Troopergate II Report to be Released at 3:30 Election Eve – Updated.

3 11 2008

Independent Investigator Tim Petumenos, who was hired by the Personnel Board just said he will release his troopergate report at 3:30 p.m. today. This is the second report, following on the heels of a Legisltative Investigation whose report last month indicated that Palin had abused her power in the firing of former Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan.  This investigation was initiated by Palin, who filed an ethics complaint against herself to make sure that the investigation happened in this venue.

Kyle Hopkins from the Anchorage Daily News is on the scene.

He said the report would cover Gov. Sarah Palin’s firing of Walt Monegan as well as a separate complaint from Anchorage activist Andree McLeod alleging alleges that state hiring practices were circumvented for a Palin supporter.

Petumenos has two staff members with him, and each has a thick, yellow-bound document on their lap. I should note that when I called
Personnel Board chair Debra English before the meeting to ask about
the Palin investigation, she didn’t say anything but recommended
showing up.

Buckle your seatbelts.

*****UPDATE – In a complete stunner that actually shouldn’t surprise us, The Personnel Board’s investigation of Palin, which she initiated herself, has concluded  that she did nothing wrong. At all.  Ever. And neither did any of her cronies.

Several members of the Alaska State Legislaure who are also attorneys have stated over the past weeks that they would be very surprised if the results of the Petumenos investigation initiated by Palin herself differed significantly from the Branchflower investigation initiated by the Alaska State Legislature. Hmmm.   I guess they are surprised.

The state Personnel Board-sanctioned investigation is the second into whether Palin violated state ethics law in firing her public safety commissioner, and it contradicts the earlier findings by a special counsel hired by the state Legislature.

 

Both investigations found that Palin was within her rights to fire Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

 

But the new report says the Legislature’s investigator was wrong to conclude that Palin abused her power by allowing aides and her husband, Todd, to pressure Monegan and others to dismiss her ex-brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten. Palin was accused of firing Monegan after Wooten stayed on the job.

[snip]

Petumenos wrote the Legislature’s special counsel, former state prosecutor Steve Branchflower, used the wrong state law as the basis for his conclusions and also misconstrued the evidence.

His findings and recommendations include:

 

– There is no cause to believe Palin violated the state ethics law in deciding to dismiss Monegan as public safety commissioner.

 

– There is no cause to believe Palin violated the state ethics law in connection with Wooten.

 

– There is no cause to believe any other state official violated the ethics act.

 

– There’s no basis to conduct a hearing to “address reputational harm,” as requested by Monegan.

 

– The state needs to address the issue of using private e-mails for government work and to examine how records are kept in the governor’s office. Palin used her Yahoo e-mail account for state business until it was hacked.

This investigation agreed with the findings of the Legislative investigation that Palin was within her rights to fire Monegan, who was an at-will employee. Monegan himself has never disputed Palin’s right to fire him.  However, the Personnel Board’s conclusion that Palin did not abuse her power is in direct contradiction to the Branchflower report released by the Legislative Council.

The fact that this report concludes there is no cause to believe that any other state official violated the ethics act is one that should raise eyebrows.  Nobody thrown under the bus, even?  Everyone is squeaky clean, angel-faced and pure as the driven snow…..yeah, right.

But here’s the killer.  Walt Monegan was denied his request for a public hearing to clear his name, after Palin and her “Truth Squad” dragged his reputation through the mud by saying that he had a “rogue mentality” and committed acts of “outright insubordination”.  Unbelievable. 

Since the Personnel Board has now refused to grant his request, this means that he has now, officially, exhausted all administrative possibilities in his case, and is basically now free to file a lawsuit.

So here’s your quick recap of the investigation:

The Legislature decides to investigate Palin for ethics violations.  Palin says she will cooperate, so no subpoena is issued.  Palin sends out Attorney General Talis Colberg to interview witnesses in advance of the Legislature’s investigation, so she knows what they’re going to say.  Palin discovers a taped phone call made by her administration pressuring Troopers to fire Wooten.  Palin says she is surprised by phone call and concedes it looks bad. Palin files ethics complaint against herself so that the Republican governor appointed Personnel Board, made up of people that she can fire,  will be the group that investigates.  Palin says Legislative investigation has become partisan and refuses to cooperate. Attorney General tells state employees they don’t need to comply with Legislative subpoenas.  They don’t show for depositions.  At the last minute they provide written testimony, but Palin still does not cooperate because she was not subpoenaed.  Legislature releases report that says Palin abused her power and violated the Executive Ethics Act.  Then, the day before the election, The Personnel Board releases a report clearing Palin and all state employees of everything.

My contacts at Alaskans for Truth, who were involved in supporting Walt Monegan in his request for a hearing, are not pleased.  This isn’t over by a long shot.  It’s unlikely that this grass roots group is going to let Palin skip off into the sunset without a fight.

Stay tuned for updates as they become available.  I expect we’ll be hearing from members of the Legislature soon.

 


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3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

First

3 11 2008
MJC

FROM THE CAMPAIGN WEBSITE:
Statement from Senator Obama on the death of his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGg8fD/commentary#comment-gG2bkS

**I HOPE ALL OF THE MUDPUPPIES LEAVE A MESSAGE OF CONDOLENCE ON BARACK’S CAMPAIGN WEBSITE.
I DID, AND MANY OTHERS ARE AS WELL..

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

What fun!!

3 11 2008
Lori W.

Holding on to edge of seat! Keep us posted!

3 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

man I am going nuts her and I have my g_daughter to day ..not fair

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@mhrt oregon “steve”,

I hear ya…my daughter had a crisis today and I’ve been working both ends. Actually – (don’t tell anyone)…I’m sitting here in the buff ready to take a bath and I came back to check one more time before stepping in.

Oh boy…….I’ve got it bad…

3 11 2008
DrChill

okay , its moments like this that make an atheist like me pray for the right thing to happen…

3 11 2008
Go See Alice a/k/a Copper Lipstick Palin

Less than an hour till we hear what thwey have on SWWNBN,
It’ll be 7;30 here on the east coast and I will definitely be interested in the results.

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

LOL Dr. Chill!

Pray!…it works.

3 11 2008
ds55

One hour from now! I can hardly wait!!

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Reprinted from the last thread.. Just was busy typing before i realized there was this new and important thread..

Gotta give Petumenos a lot of credit and an Oscar for Perfect Timing.!

——
While it can be said today is a sad day for Baracks Gram, her passing isn’t all sad.. How can i know this?? Overheard in a conference call from God and Gramma Dunham..:

God.. “Hi sweetie, how are you today?”
Gram.. “God, is it really you?? I’m kinda tired, but you knew that.”
God.. “I know how you feel, it’s been a tough fight for you. I thought i’d call and ask a few things.”
Gram.. “Huh, I’m sorry, but I don’t generally talk to God”
God.. “Well, you know all of us here in Heaven just adore your Grandson, Barack. He’s become a man you can be very proud of.”
Gram.. “Yes, thank God. Ohh, sorry.. ! He’s never let me down and even though we had our share of tussles, he’s always been a good boy and we’re all very proud of him.. But, if you’re callin, I’m guessin there’s a reason”
God..”Well, yes my dear. I admit there is. I am sure you know. We need to discuss your Earthly Transition”:
Gram..”Oh dear, it is really time?”
God.. “Well, yes and no. I’ve decided I’d sorta cheat a little and give you an option”
Gram..”Ummm, what do you mean?”
God.. “well, since we all adore Barack, and really have a lot of problems with those naughty kids, John and Sarah, I thought i’d give you a choice tonight”
Gram..”Oh do tell.. I am thinking I like that you sound a little devious, and people say God doesn’t have a sense of humor!”
God..”Well, oh yes, we laugh all the time. Moses and Jesus have food fights, those silly boys, JFK and RFK are always pulling pranks, although I don’t always approve of John and John Jr running around like little spoiled kids with their Martha’s Vineyard accents..but you know those goofy Catholics..”
Gram..”You’re going to make me wait and wait, aren’t you?”
God..”I’m sorry my dear.. Here’s the deal. If you want to hang around on earth, you’re welcome to wait til tomorrow to come to heaven.”
Gram..”Well, of course, i’d love to wait til after the election.. What’s my other choice?”
God..”Hmm, well, if you’d like to come to heaven tonight, we had a vote of the elders and decided we’d let you be in charge of counting votes..”
Gram didn’t take a second to make her decision.

3 11 2008
nilipstick

can’t wait

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee

3 11 2008
Anchor Jack

Where are the Palin medical records?

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

My seatbelt is buckled, top down, hair flying, driving 100mph…………..

What a RIDE!!!!!

3 11 2008
Susie in Jersey

STOP ALREADY – I CAN’T KEEP UP WITH ALL THE BREAKING NEWS!!!
🙂

3 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

Oh, we are in for a ride. And I thought we couldn’t possibly have any more news tonight. (11.30pm here).

3 11 2008
Deb

WOW!!! they are actually releasing it tonight?? I can’t believe it……i have to go work for obama in an hour…..I may miss all the excitement!

In the meantime, Nate at fivethirtyeight released the story behind the numbers…. here is a teaser of it…

Monday, November 3, 2008
Today’s Polls, 11/3 (PM Edition)

With fewer than six hours until voting begins in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire, the national polling picture has cleared up considerably. Barack Obama is on the verge of a victory, perhaps a decisive victory, in the race for the White House.

The national polls have all consolidated into a range of roughly Obama +7.

3 11 2008
White Agate

I need a drink!

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Incredibly busy, exciting day.

I’m mostly lurking and trying to get caught up.

3 11 2008
prettybrown

Oh yeah it is on now. I cant wait. I have to go to class now I will check back when I get back. Anybody watching SNL tonight at 9

3 11 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

What a classic mindf@ck of a decision.
If you care about the results enough for it it influence whether you vote for a ticket with Palin on it, you have to wait long enough to risk your vote not counting.

If you’re a hardcore Palin supporter, you go around spouting nonsense about how “open” La Palin is being.

I am 100% convinced now that Petumenos has been sucked into the dark side, otherwise he would not allow this kind of gaming of the results.

I will be shocked if proven wrong.

3 11 2008
sheesh aka Puck Mule Palin

Anchor Jack….no medical records forthcoming. Apparently Mooselini is refusing to release them now. And why should she? She’s toast!

HOWEVER….should she ever wish to seek a higher office in the future those records can’t stay hidden forever. She’s hiding something…

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

sheesh.. she’s hiding lots and lots of stuff.. i doubt we even know all the stuff she’s done yet..

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@Marty,

Love it!!!!!!!!!! That one is especially sweet with a funny edge. Should be posted (all of your little nuggets, actually) on all of the Right WingNUT sites….

Somehow, I don’t think they would be laughing as hard as we are!

Okay, now hot bathwater awaits. I can’t believe I’m doing this. Withdrawl is not going to be pretty!

3 11 2008
Blue Lonestar

It is so sad that Obama’s grandmother did not make it through the election.

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

OT and important news:

this is the NEW LINK to watch MSNBC or Faux online. (there is also a chat window there, which has been overrun by trolls) but I suspect we could take it back, rather handily!

http://www.blinkotv.com/

You don’t need to do the little download thingy,,,, at least I didn’t. Just click on the “now playing” button and choose your poison.

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Blue.. read my post from a few min back.. you’ll see the true story ..:)

3 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

Goalie Sanka Palin in NM (15:30:02) :
I so promised myself an early night tonight and you are saying it is only another hour. Will I stay up?

3 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I think an exhoneration will not help Palin in the election tomorrow …but a bad report will drive the final nails into the coffin of their campaign.

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Obama is on right now.

3 11 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

I can’t imagine that they would release it this afternoon unless there was something significant. Something the investigator thinks should be known before the election.

3 11 2008
Lulu

I, too, am sad about Toot. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Obama family.

On this news on this thread….wow, wow, wow…I am already in such trouble in terms of work…but now I will be GLUED to this site, and the ADN site….

AGH!!!!

3 11 2008
Susie in Jersey

Did you hear Chuck Todd saying that 44% of Obama supporters will, in effect, go to the ends of the earth for him because they love him so much, vs. only 24% of McCain supporters. He was talking about us, Mudflatters!

3 11 2008
ocliberal

Wow! Akm. You have have a very busy day.

But first, my sympathies too to the Obama family and the death of his dearly loved grandmother – an amazing woman. My thoughts and prayers go out to them. What a strange place for Barack Obama to be in right now – facing an amazing place in history and saying good-bye to one of the most important and influential people in his life.

3 11 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Off topic, but nice to know about….

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/mccains-crowd-disturbingl_n_140412.html

McGumby looking a little lonely!

3 11 2008
Seachele Hussein Barack

Anxiously awaiting the verdict – hurry up already!

3 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

@Ripley,
Thanks for the blinkotv.com link. Lost my coverage today.

3 11 2008
mwTHATONE40yrsAnchorage

Marty: Just suggesting that you self-publish (at the very least) you stories thus far posted…..it would be fun to have them available through this site, or yours, or whatever…..
All together, all told, you might have the makings of a movie or two….one for the big kids (us) and one for the littler kids. Go, team!

Blue lights & candles all around!

3 11 2008
Blue Lonestar

Marty (VA),
I just read your post. Thanks! Got home from work and tryig to catch up with all the news and posts. Can’t wait to find out what the report said.

3 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Oh my gosh. Election EVE? Wonder if it will be a whitewash?

I know the Branchwater Report added to the cumulative negative picture of Sarah Palin. It didn’t seem to faze the McFervent supporters. But it had to have contributed to Palin’s negatives.

3 11 2008
JR50

Senator Obama is speaking at North Carolina now and it is so sad because he is tearing up during his speech. What a very long road he has traveled. I am so sad about his great loss during this very difficult time. May tomorrow be a new beginning for him!

3 11 2008
mmboucher (Florida)

Sen. Obama was just on cnn, talking about toots, he was quite emotional, blinking back tears, and wiping the side of his cheek. Very very sad.

3 11 2008
Canada

let me guess…she was more honest then Ted so she is good to go!

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Chicago (from Mudstock II)-

Are you on here tonight?
I just read your post about your kitty. I’m so,so sorry for your loss.
She had a wonderful, long life with you.
My sympathies. Please use my card if you wish.

3 11 2008
nonni_g

KARMA meet Sarah

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Susie in Jersey (15:42:49) :

Did you hear Chuck Todd saying that 44% of Obama supporters will, in effect, go to the ends of the earth for him because they love him so much, vs. only 24% of McCain supporters. He was talking about us, Mudflatters!
_____
Amen, sister!

3 11 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Palin 2012 registered in AK

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1108/Palin2012com.html?showall

Let’s hope after the announcement, this site just never gets up and running, but stays with the same “under construction” sign on it forever.

Or that is means “serving 20 months-12 years in the state prison 🙂

3 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

I was impressed with the honest emotion Barak showed. And yet is still carrying on. His grandmother did a good job raising him. Barak and his sister were fortunate to have her.

3 11 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

McCain looking a little lonely this morning, let’s hope its an indicator of the way his whole day goes!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/mccains-crowd-disturbingl_n_140412.html

3 11 2008
3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

that domain was registered by an alaskan..

JAY GRIFFIN
P O BOX 230068
ANCHORAGE, AK 99523-0068
US
anyone know him? I have a feeling he’s a domain speculator.. bought it to later sell it at a huge profit.. haha..

3 11 2008
Deb

nonni- I was thinking the same thing! How convenient for her to be in AK as the report is being released!! It’s either Karma or RIGGED.

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

I think there are people in alaska with an attitude..

1..Barbie isn’t going to push us around anymore..!
2..Alaskans got one hell of a sense of humor..

3 11 2008
White Agate

Phew! Had a drink of water, the other one in a minute.

I am so glad Obama went to see his grandmother, he must have known. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling, but she must have been at peace, having seen him and knowing how hard he was working.

All family is important, but there is something special about grandmas. I miss both of mine all the time. Our family is sending him energy to get through these next days.

Waiting for the latest, AKM. Another ‘you can’t make this stuff up’ moment. I can’t figure out what the timing of it means. Talk about 11th hour stuff.

3 11 2008
AKaurora

I believe Petumenos had said 2-3 weeks ago that he would report to the Personnel Board today as it’s a scheduled meeting day for them.

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

rf11 in FL (15:49:51) :

Susie in Jersey (15:42:49) :

Did you hear Chuck Todd saying that 44% of Obama supporters will, in effect, go to the ends of the earth for him because they love him so much, vs. only 24% of McCain supporters. He was talking about us, Mudflatters!
_____
Amen, sister!
———————–

That’s the truth. I know I was ready from the 2004 DNC. I just never dreamed my chance to follow him would come so soon!

3 11 2008
UK Lady Turning Turtle Annette AKA UK Lady

NOV 4th in the UK!!! and it’s heading your way fast.

A bright, shiny new day for America and a sigh of relief from the rest of us.

Can’t wait for Troopergate II to nail the gruesome twosome’s a**es.

Can almost hear Toots laughing from heaven!!

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Will the hits never keep coming…

I’ve been on a fairly even keel but I don’t know what to make of the torrent of emotions inside… grief yet joy about Toot, her suffering is over and a page turns and now O must show what he’s kept inside him from her… amazement that yet another official report on Sarah’s “doings” is coming out just hours before the most incredible election of my life (and I’ve been voting since Nixon first ran), and trepidation for what the report may say or imply…

This all on the heels of new terribly nasty robo calls and TV ads smearing O, and uplifting bright and beautiful videos and conversation in support of the change O represents…

Candles. Blue. Breath in, breath out. A time for us … finally? I want to hug people, I want to cry, I am already planning on running out into the street tomorrow night loudly proclaiming … something …

I find myself daring to hope that I can shout, “YES!!!!!”

3 11 2008
Rankle Hiway Palin

Anybody else superstitious? Anyone with any little rituals or good luck charms to make absolutely sure about tomorrow? Me, I’ve been wearing my yellow J Crew Michelle Obama sweater (from when she was on Leno) and will vote in CA wearing it tomorrow — would love to hear if any other mudflatters are a little crazy?

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

@Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird (15:30:44)

That was just beautiful. Thank you!

3 11 2008
NSWFM

prettybrown (15:34:37) :

Anybody watching SNL tonight at 9

Yes, for me in CA. I’ve fallen asleep and missed too many bits.

3 11 2008
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3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Update: Obama asks for donations to cancer research in his Toot’s name, instead of flowers etc…

3 11 2008
John

The conference started 35 minutes ago. Nothing on the adn site… has anyone heard what the report contains?

3 11 2008
rachelbirds

Glad Palin will be
in the state tonight — she’s such
a snake in the grass.

http://thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/november-3-2008-6/

3 11 2008
Tess In TX

If, indeed, the findings go against Palin it will be unfortunate that it might get buried by election day coverage (at least in the lower 48). It will be interesting to hear what Troopergate II reveals and, whatever it reveals we need to continue to push the findings of the Legislative Counsel everywhere we can.

Obama 2K12!

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@John (16:04:33) :

If you’re relying on the time stamp on the entries on this site your the time, they’re an hour off. It appears that the switch to Standard Time hasn’t caught up with wordpress. It’s just 3:07 AST right now, so they won’t be starting for another 23 minutes.

BTW, AKM, why hasn’t the time stamp updated? Any clue?

3 11 2008
Susie in Jersey

@Carol(Chicago,IL) (15:58:07) :

That’s the truth. I know I was ready from the 2004 DNC. I just never dreamed my chance to follow him would come so soon!

That brings me to question. When did Barack Obama first come onto your personal radar screen? I honestly don’t remember that there was a particular event, but I do remember having a WOW! moment and thinking this is “the guy.”

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@ Rankle Hiway Palin (16:00:05) :

Hahahaha….we all are! Doncha know? We have candles lit, blue lights turned on and for me personally, I have an Obama Poster on the wall that I leave lipstick kisses on.

Okay, who wants to top that one?

3 11 2008
mickeymusing

Shoot. I forgot about the time change and have been bouncing between sites for info on the report, which hasn’t actually been released yet. Obsessed much?

Rankle Hiway Palin (16:00:05) :

My son has been rereading To Kill a Mockingbird and is taking his copy with him to the polling place tomorrow for luck (I voted early already). We live in a very red area of Maricopa County (Phoenix) AZ and he he hopes the spirit of Atticus Finch will infect his fellow voters.

3 11 2008
Edie

See Obama’s image in sand/gravel in Barcelona, Spain (sorry if duplication)

http://www.artjammer.com/expectation.html

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

I think it’s almost time for an historic event in American History.

And amazing as it would have seemed not long ago, it’s not that a black man will live in the White House. But an inspirational man will live in the White House, and that’s not been the case in many, many years. Everyone says since JFK, and I’d have to agree.

A man who’s compelling, with a wonderful smile and laugh, who makes us want to listen, simply because he speaks.

We’ve endured so many years of Bushisms, of some of the most moronic comments a president could have ever said.

We’ve had two uninspiring Democratic choices in Gore and Kerry, and they were truly the ‘lesser of two evil’ choices. Certainly, better than Bush would have been, but nothing that caused inspiration.

Now, with Obama, the man with the funny name, and big ears, who’s (shhh) black, and just not the norm when it comes to an American President, finally, in a generation, a man who will become the start of change in America.

I think he’ll not only inspire us, but he’ll talk to allies around the world, and will talk to some not so friendly people as well. And my guess, is after a few conversations with Obama, even some hard line countries may realize that not only is America stronger, but the leader of the free world can make them better if they’re willing to listen and find alternatives for terror and hatred.

They knew, we all knew, if John McCain won the presidency, they’d all be targets of our seemingly limitless power. But, with the power of one voice, of one man, the chances for the world will improve dramatically after tomorrow and on Jan 20, we will start.

To coin a phrase, “One small step for America, one giant leap for Mankind”

Our prayers are with Obama with the loss of his grandmother, and his success as the newest President of The United States.

Tomorrow about this time, it’ll all be offical.!

3 11 2008
John

@nJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein: Arg, I didn’t realize the Alaskan timezone difference! Thanks!

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@ Edie,

Saw that on CNN – Awesome. The whole world wants Obama. He will change the world. I’m so happy I dont’ need wine….but…will get it anyway. Tee Hee.

Happy and sad…but there HAS to be a positive reason for Toots to pass. Wiping his tears in his Florida speech…I broke down.

3 11 2008
ds55

3:30 Alaska time is 17 minutes from now.

3 11 2008
Mollys Mum

@Deb (15:33:40)

Where did you get the story from fivethirtyeight, Deb? When I go to the sight it’s still “DEVELOPING.”

@BigSlick–it’s okay, you’re a day ahead of yourself. By election eve, I am pretty sure AKM meant tonight– a la Christmas Eve, not the evening of Election Day itself.

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Well. Welcome home, Sarah! Your day of reckoning is at hand.

Can’t wait to read the report!

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@John (16:11:53) :

Ah, yes, Alaska has its own time zone (1 hour off from Pacific), so I’m guessing that’s where you are. But the site doesn’t seem to have updated to Standard Time either, which is somewhat confusing. And the time stamps here are Alaskan time (Daylight for now, but…).

3 11 2008
Bea

So, I’m a little confused. It the report being released PUBLICLY or just to Mooselini’s hand-picked Personnel Board??? Do you know, AKM??

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Susie-

I’m kind of embarassed to say, that until the 2004 speech, I was just aware of him. But, the night I heard him speak, I called my dad in CA and we just raved. I still cry when I hear that speech.

Does anyone know if there is a compilation of his speeches? Either CD or DVD. I would really like to own such a thing.

3 11 2008
Sparky

BREAKING NEWS
(my sincere apologies if this has been posted)
please visit fivethirtyeight.com for win percentage update!!!
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/obama-marches-toward-victory.html#comments

3 11 2008
Sparky

damn….just went up posts and saw…sorry, but great news!

3 11 2008
DrChill

Happy election eve !

American Prayer – Dave Stewart (Barack Obama Music Video)

3 11 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

For anyone feeling anxiety over the outcome of the election, here is something to strengthen you.

3 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

November 4th in Ireland now, also.
Make us proud America.
Feeling a little emotional – Go Obama!
Best thoughts and wishes to all who are voting.

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@Bea (16:14:26) :

The Personnel Board was presented with the report ealier today and has voted to release it, by which I take it to mean to the public. Here’s the ADN link to the article: http://www.adn.com/palin/story/577271.html

3 11 2008
RLS

The report will be released to the public. The board already met earlier today. Story in ADN.

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/577271.html

3 11 2008
nocalgal

Marty- great little tale. Sweet.

So sad for the Obama family. I know his grandmother knew he had won- still. I cannot believe having to do all this in front of the world, when your heart is breaking. I cannot imagine. I grieve for them all.

***

as for SP. She IS Toast. and those medical records will come out if she thinks about a future political career. MY bet is tubes were tied following Piper… and/or an abortion… my oh my.

She will never be able to side step that issue if she wants national position.

GO ALASKA! Cannot WAIT to see the personnel board info and the “welcome” home SP will get later….

3 11 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

@Rankle Hiway Palin (16:00:05) :

‘To Kill A Mockingbird’ is my all time favorite book…

3 11 2008
suchanut

10 minutes

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Will we be able to watch the news conference releasing the report? Any body have a link?

3 11 2008
Lil' Geese Whalebone Palin

No fingernails left………

3 11 2008
nocalgal

OBAMA HEADQUARTERS- NOVEMBER 3, 2008..

have a little break…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ijYVyhnn0

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

I can’t stand the waiting. Nine minutes and I can hardly breathe…

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Susie, I’d sort of been watching O through the start of the Democratic primaries. But it wasn’t until he gave that speech countering the crap being thrown at him regarding Reverend Wright — that awesome, incredible speech that took the race issue on, head on — that I knew this was someone I would support. I’ve gone back and read it and listened to it a couple times since. For me, it was a real turning point. It showed me that O had what it would take to get above the racial issue, to see the entire stick instead of just one end or the other. It was beautiful.

Yes, I saw his DNC speech in 2004, but I just thought he was a good speaker and a young up’n’comer in the party, and didn’t think much more at that time.

3 11 2008
John

@InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein: Yep, I’m in Seattle. Ah well, T minus seven minutes and counting….

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

I’ll just bet that AKM will have it posted momentarily.

Watch for a new posting or at ADN…I’m going to pop an ADN window up just in case.

3 11 2008
Troopergate II being released tonight. « the bruce blog

[…] Troopergate II Report to be Released at 3:30 Election Eve! […]

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

I just got a Robo call from BARACK !!!!!

THAT ONE I listened to….;)

3 11 2008
Lil' Geese Whalebone Palin

1 DAY MORE…….

3 11 2008
nocalgal

Edie (16:08:59) :

See Obama’s image in sand/gravel in Barcelona, Spain (sorry if duplication)

http://www.artjammer.com/expectation.html

wow.. what a photo. Maybe he was watching Toot fly to heaven…

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@John (16:22:18) :

Ah, lovely city. I have relatives there. Six minutes to go…

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

I dare you to look at these without benefit of kleenex.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/tears-for-obama-photos_n_140582.html

3 11 2008
More Light than Heat

I recall watching his 2004 DNC speech and thinking, “That guy’s presidential material.” I didn’t expect it this soon. But oh how much we need his vision, his faith in America and Americans. I feel like I’m going to wake up on 11/5 and know that our “long national nightmare is over.” True, there’ll be a few more months, but for the first time in a while I have such hope.

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Gettin’ the wine. Okay, ready!

3 11 2008
Lara

I think this is soo wrong – regardless of the results. It gives neither party time to respond. Sounds political to me – not going to guess at the agenda, but political.

3 11 2008
Trudger

Drumming fingers on desk.

3 11 2008
mickeymusing

To AKM and my fellow Mudflatters,

While we wait for the other shoe to drop with the report, I just want to take a minute to thank you all for helping me preserve my last shred of sanity during this crazy election season. I cried when George Bush was re-elected in 2004 and believed our country had been irretrievably stolen and damaged. I think we don’t even know how bad things are yet and won’t until this gang of hoodlums is out of DC.

I think of myself as a rational, educated, stoic ‘Scandanavian’ type person, but I have been an obsessed, emotional mess pretty much throughout this election, developing goosebumps listening to a candidate reinforce the promise that is America and allowing myself to actually feel hope for the first time in years. I fear I have now become goosebump prone, as the sand and gravel Obama from Spain raised a few mini-moguls, too. I know you will all understand when I confess to having been not such a great employee and not such a great housekeeper for the past month watching this historic event in our history play out. I thank you for being fellow travelers and helping me maintain my sanity. I am crossing everything for tomorrow and hope to celebrate with you all on Wednesday!

3 11 2008
Mel

So it’s going to be released publicly? Huh… it’s just 5 minutes from 3:30 now… another November surprise?

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Gosh it feels a bit like Christmas Eve…

3 11 2008
Blue Lonestar

CNN just said report clear of Palin of any ethical violation!

3 11 2008
LA

@Rankle Hiway Palin (16:00:05) :

Anybody else superstitious? Anyone with any little rituals or good luck charms to make absolutely sure about tomorrow? Me, I’ve been wearing my yellow J Crew Michelle Obama sweater (from when she was on Leno) and will vote in CA wearing it tomorrow — would love to hear if any other mudflatters are a little crazy?
____________________________________________________
OK…How about this. I sleep with my Obama/Biden button pinned on my jammies.
Where are you in Calif? We talked last night about a Mudstock3 here in Cal. I’m in Sacramento.

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

I think they been busting their humps to get it out there before the election. It’s too bad that it’s the ninth hour, but I bet there are a lot of folks waiting for it to drop.

3 11 2008
RLS

Report is out.

No probable cause to believe governor violated any acts.

3 11 2008
chascates

Is the news conference going to be broadcast on the online FM station that did the first one? And can someone post a link so I can check? Thanks!

3 11 2008
yellowdoggranny

maybe it will be enough to keep her from running in 2012…

3 11 2008
mickeymusing

Lara (16:25:55) :,

Early on in the process, the Board had prearranged meeting dates on Oct 27 and Nov 3. They didn’t know if they would have a report by then, but the dates were actually scheduled in advance and published in ADN. Still could be political, I suppose, and I’m surprised they got it done so quickly, but they had planned to meet today no matter what.

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Blue Lonestar (16:27:27) :

CNN just said report clear of Palin of any ethical violation!
————-
How could that be? It’s not yet 3:30 pm Alaska time?

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Carol(Chicago,IL) (15:49:32) :

Chicago (from Mudstock II)-

Are you on here tonight?

————–
Hiya Carol(Chicago,IL) I just got home… It was an honor to meet you yesterday, sorry we couldn’t visit more at Pizano’s.

3 11 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Anybody from Georgia knows that Saxby Chambliss needs to lose because he screwed his opponent, Max Cleland—

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

DrChill-
That video is just so beautiful. I’ve never seen it before. Thank you, thank you. In tears.

3 11 2008
RLS

Report says:

McCloud case should be dismissed, again no probable cause

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Abuse of power, but not ethics violation….

Okay. That makes sense.

3 11 2008
RLS

Looks like report clears Palin. No Joy…..

3 11 2008
Blue Lonestar

Lou Dobbs made that statement about the report.

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

judi hussein that one Obama (16:29:32) :

Anybody from Georgia knows that Saxby Chambliss needs to lose because he screwed his opponent, Max Cleland—
————-
Yes, he does. We’ll see. This is already being reported as ‘up in the air’.

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Well, it is what it is…

I hate that saying!

3 11 2008
Mel

mickeymusing, I know what you mean! I had to go to bed as soon as I got home from work the first two nights after the 2004 election, because I couldn’t bear to be awake! I fully intended to just ignore the election this year except to vote, & then McCain had to tap our disastrous rightwing religious extremist of a governor as his running mate. I’m still scared to death that the Repubs will pull some kind of steal-the-vote shenanigan as in 2000 — I won’t feel safe until the election is called for Obama tomorrow night, & McCain has made his concession.

And then I can feel some peace, knowning that affairs will be in the right hands. It’s still gonna be a tough time ahead for all of us, but with the kind of leadership I think Obama & Biden will provide, I know that Americans will be able to be proud again, & will regain the respect of the world.

And count on us Alaskans to hold Palin to account when she comes home.

3 11 2008
jadewillowmilian

Look at one post of vile comments over at freerepublic- I say we visit the site tomorrow after the win to “Make it rain on them Hoes”

http://buzzword101.com/bw/2008/11/03/wow/

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Shikago-

I felt the same way! I didn’t get to really meet everyone. Well, that just means more meet ups.
After Obama wins, there’s still a lot of work ahead of all of us to rebuild this country-we’ll all need to be community organizers.

I so enjoyed yesterday. Thanks again for all you did to make it happen.
BTW, where do you put your koi over the winter? Or, is your pond dep enough for overwintering?

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Mel (16:32:14) :
————————————————————
We’re counting on you Alaskans!

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

crap! CNN reports no violations!!!

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

OK, so is anyone else packing for Baracks rally in Grant Park tomorrow night? I am, radical socialist hussein supporter that I am. My late mother & son, and I wouldn’t miss it for the world. Tell me if any of you other Chicagoans are planning to go. I hope to report directly to Mudflats from the rally using my cell. I know it’s like so dorktastic but I am going to try anyway, I can e-mail photo’s directly to AKM.

3 11 2008
Bev

I just saw someone post that CNN said the new investigation finds her not guilty.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama/Biden ’08

3 11 2008
ds55

@ Crust Scramble – SouthGA (16:29:22) ://
Blue Lonestar (16:27:27) :
CNN just said report clear of Palin of any ethical violation!
————-
How could that be? It’s not yet 3:30 pm Alaska time?//

They’re trying Palin’s trick. Just declare she’s been cleared and hope people believe it.

3 11 2008
248 Crayons

Posted at 7:21pm Eastern time…on CNN….what a joke. Well, tell it to the polls, lady, because I feel like she’s going down in flames. Look out below!!!

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Shikago-

Embrace your inner dorktastic! Those of us at home are counting on you. I’ll watch for you on TV🙂

3 11 2008
Lulu

What??? NO VIOLATION????

Wah.

3 11 2008
mickeymusing

Kind of a bummer, but it’s not going to change anything anyway in the national election. It will probably make Palin’s Alaska political career a little easier. I guess it just shows that what you know to be true and what you can prove to be true using legal standards are not necessarily the same thing. Feel bad for Walt Monegan, though. It would have been nice for him to have the backing of the Personnel Board. I’m guessing this means he can’t pursue a civil action against her?

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Dang, I keep refreshing. Anybody know which tv station will be breaking this?

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Well, she is not going to get so lucky with Housegate (or Babygate IMHO).

So, do not be sad…be glad that tomorrow brings in a new era.

Blue kool-aid anyone? I have plenty to go around!

3 11 2008
Anonymous

“No probable cause” This is an obvious whitewash.

3 11 2008
248 Crayons

Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago (16:34:01) :

OK, so is anyone else packing for Baracks rally in Grant Park tomorrow night?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Of course you would totally ROCK for doing that for the Mudflats Crew! I used to Chi town – I’m sure the vibe will be off the charts tomorrow!!!

3 11 2008
Mel
3 11 2008
Bev

I no longer believe in any legal system…it’s all crap.
One finds her guilty and the other does not.
The ones she can fire!!

3 11 2008
248 Crayons

errrr….LIVE…I used to LIVE….duh!

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

she lied. contradicted things directly, including conversations having never occurred.

3 11 2008
LA

OHHHH No…SP cleared of any ethicial violations…..RATS…since I don’t want to get spammed.
This really is the PITS.

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Carol(Chicago,IL) (16:33:24) :
My koi and all the other game fish, just hang in the deep section for the winter. If a pond is at least 24 inches they do fine. A portion of my pond is 3 feet deep. Deep enough to breed successfully, afterall I want them to be happy fishies.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

So can we go for 2 out of 3 investigations?

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

they are trashing Monegan. I hope he sues.

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

ALASKA WHAT NOW???

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

I don’t understand the discrepancy in the times. They’re gonna release it at 3:30 and CNN reports it 9 minutes earlier. Interesting.

3 11 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Lou Dobbs at CNN is such a tool.

He is so obviously trying to drag Barack Obama down right now.

His main talking point is to demand an investigation into why Obama’s aunt has not yet been deported and stirring that pot.

What an idiot.

3 11 2008
Diane

Is it true she had 17-18,000 people at her rally today?
Where do they get these people. How in the world is there enough kool aid.

It is really up to Alaskans now to make sure she does not run for office in the lower 48 again.

Please guys she can’t be near the White House

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

He just said that they agree with Branchflower’s report that she “didn’t violate ethics”… wait a minute…. didn’t he find her guilty? They are doubletalking.. and it’s sickening.

3 11 2008
suchanut

Tune in at CC’s Cutting Edge radio show for the conversation about Troopergate

http://www.kudo1080.com/Default.asp

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Rachel and KO will put it in perspective. This is NOT all bad—–Legislative investigation, guilty: personal board investigation, not guilty…Hmmmmm. Why?

3 11 2008
empish

For ethics violation she should be investigated for spending public funds to shuttle her family around the country as she campaigns, not to mention the 3 state employees accompanying her.(All collecting substantial salaries) If she empowered the Lt Governor to run state business in her absence, We wouldn’t be footing the bill.

3 11 2008
Tess In TX

Wait…doesn’t the state constitution uphold the Legislative Counsel investigation and it’s findings?

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

We have the testimony from the Legislative Council report. We read it. We saw how many times she approached people in the Dept of Public Safety. We saw how many OTHER people, including her husband and her staff, approached people in the Dept of Public Safety.

You can’t just wave a magic wand and make all that testimony null and void.

Where are Sarah and Todd’s depositions, please?

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Ferget Lou Dobbs…I tuned in tonight and it’s the same old same old. Every night, Immigration………

That’s why he brought up the Aunt again…Lou doesn’t want anyone south of the border in the US…I’m sick of him calling himself an Independent. Sheesh……

3 11 2008
Lila aka Bang Walmart

Hi to all in Chicago! It was great to meet you all yesterday at Mudstock II. I had a wonderful time, and also wish that there was time to talk with more of you.

3 11 2008
RLS

Report on ADN website. Also denies a hearing for Walt M.

3 11 2008
Mel

I’ve gotta take this with a grain of salt. Remember that the Personnel Board is made up of Murkowski & Palin appointees. Though the actual investigator, Petumenos, is supposed to be pretty thorough. But I wouldn’t count on this being over, or preventing either Wooten or Monegan being able to proceed with court suits, since the Personnel Board is not a judicial body (any more than the Legislative Council is). Standards of evidence in court may still carry the day.

None of this is going to influence tomorrow’s election greatly anyway.

Meanwhile, I’ve already know who Sarah Palinocchio should choose as her 2012 running mate: Sam “Joe the Plumber” Weasel-backer. And her campaign slogan? Sarah Palinochio, the plumber’s friend. Haaaahahaahahaa. Toilet plungers for Palin!

3 11 2008
Sue

OFF TOPIC BUT…..I have just seen the news that Barack’s grandma passed away late Sunday evening. This is so sad and depressing. She had cancer. Praise the Lord that he got to see her one more time.

3 11 2008
Melissa

A great slideshow of the Senator and Michelle on the campaign trail. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/the-obamas-greatest-pda-m_n_130947.html

They are going to be a great first couple🙂

3 11 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

Oh sh*te.
Going to bed now.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

RLS–

I don’t see it on ADN…..

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

RLS, I do not see a report on the ADN site yet. Please provide a link.

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

suchanut, great link.. they are trashing the report as crazy and impossible.

3 11 2008
Trini

I am so ticked off. I just got a robocall on my cell phone! Some state politician. Never heard of him.

Shikago: be safe. Remember 1968!
Chicago: Sorry about the loss of your kitty.

So nervous about the election. I’m taking my camera into the booth. Pins and needles my mudpups, pins and needles. So thanks nocalgal (16:21:34) for the needed break. Love it!

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (16:45:29) :

It’s here in the Alaska Politics Blog: http://community.adn.com/adn/node/133919

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

I’m anxious for AKM to weigh in. AKM will have a fresh perspective and a soothing retort.

All is well in happy land….don’t forget we are electing the most dynamic, world changing fabulous man with a family that is equally so.

WE WIN…….WE WIN!!!

3 11 2008
strangelet Hussein

Relax. The IRS will not care about either investigation. The per diem and travel charges are still there, and as far as the IRS cares, it doesn’t matter what Palin’s captive accountants have to say.

It is unavoidable that she is allowed to fire damn near anyone for any or no reason. I still think Walt M may be able to get after her for slander regarding her published (and ever-changing) reasons for firing him.

3 11 2008
ira2

Ennealogic (16:41:34) :

We have the testimony from the Legislative Council report. We read it. We saw how many times she approached people in the Dept of Public Safety. We saw how many OTHER people, including her husband and her staff, approached people in the Dept of Public Safety.

You can’t just wave a magic wand and make all that testimony null and void.

Exactly. How in the world could anybody discount those statements (which were made under oath, right?) or count them and yet find her not guilty of ethics violations? It doesn’t wash any way you look at it, not legally anyway.

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Repost

suchanut (16:40:48) :

Tune in at CC’s Cutting Edge radio show for the conversation about Troopergate

http://www.kudo1080.com/Default.asp

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Hi Lila-

Great to have met you yesterday.

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Unbelievable. They are backing the McCain campaign that the Branchflower investigation was partisan. What?

I figured it was going to be favorable, or they wouldn’t have voted to quickly release it on the election eve.

Good luck to my brethren in Alaska. I’m afraid you’re in for a rough ride.

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

These are particularly the times I can’t believe I don’t have cable….

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Thanks Injuneau—-I’ll be back!

3 11 2008
Joy from Wisconsin aka Chisel Dustup Palin

If I believed in coincidences I’d say this was an amazing coinicidence–the clearing of Sarah Palin by a board that is hired by and can be fired by her on the *very eve of the election.* What are the odds???

Unfortunately, I don’t believe in coincidences. The timing of this really stinks. I smell McCain’s campaign all over it.

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

ok wait… wait… we didn’t expect anything different here. It was her own people.. Patsies.

Alaskans for Truth will continue the good fight…..

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Well, the worm squirmed herself out of this one. There are more to follow. As far as I’m concerned (quoting Sarah) ‘the fat lady hasn’t sung yet’. This is just the first verse.

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT
3 11 2008
Melissa

BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin (16:39:38) :

Lou Dobbs at CNN is such a tool.

He is so obviously trying to drag Barack Obama down right now.

His main talking point is to demand an investigation into why Obama’s aunt has not yet been deported and stirring that pot.

What an idiot.
———-
He is an idiot. I have refused watching him due to his very biased point of view.

I don’t think he realizes that most don’t care about the illegal aunt living in Boston and more care about the fact that Toots passed away earlier, somebody who Sen. Obama admired and treasured so much that he flew 5-6 hours from Indiana to see her 10 days ago.

If Obama is elected into office, I am sure Lou is going hammer this fact until high heaven. Couldn’t he just go to Faux News yet?

3 11 2008
RLS

There are links on the main ADN.com page. Refresh your page. Should show up.

3 11 2008
Lulu

OH MY GOD. Tim P. just said he didn’t get to see all the e-mails! I just heard it on CNN!

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Carol(Chicago,IL) (16:48:25) :

These are particularly the times I can’t believe I don’t have cable….
______
Carol, just go to http://www.kudo1080.com/Default.asp on your computer. They’re covering the report right now.

3 11 2008
Lulu

“Yes, e-mails were deleted.” Tim P. just said that!

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@Carol try…..you’ll get it all (mostly)

http://channelsurfing.net/

3 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

news alert NYT…sorry no link….SWWNBN…off the hook

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

I heard a rumor that Mudstock III is happening tomorrow night in Chicago..

Any truth to the rumor? Supposed to be a million or so mudpuppies there..!

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

I hate that I’ve become such a cynic, but it makes me wonder what Palin, et. al, have on Tim Petumenos.

3 11 2008
Melissa

Alaskans, please vote this woman out of office! She clearly doesn’t know how to use her power correctly.

3 11 2008
Amused and Bewildered

New Troopergate report clears Palin

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/577323.html

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

AND report looks a little fishy to me….Petrumenos says Branchflower used the “wrong” statute? How can that be? Wouldn’t any and all statutes be applicable?

Or can you pick and choose in AK?

They dismiss it all, including the state troopers?

I think this might not be over after all…..

3 11 2008
Jster

I’m not able to open the link but CNN is running live a story seemingly exhonorating the Gov! Huh?

3 11 2008
pvazwindy

SP innocent of ethics charge, 2nd investigation reveals

3 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

New Troopergate report clears Palin AKN
The state Personnel Board-sanctioned investigation is the second into whether Gov. Sarah Palin violated state ethics law in firing her public safety commissioner, and it contradicts earlier findings by a special counsel hired by the Legislature. 3:44 PM

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

AND=ADN—-sorry

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Listen, guys. Palin is coming home tomorrow. These people on the Personnel Board serve at the pleasure of the Governor. If they had found against her, they could be umemployed tomorrow!

3 11 2008
Melissa

Nothing on MSNBC.

3 11 2008
3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Exonerataed? I can’t believe it.

3 11 2008
White Agate

NYT has a flag on their front page. The timing and the nature of this stinks to high heaven. Basically, the McCain campaign sees they are losing Alaska and they want to position Palin for a future run. My husband’s observation was that this is a naked political ploy and that the folks who support her will still do so, those who don’t and who have the real information, won’t.

It is sheer political theatre, and yet another distraction tactic on the part of the McCain camp. They did not have to announce this today, right now.

It’s a panel she appointed, too.

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

GAhhhh….I have to go and cook dinner…NOoooooo

Check in later. This is hard to tear away. Thank goodness I don’t have a crying baby to neglect.

3 11 2008
Mikal

The Report’s findings:
http://community.adn.com/node/133919
Too bad .. but didn’t think it would any other way .. tho I still hoped!
Tomorrow …

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

@248 Crayons (16:37:50), I undertood you perfectly wish you could be here.

@Lila aka Bang Walmart
It was awesome meeting you. I too, wish we had more time to visit. You were so cool… Thanks for everything

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Can’t wait to hear what Les Gara is going to have to say.

3 11 2008
Sandy Beach

I just arrived in Anchorage for a conference, like, 30 minutes ago. Drove from airport to downtown, hoping for a moose sighting. No dice there, but…

I saw Megan Stapleton right outside the office building where I’m having a meeting! She was in a bright red coat. I turned to an Anchorage friend for confirmation–yep, it was her. I hissed, but not very loud. Didn’t want to embarrass my friend.

Just had to share.

3 11 2008
strangelet Hussein

Joy from Wisconsin aka Chisel Dustup Palin (16:48:44) :
—————————————-

Hey, Joy. I’m from Wisconsin too ( a long way back). This is a “who cares?”. How many people were poised at their TVs or radios, waiting to hear the result of the AK Personnel Board inquiry, in order to decide on their vote in the Presidential election? Three, four? Zero?

Way too late to matter either way. It’s just contextual cover for the alleged investigation.

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

If you google KUDO, you can click on the link to KUDO radio and listen to an Alaskan Air America host, CC, discuss the report.

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Hey, I have to go watch KO, I will be back…

3 11 2008
Catherine Howard

I really thought she’d be found guilty again. I guess the members of the Sarah appointed board really like their positions.
What a bummer.

On the upside, I voted for Obama today!

3 11 2008
nocalgal

My money is on the Legilative investigation- sanctioned by THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH! and not by the beauracracy appointed by the very person being investigated. No this does not sound impartial to me. My money is on the AK Legislature…

oh… and the IRS. As was commented on above- they are not so forgiving as local beauracrats…. hehehehe…

and if the Personnel board really did not have all the material- than it is not worth the paper it is printed upon.

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

More importantly, we’re in South Florida, and the ad with Obama, arm in arm with Jeremiah Wright, is playing about every 10 minutes.

Old news, too late.

I may not sleep at all tonight.

3 11 2008
Jan Arnold

Well, with the “downer” of the news that they have given Sarah a last minute pass on her VERY UNETHICAL behavior and EXTREME ABUSE OF POWER, not to mention crazy husband’s obsessive scary stalking behavior, for a good hearted laugh and some feel good moments, go to funny or die for Ron Howard’s call to action for Obama here: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d/ron-howards-call-to-action-from-ron-howard-and-henry-winkler
and also on TV keep your eyes peeled for Paul Simon soundtrack to great ad for Obama from an independent organization.

3 11 2008
Lulu

Wow, CC on KUDO is really mad and says it’s not over!

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Yeah, CC!
Finally got the link up!

I agree…this is not over yet.

3 11 2008
Julie

I think one of the most poignant points Mr. Petumenos just made is as follows (paraphrasing):

Mr. Bailey, Todd Palin and Governor Palin’s testimony all concurred that no direct inquiry came from the governor.

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

It is on MSNBC now

3 11 2008
Jan Arnold

Sorry – I think the whole address (it is a long one) didn’t make it, but search google for funny or die ron howard’s call to action for Obama

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Julie

I think one of the most poignant points Mr. Petumenos just made is as follows (paraphrasing):

Mr. Bailey, Todd Palin and Governor Palin’s testimony all concurred that no direct inquiry came from the governor.
_____________________________________________
Wow, that’s simply amazing. Who would’ve thought?

3 11 2008
SE_Idaho_Reader

Listening to CC on KUDO. Oh, my goodness. What an outrage on the eve of the election.

3 11 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

msnbc is talking about it now..

it’s irrelevant either way.. she’s done.. they’ll get her on housegate or perdiemgate or childrensairtixgate..

there are loads and loads of things she’s done to get her ass cooked.. take a deep breath and wait for her mooseburgers..

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Ok people,,,, pisshole in the snow here… don’t let it take over your positive thoughts about Obama….

3 11 2008
Laurie

Palin was exonerated by the personnel board..wtf???

3 11 2008
daMamma

From the ADN front page

“The state Personnel Board-sanctioned investigation is the second into whether Gov. Sarah Palin violated state ethics law in firing her public safety commissioner, and it contradicts the earlier findings by a special counsel hired by the Legislature. ”

So, this one finds her innocent of ethics violations? I’m not up on the laws, but I do know unethical when I see it. You can’t get much more UNETHICAL than this.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Anyone find the actual report yet?

I’m looking….

3 11 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

This is really a nonstory. It won’t change any votes. The people who love
SP would vote for her if she shot wolf pups out of helocopters. The people
who don’t like SP have many reasons “not” to vote for her and McCan’t.
It would have been fun for us here at Mudflats , but it’s really no big deal.
IMHO

3 11 2008
PJ

What a surprise. NOT. Exactly what I thought. Dueling investigations!!

3 11 2008
Jan Arnold

Yes, the dirtiest of all the ads are playing now here, too – Rev. Wright but also the very young mother talking about abortion. That one is very manipulative and takes Obama’s words and twists them out of context (what else is new?)

3 11 2008
Mel

ADN story: http://www.adn.com/palin/story/577323.html

Petumenos’ report (a PDF): http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/11/03/12/report-sept12008-complaint.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

I’ve scanned through part of it: so far seems to me that its essentially:

(1) a difference of opinion between Branchflower & Petumenos as to what law exactly applies, & whether Palin was unethical by not restraining Todd Palin or keeping from making channels avaiable for him to pursue the vendetta;

(2) his word against hers: Monegan stated certain conversations between him & Palin that Palin (that is, Palinocchio) denies ever occurred; & unfortunately, Monegan didn’t write down notes at the time that could be given as evidence later that the conversations had occurred.

So, legal difference of opinion, plus Palin growing her nose. That’s what I get so far.

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (16:59:27) :

…don’t let it take over your positive thoughts about Obama….
______________________________
Here, here!

3 11 2008
Lulu

I feel for Alaskans. It’s like the RNC and the McCain campaign has pulled a mini-legal coup in your state….kind of like what Bush/Cheney did to America in 2000…

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Never mind, it is up now.

Apparently, Sarah denied talking to Walt about things he testified to, and the Personnel Board took her word over his.

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Gosh…OK …KO is on..everyone bail. See if he has a spin we can live with!

3 11 2008
Sandy Beach

I bet when I saw Megan she was coming from the briefing. No wonder she looked so happy & chatty.

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

@Lurker “That one” Hussein Palin

The people who love SP would vote for her if she shot wolf pups out of helocopters.
__________________________
So sad.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

from the ADN

These findings differ from those of the Branchflower Report because Independent Counsel has concluded the wrong statute was used as a basis for the conclusions contained in the Branchflower Report, the Branchflower report misconstrued the available evidence and did not consider or obtain all of the material evidence that is required to properly reach findings.

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

She doesn’t pass the smell test – she’ll get hers — eventually. Love the picketing plans while she goes and votes tomorrow. Go Alaska. You can get rid of her.

3 11 2008
kas (from Oregon)

Palin exonerated….

3 11 2008
Lulu

Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird (16:59:24) wrote : “msnbc is talking about it now..it’s irrelevant either way.. she’s done.. they’ll get her on housegate or perdiemgate or childrensairtixgate..there are loads and loads of things she’s done to get her ass cooked..”

Yeah, I agree with Marty. Palin is so gate-heavy at this point….

3 11 2008
Miemaw from Texas

ADN has a summary up already.

The personnel board found that the lege used the wrong statues, in thier findings.

11th hour political theatre at its best.

Next up – Monegan’s lawsuit.

After that — Wooten’s lawsuit.

More depositions – and, she won’t be a Republican candidate for VP.
Sooner or later –the truth comes out.

3 11 2008
CO Almost Native

ADN web site says the Personnel Board has cleared Gov. Palin of all charges, although her use of private email to conduct state business needs to be investigated. The article was brief- and, of course, it doesn’t address the issue of how valid the conclusion is, given she appointed all/most of the members.

I smell a rat, perhaps?

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois
3 11 2008
Bea

I watched the investigator on CNN’s internet feed. He was defensive and ANGRY– NOT the affect of a man who thinks he is truly in the right.

3 11 2008
SE_Idaho_Reader

Anybody speak legalese?

Just started reading the Petumenos report. What does “consolidated matter” mean? Why “consolidated?”

No jokes, now!

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

Keep in mind, that Petumenos is leaving this open for further evidence. Most specifically, anything that would prove some of these conversations, which is unlikely, unless there are further witnesses…or emails, which could certainly provide more info. There is still a request out there to get the private emails as well as many of the emails claimed to be covered under executive privelege. In time, we will hopefully see many of these. Even Petumenos had to agree that the use of private email is at best unwise, and that the decision to delete many emails was at best a misunderstanding of proper procedure.
When the emails are seen, Monegan may have some good ammo…as well as the Legislature.
And don’t forget, the legislature still has the ability to investigate this further as well as to act on the subpoena issue. This is not over, I don’t think

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@SE_Idaho_Reader (17:10:53) :

The investigator ended up looking at a few different complaints that were filed against the gov. in a short period of time together, i.e. he “consolidated” them into one larger investigation. The Troopergate stuff was part of it, as was Ms. McLeod’s complaint about hiring.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Jewish women find Sarah Palin unpalatable

‘When Clare Kinberg, editor of a feminist Jewish magazine, set up her booth at an Ann Arbor Jewish community event, she didn’t expect to attract a parade of women eager to vent their rage against Sarah Palin. But woman after woman – perhaps noticing Kinberg’s Barack Obama pin – approached her to tell stories of how John McCain’s vice-presidential pick had galvanized them into becoming active in the Obama campaign.

“She really brought out some ire, fear, something personal,” said Kinberg, who edits the magazine Bridges. “It was almost a visceral reaction that she represented something anathema against Jewish values, something very deep in their identity.” Advertisement

On a political level, it’s no surprise that liberal Jewish women don’t like Palin – they are liberals, after all, and Palin is an avowed and unabashed conservative, in a heated presidential race. But the Alaska governor also seems to strike a raw nerve on a symbolic level for many Jewish women, drawing far more indignation than a male candidate with similar views, almost as if she offends their sense of who they are.”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1034150.html

3 11 2008
mickeymusing

Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca (17:11:42) :,

Last I heard, the Palin administration was charing $15,000,000 to release those emails. I think she will probably get away with this and learn from it only to be more sneaky. It’s sad for the people of Alaska, but really, really unfair to Walt Monegan. I hope this isn’t the end of it, but suspect it probably is. She’ll come back and wreck vengeance on all who crossed her because that’s what a narcissist does. Keeping her from doing harm will end up being a full-time job for the people of Alaska!

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Major b*tch!

Palin Defends Hank Williams, Jr. After He Says, “Obama’s Not Real Crazy About” The National Anthem

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (17:25:49) :

Major b*tch!

Palin Defends Hank Williams, Jr. After He Says, “Obama’s Not Real Crazy About” The National Anthem
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What?? Where is this?

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

The White Witch of the North strikes again. *Turkish Delight, anyone?*

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

S#1T…the Rev Wright adds are on msnbc in NC…is there no end to this?

Printing out the reports—way too hard on my printer.

Be back in a bit.

3 11 2008
DrChill

Carol(Chicago,IL) (16:29:37) :

DrChill-
That video is just so beautiful. I’ve never seen it before. Thank you, thank you. In tears.
================
It gets me choked up… very moving, very powerful and hopeful…

For those of you who have not seen it yet …

American Prayer – Dave Stewart (Barack Obama Music Video)

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

MIckey, this type of charge is common and always ends up coming down. No court would allow it, and that is where it will end up if they don’t reduce the cost….

Most importantly, I think we will see governmental emails return to the state system and no longer go private, in the future. That is the most important thing, getting it right going forward, and letting the Governor know that she is required to follow the rules…or at least some of them!

We all want this investigation to have been the silver bullet. It won’t be. But there is a bunch of stuff coming down the pike, and the accumulation of it will be what determines Palin’s future.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Carol(Chicago,IL) (17:27:34) :

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (17:25:49) :

Major b*tch!

Palin Defends Hank Williams, Jr. After He Says, “Obama’s Not Real Crazy About” The National Anthem
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What?? Where is this?

—————-

.http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/11/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4568103.shtml

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

November 4 just breached the Atlantic Ocean …..

GAME ON!!!😀

3 11 2008
MJC

THIS SMELLS VERY FISHY!

3 11 2008
White Agate

Branchflower was INCREDIBLY meticulous. I highly doubt he used the ‘wrong statute.’ His report was nothing if not methodical and well-versed in the law. If he didn’t have enough data, maybe it was because no one would give statements until it was too late for his initial report, that is, stonewalling. I would take his work over the work of this appointed group.

3 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Lurker “That one” Hussein Palin (17:00:35) :

This is really a nonstory. It won’t change any votes.
++++++++++++++++

Agreed.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Sarah Palin is toast. The Alaska she left behind is not the Alaska she’s returning to. There’s a whole new world of pain awaiting.

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

I never did care for country music, but Hank Williams Jr., with his unsubstantiated slur against Obama, has sealed the deal.

When I went to the Obama rally in Leesburg, VA, a couple weeks ago, we stood with hands over hearts and recited the Pledge of Allegiance and then we continued to stand as a remarkable lady with a wonderful voice sang the National Anthem.

Shame on you, Hank. You know not of what you speak.

3 11 2008
empish

I was actually beginning to feel sick about the conclusion the board came to. Then listened to Obama speak and my spirits were lifted. We here in Alaksa have a few years left to deal with Sarah. Lets focus on tomorrow and a big win for the country!

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

Aussie Puck you are so right on that! Sarah is going to find it interesting there, in between her right wing talk show appearances!

Alaska better plan on spending a lot of travel money from now on…per diems…and of course babysitters with various state titles…

3 11 2008
nocalgal

I agree this is really “non” news.. the first Troopergate got all the attention= here on the eve of the historic election- this will get no real traction.

So Mudpuppies- put it aside and let us celebrate the coming election- victory and MONUMENTAL MOMENT in American History.

3 11 2008
DeMo

I always wondered what a crock of sh!t looked like, sounded like and smelled like. Now I know.

To say I’m disgusted would be putting it mildly.

To say I can’t wait for election returns that will undoubtedly tell Sarah and Johnny Mac what this country thinks of them is an understatement. (Knocking wood, because I’m super superstitious.)

Send Palin packin’ and let Johnny know “his friends” aren’t friends. Let him sing the I Love Lucy tune “We are friends of the friendless, yes we are…”

I feel like a fool for thinking it was a bit sad what McCain has become. Sadness is gone. Anger has entered. Joy will arrive when Obama is declared POTUS, knock on wood.

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

Tomorrow will be the best election since I saw Jack Kennedy get elected! I am really looking forward to this!

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

I have to admit, though, it’s amusing to see Troopergate all over the headlines again.😀

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

KO, “She should at least be able to see Canada from Alaska”………….

Re: guys who pranked her. Too funny!!

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

At least we didn’t hear ‘Tasergate’ today!

3 11 2008
JR50

Wanted to share the following with you guys. Evidently the GOP is filing a compaint against Obama for visiting his dying grandmother. I found the following in one of the comment sections of the Huffington Post:

GOP Files FEC Complainr Friday Over Obama Visit to See Dying Grandmother:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/11/disturbed-desperate-republicans-filed.html

I have written my state and national representatives over this as well as the state and national Republican party over this depraved act by the Republicans. I suggest you all do the same.

3 11 2008
SE_Idaho_Reader

InJuneau:

Thanks for the response, but Petumenos issued two reports. One on Monegan’s complaint and one on McLeod’s complaint. I cited the first. Still confusing to me.

3 11 2008
nocalgal

Imagine the emotion tomorrow evening.. as the final results pour in… the culmination of those decades of civil rights actions- the long history of racism beginning to melt away (there is a lot still to do on this- but it is starting!!)

America stands on the brink of a new epoch. We can again have the moral compass that was the envy of the world. We will again do the right thing and lead by the power of our example.

I am so excited to be here at this momentous point in our history! Proud to see it, participate in it and to (finally) celebrate it!!

GO OBAMA!! Thank you to all of you who donated, volunteered, worried and spoke out. We can see the change.. and YES WE CAN!

3 11 2008
phoebe

Seems like Sarah’s Hail Mary to save her a** in Alaska. Rovian politics are still in action….hopefully not for long. Very disappointing!

@Ripley

Pisshole in the snow?? LOL

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca (17:39:02) :

Tomorrow will be the best election since I saw Jack Kennedy get elected! I am really looking forward to this!
******************

I have my “Kennedy ’60” pin on. It’s a gold replica of his PT109…I think that is the correct number. Love it!

3 11 2008
DrChill

The timing of this, seems to be politically motivated, and may just call attention to the fact that this is the 2nd ethics investigation, and the first went against her. It just might backfire.

Hoping McCain Palin get trounced decisively with a thump.

3 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Sparky (16:16:25) :

damn….just went up posts and saw…sorry, but great news!
+++++++++++++++++++++++

That kind of news is welcome over and over again. 1.9 % is a mighty fine figure.

3 11 2008
akmuckraker

POST IS UPDATED.

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Speaking of emotions-and speaking of dorky maybe-
Is anyone else getting suddenly teary and choked up and just all emotional about tomorrow and what it all means??
I can’t inagine what I’m going to be like tomorrow if I can’t keep it together tonight

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

nocalgal (17:44:02) :

We can again have the moral compass that was the envy of the world.
—————————————–
The world forgives you for that overstatement.

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Bless you, Goalie Sanka Palin.

I was a junior in high school, in choir class, standing on the bleachers in the alto section, when we heard the news about JFK. Obama is the only one who’s come close to JFK since.

And I wake and sleep with my “I’m voting for That One” pin on. Just for luck. Also.

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

I am comforted by “It’s not over by a LONG-SHOT”

You betcha…game on!

3 11 2008
Nana

Google News is reporting Personnel Board has cleared Palin. Surprise. Surprise. Was any other outcome expected as this was the Palin plan in referring it to the Personnel Board in the first place.

3 11 2008
hottiemom24

did anyone really believe that a report filed by people that she hired and has the power to fire, would really go up against her?? Seriously….the whole thing stinks and I sure hope that no matter what, that Alaskans have seen what she is really like. Unfortunately Alaskans my have to endure another 2 years of her stupid azz, but hopefully a re-election will not happen. From what I have read and seen on this site and others….Alaskans have opened their eyes to the REAL Sarah Palin!!

I for one and many that I know, want her to stay in Alaska and away from an position of power down here in the lower 48. She grates on the nerves for sure. 😉

3 11 2008
Halcrow

From England

Fear and loathing divide two Americas on eve of voteAs the US goes to the polls liberal Americans are gripped by anxiety that they will suffer a repeat of their 2000 disappointment while right-wingers rail against ‘a socialist takeover.

Ed Pilkington and Paul Harris The Guardian, Tuesday November 4 2008
Ed Pilkington in Brooklyn, New York
Paul Harris in Orange, Texas

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/04/us-elections-brooklyn-texas-voters

3 11 2008
White Agate

Is it really true, @JR50 (17:43:31)? The CA GOP is filing a lawsuit against Obama for visiting a dying Toot? Again, here we are with the ‘Have you no decency?’ question for the umpteenth time in the past few months. Shameless bastards. How could you do that to anyone. She passed today, for heaven’s sake! It doesn’t get any lower than that. That just makes steam come out of my ears. Oh, the great karmic wheel is rolling their way…

3 11 2008
ira2

Thanks for the update and clarification, AKM. It’s downright sickening that they’re trying to get away with this, and I’m pleased, very pleased indeed that Palin will NOT get a free ride BY A LONG SHOT!!! She can’t fire Alaskans for Truth and the Legislature, right? :o)

3 11 2008
BecausethisisMN

If I ever get accused of anything in Alaska, I want this guy appointed special prosecutor on my case.

If this excerpt on page 14 of the PDF is any indication, what mattered disproportionately to the investigator was whether Palin or her staff admitted the allegedly unethical acts: “The testimony about this phone call [testified to by Commissioner Monegan, in which Gov. Palin called him to inquire as to why nothing had been done to discipline Wooten, and to complain that he had received a slap on the wrist] cannot be used as evidence of a violation of the Ethics Act against the Governor for the following reasons: 1. The Governor denies that the conversation took place . . . .” A similar excerpt is found on page 16, as a basis to reject the admissibility of her conversation with Monegon on the stairs.

For the call from Palin staff member Frank Bailey to another DPS officer, an instance in which the report can’t deny the substance of what was said (because it was recorded), it does not quote from the transcript of the call (which includes statements such as “you know, Todd and Sarah are scratching their heads, ‘Why on earth hasn’t this, why is this guy still representing the department?’ He’s a horrible recruiting tool, you know. From their perspective, everybody’s protecting him”) and instead simply states that Bailey “described certain aspects of Mr. Wooten’s personnel situation. . . .” p. 43. The report concludes that the placing of the call could have been used as evidence had it knowingly been done on behalf of Governor Palin,” but by knowingly” the report means the governor’s knowledge only. Instead of questioning whether the substance of the statements in the call gave rise to an inference of Palin’s knowledge (at least at the probable cause stage), the report instead relies exclusively on the testimony of Palin and Bailey that the governor didn’t know he was making the call. The report later concludes that Bailey wasn’t even acting with “the authority” of the governor, even though he was her aide at the time it occurred.

The report also commits the common error of viewing every piece of information in isolation, disregarding whether the extraordinary number of contacts made with Monegan on this issue, from persons very close to the governor and under her discretionary control, is itself significant in determining whether probable cause was present. Nor does he seem to realize that the contacts made by her husband and subordinates take on a special meaning (in determining what the governor knew and when she knew it) when they occurred after Monegon told the governor that Todd, rather than she, should deal with him on it. From that point forward, the notion that they were totally independent of her, and totally unknown to her, is impossible to believe.

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

Its BS! She appointed these people,not Branchflower! And aren’t they looking into mccain’s campaign for tampering with the Branchflower investigation?
This second one should be completely disregarded as “partisan”

3 11 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

This is what I find amazing. That there are so many like-thinking souls that have gathered in Alaska for the same purpose.
I don’t know about you but I was approaching giving up on any rational change of direction for our Country. But with our man, this IS the moment – the time – enough IS enough and we are ready.

Our collective voice is incredibly strong and so I salute you, my fellow Mudflatters. You are the heart and soul of what we seek. We be awesome.

LESS THAN ONE DAY

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

OK, I just read AKM update and Thank god “Alaskan’s for Truth” are not going to let her get away with this! Everyone needs to rise up against her! Now after tomorrow she won’t have mccains goon squad on her side and only her cronies, who most of America is aware of now!!!
Alaskan’s for Truth need to bring IRS in about housegate, etc.ALASKA…TAKE HER DOWN, JUST LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP!

3 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

re: gop filing a lawsuit

I remember when I did some research on Sarah’s clothes and read that the plane should not be used for personal purposes and thought OH OH
However, it seems to me that the use of a campaign plane for Sarah to come to Alaska for an hour or two to vote would fall in the same category. There are certainly ways for her to vote without flying in for the photo-op.

3 11 2008
Halcrow

Ennealogic (17:49:57) :
I was a junior in high school, in choir class, standing on the bleachers in the alto section, when we heard the news about JFK.

I was in a tiny, isolated town in Northern British Columbia when the news came out abiyr JFK. I can still recall the hushed silence in the town’s cafe.

I was very active in the draft-resistance and antiwar movement and living in Toronto, in a huge high-rise complex overlooking the Don Valley Parkway, when his brother, Robert was slain.

In the dark night, you could hear the phones ringing in the neighbouring apartments and complexes as the word spread, and I’ll never, ever forget watching the Toronto nighttime skyline light up at three or four in the morning as the news was carried by word of mouth and people were awakened and turned on their house lights in stunned silence.

3 11 2008
SC Strike Chipper Sista M Hussein ProAmerican Goodwill Shopper

Here’s a big old raspberry for the Personnel Board: Pthfffffffffffffffffffffffffft!!!!

3 11 2008
Bea

Anyone watching the SNL special on right now?

I’m watching Rachel online, but wonder what goodies SNL might put on tonight.

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

Step 1: Let’s make sure that tomorrow, Sarah gets her one way ticket back to Alaska. (nothing personal to those of you that live there….really!)

Step 2: Keep her feet to fire on all the issues that have come out, including the unprofessional conduct, the cronyism, the lack of attention to detail (ie the pipeline to nowhere), the housegate question, the email request, Native issues, the Pebble mine fiasco, the ever-increasing budgets…I am getting cramps in my fingers so finish the list!

Step 3: Never, ever forget this nonsense about 2012! There are people that actually believe in this! Stay on guard, everyone…

3 11 2008
fixthebroken

I think I will trust the 1st report, thank you very much.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

MSNBC isn’t on channelsurfing.net

3 11 2008
NSWFM

MadSkills said my new favorite quote: Karma is a Mofo. This all is going to come back and bite, hard.

3 11 2008
Sparky

JR50 (17:43:31) :

Wanted to share the following with you guys. Evidently the GOP is filing a compaint against Obama for visiting his dying grandmother. I found the following in one of the comment sections of the Huffington Post:

GOP Files FEC Complainr Friday Over Obama Visit to See Dying Grandmother:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/11/disturbed-desperate-republicans-filed.html

I have written my state and national representatives over this as well as the state and national Republican party over this depraved act by the Republicans. I suggest you all do the same.

Geez….in my state and out of Sacramento! Terrible people…how low can the GOP really go? Awful awful people…no decency. November 4 will be the best creaming for Repubs and GOP. Shameful.

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

OMG!! I just got a email from McCain/Palin! WTF? I emailed them to unsubscribe and told them I’ve NEVER BEEN A MCCAIN/PALIN SUPPORTER…GOBAMA!!!!!`

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Here is a good article about the Palin…

Thriller in Wasilla: Town abuzz over election

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15237.html

3 11 2008
Sparky

NSWFM (18:18:53)

Karma, indeed. (I humbly ask what Mofo means)

3 11 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

‘Ennealogic (17:49:57) :
I was a junior in high school, in choir class, standing on the bleachers in the alto section, when we heard the news about JFK.’

I was in the 5th grade. I remember going home and watching news on TV all afternoon. I also remember watching live (at least I think it was live) when Jack Ruby shot Oswald. Those images are seared in my mind…they were life-changing events for me and my family. I doubt that anyone who didn’t live through it could really ever understand what it meant to us.

Likewise, I think everyone who sees the sun rise tomorrow as Barack Obama wins the Presidency, will be forever changed. We are all so lucky to see this day for so many reasons. For me, strangely, it has little to do with the Obama being black, even though my life has happened during the civil rights movement and was in some ways deeply intertwined with it. Instead, I am most struck by the power of a man who looks forward, who stands FOR something, and who does not attack his opponent, only his opponent’s ideas. The withering onslaught of racist, vile, xenophobic attacks that have been launched against Obama have been met with class. I don’t know how he has maintained his cool. I have so often found my self sputtering, apoplectic, wanting to call the referee for an immediate judgment!

Obama stays on track, knowing deep within that we will be with him, that false accusations and distractions will ultimately come to naught…

Who else have we seen that could do that?

3 11 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

NSWFM (18:18:53)

Karma, indeed. (I humbly ask what Mofo means)
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MoFo is a very polite Oprah like way of saying Mother F**ker.

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

@Halcrow… it would be a few years later before I got involved in the antiwar movement. I joined our Air Force, unknowing and unaware of the horrors we were perpetrating on Vietnam, and believing that our country could do no harm.

I saw enough as a medic in my time at Travis, and on being discharged, I publicly threw away my medals and started to march.

I’m too old to march now, but not too old to donate and phone and make it to a rally and blog and make my voice heard in as many other ways as I can.

I’m not about to let this last best chance to go down the tubes. That’s a promise.

3 11 2008
mayflower

OK, I promise I won’t stay on long tonight & get out of whack guys — I promise! It’s just that I soooo believe Cajun Boy is truthful in saying he believes his source. Not only that, but his source IS out there & there is more to this story. Remember: his tidbit re the ‘story’ being withheld was that PART of the story contained stuff re the ‘other’ rumors (which I won’t go into as AKM has not addressed them since — oh, Aug. 29 & 30 if I recall correctly….). But yet, this whole thing SMELLS to high heaven of CB’s blog: “will rise to stench of deception” & a whole host of other questions.

I will state that he has told me that he stands by his source and that THE WHOLE STORY is FAR MORE REACHING than just the ‘baby conspiracy theories’ that ADN claims ‘fanatics’ are floating out there.

Oh my gosh, there have been so many times these past two months where this mess has thrown me off the rails — I cannot — literally cannot imagine the nightmare of this Evil White Witch from Hell grasping even more power — it gives me nightmares… (and I’m not one prone to nightmares, but God Help me, I’ve come down here to my computer in the middle of the night a’plenty to see what might be up with her…. just to check… just to keep on top… just to see if there’s anything…. ANYTHING an average citizen can do…to KICK HER OUT!!!)

In other words: Is it possible that ADN & the powers that be in the Legislature are holding on to all they know so that the REAL story WILL get out just post-election?

PLEASE, GOD! Give us Hope!

And since Toot is up there now (I had a sneaking suspicion she would be, as I’ve dealt with end-of-life stuff…– just had a feeling Barack was saying his goodbyes 10 days ago & she was giving her blessings, etc. (it works like that & those of you who’ve been there can truly relate, I’m sure)…. she is the guiding angel for tomorrow — just like so many of you have voiced.

Peace & Blessings!

GET OUT THE VOTE! Do whatever you can — If you know someone in your local Sr. Service Center, find out if any registered seniors have not had the chance to either: a. mail or drop off their absentee ballots; b. drive them to the polls, etc. (That’s what I’ll be doing tomorrow afternoon)

3 11 2008
Scotsgirl

Caligirl – me too -how did they get my e mail? I am in Tx and not registered to vote – Green card holder but not a citizen….curiouser and curiouser…

3 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

I picked out some entertainment for tomorrow night

McCain/Palin can call on Hank Williams Jr to sing “There’s A Tear In My Beer”
and
Obama/Biden get THE BOSS and “Land of Hope And Dreams”

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

aussie, this is the new link:
http://www.blinkotv.com/

to watch msnbc

3 11 2008
mayflower

Oh dang, AKM, there’s that brown quilt again (LOL🙂 — I swear to God I’m just kidding

Honestly, THANK YOU for all you have done!

I like to think of it as a “mudflake”! 🙂 AKM

3 11 2008
Anonymous

As long as the MSM keep saying that this report is from a Board she appointed only those that are already supporting her are going to listen, everyone else is just laughing that the repubs are even bringing it out today, to late, and to dumb to know any better. She will feel good about it until she see all your signs in the morning, and get a small hint of what’s in store when she comes home for good, if she really does come back. SNL could be telling it like it is…she doesn’t really want to go back to AK, especially when she loses tomorrow.

We have to remember, she only has the power we give her. Even if she still wants to think she is the best loved gov in the country she will know that she can’t keep that falsehood going after a big Obama win tomorrow. And as close as the polls are tonight in AK, she has to realize sometime that she is slipping fast and may not find a place of power waiting for her. Could be that her baby may not now special care that can only be gotten in some far away place….very far away. Hey what were those three countries that supported her and Mc on the international map?

3 11 2008
More Light than Heat

@ Rob in Santa Cruz
The memories you’ve brought back. I was a bit older than you — in my first semester at college and away from home. I think in many ways that day was why I ultimately majored in history.

I was on my way to my Western Civ class when I heard. When the prof entered the lecture hall, he was literally gray. He told us that there was nothing he could say that could possibly be more important, to go back to our living groups and watch history being made. We were at lunch when the announcement came that JFK was dead, but the portable radios people had carried into the dining room meant we all knew. As a body, everyone spontaneously stood in silence. We were all forever changed.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Reality check, Mudpuppies.

I’ve mixed up the home made bread dough…started the tomato rice soup (also home made from the garden)…bread will go into the oven in the morning.

I own 12 umbrellas…it’s begun to drizzle this night before the 60% of NC voters will cast their votes…I hope they’ll pass them back (like passing them on!).

I affixed “Thank you for voting” stickers to them.

The smell of yeast is in the air…and in the morning, the smell of bread will transfix me.

We’ll take this to our polling place…we already voted.

This…for Obama, our new President of the United States.

3 11 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

OMG… I actually stayed away from the blogs today…my goodness. However, there is hope for AK, my guess is that nobody is going to let this go… Just please make sure you voted!

3 11 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Whoa I have a picture. and that is from so long ago on another blog far far away.

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

@Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

We are then only a few years apart, and yes, those days — for those of us who lived through them — are permanently seared on us.

I was too young to really listen and hear JFK before he was killed. But now that I have had the age and distance to do so, I see in Barack Obama a leader who may not only rival but exceed JFK. And I don’t say that lightly.

I pray (even though I am non-denominational) for his safety and strength and ability to resist the common temptations… and that he continues to display wisdom and courage and fortitude and compassion.

It is time we had, once again, a true leader. One who knows that he leads only with the support of, only because of, and only on behalf of, the people who still understand and hold fast to our founding principles. It is past time.

3 11 2008
Ben in SF

On my street in San Francisco, the garbage goes out Tuesday morning. If you see a silhouette of Pres. Bush sticking out of a (hmm…garbage, recycle, or compost?) bin, wave as you go by. (Haven’t quite decided whether it’s fair to our hardworking, state of the art, environmentally friendly wastewater treatment plant to vote for the measure renaming it for GWB).

3 11 2008
Bea

Cassie, what a great idea about the umbrellas!

3 11 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

welcome back,
sista!! good to see you again.

3 11 2008
mayflower

@caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (18:21:23) :
Regarding your McCain/Palin email, how very interesting… Because I used to receive them (am in the Dem database as a Repub from 2000 at my old address and as a volunteer at my new addy), along with the Obama emails I signed up for back in JUNE! Well, get this: after the Palin announcement, the first email I rec’d from them, I hit the ‘unsubscribe’ button & in the place where you could write comments I went to town… oh yeah! I went to town in that space slamming his pick of such a LAME-ASS, IDIOTIC CHOICE for VP & basically said, “How can you claim you are ‘Putting my country first? TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST NOW!”

NEVER HAVE I HEARD A PEEP from that campaign since…. until a robo call from Mitt Romney last night and today…. (lame…. lame…lame)

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

P.S.

I attended the funeral of KFK.

I have not been so enthused about an election for long, long time. Therefore, I bake bread.

3 11 2008
mayflower

Whoops, CORRECTION: …. “am in the Dem database as a Repub from 2000 at my old address and as a Democratic volunteer at my new addy)

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

KFK=JFK

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Cassie, I think baking bread is one of the most wholesome, righteous things to do in the world.

As a cook … well I’m passable. As a baker, I shine. Treat the yeast as the living organism it is, and you shall be rewarded.

3 11 2008
Bev

So much ethics. Sorry to be so cynical – okay maybe not THAT sorry – but it seems to me that ethics is going to be the new charge against “those elitist intellectuals” – that anyone who believes in and practices ethical behavior in the public or private arena will be seen as “elitist”, “Anti-American”, and maybe even “That One.” This used to be a mighty nation – a nation that symbolized more than a land of opportunity – it was nation that valued people, ideas, and ETHICS. What the hell happened to us?

3 11 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Aussie – quoting the ADN article: the Branchflower report misconstrued the available evidence and did not consider or obtain all of the material evidence that is required to properly reach findings.

So, in other words, because tavis twittlenose said it was okay for material witnesses to refuse to abide by the subpoena, Branchflower improperly issued findings? Well then. Perhaps it is time Branchflower completed his job to the hilt by going to the court to enforce the subpoena or, in the alternative, make a referal or written complaint to the appropriate agency(ies) against those who interfered with his investigation.

As for Alaskans, it is time they made their own written complaints to the IRS, the FBI’s Public Corruption unit, and to other relevant agencies. Let’s see how Sarah Palin deals with those agencies while she sits in the stew of her own sins.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Ennealogic (18:44:20)
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My grandma’s recipe—and I’m 60 ! LOL

Always, always use “potato water” it causes the yeast to SOAR!

3 11 2008
Halcrow

Bev (18:45:16) :
This used to be a mighty nation – a nation that symbolized more than a land of opportunity – it was nation that valued people, ideas, and ETHICS. What the hell happened to us?

IMO, not much happened to most of “us” other than “we” were rendered mute by a press and entertainment industry which was determined to portray “reality” as being whatever fantasy world they were selling at that moment.

Damn Rupert Murdoch and his news-entertainment alternate universe (and he’s come out against Obama).

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (18:47:36)

I’ve got ya beat by one year… and my grandma said to use a dollop of molasses in the water just before you put in the yeast! She said it was the best food. 🙂

3 11 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

As to Palin releasing the medical report, ya alls haven’t caught on to the reverse psychology she practices. When she says “yes,” it really means “no.” When she says she’s a reformer, it really means she is as corrupt as they come. When she says obama is a terrorist, it really means that he loves his country more than she loves hers. When she says obama is doing something nefarious, it really means that she’s hoping, really really hoping, that you are not paying attention to what she’s been up to.

I suspect that if someone offered her to Charlie Manson as a cellmate, he’d probably slit his wrists.

Okay, so I know that last comment is full of hubris, but I just have this need at this moment to be really politically snarky.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (18:29:42) :
aussie, this is the new link:
http://www.blinkotv.com/
to watch msnbc
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Thanks for the link – sadly, my hamster can’t run fast enough for it😦😀

3 11 2008
Frank Zeidler

Timothy Petumenos works for a law firm named Birch Horton Bittner & Cherot.

Bittner, as in Teds’ brother in law Bittner.

BHBC as in the same law firm that represented the City of Wasilla in the real estate fiasco that became the Wasilla Sports Complex ?

This finding should surprise no one.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

sauerkraut, did you read the article I posted for you yesterday about President Sununu?😀

3 11 2008
knikgoose Hussein justaskin

I’m totally ticked off. It’s BS and I hope Petumenos is ready for the legal backlash. I don’t care how you slice it, Colberg CANNOT advise to disregard a subpoena, Todd had no business having access to records, and Palin has not provided med records.
Arg! And I’m about to go care for my grandbabes, where there is no internet!
I shall lose my mind.
Obama!

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

I just wanted to shout out to Grandmothers everywhere. Given also too that family values is the strength and crust that furbishes our pies, and also when breads are baking you have to recall values to instill in our children, also not forgetting broad fields of grain and purple mountain majesties even!

Ok I’m getting a bit bonkers here, but it is election eve. Mea culpa. 🙂

3 11 2008
Trowel Ogre Palin

I was shocked for a moment, but we MUST remember how things have changed over the last few days:
1) Palin, herself, has been going rogue
2) All the male pundits in love with her are promoting her for pres for 2012
3)She sees herself as the new leader of the Rep party
4) She is going to go back to AK(hopefully) to finish her term as governor

They are only doing what is politically in their favor, as she has a way of getting rid of anyone she doesn’t like. They know she will be gone in 2 years, anyway.

The kicker is that the Republican party has alienated those not on the far right. There is no way she will become the leader of the Rep party. I can’t wait for the fireworks to begin!! I’m going to bring my lunch.

She has been one of the most hateful, divisive politicians we have seen at the national level. There is no place for that in this country.

Looking into my crystal ball, I see her raking in tons of money from Fox for her new tv show. I think she wants the adoration. To be well paid, as well. I say she takes the tv job.

3 11 2008
strangelet Hussein

Cassie Jeep:

I know you’ve been back on for a few days, but good to hear from you anyhow.

Alaskans:

Remember, the dueling ethics reports are relatively unimportant. “Ethics” laws are a nice idea, but none of them have any teeth. Keep after her for possible tax law violations (per diem gate, airfaregate) and possible gift-declaration violations (house-gate, and one of my personal faves: the $1200 gold nugget from the city of Nome).

Please kill her political career. All us Outsiders will really appreciate it.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Halcrow (18:51:36) :
Damn Rupert Murdoch and his news-entertainment alternate universe
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Damn Rupert Murdoch and his news-entertainment alternate universe
Damn Rupert Murdoch and his news-entertainment alternate universe

goes double for me😉

3 11 2008
Lee

Hello, everyone.

Well I guess it is back to the old coin toss. One side guilty one side not guilty.

That is the choice you have. Which investigation do you believe?

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin: You are right. The potato water is great. It adds that grandmother made it taste to bread. Yum!

3 11 2008
NSWFM

I have to admit, I really don’t like the term MoFo, but in this Madskills Son quote from about a week ago, it is necessary to use the full quote. The rest of the quote said the “GOP was going down like a cheap hooker.”

I’m hoping he’s right. The stuff they’ve pulled should land them in a pile of moose poop.

3 11 2008
WV Democrat

@ Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird (16:09:31) :

I
We’ve had two uninspiring Democratic choices in Gore and Kerry, and they were truly the ‘lesser of two evil’ choices.
==================================================

I was inspired by Al Gore. He won the popular vote and had the election stolen by Jeb Bush and Kathleen Harris in Florida. Don’t go there.

But I do agree that BO is inspiring and I am excited for us this year with such an awesome candidate. But don’t diss Al.🙂

3 11 2008
Pursang

This is one of the results of Bush’s America, I know longer believe anything that comes out from the Republicans/Right Wing/Conservative side of the coin.

There is another side to this report and its timing that shouldn’t go unnoticed. To the people in Alaska who spoke ill of the Ice Princess be careful. She now thinks she can do anything to anyone through surrogates and be 100% untouchable. How many heads will roll either directly or through channels once she returns to the state on Wednesday? The only thing that may slow her down initially is that people will be watching. But with anyone that is vindictive and holds grudges, they can be a patient lot so don’t get too complacent.

Well Alaka, the ball is in your court now. You now know the real Sarah Palin, is she who you thought she was? Is she the person she portrayed herself to be while campaigning for Governor? The views she’s expressed while sleazing around the campaign trail, are they the views you want associated with your state? I’m not taking you to task for electing her as we’ve all been taken in by politicians from time to time. I just hope you’re able to do what we weren’t able to do with the Bush Crime Family. That was to remove them from power, to take away their ability to loot the treasury while insuring their cronies get rich as well.

Good night and good luck tomorrow!

3 11 2008
Halcrow

@ Ennealogic (18:56:41)

Oh, well spoken!!

And let’s not forget the golden goodness of the grain which ferments into beer, nor overlook the product of the purple grapes which are transformed into a heady wine.

I’m off to have a beer, lol.

3 11 2008
Sparky

Woah…just watched Joe Biden’s thumper speech from today in Lee’s Summit.

He said essentially: Repubs have been calling Barack Obama everything in the book, but tomorrow they will be calling him 44th President of the United States of America!

Rip ’em, Joe!

Ahhhh…I’m centered again!🙂

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Ennealogic (18:56:41) :

I just wanted to shout out to Grandmothers everywhere. Given also too that family values is the strength and crust that furbishes our pies, and also when breads are baking you have to recall values to instill in our children, also not forgetting broad fields of grain and purple mountain majesties even!
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A toast to shoring up our grandmothers! [clink]

3 11 2008
palin’s personnel board finds no wrongdoing in troopergate « angryXer

[…] November 3, 2008 by angryxer Jesus. What an absurd finding. Thank god for AK Muckraker’s perspective on this. For the latest scoop on the local politicking, see the rest of the Mudflats roundup here: […]

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Halcrow (18:51:36) :
______________________________________________________________________________
Ah yes, the press. Daughter #1 teaches journalism/history at a major NE university.
Her thesis: 24/7 news programs have ruined the “press”.

No guts, no balls…just fill the time slot!

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL aka Palin Queen ReDistributor

@sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin (18:52:19) :

As to Palin releasing the medical report, ya alls haven’t caught on to the reverse psychology she practices. When she says “yes,” it really means “no.” When she says she’s a reformer, it really means she is as corrupt as they come. When she says obama is a terrorist, it really means that he loves his country more than she loves hers. When she says obama is doing something nefarious, it really means that she’s hoping, really really hoping, that you are not paying attention to what she’s been up to.
_________________________________
If the unbiased Troopergate report says she violated a state ethics law by abusing her power, she says she’s happy to be cleared of even any “hint” of unethical or illegal behavior.

If she is the Queen Redistributor Socialist who taxes oil companies and spreads the wealth to Alaskans, she says Obama is a socialist.

This could go on forever. She seems to live by the motto: People are stupid. Lie often.

3 11 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McPOW (hopefully FINAL national appearance) will both be on at half time of the Steelers vs Redskins Game at half time. For both I believe it will be by video tape. I did wave my Terrible Towel tonight but not for the Steelers. I waved it for it’s cosmic power to go to Barack Obama. A Steeler win would be nice. But if there is a choice, may the Sacred Power go to Barack Obama.

Under a minute left to half time. Maybe it will be a good omen if the Steelers score now. 1st and goal with 35 seconds left in the half. And they got the ball from a blocked kick. Hummm.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Ennealogic (18:52:02) :

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (18:47:36)

I’ve got ya beat by one year… and my grandma said to use a dollop of molasses in the water just before you put in the yeast! She said it was the best food.🙂
_____________________________________________________________________________
Is there any other sugar for bread? 😉

3 11 2008
rf11 in FL

Sparky

Woah…just watched Joe Biden’s thumper speech from today in Lee’s Summit.

He said essentially: Repubs have been calling Barack Obama everything in the book, but tomorrow they will be calling him 44th President of the United States of America!
_____________________
Love it!

3 11 2008
WV Democrat

Ennealogic (17:49:57) :
I was a junior in high school, in choir class, standing on the bleachers in the alto section, when we heard the news about JFK.

I was in a tiny, isolated town in Northern British Columbia when the news came out abiyr JFK. I can still recall the hushed silence in the town’s cafe.
==================================================

Yes, although I was very young, we lived in Ft Worth and had gone to Dallas to see JFK. My mother was an active member of the Young Democrats and had done her best to see that JFK was elected. I remember her being most girlish discussing Jackie with her friends. Anyway, we went to see the President in Dallas and a nice man picked me up onto his shoulders so I could see over the crowd to see the President’s car go past. We had just gotten started home and listening to the radio. I did not hear what was said, but I remember my mother screaming and pulling the car over. She screamed and screamed and cried so horribly. I remember it being the first time I ever saw her cry. It was a sad, somber, horrible time and I remember that moment like yesterday.

3 11 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (19:04:48) My Nebraska?
If so, we must do lunch🙂

3 11 2008
knikgoose Hussein justaskin

I so dislike these GOP Arsthings!
Can we not set up a separate fund to collect $100K specifically (well, he’s going to need more, now,..he has to go back there this week, poor thing!)
anyway, can we set up a fund for Obama FAMILY travel expenses to satisfy those GOP MOFO’s who begrudge,..oh, I’m too mad to type!
What they don’t see, is, that, had Obama NOT been campaigning, he would have spent the past 3 weeks at his Grandma’s bedside, not 2 days! Both of them were short-changed in having those final moments reduced to a stress-filled two days with phones ringing, meetings being scheduled ,..it’s not like he was able to STOP the campaign, or even suspend it!
I’m gonna have to stay in the house, now, I’m not safe around repugs,….
What ignorami!

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

The Eyes of Texas Alaska are upon you,
All the livelong day.
The Eyes of Texas Alaska are upon you,
You can-not get a-way.

dum dee dee ….😀

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Huh? Real Sarah Palin on SNL Presidential Bash. Sorry Sarah, not very funny — at all.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Lee (18:59:36) :
__________________________________________________Coin tosses slay me….let’s force SWWNBN go to 2 out of 3!

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Is anyone watching the SNL bash- Palin (not Tina Fey) was just on and it was just plain creepy. And, not at all funny.

3 11 2008
MizKay [stuck in] Red Carolina

Enjoying Nate Silver (538) on KO.

3 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Reuters video about issues that have thus far risen with voting. An independent voter activist comments on the good job that the Obama campaign has done with encouraging early voting.

Seems there are problems with new voters being on rolls. Today I had the pleasure of giving a teen whose old pickup had run out of gas a ride back with his gallon in a jug. First thing he said after thanks was, “I’m a first time voter.” He was just beaming. I REALLY DESPISE that anybody like him will get rejected at the voting booth.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10517587&ch=4226716&src=news

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Hey Carol — like minds!!!

3 11 2008
Bea

Aussie,

You can watch Countdown and Rachel Maddow Show clips here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

I would think there’s a good chance they will stream live from their website tomorrow.

3 11 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

MizKay – watched KO earlier — catch Nate grinning. Pretty funny. He is king of dork – but in this day and age, Dorks rule (and laugh all the way to their banks!)

3 11 2008
MizKay [stuck in] Red Carolina

NEW THREAD

3 11 2008
White Agate

You know, another take on these investigations…just how much taxpayer money has been spent on this circus sideshow to get the fix in? I mean, really, this is ‘reform’? I bet if you add up all of the legal fees for two investigations, one incomplete and ongoing, and this one’s recommendation to get into e-mail records, the lawsuits that will follow, it’s ridiculous! And expensive. How to Alaska’s citizens feel about the dollars that could have been spent on say, fuel for the Native Amercian community, or education, or just about ANYTHING else. I’m sure you either have this data, or can get it AKM.

We are all up baking…I am making cookies with my son (due to his late nap) for the polls and the DFL office for tomorrow.

Still more work to do so I will check back later.

3 11 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

WV Democrat (19:09:03) :

Ennealogic (17:49:57) :
I was a junior in high school, in choir class, standing on the bleachers in the alto section, when we heard the news about JFK.
__________________________________________________________________________________

With you. In SW(Redneck) PA.

Went to the funeral for JFK…back for the second murder…and I was only 15….what do we have to endure?

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Bea, thanks for thinking of me. I’m really hoping that they stream live tomorrow.

3 11 2008
knikgoose Hussein justaskin

Frank Zeidler (18:53:06) :

Timothy Petumenos works for a law firm named Birch Horton Bittner & Cherot.

Bittner, as in Teds’ brother in law Bittner.

BHBC as in the same law firm that represented the City of Wasilla in the real estate fiasco that became the Wasilla Sports Complex ?

This finding should surprise no one.
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WOW,…and double wow.
And nobody mentioned possible conflict-of-interest?
Awesome tidbit,….really, and makes sense of it all

3 11 2008
Krubozumo Nyankoye

Mudflatters,

This is just a hiccup. It reeks of collusion and self interest. So it is just possible that like much if not hopefully all of the negative campaign smears
being fronted now, it will have the reverse effect, people of Alaska, perhaps
as many as 4% of the likely voters will react with WHAT? And tomorrow when
they goe to the polls, turn Alaska blue so that Ms Palin is roundly and truly
humiliated. The good parts will come later. After January 20th the ongoing
investigations of corruption in Alaska politics will take on a whole new meaning.

Now to the real point, which is the same as I made before. This is just the
beginning. Even as we write on this blog the Bush administration is frantically trying to finalize a blizzard of Executive Orders that will savage legislative intent in areas like the environment, civil rights, voting rights and others. What lies before us is eight or more years of struggle. Struggle to take back the constitution, take back the rule of law, and rise above the petty self-interest of these extremists who contend that the only right way is their way, because it benefits them.

If we cannot do this, if we cannot wrest control of the leader of the free world from the few who would enslave the world, then the crises we face now will pale in comparison to those we will face in the future.

Vote, and brace yourselves, do not even for a moment think that the outcome is in doubt. If there is a repeat of 2000, then you and I and everyone will be faced with a grave choice. Yet the only choice is to resist.
Do not let them steal this election, and when the election is decided, do not go to sleep watching inane programs on your televisions, WORK to unravel the skein of lies and half truths, the secrecy and deviousness, the arrogance of power. It truly is in our hands, what the outcome will be. The only real question is are we willing to take the risks and makes the sacrificies necessary to confront the audacity of those in power?

We will see.

Best wishes to all…

3 11 2008
G. Stone

Eh . .. what this business about the other guy used the “wrong law?”

For better or worse, sounds like the key lies there – sounds a lot like, she’s guilty, but only of you use this law, not thatone? Huh?

I wonder how many Alaskans will see through this crap and just be angrier because of it. The timing is incredible – especiallys ince it wa not announced in advance – just allof a sudden,we have a winner. grrrrrrrrrrr

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

go to palin as president and turn off the light😉
http://www.palinaspresident.us/

3 11 2008
strangelet Hussein

WV Democrat (19:09:03) :
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Oh my lord. I was waiting to play a HS basketball game, and we had to wait to figure out if it was happening or not, but your memory is too much.

3 11 2008
Shove Maggot "That One" Hussein aka the problem child

Okay, I step away from the computer to deal with educating the literacy-challenged and all hell breaks loose! Toots gone, Alaska goes light pink, SWWNBN gets a welcome home party AND the completely awful Personnel Board report!!???!!
And now I have to go to bed so that I can get up tomorrow, go to work and then sit thru the day, so that I can sit thru the night.
Thank god I will have mudpuppies keeping me sane.

Love the MUDPUPS

3 11 2008
Erica

What do you say, best two out of three? Five out of seven? Just one more investigation. *sigh* I knew this second investigation would come out this way when in her interviews she said, “oh I’m so glad I was cleared of any wrong doing” *grumble*

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin

There’s a new thread up I hear, but you can add more sugar (honey, brown, white) as you want when you incorporate the 2nd half of flour to the dough.

Just remember, the more sugar, the faster the toast burns. 🙂

3 11 2008
WV Democrat

If I’ve learned anything these past few months, it is to never underestimate an Alaskan. Kinda like underestimating a West Virginian. (Y’all know we did get our $4M from DickRod AND he’s having a losing season at UM!) Anyhow, I expect many Alaskans will see through these findings as the dog do-do that they are. I see many more attorneys in Sarah’s future.

3 11 2008
Pistol Tanker Palin aka New Mexican Citizen

Ughh. Blatant disregard for truth and honesty.

3 11 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Palin and her No-Yes-Nada medical records.

Obviously, Palin had something to hide. Here’s a partial list of things worth hiding.

1. Gravida 4, Para 4 (4 pregnancies, 4 live births)

2. Gravida 5, Para 4, Abortus 1 (5 pregnancies, 4 live births, 1 abortion)

3. Tubal ligation

4. History of treatment for mental/emotional illness

5. Prescription medicines with addictive properties

Looking forward to Mudpuppy additions.

3 11 2008
portland oregon native

SO bogus. KO did a short piece on the Troopergate decision tonight, but spent more time on the punksters from Montreal.
Keeping fingers crossed tonight and tomorrow. Husband wants to know, ” Do I get my wife back tomorrow after the results?”.

3 11 2008
Glenn2008

Hmmm… It appears that the Personnel Board is full of Mavericks. “Also.”

Each one of them have brilliant poetential for their political career.
Did you see any construction around their houses lately?

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (19:20:49) :

go to palin as president and turn off the light😉
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
——————————————–

It’s been updated since the last time I saw that. Hilarious.

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Bec-
greetings!

3 11 2008
BLUE OREGON

Obviously, this is a snow job in so many, many ways and I’m not buying it –and I am confident that many Alaskans feel the same way. I’m tired of corruption being accepted as the norm. I want my country back!

With having so many of Palin’s cronies in office and on boards, is there anyone in Alaska with power who can get to the real truth about this and all the other Palin Gates? And what can we do from ‘the lower 48’ to help? (I moved from Alaska recently and still often use the term.)

3 11 2008
annie

Palin records release….says she had 5 pregnacys

3 11 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Medical recoprds for LA Sarah are out – funny they use this as a last minute attention grabber.

3 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

From AC 360, cnn, Palin just released her medical records. 4 full term pregnancies, 4 live births, 1 pre-term pregnancy (35 weeks) 1 live birth

3 11 2008
Carol(Chicago,IL)

Just saw on HuffPo that Barack’s grandma cast an absentee ballot that will be counted tomorrow.

3 11 2008
Cynthia, TX

SHE IS JUST AS CORRUPT AS THE BOYS!!!! she gets away with it because she abuses her power and would fire them!! scary cat employees who allow abuses of the government of ALaska.

3 11 2008
annie

Just so many lies…..sry, still have my doubts.

3 11 2008
Ben in SF

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (19:20:49) :

After you turn off the light, then click on the red phone.

3 11 2008
DrChill

Legal interpretation:
Petumenos’s claims that Branchflower cited the part of the ethics law that explains the legislative intent, and is not the legislation itself. He further claims that the real legislation applies only to official acts.

If Sarah Palin knew about undue influence on the personnel action against Wooten, by her husband, it was not her responsibility to intervene.
He claims that it was within his right to do so, and cites an incident in which Todd Palin was directed to make a complaint to the ombudsman.
He claims that Ms Palin didn’t know about this, and faults Branchflower for citing it as knowledge of wrongdoing that she should have stopped.

He also claims that it would be ‘over burdensome’ to expect elected officials to stop bad acts of others.

I suppose it is within the rights of citizens to chant FIRE HIM FIRE HIM, while holding torches and dancing around a bonfire, but when analogous activity is acted out in the halls of the capitol, one must ask if its ethical to whiteness it and just shrug and walk away.

As a lay person/citizen I find it odd that the INTENT of the law is dismissed as not part of the law, and explained away as a burden to heavy for state officials to bear.

It also seems to be a loophole to have a spouse act as a surrogate for the elected official, but when laws are applied he gets to hide behind the skirt of the official, enjoying non-official status.

Where did I read it ? Was it Article 1 # 1 in NY State law: The spirit of the law shall prevail.

That would be nice.

3 11 2008
Blue in MT

Can someone link the Palin Medical Records article.

3 11 2008
braveny

I just received the most hateful piece of email I have seen in my life from my family comparing Barack to …. I can’t even say it.. but it was sent in the name of God.

So much hate and fear, I have resolved not to look at any more email until the election is over. I want to think about Love, and Peace, and Hope.

Thanks to you all for keeping me sane!

3 11 2008
DrChill

braveny (20:10:39) :

I just received the most hateful piece of email I have seen in my life
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Here’s an antidote …
I LOVE this:

3 11 2008
NoCalGal

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (17:49:32) :

nocalgal (17:44:02) :

We can again have the moral compass that was the envy of the world.
—————————————–
The world forgives you for that overstatement.

LOL Aussie.. mea culpa… I was wrapped up in the moment and the hyperbole got the better of me.. how about “that was applauded by the world” or “one of the world’s moral compasses”

ah me. Touche.. and I apologize🙂

3 11 2008
Apphouse50

Say, what’s that again about Petumenos being such a standup guy?

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

NoCalGal (20:14:29) :

S’ok. I should have put a winkie there.😉

3 11 2008
CO Almost Native

AKM-
Will the Alaskan Legislature do the right thing, and resolve this? Or does CB get a free pass because her hand-picked buddies say so- The part I find unbelievable is:
CroutonBarbie, First Dud, and pals say the conversations didn’t happen- so they didn’t happen? @#!&*!!

(If I really say what I’m thinking, I’ll get my mouth washed out with soap, and tossed on the mudflats…)

3 11 2008
braveny

@DrChill

Thank you I needed that!!

3 11 2008
WV Democrat

@ Dr. Chill

As a lay person/citizen I find it odd that the INTENT of the law is dismissed as not part of the law, and explained away as a burden to heavy for state officials to bear.
===================================================

Actually intent is most of why the law exists. Intention is a kind of mens rea that when accompanied by an actus reus (a guilty act), constitutes a crime. A legal definition of intention is that when someone acts to cause a result it is his/her purpose to cause the result or if not his purpose, he/she knows the result could occur.

Now in framing the law, the legislature had an intent to cause acts of this nature to be unethical.

Any 2nd year law student would have found Ms. Sarah to be guilty simply on the basis of intent as everyone knew what Sarah’s intent was.

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

Ben in SF (19:54:00) :

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (19:20:49) :

After you turn off the light, then click on the red phone.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OMG! LOL! 8) How did you figure that one out? Some one here keeps talking about penquins too, but I haven’t seen them, but sometimes I see the dinosaur, hehe!

Any links to medical record? Of couse they are “Doctored…”!!!

3 11 2008
NoCalGal

No Aussie..lol.. I got your wink!! I saw it… but I wanted you to know I had one of those DOH! moments.. no worries at all!!

Just keeping the positive vibe going out across the land and the ether…

GO OBAMA!

3 11 2008
Dianna

AKM

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to express our grief over the loss of Barack Obama’s grandmother and sending our messages on. How thoughtful.

3 11 2008
NoCalGal

penguins.. open the door about 4 times.. there is always something different there.. and you can shoot them….lol

3 11 2008
Actongue

She Claims that Monegan was fired for not following her orders and being a rogue as she stated him to be. He did not take the Agency in the direction she felt was best for Alaska.
YET shortly before her firing of Moinegan she has a Press Conference where she says that she personally wants to thank Monegan for taking Alaksa in the proper direction.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5779112

Interesting how she can Claim he Was doing a great job of keeping Alaskans safe then goes and fires him for not doing his job.
Obviously the (non biased)*cough* State Personnel Board-sanctioned *cough* failed to do its research very good.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

NOW we can all sing this! This day has been such a long time coming.

ONE MORE DAY

3 11 2008
braveny

Nate Silver posted a lovely quote to all brave organizers at 538!

still wiping tears… what a ride this has been… one more day

3 11 2008
CO Almost Native

If you are looking for a link to the report on Plain’s medical history:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/palin-releases-letter-from-family-physician/?eref=politicalflipper

It states that her doctor has released a letter, but no details.

3 11 2008
antiAnti
3 11 2008
DeMo

El from Saskatchewan (19:45:37) said:

From AC 360, cnn, Palin just released her medical records. 4 full term pregnancies, 4 live births, 1 pre-term pregnancy (35 weeks) 1 live birth

_______________________________________________________________

That’s interesting. Track came along 8 months after their nuptials. So I guess he wasn’t pre-term. Darn, that abstinence thing doesn’t seem to work for the Palin women.

3 11 2008
CO Almost Native

I don’t know where my link to the brief article on Palin’s medical records went; I’ll try again-

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/palin-releases-letter-from-family-physician/?eref=politicalflipper

3 11 2008
3 11 2008
Pacificnwgal

This is really outrageous and an example of total corruption. The kind we are trying to get rid of in our government. The Personnel Board is a conflict of interest since they are people hired by Palin. There is no independent objectivity there. Colberg violated the law that he is obligated to uphold and should be fired. He can’t tell people to ignore subpeonas. This gives him no credibility as the attorney general. I certainly hope that this is not over. Monegan needs to sue. And the first decision by the legislature needs to be pursued to the fullest extent of the law otherwise they are not credible either. This is so absurd that it gives the people in power absolute rule and control over subordinates. Is this America or some totalitarian state?

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Dr Disappearo surfaces?? ROFLMAO!

I believe fairies live at the bottom of my ironing basket, too.😀

3 11 2008
Bea

I must get to bed so I can be up bright and early to drive my fellow citizens of ‘real’ Virginia to the polls tomorrow.

I wish I could give you each a big hug in person. This great community is what life is all about! Can’t wait to talk to you all again tomorrow evening!!!

Sweet dreams of Barack’s lovely Toot looking down on us and smiling.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

DeMo (20:30:28) :
Darn, that abstinence thing doesn’t seem to work for the Palin women.
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And young Sarah was not so young when her contraception failed.😉

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Bea, you’re a champion!

3 11 2008
MizKay [stuck in] Red Carolina

AKM,
Thank you for the condolences thread. I posted twice on there – It’s ok if you delete my first one since I posted quickly before I had my thoughts ‘thought out.’

3 11 2008
Pacificnwgal

Gravida 5, Para 4, Abortus 1 (5 pregnancies, 4 live births, 1 abortion?????

Is this what was reported?

This could mean she had a miscarriage, but what about Trig? He was a viable pregnancy obviously.

3 11 2008
CO Almost Native

I can’t get mudflats to take the link, so go to CNN.com, then to Political Ticker;
all that was released was a one page letter from CB’s physician, dated today, that states she is in excellent health.

Big deal.

3 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (18:47:36)

I’ve got ya beat by one year… and my grandma said to use a dollop of molasses in the water just before you put in the yeast! She said it was the best food
——————————————–
alot of must be about the same age…..I go to make gravy and my son is trying to learn……He says “why do you have to put in your hand,can’t you just use one of those little spoon thing……..nope i can’t

3 11 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Pacificnwgal (20:35:30) :

This is really outrageous and an example of total corruption. The kind we are trying to get rid of in our government.
—————————–
Isn’t their sense of entitlement annoying. I am so tired of all these folks (not just the Alaskan politicians) running around feeling like they can do what they want and it’s okay.

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

Ok, I saw a little “blurb” at cnn by palin’s dr. today, “she is ok” googled Palin’s medical records, and they all say waiting??? what gives?
Need links !

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (20:28:59)

Les Miserables is my most favorite. And the video has me in tears again. One day more!

Thank you.

3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

Pacificnwgal (20:40:28) :

Gravida 5, Para 4, Abortus 1 (5 pregnancies, 4 live births, 1 abortion?????

Is this what was reported?

This could mean she had a miscarriage, but what about Trig? He was a viable pregnancy obviously.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where is this link???

3 11 2008
West Virginian aka Halter Grasshopper Palin

Woo Hoo! Steelers beat the Redskins!!!!

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Crooked Chicago Politicians… RIGHT

3 11 2008
3 11 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

Does anyone know MSNBC email? I am sick they keep showing that GD Rev. wright BS!!!!
(on Rachel’s show no less!) Just shows repugs wave money they are like the rest!!
I’m so sick of seeing this BS, REALLY!!!!

3 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan
3 11 2008
El from Saskatchewan

Oh Oh
I just got spammed!
Palin’s Health Record
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/03/palin.health/index.html

3 11 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

OK. The Steelers came through. Steelers 23 Redskins 6. So THE REDSKINS 72 YEAR ELECTION PREDICTOR LEGEND IS BACK ON FOR THE NATION!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/redskins.asp

Black and Gold Forever!

3 11 2008
Glenn2008
3 11 2008
Trini

When the Branchflower report came out and SWWNBN exclaimed that she was so pleased that she was exhonerated, I scratched my head and went “huh”? Now that this report has come out I wonder…. Did SWWNBN assume (because there are really only 2 brain cells rubbing around in her brain) that the Branchflower report was that of Petumenos, which she knew in advance would be favorable? Alaskans, be afraid of this woman. Be very, very afraid.

3 11 2008
Marnie

I don’t see how the legislature would not have forced the Palin appointees to recuse themselves. They have a clear conflict of interest.
So the decision is not surprising.
However it is so outlandish to say it is OK for the governor and her family and staff to harass a private citizen, access and release personnel records and confidential court documents, that I doubt anyone but hardened Paleocons will take the decision seriously.

3 11 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

[quote]The doctor writes that, after Trig’s condition had been detected in utero, Palin underwent “follow-up perinatology evaluations to ensure there was no significant congenital heart disease or other condition of the baby that would preclude delivery at her home community hospital.”[unquote; italics are mine]

I find that hard to believe.

Antenatal diagnosis of congenital heart disease and Down’s syndrome: the potential effect on the practice of paediatric cardiology.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=483998

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Well, thank God, Mr. Monegan is now free to sue their socks off. I hope he’s awarded many millions and goes on to finance his winning election to whatever office he wants to hold in the Great State of Alaska. I know he would be a great public servant.

3 11 2008
responsiblecitizen08

peak9 (21:03:58) :
Your comments are not constructive and are without merit. There is nothing to investigate. Go back to living in your delusional state.

3 11 2008
Glenn2008

The “records” come from the the doctor who delivered Trig?
Why does it need to be emphasized that she had five kids? Imagine if Obama released a SUMMARY of his birth certificate…

“It comes nearly two weeks after Palin promised NBC’s Brian Williams that she would release her medical records to the public. In an Oct. 22 interview, Palin told Williams,

***** “I’m healthy, happy, I’ve had five kids, that’s going to be in the medical records,” *********

Palin did not release the records themselves. But the letter, which was written by Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, Palin’s family physician, details her recent medical history and her five pregnancies.”

3 11 2008
Trini

Don’t feed the troll!

3 11 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

new post?????

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

responsiblecitizen08 (21:08:33) :

Don’t feed the troll. They are stupid and insatiable. Starve them and they go away.

3 11 2008
Dianna

This sure has been a roller coaster ride.

3 11 2008
Pacificnwgal

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (17:25:49) :

Major b*tch!

Palin Defends Hank Williams, Jr. After He Says, “Obama’s Not Real Crazy About” The National Anthem
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What?? Where is this?

____________________________________

It’s on Huff post. But, it is really more stupidity.

3 11 2008
GJ in Idaho

OT but had to shout it….2-1, first presnct just voted Obama….just saw it on MSNBC….yes, yes, yes, we can….

3 11 2008
Dianna

To all that sent kind words and prayers concerning my brother, thank you and hugs to you!

I have posted somewhere else, but I want to say it again. I cried while reading what each of you had to say.

Hugs to you.

3 11 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (21:11:10)
Sorry, I couldn’t help it. Sleep deprivation and a desire to call out stupidity trumped my good senses.🙂

How is Georgia looking these days? I miss it something terribly. I think Obama may take the state. I hope Saxby goes down in flames. We have been getting calls from his campaign pretty steadily, which is funny since we live in Missouri now.

3 11 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (20:28:59) :

NOW we can all sing this! This day has been such a long time coming.

ONE MORE DAY


– – – – – – – – –
Aussie, thanks for reminding me to go and watch this again, how true, one more day.

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (20:56:37) :
Let them waste their bloody money. Watch the above video, and cry. The sicko’s are goin down in flames.

testerm (20:55:12) : More evidence of a desperate party about to implode.

3 11 2008
Ennealogic

I’m not a doctor, but according to Cathy Baldwin-Johnson’s statement, Sarah Palin had a baby with Down Syndrome, 5 weeks prematurely, and this doctor didn’t think it important that once the sac broke and water began leaking, 5 weeks prematurely, that Sarah check in to the nearest hospital for an exam?

Let me guess. Cathy will never be charged with malpractice. She’s done what she needs to do since Sarah has been such a good friend, appointing her and nominating her and so on. Sarah won’t point to her, Cathy is her alibi.

I do not believe you could find ANY physician (especially not an OB-GYN spec, which Baldwin-Johnson is not) anywhere in the US who would advise a patient like 44-yr-old Palin to go ahead and take a trip at 8mo to Texas, much less take ANOTHER trip at 8mo back to Alaska, after it was obvious that intervention may be required for the life of the (already diagnosed Down Syndrome) unborn.

If you can find such a physician, I’ll re-think my position.

3 11 2008
Pacificnwgal

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin (20:49:32) :

I was just responding to a comment above mine and wondering if this was true or not, or if someone was just speculating. I didn’t see a link in her post. I just checked to see if anything was out on Palin’s medical records and couldn’t find anything yet.

3 11 2008
Melangell aka Missile Blunt Palin

OT, and posted under McCain stuff on the Forum, but thought I’d share here before I head to bed. In standard Yahoo! format, the original mail from the campaign is below my reply, and I’m too tired to fix it.

I will be with all of you in spirit and prayers tomorrow. My 2 youngest will vote in their first presidential election and we will go as a family. I will carry the Mudpuppy spirit into the booth with me, and we will do our best to pour a bit of Blue into the midst of this SC red.

*********************************************************************
Mudpuppies,

Here is the first email I’ve received from the McCain campaign. it came tonight. Since I’m in South Carolina, it seems a bit desperate. Thought I’d share my reply.

Thank you for being such a critical part of my sanity over the past several weeks.

Yours in hope for a new era,

Melangell Mudpuppy
Lexington, SC

****************************************************

Dear John McCain,

I fully plan to make history tomorrow. As a white, middle class, female Cold War veteran of the United States Army Intelligence, mother and step-mother of five, bread winner in a family making somewhat under $100k per year (I make 3/4 of the total), with a son on his way to becoming an officer in the United States Air Force, I WILL make history by voting for Barack Obama.

I will vote against torture as policy for the United States.

I will vote against unilateral, pre-emptive military action.

I will vote against fear-mongering.

I will vote against tax cuts geared disproportianately toward the rich.

I will vote against corporate welfare, and the smearing of the poor.

I will vote against the gutting of the US Consitution.

I will vote agianst the secrecy, power-grabbing, and cynicism of the Cheneys, Addingtons, and Yoos of the past eight years – and the potential for those same types in your administration.

I will vote against cynical selections of candidates for offices as high as the Vice President.

I will vote against the cynicism of selecting a woman simply because she has a vagina and breasts, particularly since you could have selected Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Christy Todd Whitman, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or Elizabeth Dole. Had you selected a man, such as Chuck Hagel, Lindsey Graham, or any number of other talented, reasonable men, I would have seriously considered voting for you.

Once, not so long ago, I believed in your integrity and sense of honor. You and your campaign have kicked that belief in the gut.

As an intelligent, well-educated, middle-class taxpayer and registered Independent in South Carolina, I will vote tomorrow for my core beliefs in the best that this country stands for – the very things that I stood for during my military service in Cold War occupied Berlin. In doing so, I vote against everything the Bush administration, the Republican Party, and your campaign have insisted I recognize as your values.

Furthermore, I will be forwarding your email to me and my reply to Andrew Sullivan, Mudflats, and Talking Points Memo.

Have a great, and very quiet life. I wish the very best to you and your family. But most of all, I wish the hope and renewal of an Obama presidency for both my children and my country.

— On Mon, 11/3/08, John McCain wrote:

From: John McCain
Subject: Make History Tomorrow
To: palmerpc@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 10:14 PM

My Friend,

From the time I entered the Naval Academy at age seventeen I have been privileged and honored to serve my country.

Vote Throughout my years of service, I’ve been faced with challenges where I could have taken the easy way out and given up. But I’m an American and I never give up. Instead, I choose to show courage and stand up and fight for the country I love. Today, I am asking you to stand with me and to fight for our country’s future.

Our country faces enormous challenges and our next president must be ready to lead on day one. My lifetime of experience has prepared me to lead our great nation. I’m prepared to bring solutions to our economic challenges, bring our troops home in victory and improve our nation’s healthcare system.

Time and time again, my country has saved my life and I owe her more than she has ever owed me. I have chosen to show my gratitude through a life of service to our country and tomorrow, you will have a choice before you.

I humbly ask you to make the choice that will allow me to serve my country a little while longer by casting your vote to elect me as your next President of the United States.

Finally, I ask that you never forget that much has been sacrificed to protect our right to vote. We must never forget those Americans who, with their courage, with their sacrifice, and with their lives, have protected our freedom. It is my great hope that you will exercise your right to vote as an American tomorrow.

I thank you for your kind support, your dedication to our cause, and most importantly I thank you for your vote.

With sincere appreciation,

John McCain

JohnMcCain.com

3 11 2008
Actongue

found this out too

Petumenos’ firm has a history with Palin: in 2002, it handled a $15 million bond issue for the town of Wasilla to build a multimillion-dollar hockey complex. Palin, then mayor of the town, championed the project and the bond issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5874475&page=2

Does not seem to be all that impartial of an investigator
Wonder if that ties into her Housegate?

3 11 2008
Trini

@responsiblecitizen08 (21:17:16)

It’s ok. Take deep cleansing breaths!

3 11 2008
akmuckraker

New thread!

3 11 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Ennealogic (21:18:34) :
I think you are spot on. It was irresponsible for any physician to advise a pregnant woman with a high risk pregnancy to take the actions that Governor Palin took a during the Texas trip and subsequent delivery. I had a suspected amniotic leak at 7 months and my doctor demanded that I be seen in his office immediately. Even without the Down Syndrome diagnosis, she would have been considered high risk due to her age. Also, women that have delivered as many times as Palin tend to have fast labor and deliveries. The whole situation was irresponsible on the part of Palin and her physician.

3 11 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

responsiblecitizen08 (21:17:16) :

No problem – I totally understand wanting to call out stupidity. We mudpuppies are just too smart!

Georgia’s looking good. I think it will go to Obama (big) and I think Saxby’s going to lose (which he should – he’s such a Bush impersonator). Missouri, huh? The second tier of dominoes falling for Obama.

3 11 2008
snoskred

Thanks for giving me the troll heads up, they have been dealt with.

If you see a troll in the comments section, you can try dropping into the live chat on the forums – leave a message letting me know the name and the thread they are posting in, and I will take care of it as soon as I can.

I wondered what happened to that troll! It was dispatched by a troll flinger from down under! 🙂 AKM

3 11 2008
Trini

Shikago, your link didn’t work. The video is awesome! Maybe this will work:

And another Les Mis reference. Very powerful and moving:

And, a heartfelt send up to our troops ala Les Mis. Get kleenex.

3 11 2008
responsiblecitizen08

crust scramble,
Missouri is going to be tough. If Obama can get a large turnout in St. Louis and Kansas City, plus pull large numbers in the suburbs and do better than expected in rural areas, he may pull it off. There are a lot of evangelicals here, especially in the suburbs and they LOVE Palin. Southern Missouri is an extension of Arkansas. I saw a lot of McCain/Palin signs while down there in Springfield for the Biden rally a few weeks ago. I am in the northeast, rural area of Missouri. As a Southerner I have always been offended by the stereotyping of my state. After moving to Missouri, I am even more irritated. I have been around more bigots and uneducated folks here than I ever was in Georgia. No offense, to Missourians here. This is just my experience. It is going to be very close!

3 11 2008
MizKay [stuck in] Red Carolina

Melangell aka Missile Blunt Palin (21:20:20) :
Great letter! I can almost hear you delivering it as a speech. I really liked it. Thanks!

3 11 2008
MizKay [stuck in] Red Carolina

Oh yeah, I said I was going to bed. Bye! Trini, I’ll watch all the videos tomorrow. I’ve watched and sent the first one, but haven’t seen the other two. Thanks for posting them.

3 11 2008
whichferret

Ok, I have no idea if anyone has posted this link before because there are just too many comments to slog through, but this is a GREAT read http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081103/cm_csm/ycurley

3 11 2008
oc4obama

Hey Mudflatters,

I just read through all of the “report” posted at adn.com

I think the most interesting thing is when you go through all the email “evidence” at the end, it (unlike the Branchflower report) is 100% one sided from Palin and her staff and you see no email evidence from Monegan or anyone else from his side of the story. Seems pretty fishy to me ini that they were looking for an outcome, presented and parsed the evidence as they say fit and did not certanly act in an “independent” manner.

Fortunately we can still vote our disapproval and hopefully help Obama to victory for the entire U.S. and for you folks in Alaska really surprise the rest of the nation by really increasing the votes for Democrats.

Know hope and vote!

3 11 2008
Marnie

Appologies if this is a double posting, but I got knocked out of the site as this was posting.
Too much traffic on the site> Good for us.

Mel

I agree with you. I fear that the Bushies are cheating even more and better than they did in 2000 and 2004. It was their congress that pushed these awful voting machines off on the states.
Bush repealed posse comitatus for some purpose and I fear we will find out what the purpose is tomorrow and in the following days and weeks.

You honestly think the Nazi that rule this nation now are going away nicely and politely?

I sure hope I am wrong, but a Bushie has already sold his/her soul to the devil. They don’t sound like they have repented when channeled through McCain.

3 11 2008
whichferret

I canvassed in Independence, MO on Saturday and it went pretty well. Only got d@mned to h3ll once. Most people were pretty receptive. And in Kansas City metro there are many more Obama signs than McCain signs, for what that is worth

3 11 2008
whichferret

I am trying to send condolence on the other thread, but every time I go there I can’t seem to quit crying….and my brain can’t form a real thought. Anyone else having this problem?

3 11 2008
Trini

Here’s a couple more videos

Here’s Who’ll stop McCain (oh answer: Obama!)

Takin’ it back with Barack: for Swing voters:

3 11 2008
responsiblecitizen08

whichferret (21:42:48) :
Thanks for your hard work. I got a call from an Obama supporter today and she was pretty nervous. I told her my family would be supporting Obama and she instantly sound relieved. We spoke for a few moments and I thanked her for her call. I told her that it took a lot of courage to call people in support of your candidate. She told me that I was the nicest person she had talked to all day. That made me feel bad for her. Hopefully, her evening went better after we spoke. Thanks for making me fell more positive about Obama’s chances here.

3 11 2008
whichferret

I am just inside Kansas in the Kansas City metro area. Trust me we have some serious pockets of confusion here. That is what I am choosing to call these people. They clearly must be confused. Because otherwise they would be able to see that their lives would be better if they took care of other people and had a government that felt it was a good plan to take care of its citizens.

3 11 2008
Marnie

Do you really think that McCain’s Repocon lawyers would have had Palin file against herself if they had not already cooked the panel, and picked the lawyer, and corrupted the witnesses????

Nothing personal littly puppies but you’re using your ethical/logical approach to the issue not the Paleonazi approach. These are Bushies we are talking about here. They make their own laws. That’s why we want them the hell out of every elected and appointed office in the WHOLE F%(*#&g WORLD!!!

3 11 2008
knikgoose Hussein justaskin

@ Melangell aka Missile Blunt Palin

THAT was an awesome letter!

3 11 2008
vena45

First of all my heart goes out to the Obama family. About the troopergate ll report, there is no justice at all if they’re going to let this witch and her cronies get away with abusing their power. I’m not suprised at all because I knew they were going to rule in her favor just to save her bitchy little ass!

3 11 2008
Marnie

As actions continue against Palin in Alaska after her (I’ve got my fingers crossed still) loss today we will learn a lot about what the Republican Party’s attitude toward and plans for Sarah are.
Will she contine to get freebee legal support, verbal support, or will they cut her loose?
Remember Carol Burnete’s “The Stomach Turns?” Sounds of organ music rising in the background, announcer – “Tune in tomorrow for another episode of the trials of Sarah Baracuda on – big organ cord – “The Stomach Tuuuuurns.”

3 11 2008
Marnie

Remembrances of JFK, RFK, MLK.
You cannot imagine what it felt like to see the news footage of the peaceful crowds of listeners to MLK’s speech and to hear his words for the first time.
Fortunately or unfortunately many of you who did not see and feel the killing and violence of the 60’s and early 70’s.
We, of that generation, all remember where we were when these men died. When the Kent State slaughter occurred. The march at UT Austin that I was going to not joint, that I suddenly became student Marshall for, because the national guard had started murdering non violent students.
Austin police suddenly surrounding the Student Union for absolutely no reason and assaulting students who were in the halls and in the cafes eating. Arresting people just for being in the building, just being students.
How Oswald was allowed to be murdered. And on and on, all to the drumbeat of Vietnam. We were seeing news footage of that war, that is now censored, and all its ugliness and death, and the 50,000 from my generation who died for no reason.

It did change an entire generation. It was the era of the birth of the Peace Movement, the ERA, the Civil Rights Movement, draft dodging. And the birth of the Neocons and their verison of draft avoidance.
Hopefully, today will begin the Requiem of the negatives and decisiveness that have so tainted this nation since those violent tumultuous times.

I just listened to the song several of you have posted.
Yes.
This is my prayer for America.

3 11 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@Bec Hussein in Illinois (19:10:35) : and Carol(Chicago,IL) (19:11:35) :

Yeah, we watched. SP was NOT funny at all, and don’t you think she just might try to yank NBC’s license if (heaven and Toot forbid) the did get elected?

3 11 2008
Marnie

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (19:10:17) :

The Eyes of Texas Alaska are upon you,
All the livelong day.
The Eyes of Texas Alaska are upon you,
You can-not get a-way

Since that’s the Univeristy of Texas’ Fight Song, I guess if you transplant it to Alaska It would be the sports teams would be the Antlers instead of the Longhorns.
Maybe Rack Attack would work better.

4 11 2008
diana

IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE??????

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DOCTORS ON ANOTHER SITE WHO SAID THEY WOULD NOT ADVISE AIR TAVEL TO A PATIENT IN PALIN’S CONDITION…I JUST LOVE THAT SHE IS RIGHT TO LIFE BUT HAS SO LITTLE RESPECT FOR THAT LIFE UNLESS IT IS ON HER OWN TERMS AND THEN TO LEAVE THAT BABY OBLY AFTER A FEW DAYS OF BEING BORN….RIGHT TO LIFE?????

ALSO COULDN’T IT BE CALLED CONFLICT OF INTEREST REGARDING PETUMENOS EARLIER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PALIN ADMINISTRATION ????

ANYONE HEARD FROM WALT MONEGHAN??????

I THINK SOMEONE SAID TODAY FEELS LIKE CHRISTMAS, I WHEN TO THE GROCERY STORE LAST NIGHT AND ACTUALLY FELT LIKE I COULD SPEND MORE ON GROCERIES DUE TO THE CHANGE IN WASHINGTON…….I FEEL SO MUCH MORE HOPE…..

OBAMA 08

4 11 2008
bchboy1

voted at the crack of ass this morning….who would have thought my tiny lil’ town would have a line!
http://rickywood.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/msnbc-pollwho-do-you-hope-will-win-the-presidential-election/

4 11 2008
Michael

A state senator in my area was caught campaigning for Obama in a voter line before today. There was a huge line for people who wanted to vote ahead of time and there she was talking to people in the voter line for Obama. The state senator was forcefully removed by local police. First time ever, I heard that happening in my neighborhood when people were in line to vote.

Not surprised over the results of troopergate. The media didn’t have much on Gov. Palin, they tried to milk troopergate for what it was worth. I believe Gov. Palin would make a fine VP if her and McCain are elected!

4 11 2008
Big Al

Well, don’t feel too bad. Look, you got to use all the enuendo and make all the hoopla and everything… And they were kind enough to wait till the very last minute to put the word out, so you can take some comfort in that, I’d guess. I mean, if he’d have waited until after the election then it might have been some thought as to it’s being a political hack job anyway, and it would have looked even worse that y’all made all this noise over nothing. Just as a word to the wise, next time y’all want to blow a bunch of smoke when there isn’t any fire to go along with it, don’t get political cronies to do the dirtywork. It looks bad right off the bat, and when your found out (like here) it makes your total motivation to be questioned as nothing more than sour grapes… even if it is just sour grapes.

Look, I’m from Louisiana, and I’ve seen masters at work here. This whole thing was amaturish from the get go. Truth always outs you know.

4 11 2008
Big Al

Hey Diana, spend it while you got it. If/when Obama’s elected don’t look to keep it long.




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