Rule #1 – Know Your Audience.

30 10 2008

Public speaking.  It puts fear in the hearts of many, but if mastered, it can be an invaluable skill and can launch wildly successful political careers.  And as any public speaker can tell you, the first thing to do, before putting pen to paper, is to know your audience.  Here are some helpful tips from “School for Champions.”

Your purpose in speaking to a group is to inform, persuade, or entertain the audience. Your motivation is to get satisfaction from expressing your ideas and getting recognition or applause from the audience.  In order to achieve your purpose, as well as to get the expression and applause you desire, you must satisfy the audience with something in which they are interested. Thus, it is important to know what your audience is interested in, what their expectations are and even what mood they are in.

Makes sense.  And I’ll bet it’s really helpful to know your audience when you’re speaking all over the country in different places, and to different people all the time. It’s a chance to make them feel special, and like you really care about them, and have bothered to learn a little something about their needs, and interests.  But, how do you know what your audience will be like?  How do you learn about them?

You can find out about the audience through research before you speak, through interaction at the beginning of your talk, and by making adjustments during the speech. 

Before you speak–and even before you prepare your speech–you should know what sort of audience you will have. What is the nature of the group? What do they expect to hear from you? Do they have any special interests or prejudices about which you should be aware?

Yes…research.  I bet it’s really handy when out on the campaign trail to have a crackerjack research team, so you know who you’re speaking to, and what sort of “special interests or prejudices” they might have.  Unless, maybe they took the day off, or maybe you think you know about sports geography on the East Coast.

Yes, that’s Sarah Palin today in Erie, thinkin’ all Pennsylvanians must just love those Phillies.  Errrr…. Big mistake.  But, if we’re feeling generous, we could remember that Alaska has no major league baseball teams, so maybe she just couldn’t believe that a tiny little state like Pennsylvania would have MORE than one, and that Pirates fans might not share the love.

But sometimes, no matter how many excuses you make for someone, the fact that they just aren’t thinking is hard to hide.  For instance, take Palin’s recent visit to a solar technology startup company in the battleground state of Ohio. 

Palin spoke after touring Xunlight Corp., one of a handful of solar technology startup companies in Toledo, a struggling industrial city in this swing state. The city’s leaders are hoping that the solar companies will create jobs to replace some of those lost by downsizing in the auto industry.

But Palin made only a passing reference to solar power in her speech and instead renewed her call for more drilling in U.S. coastal waters. She repeated her signature anthem, “drill, baby, drill,” which seemed to fall a bit flat on the audience at the plant even as it’s become a popular chant at her rallies.

I think I actually would have paid money to be present in the audience at a solar technology company, and hear Sarah Palin start chanting, “Drill Baby Drill!” 

Isn’t that right Toledo?!?  How ’bout them Phillies!?!  YEAH!!!

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30 10 2008
Lulu

I totally agree, AKM.

Palin is like Mrs. Malaprop. She always says the wrong thing.

She should have said “Corral sunshine, Baby. Corral sunshine.”

30 10 2008
protus

yeah I agree🙂

30 10 2008
Elmer Creek

Her credibility just keeps going down, down,down……

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

me three

30 10 2008
protus

No McSame or Failin!!!

GoBama!! GoBiden!!

Get out there and Vote people I dont care how long it takes we have waited 8 years for this day lets make it happen!!!

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Oh just in time. Top 10.
Night again everyone… night AKM

30 10 2008
biglake (sack panther hussein)

And it would have been a perfect opportunity for ‘the ticket’ to show a little Green interest. But if ya don’t have it, ya can’t flaunt it.

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

She also spoke in favor of the Phillies in Western PA to a booing audience.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Lulu, ha! You WEREN’T dreaming.

I, too, would have paid money to be in the audience when Palin started bleating her inane “Drill, baby, drill” chant to a solar technology startup company.

Neiman Marcus shopping spree in Minneapolis: $75,000.

Fudging the records so the state pays for your kids’ luxurious adventures around the country: $23,000.

Saying the wrong thing at exactly the wrong time: Priceless.

30 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Lastly, the kid over her left shoulder is priceless. Big boooo just in time for halloween. This chick is so craptastic! Night everyone.

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Obviously I wrote before I fully researched. SP is having a negative influence on a lot of people.

30 10 2008
Tessa

New poll results in NY Times – “All told, 59 percent of voters surveyed said Ms. Palin was not prepared for the job, up nine percentage points since the beginning of the month. Nearly a third of voters polled said the vice-presidential selection would be a major factor influencing their vote for president, and those voters broadly favor Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee.”
Thanks Sarah!!

30 10 2008
Dianna

AsianH,

Typed to you on other thread and missed everyone jumping over to here… bringing up the rear.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Thanks, AKM – I was just about to hunt down this youtube.

Maybe she should stick to “it’s cold here; I just love the cold, I’m right at home in it” – or “It’s so warm here; I like it” ………..

Has anyone made her stop saying, “You just get it” regardless of whom she’s addressing? grrrr

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Interesting how she seems totally oblivious to all the booing, and that she’s made a gaffe. I don’t follow sports, live in California, but know enough not to talk about the Phillies when I’ve visited Western PA. Surely she has a handler . . .oh, that’s right. She decided that it’s better to let Sarah be stupid rather than scripted.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Night again, Chief Hussein Shikago. See ya on the ‘flats tomorrow.

30 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

guess it is the same as “my friends”….creepy smile….chuckle ..chucke….my husband caught me asleep on the keyboard last night…………
can not wake up with a b c’s all over my face tomorrow
nite

30 10 2008
califpat

SWWNBN is probably right in thinking that her handlers have mishandled her because they all seem to be in the same low IQ pool and low information status, as well as being micro mental midgets. Collectively or at least one of her advisors should have advised her about the “Philly’s” and the Xunlight Corp. But advisers that would put “Joe the Plumber” on their campaign trail, who is not a plumber, who talks about taxes, (and he has not paid his own taxes) are truly mentally challenged. And they are running for the two highest positions in the United States? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Does Ohio have a crude oil pump in the state?

30 10 2008
Answerbird

Alaskans, after Obama wins, can’t you just make her go away. There has to be some dirt that will prevent her from running in 2012. When I hear her voice I want to put an ice pick in my eye!

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

In this day and age it takes only a few seconds to have the local newspaper right in front of you. She should also have known how the Pirates did.

30 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Was wondering why it got quiet on other thread ((lol))

Good article (diary) on the KOS – watch out for the over-use of BOLD tho.

HOW OBAMA IS FUELING THE GOP CIVIL WAR

“”this very tactic of Obama’s, winning over opposition and SOFT support on other side, is scaring the bejesus out of GOPers, he’s OUR Reagan, appearing so calm, so reasonable, so charismatic as he dismantles their constructs one by one… and make no mistake slowly and surely he’s been dismantling bedrock conservative principles of de-regulation, trickle down ecomonics and small, non-involved government. Now he’s surely been aided in this DISMANTLING by the economic crisis and Alan Greenspan’s own admission there’s a FLAW in his de-regulation ideology, but he’s giving the opening to other rational fiscal conservatives to question their own bedrock principles.””

read more @ http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/31/04116/099/253/647594

30 10 2008
Lacy Lady

Just saw on a late night show—-a girl in a teen beauty contest—they compared her little speech to Sarah Palin. FUNNY!!!!!!! Could not make sense from what she was saying. It cost this girl being a winner. Hope it cost Palin being a winner. I can’t believe she has a degree in anything.

30 10 2008
Answerbird

For those of you not familiar with the goegraphy of Pennyslvania, Erie is 421 miles away from Phillie and a 7 hour drive. Phillie can be considered a Mid-Atlantic city, Erie is really a Midwest/Great Lake city.

30 10 2008
akmuckraker

Oh. My. God.
I’m listening to a live debate between Ted Stevens and Mark Begich. Ted Stevens just said he’d like to see Sarah Palin become President of the United States.

can’t….breathe….

30 10 2008
LibertyLover

Public speaking Lessons: Free at the local Toastmasters Meetings
New Duds for the Gov: $150,000
Schlepping first AK Family around on the “Straight talk” express: $$$$$
Drop in the popularity and competence polls: Priceless

30 10 2008
Dianna

Is he getting senile?

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

QUICK! Somebody give AKM a hard whack!!!

Oh, my goodness!!!

GASSSP! cough….Eyes opening…..blinking….Aussie Puck Mule? Is that you? Where am I?? AKM

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

She always thinks the boos are cheers. Because she is a narcissist. That’s just how they are. Ultimately, her children will be the victims, as evidenced by Track and Bristol. I really like Piper, so I hope that child can be salvaged by being pawned off on grandparents or the State of Alaska or something.

30 10 2008
Answerbird

akmuckraker: Didn’t Ted get the memo that Sarah threw him under the bus! Reminds me of Queens (NYC) democratic politics. You could kill your mother and still get elected.

30 10 2008
Dianna

Answerbird (21:43:54) :
Alaskans, after Obama wins, can’t you just make her go away. There has to be some dirt that will prevent her from running in 2012. When I hear her voice I want to put an ice pick in my eye!

She is a problem for ALL of us, not just Alaska. We all have a responsibility to see that her efforts are thwarted.

30 10 2008
protus

OH man Obama was just on CNN Live at an event in Missouri.

WOW!!! you go Barrack you’ve got the message keep spreading the word!!!

30 10 2008
ira2

akmuckraker (21:47:39) :

Oh. My. God.
I’m listening to a live debate between Ted Stevens and Mark Begich. Ted Stevens just said he’d like to see Sarah Palin become President of the United States.

can’t….breathe….

He said that?? Out loud??? Did the poor man spend way too much time in Sarah’s tanning bed or something????

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

You know, all this silliness from a communications major–I mean, they teach that you should know your audience, right? I teach that in sixth grade–makes University of Idaho look like Boxtop U. Send in a box top and 50 cents, they give you a degree. How can anyone think they’ll get a serious, competent education there after seeing what they turn out!

BTW. In my sixth grade class, if anyone gave a speech with so many run on sentences and unfinished thoughts as she does, they would fail. Even my second language learners. I expect better command of both the language and content from 11 year olds than has been expected of her.

Hang in, AKM! Teddy is just also another old man thinkin’ with the wrong head, doncha’ know.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Answerbird (21:52:57) :

Didn’t Ted get the memo that Sarah threw him under the bus!

Somebody needs to get that bus to BACK UP!

30 10 2008
akmuckraker

I don’t get it!!! She just asked him to step down! She threw him under the bus! There are no words…

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

AKA, deep breaths! Do you need to be talked down, ala Rachel Maddow?

Dianna, yeah, I am a pacifist. An angry, angry pacifist right now, but a pacifist, nonetheless. “Guns don’t kill people; people kill people.” Yeah, well, guns sure make it a whole lot easier. Ever hear of a drive-by stabbing? No.

Pirates, Phillies, they both begin with “P”! Really, if she were a Josephine-Six-Pack, she would have KNOWN the difference between these two teams. Sheesh!

When she was saying how Pittsburgh must be proud of their quarterback, she had to say, “Ben Roth-less-bur-ger.” Honestly, she drew it out for a really long time.

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

Answerbird (21:43:54) :

“Alaskans, after Obama wins, can’t you just make her go away.”

We ALL have to make her go away!

We can overcome. It won’t be long for her own hubris & not too smart mavericky personality to catch up with her – even though there will be excuse after excuse and lie after lie tumbling from her lips There will be lawsuits and ethics complaints, currently and probably more to come. The full Legislature convenes in Jan here in Juneau, and she’s thumbed her noses at many of them already (in addition to both the Superior and Supreme Courts of Alaska). It’s highly possible that pressure will be put on her “mini me” Attorney General to resign as he has already done some questionable things on his own. She had State Commissioners hassling Walt Monegan – which means the actions of the Commissioners may well be involved in the Troopergate II investigation, which was expanded to include more people than just SP.

It’s up to ALL OF YOU to keep up with these events and do what is necessary to oppose her wherever you are. She is the Sarah Life Form (someone said that a month or so ago and I loved it) and she will try to overcome and adapt. She will gladly try to assemble her zealot army, but I’m afraid that there aren’t enough of those to win an election. Plus some of them might try to move to Wasilla, which could be kinda weird and funny at the same time. You know how people get when they “adore” an idol no matter how flawed or stupid the idol is.

Because her zealot army won’t be big enough, she will have to try to attract and distract throughout the country. We are ready for her – that’s where all of YOU come in.

OK – bedtime for me! I just scared myself thinking about those whack jobs of hers following the head whack job back to Alaska! Not really.. just kidding..we are ready…you be ready, too – for the NEXT FOUR YEARS!

30 10 2008
GiGi

Yikes..I am beginning to feel sorry for Palin, I doubt if this latest boo boo was her fault
she is finally parroting the talking points and they are screwing her..she was doing better when she ignored them.

30 10 2008
mwTHATONE40yrsAnchorage

Thank you, Dianna……
She doesn’t speak for me……or anyone but herself….sortof. Also.

30 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Maybe Ted is hoping that Palin will become President so she can pardon him.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, you made me crack up. I sense a sermon brewing here….

AKB, I think it’s Stevens’ sly way of showing public support whilst busily cutting a deal behind her back with the Feds. Yeah. That’s it. Or, he’s just completely lost it and rushed around the bend into senility.

30 10 2008
califpat

Protus:
Yep, I just saw Barack Obama in Missouri and as usual he was electrifying and so magnetic. Thank you AKM and mudpuppies for having this amazing blog and for having a place where I can go to regain my sanity and hope when I start to get depessed. I love you guys.

30 10 2008
Answerbird

Aussie Puck: Don’t worry, the pro-business/professional poloticos wing of the Republican Party have Sarah’s number now. Retribution will be swift and unmerciful. You should never underestimate your opponent, but Sarah has made some powerful enemies.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon, thanks for the rousing reminder that it behooves us all to make sure Palin (and others of her ilk) doesn’t succeed in her plans to dominate the earth. Night!

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

re Barack Obama:

“A man can be admirable in many ways and quite promising and still not be quite ready for the most important and demanding job in the world,” [Palin] told about 7,500 supporters crammed into a convention center in the western side of the state.

OHHH, but SHE is ready, so wired in a way for the mission, not blinking …. (where’s my bucket?)

30 10 2008
Answerbird

akmuckraker: Ted probably figures that the conviction lost him the independents and soft democrats and is worried that an impending Obama victory might mean low turnout. He is probably trying to rally the base. Can you conduct Senate votes remotely from jail?

30 10 2008
Dianna

Answerbird (22:06:08) :
Aussie Puck: Don’t worry, the pro-business/professional poloticos wing of the Republican Party have Sarah’s number now. Retribution will be swift and unmerciful. You should never underestimate your opponent, but Sarah has made some powerful enemies.

…. and potentially powerful allies. Do NOT underestimate this woman. She has tunnel vision in her pursuit of power. That is what makes her tick.

30 10 2008
not your pal Palin

First?

30 10 2008
not your pal Palin

Not even close. I had tried earlier, but comments wouldn’t open and then didn’t see any when I clicked again. Oh well.

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

If those beyond dimwitted and stupid remarks were from her script, then her handlers are throwing HER under the bus, (getting crowded under there) figuring McCain has lost, but wanting to blame her. She’s made a lot of enemies over time, but she may have met her match in McCain. He’s been using people and tossing them aside to get ahead a lot longer than she, and has the organization and money to back him up. Ought to be interesting to see who comes out of this on top, or if they destroy each other in a shrieking snipefest full of bad language, back stabbing, and soap commercials. As the Stomach Turns* come to real life!
But please prosecute, recall, impeach, tar and feather, and strand her on the one remaining ice flow in the North Sea. Then bury her at a crossroads with a stake through her heart

*Credit given to Carol Burnett

30 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

When will other republicans stand up and say that they do not appreciate the christian conservatives being considered as the base of the party? That is part of the reason the GOP is losing. The picking of Palin was to energize the base, but it also turned off the rest of the conservatives. She does not energize the rest of the conservatives and they are all defecting. I hope this election will help the GOP kick out the Christian Right and make them get their own party.

30 10 2008
Dianna

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon,
By the way, I sent you an e-mail earlier.
Looks like Stevens has lost some of his popularity and Begich is leading. Hopeful.

You feeling better? I recommended that chicken soup cure. Goodnight.

30 10 2008
Answerbird

Dianna: Agreed! If you saw “W” back in 1998 you would have thought that this rube would have no chance of being president. What scares me about Sarah, if she became president, she would actually have an agenda. All “W” wanted was lower capital gains and tax cuts for the wealthy until 9/11 happened.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein, I think you hit on something important: Which GOP running mate can more quickly kill off the career of the other. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the end of both their careers if they lose.

As many pundits have pointed out, what if they win? How in the world could they coexist?

30 10 2008
LaNon

could someone please pass sister AK a paper bag to breathe into?
she’s got a long long year ahead of her!

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@GiGi (22:03:40) :

Yikes..I am beginning to feel sorry for Palin, I doubt if this latest boo boo was her fault
she is finally parroting the talking points and they are screwing her..she was doing better when she ignored them.
——————————————-
I posted one of her prepared speeches compared with what actually came out of her mouth on the day on the previous thread. I’m betting the gaffe was one of Sarah’s charming additions. Her speechwriters would have a much better idea of PA – being the elite East Coast liberals they are.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@GiGi (22:03:40) :

Yikes..I am beginning to feel sorry for Palin, I doubt if this latest boo boo was her fault
she is finally parroting the talking points and they are screwing her..she was doing better when she ignored them.
——————————————-
I posted one of her prepared speeches compared with what actually came out of her mouth on the day on the previous thread. I’m betting the gaffe was one of Sarah’s charming additions. Her speechwriters would have a much better idea of PA – being the elite East Coasters they are.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

sorry was thinking too fast

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

But Bush just followed his handlers–like a steer with a ring through its nose on the end of a rope. Funny thing about steers–being former bulls, and all. What do you call a neutered cow??????????????? Or pit bull with lipstick! But no matter, that’s not Sarah. She is who she is, and, even with all her handling and her thought that she was handled, she actually wasn’t. The real her shone through in stark relief from the campaign speech with the jutting jaw and vitriol, right through Phillies in WPA and oil in Toledo.

30 10 2008
Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon

Dianna, I just found your email! Thank you – I have been drinking organic chicken soup, with lots of habanero powder and Cellfood thrown in for good measure. I feel much better, but I still don’t have my voice back. I will email you in the AM – thanks for being so cheerful and supportive, and for being here, too with your voice from Mississippi.

Hey, while I’m sleeping – will you guys figure out how to fix the Palin problem and then give me a call? Awesome. Good night.

30 10 2008
Mayflower

akmuckraker (21:47:39) :
Oh. My. God.
I’m listening to a live debate between Ted Stevens and Mark Begich. Ted Stevens just said he’d like to see Sarah Palin become President of the United States.

can’t….breathe….
———–

Damn! I knew I toddled back down here because I missed you guys so much! AKM that WILL get big play, won’t it??? Please assure us it will???? Man, you Alaskans have so much to deal with when the Ice Queen/Momma Dearest returns/(hopefully exits promptly)…..

But we’re here for you!!!! All of us!!!!

30 10 2008
Dianna

Answerbird (22:17:14) :
Dianna: Agreed! If you saw “W” back in 1998 you would have thought that this rube would have no chance of being president. What scares me about Sarah, if she became president, she would actually have an agenda. All “W” wanted was lower capital gains and tax cuts for the wealthy until 9/11 happened.

It amazes me why we tolerate stupidity and/or corruption in our leadership. Just because it has become ubiquitous, doesn’t mean we can’t demand better.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

califpat, aaargh! I want to be a swing state! Any time you need a boost, just visit the Mudflats. That should be a slogan.

30 10 2008
Mayflower

akmuckraker (22:02:16) :
I don’t get it!!! She just asked him to step down! She threw him under the bus! There are no words…
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But there’s that ‘story’ …. full of Scary Sarah S&^t!….. (supposedly)

30 10 2008
Mayflower

Something more is there…. something larger…. it’s just gotta come out…. I really hope sooner, but I guess I’ll trust the pros….

30 10 2008
Actongue

Palin is a Joke
She has a track record of Abusing her power and corruption like almost all politicians yet has less experiene and qualifications and educationthen then most
She may have a certain smartness about her( like a game show host smart) but it by far and away does not make her qualified for VP
I have seen posters on various bogs that are smarter and better qualified then her

She is a disgrace to any parent with a special needs kid by not even knowing the basics of her own kids needs and what causes it along with what is being done to cure it.

I totally agree with the Energy speech I wish there were interviews to watch or read from the Employees (I would be on the phone telling my friends and family not to vote her if I was at the speech)
As for her Her (so-called)Energy policy Speech was a joke Drill baby Drill. She was in a Solar production plant and barely even acknowledged the workers that were there listening to her

My heart goes out to the Alaskans and hope that she is removed from office and you and the rest of us do not have to hear from her again

Ex Coastie
USCGC Ironwood Kodiak AK
CGC Polar Sea partied with the polar bears …well from a distance while drinking rainier beer:}

30 10 2008
Melissa

Somebody on her speechwriting staff clearly doesn’t know that Erie is likely to support the Pirates rather than the Phillies. In fact, I would think there are more likely to be Phillies fans in New Jersey and New York than in W. Pennsylvania.

Sen. Stevens clearly hasn’t been paying attention to the media that is saying that Ms. Palin has a strong disapproval rating.

30 10 2008
Dianna

Martha,
Will burn the midnight oil and work on the Palin Problem. Sleep well!

30 10 2008
LaNon

responsiblecitizen08 (22:15:52) :

When will other republicans stand up and say that they do not appreciate the christian conservatives being considered as the base of the party?
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RC: you have hit on a huge one with this. After the election the trauma and drama in the Reublican party is going to be UGLY. Reagan moved the blue collar voters into the R column and with them the fundies. They have thoroughly f’ed up this country. Consider: Repubs at the same time think that Sarah is the future of the party, and that Sarah is responsible for losing this election. They are going down on failed capitalistic policies (Greenspan, Graham and the rest of ’em) and things are going to get expensive for a bunch of spoiled arses. They are quite piggy so the class warfare is going to be nuts. I think this is the crisis that will face our new president. Domestic freak-out.

The country has been redistributing wealth from 90% of the Americans to the uppermost rich people under the failed policies of the bushes, reaganacs, and really, back to Nixon (although he did a LOT for women’s rights and the arts).

We’ve been underwriting their banks, their big big loans, deregulating their markets while we sit by just paying and paying and paying while they tan and shop and have plastic surgery. That’s my English major-art historian view of economics.

30 10 2008
timmmahhhh

Responsiblecitizen08 says: “When will other republicans stand up and say that they do not appreciate the christian conservatives being considered as the base of the party?”

AMEN!!!

The answer is when Obama wins and they realize that they don’t have to play the Jesus card to work upon our fears and to appease to Dobson and his Focus on the Fascism cronies.

Oh, and if you want to wow them in Toledo – tell them you’re impressed with those Mud Hens. Ohio that is – en Espana it’s probably a soccer team.🙂

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Ted probably finds praising Sarah more potent and less expensive than viagra.

30 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

I am bummed out that I didn’t get to see Obama tonight. I live in Missouri and planned on making the 3 hours trip to Columbia, but could not due to my many responsibilities at home. I am also a student that has been lacking in academic discipline due to this election. It is also difficult to plan on going to these events because they usually announce them only 2 days before the fact. I was lucky to get to go see Biden in Springfield a couple of weeks ago. I also live only about 30 minute from Iowa, so I got to see Biden in the primaries. I wish I had gone to see more candidates when I had the chance. I am kicking myself for not going to see Obama earlier.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Dianna, right on. It’s funny how some people don’t like Obama because he’s an elitist for having gone to Harvard–but they think Bush is the greatest guy, and he went to Yale! Granted, he got Cs, but he still went. His Daddy bought him the Texas Rangers for a bit. John McCain has six houses and thirteen cars. The Palins have over a million in assets. Who are the elitists?

30 10 2008
LaNon

Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein (22:34:20) :
Ted probably finds praising Sarah more potent and less expensive than viagra.
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Funny. So does McCain.

30 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

AKM
“Ted Stevens just said he’d like to see Sarah Palin become President of the United States.
can’t….breathe….”

I have three rational explanations – 1, he really hates the federal government right now and this would be the ideal revenge; 2, he knows his endorsement would be the kiss of death for Sarah if it becomes widely known, after all people will wonder why did he back her if they aren’t involved in some political hanky panky; 3 maybe he’s hoping for a presidential pardon.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

responsiblecitizen08, unfortunately, the GOP has become so toxic that the moderate conservatives and some even not-so-moderate conservatives feel compelled to flee. That’s why I think there will be a third major party with the old GOP being shrunk to the smallest of the three parties.

By the way, for all the Reverend Wright crap being thrown around, someone should tape all the bile that spews from the mouths of Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly, et. al, and let’s see who really hates America.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein
30 10 2008
SMR

AKM & All —

Perhaps we can spin this Stevens statement to give us happy thoughts. Maybe he is thinking that the very worst thing for her is for him to endorse her. Like the SNL skit where MacDaddy is trying desperately to get out of having W endorse him. Perhaps Ted is trying very hard to LOSE, so that stepping down is no longer an issue, and so is working on alienating any republicans out there who would have voted for him but think Bible Spice is a big steaming pile of doo so now that they’ve heard that they know he has lost his mind so he has lost their vote?

How in the world could an endorsement from a convicted felon, asked by McLame, the repub senate leader and even Bible Spice herself be considered a GOOD thing? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!!!!!!!!!!! Ted has been around the block about a million times, and you can be sure that he is up to something with that statement! If voters around the U.S. know that A) he has just been convicted of being an unethical politician, and B) he has been siphoning off their tax dollars for big pork for Alaska, surely that endorsement cannot bode well for the perception of her by lower 49 voters…

Imagine the headlines: Bible Spice didn’t get the endorsement of her state’s largest newspaper, but recently convicted felon, US Senator Ted Stevens, thinks that she will make a fine president someday!

30 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

timmmahhhh (22:30:25)
I hope you are right. I think it is a shame that conservatives have allowed christian fundamentalists to run the party. Former Senator John Danforth wrote an excellent book about this very subject. I believe it is ” Faith and Politics.” It is a very good book and I would highly recommend it no matter what your party persuasion may be. Also, “Our Endangered Values” by Jimmy Carter talks about the infusion of religion into politics. He talks about how the Southern Baptists basically accused him of being too secular and how the Southern Baptists became overrun with the fundamentalists. Both very good books.

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Yep, I can imagine both John and Ted, eying themselves in their respective steamed-up bathroom mirrors (we’re outside the door and spared the visual) flexing their biceps that bulge under the arm. Each one, saying under his breathe, “Yep! still got it! And I don’t need to fake it with a pill! Sarah, uh, Cindy-pooh (Catherine-pie) let’s hit the sheets early! <> drool, wildly rolling, bugged out eyes.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Speaking of Dobson:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/james-dobsons-letter-from_b_139253.html

I didn’t read the links from Dobson or the whole letter, but he is truly vile. I don’t like to call people names, but wingnut fits here.

As Margaret Cho said, I want Jesus (if he really was the son of god) to walk up to Dobson, slap him upside the head and scream, “That’s not what I meant!”

30 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Dobson is a miserable excuse for an agent of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit!

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Nope. I’ve changed my mind. Ted is hoping to play the part of Monica to Palin’s B. Clinton. It’ll become a made for TV movie–The Clinton Years! Palinized and Republicanized. Watch out McCain. Ted’s gunnin’ for ya! And I betcha he has experience also in shooting down helpless animals from planes.

30 10 2008
Erica

hahahahaha *wiping tears from my eyes*
Someone tell me it’s all a big joke that she could be second in command. Please, lie to me.

30 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

akmuckraker (21:47:39) :

Oh. My. God.
I’m listening to a live debate between Ted Stevens and Mark Begich. Ted Stevens just said he’d like to see Sarah Palin become President of the United States.
___________

Maybe he said he’d like to see Sarah Palin become resident of the lower States?

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein, thanks for the guaranteed nightmares.

You know who else needs to be put out of my misery? Joe the Fake Plumber. Please. You have GOT to be kidding me!

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Sorry, asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

That’s why I stayed outside the bathroom door! ;-D

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Obama campaign is big-spending penny pincher

“Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has collected a record-shattering $640 million, but only two of his staff members are among the 15 highest-paid workers in the general election, according to campaign finance records. The rest, including the three highest paid, are employed by Sen. John McCain.

The Obama campaign, despite having more than 700 field offices across the country, compared with fewer than 400 for McCain, has spent slightly less on rent than its counterpart. And even though Obama has raised $400 million more than McCain, he has spent less on fundraising consultants”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/6087172.html

30 10 2008
BS

Yeah – just like The Frontiersman editorial endorsing McCain. Most of the comments are anti-McCain. Maybe the people in the vallley aren’t so stupid after all. If The Frontiersman doesn’t wake up, they will go the way of the Anchorage Times. Bye Bye. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Erica, it’s just a nightmare. You will wake up in five days, and she will be done.

Better?

responsiblecitizen08, you are being far too kind to Dobson. I am envious that you got to see Joe Biden. Don’t tell anyone, but I would be hard pressed to say who I’d rather see–Obama or Biden.

30 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

Just imagine Joe the Plumber being picked up at a McCain rally by some big, burly IRS “counselors” who have decided to “help” him do his back taxes. Just imagine him spending time in Leavenworth or Attica, or a palace dungeon in some country ending in “stan” because he decides he doesn’t want to pay, because his appointed lawyer, is it Colburn from AK?, tells him he can ignore the subpoenas, jump bail, and live on the McCain ranch. Ahhhhhhhh!

30 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Is Joe the Plumber being monetarily compensated by the campaign for his appearances? Maybe he didn’t show up today because the money has run out.

30 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

After reading that extremely homophobic rambling by Little Jimmy Dobson, I can only think that he is so hopelessly stuck in the closet and afraid to confront himself that he has chosen the usual route for these creeps. Smear ‘those’ that you fear because you fear you may be one of ‘those’ yourself. What a pathetic example of tolerance, kindness and goodness. What a complete piece of ignorant and bigoted human waste he is.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein , but I have a really VIVID imagination, so unfortunately, I went there.

Ew. If John McCain is nekkid in my dreams tonight, I am blaming you!

30 10 2008
LaNon

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (22:47:19) :
Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein, thanks for the guaranteed nightmares.

Even being on the other side of the closed door, the vivid imagery sticks.
TMI: too much information.😉

30 10 2008
Dianna

Erica (22:46:06) :
hahahahaha *wiping tears from my eyes*
Someone tell me it’s all a big joke that she could be second in command. Please, lie to me.

Second in command with high probability of First in Command. And speaking of lies, that seems to have been and continues to be part of her strategy in achieving her dream.

We aren’t out of the woods because it doesn’t happen this election. She’s 44 years old with a lofty agenda for herself. If the pressure is not put on her to stop, legally, we will see her again. After this election, what are WE as a nation going to do about her?

After this election is over, will people continue to follow her activities or will they become complacent? I firmly believe, and I will continue to say this, she is a problem for ALL of us. Keeping informed about SP is critical. And whatever action we can take and support Alaska needs, we must be ready to help.

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

The Times of India:

The surest sign that McCain is on the backfoot is the decision by his campaign to crank up robocalls and advertising in his own home state of Arizona which was written into his column. The enormous $ 600 million war chest that Obama has generated has enabled him to outspend McCain 4-to-1 in the final days, causing panic in the Republican camp. Some Republicans are hoping that there will actually be a backlash against such spending, but that doesn’t seem to be happening since it is the electorate itself that is bankrolling Obama.

(raucous laughter)

30 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

I think it’s time to slip Joe the Fake Plumber into a heavily used septic tank (and throw away all plungers).

30 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

You know who else needs to be put out of my misery? Joe the Fake Plumber. Please. You have GOT to be kidding me!

LOL. He didn’t even show up at the rally to be the spotlight.
Isn’t he writing a book now?

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Sarah “honey bucket” Hussein, unfortunately I have an extremely vivid imagination. If McCain shows up naked in my dreams tonight, I’m blaming you!

responsiblecitizen08, that is a very good question. I know he hired an agent, so he’s gotta be making money somehow. I wouldn’t trust him to fix my pipes, let alone tell me how to vote.

Vlad the I’m HUSSEIN Palin, it’s very possible. Sadly, much of the time, internalized ‘isms’ does irreparable damage.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, the McCain campaign makes my head hurt. Make them stop, please?

Dianna, yeah, that, plus maybe run for Congress in Ohio and play in a country band.

Seriously, WTF?

30 10 2008
Actongue

This is a great read about Palin there is one about McCain too
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23318320/mad_dog_palin

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:07:16) :

Dianna, yeah, that, plus maybe run for Congress in Ohio and play in a country band.
—————–
And then – the porno movie.😉

30 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:07:16) :
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, the McCain campaign makes my head hurt. Make them stop, please?

Dianna, yeah, that, plus maybe run for Congress in Ohio and play in a country band.

Seriously, WTF?

Maybe he can write and sing some political jingles for jingoist McCain?

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, oh no you DIDN’T! McCain and Joe the Plumber in my dreams tonight????? Noooooo! Sarah Palin? The menage a trois from hell!

Please, please, please make it Biden, Obama, and Tina Fey instead!

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Why is Joe the Plumber some sort of expert for the McCain camp? I don’t understand the whole thing. He has a complete BS story about buying a business that he isn’t buying, isn’t a licensed plumber, owes back taxes, and probably lacks the credit score and income to buy anything more than a used car from a buy here pay here lot. Is HE the best they have going for them?

30 10 2008
Dianna

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (23:09:09) :
asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:07:16) :

Dianna, yeah, that, plus maybe run for Congress in Ohio and play in a country band.
—————–
And then – the porno movie.

EEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! LOL

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Obama’s itinerary for the next four days – can you volunteer?

VIRGINIA BEACH — Senator Barack Obama is spending the final four days of his campaign mining for votes in places where Democrats have not turned out at full strength in recent presidential races, hoping to offset other areas in swing states where his candidacy may need a lift.

As Mr. Obama arrived for a rally here on Thursday night, the finishing touches were being etched into his itinerary for the last 96 hours of the contest. He is scheduled to visit at least eight states across three time zones, focusing on liberal and conservative regions from Nevada to Florida where his strategists believe the Democratic margins could be increased by one or two percentage points.

“Don’t believe for a second this election is over. Don’t think for a minute that power concedes,” Mr. Obama said, imploring his supporters to consider the critical importance of their ballots. “We have to work like our future depends on it in this last week — because it does.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31obama.html?ref=us

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin, I heard it explained that he is a symbol…but that makes no sense because HE WOULD GET BIGGER TAX CUTS UNDER OBAMA’S PLAN. To me, he’s just a symbol of all that is messed up with McCain’s campaign. It’s all based on lies. How in the world would McCain/Palin actually lead this country if they were to win?

Dianna, or maybe he can write an inaugural song for President O…no, I still can’t say it yet.

30 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@mhrt oregon”steve” (16:43:16) :

If you’re still around or see this in the morning, I posted a comment for you at/near the end of the Ted Stevens Numbers thread. Bless your family…

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:12:49) :

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, oh no you DIDN’T! McCain and Joe the Plumber in my dreams tonight????? Noooooo! Sarah Palin? The menage a trois from hell!
————————————-
URCK!! Now we’re ALL going to have bad dreams if we’re not careful.

I recommend a viewing of Slick Willy’s speech in Kissimmee before bed. It will certainly put a smile on MY face.😀

30 10 2008
Dianna

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (23:12:49) :
Why is Joe the Plumber some sort of expert for the McCain camp? I don’t understand the whole thing. He has a complete BS story about buying a business that he isn’t buying, isn’t a licensed plumber, owes back taxes, and probably lacks the credit score and income to buy anything more than a used car from a buy here pay here lot. Is HE the best they have going for them?

I don’t understand what their strategy is, but it is like an evil circus that’s come to town. This is the stuff of nightmares and would extremely funny if this wasn’t so serious.

30 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

Dianna, or maybe he can write an inaugural song for President O…no, I still can’t say it yet.

President Ob
President Oba
President Obam
Here goes…. President Obama. We did it!

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, isn’t he a great speaker? He got me fired up. He does nothing for me physically, though. I will dream of Alan Rickman instead. Hey, I can’t think about politics ALL the time.

Dianna, thanks. I needed the push. I can’t sleep waiting for this election to be over. It’s really messing with my mind. I never thought in my lifetime that I would see a black man…I promise I will finish this thought next Wednesday. Who knows? Maybe a woman of color or an LGBT person will be a candidate by the time I die!

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Here ya go, Steph – J.T. Plumber even has bad form in Arizona

http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/joe-the-plumber-arizona-driver-license-suspended/

I wonder if the authorities in OH will take action now

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Dianna,
Even my Republican husband (with autographed photos with Bob Dole, Ronald Reagan and GHWBush) voted STRAIGHT TICKET DEMOCRAT this year. He isn’t ready to change his registration from Republican, but he passed on the RNC this year as well. He has had enough. Maybe next time around, I can get him to change his registration as well. It is rather irritating, because we get calls/letters/people from both sides…and my switching to Republican ain’t happening…

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:27:26) :

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, isn’t he a great speaker? He got me fired up. He does nothing for me physically, though.
————————————-
I don’t grow weak at the knees looking at him, but he could talk me round in five minutes flat just talking economics.😀

30 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

I’M so sorry! That was a terrible thing to write on my tenth wedding anniversary!😀

30 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

Dianna, thanks. I needed the push. I can’t sleep waiting for this election to be over. It’s really messing with my mind. I never thought in my lifetime that I would see a black man…I promise I will finish this thought next Wednesday. Who knows? Maybe a woman of color or an LGBT person will be a candidate by the time I die!

I know how you feel. It is 2:30 here and this happens every night, my mind won’t shut off because it is the what if….
If we stay organized, I believe we can break through those barriers. I know we can, actually. Confident here.

30 10 2008
Dianna

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (23:28:25) :
Dianna,
Even my Republican husband (with autographed photos with Bob Dole, Ronald Reagan and GHWBush) voted STRAIGHT TICKET DEMOCRAT this year. He isn’t ready to change his registration from Republican, but he passed on the RNC this year as well. He has had enough. Maybe next time around, I can get him to change his registration as well. It is rather irritating, because we get calls/letters/people from both sides…and my switching to Republican ain’t happening…

I’ll bet you and your husband have had some interesting “conversations” in the past. What sent him over, exactly?

30 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Aussie, thanks.
Who is the crazy person who thinks if people can’t afford insurance, they can get Medicaid? HUH? And thinks $5000 will pay for insurance for people who can’t get Medicaid? HUH?

The Medicaid limits are very low for adults, and most states require that a person be disabled or have no income with a child to get it. VERY FEW adults are eligible for Medicaid.

And our family coverage, for my husband, my teenage son, and me, is $1700 a MONTH. And we have to pay $1000 deductible for anything other than doctor visits and prescription drugs. PER PERSON. SO if we have an ER visit, lab work, etc, we have to pay the first $1000, plus 10%. I had a stroke 14 months ago and we are still paying it off.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein, aw, happy anniversary! There is nothing wrong with appreciating the intelligence of another man. Yeah, spin it that way to the hubby.

For me, Joe Biden is that guilty pleasure. I love his smile.

Dianna, where you at? It’s about that time for me, too. I just can’t deal with my mindset changing. If we can be this close to such a historic event, who knows what else I might witness in my lifetime? It blows my mind.

30 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

I really like the little spot on the left sidebar at fivethirtyeight.com
where they call SP “A Neiman Marxist.”

Off to dreamland. Voting in the morning.🙂

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

I only have catastrophic insurance. I sliced my finger a couple months ago, and it wouldn’t stop bleeding. I seriously considered stitching it up myself to save money, and I would have if it hadn’t been on my right hand. Instead, I went to an emergency clinic and hoped it wouldn’t cost TOO much. I took out the stitches myself.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein, you go! Good luck with the voting. May it be smooth and true blue.

30 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

I am in MS. I keep checking on that little EV map in the right corner and am tickled pink by MS being pink. A big step for this state.

30 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (23:35:36) :
HAPPY TENTH ANNIVERSARY! You can celebrate on Tuesday night!

Good morning all! I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, hate waking up in the morning, coming here and seeing all I’ve missed!

First – Joe the air-quotes plumber : It says a lot about the McCain-in-the-@ss campaign that they are using this guy – unlicensed, owing back taxes, now suspended driver’s license, obviously uneducated guy to campaign for them, practically join the ticket (maybe as official mascot). After the election, maybe he and SP will be sharing that jail cell both haiving been convicted of tax fraud.

It’s gonna be amazing, the Repub Party bloodbath that ensues when they lose this election BIG TIME! McCain’ll go commando, outing all of those who forced him to choose SP thus blowing his one chance to be Pres. The pro-Palin neo-cons against the neo-con-Obama-supporters who smeared McCain and shamed their own party, The moderates who were originally represented by McCain against, well, the rest of them. The pro-Palins against the anti-Palins (she lost us this election). Bloodbath! And the good thing about it is that they’ll be so busy imploding that Obama/Biden will be able to move quietly ahead with taking back our country.

SP’s stupidity : I think most of those real stupid slips are her own. Just proves day in and day out how uneducated she is and how she will never understand that she doesn’t understand. I must say, tho, that she did look momentarily thrown off by the boos. Understood something was wrong, but did she ever figure out what? And if so, who did she blame on that one?

30 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:46:05) :
I only have catastrophic insurance. I sliced my finger a couple months ago, and it wouldn’t stop bleeding. I seriously considered stitching it up myself to save money, and I would have if it hadn’t been on my right hand. Instead, I went to an emergency clinic and hoped it wouldn’t cost TOO much. I took out the stitches myself.

This is ridiculous that people don’t have the basics. Oh, let’s spend some more on that d@mn war, though.

30 10 2008
Dianna

Jamie, Floridian in France (23:49:20) :
@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (23:35:36) :
HAPPY TENTH ANNIVERSARY! You can celebrate on Tuesday night!

Good morning all! I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, hate waking up in the morning, coming here and seeing all I’ve missed!

First – Joe the air-quotes plumber : It says a lot about the McCain-in-the-@ss campaign that they are using this guy – unlicensed, owing back taxes, now suspended driver’s license, obviously uneducated guy to campaign for them, practically join the ticket (maybe as official mascot). After the election, maybe he and SP will be sharing that jail cell both haiving been convicted of tax fraud.

It’s gonna be amazing, the Repub Party bloodbath that ensues when they lose this election BIG TIME! McCain’ll go commando, outing all of those who forced him to choose SP thus blowing his one chance to be Pres. The pro-Palin neo-cons against the neo-con-Obama-supporters who smeared McCain and shamed their own party, The moderates who were originally represented by McCain against, well, the rest of them. The pro-Palins against the anti-Palins (she lost us this election). Bloodbath! And the good thing about it is that they’ll be so busy imploding that Obama/Biden will be able to move quietly ahead with taking back our country.

SP’s stupidity : I think most of those real stupid slips are her own. Just proves day in and day out how uneducated she is and how she will never understand that she doesn’t understand. I must say, tho, that she did look momentarily thrown off by the boos. Understood something was wrong, but did she ever figure out what? And if so, who did she blame on that one?

I’ve thought that, too, about McCain losing it. He doesn’t seem wrapped real tight.

SP is in her own reality show.

30 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Dianna, Missouri? Did I get that right? Glad that you are turning pink. Would be really glad if you turned cornflower.

Yeah, I am for a graduated plan where everyone has basic coverage, and then you pay more the further up you go. No one should die from something that is easily preventable. No one should have to choose which finger he’d save (a clip from Michael Moore’s Sicko), the ring one for twenty thou or the middle one for sixty thou. No child should be going hungry….but I am a hopelessly lefty socialist.

Morning, Jamie, Floridian in France, always glad to see you dropping into the Mud. I hope you are right that the right are too busy cannibalizing each other that they won’t be resolute enough to block the progress that Obama and Biden will have to make in order to move us forward. I hope.

31 10 2008
Dianna

Heading to bed. Enjoyed being here with all of you.

31 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Damn. There I go again with my rampaging stylin’s. Sorry folks! I will not attempt coding for the rest of the night.

As for McCain, there is no way he could serve under Pre–um, you know. It would be toxic.

31 10 2008
Dianna

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

In Mississippi and heading for bed. You have a goodnight and talk to you tomorrow. Enjoyed talking with you.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Thank you, Jamie and Asiangal, for your good wishes. It’s actually Halloween here today; my husband chose the date so that he would never forget our anniversary.

re Joe the Plumber – there’s even more. He has had judgements against him in Mesa for eviction from a rental property, and non-payment of debt. Further, he lived on KEATING Avenue – yup, same Keating.

Joe the Plumber proves the saying, “If you can’t be a good example, you’ll just have to be a horrible warning” …..

31 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Dianna, night. Me next.

31 10 2008
Peter

Honestly I think this incident is… completely and utterly irrelevant. Why does the MSM cable news spend 5 minutes an hour on something like this when there are so many important things going on in the world? Anyways, Obama has this in the bag unless the Bradley Effect is real and of major influence on the results, which is extremely doubtful. The election is almost already old news and it hasn’t even happened yet.

31 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Damn, Dianna. I am an ignoramus. Forgive me. Good night.

31 10 2008
ira2

Ugh. *Shudder*. I had a bit of “ugly” overload today what with all the stupidity and hostility out there, so it seemed like a good idea to do some laundry and clean house. That didn’t quite do the job (I’m still cranky), so I’m editing photos and wallowing in beauty tonight. Or trying to anyway. Man… don’t you wish there was a way to make McUglyBarbie pay for what they’ve been subjecting us to?

Anyway. Back to the pictures. Beauty. Serenity. NOW, DAMMIT!!!

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:58:29) :

Cannibalizing – yes, that was the word I was looking for… or somthing like it. Thanks.

I think that a Halloween wedding would be terribly romantic!

Joe just keeps getting better and better, but that seems to characterize their whole campaign, doncha know? How many days do we have left? 6? Between SP who keeps getting stupider and more and more rogue, McCain desperately trying to keep that scary grin on his face and convince himself and the world that all is a-ok, Joe the Plumber proving himself as felonious (is that a word?) as Ted Stevens and as SP may find herself one day, the fudged medical records, the true Mccain medical records, the non-existent but possibly existent damaging info the ADN has – when is it really going to implode or explode?

31 10 2008
AKaurora

Another Sarah speech gaffe when she tried to connect Obama to a second terrorist, Rasheem Khalidi. She called him Kaladi. Remember when she misquoted Madeline Albright from a Starbucks cup? For those outside of Alaska, Kaladi Brothers Coffee is fresh roasted right here in Anchorage. Maybe she’s homesick for a cup of the local joe.

31 10 2008
Dianna

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (23:35:36) :

Happy 10th!! Sorry that I missed that. My eyes are crossing now.

And how befitting, McCain and Joe the non-plumber, with the Keating tie.

McCain’s Folly.

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

Before I moved here, I didn’t know anything about MS other than it was south of me and had alligators. lol.

31 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

I’ll bet you and your husband have had some interesting “conversations” in the past. What sent him over, exactly?

Diana,
It started with Katrina.

He was so furious that he hated Bush with a passion. People dying, babies not having access to clean water, “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job”, having a birthday party while people were being raped and murdered in the dome. He voted for some local Democrats in 2006.

He gave up on Bush at that point, and it was like a lightbulb went off. Homeless mentally ill because Reagan closed the institutions with no follow up. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy. The war. Our daughter joining the Army. Bush’s jokes about WMDs while kids are coming home in caskets. It all just hit him over a period of time. He respected McCain, but makes fun of “Maverick” and refers to the Seinfeld episode where George tries (in vain) to make a nickname, T-bone, for himself. (He actually calls McCain T Bone now.) His pick of Palin sealed the deal. He believes that McCain is suffering from early dementia and Palin will be President. He hates the way their campaign is going, with slamming Obama and not having any sort of plan, and instigating bigotry and violence.
The final nail, for him, was when McCain put “airquotes” around the health of the mother in an abortion. We had to have an abortion in the fifth month of a wanted, planned pregnancy because I had hypertension so badly that I was risking kidney failure and dialysis until I could get a transplant if I continued the pregnancy. It was horrible, heart-wrenching, and not something that should have been dismissed like that. NO woman wants an abortion at 5 months. NO woman takes it casually. I miss her almost every day, and wonder what life would have been like with her. We named her Alice Francesca. If there were any way we could have saved us both, we would have. We couldn’t. She was too small, and we didn’t have time to develop her lungs. We had to decide quickly, but there really wasn’t a decision to make. I had two kids at home who needed me. He was more angry than I was about McCain’s dismissal of “health of the mother” and his eagerness to outlaw abortion in all situations. He wanted to scream at him.

So…probably TMI, but he will never vote for a Republican again. Funny how you can be pro-life until you are in a situation like that…we loved Francesca, but my life was more important.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Something for you Georgia gals from ajc.com

“Republicans will offer candy to trick-or-treaters in Gilmer County tonight, they’ll wave signs for John McCain across Forsyth County on Saturday, and they’ll rally in a park in Macon on Sunday.

Barack Obama volunteers, meanwhile, have 175 locations around the state where teams will work in three shifts a day to go door-to-door, conduct phone banks and generally work to get out the vote.

The final push is on, and with early voting ending today, the emphasis shifts to Election Day Tuesday.

“Obama has a real shot to win in Georgia,” former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland said Thursday. “The race is closer than people think.”

WARNING: Don’t accept candy from a Republican – especially if it’s red!

31 10 2008
Dianna

Jamie, Floridian in France (00:17:42) :
@asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:58:29) :

Cannibalizing – yes, that was the word I was looking for… or somthing like it. Thanks.

I think that a Halloween wedding would be terribly romantic!

Joe just keeps getting better and better, but that seems to characterize their whole campaign, doncha know? How many days do we have left? 6? Between SP who keeps getting stupider and more and more rogue, McCain desperately trying to keep that scary grin on his face and convince himself and the world that all is a-ok, Joe the Plumber proving himself as felonious (is that a word?) as Ted Stevens and as SP may find herself one day, the fudged medical records, the true Mccain medical records, the non-existent but possibly existent damaging info the ADN has – when is it really going to implode or explode?

OMG. I need to sleep but I read your post and just kept laughing.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Dianna, one of my BFFs is from MS. Her great-uncle is a well-known activist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_D._Campbell

31 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Wasn’t Sarah supposed to release her medical records,”early this week”? Umm…it’s FRIDAY.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Something for you Georgia gals from ajc.com

“Republicans will offer candy to trick-or-treaters in Gilmer County tonight, they’ll wave signs for John McCain across Forsyth County on Saturday, and they’ll rally in a park in Macon on Sunday.

Barack Obama volunteers, meanwhile, have 175 locations around the state where teams will work in three shifts a day to go door-to-door, conduct phone banks and generally work to get out the vote.

The final push is on, and with early voting ending today, the emphasis shifts to Election Day Tuesday.

“Obama has a real shot to win in Georgia,” former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland said Thursday. “The race is closer than people think.”

WARNING: DO NOT accept candy from a Republican – especially if it’s red!

31 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Joe the Plumber should be called Joe the Dead Beat from now on. To commemorate his failure to pay taxes, fines and his failure to show up on the job (at the McCain rally).

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@ Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (00:36:51) :

Wasn’t Sarah supposed to release her medical records,”early this week”? Umm…it’s FRIDAY.
—————————————-
That’s only what her mouthpiece said. Mouthpiece may be looking high and low for Dr Disappearo.

But then – maybe not.😉

31 10 2008
Dianna

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

OH, my heart goes out to you. How very painful. I am sitting here absorbing your story and this is just heart wrenching. I am so so sorry.
This is where I wish I could reach in and hug you.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Steph, that’s the worst agony. We lost our little miracle, Patrick, but there was no risk to me.

I tell myself there could be no such thing as heaven if it didn’t include babies.

And I wait patiently.

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (00:30:57) :

It is amazing that so many of us have gone through such tragic experiences. I so feel for you and your husband. Things like this open our eyes to a lot of things, of what is important, of what is needed, of what we expect to have access to. It is incredulous that there are Repubs who think that having access to an abortion – or any other medical procedure – in this day and age, in a country as medically and technologically advanced as the US – should be denied. And those air quotes around “a woman’s health” as if caring about the life of the mother was just something Barack made up on the spot was despicable and show’s exactly what McCain thinks of women – aside from how he treated his first wife, how he has treated Cindy in public, choosing plastic toy Palin as running mate, it all tells so much about him.

Every time Mc repeats lies about Obama and Obama’s record, lies that have been debunked over and over again, also shows Mc’s true colors and how little he is owed any respect.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@eajphd Molten Contra Palin (00:40:42) :

Joe the Plumber should be called Joe the Dead Beat from now on. To commemorate his failure to pay taxes, fines and his failure to show up on the job (at the McCain rally).
———————————————
I bet the only reason he’s not wanted for unpaid child support is that he has custody.

He’s unspeakable, really, isn’t he?

31 10 2008
Dianna

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (00:36:38) :
Dianna, one of my BFFs is from MS. Her great-uncle is a well-known activist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_D._Campbell

Thank you for that info. When I lived in Ohio I was very active with Oct. 22 (fights against police brutality), Anti-Racist Action group and a few others. My best friend’s son was murdered by an off-duty swat team officer. He was shot 15 times and that enraged me into action. He was a Seminole boy that was very much part of my family. When I moved to MS, I thought I would continue with the activism but never met anyone.

31 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Dianna, I’m sure you have learned by now that the Deep South is a completely different kettle of fish.

31 10 2008
Dianna

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

It started with Katrina.

He was so furious that he hated Bush with a passion. People dying, babies not having access to clean water, “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job”, having a birthday party while people were being raped and murdered in the dome. He voted for some local Democrats in 2006.

I was here in MS during Katrina. FEMA’s ineptitude was an atrocity but the people from all over this country were amazing. The help was continual and I know so many kept coming back at their own expense. There were so many compassionate selfless people that travelled here and will never be recognized.

31 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

“Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (00:50:38) :
I bet the only reason he’s not wanted for unpaid child support is that he has custody.”
It makes you wonder what his ex was like if the court thought he was the better of the two parents.

There is an interesting blog about him that suggests all sorts of other stuff at http://theobfuscationreport.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-plumber-nope-joe-tax-dodger.html

31 10 2008
ira2

FEMA… I wonder if programs/organizations like FEMA will get a serious overhaul under Obama.

31 10 2008
Dianna

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (01:00:02) :
Dianna, I’m sure you have learned by now that the Deep South is a completely different kettle of fish.

During the Edgar Ray Killen trial, Mississippi seemed to want to dispel its reputation of being racist. This would be printed in newspapers about how MS had changed but I am here to tell you, this just isn’t so. Sure, they haven’t lynched anyone lately, but there is some serious hardcore racism down here.

31 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

Dianna (01:04:12) :

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

It started with Katrina.

He was so furious that he hated Bush with a passion. People dying, babies not having access to clean water, “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job”, having a birthday party while people were being raped and murdered in the dome. He voted for some local Democrats in 2006.

I was here in MS during Katrina. FEMA’s ineptitude was an atrocity but the people from all over this country were amazing. The help was continual and I know so many kept coming back at their own expense. There were so many compassionate selfless people that travelled here and will never be recognized.

I’m glad to hear about the people who helped and Brown. I believe that Katrina was a natural disaster made into a holocaust in that the Lower Ninth Ward levee in NOLA was bombed by Blackwater. This was a concentration camp experiment by Bush-Cheney. There’s lots on YouTube about the concentration camps they are building in the U.S.

31 10 2008
ira2

Somebody explain this to me, please… if the pro-life people want to forbid an abortion to save the life of the mother, and the mother dies, how is this “pro-life”? Or if pre-natal tests show that the baby won’t be able to survive after birth, how does making the mother go through the whole process of pregnancy and labor and giving birth just to have her baby die in her arms (or more likely in an intensive care crib) correspond to “pro-life”? It doesn’t make sense, it’s cruel, it’s inhumane, it’s wrong.

It brings tears to my eyes to think what some people are going through and then, on top of the heartbreak, have to deal with the spoutings of morons who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

31 10 2008
Dianna

ira2 (01:10:43) :
FEMA… I wonder if programs/organizations like FEMA will get a serious overhaul under Obama.

Hopefully, but Brown was replaced. I don’t know what other changes have been made.
A good read, though, is The Great Deluge.

31 10 2008
Dianna

I think there are people STILL living in the formaldehyde trailers provided by FEMA. This was in the news during Gustavo.

31 10 2008
Glenn2008

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (22:47:19) :

“You know who else needs to be put out of my misery? Joe the Fake Plumber. Please. You have GOT to be kidding me!”

Just wait:
Palin/Plumber 2012

His experience in pipelines goes hand in hand with Sarah’s drill-baby-drill background. Strong on energy independence.

He does not appear to wear glasses so he would be a great veepee to see Russia. Strong on national security.

Does not pay his taxes. Strong on fiscal policy. And, importantly, does not spread his wealth around.

The McCain/Palin dream ticket has just become the GOP’s nightmare. Joe The Plumber can take it to new depths.

Until 2012 he will be busy getting country recording deals:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15072.html
Could someone wake me up, please?

31 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

ira2 (01:22:39) : “pro-life”

It has nothing to with being “pro-life” and everything to do with “submitting to the will of God”. It’s interesting how the philosophies of radical Islam and radical Christianity and all of the other radical Orthodoxies come back to being radical patriarchalism.

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ira2 (01:22:39) :

Exactly! Well said!

It’s been said before, but these pro-lifers are also the ones who are anti-gun control and for pre-emptive war, for a heavy trigger finger and anti-diplomacy. But yes your point is stronger.

Watching Larry King and shudder every time one of the Repug talking heads tries and explain Mc’s flip-flops and lies about Obama’s policy. And Ben Stein lauding Mc’s hero personnage – “This man suffered for YOU!”. This man didn’t suffer for me – he suffered because he couldn’t follow instructions, went rogue and got himself into trouble. Then lied about his POW conditions.

31 10 2008
Dianna

eajphd Molten Contra Palin (01:36:19) :
ira2 (01:22:39) : “pro-life”

It has nothing to with being “pro-life” and everything to do with “submitting to the will of God”. It’s interesting how the philosophies of radical Islam and radical Christianity and all of the other radical Orthodoxies come back to being radical patriarchalism.

Well said.

31 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

There can never be anti-abortion legislation that disregards the health or life of the mother, a deformed baby, or as a result of rape or incest at ANY POINT during gestation. The vast majority of women I have met and spoken with don’t take abortion lightly. No one gets pregnant to experience an abortion. Don’t airquote my rights to live over my daughter’s right to live. She understands.

31 10 2008
ira2

@ eajphd Molten Contra Palin (01:36:19) :

Yeah, no kidding… makes me wanna throw up. If they were true followers of the beliefs they try to press upon others, I’d be more tolerant of them. But they aren’t… they don’t walk the talk. Frauds and liars is what they are.

31 10 2008
ira2

Come to think of it, has Palin made any statements about whether or not she’s in favor of the death penalty?

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

291 – 163 EV : that’s CNN Poll of Polls state to state count today!

31 10 2008
ira2

Whoa. It’s after 5 a.m. here… gotta get my fanny to bed for a few hours! (Where did the time go??)

I’ll take those poll numbers along as a bedtime treat :o) Thanks, Jamie!

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@ira2

Good question. But in her couple of only interviews, I remember the only questions that she answered outright, no long, drawn-out gibberish were 1) should Roe v Wade be overturned : YES, 2) should assault weapons be outlawed : NO.

Someone who thinks this – plus the “if your 12 year old daughter was raped by a relative, should she have the option to abort the baby (paraphrased)… – of course believes in the death penalty.

Another really annoying thing – watch Cindy (I earn 4 to 6 million dollars a year) McCain behind him whenever he talks about the economy and not raising taxes. Watch where she nods her head – yeah! I don’t want MY taxes raised!

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Good night ira2, always glad to be the source of good news and a smile.

BTW, I finally watched Barack’s speech and the Alfred E. Smith dinner and he was brilliant! Clever and so funny! Watch that again before you fall asleep.

31 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Jamie, Floridian in France (01:37:51) :
“And Ben Stein lauding Mc’s hero personnage – “This man suffered for YOU!”.

Gee Jamie, you’re having difficulty accepting the idea that John McCain was crucified for you and came back to the United States to live a redeemed life of public service in which he cast aside his old ways, including his old wife.

This pseudo-Christ narrative has been a driving part of his campaign. It helps mark him out as the Christ to Obama’s anti-Christ. It puts Sarah in the role of Mary Magdalen, a woman with failings, whose great faith saved her through her commitment to serve her Lord by witnessing for him after he is no longer among the faithful. Of course, they don’t really want to claim John is the One so Sarah becomes Deborah or Esther as needed.

If you find this hard to visualize all you have to do is look at Fred Thompson’s oratorical performance at the convention. In it he described John McCain’s descent into sin, as a prodigal son, his suffering at the hands of his enemies, who hang him by his arms, his return to grace through seeing a guard make the sign of the cross in the earth. All of this renews his faith in God, while a fellow prisoner making a makeshift flag renews his faith in America.

Ever wonder why Sinclair Lewis said “when fascism arrives in America, it will be carrying a cross and wrapped in the flag”?

31 10 2008
DrChill

Good morning…

I don’t want McCains choice (sp) to go away. I want her to go on to bigger things, and sink them too. I want the GOP to embrace her as the new face of the new GOP. I want it to fail on its own merits.

Maybe then the GOP will find a soul, and run honest candidates.

Then, someday, I can go to the voting booth, after long debates about which candidate is excellent, and which is merely very good.

31 10 2008
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Oh yuck – the Palin plane just landed in Latrobe (home of the Arnold Palmer Airport), PA – let’s see if she praises the town for being the home of Tiger Woods!

31 10 2008
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Geez, she’s holding a rally in Latrobe at 6:30 AM!! OOps, I don’t have time to get there, darn it all!

31 10 2008
Chaim

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin,

Your story of having to abort your baby at five months was moving. I hope you realize that almost all “pro-life” advocates would agree that someone in that situation should be permitted to have an abortion. McCain put “air quotes” around “health of the mother” because it has been interpreted to include mental health, which is so subjective that it practically means abortion on demand. Before Roe, all states permitted abortion to save the life of the mother, and as long as there was a legitimate health risk, a doctor’s judgment would not be questioned. McCain was being grossly insensitive, but I’m sure he knows that continuing a pregnancy sometimes endangers the mother and he was not intending to ridicule people like yourself. He forgot he was not addressing a conservative/anti-abortion audience that would have understood what he meant. I’m not voting for him or suggesting that you vote for him, just trying to reduce polarization and anger here.

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@eajphd Molten Contra Palin (02:12:46) :

Gee Thanks eajphd for enlightening me! I guess I didn’t see it because I am Jewish! No wonder SP’s church don’t like heathens like me!

And what crossed my mind the first time I heard that SP was repackaging herself as Esther (a Jewish Queen) was “Gee! Isn’t that Madonna’s kabbala personnage, too?”

And a nod to Sinclair Lewis. I noticed that a very long time ago, when GWB first wrapped himself up in the American Flag and raised the cross high above his head and pretended that it made him invincible.

31 10 2008
Martha Vancouver B.C.

This is the most accurate description of Sarah Palin I’ve come across ;

a bubble headed mystery unto herself

Whatever happened to the progressive party of Abe Lincoln? oh yes, now I remember. It was hijacked by hate filled racists, religious wing-nuts, casting out witches, speaking in tongues and preparing for the end of days. North to Alaska is the current anthem.

After this election is over, what will they do? The hoods are off and the emperor has no clothes.

With any luck Susan Eisenhower with her group and Colin Powell will form a progressive Conservative party.

I love the Democratic Party, but every country needs checks and balances.
I respect conservatives and appreciate some of their ideals, I’m speaking of the Susan Eisenhower, Colin Powell variety.
They are intelligent and thoughtful, they really proved to “put Country first”.

I can’t imagine the deflation and disappointment they must feel at this time.
Cheers to them for being who they are, and I really hope they form a new party for themselves.

The rest can join Sarahs Salvationtionists, They will seek to abolish abortion, sentence gays to a pray away prison, stop the fruit fly studies, get rid of birth control, bring back segregation before they bring back slavery, and if they are really fired up, a pregnant teen in every house! Who needs a chicken in every pot? Why that is just socialist!

31 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

New thread!

31 10 2008
disgustedfemale

Of course she was booed…
In Western Pa…Erie…you are either for the Pittsburgh or Cleveland, NOT Philly …any idiot would know that

Erie is also overwhelmingly FOR Obama

31 10 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

I didn’t go through the comments because i’m behind and trying to catch up, but I just said something to my husband last night about this. Probably the same thing the post and comments have already said. Why isn’t she studying her info folder on the bus between stops? That should be a given. Here, Sarah, read up on western Penn. That’s our next stop. Here’s the map, here’s the facts, here’s the trivia, etc. Learn it you doofus. And it was even a SPORTS faux pas. From ms ex-sportscaster who said winning a basketball championship was the changing moment in her life (ugh, that’s her problem right there).

31 10 2008
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31 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (00:30:57) :
Thank you for your moving story. No woman makes these decisions lightly, even in situations that do not involve the health of the mother. I am happy that you were able to choose life, your life. I am also very sorry for the loss of your little girl. I know it is something that you never truly get over, as I lost a pregnancy before I had my boys. Your children are lucky to have such a strong mother.

31 10 2008
GT

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Rashid Khalidi is An American-Born highly respected, widely published professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. His ancestry is Palstinian and he is a supporter of an independent and viable Palastinian state — something most nations, including the United States are also in support of. Khalidi is neither e terrorist, nor a terrorist sympathizer.

31 10 2008
mary (aka Shank Piston Palin)

AKaurora:

I’m sure this has been said before, many times, but it cannot be said too often.

Rashid Khalidi is not, and never has been, a terrorist. He does not now support, and never has supported, terrorists. He is PALESTINIAN – Palestinian-American, to be precise, and is a respected and well-known academic. I have read some statements of his and have heard him speak on PBS. BTW, he’s not even Muslim (not that it would matter if he were.) He comes from a well-known and respected Christian family from Jerusalem.

So what we have here is Palin sliming a good man’s name, and lying about him, in order to bring down another good man. It’s loathsome. But prejudice and ignorance about the Palestinian people and what’s really been done to them is so great in this country that this horrible tactic might actually work, at least for some voters. And that infuriates me.

31 10 2008
mickeymusing

Re: Khalidi,

We knew that the GOP universally despises Muslims and associates them with terrorists. Now it appears that Palestinians share the same fate, based on their ethnicity rather than their religion. If supporting pro-Palestinian causes makes you a terrorist, than the United States is a terrorist state. Our policy towards the creation of a Palestinian state is woefully inadequate, but it IS our policy–just like it is Khalidi’s. His contention that the US is biased in favor of Israel is simply the truth–not anti-Semitism (btw, the term Semite refers to all people, including Arabs, in that region–not just Jews. The term is a reference to their shared language, not Jewish ancestry. It is actually Palin and her ilk who suggest that there is something inherently wrong with Muslims who are anti-Semites).

31 10 2008
mtnmama

You guys should vote NO if this is poll is still going!!!!! http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

31 10 2008
Mary Wehrle

Amazing that she would think that “Drill, Baby Drill!” would work here. She is clearly on the side of big oil companies and not at all concerned with our environment OR jobs for the rest of America. I live in Ohio and support alternative energy sources. I am baffled as to why Sarah Palin, John McCain or any other politician would not support solar, wind and geothermal energy. These industries create jobs, create energy and support our environment. To me it’s a no-brainer.

31 10 2008
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin

This just in:

The Juneau, AK paper just endorsed McLame.

http://www.JuneauEmpire.com

What a crock!

31 10 2008
Joy from Wisconsin aka Chisel Dustup Palin

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (21:52:52) :

She always thinks the boos are cheers. Because she is a narcissist. That’s just how they are. Ultimately, her children will be the victims, as evidenced by Track and Bristol. I really like Piper, so I hope that child can be salvaged by being pawned off on grandparents or the State of Alaska or something.
__________________________

Narcissists often victimize their children and other family members but heck, they will victimize anyone available and who is more available than immediate family? However, with children of Narcissists the tendency is often more likely that the children will also be Narcissists.

I don’t know enough about Track to say that’s the case with him. I don’t see it at all in Bristol who always appears rather sad looking and rather self-effacing in public. Willow…I don’t see it but she does spend an awful lot of time with her mother campaigning. Trig…for obvious reasons I can’t see him becoming a Narcissist but Piper…yikes!

I see Piper appearing in public way too much with her mother, waiving to the crowds like a Junior Princess Diana (although the little girl obviously doesn’t understand exactly what’s going on around her). Piper spends way too much time on the campaign stump (used by her mother because Piper is so darned cute) when the child belongs at home with her grandparents or aunts and should be in school. I see on Piper’s adorable little face how much she’s enjoying and really getting into all of this fawning attention from press and rabid fans of her mother and I fear she could easily grow up to be just like her mother.

31 10 2008
Actongue

Wow these Palin folks are quite Absurd in how they think This is from a Facebook app for Palin
Quote
We conservatives need to BOYCOTT liberal news outlets and liberal news papers. Most have cable. I don’t. But that will not stop me from never watching another biased interview by Katie Couric and the like ever again. I will not tolerate irresponsible “news” reporting.
end quote

Granted most of us have by now know this is awhile back but still I am cofused by

1 How asking a question like
What newspapers you read makes it a biased interview
2 What experience do you have in foreign relations is a biased question.

31 10 2008
Dorothy Raheemah

Dear AKM – whew, you don’t mince words, but it’s done so kindly! Thank you for a fresh perspective from Alaska – I’m definitely staying linked.

2 11 2008
Sarah of AZ

Oh God, Palin is so painful to watch. The gimmicky things she says over and over and why does she have an accent sometime and not others. She seems to turn that folksy thing on and off at will and did she really giggle about killing animals while thinking she is talking to some head of state?

4 11 2008
tim

I was at the rally in Erie. She was not booed!! I have video on my camera to prove it!!!




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