Palin on Banning Books.

10 11 2008

Welcome to the third installment of the dissection of Sarah Palin’s latest interview. When we last left Sarah Palin in the middle of her interview at her Wasilla home on Sunday, she was talking about all those “goofy” stories that the media could have gotten right, if only they had known how to do their jobs. If only they had dug a little deeper to get the real story. If only those hacks at the New York Times, and the Washington Post understood real journalism. Alas, this is the cross that Sarah Palin must bear. She explains.

Regarding information regarding my record that is now out there, much of it that was based on misinformation was a very very frustrating thing to have to go through when the record was never corrected. We would try to correct the record and too many in the media chose not to make those corrections or clarifications, and then I felt too often we were a bit defenseless in so many things that were reported wrongly that could have so easily been corrected just based on facts…

One of the examples she gave is this:

Banning books…that was a rediculous thing also that could so easily have been corrected by a reporter taking an extra step and not basing a report on gossip or speculation, but just lookin’ into the record…uh, the banning books issue, easily disproved when it was reported that I tried to ban Harry Potter, and it hadn’t even been written when I was the mayor.

First things first. Sarah Palin never actually banned books, and other than some exhuberant bloggers that jumped the gun, I don’t know of any reports that she did. Were the rumors rampant that she did? Absolutely. I fielded lots of inquiries when this story first came out, and I set the record straight every time. And the real story shouldn’t make us feel much better about things, because the answer to the question “Why didn’t Sarah Palin ban books?” is not that the thought of book banning offended her moral sensibilities, it was that she couldn’t get away with it.

A good summary can be found in a fascinating article by Noam Scheiber, in The New Republic. He recounts the book story after talking to Laura Chase, a Wasilla councilwoman.

As a rule, the city’s department heads attended every city council meeting. One evening, as the session wound down, Palin mentioned to Mary Ellen Emmons, the library director, that something had been bothering her – a book she thought was overly indulgent of homosexuality. “She said there was no room in our library for that kind of stuff,” recalled Chase. Emmons curtly disagreed, but Palin was adamant. She suggested the librarian could at least keep such books in the reference section, where visitors would have to request them. “We don’t believe in censoring books,” Emmons finally told her, at which point Palin trailed off muttering. [snip] Within a year, Palin had blown through her personal enemies list. She had demanded the resignation of Emmons, the librarian opposed to censorship (who successfully fought for her job)….

So, you see, she didn’t ban books…she just tried to fire a librarian who wouldn’t censor them. If someone is offended at the prospect of book banning, the “real” story certainly won’t make them feel any better.

On to Harry Potter. The reference to Palin wanting to ban Harry Potter came from an anonymous email. I got this email 3 or 4 times. There was no source cited, just a long list of “controversial” books that Palin supposedly wanted banned, including not only the first five Harry Potter books (two of which weren’t even written at the time), but Lady Chatterly’s Lover, James and the Giant Peach, and everything by Judy Blume. Not one serious news organization printed this. So when Sarah Palin whines about bad journalism, and the media not living up to their responsibility, and when she says “it was reported,” the reporters she’s talking about are simply people who forward controversial emails without knowing if they’re true.

So what books did she want removed from shelves? One that we know about is the book Pastor, I’m Gay by the Rev. Howard Bess. I had the pleasure of meeting Rev. Bess, and heard the story from his own mouth. It was also reported by David Talbot of Salon.

After she became mayor of Wasilla, according to Bess, Sarah Palin tried to get rid of his book from the local library. Palin now denies that she wanted to censor library books, but Bess insists that his book was on a “hit list” targeted by Palin. “I’m as certain of that as I am that I’m sitting here. This is a small town, we all know each other. People in city government have confirmed to me what Sarah was trying to do.”

What about the other books on Palin’s “hit list”? We may never know, but does it really matter? What if she supported banning some books and not others? The point is, we shouldn’t be banning any of them. Free speech doesn’t work if it’s only the free speech the mayor of Wasilla agrees with. Once you seek to ban one book, you’ve already lost the Constitutional high ground.

(More to come on this interview…)

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104 responses

10 11 2008
mhrt oregon

now I am scared to comment
Foist…..
In this day no books should be banned……

10 11 2008
mhrt oregon

SWWNBN is like in the hobbit..every thing she says is a riddle.

10 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

With SP’s far right religious beliefs – it does not surprise me (and did not surprise me) that books would be on “her hit list”

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

She must have read about the email on Snopes, where it is discredited.

10 11 2008
mhrt oregon

I know why she was so messed up for interview in her office….she was up all night reading mudflats……….no wonder she looked so tired..

10 11 2008
Bella the Bunny Girl

And this is how she gets to be sanctimonious about being “wronged”

10 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Carrying over from the Prev. Thread —

altho the Newsweek video was shown to be how pregnant SP was in March 08 (which didn’t appear very pregnant) however – the 2nd video in that series was about her saying Hillary was “whining” about the press and how you had to rise above it —

Ha ha ha — SP – eat your words now that you’ve had a taste of National Politics.

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Over the weekend I was reading on a librarians’ website and they are all over it. You probably don’t want to rile a librarian – who knew?

Apparently the moose burghers objected to ‘Go Ask Alice’ as well. Also.

10 11 2008
Lori W.

She cannot get anything right:
SP: “And banning books. That was a ridiculous thing also that could have so easily been corrected just by a reporter taking an extra step and not basing a report on gossip or speculation. But just looking into the record. It was reported that I tried to ban Harry Potter when it hadn’t even been written when I was the mayor. So, gosh, we have so many examples, I mean every day, especially the first few weeks, every day something that was thrown out there.”

Harry Potter was published in the United States in 1998…. While Sarah Palin was Mayor.

What an ironic situation, to be complaining about misinformation while providing… well, misinformation.

10 11 2008
Nisperos

We shouldn’t be banning books…

But then again, we shouldn’t be keeping records of which materials people check out of the library, except for the purpose of making sure materials are returned…

10 11 2008
portland oregon native

SP would be right at home on that Carnival cruise boat to which I was recently subjected. Maybe she should apply to be the new spokesperson for Carnival cruises?
The so called library (or is it ‘liebarry’?) consisted of book spines coated with epoxy and glued to the walls of a closet like room where one could go to have internet access for $10 for 10 minutes.
If she had ever read Peter Rabbit I would be shocked!
I really wish the media would just ignore her.

10 11 2008
strangelet

This is one of the bits of Palintology that has been, unfortunately, weakened in its impact because of the original overblown reaction (despite AKM’s efforts to keep the record straight). It turns out that (probably) she never did exactly try to ban any books, and she didn’t actually succeed in firing the librarian. I’m afraid that a lot of folks see this as no harm, no foul.

What is lost in the shuffle is the fact that NO damn small-town mayor in THIS COUNTRY has any business “asking discreetly” about the possibility of banning or restricting books. The First Amendment applies to all levels of government, even Wasilla. That is one of those “freedoms” that “they” hate us for, Sarah, and if you don’t realize that, then I guess you are one of “them”.

This episode also illustrates Palin’s ignorance — never, never cross a serious librarian about free access to literature.

10 11 2008
Kelly M

Heartbreaking. If our formerly strong legislature lets her get away with this cr*p… how can they do battle with her when she’s potentially VP then let her get away with the very “gates” they were fighting over when she comes back? Buck UP legislators, she’s probably more of a crook than Frank was!

10 11 2008
strangelet

Aussie Blue Sky (21:24:20) :

I’ve been fairly close to a couple of librarians, and believe me you do NOT want to rile them about library stuff. (I liked that)

10 11 2008
mudslide pike

I find this interesting we have news media that don;t like to do the research and a politician that has a problem getting the story straight. Maybe just maybe if we had real journalist that did all the work before meeting the deadline. We would be able to make better judgments about who should be trusted with the power of making decisions that effect us all. People like AKM the mysterious. We are in dire need to fine people who can dig out the truth.

10 11 2008
mhrt oregon

OT my 5 yo g-daughter calls our president elect …Rock Obama,,,,and then does a lillle cheer leader thing….so cute

10 11 2008
Pat, Washingonton state

Nor do you want to rile people who are avid readers. There are any number of books that I personally choose not to read, but I would never ever suggest that they be banned, nor would I want them in a restricted section of the library.

I remember when I was teaching that the issue came up about a book our librarian had purchased that had lovely photographs of a family, with one or two of a naked child. It was entirely appropriate for the book and tastefully done. The suggestion was that the pages be glued together. Argh! I think I was the only one on the side of the librarian to leave it alone and on the shelf. And if I remember correctly, it was an award winner to boot.

With all these latest interviews with Palin, I’ve noticed that she complains (and whines) loudly about how they’ve taken things out of context or twisted them around. But, wait – wasn’t that what she kept doing in all the speeches she gave, especially about Obama? Hmmm, live by your own rules, Sarah, or someone will call you on it. Wish the reporters would – oh, but then they would be picking on her wouldn’t they? Too bad she didn’t learn the rules about being a nationally (and unfortunately, international) recognized celebrity before she so hastily said yes to McCain.

Pat

10 11 2008
Zim in Oz

Ummmm ?

{http://community.adn.com/adn/node/134247}
>>>As we arrived at the house — past the the tiny green ATV parked next to the door — Greta Van Susteren was about to leave. >>>
* video…Palin wearing swanky black

{http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/sarah-palin-fox-news-inte_n_142856.html}
Interview with Greta Van Suspect for Fox
* video…Palin wearing pretty pink

She changed clothes between interviews…

*evening all from a pretty hot day in Melbourne Australia* (31C or 88F)

10 11 2008
Peter from Ketchikan

I am becoming only more and more aware of how underwhelming Sarah’s speaking is… I still remember seeing her destroyed in a gubernatorial debate by Halcro and Knowles and thinking “there’s no way she can win this race.” I guess articulation and knowledge to back it up don’t count for much.

10 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

I wanted to bring up the talk on prev. threads (if I may be so bold) about forming a Mudflat PAC to support different causes/politicians/ etc.

Altho I am not totally informed or educated on such things – it seems these PAC’s have tax exempt status & have to undergo vetting with the IRS etc. I am not sure what “hoops” have to be gone thru – but am sure it will be fairly time consuming.

Perhaps we can post a link (or AKM can set up a PAC Info page) to already existing PAC’s that we feel other Mudpuppies may be interested in supporting. Like the Defenders of Wildlife (or whatever its called) and we can “state our case” for support and list the link.

Just a thought

10 11 2008
Zim in Oz

In That Fox video on Huff Post

>>>The governor also lashed out at bloggers “sitting in their parents’ basement, wearing their pajamas” for some of the questions that were raised about her record and credibility.>>>

Ooops ! AKM….she is on to you !😀 😀 😀

I saw that! Too funny. Especially since I was wearing pajamas at the time! 🙂
AKM

10 11 2008
SMR

I bought the 1st Harry P in 1999 for my daughter. Anyone remember when Bible/Grifter Spice was mayor? I’ve blanked it out.

10 11 2008
NSWFM

“…James and the Giant Peach, and everything by Judy Blume.”

OK, she is nuts.

What is wrong with James and the Giant Peach? I read that book, went to college, then went on and got a graduate degree…otherwise turned out pretty normal. What’s wrong with a kids book like that?

She didn’t request that those be banned. They were just on that viral unsubstantiated email…the one with Harry Potter on it. AKM

10 11 2008
NMJ

Alaskans need to remember that SP just had an intensive 2-month immersion course taught by pros in “How to Avoid Questions and Deflect Blame.”

And don’t be thinkin’ that librarians are just fancy file clerks; it usually requires a degree in Library Science. Probably why they’re such good fighters. And any librarian would instantly quantify SP’s level of intelligence after hearing her speak for 10 seconds.

10 11 2008
Steph in KS

James & The Giant Peach is “too violent” and Roald Dahl is a fave of the book banners because he uses witchcraft and violence.

http://www.bookslut.com/banned_bookslut/2003_12_001147.php

However, Palin never requested that this book be banned.

10 11 2008
Sue

Do you think SP reads this blog? If so, we are feeding her ego. : (

10 11 2008
NMJ

Sue (22:39:06) : Do you think SP reads this blog? If so, we are feeding her ego. : (

I seriously doubt that she reads this blog; she wouldn’t be able to pronounce or understand most of the words.

10 11 2008
Stanley Krute

One interesting thing about the interview: it will only deepen the wingnuts drive to make her Prez in 2012.

Palin’s next major goal: grabbing half the independents by words and deeds that build her cred with that group. A tack to the middle. Her performance next week at the Governor’s Event will be quite interesting in that regard.

She is NOT stupid, folks. She learns quickly. She has natural communications skills that she will continue to hone. She is a shameless liar. Thanks AKM for helping us keep an eye on her.

We will never see the medical records, by the way.

10 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Morning from Europe… well, I am sitting in my office in my dressing gown, not pyjamas, but still…

I agree – it’s not whether or not she actually removed books from the library that’s the issue… but trying to strongarm a librarian into doing so. How stupid can you be? And then try to fire the librarian? She obviously had no idea idea that librarians are not nice ladies (usually, sorry guys) who just stand behind a desk – they are intelligent, made of steel and stick to their principles. Perhaps if she’s spent more time around books (instead of just the one) she’d know this.

Are there books in that huge echoey house of hers?

10 11 2008
Tree Fitzpatrick

She is kinda mesmerizing, isn’t she?

I bet she is trying to convince herself that she can doggedly insist on doing whatever she wants. After all, up until now, she has gotten away with doing what she wants. Remember, when she spent 50K remodeling her mayoral office and someone pointed out to her that it was illegal she said “I’m the mayor, I can do what I want”. . . she still thinks this way. . .

I will be fascinated to see if Alaska continues to let her bill for her children’s travel. . . I can see a very few formal state functions where the state’s first family ought to, appropriately, attend . . . but if I were an Alaska taxpayer, man, it would choke me to see the state pay to fly her kids to watch Todd’s snowmobile race. Surely that is not an official state function?! And flying Bristol to NYC? What has that got to do with an Alaska public interest?

Just as the country choked down George W., reelecting him when we all had plenty of opportunity to see what he was like, I bet she gets away with her petty chiseling.

10 11 2008
AKMama

AKM, thank you for continuing to shine the spotlight on this! As an Alaskan, I have been so disappointed and embarrassed by our governor’s behavior and it just keeps getting worse. What can we do to put pressure on the legislature to not just let bygone be bygones?

10 11 2008
DeMo

I’m OT. Forgive me. In a prior thread, someone linked a video of Palin speaking while supposedly pregnant. (Multi tasking.) In her blizzard of words, she says she left the role of Miss Congeniality behind her.

Say it aint so, Sarah. You were nothing but congenial when you introduced yourself to America at the RNC. I got the warm fuzzies when you said that being mayor was kinda like being a community organizer, only you had real/actual responsibilites. Forgive me, I’m tearing up again. A Hallmark moment.

No, congenial is not how I would describe Palin. There is, however, another “C” word I would use, but I’ll refrain. In fact, I’ll avoid all “C” words for the duration of this post. That’s just how klassy I am.

10 11 2008
Tree Fitzpatrick

I agree, completely, with Stanley’s warning. She is smart, a fast learner. She does not have to learn much substance. All she needs to learn is spin technique. She is an unconscionable liar with a lust for power.

I don’t think we’ve seen the last of her on the national stage. Her venality is so creepy, isn’t it?

Some of this interview is ‘just’ bravado. Being callous and disregarding the moral consequences of her choices is central to who she is and in the past, by publicing declaring herself to be able to do what she wants because she is in power, that has worked. It will be fascinating, and potentially sickening, to see if she is allowed to keep behaving this way.

If she keeps billing the state to fly her kids all over and she is allowed to keep doing that, well, Alaska might deserve her.

I am wondering if the state will have to pay to fly her grandchild? Babies ride for free for awhile . . .and her maybe son-in-law?

10 11 2008
DeMo

Stanley Krute (22:44:54) said:

…Palin’s next major goal: grabbing half the independents by words and deeds that build her cred with that group. A tack to the middle. Her performance next week at the Governor’s Event will be quite interesting in that regard.

She is NOT stupid, folks. She learns quickly. She has natural communications skills that she will continue to hone. She is a shameless liar. Thanks AKM for helping us keep an eye on her…”
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I both agree and disagree. She will try to grab the Independents. She is stupid, in my estimation. One who doesn’t learn, is incapable of learning, refuses to learn is stupid. What she is is conniving and that is what makes her especially dangerous.

*Maybe* it takes intelligence to scheme the way she does, but I don’t think so. Blind ambition is powerful. There isn’t a corrective lens in the world that will make this woman see clearly.

I am afraid of her and people like her. I’m taking some comfort in the stats of former also-rans who disappeared. But I’m also keeping my eye on her, via AKM, of course.

10 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Good morning (also) from Europe! Need to catch up…

From previous thread:
@ mvngfwd (13:00:29) :

First, OT- My husband says he wants to order a “Mudflats Widower” t-shirt as soon they are available. It seems fair since I have one that says “Poker Widow” that I got when he was all into online poker.

I’m for that “Mudflats Widower” -shirt.

I said this about those beautiful shoes she wore for her coming home interview on the icy tarmac at the airport and I’ll say it now for the clothes – she probably thinks that the RNC lawyer would never dare ripping things off of her body so she wears her favorites. And she probably thinks that if she wears some of the new duds in public enough everyone will just assume that those clothes are her own.

I disagree that she has great communication skills. She can spew really well from a teleprompter (even ad libbing well when the subject comes from her guts), but what she spews is not any language I know, which I believe is a necessary quality for a great communicator. Shis great at attracting that wedge of our society who are un- or under-educated who probably only understand the hate with religious overtones that come out of her piehole. She can look good (“hot” if you are attracted to that) and screech loudly. I don’t think that “stupid” or “not stupid” matters (I think personally she is very stupid only by hearing her blather on and on on subjects she clearly knows nothing about, thinking that the greater the number of words in an answer the smarter the answer), I think she is good at making her personal and religious ideology clear to those that already share her underlying beliefs.

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Enjay in Eastern MT (22:07:43) :

I think we should definitely have a PAC, something like AlaskaWatch to keep an eye on what the politicians are doing, and what they’re not doing – and things like Hollis French playing footsie with Mrs Palin.

Then there is the question (many questions, really) of Talis Colberg – his appointment and his behaviour.

This has been occupying my mind today:
If Stevens beats Begich
And Stevens is thrown out of the Senate
Assume Begich will run again
Assume S. Palin runs
AlaskaWatch can help back an Independent candidate who might well do a Sarah Palin and emerge from the pack with the ball, given the other two have form and enemies that might cancel each other out.

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

ohhhhh sorry about that bold thing

10 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

DeMo (23:08:59) :

*Maybe* it takes intelligence to scheme the way she does, but I don’t think so.
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There is a term for it that includes the word intelligence, but I prefer to call it what it is: rat cunning.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Good morning, Jamie. Near bedtime in CA. I don’t think Palin is “stupid”, but I also don’t think she is particularly sharp. I doubt that she will study-up to become plausible on a Presidential level because I see no prior evidence of her having any intellectual curiosity of discipline.

The reason she is marginally conversant with Alaskan energy issues is that she was appointed to a board for a couple years and absorbed some of the jargon. If she remains Governor, she will be far too busy flying off to start the Iron Dog, or whatever, to study any national or international issues. If she does somehow become Senator, maybe she might pick up a few things, …

The one worry I have is that she might be subsumed by a mass of “advisors”, as was Reagan. But even with Ronnie, it took a full eight years as Governor to really get him programmed. And he always had the congenial Old Ranger thing going that pulled in the center. Palin needs to de-stridentify a couple orders of magnitude to match that. The other thing that I think will eventually dissuade the would-be queen-makers is that Reagan was the fairly popular (with those who didn’t hate him) Governor of 55 Electoral Vote Normally Blue California. While his actual victory margins were very large, those 55 unnatural EVs gave him a huge cushion. Palin’s 3 EVs from AK that will go red anyhow are not of the same strategic importance.

10 11 2008
strangelet

Oy, and I see no evidence that I can type. “curiosity OR discipline”.

10 11 2008
Stanley Krute

Thanks to folks for clarifying what I was driving at RE stupidity.

Rat cunning works for me. It’s the kind of intelligence that sociopaths have in abundance. Ever been around a real sociopath ? They’re almost telepathic in their ability to twist folks’ minds.

To the wingnuts, she’s a hot femme version of Reagan.

If I were Satan, and was interested in building an anti-Christ, it’d be Palin, not Obama. You always want the mole inside the castle keep. Hmmm …. maybe it’s time for some viral email to that effect …..

10 11 2008
PDX MB

Jamie, Floridian in France (23:12:43) :

Good morning (also) from Europe! Need to catch up…

From previous thread:
@ mvngfwd (13:00:29) :

First, OT- My husband says he wants to order a “Mudflats Widower” t-shirt as soon they are available. It seems fair since I have one that says “Poker Widow” that I got when he was all into online poker.

I’m for that “Mudflats Widower” -shirt.
***************

My kids will want “Mudflats Orphan” shirts…

10 11 2008
GaryB

The one thing Palin, Rove and Bush all have in common is that they are sociopaths http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
See what you recognize:

# Glibness and Superficial Charm

# Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

# Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”

# Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

# Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

# Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

# Incapacity for Love

# Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

# Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

# Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

# Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

# Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

# Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

# Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

# Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution

10 11 2008
DeMo

Bidding all a good night from NYC. Waaaaay past my bedtime.

For those of you just arriving, in the words of will.i.am., “It’s a New Day.” Enjoy and I’ll see you later.

As always, been a pleasure “speaking” with all the Mudpups…

11 11 2008
Zim in Oz

I’m back…

As much as I cannot stand to hear her I have watched a few interviews in the last few days…(secretly hoping she would self destruct) Apart from that squawk of a voice she is absolutely, unbelievabley stooopid.

I am not being mean…it is true…listen to her.

I cannot, I stress, I cannot believe she was EVER employed first as a sportscaster, then a mayor and then served on some oil board or such.

AND…AND…ALSO…..A GOVERNOR….excuse me….HOW ?

There is nothing there…nothing…who the hell employed her ?
There is no way her intelligence got her where she is.

There has got to be more, somewhere we are not seeing that is in front of us.

I read an article about the Palins being like the mafia…is that it ?
or
Like so many of those ex-beauty queen repub bimbos that have a powerful or rich husband….is this a new sport ?
Like, I am so rich or ‘well connected’ I bought my pretty little ‘ya betcha’ wife a senate seat/Governorship…?

What is really going on ?

11 11 2008
Melissa

First off, as somebody with Library training (I hold a two year diploma in Library Sciences), there are always going materials that people would want to get banned. Would you believe me if I told you that Little House books were banned at one point? Probably not, but there was at least one book of the series that was banned from libraries. When I was cataloguing for a school district here in BC, I came across material that I would have not ordered for the particular school as I thought that was inappropriate and probably wouldn’t have chosen it myself.

Secondly, if a kid finds and signs out the particular materials in question and a parent doesn’t like that they have, then they should sit down with their kid and tell them why they find it objectionable. I remember I signed out Harlequin’s as a young teenager and I think my mom found them after hiding them under my bed.

Thirdly, a local government official (ie, mayor, councilperson) shouldn’t tell a local librarian what sort of material should or shouldn’t be in the library. And then they shouldn’t be telling library staff as to where the book should be in the collection. It should be the discretion of the head librarian (or the person in charge of acquisitions) as to what material is ordered for the library’s collection and where it should be located.

11 11 2008
megacephalus

…and more DOONESBURY on ‘compulsive poll following disorder’ and SP:

.http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/

“I’m like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I’m like, don’t let me miss the open door… And if there is an open door in (20)12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I’ll plow through that door.”
— Sarah Palin, on running for president

11 11 2008
Physicsmom

You can blame the rap on bloggers “sitting in their parents’ basement wearing pajamas” to Joe Scarborough. He started that meme and uses it all the time on his morning show. I believe he met Palin on the trail and probably told her not to worry about them (us). Usually he adds “eating Cheetos,” also. Also.

11 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Steph in KS (22:32:40) :

“James & The Giant Peach is “too violent” and Roald Dahl* is a fave of the book banners because he uses witchcraft and violence.”

hmmm… thought SP was into witch doctors and violence on an international scale…?

* RD did however write some delightful short stories ‘for adults’😉

11 11 2008
megacephalus

@ GaryB (23:51:04) : …and others on the sociopath thing:

REALLY read up on biography/history of our German [ok pre-Haider Austrian] Adolf Hitler… several discomforting parallels here…

11 11 2008
Zim in Oz

@megacephalus (00:20:46) :
>>* RD did however write some delightful short stories ‘for adults’ >>

Too true…’Kiss kiss’ and ‘Switch bitch’😉

11 11 2008
Don Smith

“Never forget the hand that helps you up … Or the boot that shows you the door.”

Please forgive me, I know this is not generic to the post, but would all of you please remember a vet today.

Thanks,

A vet.

11 11 2008
NMJ

Aussie Blue Sky (23:28:28) : There is a term for it that includes the word intelligence, but I prefer to call it what it is: rat cunning.

Exactly.

11 11 2008
Actongue

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the press only work if its in favour of Palin it seems.

11 11 2008
metanoia2k

This is a technique Sarah learned on the campaign trail. Argue against one thing by producing examples of something else. For example, arguing about the use of the phrase “lipstick on a pig” spared the McCain campaign from having to respond to Barack Obama’s real point: than “… John McCain claims he’s all for change…well you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig…”

Similarly, the McCaananites got their panties in a bunch over the admonition by congressman Lewis that the inciting of hateful passions against Barack Obama is “playing with fire”. He cited having seen similar angry mobs stirred up by George Wallace. Soon thereafter, individuals bombed churches which resulted in the death of 4 innocent children. So how did they respond–with outrage. “How dare congressman Lewis compare me and my running mate to George Wallace!” Of course that was not what Lewis was doing, he was talking about the campaign rallies stirring up passions that incited supporters to harrass the news media and shout “kill him” at the mention of Barack Obama’s name. Rather than address the point made by Congressman Lewis, they chose to respond to another point entirely.

Okay, this is a long way to say that Sarah’s whining about her treatrment by the media raised legitimate points. They called bullshit on her claims that she said “thanks but no thanks” on the bridge to nowhere. It was her callow and incompetent performances that resulted in the viral mocking of her–that was not the news media; that was comedy central and YouTube. From her idiotic comments mocking fruit fly research to her ironic comments attacking Barack Obama’s experience, Sarah Palin was a walking set-up in a political environment hungry for leadership and impatient with self-serving baloney being fed to the media by the McCain-Palin camp.

I am sick of Sarah and her goddamned moose chili. Oh…she sure likes the media when she gets the Greta Van Susteren knob polishing, doesn’t she?

enough–I must crawl under my rock and sleep.

11 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

The 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month 1918 – the end of WWI. We are watching the ceremony at Verdun. Very moving. And yes, Don Smith, remember a vet.

11 11 2008
Grammy in PA

OT – but I just got this in an email this morning:

Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00

When will “they” give it a rest??

11 11 2008
Twinky Winky Pony Palin

megacephalus@00:28:51

Oh that’s it. I’m calling Godwin’s Law on this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

I think we can call out self-interested rat-cunning for what it is without resorting to hysterical comparisons.

If you want to compare her to anyone, just think of any middle-management bullying boss you’ve had.

11 11 2008
NY Dem

Off thread, and hope it hasn’t already been posted (if so , I missed it somewhere):

Secret Service Codenames for the First Family and VP family:

Barack Obama (President-elect) – Renegade

* Michelle Obama – Renaissance
* Malia Obama – Radiance
* Sasha Obama – Rosebud

Joe Biden (Vice president-elect) – Celtic

* Jill Biden – Capri

—————————————————-

Also:

# John McCain – Phoenix

* Cindy McCain – Parasol

# Sarah Palin – Denali

* Todd Palin – Driller

Here’s the Wickipedia link for many other codenames of world leaders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Service_codenames

My favorite: Ted Kennedy = Sunburn !

11 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

I am just rejoining the crowd out there in mudflatsland after a very muddy run with Marty in the park.

Just refering back to strangelet : re : SP “she absorbs jargon” and “I see no prior evidence of her having any intellectual curiosity or discipline.”

That is exactly it, which, in my humble opinion, is why she attracted only the uneducated redneck (mostly) or die-hard religious fanatics and lost the rest. Reagan, for as uneducated as he was, understood that he had to appeal to the center and could do that, maybe because he wasn’t hampered by a religious far right agenda. Her lack of curiosity was immediately evident by her lack of understanding of even the basic issue or event and over the two months that she was a candidate showed evidence that, though she memorized the basic talking points and necessary “jargon”, she never went and tried to learn what she didn’t know. And she didn’t seem to care! Her lack of discipline was also evident whenever she went off on her own ideological battle points and thumbed her nose at the McCain campaign and her advisors and blathered on and on during interviews.

11 11 2008
NY Dem

Off thread, and hope it hasn’t already been posted (if so , I missed it somewhere):

Secret Service Codenames for the First Family and VP family:

Barack Obama (President-elect) – Renegade

* Michelle Obama – Renaissance
* Malia Obama – Radiance
* Sasha Obama – Rosebud

Joe Biden (Vice president-elect) – Celtic

* Jill Biden – Capri

—————————————————-

Also:

# John McCain – Phoenix

* Cindy McCain – Parasol

# Sarah Palin – Denali

* Todd Palin – Driller

11 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

NEW THREAD!

11 11 2008
11 11 2008
Mollys Mum

@
Zim in Oz (00:00:54) :
I’m back…

As much as I cannot stand to hear her I have watched a few interviews in the last few days…(secretly hoping she would self destruct) Apart from that squawk of a voice she is absolutely, unbelievabley stooopid.

I am not being mean…it is true…listen to her.

I cannot, I stress, I cannot believe she was EVER employed first as a sportscaster, then a mayor and then served on some oil board or such.

AND…AND…ALSO…..A GOVERNOR….excuse me….HOW ?

There is nothing there…nothing…who the hell employed her ?
There is no way her intelligence got her where she is.

There has got to be more, somewhere we are not seeing that is in front of us.

I read an article about the Palins being like the mafia…is that it ?
or
Like so many of those ex-beauty queen repub bimbos that have a powerful or rich husband….is this a new sport ?
Like, I am so rich or ‘well connected’ I bought my pretty little ‘ya betcha’ wife a senate seat/Governorship…?

What is really going on ?

******************

Zim, I agree with every word of the above post. I watched that interview last night and I had to force myself to stay awake. She doesn’t seem to have an original molecule in her brain.

Earlier on, Rachel Maddow was speaking with one of the state senators from Alaska who confirmed that the vote was unusually low there–suspiciously so.

I echo your last line, Zim. What is going on there?

11 11 2008
BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin

mhrt oregon (21:17:16) :

SWWNBN is like in the hobbit..every thing she says is a riddle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not at all. Hobbits speak in riddles that are easily deciphered and rich in subtextual nuance. They are great communicators in their own way.

The Sarah is one of the worst cases of word salad that I have ever heard. This inability to clearly construct a logical sentence combined with her (inept) deviousness imbues her with a bizarre surrealism. She does not really communicate when she speaks, but rather self-stims like a severely autistic child. She is speaking to herself or her inner “mirror, mirror on the wall” at all times.

Logical reasoning tells me that such a creature could not possibly exist, let alone become Governor of one of the 50 States.

Alas, my own senses tell me she DOES indeed exist, and that she came dangerously and unthinkably close to being 2nd in line to the position of POTUS.

This paradox has me severely rattled. Every time she appears in the MSM, I have to pinch myself, and ask myself “is this real, or did hearing her voice just send me on a bad flashback?”

Hobbits only appear in my GOOD flashbacks, which all end when one of the furry-toed folk goes on to destroy the Evil One in the fiery depths of Mordor’s Mt. Doom.

Where, oh where, is Alaska’s equivalent of good Master Frodo?

11 11 2008
Zamboni Hussein Polar

Alas, to be unjustly smeared with baseless innuendo! Like Palin’ around with tearists…

11 11 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

I don’t know if anybody has mentioned this, since i got too far behind to read all the comments yesterday and today, but when I read that quote by Chuck Heath, I thought to myself, he sounds just like Sarah. She must have gotten that horrid way of speaking from her father. He seems a bit delusional too. Must run in the family. Mom, on the other hand, appears to be the beaming silent cheerleader. What’s her story? I think dad and sarah have been running the show for a very long time. I’m also suspicious of dad’s science teacher credentials. Not his actual credential, just his knowledge and effectiveness as a teacher.
Am I branching out in my disgust? Yup. I don’t believe that somebody like sarah is completely created in a vacuum, even if she was born a narcissistic sociopath. My guess: dad showed her the ropes, mom served as doormat.

11 11 2008
Dee

The books on that list are part of a list that circulates every year during Read a Banned Book Week. All of those titles have either been banned or “questioned” by some school district or some religious group or other. When this story came to light and my very conservative, church going friends picked on its veracity, I told them about Rev. Bess’s book and the council meeting and the way the town fought to keep the librarian’s job (all things I learned by reading Mudflats) and I gave them this web address so they could check out the story themselves. Then , because they are my friends, we stopped discussing all things political. I knew I was going to be voting for the “audacity of hope” and I had faith that the rest of America would do the same.

11 11 2008
SC Sista M Cluckhead

Well, now we know whose rights we must delete NOW: bloggers in pajamas.

Librarians will be next. It is funny that they have such a mild image: the stern lady who shushes you, when you speak too loud. In reality, they really are some seriously focused people and were among the few to object to many parts of the original Patriot Act.

My sister-in-law is a librarian. Last year for Christmas, I gave her the Nancy Pearl Librarian Action Figure. It is awesome.

You go, LIbrarians!

11 11 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

I’m so very glad that she is still talking, and still digging a deep hole for herself.

From the fact of Palin’s asking a librarian to ban a book about Gay people it is not a huge leap that she unfortunately might have tried to ban other books. It has happened in “Real America” with other people from one of her “Real Americans” in the “Republican Base.”

Down in Gwinnet Count near Atlanta, a right-wingnut named Laura Mallory who admittedly had never read a single Harry Potter book fought for two years to have the city council remove the series due to Satanism and Witchcraft.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/04/AR2006100400377.html

We know that Palin believes that witches are real, and need to be cast out. She also believes in evil spirits. So it is not impossible that given enough power and time she might have concluded that Harry Potter is a Satanic Socialist Marxist treatise that needs to be banned.

(I’m a Christian, by the way, and I believe that the Harry Potter books are totally moral in every way, good versus evil and all that stuff.)

11 11 2008
BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin

Just another thought.

If we did a survey asking people to vote on which they liked better, do you think we would have a statisitcally relevant correllary split separating those who voted for McCain and those who voted for Obama by choice of reading material.

The Chronicles of Narnia

The Lord of The Rings

And it makes me wonder…..

11 11 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

I haven’t actually watched any of the interview yet. Steeling myself for disgust. Especially since the interviewer is Greta. I saw part of the interview she did with todd, and it was definitely one of the 5 most pathetic interviews ever done. Greta: bubble bubble giggle handsome man snow machine bubble bubble. Todd: uh huh. uh huh.
Now she’s back interviewing the lyin’est witch in the west. Maybe I need a drink before I watch it.

11 11 2008
Diane

This to me just shows how incompetent Sarah Palin really is.

This is a women with a JOURNALISM DEGREE. AND she can’t deal with the press?

She can’t do an interview? IF she went to college and studied this for 4 years and this is how bad she is at it, then I do not want her any where near the WHite House.

She is dangerous because she is the type of person the cannot see what she is lacking, does not believe she is lacking in any areas and will seek to destroy/discredit the opposition for pointing out her faults.

God will provide: Sarah doesn’t have to do the work.

Has anybody checked to see that she has really graduated from college?
Usually you cannot go to 4 different colleges in 4 years and graduate !

11 11 2008
Bethsy in the Midwest

good morning, everyone. She is going to be on Larry King Live tomorrow night. If you go to his website (SOON, please!), you can submit a question to ask her. If enough people ask the tough questions, maybe he’ll actually ask one or more of them. Mine was about her attacking the President-elect about his “associations” when her husband was a long term member of the AIP. Please help!!

11 11 2008
kathy in Austin

Clue to Sarah:
The way you correct your record in politics is to hold a press conference.

11 11 2008
katek aka cd

Good morning all

Location: upstairs library
Attire: PJs
Beverage: double espresso

Checking the headlines this morning and I had to share this one with all:

“In first sit-down interview since defeat, she looked as if she was auditioning for role of Yoda in Star Wars Episode VII” from the Times of London online ed.

That list was not really a SP list, but I think a fairly reputable list of books people have tried banning over the years.
I’m sure she doesn’t know when Harry Potter was written, because unlike our President -elect she probably didn’t read them aloud to her kids.

11 11 2008
mk2000

I couldn’t get past the first two minutes of the interview. Did she really just use the word “infrastructure” when referring to the renovation of the mansion? What a dummy.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=infrastructure

11 11 2008
Bobg

Diane (03:45:16) :

My degree isn’t in Journalism but I would assume that somewhere in that course they communication and sentence structure. After listening to and reading Caribou Barbi’s speeches and interviews I wonder how she completed her course studies and got her degree. I must agree with those that say she is a fast learner. It doesn’t take me 3 hours to decipher a 3 minute interview of her’s anymore. I used to have to take every paragraph and try to decipher it. I must admit that sometimes I gave up and moved on to the next paragraph. As to her running for President in 2012: are there any programs set up to train wolves and moose how to get revenge?

11 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

My kids will want “Mudflats Orphan” shirts…

**gasp**

What kind of parents are you people?!? And your poor spouses!!!!

Hahahaha, I couldn’t resist. I wouldn’t throw stones, I don’t just play in the mud, I wallow in it.

11 11 2008
264 Crayons

Seriously I was really hoping the nightmare would be over on November 5th!

11 11 2008
264 Crayons

Whabs – My husband and kids have also been ignored the past two months. However my kids and I have had to endure being Football Widow & Football Orphans during and OUT of season! Thanks to fantasy football my husband continually tries to boot me off the computer to check his stats & recruitment letters…even if I JUST sat down! Grrrr….

11 11 2008
LibertyLover

Regarding information regarding my record that is now out there, much of it that was based on misinformation was a very very frustrating thing to have to go through when the record was never corrected. We would try to correct the record and too many in the media chose not to make those corrections or clarifications, and then I felt too often we were a bit defenseless in so many things that were reported wrongly that could have so easily been corrected just based on facts…

Yes, imagine how it must feel to try to correct the record of whether or not one might have “pal-ed” around with terrorists or if someone accused one of not being born in the United States (ie Hawaii) or had a preacher that was a little angry or if one had been accused of being a Muslim (not that there would have been anything wrong with that). Imagine if someone made others feel scared of you by your “associations.” Imagine how frustrated one might be if one was called a “socialist” or a “marxist” or an advocate of “infanticide” — yes, indeed, that certainly would be frustrating to not be able to correct the misinformation that the media (and your political opponents) kept saying about you.

11 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

I remember the Vets EVERYDAY, and not just on the designated day. One of my favorite stories I wrote ever is called Highway of Death. It is dark and depressing, but it came to me via a friend and after about 9 years, I had to write it.
We treat our Vets like disposable people. To all the Vets here, thank you for serving our country in a way I have never done. I agree Don, but I think we should remember them everyday and thank them when we meet them. Seriously, when I meet a Vet I always thank them

11 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka road apple palin

Pat: With all these latest interviews with Palin, I’ve noticed that she complains (and whines) loudly about how they’ve taken things out of context or twisted them around. But, wait – wasn’t that what she kept doing in all the speeches she gave, especially about Obama? Hmmm, live by your own rules, Sarah, or someone will call you on it.

I agree.

Palin wants the record to be set straight but she doesn’t hold up her end in providing the true story about herself. She can start with her medical records. And her acts as mayor of Wasilla. And the particulars of how that fancy house of hers was built. And her true relationship with both Ted Stevens and Bill Allen. How about her tax records? Did she, or did she not, declare the value of all those per diems? How about the value of the claimed free work done on that 3450 square foot house? Where are the invoices on that, Sarah? How about setting us straight on your true association(s) with the Alaska Independence Party, Sarah? How about your college days? Your fans wants access to Obama’s SAT scores and college transcripts; how about you provide yours? How about you finally come clean about what happened between you and the librarian, and how you tried to influence what was on the shelves?

I am tired of Sarah Palin. Really I am. But she’s like a bad accident: you know you shouldn’t look, but you just cannot help but rubberneck.

Oh, one other thing. Why does she want to set the media straight? Is this another of her control issues?

11 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka road apple palin

SMR (22:15:33) :

I bought the 1st Harry P in 1999 for my daughter. Anyone remember when Bible/Grifter Spice was mayor?
___________________

I have a copy of Sorceror’s Stone copyrighted in 1997.

Chamber of Secrets is copyrighted 1999.

11 11 2008
Sauerkraut aka road apple palin

Diane: Has anybody checked to see that she has really graduated from college?
Usually you cannot go to 4 different colleges in 4 years and graduate !

She went to 6 different schools in… 7years?

Just says there’s not a lot of value to a University of Idaho degree.

11 11 2008
Katlen

Alaska needs to decide who they are. Do you want this? Do you want to be afraid because Palin might run on 2012, so you better not speak the truth about her? Do you want to be muzzled by an anachronistic, passe, ethically-challenged Republican Party that is trying to save itself from drowning? The lower 48 has decided who it wants to be. Alaska is in the process of electing a convicted felon to the US Senate. The governor has serious ethics and moral issues and plans to continue in her unethical habits screwing the people of Alaska. Is that who Alaska wants to be?

11 11 2008
rachelbirds

You can’t put Palin
and constitutional high-
ground in same sentence.

http://www.thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com

11 11 2008
Bec -Yes We Did - in Illinois

Palin has a real problem including all bloggers in with “media”. And she also lumped all bloggers in with the Obama campaign. Remember when it was all the Obama campaign doing the dirty tricks and saying bad things about her admin and Troopergate.

Poor Sarah, she just doesn’t quite understand the world of the blog. She does carry around two Blackberrys. We know she emails. A lot. And illegally, no doubt with all that state business. But the Blog and how it now impacts the spread of information and ideas — and opinions. That is part of the media.

I guess we should all be getting our official press passes, according to Palin.

11 11 2008
Lemmy Caution

Did she spell the word “ridiculous” with the hideous, as-bad-as-nuculur misspelling, “rediculous,” or did the interviewer?

Along with rampant apostrophe abuse and the misuse of the word “literally,” “rediculous” is one of the more annoying signs of the collapse of American literary education.

11 11 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

OT: I was watching snippets of the interview where Piper said she missed a lot of school and it was hard for her to catch up. Scarah said she learned more being out campaigning with her than she would have in school.

WOW!!! All those days missed would have gotten me as a parent a huge fine!

11 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Like everyone, Palin has her strengths and her weaknesses. However, to govern effectively on the state or national level, one must put aside the desire to be autocratic, controlling, vengeful, and partisan. One must know that asking students to “pray for a gas pipeline” crosses the line between separation of church and state. One must have ethics and values that trump petty bigotry and hateful fear-mongering. One must be accountable for one’s own actions, statements, and beliefs. Will Palin have learned anything from her foray into national politics?? Not lookin’ good at the moment.

11 11 2008
mk2000

Hey, AKM. Sarah set put your clothes on and come out of the basement, fer cryin’ out loud!

11 11 2008
mk2000

oops, I meant “said”

11 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Shikago

Having no time to read all of the above comments. I pen this with regret as I am trying to just catch up with this the third part of AKM’s fascinating series on this demented Gov. I was like freaked when I got to the bottom of Pa (More to come on this interview…) Oh good grief😦 more…yikes, by then I will be caught up I hope…

I will now report back to the Bedtime in Alaska thread.

11 11 2008
timuid

Remember when she called Hilliary Clinton a whiner? Palin is the biggest whiner. After all the false things she said about Obama, after her mean spiritedness, she has the nerve to whine about the emails going around about her banning books. What a crybaby. wahhhhhhhh

11 11 2008
Olay Biscuit Barrel Icky Patang Palin

I think I’m going to publish a book called “Internet spelling for dummies”

Loose- slack, ( ie Hang Loose) Lose- to not succeed ( as in McCain/Palin will lose the election)

Rediculous- n/a Ridiculous-silly. As in this post.

just saying, not good to propagate mistakes- they become common usage t the point where the mistake becomes the norm. English does follow rules for the most part.

11 11 2008
MarkA

Surprise, surprise that a Republican would want to ban and/or censor books found at the library.

For a group who so readily espouse the notion that they and they alone are protecting the Constitution isn’t it rather hypocritical to ban and/or censor publications? Of course it is. But the Constitution has never been an impediment to the Republican right of this nation (just look at dear ol W.).

The idea of censorship fits in well with the entire Republican right platform: us versus them, extending to only we are right and everyone else is wrong. You know, “real” America versus everyone else.

11 11 2008
dyricci

RE: GaryB (23:51:04) :
“The one thing Palin, Rove and Bush all have in common is that they are sociopaths…”
——————-

Oh yeah… I completely agree that SP is a sociopath, and I discribed it so my post on Oct 26 here: http://dysmindseye.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/shes-a-sociopath-i-tell-ya/

11 11 2008
dyricci

Whoops. Too much italics. Sorry! Doh! Xp

12 11 2008
2010: Back In Your Box, Bitch « Mike Cane 2008

[…] Palin on Banning Books. So, you see, she didn’t ban books…she just tried to fire a librarian who wouldn’t censor them. If someone is offended at the prospect of book banning, the “real” story certainly won’t make them feel any better. […]

12 11 2008
John

So why can’t Wolf, Matt etc. ask, “the question was not if you banned books, which I understand you deny, you always say you never banned any books. The question is, did you ever make an attempt to ban books, did you ever tell the librarian you felt some books were inappropriate?” If she bullshits whip out a signed statement from someone, and then ask, “if you are telling me they are lying are you going to sue for defamation. Because they are telling the world you are lying.” And add, “Why would they lie, what is in it for them? You have incentive to lie.” She will go “why?” Then you lower the boom with the comment that she has incentive to not appear like a crazy right wing nut job. I mean, it would be so easy for a good journalist to nail her hide and we could be done with this crap. Also read the part where she is found to have breached the ethics law and then play the video of her claiming the investigation found she did nothing wrong. And then say, “where do you find the gaul to say you did nothing wrong. Have you no decency? You keep smiling like there is nothin’ goin’ on up there?” You know, in England they still have enough class to resign when they get caught. Seems like in Alaska you get caught and politicians put on a happy face and go into denial.

12 11 2008
thatgirlinnewyork

i am at the point where i cannot read any quote from this woman. she doesn’t know how to speak in non-circles, but maybe that’s her strategy–er, tactic. please make her go away–she makes W look like a rhodes scholar.

13 11 2008
Phil

“Banning books…that was a rediculous thing also that could so easily have been corrected by a reporter taking an extra step and not basing a report on gossip or speculation, but just lookin’ into the record…uh, the banning books issue, easily disproved when it was reported that I tried to ban Harry Potter, and it hadn’t even been written when I was the mayor.”

Harry Potter first book released in 1997. Palin Mayor from 1996 to 2002. Palin should check her facts before she speaks. Hopefully she will just stay up in the gfreat state of Alaska and we will not have to hear her mosuey voice again.




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