Bed Time in Alaska – Open Thread

7 11 2008

I love my President Elect. I’ve never said that before, because it’s never been true. One I sort of liked. A few I disliked intensely. Most I’ve tolerated. But, I’ve never loved one until now.

THIS LINK is one of the many reasons. You can’t click it, and not feel like this is your government, your country and your future.

I heard a rumor today that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was being considered to head up the Environmental Protection Agency. I was literally speechless. It was perfect. He’s actually…..(wait for it)…..an environmentalist! I thought to myself, “This President may do something I would do!” That just hasn’t happened to me. Ever.

Just as I knew that whatever TV show would come out that I really liked would be the one that was cancelled immediately after the pilot, I’ve always known that if I would do it, there was no way it was going to happen in a presidential administration. Even if RFK Jr. doesn’t end up in the position, just the fact that he was being considered was enough to bring home to me what this administration may actually mean – what they may actually DO. No more Christie Todd Whitman in charge of the EPA, telling us that there was nothing toxic in the air after the attacks on 9/11. No more “Brownie” in charge of FEMA. No more Alberto Gonzales subverting the Constitution. No more Donald Rumsfeld. No more John Ashcroft. No more Condoleeza Rice. No more Dick Cheney.

I’d been so focused on the election, and the presidency, and keeping Sarah Palin far far away from that undisclosed location, that all these new and wonderful avenues to change didn’t hit my radar until today. The floodgates are open, and the possibilities are rushing through.

Sweet dreams, Mudflatters. Change is coming.


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7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Sweet dreams to you too AKM – and thanks for everything!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Second!

Robert Kennedy at the EPA and Colin Powell at Education ! Not bad if it happens. John Kerry as Sec of State? I don’t know. Snore….

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Oh oh, Brit, is it down to us here? I still have to go wash up!

7 11 2008
Dee

I, too, am in love with this guy. I kinda loved Bill Clinton, but he sure did piss me off with his “behavior”, but he was a pretty good president overall.
The criticisms have already started about Obama’s selection of Rahm as Chief of Staff, but I think it’s a great choice. I have lots of hope and good feelings about our future.

7 11 2008
GJ happy n blue in Red Idaho

nite. all

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Hey Dee!

I agree with you about both Obama and Clinton. I hear more positive about Rahm than negative. Plus in my opinion he is eye candy! But I think that I completely trust Obama’s judgement with his advisors help. It’s not fair that they jump all over one choice – you have to look at the whole team he assembles to judge bi-partisanship and all that.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Night night GJ

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

After the commercial on CNN INT they are gonna dish the doggone dirt on the Queen of Alaska!

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Still here… just trying to work too – rather a lot of catching up to do this week! How’s about I eat brunch while you wash up?

7 11 2008
Bernice

What on earth is this comment Rev. Wright is sending out!? I see strolling on MSNBC that he is upset about how the media misused him against Obama!!!!

President Obama does NOT need this right now, at least allow him time to get settled in before he (Rev. Wright) opens his mouth!

7 11 2008
GJ happy n blue in Red Idaho

I’m old enough to rememger JFK…my 1st love….now I really am going off to dream land…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Gosh, who is this woman Repub consultant? She’s the first intelligent one I’ve seen in months!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Yeah Brit! Gotcha! But since Larry King is all about our Pres-elect, I have to keep running back and forth between tv and bathroom. Though I did already do my gym and vacuuming!

7 11 2008
Dee

Jamie, I agree about the “eye candy” thing🙂 And as far as the bipartisan thing goes, we’ve had 8 years of all the crap they could shovel at us, so I don’t mind a “little partisan” behavior on our part.
GJ, I was only 13 when Kennedy was elected and since all my friends and family were repubs, I was blind to his charms. But, when Bobby ran, I was nearing voting age and he was my guy. I watched every speech he made, and was watching the night he was assassinated. I cried for weeks.

7 11 2008
Jo the Girl in Buffalo, NY

http://www.change.gov is WONDERFUL.It wants OUR IDEAS about OUR GOVERNMENT AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO US. Check it out. I may be only 1/310,000,000 of our society, but I feel like I finally have a voice. I’m still trying to wrap my brain around that one!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Dee,
I agree about the partisan-thing. They are all so worried about a Dem Pres + Dem majority House and Senate, but hell how else are things gonna happen? Checks and Balances is fine and dandy, but not when each side is continually blocking every movement the other side makes.

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Vacuuming…? Oh, that!!!! Mine has to wait until the weekend… I woke up on Nov 5 and realised I share the house with a lot of dust rats. I’m a bit shocked by how obsessed I became with the election, but it’s been an interesting ride – and it’s not over yet…

I really have to get a life today… the fridge is empty and my son needs a haircut and I must work and earn some money. Jamie: clare dot barnes at glocalnet dot net … that’s me!!

7 11 2008
megacephalus

Free Alaska Now!

great ‘food for thought’ from .TNR.com [The National Review]

“Do you have to live in Alaska to join the Alaska Independence Party? If so, I think it’s about time to start a Lower 48 auxiliary.

“First they gave us Sarah Palin.

“Then they returned America’s two most ghoulish legislators to Washington, despite one of them having just been found guilty of seven felonies.

“And now comes word that something fishy may have happened to Alaska’s election-day ballots–a suitably banana-republic explanation for why turnout seems to have dropped despite the tight reelection races of Ted Stevens and Don Young, and the first-ever presence of an Alaskan on the national ballot.

“Isn’t there a certain point where we decide that no amount of oil and Denali National Park commemorative wall-plates are worth the ignominy of sharing a country with this kooky kleptocracy? A southern wing of Todd Palin’s former party would be the “you’re fired” to the original AIP’s “I quit.”
“Afterwards, we might even let them join NAFTA, bringing the bloc’s membership to…how many was that again?”
😉

LMAO!! That’s GREAT! I wouldn’t blame anyone. AKM

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@Brit
Gotcha on the mail.

I do have to make a few concessions to keep Mr. happy or he may just take away my computer rights! He is trying to be nice and understanding about it, but now he’s saying “It’s over! Tell your friends you’ll see them on-line in 6 months or so!” Poor guy! He’s stressed out at work and his sons are driving him nuts, so I do what I can to make sure the house is clean and cozy! And once the dust bunnies are getting close to Marty’s size, I know it’s time to vacuum. Plus today in the sunlight (which we haven’t had for a while) I see the dog drool stains on the wood floors!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ megacephalus (01:55:19) :
🙂

Funny! And how come we never thought of that – they want their independence, and so do we (want their independence)!

7 11 2008
megacephalus

An added thought of the bonus for the world’s peace entailed vis-a-vis Rahm Emanuel:

not just is ‘eye-candy’, Jamie, but [with, seriously meant, all-due-respect to your roots]

his appointment should help sweep AIPAC and Co. out of control of the White House through the Ultra-Zionist neo-con political blackmail of the past 8 years, one war for Israel ‘Ultras’, and no serious effort to put a ‘two state solution’ in place!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Gag me! Did you see what that idiot Silvio Berlusconi said about Obama? He refered to him as “young, handsome and suntanned”. Man! He should be put out to pasture once and for all!

7 11 2008
TheraP

I love my president elect too. I’ve never said it before either. Well, maybe when I was 15 and JFK was the coming president elect. Indeed at that point, I thought that’s what you did with presidents! Though I fought my repub dad tooth and nail over JFK, cuz he was for the alternative.

For the first time in my adult life, I feel safer knowing I have a president I can fully trust. It’s an amazing feeling to be 63 and put your faith in someone. It hasn’t happened for so long.

Read this from Josh Marshall and you’ll find our new president truly views himself as “under” the Constitution:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/243435.php

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (02:04:31) :

wasn’t Berlusconi one of the mourners at Haider’s funeral?😉

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ megacephalus (02:03:31) :

I think that anybody who loves and respects Israel and really believes in Middle East Peace sees the necessity of a two-state solution and have been calling for it for a long time. Bill Clinton worked so hard on it and was almost there. But after my husband called me biased and unfair whenever I talked about the Palestinians, I did quite a bit of research about it and I truly believe from everything I have read, that it has always been the PLO and Yassir Arafat that stood in the way of a Palestinian State. But I won’t argue about it here.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

Do go to this developing thread on .TNR.com re AIP, etc.

Other than us here, it’s also too good to miss!

.http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/11/06/free-alaska-now.aspx

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

megacephalus (02:08:25) :

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (02:04:31) :

wasn’t Berlusconi one of the mourners at Haider’s funeral?

Geez! Was he? It wouldn’t surprise me! When we lived in Italy he had just formed a coalition with Umberto Bossi and the Northern League which wanted to separate the “good” north from the south. And with Gianfranco Fini of the National Alliance which started out as a far right kind of fascist party.

7 11 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

AKM, thanks for pointing towards all the positives to come. Its so hard to re-focus energy on positive PROGRESIVE agendas when you’ve had 10 years of negative creeps running all facets of government. Now we will actually have some things to cheer for in the days to come. Let’s hope there are enough pragmatists with integrity on the Right who can recognize this for the opportunity that it is to heal the damage their overly-empowered despots have done over the past decade.

Times are tough, and there’s still a lot of work left to be done like investigating election fraud in Alaska, but we’ve got a great team taking over at the national level. This is not the end, its just the beginning!

Let’s keep our eyes on the prize. Free at last, free at last…..YES WE CAN.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (02:11:51) :

love to have a discussion between Berlin and Paris off-forum… sugestion?

meanwhile I think you’d really enjoy both Henryk M. Broder [Polish birth, Berliner with home also in Israel] writes in German but some translated on the English part of .SPIEGEL.de on-line… and also Rafael Seligmann whose
.http://www.atlantic-times.com is in English!

Don’t forget about the forum boards where you can start a thread on any topic you like, and also the chat room is open 24/7 for quicker back & forth discussion. We’ve got you covered! AKM 🙂

7 11 2008
szn46

me,too.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

megacephalus (02:22:02) :

are you German or an American expat? If so, where are you from?

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Oh, I forgot to add something to that post-Bill Clinton and Middle East peace – I really don’t think that the Bush Admin cared very much about Israel, Palestine or anybody that wasn’t part of their Axis of Evil/Corridor of Oil. They had one agenda and that was it! They really let so much bad build up over a very long 8 years behind their back while they were looking elsewher. Clinton was so close, that a great Administration could have just stepped into those shoes and cleaned up. But, well, it all took a back seat to personal vengeance and oil.

7 11 2008
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7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

On the noon French news they refer to Michelle as “the new Jackie Kennedy but without th arrogance”🙂

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

In Rare Turn, Iran’s Leader Sends Letter to Obama

TEHRAN — President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran sent an unusual letter congratulating President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday for his victory in the American presidential race, even though the two nations have had no diplomatic ties for nearly 30 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/world/middleeast/07iran.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

What is “Thursday’s “action”?

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (02:29:55) :

Expat since 2002 here in East Berlin as “political refugee from GWB”. so ‘curmudgeonly’ [as you may have noticed] that I am one of a few so left that we got licked out [really!] of ‘Democrats Abroad Berlin’ for really wanting to ‘organize’ here with it… most friends are ‘Ossies’ as their mentality is nearest to ‘Yankees’ or ‘Old Boston’…spent the 4/5 night with Ami/German couple, 3 more German friends of theirs [68ers], and younger [30ish] German, Russian and Irish… Born in Boston worked and raised 2 kids singly – including first MoveOn Ex-Dir – in Portland, ME as Architect in Preservation and Adaptive Re-use. Sailor forever and my little MAC marketing/translation biz moves in summer to a ‘Small Boat through Sweden’.. next question?

7 11 2008
Bev

Been getting comments lately about Emmanuel – snarky comments about how this man is ultra partisan. So here’s my take – the COS is the dragon at the gate. The COS is point person and the one who guards the President’s back in the best and worst of times. Emmanuel is savvy, politically adept, and probably the best dragon at the gate – and I for one am relieved that Obama requested his service in the WH. the Kerry possibility for Secy of State really bothers me – I don’t think the man has the level of respect in the world needed to get much done. And Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg for UN? No way. She’s a nice lady and a Kennedy but give us someone with experience and gravitas and a world reputation based on that experience and not on the fact she’s the last surviving member of the JFK clan. And someone needs to tell Arnold that he should stay in California and is not invited to Washington – Arnold for Climate Change? No. Gore, Yes!

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky
7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Hey, we’ve just had an inch of rain for the first time since Feb 2005, I’m wiiiide awake😀

7 11 2008
LaNon

Hi. Big demonstations in West Hollywood and in West LA in front of big Mormon Temple against Prop 8 passage. Pix here: http://www.latimes.com
Another is planned for tomorrow early eve at the Salt Lake City Temple.

7 11 2008
samihawaii hussein that one stevens

you are sooo right, AKM, i’m inspired by and in love with the intelligent, sensible possibilities, too! repubs may be crying in their six-packs, but they had their turn and now it’s ours! president obama! president obama! president obama!

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (02:29:55) :

p.s. took DIVA along to amuse my German friends… one of my favorites – especially of Paris… seemed an appropriate flick… none had ever heard of it… amazing cultural gap here between FR and DE.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

megacephalus (02:55:59) :

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (02:29:55) :

Expat since 2002 here in East Berlin as “political refugee from GWB”.

You are funny! I am also in self-imposed political exile – when Reagan was re-elected! GWB only made me stay longer. Now there is hope! The rest of your story is a bit confusing to me – said just a little too fast. I am at jamieannschler at gmail dot com new address, new system so I still have some trouble with it though.

Bev :
I agree – the dems and reps were talking Emanuel on Larry King, both said he is a strong fierce Dem, but he works more in the center and pulls both sides in. They say that he knows how to get the job done.

I say do something with Maria but tell Arnie to stay home! You are right! Arnie said horrible things about Obama less than a week before the election. Kerry I say no to as Sec of State. Too boring, too pedantic. And why isn’t Donna Brazile already hs Spokesperson? And McCain? Blah! His campaign was too disorganized, he either made horrible decisions or let them be made for him against his core beliefs. No way, No Mccain. Robert Kennedy at EPA – brilliant! And I do think he should bring in Reps like Hagel and Luger.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Bev (02:56:34) :

I am all for Emmanuel. Anyone who has ever worked for the govt knows the value of someone who can get things done, make things happen. Obstruction is a way of life for some in the govt – they are the ones who need their noses punched once in a while.

I vote for the nose-puncher. I don’t care if he’s cute.😉

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ megacephalus (03:07:21) :

Loved the book Diva but had a hard time with the movie cause they had changed too much from the book. How about some early Truffaut?

Sorry, gotta go do my grocery shopping. Be back in 20.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Aussie –

you know that we are serious girls who value a man’s brains and capabilities. The cute is just a plus after 8 years of ugly buggers.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, Floridian in France (03:11:34) :

Aussie –

you know that we are serious girls who value a man’s brains and capabilities. The cute is just a plus after 8 years of ugly buggers.
————————————————————-
yes, I agree he’s far from f’ugly – but he could look like Karl Rove for all I care!😀

7 11 2008
nonni_g

I know what you mean….everyday since the election, new and wonderful thoughts pop up that make me smile HUGELY. Like yesterday: I’m on the highway to work looking for how many Obama stickers vs McPHHHHt stickers (as I usually did) and I come up on a car with a McPHHHHt sticker….I am soooooo tempted to put that “L” fingers on my forehead and smiiiiiiiiiiiiile at the driver–but I show restraint—-I drive by with my Obama sign in my window a smile plastered on my face and sing “Loser, loser, you are a loser”……okay, I know it’s mean, but boy did it feel gooood. I had my windows rolled up, so the driver didn’t actually hear me….anyway….the BEST man/team won and I cannot wait to see what happens next…..only good things please God, okay?

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

nonni_g (03:16:51) :

That’s the way – smile such a big smile that they never see you lips moving.😉

7 11 2008
Philly Gal

I feel the way you do. I always thought I should open up an agency that served political candidates: They would come to see me, we would talk, and if I really liked them, I would advise them not to run because if I liked them, they would surely lose. It’s very nice this time to be wrong! BTW, loved your Sarah Palin at the airport piece.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

mega, I did post before that a) there was a lien filed by Spenard, so you wouldn’t expect that Howdie even ordered the building materials; and b) the tradesman who said he “didn’t remember” if he’d worked on the house ….. in a tiny town, what tradesmen wouldn’t remember working on the mayor’s house.

An afterthought: when you gather together your tradesmen friends to help you build your house, you don’t tend to refer to them as “my buddies who are contractors” … not in my world, anyway.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Aussie Blue Sky

I guess they don’t all know how to lie without blinking. Even McArizona couldn’t do it.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Hey Philly Gal –

Don’t think I’ve crossed paths with you here before. I was at school in Philly – went to Penn quite a number of years ago, when Philly was just starting to be a cool, big food town.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

This is how she dressed before the shopping trip? What is with these shoes with this suit? Boy did she ever need a makeover!

7 11 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

I’m still addicted to sarah dirt. She has touched some horror button in me that won’t turn off. Bush was bad, a stupid man with powerful friends. But Palin is worse, and she’s working on making powerful friends. So we need to work on making her too hot to handle. Too many scandals, too many gaffes, too many pay-offs, too many “gates.”

And here is my fairy tale reposted from the bottom of another thread that I got to late.
Todd was Sarah’s first witchcraft experiment. She’s been working on the perfect love potion for 30 years (it’s okay to be a witch if you are a Christian witch). But she dumped in too many loyal puppy dog tails in the first batch, and braindead teenage Todd became eternally enamored. She toned down the puppy dog tails before dumping a batch in the water supply for the dairy. After milk drinkers elected her mayor, she added chopped Jedi and fresh air before dumping her potion in the Anchorage water supply (she even dumped it in the water supply for Alaskan breweries). After her successful election as governor she sent her brew to Wal-Mart for distribution in liquid food products. That was her fatal mistake. When she hit the national stage, she didn’t realize that a bunch of damn liberals didn’t shop at Wal-Mart (darned commie socialist anti-american jerks). When she winked, all the people under her spell began to make robocalls (those weren’t recordings, they were Palin zombies) and eat their democrat neighbors in the dead of night, leaving only blue bones. But all the people who didn’t drink the brew (or breathe the piped in air at her rallies, with the aerosol version of her potion) just looked at her like she was growing long hair out of her nose. Then a pack of wolves who had read Watership Downs and seen The Secret of NIMH sneaked into Sarah’s laboratory and switched her potion to children’s liquid benedryl, which put all the zombies to sleep and they forgot to vote. On her way home from Arizona, Sarah made the plane stop in Seattle so that she could stock up on puppy dog tails and freezed-dried Jedi. Those meth labs in Wasilla?….those are just undercover Sarah labs pumping out elixir2012.
Sleep well my pretties.

7 11 2008
Zim in Oz

@Aussie Blue Sky (02:58:05) :
>>>Hey, we’ve just had an inch of rain for the first time since Feb 2005, I’m wiiiide awake >>>

Fantastic Aussie…I check the radar daily and noticed there was rain in your parts (I keep an eye open for friends in Wangaratta)

We had quite a bit today too…..RAIN….Yay !🙂

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

After Stevens was found guilty of taking gifts and getting free renovations on his home – I guess we can assume that She will be under investigation very soon for the same things? I mean, I know this has been discussed over and over again so many times, but geez! every time I see something else about the home + the sports center a fuse blows in my brain.

I am with Rapture Spenard Palin. She has done so much that is so horrible, I won’t rest until she is taken back down to where she started!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Welcome back Zim on Oz

7 11 2008
Enchanted and Healing

G’Morning fellow muddies. I too am feeling the love for the first time! President elect is holding a press conference today. I’m not sure when but I hope I’m available to see it live. I can’t EVER remember having that *must see tv* moment about any other presidents.

With her athletic abilities, Sarah is doing a pretty good job of playing dodgeball right now. (LMAO to the Rethug aides spilling on her!) But it shouldn’t be too long before she tries to zig when she shoulda zagged. SMACK! OUCH!

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (03:10:30) :

DIVA… I got the film in the theater version… [OMG 1982 ! ] then the DVD… ah, the Fernandez / ‘la Wally’ music and la petite ‘Namese… sexist old pig that I am… [occasionally!] trade you one Thuy An Luu card for one Rahm E.😉 … I digress… and then read ALL the ‘Delacorta’ books I could find as well as all the Beineix flicks…. ‘Betty Blue’… etc.

– A word of caution: I would NEVER on an open forum, outside a password controlled site, send my e-mail address in the ‘useable’ form but rather as: ‘thomas (dot) acquinas (at) vatican (dot) org’, par example, in order to not get grabbed by the spammers’ web-crawlers.

– And a question: I posted over several threads here in past couple of days the to see if we couldn’t start putting some $$$ money where our mouths are. Not JUST thank AKM but start a fund to be used for ‘nailin’ palin’ [SP told the Québeqois ‘Sarko’ she liked the flick] political organizing on whatever line AKM might find appropriate …

NOT ONE RESPONSE :-((((( Any thoughts? Anyone?

I am reasonably certain there are “things in the works” here in Alaska. I’ll know more in the coming weeks and will keep you posted! Also, fixed the email for Jamie. AKM

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Enchanted and Healing:

You are right. For 8 years every time I heard that the Pres was going to give a conference or speak on tv, I ran. His voice, his idiocy made me cringe and gag. How wonderful to be anxious to hear our Pres, to want to be tuned in!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

megacephalus (03:59:43) :

thanks for the word of caution re: e-mail address. I thought of it too late. Still technologically naive, I am.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

BTW that was the “nailin’ palin Challenge” the spam Cerebus bit off my title!

7 11 2008
Bobg

Good Morning all. I keep hearing about that strange Alaskan election but I never hear about inquiries or investigations. Are Alaskan so jaded that they are just going to let it slide?

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

I just heard on French news that Obama is speaking at 8:30 pm. Is that our time or US time?

7 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Well said, AKM! It’s such a different and wonderful feeling!

7 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

As I have heard many say, Obama is a perfectionist, he will pick
the best people to surround himself with. We all know that if he
runs the country as he did his campaign, nothing should be feared
concerning his selections of cabinet members. I too remember JFK,
although I was only 12 at the time. I was very saddened when he
died. My grandparents were democrats (forever) and my grandmother
cried like a baby for days. I read somewhere something interesting
recently. In 1940, (think that year is correct) FDR realized that having
Thanksgiving on Nov. 23rd that year, would cause economical problems.
He then decreed that Thanksgiving would therefore be celebrated on
the fourth Thursday in November. Therefore a change was made to
the adage (hope I used the right word) that we all are familiar with…..
Thirty days hath September,
April, June and November.
All the rest have thirty-one.
Until we hear from
WASHINGTON!

7 11 2008
Grammy a/k/a WE ARE BLUE PA

The AK Division of Elections has a chart showing how many outstanding ballots there are to be counted, by district:

http://www.elections.alaska.gov/files/08GENR/remaining_absentee_early_question_numbers.pdf

If I’m reading it right, there are 58,000+ to be counted yet (absentee and early voting) – wow!

7 11 2008
RLS

Press Conference seems to be at 1:30 pm Central Time, 2:30 EST.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/11/obama_press_conference_friday.html

7 11 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

Good morning all.
Can’t start my day without seeing what’s up on Mudflats. Obama will make good choices and I think Emanuel is a a great choice. He was effective during the Clinton years and has the experience. Obama is smart enough to know he doesn’t know everything and can’t do this without surrounding himself with intelligent engaged people who know about the areas he appoints them to, unlike our outgoing President.
There will always be criticism but I think the Repubs have some soul searching and reorganizing to occupy their time.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Thanks RLS. That is 8:30 pm in Europe.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Jamie, Floridian in France

my, my… my ISP here in Berlin to my mailserver in Boston has ‘fallen out’ since 07:00 CET this a.m. [Thank you Vodaphone! … I have developed a theory: ” ‘German Customer Service’ is an Oxymoron!” ] so… no on-line client work today, just chatting with y’all. Pleasure!

Jamie, you’re one big reason [of course all in addition to AHM] that I hang in here. Aussie too!

7 11 2008
Sarge

Here in Indiana we call this cleaning out the barn. And, wow – does the damned
thing stink! I do not want to see a “witch hunt” after Obama leaves office but I
do want those guilty of breaking the law to be punished. What we have had for the last eight years is a President who thought that he was above the law. Maybe even that he WAS the law. Rules no longer applied. And, when they did they were
ignored or circumvented. We had a king….
November the 4th was America’s Bastille Day. And, now it is time to hold those who violated our trust, trampled our Constitution, engaged in torture, and lied
to We The People accountable. I say, “Off with their heads”…..

Oh, what’s up with Brian?

Sarge
Indianapolis

7 11 2008
disgustedfemale

I heard this and was speechless…

Oh my someone who really cares about the environment…what a novel idea

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ megacephalus (04:45:00) :

You just made a pretty good day better! Thanks for the complement!

7 11 2008
7 11 2008
apeescape

Sorry messed up on the link

Say it ain’t so, Barack!

7 11 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

Morning all!

Hi Jaime … going shopping for you this weekend!!! Hope I can find DingDongs here … I think we have something similar though.

7 11 2008
Newfoundland Dogs Rule

Good Morning AK and All Mudpuppies,

AK wrote: No more Dick Cheney.

Hmmm. I think Obama and crew should be check out all the closets, all the basements. Oh, also Biden better check everything to make sure he left.

I have this picture in my head where Cheney is lurking with all his spider web strings still out in the world.

Whew, that just sends a shiver down my spine. GET THE SPRAY!

Take care

7 11 2008
Ennealogic

Megacephalus,

Re funding some sort of organization to further needed political work in AK — I think very many of us would be delighted to do it. It’s just too soon to ask for or expect commitments because the size, shape and purpose are still nebulous. If AKM proposes or endorses such an organization, I’m sure you’ll see a lot of the mudpuppies get on board.
🙂

7 11 2008
White Agate

Agreed, AKM. I was checking out that web site yesterday and thinking how cool it would be to read all the e-mails sent around to the new admin, good and bad. No one in our government HAS EVER HAD A WEB SITE LIKE THAT BEFORE. It’s like a big old welcome table for the entire country. The Obama team is so cool.

I loved how tired and happy Obama looked onstage the other night, and then all of the family came on stage. I thought, what nice people and what beautiful American families. They have worked so hard and they are taking this on, we need to help them as much as they are helping us.

I am still thinking of the change that will come, especially in terms of marriage equality. And so we move forward.

If you ever read Mark Kleiman’s blog, ‘The Reality-Based Community,’ there was a great post there the other night, November 4th. Here is is, excerpted.

Quote: ‘This is the Hebrew prayer of thanks for having been allowed to live to see something new. (And yes, Hebrew “baruch” is cognate with Arabic/Swahili “barack”: both mean “blessed.”)’ End quote.

It is chanted at naming ceremonies for babies, weddings, other important ‘first and only’ occasions. It makes me cry then and it makes me cry now.

The (very) loose translation is ‘Blessed are you o Lord, that you have made it possible for me to see this day, when something entirely new has been brought forth in your creation.’

‘Baruch atah ha-shem, eloheinu, melech ha-olam, shehechayunu, v’kimanu, v’higianu la’zman hazeh.’

I am happy to have been alive for this and to start helping with whatever comes next. Thinkers on the right and in conservative circles like Frum, Sullivan, etc. knew this was coming, but offer only demographics to appeal to for the future, not actual policies that help run the country. Actually Sullivan wrote a book on this that I have to read. He’s one of the few with good ideas versus the ideology we still see from the GOP. It’s only when they stop just trying to win and start governing well (with philosophical differences from the Dems of course) that they will be a viable party again. A big part of that is not kowtowing to the religious right, because their ideas will not change.

Thomas Frank in the WSJ the other day, he has been a must-read during this election and will continue to be:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584338026799165.html?mod=rss_The_Tilting_Yard

I will be more thankful than usual this Thanksgiving!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Tired Mom (VA) –

Yeah I’m thinking about you too!

re : Dick Cheney – if he isn’t in his secret hiding hole in the Mountains on the Montana border, check that man-size safe in the VPs office.

7 11 2008
More Light than Heat

Jamie and others,
Got a comment on my blog from someone I know well and who, while not impressed with McCain, remains far less impressed with Obama. Ok, he’s a very conservative Repub — thinks Reagan walks on water. First reaction is to say that actions don’t match pre-election rhetoric and that Rahm’s selection disproves the intent of bipartisanship. Bah.

Please, take a look at my top blog post, the comment, my response, and any additional info to encourage this person to give our guy a chance, that Rahm’s selection doesn’t portend what he fears.

7 11 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Morning Mud Puppies!

More light than heat, saw many pundits talking about the Rohm selection. Most were cautiously optimistic. All said he was a man that got things done. He is abrasive at times but speaks the truth.

Let your friend know that he is friends with many Repulicans and Lindsey Graham came out yesterday and said it was a very good selection and he has known Rohm for years.

Hope that helps.

7 11 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Oops not enough coffee yet this morning the spelling should be Rahm. LOL

7 11 2008
Grammy a/k/a WE ARE BLUE PA

OT and maybe I am just brain dead but will Obama be going to Hawaii for his grandmother’s funeral??

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

More Light than Heat (05:10:53) :

I too looked at your blog, the post and your response. I agree with Proud Community Org. that this is someone who knows his way around Washington and Washington politics, he is also known for getting things done, being able to work with everybody regardless of “side” and being both fierce and firm. But as Chief of Staff, he is there to work with the staff and make sure they are doing their jobs.

As far as Obama goes, no one can judge his actions by one choice. Wait until he assembles his whole cabinet – then you will see diversity and bi-partisanship.

7 11 2008
More Light than Heat

@ proud & others who’ve commented on Rahm’s selection:

Thanks, I pointed out that the DCCC job description (and skill set) is very different from COS. Will communicate with this person privately and say more. He’s my #1 son, and I kiddingly say that he inherited his political beliefs from his father’s side of the family. I’m coming to think that outlook is to a large extent hard-wired, and political beliefs seem to follow. Needless to say, our conversations are frequently “lively” to say the least.😉

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Ennealogic (05:07:45) :

yeah, my hope was to get some commitments to something REAL, or organize it from the grassroots up and present it to AKM as real, not just talk to work with, so I chose to put MY money where my mouth was and sent some ahead for AKM to decide what to do with… [pardon, please, the ‘dangling preposition’].

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ Proud Community OrganizerWA (05:24:12) :

yeah, sortta’ choked on that one and thought about calling you it…😉

Rohm was Hitler’s Rahm, sort of… and leader of the ‘Brownshirts’ or S.A., until ‘the night of long knives’

7 11 2008
White Agate

megacephalus (05:36:15) :

I did donate to AKM for her to continue her work, and will again, now that I am not donating to political campaigns every week.

Agreed, we have to remain in a mode of ‘constant vigilance,’ and the AK vote situation is still unresolved.

7 11 2008
Grammy a/k/a WE ARE BLUE PA
7 11 2008
scottish-mud-fan

Election night photos of the Obama family. Not sure Fickr is coping with all the traffic as it keeps hanging for me, but the candid shots are very touching when you get to see them.
http://flickr.com/photos/barackobamadotcom/sets/72157608716313371/

7 11 2008
Political Amazon

Thank you, AKM, for this post. Your voice speaks for me and many others.

I never thought I’d experience another election phenomenom like the JFK election, but I have. Indeed, Obama’s election carries more excitement, hope, and potential for progress–not just for Amerca, but for the world–than JFK’s election did. Beyond that, Obama’s win helped to heal old wounds and give truth to the American ideal that all people are created equal, and that this is a country where every person has the potential to manifest their childhood dreams.

I remember the headiness of the JFK campaign. Even though a age 7 I was not old enough to vote at the time, I well remember how my parents experienced the election. I believe it was my parents’ spirited discussions and close following of every aspect of JFK’s election campaign and administration (along with their union activism) that bred in me the nearly obessive dedication I have in the election and voting process.

The elections since Kennedy have strayed so far from the united hope of the JFK election that I have often wondered if my memories of the JFK election were really just a dream…reality colored by the gauzy lens of viewing the past. With the culmination of the filth of the Bush campaigns and administraton, I wondered if it had ever been really possible to have a presidential campaign and administration with the sky’s-the-limits bouyancy and–dare I say it?–happiness of the American people united behind an incredible leader.

But the Obama campaign proved to me that the JFK campaign and administration I remember was, indeed, possible and that I didn’t just create a fantasy out of my own hopes and dreams.

And now that I’ve seen his first steps in the transition process, I am encouraged by the continuation of the positive, united approach Obama engineered for his campaign being carried forth into the very foundation of his presidency.

We can all now again be proud of our president and our country. When we travel abroad, or interact on the internet with those outside of America’s borders, we no longer have to start each conversation with a profound apology for our asshat president and the destruction he has visited upon the world. We can face the world with a beaming smile on our face and with the confidence that the entire planet will no longer suffer thanks to the asinine votes of less than half of our country.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ White Agate (05:48:59): SUPER! – let’s keep on enabling AKM: “nailin’ palin”

7 11 2008
Political Amazon

Grammy:

[[[Palin fires back over claims by some McCain aides

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/06/palin-camp-fires-back-over-claims-by-some-mccain-aides/%5D%5D%5D

Palin’s attempts to defend herself are–like her knowledge of everything that does not involve killing or abusing her authorit–sadly weak.

She has not yet refuted one of the statements from the McCain campaign. She has to resort to attacking her critics–which is surely the sign of an impotent position.

7 11 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

I, too, LOVE my new president!!!

He is going to “teacher-parent” conference this morning between transition meetings! What a guy! What a dad! What a Prez!

7 11 2008
katiebegood

One of the first things I would like to see Obama do, after appointing his cabinet, is to make sure that both Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are replaced in their leadership positions. Neither is competent. I just went to change.gov and left this idea under “American Moment”, “Share your vision”.

7 11 2008
Nisperos

@ Jamie, Floridian in France (01:18:51) and other mudpuppies…

Colin Powell at Education (or heading the Peace Corps, I might suggest)!!! That would be more than sweet! Education, dedication, and service to country through the military or the Peace Corps. When Obama did his rally in Fort Collins, CO at the CSU Oval (just the outdoor office before the indoor office), he said that anyone who was willing to serve in the military or the Peace Corps should be given the means to receive a college education. I so love this idea of education for service to country.

The Peace Corps, for those who don’t know, came out of a pilot project study already underway at CSU by the time it was announced by JFK. (For that reason we say it was born at CSU and, also, we are going to build a National Peace Corps Museum in our town). The Peace Corps study was funded under a Point-IV contract (precursor to USAID). What some don’t know is that the U.S. Military was also involved with Point-IV contracts, for example, helping with mapping and surveying work in Latin American countries…

But if you have a minute, go to this link and read more about the Youth Corps which had been called for in the Reuss-Neuberger Bill, an amendment to the Mutual Security Act, the “Thomasites” in the Philippines after the Spanish-American War, American Friends Service Committee doing relief work after World War I, the CCC, the British VSO, etc… : http://peacecorpswriters.org/pages/2003/0307/307pchist.html

7 11 2008
Terry

I’m not thrilled about the idea of RFK Jr as the head of the EPA, although he’d be an improvement. Why not put an actual scientist in there, someone with experience in contaminants work and a policy background?

7 11 2008
eajphd Wolves Run Free

Rahm Emanuel fits with the basic function of a chief of staff which is to be a hard nosed protagonist for the president and to insure that the white house staff is kept up to snuff. President Elect Obama’s whole approach to management is based on the idea that he wants dialogue and in order to get it from his staff they need someone who can clearly articulate both his position and their positions. He admires Ronald Regan’s administrative approach and wants keeps himself above the fray of day to day internal office politics in order to focus on larger issues.

7 11 2008
Miemaw from Texas

AKM – your next assignment, should you choose to accept it.

Why do you reckon so many Republican knives are pointed at the bullseye, on your Governor’s back?

All this stuff about Palin (the clothes buying spree, the lack of knowledge, the even worse aversion to learning what she should have known) is not coming from Democrats. It’s coming from Republicans.

Y’all might wait awhile to print up those “Palin 2012” bumper stickers.

She may not have the backing of a major political party.

Most curious thing I ever have seen in all my almost three quarters of a century. Not even Dan Quayle went through this kind of circular firing squad.

So, who is made to look worse in this: McCain for his lack of judgment, in choosing her — or Palin because, knowing she wasn’t ready, she really could have refused, and didn’t?

7 11 2008
Freakout in Kansas

I don’t know if anyone’s be interested, but MoveOn will be selling Shepard Fairey’s limited edition “Yes We Did – Victory” prints at 12:30 EST:

https://pol.moveon.org/shepstickers/leposters.html?id=15080-9910407-Swoq6Px&t=6

The above link seems to be working on again, off again…the site must be getting hammered.

7 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Grammy, I heard somewhere that at some point prior to taking office the Obamas will be taking a vacation and going to Hawii to honor his grandmother
I love our new president also, I believe he will make good choices for his cabinet, we have become so used to stupidity leading the country we are all just expecting him to screw up. I don’t think this is going to happen.
Remember this, this is a man who has overcome incredible odds to become our president. He was not kidding when he said he was about the most unlikely president elect he could think of. To accomplish this he has to be brilliant beyond my comprhension. He has surrounded himself with equally intelligant people that ran his campaign with precision I imagine this is a habit and his cabinet will be equally as good though I am sure there will be alot of republicans that will squeal like they are dying over every choice. They have become so used to being in power they think they are entitled to be in control and they are used to having everything their way, while we are used just the opposite. We will actually have to adjust to the idea that our president shares many of our ideas and things might actually go the way we think they should every once in awhile. It’s going to be rough I know.
California folks: I am with you in spirit. Keep protesting prop 8. I am glad that you are taking it to where they live and shining a light on just what they contributed to the situation. We have, I think, been to kind to those who would force the rest of us to live by their rules. They seem to get away with things like this without consequence. Whats up with a church being the money behind a political issue anyway, I would be questioning their tax exempt status.

7 11 2008
Bobg

Had to turn off MSNBC. A Palin apology session going on this morning. “She is a victim. She is the most undiva person Wallace knows. She never asked for anything except a Diet Coke.” Give me a break!!! Just the towel incident (Joe Scarborough says so what) proves to me that this woman has no class what-so-ever. The quote I heard on TV sums it all up, “A bunch of Wasilla hillbillys looting Saks from coast to coast.”

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ Tired Mom (VA) (06:03:41) :

I, too, LOVE my new president!!!

He is going to “teacher-parent” conference this morning between transition meetings! What a guy! What a dad! What a Prez!

Can you imagine being that teacher?!

@ Nisperos (06:08:17) :
And Bill Clinton created the domestic version which is Americorps. I discovered this just recently when I was looking for ssomething that my 20 year old son could do. They offer the choice of working independently as part of a group, near your home or somewhere else – and they offer lodging, food and small pay. And they offer money towards college at the end of a year. I think its great!

And my younger son who is a senior in high school here in France plans on moving to the States right after he graduates and eventually going to college there. I think its wonderful if, in exchange for community service or volunteer work, he will get $4000 towards college – a year!

7 11 2008
Bobg

Sarge-I agree that those responsible for torture, lying us into a disastrous war and other crimes should be prosecuted.

Political Amazon-As Obama was speaking at Grant Park a saying of Henry Ford came to me-“If you think you can or if you think you can’t; either way you’re right.”

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Miemaw from Texas (06:14:34) :

So, who is made to look worse in this: McCain for his lack of judgment, in choosing her — or Palin because, knowing she wasn’t ready, she really could have refused, and didn’t?

Did you notice that McCain is keeping a very low profile to stay out of hitting distance from all the shits that flying? I could see that he realized that he made a gross error in choosing her and is trying to stay out of the fray and salvage what little dignity he has left.
I also think that if the stories are true, she deserves what she gets. She thought that the national scene was just like the AK scene where she could get by on little intelligence, live off the tax payers money and be the Queen Bee. I think what went wrong was the initial reaction to her, as if she was a superstar! She took that to heart and thought that she could get away with anything. But on the other hand it makes sense that something has to give in the Repug Party it is such a disaster! And too bad for her she just makes the perfect shooting target.

7 11 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

megacephalus,

Call me out anytime. LOL I learned spelling the old fashioned way as in hooked on phonics. LMAO

7 11 2008
Lulu

Miemaw from Texas (06:14:34) wrote :
“AKM – your next assignment, should you choose to accept it.
Why do you reckon so many Republican knives are pointed at the bullseye, on your Governor’s back? All this stuff about Palin (the clothes buying spree, the lack of knowledge, the even worse aversion to learning what she should have known) is not coming from Democrats. It’s coming from Republicans.”

Yes, yes, yes! I’d love to read AKM’s thought on this topic as well. What Miemaw said!

As KO pointed out last night, the Repubs are eating their own. Palin was used by them to rally the fundies, the racists and the whackos (a.k.a. “the base”). She failed. The RNC guys didn’t like her ambition level; they were undaunted by her ignorance, it seems.

But isn’t there a big GOP invitation-only confab going on right now in VA about the future of the Repub. party? I’m surprised Palin isn’t there. She’s in Wasilla now or Anchorage, right? Why isn’t she at the big GOP regrouping party if she is a serious consideration in anyone’s mind for 2012?

7 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Miemaw from Texas (06:14:34) :

Why do you reckon so many Republican knives are pointed at the bullseye, on your Governor’s back?
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I read an article by one of our Washington State republicans (that would be from the sisiy pants moderate wing) that he thought the democrats had found their voice and their direction for the first time since Vietnam. Now the republican party has imploded much as the democrats did back then.
If this is indeed the case you will probably see alot of backbiting on the downward spiral. Why are they being so mean to Sarah, well I kind of think they didn’t check her out to well they thought they were getting someone who would stand there and look pretty not offend anyone, and do as she was told. Most republicans in the past have chosen a weak vice president, think Dan Quail, George HW Bush. Her choice was meant to be along those lines she turned out not to be what they thought.

7 11 2008
Enchanted and Healing

Lulu (06:28:51) :

But isn’t there a big GOP invitation-only confab going on right now in VA about the future of the Repub. party? I’m surprised Palin isn’t there. She’s in Wasilla now or Anchorage, right? Why isn’t she at the big GOP regrouping party if she is a serious consideration in anyone’s mind for 2012?
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I’d be even more surprised to see her there! I don’t think there’s a single soul who wants to be associated with her right now. Besides, she’s back home in Wasilla licking her wounds (while dodging the MSM- poor saps are probably camped out with major frostbite issues about now). But rest assured, she’s already working on a reinvention of the honorable Sarah.

7 11 2008
Bobg

I kind of think McCain is happy that he didn’t win. If he had won, Palin would have set herself up as co-president with a 75% share of the office. I hope that we never hear from her in a national campaign again.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Lulu :
“Palin was used by them to rally the fundies, the racists and the whackos (a.k.a. “the base”). She failed.”

Actually, she succeeded in that. And that is what scared them. I really don’t think that a lot of the moderates or the intellectual neo-cons thought that the base was crawling with such slimy, racist creatures. And she really whipped it up with gusto! I think it even freaked McCain out! And she thrived on the adoration of this horrid base so she just dug in deeper. I think because of her great success with these tens of thousands, she decided that shouldn’t be coached and held back, that if she really let loose they would just love her all the more.

7 11 2008
Lulu

Maybe Palin will be like Madonna–a new persona with each new album, a new look and lexicon with each new campaign.

Here’s the big GOP meeting I referenced; I guess it ended yesterday. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Top_conservatives_to_meet_tomorrow_in_Virginia.html?showall

7 11 2008
Lulu

Jamie wrote: “Actually, she succeeded in that [rallying the base]. And that is what scared them.”

I guess what I meant is that she failed to win the election. Depending on which poll you use, up to 59% of voters did not think she was qualified.

7 11 2008
kathy in Austin

I feel content.

That has been the word in my mind, well, that and peaceful and safe. Finally, I have a president who makes the choices I think I would make. I live in Austin, a blue dot in a big unrepentant red state. I have lived with a president, both senators and my local rep making every single decision from an 180 degree opposite from me viewpoint. I feel like I’ve finally stumbled back out of some sort of bizarro universe, and back to a place that seems like reality.

I hope that Obama tackles at least one major thing early on. I hope that voting will become more open, more transparant and more verifiable. So that it doesn’t take a tidal wave after 8 years of horror, to overwhelm a possibly rigged system.

I am content and excited to see what Obama and his team can accomplish and I’m ready to pitch in!

7 11 2008
Anonymous

I heard the GOP was having a meeting in Idaho soon, and Sarah has been invited, but McCain was not.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Yeah, you are right Lulu. And if they had vetted her better they would’ve seen both the ambition and the ignorance.

7 11 2008
snowbelle

I think Rahm may turn out to be a brilliant choice at COS. Obama needs someone who can run the inner workings of the White House and “get things done,” but I don’t think anyone here has pointed out that Obama will need someone with street cred in Congress to keep his fellow Democrats in line.

In order to turn this COUNTRY around, Obama will need to let McCain supporters know that they’ve been heard, too — I think this means that legislative priorities must be big-picture and pragmatic. High spirits among the Dems on The Hill may lead them to propose laws that could burn up any good will among conservatives before the important things are done.

I think Rahm is tough enough to stand up to his allies as well as his opponents.

7 11 2008
C.Rock

snowbelle (06:49:10)
In order to turn this COUNTRY around, Obama will need to let McCain supporters know that they’ve been heard, too — I think this means that legislative priorities must be big-picture and pragmatic. High spirits among the Dems on The Hill may lead them to propose laws that could burn up any good will among conservatives before the important things are done
……………………………
I heard on CNN yesterday that Biden called McCain and told him that they needed him.

7 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

apeescape (05:01:47) :

A lot of scientists are NOT happy with the news on RFK Jr. His unrepentant activism on pseudo-correlations between autism and vaccines is just one example that discredits him for the job. Hear here from an expert:

I like Obama a lot, but after I saw the Bush administration politicizing science, RFK Jr for the head of EPA or any other position affecting major decisions in science policy would not be the change that we’re looking for.

With his reputation and lawyer skills, he would be much better as say the Assistant Attorney General for the Environment and Natural Resources.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
First off, if you have read RFK’s book “Crimes against nature” you would know Bush & Co have completely gutted the EPA and have many so called “scientists” in their pocket who are probably screaming b/c their about to lost their jobs. And if anyone is so stupid to suppose to think mercury injected is NOT having a effect on kids or adults (thimerosal in vaccines) you must of had too many vaccines, already!🙂
I had heard he was going to be asked to be sec. of the interior. Whatever he is asked I’m confident he will be excellent.
A mudpuppie from the last thread suggested we call the FRREECS American Taliban and I think that is completely appropriate! Obama is trying his best to welcome the repubs into the fold, but the FRREEC’s like Barbie, michelle malkin et al. aka American Taliban will never fall into the fold! That is why the repubs will have to split into a third party to accommodate the FRREECs aka American Taliban. This will be better for us, to keep a eye one them…

7 11 2008
snowbelle

C.Rock

Exactly! Obama won in part on the idea of changing the whole tone of politics — trying to work our way back toward real political discourse rather than red-team/blue-team battle. I think having a very strong Dem as his point man (assuming Rahm is on board for a little bipartisan dialogue) will set him up for real EFFECTIVE change.

I know I’m ready!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Paul Begala was on Larry King and when asked whether there would be something for McCain- he really hemmed and hawed and avoiding saying – no – outright. Maybe an ambassadorship somewhere.

7 11 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Why is the media spinning Palin as the victim, and what the McCain camp is doing to her will only benefit her?

Joe S. (can’t remember the spelling of his last name) on Morning Joe said the Dems were doing this! He is a liar!

The media wants to keep their stories interesting so we can continue to watch this crap! I really hope people don’t buy in to feeling sorry for her! She didn’t have to accept the opportunity to run with McCain as VP!

7 11 2008
portland oregon native

For 3 days I have awakened with a smile on my face and the thought, “OMG Barack Obama really IS the President -elect”.
Looks like the lower PNW mudpuppies are ging to get together soon. I am already getting emails.
This is such a great place to be.
Thanks everyone.
The pundits and the repugs and the 24/7 news stations are making me tired trying to stir up controversy where there is none just to fill the void.
Back later on.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ Let’sGetReal for “That One”

I agree. She didn’t have to accept, but what made her accept – her ignorance and blind ambition – were exactly what made her unfit for the job and what normally would have been discovered with proper vetting. I think that McCain needs some bashing from his own party, too, for having chosen her. She is being bashed for her ignorance and her blind ambition, which she is totally responsible for, though you could argue that her lack of education both on issues and general knowledge as well as her backwater, “hillbilly” ways, are these really her fault?

7 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Mornin’ Muddies.

Palin is still hiding behind her kids. A TV host commented (a tiney bit snidely) on the fact yesterday. OK. We get it. Palin is a mom. And never before has any PARENT run for or held public office.

Did ya’ll hear Richard Vigory (hard right religious conservative who LOVED the Palin VP pick) comment on The Ed Schultz Radio Show that Palin needs to go home and study?!?!?

7 11 2008
Grammy a/k/a WE ARE BLUE PA

Sometimes I long for the days when they played the national anthem and put on the test pattern at midnight and the news went to sleep for a few hours. The 24/7 news programs have to fill all those hours and if there isn’t real news out there, they will make some up or create a controversey so they can sit around and discuss it ad nauseum . . .

7 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Good morning, mudpuppies, from the great Blue state of Colorado-
(I love saying blue)

Just read ADN; they have an editorial on the Personnel Board’s acquittal of Princess Palin (not the right word, but my brain is not fired up yet).

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/581487.html

Basically adn editorial board concludes the report is a big moose turd, and infer that the Legislature should do something when they convene in Jan.

re: Emanuel- he’s very experienced, savvy in the ways of Congress and DC, plus he is not a yes-man; he’ll definitely be honest and pragmatic with Obama- a good balance.

I think the Repub confab in VA is just a few long-time governors/Congressmen to look at the state of the party now, and where to go from here (good luck with that). Neither McCain or Palin were invited, because they were the candidates. I don’t think any recent candidates were included.

Any news on Stevens and the fishy election?

I am off to work- it will be hard not to log on to a computer to check on the postings…I’m having mudflat withdrawl:(

7 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Viguerie, not Vigory

Spelling is not my “GRATEST” strength

7 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

I think it hilarius, the FRREEC’s AT’s that loved FOX news are now saying
b”Since two of my commenters have now posted links to the ridiculous Fox News story that makes Sarah Palin look like a brain-dead moron who’s barely smart enough to dress herself, let alone run for VP, let’s take a look at, gee, the actual facts.

A longtime aide to Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin is lashing back at anonymous critics within the McCain-Palin presidential campaign, telling ABC News they are attacking the former vice presidential candidate with distortions.”
Oh boy did someone stop dishing the FOX kool aid???
It is just unbelievable how stupid these people really are…and FOX news is really enjoying themselves…LOL!
http://www.yourish.com/2008/11/07/5580

7 11 2008
Chris

A president we can love and trust…now that’s a concept!! Sure feels good!

7 11 2008
SMR

In case you all did not get to see the joke I posted on another thread (that was soon buried under other threads), this one is particularly relevant to this post by AKM. Beautiful days ahead:

One sunny day in 2009 an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue , where he’d been sitting on a park bench.

He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, ‘I would like to go in and meet with President Bush.’

The Marine looked at the man and said, ‘Sir, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here.’

The old man said, ‘Okay’ and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, ‘I would like to go in and meet with President Bush.’

The Marine again told the man, ‘Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here.’

The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U. S. Marine, saying, ‘I would like to go in and meet with President Bush.’

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, ‘Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Bush. I’ve told you already that Mr. Bush is no longer the president and no longer resides here. Don’t you understand?’

The old man looked at the Marine and said, ‘Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.’

The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, ‘See you tomorrow!’

7 11 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

want to laugh? Go here: secureourdream.com

7 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Grammy a/k/a WE ARE BLUE PA (07:16:52) :

Sometimes I long for the days when they played the national anthem and put on the test pattern at midnight and the news went to sleep for a few hours. ++++++++++++++

Made for prioritization of the news.

Sometimes now the least thing becomes overblown—-the weeks spent on Anna Nicole Smith being a prime example in my mind. The economic crisis helped refocus the electorate on real issues this campaign. I am very very glad for some silver lining to the economic mess we are in.

7 11 2008
Lacy Lady

I too love my President elect Barack Obama. But he is not the first, but it has been a very very long time that I have said that. My first love was FDR!!!! I was sixteen when he died and I cried my heart out. The next love was JGK and again I cried my heart out. So now, I have my new love and his wife and family are just beautiful. I can’t wait to see the little girls with their new doggie.

7 11 2008
BigPete

The most damaging ‘story’ that has emerged about Palin, is that she refused to campaign with pro choice Republicans. The compact between the RNC and the Freecs is clear: the nuts get Scalia types on the Supreme Court and then they stay the hell out of the way.
With the Bush tax cuts for the rich ‘in play’, that Palin would forget her place is the UTMOST HERESY.

7 11 2008
CO Almost Native

crystalwolf-
First off, if you have read RFK’s book “Crimes against nature” you would know Bush & Co have completely gutted the EPA and have many so called “scientists” in their pocket who are probably screaming b/c their about to lost their jobs. And if anyone is so stupid to suppose to think mercury injected is NOT having a effect on kids or adults (thimerosal in vaccines) you must of had too many vaccines, already!

I have not read the book; yes, Bush and cronies did gut the EPA- they are frantically still doing it, before his term ends in Jan. I predict numerous lawsuits over animal protection, drilling near national parks, etc.

There have been many studies done looking for a connection between mercury in vaccines (it was eliminated years ago) and autism- none have found a connection. The newest research on causes of autism has found a connection between rainy areas of the country (Seattle, for example) and prevalence of cases- they don’t know why. There’s also research using MRIF (should be subset f, but my keyboard won’t do that)- looking for abnormalities in brain imaging- this seems promising.

Watch to see what happens to Lieberman- the Dems don’t need him now, and he probably won’t keep his chairmanship. Perhaps he’ll move to the dark side…

I really must go now-😦

7 11 2008
SMR

Re: Palin rallying the base ————-

The base didn’t need to be rallied, unless there was some fear that they wouldn’t vote at all. Those voters that Bible Spice appealed/appeals to would not have voted for Obama for love or money.

For some reason that totally escapes me, there are some former Hillary supporters out there that claim to support her, because she is a woman, of course. Never mind that she is against everything that Hillary supported & worked for, is basically the antithesis of Hillary. I figure that having the support of someone that supports Bible Spice solely because she’s a woman, even though she sets women back a zillion years, is not worth having!

So, she took away the votes of middle of the road republicans (like my husband & I), and brought a few crazy ladies to the table. The base was there, they were not going anywhere.

7 11 2008
Julie

For those interested, Sarah Palins most recent Bob and Mark radio interviews, November 6, 2008:

http://www.bobandmark.com/audio

7 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Okay, one last time (someone please turn off my computer so I don’t get in trouble)

Great perspective on Emanuel, from Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/07/emanuels-ex-boss-rahm-is_n_142084.html

7 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

Shannyn Moore on Huff Po
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/alaska-on-ebay-election-n_b_142021.html
“America, before you break up with Alaska, crown us with El Presidente Palin. Let the “Drill, Baby, Drill” chant become our new anthem. Know this: We need you. You need us. Progressive Alaskans are an endangered species, and should be treated as such. I am fighting for what seem to be Alaskan votes; but they are American votes. You need them. “

7 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

These are the BEST pictoral representations of the 2008 Presidential Vote

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/?map

7 11 2008
Emjay

@ Rapture Spenard Palin

I think you should have posted a warning with that. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

7 11 2008
Anonymous

Miemaw from Texas (06:14:34) :
AKM – your next assignment, should you choose to accept it.

Why do you reckon so many Republican knives are pointed at the bullseye, on your Governor’s back?

————————————————————-

Read something on DKos that speaks to this;
goes like this:

GOP is run by rich white folks for rich white folks but they don’t have the numbers so they pander to the Religious Right Wing Nuts.

If they ever give the RRWNs what they promise them, such as Anti gay, anti abortion, anti every other religion legislation, the RRWNs won’t bother to come out and vote.

SP is a RRWN and will give them what they want thus undermining the GOP vote.

Therefore SP must be destroyed.

Simple really.

7 11 2008
Anonymous

I’m not anonymous!! I’m Epic!! Wassgoingon?!!

7 11 2008
crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl

secureourdream.com
OMG! JTP, get JTP news, newsletter, sign up for his book, blah,blah,blah, JTP newsletter…OMG! PLEASE TELL ME AMERICA IS NOT THAT STUPID?

7 11 2008
Enchanted and Healing

SMR (07:26:17) :

Sorry I missed this in the earlier post, but thanks for planting a big ol’ smile on my face for the day! 🙂

7 11 2008
Anonymous

Anyway. It should be Anonymoose IMHO

7 11 2008
Enchanted and Healing

crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl (07:47:15) :

OMFG is RIGHT! (and sadly, I DO think there are enough stoopid peeps that will buy into this BS! Methinks a whole lot of stopped up toilets will remain that way in Ohio!! Our good ol’ boy Joe is cashing in on his American Dream! Ugh!

7 11 2008
More Light than Heat

I really appreciate the additional info on Rahm Emanuel. It confirms my own throughts and articulates them better than I did because you’ve added detail that I was missing.

7 11 2008
Regi

Unfortunately the time to cry foul and go after people was two years ago and Pelosi blocked any attempt to impeach Bush. I don’t want Obama’s administration to be spent hunting these people down. It should’ve be done on Bush’s dime and time. Good luck getting a conviction for anything but the blatantly obvious and even that’s would be a drawn out mini war.

7 11 2008
More Light than Heat

I need a translation for FRREEC, please… Was away most of the past 2 days and the house is screaming too loud for me to go back and research previous threads… thx

7 11 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

FRREEC = Fundamentalist Religious Right Evangelical Extremeist Christians

I think

7 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

More Light than Heat (08:05:19) :
FRREEC

That information was on AKM’s
Author of TheoPalinism on KUDO Today!
recent post.

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

SMR – I love that joke!!! Anonymoose, dear, you can try writing Epic in the name field again… or Anonymoose, that has appeal!

7 11 2008
Road Runner

Mudflatters, check this out. This guy in soloing to Antartica, expecting to arrive the after Christmas. You can sign up for news on his blog as he treks to the South Pole.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-carmichael/a-landslide-victory-for-o_b_141955.html

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

I know this was posted a bit further up, but I’m going to post it again because vicious little me enjoyed reading it so much…

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/581487.html

“Myopic perspective” indeed…

7 11 2008
Ripley in CT

AKM, Honey, Change is HERE!!!!

7 11 2008
Road Runner

Regi (07:57:01)
I agree Regi. Let the rest of the world go after him for war crimes. There are enough countries he won’t be able to visit, just like the other one(the one that Palin oh-12 met on her around the world tour in one day) from Nixon administration. Their are countries who already said they will arrest him. It may not happen, but it’s good to know. He’s not one to travel outside the US. Being the President was the only way he traveled outside the country.

7 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I just found out a cool little tidbit..

My wife got an internal email explaining that the new barricades and increased DC police presense is because our new President will have his transistion team located right next door!!

I just thought it was pretty cool that she’s next door to the office that will be framing his transistion before becoming president on Jan 20..! Wonder if she’ll get to meet Obama during that time.. !🙂

7 11 2008
Road Runner

GUYS AND GALS!!!

Just in case you didn’t see this on another thread, here’s the new site from the office of the President-elect. Notice you can aill out a job application.
http://www.change.gov

7 11 2008
Lulu

Oh, Marty! I hope your wife does get to meet Obama. Wouldn’t that be amazing!

Wish I could come to the great DCMudflatters meeting in January. Alas, won’t be in the area then (am now but not then).

@A Brit Abroad, thanks for reposting that ADN link. VERY INTERESTING read….I DID enjoy it.🙂

7 11 2008
megacephalus

KOS is “nailin’ palin”: .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUD7r6ke–0

enjoy!

7 11 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Not that I believe ABC News much ~~ too many quoted talking points and virtually no investigative journalism

“” Asked about the Fox report that she did not know the NAFTA members or that Africa was a continent, Palin said, “If they’re an unnamed source, that says it all. I won’t comment on anyone’s gossip based on anonymous sources. That’s kind of a small of a bitter type of person who anonymously would charge that I didn’t know an answer to a question. So, until I know who’s talking about it, I won’t have a comment on a false allegation.”
~~~~
Sounds like she wants NAMES for direct rebuttal – guess that “unnamed source” business didn’t apply in her Journalism courses.

7 11 2008
ocliberal

akm: Great blog (as usual) I too love my President Elect. The last President I really feel 100% good about was Jimmy Carter. I admired Clinton as a President but was very dismayed by the baggage and problems he brought along as a result of his ‘roving eye’.

I also love, like you, that we will have an administration that is committed to improving our country not destroying it. I think many of us are still in wonderment as we realize the magnitude of what it means to have a President who is BY the people and FOR the people. We can finally get our country and government back from the thieves and liars! Amazing times.

I’ve been entertaining myself watching some Onion videos.

Here is one I think we can all relate to… Obama Campaign Withdrawals

http://www.theonion.com/content//node/89632?utm_source=embedded_video_2

And for the CST time challenged (like myself) Obama’s press conference is on at 11:30 am PST.

A little newspaper story. My boss decided he wanted to get a copy of the OC Register from Wed. The OC Register is a very right-wing conservative newspaper but they did have a very impressive O-Bama Victory picture on the front page. (For the record, I’ve save two newspaper in my life – one when the Angels one the World’s Series and Wednesday’s paper) My boss went to about 4or 5 7-11’s and liquor stores and they had all completely sold up within hours. He finally called up the Register. They told him they had printed up 14,000 extra copies and were giving them away one at a time. When he called they told him they had about 20 left. He jumped in his car and drove down there immediately. When he got there, there were 5 left, but he got one. it was his birthday yesterday too and he told me it was the best birthday present he had ever rec’d for himself. He BTW was a staunch Republican until 2004 at which time he became a rather rabid Democrat and spend thousands of dollars fighting Bush. He formed an email group of over 1000 people where he exposed the lies of the Iraq War over and over and over again. In the process he alienated clients and associates but he was so outraged by the lies and manipulations of the Bush Administration he felt he had no choice.

I have of course always been a staunch Liberal. It was nice to get him on our side and Wed. was a very sweet day at my place of work. (Except for a couple of fundies who work for us, but I think they were so happy about Prop 8 they didn’t care – ugh…)

7 11 2008
mickeymusing

Bev (02:56:34),

I agree with you on Emmanuel. He is an interesting guy. I actually can understand why the right is afraid/disappointed, but he seems less overtly partisan to me than simply someone who does not put up with BS–regardless of where it comes from. He managed to tick off plenty of dems in Congress, too, but he got things done. Personally, I would not want to work for the guy. His intensity is exhausting. As a citizen, though, I am so glad we will have people like him and the president-elect in charge who know how to govern and who will crack the whip to accomplish their goals. My son read a biography about Emmanuel and pointed out that his brothers are equally successful and motivated–one is a Hollywood agent and the basis for the character Ari in Entourage and the other is the top medical ethicist in the country.

Joe Klein at Time mag had an interesting perspective on his appointment. Emmanuel is a modern Orthodox Jew and Obama’s selection of him immediately calmed the fears of the Jewish community in America about Obama’s intentions in the Middle East–Obama just increased his base of support with a single appointment. There will be plenty of complaints about Obama’s selections–some probably valid–but these are very smart people. I’m guessing everything Obama does has been well thought out and is deliberate.

I’m not a huge fan of Larry Summers (on financial transition team and possible pick for Treasury Sec) either, but feel like we have to trust the new administration and assume Obama and his advisers know what they’re doing until we see otherwise. The right is attacking big time already–no surprise there–and the MSM is sure to follow.

7 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Lulu, you’re in DC now? whatchoo doin here? IT’s so nice here now.. great fall weather!

7 11 2008
megacephalus

OMG! If you’ve not yet visited .change.gov GO THERE and surf about and take pride and interest in what’s coming that YOU made possible! YES WE CAN

7 11 2008
Whiskey Otter

I completely understand how you feel. I feel like, for once, I will actually be able to trust our government. For once, they will truly be looking out for everyone’s best interest, not just corporate America’s best interests.

I’m also pleased that the Bush administration is taking the transition seriously and seems like they will work hard to do the right thing. Nothing Bush has ever done has made me happy, so that’s a first!

7 11 2008
mickeymusing

So are you guys buying the most recent rumors about Palin–that she didn’t know who the parties to NAFTA were and that Africa was a continent? I think she’s not a very nice person and she ticked off McCain’s people, but for God’s sake the woman DID manage to graduate college and get elected governor. It just seems too ridiculous to be true that she could be this dim. Do you think this is an over-the-top hatchet job or the real thing?

In any case, we dodged a HUGE bullet here. Newsweek’s last installment of their campaign overview says that Palin refused to appear on stage with two Republican politicians in New Hampshire because they were pro-choice. The McCain people were livid and ordered her to appear on stage with the hosts no matter what at her next rally. She is scarily extreme and I’m guessing she’s going to be pushing her conservative bona fides in Alaska to solidify her standing with the rabid base. You guys up there will have your hands full. Gone are the days of reasonable legislative initiatives with Mrs. Palin. Yikes!

7 11 2008
Political Amazon

About RFK Jr for head of EPA:

I suggest we trust in Obama’s judgment. I heard/read so many criticizing Obama’s approach to his campaign, only having to admit later that it was the right.

We don’t know what Obama’s grand plan is, so to criticize his decisions along the way is really criticizing from a place of being uninformed.

I think that, with Emmanuel in charge, RFK will stay on Obama’s program and agenda. That is the brilliance of the Emmanuel choice–he is a strong and powerful leader in his own right, and has the experience to implement Obama’s vision.

About RFK not being a scientist:

I don’t believe being a scientst is as important as a strong working background in enviornmental issues. RFK knows the players, the rulings, etc. He also carries a lot of gravitas. The EPA is all about environmental law. I think a strong environmental lawyer is imperative for leadership of the EPA.

About RFK’s stance on autism and vaccines:

I’m not aware of any studies –FROM PERSONS OR GROUPs NOT beholding in some way to the pharmaceutical companies who profit from vaccines– which prove that vaccines are not a player in autism.

I think autism is a complicated disease process which is not completely understood, but I don’t think there is evidence to indcate that vaccines do not play a role in the manifestation of autism.

7 11 2008
ira2

What I would like to see is some advice on how someone like me can help “make it happen”. I don’t have any particular skills, I’m mentally not up to snuff, physically a bit of a wreck, too poor to donate funds, more or less stuck at home (out in the boonies) – not to mention I’m not even a citizen. I refuse to believe that there’s NOTHING I can do… but so far, I haven’t come across anything at all that would give me any ideas in that respect.

Maybe the best I can do is to continue what I’ve been aiming for so far – be the least drag possible on the world around me. But somehow that seems so – hm, insufficient now.

Anybody got any ideas or links to share to get me on a better track with this?

7 11 2008
Irish in FL

I just heard on an MSNBC video that the RNC is sending a couple of lawyers to Alaksa to “collect” any things she still has from her shopping spree….it’ll be interesting to see how much they can “find” to collect!!!!!!!

7 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

CO Almost Native (07:32:09) :

There have been many studies done looking for a connection between mercury in vaccines (it was eliminated years ago) and autism- none have found a connection. The newest research on causes of autism has found a connection between rainy areas of the country (Seattle, for example) and prevalence of cases- they don’t know why. There’s also research using MRIF (should be subset f, but my keyboard won’t do that)- looking for abnormalities in brain imaging- this seems promising.
————————————————————
This has nothing to do with vaccines but more a side bar. I have an aunt who was diagnosed with Multiple sclorosis (did I spell that right?) in 1965 she is a tough one and though she became more impaired over the years is now 74. In 1995 a doctor at the university of Washington began a study about a link between mecury fillings and her disease, she and her daughter who also had been diagnosed shortly before that became canididates for his study based on the fact there were two members in the same family with the same disease. Over time they had all their silver fillings removed and replaced. Fast forward to present my cousin now shows no sign of the disease, has recovered the motor skills she lost and has had no further problems. My aunt who had begun having problems much earlier recovered a small amount of her motor skills and can walk 20 feet on her own where before she couldn’t do this. The conclusion is some people are more sensitive to mecury and probably other pollutants. Not all cases of multiple sclrosis are caused by this the final syudy came up with 20% saw some improvement.

7 11 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

sorry about sending you unprepared to Joe the Plumber. lol. I just had to share.

Once again, with disclaimer that you might throw up a little in your mouth.

http://secureourdream.com/index.html

7 11 2008
antsy

megacephalus — So cool is right. We now have a national blog.

I can’t believe the repubs. They tried to order Barack Obama around before the elections, telling him who to repute, where he should go. They are still trying that — squawking about his appointments. The people have confidence in him — he will make the right choices. I’m pretty liberal, but don’t even care if he steers down the middle of the road.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ mickeymusing (08:41:32) :

I LIKE your RE description: “… he seems less overtly partisan to me than simply someone who does not put up with BS–regardless of where it comes from. He managed to tick off plenty of … [insert your own least favorite]…”

so goes this ‘curmudgeon’ too, even got me ‘banned ‘here once! Mark of Pride!🙂

“…the right is afraid…” WELL said! A ‘Bad Cop’ to OHB’s ‘Good Cop’.

Gives BHO a LOT more ‘room’ to maneuver, without SEEMING overtly partisan.

7 11 2008
Whiskey Otter

By the way, mercury (Thimerosal) is still in flu vaccines. Non-mercury preserved (i.e. trace amounts of mercury) flu vaccine is available in limited quantities for infants.

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

@ enjay AKA Turbine Yukon (08:38:44) :
I heard her say that, so it’s genuine – it was when she arrived back at the airport in Alaska and was being interviewed, the night AKM nearly lost her toes. Will see if I can find it and post it somewhere. Made me go “huh”???

7 11 2008
Political Amazon

mickey:

[[[So are you guys buying the most recent rumors about Palin–that she didn’t know who the parties to NAFTA were and that Africa was a continent? I think she’s not a very nice person and she ticked off McCain’s people, but for God’s sake the woman DID manage to graduate college and get elected governor. It just seems too ridiculous to be true that she could be this dim. Do you think this is an over-the-top hatchet job or the real thing?

In any case, we dodged a HUGE bullet here. Newsweek’s last installment of their campaign overview says that Palin refused to appear on stage with two Republican politicians in New Hampshire because they were pro-choice. The McCain people were livid and ordered her to appear on stage with the hosts no matter what at her next rally. She is scarily extreme and I’m guessing she’s going to be pushing her conservative bona fides in Alaska to solidify her standing with the rabid base. You guys up there will have your hands full. Gone are the days of reasonable legislative initiatives with Mrs. Palin. Yikes]]]

I don’t see anything in Sarah Palin’s actions or background which indicate that she would know that Africa is a continent. The Palinites are spinning this as being solely from the McCain campaign, but others who have worked with her have indicated a strong and arrogant lack of education, and a complete lack of curiosity in anything that doesn’t have to do with her own immediate gratification.

She has yet to refute any criticism, but has sought to impugn the source by demonizing “anonymous” sources.

Doesn’t matter who the source is. Either they are correct or not. Her using the source as a reason to not state the truth–one way or the other–IMO indicates that she cannot refute the criticism.

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ ira2 (08:52:23) :

seems if you have the writing skills we see here there are many options to donate ‘at a distance’ your skills!

7 11 2008
kathy in Austin

I just remembered, Obama will get to recommend one? two? three? Supreme Court Justices. This good feeling is going to last a long time…. no Christmas presents needed for me this year. Mine came early.

7 11 2008
West Virginian

I also LOVE our President Elect! I really feel as if he is wisely making decisions and choosing carefully who will help him. It’s just unbelievable to me how happy I am and how involved I have been. I have never felt this hopeful for our country before. I’m so glad to see so many others feel the same way as my hubby thinks I’m over the edge.

I too need to really start some housework and stay off the computer so much. I think my hubby’s had enough of that too. Christmas is coming and with 9 grandchildren I have a lot of shopping to do!

My Republican husband (who I must add voted Obama!) keeps saying “checks and balances”. That must be a Republican thing.

I pray for President Elect Obama’s safety.

7 11 2008
Democrat G (formerly "G")

Rapture Spenard Palin
After Stevens was found guilty of taking gifts and getting free renovations on his home – I guess we can assume that She will be under investigation very soon for the same things? I mean, I know this has been discussed over and over again so many times, but geez! every time I see something else about the home + the sports center a fuse blows in my brain.

Jamie, Floridian in France

I am with Rapture Spenard Palin. She has done so much that is so horrible, I won’t rest until she is taken back down to where she started!

I AM WITH JAMIE AND RAPTURE! I WILL DO MY BEST TO MAKE SURE SARAH PALIN IS LIVING IN A SHACK ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF ALASKA WITH NO CONNECTION TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD.

7 11 2008
ira2

megacephalus (08:58:36) :

@ ira2 (08:52:23) :

seems if you have the writing skills we see here there are many options to donate ‘at a distance’ your skills!

Details, please? Of the options?

7 11 2008
Whiskey Otter

There’s a movement afoot to revoke the tax exept status of the Mormon political action committee, er, I mean, church. In large part due to them, Prop 8 passed in CA, revoking civil rights from gay couples.

http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2008/Nov/06/lets_give_those_mormons_a_run_for_their_money

Remember:
When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn’t a Jew.

When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

7 11 2008
Political Amazon

Antsy:
[[[I can’t believe the repubs. They tried to order Barack Obama around before the elections, telling him who to repute, where he should go. They are still trying that — squawking about his appointments. The people have confidence in him — he will make the right choices. I’m pretty liberal, but don’t even care if he steers down the middle of the road.]]]

ITA. One of Obama’s qualities in leadership that I especially appreciate is that, when someone (politician, opponent, whatever) orders him to do something, he doesn’t even acknowledge the order, but just goes on doing what he had planned to do before the order.

THe Clintons failed to learn this, and didn’t realize that it was not a good reflection on them to order Obama around like he was less than they were, and like they had a right to tell him what to do.

I think the Republicans have a lot to learn if they think that telling Obama what to do is going to do anything but make their own lives more difficult.

7 11 2008
Grammy a/k/a WE ARE BLUE PA

Democrat G

Maybe a nice tent on Big Diomede Island where she can pretend she’s a bag lady when the stuff floats over from Little Diomede . . .

7 11 2008
ocliberal

I don’t think anyone made up the fact Palin didn’t have a clue Africa is a continent not a country. Afterall accusing someone of not knowing Africa was a continent is a pretty specific criticism. I can’t really believe someone would knowingly make that specific accusation without some pretty specific indicident to tie it back to. Add in to it the fact that Palin has yet to say, “Of course I know Africa is a continent! They are making up stuff to slander me.” makes me think there is such an incident that can be confirmed.

Her protest is very generic and very, very weak.

The real problem here isn’t that Palin is an ignoramus, it is that there are probably 30-35% of Americans who don’t think it’s a big deal what Palin knows or doesn’t know about Arica. There are probably even more who couldn’t name three countries in Africa and like Palin don’t think it’s important knowlege to waste their time on. I’m sure to her rabid base Africa is just a big landmass filled with black people and not even worth their time or consideration.

And what is even more scary is that her lack of knowlege isn’t the scariest thing about her. The scariest thing about Sarah Palin is her naked, unbridled, win-at-all-costs ambition. It is her willingness to say or do anything she has to, to advance HERSELF. Remeber her entire campaign against obama consisted entirely of repeating lies over and over and over and over. To this day, none of us really know for certain what Palin’s true ideology is. She hasn’t had to defend her pastor to the public. She hasn’t had to explain her position on abortion or gay rights. She hasn’t had to defend her spouse against claims of anti-patriotism. She hadn’t had to explain her education. She hasn’t had to defend her job choices.

7 11 2008
Lulu

@Marty,
My work brings me to D.C. frequently, but not during the Inaug.😦

7 11 2008
Political Amazon

[[[I just heard on an MSNBC video that the RNC is sending a couple of lawyers to Alaksa to “collect” any things she still has from her shopping spree….it’ll be interesting to see how much they can “find” to collect!!!!!!!]]]

I think, if the McCains are smart, they will count the silverware before the lawyer sign off on Palin’s “aquisitions.”

7 11 2008
pvazwindy

OCLIBERAL- Good post couldn’t agree more, especially last paragraph.

7 11 2008
whabs

Whiskey Otter (09:15:21) :
Yesterday I was SO mad that “First they came” kept running through my head. I am glad someone else out there thought the same thing as I did. I’m so ticked off I could spit nails.
It is the same old…two steps forward one step back. It takes the glow off of things for me. Until the people I love have the same rights as you and I have, we have failed them miserably.
I signed that damn petition. I’d like to deliver it by hand, but I fear my method may not be ethical.

7 11 2008
ds55

About the missing clothes… The total estimated value of any clothes not returned will have to be reported as income on Sarah Palin’s 2008 taxes.

7 11 2008
Lulu

@OC liberal wrote: ” It is her willingness to say or do anything she has to, to advance HERSELF. Remeber her entire campaign against obama consisted entirely of repeating lies over and over and over and over. To this day, none of us really know for certain what Palin’s true ideology is. She hasn’t had to defend her pastor to the public. She hasn’t had to explain her position on abortion or gay rights. She hasn’t had to defend her spouse against claims of anti-patriotism. She hadn’t had to explain her education. She hasn’t had to defend her job choices.”

AMEN, OC lib! I have never seen a candidate so proud to know nothing and so ambitious at the same time. She still seems to me to be the AIP/Fundie
“Manchurian Candidate/Handmaiden.” (Margaret Atwood, I think you’re a genius!)

But I do think they’ve blown her cover now (as was said on another thread here yesterday…was it UK Lady who I am quoting with this?). And thus, her infiltration on the nat’l scene is totally blown, because she was rolled out before she was “ready.” (Question for anyone here: Is Kristol in league with the Dobson-fundie-rapture axis, or just the neocons?)

Now, look at all the people who will never trust Palin again. 59%? Probably more than that after the recording of the Sarkozy prank…and the loss of the election.

7 11 2008
ds55

Funny flashbacks: Hillary hinting that Obama would be her VP.

7 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

MSNBC has been cutting back and forth to Obama’s podium for his first press conference. Made me think if Grumpy had won, and how much different everything, i mean everything would feel right now. And the thought of his scritchy voice, that tumor deformed face, his sneaky eyes and those thumbs, god the thought of that image for 4 years could be enough to make people jump off bridges or turn on the car in the garage and go to sleep.

His air quotes, his Penguin-like laugh, his petrifed arms, his combover, it’s just everything about him makes one want to puke.

And as horrid as Bush has been, he wasn’t even close to the repulsiveness of McCain, the coward.

Everyone stop what you’re doing for 10 seconds and simply say ‘thank god, it’s obama and not mccain’ then go back to whatever you’re doing.

There are so many uneducated, racist, evil Americans that tend to screw things up all the time. For once, we got one right..!🙂 During the election, what was amazing me early on, was how many people couldn’t see it and the vote counts for mccain went into the millions then 10’s of millions and I asked myself again, am I wrong or are there so many people who simply can’t see what’s so obvious. Then, finally, as if it was a terrible tease, the votes started moving and Obama slowly started pulling ahead until it was over and we collectively had a huge sigh of relief. Imagine if NOAA was monitoring the weather patterns. For 10 seconds, my guess is the 65 million people who voted for obama all did it at once and the weather changed for that brief moment.

Ok,, back to work..!

7 11 2008
whabs

WOW! Fashback here too if Grumpy had won.
It would have been a dark day .
I would have called a crisis line someplace.
No one would have talked me down.

Amazing what a few good things can do to CHANGE a person’s life.

7 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Lulu, if you’re in DC, cruise around The Verizon Center and you’ll see where Obama’s moving to.. one block east.. ! Can’t miss it apparently as the cops won’t be hard to notice..!

Email me at the mudstock address and i’ll buy ya a drink sometime im in town when you are!

7 11 2008
SMR

Here’s a nice uplifting editorial for you all:

http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/title/

I must make a pledge to read only positive news for a while…

7 11 2008
megacephalus

@ whabs (09:37:50) :

if Grumpy and… had won, I would have returned my US passport and taken out ‘Naturalized’ German [EU] citizenship… [as my father did when he immigrated to the US from Canada]

7 11 2008
Mollys Mum

@Political Amazon (08:52:11) :

……

I suggest we trust in Obama’s judgment. I heard/read so many criticizing Obama’s approach to his campaign, only having to admit later that it was the right.

We don’t know what Obama’s grand plan is, so to criticize his decisions along the way is really criticizing from a place of being uninformed.

_____________________________________________________________________

I am in TOTAL agreement with you here, Political Amazon. I am happy to say that Barack Obama makes me feel like a blithering idiot, and I therefore would not dream of questioning his judgment or decisions.

That said, taped up on my wall is an old, yellowing photo clipped from our local newspaper on September 13, 1993. It is one of my all-time favorite photos. It shows Yitzhak Rabin (one of my all-time favorite politicians) shaking hands with Yasir Arafat (one of my least favorite politicians), and Bill Clinton standing in the background. Come to find out it was Rahm Emanuel who orchestrated that photo op. :-))

And a tiny note of concern: I would applaud the appointment of Colin Powell to head up Americorps. Not so sure about Education….a military man? My husband is a professor, and I was once, and I’d rather see someone with more of a background in education itself in that position.

But whatever Obama decides, I am behind him 100%.

7 11 2008
Grammy in PA

Don’t know who to ask this of – it’s a question about Alaska law:

If Palin has to call a special election to replace ConvicTED, is it limited to Republican candidates only since that is the party holding the seat if he wins the election? If so, the seat will remain Repub and there is no chance for a Dem to win that seat.

A friend of mine in Anch said that he’s been hearing that a lot of people voted for Uncle Ted for that very reason so that the seat could not go to a Dem like it would if Begich wins the race – I am just curious if the special election is limited to the party of the person holding the seat . . . .

I’d also like it clarified that Palin would have to resign as Gov to run in that special election; and how many candidates can run for Ted’s seat??

7 11 2008
BigPete

@ ocliberal

Palin’s advantage was that as a VP candidate she got away with giving no press conferences. Even then. in her short time in the limelight, her disapproval ratings soared.
If she ‘wants back’, and not as a sidekick, she is facing two years worth of scrutiny…..including press conferences.

7 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Hey, Marty,

Re: Obama’s transition team office – what’s the address of the building?

My husband’s office is at 701 8th Street – right across from the Portrait Gallery.

That would be so cool to be able to get a glimpse of our new President!

On the down side, I just found out the Steve Schmidt lives a couple blocks away from me. It’s bad enough that I can see David Addington’s house through my window – now I learn McCain’s evil mastermind is in my hood too. Yuck. Well, at least our precinct voted OVERWHELMINGLY for Obama.

7 11 2008
HamletsMill

LETTERMAN TOP TEN REVELATION ON PALIN

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/07/lettermans-top-10-sarah-p_n_142082.html

Be vigilant and keep those stakes ready in Alaska! She must never be allowed to rise from the crypt to be a factor in U.S. national politics ever again. 63 million Americans said “GO BACK HOME”.NOW.AND STAY THERE!

7 11 2008
plwalsh

What I want to know is when they are finally going to dump Joe Lieberman out of the party.

The news stories say he actually wants to stay with the Democratic caucus. The Dem leadership says O.K. on voting with the caucus but no more big deal committee chairmanships. But Lieberman says he won’t give up his chairmanship. So there is some sort of an impass.

Just how much nonsense is the Democratic Party going to take from this guy? I say, out, out, out now!!

7 11 2008
plwalsh

As for Palin, I think it’s fine for her to remain prominent in that little bit of thing that is now the Republican Party, though the way things are going she might do better joining the Whigs, whose brand is not quite so damaged. I also think it would be good to have her on TV at regular intervals. It would remind the whole country of our narrow escape.

I always say keep the wingnuts in plain sight so we can keep track of what they are up to.

7 11 2008
upnorthMN (formerly hose Hussein hotrod)

katiebegood (06:05:49) :

One of the first things I would like to see Obama do, after appointing his cabinet, is to make sure that both Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are replaced in their leadership positions. Neither is competent. I just went to change.gov and left this idea under “American Moment”, “Share your vision”.
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Well, I wouldn’t go so far as to say they aren’t competent. But I agree that they don’t really fit into an idea of freshness and change. In addition, I find them both way too partisan and old school, no matter how many times they spout the word “bi-partisan”. I don’t think they will serve a change agenda very well.

UpnorthMN —-formerly hose Hussein hotrod….but laying down (with Chief Skicago) my middle name which has found it’s victory AND my Palin name which has lost its relevance.

7 11 2008
plwalsh

I’d give Pelosi and Reid another shot with a bigger majority before throwing them out. I had mostly good feelings about their agenda but the senate Republicans threw up road blocks to everything that didn’t cave in to Bush. I don’t think that tactic will work much longer.

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Okay – finally found at least the quote I was looking for about Palin’s respect for anonymous sources. I know I’ve seen the video somewhere, but it look as if they’ll publish it when people ask for it:

[http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/blog/24417]

You need to scroll down to below the first video to find the quote:

“If they’re an unnamed source, then that says it all. I won’t comment on anybody’s gossip, or allegations that are based on anonymous sources. That’s kind of a small, evidently bitter type of person who would anonymously charge something foolish like that, that I perhaps didn’t know an answer to a question.

“So until I know who was talking about it, I won’t have a comment on false allegations.”

7 11 2008
BigPete

@plwalsh

Lieberman is now threatening, through an aide, to caucus with the Republicans if he is stripped of his committee chairmanship. I agree with you…..he should be canned…..it’ll be easier to keep an eye on him, once he crosses to the other side.
Unfortunately Lieberman does not improve his personal standing with the Republicans either.

7 11 2008
SmallSteps in Blue VA (was Wrangler Tractor in VA)

to those of you who think maybe SP really does know Africa is a continent and not a country….I would have to say that IMHO that story is probably very true. I attended PSU back in the late ’80’s as a Poli Sci major. My roommate was a Social Work major and a really nice person. However, she was as dumb as my trashcan. I was shocked that she was in college. I had a world map on our shared dorm wall. She was surprised that I knew (at the time) almost every country in the world. Back in the old days when it was still the USSR instead of all those hard-to-pronounce “-stans” like today. One day I asked her if she could find country X and she gave me the deer in the headlights look. Being hunting season, I quickly said, let’s go for something easier to warm up with. Howabout, where is the continent of South America? She pointed to Africa!

So, we ended that geography quiz with me in shock that a college student was so uneducated and so unconcerned about her lack of knowledge that she just had no interest in intellectual pursuits. I have had the misfortune of knowing too many people like this in my time. It makes me weep for our humanity and our future. Then I see someone like Barack Obama, and I communicate on a blog like Mudflats and I have HOPE again.

Thank you Mudflats🙂

7 11 2008
Lita

I love your revelations AKM, as I was already starting to feel slight despondency as all the news stations bang on about how Obama now has to live up to his hype. Plenty have started to shake their heads like it’s too hard, and I have read some local blogs saying they don’t think any real change will come to the American people. So, I LOVE LOVE LOVE it when I read your realisations and the possibilities.

Thank you.

7 11 2008
RLS

NPR just gave a 5 minute warning on the start of the press conf. He is late….

7 11 2008
plwalsh

According to an aide quoted in Politico, Lieberman has said giving up his chairmanship is “unacceptable.” To which, the Dems should properly reply “tough sh*t.”

Lieberman is apparently none too popular with the Republicans either. He could end up as the senator without a party to run to. This is the classic fate of the turncoat, it seems to me— once you have turned coat once, no one trusts you not to turn coat again. Another one of those little Greek dramas within this election season. There is a similar example from the Persian wars.

7 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Good-bye, Dirk Kempthorne!!!

Department of Interior????

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

New thread! (for anyone still on this one…)

7 11 2008
Chris

Last week I had sent a quote from one of your posts to Obama, and told him to be sure to not forget what you all in Alaska have done for his campaign….I just got an “thank you” letter back!!!!! Hope you hear something as well…….thank you for this wonderful forum, and for all you’ve done!

7 11 2008
upnorthMN (formerly hose Hussein hotrod)

Does anyone else think Rick Sanchez is the best?? Smart, hot, funny, magnanimous. Yummy.

7 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

ira2 (08:52:23) :

What I would like to see is some advice on how someone like me can help “make it happen”.

I believe you are already helping, ira2, in what you are doing now.
You care, you write well and with honesty. I have come to look for
your posts and have saved several. You are helping now, just by
asking this question.
AKM has shown us the power of thinking, paying attention,
and speaking up.

7 11 2008
ThirtyFiveUp
7 11 2008
upnorthMN (formerly hose Hussein hotrod)

ira2 (08:52:23) :

What I would like to see is some advice on how someone like me can help “make it happen”. I don’t have any particular skills, I’m mentally not up to snuff, physically a bit of a wreck, too poor to donate funds, more or less stuck at home (out in the boonies) – not to mention I’m not even a citizen. I refuse to believe that there’s NOTHING I can do… but so far, I haven’t come across anything at all that would give me any ideas in that respect.
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Hi ira2—
What great questions. My first response is to say that I’ve always experienced you as one of the best writers and thinkers on this blog. You have a way with words (and humor!) that would—if you can figure out how to use on President Obama’s behalf— be precious to his efforts and to making a difference. I’m a bit of a home body by choice. I see my own role as similar to what might work for you. Staying vigilant, thinking things through, writing about them in a way that help bring the change we need, and getting those words out to others (whether by blogging, editorials, or correspondence related to specific issues). Unlike you, I can get out and do things that seem more like “deeds”…but let’s not diminish the power of words.

7 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

Feeling gleeful to see the GOP busy
counting their spoons… and frocks.🙂




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