Obama Victory Rally at “Mudflats Point”, Grant Park, Chicago.

6 11 2008

Here is a great “on the scene” report sent in by roving reporter Mudflatter Chief Shikago!  What an exciting and historic moment for all of us, but particularly for those lucky ones to be live at the scene.  A huge shout out, and thank you to Chief Shikago for sharing his story.  It makes all of us feel a little bit like we were there too, especially with that great Mudflats sign and Alaska State Flag on site!

 

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Obama Victory Rally at Mudflats Point, Grant Park, Chicago

 

After just 3 hours of sleep, (a regular occurrence leading up to today)  I jumped up at 6am and had my usual 3 cups of coffee while reading Mudflats on my cell and watching MSNBC. I contemplated my mission, 1st Meeting Lurker Liz from Mudstock II for lunch near the Board of Trade. 2nd to get myself, a couple of bags, 2 signs and 9 balloons through what was being called heavy security at Grant Park. Because of the restrictions, I opted to leave my beach cart and folding bag chair home, choosing instead an old airline blanket and tired muscles to move the load downtown. As tired as I felt, I opted to drive rather than taking the train.

 

I made it to the Grant Park garage in record time. Did some final packing and rechecking my camera gear. I grabbed my signs and balloons and started to hike toward Jackson and LaSalle where I met up with Liz. I felt blessed she was willing to meet up with this off the wall radical socialist Hussein supporter again. We had an outstanding lunch. Conversation circled around Mudflats and my sad (at times) existence. Liz is a lovely person and a great listener, as I did most of the talking. We hugged good-bye and promised to see each other again. I set a course for Grant Park at Congress.

When I arrived in line I was amazed that there were only about 200 people in front of me. 2 lines stretched out from Congress at Michigan Avenue. I was in the North side line, for those that didn’t have tickets to the inner stage area. During the wait I enjoyed the company of a mother who had just flown in from Kentucky for the rally, and a gentlemen from Evanston, a suburb of Chicago. I saw a guy who looked like Joe the Plumber, but, he was holding a sign that simply said; TX for OBAMA. Several international journalists stopped to ask us questions, as they worked the lines. It seemed like my balloons were very popular with the photographers as no fewer then 70 photos were taken of them, though the guy with the life size cut-out of Barack won the day.

A high point for me during the 4 hour wait was seeing Ronnie Wo Wo. I have met him once before.  Ronnie is a famous local Chicago Cubs fan who is at every homegame, and is known for his trademark “Wo Wo” sound. So after securing my place in line, I ran out to Ronnie and said; “Ronnie I have to get a photo of us for Mudflats!”, “cool” was all he said. Carolina Procter, of the post tribune sums up Ronnie best, “If Ernie Banks is Mr. Cub, then Ronnie “Woo Woo” Wickers is Mr. Cub Fan”. A disadvantage to being in line for hours was that all the cities Port-O-Johnnies were inside of the park not out on Michigan Avenue.

 

Finally the line began moving. At security I had to empty my bags. That’s when it was discovered I was trying to smuggle in about 5 pounds of assorted candy. With some “Like you’re really weird mister” looks, I made it inside. Now for the final push to the Northeast corner of the park, just another 4 blocks. I selected a location I thought might be good with equal distance between a monster Jumbotron and those johns I missed while in line.

 

I immediately took out my packing tape and secured the Alaskan Flag and my Mudflats sign to a light pole. Unpacked my camera a shot a photo of Wolf Blitzer speaking on CNN. Then I realized I needed to raise the signs higher just above head level. I spent the next hour untangling my helium balloons.

 

‘Bec Hussein of Illinois’ had printed business cards with the Mudflats web address on them, just in case anyone asked about us Mudflats at Mudstock II on Sunday. I had the 4 she gave me in my pocket and I could have used 50! A continuous stream of people asked me questions about Mudflats and Alaskan politics in general, thankfully I have done a little reading up on the subject thanks to AKM and all of you. The best question came from a Chinese national student in Chicago for studies who I spent and hour visiting with. With a Mudflats card in his hand, my e-mail addy penned on the back, he said, in his best english; “Why you care about Alaska politics” to which I replied “Just because it is a different state does not mean we shouldn’t care about what happens there”, and I explained that “When Alaska’s Governor was thrusted into our nations presidential race it’s only natural that we would want to learn more about that individual” I went into further detail using the civil rights movement as an example of how what happens in a state far away can effect us all. It was interesting to get his take on the possibility of real freedom coming to China, which is, he said, only prevented today by the “Old men”. HHhhmmmm I thought of the Republican party at that point.

 

I finally finished the detangling process and at once tried to launch a 3 inch in diameter Obama sunrise, no luck, I tried again with 3 balloons and almost no ribbon, but it was of no use, too much time had passed and too much helium had escaped since I purchased them the night before. With a slight pain in my heart I put them out of there misery and placed them in the trash can. I grew ever frustrated around 8pm with my AT&T cell service which would not give me a signal cutting me off from my Mudflats posting plans.

 

By now there was barely room to sit with my legs folded. I had a continuous plastic bowl full of candy that I would go around and offer my neighbors. When complemented on this practice I would simply say “This is what good people do”. Every time a state was announced for Obama we all went crazy, even Bashu from China, and a women sitting next to me from Portugal who had flown all the way to Chicago just to be there. It was when Virginia was given to Obama I shed my first tear. I thought of Virginia’s history in the slave trade and how far they’ve come. As each state came in our favor the croud went crazy. Then came the big announcement CNN is calling the election for Barack Obama. Screaming, hugging, jumping up and down it was like being and molecule of water that just reached boil. First 10, then 20, 30 minutes later and you still couldn’t hear yourself think, at some point I remember smelling pot in the air. No, not mine.

 

The crowd fell silent again, when John McCains face took over the Jumbotron. His exausted concession speech was well received with few boos and an occasional thumbs down. It was obvious to all he was a beaten man, more over by his own party, than Barack. When I saw McCain supporters leaving as he started his speech, I felt sorry for him.

 

Then shortly thereafter all of the Jumbotrons in Grant Park switched to Barack being introduced, all except ours at Mudflats Point. About 500 of us ran to a smaller set about a block away, (really bad view because it was crowded already) only to hear a few sentences and “Click” the Jumbotron at Mudflats Point came online with Barack, so it’s back we run. By this time you could hear a pindrop, and everyone would say, “yes we can”, after the President Elects lead. Recalling this today gives me goosebumps. It was an unbelieveable moment, it was OUR moment, and it was OUR time. Before I knew it, his words had ended, far too soon for me. As the music was playing and he and Joe Biden were preparing to leave the stage, I asked a stranger to take my picture at Mudflats Point. Afterward I turned and saluted the Alaskan flag and then donated the signs to the historical society of my mind, sadly I turned and joined the other half a million people to leave that sacred ground.

 

Seeing so many people filling the steets as we left was amazing. Just looking down Michigan Avenue I could see the entire population of Fairbanks before me. 60 people shoulder to shoulder wide. People were scrambling up everything and anything they could find to get to a better photo angle, I saw centerline dividers with 30 people balancing on them, trying not to get the person in front of them in their photo. During my hike to the Jeep this throng would spontaniously begin cheering again. I can still hear it, it’s the sound American’s make after hearing Lady Liberty herself, address our nation.

 

‘Chief Hussein Shikago’

In honor of the President Elect and with a mission accomplished spirit I will now been known as simply: ‘Chief Shikago’

 

(I am not a writer, so please forgive all of my grammatical errors.)

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200 responses

6 11 2008
The Messenger

Let’s get dressed for success.

http://www.dresslikepalin.com/

6 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Woo hoo, Skikago – I’m so glad you got to be there.

6 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Shikago- how wonderful! Amazing! I need to go back and read/look at the pics again. You were a part of history- thanks for sharing with us mudpuppies.

6 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Wonderful recap Chief —
Am very glad there were a few mudpuppies there to represent all the residents of MudFlats

6 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Shikago-

I was ready to head for bed, when I decided to check mudflats one more time- I’m so glad I did. Thanks, thanks.

6 11 2008
Redwood Man - Santa Cruz, CA

Wish I could have been there Shikago. Glad you were and told us about it.

6 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

I wish i were closer

6 11 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Skikago! Wonderful! Thank you so much – it brought it all back and I lost a tear or two!

6 11 2008
Jster

Thanks Shikago. I too was there but was fortunate enough to have tickets for myself and my 16 year old daughter. We got there quite late so ended up at the back of the crowd of 70,000 of our closest friends! We had a wonderful time! I was interested to see the photos of the crowd in the paper the next day because it really did not feel that massive. Everybody was so friendly and patient. No pushing or short tempers. No line cutting. Just nice people filled with a spirit that maybe they hadn’t felt in a while. AKM, if you’re collecting more pictures, I have a few to share.

Now, on to the hard work ahead for us all! Fired up! Ready to go!

6 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Sorry I’m missed responding to your email earlier, Shikago – I was finally getting a day’s work in today. But your account is beautiful and meaningful and you will always have this wonderful memory. I know you were thinking of your little astronaut throughout.

Lots of tears at my house Tuesday night – and they continue, every time I see a picture of Obama, or just think about this historical achievement and all the hope millions of people have around the world.

They are saying this might help us get the 2016 Olympics in Chicago. I’m ready to be an volunteer for that!

Thanks again — we’ll have to have another Mudstock Chicago gathering in the coming months. That’s great that you met up with Liz again!

6 11 2008
ira2

Oh wow!! This is cool!

6 11 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

Shikago,

I am so glad you were a part of this! I really am off to bed, as I wrote in the last thread, while you were all headed over here no doubt.

I just came from a Yuma County Democrats pizza party celebration. It was the Grants Park thing on a slightly smaller scale: about 20 people!

But a marvelous celebration.

I’ll read your story more carefully tomorrow.

6 11 2008
Jason in Oakland

Wish I could be there!

6 11 2008
eajphd Wolves Run Free

Great job!

6 11 2008
InJuneau

Chief Shikago–Thank you for representing the Mudflats so well! It looks like it was an amazing experience, and it’s so kind of you to have let us relive it vicariously.

6 11 2008
suchanut

Test, Test….wordpress logged me out. I thought I’d changed my nick….

6 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Now that the election is over
— I am ready for Brokaw to EXIT Meet the Press

Any preferances for new Anchor ?

6 11 2008
Lurker Liz

Chief Shikago,

Congratulations on a great write up of your event. You made me come out of lurking and send you a big congratulations on your Obama Rally Fest. To all Mudpuppies, we still have a lot of work to do in hopes of bringing disinfectant to our government representatives. Be involved, stay engaged and most importantly seek out your community. There are hundreds of citizens starved to reclaim our country and to have friends like you!

Thanks AKM & Shikago!

6 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Wow – they acted fast — here is South Park’s take already on Tuesday night!

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/

6 11 2008
suchanut

Enjay in Eastern MT (20:53:33) :

Can I nominate George Clooney? No? Hmmmm.

OK – how about Rachel Maddow?

(And I loved the dress too🙂 )

6 11 2008
2ebbandflow

Thanks for taking us along – the pulse of the crowd and your enthusiasm came through the narrative.

A little bit of Alaska in Chicago…

6 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

Chief Shikago!
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WOW….thank you for sharing…that was awsome…..you can almost feel being there..it is ncie to relive it again…….

6 11 2008
shikago

Dear Mudpups,

I went to this event by myself, but, I was not alone, for each and everyone of you were there with me. Thank you, your company was greatly appreciated.

Chief Shikago

6 11 2008
Bear Woman

Thank you for bringing Alaska to this wonderful event.

AKM thank you for bringing Alaska to this stage and showing that not al lof us are Palinbots…..

I am proud to be an Alaskan…. Even more proud of President-elect Obama!

Thank you Shikago for your efforts and reporting!

6 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Yeah Shikago!!

All of us are on 3-5 hours of sleep.

Glad I stayed up until 1 AM to see this.

We all thought about you Election Night. I was worried you might have needed one of those chips you put in Fluffy’s ear in case you got swept away by the crowd and couldn’t remember who you were in the utterly utt euphoria.

Bless you for shedding a tear for VA. All of us here were holding our collective breath. The numbers looked terrible until the northern part came in.

You must still be stunned to have been a part of history that has never been and never will be again.

6 11 2008
shikago

I have an early start tomorrow in 6 hours. So I’ll say good night to all.

Thank you so much for the compliments and comments, it was an honor and my pleasure to be a part of the Rally and Mudflats at the same time.

Oh wait…

STORY UPDATE:
I just recieved this e-mail from the Chinese student I spoke about in the story. Here is his e-mail…

Hi, Shikago,
I am too busy to write a formal letter. I just leave my best
regards and appreciate you for the warmful talks we have in the park
the day before yesterday. Best regards to you and your family.
Everhthing will be okey. God will bless your country and we can
realize dreams by hard working. This is my major email. I will visit
MUDFLATS after I handle all things in my hand now.
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And how Cool is that!!!

Oh so happy… Going to bed now with a big smile.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Chief Shikago –

Through your story I have relived that beautiful moment that I only got to see on tv. I have tears in my eyes again. You are lucky to have been there and you really deserved it. Thanks to people like you and AKM, the world is a smaller and kinder place. With an incredible new President!

Cheers, Chief!

6 11 2008
Dragon Lady

Fantastic email! You’ve got to send that with your story to the Obama website.

Goodnight all pups.

6 11 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Chief Shikago, I AM a writer, and you expressed it just beautifully. Thanks for being our eyes and ears at this historic event. Sweet dreams. You deserve them.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky Hussein

Grant Park – “The Moment”

Thanks for being there, Shikago.

We can change the world.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

crystalwolf a.k.a. caligrl, hey I saw that you were looking for me. I have been more in the forum since the election until last night when I switched back to the blog. Thanks for keeping an eye out. I am wiped out and still in disbelief. The whole thing has been surreal.

Michelle’s dress–loved it. A friend of mine said it looked like a widow’s dress. She did not like it at all. I guess either you love it or you hate it.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

P.S. Carrying this over from the last thread: I really liked Religulous by Bill Maher (my new spiritual advisor). He’s strident about being agnostic because our culture is so entrenched in religion. I have been accused of being too vocal about being proud of being Asian, and my response is that I have to be loud just to get any visibility. Any minority tends to be overly zealous about his/her position to counter the majority rule.

P.P.S. Ira2, you should kick that guy in the crotch and tell him to have Jesus heal THAT pain. I have little to no tolerance for people like that.

6 11 2008
Aurora

Inspiring, Shikago!

Thanks for so many vivid images (in words and photos)

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Hey asianHusein!

I guess you all are gonna be SOCIALISTS now! Nyah Nyah Nyah!

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Oops Sorry I meant asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Oh, and as much as I dislike Palin whom I think is stupid in the purely descriptive sense of the word, I don’t think what the McCain staffers are doing is right. They are throwing her to the wolves (hmmmm…..turnabout is fair play?) and refusing to see that John McCain is, in the end, responsible for naming her as his running mate. He sold his soul to the religious right, dragged many people through the mud, tried to do whatever he could to win, and now, people seem way too willing to give him credit for not playing the Wright card in the end. I think it’s because he had a crazy preacher of his own, not to mention Palin’s whackadoo religious buddies.

6 11 2008
shikago

Dragon Lady (21:10:26) :
I wished I had a laptop that evening. I still use a huge media system here at home. And I can usually post from my cell (not easy but possible), but after around 8pm it was like all the cell towers were no available until after midnight. I have never been with a nicer croud of people, walking, sitting, everyone was so cooperative it was great.

Early in the evening when CNN would show a partial states total, (all of us at Mudflats Point were sitting) and the people in front of us would jump to their feet screaming and clapping. But fairly quickly they would sit down so the rest of us could see the screen. At one point about 3 guys refused to sit back down and dozens of us were asking them to “sit down”. They did not. So snaky me said “You guys wouldn’t be republicans would you?” everybody laughed and they sat down immediately.

OK night…

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Bec Hussein in Chicago, I read that South Park had done that episode before the results and did not have a McCain winning version. That’s confidence for you.

Jamie, Floridian in France, bwahhahahahahaha! That was my evil plan all along! Now everybody will have healthcare! Oooooh, I am so evil….

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

P.S. I signed this petition to strip Joe the Traitor Lieberman of his chairmanship. You can sign, too:

liebermanmustgo.com

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Night, Chief Shikago! You dun good!

6 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

talking about the dress and the obama famly wearing black…they are still in mourning for Toot..what a bitter sweet moment

6 11 2008
shikago

@asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN
Hi Sunshine, I thought of you Tuesday, President Elect Barack Obama, now you can finally relax too! It’s such a great day… Ok I’m goin, I’m goin.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

mhrt oregon”steve”, I think you are right about that. What a majestic first family.

Chief Shikago, night, bro!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Oh, about W.’s dog biting the reporter–I have NO sympathy for the reporter. You do not just pet a strange animal’s head without holding your hand out first. I hope the dog didn’t get in too much trouble for it. Poor thing was just startled!

6 11 2008
ira2

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:28:23) :

[…]

P.P.S. Ira2, you should kick that guy in the crotch and tell him to have Jesus heal THAT pain. I have little to no tolerance for people like that.

Ohhh… he was like 76 back when this happened, and I had the hardest time finding a balance between “respecting my elders” and standing up for myself. I did kick him in the shin when he tried to kiss me though. YUCK. A dirty old man, saved and loved by Jesus who understands that he’s only human. Thank God I moved far, far away from there.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:34:33) :

Jamie, Floridian in France, bwahhahahahahaha! That was my evil plan all along! Now everybody will have healthcare! Oooooh, I am so evil….

Now THAT is the kind of evil we like!

And I agree, that is one awesome First Family! Even the Repug pundits are saying so. I would really love to work for That First Lady!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Ok, one more petition–this one to strip the Mormon church of its status as a religious organization (exempt from taxes) if they continue to use so much of their money to fund a political issue such as prop. H8.

http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com

I will let someone else post now.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, why is it that some of the most self-professed religious people are such predators? Probably repression. He definitely deserved a kick in the shin for trying to kiss you, and I would posit that he deserved a kick in the crotch for almost killing you. That’s not very Christianly.

Jamie, Floridian in France, my mom told me I should try to get a job working for Obama, and I agree with you. I would love to work for our First Lady-Elect. I would even babysit for her!

6 11 2008
ira2

Just thinking… I’m savoring this whole historic miracle a few nibbles at a time. Most uncharacteristic for gluttonous me, LOL! I got to listed to President-elect Obama’s speech via the phone (my sister and brother-in-something got it on streaming video on their highspeed connection), and now I’ve read Shikago’s report and seen some pictures, and at some point – hopefully soon – I think I’ll be able to watch the whole thing on DVD… it’s a good way to take it all in for someone who’s easily overwhelmed.

Beautiful.

6 11 2008
ira2

Mormons… ha. Don’t get me started on Mormons. Having lived where they rule, I am thoroughly postjudiced against Mormons.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, or you can do what I’ve done. I’ve stuffed myself with everything I can find about the election until I flatlined, and now, I am wiped out. Yeah, I have OC (obsessive-compulsive) tendencies, and the internet plays right into them.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:49:27) :

Last night I went on Obama’s new transition website for the first time and saw that you could “apply” for a job. I excitedly told my husband “Oh, we can apply for jobs working for the new administration!” and he said “Yeah, you and about 3000 other people!”. But hey, some of us’ll be picked. Don’t know if my resumé is worth anything, but hey, just keep saying to yourself “YES WE CAN!”

6 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

Amazing photos – wonderful tale-telling – thank you so much for the inside view of the greatest moment in human history:)

6 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

Huge congrats Shikago. I would have loved to be there with you.
Consider yourself to be part of history in the making. Thanks
for the wonderful pictures. BTW you are a pretty good writer.
Really liked your written picture of the event. I watched it all on
TV and I must say that I shed a considerable number of tears.
I didn’t write that did I? Grown men don’t become emotional,
do they?

6 11 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Jamie,
You have to find the Plum book and select the position you want. It is a requirement of the application.

6 11 2008
ira2

@ Deuce2 AL (21:56:08) :

LOL! Um, yes, they do. I’s allowed now :o)

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

ira2 and asiangrrl :

You can just look at the posts on mudflats and figure out which ones of us are obsessive-compulsive about the election…

I just looked at the photos of Palin’s wardrobe on HufPo and I observed 2 things:
1) she did really dress like trailer trash before the makeover. She really did need it, though I thought a lot of the stuff was not really appropriate no matter how beautiful (the above-the-knee skirts with the boots, for example).

2) she was wearing an awful lot of FOREIGN clothes. If your theme is Country First, shouldn’t you only wear American-made clothes and American Deisgners? Isn’t that what Michelle did?

6 11 2008
ira2

It’s, not I’s. Typo.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Hick Town in W PA (21:58:14) :

Jamie,
You have to find the Plum book and select the position you want. It is a requirement of the application.

What’s the Plum Book?

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Deuce2 AL, to me, a real man is someone who is authentic, which would include shedding tears. A real man puts Obama/Biden stickers on his car in yahoo country and stoically puts up with crap for it. A real man serves his country with honor. So, to me, you most certainly qualify.

Jamie, a Floridian in France, somebody has to get the jobs, right? Why not us?

ira2, I still find it ironic that the Mormons are the ones pushing traditional marriage as marriage between ONE man and ONE woman. Yeah, right.

6 11 2008
ira2

Jamie, Palin just didn’t have enough exposure to classy people like – uh, what’s her name, the one she went to get an autograph from? I mean, she had to make up a silly French name for a business so she could feel like she’s jacking it up a notch above the wasillybilly level… that goes with her iffy outfits being just a notch above that level too.

6 11 2008
pdx mb

Jon Stewart: “Sarah Palin has been tagged and reintroduced into the wild.”

ROTFLMAO!

6 11 2008
ira2

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:59:51) :

[…]

ira2, I still find it ironic that the Mormons are the ones pushing traditional marriage as marriage between ONE man and ONE woman. Yeah, right.

…and the woman’s sister… and the woman’s niece… and the woman’s friend… or not friend… uh-huh. You know how they build two- or three story houses with one wall all solid except for a door up in the middle of nowhere on the second or third floor? So it’s ready for expansion?

6 11 2008
ira2

OT: have you all looked at the IP map lately? The dots are really blossoming down Central America, and all throughout Eastern Europe and India and China.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, back in the day, the Mormons were more of cult than a religion, and now, they want to talk about traditional marriage? That’s rich.

My cat, perched on my right arm, agrees.

I am listening to President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama give his acceptance speech again (YouTube is a beautiful thing), and he sounds even better this time around.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, woot! Taiwan has dots! Makes me smile.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky Hussein

I’m just watching the evening news and W is on – “terroriststerroriststerrorists, blahblahblah” —– FGS someone tell him to shut up! grrrr

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Speaking of Real Men getting Emotional – my son’s Philosophy Tutor has been following this election with a passion that makes even mine look lukewarm – he is a beautiful, extremely intelligent, educated man originally from Africa, Camaroun, I think. He originally was supposed to emigrate to the States as a young man, but ended up here for his studies and then stayed. He is so emotional about this election and the possibility of the US, the country that he considers the greatest on the planet, electing a black President has taken his breath away. Last night he came in and said “OMG! Is stayed up all night, I had the tv on and the remote control so I could watch it on every channel, I brought in 2 radios and had my computer with internet on ALL AT THE SAME TIME; I drank a full bottle of champagne by myself, and when they annouced that he had won at about 5 am, I let out a long scream, then turned on music full blast and just kept on screaming. I waited for the neighbors to come by and complain but nobody did! And I cancelled all of my evening students again for tonight (Thursday) because I have to go home now and spend the evening immersed in it all again.” Wonderful, emotional man!

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

asiangal, I was looking at Michelle’s dress a minute ago and she looked cool – a bit like our red-back spiders, but they are very elegant, too.😀

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

I’ll ask again – are you out there, Hick?

Jamie, Floridian in France (21:59:31) :

Hick Town in W PA (21:58:14) :

Jamie,
You have to find the Plum book and select the position you want. It is a requirement of the application.

What’s the Plum Book?

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, Floridian in France (22:15:36) :

I bet his neighbours knew exactly what was going on, and smiled.😉

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Blue Sky Hussein, did you hear what he said in his congratulatory call to Obama? “Laura and I wanted to say what an awesome job you’ve done and offer congratulations to you and your beautiful bride.” I’m paraphrasing, but there it it–our president. Sigh.

Jamie, Floridian in France, what a beautiful story. I have watched the reactions around the world, and it’s truly amazing. I heard on NPR that America’s popularity rose about ten points or more in the last month with the French. If it’s true, that’s fantastic!

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky
6 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

ira2 (21:58:19)
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Thanks, I feel much better now.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

asiangal, I bet Michelle was a little tickled after 16 years. A lot of happily-married Australian men habitually refer to their wives as “the bride”.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (22:19:16) :

Aussie Blue Sky Hussein, did you hear what he said in his congratulatory call to Obama? “Laura and I wanted to say what an awesome job you’ve done and offer congratulations to you and your beautiful bride.” I’m paraphrasing, but there it it–our president. Sigh.

Did Bush REALLY say that? I thought it was a Jon Stewart joke!

Thanks Aussie Blue Sky – I’ll go look at the site and maybe apply for a job (even though I live in France and my husband has a good job here).

And yes, the US’s reputation has skyrocketed in countries around the world!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Blue Sky, my friend said she looked like a black widow spider. I don’t care! I am crazy like that. I loved the dress and would have worn it twenty years and umpteen pounds ago. Then again, black is my favorite color, so I always think it’s appropriate to wear black.

Jamie, Floridian in France, there’s a saying about a job being a plum position, meaning the best one for the person applying. I am guessing that Hick Town in PA is making a joke about that. Just my best guess.

6 11 2008
Deuce2 AL

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:59:51) :

Deuce2 AL, to me, a real man is someone who is authentic, which would include shedding tears. A real man puts Obama/Biden stickers on his car in yahoo country and stoically puts up with crap for it. A real man serves his country with honor. So, to me, you most certainly qualify.
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Did I ever tell you how much I loved you? If I didn’t, I DO.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Sorry asiangrrl, it is called the Plum book

“Every four years, just after the Presidential election, the United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions, commonly known as the Plum Book, is published…” though yes, any one would be a plum job…

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, I wouldn’t burn my eyes or my mind reading anything related to the Bush govt. bleuucch!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Blue Sky, huh. There’s an actual Plum Book. I didn’t know that. Perhaps that’s where the saying comes from. I learned something!

I bet Michelle just rolled her eyes. That would be my response to W. As for AKM dodging shaking Palin’s hand, it reminds me that W. came to MN after the bridge collapsed. He met with the young man who helped save a bus full of school children and talked with him. My response in that situation would have been, “I’ve had a terrible enough experience. Please go away as you are making it worse.”

Jamie, Floridian in France, I’m afraid it’s true. I heard it first on the “real” news and just cringed. Of couse, it’s funnier watching Jon, my honey, Stewart say it.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

And what if I just wanted to be “First Lady Hanger-On-er”? or something similar.

When Sarko got elected Pres, I was mad at my husband because, as I told him, I wanted him to be elected Pres so I could be France’s first American First Lady. Blah! Then Sarko married an Italian and SHE got to be the first foreign First Lady. Pitiful!

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, this is the site you want

http://www.transitionjobs.us/

6 11 2008
pdx mb

On the whole mormon thing… mixed feelings here, having a sister who was married in the temple in SLC (mom never quite got over that), finally divorced the guy, who was truly awful… so I’m not a big fan either. Plenty of mormons in my area. BUT, you never know who’s lurking here under this big mudflats tent.

Having said that, on Talk of the Nation the other day, a mormon guy (from Portland!) called in to say that he and his wife were voting for Obama. Got a lot of grief from their family and friends, but he gets that being pro-life is about more than saving a fetus–that it’s about the whole life, including the lives of poor kids and soldiers… They’ll probably be excommunicated, but I had to admire his courage, and it was nice to know there are some in the mormon church who think beyond the book of mormon.

Don’t mean to be preachy, but had to say something…

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Chief Shikago–thanks for a beautiful write-up

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Deuce2 AL, I just tell the truth as I see it. I’m the REAL straight-talk express!

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., I think you would have made a much better foreign first lady of france than Mrs. Sarkozy! You can be First Lady-Elect Hanger-Oner, and I’ll be First Children’s Babysitter, as long as I don’t have to scoop the First Puppy’s poop.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Oh, asiangal, the last person you need to see after a disaster is W.

Bad mojo!

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@Aussie Blue –
THANKS again for those links! Will do!

And Thank you Thank you asiangrrl! And as for us applying for those two jobs, let’s go, girl! I’m with you.

And as the proud owner of Marty the Boston Terrier, we have decided that they need to give the girls a Boston – practically, a wonderful kind fun dog, great with kids, minimal health problems. Symbolically, they are Black and White – half and half, and here in Europethe Boston is known (officially) as “Our American Friend”. How perfect is that?

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

pdx mb, I completely agree with you that there are people of the Mormon faith who are good, decent people. In fact, Steve Young, ex-quarterback of the ‘Niners and great great grandson (or something) of Brigham Young spoke out against Prop. H8.

However, the law explicitly forbids a religion from pouring obscene amounts of money into a political cause (the separation of church and state). Therefore, if the Mormons want to be in the business of politics, they should be taxed like anyone else.

I am tired of one entity’s religion trumping over the rights of others.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Sky Blue, to make matters worse, my mom and I were flying to England the day W. came here. We had to bump up our flight, otherwise we would have been delayed because they have to shut down the airport when the Prez flies in. Nice way to support the local economy, W.

Jamie, Floridian in France, I hope they get a rescue dog, whatever they get, but not a cat because all cats have to be declawed before going into the White House (all the antique stuff, doncha know). The only thing I respected about W. was that he left his cats at home so they wouldn’t be declawed.

6 11 2008
ira2

Ohhh… I bet that’s why they all come up with those little dogs with whacked-off tails – because of the antiques. Well, except for that rambunctious lab or whatever it was, that one didn’t fit in with the rest of the dogs.

I was going to suggest a Boston/mantle Great Dane, but that was before Asian brought up the antiques. Hm. Yeah… not a good idea to have a dog with a 3-foot happy tail at china cabinet level.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, I don’t know much about dogs, obviously, but I’m hoping they don’t get a puppy because of how high-energy they are. I can’t wait to have young kids and their friends in the White House once again.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

I do also have to say, asiangrrl – my husband would make a better President than Sarko!

6 11 2008
pdx mb

Asian: Good to hear that about Steve Young. I agree with you on the $$$ thing. I, too, am tired of right-wing churches hijacking religion. To add insult to injury, while some megachurches preach openly on politics and get away with it, other, smaller churches have the IRS all over them over stuff that isn’t political at all.

The whole thing over Rev. Wright really got to me. I tried to discuss it with my cousin, and she just couldn’t get beyond the sound bite in order to put it into the context of an entire sermon, and then the sermon into some cultural context. And it still brings tears to my eyes to think about the Obama’s resigning their membership at Trinity. It’s one thing to have a rift with a person you are close to, but to distance yourself from your entire church community would be like losing a limb. I know there are a lot of folks here who are agnostic or atheist, which is fine. But for me, my congregation is truly my village. I don’t know… it just made me really sad.

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

ira2 – Bostons have no tails! Still perfect!

And my husband, a former veterinarian and the ultimate dog expert – begged no Lab, no dalmation – both are too stupid. Ditto for small poodles.

6 11 2008
pdx mb

Sorry for such serious posts on a light-hearted thread! Must mean it’s time for bed.

‘Night all!

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (22:55:36) :

I can’t wait to have young kids and their friends in the White House once again.

Where did I read an article in the IHT that said “The Obamas are expected to balance state dinners with sleepovers”. Cool!

6 11 2008
ira2

We-ell… their daddy did say that “they earned their puppy”, so that’s probably what it’s going to be. ‘Course there are loads of puppies at all kinds of shelters, and they’ll likely get some advice on what they can and can’t have. If they pick out any particular breed, I just hope it’s one that’s well-suited as a pet for anybody. Chances are that thousands of people will run out and buy one “just like it”, like they do every time a certain breed makes it in the dernier cri news.

I dunno… that whole family strikes me as pretty normal people with good sense :o) Methinks they’ll pick well and do well.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

W was here last year for the Asia-Pacific Economic Conference. It was a scream!😀

Sydney is a city of some 5 million people, who had half their CBD cut off, just to accommodate W. He brought 1,000 people with him. (wanker)

But he still wasn’t safe.😉

Our Australian political satire ensemble got their hands on a big, black SUV. They put Australian and Canadian flags on the front. Some of them dressed up as Secret Service, with all the electronics, etc, and the requisite number of ID tags and passes hanging around their necks. The tags, and the stickers on the vehicle, all proclaimed it was a stunt. But nobody looked at those.

They were nonplussed when they were waved through the first security checkpoint. They were worried when they were waved through the second checkpoint. After that, they had nowhere to go. Fifty metres from W’s hotel, they did a U-turn, and stopped – and out of the car popped Osama bin Laden!😀

Three quarters of Australia wet their pants laughing, watching it on TV.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

pdx mb, thank you for sharing tonight. It helps me see more than just my point of view, which is a good thing. You are right about Wright. That would be very heartbreaking, especially as the comment WAS taken out of context. Good night. Please come back to the ‘flats again.

6 11 2008
ira2

Jamie, I’m scared to death of little dogs – like, everything less than knee-high on a tall gal – so I have a hard time being open-minded about them, LOL! But I fully agree with your husband about dalmatians and labs. And I’ll toss in golden retrievers too, not for stupidity but for unbalanced temper due to overbreeding.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, I think the Obamas are completely grounded, but I just worry about the effect you said–people rushing to do whatever the Obamas do.

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., what is Sarko like? I don’t know much about him except he has a model wife who likes to talk about sex with reporters, apparently. Rather, talk with reporters about sex. What don’t you like about him?

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, I think the Obamas are completely grounded, but I just worry about the effect you said–people rushing to do whatever the Obamas do.

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., what is Sarko like? I don’t know much about him except he has a model wife who likes to talk about sex with reporters, apparently. Rather, talk with reporters about sex. What don’t you like about him?

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., I read the same article, and I thought, that’s what we need. Maybe it was HuffPo? Or NYT. I can’t remember. Who knows? The girls may break a few of the antiques themselves.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Spaniels. They generally have a lovely attitude and you can safely turn your backs on them.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Blue Sky, if I got a dog, it would be a black GSD (why is the breed German Shepherd Dog? Isn’t that redundant?) or a Rottie. I love Rotties, but probably not good for the White House.

6 11 2008
megacephalus

IMHO small dogs are unbelievably stupid and do nothing but yap, yap, yap… for no good reason… and, oh yeah, shit on the sidewalk for others to either walk in or clean up after them…

the perfect Palin dogs… not Obama dogs!

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (23:14:18) :

Aussie Blue Sky, if I got a dog, it would be a black GSD (why is the breed German Shepherd Dog? Isn’t that redundant?) or a Rottie. I love Rotties, but probably not good for the White House.
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German Shepherds are lovely dogs, but they are very serious and protective. They are used an awful lot in security. German Shepherd is apparently the favoured name over Alsatian. I don’t know why.

But when push comes to shove, a mongrel is going to be more robust and you can find a nice mongrel puppy in any shelter. The best dog I ever knew was a pound puppy. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what the Obamas choose. They seem like people who would prefer to save a life.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

megacephalus, I agree. I don’t like small dogs. They get on my nerves. So, what would you choose for the First Puppy?

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

haha, the Palin dog was given back. No time to look after it and being on the road shoring up the GOP, but it’s all about jobs (done on the carpet) and Obama is a SOCIALIST!😀

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Let me clarify, I don’t like the small yapping kind of dogs. I like biiiiig dogs, but I don’t know how apropos that would be for the White House.

6 11 2008
Deb

damn…I should be in bed…but I just popped in for one last look!
ira…I owned two golden retrievers…and I would now own nothing else…after having had poodles, spaniels, mutts, and various “hunting dogs” growing up….they are loving, but LARGE and I couldn’t quite see a young golden pup bounding around all those antiques!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Blue Sky, you slay me, you really do. I would ONLY get a rescue dog, but I would love an Alsatian mix (sounds better) or a Rottie mix. Don’t think my cats would appreciate it so much, though.

6 11 2008
ira2

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (23:14:18) :

Aussie Blue Sky, if I got a dog, it would be a black GSD (why is the breed German Shepherd Dog? Isn’t that redundant?) or a Rottie. I love Rotties, but probably not good for the White House.

Heh. I had both. The Rottie was a love, obedient, and dumb as a rock. The black GSD was a sweetheart and a klutz. They played like maniacs together in the yard, but inside the house they were pretty responsive to my tyranny about manners.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Deb, hi there! Bedtime messing with your Mudflats’ addiction?

What about a corgi? I like corgis. Or is that too British Queen for the USA?

6 11 2008
Deb

hi asian! I was trying to “wean” myself a bit from here…but look where I am!!! sneaking back in like a real addict!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, you had both at the same time? That would be my dream, if I didn’t have the energy of a slug.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (23:24:08) :

Deb, hi there! Bedtime messing with your Mudflats’ addiction?

What about a corgi? I like corgis. Or is that too British Queen for the USA?
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Her Majesty’s corgis are famous for biting. Even HM.😉

King Charles Spaniels are famous for prefering to be around people. The White House would be a place where folks would be hanging around rather a lot.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Deb, it’s like Ruffles. You can’t stop at just one!

6 11 2008
Deb

aussie….maybe you australians are redundant…here in the U.S we just call them German Shepherds. GS??

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

“Who knows? The girls may break a few of the antiques themselves.” LOL you are probably right – and don’t forget all those Biden grandkids that they are now friends with.🙂

Sarko, hmm. As the 100 day campaign went along, I started to get more and more uncomfortable with Sarko. Then it dawned on me – he started to remind me more and more of Bush – that swagger, that self-satisfaction, that condescension when talking to reporters as if they had no idea and obviously nobody could be as smart as “moi”. And I can’t separate the swagger, the bling and the hyperactivity from the man. He wants to be so great and so powerful and accomplish everything for everybody right now! that he ends up talking up a storm and then having to back down because it is either too much, too fast or not feasible or – the worse – he backs down on a promise or idea because someone, somewhere in a union sneezes! So since he has come into office, he has accomplished almost nothing.

And now that he is Pres of the EU for 6 months he is getting quite a few leaders pissed off for the same reason – he starts making plans and promises without consulting anyone because, well “C’est moi, le Président!” like “C’est moi, l’Etat”.

And here is something that is not so secret – we have a good friend, a doctor specialized in toxicomany, she works for the Health Ministry on drug addiction problems. She was visiting us last year and said “He’s a coke addict. I spotted it right away, he shows all the signs. Add everyone I work with says the same thing.” And another doctor made exactly the same comment. Watch Sarko over a period of time and you will see when he’s giving a speech and hasn’t had his hit. Weird!

Bayrou was our man! the Sexy Centrist!

6 11 2008
megacephalus

@ asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (23:14:18) :

“why is the breed German Shepherd Dog?”

because in German they are simply “Schäferhund” or “shepherd dog”…
[the Brits would call them ‘Alastians’] and there are many different breeds of working dogs called ‘shepherd dogs’, hence ‘German Shepherd’.

ref: great German/English/French/Chinese/Italian on-line dictionary: .http://dict.leo.org/

6 11 2008
Deb

oooh…..glad I stayed up for the gossip!! Sarko…a coke addict????

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Aussie Blue Sky, yeah, but the name of the dog, the King Charles Spaniel….mebbe too Brit for us Yanks.

6 11 2008
szn46

Love to read about and see my country bathed in the light of a new dawn. Seattle erupted in several unplanned celebrations (one of which was at the “historic Pike Place Market – the heart of Seattle” and for once the police that showed up there were grinning, too. (Most of them)

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Deb (23:27:45) :

aussie….maybe you australians are redundant…here in the U.S we just call them German Shepherds. GS??
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Yes, we call them German Shepherds, too.

from wikipedia
“at the conclusion of World War I it was believed that the inclusion of the word “German” would harm the breed’s popularity, due to the anti-German sentiment of the era.[10] The breed was officially renamed by the Kennel Club to “Alsatian Wolf Dog”,[a] this name also was adopted by many other international kennel clubs. Later the name was changed again to “Alsatian” as the appendage “wolf dog” caused discontent after media capitalised on the name to run a scare campaign advertising that “half-wolves” had been let loose in Britain.[10] The name remained until 1977 when successful campaigns by dog enthusiasts pressured the British kennel clubs to allow the breed to be registered again as German Shepherd Dogs.”

6 11 2008
Deb

speaking of dogs…did you see the video of barney biting the reporter today??? (w’s dog)

6 11 2008
ira2

Deb, I think if you go to a breeder of hunting goldens, you have a good chance of getting a good dog. But show breeders have screwed the breed up so badly, you’d be lucky to get a sound one. Adopting one whose background you don’t know is kinda playing with fire nowadays.

Asian, as long as you have a nice-sized backyard and an unlimited supply of tennis balls, a Rottie and a shepherd are easily entertained for hours by you sitting in a lawn chair and throwing said tennis balls for them. For hours. And hours. And hours :o)

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Sorry, Aussie, but King Charles Spaniels are not the brightest of dogs. And Jack Russels though clever are nervous and tend to snap and bite out of the blue.

Standard poodles are supposed to be one of the smartest breeds, small poodles the dumbest – and bite, too. Boxers are fabulous, but nervous and hyperactive – thinking of those antiques. When we lost our boxer, my dog-expert (seriously, not kidding) husband said we should choose between a French bulldog and a Boston – both super sweet, both great with kids, both smart, but the Boston has less health problems and is closer personality-wise to the Boxer without the weight and power to knock you off your feet.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

szn46 (23:29:48) :

Love to read about and see my country bathed in the light of a new dawn. Seattle erupted in several unplanned celebrations (one of which was at the “historic Pike Place Market – the heart of Seattle” and for once the police that showed up there were grinning, too. (Most of them)
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I love Pike Place Market! So many cool people there. And the webcam! It’s a great venue for an eruption of hope.😉

6 11 2008
Deb

I had two sound ones from two different breeders….and have never talked to a golden owner who didn’t love their golden!

6 11 2008
Deb

Jamie…I agree about Jack Russell’s …they seem to be born with ADHD

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

megacephalus, thanks for the clarification. I was trying to figure out the Dog part of the breed name, actually. I mean, it’s not Boston Terrier Dog or Golden Retriever Dog. It just seems strange to me that the official name of the breed is German Shepherd Dog and not just German Shepherd.

szn46, yeah, the world loves us now. President-Elect Obama can leverage that into some seriously good foreign policy, creating more goodwill.

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., wow! W. did coke back in the day, so they are like soul brothers. Maybe that’s why W. and Sarko don’t really like each other? Too similar? So, Sarko imagines himself Louis XIV, eh? King George III (W.) and Le Roi, Louis XIV (Sarko). It’s almost 2009, people! Sheesh.

6 11 2008
Deb

oh dear…I just looked at the time! I got my “fix” of mudflats…thanks for bearing with me…you “enablers” you!

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, I’m looking for a dog with a good temperament – and who won’t bark excessively, or jump on people, and is good inside for long periods.

The really smart dogs need stimulation and lots of exercise – and other dogs.

I prefer smart dogs but I don’t live in a huge mansion (yet).

6 11 2008
Deb

nite all!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Deb, I saw that video, and I posted earlier saying I had no sympathy for the reporter because he should know you don’t just pet a strange dog on the head without letting him sniff you first.

ira2, some day, maybe I’ll have one or the other or both. It’s a nice thought.

6 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Deb (23:31:49) :

speaking of dogs…did you see the video of barney biting the reporter today??? (w’s dog)
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I saw it, and Barney was quite serious. Those dogs have a Scottish temper, too.

Maybe Barney is tired of kilt jokes.😉

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Night, Deb, come back any time (so speaketh the pusher).

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Deb – yeah! and though our dear Pres, with all of his friends in high-media places, tries to choke the gossip, a bit gets through. Like when he supposedly called Carla soon after he had proposed and she had hesitated (and, hot on the heels of his quicky divorce,) said “I have to get married now! So make up your mind!” How romantic is that? He needed a First Lady! And then the photo of the engagement ring hit the papers, a beautiful pink diamond heart by Dior. And it was quickly followed by a photo of his previous wife, Cecelia with the SAME ring that Sarko had given to HER! Tacky!!!!

6 11 2008
ira2

Night, Deb :o)

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., dear god, he really is W.’s French twin.

6 11 2008
ira2

Asian, I can’t get the pictures to complete loading on my puter, but I think it’s my dial-up connection tonight – hope it works for you:

http://www.angelfire.com/vt/tiergarten/Page43a.html

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Aussie – maybe a French bulldog. They are so great! And sweet and docile. Bostons are fab – we love ours and we live in an apartment with no yard, but they aren’t dogs to be left alone for long periods of time or they’ll give you trouble. And they should be taken out occasionally, on the weekend, to run. I see people here in Nantes all the time with french bulldogs following them down the street, no leash, very sweet. My husband has lunch at a restaurant and the owners two French bulldogs sit by the bar/cash register counter all through the service. So cute!

6 11 2008
A Brit Abroad GONE BLUE Hussein

Morning all… just spent an hour reading through everything I missed…

…and now I have to congratulate the boyf on his birthday… back soon!

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

ira2, aw, is that your Rottie? What a sweet boy he was. He is so beautiful!

6 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (23:47:13) :

Jamie, Fl. in Fr., dear god, he really is W.’s French twin.

The French were absolutely and utterly horrified when Sarko started to hang out with GWB, vacation in the US, and “pal around with W”. That’s when they started calling him Sarko L’Américain – and I don’t think that it was a complement! I do think that it was brown-nosing, tho, cause he really was rooting for Obama to win. Sucked up to him, too, when he came through France. When they gave that joint press conference a couple of months ago (S and O, not W) Sarko was gushing like a love-sick girl over Obama.

6 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Brit Abroad, hi, bye!

ira2, I have to say, I love Sable, your Angel kitty. I have a thing for black cats. May he (and Dojan) play happily over the Rainbow Bridge.

6 11 2008
Sue

re: Mormons Mormons, or LDS, do NOT practice or condone polygamy. Although there are groups of polygamists who call themselves Mormons, they are not accepted by the Mormon church.

re: gay marriage Our country’s definition of marriage is one man with one woman. If we change that definition for one group (such as gays), other groups (such as polygamists) will want to change it, too. Just a thought.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, Floridian in France (23:49:20) :

I’ve never been to Nantes – Saintes and Tours are the closest I’ve been.😉

I love the French attitude to animals. I have a pic of myself eating dinner in a restaurant in Paris with a cat sitting on my lap. We ate there a lot, they had 2 cats and a dog in the restaurant – very home-y. I saw a man in Bordeaux walking on the street with a cat sitting on his shoulder. But — when you’re a tourist dragging your suitcase behind you it can get tricky dodging the dog-do in a city like Nice (dogsh*t capital of the universe!). However, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen was in Paris – a German Shepherd decided to take a dump in the middle of a pedestrian crossing; the owner patiently waited for the dog to finish – and so the traffic had no choice but to wait.

I really miss having a dog. Or a cat.😦

7 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Sue, the Mormon religion did in the past preach polygamy. As for the country, women were sold into marriage earlier in our country’s history. Black people were slave. Interracial marriage was not allowed by law. These are all traditions of our country. All of which have been overturned, with much gnashing of the teeth, I might add. The Bible was used to rationalize slavery.

The main tenet in America is supposedly equality and justice for all. As long as there are civil rights that come with being married, then it is discriminatory to say certian people cannot marry.

I would be for making all unions civil and taking marriage out of the legal realm completely–leaving that to churches. However, there is a separation of state and religion in this country. That is also one of the tenets of America. Therefore, some group or person’s religion does not get to run roughshod over someone else’s civil rights.

7 11 2008
ira2

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (23:53:54) :

ira2, I have to say, I love Sable, your Angel kitty. I have a thing for black cats. May he (and Dojan) play happily over the Rainbow Bridge.

Oh, no doubt they are doing just that :o) I should pay rent up there really, what with all my old or handicapped critters popping across the bridge over the years.

7 11 2008
Sue

Asiangrrl Yes, I am familiar with Mormon history. I just didn’t think it was ironic that they would support one man-one woman marriage because that is what their religion now allows. I can’t remember how long they have been against polygamy, but it has been over 110 years at least.

Again, I believe that if gays are allowed to marry, polygamists will want the same right. There are probably other groups that would want it too, but I can’t think of any right offhand.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Finger-pointing at the end of a losing campaign is traditional and to a large degree predictable, as Mr. McCain himself acknowledged in a July interview.

“Every book I’ve read about a campaign is that the one that won, it was a perfect and beautifully run campaign with geniuses running it and incredible messaging, etcetera,” Mr. McCain said then.

“And always the one that lost, ‘Oh, completely screwed up, too much infighting, bad people, etcetera.’ So if I win, I believe that historians will say, ‘Way to go, he fine-tuned that campaign, and he got the right people in the right place and as the campaign grew, he gave them more responsibility.’ If I lose, people will say, ‘That campaign, always in disarray.’ “

7 11 2008
ira2

Aussie Blue Sky (00:02:43) :

Jamie, Floridian in France (23:49:20) :

I’ve never been to Nantes – Saintes and Tours are the closest I’ve been.😉

I love the French attitude to animals. I have a pic of myself eating dinner in a restaurant in Paris with a cat sitting on my lap. We ate there a lot, they had 2 cats and a dog in the restaurant – very home-y. I saw a man in Bordeaux walking on the street with a cat sitting on his shoulder. But — when you’re a tourist dragging your suitcase behind you it can get tricky dodging the dog-do in a city like Nice (dogsh*t capital of the universe!). However, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen was in Paris – a German Shepherd decided to take a dump in the middle of a pedestrian crossing; the owner patiently waited for the dog to finish – and so the traffic had no choice but to wait.

I really miss having a dog. Or a cat.😦

Ohhh, that’s right! Man, you people bring my memories out of the hintermost corners, LOL!

Going to Paris on a lark during my tree-hugging days, I wasn’t AT ALL dressed to mingle in the fine stores. I wanted to have a looksee at all the finery though, so I just marched on in and did my looking. In the cosmetics department, I was approached first by one… then another… than a whole flock of elegantly made-up and perfumed demoiselles who – smiled and exclaimed excitedly about Nando in the crook of my arm = my cat, all dressed up with harness and leash. He was a huge hit with those French people who otherwise would have looked at me with much disdain :o)

Gawd, I miss those day of just taking off and driving somewhere exciting and taking critters into stores and restaurants and all that.

7 11 2008
Sue

Sarah Palin was very divisive as a candidate. Now, it appears, she is a divisive force in her own party. There are those who still think she is wonderful, and there are those who want nothing to do with her. It will interesting to see what happens to the Republican party. Will they continue as they have been for the past decades, or will they see the light and realize that greed, fear, and hatred are not what Americans want from their leaders.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

from KTUU – Sarah is the pride of the fleet, apparently

“To hear these scurrilous things being said about Sarah Palin — who is so clearly an honorable and admiral woman — has been infuriating,” McAllister said.

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad
7 11 2008
ira2

Aussie Blue Sky (00:21:55) :

from KTUU – Sarah is the pride of the fleet, apparently

“To hear these scurrilous things being said about Sarah Palin — who is so clearly an honorable and admiral woman — has been infuriating,” McAllister said.

*Snickers*… did he explain why she tried so hard and succeeded so admirally to hide all that honor and admirality during the campaign?

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@Aussie and ira2 :

The first few years of my marriage I worked as a culinary guide. I got to talk to some of the top chefs in France. One of them confided once – he hated animals in his restaurant but he was obliged to allow people to bring them because if he banned animals, a lot of his clients just wouldn’t come to eat.

Nowadays, animals are banned from places where there is food, and when they are allowed, I see them less and less often in restaurants. Some owners, like those that I mentioned above, do have their “restaurant dogs” who sit either by the front door or near the cash register, but those are usually bars or bars and small places that serve lunch to the locals and local businesspeople.

now what is horrible is there is now a whole generation of “homeless” people – I put that in quotes cause many do have homes tho precarious, and they have ALL taken to owning dogs and lots of them. Why? Companonship certainly, and most of the dogs are clean and well-behaved. But also because they, the humans, can’t be either put in a jail cell or kicked out of an apartment or even a squat if they own animals. I also know that there is a vet that the city (I don’t remember if it is a paid or volunteer position) sends around to make sure the animals are clean and vacinated.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

ira2 (00:34:44) :

*Snickers*… did he explain why she tried so hard and succeeded so admirally to hide all that honor and admirality during the campaign?
————————————————–
ira — you know a sailor never tells!😀

7 11 2008
GJ happy n blue in Red Idaho

I could be just to liberal, but I have always believed that in a free society, consenting adults (those over at least 18 -21) should be able to choose their living arrangement, and thus who, how many, and when they want to marry, according to their belief, religion, culture, and custom. Marriages come in all colors and flavors and are not exclusive to just one race, religion, culture, or sexual orientation. Once married, those who are married should have equal civil rights as all other marriages.

I guess trying to force everyone to live like I do or believe like I do (me the wife woman, hubby the man) feels like a dictatorship, not a free country. Diversity is a good thing, in the gene pool. Closed oppositions cause closed minds, and very poor gene pool choices. IMHO

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

Jamie, Floridian in France (00:36:19) :

Wow, that’s kind of extreme. Is that Brigitte Bardot at work? It’s a crazy idea – but sooo French. I like radical French craziness. I’m sure they will work it out when they realise it’s not sustainable.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

GJ happy n blue in Red Idaho (00:46:59) :

You know, I am american, hubby is french, I was raised a practicing Jew, he a Catholic who is agnostic at best, anti-Catholic, anti-organized religion who has lived with a half-Jewish best friend and 2 years with Muslims in Marocco. We have raised our kids in France and Italy with time spent in the States, with 3 languages, several cultures. I know my kids have had a rough time living in such homogenous societies in Italy and here, but they have grown up to be much more than tri-lingual. They are socially and culturally aware that people everywhere believe in different things, speak, eat, dress differently, customs and mores are different, and they have grown into young men who are accepting and understanding of these differences, they can adapt wherever they go and enjoy those differences. They judge, yes, but both negatively and positively. I think that the world is becoming more and more like this and one day everyone will be as accepting of people’s differences. This may be slightly off of your topic, but to me it is all entwined.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Aussie Blue Sky :

what do you find extreme – that the dogs are protected? Well, they are less calculating than their owners, for sure! But I am a bit tired of the French craziness, no matter how entertaining, but you know we have discovered that everyone out there is crazy – the craziness is just different in every country!

7 11 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Will voice a late late night / early morning opinion before heading back to bed –

I love beagles – loyal – friendly – cute – playful — in addition to being a very comfortable lap dog & companion

On the other hand — an american eskimo are very intelligent, loyal, highly trainable and adorable. Love children and good protectors.

Now back to bed – work in about 5 hrs !!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Okay, who is watching Larry King (not so) Live on CNN International?

7 11 2008
GJ happy n blue in Red Idaho

Good comment Jamie.

Not sure what the topic is/was, I was just rambling after something I’d read earlier, went off to get a bit to eat & drink and then came back to start typing off the top of my head.

Must have something to do with being blue in red ID, just kind of feel like a lost soul in a pool of closed minds, sometimes.

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

What did you drink? You were talking about marriage and diversity.

7 11 2008
Aussie Blue Sky

oh, Jamie, I posted and it went to spam😦 if you get to read this, I am now going to watch TV, so goodnight.

7 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Bedtime thread’s up – I just fell over it!

7 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Good night Aussie! See you tonight!

Thanks Brit!

7 11 2008
JOHN

THANK GOD BUSH IS GOING – PERHAPS TO THE FUNNY FARM WHERE LIFE IS BEAUTIFULL ALL THE TIME AHA! AHI! AHA!
PALIN GOES BACK TO KEEP RUSSIA INHER SIGHTS – BANG BANG >>>>>>
MACAIN GOES BACK TO MAKING GREAT PIZZAS ! MACAIN YOU DONE IT AGAIN!
AND THANK GOD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE FINALLY WOKEN UP AND REALISED THAT MAYBE THE REST OF THE WORLD MIGHT FINALLY BE SAVED FROM TOTAL DEVASTATION.
OBAMA YOUR THE MAN SO PLEASE STAY ALIVE SO SHIT DOESNT HIT THE FAN.
WHERE ALL WATCHING FROM AUSSIE LAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 11 2008
GJ happy n blue in Red Idaho

Only had hot choc, to late or early for anything stronger, and a fig bar. Looks like it’s time for me to turn in, before the dreamy feeling wears off, hot choc always does that for me….sweet dreams…night or day dreams…all.

7 11 2008
Quetzalcoatl

Nice of you to reprazent, Shikago, a hella’ tale and evening. Thanks for the photo’s‚ did you eat all that candy?

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:31:46) :
There was a thread a while back with an article that stated how little McCain had a hand in picking the VP. Oh she was vetted all right..
* anti-abortion
* got god — laying of hand Muthee – get ‘our kind’ in ‘there’ [positions of power – you saw the video]
* easily manipulated with offers of candy [status]
* scandals? none — or at least knew how to shove ’em under the rug out of sight, until now….
by old white men clinging to their club of taking care of their own, screw the rest mentality.
The campaign itself spewing lies [false advertising is not allowed in Canada — fines and cease and desist] and scripting what McCain needed to say — negative — all for the status quo. Quite unlike the Maverick of 2000, no? Truly, one who had little control, but keeping in mind the pie [Presidency].

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:46:51) :
petition–this one to strip the Mormon church of its status as a religious organization (exempt from taxes) if they continue to use so much of their money to fund a political issue such as prop. H8.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
YES, Absolutely! Church out of Government.

Regarding Sarkozy being a coke addict — we don’t know that and you certainly don’t know that.
Some get over the top, maybe a combination of over excitement, a rush of natural chemicals in the brain and it looks to others as if you’re on coke. One gets animated, talking fast, popping out ideas after ideas…
Seriously, coke addicts aren’t old — because if they are addicted, life takes a downward spiral quite fast – it’s a sorry tale.

Don’t judge without proof, Please! I doubt ‘you can tell’ by looking at someone. C’mon, get a grip. You’d need to be in contact with that person a lot to notice if anything is up….

7 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

You may not be a writer, but you had me in tears. Thanks for sharing.

7 11 2008
From England aka Spoon Archer Hussein Palin

Thanks Shikago! This is great!!!!! I don’t think I’ll get over what happened Tuesday. I have been so deeply affected.

As for the names…..I think I’ll keep my Hussein name, I’ve gotten fond of it:)

7 11 2008
Enchanted and Healing

Chief Shikago- Thank you sooo very much for sharing your day with us. I swear I kept seeing you in the crowd shots that night. 😉

And thanks for proudly representing Mudflats! Also.

7 11 2008
joy - fl

Wonderful, thank you

7 11 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

@ szn46 (23:29:48) :
RE: Love to read about and see my country bathed in the light of a new dawn. Seattle erupted in several unplanned celebrations (one of which was at the “historic Pike Place Market – the heart of Seattle” and for once the police that showed up there were grinning, too. (Most of them)
~~~

My boss and his pregnant girlfriend got in their car and drove to The Showbox where an unofficial Obama Party took place. It spilled out into the street and Terry said it was amazing to see.
Being that I was there for some of the nastiest Bush/War protests, that must have been a sweet sight!
Prior to the election I would look at the bosses g/f pregnant bump and feel this sort of Terror. The day I found out I was pregnant, we went to war with Iraq the first time. It was terrifying to be carrying life as people were dying in my name.
After Obama was elected, I looked at her swollen bump and felt such joy. I told her it must be amazing to be carrying a baby now.
I think if she has a girl her name will be Hope.
F-bomb Prop 8 and ANYONE who would stand around watching someone get the shit kicked out of them and do nothing! Compliant Silence makes you just as guilty. I wish I could be as gracious as some of you about it, but man I have just seen people I love kicked around too many times while those around are silently compliant. To me that is like watching a kid leave the park with a known child molester and you did nothing to stop it.

7 11 2008
Nan

Thanks so much for the great writeup. I know Chicago and the area well, having grown up in nearby Kankakee. I put in a 19 hour day (4 a.m. to 11p.m, portal to portal) as a Judge of Elections. I volunteered to fill this slot in a voting district which is about 50% black and 50% elderly and working class white dems. I’m a retired govt. atty. and well equipped to make damn sure no one was blocked from voting by GOP operatives. We had a record turnout. By 11 a.m. my my knees and back were in constant pain. So at the end of my day, I was too exhausted to do anything but climb into my bed and fall asleep as I watched your event in Chicago. What a historic day!
JFK came to my college during his campaign and I’ve campaigned for Dems ever since. But this election was by far the most important. I saw this as the last chance to keep our country from sliding down the slope into Third World Hell. I’m pretty much a cynical agnostic, but I want to say in all sincerity, God bless Barack Obama, and keep him safe.

7 11 2008
swineprincess

Shikago! You are wonderful! thanks for the first person account! I cried all over again… Maybe sometime in Feb or March I’ll quit (crying that it) every time something special happens with respect to this election! Thank you!

7 11 2008
yellowdoggranny

2 places i always wanted to be in history..at the march on washington with martin luther king and in chicago with Obama when he made his speech …sigh*

7 11 2008
ED

Nice. Thanks, Chief.

7 11 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

You may not be a writer Cheif Shikago but that was beautifully written! I felt like I was there. Once again I am teary eyed! Thank you for sharing that experience.

7 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Thanks Shikago-

That was great! We were all thinking about you while you were at the rally. Great report and pics.

Funny- I was sure of the Obama win, that it didn’t occur to me that there might be McCain supporters at the rally hoping for an opposite outcome.

7 11 2008
Deep Blue in VA

Shikago,

Terrific post. Thanks for your comments about Virginia. More than a few tears were shed at my house on Tuesday night!

We’ve come such a long way.

7 11 2008
DeMo

Chief Shikago, thank you so much for your recap of the night. “Oh what a night…” I’m sure you’ll remember it forever. I know I will, and I only watched it on TV.

Aussie Blue Sky (23:39:17) :

Jamie, I’m looking for a dog with a good temperament – and who won’t bark excessively, or jump on people, and is good inside for long periods.

The really smart dogs need stimulation and lots of exercise – and other dogs.

I prefer smart dogs but I don’t live in a huge mansion (yet).
____________________________________________________________
I’ve been looking at dogs because I’m contemplating a move to the ‘burbs. (My nasty NYC apt. building doesn’t allow dogs.) Toy poodles, contrarty to what others have said, are wonderful. Smart. Friendly. Easy to train. Havanese (or Shavanese for short haired version) are amazing. The only caveat is that all small dogs are given to what is called small dog syndrome. Unless socialized, they can be nervous. Just make sure friends and family meet the dog quickly, and frequent walks will keep the dog exposed to people.

It’s my hope to get a dog from a shelter or rescue group. Relatively easy to find poodles or “designer breeds” of poodle mixes. Havanese have recently become popular and harder to find. Google is your friend. If you research, for instance, poodle rescue groups in your area, you should be able to find what you’re looking for.

7 11 2008
shell from Ohio

As usual I’m late getting here…..What an incredible account of the day. Thanks for sharing with us!🙂

7 11 2008
Oregon's Own Mister X

Wish I could have been there!

Go Obama! Go Blackhawks!

7 11 2008
portland oregon native

Thanks Shikago, great pics!

7 11 2008
mvngfwd

Bravo Shikago!!! We were all there in spirit with you. Thank you for carrying the “torch” for all the Mudpups around the world.

7 11 2008
mvngfwd

On the First dog issue, I think they should find a puppy at the Humane Society. Mutts are great, loyal and appreciative on a cosmic level for being saved. I also think it would send a wonderful message on so many levels. Just my two cents…😉

7 11 2008
Ripley in CT

wow. I feel like I was there… and a tear began as you spoke of the “Yes we Can” mantra, in one voice, by thousands of people.

Thanks Chief. We owe you one.

7 11 2008
justme

Thank you!!!!!!!

7 11 2008
Road Runner

Thanks, Shikago. Great momentos.

7 11 2008
the problem child

Great account – no wonder you were exhausted.

7 11 2008
jhubers

I was also at the rally, great job covering the event. My account was posted on Huffington Post. While I’ve been a faithful reader of Mudflats, and was inspired to keep my own blog of Sarah Palin (http://sarahpalinwatch.blogspot.com) I’m afraid I’m a Chicagoan, not Alaskan. But should you wish to read another account of the night, written as soon as I got home, here it is:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-hubers/watch-in-grant-park-on-ni_b_141410.html

7 11 2008
shilo442

Hey CHIEF,
I bet that was so fantastic to be there, thanks so much for sharing this with all of us.

7 11 2008
braveny

Thanks Chief, for letting us all be a part of history with this. Awsome!

8 11 2008
Northern Exposure

Thanks, Shikago, for that first-hand report and for your interest in Alaska.




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