must have posted simultaneously. I posted the link just before your comment.

10 11 2008
Sue

Here’s the Eisenstadt link…it was from Huffington.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/martin-eisenstadt-non-exi_n_142785.html

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

I was just about to post that link to the hoax, too, SE. I thought MSNBC would be able to track him down.

But – it is kind of fun to read all the Palin-loving comments on his blog – who agree – he is a JERK!

10 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

Also WHY DID THEY RUN THE TESTS TO SEE IF THE CHILD WAS DOWNS SYNDROME UNLESS THEY WERE CONSIDERING TERMINATING THE PREGNANCY?

Age

The older we get the higher the incident rate for a ds pregnancy. It is routine in women starting as early as 38- 40.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that as the reason given to the two friends I know who had the test done.

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Even if this Eisenstadt is a fake – I hope we’ll find out more Palinisms as time passes. Even if the right loves her, there appears to be a majority of Americans right now who prefer intelligence over “hottiness.”

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

SE_Idaho_Reader (20:12:13) : Eisenstadt (the source of SP’s Africa quotes) is a hoax

#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%

Not exactly. He is claiming to be the source. I do not believe he is the source. He is taking fake credit for what I believe is still truthful info from a real insider.

10 11 2008
anna missed

Looks like I’ve Been pranked!

10 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

ok kids.. i posted this before.. didn’t get much response.. here’s some more selective items..

Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.

Glibness and Superficial Charm = Barbie Grifter

Manipulative and Conning = Barbie Grifter
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self = Definitely Barbie Grifter
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”

Pathological Lying = This one gives me chills.. Barbie Barbie Barbie
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt =Remind you of anyone?
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions =Barbie Grifter
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love = Holding Trig photos = proof?

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency = 2.2 GPA?
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle = 319 days at home?
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility = 100 different campaign accusations!
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
plus..

Could these describe Barbie?
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them = check
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them = check
Authoritarian =check and mate
Secretive = total check
Paranoid =check, check,check and more check
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired =campaign anyone? check check..
Conventional appearance = clothes and makeup check.
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s) = AK employees? Check
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life =check
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love) =vheck
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim =check
Incapable of real human attachment to another =check check Diva Barbie
Unable to feel remorse or guilt =CHECK..
Extreme narcissism and grandiose =oh god check
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world =umm.. Palin 2012

nuff said?

10 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Don’t worry anna — Palin in the prank that, well, keeps on “pranking.”

10 11 2008
Vlad the ImPalin

LibertyLover (17:47:01) :

For someone who majored in journalism, Sarah Palin sure uses a multiplicity of verbal run-on sentences. No punctuation. No continuity. Stream of Consciousness. Very Curious.
________________

I’ve never understood any of the garble that so easily flows from her stenciled mouth – I always presumed she was just speaking in ‘tongues’.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Eyes WIde Open:

Wayback when, I was referring to your monster movie reference — never assume the monster is actually vanquished.

Also, never split up. Also,

10 11 2008
Sue

Re: testing for Down Syndrome….My last pregnancy was over 26 years ago, but they were, even that long ago, testing for Down Syndrome. I was relieved that I was young enough to avoid it; it involved poking a needle into the stomach clear through to the placenta, and I did not want to do that! The reason, then, was supposedly so that you could make an informed choice about keeping your baby; at that time, they couldn’t even tell until half way through the pregnancy. Since then, they have better methods of testing and can test for all kinds of things. If you are against abortion, these tests can still give you an idea of what to expect so that you can prepare for whatever the problems may be. Also, they can correct some things while the baby is still in the womb. I was kind of horrified, though, the hear of a woman who only wanted sons and thus had 2 abortions (of female babies) to achieve her goal. : (

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Whabs, Seattle, WA. (20:18:12) :

Whabs, it’s not done routinely! There is a small chance that the test will lead to spontaneous abortion, so a lot of older mothers elect not to have it. There are many such mothers at Mudflats.

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

LibertyLover (17:47:01) :

For someone who majored in journalism, Sarah Palin sure uses a multiplicity of verbal run-on sentences. No punctuation. No continuity. Stream of Consciousness. Very Curious.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Imagine being her English teacher. Shudder.

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Whabs, Seattle, WA. (20:18:12) :Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that as the reason given to the two friends I know who had the test done.

*)*)**)*)*)*))**)))*)*)**)**))*))****)*)*)*))**)***)*)*))))****))*))*))

No Whabs, my wife was 38 when we had our last child. The test is recommended for those who want to rule out genetic worries, but it is not routine. It can cause a miscarraige and loss of a pregnancy. A dozen years ago when we had to decide on the issue of the test, the miscarraige rate was like 1 in 50. It is not a test you go through just out of curiosity. It is invasive. If Palin was certain she was keeping the child no matter what then why would she risk a miscarraige with an invasive test?

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

All pregnancies are advised to be screened for Down’s. Blood test in first or even second trimester. Amnio reserved for high risk cases. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16419323/

10 11 2008
Bea

Suchanut_AK (19:55:59) :

I didn’t see it Bea – do tell.

____

Alas, I didn’t see it either. No TV, so I am limited to what I can watch live by blinkoTV and channelsurfing.net. 😦

I guess we’ll have to wait and see if HuffPo has clips on McDesperateToReBuildMy Rep in the morning.

10 11 2008
More Light than Heat

Someone needs to send Sarah a copy of my all-time favorite bumper sticker:
ESCHEW OBFUSCATION

10 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Forty Watt (18:43:36) :

ROTF LMAO!

Ah, well la cosa dura is what you’d put the prophylactic on…

(But maybe such things at times don’t get put on la cosa dura en México because the cheap ones down there are thick like the original French letters which were animal intestines.)

10 11 2008
mhrt oregon

OT but cute
went to pick up my 5 year old grandaughter at kindergarden today…. last week was voting week….in her back pack was a map of the USA that she had printed on it “yes we can” not really what i was expecting to see today….but it brings it all back……today see say the shrub an obama touring the white house and she says “ha there is macane and Rock Obama”…so very cute ..my little girl

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Good article Denise, I see things are improving over the past dozen years since our last child. I found the quote from the article you linked:

“Also today, women have more options. Doctors already frequently offer younger women blood tests that don’t definitively diagnose Down syndrome like an amnio or a similar invasive test called chorionic villus sampling — but that can signal who’s at higher risk.”

10 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

well, late here, nite all

10 11 2008
Sue

Blood test and ultrasound can tell if there may be a problem, but I see they still use the amniocentisus (needle in the tummy) method to confirm. : ( One site I checked said that 90% of women who have DS confirmed this way choose to abort. How sad. I rarely see a DS child anymore, so I believe this is true.

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

A promising—very accurate and early—blood test is being studied. Seems that as many as 90% of women would opt to terminate Down’s fetuses. And some are upset that this might herald the end of the Down’s population. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5729168

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

One of my mom’s oldest friends came from a family of eleven–or twelve. Anyway, the last had Down’s. She is still alive. She’s a lovely person, but a child for all these many decades. Never able to live on her own or even take care of activities of daily living. And she may outlast all the rest of her sisters.

10 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Shikago

In SP’s interview about God opening the door to the Presidency in 2012, I think it’s interesting she says things like this…

Palinese; “And if there is an open door in (20)12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I’ll plow through that door.”

So lets see… If it will be GOOD for my family, my state, my nation, an opportunity for ME!!! (Me family, Me state, Me nation, ME, ME, ME) Nothing about the other folks (besides herself) who live here.

It’s no wonder our Barack won. yes WE can.

I have read over most of the 500 posts on the last 2 threads. I am so tired I have to go to bed. Good night muddies.

10 11 2008
Nisperos

@ More Light than Heat (20:34:57) :

One of my favorites is “If You’re Not Outraged, You’re Not Paying Attention”: http://syracuseculturalworkers.com/sticker-if-youre-not-outraged-youre-not-paying-attention

10 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Just peeked at Leno and he announced McDidn’tVet would be on the show on Veteran’s Day, tomorrow night.

10 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Increasing numbers of Alaskan votes needing to be counted

Absentee: 60,950
Early: 9,507
Question: 20,178
Total: 90,635

http://www.dailykos.com/

10 11 2008
LGW in WA

Watching Sarah glam her way though her post-election post-partum rigorous interview schedule is almost too much. She is unwavering in portraying her real, true, genuine, transparent self. Achhhhhhh…she has the gall to call the “jerks” in the press corps “mean spirited” all the while giving new meaning to the term “mean spirited” throughout the campaign.

10 11 2008
More Light than Heat

Nite all, time for me to turn this over to the night owls and the Hawaii and parts west shift. No Mudflats for me tomorrow. I’m actually getting back to one of my other interests in life. I have a needlpoint class with SharonG (for anyone else who’s a stitcher).

See y’all on Wednesday.

10 11 2008
akmuckraker

New thread!

10 11 2008
annie

Ok, for those of you that have had a baby… watch this video and tell me if this is how a seven-months pregnant woman sits:

Actually this interview was the day that she was supposedly in labor, flew 12 hours home to Alaska that night and had Trig at 4am the next morning……yeah right!!!!!!

10 11 2008
WeCan Hussein AKA Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Even Spain’s got her number. Anyone posted this yet?

http://watchingamerica.com/News/11696/the-false-feminism-of-sarah-palin/

10 11 2008
Ciaran87

I am so happy to find that I am not alone in my morbid fascination with SP.
My husband asked me what I was reading on my laptop and when I told him, he said, “what do we care?” I care because I believe that someone of SP’s ilk is bad for the country, let alone the poor good people of Alaska. As has been mentioned, SP’s national security credentials included Alaska’s proximity to other countries. Alaska is part of the United States. You people are my brothers and sisters in America. My heart goes out to you and I will be checking back here frequently for updates. I have a feeling that AKM will keep us posted on Sarah’s shenanagins. Amazingly fascinating.
Thanks go out to you who watched GVS and SP on Fox and shared the highlights….lowlights? You are very brave. I force myself to pop over to Fox once a day so that I can say I have a balanced perspective on the issues. But honestly, MSNBC is my home and the people who work there are my new best friends. I have Sarah Palin and John McCain to thank for my stumbling onto MSNBC in time to catch Rachel’s first show. I was desparate for someone to help me to understand how such a character could be chosen for the position of VPOTUS. Rachel and Keith and all the rest don’t understand themselves, but it sure has been fun watching them try to find out. Clearly, an intervention is needed here…..but now I’ve found Mudflats. One addiction for another.
All of you are great reading. I feel for you Alaskans.
As an aside, I try to stay away from the Trig question…..after awhile, it truly becomes irrelevant. After all, SP has to live with the consequences of whatever decisions she’s made. It’s really not out business. What is the business of the people of Alaska is how is SP governing their state and how is she spending their money? Turn the focus on her job performance, much like an employer. Would you rehire her?
Thanks to all of you for your insights.

10 11 2008
DeMo

Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com (19:35:47) :

now does this look like someone’s pregnant?

http://www.stardelicious.com/2008/08/31/politic-me-off/scandal-did-sarah-palin-fake-pregnancy-to-hide-daughters-illegitimate-baby/

As someone else noted, those are photoshopped. Here are the actual pics from Vogue shoot:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-mccains-vp-pi_n_122389.html

For the record, I think there’s something very shady about the pregnancy. I would say Sarah or Bristol’s pregnancy, but I don’t know who gave birth to Trig. And, for the record, I think it matters because it reveals a lot.

If the baby is hers, she took a tremendous risk flying back to AK. If the baby is Bristol’s, Sarahs’ lying. What mother risks the life of her baby by traveling such a distance? What mother parades her pregnant child in front of the nation and the world? A very selfish, self absorbed mother. No matter how I look at it, Palin is covered in moose pellets.

10 11 2008
NSWFM

austintx (16:51:11) :

We have a saying here when someone is OBVIOUSLY lying…..you politely let them finish……..then very politely say “I am so sorry – but – I am calling BULLSHIT! right here and now” and then just stare……….

Dee (16:52:20) :

Or as they say in the south when you’re a complete moron, “Bless your heart.”

Sorry, but I’m in the “Calling Bullshit” camp, even though I’m from Southern California.

11 11 2008
Off Topic

Well if she only bought a pair of shoes then returning the clothes is a cinch…put everything for the last few months in a box…pull out the shoes…tape the box up and send all that shiyaaaat back…case closed.

Or was she just telling on herself that ‘yeah, really anything you saw me in the RNC paid for, so the story is true’

And, is Bristol sequestered somewhere we don’t know about along with Levi? I know that rouge cou wants some tabloid money…go talk to him already, someone, anyone….Geez I know those two star crossed lovers go out to eat sometimes, or to 7-11 or the Moose Burger for a coke and fry’s.

Can someone say Video Tape? That town is tighter than the non-existent plane evidence from the pentagon crash back in ’01.

Goood Laaawwwwd…. I know there gotta be some enterprising gossip hounds up their wanting their ‘Joe the Plumber’ 15 minutes of fame fix.

Get to it….

11 11 2008
megacephalus

@ the problem child (a jerk, also) (16:29:59) :

“Can’t imagine Neiman Marcus would take back something damaged.”

weeelll… Alaska has…

11 11 2008
Melissa

There are still people out there who think Obama who wasn’t born in Hawaii.

11 11 2008
proudgranny

Re: “the wardrobe”. I understand Sarah may be able to purchase items she would like to keep. I expect they will be firehouse prices for her & perhaps she does have a wardrobe allowance as part of her Govenor’s salary for those First Family functions? It seems nearly everything she does in her life is a reimbursable activity.
But then love or hate her she did energize the campaign!

11 11 2008
Palin and the Right Keep Tripping Over Their Narcissism « The Long Goodbye

[…] like much of the Right’s political leaders suffers from that peculiar brand of narcissism that just doesn’t allow for inward reflection. Its everyone’s fault, but Palin’s. […]

11 11 2008
hc

sorry have not read all the previous comments, but: does the ADN reporter not ask follow-ups and point out that all we got was a summary? isn’t he/she doing the full journalist’s job? why should YOU have to be asking this instead of the person (the reporter) who had access to the elusive palin?

11 11 2008
Ciaran87

You are absolutely right, DeMo, that the pregnancy issue does matter. Thank you for clarifying that for me. It points to character at the very least.
I feel bad for the kids and have since the very first time I laid eyes on Bristol Palin at the RNC. The picture was pretty but there was something off about the way she was presented along with the baby.
I was horrified at the way the Palin children were pandered at the Convention and along the campaign trail. I hope my ambitions will never be so high that I would subject my 17 yr old daughter to the kind of public scrutiny that was laid on Bristol Palin. Where is Bristol, anyway?

11 11 2008
Oklad

How Greta Van Slutsturn can sit for so long listening to the drivel that comes out of Palin’s mouth without jamming knitting needles into her own eardrums is beyond my comprehension..

When I try to read transcripts of the interview my brain just seems to shut down as if it’s going places it’s never been before..
.
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11 11 2008
cgr

It’s beginning to be obvious that Sarah is more than just ditsy. She really is delusional, completely out of touch with what is true, speaking lies, saying things then completely contradicting what she’s said and not seeing it! There’s a serious screw loose somewhere. Among the many voices seeing this more and more clearly:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-odd-lies–4.html

11 11 2008
Yorkie

Please get investigations started into all of these “gates”. She is terrifying-knows little and thinks she knows it all, charismatic and capable of whipping crowds into a frenzy. We have all seen uninformed bigotted people, with little understanding of the world and how it functions, get into power. We cannot afford this again. The world can’t afford it.
We need you all to get this going. And if there is a way for those of us in the Lower 48 to help, let us know.
Many thanks.

12 11 2008
Leigh Oats

I can’t imagine what prompted me to think of this snippet of conversation in the brilliant 1993 movie _Dave_, between Bob Alexander (White House chief of staff, played by Frank Langella) and Alan Reed (White House communications director, played by Kevin Dunn):

++++++++++++++++

BOB ALEXANDER: What about containment, Alan?

(Reed heaves a sigh and looks at his notes.)

ALAN REED: I got the nurses for fifty grand a piece and the doctors for a hundred.

http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=dave

12 11 2008
Leigh Oats

Says cgr (09:46:02 on 11 November): “It’s beginning to be obvious that Sarah is more than just ditsy.”

Yes. The world would rather have had Lina Lamont as the USA’s vice-resident. In the ditz parade Lina had (has? the classic movie is immortal) a less intolerable voice.

12 11 2008
Leigh Oats

Says Yorkie (10:07:03) on 11 November: “Please get investigations started into all of these ‘gates’.”

That reminds me of the word that the Bombe Alaska habitually utters instead of _clothes_: “close”. Let’s have an open-gate policy on Closegate.

12 11 2008
thatgirlinnewyork

isn’t it funny how welcoming she is to media outlets now that she’s been sprung? where was all this cozy honesty when she thought voters should get to know her? vomit-worthy fakery. you can keep her–please!!

13 11 2008
kejia

@ the problem child (a jerk, also) (16:29:59) :

“Can’t imagine Neiman Marcus would take back something damaged.”

They could sell it on ebay!🙂

kejia from N.C.




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