Sarah Palin is a Socialist, and She Can’t Buy My Vote.

30 10 2008

Oh, how quickly they forget. While watching John McCain, and Sarah Palin decrying Obama for his “socialist” tendencies, I have found myself becoming increasingly amused. One of the things that defined Sarah Palin’s pre-VP candidate career in Alaska was the fact that nobody seemed to know what to make of her. I refer you to my comments on this, back in the beginning of June, 2008 titled “McCain’s a Greenie. Palin’s a Socialist. Hillary’s the President.”

I’m holding my sides laughing about the Newsweek article that has Alaskan’s all a-twitter, comparing Sarah Palin to Hugo Chavez. Having claimed my staunch neutrality about Sarah Palin, I’m enjoying standing in the middle of the swirling tornado that has become the Palin phenomenon and enjoying my popcorn. Is she a crazy creationist wingnut? A big business-hating, free-gas-doling socialist? A maverick hockey mom? The next Vice President? No one seems to know.

Obviously to regular readers, my “staunch neutrality” about Palin has gone the way of the Steller’s Sea Cow. (For you non-Alaskans; it’s extinct). I did not vote for Palin, but was willing to give her a shot. I like to think I’m open-minded. So, knowing what I know, and  all the recent “socialist talk” made me look up this old post, and I was amused.

I got my $1200 energy rebate check from Sarah Palin a couple weeks ago, and so did every other human being in Alaska.  This money, which came from the wealth of oil companies doing business in Alaska, got spread around by the Governor to help Alaskans defray the rising costs of energy that made the oil companies profitable enough to provide Alaska with the money for the rebate check that defrays the cost of energy…..(you get the circular idea).

At the Alaska Women Reject Palin rally here in Anchorage, a woman drove by as I was returning to my car. She leaned out of her window and said, “Are you going to get a $1200 check this year?” “You mean the rebate check? Yes,” I said. “So how can you hate Sarah Palin!?!” she quipped, looking angry and smug at the same time. “Are you going to SPEND it???” she spat. I said the first thing that came to mind, “Yes, I’ll probably donate it to the Obama campaign.” She screeched away. And I didn’t tell her the whole truth. I’ve actually spread my wealth around to lots of good progressive candidates, both in Alaska and outside.

It was an interesting exchange, though, and I’ve thought about it many times. I’ve heard other people use this logic, although not quite as directly. The basic question is “How can you vote against someone who hands you cash?” It’s really very startling. It presupposes not only that cash-in-hand is the ultimate goal we humans seek, but also that I am not making good on my end of this deal. I’ve been paid for my services, and now I’m not willing to deliver. Does this make anyone in Alaska who votes for Obama, a political prostitute who gets paid in advance, and then takes off with the cash without delivering the vote, thereby breaking some kind of implied, perverse, money-for-votes pact?  To the woman in the red car, apparently it does.

I’ve seen a few references in the mainstream media to Palin’s socialist tendencies, which is good. The fact that in a society that has public education, fire departments, public libraries, police service, Medicaire, and Social Security,  it seems odd to be having the conversation at all. But if Sarah Palin is going to use the term to cut down Barack Obama, she needs to be reminded that 12 weeks ago, she was being compared to Hugo Chavez by her own party, in her own state. And anyone in Alaska who IS voting for Palin because of that $1200 for every man, woman and child in the state, needs to come to terms and make peace with their “inner Socialist.”

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324 responses

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

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30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

AKM-
Insightful logic; I haven’t thought about the nature of the check, but- you’re right- it does fit the definition of socialism. Delicious irony…

And how about this- history repeating itself:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-nickolas/mccain-took-51400-from-pa_b_139396.html

30 10 2008
Big Al from Las Vegas

338 Obama – 200 McCain?

30 10 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

somewhere in top ten

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

nswfm CA:

I’ve never been in the top five, so I’m high fiving myself:)

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

As someone from CA, a net donor state, I get annoyed that Palin cuts taxes and then gets pork through Ted the felon and then distributes it to her constituency. The oil rebate is something else to me, but the tax cut and then getting money from the Feds seems like SHE’s redistributing wealth from the lower 48.

30 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Laughing hysterically!

30 10 2008
disenchanted tore

Just got in from work (and in the top ten? lol) gotta a LOT of catching up to do!

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

i just posted on other post about insurance

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

Big Al-

Is this wishing thinking, insightful logic, or from a web site? ( I so hope it’s true-)

30 10 2008
Chris Blask

She’s not buying the votes in Florida, either.

I volunteered at an event here in Sarasota, today. Here are 15,000 votes she didn’t buy (out of a population of 52,000). If Sarasota goes blue, so does Florida. If Florida goes blue – I’m sorry – but Alaska will have to deal with Palin.

Rally pics: http://www.motleymoose.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=573

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

I should have said first and please take Caribou Barbie back, she doesn’t seem to work, even though she has pretty new clothes….maybe she’s under warantee or something.

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

AKM, thanks for spreading the wealth around to the progressive causes, too. Also. (That’s my feeble attempt at word salad.)

30 10 2008
Lulu

AKM, you have had Palin’s # from the beginning. Socialist Sarah it is. Here’s what I don’t understand: in a way, doesn’t that woman’s line of thinking make voting in Alaska akin to prostitution or something? “We paid you so that makes it all right.”

@mhrt, I replied on the other thread but here’s what I wondered: will Obama healthcare plan help? Obama said it will accept pre-existing conditions…

30 10 2008
Cartoon Pig Dog

That’s hilarious, don’t spend your checks if you aren’t going to vote for the person authorizing it. I’m sure glad Bush can’t run again, I’d hate to feeel obligated to vote for him because I spent my stimulus check.

But like you, I spread it around, to Obama and to breast cancer research and I still donate to Obama once a week, looks like this will be the last week I do that, after next week he will be our new president. (ok, in January, but you know what I mean)

30 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Some great pictures from the Sarasota rally on the Motley Moose. The crowds just blow me away!

http://www.motleymoose.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=573

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

nswfm CA-

Still snickering about your Barbie comment…

And here’s some insight from McLame’s new BFF, Joe:
“Get out there and vote; it’s very important,” Joe said, after extolling the virtues of being well informed. “You get out here and get the American people back in charge of our government. Hold politicians’ feet to the fire when they mess up. That’s what we’re out here to do. All right?

Anyone willing to donate a fire extinguisher to John and Sarah? Preferrably a large sized, as they have done a lot of messing up…

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

just found out both my mother and sister will lose their kaiser health care jan1…….they will roll over in a atnea account…….this was from a retirement plan……..atnea plan is $1800. amonth for my sister and her husband………..she was disabled………..so guess what ..she has pre ex condition…….atnea will not cover meds…………which i know she will not be able to pay…after many tears…..she said ….what am i suppose to just die

30 10 2008
Trini

KO just named SWWNBN as the worst person in the world!!! Of course, we already knew that. Problem is, she’ll probably blame it on her “handlers”. What is she, a show dog?!?!?!

30 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Great read AKM

Palin=Chavez….this is just yummy!

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Reposting from last thread since I seem to have the knack for posting juuuuust as a new thread goes up.

Dang, people. It takes a long time to wade through all the comments. A little catching up.

eajphd Molten Contra Palin, I have no Harley, but I do have four tattoos and nine holes in my ears. I used to have a pierced belly button, but it wouldn’t heal properly. So, yeah, I guess Obama’s program last night wasn’t for me.

Sparky, what did you find interesting about my rants? I am curious–is it the fact that I was a tad bit underwhelmed yesterday by Obama’s program?

Let’sGetReal for “That One”, right on. You are speaking the truth. It’s one problem I have with hearing how ‘colorblind’ our society is these days or how we were a big ol’ melting pot. There is a great article in HuffPo about how white privilege means you don’t have to see racism because it doesn’t affect you, so you can declare that racism doesn’t exist. Or, like some white women are claiming, sexism is worse/more prevalent than racism. As a woman of color, I can assure you that both are alive and well.

Anyway, here is the article about racism:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-ferber/i-am-racist_b_139118.html

Here is a blog by a black woman, and she in this post, she blogs quite incisively on racism and sexism:

http://www.womanist-musings.com/2008/10/sexism-is-worse-than-racism.html

If someone tried to tell me that Obama is a socialist, I would reply, “No, he isn’t, but I’m going to vote for him anyway.” Bah.

I am glad when this will be all over because I am so freakin’ tired of the (manufactured) drama.

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

From today’s New York Times (1 hour ago):

A growing number of voters have concluded that Senator John McCain’s running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, is not qualified to be vice president, weighing down the Republican ticket in the last days of the campaign, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

All told, 59 percent of voters surveyed said that Ms. Palin was not prepared for the job, up 9 percentage points since the beginning of the month. Nearly a third of voters polled said that the vice-presidential selection would be a major factor influencing their vote for president, and those voters broadly favored Senator Barack Obama.

In a possible indication that the choice of Ms. Palin has hurt Mr. McCain’s image, voters said that they had much more confidence in Mr. Obama to pick qualified people to serve in his administration than they did in Mr. McCain….

Mr. Obama continues to have a significant advantage on such crucial issues as the economy, health care, and the war in Iraq….

Full story at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?hp

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

I feel for you, mhrt oregon”steve”. It’s just awful to know that healthcare is available, but you cannot access it because you don’t have the money.

That’s one reason I’m a socialist–universal healthcare.

30 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

nswfm CA (16:44:22) :

As someone from CA, a net donor state, I get annoyed that Palin cuts taxes and then gets pork through Ted the felon and then distributes it to her constituency. The oil rebate is something else to me, but the tax cut and then getting money from the Feds seems like SHE’s redistributing wealth from the lower 48.
+++++++++++++++

Ditto.

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

Cartoon Pig Dog-

Obama’s plan will help, although there are other things to do that studies have shown may be more effective in the short run: require insurance companies to use standardized forms/offer universal basic plan; reimburse doctors based on keeping patient healthy, not per procedure; coordinate patient care when numerous doctors are involved- I’ll try to find a web site about this.

Obama’s plan does require patients who have pre-existing conditions be covered; McCain’s- because he relies on buying on the open market- does not. Therefore, for us who have conditions (I’m a breast cancer survivor), insurance may be prohibitive or non-existent.

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (16:56:16) :

Dang! I thought you mentioned having a bike…oh well.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@Lulu (16:50:59) :
thanks…I really don’t know…i guess it depends on how fast he can get it working……but ….he has so many things that are all in amess…….where do you start first……i do not know why “that One” even wants this job……..he is one brave guy

30 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Palin is not only spreading the wealth, she is spreading an awful
lot of BS with it. Five more days…..
I wanted to share this story with you good people. My neighbor
is an avid Obama fan. I drove her to the registrars office to register.
The young lady was concerned that she would be rejected due
to an old felony conviction. Thanks to Mudflats and the links
you so kindly provide, I was able to convince her, that she should
try at least. She came by last evening and was sad. She had not
received her voter reg. card. I told her that it was more than likely
in the mail. She left still feeling rejected. About 30 minutes ago,
she stopped by and was tickled pink. It appears that the letter for
her was delivered to another neighbor by mistake. She is on cloud
nine right now. I have never seen her happier in the year that we
have been friends. Jumping up and down with joy, she left shouting
“I GET TO VOTE FOR OBAMA.” Made my day too. I will be driving
her and several others to the polls on Tuesday. Thank all of you for
linking me to sites that gave her this opportunity.

30 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Trini (16:55:19) :

What is she, a show dog?!?!?!
+++++++++++++++++++++

This is the most accurate, succinct description yet.

Dare we drift toward the breed of show dog? Say a Diva Pitbull? With a diamond studded collar from Tiffany’s and . . . lipstick.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

eajphd Molten Contra Palin, nope. Not me. I like ridin’ scooters, though.

Deuce2 AL, that’s an awesome story. Made me tear up just a little bit. Thanks for sharing it.

30 10 2008
Sparky

OT

ooooh…just heard Joe Biden on fire (somewhere) on NPR news, giving a speech and really giving Exxon HELL (sorry). NPR says Joe doesn’t get the big numbers as Obama, but he can sure whip up a crowd for Obama/Biden.

You Go Joe!

Obama/Biden 2008

30 10 2008
Big Al from Las Vegas

CO Almost Native (16:45:29) :

Big Al-

Is this wishing thinking, insightful logic, or from a web site? ( I so hope it’s true-)
___________________________________________________________________
The bookies at Intrade.com (us Vegas desert dwellers are always looking at the line from the bookmakers) have an average of 338 for Obama and 200 for McCain. But, they are calling it by an even wider margin: 354-174

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

One thing they could start with to save money on healthcare is STOP THE DAMNED DRUG ADVERTISING! Half of all ad expenditures is wasted, according to the adage, but you just don’t know which half….

I REALLY don’t care about Viagra, Nexium, etc. There is so much waste in the drug company ads alone, that would bring down the cost. The question is would the jerks pass it along to the consumer or keep it for the senior execs?

Insurance companies have a lot of waste in them, too, having worked at one in NYC. They cut down to the bone, brought in new C-level execs from a BANK (like that had anything to do with insurance pre Graham-Leach-Bliley) and then they brought in tons of consultants to make you fill out reams of paper to document each and every project. There was one consulting firm paid 250K/month which just did PowerPoint “decks” for the meetings.

It drove me nuts after living through the very lean era, so I left.

30 10 2008
Trini

@Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (17:04:19

The breed of SWWNBN: Well, lots of fluff and puff. Needs constant and extensive grooming. Will jump into the water without blinking. I hate to disparage any breed, but I gotta go with Poodle! (sorry Poodles!)

30 10 2008
Sparky

Deuce2 AL (17:02:03) :
That is a good story…chills

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

On the Last Thread Trini (13:09:58) :suggested a title for a tell all book by the Palin children: “What to do when your water breaks: lessons my mother taught me.”

I’d like to modify it it to: Lessons from my mother – doing as she does not as she says.

I also would like to suggest that: “What to do when your water breaks” should be the first chapter.
Dressing a Moose should also be a chapter, as should Dressing a Candidate with a budget as big as a moose.
Needless to say there are many other chapter suggestions that should be added, which I am sure other mudflatters may be happy to suggest.

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

mhrt oregon “steve”

I feel your pain, too. Has your sister contacted your state- the insurance commissioner, or related department? Sometimes an omsbudman can help, or some states have an insurance pool for people with issues like your sister.
She can also contact the pharm company that makes her (major) med, and see what programs they have to provide free/low-cost meds. Some do-

Does she know her health rights? She needs to find out if Aetna can deny her the meds she is currently on, especially if it is through health insurance. I don’t know about your state; I do know there are federal regs about continuation of coverage…

30 10 2008
antiAnti

I have to defend poodles (the canine kind) here. Poodles are usually very intelligent. Palin, er, not so much.

30 10 2008
Lulu

OFF TOPIC AND WAY DECLASSÉ….

I was in the grocery store and saw the new cover for the Enquirer. Anyone else see that headline about Palin’s other man?

30 10 2008
Camie

Is it me or is anyone else concerned about the fact that two 527’s will be running Jeremiah Wright ads nationally on all channels (including CNN who refused to run the Obama Infomercial last nigh) every day until the election. I don’t understand how you don’t support a positive up building infomercial but you are going to continuously play the JW greatest hits, the purpose of which is to paint Obama as risky, a radical and renegade who can’t be trusted.

I don’t know, but I am really starting to get VERY SCARED that they are going to take this away from us AGAIN. My husband and I wondered why McCain looked so calm and happy and confident that he is going to win.

30 10 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

@ asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN
RE: I am glad when this will be all over because I am so freakin’ tired of the (manufactured) drama.

AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!!!

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Chris Blask (16:46:53) :

She’s not buying the votes in Florida, either.

I volunteered at an event here in Sarasota, today. Here are 15,000 votes she didn’t buy (out of a population of 52,000). If Sarasota goes blue, so does Florida. If Florida goes blue – I’m sorry – but Alaska will have to deal with Palin.

Rally pics: http://www.motleymoose.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=573
———————————————————–
Great review and pics! Thanks so much.

30 10 2008
SMR

@mhrt Steve —

I responded to you on the last thread, here it is again. Sending you positive vibes…:

@mhrt Steve — No! That’s so sad & awful! Hoping hoping hoping that Obama is elected so that your sister, and others like her, can get the care that they need. There but for the grace of God… we are all walking such a fine line these days. Losing a job, major medical problem, one small step from American Dream to American nightmare. I am thinking of you & your family and sending warm wishes & hopes for a better outcome and future.

On a clinical note — can your sister talk to a state social worker or someone like that who can advise her re: her rights in regard to healthcare and medications? My first question would be whether or not it is legal, my second question would be how to get her into the medicaid system if that’s necessary.

I know that sometimes we need to spend some time just listening to loved ones who are hurting, but when we’re done listening we have to start making plans to make things better.

Keep us updated.

30 10 2008
Trini

@eajphd Molten Contra Palin (17:09:04)

You’re on.
Ok, here are some proposed chapter headings of “Things My Mother Taught Me:

IV: Things that fall off the truck: How to build a house.
V: Bad grammer: Never put a “G” at the end of a word.
VI: Social graces: Always wink and blow kisses. It gets them every time.
VII: Make friends happy: Contracts to work on the Mansion for ALL!!
VII: Duty: Take time to go to Iraq for that brake cutting problem.

More…………..?

30 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/etc/graphs.html

Click on the little boxes above the graph for ‘life expectancy’ etc. This is a good program that was on PBS Frontline. Don’t let the Rethugs snow you about Universal Health Care – they are just looking after lining their own pockets by keeping drugs and insurance high, at your health’s expense.

30 10 2008
BLUE OREGON

WEEKEND RALLIES SCHEDULED?

I’ve been traveling without access to my computer, so haven’t been able to keep up with all the exchanges here–I was actually having Mudflats withdrawal pains!

Two questions for all the Alaskan residents here (I’m a former Alaskan who immensely misses that beautiful state)

Question #1:
Are any upcoming rallies in Anchorage or other Alaskan communities planned for this weekend to show how unpopular Palin is now in her home state? With all the negative attention that seems to be going Alaska’s way due to many of the states’ voters declaring they’re willing to vote for a convicted felon for Senator, it would seem a good move to show all are not in step with this kind of mind-set.

Question #2:
Have any recent reliable polls been taken to dispell the myth that Palin is the country’s most popular governor that could be shared with the MSM? I would think it would help clear up that misconception.

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

Cartoon Pig Dog-

I am not sure this is the site I heard about on NPR, but I think this has good information on health care reform:

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/programs/programs_list.htm?attrib_id=11932

30 10 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

@ mhrt oregon”steve”
RE: “what am i suppose to just die?”

I didn’t have insurance for the last EIGHT years. I just got it. Good thing too because I had MRSA when I finally went to the doctor…you know the flesh eater. So I can tell you that in answer to your question, that depends on who you ask.

Ask Obama, he’ll say, “No, you deserve health care!”
Ask McCain, He’ll say, “I WAS A POW SCREW YOU!!!” Then he’ll make that damn Grampy McSame Noise “Ehhhh!”

30 10 2008
Camie

AKM great article. I was just reading the AP story about this. Wow no state tax or income tax and you get checks from the states resources. What I don’t understand is why is it that the oil revenue belongs only to Alaskan residents. Isn’t Alaska part of the U.S. Do people that live off the coast of Florida, Louisianna or other states where they drill for oil in the U.S. get the same benefits?

30 10 2008
Mollys Mum

Anyone watching Rachel? She is interviewing BO and I tell you, those two are just SO SMART. It makes me all warm and glowy just to listen to them. They’re actually a nice match, thought I wish Rachel weren’t so nervous about the election, as she makes me that way too. LOL.

Sorry to interrupt–AKM, I haven’t even read your latest blog but will get back to it the minute Rachel is over.

30 10 2008
Lulu

Camie wrote: ” don’t know, but I am really starting to get VERY SCARED that they are going to take this away from us AGAIN. My husband and I wondered why McCain looked so calm and happy and confident that he is going to win.”

McCain looks calm and happy because he is on a higher dose of medication.

30 10 2008
Whabs, Seattle, WA.

LOL Mollys Mom

YES!
She is so witty and smart I just LOVE her. And her smiley eyes are wicked. The nicest thing about Rachel is she is REALLY FLUFFING SMART. I admire her sexy brain!

30 10 2008
Dianna

Bristol’s Book

Chapter VIII: How to Get Home When Sent to an Event on a One-Way Plane Ticket

30 10 2008
testerm

Cheer up Mudpuppies and play the Palin game!

http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/dresslikepalincom.html

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@CO Almost Native (17:13:37)
Thanks for the ideas…..i need to copy and past this to myself

30 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Looks like a lot of “Reagan Republican Wall Street Bankers” are in touch with their “inner Socialist” too these days. They got those nice billion dollar government checks for their banks too. My, my how times have changed for them too since June 2008 just like it did for “Ice Floe Barbie”.

30 10 2008
empish

Why the hell are we footing the bill for her campaign expenses and what can we do about it! Where is the recall petition and where can I sign it! If there isn’t one, lets do another online petition demanding answers to this issue, and send copies to any media outlet that will read it.
Is the state going to be reimbursed by the McCain campaign? BETCHA NOT

30 10 2008
Bev

Rachel Maddow should at least be considered for WH Press Secretary when Obama takes office – she’s funny, she’s uber intelligent, she’s witty, and she can skewer stupidity a mile away

30 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Oh ain’t hypocrisy grand! LOL

As I was reading the blog I kept thinking she has just bought your vote. I am sure in SP’s mind that is what she was thinking as she made the deal and then mailed out those checks.

30 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein ProAmerican Goodwill Shopper Palin

When is someone gonna try to buy MY vote? I’ve been givin’ it away for FREE, all these years. Also.

30 10 2008
girldujour

damn you’re good

30 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

But, it wasn’t a gift from Sarah!
It was a gift from the taxpayers and legislature of 1976 that just keeps on giving!
http://www.pfd.state.ak.us/historical/index.aspx

State of Alaska, Permanent Dividend Fund Division, Historical Info:
“1976
Voters pass a constitutional amendment to establish the Permanent Fund (Alaska Constitution, Article IX, Section 15).
1980
First Permanent Fund dividend legislation enacted. The legislation established a program giving every adult Alaska resident $50 for every year of residency since statehood in 1959 and also established a Dividend Fund. Payment of dividends were stayed under litigation (Zobel v Williams) challenging the constitutionality of the program.
1982
U.S Supreme Court ruled the 1980 legislation unconstitutional. In response to the litigation, the legislature passed legislation authorizing equal dividend payments to all six-month residents. The first dividend amount was $1,000. The first dividend checks were distributed June 14, 1982.
1983
Residency period defined as 6 months ending March 31. Filing due date established as June 30.
1985…..and so on”

Every legislature since 1976 has dished out the payments, although the amounts have changed.
Starting with Gov. Hammond.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/03/national/03hammond.html

“Jay Hammond, who went from bush pilot, trapper and professional hunter to become the fourth governor of Alaska, earning Alaskans’ gratitude by giving them annual dividends from gushing new oil revenues,…”
“Mr. Hammond, a Republican, persuaded voters to approve the establishment of a permanent fund to handle the state’s petroleum royalties.
The fund, which today totals about $30 billion, is used to help cover state expenditures, while interest from it pays the annual dividends. Payments peaked in 2000, with $1,963.86 paid to each person with at least a year’s residency in the state; last year’s payment was $919.84.”(This article is from 2005)
So, Sarah didn’t set this up,..Jay Hammond did,..and Jay Hammond would be rolling in his grave if he heard about SP’s conservation ideas.
Hmmm,… a Repug environmentally-conscious socialist, whodathunkit?

More info on the APFC:
http://www.apfc.org/home/Content/theapfc/faq.cfm

30 10 2008
Michele

nswfm CA (16:44:22) :,

I think this is a very valid point that should be pushed harder. It’s not just Alaska. Many southern red states benefit from redistribution from blue states. The Northast and mid-Atlantic and some in the Midwest, in addition to CA, pay far more in federal taxes than they receive in federal subsidies. For people in these areas to complain about ‘redistribution’ is extremely ironic.

30 10 2008
Catherine Howard

I caught two young women tearing down a large (5ft X 5ft) Obama/Biden sign yesterday. It felt good to report them to the police.
I hope the owners of the property where the sign was located, get it back up as soon as possible. The property abuts a church which serves as a polling place!
Has anyone read the http://www.MargaretandHelen.wordpress.com blog site? Hilarious political insight from an 82 year old woman and her best friend of 60 years!

30 10 2008
Bobg

nswfm CA-In 2004 (the last year that figures were available) the drug companies spent 57.5 million dollars on marketing. That same year they spent 31.5 million dollars on research.

30 10 2008
Trini

Bristol’s book:

IX: Abstinence: Huh? Oh, never mind.

30 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

“Anyone watching Rachel? She is interviewing BO and I tell you, those two are just SO SMART. It makes me all warm and glowy just to listen to them. They’re actually a nice match, thought I wish Rachel weren’t so nervous about the election, as she makes me that way too. LOL. ” Molly’s Mummy–
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

YES, MM and did you see the part where she skewered the evil one about the fillies shout out? HILARIOUS!

I want Rachel to run for Pres one day!

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I have a troll management question. What happens to trolls that post on mudflats? Do they just eventually slither away unfed or are they somehow blocked by AKM from posting?

I can ban trolls, and I do when I find them. Most trolls only post once anyway, but sometimes they try all kinds of things to be able to post again. I watch them behind the scenes. AKM

30 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod

Mollys Mum (17:30:31) :

Anyone watching Rachel? She is interviewing BO and I tell you, those two are just SO SMART. It makes me all warm and glowy just to listen to them. They’re actually a nice match, thought I wish Rachel weren’t so nervous about the election, as she makes me that way too. LOL.
————
Man. I agree 100%. And you can tell Obama is delighted at her brilliance. Geez. Wouldn’t Rachel make a great something/anything in the Obama administration? Any thoughts???

hose Hussein hotrod

30 10 2008
Bobg

Sorry that was supposed to be billion on the drug marketing vs research.

30 10 2008
Lulu

Eyes, I believe the trolls get blocked.

30 10 2008
shilo442

@ Camie
I’m getting scared too, just got a call awhile ago to volunteer at the phone bank here in PA. The guy told me their worried, said the in polling don’t look as good as it should. I thought he was up about 12 points here. I guess it’s the ” T” part of Pa. that their worried about.

I was feeling good, now I’m not feeling to well again. I’m so worried

30 10 2008
West Virginian aka Halter Grasshopper Palin

Ok, I’m worried too and seeing that Camie and Shilo are worried made me worse. I just want this election to be over and Obama be our president.

30 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (17:49:41) :

I have a troll management question. What happens to trolls that post on mudflats? Do they just eventually slither away unfed or are they somehow blocked by AKM from posting?
———————————–

They get invited to AKM’s “Trollstock” out on an ice floe where “Ice Floe Barbie” hopefully will be going to starting next week!

30 10 2008
Erin

The rebate felt like a bribe to me, so I passed it on to Obama and a few other worthy causes. I didn’t want anyone asking me why, if I was so negative about Palin, did I accept the check. There’s my answer.

30 10 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

Rachel is the best. She is serious smart and intelligent, yet amusing and witty. Great interview with Obama.

Mudpuppies: I just don’t know how I would have survived the last 2 months without you and this blog. I am a nervous wreck, and when I hear people repeat the horrible McCain lies, I just want to scream.

Okay, that’s my rant. Now everyone PLEASE VOTE!

30 10 2008
Ennealogic

I am so sick and tired of the “It’s amazing, how a pill can make a man larger!”

Give me a break, people.

Tell me how to make a man more honest or more ethical or more resolved to stand up against corruption!

30 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

Hi Mudpuppies,
I work at an elementary school who has “kid voting” going on and a little 2nd grader was chatting me up about it. I said,
“well, who’d you vote for?”
and he said, “McCain.”
I was dumbfounded–
this is Hawaii after all but he is a little “haole” (caucasian) boy with a rich grandpa…so it made a little more sense until…he then said, “Obama wants to kill babies.”
I paused and said, mildly, “Oh, I don’t know that that’s true.”
You see, I don’t want to squelch his right to his opinion or his vote (even tho’ it doesn’t count at this point in his life.

I thought about how rabid we get as adults about our beliefs and this made me really see that we have to be careful what we say to the children.
On Both Sides.

Just sayin’

30 10 2008
Lulu

shilo 442 wrote: “The guy told me their worried, said the in polling don’t look as good as it should. I thought he was up about 12 points here. I guess it’s the ” T” part of Pa. that their worried about. I was feeling good, now I’m not feeling to well again. I’m so worried.”

I got worried about PA again after seeing the new footage this week from Pottsville. But all we can do is keep trying there; I will be going to eastern PA on Election Day to help out.

@Eyes Wide, do you think PA will hold blueness?

In other news – Obama is even threatening now in Arizona & running new ads! He even might put in a campaign stop there!

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

Holy COW! Almost double the money on those idiotic ads for drugs people don’t need over that what they spent on research???? Who thought that was a good idea? My guess is a GOP-controlled Congress.

I know my sister got asthma from living close to the freeway near UCLA, but did she ask for Advair? No, but it was precribed anyway and seems to help–is there something cheaper? Maybe, something that is generic that controlled asthma for years? What about cholesterol? Could a five dollar bottle of psyllium husk work to reduce that?

It’s disgusting that we pay for this when there are people who could use normal foods to control illness, but the system pushes pills.

30 10 2008
Sue

@oregon steve–You probably already know this, but just in case, try Oregon Health Care. They cover many people who need health care. Also, call your county social services and explain your sister’s needs; and PPARX is a potential source if she needs Rx’s but cannot afford them. ALSO, I am not sure, but didn’t Clinton sign into law a bill that said when your company switches ins. companies, the new one cannot exclude you for pre-existing conditions? I have been very impressed with our states’s (Oregon) programs for people in need. I will pray for you.

Sue in Grants pass

30 10 2008
Michele

CO Almost Native (17:00:25) :,,

It just breaks my heart to hear stories like this, too. I have had hypertension first diagnosed at age 12, probably genetic in origin. I can not get individual health insurance at any price. Can’t even get brokers to return my calls. We actually live in a United States where corporations get to determine who is worthy of health care and where they can legally discriminate against individuals based on health status. The question is, is this the United States we want to be living in? Is this the best our obscenely wealthy and wonderfully resilient country can do? I don’t think so. We can and must do better. Lead the way, President Obama.

30 10 2008
DrChill

Buy my votes !!??

Well that was pretty explicit in the last presidential election. Bush honored his promise to pay us for electing him…

That is how its done , isn’t it? There’s a quid pro quo. Do this you get paid.
I thought it was so sleazy so transparent so unethical.
THAT was spreading the wealth around. It wasn’t just discounting the cost (tax) of government service, it was re-distributing wealth.

And no, we don’t have anything like socialism. The government does not own the means of manufacture and distribution of goods. That’s not very American.

Promote the general welfare is.

Fun fact.

There are about 27 million people in Iraq. We’ve spent about 600-700 billion in Iraq. That’s about $25,000 per person. Couldn’t we have just bribed Iraqis to cheer us and throw flowers as we passed ?

Compared to $25,000, $1,200 seems like small change, huh.

Just a thought…

30 10 2008
lynn hussein hussein (MA)

Camie (17:18:44) :

Is it me or is anyone else concerned about the fact that two 527’s will be running Jeremiah Wright ads nationally on all channels (including CNN who refused to run the Obama Infomercial last nigh) every day until the election. I don’t understand how you don’t support a positive up building infomercial but you are going to continuously play the JW greatest hits, the purpose of which is to paint Obama as risky, a radical and renegade who can’t be trusted.
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Any thoughts on this? What to do? I am also very very concerned. I thought Barack handled the questions brilliantly last winter, but I am feeling extremely tense about it right now. Especially with the news that my in-laws are all voting the Rethug ticket, and although I thought they were smart people and knew how to read, their two main reasons are socialism and Rev. Wright.

The only things I could think of to do are donate money and keep working in NH, the only state near me that’s at all in play. There’s got to be more!!!

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

Rachel Maddow maybe could be press secretary.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Hands off! Rachel is mine! I love, though, how Barack refused to take her bait about denouncing conservatism. How can there even be a comparison between a thoughtful, sober, self-confident, reassuring Barack Obama and an erratic, arrogant, seething, forgetful John McCain? It’s unfathomable to me.

Bev, I would love to see Rachel as Press Secretary or Spokesperson. She would do an excellent job.

Lock Pepper in Honolulu, yes, I want Rachel to run for prez as well. That would be amazing.

whabs in Seattle, thanks for the backup. I hope you saw my post saying how touched I was by your story.

Sarah Palin is an empty vessel in which any toxic brew can be poured.

30 10 2008
Lulu

@ Lynn, did you see this link on the other thread – maybe for your relatives: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-top-ten-rea.html

Also, I posted a few ideas near the end of the thread for your relatives, Wright and race.

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Trini (17:21:26) :
More proposed chapter headings of “Things My Mother Taught Me:

VIII Real Friendship 1 – friends are only good when they’re useful, afterwards
knife them in the back.
IX – Real Friendship 2 – how to know if they’re real friends – will they build
your house for you and keep everything off the books?
X – Virtue – stuff you talk about when you’re really winking instead of just
smirking.

30 10 2008
Bea

LOL. Alec Baldwin on Letterman about Sarah Palin (imitates her accent and calls her ‘Bible Spice’):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/alec-baldwin-imitates-sar_n_139169.html

30 10 2008
Camie

Thank Lu Lu I needed that laugh. I hope that is the reason and not because he knows and has a plan to take this election from us. I don’t think I will rest easy until Tuesday and Obama is the POTUS.

30 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

@Catherine Howard:
I’m not allowed to read their blog whilst drinking coffee as I spat all over my keyboard the first time! Hilarious,- especially when read aloud!

30 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

nswfm CA (17:59:04) :

Rachel Maddow maybe could be press secretary.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

but what would we do without her crisp, intelligent, insightful, and hilarious show?
Okay, I guess I can be unselfish and share her with the country….

30 10 2008
hockey puck palin

First!

30 10 2008
Lulu

You’re welcome, Camie.

Has everyone seen this NYTimes story already?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?_r=2&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Palin is dragging down the ticket in the last days of the campaign.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

thanks I am saving to a folder ……her meds plus insurance would be about 44000. a month……i told her i wish we had known about this earlier……………she could have been one of the people in his ad last night……….thanks again

30 10 2008
kimosabe

Hey Alaska isn’t merely socialist, it is downright KOMMUNIST! The state actually owns the Prudhoe Bay oilfields, sort of like a big collective oil farm. And the wealth from that collective gets spread to everyone in Alaska, both as state revenue and contributions to the Permanent Fund (from which all Alaskans draw annual dividend). Karl Marx would love it!

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA, you can email AKM, and s/he takes care of it.

I think I am emotionally flatlining right now. My brain (and heart) can’t take it much longer.

30 10 2008
DrChill

Michele (17:57:11) :

CO Almost Native (17:00:25) :,,
====================
Usually, pre-existing conditions are excluded for a period of time but are included later.
You may want to pay for insurance and treatment for your pre-existing condition, until your insurance covers it.
Its expensive, but not impossible…

30 10 2008
prettybrowntee

I went to the 11pm late night rally here in Florida with Obama and Clinton. It was sooooo awesome there was 35,000 people out that time of night wow. It was awesome. The only thing I didnt like was that I had to walk a half hour from my car to the event sight because there were soooo many cars. Other than that it was great. I even got a close up of Obama as his entourage of cars drove by me as I trekked the half hour back to me car. LOL🙂

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I can tolerate a troll poster so long as it is respectful. One of my big complaints about most drinkers of the red Koolaid is their utter refusal to listen to any opinion dissonant with their world view. I like to think that we blues do not drink anyone’s Koolaid, we have our eyes wide open and can see truth, hence my selection of the moniker Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA. I do not believe that merely listening to a troll will corrupt my mind with its siren song.

This is AKM’s site and I am grateful for it. I would suggest we here trolls out so long as they are benign and non threatening. Ultimately, of course, it is totally AKM’s site and completely AKM’s decision.

30 10 2008
prettybrowntee

Oh I hope Ms Palin is on her way home to the beautiful state of Alaska. I am sooo nervious that the republicans and McAngry will try to steal it again. Palin can take her happy self back.

30 10 2008
lynn hussein hussein (MA)

Blessings and thanks to SMR and Lulu, who shared some wonderful thoughts and ideas in the previous thread regarding countering the Rev. Wright bullshit. I’ve copy/pasted their brilliant thinking here, and I trust in the amazing mudflats community to generate more:

If race is an issue for your relatives who are for McCain, here’s what I would tell them. Obama’s mother was white. His maternal grandparents were white. Have they seen the Obama infomercial on barackobama.com? It’s very clear how much Obama loves his mother and his maternal grandparents. And the pictures are so touching.

And there are (and were) white members of the church Obama attended the entire time he was there. This is a racially inclusive church.

Rev. Wright did not preach hatred; he preached the truth about America’s HISTORY. Some people do not want to face some of the terrible events that have occurred on American soil, and around the world in the name of “America” (see “War in Iraq,” for one example.). Others believe that in order to make things better, we cannot stay in denial, and must face the truth.

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As usual, all of the M/P Rev Wright hate-mongering is taking the good Rev out of context. Is there any way to get a verbatim transcript or video of the quote being used by the hate-mongering repubs?

My only response to that sort of rubbish is that black people have the right to be angry! I’m angry about how they’ve been treated too. We ALL should be. Why are people not ashamed of how they’ve been treated, how all non-white races are treated? We should be feeling guilty, not attacking a man (US military veteran Jeremiah Wright) who is a good Christian, served his country in the war, and has something to say that reminds us of our crimes against non-white citizens? And after we’re done feeling guilty we need to channel that into a way to effect positive changes in the US.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@Whabs, Seattle, WA. (17:24:54) :
thank goodness you caught it…..that stuff is nasty

30 10 2008
Lulu

In case anyone is wondering, I am not a troll. I am the kind of person that if I were a troll, I would actually tell you.

30 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Trini – I’ve got a show dog and I hate to have him compared to something as shallow as that socialistic secessionist. Fact, if I told the poor critter that someone compared him to her, he’d prolly cry.

30 10 2008
mtnmama

Right on! Palin is a moron as we all know. Good for you giving the money to the Obama campaign! I love it! Only 4 MORE DAYS!!! Let’s go OBAMA!!!

30 10 2008
rf11 in FL

Socialist Sarah, Queen Redistributor!

Ever since Cajun Boy posted that there is a story coming out about Trig, I’ve been reading everything I can find on his birth. There’s no question that something is fishy.

I’m feeling more and more confident that Trig is not Sarah’s baby.

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

“A growing number of voters have concluded that Senator John McCain’s running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, is not qualified to be vice president, weighing down the Republican ticket in the last days of the campaign, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

All told, 59 percent of voters surveyed said that Ms. Palin was not prepared for the job, up 9 percentage points since the beginning of the month. Nearly a third of voters polled said that the vice-presidential selection would be a major factor influencing their vote for president, and those voters broadly favored Senator Barack Obama.

In a possible indication that the choice of Ms. Palin has hurt Mr. McCain’s image, voters said that they had much more confidence in Mr. Obama to pick qualified people to serve in his administration than they did in Mr. McCain….

Mr. Obama continues to have a significant advantage on such crucial issues as the economy, health care, and the war in Iraq….”

Full story at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?hp

30 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Big Al –
The bookies at Intrade.com (us Vegas desert dwellers are always looking at the line from the bookmakers) have an average of 338 for Obama and 200 for McCain. But, they are calling it by an even wider margin: 354-174
_________________

Had a dream last night. If McCain reaches 200, Obama’s goose gets cooked.

I went back to sleep, secure in the knowledge that McCain’s not going to get close to 200 EVs.

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

Spam filter being very picky. Can you provide some guidelines, AKM?

30 10 2008
nswfm CA

Thank you all for keeping me from going totally nuts since 8/29. I am so happy to have gotten the info, volunteering activities, ideas, support and laughs from this great group of concerned and active citizens. Thank you AKMuckraker–you deserved the blog award.

Now please, take Caribou Barbie back and make sure there is a thorough investigation on all of the -gates. Housegate, Trooper II, etc. May she spend a lot of time in the Real Big House–the slammer. And no redecorating it, either.

30 10 2008
Lulu

@Lynn, I am so glad you found it useful! You are most welcome. I hope it helps with your relatives. I love what SMR wrote.

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

DrChill:

I have not had a problem with continuous coverage, because I get Certificates of Health Coverage from each company/insuror, before one of us either leaves the job, or if the company changes the carrier. As long as there is not a break in coverage, either direct or through COBRA, of more than (I think) 120 days (I might be wrong on the number of days; my daughter, who is a broker, can confirm the fed rule), my pre-existing condition is covered without a break.

Companies are required by federal law to provide Certificates-

Some companies/insurors require you to provide the Certificate, others don’t- but I always get one, and each is in my health file.

30 10 2008
Lulu

@Lynn. Donna Brazille spoke at a New Yorker event with Jeffrey Toobin, and she talked about how Obama was carried for nine months in a white woman’s womb (in reference to the racist attacks), and then Brazille said more amazing, moving things. I love Donna Brazille. I will try to find that video link from the New Yorker site & post it here.

30 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/babies-and-bigger-kids-fo_n_139183.html

Obama and the children–(get your kleenex)
Sorry if this is a repost…

30 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

If Palin’s rating is 61 and the WV gov is 5th or 6th in popularity with 73, then how can Palin be most popular?

30 10 2008
shilo442

@ lynn hussein hussein (MA) (18:10:49) :
You are a darling, What you wrote couldn’t have been said better.

Fox news is the one that tried to paint Rev. Wright as a nut case who hates America. They like to leave a lot of words out of someone’s sentence and make it sound bad. That Hannity is one rotten WHITE TERRORIST.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

I would feel the teensiest bit sorry for Palin if she didn’t have such unjustified confidence in herself. She is phenomenally in over her head, and she doesn’t even know it.

Then I think of her as VP, and any trace of pity/sympathy disappears.

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

Erin (17:54:18) :

“The rebate felt like a bribe to me, so I passed it on to Obama and a few other worthy causes. I didn’t want anyone asking me why, if I was so negative about Palin, did I accept the check. There’s my answer.”

BRAVO Erin! I did the same thing! And it felt great. It was the only way to wipe off the slime of SP that was trying to stick to my jacket and pants and hair and hands and …

30 10 2008
ira2

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (18:05:55) :

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA, you can email AKM, and s/he takes care of it.

I think I am emotionally flatlining right now. My brain (and heart) can’t take it much longer.

Me too :o( There’s just too much of it – well, mostly all the hate and bad stuff is what gets to me, and after so much of it, self-preservation tells me that I need to “escape” into emotional detachment.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin, she was the most popular at eighty-plus percent. She isn’t any more. So sad.

30 10 2008
Regi

You know for all their talk about how “socialism” discourage enterpreneurship, keeps people from trying and pullling their proverbial bootstraps, I don’t see to many rich folk looking to marry their kids off to poor folk, do you?

30 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

I have to stop watching the Yahoo Poll numbers game. Of course, I expected McLiar to catch up some, but I did NOT expect to see Obama’s go down. The hatefilled ads will work with the last undecideds. I don’t really believe anyone can truly be undecided at this point, if they have half a brain. I mean, just look at SWWNBN and her press these days….never mind her running mate’s obvious issues.

I have to hold out hope that this election will be fair, counted, and not entrenched in controversy. I don’t think the country can handle another breakdown in the election justice system.

I am not breathing easy about things tonight. The thugs are not beyond anything at this point. And their accomplices are just plain rotten. I hope McLiar has some semblance of dignity left and denounces the Wright ads. I bet not though. He’s sold his soul.

God help us all. and GOBAMA!

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (18:22:18) :

“Then I think of her as VP, and any trace of pity/sympathy disappears.”

We DON’T back down until she does – never let your guard down until her ambition is tamped out or she finds remorse. I can forgive, and be a good person, but I’ve learned that I’m in it for the fight. If they stop the fight, then I stop. But not until…

30 10 2008
Regi

and good heavens that should be too many. I swear Tuesday can’t come soon enough.

30 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod

@Eyes Wide Open– “What to do about Trolls” is the 2nd Item Dealt with in the “FAQ” Button at the top of the page.
We general don’t engage with them. Pretending they are invisible until AKM tosses them into the mudflats works very well for us. We have a pact, actually, not to feed them at all…not even a crumb. But do check out what AKM has to say.
hHh

30 10 2008
WV Democrat

Demonstrators Gather in Front of Steubenville Obama Headquarters Protesting Obama’s Abortion Stance

http://www.wtrf.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=46251

McCain to be there tomorrow at noon.

30 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Another thought struck me about the APF disbursement and it’s been brewing in my feeble brain for awhile.

I took a peek at what the Permanent Fund is actually invested in…it’s just an accountant thing, I guess…and I found most of it to be invested in foreign, oil related stocks. Can’t remember them all, but Venezuela and Middle East Oil producers stick in my mind.

It struck a somewhat musical chord because they were (in part) some of the stocks that the Palin’s also own personally–according to their financial disclosure form.

So, isn’t it a little un-American to invest so much in foreign stocks?

I’m just sayin’…

30 10 2008
Lulu

@Lynn, I don’t know if this would help with your relatives but I love it, and it makes me cry whenever I watch it. This is Donna Brazille at a New Yorker event about a month ago talking about Obama, and this election:

30 10 2008
Sue

@Oregon Steve—I am 99% certain that when an employer changes health plans, the new plan MAY NOT exclude people with pre-existing conditions. I know that my employer of 32 years often changed plans, and no one was ever excluded for conditions they already had under the old plan. I don’t know the details of your mom’s and sister’s situation, but I would urge you (or them) to make some calls to your local social services agency or to the federal government to see if what their company is doing is legal. The new company may TRY to do this, hoping that no one will notice it is illegal, but if you defend yourself with the law, they won’t get away with it. God bless you!

Sue in Grants Pass

30 10 2008
Sue

@ Oregon Steve @Oregon Steve—I am 99% certain that when an employer changes health plans, the new plan MAY NOT exclude people with pre-existing conditions. I know that my employer of 32 years often changed plans, and no one was ever excluded for conditions they already had under the old plan. I don’t know the details of your mom’s and sister’s situation, but I would urge you (or them) to make some calls to your local social services agency or to the federal government to see if what their company is doing is legal. The new company may TRY to do this, hoping that no one will notice it is illegal, but if you defend yourself with the law, they won’t get away with it. God bless you!

Sue in Grants Pass

30 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

“I’m getting scared too, just got a call awhile ago to volunteer at the phone bank here in PA. The guy told me their worried, said the in polling don’t look as good as it should. I thought he was up about 12 points here. I guess it’s the ” T” part of Pa. that their worried about.”
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Don’t worry too much about pennsyltucky’s T. That’s the part I live in. And it’s the part that went heavily towards Rick Santorum in 2006 – an election LOST by Santorum because the non-T areas of pennsylvania leaned heavily towards Bob Casey.

If we can dumprick in 06, we can help the entire state go blue in 08.

Personally, I am not all that worried. There are 30% more people who will vote for Obama from my area than there are on the Obama list of likely democratic voters. It’s all good. So good that I may go buy some more Hershey milk chocolate bars and help our local farmers who raise the cows that give the milk for those wonderful candy bars.

Obamaaaa… the great American president.

30 10 2008
Sue

oops Sorry for the duplicate post…I am technologically challenged. : (

30 10 2008
Lulu

@Lynn, one more thing for your relatives…

Please tell them that not only did Rev. Wright serve our country, as SMR stated, but he also was selected to serve one of our president’s directly – LBJ. There are pictures to prove it, too. He’s with LBJ in surgery–an amazing duty that any American would have been proud to be assigned.

30 10 2008
antiAnti

Obama in Columbia, MO live on CNN.com

30 10 2008
Mayflower

@ asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (18:22:18) :
I would feel the teensiest bit sorry for Palin if she didn’t have such unjustified confidence in herself. She is phenomenally in over her head, and she doesn’t even know it.

Then I think of her as VP, and any trace of pity/sympathy disappears.

@ Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon (18:26:23) :
We DON’T back down until she does – never let your guard down until her ambition is tamped out or she finds remorse. I can forgive, and be a good person, but I’ve learned that I’m in it for the fight. If they stop the fight, then I stop. But not until…

——–
Ditto to both of you ladies! That is the scary thing about Narcissistic Disorder…. no empathy, no remorse, etc. Their overinflated egos won’t allow them to accept negatives…

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

ynn hussein hussein (MA) (17:58:16) :
Camie (17:18:44) :

A critical factor in this is that Rev. Wright and Socialism are stated reasons. They are also code words for Black – when Nixon started the “Southern strategy” it was a deliberate play on racism that used the image of the welfare Cadillac and the wild-eyed black militant as its icons. It’s the same today.
However, we don’t have to be stuck with it after the election – look at the impact of Nelson Mandela on South Africa. That country has done a lot to resolve its racial because he and Rev. Tutu were willing to take a quiet approach to dealing with people who overtly hated them.

You can be sure that the Obama campaign has examined all of the attack ad angles and is prepared to dissipate their impact without getting emotional. It’s nerve wracking to wait, but the threat from a negative campaign is far less than that from outside enemies. If you are confident that he can handle those unexpected threats, you should be confident that he can handle ones that he has anticipated for some time.

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

I drink Mooseberry Kool-Aid.

30 10 2008
Mayflower

*sigh* it’s been a long day…. But have once again been so thankful for the company of all you Mudflatters. Good night all & keep on keeping strong!

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

Just discussed on Huffington Post:

According to a NYT/CBS poll, 59% say Palin is unqualified to be VP, up 9 points from Oct.1; 1/3 say the VP candidate is a major influence on their presidential choice.

One can only hope…

30 10 2008
Oklad

Great insight…:)
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30 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Chapter X: How to Make Tina Fey Look Really Smart and Pretty.

Chapter IX: How to Lie Like a Rug.

30 10 2008
trig

Palin is doing the same thing that Chavez does in Venezuela with oil money.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (18:05:55) :

I think I am emotionally flatlining right now. My brain (and heart) can’t take it much longer.
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asian just remember “You are stronger than you seem, smarter than you think, and braver than you believe.”—Christopher Robin to Pooh Bear🙂

30 10 2008
lynn hussein hussein (MA)

eajphd Molten Contra Palin , thank you so much for reminding me that:

You can be sure that the Obama campaign has examined all of the attack ad angles and is prepared to dissipate their impact without getting emotional. It’s nerve wracking to wait, but the threat from a negative campaign is far less than that from outside enemies. If you are confident that he can handle those unexpected threats, you should be confident that he can handle ones that he has anticipated for some time.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT! And your reminder is greatly appreciated. Now for those who watched Rachel Maddow and reported that she was worried, I want to remind you that “worried” is Rachel’s face in repose.

I live in western Mass, as do RM and her partner, Susan Mikula, who’s an artist. Rachel Maddow used to host a fabulous morning show called The Big Breakfast on the local radio station, WRSI, before she was whisked away to Air America. When I first saw RM on MSNBC, I was surprised to see that worried, thoughtful look on her face so often. And then I was filled (as always) with admiration, for the brilliant anti-sexism of just letting her face relax in studious repose. No smiley sunny face for our girl.

Rachel is a wonderful example of how women can play by their/our own rules. No need to preen like Palin, or act coy like Katie. And forget that (h)asinine Hasselbeck. Rachel’s not worried. She’s thoughtful and she lets it show.

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

This is too good, must share:

From the blog “Immoral Minority:

Thursday, October 30, 2008
Sarah Palin finds that “drill baby, drill” line will not work on everybody. Workers in a solar power plant for instance? Not so much.
Palin spoke after touring Xunlight Corp., one of a handful of solar technology startup companies in Toledo, a struggling industrial city in this swing state. The city’s leaders are hoping that the solar companies will create jobs to replace some of those lost by downsizing in the auto industry.

But Palin made only a passing reference to solar power in her speech and instead renewed her call for more drilling in U.S. coastal waters. She repeated her signature anthem, “drill, baby, drill,” which seemed to fall a bit flat on the audience at the plant even as it’s become a popular chant at her rallies.

This is the danger of going rogue and not paying attention to the campaign handlers who are there to make sure you don’t say anything stupid. If you don’t listen to them you are guaranteed to say something stupid!

When I heard that the Sarah supporters were demanding that the McCain campaign let her speak for herself , and to “let Sarah, be Sarah”, I was absolutely giddy with excitement.

You see I KNOW who Sarah Palin is. And now the rest of the country can see for themselves that despite $150,000 in new clothes, constant cramming for policy questions, and a high priced make up lady from “Dancing with the Stars”, Palin is just an ignorant hick from Wasilla who is in way over her bouffant hairdo.

She is a mannequin. A prop. A distraction. She was never supposed to do more than provide window dressing, and she may be unqualified to do even that!

And in a little more than five days, we are going to get her back.

And I for one can hardly wait!

30 10 2008
suchanut

Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

How are the plans coming along for MudStock II?

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Lulu (17:56:13) :@Eyes Wide, do you think PA will hold blueness?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sorry to take so long to respond. I have been pumkin carving with my 12y old
daughter.

PA is not going to turn red. We were blue in 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, etc. I expect it to tighten though. After this election I am going to lobby for early voting and optical scanners.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

suchanut (18:53:24) : Thanks for asking… We are all excited here. So much happening. We will be meeting at the Bean at 11:30am on Sunday. We have about 9 area Mudflatters that will be gathering first at the landmark and then we are off to Pizano’s for lunch.

I will have both vid/still camera’s with me, and will send some off to AKM pdq.

30 10 2008
Bea

OK, this has me WORRIED and opening my wallet one more time for Obama. Here’s the text of an email I just received:

I’m the Chief Financial Officer for Barack Obama’s campaign. I track the donations coming in and the expenses going out.

I asked for the opportunity to write to you directly so that I could try to explain what’s happening right now.

This organization has thousands of employees and spends millions of dollars a day — and at the moment we’re doing it without a safety net.

Our spending plans have been stretched by John McCain’s negative attacks and the overwhelming resources of the Republican National Committee.

As of October 15th, John McCain and the RNC together had nearly $20 million more in cash than the combined total of Obama for America and the DNC. And just this week, we’re facing new and unexpected spending against us in Montana and West Virginia.

Your incredible generosity has gotten us this far. But right now we need your help more than ever to get this campaign across the finish line.

Please donate $25 or whatever you can afford right now:

https://donate.barackobama.com/RNCadvantage

My team and I are working to stretch every dollar in order to keep as many paths to victory open as possible. But we need whatever help you can provide for this crucial final stretch.

Thank you,

MM

Marianne Markowitz
Chief Financial Officer
Obama for America

SO, once more into the breach… er… credit card. HOW did McNasty and the RNC end up with a 20 mil advantage???? I heard they were borrowing money, but WOW.

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Ashley Todd just spoke briefly to our local Pittsburgh reporters upon her release from jail. Her wound has already faded away. Probation.

30 10 2008
Bea

OK, this has me WORRIED and opening my wallet one more time for Obama. Here’s an excerpt from an email I just received:

As of October 15th, John McCain and the RNC together had nearly $20 million more in cash than the combined total of Obama for America and the DNC. And just this week, we’re facing new and unexpected spending against us in Montana and West Virginia.

Your incredible generosity has gotten us this far. But right now we need your help more than ever to get this campaign across the finish line.

Please donate $25 or whatever you can afford right now:

https://donate.barackobama.com/RNCadvantage

My team and I are working to stretch every dollar in order to keep as many paths to victory open as possible. But we need whatever help you can provide for this crucial final stretch.

Thank you,

MM

Marianne Markowitz
Chief Financial Officer
Obama for America

SO, once more into the breach… er… credit card. HOW did McNasty and the RNC end up with a 20 mil advantage???? I heard they were borrowing money, but WOW.

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

mrht steve–
I haven’t read every answer and someone else might have written this already, but-as long as your sister had insurance during the last 18 months without more than a 30 day gap in coverage, they HAVE to cover pre-existing conditions. She will need to provide a “proof of credible coverage” from the current insurance company and they will have to provide coverage. If she did not have coverage for 18 months, they can refuse to cover pre-existing for up to one year, BUT…ANY coverage she has or previously had will be subtracted from that year.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

Sue (18:30:00) :

@ Oregon Steve @Oregon Steve
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thanks sue ..i am putting all the posts in a folder……….ya know how every thing can get lost here……….
my sister had to retire in 2000 due to illness……..so this is her retirement benift……..so for us it to soon to know if it is diffrent……..she will have insurance but it is the meds they say they will not cover……shis is working with social workers now to see what they can do………….but you know how it is …….no one really cares it is just a job to them……until it becomes some one in their family…………i was just telling her today………about mudflats…….. you ask a question and you get 20 answers……..thats what i love about this site………..many heads work better then one

30 10 2008
Dianna

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:03:29) :
Ashley Todd just spoke briefly to our local Pittsburgh reporters upon her release from jail. Her wound has already faded away. Probation.

Hope she gets some help.

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

mrht steve–
Oops-it’s a 45 day gap in coverage, not 30. Believe me, I have dealt with this. Insurance companies LOVE to deny coverage, but they can’t fight this-it’s FEDERAL law.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

ira2, you said it. I have had my hopes dashed before (Gore, 2000), and that was when I didn’t care about the candidate, but I couldn’t believe he lost to that yahoo. Then, in 2004, I so wanted Kerry to win, even though I wasn’t crazy about him, either. I had made plans to move to Canada after each of those elections, but I didn’t.

This time, however, so near the end, when I can actually, for the first time, vote for a winner first time in my life (out of the country the first year I was eligible, voted for Nader after ascertaining Clinton had won my second election)….I don’t know what I would do if Obama lost. For the first time, I am voting FOR someone instead of against someone (or a system). I believe that Obama can actually make a difference, and I believe that McCain would simply lead us further down the road to ruins. This time, if I am wrong about my country again, then I really must move.

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon and Mayflower, you are so right. We cannot let up until the election is over, and not even then. We need to do what we can to make sure Palin goes her merry way, perhaps to…somewhere else. Night, Mayflower. Sleep well.

Chief Shikago Hussein, thank you for the wise words. I only hope that I can remember them as this circus winds down.

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Dianna,
What did Ashley have to say?

And when are Fox and Matt Drudge getting their mental health treatment?

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

If you haven’t seen the “Bean” which is where we are kicking off Mudstock II, Sunday… just have a look at the 110 ton sculpture.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@Hershey milk chocolate bars
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mmmmmmmmm……..i need one now

30 10 2008
SMR

Off topic warning ——

Don’t know if any of you fellow mudflatters check out Story People (have been addicted to this art for about 12 years), but I get a daily email with the stories, and this one made me think of Obama and what a courageous step he’s taken in running for POTUS.

http://www.storypeople.com/storypeople/WebStory.do?storyID=3359

30 10 2008
Trini

@eajphd Molten Contra Palin (18:03:28) :

Bristol’s book:

XI: Clothing: you gotta do that campaignin’ thingy. You get the best leathers and the most kickin’ boots!

From Nancy Sinatra: (John) one of these days these boots are gonna… walk …all… over you!. Ready boots? Start walking!!!

@Sauerkraut 18:12:03. I have several show dogs. That’s why I am poor (but that’s another matter). None of them would bother to give the bitch a butt-sniff! They would be above that!

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN,

Do you drink lingonberry koolaid?

30 10 2008
Dianna

Steph,

Didn’t see the coverage… Eyes, anything on that? Doubt she said anything.

As for Fox and Drudge ….. an enema?

30 10 2008
Lee

WV Democrat:
This is the unspoken goal of McCain/Palin to overturn Roe vs Wade. Let this be a warning to Women. You are in for one long street fight for the next four years. It does not matter who wins.

If you do not want this law changed, you had better wake up, and fight for your rights. Makes me madder than mad.

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Bev (17:38:11) :

Rachel Maddow should at least be considered for WH Press Secretary when Obama takes office – she’s funny, she’s uber intelligent, she’s witty, and she can skewer stupidity a mile away

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I was thinking the same thing, when the show aired Rachel interviewing Obama. She would make a great SoS

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

I meant Press Secretary!

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (19:09:15) : What did Ashley have to say?

Got to hear her voice that is about it. She said something to the effect that: “I am sorry that I cannot comment.”

I am hoping that some sort of red koolaid detox antidote can be found

30 10 2008
White Agate

All:

This is my advice for getting through the next few days, per a friend of mine, who was saying the same thing:

Red wine

Chocolate (Halloween!)

Coffee

Yoga or pilates and/or meditation

Sex

Loud music and singing to it

Sport of your choice (mine is running)

Monty Python and/or John Cleese material, like Fawlty Towers

A few select blogs

The WSJ and the NYT

In any order, all of the above, lather, rinse, repeat. These are relatively inexpensive things to do, given the recession we’re in.

I guess I should add volunteering, and voting, and doing whatever it takes to get out the vote.

Also, I got an e-mail today that candy from China, including pirate’s coins, probably contains melamine (the same stuff that poisoned the pet food last spring and the eggs and milk there these past few months) and you shouldn’t eat them. It’s confirmed on Snopes so I feel pretty confident about the information.

AKM and others, that is a great use of your check. Come to think of it, I need to do the same. Michele Bachmann was on the radio today, time to get out the checkbook.

Remember, breathe in and out on a count of eight before getting back to work. I agree we need the catharsis. Think how they must be feeling at Obama HQ and somehow that must help in terms of preventing your head from exploding.

I had a funny e-mail about the redistribution of wealth from blue to red states, I will see if I can find it. Someone observed the last time around that the electoral map is strikingly similar to the divide since the Civil War. A reader sent this to Daily Dish, Andrew Sullivan’s blog, at The Atlantic today, it brought tears to my eyes. Such great writers and thinkers out there, not unlike a certain person from Alaska we know, perhaps?

Quote:

The End of America’s Longest War?

A reader writes:

Earlier this week, in your post “The Top Ten Reasons Conservatives Should Vote For Obama”, you wrote under Point 4: “A truce in the culture war. Obama takes us past the debilitating boomer warfare that has raged since the 1960s. Nothing has distorted our politics so gravely; nothing has made a rational politics more elusive.”

On the one hand I agree with you; on the other hand, you don’t go nearly far enough. An Obama presidency means much more than a truce in the 60’s culture war. It means the end of a much older and more terrible war, in which the 60’s was merely one battle: the American Civil War. That is what is at stake here.

The Civil War was fought from Sumter to Appomattox, from April 12, 1861, to April 9, 1865. But the roots of the war predated 1861, and the consequences lived on long after 1865. In reality the Civil War never ended, it just shifted from a military to a culture war – the same culture war that is still going on today.

What you call the “boomer warfare” of the 1960’s was part of that larger war, marking the struggle to end Jim Crow, the century-long regime of American apartheid (Vietnam was, in my opinion, related but secondary). The end of apartheid was a second humiliating defeat for the forces of the conservative “South” at the hands of the liberal “North”, and it subsequently gave rise to those decades of distorted and irrational politics you so deplore, as the reactionary and fundamentalist forces regrouped and mounted yet another rearguard insurrection against their liberal “oppressors”, culminating in their partial ascension to power under Bush. (And we can only hope it ends there, instead of with Palin and the Christian Nationalists in 2012).

I realize this may sound harsh; I do not think Bush is a racist, for instance (quite the contrary), and I am very aware of the progress made in this country since I was young, including in the South; nevertheless, this election is clearly about race, about who and what we are as a nation, as a people, as a family (I would throw California’s Prop 8 squarely into this battle too).

So let’s be clear – it is not “boomer warfare” which has distorted our politics, or made rational politics so elusive since the 60’s: it is something far deeper, something far older, something which has been with us from the beginning in this country, and which we in turn brought with us from the Old World; something which in fact traces back to the very origin of humanity – spiritually, psychologically, politically, evolutionarily. That depth is what gives the American story its pathos and its importance. That is why the world watches us: to see if we can work it out – to see if there is hope.
And that’s why January 20, 2009, is so important: the day Barack Obama is sworn in as our 44th president will mark the third, and I believe the final defeat of the forces of repression and division in this country, and the actual end of the American Civil War.

How can I be so sure? Because when the American President is inaugurated, it is directly homologous to the crowning of the King in ancient days: the King is the groom, the Nation is the bride, the crowning is the hieros gamos, the sacred marriage. When Barack Obama is sworn in as our 44th president, a symbolic marriage will be enacted, binding us together forever, black and white. We will have chosen to become one. We will have chosen to become family. The War will be over. E pluribus unum.

The whole world will be watching this. You have stated over and over again that an Obama presidency would be “transformational”, even “indispensable”. You’re right. And you’re right that this is only the beginning. A new chapter is dawning.

Will the old guard resist? Of course. But their power is waning. Providence made sure the better man lost in 2000, and the eight years since have been just enough rope for the old, corrupt right to hang itself.

And if we do this, the founding editors of that abolitionist tract, The Atlantic Monthly, will surely be smiling somewhere.

End quote.

My response to that is, ‘May it be.’ Let us move forward at this time. And I think we will. I know we can.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh PA, I would if I could. I love saying lingonberry.

Bev, I got that email, too, and I gotta say…I was a bit taken aback. I mean, they got a record hundred and fifty million in September. There is no way McCain should be up any money on Obama. I might try to give a bit more, but I am pretty tapped out.

Chief Hussein Shikago, um, er, well, that’s….a big bean!

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

So the reason Sen. Stevens is allowed to vote in this election is because someone has determined that he has not been “convicted” until he is sentenced? Apparently if there is a legal challenge, he can cast a provisional ballot only?

Interesting interpretation. Right out of the Alaska Department of Elections. Of which Sean Parnell is the leading character? Would Talis Colberg have contributed to the opinion?

Begich is debating Stevens this evening. Looking forward to the report on this. It’s a great opportunity for Alaskans to get a closer look at Mark Begich. He was on APRN’s Talk of Alaska earlier this week and I was impressed with what I heard.

I think Alaskans will trust Mark Begich with their vote.

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

Thanks for the poll post, CO almost Native. That’s what I was trying to share–but I must have used too many words along with the link to the full story. You edited perfectly.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

thanks steph………every thing is going into a folder for printing……..

30 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod

Oh my. Helen’s outdone herself today. Don’t miss it if you’re wanting to know how to talk to “undecideds” (or if you’re wondering wtf’s up with “undecideds”—who ARE these people anyway???). God Bless her! Man. If I can be half as with it as Helen when I’m 82…

http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/

30 10 2008
SMR

I had an encounter today that left me shaking with rage. I was so furious. Finally I have calmed down and taken action, here’s my letter submitted to Blockbuster via their “Contact Us” link. Filing under my mental “not getting mad, getting even” file:

I would like you to know that I overheard one of your employees from the local Blockbuster bragging about an incident with a customer.

According to this employee, he was wearing a NOBAMA pin at work, and a customer told him that was unacceptable, that he found it offensive, and it was unprofessional to wear it to work. This employee quite happily told him that he had been given the pin by his supervisor! This employee went on to say that the customer said that he would no longer be a patron of that branch. This employee, in his discussion, scoffed at the notion that this person would go elsewhere, given that Eagle River has no other options (nearly true, as we do not have any large video stores here other than Blockbuster), completely ignoring his egregious conduct in wearing this pin to work and further being rude to this customer.

The nature of this employee’s conduct ensures that neither I, nor anyone else in my family, will be patrons of this branch in the future.

30 10 2008
White Agate

Here’s the ‘Blue States’ e-mail from a friend in California, surprise! I have to add that I used to live in Georgia and I know about ‘little blue dots’ all over the SE and the country, because I was one.

Good night, all! Hang in there, the numbers look good, and I mean the Pollster/538 ones, not the bizarre Fox News numbers.

To: Everyone

From: The Blue States

We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren’t aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty.

You get Dollywood. We get Intel, Mac, and Microsoft.

You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get ‘Ole Miss.

We get 85 percent of America ‘s venture capital and entrepreneurs.

You get Alabama.

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families.

You get a bunch of single hockey moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we’re going to want all of our citizens back from Iraq at once.

If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home.

We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.

With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of America ‘s quality wines, 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high-tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal, Yale, Harvard, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws.

44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.

Finally, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have hat dirt weed they grow in Mexico.

Peace out,

Blue States

30 10 2008
Lulu

@White Agate quoted: “How can I be so sure? Because when the American President is inaugurated, it is directly homologous to the crowning of the King in ancient days: the King is the groom, the Nation is the bride, the crowning is the hieros gamos, the sacred marriage. When Barack Obama is sworn in as our 44th president, a symbolic marriage will be enacted, binding us together forever, black and white. We will have chosen to become one. We will have chosen to become family. The War will be over. E pluribus unum.”

Love this but one other thought….
aghhhhhh. Have we all had a hieros gamos with Bush for 8 years? No wonder we’ve all been so upset……

30 10 2008
CO Almost Native

Yahoo!
Rachel Maddow just interviewed CO Governor Ritter about voting on our great state; more than 1/3 of registered voters have already voted. Way to go Coloradans! He also discussed the judicial agreement on purged voters- they are reinstated, and can vote on a regular ballot, if they clear up confusion on their ID- they don’t have to have a box checked if they use SSN as ID. Gov was very tactful, and didn’t blame the Repugs for trying to supress voting.

Go Blue, Colorado-

30 10 2008
Karen

Anyone see Bill Crystal on Jon Stewart? As much as I despise Crystal, I always enjoy his appearances on the Daily Show. Jon completely destroys him every time and makes him look like the true idiot that he is.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

SMR, please tell me you’re kidding me. Oh, I know you’re not, but still. That is simply outrageous. Yet another reason not to go to Blockbuster.

Ok, another duck-and-cover comment from me: I wish Rachel wouldn’t be quite so nervous about the election and that she would stop turning statements into questions. I still wantadore her, but it’s a bit of a roller-coaster watching her freak out over the polls.

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

White Agate (19:19:42) :

“May it be. Let us move forward at this time. And I think we will. I know we can.”

YES!!! May it be!!!

You have the coolest sort of normal name in here – it reminds me of Humboldt County, CA where I was born. As a kid, an agate was a treasure to find and cherish for the absolute mystery of the little stone.

30 10 2008
Lulu

@Karen, Bill Kristol is an idiot. Palin was his Viagra and it’s due to Kristol and Fred Barnes (who called her a honey) that she’s even on the ticket.

I’ve been following Andrew Sullivan’s take on Kristol. I think the word on the conservative street is that Kristol’s lost all cred. Even on his own side.

30 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Mayflower (18:36:49) :

@ asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (18:22:18) :
I would feel the teensiest bit sorry for Palin if she didn’t have such unjustified confidence in herself. She is phenomenally in over her head, and she doesn’t even know it.

Then I think of her as VP, and any trace of pity/sympathy disappears.

@ Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon (18:26:23) :
We DON’T back down until she does – never let your guard down until her ambition is tamped out or she finds remorse. I can forgive, and be a good person, but I’ve learned that I’m in it for the fight. If they stop the fight, then I stop. But not until…

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Ditto to both of you ladies! That is the scary thing about Narcissistic Disorder…. no empathy, no remorse, etc. Their overinflated egos won’t allow them to accept negatives…
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As far as I am concerned, the three of you get the award for tonight to get us all to buck up.

As a guy, I salute you three women here on the Mudflats to keep us strong.

From my side of the gene pool this is what has kept me focused for Tuesday, November 4th, 2008 in memory of my Father’s generation.

In just five days we will all go together in the boats to take our country back.

Everyone stay strong.

30 10 2008
Willie

I also volunteered at the rally in Sarasota this morning – my job was working the lines outside to sign up volunteers for the weekend thru election day.
Fantastic experience!
I see on the internet there is a woman claiming to be Obama’s aunt living in poverty. The McCain camp gets worse every day!

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

mhrt oregon”steve” (19:05:56) :
Ten years ago my wife was totally disabled at age 35. For many years I carried her on my insurance, that worked until our company was downsized. The greatest thing that happened since was the Commie socialist Medicare, they provide pretty good coverage. Unfortunately (at this moment out of pocket) her medication cost over $25,000. a year. Add to that, I have been home taking care of her since January 24/7, and have just gotten our situation reasonably under control, so that I may return to work. Everything we had worked for in our careers is almost gone.
I would recommend doing whatever is needed to get her qualified for Medicare. If you need help I can give you some tips.

Lastly, my wifes family never gives a damn about this girl. Her brother came over to help her for 3 hours in April. They all live in the Chicagoland area no more than 30 minutes away. Good catholic righties that love denial. mhrt oregon”steve” never stop caring for your sister, never.

Ennealogic (17:55:18) :
Tell me how to make a man more honest or more ethical or more resolved to stand up against corruption!
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We do exist.

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

This is wonderful! Video the vote!

http://colorofchange.org/yourvote/?id=1759-202929

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Oh, well, as long as he’s sorry. Read the quote by Schwarzman near the bottom:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/stephen-schwarzman-and-br_n_139384.html

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

WV Democrat (18:27:23) :

Demonstrators Gather in Front of Steubenville Obama Headquarters Protesting Obama’s Abortion Stance

http://www.wtrf.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=46251

McCain to be there tomorrow at noon.
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I wish I could go to a McCain rally (I hear they are quite intimate these days); I would hold up a big sign that said

EDUARDO
AROCENA

I’m betting that would rattle his Depends.

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

SMR-Blockbuster sucks anyway. Netflix is soon going to take over the DVD rental world.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

SMR (19:27:54) :
I would be po’d too.

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (19:20:47) :

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh PA, I would if I could. I love saying lingonberry.

Bev, I got that email, too, and I gotta say…I was a bit taken aback. I mean, they got a record hundred and fifty million in September. There is no way McCain should be up any money on Obama. I might try to give a bit more, but I am pretty tapped out.

Chief Hussein Shikago, um, er, well, that’s….a big bean!

I’m am getting ready to donate $25.00. It will be the last time for now, I donate to a Presidential Campaign. And I’ve never donated for a presidential campaign before, only charity! So MyBO had better WIN!!!

I am going to be in nervous knots, come Tuesday!

30 10 2008
LibertyLover

The basic question is “How can you vote against someone who hands you cash?” It’s really very startling.

Indeed. I’m sure all of our Senators and Congress-people (and even our President) wrestle with that very same question when lobbyists shower them with campaign contributions. I wish it weren’t so. But money buys influence.

I wish more people were like the politician who said:
“If you can’t take their money, drink their liquor, f**k their women, and then come in here the next day and vote against them, you don’t belong here.”~California politician Jesse Marvin Unruh, referring to lobbyists

That’s why we need public financing of political campaigns. ASAP.

30 10 2008
BLUE OREGON

OBAMA AHEAD IN ALASKA IN STUDENT ELECTION

Obama is swamping McCain in student election = Smart Kids!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27464977/

Students have called the winners before; McCain leads in only 7 states and Alaska’s not one of them!

Alaska: Obama, 50.9

Because of high interest among schools, and some problems with computers crashing (sound familiar?), votes will continue to be accepted through Nov. 4.

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (19:37:11) :

“Blockbuster sucks anyway. Netflix is soon going to take over the DVD rental world.”

You could be talking conservatives & liberals here – cracks me up!! OMG, it’s SO time for this all to be over. Will we ever be normal again? How can I go back to having only three names? I’m changed forever.

30 10 2008
Lulu

Obama will be taking his daughters trick or treating tomorrow –

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/30/225051/93/330/647509

30 10 2008
Pacificnwgal

CO Almost Native (17:00:25) : re: Obama vs. McCain’s Healthcare plans

As a people, we cannot move forward in this country without healthcare that is flexible. covers pre-existing conditions, and is fair and affordable. Yes, I believe it is a right in a country as great and wealthy as ours. To do otherwise it greedy and obsence. Only animals live by survival of the fittest. Nice job explaining the differences.

I don’t really care if it is socialism or not. It is right. Because the McCain/Palin campaign had spent their time confusing the American public with half-truths, lies, and misinformation, people are so confused that they do not know who to vote for or who to believe. The GOP is counting on the stupidity of an uninformed American public. This is what needs to be shouted from the roofs tops! Maybe this will make people angry enough to vote for Obama… real change.

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Just gave my $25.00….IT FELT GOOD!!!

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Let’sGetReal for “That One” (19:36:23) :

This is wonderful! Video the vote!

http://colorofchange.org/yourvote/?id=1759-202929
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Cool… Glad I voted Monday! Got my wife to the library today so she could vote for Barack.

30 10 2008
White Agate

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon:

Thanks, I love ’em too, hence the name. Just came to me when I found this blog.

Night, all. Thanks for being there. And no, Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon, we have all changed, I think. I know I have.

30 10 2008
Bea

Let’sGetReal for “That One” (19:45:30) :

Just gave my $25.00….IT FELT GOOD!!!
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I’ve donated more than I can really afford, but I look at it as an INVESTMENT in our country’s future. I can pay the credit card off over time, but NOW is the ONLY time we have to elect Barack Obama!

30 10 2008
SMR

I agree, Blockbuster sucks, haven’t been there in months — they’ll find that out when they look up my member number! I don’t use Netflix because I hardly get a chance to watch movies (prefer reading!), and would be perfectly happy to watch both seasons of Deadwood and The Lord of the Rings trilogy over & over & over for about the next 10 years……….

I didn’t even go into the other vile sh!t that kid was spewing. Talking smack about Obama thinking he’s Jesus and other such crap, bragging about going to the “Welcome Home Ted” thing yesterday… This is a kid likely less than 25 years old! Maybe not even 20! Where does he get this hateful stuff from? Friends & family? It’s not like he’s out there educating himself about issues, all of the crap he was talking was pure M/P talking points!

This was at the local used book shop here, he was talking to the lady who has been working there forever. She was agreeing with everything he said. I put my books on the counter, he continued to go on & on, then he got to denigrating Dems. That’s when I piped up and said “Yeah, my husband & I used to be Republicans, but we decided not to vote for McCain when he added Palin to his ticket.” Then the little wanker says “Really? I think she’s done a great job.” And I said “Only because you don’t know how bad she’s really done. We both work for oil companies, so we know the real truth about her pipeline and taxes, she might like to talk them up, but that pipeline will never be built, and as long as oil is under $80/bbl Alaska is worse off under her plan than it was before she decided to ‘stand up to big oil.'” Then I left.

That’s another store I won’t go to again, and I will tell everyone I know how ignorant their employee is. I cannot believe they would stand around talking that smack, I guess assuming since I’m an Alaskan in Eagle River that I am a Republican without a brain.

God, I was sooooooooo angry.

30 10 2008
cmac

Stressed out mudpuppies?

Click here. I guarantee you will feel a lot better, I got a little tear in my eye.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/babies-and-bigger-kids-fo_n_139183.html

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

@ Let’sGetReal for “That One” … Right on, feels good, oh yea…

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin, thanks for the ultimate compliment of comparing me to Xena. She is one of my role models. The Mudflats is one way I stay strong.

Willie, I am so jealous. I have missed my chances to see Obama, and I doubt anyone will be coming to MN any time soon. So why the hell am I getting robo-calls?

Chief Hussein Shikago, that is really, really tough. I hope this is not out of line, but I looked you up on the internet, and I was very moved by your story. I admire how strong you are.

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Bea (19:48:00) :

I’ve donated more than I can really afford, but I look at it as an INVESTMENT in our country’s future. I can pay the credit card off over time, but NOW is the ONLY time we have to elect Barack Obama!
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Amen!

30 10 2008
30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (19:52:02) :

Willie, I am so jealous. I have missed my chances to see Obama, and I doubt anyone will be coming to MN any time soon. So why the hell am I getting robo-calls?
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You got a robo call? What did it say? Did you hang up?

30 10 2008
testerm

Here’s another heads-up for all who haven’t voted yet. Spread the word!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/When-Bad-Things-Happen-to-by-Joan-Brunwasser-081030-762.html

30 10 2008
Lulu

@SMR, that sounds terrible. What you did took a lot of guts.

Soon, if it’s any comfort, all of those movie rental stores will be gone, as we will all get our rental movies online….at least, that’s what everyone in the entertainment industry is prepping for!

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (19:32:56) :
On Rachel, she did look worried, but in my opinion I believe she was wwwaaayyy nervous, like ubber apprehensive, or lets say scared sh#tless. Tonight was no doubt her biggest show to date, with Barack on and everything. I am sorry she wasn’t her usual laid back self, at the same time, I don’t blame her at all. She’ll be kicking herself plenty when she watches the tape. I wouldn’t be surprised if she says something about it Friday night.

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

America used to have non-socialized firemen. If your house was on fire and you didn’t have the money to pay the “fire tax”, well, the fire truck would come out only to make sure that the houses who DID pay the tax didn’t start on fire.

What if we couldn’t use police unless we could pay for them? Or only send your child to a private school? Or only drive on roads if you could pay a toll for each and every one of them…even from your house to the store?

We already HAVE socialized sections in our country. Medicine is no different. Everyone could see a doctor, and the government would help fund it. I don’t understand why “Christians” are so concerned about helping the poor…I just wrote a blog entry that grazes the surface of the Bible…it has MANY more verses about helping the poor than it does about sexuality and abortion combined. I guess they tear out those pages and burn them.

30 10 2008
Windy City, AKA Alien Ears not Palin

I volunteered making gotv calls. So moving. One young man with children talked about how Obama inspires him to do more in life.

Glad to see people talking about the ‘wealth spreading’ that happens in AK and supported by SP, I have been wondering why this is not obvious. We have come to 2 + 2 = 5 a la George Orwell.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin, heh. I was going to say that, too, but I didn’t want to seem elitist. I love Netflix.

Yes, Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon! You hit the nail on the head. Blockbusters is the Republican Party! We are Netflix!

SMR, good for you. It’s hard to stand up for what you believe in when there’s no one else around to back you up, but you did it. Regardless of the kid’s politics, I can’t believe he was mouthing off like that.

He should read this:

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/articles/2008/10/28/news/local_news/doc49068f6ccce49245010961.txt

McCain don’t want ‘im if he’s that young. One bloggist titled it, “Hey kids, get off my lawn!”

Night, White Agate.

Ok, y’all convinced me. I will give a bit more to Obama.

30 10 2008
Northern Exposure

Time out for me. Other Alaskans?

APRN is featuring Don Young and Berkowitz right now at 8PM.

And then Stevens and Begich at 9PM.

Going to cozy up by the wood stove and enjoy!

30 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

nite all

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@SMR
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can you guys get nexflx ……No that is not the way you spell it…..the by mail video company……..i have not used it……..but it is the only one my daughter and son have been renting movies from for years……..it was started by a man that got pissed off about his late chages at………………blockbuster………you sign up keep the video as long as you like and they will send another one when they get the last one back…………

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

SMR (19:49:11) :
Here is a way to help feel better.
1.) Grab a Netflix logo online, burn to disc.
2.) Go have it exploded into 2 -3 foot X 3 foot posters at Officemax.
3.) Back it with spraymount to foam boards.
4.) Tie little ropes through the tops of each poster.
5.) Walk around infront of Blockbusters in your spare time.
6.) Have a drink and a smoke, enjoy, sweet justice.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Night Eyes…

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Let’sGetReal for “That One”, it went something like this (on my machine):

HiI’mcallingfortheJohnMcCaincampaign blah blah blah shouldknow blah blah blah DemocratsandObama blah blah blah terrorists blah blah blah DemocratsandObama blah blah blah street gangs DemocratsandObama blah blah blah crime.

I’ve also gotten way more hang-up calls than I normally do (I never answer my phone unless I intuit who it is and that I want to talk to the person), and one day, I got calls every fifteen minutes for an hour and a half. Plus, I’ve gotten all the flyers which just end up in my recycling bin after I glance at them.

I am a die-hard Democrat. I don’t know why they are wasting their time.

Harumph. As soon as I go to the bank tomorrow to deposit a few checks, I’m sending Obama a little something something in return for the GOP hounding me.

Chief Hussein Shikago, I know she was nervous about meeting Obama, but she’s been freaking out the last week or so. Since I am in the same mind-frame, it isn’t helping me!

30 10 2008
Karen

Oops, that should have been Bill Kristol not Crystal, although, Bill(y) Crystal would make a much better columnist than BK.

30 10 2008
SMR

Nah, I’m kind of a biyatch sometimes, so it was only hard not to tell the kid off completely & rip him a new one. I can’t stand stupid people, but he’s a kid, so I cut him some slack — he still has time to learn, and if he stays one of the stupid Alaskan republicans (his folks are probably that way) then fine, I’m leaving this state anyway, and I hope never to return! This election cycle has been my Alaska swan song — so many new wonderful people bonding together for Obama and against Bible Spice & her Truth Squad, but we are waaaaaay outnumbered, and so I will leave with no regrets in May. My husband kids me that I will have the car packed up, so that we can drive off to Calgary as soon as our daughter crosses the stage after getting her diploma…

@Chief — you are obviously one of the great ones, too few of you out there.

30 10 2008
rf11 in FL

Lulu (19:33:06) :

@Karen, Bill Kristol is an idiot. Palin was his Viagra and it’s due to Kristol and Fred Barnes (who called her a honey) that she’s even on the ticket.

I’ve been following Andrew Sullivan’s take on Kristol. I think the word on the conservative street is that Kristol’s lost all cred. Even on his own side.

________________________________________________________________

Lulu, I’ve been following this story, too. It all started with Kristol’s and Barnes’ little trip to Alaska in June 2007. They were both smitten by Palin, and the rest is history. Kristol was on Jon Daily tonight. UGH! He said, essentially, what the heck, it’s only an election!

I loved the way Jon Daily framed it – McCain and Palin are running against some vision of what they think will happen to America if Obama is elected; Obama is running against what Bush has already done to America. (profanity omitted).

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Sorry, folks. I haven’t been getting enough sleep, and it’s seriously impacting my ability to unbold. Eek!

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN
Wow! No it’s no problem, were you able to do that looking up thingy when someone… accidentally posted my true identity the other day until I had her/him change it? I’m embarrassed for sure. -Blushing-

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (20:07:51) :

Chief Hussein Shikago, I know she was nervous about meeting Obama, but she’s been freaking out the last week or so. Since I am in the same mind-frame, it isn’t helping me!
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She is scaring me as well. Especially when she said she doesn’t think Obama has Florida sewed up.

I am so ready for this to be over. I am suppose to be a poll greeter election day…but I don’t know if I will be able to do it. I am sooooooooo nervous!!!

30 10 2008
Kelly M

Hey now, not every human being got a socialist rebate check, I got back to the great state after a misbegotten tour in Washington state one month too late to qualify. …but then I don’t have to declare the unearned income on my not so socialist 1040 form.

30 10 2008
BS

I’m getting here late. I’m getting to the point that I can’t read every comment. Remember in the old days when you read every comment? Two months ago. WOW! But I must comment now – maybe it has already been said. SP will not be my pimp. I am going to use my $1200 for a good cause. Hell – I’ll quadruple it! I can afford it. Like that weirdo Michelle Bachman who spouted off her crap and everybody donated to Tinklenburg(?) Thankyou Minnesota! This crap has got to end. So – I’m thinking I will donate $4800 to a worthy cause. The first thing that comes to mind is Planned Parenthood . I will have to give this some thought but that is my first thought.

30 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago (20:12:40) :
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Someone gave your true identity here? Wow!

30 10 2008
SMR

@mhrt Steve — I could get Netflix, but would never use it! We’ve got hundreds of DVDs, and I’ve watched Deadwood & Lord of the Rings (all of them the extended versions) over & over & over. I know I love those and can’t stand the thought of watching a movie and being disappointed. Two hours of my life gone on a crap movie! No way! I leave that to my teen & husband!

30 10 2008
suchanut

How are innaugural balls and such funded? Does the campaign have to support that? Did Barack ever say if he would help Hillary with her outstanding campaign amount?

I’m just wondering if there are some other reasons they are asking for one last infusion of cash.

??

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Lulu, thanks for the sweet link about Obama taking his daughters trick o’ treating. I needed it.

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin, yup. You are on fire today.

As for Bill Kristol, he is a serious affront to the NYT. I don’t mind that they have conservative voices; I just mind when those voices are completely moronic and possibly deceitful (re: pushing for Palin to be VP).

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN
Let’sGetReal for “That One”

I see your points. We are all frazzled at this point. And like Rachel, most of us feel the gravity of Tuesday’s decision. I keep hoping that the polls have so underestimated the number of people who only have cells with no land line.

30 10 2008
Road Runner

GUYS AND GALS!!

Jon Stewart hasn’t posted it yet on the daily show. He had Bill Kristol on. He reminded Billy that Palin oh-12 is a Socialist since she gives away oil money. He was pushing Billy to admit. It was great to see him squirm.

30 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

lol @
Karen (20:09:06) :

Oops, that should have been Bill Kristol not Crystal, although, Bill(y) Crystal would make a much better columnist than BK.

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Was thinking I was in the wrong blog for a moment with disliking Billy Crystal He is soooo funny. Sometimes like Howie Mandell – a bit over the top — but I do love his humor

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN
see:
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago (20:12:40) :

I’ve got the Jeopardy music playin here…

30 10 2008
Bea

BS (20:15:02) :
This crap has got to end. So – I’m thinking I will donate $4800 to a worthy cause. The first thing that comes to mind is Planned Parenthood . I will have to give this some thought but that is my first thought.

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First, I want to commend you for your generousity. Second, dare I suggest you make that donation in honor of Sarah Palin?? *wicked grin*

Also, if you have a few dollars to spare, Obama’s people are asking us to donate one more time to help them fight back against a big last-minute influx of RNC cash:

https://donate.barackobama.com/RNCadvantage

30 10 2008
Pacificnwgal

It’s too bad that Palin thought that just throwing cash at people woudl make them love her. It is just like the principal in Washington DC who is paying students to succeed. This may work temporarily for the poverty class. But not for long.

Rachel Maddow’s interivew with BO is great. Everything about BO’s conversation is intelligent, transparent, serious (not Smug like McCain, or incomprehensible like Palin), yet friendly. Some people have said to me “That Obama, he is really smooth.” Like is something to be suspicious about. What we haven’t talked about with the Joe-six-pack crowd is that many of them do not trust people with educations. They don’t trust authority like teachers, doctors, educated people. Yet, they will trust politicians who lie to their faces. God, I can’t wait until Tuesday. Let’s pray that Obama makes an easy, seemless win without controversy over votes.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Ok. I am giving up on bold for tonight. I heartily apologize.

@Let’sGetReal for “That One”, you can do it! You can greet the polls! Oh, that wasn’t what you meant, was it?

I wore my “Asian Americans for Obama” button today on my coat, one “Obama/Biden” button (with both their lovely, smiling faces) on my purse, and one of the same on my laptop bag. First time I’ve ever proclaimed love for a candidate! I love me some Obama/Biden.

@Chief Hussein Shikago, no, I just intuited your last name. Heh. No, it was when your name was accidentally posted on the blog. I looked up your story, and I was amazed at how you soldiered on and are still soldiering on (but you need to update it!). You are, indeed, one of the good ones.

30 10 2008
suchanut

Presdential Elections for $500, Alex.

30 10 2008
SMR

Here’s another StoryPeople story for my fellow mudflatters doing all we can to get Obama elected, fighting the good fight and hoping…….

http://www.storypeople.com/storypeople/WebStory.do?action=Show&storyID=1138

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

Lulu (19:29:43) :

@White Agate quoted
—————————–i am sure we are getting closer………..my g-daughter’s …she is five…. best friends-one is india………..best friend………the other……adopted from columbia……….on the play ground ………they all have the biggest…….brightest………smiles…..how can you not love them……how ever in arkansas we will have to wait ……..i am sorry to say this…..to die off……….and i hope that they have not poisoned their children……..i do have hope though……..at least my family in arkansas is not voting this year and that is progress……it is alot of less votes for you know who

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Let’sGetReal for “That One” (20:15:08) :
It was an innocent mistake. But let me tell ya I was surprised! yournamehere@wherever… It’s like oh let’s google this yahoo. It came down pdq. It really was fun and ended up to be quite harmless. No whack jobs want to come into Chicago to get me so I feel safe.

30 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

I did my “final” Obama donation — now its time for my AKM Mudflats contribution too — every time I donate to O — I pass a bit to AKM too,

Without this site – I’d be out of a job (and in a padded cell) course I spend soooo much time here, bosses may wonder about my work.

All the opinions, links, and comments are well appreciated and I thank AKM for giving us this wonderful place to “hang out”. Wish I was closer to a few others (distance wise) to participate in the “events”. But seeing the pics & excitement has been fantastic.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@BS, you go, boy/girl! Woo-hoo! I like your style. I agree with Bea that you should donate in the honor of Palin. That would be too funny.

@Road Runner, argh! I hate Bill Kristol (who I always think of as Billy Crystal. To make matters worse, Bill Kristol looks like my favorite ref, Ed Hochuli, which is disconcerting, to say the least), but I love Jon Stewart. Oh, the agony.

@Chief Hussein Shikago, wow, you are more impatient than I am. Heh. I answered. I am glad the person removed your real name. There was one of you in MN, was that you, too?

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

hi there mudpups..

I know.. I’m sick and should be in bed.. oh well..

Anyone catch the comical fauxpas Barbie did today when she was extolling visiting the great state of PA, home of the world series philles..!

Except she was in diehard Pirates territory and was booed pretty loud..

That was funny.. As Rachel put it, mistaking the correct logo ends up with this one and there was a giant obama logo on PA..

I enjoy it everytime she screws up.. shows how ignorant she really is.

30 10 2008
Road Runner

I was trying to add some pictures of Obama and family set to music, but it would’n let me. Any ideas?

30 10 2008
Dianna

Lifted from Media Matters:

On the October 29 broadcast of his show, radio host Bill Cunningham stated: “Traditionally, we think of women as Democratic voters because a lot of women who are single are vulnerable; they need like a daddy government to keep an eye on them.”… But you see something different with Sarah Palin.

Great response by blogger Wonderkitty:

Oh, I can assure Cunningham, as a single, Democratic woman, I am VERY interested in keeping the government out of my home…

and off my phone lines,

out of my womb,

out of my relationships,

out of my e-mail…

Posted Thursday October 30, 2008 4:28:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (20:24:41) :

Thanks for the compliment. I know I need to update it as soon as I get off Mudflats. . . No I will. We had the pleasure of meeting Dan Tani, he came over here this summer for a visit. I’ll have to add it, maybe tomorrow if I am not too busy with Mudstock II.

Good night asain

30 10 2008
Road Runner

GUYS AND GALS!!

Palin oh-12 now has an unfavorable rating at 56% compared to 35%. Whooppee!!

30 10 2008
not your pal Palin

I’ll start by saying that I don’t have a huge problem with socialism because I believe that education and healthcare should not be left to the free market.

However, I have to disagree that the oil money strictly represents oil company wealth. I say this because I believe that people outside Alaska need to realize that the oil companies don’t own the oil. Even though they like to call themselves the “Producers,” they don’t really produce anything. They extract a resource that has been produced by geologic processes over the course of millennia. They buy leases to extract the oil, and for their trouble, they are allowed to keep a lot of the profit. I don’t like to refer to the part the state gets as a TAX either. It’s not a tax really. For the oil resource that belongs to the state, the companies extract it and get a hefty share, but the state claims a share as well. We are not really redistributing wealth as much as trying to establish a system in which everyone gets a fair share for their labors and for their proximity to the resource.

The permanent fund has become something of an entitlement program, but I would like to see it invested further to provide not just for the people of today but for the people of tomorrow who may inhabit this region after peak oil. Norway invests a lot more of its fund rather than liquidating huge amounts every year. Even though their fund began after ours, it is worth significantly more, and they provide many services for their citizens.

So I’d like to shift the discussion from redistribution to a sense of what it means to share the resources that none of us can really lay claim to as our sole property. The natural resources should belong to the people at large to some extent because they are the riches of the land. This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land–I’m willing to subscribe to the words of Woody Guthrie, and I hope we can all subscribe to an ethic of fairness.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Enjay in Eastern MT, oooh, thanks for reminding me that I have to buy Mudflats swag. I am glad there are black long-sleeved t-shirts (black is my favorite color).

This is Craig Newmark, founder of craigslist.org, voting for Barack Obama:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-newmark/see-craig-vote-vote-craig_b_139522.html

It’s pretty funny.

Oh, and on DailyKOS.com, he is reporting that Norm Coleman is suing Al Franken for knowing running false advertising or something of the sort. It’s just a ploy, and Coleman is under a suit himself. It’s on the first page of dailykos.com.

Here is Franken’s website if you can send a few dollars his way:

http://www.alfranken.com

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

suchanut (20:25:11) :

Presdential Elections for $500, Alex.
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And now, the wrap up music. Times up.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

suchanut (20:18:44) :

I’m just wondering if there are some other reasons they are asking for one last infusion of cash.
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I’m thinking the campaign has reached the point where it can’t deny how well it’s been doing in some small hardened red states, and given the potential for a loss in a really big state they would like to dedicate some real resources to states like MT and ND, which probably weren’t budgeted for.

30 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

suchanut (20:18:44) :

How are innaugural balls and such funded? Does the campaign have to support that? Did Barack ever say if he would help Hillary with her outstanding campaign amount?

I’m just wondering if there are some other reasons they are asking for one last infusion of cash.
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the balls are payed for primarily by the big cats cause they get extra face time, better accommodations. etc. The number of them and the payment source will up to the Obama folks.

That last solicitation doesn’t feel right to me. I got something from Biden today and everyone else on God’s green earth. I would not donate through that email but go directly to the Obama site. Remember all those scams using Paypal? Just a thought.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird, yeah, that was funny. “Home of the World Series Champs Philadelphia Phillies.” BOOOOOO! She had to pronounce each word very carefully as if she were reading from notes or something.

@Dianna, damn straight. I get so tired of Republicans telling me that Democrats are the one who believe in big government!

@Chief Hussein Shikago, can’t wait for the update, and I loved the story about the astronaut. Night!

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird
I saw that clip of Barbie it was hysterical, that stupid error could cost them PA, that was awesome…
Hope you feel better soon…

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

BS (20:15:02) :

“I am going to use my $1200 for a good cause. Hell – I’ll quadruple it! I can afford it.The first thing that comes to mind is Planned Parenthood”

First and foremost – BRAVO. It’s fun to say that you gave Sarah’s check to a charity or more than one. That check to each (PFD eligible resident who ACTUALLY files for a PFD) of us did nothing to solve rural Alaska’s pressing energy cost issues that we knew were coming this winter. Getting a good pres in the White House will do more for rural AK than Palin ever has!

Second – if you donate to Planned Parenthood, I suggest you designate the entire fund to the Alaska chapter. The University of AK now charges students $50/mo for birth control. 22 months ago, before Palin, it was $5 / mo. A lot of students can no longer afford that much. Maybe Planned Parenthood can help with the students with a lower cost?? So they will use it??

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Obama is seriously spending. !! But I think with all the negative attack ads McLoser and Barbie are running they need to combat them, especially with the Wright ads looming, although i think that’s a dead issue and will just make mcgrumpy look bad..

When the GOP sits down with after the campaign, they may ask him to leave the repugnants for doing such a totally inept and horrid campaign. I can’t think of a more negative, ugly, toothless campaign ever. And Barbie gets to go home to her newly invigorated constituents who now see her for the dope she really is.. The sweet talking won’t help her anymore.

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Obama is seriously spending. !! But I think with all the negative attack ads McLoser and Barbie are running they need to combat them, especially with the Wright ads looming, although i think that’s a dead issue and will just make mcgrumpy look bad..

When the GOP sits down with after the campaign, they may ask him to leave the repugnants for doing such a totally inept and horrid campaign. I can’t think of a more negative, ugly, toothless campaign ever. And Barbie gets to go home to her newly invigorated constituents who now see her for the dope she really is.. The sweet talking won’t help her anymore.

30 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

CNN polling shows
BO 291 (Safe & Leaning)
McC 163 (Safe & Leaning)

Toss up 84

Only five more days — I’ve voted (and hubby) – Have You?

30 10 2008
Lulu

Am I dreaming? I thought AKM had a new post up, and I commented (in this dream, I was even “First” but I didn’t say it). And now the new thread is gone…

30 10 2008
BS

I just have to say this – Yes Prudhoe Bay has been successful -the State tells the oil companies they have to look out for the environment. You can’t even piss on the tundra. But ANWR is federal – you can’t trust em – but maybe with the Democrats in charge you can.

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Lulu, AKM rarely posts anything new at night except for the occaisional open chat..

think you need to stop drinking before bed..!🙂

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Oh, and @Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird, please get better soon. Take care of yourself.

@Lulu, I think you fell asleep at your computer!

30 10 2008
Lulu

The post was about Palin and her gaffe with the solar folks today….saying “Drill, Baby, Drill.” She should have said “Corral sunshine, baby, corral sunshine.”

Marty, I haven’t been drinking but maybe it’s time I go to bed!🙂 ‘Night all.

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Asian as long as im better by tuesday, thats all that matters..:) just a cold.. i’m sure i’ll be able to vote.. only one way im not votin..

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Lulu, unless you’re takin me to bed, you should stick around.. hahahah..

see ya tomorrow..!🙂

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

BS (20:47:16) :
But ANWR is federal…
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ANWR is our’s and it’s off limits forever period. I am so sick of how Bush has raped our federal lands with his bloody permits. It’s sick and has to stop.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

McCain wants to give mining rights in the GRAND BLOODY CANYON for f#cks sake.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago (19:34:19) :

mhrt oregon”steve” (19:05:56) :
Ten years ago my wife was totally disabled at age 35. For many years I carried her on my insurance
_________________________________________
thank you………..first I love my sister with all of my heart…….I write this with tears……….she is able to get medicare in a year…….. when her retiremen plan turns over she will have insurance …at least for a year…….but the meds are not covered…..but we will keep looking into thing………the bad is they have a little bit of money…….but as you said it will be gone soon…….so not what they can get yet………she has Hiv and with out her medicine she will die……..we have been dealing with this for a good long time…….but she has hung on this long……..but with out the medicine keeping the little bugs in check……..this is just one reason we need health care////// no she is not a bad person……..never did drugs…….she just happen to have made a bad choice of a husband that did not tell her the thruth………oh well long story………i will probably fall asleep on the keyboard again………at least it keeps from not thinking about some things……………thanks for your support…….
i read your story also ………sorry……….glad you did a pumpkin with your daughter tonight…………smile

30 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird

Stop picking on W.. .. hahah.. oh never mind.. go for it..

30 10 2008
AK907

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (16:56:16) :
There is a great article in HuffPo about how white privilege means you don’t have to see racism because it doesn’t affect you, so you can declare that racism doesn’t exist. Or, like some white women are claiming, sexism is worse/more prevalent than racism. As a woman of color, I can assure you that both are alive and well.

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Reminds me how so many don’t ‘feel’ the effect of wars; act everyday and all day as if they don’t exist because it’s not affecting them in a direct way. Don’t matter what color you are, what religion you got or what sex you are.

Right now as we sit here reading in our nice cozy environment and writing about sexism, racism and politics; [and STUPID Sara shit especially :)] expressing ‘our pt. of view’……somewhere somebody is experiencing the honest to god effects of the wars in a very real way. Be it our sons, daughters fathers and mothers of every color and religion or our neighbors the real problem with America today is we have wars and they don’t touch every single sole in America.

Maybe if or when war comes to this country (hope that never happens) we will think differently how others view the world. For sure we will think differently about war forever if it ever touches us in that personal kind of way.

30 10 2008
Dianna

Martha,

Second – if you donate to Planned Parenthood, I suggest you designate the entire fund to the Alaska chapter. The University of AK now charges students $50/mo for birth control. 22 months ago, before Palin, it was $5 / mo. A lot of students can no longer afford that much. Maybe Planned Parenthood can help with the students with a lower cost?? So they will use it??

WHOA! $5 to $50. What happened????

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

mhrt oregon”steve” (20:57:26) :
Medicare part D may help with the meds, I’m not sure. Your a good brother, hang in there.

30 10 2008
BS

It seems like a lot of people have been drinking tonight. Me too. I don’t have to work tomorrow (thank you) so what the hell. Don’t know how long I will last but it’s been great talking to ya’ll.

30 10 2008
Bea

Hick Town in W PA (20:41:04) :

That last solicitation doesn’t feel right to me. I got something from Biden today and everyone else on God’s green earth. I would not donate through that email but go directly to the Obama site. Remember all those scams using Paypal? Just a thought.
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Some folks on DU expressed similar concern, so I double checked and the email came through the same server (bluestatedigital.com) as all the other communications from Obama I have received, so it’s a legit request. But, by all means, if people feel more comfortable going through the main website:

http://www.barackobama.com/

All the money ends up in the same place, so however it gets there isn’t important. 🙂

30 10 2008
politicalamazon

Hello Mudflatians! I’ve been in Hawaii for 2 weeks, and I so appreciate being able to check in to see what’s going on.

It’s so strange–being so connected and wound up before I left for Hawaii and now being very unconnected. I’m go glad you are here.

See you on Nov. 4! Keep the fires burning.

30 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA
30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

AK907 (21:00:34) :
I agree.
Number of Americans killed in Iraq to date: 4189
Number of people we went there to kill: 1
I don’t get it.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

I was so impressed a few days ago when this guy came out for Obama – he has certainly paid for it.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_N.htm

We can only hope that this event wakes up a lot of other gun owners.

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

Dianna (21:00:44) :

“WHOA! $5 to $50. What happened????”

Sarah Palin happened. My good friend Karen just left her job at the University as Director of Student Services (she moved up north). She told me that when SP won the gubernatorial campaign, they purchased a double order of supplies because they were afraid that she would target the service. She did.

30 10 2008
Road Runner

GUYS AND GALS!!!

Neil Cavuto blasts McLame’s economic plan, or lack thereof.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/fox-news-cavuto-blasts-mc_n_139237.html

30 10 2008
BS

AK907 – Right on. With everything going on – people have forgotten about the wars. It’s the worst thing – people are dying! It’s more important than the economic meltdown. But because there’s no draft there’s not as many people affected and people think “It doesn’t affect me.”

30 10 2008
Dianna

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon (21:09:44) :
Dianna (21:00:44) :

“WHOA! $5 to $50. What happened????”

Sarah Palin happened. My good friend Karen just left her job at the University as Director of Student Services (she moved up north). She told me that when SP won the gubernatorial campaign, they purchased a double order of supplies because they were afraid that she would target the service. She did.

Hmmm. Is that info out for public consumption?

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Montana for Obama? Yeah, so what?

“Generally, its three electoral votes are overlooked by the presidential candidates. This year, however, Obama decided to go to Montana and meet-and-greet. His two days there gained national attention because he watched his wife at the Democratic National Convention from a living room in Billings. So that might partially explain why Obama is competitive in Montana and other red states, although I think a larger fact is at work.”

http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2008/10/montana-for-oba.html

30 10 2008
Sue

Our Dem. headquarters building here in Grants Pass, Oregon, was picketed today by anti-abortion people. They stayed on the public sidewalk, but their signs were so large (baby-killer, pics of unforn babies, etc.) that the Dem. hdqtr. building could not even be seen. I am not too concerned; I think Oregon will go Obama anyway.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Marty (VA) Hussein McLoser Songbird, I don’t care if you get everyone else sick in the place (especially if they are Republicans), YOU MUST VOTE!

@Lulu, hm. I definitely think it’s time for you to go to bed. Night! Night to you, too, @BS.

@Chief Hussein Shikago, keep that righteous anger burning brightly as long as it doesn’t consume you. Believe me, I know about consuming anger.

@mhrt oregon”steve”, sometimes, you can only be there for the other person. It does sound like you are doing everything you can to help your sister. I am sure she is grateful to have your support.

@AK907, amen to that. It really bothers me that the news is so sanitized when it comes to the war. We should be seeing the pictures night and day of all the people (American soldiers AND Iraqis) who are dying, being maimed, etc. What did W. tell us to do in order to support the troops? Shop. We as a country said we would change, be better people after 9/11. Well, I am still waiting for it. Hopefully, the better country is around the corner.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Hick Town in W PA (21:07:28) :
What’s up with Eugene? Who gave him the koolaid?
he says “But compare the bunny-in-the-headlights Sarah Palin of just a few weeks ago with the much more poised and confident Sarah Palin of today”. REALLY ??? She hasn’t spoken since, so how did he come to such a conclusion.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

A prepared Palin speech, and an unprepared Palin speech😉

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/29/palin-big-oil-love/

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Night asian,

I am going to sign off too.

Good night my fellow muddie pups.
Til then…

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@political amazon, welcome back. Dive into the ‘flats, and you’ll be fired up once again.

@Chief Huessein Shikago, don’t forget the Iraqis. The numbers are hard to get, but they are estimating a hundred thousand. That’s a lot.

@Hick Town in W PA, I love Gene Robinson, but I disagree. She’s still stupid. She still makes no sense. Even if she does run for whatever whenever, there are enough people who have seen through her that it won’t really matter. At least, I hope so.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Chief Hussein Shikago, good night.

The gun people are crazy. Obama supports gun rights (one thing I don’t like about him). They need to actually look at…oh, hell, what am I saying? Let them drink the crazy juice and eat their own.

30 10 2008
Road Runner

Aussie, I never understand their logic. The questions I always ask them: When was the last time a Democrat came for your gun?

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

LULU was right new post and she was first

30 10 2008
Krystal

lynn hussein hussein:

The Transcripts you requested. Sorry if it is a repost:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-wright-transcripts-webmar29,0,5774556.story

Though I don’t agree with everything that Wright believes in (particularly the whole Government infecting AIDS thing), I don’t feel like I have the right to question any one’s love of country or patriotism. He came from a place that this middle-class, blessed white girl from a loving and caring family could never begin to understand. I have worked hard for my achievements, but I don’t begin to pretend myself that I can touch that level of struggle, growing up as a black man in the racially charged civil rights movement. Once the tapes were out, politicians conveniently forgotten that his church was a must visit when they were in Chicago.

You also might want to give them a copy of the Audacity of Hope sermon. I am not religious, but still found it beautiful. Heck, just say that you ran across it, found it moving and you wanted them to read it. Then tell them who the “monster” preacher was:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wrights-sermon-the-audacity-to-hope

Last, but not least, sit them down and make them watch “A more perfect union” on youtube. Our guy says it better than any of us ever could.

30 10 2008
Dianna

AsianH,

I am with you on the gun issue. One of those touchy topics, though.
Sat. I will be out going door to door here in MS, and I asked the man that heads up the Democratic party in my county if he thought I’d get shot. He didn’t think so.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Road Runner (21:23:12) :

You could also argue that no Republican majority has outlawed abortion. Logic is not their strong suit.

I just read there is currently a major Republican radio push aimed at ‘conservative’ (presumably, therefore, “gun-loving”) Democrats, saying Obama will take your guns, blah blah blah.

I had to talk down a unionist Dem voter from MO from “Obama’s going to raise taxes” just a few weeks ago. If they believed the Repub tax lies, who knows what else they would believe?

Ah, me.

30 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (21:20:03) : I love Gene Robinson, but I disagree. She’s still stupid. She still makes no sense. Even if she does run for whatever whenever, there are enough people who have seen through her that it won’t really matter. At least, I hope so.
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I think this is burnt out punditry. There always seems to be a lot of silly predictions around the end of an election. I can’t see Sarah going moderate because of her religious beliefs and because it isn’t in her nature to be conciliatory. I suspect Eugene hasn’t done enough research.

30 10 2008
Krystal

lynn hussein hussein:

One more thing, about the whole socialism thing, just tell them its crap. If they don’t want to vote for our guy, says that fine, but its because they fear socialism is completely unrealistic. Both sides know its stupid, but it fills time. Discuss the progressive tax system which has been around since Teddy Roosevelt (Mccain’s hero) and follow it up with the youtube clip of Mccain defending this system to a townhall questioner in 2000. Tell them that the tax levels are only going up about 3% (Clinton levels) and that they were higher under Reagen.

Tell them that the bitter truth is that we have to get money from somewhere. We can’t tax the middle class more, they don’t have it, so we have to tax the very rich. Also make clear that unless your making over 600,000 dollars a year, you are not going to see more than a couple hundred dollars extra tax return. That bracket is when it gets hefty. There is a lot out there in this regard, but direct them to his plan and maybe even consider talking about the historical implications when the middle class gets to small (Mexico, French Revolution, etc, etc), corruption runs rampant.

You might not change their minds, but at least relieve their’s when we win.

30 10 2008
Road Runner

GUYS AND GALS!!
Wasilla Frontiersmen endorses McLame and Palin oh-12

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003885449

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

Dianna:

“Hmmm. Is that info out for public consumption?”

Yes, but let me chat w/ my friend in the AM tomorrow. it Just so happens she flew back in today for a Halloween visit so I can pump her for more of the details and post back here in the “Internet tubes”. I also have your email address so I’ll let you know through those “email tubes” also.

Sorry – I just can’t stop thinking about Sen. Ted Stevens and how he SO needs to retire and get a life. And have some shame.

30 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Good article (Diary) at the KOS (watch out for the over-use of BOLD tho)

How Obama is Fueling the GOP Civil War

“”this very tactic of Obama’s, winning over opposition and SOFT support on other side, is scaring the bejesus out of GOPers, he’s OUR Reagan, appearing so calm, so reasonable, so charismatic as he dismantles their constructs one by one… and make no mistake slowly and surely he’s been dismantling bedrock conservative principles of de-regulation, trickle down ecomonics and small, non-involved government. Now he’s surely been aided in this DISMANTLING by the economic crisis and Alan Greenspan’s own admission there’s a FLAW in his de-regulation ideology, but he’s giving the opening to other rational fiscal conservatives to question their own bedrock principles.””

read more @ http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/31/04116/099/253/647594

30 10 2008
Dianna

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon,
By the way, I sent you an e-mail earlier.
Looks like Stevens has lost some of his popularity and Begich is leading. Hopeful.

You feeling better? I recommended that chicken soup cure.

30 10 2008
biglake ak

nswfm CA (17:08:45) :
‘to save money on healthcare is STOP THE DAMNED DRUG ADVERTISING’

Good Point.
I have heard (can’t substantiate this) that only in the U.S. and New Zealand can drug companies advertise.

30 10 2008
braveny

@mhrt oregon “steve”
Per HIPAA your sis should still have the same coverage she has now if they are changing the carrier of the insurance it has portability. She is not changing jobs. The company supplying the healthcare benefits is changing the carrier. It should be no different. Pre existing conditions should not apply in a case like this.

Check here:
http://www.cms.hhs.gov/HealthInsReformforConsume/

30 10 2008
Rocketman

I find this circular benefits vs. rewards thing that politicians use very similar to the drug dealer handing out ‘free samples’ of weed or coke or …oh, wait a minute don’t the pharma companies do that now too…hmmmm. Plus, Bush jumped on that same ‘bandwagon’ when he released our Economic Stimulus checks…and now a HUGE govt bailout check in the billions! Cmon we need the people to be independent (and yet utilize) NOT be DEPENDENT on our govt. That’s my two -cents worth!🙂

31 10 2008
Angel_N_AK

I know. An associate of mine questioned why I was posting things about Palin that seemed so negative and pretty much said the same thing — why would I be against someone who pushed the $1200 check. I posted about this on your site but didn’t seem to get any response out of it (although it was just a comment, not like I was bloggin’ about it like you are).

So she got nasty and calculated the cost with each kid and pretty much told me I was two faced.

AS IF IT WERE PALIN’S MONEY????!!!!

Sigh… and so does that mean I MUST, HAVE TO vote for Palin just because of it? hmmm

31 10 2008
Sarah of AZ

Sometimes I like to blog on the ABC News site, but more and more there are so many people who say they are for Palin, who say the most awful, racist things, but who call themselves Christians. I really would like to understand why she attracts such hateful people. It is really depressing. I thought we had come a lot further in our society.

Obama/Biden 08

31 10 2008
Cartoon Pig Dog

CO Almost Native ———

Are you a member in the Forum? I looked for you in there so I could send you a personal message but I couldn’t find you. But what the hell, we’re pretty much all friends here anyway so I’ll just put my question to you here.

You mentioned in your first comment that you were a breast cancer survivor (after I mentioned that I regularly donate to breast cancer research). I was just curious, have you heard of the “sister study” or are you involved with it? If not, you should look into it. I think the information they gather through the sister study is critical to the research being done and every woman who has (or has had) breast cancer, or is related to someone who has it should check out the sister study as it helps with determining a lot of hereditary factors involved along with other similarities in the overall conditions of breast cancer patients.
It can be a pain at first, they come to your house and take about half of your blood (well, they fill about a dozen little test tubes anyway), DNA swipes inside your cheeks, pee, etc., but then it’s a just a matter of occasionally answering a few questions and they keep you updated on any advances made in research.
Anyway, this is way off topic for this thread (that’s why I tried to send you a personal message in the forum) so I’ll stop here and get back to my own site to get started on my last few blogs before the election.

All Mudpuppies here have a great weekend!!

31 10 2008
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31 10 2008
owen

Good try.

This energy rebate program was in place long before Palin was the Gov of Alaska. Decades in fact.

Maybe someone in Alaska was a socialist, but it wasn’t her.

31 10 2008
Sarah of AZ

Owen if the energy rebate program has been in place for a long time before Palin, why is she taking credit for it? She can’t have it both ways. The term socialist is stupid. Palin has been falsely slinging it around about Obama all month.

31 10 2008
babbo

Let’s be realistic. $1,200 doesn’t even pay most peoples monthly mortgage bill.

If Exxon and other oil companies are making billions of dollars of profit quarterly, when there is NO real help for people in the middle class who have thousands of $$ of debt, who are struggling but still paying their credit and mortgage bills on time, when the government helps everybody BUT IT’s OWN PEOPLE – I think that lady in the car (spitting her words at you) needs to wake up (maybe she’s a call girl or something)!

Wake up lady!

Calling someone names is just so second grade. Grandma used to say if you don’t have something nice to say, keep your mouth shut. Just because there’s a presidential race, this is not a license to act like an ass. Unless you are an ass, in which case, well, you don’t have much choice…

At this point, we’re looking at a Republican party that is bordering on Dictatorship.

No thank you…

babbo
http://www.daddybrain.wordpress.com

31 10 2008
London Escort Agency

I agree I really hope they dont get in. Im glad of Clintons support not long to wait now folks

31 10 2008
Alaska, Sarah Palin, and Socialism « American Missive

[…] that WordPress’s most ardent enemy of Sarah Palin has some how begun accusing Mrs. Palin of being a socialist. I wasn’t surprised. Those who dislike Mrs. Palin have come up with all manner of scorn to […]

31 10 2008
inappropriateone

We’re all socialists honey…got news for you…this country IS social…to some degree…

Social Security, medicaid, medicare, wall street bailouts…. It’s kinda the “one nation” thing…

I’m an Obot as we’re called, but I’m not into Palin or McCain bashing either… It’s not getting them anywhere, let’s not sink to that level…whaddayasay?

31 10 2008
OffTopic

Off Topic:

I just saw Bristol carrying her baby, Trig. How far along is she supposed to be, now?

She was about 5 months along they said about 2 months ago, right? So, she must be 6.5 7.5 month at least right?

Is she showing like a woman who is that far along? Does she look different than when mommy announced she was pregnant?

Just wondering

31 10 2008
gfish

It’s not socialism until a Republican front-runner says it is. Otherwise it’s just mana from heaven no one needs to ask about… =P

31 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Isn’t state support for Special Needs Children like dear baby Trig socialism? Just ask’in.

31 10 2008
dsr

don’t be surprised if the republicans don’t pull a fast one before tuesday. it has been done before…remember the hanging chads???
about mccain winning, i hope everyone will think about iran and him wanting to fight, fight, fight. we will be in 3 wars and not enough men and women in the service…so it will have to be a draft.
and who would in their right mind, vote for someone that a jury found guilty???if that happens, you all get what you deserve. i guess the same goes for voting for mccain. palin for a president…heaven forbid!!!

31 10 2008
Brad G

I wish the major employers where I live in Michigan would give us a check because of their profits. I’m still waiting for GM, Chrylser, and Ford to send me one. Oh wait they are broke.

So your obviously not voting McCain. Agree with you there.

http://thetop10reasons.com/the-top-10-reasons-to-not-vote-for-john-mccain

It doesn’t look like you like Obama unless I missed something.

http://thetop10reasons.com/the-top-10-reasons-to-not-vote-for-barack-obama

I am going to write in Ron Paul this year. I know he’s not going to win and stopped campaigning because he did not get the Republican nomination. Figured my vote was wasted by voting for either of them because Obama and McCains policies are basically the same. No real change is coming from either.

I can’t disagree with any of Ron Paul’s stances especially when he wanted to eliminate the IRS, bring home all of the troops around the world and shrink the U.S Government.

31 10 2008
Marianne

you are so vile. I wonder why you keep getting featured.

1 11 2008
gfish

Marianne,

Maybe AKM is getting featured because people are more interested in how people perceive politics than superstitions of how Halloween is “dedicated to evil forces?”

Just a wild guess…

2 11 2008
Carlos Navarro

Educationally disadvantaged types like Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber and their vociferous adherents can’t be expected to know the true meaning of the word socialism. To them, socialism is synonymous with anti-American, treason, tyranny, Arab, Muslim, Godlessness, evil or whatever else they imagine it to be. But surely John McCain and his better informed surrogates must know that the governments of our closest allies—Britain, Canada, Italy, Sweden, Germany, Holland and Israel, to name some—all have well-entrenched socialistic components, like universal health care and retirement plans. And aren’t our own Social Security, Medicare, NASA, National Park Service and mighty Armed Forces all government-funded socialistic programs? And how about Sarah Palin’s proposed $45 billion program for special-needs children? Isn’t that pure socialism?

The “vulgarization” of American politics, as noted by Peggy Noonan, would be more aptly described as rabble ignorance.

Carlos the Carpenter (a real person)




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