More on Alaska’s ‘Puzzling’ Election Results.

8 11 2008

The Anchorage Daily News has now gotten on the bandwagon casting a critical eye on Alaska’s “puzzling” voter turnout.

Did a huge chunk of Alaska voters really stay home for what was likely the most exciting election in a generation?

That’s what turnout numbers are suggesting, though absentee ballots are still arriving in the mail and, if coming from overseas, have until Nov. 19 to straggle in.

The reported turnout has prompted commentary in the progressive blogosphere questioning the validity of the results. And Anchorage pollster Ivan Moore, who usually works with Democrats, said Friday that “something smells fishy,” though he said it was premature to suggest that the conduct of the election itself was suspect.

With 81,000 uncounted absentee and questioned ballots, some of which will be disqualified, the total vote cast so far is 305,281 — 8,311 fewer than the last presidential election of 2004, which saw the largest turnout in Alaska history. That was the election where Alaska’s selection of George Bush for a second term was a foregone conclusion, though there was an unusually hot Senate race between Sen. Lisa Murkowski and former Gov. Tony Knowles.

Four years later, the lead-in for the 2008 election was extraordinary:

• Unheard of participation in the Democratic caucuses and strong Republican interest in theirs as well.

• A huge registration drive by Democrats and supporters of Barack Obama that enrolled thousands of first-time voters.

• Obama’s historic candidacy.

• Gov. Sarah Palin’s unprecedented bid for vice president as an Alaskan and a woman.

• A race in which Republican Ted Stevens, a 40-year Senate veteran, was facing voters as a recent convicted felon against Anchorage’s popular mayor, Mark Begich, a Democrat.

• A Congressional race in which Republican Don Young, in office almost as long as Stevens, was seeking re-election after a year in which he spent more than $1 million in legal fees defending against an FBI investigation of corruption involving the oil-field services company Veco Corp. Young’s opponent, Democrat Ethan Berkowitz, had been filmed on the state House floor in 2006 demanding an end to Veco’s corrupt practices weeks before the FBI investigation became known. The news clip played over and over as legislators and then Stevens were indicted and convicted, boosting Berkowitz’s status.

 

 

The full article, including reactions from pollsters, the Democratic and Republican parties, the Division of Elections, and progressive blogger, Shannyn Moore.

The fact that this is on the radar of all those mentioned above is a very good thing.  After the last eight years, it’s become more and more difficult for those ‘puzzling’ election anomalies to slip under the radar.  Mark Begich himself set up a legal team to monitor the vote counting to make sure every vote is counted.

So on it goes.  The election in Alaska is not over yet.

 

 

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8 11 2008
Redwood Man - Santa Cruz, CA

Go ADN !!!

8 11 2008
Northern Quilter AK

top ten!!!

Go Mark!!!!

8 11 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Yeah something is way off in those counts. I really admire Mr. Begich for setting up a legal team! Another good guy on top of things.

I am holding my breath for the REAL outcome.

8 11 2008
MonaLisa(inCT)

What might be done if it’s determined that the votes WERE tampered with? Are Alaskans willing to do a ‘do over’? (Has a do-over ever been done anywhere?)

8 11 2008
MonaLisa(inCT)

I’m practically an infant when it comes to all things political. The more I find out, the less I apparently ‘know’… AARRGGHH!! 🙂

8 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Shikago

OK, well after all that a fresh topic. OOohh ggeeeezzz. I hope Begich wins in the end. I hope he keeps the pressure on high. Don’t give em an inch Mark!

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Way to go Begich! A team is needed and is a good sign for the kind of Senator he will be. Fingers crossed.

8 11 2008
Hermann

What happens if Stevens wins and then gets kicked out of the Senate?

A special election to fill the vacancy. And, yes. Sarah Palin could run. AKM

8 11 2008
Road Runner

Where is the DNC’s lawyer team to watch over this result?

8 11 2008
yellowdoggranny

oooh i smell somthing …and it ain’t brenda

8 11 2008
Emjay

Sometimes I think I’m so naive. The amount of “cheating” going on during elections is shocking to me. We really do need election reform before the next presidential election. I am so happy that there was no question that Obama was the clear winner – no repeat of 2000 in Florida or 2004 in Ohio. Thank goodness!

8 11 2008
braveny

Good to hear Begich is on top of this with lawyers. Lighting another blue candle.

8 11 2008
eajphd Wolves Run Free

Change is worth fighting for. The fight can be quite uncomfortable but it makes the victory that much more enjoyable. In this case it insures that the eyes of the world are on the contest. This insures that even if a second post-Stevens election is required people o Alaska will probably think about what is in their best interest in difficult financial times. That is sure to inspire many more to vote Democrat.

8 11 2008
Nisperos

15?

8 11 2008
Bear Woman

A comparison needs to be made between the logs we all signed when we voted (whether early or at the polls on Tuesday) plus the absentee and question ballots. Take this total and compare it to the total number of votes for any one of the races on the ballot. Even compare it to the race that got the highest number of total votes. If the total number of persons who signed the logs plus returned absentee ballots and question ballots is not within 5% of the highest number of total votes for a race then it leads one to wonder where are the missing ballots…..

I voted early at the local Div. of Elections Office and was worried when I was told to put my ballot in a cloth “box”. Those early votes should have been scanned directly into the machines that are used on election day. It certainly would have been easy for anyone to go through the early ballots and decide which ones were scanned and counted!

I’m not saying it happened or would, just that if the Div. of Elections wants the confidence of the electorate there has to be a way to ensure that NO ballot tampering could occur.

It will be interesting to see if the Div. of Elections determines that anyone voted “twice” again. They are alleging that 26 people voted early or absentee and then showed up at the polls and voted again. If this did happen, then those persons need to be prosecuted and a news story needs to be run with their names published. The same should go for the election held on Nov. 4.

8 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

still hoping AK turns blue

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Bear Woman (11:16:44) :

A comparison needs to be made between the logs we all signed when we voted (whether early or at the polls on Tuesday) plus the absentee and question ballots. Take this total and compare it to the total number of votes for any one of the races on the ballot.
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YOU are so practical and smart! Gotta ask, are you a community organizer? Big smile. Or maybe a mom? Either, neither, or both—-practical and smart. come

8 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Good points, Bear Woman! I sure hope all of this evidence is being carefully preserved…

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Hmmm. Not sure how an extra word tagged onto the last post.

8 11 2008
GJ in ID

Good to hear Begich is on top of this with lawyers. Keeping my blue candle lite until the final result comes in and Ak is blue too!

8 11 2008
Nisperos

Wow! This is such a cliff hanger! Was it all the tension, stress, caffeine, alcoholic spirits, salt, sugar, adrenaline, late and early hours, etc. that has so many people telling me they are having weird dreams (and “me too” as well)? Is it the sea change going on? Are we also going to see a statistical rash of more death than average in the interval before and after the election, as well as a subsequent increased birth rate about 9 months later?

8 11 2008
teri

Hi to all!

I got the results of the state and federal elections (unofficial) because Im here in Washington I had to vote absentee. I find it hard to believe that the numbers would be less. When my daughter and I filled out our absentee ballots, we couldnt wait to get it in, and I explained to her how it was 4 years ago, ( I was living in Juneau at the time) well, I told her, even in the snow…we went out.

It seems unusual given all “THE FIRSTS” and it seems strange that the gap is still the same, with the republican so far ahead,,,when in the polls the Democrats were leading by so much.

Just to let you all know, there are alot of things going on, in which the media up there in Alaska is taken lightly and they portray them (or people tell me) that they are portrayed as one sided, favoring the corrupt politicians in office. When, the report came out clearing Palin, the media didnt report it the way she wanted, in fact they told facts as facts are “based on a report that Palin selected”.

I just read the ADN article on the troopergate, and this paper contradicts whats being reported down here. Even within their own media up there in Alaska.

What bothered people, when Sarah ran, was that she allowed her husband to use state offices. In this article it states she didnt know. When she first introduced herself, she said she and her husband were “close” and now she is claiming she had NO KNOWLEDGE of his actions. Well, thats all good and she can say what she wants, but then it went against her as one of the main reasons why NOBODY would vote for her. Take a look at the results!
Then she half heartedly apoligized for causing mccain even just one vote. But in actuality I think it was more like about 100 electoral votes.

At any rate, Sarah criticized our media reporters down here. Do you honestly think anyone would say their name, knowing she is in office and using her people to “Clear her name”. I believe the reporters down here! just from reading the article in the ADN, it all seems one sided to favor the republicans. But keep us informed, we are watching this one like a hawk!

8 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Shikago

I’m lighting the blue candle right now.

8 11 2008
JBDC

Is it odd that your esteemed governor hasn’t commented on the election in her state? Is she trying to steer clear of Teddy, or does she know something we don’t know?

8 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Shikago

teri (11:27:46) :
…now she is claiming she had NO KNOWLEDGE of his actions.
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If I was an Alaskan, and everybody knew this dude had free and clear access into the Alaskan Governors office, files, and everything, think about it what State secrets did this guy get into, was he working undercover for the AIP??? Did he photograph anything in the highest office of your state???

I think every ALASKAN should be calling the State Police and FBI on these people, if the Governor didn’t know, about her husband accessing her office, isn’t that breaking and entering? Same as Watergate?

8 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Shikago

Oh, maybe she wants him in jail so she can hook up with Dude II.

8 11 2008
dowl

Good afternoon Mudflatters,

Can someone tell me why we appear so arrogant that we send people to monitor other countries’ to monitor elections? (1) We want to predetermine the outcome; (2) We don’t recognize our own hypocracy; (3) other?

South Side Chicago — living in happyland for a few more days! Glad to see posters about the business of taking care of business.

Thanks today to
Suchanut_AK (08:03:00) : for the Salon ‘An open apology to boomers everywhere’ artical–a good read. HOPE LIVES!

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Compliments to all who attend this Mudflats picnic. I sure enjoy your company.

And the variety. A buffet all day every day. I can choose spicy or bland, crispy or squishy, bitter or sweet. My choice. Your choice. Heck, there’s something to appeal to every palate.

So many different dishes spread out on the tablecloth prepared by so many fine cooks. Sharing recipes I’d never think to make or get a chance to try otherwise. Thank you each and every one.

8 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Nice one Shikago… toddles off to light the blue candle again…

8 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

I am so glad that Begich got the legal thing going on. Somewhere,
Somehow, Someday, and yes by Someone a change must be made
in an antiquated voting system. I hope it is beginning in AK.

I am sure we all know this, but I will repeat it any—–who!!!
The only constant in life is change.
It can be viewed alone, in one of two ways,
either as a threat or an opportunity.
Sadly, a majority of American citizens,
view change as a threat. UNTIL NOW!
Thank You, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

8 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Umm… could someone in AK (or who is otherwise knowledgable) clarify something I read a few posts back… someone who voted in AK and then had to put their ballot in an envelope or bag marked Democrat, according to their affiliation. Is this right? Legal? Doesn’t it sort of contravene the right to be able to keep your vote secret and thus open elections up for fraud…

8 11 2008
Nisperos

Since this came up on another thread, here’s an update: http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=7ac5463d-2373-4a95-b951-f679507f412d

“MEMPHIS, TN – A former leader of the Ku Klux Klan says a white supremacist rally will still take place in Mississippi.

The “International Euro Conference” was scheduled to take place at the Whispering Woods Hotel and Conference Center in Olive Brach, Mississippi. DeSoto County officials issued a state of emergency to prepare for the event. Shortly after, the hotel cancelled the reservations for the conference. In a statement, officials said the hotel was, “committed to the safety and well being of our customers, guests and employees.”…” (continue reading at link)

8 11 2008
Nisperos

More from the article linked on my last post:

“…During the news conference held in East Memphis, Duke talked about President-Elect Barack Obama. He says under Obama’s leadership, the rights of European Americans will be in jeopardy…”

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Nisperos (11:52:29) :

Did Michelle Bachmann happen to issue a comment from the rally?

8 11 2008
SMR

I told my husband the other day that I would hand count the Alaska ballots for free, even if it took me days! My civic duty! There are roughly 300k ballots, how long could a recount possibly take???

8 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

The following is a link I should have added to my last post.
Chris Matthews’ view on CHANGE.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27543266#27543266

8 11 2008
Nisperos

At the linked article there are also 2 videos – sick

8 11 2008
Jerry Dahlke

Everyone can look at Nate Silver’s analysis on fivethirtyeight.com to get the kind of expert projection on how Begich can still win with the uncounted votes. Nate breaks it down in the kind of detailed manner which adheres to his reputation for spot on accuracy. Begich will win and the country will be spared Palin hysteria. The GOP is already looking at the bombastic Gingrich for 2012. In the meantime Palin needs a remedial course in grammar, syntax and basic speaking. And will we see Tina one more time on SNL dressed in a towel and lecturing on Alaska geography? Where are the pics of the First Dude in his silk boxers? And spray on tans. Who knew he was so metrosexual!

8 11 2008
Jerry Dahlke

make that Africa geography!

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

IMPORTED from the last thread:

Forty Watt Hussein (10:29:03) :
Now Oprah has officially extended an invitation to Palin to appear on her show anytime, I’m torn about whether or not I want to see that. One part of me never wants to see Palin again as long as I live. The other part is intrigued to see how Oprah would deal with her. Any thoughts?
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Grammy Jerk (10:37:27) :
I, for one, would like to see the end of Palin’s television appearances – this only gives her more free exposure and pretty soon, everyone is going to think, hey, she’s not so bad . . . and after awhile, folks will think it’s OK to talk like an idiot and quit trying to figure out what she said or discerning the b.s. from facts.
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The more Sarah appears on the national scene the better. Her original appeal was her newness. Being unknown allowed her to be presented as mythical—adept, capable, homey, folksey, smart, effective, energy-whiz, executive, and ad nauseum. The more she appears the less the adjectives are positive. The more she appears the less people want to see her. The more she appears the less likely a good campaign can spin who she really is.

8 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Nisperos (11:52:29)
———————-
(My Personal Opinion:)
David Dikes sucks Donkey Ducks.

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Duece2, was that David Duke?

Is he actually affiliated with the Repub party? Or did he run on a third party ticket?

8 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

dowl (11:43:52) :

Good afternoon Mudflatters,

Can someone tell me why we appear so arrogant that we send people to monitor other countries’ to monitor elections? (1) We want to predetermine the outcome; (2) We don’t recognize our own hypocracy; (3) other?
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Very good point. As a non-American, I am aware of certain “questions” that many Americans have regarding the 2000 and 2004 elections. And I continue to be gobsmacked at the monitoring of other countries elections by the US when it is abundantly clear that in your own backyard, you have a major problem. I hope Obama addresses this issue, and goes back to paper ballots.

8 11 2008
DrChill

Hermann (11:00:32) :

What happens if Stevens wins and then gets kicked out of the Senate?

A special election to fill the vacancy. And, yes. Sarah Palin could run. AKM
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But Sarah Palin has no legislative experience; none at all !

; )

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Oh yeah. Duke was elected in 1980s or 1990s in Louisiana as a Republican. state legislator. Nasty bit of Repub history. Lyndon Johnson signed the equal rights Civil Rights legislation and the Southern Dems became Repubs. Where they are still very very strong. Sad to say.

8 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

@DrChill,
Since when has that stopped her?

8 11 2008
polarbear

Re Teri’s post (11:27:46): “At any rate, Sarah criticized our media reporters down here.”

Teri’s point is important. Sarah Palin has been and will continue to be at war with the media. Palin cannot take press scrutiny. Her inability to work with the press is just one of her many problems in mounting another serious effort at national office. Inevitably, there will be recurring rumors and talk about her, but right now she is a female version of Fred Thompson, with less talent.

8 11 2008
karen marie

The fact that this is on the radar of all those mentioned above is a very good thing.

you said it, sister!

8 11 2008
teri

I forgot to mention and I decided just to post the link to ADN, it has a map of Alaskas breakdown on those who voted democrat and republican.

I for one, believe we need reform on elections. maybe breaking it down by precinct… and whoever wins a precinct will get the vote, that way ours would count. the map looks really pretty and almost all blue. (heavy sigh)

http://www.adn.com/election/

How does that sound to everyone?

8 11 2008
nswfm CA

Which type of voting machines does AK use? Are they made by Diebold’s successor company?

8 11 2008
anchorage_patriot

I am so glad this is being covered by our local newspaper. Everybody I’ve mentioned it to is in a state of shock. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON thinks the turnout was lighter this year than 4 years ago. The only possible explanation is that some people were sickened by Stevens and couldn’t go vote for a Democrat. There might even be some Republicans who were just plain embarrassed by Palin. But I find it hard to believe that there weren’t A LOT MORE idiots who were chomping at the bit to go vote for her. No way voter turnout was lower.

I have a terrible feeling about this and it is going to take quite a bit for me to lay aside my fears.

8 11 2008
More Light than Heat

AKM, is there anything we in the Outside can do to help Begich? It would seem that so long as the official count is going on, all he can do is wait, and try to ensure that the count is accurate.

I know Obama’s campaign gathered a team of lawyers to observe polls elsewhere to prevent a repeat of 2000 and 2004. Should we encourage them to journey to AK? Or would “assistance” from Outside be seen as further meddling, a la McCain’s “Truth Squad?”

8 11 2008
lemonfair

When the 60,000 absentee ballots are added back in the numbers don’t look quite so weird. I think it’s more suspicious that the ratio of Obama to McCain votes stayed the same no matter how many or which precincts reported.

8 11 2008
Bear Woman

@Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (11:21:37) and
the problem child (a jerk, also) (11:22:23) :

Thanks for the compliments….

Yes, mom and community organizer! Makes my husband cringe (at both) and my Repub mom shake her head and know that something caused me to be brain damaged…..

Don’t think the “evidence” is being preserved….. makes it too easy to actually check up on!

I’m just practical. If I see a problem I look for the root of things and then address those roots with an easy solution. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn’t!

I am an Alaskan who looks at the persons up for election, not their party (unless I truly don’t know which way to vote). My son has turned into a Democrat because of all the BS nationally and in Alaska. When he told me he voted a straight Dem ticket for all those on the ballot I told him good job and thanked him. He knows his grandmother and my spouse voted otherwise….

Oh well.

Last, but not least, I want to THANK the Obama campaign for setting up offices in Alaska and most of all the Alaska Democratic Party for all their hard work for Begich. Good work guys!

8 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (12:10:57) :
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According to the video, he was associated with the Democratic
Party, GO FIGURE. WHAT A FIASCO. Surely it is BS. I certainly
hope it ain’t true.

8 11 2008
DrChill

Irishgirl aka puck mule (12:15:03) :
@DrChill,
Since when has that stopped her?
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Just playing with her line Ha B.O. had no EXECUTIVE experience. Turning it around. – She has no LEGISLATIVE experience!
She pals around with separatists !

Palin for Wasilla dog catcher 2009 !
(No Sarah, just the ones with lipstick.)

By the way, I feel great ! I am now free from my on self-imposed boycott on using Sarah Palin’s name, using ” McCain’s choice” instead.

Now I can say – Sarah Palin is as dumb as a sack of moose droppings!
and
Brian is smarter than Sarah Palin.

This feels good!

John McWho ?

8 11 2008
DrChill

grrrr Spell check word substitution error !

“Just playing with her line THAT B.O. had no EXECUTIVE experience. ”

grrr

8 11 2008
BigPete

From Bill Maher

FAREWELL TO DOUCHEBAGS

Joe the plumber
Joe Lieberman
Ted Stevens
Rev Wright
Sarah Palin
Todd Palin
The ‘backwards B’ Girl
Karl Rove
George W Bush
Dick Cheney
OJ Simpson

IN MEMORIAM

8 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Denise,
Thats what I get for not watching the entire video prior to
reaching a conclusion. My Bad. Will correct in the future.

8 11 2008
Ennealogic

I will come to Alaska to hand count ballots! I’ll pay my own airfare and cab fare and I’ll even wear clothes I bought myself.

You know the page on change.gov where you can type in the issues that are important to you? The first one I put in was:

Insure that everyone who is eligible can vote — keep polls open enough hours of enough days so nobody can say, “I couldn’t make it.” And then insure that every vote is accurately counted and recorded. No more proprietary software, no more counting behind closed doors, no more handing open cardboard boxes of ballots to Joe the Plumbers who stuff them into non-descript vans to drive them to a central location. Guarantee the chain of custody remains unbroken. Votes are more valuable than gold or any other currency, and deserve to be driven in armored vans.

8 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

@DrChill,
I getcha! 🙂

8 11 2008
Ennealogic

Hi BigPete,

I have to take exception to someone Bill Maher is calling a douchebag.

The Dr. Reverend Wright is not a douchebag. He is a well-educated, oft-published, award-winning pastor who even counseled White House occupants. His mission and his ministry helped thousands of people in his community and beyond. Unfortunately, you can’t say that for anyone else Maher names. So, with that exception, I’ll go along with the rest list and say, “Good riddance indeed!”

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Yes, Ennealogic! Armored vans with video-cams, like squad cars have.

8 11 2008
Hudson

Where I’m from (New York), there is nothing illegal about voting absentee, and then later voting on the machine on election day.

Each Board of Elections is required to just check the list of absentees against the poll books of who voted, and discard the absentee ballot.

This is done for a practical reason. If someone’s plans change, and they can vote in person after all, they are required to do so.

So I don’t agree that those who cast both are criminals. I don’t condone fraud and O hope Begich wins, bit if your election commissioners are doing their jobs, this should not be an issue.

8 11 2008
austintx

On HuffPo now is the head story about all the BO haters NOW coming on board to support him……….Poodle and Bachman andLieberman are pictured…….a gallery of turds……..

8 11 2008
shoeho

I’m finally able to get back here post election. Sigh! WHAT a night!

I’m keeping my fingers crossed for Begnich. OY, the idea of Uncle Ted getting his butt kicked out of the Senate (I’m thinking the R’s are not going to go to bat for him) and Sarah running for his seat is too icky to contemplate.

I’m betting Roger Ailes is going to offer Caribou Barbie a WHOLE snowmachine load of $$$ to be the female Sean Hannity on Fixed Noise. She and the tribe can move to NYC and try and find anyone who agrees with them politically–reference to the bit Willy Geist did on Morning Joe trying to find a McCain supporter on the Upper East Side.

8 11 2008
Anthony Look

Is your legislature as bought and paid for as some of your high ranking politicians? Alaskans need to mandate an independent prosecutor; these crooks are running circles around the Alaskan constituency and laughing.
Lying racially sensitive Palin’s nomination has highlighted numerous incidents that need some explaining and investigating.
It’s mayhem and foolishness up there, it’s time to clean house.

8 11 2008
Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble

OT

I see where Tony Knowles, former governor of Alaska, is being floated as possible Secretary of the Interior. Good (great) choice, AKM?

8 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (11:53:46):

A bit of satire you might appreciate: http://www.apj.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1993&Itemid=2

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Deuce2 AL (12:31:49) :
Hey Deuce, I was agreeing with you. And fleshing out with a few facts from the ground….so to speak, as I grew up on the Mississippi coast near Louisianna.

David Duke was a scandal to many when elected. The KKK has many supporters, but many many many more detractors.

8 11 2008
End the End Times

AKM,

You’ve said it all so perfectly. Just what many of us have been thinking.

@ More Light than Heat and Ennealogic & others,
Thanks for thinking of us–Alaska needs all the help it can get.
Imagine Obama’s team is very busy–but it sure would be nice to have some
major help for our lil’ old state. We know what we know what we know.

8 11 2008
shoeho

Oh, and I forgot to add, from reading previous posts.

Caribou Barbie spent like $22K on cosmetics–and she bought MARY KAY? I mean, seriously, gang. She’s blowing the budget in NM, Saks, etc., and then buys MARY KAY?

Now, $22K I could understand for a two year supply of La Prairie, Sisley, Cle de Peau, SKll, some of that stuff is seriously expensive. But MARY KAY? I sure hope the rep is on her way to a pink car.

8 11 2008
anwr

What could be at stake in Alaska, and the nation with this election? A very important senate seat. Is National defense and big oil getting there way maybe? “Getting there way fast and in a totally controlled way”. Teds way maybe? Would their be any reason to rig an election in Alaskans oil and gas rich state, while the nation is distracted in such a changing political climate?

I don’t know how we total up are votes in Alaska, but a human is just a human. Some time greedy, sometimes loyal, sometimes fighting for unjust causes.

The political changes have been great in Alaska over the past few years.The political times are a changen, that is for sure!

I hope that we will start making are prisons empty with the, ” changes we can do”.

We can build more than prisons and carbon burning economies, in the green future that I dream about. That I taste, touch, and feel, that the new president elect will fulfill. In my dreams…….AKM this dream is for you.

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Hudson (12:46:42) :

Where I’m from (New York), there is nothing illegal about voting absentee, and then later voting on the machine on election day.
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In CA, you can bring the absentee ballot with you to the polls in order to be able to vote on election day. Otherwise, no.

8 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

I saw Nate Silver addressing this either on Larry King, or MSNBC sometime shortly after the election as well. Nate has pretty good clout with credibility and if it’s on his radar, I don’t think he’ll just let it pass either.

The numbers just don’t add up. It just does not seem feasible by any stretch of the imagination that there would be less of a turn out from 2004 in such an historic election, especially with SP in the Repug VP spot.

No sir….nosiree…

8 11 2008
shoeho

Re David Duke. I was in grad school in NO when he was running. I proudly had a “VOTE FOR THE CROOK, IT”S IMPORTANT” bumper sticker, even though I didn’t vote in LA.

8 11 2008
mickeymusing

Great article in the WSJ about the populist nonsense that whips voters into a frenzy supporting a hockey mom who can see Russia as a foreign policy guru and a plumber (unlicensed) as a financial sage:

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122610558004810243.html?mod=article-outset-box

Totally reasonable and well argued, right? Now read the comments from WSJ subscribers. Aye-yi-yi. There are apparently many in this country who will not be satisfied until we are a true idiocracy.

8 11 2008
Bev

Answer to David Duke and his ilk: http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/eahome

8 11 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

re. David Duke.

I’d heard he likes to be called Dr. Duke. What I didn’t know was he has a Ph.D. from a university in the Ukraine. His dissertation is titled (no surprises here) “Zionism as a Form of Ethnic Supremacism.” It is by all accounts a flagrantly anti-Semitic document.

http://www.davidduke.com/general/david-duke-achieves-doctorate-in-ukraine_394.html

Cloaking his hatred and bigotry in pseudo-intellectualism seems to be his stock-in-trade. “The EURO president (Duke) also said that there are thousands of groups in America that openly promote the interests of African Americans, Mexican Americans and Jewish Americans, so why shouldn’t Whites have the right to defend their rights and heritage.”

The man is dispicable.

8 11 2008
Bev

From The E/A for Obama statement:
“From our many backgrounds, we are unified behind a single goal: to work alongside Barack Obama to restore the promise of our nation – a nation that combines our many roots into collective strength — and give Americans of all backgrounds the opportunity to achieve the American Dream. Let us be true to that great American motto: E Pluribus Unum – out of many, one.”

Unfortunately, this is something that Duke and folks who think like him just don’t get – E Pluribus Unum. (of course they may find Latin to be a language from latin American a la Dan Quayle)

8 11 2008
Lana, KY

I particularly liked Shannyn Moore’s line: ” I would have to smoke more than Salmon to believe that Alaska, with Palin on the ballot, decided to sit this one out.”
Didn’t I read somewhere that Sarah used to partake in a little toke or two of cannabis ? How does that sit with the religious right ?

8 11 2008
Ennealogic

If Sarah really did buy that much Mary Kay, how much do you wanna bet she bought it from a Wasilla rep? *wink wink*

8 11 2008
Northern Exposure

There is a huge problem with the voter registration lists in Alaska. There are too many names on them of people who have died, people who have moved, people’s names appearing more than once in the same community, and people’s names appearing in more than one Alaskan community. This alone results in what is reported as only a 50% voter turnout that may actually be closer to 75% or some other number.

I also believe there are explanations for a somewhat lower voter turnout in this election in Alaska than in other Alaska elections. The Republicans were not that enthusiastic about their candidates. There was a disparity between the Obama campaign and the campaigns of other state Democratic candidates (partly due to Palin being added to the mix, partly due to some party leaders originally having supported Clinton), and there were communication challenges between urban and rural campaign organizers.

The high energy of the Obama supporters in the primary had to multiply itself eight-fold or more to win a general election in Alaska. We achieved maybe a five or six-fold extension, but that wasn’t quite enough.

That being said, there could still be discrepancies here and there that need to be investigated. I haven’t trusted Sean Parnell and the Alaska Department of Elections since the wording of the ballot initiatives in the most recent primary were seriously manipulated by this office (and not published in advance) in the state election pamphlet delivered to all residents prior to the election.

To have so much depend on absentee ballots which are delayed in counting reinforces concern. Early voting in Alaska could be better managed so that early votes received by the Department of Elections by election day are counted at that time and not delayed to be counted with the remaining absentee ballots coming in by mail.

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Nisperos (12:58:19) :
A bit of satire you might appreciate:
++++++++++++++

LOL
Thanks :-)))

8 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

A bit OT, but
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00f8pqv
I don’t know if this will work, but it’s the BBC’s News Quiz giving a funny/slightly cynical view of the US election results. Gives you an idea of how pleased the Brits are with Obama and how much Bush and Palin are figures of fun.

8 11 2008
Ennealogic

Looks like Ohio is having a fishy vote total too — which doesn’t really surprise me.

In 2004, vote percents for Bush and Kerry flipped in all precincts that used the Diebold machines. That is, polls showed 47-52 for Bush-Kerry, but the vote was reported as 52-47 Bush-Kerry. Wonder how that happened? This was of great interest to me, since I had travelled to Ohio on my own dime, taking the time off from work, to GOTV during the last week before the election. I canvassed neighborhoods on foot, I counted signs, I talked to a lot of people, I phoned a lot of people… and I just found the Ohio results very hard to believe.

We must make sure that our new Obama administration informs Congress that getting the vote right — in a country that touts democracy as its highest ideal — is codified in our laws, vigorously monitored, and enforced.

8 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

mickeymusing (13:12:08) :
Thanks for posting that article. It was informative!

8 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

Hopefully it is safe to post again…
Another good blog .
Thanks

8 11 2008
Bobg

Is it possible for an ordinary citizen to request an investigation into the election in Alaska?

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Whabs, Seattle, WA. (13:36:33) :

Hopefully it is safe to post again…
Another good blog .
Thanks
+++++++++++++++++

Hey Whabs! Glad to “see” you. I loves the variety at the Mudflats Table. Bring it on.

8 11 2008
Nisperos

@ mickeymusing (13:12:08) :

Thanks you for the link. Very interesting article. I remember a couple of my college profs; one warned that those who thought that their position was the same as the profs usually got poorer grades on their paper for being lazy in their thinking and supporting of their positions, another prof, now OMG almost 30 years ago,warned of the coming conservative era as inevitable, we tended to either disbelieve or if he got our attention, we wanted to know what were the signs and how long it would last…

@ Bev (13:14:58) :

Good link. Thanks.

8 11 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

@ mickeymusing (13:12:08) :

Thanks for link to WSJ article.

What I love about many of the comments is that they underscore the veracity of the article, as in, how dare you say we conservatives hate intellectual liberal elites you snobbish, arrogant, intellectual elite!

8 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

@Whabs,
I just read that thread this morning.
I really dislike when other posters try to limit what is being discussed. It is not fair on other posters. And it certainly wasn’t an attack on the Palin children – it was more that people were and are looking out for those poor children.

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca
8 11 2008
Northern Exposure

I agree there is much more confidence with paper ballots being optically scanned than with the Diebold voting machines. Alaska should get rid of the machines where they occur and replace them with the paper ballot/optical scanner system. The paper ballot/opitical scanner system works smoothly and provides a paper ballot back-up if questions arise.

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Excuse the angry tone, but some things are worth hissing over.

I do think that Diebold, with all its spawn, must be investigated inside and out, human and tech, software and hardware, history and internal memos and shady associations and tax breaks and all.
There’s something rotten in Diebold. It has to be brought to light.
Then sued and prosecuted to kingdom come.
IMHO.
There. Peace Out.

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

2007 article addressing Alaska having same flawed Diebold Voting Machines discredited by California study. Among other things, they can be hacked by a single individual without evidence.

http://www.peninsulaclarion.com/stories/091407/news_3212.shtml

8 11 2008
Chautauqua

I have to think that turnout would have been through the roof!

How many new voters were added to the rolls?

If anything, I think the GOP would had rolled out in droves between defending their “meritocracy” and defeating Obama. Maybe some had some personal insight into reasons not to vote for Palin-but I feel they would have seen her through the election. Even now, many GOPers seem happy about the selection (which I can’t explain). Even my Mom would LOVE to see her run in 2012. McCain strikes me as someone who would strongly appeal to Alaskan republicans and independents.

These election numbers simply do not add up.

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Hi ya mudpups..

I had this odd thought.. While it seems there are really strange and unexplainable issues regarding the votes in AK, lets take a strange and bizarre trip with me..

Everyone put on your astral plane glasses, take the magic pill and move forward to The Day..

This day is Sarah Palin’s Senate Swearing In Ceremony.

The Junior Senator from Alaska moves into her basement office, with enough room for Meg and a photocopier. Because of so many important issues, there is no ‘on the job training’ as Barbie was proclaiming, oh, about 10,000 times about a certain new President.

Now, she finds herself having to vote on an important economy bill. This is to allow annexing the interest on certain US assets being devalued in a form to allow the interest to be excluded during 1q of 2009 with extension by voice vote thru 2q. Asset qualification will be on a sectional basis for uniform control.

Barbie sits, and reads it. Once, twice, three times the lady has no clue. She doesn’t even know the phone numbers of anyone in Congress yet, so she calls Teddy. Sorry, Teddy’s not available, and no calls in Federal Prison. Hmm, she calls Don, and he hangs up on her. She has no idea, and the vote’s in 15 minutes. Not appearing for her first vote would not be good, especially with 134 members of the media camped outside her office.

So she does what any smart junior senator would do.. She crawls under her desk, pulls the chair back in place and sits and cries. Realizing that won’t work, she gets up, and heads off to vote.

As an especially fun treat, she’s called on, by a senior senator, to explain the Repub position.

Barbie: I reviewed the bill and realize it’s just another example of our wonderful and blessed congress providing the positive examples of how this great nation operates and as a first year Senator, I am feeling especially lucky to be able to vote on this bill as the first one of my career.

Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, could you please give us the GOP position?

Barbie: Yes of course, but obviously, this is another of those congressional gotcha moments. I, for one will not claim to be a Diva, but I will not simply provide answers on unknown bills when they’re submitted anonymously.

Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, this bill was introduced by John McCain.

Barbie: Who??

Sen Senator: Mrs Palin, can you or can’t you answer the question?

Barbie: I respectfully would prefer to be able to confer with my aides on this matter before explaining it more completely and as you know, I didn’t buy those clothes while on the campaign, but i kept these red Jimmy Choos, aren’t they wonderful?

Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, please, can you address the bill?

Barbie: You gotcha senators are really upsetting. I refuse to play this silly games.

She leaves the Great Hall, walks outside, and is never seen in public again.

8 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

HAhaHAhaHA
Look what I found in the Wasilla MatSu Frontiersman

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2006/04/09/news/opinion/opinion2.txt

8 11 2008
austintx

Is the person in charge of vote count an appointee of the current Governor ?? ……….related to Kathleen Harris by chance??……..just sayin……..

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I had this odd thought.. While it seems there are really strange and unexplainable issues regarding the votes in AK, lets take a strange and bizarre trip with me..

Everyone put on your astral plane glasses, take the magic pill and move forward to The Day..

This day is Sarah Palin’s Senate Swearing In Ceremony.

The Junior Senator from Alaska moves into her basement office, with enough room for Meg and a photocopier. Because of so many important issues, there is no ‘on the job training’ as Barbie was proclaiming, oh, about 10,000 times about a certain new President.

Now, she finds herself having to vote on an important economy bill. This is to allow annexing the interest on certain US assets being devalued in a form to allow the interest to be excluded during 1q of 2009 with extension by voice vote thru 2q. Asset qualification will be on a sectional basis for uniform control.

Barbie sits, and reads it. Once, twice, three times the lady has no clue. She doesn’t even know the phone numbers of anyone in Congress yet, so she calls Teddy. Sorry, Teddy’s not available, and no calls in Federal Prison. Hmm, she calls Don, and he hangs up on her. She has no idea, and the vote’s in 15 minutes. Not appearing for her first vote would not be good, especially with 134 members of the media camped outside her office.

So she does what any smart junior senator would do.. She crawls under her desk, pulls the chair back in place and sits and cries. Realizing that won’t work, she gets up, and heads off to vote.

As an especially fun treat, she’s called on, by a senior senator, to explain the Repub position.

Barbie: I reviewed the bill and realize it’s just another example of our wonderful and blessed congress providing the positive examples of how this great nation operates and as a first year Senator, I am feeling especially lucky to be able to vote on this bill as the first one of my career.

Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, could you please give us the GOP position?

Barbie: Yes of course, but obviously, this is another of those congressional gotcha moments. I, for one will not claim to be a Diva, but I will not simply provide answers on unknown bills when they’re submitted anonymously.

Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, this bill was introduced by John McCain.

Barbie: Who??

Sen Senator: Mrs Palin, can you or can’t you answer the question?

Barbie: I respectfully would prefer to be able to confer with my aides on this matter before explaining it more completely and as you know, I didn’t buy those clothes while on the campaign, but i kept these red Jimmy Choos, aren’t they wonderful?

Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, please, can you address the bill?

Barbie: You gotcha senators are really upsetting. I refuse to play this silly games.

She leaves the Great Hall, walks outside, and is never seen in public again.

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

It just isn’t good enough for Diebold machines to be discredited and ‘phased out.’ If these anomalies are found to have been deliberate, massive election fraud, something massively punitive has to occur. It’s not a matter of a few bugs in the system. I suspect the system is designed to be corrupt, hence that ‘Proprietary’ crap. It seems to me that neither that company nor any of its principles should ever be allowed close to government contracts again.

>whew< Honestly, I’m usually mild tempered sort.

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I must have angered the spam gods again. my posts are all poofing into outerspace.. how depressing.

And my last post was purty funny.. haha

8 11 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

Excuse this aside but I need to ask Irishgirl aka puck mule a question.

Was it you who made the joke that when Hamid Karzai told Sarah that his baby’s name meant “light of the house”, it gave her the idea that Bristol’s and Levi’s baby should be called Forty Watt Johnston?

It made me laugh more than once, which is why I rechristened myself Forty Watt when another Rust Mustang showed up.

The thing is I’m getting a bit weary of being both associated with Sarah Palin AND having a name that designates me not the brightest bulb on the porch. I know, it’s a whole ego problem. However, before I change my name I would like to give proper credit.

8 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Nebraska just posted one electoral vote for Barack Obama. That brings the Electoral Vote total to 365. Way to go, Nebraska.

Glad the results didn’t hinge on Missouri this year.

8 11 2008
halcrow

To the victors belong the spoils.

I grew up in Nova Scotia in the late 50s (well, I became sentient, then, lol), and I can recall the repositionings and reassignings of jobs that went along with a change in government, even as far down the ladder as provincial highway maintenance workers..good jobs were scarce, but hardly secure, as elections had to come at least every four years.

I’m sure that those practices were rooted out in English-speaking Canada by 1960 (it likely carried on in backward Quebec until the 80s or 90’s), so hand-in-hand with the cleansing of the political reward system there had to have been a concerted effort to remove the opportunity for election abuse to occur.

We seem to have done well in cleaning up the counting of votes in our elections in Canada, and we vote by way of paper ballots marked with a pencil. I don’t know what system they use in the UK, Ireland, Australia and the rest of the democratic ex-Commonwealth countries, but it’s likely also the tried-and-true paper ballot system.

For the last eight years, there has been intense speculation that the US election system has been manipulated and that the electronic machines are inaccurate and open to abuse. Yet, here in 2008 and on this wonderful blog, there are very intelligent people reading about and commenting upon numbers and trends which just can’t add up.

Where else in first-world developed countries do you hear of hordes of lawyers descending upon counting and voting stations to ensure that the votes of the people have been entered into the voting system and then correctly tabulated?

Nowhere else, right? Americans, you have to take the interpretation of the vote out of the hands of those who wish to subvert it solely for personal benefit.

It’s tough enough for all of us to get decent, honest people to run for elected public office; we do them (and all of us) a great disservice if we allow the counting system to be subverted to deny them that which they have honestly won (and with our votes, no less).

8 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Alaskan Republicans liked Mitt Romney, not John McCain.

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Marty, I’m sure your post is just waiting in the cue, and will show up above, in a little while. That’s what happens sometimes.

8 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Well said Halcrow! I have only ever voted using paper and pencil…

Scrimshaw… love your website.

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

scrim so i used to think.. i’ve checked other times and they don’t ever appear. i think mostly, someone goes thru the spam and just deletes them.. posts that are hours or more old usually don’t have enough interest for akm or others to read them all looking for legit posts..

odd that some posts work and others don’t.. can’t figure it out..!

8 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Denise, good find, that article from the Frontiersman.

8 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

@mickeymusing (13:12:08) :

I never allow myself to read the comments in the WSJ and I would bet the commenters don’t read the WSJ. Maybe they believe they are a better class of troll.

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Marty, you can email AKM or Snoskered, and ask.
I think it’s akmuckraker (at) yahoo (dot) com

8 11 2008
Nisperos

“I know that I know that I know” that those election results are screwy.

Epistemology is the branch of philosophy which deals with knowledge and how what we know. However, in evangelical circles the phrase is like saying I’m certain of my certainty of what I believe in, as in: “I know that I know that I know that my redeemer lives”. Hence, Palin’s usage of this phrase was quite odd. Whatever happened to giving to God what is God’s and to Caesar what is Caesar’s? I guess it’s a no brainer that she thinks her political beliefs are the same as God’s, and that she thinks what she says should be taken as gospel and be considered beyond the shadow of a doubt. Signal language to a jury of her true believers?

8 11 2008
halcrow

Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com (14:23:57) :

scrim so i used to think.. i’ve checked other times and they don’t ever appear. i think mostly, someone goes thru the spam and just deletes them.. posts that are hours or more old usually don’t have enough interest for akm or others to read them all looking for legit posts..

odd that some posts work and others don’t.. can’t figure it out..!

If the post is long, or if it contains cut-and-paste comment from another source or URLs, I find it safer to put in onto a word document first and then cut and paste it over to here and then post it.

It may be more time consuming, but it’s better than having the comment disappear into the miasma of the Alaskan Internet.

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

EV now 365! Omaha for Obama! Sounds so right, somehow.

When AKM pulls posts out of the spam cue, they go up with their original time stamps, I think. No matter how old they are. Is that right?

8 11 2008
Nisperos

should have said “how we know what we know”

Now i’m into not making sense

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

halcrow my stories are never cut and pasted.. i type them with my own 7 fingers.. ! 🙂 I am not sure why they poof..

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Thank you, Brit Abroad…

Thought you might fancy a viking ship.

8 11 2008
austintx

New Law – Mandatory 10 yr. Federal Prison Sentence for any one who attempts or does affect the outcome of ANY election !This would include but not be limited to the manufacturer of machines – all the way to the person who plugs it in. EVERY person must sign off that comes in contact with the machine.I went to my ATM today and in seconds got a receipt with my money. Since I was not at my bank……..I was charged 2 dollars for the transaction. I believe that every person reading this would gleefully pay the same for a copy of their vote. Diebold makes the majority of ATM machines….like the one I used today.Who owns that company? They are totally jerking us off!!

8 11 2008
halcrow

@ marty

I’m not suggesting that they are cut&pastes. I’m suggesting that “if” posts do contain that or URLs; however, it seems that longish posts composed as a word document and then cut and pasted over here as a comment seem not to vanish as frequently as others which were composed in the comment box.

8 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7717578.stm

“For the US political junkies out there, the BBC’s Nick Bryant provides “Ten quick and easy lessons” from this break-the-rules election.”

8 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

@Forty Watt Hussein,
No, I’d like to take the credit.
But I did laugh at your name.
Best name on mudflats. 🙂

8 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Ennealogic (13:32:28) :

Very concerning about Ohio

@ Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (14:04:48) :

Brave of Chuck Legge to write this. I hope nothing happens to him.

8 11 2008
halcrow

@ austintx (14:46:33)

I don’t know which company Thom Hartmann refers to, but this might be pertinent.
Published on Friday, January 31, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
“If You Want To Win An Election, Just Control The Voting Machines”
by Thom Hartmann

…The respected Washington, DC publication The Hill (www.thehill.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx) has confirmed that former conservative radio talk-show host and now Republican U.S. Senator Chuck Hagel was the head of, and continues to own part interest in, the company that owns the company that installed, programmed, and largely ran the voting machines that were used by most of the citizens of Nebraska.
…What Hagel’s website fails to disclose is that about 80 percent of those votes were counted by computer-controlled voting machines put in place by the company affiliated with Hagel. Built by that company. Programmed by that company.

…Bev Harris of http://www.talion.com and http://www.blackboxvoting.org has looked into the situation in depth and thinks Matulka may be on to something. The company tied to Hagel even threatened her with legal action when she went public about his company having built the machines that counted his landslide votes. (Her response was to put the law firm’s threat letter on her website and send a press release to 4000 editors, inviting them to check it out.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm
Thom Hartmann is the author of “Unequal Protection: The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights.” http://www.unequalprotection.com This article is copyright by Thom Hartmann, but permission is granted for reprint in print, email, or web media so long as this credit is attached.

8 11 2008
Nisperos

What is it with Alaska and Beauty Pageant Contestants? Back in 2005, then Lt. Governor Loren Leman announced the appointment of a Republican Party officer (former chair of the Young Republicans of Alaska), Whitney Brewster, to head the state’s Division of Elections. Now that the Lt. Governor is Sean Parnell, Whitney Brewster is still with the state of Alaska, but occupies the role of Director of the Division of Motor Vehicles. Before we go any further, might as well click on her picture and bio at an official state web page (bio has not been updated for the current administration): http://www.dced.state.ak.us/boston/brewster_bio.htm

“Whitney Brewster is the reigning Mrs. Alaska-America. She is Deputy Chief of Staff for Lieutenant Governor Loren Leman & Director of his Anchorage office. Prior to this position, she worked for the Alaska State Legislature. Whitney received her Bachelors degree in Psychology from Brigham Young University and earned her Masters in Public Administration from the University of Alaska Anchorage. Whitney is Chairman of Young Republicans-Alaska and has been recognized as one of the State’s Top 40 Under Forty by the Anchorage Journal and Anchorage Chamber of Commerce. Whitney lives in Eagle River with her husband, David, and two-year-old daughter, ElleMarie.”

8 11 2008
Nisperos

From the archives of the Juneau Empire (looks like 10/13/05): http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/101305/sta_20051013007.shtml

Elections chief resigns; Leman aide gets post

JUNEAU – Alaska Division of Elections director Laura Glaiser will resign at the end of the month, and she will be replaced by Lt. Gov. Loren Leman’s deputy chief of staff.

Leman announced Wednesday that Whitney Brewster will replace Glaiser on Nov. 1. Brewster has worked for Leman since 2003, and one of her jobs was liaison to the Division of Elections.

Glaiser has been the state’s elections chief since December 2002. Last year, she oversaw the recount of the U.S. Senate race between Republican incumbent Lisa Murkowski and Democrat Tony Knowles, as well as a court-ordered reprint of 517,000 ballots for that election.

Glaiser said she plans to move to Illinois by the end of the year. She said the decision to resign was her own and that she wanted to make a change in her life.

She said the announcement was timed so that her successor will be in place and prepared for the 2006 general election.

“If anything spurred the decision, it was to make sure the division would have a director to go into the election year,” she said…

8 11 2008
SC Sista M Cluckhead

Caribou Barbie spent like $22K on cosmetics–and she bought MARY KAY? I mean, seriously, gang. She’s blowing the budget in NM, Saks, etc., and then buys MARY KAY?

No doubt the Mary Kay salesperson is one of those close friends who reap so many benefits from Sarah’s frugal ways…

8 11 2008
Nisperos

Why is all the past history interesting?

Well, here’s the story of the questionable vote counts for the 2004 elections involving Diebold voting machines (which Brewster didn’t preside over, but also could not answer questions on when the questions were still being raised in 2006): http://www.ejfi.org/Voting/Voting-123.htm (Diebold is now Premier Election Solutions Inc or PESI)

Reference on the controversy about these machines for review: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/48508.html (1/21/03) AND http://www.newsweek.com/id/154556/page/1 (8/21/08). Both are worth a read.

OK, Brewster is a bit of a distraction, but voting machines were used in the 2006 governor’s race which Palin won.

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Lets see if this works.. cut and pasted 🙂

I had this odd thought.. While it seems there are really strange and unexplainable issues regarding the votes in AK, lets take a strange and bizarre trip with me..
Everyone put on your astral plane glasses, take the magic pill and move forward to The Day..
This day is Sarah Palin’s Senate Swearing In Ceremony.
The Junior Senator from Alaska moves into her basement office, with enough room for Meg and a photocopier. Because of so many important issues, there is no ‘on the job training’ as Barbie was proclaiming, oh, about 10,000 times about a certain new President.
Now, she finds herself having to vote on an important economy bill. This is to allow annexing the interest on certain US assets being devalued in a form to allow the interest to be excluded during 1q of 2009 with extension by voice vote thru 2q. Asset qualification will be on a sectional basis for uniform control.
Barbie sits, and reads it. Once, twice, three times the lady has no clue. She doesn’t even know the phone numbers of anyone in Congress yet, so she calls Teddy. Sorry, Teddy’s not available, and no calls in Federal Prison. Hmm, she calls Don, and he hangs up on her. She has no idea, and the vote’s in 15 minutes. Not appearing for her first vote would not be good, especially with 134 members of the media camped outside her office.
So she does what any smart junior senator would do.. She crawls under her desk, pulls the chair back in place and sits and cries. Realizing that won’t work, she gets up, and heads off to vote.
As an especially fun treat, she’s called on, by a senior senator, to explain the Repub position.
Barbie: I reviewed the bill and realize it’s just another example of our wonderful and blessed congress providing the positive examples of how this great nation operates and as a first year Senator, I am feeling especially lucky to be able to vote on this bill as the first one of my career.
Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, could you please give us the GOP position?
Barbie: Yes of course, but obviously, this is another of those congressional gotcha moments. I, for one will not claim to be a Diva, but I will not simply provide answers on unknown bills when they’re submitted anonymously.
Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, this bill was introduced by John McCain.
Barbie: Who??
Sen Senator: Mrs Palin, can you or can’t you answer the question?
Barbie: I respectfully would prefer to be able to confer with my aides on this matter before explaining it more completely and as you know, I didn’t buy those clothes while on the campaign, but i kept these red Jimmy Choos, aren’t they wonderful?
Sen Senator: Mrs. Palin, please, can you address the bill?
Barbie: You gotcha senators are really upsetting. I refuse to play this silly games.
She leaves the Great Hall, walks outside, and is never seen in public again.

8 11 2008
Nisperos

Here’s a bit more:

Division of Elections Refuses To Release 2006 Election Records. By Alaska Democratic Party Press Release, November 28, 2006, VoteTrustUSA: http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2084&Itemid=113

The Alaska Division of Elections is violating the public records law and should immediately release copies of the electronic records of the 2006 election results so they can be examined before the election is certified, Alaska Democratic Party Chair Jake Metcalfe said today.

“Once again, the Division of Elections is flaunting the law with excuses and delays by refusing to release critical public records,” Metcalfe said. “Judge Joannides has already ordered them to make copies of each version of the 2006 GEMS database, so it is no burden on them to just release those copies that they are already making. Why won’t they release the records and give the public access to them as they are required by law to do?” Metcalfe said.

On Nov. 7, Anchorage Superior Court Judge Stephanie Joannides ordered the Division of Elections to preserve backup copies of the state’s 2006 electronic computer database and subsequent tallies of the election results. The Division of Elections had refused to make backup copies of the Diebold computer GEMS database in response to a request from the Alaska Democratic Party, which then sought an emergency court order requiring that copies be preserved of these election records. The Judge agreed with the Democratic Party and issued a temporary restraining order stating that the Division must make backup electronic copies on disk of the GEMS database as it existed on election night and again at the conclusion of each day in which the Division of Elections entered votes manually into the system.

The law says that public records must be produced “as soon as practicable, but not later than the 10th working day” following receipt of the request. Democrats requested the database on Oct. 30 and, through its counsel David Shoup, again on Nov. 3. In a response dated Nov. 27, Division of Elections Director Whitney Brewster told Shoup she would not respond to the Democrats’ records request until Dec. 6, two days after the new Governor is sworn into office on Dec. 4…

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

grumble.. cut and paste still vanished into that bin of posts never to be seen.. !

8 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Barbie bought 540 lbs of mary kay? somehow, it will come out she bought it from someone who gives her a kickback.

8 11 2008
Nisperos

Did Washington waste millions on faulty voting machines? By Greg Gordon, McClatchy Newspapers, 8/15/08: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/48508.html

Warning on voting machines reveals oversight failure. By Greg Gordon, McClatchy Newspapers, 8/24/08: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/50485.html

8 11 2008
Forty Watt

@ Irishgirl aka puck mule (14:51:13) :

Thanks for accepting my shameless plagiarism. 🙂

So–I will resist the temptation to bump myself up a few watts and keep my name. I will drop the Hussein, however, because we have now made that a wholly acceptable and quite beautiful.

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Halcrow, thanks. I am sure that is the article I remember reading a few years back. And why I just know that I know that…

And Nisperos, I really like the way you work. 🙂

8 11 2008
Kit (Keep It Trill)

The GOP stole Alaska. They got plans for Sarah in 2012. You just watch.

8 11 2008
halcrow

@ Nisperos

Thank you for your posts and the links. It would seem that there is a need for an official inquiry.

It likely was an unpopular idea a few years ago, but now that those who may have benefitted from flawed tubulations are fewer in number, then more-open minds might carry the day.

“There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Nisperos, on Greg Gordon
Oh, Washington didn’t ‘waste’ millions. They knew *exactly* what they were getting, and surely considered it a bargain.

Kinda hurts, waking up after years of heartsick apathy.

8 11 2008
austintx

WOW – sounds like a lawsuit needs to be filed to help these turds to remember that they work for the people…..come on Poodle……..”open and transparent” my ass !!!

8 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

For your entertainment (between bringing down convicTed and researching Diebold).
http://punditkitchen.com/

8 11 2008
NMJ

The fact that this is on the radar of all those mentioned above is a very good thing. After the last eight years, it’s become more and more difficult for those ‘puzzling’ election anomalies to slip under the radar. Mark Begich himself set up a legal team to monitor the vote counting to make sure every vote is counted.

Thanks for staying on top of this, AKM. If the missing ballots ever show up, even if after the deadline, I think it’s mandatory that they be counted and tabulated with the rest, so it’s known definitively how it skewed the official total.

8 11 2008
InJuneau

NEW THREAD!

8 11 2008
NMJ

lemonfair (12:26:14) : When the 60,000 absentee ballots are added back in the numbers don’t look quite so weird. I think it’s more suspicious that the ratio of Obama to McCain votes stayed the same no matter how many or which precincts reported.

It’s not just the numbers, lemonfair. I watched the progression of the Alaska count as it came in, and the proportion of McCain vs Obama started and stayed at precisely 2:1, no matter what precinct was counted. That’s not just weird, that’s impossible.

I think one of the first things Alaskans need to change after all the dust settles, is changing the Attorney General to an elected office, not an appointee by the Governor.

8 11 2008
NMJ

Oops, sorry, lemonfair, I meant to answer someone else! You and I think the same.

8 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

How Voters Vote – or Fail to Vote

“Minnesota will be conducting a hand recount of millions of paper ballots later this month to determine the winner of the U.S. Senate race between Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and Democratic challenger, and former Saturday Night Live comedian, Al Franken.

Officials are still counting absentee and provisional ballots and, as they do so, Coleman’s lead over Franken narrows each day. Wednesday I reported the margin was 477 votes; it’s now down to 238.

The paper ballots are currently being counted with M-100 optical-scan machines made by Election Systems & Software, which were the focus of a story I published Monday about allegations that the machines counted votes inaccurately in Michigan. A Michigan election official claimed in a letter to federal officials that each time the same ballots were scanned through machines, the machines recorded the votes differently.

When Minnesota officials conduct their recount, the ballots will be counted by hand and discrepancies with the machine-counted vote tallies will inevitably occur. When they do, it won’t necessarily mean there was a problem with the machines. Why? Because voters often fail to follow directions on ballots and mark them in ways the machines don’t read. For example, when instructions tell them to fill in an oval or connect a broken arrow next to a candidate’s name, some voters invariably circle the candidate’s name instead or place an “x” or check mark next to it (see image above). During a recent recount in Palm Beach County, a Florida official told Threat Level they found one ballot in which the voter had kissed his/her candidate’s name. No word on the brand of lipstick the voter wore, but it was a patriotic red.

When hand recounts are done, officials — with representatives of both candidates observing — examine such ballots to see if they can determine the voter’s intent. If they can, the voter’s vote will be counted, even though the ballot was filled out incorrectly.”

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/

8 11 2008
jolpaj

Where can we find some evidence of the timing of election returns from different districts? The depressed turnout is not especially probative in light of the early concession, and since both Republican candidates were under investigation or conviction, it is easy to understand why the polls were wrong. Was it here that I read that the Presidential margin never wavered by more than .3%? That seems extremely fishy, but I dont know what source can verify the claim. Once that is done, the fluctuations in election margins can be statistically compared to other states and past Alaskan elections.

Anyone considering a FOIA?

8 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Thanks Aussie… the voter had kissed the candidate’s name.
Voter’s intent was clear, vote counted. That’s my America.

8 11 2008
katek formerly chin duststrap

Halcrow,
yes, I have never understood all the different systems of voting here. I always comment that making an X beside the name in pencil worked well for me in Canada.

Not sure why there isn’t an equivalent to Elections Canada here, either. The Obama campaign called me to register.

And in Britain do all the candidates really wait together in the same place to hear the vote count, or is that just in BBC dramas?

8 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

If I am running numbers at work I am in the habit of listening to talk radio, since I am running alot of calculations lately I listen alot. I may not be remembering this correctly but I believe one of these people that was up on voter fraud said Alaska uses Diebold machines, if this is so the lawyers need to get some advice from a computer progrmmer. Diebold machines have in the past been found to have programming that simply doesn’t record certain ballots. They will not allow anyone but their own workers to even look at the program but this is what happened in Ohio in 2004. The owner of the company is considered to be an extreme right wing republican.
Having said this I truly don’t believe that with all the information and concern that was out there and everybody everywhere bending over backwards to make sure there was no problem with the machines that they would try to commit obvious voter fraud. My guess is someone hacked into the machines (I am told this can be done) and changed the program. If diebold did it they may have set it up then got way more people voting say a straight dem ticket than they estimated.
Sorry for your troubles Alaska,ns, my hope is the voter fraud folks will decend on Alaska like a swarm of hornets and figure out the truth. Perhaps this will be our chance to catch these cheaters with their pants around their knees and expose them for what they are.

8 11 2008
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8 11 2008
mike

The only influence Alaskan Democrats have on a presidential election is at the party caucus. That’s where Obama supporters went to be sure he got on the Democratic ticket.

Voting for a Democratic president in the general election, however, is a pretty pointless exercise. No chance our 3 electoral votes are ever going to a Democrat.

Many of us do the right thing and vote anyway.

But those in this to support Obama, especially all those new people who registered the night of that raucus caucus last February, did all they really needed to do back in February. Tuesday made no difference. And of course, by 6 pm we knew the winner of the presidential race. That’s why the congressional races tanked.

Sure, we need to check the votes. But accept it – the turnout SUCKED this year. Lots of us saw this at our polling places. Read about it on the net. The conspiracy baloney is not going to get us anywhere and paints the rest of us as paranoid, whining fools.

MOVE ON.




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