Ted Stevens. End of an Era.

27 10 2008

An hour has passed since hearing that Ted Stevens was found guilty on all seven counts, and I have finally been able to coax my jaw into a closed position. After having had the opportunity to discuss the verdict with several fellow Alaskans, I can describe the universal reaction as: stunned. Even those who were happy, were happy through a filter of disbelief, and a realization of the gravity of this verdict. Alaskans regard Stevens, who has been in power since Chrismas Eve 1968, as much more than a Senator. For many, it is as if the elves at the North Pole just learned that Santa was convicted on seven felony counts of reindeer abuse, and selling unsafe toys.

It’s hard to dispute the fact that Stevens has worked hard, and was a stubborn advocate for his fledgling state when he took power. He brought much to the state that anyone with a lesser constitution would never have been able to pull off. And now, stalwart Alaskan icon Ted Stevens has become a frail, almost dottering, 84-year old convicted felon. The mighty have indeed, fallen. So, it is with a mixture of sadness and elation that even Progressive Alaskans view the outcome of this trial.

Power has corrupted. Arrogance has become karma. Justice has been served.

All that said, I have little doubt that Stevens has not been cowed by this experience. It’ll take more than a few goddam lousy felony convictions to get to “Uncle Ted.” Remember, this is the guy who wears Incredible Hulk ties on the floor of the Senate. This is the fist-pounding, curmudgeon that just told Democratic challenger Mark Begich he was “crazy as the Devil” during their latest debate. Ted will not go quietly.

Expect him to go full steam ahead with his campaign. Expect an appeal of the verdict. And expect a few more good chapters of the Ted Stevens story before this is all over.

And, on the other side, expect many many Alaskans to vote for him anyway because that feel that either:

A) This is a trumped up charge and some part of a vast left-wing conspiracy to take down the Alaskan Republican Party or

B) He’s done a lot for the state, all politicians are corrupt anyway, and he deserves a little gravy for all he’s brought to Alaska.

Be reminded that there is nothing legally stopping a convicted felon from running for the Senate, and nothing stopping Alaskans from voting him into office. He can, however, be politely asked to leave by a 2/3 vote of the Senate.

I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that Democratic challenger Mark Begich will win this seat. The most recent polls have the candidates in a dead heat, with Begich showing a statistically insignificant one-point lead over Stevens. Unless there’s a huge unanticipated pity vote, this verdict will tip the election in Begich’s favor.

After witnessing politician after politician in Alaska ride off into the sunset to various private prisons scattered across the Lower 48, we are all struck with that old adage that “power corrupts”. I chatted with Mark Begich the other day and asked him how he was doing. He said he was hanging in there, but that these last few days felt like a lifetime. The next time I see him, I’m going to ask him how he is doing. Then I’m going to grab his tie, and pull him forehead-to-forehead. Then I’m going to look him square in the eyes from two inches away and say, “Don’t. Screw. Up.” The Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the white knights, and restore a modicum of respect to Alaskan politics. But power corrupts unless we are on our guard….however many years, or decades we hold elected office.

So Mr. Begich, be wise, be careful, and treat the Senate seat with care. Actually after four decades, I think you’re going to need a totally new seat. After 40 years, that one is sporting a permanent Stevens butt print, and we need a fresh start.

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27 10 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

first

27 10 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

she says sheepishly

27 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Congrats fawn!

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Overheard in the attorney room off the US Federal Courthouse, Ted Stevens present with lawyers.

Stevens, “Well, crap, you jerkoffs didn’t get me off!!! I told you VECO was willing to pay off those dopes. Why the hell did you screw this up so bad??”

Stevens Lawyer, “Teddy, calm down, you knew damn well you were hosed. They had mountains of evidence against you and you were gonna fry, they don’t like you much”.

Stevens “Well, what do we do now? I don’t really feel like dying in prison.”

Stevens Lawyer “You know you gotta play your ace in the hole and get them to serve no time if you roll”

Stevens, “You think that’s the only choice”?

Stevens Lawyer, “Damn straight, you ain’t got no options left, Teddy”

Stevens looks down and nods.

Stevens Lawyer pulls out his cell phone and puts it on the desk and dials a stored number..

US Attorney’s Office: “Hello, we’re off partying as we fried that dirtbag, Ted Stevens.. WHOOHOO!! We’re a tad busy, celebratin, so don’t bother us now, unless it’s REALLY important, like you’re ready to push someone bigger under the Straight Talk Express.. beeeeep

Stevens Lawyer “This is Teddys lawyer. We’re ready. We’re got the records, VECO and the witnesses. We’re ready to push Palin under the bus. Call me back, lets deal!”

27 10 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

aw, gee, thanks, judi…

27 10 2008
Grace RN NJ

Kudos to mudflats-beating swords into keyboards, spreading truth where lies live.

Kudos to the Ancorage Daily News for having the guts to endorse Obama.

You folks are dispersing the stench of filth from your air.

You folks rock.

27 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

I think we could all chip in and get him a brandy new chair!!!

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

I agree with Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT. After all, who wants to sit in someone else’s butt print?

27 10 2008
jackie

now if we could just do the same with the bush, cheney, rumsfeild crowd…oh wouldn’t that be a happy day…good for you alaskans, dont’ care what the rest of texas says…you’re alright in my book.

27 10 2008
Sparky

A big key for Dems to stand firm, proud, tall, whatever, is to disregard things Repugs call us…nasty things…you know what they are. Backbone, no matter what. Remember the cartoon a fews days back AKM provided?

Obama: “I’ve been called worse things on the basketball court.”
Biden: “I learned a long time ago that you can call me almost anything.”

These gentlemen are great leaders, and I chose with great heart to listen to what they have to say, and watch how they are conducting themselves.

I personally am very very proud. I am not afraid.

27 10 2008
Susan

You mean to tell me that he can still hold his Senate seat even though he’s now a convicted felon???
Felons cannot vote until their rights are restored but they can be in the Senate?
Wow…

27 10 2008
Lulu

Arrivaderci, Ted!

27 10 2008
mde

I hope he didn’t already vote absentee!

27 10 2008
portland oregon native

WAAHHOOO!!!!!
I hear the news on NPR on my way home this afternoon after turning in my 97 year old mother’s mail in ballot…for Obama!
I am de-lighted! Stevens deserves what he got, big time!
What will SP say now?

27 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Hmmmmm I wonder if Uncle Ted regrets pushing this verdict to be done before the election….. I bet.

27 10 2008
C.Rock

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (15:05:33) :
Do you happen to have that pie crust recipe that was going around ? If so can you print it out for me . Thanks

27 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Hope you get a really nice and understanding Cell Mate, Teddy!

OT: Did anyone notice Tweety’s “I voted sticker today”?

27 10 2008
Blue Idaho
27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Oh god.. here’s Heather.. psycho supreme..

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

@Ripley… you never cease to amaze me with all of your talents🙂 So glad I “know you!”

27 10 2008
Frank aka. Lier Skunk Palin

They are already saying Steven’s is going to lose.

27 10 2008
Dazzler

Thanks Alaska for taking another one on the chin for the rest of the US. Hopefully Alaska’s Republican house of cards will fall one by one…I sure hope this smears all over Palin…whether she’s tied to him or not….

27 10 2008
Bill

Interesting to see Sarah Palin’s comments, which seem to toss Uncle Ted under the bus, too. ABC News reported it thus:

Before boarding a plane in Virginia Monday afternoon, Alaska Governor and Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin commented on the verdict, calling it a “sad day” for Alaska, Stevens and his family, but added that “the verdict shines a light though on the corrupting influence of the big oil service company up there in Alaska that was allowed to control too much of our state.”

Palin vowed a continued fight against corruption in her state, and said she’s confident that Stevens “from this point on will do the right thing for the state of Alaska.”

27 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Likewise, Nebraska…. likewise.😉

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

C.Rock (15:09:42) : The crust is a secret recipe from InJuneau, you can ask her🙂 It’s hers and we have been reluctant to post it without her permission… Back to regular programming…

27 10 2008
whabs

I absolutely adore this blog and it’s author.
Again I say, one person can make a difference and what a difference you have made.
A blog award isn’t enough…
AKM…what ARE you going to do come 5, November 2008?

27 10 2008
Blue Idaho
27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Lets be real mudpups..

Palin is shakin in her Jimmy Choos that Stevens will rat her out to get a lighter sentence..

27 10 2008
Dazzler

Susan, not all states prevent convicted felons from voting. Illinois allows felons to vote, just not inmates. It’s a state decision and there’s been a lot of discussion recently about abolishing this law among some states…after all, there are so many ex-felon politicians it would be in their best interests to rescind these laws….LOL

27 10 2008
Frank aka. Lier Skunk Palin

I an pretty sure I was first. Guess I’m gonna have to check this voter fraud thing out.🙂

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

I would like to think that Uncle Ted could expose some of Sarah’s snafu’s but he would be pilloried by the religious right, does that matter to him?

27 10 2008
R. Trinket Palin

Whew. Can’t get used to having events turn in the direction I’ve wanted them to. I second AKMuckraker’s Dont. Screw. Up. to be said to every Dem winner this year, every one. And the plain truth is that when one party becomes entrenched, trouble is likely to ensue–I’ve seen it in my own district, where guys I know have gotten sloppy, cut corners, assumed that because they’re such good guys, working so hard, it won’t matter. Now their constituents are dissatisfied and voting them out. If power is truly shifting to the Dems, how do we stay focussed and drive ourselves?

Just so used to being the opposition!

27 10 2008
C.Rock

Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (15:13:03)
Thanks….I understand….Thats the right thing to do.Did not mean no harm.

27 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

In response to this comment from Palin:

“As governor of the state of Alaska, I’ll carefully monitor now the situation and I’ll take any appropriate action as needed.”

I commented on the forum that this sounded like she was conceding the election and wondered if she’d told McCain she was doing so.

27 10 2008
mde

Dazzler – This will tell you what the state laws are for felons voting:

http://felonvoting.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=286

Stevens won’t be voting for himself :o)

27 10 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

So now it appears that Scarah has been “palin” around with corrupt
republicans?

27 10 2008
mudslide pike

Her is the question with the oldest Republican going down on corruption charges after 2006 how many Republicans with go down with him? and with close ties between Sarah and Uncle Ted will Alaska go BLUE?

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Blue Idaho (15:14:06) : Is there a republican alive that can take some personal responsibility???? (Besides Chuck Hagel, and they don’t like him after he disagreed with Dubya)

27 10 2008
FlipptyWA

Hi all,
This would be my first blog I have EVER wrote to!!!! I would never had found this one if it hadn’t been for “Failin”. That said Is it just me, but why is a NORMAL convicted criminal or someone with a dishonorable discharg, has no voting rights on one little vote…but someone in congress -who’s one vote can change the world, can ?

27 10 2008
Aeroentropy aka Bash Budweiser Palin

AKM – this post was absolutely supreme. We can all jump around and be happy about this downfall, but yes, Senator Stevens was quite the force for us in AK for a long time, and not always off compass. I’m with you (mentally) in telling Begich if he is handed this important opportunity, it better go well.

27 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

On the felon thing: the Framers intentionally left the the determination of right to serve in Congress to each of the houses. I believe this was to preclude the possibility that State governments might try to play games with the eligibility of members. The Senate can expel any member with a 2/3 vote. There have been few felony convictions in either house, so there isn’t exactly a lot of precedent, but I doubt that Stevens would be even considered for expulsion until he exhausts his appeals, if any.

The disenfranchisement of felons is, BTW, done by each state.

@Nancy (14:52:45) :
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Thanks, Nancy. I should have just gone to Snopes. Duh.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

C.Rock (15:17:14) I knew you meant no harm, I didn’t want you to think we were blowing you off… just watch for her and ask her🙂

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Wonder if she’s had private meetings with a convicted felon also. She could have even discussed the beginning of her career with a convicted felon, something Bill Ayers never has been.

27 10 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

Blue Idaho

Ha I beat you to it on the last thread. Great story.

27 10 2008
EDC

Just wondering: can convicted felons vote in AK?

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

It is my dearest wish that the Democrats, if they do take all three branches of office, will actually work together to work through so many issues that got tossed by the wayside over the last eight years. It’s the idealistic streak in me which I have yet been able to drown with my more concentrated cynicism. Please, please, please, Democratic Party: Don’t. Screw. Up.

C.Rock, yeah, what Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein said. I don’t have it, anyway, as I don’t have the energy to be that productive.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Marty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good one!!!!!!!!!!!!

27 10 2008
mde

EDC – see link above at (15:17:37)

short answer is No.

27 10 2008
FlipptyWA

But why is a NORMAL convicted criminal or a dishonorable discharge has no voting rights on one little vote…but someone in congress -who’s one vote can change the world, can ?

27 10 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

Hello FlipptyWA.

27 10 2008
banjobailey

I’m thinkin’ that the good people of Alaska are goin’ to have a big sense of compassion for Uncle Ted. Think of it? Why should they go along with a Federal jury’s verdict, after all? Think of all the millions and millions and millions of dollars that Uncle Ted has given Alaska since 1968? Nineteen-sixty-eight, for God’s Sakes! 1968? The Viet Nam war was still going on, for God’s sakes. Still he brought money home. (Any for Alaskan veterans? Just asking.)
Uncle Ted is 84 years old. Are Alaskans gonna desert him now in his hour of need? Why should they? They have a Governor who is a nationally recognized star of the Republican Party and they know themselves to be NOT of the lower 48, and therefore, why should they pay any attention whatever to any Federal jury’s verdict? So, sayeth your Governor. And, so sayeth Republicans everywhere.
As Ted, himself, might say, “it’ll be a cold day in hell before I GO TO JAIL.”

27 10 2008
mde

FlipptyWA – Because the Constitution doesn’t forbid it.

27 10 2008
portland oregon native

Now the Repugs are calling Sarah a “Diva”…of Denali?
Isn’t there an ice floe someplace with her name on it?

27 10 2008
FlipptyWa

Ok, I’m a bit new at this , sorry for the DBBL post

27 10 2008
ocliberal

I don’t think Palin threw Stevens under the bus. In fact, I notice that once again she had every opportunity to distance himself and declare herself

RICHMOND, Virginia (CNN) — Sarah Palin said Monday Sen. Ted Stevens’ guilty verdict “is a sad day for Alaska.”

“This is a sad day for Alaska and a sad day for Senator Stevens and his family,” she said on the tarmac at Richmond International Airport. “The verdict shines a light on the corrupting influence of the big oil service company up there in Alaska that was allowed to control too much of our state. And that control was part of the culture of corruption that I was elected to fight, and that fight must always move forward regardless of party affiliation or seniority or even past service.

“As Governor of the State of Alaska, I will carefully now monitor the situation and I’ll take any appropriate action as needed. In the meantime, I ask the people of Alaska to join me in respecting the workings of our judicial system and I’m confident that Senator Stevens from this point on will do the right thing for the people of Alaska,” she said.

Palin did not respond when asked if she will vote for Sen. Stevens next week and promptly boarded her campaign plane.

That is the 2nd time she chose not to answer.

Palin is a Steven’s protege. Everything she learned she learned at Uncle Ted’s knee.

She ran her lt Governor’s campaign with $5000 in donations from VECO herself.
http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/8162137p-8054973c.html

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

FlippityWA, welcome to Mudflats. Jump right in, the mud is fine!

I actually don’t think people who are ex-felons should be barred from running for Congress or applying to other jobs, but I do object to them actually serving in Congress whilebeing a felon. That just doesn’t seem right to me.

27 10 2008
Frank aka. Lier Skunk Palin

Susie in Jersey (15:17:33) :

In response to this comment from Palin:

“As governor of the state of Alaska, I’ll carefully monitor now the situation and I’ll take any appropriate action as needed.”

I commented on the forum that this sounded like she was conceding the election and wondered if she’d told McCain she was doing so.
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She also said the other day about giving back the clothes, when she goes back to Alaska.

27 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

Howdie Do!!

Great news but know it’s not over. Hearing scheduled for Feb 2009 well after the election as to I guess appeal motion etc. But — I hate to possibly rain on your parade — What are the chances that Bush pardons him prior to his leaving office — Pretty damm good unfortunately. With the GOP in shambles — it’s no skin off Bush at this point.

Now we will be watching Mudflats for the saga of the Palin house!!!

And you all thought you would be in election withdrawal after Nov 4th. I think Alaska will be providing some interesting entertainment in the future!!

27 10 2008
portland oregon native

Come to think of it the ice floe solution could be the answer for Sen. Stevens.
It’s cheaper than prison too.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

FlipptyWA (15:22:43) :
Because our forefathers in their wisdom guided by principles and ethics and in line with the constitution and with the laws, and also looking at all the options and exercising, in that respect, of the legal thought at the time, and of the times we are in, also.

My goodness, I can speak Palinese too! Huked on fonics werked for me!

27 10 2008
mde

I couldn’t figure out why Stevens pushed for a quick trial. But now I’m thinking that maybe it was so the trial would be done before Bush leaves office. Crazy?

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

OCLib… i am sure whatever Palin learned, she learned SITTING *ON* Teddy’s knee..🙂

27 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

someone on the earlier thread mentioned Bush pardoning Teddy but I don’t think he could do that before January 20. How can you pardon someone who isn’t sentenced yet? Ted’s pardon will have to wait at least 8 years … likely he won’t still be around then. With any luck at all, he’ll also lose his Senate pension and Senate health care.

27 10 2008
Flex Gunship Palin

So… what’s the Anchorage airport’s name going to be after this?

Felon International, or what?

27 10 2008
Dianna

Has anyone started a compilation of Palinisms?
Remember the Bushisms?

“It’s clearly a budget. It’s got a lot of numbers in it.” 5/5/00

“Actually, I… this may sound a little West Texan to you, but I like it. When I’m talking about… when I’m talking about myself, and when he’s talking about myself, and all of us are talking about me.” 5/31/00

27 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

@rank aka. Lier Skunk Palin (15:25:23) :

Susie in Jersey (15:17:33) :

In response to this comment from Palin:

“As governor of the state of Alaska, I’ll carefully monitor now the situation and I’ll take any appropriate action as needed.”

I commented on the forum that this sounded like she was conceding the election and wondered if she’d told McCain she was doing so.
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She also said the other day about giving back the clothes, when she goes back to Alaska.

Thank you – I’d not heard that one. Yep, sounds like she’s come to the realization that she’ll be headed back north, to Alaska.

27 10 2008
jwa-Cheney Hussein Palin

what a hoot image – forehead to forehead – Don’t screw up.

It’s great.

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Queen Palin International? Airport Code PAY ??

27 10 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

Isn’t it odd with all the crap about Ayres who has been an asset to the community (never convicted) for many years yet they (republicans) would let Steven’s (convicted) remain in office?

27 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

Taupe Armageddon Palin
Bush pardoned Libbey, did he not??

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Clinton had fun playing with pardons, too. *sigh*

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

How can one not pardon someone named Scooter?? He’d never survive even in a Club Fed installation..!

27 10 2008
empish

No fail pie crust
2 cups flour, one cup shortening, cut with pastry knife until cornmeal consistency.
1/2 cup milk, plus 1 tbsp vinigar, zap 30 seconds and stir into flour mix.
make into two balls, and chill before rolling out.

27 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

er, that was “Frank aka …..”

27 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

LOL @ Nebraska…. *clap clap clap* at your grasp of Palinese. Well done, weedhopper!

27 10 2008
mde

Taupe Armageddon Palin (15:30:02) :

I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that once he is convicted he can be pardoned, regardless if he’s been sentenced. I don’t know.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Um Marty… you are not helping my keyboard issue…

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Sorry nebby🙂

27 10 2008
C.Rock

empish (15:34:27)
Thanks ………now i will make that sweet Obama pie.

27 10 2008
mudslide pike

Ted is no different then the pardon he gave to what’s his name sorry I can’t remember for Plamegate. He was convicted but never served a day. So yes this was important to get convicted before Bush left office.

27 10 2008
Lana, KY

Sorry if I’ve missed it but when is the Penalty Phase of this trial ?
Is his penalty just up to the Judge ?
Even though he is guilty ~ I’d hate to see the old fart go to prison.

27 10 2008
Flex Gunship Palin

Taupe Armageddon–there’s a nasty precedent smear that Ford left when he pre-emptively pardoned Nixon. If one can receive a pardon before being indicted, certainly one can receive a pardon for crimes for which one’s been convicted of, even if the sentence hasn’t been handed down. The pardon just needs to waive the penalty entirely….

Of course, that precedent isn’t fixed in law, it’s never been tested.

Bush could pardon him. But… why would he bother? I don’t expect to see it.

Legally speaking, pardons are issued and accepted. Ted intends to appeal, to “clear his name.” Accepting the pardon means accepting the conviction. Now, what that would mean to the Alaskan electorate (were Bush to offer it and Stevens accepted it before Nov 4)… damned if I know. I think Stevens is toast, electorally, at this point.

27 10 2008
empish

oops, forgot the salt! 1/2 tsp

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

I dunno if Bush is close enough to Teddy to grant a pardon.. Also, the stuff Teddy did was criminal and defrauded the Alaskan Government and the people Of AK and the US.

Very different than the civil issues than why he pardons Scooter, etc..

I’d be a surprised if Bush further erodes is already crappy legacy by pardoning someone who cheated America. The cases aren’t even close to being the same and one pardon doesn’t equate simply letting Teddy off the hook.

27 10 2008
More Light Than Heat

If I remember correctly, W didn’t pardon Libby, he commuted his sentence. Big difference. The conviction stands. Libby got dis-barred. Ok, he doesn’t do time in the big house, but he’s pretty well cooked otherwise. After all, W owed Libby BIG TIME for falling on his sword for W and Cheney. I’d be surprised if he owes Teddy like that. AKM?

27 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

I am just young enough that AK and HI have “always” been states in my mind. It’s hard for me to properly appreciate that Stevens has been a Senator for 80% of the time Alaska has been a state. I’m sure that for a lot of Alaskans he is just a fact of life, like Denali.

One can hope that even some of those who think he deserves some slack, because of the barrels of pork he has sent up north over the years, will consider whether he can continue to be such a successful advocate at age 84-90, with a felony corruption conviction, in the minority party.

Frankly, if he does win the election, the most politically nasty thing the Democrats could do would be to not expel him, but block him from vice-chairmanships, etc.

27 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

More Light Than Heat (15:39:53) :

If I remember correctly, W didn’t pardon Libby, he commuted his sentence ….
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More precisely, W has not yet pardoned Libby.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

I selfishly would like to have that seat in the senate though… with the caveat… don’t. .mess. this. up.

27 10 2008
Frank aka. Lier Skunk Palin

Susie in Jersey (15:34:28) :

er, that was “Frank aka …..”

A Rose by any other name………………..

27 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Uncle Teddy:

PLEASE take that “butt print” with you, while exiting with tail tucked.

No one has an @ss that big to fill it!

I hope you are listening Mr. Begich! Take care of your position and make us Dem’s very proud.

27 10 2008
portland oregon native

Yup yup….Teddy wants a Bushie pardon.
After all, didn’t Nixon pardon was it Casper Weinburger? before he was even charged with anything.
I think Sarah could be connected too. After all, who paid for her house?

27 10 2008
More Light Than Heat

@ strangelet
Point taken. He’s not gone yet… and his pardon pen is still in his possession.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Oh my, Sarah is getting bad press, whoever said Stevens would sell her down the river called it correctly…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/stevens-conviction-could_n_138316.html

27 10 2008
NoCalGal

AKM thank you for your op ed. I can see how this is a bittersweet day for Alaska. Stevens DID do a lot for the State and has been an advocate for you. It is hard when your heroes become tarnished or when the glamor wears off. The fact that they self inflicted the Tarnish is no salve.

So, as a concerned citizen, we are glad when corruption is rooted out. And hubris will be their undoing.. but it comes at a cost. Perhaps innocence.

And yes- to ALL who will be taking new seats in the White House and the Congress.. we hold you to your oaths, and your word! We do not expect you to always succeed- but we DO expect you to try your hardest- and to be honest. It is not so much to ask, and it is EVERYTHING.

So, Stevens should have quit while he was ahead. He should bow out now, even if he appeals. It is time. He should know it.

But thank you for your insightful evaluation. Good luck to Alaska.

27 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

This is the only place I know of on the internet where you can get smart, informative, funny, timely reports and spell-binding fairy tales (AKM); insightful commentary and useful links (mudpuppies), and recipes for PIE!

27 10 2008
FlipptyWa

Please AK DO NOT VOTE IS SOB BACK IN …. He will be on the “A” list for a pardon

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

You guys are all missing the key issue about a Bush Pardon.

Teddy did CRIMINAL stuff.. He took bribes and payola with regards to gifts and his house remodel..

The names you keep tossing out were for political issues, NOT Fraud or bribes or payola. There is a HUGE difference between these types of issues and types of things that were judged in court.

I don’t think you’ll find many congressional people convicted of accepting money illegally that have gotten pardoned or have had sentences commuted.

It would be like Bush pardons Son of Sam. That won’t happen. And I seriously doubt he’ll pardon Stevens because of the TYPE of crime he was convicted of. If Stevens had been convicted of a civil issue or something related to house ethics rules, he might get pardoned, but not for accepting money.. That is too far out there for a Pres to pardon teddy..

I think because of his age, service to the country and his Alaskan popularity, Bush could COMMUTE his sentence on humanitarian grounds, but to simply pardon him like he did nothing wrong simply won’t happen..!

27 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Tired Mom – re Wilson on Chris and my previous post – This time she didn’t just catch you smoking in the girl’s restroom.

She wasn’t snarky and seemed chastened; no smug superior smile.

She is usually My Husband Can Have You Audited.

As I said then – a felony conviction tends to erase that smug smile.

27 10 2008
Shutterbuggery

Will Stevens have the courage to fly back to Alaska, sit at his desk in the study, reach into the top drawer to pull out the Colt Python .357 and shoot himself in the head? Spare us all the drama and go out like a man?

27 10 2008
NoCalGal

Flex Gunship Palin (15:36:53) :

–there’s a nasty precedent smear that Ford left when he pre-emptively pardoned Nixon. ”

I well remember this pardon. At the time I was OUTRAGED. Nixon was a crook and should have paid for it etc.

But later, I heard Ford say he did it to spare the Country the grief and further rendering that such a trial would have caused. And you know, I think he was right. I think that trial would have been horrendous for the USA. Maybe not like the French Revolution- whith heads literally rolling- but bad enough.

I guess we can never really know. But I do believe Ford did what he thought was best for the country, knowing that he had ended his political career forever. That is a sacrifice too.

27 10 2008
kimosabe

Oh cynic that I am, I am gonna take AKM’s bet. Ted will be re-elected. He has so much seniority, such plum committee posts, and is owed so many favors, that felony conviction or not, he can still bring home the bacon, the extra fatty kind. Alaskans know that; almost every one can point to an Uncle Ted project right in their own neighborhood, big city and Bush alike. As good a man as Begich may be, he would have zero clout, low man on the old totem pole. No bacon. And besides, re-electing Uncle Ted would be one more way to stick it to the flatlanders, one of Alaska’s favorite sports.

27 10 2008
snow leopard

Alaska law: As a convicted felon, Stevens will not be able to vote for himself in the coming election….

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/27/185137/07/722/644050

27 10 2008
TheraP

Truly, I offer my condolences to Alaskans. No matter which side of the aisle, this must be a very sad day. What shameful year for a great state. And I can only hope that a clean sweep will be made, including the Senate seat on election day and your governor somehow being shown the door.

27 10 2008
SE_Idaho_Reader

It’s been reported that SP gave an impromptu press conference this weekend, but I haven’t seen a report on what she said. Anybody have a link to the coverage? Thanks.

27 10 2008
Rockinthebase

This happened to us in Chicago about 20 years ago with a big powerful guy named Rostenkowski . They got him on the petty stuff too. That is what they usually convict them on. Realizing like Al Capone, that there is plenty of big charges against them, but getting the conviction on something that is surer in order to get a conviction.

We got rid of him fast and quick. The writing is clear and on the wall. Why vote for him and look like you are in denial or ignorant?

27 10 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

Obama Pie
3 cups intelligence
2 cups wisdom
2 cups integrity
A dash of humility and empathy
Mix well and put in favorite crust

Serve and enjoy.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Please, no death for anyone. Let the bad guys hang around and try to explain themselves. it makes for interesting Countdown and Rachel Maddow shows. Also, IMHO

27 10 2008
NoCalGal

Senate Seat succession:

So how does it work in Alaska? Governor appoint? Could she appoint herself?

Someone suggested Beau Biden be appointed to Joe Biden’s seat in Delaware…

27 10 2008
empish

akm, im fretting over the pie crust recipe. please add 1/2 tsp salt for me. ( and I will endeavor not to post frivolously again, though tis tempting)

27 10 2008
WV Democrat

Shoot we may see Bush pardoning Cheney and others and then stepping down and letting President Cheney pardon him. You know, war crimes and such. It certainly wouldn’t surprise me because with Dems coming into power, there are gonna be many things that come to light about the Bush Administration as soon January 21, 2009, or right before.

27 10 2008
Pom

Sorry to jump in here. One thing I did look up not long ago is that a pardon is acceptable for anyone except for someone who’s been impeached. (Think Nixon and why he quit rather than to go through the impeachment process – it wasn’t nobility!)

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Barbie is so incredibly talented, she could stay Gov AND be VP.. she can do it all.. She’d hire an admin to run Alaska with Todd since The first dud wouldn’t be able to get a sec clearance anyway..

No need for someone not elected gov to run the state.. That’s just petty and silly.

And she can be VP, since she knows the VP doesn’t ACTUALLY DO anything..

sounds like a plan to me..!

27 10 2008
empish

akm, im fretting over the pie crust recipe. please add 1/2 tsp salt for me. ( and I will endeavor not to post frivolously again, though tis tempting)

27 10 2008
NoCalGal

Obama’s latest speech (at the end)

Be Inspired on this bittersweet day Alaskans! Yes, we can!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_K8SvhItZg&eurl

27 10 2008
Melissa

I hope that Alaskans vote Stevens out of office.

CQ Politics has Alaska leaning Democratic in the Senate race.

27 10 2008
ocliberal

I don’t care if Ted Stevens goes to jail. But I do care that a corrupt politician was lawfully convicted! It’s about damn time! Let this be a message – loud and clear!

And once again, Palin is not doing what one would expect from the reform Governor is she now?

Where is her outrage at Stevens? Why is she not demanding he resign? Instead she is talking in Palinese doublespeak and feeling ‘sorry’ for the old coot because he let’s face it – he got caught!

Not only doesn’t she demand a regisnation and an apology, she can’t even say she isn’t going to vote for the convicted felon!

Seriously, when does this woman get hers???????? I mean, come on! IS SHE FOR REAL?????

Let’s look at that house of hers! Just because she did away with building permits and changed the zoning zones, someone knows something. Houses don’t build themselves. Someone should talk to those two contractors who got screwed out of the bidding process for the sports center. They might have a story to tell.

I bet Palin isn’t feeling really good right now. There could be a feeling of dread starting to descend on her. She probably believed Uncle Ted was invincible. This was probably more shocking to her than it was to AKM!

Look I’m not trying to dump on a mother of five. But I do not want this woman anywhere near my goverment! She respresents everything I despise in a politician. I despise her right wing zeonut ideology and I loathe her hate-filled rhetoric.

Just get her out of politics!

27 10 2008
Trini

Hey FlippityWA: Welcome!

I think there are many bases for appeal and he will probably take them. Note to SWWNBN: it is not a sad day when true justice prevails! It is a day to rejoice. Oh wait, too conflicted? Oh dear.

27 10 2008
NoCalGal

WV Democrat (16:00:00) :

Shoot we may see Bush pardoning Cheney and others and then stepping down and letting President Cheney pardon him. You know, war crimes and such. It certainly wouldn’t surprise me because with Dems coming into power, there are gonna be many things that come to light about the Bush Administration as soon January 21, 2009, or right before.

in the US of A- maybe. But not the WORLD COURT in the Hague…

27 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

She’s back to wearing her own clothes from her favorite consignment shop, can I say this, “Out of the Closet”?

27 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Let me throw this out: ordered overnight delivery from a company called zazzle (not related, no connection to me) – a tee shirt, the front of which says We Won. On the back, in small print, a list of all the presidents of the US – and of course at the end: Barack H. Obama.

I live in a Very Red part of Virginia (in more ways than one) and I plan to go all over town on the week (or month) after the election wearing this.

Proud of all of us; we made this happen.

Obama made us believe we could.

27 10 2008
Blaster Commando Community Organizer in Cecily

Dozens Of Call Center Workers Walk Off Job In Protest

By Greg Sargent – October 27, 2008, 5:18PM

“Some three dozen workers at a telemarketing call center in Indiana walked off the job rather than read an incendiary McCain campaign script attacking Barack Obama, according to two workers at the center and one of their parents.

Nina Williams, a stay-at-home mom in Lake County, Indiana, tells us that her daughter recently called her from her job at the center, upset that she had been asked to read a script attacking Obama for being “dangerously weak on crime,” “coddling criminals,” and for voting against “protecting children from danger.”

Williams’ daughter told her that up to 40 of her co-workers had refused to read the script, and had left the call center after supervisors told them that they would have to either read the call or leave, Williams says. The call center is called Americall, and it’s located in Hobart, IN…

The script coincided with this robo-slime call running in other states, but because robocalling is illegal in Indiana it was being read by call center workers….”

27 10 2008
Blaster Commando Community Organizer in Cecily

Good on ya, Indiana call center workers. I bet you could have used the money, but put ethics above a dollar. Makes us proud.

27 10 2008
Blaster Commando Community Organizer in Cecily

Call Centers: McCain/Palin job program…

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

What is it with these old men (Stevens & McCain)? My Mom’s 86 and she’s much more flexible and less judgmental in her ‘young’ age. These guys seem to get just more and more rigid. Don’t they see it’s not working for them? I don’t want these two anywhere near my democracy.

But I do feel sad for him. Everything good he did (and I’m sure there are some things) have been forever eclipsed by the bad he did.

Shutterbuggery (15:54:33) :

No.

27 10 2008
Blaster Commando Community Organizer in Cecily

Is someone working on the Trowell Ogre International sign???

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Sorry, that last paragraph sucked grammatically. I miss the edit feature.

27 10 2008
Dragon Lady

To Blaster and questions to VA voters –

in the last week here in VA I have received 3 full color flyers from the MCain camp. One on Ayers. One on Barack Soft on Crime (you don’t want to know) and one on Rezko. “You don’t know Barack Obama” theme.

With only $24MM left in the coffers, this is it.

27 10 2008
Farmall

How about this scenario. Stevens wins the election; hangs on until after the new Senate is sworn in; then resigns; and Palin appoints herself to take his seat. I sent my contribution to Begich today!

27 10 2008
WV Democrat

@ NoCalGal

Yes, that could happen but I don’t look for it to. I would revel in it, of course, but I don’t think it will ever happen.

27 10 2008
Dianna

Obama Pie
3 cups intelligence
2 cups wisdom
2 cups integrity
A dash of humility and empathy
Mix well and put in favorite crust

Serve and enjoy.

NEVER THIS:

Scary Sarah Mousse

1 lb. stupidity
1 lb. arrogance
Add heaping tblsp. of lies for flavor

Top with 3 dollops of corruption

Whisk and Serve with a six pack.

27 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein ProAmerican Goodwill Shopper Palin

Just FYI: from what I can tell, a felon in SC has their right to vote restored upon the completion of their sentence and/or probation.

27 10 2008
B in MA
27 10 2008
FlipptyWa

Stolen from Fark comment and from Reddit:

Prison isn’t like a big building – it’s more like a series of cubes!

27 10 2008
SMR

There is hope! Read this about phone center workers walking off the job rather than read out slimy GOP talking points:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/dozens_of_call_center_workers.php

27 10 2008
NoCalGal

I dunno WV Democrat.. I hear Rumsfeld won’t leave the country for just that reason… and I suspect if Cheney travels, it will be to places with no extradition.

Obviously it would be embarrassing (humiliating) to the United States if our leaders were indicted for such things… but if it is the truth- then justice must be served. And it will be a black day for America- but no blacker than the day of the first death at Guantanamo or Abu Graihb…

If we are going to be the example of justice, democracy, liberty etc. we may have to face some very unpleasant moments in the years to come.

27 10 2008
BS

To Sarah: Thanking you also down there for making so many of those good, hard working Republicans jump ship. Also with your palling around with Ted the Senator and helping to turn these good, hard working Alaskans red to blue. Thinking you would be famous and instead infamous there. Reading the newspapers in front of me also – you’re toast. Also some Russians waved at me while I was there in my living room and shouting NYET also. God bless you also there.

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Watching KO – he has a veritable buffet of topics for us to sup on tonight!

27 10 2008
Catherine

Shutterbuggery – your comment is offensive. Using a .357 Colt Python is no measure of a man – I suffered the effects of a man who did (suicide survivor)and it is very harmful to anyone and everyone. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and should not be advocated because one feels shame, failure or any of the other reasons people use for taking their own lives. People can learn and carry on.

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

SMR – I was just reading the phone center article, too. With us all in the giving mood – I was actually thinking of starting a little fund to reward these folks for having some scruples. As minimum wage earners in this economy – that really took something extra to lose their pay.

27 10 2008
polarbear

Those of us who have been around for awhile have come to recognize the feeling of an historical event about to unfold. It feels as though the gravity of the coming nine days has been marked at the beginning with Ted Stevens’ conviction. Time is slowing down a bit now. Forces have been building up around the political tectonic plates for a long, long time, and now comes the earthquake as the plates reallign. A pyramid of power built up around Ted Stevens over the years, and now the pyramid is crumbling, all while a powerful transformational national election rolls to its inevitable end. A sense of unreality began today, and I still feel it. Things seem a bit distorted, and it feels as though a great victory is building in the wind, gathering strength, soon to sweep over us.

27 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Polarbear,
Very nicely done.

27 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

AKM why do the people on 650 Keni want Stevens to stay? Why do they want to continue vote for him? He is a felon! What is wrong with those people! Sarah Palin call for him to resign now!

27 10 2008
Dianna

Polarbear,
I hope it sweeps right on down to the lower 48 with a big gust of power.

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Cynthia, Barbie won’t ask Teddy to resign.. She knows he has a pocketful of secrets he’d just love to donate to the Feds if she pisses him off..

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Wisdom has it that we need to watch next Tuesday for the votes in Indiana, Kentucky, Georgia and Virginia. These states will end at 8 EST, MSNBC etal are based in NYC and are on Eastern time too, so if these states can be called when those polls close, the election can be called, and it just remains to see how much of a landslide it will be. And I am about to throw up with the anxiety of waiting…

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

And— HAVE YOU ALL VOTED???????

27 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Yes, I am in Texas and I voted last week! The lines were so long on Monday I had to wait until Friday and guess what the lines were still long!~!!!!!

27 10 2008
grapevinemesagraphics

Quote: ““Don’t. Screw. Up.” The Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the white knights, and restore a modicum of respect to Alaskan politics.” uq

Well said! Further, I think it needs to be said, and repeated often, to any/all Democratic winners this election.
A “golden opportunity to be the white knights” … and a limited amount of time to make those first moves proving that, in fact, they are so. The last midterms sent a pretty clear message from the electorate that “sumpin needs to be done about the war(s) and Bush”, and then two years pass…and “this” is off the table…don’t rock the boat…”that” would be devisive… Damn right it would! But that was the point. Be devisive, rock the boat, but get off the stick. It’s looking very much like the votes will be there, now let’s have some initiative.
So repeat it to all the Democratic winners:
Don’t. Screw. Up.” You have a golden opportunity to be the white knights, and restore a modicum of respect to AMERICAN politics. DO IT!
Or it could be a very short four years.

27 10 2008
White Agate

Amazing news about Sen. Stevens. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. But I see how this is truly a ‘sea change’ for Alaska politics.

No doubt Sarah Palin is hearin’ some footsteps.

I share AKM’s concerns about good Dems and not screwing things up…I was making calls in a Republican area here for our wonderful Dem state senator, and one woman told me how union members like her husband were being forced to support Obama. I think Pelosi and some others are looking at forcing open ballots in union voting. These bad processes aren’t good for anyone.

It’s all about good governance, as we know. And standing up for what’s right, like those callers who walked out today.

Andrew Sullivan has a good post from a reader that shows, I think, how we lost our way in 2000 and 2004…this articulates what I have been feeling for many years. He had reposted a NYT piece about conservatism and its direction at that time, and how a realignment was inevitable.

‘Thanks for reposting your and Chris Caldwell’s pieces from ’98.
Now, here’s something shuddering to contemplate: The American people knew this instinctively as early as 2000. Remember, the public — the narrow plurality of the people — voted for a continuation of the moderate “Eisenhower balanced-budget Republicanism” of the Clinton years. But for various factors — Ralph Nader, Gore’s poor campaigning, Florida hanging chads — that’s what the public would have gotten in 2000. Of course, 9/11 then grafted the “fear/security” component onto the Republican message. That essentially made a Bush re-election possible.

It took the 2000 election and 9/11 to create a “fluke” administration — disastrous as it has turned out to be. But the American people knew what the correct direction of the country should be in 2000. Just think of where the budget/debt alone could be…No wonder it’s beginning to look like a landslide in the other direction. The will of the people can only be be withstood for so long.’

This is exactly how I feel, adding to that how much progress we could have made with regard to energy/green tech. And I think no Iraq, no lives lost in that way.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (16:44:44) :

And— HAVE YOU ALL VOTED???????
————

I HAVE! And in Georgia, I predict it’s going to be a bloodbath (at least for Saxby Chambliss). VoteVets new ad may be the biggest ‘bad thing’ that’s happened to Saxby.
And it’s a killer.

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

VA doesn’t have early voting, only absentee with excuse..

Stupid, i know..

Besides.. I want to push the O button on Nov 4.. Can hardly wait..!

27 10 2008
wired differently

I wouldn’t be writing Uncle Ted off just yet. He has vowed to appeal, he definitely has plenty of other tricks up his sleeve, and even if Begich doesn’t screw up we’d be putting ourselves way out on a limb to predict what the voters of Alaska will do with this race.

I think I am willing to put some money on Berkowitz, though.

Next Tuesday can’t come fast enough for me.

And for some reason I’m thinking about pie a lot these days. Maybe it’s those charts on 538…

27 10 2008
rf11 in FL

@Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin (15:10:55) :

Oh god.. here’s Heather.. psycho supreme..
_____________________________________________________________________

Marty, have you seen Heather go up against, the congresswoman from Miami, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz? I’ve seen them debate a couple of times on Msnbc. Heather’s eyes are glazed over, while Congresswoman Wasserman-Shultz takes on her lies and doesn’t let up.

27 10 2008
austintx

Poodle has to be careful…….Uncle Ted knows where ALL of the dead bodies are buried in AK………..the GOP is eerily quiet………they are all scared…..every candidate that took money from Northern Lights PAC should return it IMMEDIATELY!! NLP is Uncle Teds piggy bank !!! McDoofus has 5k !! Poodle has said “walk the walk”………start the drumbeat………” RETURN THE MONEY “

27 10 2008
Flex Gunship Palin

Pom–the presidential power of pardon does indeed extend to any crime against the United States (other than cases of impeachment). Of course, there’s a profound legal question–does that cover crimes after commission or after conviction? In the former case, it would seem that Bush could wave his magic wand and announce the pardoning of all crimes committed, whether they’d been discovered or not. The understanding prior to Ford’s pardon was that conviction was required, first; after that, the president could issue a pardon. It doesn’t clear you of the crime, it simply pardons you.

Think about it in a normal setting. Do you turn to someone at the table and pardon them for some social faux pas before it’s been made?

Shutterbuggery–ick. No. It’s wrong to call for someone to go commit suicide.

NoCalGal

“I well remember this pardon. At the time I was OUTRAGED. Nixon was a crook and should have paid for it etc.”

So do I, and so was I.

“But later, I heard Ford say he did it to spare the Country the grief and further rendering that such a trial would have caused. And you know, I think he was right. I think that trial would have been horrendous for the USA. Maybe not like the French Revolution- whith heads literally rolling- but bad enough.”

I disagree. I think it would have been unpleasant, yes. But the downside is that the abcess was never lanced. People whose crimes ought to have been laid out were allowed to slide back into the body politic and into the political system. I might be persuaded that AFTER those revelations were made, and the people were aware of how seriously and extensively the nation and law and Constitution had been violated, it might have been a gesture of magnanimity to pardon them. But only after they’d been branded for what they were.

Instead, Cheney and Rumsfeld and others came back to haunt us–and did even more harm the second time around.

“I guess we can never really know. But I do believe Ford did what he thought was best for the country, knowing that he had ended his political career forever. That is a sacrifice too.”

It’s awful easy to take the relatively easy path and announce that it’s for the good of the nation. Here, forget about it and we’ll all be better off…. It’s kind of like “Go shopping!” Sure there were a lot of us furious. But a lot of people went to sleep–and I don’t think that the pardon itself was the cause of his failing to win election to the office. As sacrifices go… I think Ford sacrificed the country’s longer term good for the good of his party and a national nap to forget the nightmare… while the abcess festered.

27 10 2008
rf11 in FL

Bec Hussein in Illinois (16:32:07) :

SMR – I was just reading the phone center article, too. With us all in the giving mood – I was actually thinking of starting a little fund to reward these folks for having some scruples. As minimum wage earners in this economy – that really took something extra to lose their pay.

___________________________________________________________________

I agree. What a great way to reward ethical behavior! As you said, their actions went above and beyond, especially given our economy and the rising unemployment rate. I’m so impressed with these people!

27 10 2008
rf11 in FL

Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (16:44:44) :

And— HAVE YOU ALL VOTED???????

________________________________________________________________

Yes! I voted early in Florida last Friday!

Chuck Todd (NBC) reported this morning that Obama now has a path to victory that doesn’t require a win in Florida or Ohio. Whew! I believe he can win both, but I’m glad that his victory is not dependent upon winning either state.

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Wow – catch KO’s comment tonight if you can. It is powerful. Reflects a lot of what has been expressed here on Mudflats about racism – and a real appeal to McCain to “do the right thing.”

27 10 2008
White Agate

wired differently:

Make mine coconut cream from the Dahlia Lounge in Seattle. Or the same from Betty’s Pies in Two Harbors, MN (closer).

27 10 2008
BigPete

I noticed a Pie recipe on a previous post………is everything back to normal?…….Is it cool to come out and play?

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

You’re right, White Agate, sunshine is the best disinfectant. But we (the employers) have to continue to pay attention to what our employees are doing. We’ve got to stay involved and vocal, because politics in America is a dirty game, with many favors given (by special interests) for special treatment.

Thanks to the internet, it’s easier for us to keep tabs, but we can never forget this place that we have been slowly sucked into, because in our naivete, we thought we elected these people to look after us. It’s not Country that needs to be first. It’s us, all of us.

27 10 2008
rf11 in FL

Bec Hussein in Illinois (17:01:04) :

Wow – catch KO’s comment tonight if you can. It is powerful. Reflects a lot of what has been expressed here on Mudflats about racism – and a real appeal to McCain to “do the right thing.”

__________________________________________________________________

I just saw it, too.

Too bad it’s falling on deaf ears. When shown a disgusting direct mail piece that linked Obama with pictures of terrorists, McLame was asked, “are you proud of this mailer?” McLame’s response: “Absolutely.”

27 10 2008
Sparky

Bec Hussein in Illinois (17:01:04) :
Wow – catch KO’s comment tonight if you can. It is powerful.

Thanks Bec…will it be available online later? On the MSNBC site? I don’t have cable but Mudpuppies have offered links to the MSNBC site before. I suppose I’m asking, does one just search MSNBC site for a spot? Thanks.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/icon.html

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

We are capable and willing to do pies and savvy political commentary on one thread. Go Mudpuppies!

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

@Sparky… my guess is you can catch the special comment from Keith on the msnbc site now.

27 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

ROFLMAO — RM just showed SWWNBN impersonator behind JM at his rally!

27 10 2008
rf11 in FL

Sparky (17:05:01) :

I don’t have cable but Mudpuppies have offered links to the MSNBC site before. I suppose I’m asking, does one just search MSNBC site for a spot? Thanks.

________________________________________________________________

Here you go, Sparky. Enjoy! Rachel’s the best!

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-msnbc.html

27 10 2008
White Agate

Sista Froth Hussein: Absolutely! Pie is a cultural link of powerful dimensions in the US…it is a language spoken in I think all of the country, and into Canada, as I have found in my travels.

Where better place to plan for a celebratory dessert than here? And we will need the calories for all of the work that needs to be done from Nov. 5th on out.

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Sparky – you have some great options. Rachel is on now (via channelsurfing) – but MSNBC or even YouTube will probably have it on tape soon.

I liked how Rachel just noticed the Palin impersonator behind McCain at a recent speech. It was pretty stupid!

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Yes, you can go directly to msnbc (If I try to put the wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. in this is wwwwwwwwwwhat happens) but there all of the political shows have a tab you can access, and Keith’s special comments are on there.

Marty— see wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat your comments have done to my keyboard? Too much humor. Stop it. Or I wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwill have to stop drinking sticky liquids as a blog.

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

White Agate — Obama loves pie. We all love pie!!

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

wwwwwwwwwwwwhoa bad bad grammar. So sorry.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

itunes now has complete broadcasts of Rachels’ showwwwwwwwwwww.

27 10 2008
Sparky

rf11 in FL (17:08:20) Very cool indeed. Thanks!

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

podcasts…. you kno hat I mean.

27 10 2008
Bill

OCLiberal: Thanks for your post. You found a more complete report on Palin’s response than I had seen. I do think this is further evidence that she’s bitten every political hand that has fed her, and is prepared to continue to do so. Barracuda or Great White?

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Rachel just said she can be downloaded on ITunes. Full podcast. OR at:

rachel.msnbc.com

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Here is the full link you get if you go to Rachel’s new podcast site:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

27 10 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

hugs to catherine…i had the same thoughts but certainly not the same experience

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Here is the Webpage for all the podcasts available for MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8132577/

I checked – it is all free. So you non-cable folks — go nuts!

27 10 2008
Sparky

Got Mudpups, thanks: Rachael Maddow “blah blah blah” from McCain.

Ha!🙂

going back….

27 10 2008
WV Democrat

Bill Clinton will visit Beckley, West Virginia on Thursday, October 30th!!!

The Obama-Biden campaign announced on Monday that Clinton will make a stop at Word Memorial Park at the corner of Neville Street and First Avenue in Downtown Beckley.

Doors open at 10a.m.

Tickets are not needed, but an RSVP at http://www.barackobama.com/BeckleyChange are encouraged.

I’d love to go but it’s a 4 hour drive one way….😦

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Yeah… I fixed the w key🙂 Go me!

back to the discussion

27 10 2008
Sir Pent

I think it would be impossible for anyone to rise to any kind of power and not take advantage of the “benefits” of that power. Then you slip into gray areas…things you probably shouldn’t do but are not technically wrong. After you get comfortable with that, it’s all downhill.

Sir Pent
http://reverbnation.com/lizardsfromafar
http://www.lizardsfromafar.com

27 10 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

NoCalgal, around 16:01, posted the last 6 minutes of Barack’s speech in Canton, Ohio. Thanks for posting that. I cried like a baby. That is a powerful ending, and if anyone has not already seen it, you need to stop what you are doing and watch it right now.

27 10 2008
LINDA

Does anybody else see a pardon for Stevens from Bush as he leaves office?

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Moral erosion… I agree, it’s subtle and seductive.

27 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod

@Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (16:43:42) :

Wisdom has it that we need to watch next Tuesday for the votes in Indiana, Kentucky, Georgia and Virginia. These states will end at 8 EST, MSNBC etal are based in NYC and are on Eastern time too, so if these states can be called when those polls close, the election can be called, and it just remains to see how much of a landslide it will be. And I am about to throw up with the anxiety of waiting…
———————
I heard this piece of projection as well. Except that Kentucky is not under scrutiny in terms of the presidential race; that is, no one expects it to go red on the presidential level. The key there is Mitch McConnell’s Senate race. If he loses…or even if it’s too close to call…they say it will be a great night for democrats across the board…from top to bottom. If this is true, perhaps we should send our spare change to Bruce Lunsford, his opponent.

hose Hussein hotrod

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

linda, not for this crime.. it’s not civil.. it’s criminal.. Bush won’t pardon him.. might commute his sentence, but i don’t think he’ll pardon him.

27 10 2008
BigPete

On Rachel Maddow……..Twitter is a favorite tool of Socialists etc etc. We don’t have Twitter….do we?

27 10 2008
Willow

Hi all!

Interesting time for you guys up in AK huh?

27 10 2008
FlipptyWa

YAAAAAAAAH !!!!!!!!

hopefuly I’m going back to work !!!!!!

Beoing and the IAM settled ….

27 10 2008
Willow

I think anyone who has internet access can use Twitter, right?

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Linda – scroll up — lots of discussion on pardon earlier.

Not likely.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

So, was this the October surprise?

27 10 2008
Bev

Ted Stevens may indeed be “the big fish”, but there are lots of little fishes still swimming in the cesspool of Congress. We should all metaphorically grab our representatives and senators and hold their faces two inches away from ours and say:”Don’t screw up. You will be watched, you will be weighed, you will be measured. And this ain’t no lifetime appointment.” And then do as you say – watch, weigh, measure, and if your rep/senator is found wanting, HOLLER IT OUT LOUD! No more protection for the skunk in the backyard (Sorry, don’t mean to malign the skunk. . .can’t think of another animal metaphor)

27 10 2008
LINDA

Thanks_ Bec Hussein in Illinois_ it’s hard to keep up with all the comments when I still at work.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Talk about a demoralization among the Repubs on Rachel… especially with Stevens… talking about a wave (of democrats being elected)

27 10 2008
Whiskey Otter Hussein

I simply can’t fathom a rational person who could watch Obama’s “Closing Argument” and then go vote for McPalin. That was a great, powerful and moving speech.

Please, Mudpuppies, check with your families, friends and neighbors to encourage them to vote early and offer babysitting, rides…whatever is needed to get this thing done!!

27 10 2008
Lulu

OFF TOPIC: This reminds me of Palin…

“Oh! if only I could go back to my flower basket! I should be independent of both you and father and all the world! Why did you take my independence from me? Why did I give it up? I’m a slave now, for all my fine clothes. ”

Eliza Doolittle in PYGMALION by George Bernard Shaw

27 10 2008
OFFICIALLY

PERFERCT DAY TED CONVICTED and the white witch claims the victory. After all everybody knows now it was her efforts as the corruption fighting witch corruption brought justice down on TED.

Also, a Perfect segway to AN UPDATE ON THE PALIN HOUSEGATE INVESTIGATION.

CALL IN THE FEDS NOW IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY ON THE HOUSEGATE CAPPER.

Feds are most definitely on a roll and they got time for it now.

27 10 2008
sauer kraut

Ripley – if you buy him the chair, I’ll pay for the brandy.

a big eeeeeewwwwww to the visual of a stevens butt print. although that could be a new saying to describe any politician who is convicted and shipped off to the greybar hotel.

and Marty? Ya really think he might toss Palin under that bus? Do you know which route it’s taking? I wanna be on that bus. Oh, yessir, yes I do.

27 10 2008
ira2

Off topic: Did the Cajun guy’s predicted babygate shocker turn up anywhere today?

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Lulu (17:42:51) :

Good one, Lulu. Wish I’d remembered that!

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in honolulu

Nebraska Mudflats–I’m sorry you fixed your key—your comments had me laughing out loud! WWWWWWWWWWWWhat fun!
or should I say hat fun?

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Shhhhhhh Linda — I won’t tell anyone!

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

ira2 (17:50:27) : No. I am embarrassed to admit I looked to see if it had. NO I DIDN’T. Gee, that was easy, also.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA
27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Crust… we’re bad. NO WE AREN’T.

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in honolulu

Oops–I mean Nebraska Native AKA Sista!

I hope you knewwwww wwwwwwwwhat I meant!
(I’m odd–I get tickled at the silliest things–sorry)

27 10 2008
sauer kraut

Maybe I am the only one who thinks this way, but it seems to me that if Sarah Palin is truly interested in fighting corruption in Alaska the first thing she’ll do is resign.

Think she’s up to that level of honesty?

naaah… me neither.

She’s got a history of saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite.

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

Lock Pepper in honolulu (17:51:11) : Be very careful about that laughing out loud thing. Your w key can be damaged by accidental spewing.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (17:55:13) :

We’re wonderfully, marvelously curious. Ask me anything…I’ll find the answers (both sides).

27 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

NoCalGal, thanks for posting the link to Obama’s closing arguments. And Rob in Santa Cruz, thanks for telling me to stop what I was doing and watch it!

It was truly incredible.

Catherine, my best to you.

We come together here knowing just one thing about each other: that we support Barack Obama. We sometimes learn things that remind us our lives are very different. And yet, there are still so many things to bring us together.

27 10 2008
Lacy Lady

The snowball is getting bigger by the minute. It is starting to roll down the hill, faster and faster. WOW—–it just hit the Straight Talk Express!!!!!!! I think it is out of commission. A call or HELP!!!!!!!!! We have fallen and can’t get up!!
Too Bad!!! It will be a loooooong walk home.

27 10 2008
Sparky

@OFFICIALLY (17:49:37) :

PERFECT DAY stuff

Add Time’s Mark Halperin’s article on Palin’s interview (be prepared for word salady) http://thepage.time.com/excerpts-from-palins-hannity-interview-part-i/

27 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein

G’night Puppies! Time for the other time zones🙂 We have set the intellectual bar really high though for the evening, I’m just sayin’ also. I love this blog!!!!

27 10 2008
samihawaii hussein that one stevens

“Mr. Begich…I think you’re going to need a totally new seat. After 40 years, that one is sporting a permanent Stevens butt print, and we need a fresh start.”

The Stevens “butt print” phrase is priceless! Thanks again, AKM, for your pithy and hilarious writing! More compliments to you on your Queen of Narnia bedtime story, too. Your way with words is side-splitting, breathtaking and completely admirable!

27 10 2008
sauer kraut

Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (15:18:14) : Is there a republican alive that can take some personal responsibility????
________________

Yes, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe are the two outstanding female senators from the great state of Maine. I know some Maine’ahs disagree but I find both to possess great skills, great personalities, and a great deal of dignity and honor. Either would be exceptional choices for VP and both buy their own clothes.

27 10 2008
WV Democrat

@ Crust Scramble – SouthGA

No.

http://cajunboyinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/cajun-boy-to-blood-thirsty-mob-stop.html

______________________________________________________________________________

I just wish I could stop proof reading long enough to enjoy what he says. Skiddish…sheesh!!

27 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein
27 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@fawnskin hussein mudpuppy (14:58:25) :

first
________———————
i always get a smile on my face when i see that and I never get close to first……….Sorry AKM……..i need a smile………….

27 10 2008
mudflats

27 10 2008
suchanut

I just got a robo call. Once they’d identified me as an Obama supporter, they started in on how awful Bo would be on the economy. I hung up. Bastids!

27 10 2008
Dragon Lady

OOO = catch Palin defending her earrings.

27 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Hollywood insiders rip MSNBC, defend Palin

http://www.reuters.com/article/sarahPalin/idUSTRE49R0GK20081028

27 10 2008
suchanut

A robo call from McCain in Alaska. Are they nervous?

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Catherine, I am sorry to hear your story, but thank you for what you said. You stated it much more eloquently than I ever could.

BigPete, yes it’s safe to come out and play. We won’t bite–we’ll just offer you pie.

Now, for my cynical side: I don’t believe W. and his cronies will ever be held responsible, not by the US, and not by the Hague. I believe they will get away with it (except for in history), and what’s more, I don’t think they feel any remorse. I, for one, am enjoying the fall of the old GOP. The pervading stench of their slimy politics have weighted us down for far too long. It is time for them to reinvent themselves as the Democratic Party had to do after Clinton.

I sincerely hope a true compassionate conservative party emerges, otherwise, the GOP deserves to crumble into dust.

27 10 2008
suchanut

PIe, pie, pie, pie…..asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN, have you had any since the blueberry?

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

WE WITNESSED BARACK OBAMA IN PITTSBURGH TONIGHT

My 12 year old daughter and I went to the Obama Rally in Pittsburgh today. It was at the Mellon Arena, home of the Pittsburgh Penguins hockey team. Barack was scheduled to speak at 5:00 PM.

A bellhop at the Marriot Hotel across the street told me people began lining up at 7:30 AM. He also said he had never seen anything like it except maybe the Hanna Montana concert. The doors opened at 3:00 PM. When we got there at 3:30 PM the line was many many many blocks long and zigzagged through the neighborhood.

The venue is located in a predominately African American section of Pittsburgh known as “The Hill District.” The crowd was about 80 percent white. Many college students, but also many many middle aged and older white men that looked like they were possibly steel worker retirees. The audience was multigenerational, multicultural and economically diverse.

My daughter and I barely made it in before the place filled up, but we lucked out and got great seats. Barack spoke at 5;30. I had already heard some of the speech from sound bites playing on CNN XM radio from his morning speech in Ohio.

Barack is a dynamic speaker. He cautioned people to not get complacent and risk this slipping away in the final days. At one point people booed his mention of John McCain and Sarah Palin. He had a cute line, saying “You don’t need to boo them, you just have to get out and vote.” Barack is amazingly presidential in person. It reminded me of the old film clips I have seen of JFK.

I was thinking when we got home tonight that I really do not remember him smiling tonight. There was a gravity and a power throughout his speech, an absolute firmness, confidence and determination. Like I said above, Presidential, JFK. I really believe I have witnessed something great, something extraordinary, history in the making.

I am so pleaseed that my daughter got to experience this with me. It is something she can tell her children and grandchildren about someday. She was there. Her father took her to see him.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

If you care to have a listen, this is the official version of Obama’s “Closing Arguments”. Our guy is good, but he seems weary. He needs a piece of pie and a looooong rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf8N1Ucfb7E

27 10 2008
WV Democrat

@ Sparky (18:02:08) :

RE: Halperin’s article

I just read it. She still has no idea what caused the financial collapse nor what has to be done differently.

Rant:

She always says JOHN McCAIN this, JOHN McCAIN that!!! Drives me CRAZY!! Never Senator McCain or Mr. McCain, or John….

*tearing hair out*

/rant over for now

27 10 2008
WV Democrat

Oh, my last submitted post didn’t appear…

27 10 2008
sauer kraut

I agree with Catherine about the suicide thing posted by someone else. There is no manliness in shooting oneself in the head instead of facing the people squarely for your punishment.

I also hope mudflats takes that particular comment off due to its offensiveness. We don’t need to act or communicate like some of the republicans who do such a poor job of it, ie, palin.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN (18:14:59) :

How right you are, Ms. Asian. The GOP does deserve to crumble into dust. They have screwed us for years (at least 8) and now they have finally screwed themselves. O happy day!

27 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Fort Worth Star-Telegram joins newspapers backing Obama

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/321/story/54855.html

(is this newspaper #3 in D-FW?)

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

suchanut, I am now in possession of the most marvelous rhubarb custard pie in the world. I bought it, but it’s handmade. It’s so good, it almost makes me forget thatc McCain/Palin are actually taken seriously. It’s good, this pie. I can’t believe you got a robocall in Alaska! That’s insane.

White Agate, Betty’s Pies. They were the best back in the day. I remember going up north in the summer and stopping for a piece of their incredible pie. Yum.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Ah, crap. The video I posted is from the primaries. Please excuse.

27 10 2008
suchanut

Asiangrrl – I went out to watch that clip and I found this one:

Barack Visits Brighton, CO Field Office

He is so damn cute with the little ones….

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN (18:23:36

How is it that you eat so much pie and stay so small? Please tell me your secret so that I can eat fudge and not gain weight.

27 10 2008
Shaddomagg

As a neighbor to your east (BC) and an addicted American political junkie, I ardently wish you the best on the tie-jerking, stare in the eye threat! My biggest fear is that Stevens wins, gets his a** hauled off to jail, and Sarah appoints herself as the Senate replacement. Can she do that? Would she do that? (Actually, as a junkie, its not fear…its loathing…and not just a titch oggling!!)

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Here is the speech he gave today. It’s similar to the speech he gave at the end of the primaries, but he’s more inspired and energized. Man, there is beauty in his words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X3eE18dfmE

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

My 12 year old daughter and I went to the Obama Rally in Pittsburgh today. It was at the Mellon Arena, home of the Pittsburgh Penguins hockey team. Barack was scheduled to speak at 5:00 PM.

A bellhop at the Marriot Hotel across the street where we parked told me people began lining up at 7:30 AM. He also said he had never seen anything like it except maybe the Hanna Montana concert. The doors opened at 3:00 PM. When we got there at 3:30 PM the line was many many many blocks long and zigzagged through the neighborhood.

The venue is located in a predominately African American section of Pittsburgh known as “The Hill District.” The crowd was about 80 percent white. Many college students, but also many many middle aged and older white men that looked like they were possibly steel worker retirees. The audience was multigenerational, multicultural and economically diverse.

My daughter and I barely made it in before the place filled up, but we lucked out and got great seats. Barack spoke at 5:30. I had already heard some of the speech from sound bites playing on NPR from his morning speech in Ohio.

Barack is a dynamic speaker. He cautioned people to not get complacent and risk this slipping away in the final days. At one point people booed his mention of John McCain and Sarah Palin. He had a cute line, saying “You don’t need to boo them, you just have to get out and vote.” Barack is amazingly presidential in person. It reminded me of the old film clips I have seen of JFK.

I was thinking when we got home tonight that I really do not remember him smiling tonight. There was a gravity and a power throughout his speech, an absolute firmness, confidence and determination. Like I said above, Presidential, JFK. I really believe I have witnessed something great, something extraordinary, history in the making.

I am so pleased that my daughter got to experience this with me. It is something she can tell her children and grandchildren about someday. She was there. Her father brought her to see Barack Obama before he won the Presidency.

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

test

27 10 2008
suchanut

My fear is that loads of Repugs will vote for Ted because if Ted wins, he can resign. If he resigns, they are required to hold a special election to fill the seat. Sarah Palin , back from an unsuccessful bid for VP will run and get to DC that way.

What a nightmare.

27 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

Article about Stevens in The New Republic titled “The Jerk” by Michael Crowley
http://www.tnr.com/columnists/story.html?id=8e289eb3-7807-4e89-9245-00f5af05f919

A couple of snippets:
“I’m a mean, miserable S.O.B.,” he once proudly told his colleagues…
How was Ted Stevens able to turn the fear and loathing he engendered in others into a political asset? The answer to this question reveals not only Stevens’s twisted genius for getting what he wants but also something about the Washington political culture that allowed him to run amok.”

In Washingtonian magazine’s most recent annual “Best and Worst of Congress” contest–based on votes by congressional staffers–Stevens claimed first place for “Hottest Temper” and finished second for “Meanest.” (For good measure, he also won the silver for “Fashion Victim,” presumably thanks to his Hulk motifs.) When House Republicans stalled some pet projects Stevens sought a few years ago, he declared, “I’m just sorry they repealed the law on dueling. I’d have shot a couple of the sons of bitches.” After the government-watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste criticized his insatiable appetite for pork spending, Stevens branded them “idiots” and “a bunch of psychopaths.”

27 10 2008
Territorial babe

What I saw on the TV tonight did not speak to the idea that Ms. Palin and Mr. Stevens knew each other at all. Perhaps, someone might shed some light on their interaction, but for the rest of us stateside, Ms. Palin did not seem to blink at all in her response.

Of course the coverage panned on a frail-appearing mild-mannered but still somewhat strident older man. When one has only heard reference of him in the papers about his length of service in government, it’s hard to imagine how important he was to anyone outside of AK. Ms. Courics’ coverage actually made me wonder whether others here in Ohio-Indiana might question the timeliness of Mr. Powell’s character testimony before endorsing Mr. Obama. More will have to be made of the issue, to develop the relationship between Mr. Stevens and Ms. Palin, before anyone else considers the gravity of the matter, I fear.

On the other hand, quarter of a million, one-hundred fifty thousand, two-hundred seventeen million; with the numbers that are being thrown around nowadays, it’s a wonder that the money is the big deal, so the the point of the argument comes down to the lying–and we do not know what exposing lies does. Seems people get away with it all the time–with ideas of honor, ‘man of his word’, and Palinspeak. Does anyone care to do anything different when the truth is spoken? Sometimes I wonder that anyone cares that their political representative tells truths or not.

27 10 2008
Dragon Lady

I am exhausted. My stepfathers illness with leukemia and melanoma (4 times).

Now post obit Servo Pro has decided to charge them another $1500 figuring the widow has got some bucks from work they did ALMOST ONE YEAR AGO.

They had the two party check to ServPro and my Stepfather. Case settled.
Now his obit is in the paper they send a nasty letter.

I am worn out; just part of our corrupt times. Just NEVER use these people; they told my 78 year old mother she would “break even.” THEY LIED.

SERVOPRO ARE CROOKS AND OPPORTUNISTS WHO READ OBITS.

27 10 2008
SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick

You know, when you’re healing from something bad — they talk about “safe places” to be and “safe people” to be with. Well, dammit, things have been pretty darn bad, and this, this is a safe place. Pie recipe, Megacephalus, Lulu quoting Pygmalion ( by my favorite playwright) , all those Palin Husseins and Trigs, the people who told me to watch the Obama last six minutes. There isn’t a blog out there that offers this kind of diversity, hilarity, op ed, facts — and safety. My husband doesn’t get it, but that’s ok.

27 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

Well, hey, I just went back to an earlier thread and watched to depressing video shot in Denver at the McCain rally on Saturday. I couldn’t watch it earlier since I was at work (somebody near my desk might have joined in with the Obama bashers!).

It was kind of like a train wreck. I just couldn’t stop watching. I was sincerely afraid that I might actually recognize someone. (thank God I didn’t) However, I just kept thinking to myself “these people LOOK normal. If I saw these people on the street, I’d smile and be friendly toward them. What the hell is wrong with them?!?!?”

I do not like this hatred.

I’m going to watch the clip of Obama speaking again.

And eat some cookie dough.

27 10 2008
bPoint

“The Vet Who Did Not Vet” explains McCain’s pick of Palin in the way Spongebob might explain it to Patrick.

The best, by far campaign video of the century.

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I keep trying to post our visit to the Barack Obama rally in Pgh but it keeps getting kicked out as already being submitted …but I do not see it. Strange. I will keep trying.

27 10 2008
sauer kraut

Caspar Weinberger was not pardoned by Nixon but by Bush41 to hide the full story of the Iran-Contra fiasco.

I’m gonna take someone up on that bet about Bush43 pardoning Stevens. Especially if the judge gives Stevens any length of time behind bars.

27 10 2008
Jane

Not sure if anyone has posted this tonight but cheers to Olbermann yet again — take a look — worth listening to and it will be interesting to see if there is a response…

“Olbermann to McCain: Speak up and lead!
The candidate should discourage the politics of racial divisiveness”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27408776#27408776

27 10 2008
Big Al from Las Vegas

I am unfamiliar with the past record of Ted Stevens, but it sounds like Alaskans have the same warm respect for the Ted Stevens of a bygone era as do Independents have of John mccain of 2000 and prior. At 84 years old it doesn’t sound like Stevens will do a lot of prison time, but it does sound like he will be incarcerated long enough to wrestle with the philosophical questions surrounding his political career “where did it all go wrong?” As the GOP retreats to rebuild itself in the post-Karl Rove era, it will be interesting to see if a new standard-bearer for the GOP emerges with a profoundly reflective conception of the tragic comic guiding his or her new understanding of how the RNC can best serve the American democratic experiment with a message of hope that can move the masses.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

One more time, good people, Alaska passed a resolution that if a senator cannot finish his/her term, a special election must be held. In other words, Palin can do jack about it.

suchanut, I love how gentle Obama is with the kids and how unaffected he is with his volunteers and the people he calls. I would much rather have a beverage with him than with McCain.

CrustScramble in SouthGA, I wish that was me! That’s Margaret Cho. I, on the other hand, show much evidence of my ample affinity for pie. Alas, also.

27 10 2008
SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick

I think I just went in the slush pile. I got too exited in my post and wrote the word d*****. . . All I wanted to say is that when you’re healing from something terrible, your therapist or friends will tell you to find “safe places” and “safe people.” Well– and this is where I put the bad word– things have been pretty darn bad and this, this is my “safe place.” Pie crust recipe, Megacephalus, Lulu quoting Shaw, people telling me I must watch the last six minutes of Obama’s speech, all the Hussein Palins and Trigs! I’ve never experienced anything like this– the diversity, hilarity, the op-eds and facts and yes, the safety. My husband doesn’t understand, but that’s ok.

27 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@suchanut (18:29:28) :

My fear is that loads of Repugs will vote for Ted because if Ted wins, he can resign. If he resigns, they are required to hold a special election to fill the seat. Sarah Palin , back from an unsuccessful bid for VP will run and get to DC that way.

What a nightmare.

Maybe she’s doing that deal with Mr Stevens as we speak ….

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

I keep getting the duplicate post warning so I will try to resubmit in parts.

PART ONE

My 12 year old daughter and I went to the Obama Rally in Pittsburgh today. It was at the Mellon Arena, home of the Pittsburgh Penguins hockey team. Barack was scheduled to speak at 5:00 PM.

A bellhop at the Marriot Hotel across the street where we parked told me people began lining up at 7:30 AM. He also said he had never seen anything like it except maybe the Hanna Montana concert. The doors opened at 3:00 PM. When we got there at 3:30 PM the line was many many many blocks long and zigzagged through the neighborhood.

The venue is located in a predominately African American section of Pittsburgh known as “The Hill District.” The crowd was about 80 percent white. Many college students, but also many many middle aged and older white men that looked like they were possibly steel worker retirees. The audience was multigenerational, multicultural and economically diverse.

27 10 2008
SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick

When you’re healing from something terrible, your therapist or friends will tell you to find “safe places” and “safe people.” Well, things have been pretty darn bad and this, this is my “safe place.” Pie crust recipe, Megacephalus, Lulu quoting Shaw, people telling me I must watch the last six minutes of Obama’s speech, all the Hussein Palins and Trigs! I’ve never experienced anything like this– the diversity, hilarity, the op-eds and facts and yes, the safety. My husband doesn’t understand, but that’s ok.

27 10 2008
sauer kraut

Eyes Wide – recall mudflats advice from a few days ago about repeatedly posting the same thing after it’s gone into the spam bucket. if you repeat post something that does not appear, do not repost it because akismet then “learns” that anything coming from you is spam. Be patient akm advised cus akm will fish it out of the spam box, just not right away.

27 10 2008
ira2

@ Nebraska Native AKA Sista Froth Hussein (17:52:44) :

@ Crust Scramble – SouthGA (17:53:24) :

Thanks for the update on Cajun Boy’s postings. I figured that we’d have heard about it here if something had popped up in the news.

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

(PART TWO)

My daughter and I barely made it in before the place filled up, but we lucked out and got great seats. Barack spoke at 5:30. I had already heard some of the speech from sound bites playing on NPR from his morning speech in Ohio.

Barack is a dynamic speaker. He cautioned people to not get complacent and risk this slipping away in the final days. At one point people booed his mention of John McCain and Sarah Palin. He had a cute line, saying “You don’t need to boo them, you just have to get out and vote.” Barack is amazingly presidential in person. It reminded me of the old film clips I have seen of JFK.

I was thinking when we got home tonight that I really do not remember him smiling tonight. There was a gravity and a power throughout his speech, an absolute firmness, confidence and determination. Like I said above, Presidential, JFK. I really believe I have witnessed something great, something extraordinary, history in the making.

I am so pleased that my daughter got to experience this with me. It is something she can tell her children and grandchildren about someday. She was there. Her father brought her to see Barack Obama before he won the Presidency.

27 10 2008
Bev

That’s for posting the pie crust recipe! I usually avoid pie because every recipe I have has some intricate arcane too befuddling crust recipe in tow. . . my family will (I hope) thank you this holiday season. . . .Perkins Restaurant on the other hand will not be so happy. . . 🙂

Um….it’s getting cold here in Florida tonight. Forecast is for low 40s overnight with mild weather in the AM – low 60s. Before all you Northerners laugh out loud, we seldom get cold nights like that until mid-February and usually only for a week. I’m breaking out my sweaters and the fleece coats for my greyhound! The dogs are nutso with the cooler weather (in and out in and out in and out) – the cats just wanna know when the food is being served.

27 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (18:32:28) :

you’ve gone to spam, but you will be freed – I will keep an eye out for it

27 10 2008
Krubozumo Nyankoye

Flex Gunship Palin (16:54:22):

What you said.

I think the Ford pardon was him falling on his sword for the Republicans not the Republic. A hand full of operatives did light time in club Fed and came back to cushy jobs and increasing influence with the right wing as martyrs to the cause. The congress should have impeached Ford.

Let us not forget the background tableau. War, 58,000 dead young men and deep violent dissension across the country. The conspirators who were given a slap on the wrist and dismissed without even any public criticism came back into power in a few years and began to dismantle the Republic in favor of the elite rich, a process that has continued virtually without pause ever since.

Have no illusions, if the republicans can steal this election they will, they are trying every trick they know and will pull out all the stops in the next seven days. They control the MSM so it will be up to us, the underground press and members of the blogosphere to call foul loud and clear when vote caging and fraud occur next Tuesday, and they will. It has worked for them twice. One of the reasons why their campaign has seemed so dysfunctional may well be that they are supremely confident that it will work for them again.

Bear in mind that the Republicans control two of the three branches of government today and will continue to do so until January 20, 2009. Even if the election plays out in a way that is undeniably in favor of the Democrats, that will not be the end of it. Obama’s presidency will make Clinton’s look like a tea party. The right wing will attack him from every possible direction with every conceivable kind of sleaze, innuendo, lies, and dirty tricks.

It is up to us whether or not they will succeed. Though I sympathize with the sentiments expressed here by many that winning this election will be a great relief, I will paraphrase a resolute and honest man. This is not the end, this is not even the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning. Now we must be prepared to sacrifice, to suffer and to endure for an indeterminate time. We must be prepared to demand of our representatives that they be responsible to us and not the select few. Remember, we have bestowed upon Obama’s campaign $150,000,000 in one month, congress bestowed upon the wall street elite, the Republican core, $700,000,000,000 in ONE day. For every dollar contributed to Obama, congress gave away $4,666 to banks.

I apologize in advance for being a wet blanket.

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

testing

27 10 2008
Bev

I just need to ask…I was reading a bunch of posts at ADN and I am shocked and saddened.

My question is this…when someone is caught red handed with cookie crumbs on their face and one hand in the jar, how can others defend that person?
Instead of saying oh well, he got caught, did a crime now pay the time…they put the blame on Obama or other Liberals or say, well Obama knows crooks and he has a fancy house etc……

I used to think better of my fellow man, but since this election I see who and what people really are like…this is my first and last election…I will never vote again.
I have seen the underbelly of human nature and it stinks, the name calling, the vile vomit that comes spewing forth is nothing more then the truth as they see it in their own lives.

I pray that Obama wins, changes things for the better and we all fade into another place, forgetting what we said and read and sometimes nod at a passerby with a small knowing glance. I for one will drop my head in shame and feel that as an America the pain we have inflicted on those who watch as we continue to destroy ourselves in silence.

Sorry for the rambling, I am just disappointed…

Obama/Biden ’08

27 10 2008
suchanut

So, I wonder what is happening with Troopergate? With this Ted thingie going on, it provides distraction from all of the other ‘gates’.

If everything blows open this week my head will surely explode.

27 10 2008
bPoint

@sauer kraut (18:32:40) :

I’m gonna take someone up on that bet about Bush43 pardoning Stevens. Especially if the judge gives Stevens any length of time behind bars.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
43 will not be able to pardon Stevens. Stevens is certain to appeal, and if the appeal is rejected that decision will not come until close to or after the inauguration. If the appeal is granted well, 43 will be gone before a new trial will even start. Let us pray that SP is not in office to pardon the little sh*t.

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

PART TWO

My daughter and I barely made it in before the place filled up, but we lucked out and got great seats. Barack spoke at 5:30. I had already heard some of the speech from sound bites playing on NPR from his morning speech in Ohio.

Barack is a dynamic speaker. He cautioned people to not get complacent and risk this slipping away in the final days. At one point people booed his mention of John McCain and Sarah Palin. He had a cute line, saying “You don’t need to boo them, you just have to get out and vote.” Barack is amazingly presidential in person. It reminded me of the old film clips I have seen of JFK.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Sympathies, Dragon Lady. It is hard to deal with the illness/death of a loved one, let alone deal with the unsavory predatories who come out of the shadows afterwards.

Jane, I was impressed with how Olbermann was almost pleading with McCain, rather than shouting. Instead of Olbermann’s usual bluster, there was sadness in his voice. Good for him, but I doubt McCain will step up to the plate. it’s hard to imagine anyone falling so quickly in my esteem as has John McCain.

27 10 2008
Jim, aka Pitt Bull Hockey Puck

Ain’t no way I can possibly catch up with y’all! I was working at Obama’s local campaign HQ today when word came down about Ted’s convictions. I expected some cheering, but there were really only a few of us that were much interested. Everyone else kept their eyes on the goal, which is good too, also.

27 10 2008
OFFICIALLY

My fear is that loads of Repugs will vote for Ted because if Ted wins, he can resign. If he resigns, they are required to hold a special election to fill the seat. Sarah Palin , back from an unsuccessful bid for VP will run and get to DC that way.

What a nightmare.
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

No doubt; a nightmare!
Another reason to follow the money…Palin HOUSEGATE INVESTIGATION and hope the Personal Board does the right thing and comes out with clear impeachable charges the legislature can get behind.

27 10 2008
braveny

OT: Cliche and Metaphor support group

cute cartoon

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/gallery/54463-a54731-t3.html

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Drat, even in breaking up my story the spam thing keeps wacking it out.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Bev (18:38:07) :

I with you. When I made my nightly call to my 86 year old Momma who lives 40 miles away from me (in South Georgia) and asked her how she was, she said, “I’m cold”. I’m cold, too, and it’s not yet 40 degrees. I’m already sleeping with my socks on!

I would not wish cold on anybody.

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Thanks bPoint – I just sent the Vet Who Didn’t Vet to my sister in Utah! She’ll love it.

27 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

Suchanut,

I found your link to the Obama visit to the field office in Brighton while I was cheering myself up with Barack and cookie dough.

Thank you for posting that!!!!

I have a wonderful friend on the Brighton city council, who was not (sadly) in this video, but only because I know that he was out somewhere else doing volunteer work for Barack Obama.

What an amazingly real person he is. I would love to share my cookie dough with Barack Obama.

27 10 2008
suchanut

Bev (18:40:41) :

I was listening to a conservative talk radio show on my way home from work to see how all of this was playing. Caller after caller said, well maybe he was a little dirty, but since he has done so much for Alaska, I am voting for him.

I’m disgusted too. I don’t get it either…

27 10 2008
suchanut

And when I just tried to post that, I got that blue screen saying I had already posted it.

Is there is a setting going kerflouie here?

27 10 2008
wired differently

Slightly off-topic, but: I just heard that Dino Rossi, Republican candidate for governor in Alaska’s closest neighbor, WA (kind of close to the topic), MUST give his deposition in the Buildergate

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Drat, the best thing I have written here has been cast into the spam bin with all those organ enlargement promotions and Nigerian money scams.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

I agree that the Shrub won’t pardon Stevens. Bush already looks like crap. The light is on and the roaches are running. There’s no way to spin all this $hit into gold.

27 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

sauer kraut (18:32:40) :

Caspar Weinberger was not pardoned by Nixon but by Bush41 to hide the full story of the Iran-Contra fiasco.
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Yup, yup. And also to prevent Bush41 from having to testify. Also.

And I won’t take you up on a Stevens pardon. I don’t even think the sentence will matter. The one I’m awaiting with interest is Duke Cunningham. Also.

27 10 2008
suchanut

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (18:48:57) :

I think there is something up tonight – odd things are happening on the intertubes.

27 10 2008
Dianna

Anyone here from the deep south? I am currently living in Mississippi and would love to hear how everyone else is doing. I can talk to very few people about the election and almost all of them are out of state. Seriously, depressing. When I drive around, there are NO Obama signs in yards but I do see McCain/Palin signs.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Krubozumo Nyankoye, what you said.

I, too, am skeptical of what will happen. November 4th isn’t the end. It is the beginning of a new era, and if we are so fortunate that it’s the ushering in of the Obama/Biden era, there will be plenty of work to be done.

Bev, I know it’s discouraging when people seem to be idiotic, willfully ignorant, deluded, or simply vile, but please don’t let it permanently deter you from participating in our country’s politics. A few months ago, I was sick of it all and decided I wasn’t going to vote. My best friend pointed out that I would be playing into the Republicans’ hands, and it’s too their advantage to have Democrats not vote.

Besides, if Obama/Biden are elected, they are going to need our support four yearsl from now as well.

27 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Eyes, I really, really hate when that happens. Sorry…

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

AKM HEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLP. My Pulitzer Prize quality Pittsburgh Obama Rally piece has been consigned to the spam shredding pile.

I promise not to tease any mudflatter ever again about their posting position. I even promise to be kind to Republicans and other animals.

27 10 2008
SMR

Bev —

Please please please don’t read the comments at ADN!!!! I have long since given up on that — it is like going to the hannity or limbaugh site! Alaska is full of right-wing nutters, and none of them have anything better to do than comment on ADN stories. Thank God we have diligent blogmasters here who weed those people out.

Reading the comments at ADN used to really harsh my mellow, so I had to give it up cold turkey.

Don’t do it, come here, you’ll sleep better.

27 10 2008
ira2

@ Crust Scramble – SouthGA (18:44:12) :

Heh. Cold is relative, isn’t it… when I pulled out of not-my-driveway-anymore in AZ on New Year’s Eve three years ago, it was zero degrees. When I arrived in way-northern Minnesota three days later, it was 20 degrees.

In AZ (mountains, 8000 ft elevation), the first frost meant death to greenery. Here in MN? Not so much:
http://ira2.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/hello-winter-o/

On the other hand, in AZ it never went to 40 below like it does here, so I guess it all evens out :o)

Stay warm down south!

27 10 2008
Deuce2 AL/Axe Diesel Hussein

Sparky (17:05:01) :
===================
Here is a link to a website where you can watch several shows
free. MSNBC is one of them (and it is live).
http://channelsurfing.net/

27 10 2008
wired differently

oops, hit the wrong button.

Anyway, Dinbo Rossi, Republican scum bag (even my hard-core Republican dad sez so) has to give his statement before the election. The deposition is in regard to a suit brought by two former WA Supreme Court Justices claiming that the “pugnaciously conservative” Building Industry Association of WA, illegally coordinated fundraising with the candidate. They’ve given him sh*tloads of money. This could make the difference in a very tight race.

I can’t help but think the goings on up north, by which I mean the setting of good examples, have had some impact on the judge’s decision.

Let’s hear it for ETHICS in POLITICS!

Okay, off to watch KO and RM on the intertubes.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Dianna (18:51:24) :
Don’t worry, Dianna. I’m in Deep South Georgia. I haven’t put out an Obama sign, because I live in the country of redneck territory. But I am doing everything I can to get Obama elected. And I do believe that a lot of people who say they’re voting for McCain will mark their vote for Obama. Keep the faith. Many of us are running under the radar. There are bunches of us voting Obama, even if we don’t say so out loud.

27 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy

Bev – as I’ve sadly discovered in the conservative area of the state in which I live, republicans find it so much easier to blame someone for things gone wrong than to accept responsibility for being part of the problem.

For some republicans, it will always be someone else’s fault that Ted Stevens was convicted. Just like some democrats, ie, rabid Hillary supporters, will always blame and hound Obama because Hillary did not win the democratic nomination. Reasonable people have moved on, but the hillary-ites continue with their nonsense. So, too, will it go with the Stevens conviction.

27 10 2008
kellygrrrl

Note to the Corrupt: IT’S OVER!!!!!!

Truth Justice Peace and Sanity will Prevail!!!!!

27 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy

bPoint – Bush43 could, if he wanted, pardon Stevens at any point he so desires. He need wait for nothing. Not appeals, not permission, no nothing. He can simply issue a pardon and Stevens will face no consequences for his conviction.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

ira2 (18:56:18) :

@ Crust Scramble – SouthGA (18:44:12) :

Heh. Cold is relative, isn’t it
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It damn sure is. Smarter people than me talk about the humidity of coldness and hotness here. It feels colder here because we’re wetter here. It feels hotter here because the humidity is higher here. All I know is, I’m a hot house flower. I can revel in the heat here, and damn near freeze to death in the cold here. Guess that’s why I feel so for folks who feel cold, wherever they are.

27 10 2008
dowl

South Side Chicago

If it not been addressed earlier, does this Sen. Stevens ‘guilty on all seven counts’ impact Gov. Sarah Palin at all?

Cheer up…(again if you’ve seen this)
This will make you smile, we all need to practice smiling more—voted today! Reward yourself by voting early and for sure on Nov 4th:

‘The Vet Who Did Not’ Vet (2+ minute video)

Obama/Biden 08

27 10 2008
bPoint

Kos points to Alaska election law, which shows that Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) — who was convicted on seven felony charges today — can’t even vote for himself in November:

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

You know what’s weird? I live in East Honolulu and I’ve seen more McCain/Palin signs than Obama by a long shot…maybe because this side of the island has lots of rich people (not us by any means).
I’m just hoping this isn’t representative–especially since this is his home town.

27 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

@suchanut: It will be interesting to see how the conviction affects the Senate race. I mentioned somewhere up there ^ that I didn’t think it could hurt Begich, but whether it helps or not depends on how many independent voters there are, and how many strategic-thinking Republicans.

At the time, I was just thinking that the R’s might want to have a do-over election with a non-felonious candidate. It hadn’t even occurred to me that Palin might be it. Gosh, that’s a terrible thought. And, since it’s a special election, I suppose she could run and remain Governor if she loses. Arrgh.

Well, for now, I will just hope that the true libertarians in AK will decide they’ve had enough of Ted.

27 10 2008
bmccarthy17

C ) Were going to just vote for Bob Bird, but now will vote for Stevens just for the humor of it.

I can not bring myself to vote for Begich, any other Dem., but not him. I’ve
always felt he feels intitled to political office because of his name. Much the same way Benny thought the seat would one day be his.

27 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy

It’s really sad that some people will vote for convicts “just for the humor of it.” Really turns political choice into a joke.

27 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Bev (18:40:41) :

I just need to ask…I was reading a bunch of posts at ADN and I am shocked and saddened.

My question is this…when someone is caught red handed with cookie crumbs on their face and one hand in the jar, how can others defend that person?
+++++++++++++++

Bev, you sound world weary. I am sorry you are feeling dejected and distressed.

Not being an Alaskan, I can only speculate about the reactions found in ADN. Maybe the reaction represents what it’s like when a family member has a bad day in court. I would guess that Ted Stevens feels like family to some Alaskans, because he has been around as long as dirt. And he did a lot of good for Alaska because he had been around longer than the rest of the dirt in Washington (not really–politicians in Washington are not bad/good–but they all have flaws like the rest of us). And it seems many Alaskans are giving Ted a pass because his crimes grow from greed rather than sex, violence. Some things seem easier to reconcile than others

I don’t know. And am not pretending to. I also am not dismissing your observations. I’m just commiserating with you cause you sound down.

27 10 2008
ira2

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (19:03:26) :

It damn sure is. Smarter people than me talk about the humidity of coldness and hotness here. It feels colder here because we’re wetter here. It feels hotter here because the humidity is higher here. […]

I started doubting that wisdom when I lived in Phoenix. “It’s a dry heat!” they said. “It doesn’t feel as hot as it is!” they said. It was a frigging 120 degrees in the shade and there’s little shade and let me tell you, IT FEELS LIKE 120 degrees even in the shade. Dry heat my fanny… there’s no such thing. Um, and your climate down there? I’d die if I had to live in that, LOL! So glad that you do well in it :o)

27 10 2008
bPoint

October 27, 2008

Palin On Stevens: “A Very Sad Day For Alaska”

From the tarmac at Richmond Airport, Sarah Palin issued a statement about the guilty decision in the Ted Stevens corruption case:

“Thanks for your patience there. It’s a sad day for Alaska, and a sad day for Senator Stevens and his family. The verdict shines a light though on the corrupting influence of the big oil service company up there in Alaska that was allowed to control too much of our state. And that control was part of the culture of corruption that I was elected to fight. And that fight must always move forward regardless of party affiliation or seniority or even past service. And as governor of the state of Alaska, I’ll carefully monitor now the situation, and I’ll take any appropriate action as needed. In the meantime, I do ask that the people of Alaska join me in respecting the workings of our judicial system, and I’m confident that Senator Stevens, from this point on, will do the right thing for the state of Alaska.”

As she climbed the stairs to her plane, she ignored a reporter’s question about how she’ll vote next week in her state’s Senate contest.

27 10 2008
Pepper1939

We have 4 Obama/Biden signs in front of our house, as do our next door neighbors have 4 signs. It’s pretty obvious driving on our street that our 2 houses are for Obama. Also, finally convinced my across-the-street-neighbor (lifelong Republican and 76 years old) to change his ways. He has one sign … So we are colorful here in Prescott ARIZONA. Happily, I early voted last week.

27 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

From crikey.com’s news roundup

“McCain’s chance

The McCain campaign intends, I gather, to return to the commander in chief theme with an event in Florida Wednesday showcasing former secretaries of state and retired senior military officers. But why not showcase young Iraq vets instead? These young soldiers and marines can testify eloquently to the success of the surge that John McCain championed, and to the disaster and dishonor that would have followed Barack Obama’s preferred path of withdrawal. — William Kristol, New York Times”

Wednesday will be a big day in Florida

27 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

Michelle Obama is on Jay Leno show tonight.

WILLOW: You asked earlier if anybody could join Twitter.com — Yes. If you scroll down the list on the right side, you will see the Mudflats is on Twitter. It’s similar to instant messaging and can be used on computer and cell phone texting. It’s free.

27 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

ira2 (19:12:13) :

I started doubting that wisdom when I lived in Phoenix. “It’s a dry heat!” they said. “It doesn’t feel as hot as it is!” they said. It was a frigging 120 degrees in the shade and there’s little shade and let me tell you, IT FEELS LIKE 120 degrees even in the shade.
+++++++++++++++++

Amen. Stepping out the door on those 120 degree scorchers was like stepping into the oven. What trees there were had spiky leaves, casting little shade. While traversing an asphalt [molten] parking lot, my four year old burst into tears sobbing, “I HATE mister golden sun.”

27 10 2008
Teresa

bummer day.. I am SO TIRED of corrupt government and free passes… Bush, Cheney Rove, Rumsfeld, McCain, Palin, Stevens and the list goes on… Please vote Democrat this time around, or I give up voting for good!

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Pepper I saw four row houses in Swissvale, PA that share party walls. The four signs in the four yards alternated Obama, McCain, Obama, McCain. So much for neighborhood harmony.

27 10 2008
Dianna

Crust Scramble,
Thank you for the words of encouragement and I agree with you that people aren’t speaking out loud about being pro-Obama. I am suppose to go canvassing with another woman, but I am going to be truthful, there is some fear in doing this. It won’t keep me from going, however.

27 10 2008
Trini

@Dianna. 18:15:24
Don’t worry about the lack of Obama/Biden signs. It is likely that they are being stolen. It’s a weird thing about this campaign, but it appears to be happening everywhere. I am in an area that I know is wholly Obama oriented. But, all of the signs are gone. I know my neighbor’s was stolen. There are a few McClain signs that remain and just the local election signs. Obama sign stealing is rampant! But it doesn’t reflect the dedication of the voters! I put mine in my window and my dogs will defend it to the end!

27 10 2008
katiebegood

sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy (19:03:02) :
bPoint – Bush43 could, if he wanted, pardon Stevens at any point he so desires. He need wait for nothing. Not appeals, not permission, no nothing. He can simply issue a pardon and Stevens will face no consequences for his conviction.

It’s unlikely that Stevens is going to suffer any consequences for his conviction other than the humiliation and disgrace that come from being found guilty of felonious crimes. If Bush were to pardon him, nothing would change. He would still have been found guilty and still be disgraced in people’s eyes.

27 10 2008
Deuce2 AL/Axe Diesel Hussein

Sparky (18:02:08) :
==================
Hopefully you can, however if you can’t, will someone please
tell me WTF she was talking about in the interview?

27 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

O’Reilly is on Letterman tonight. Yikes.

27 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Too many posts in this thread so this will probably get buried; but….

Totally off topic: I propose a Mudflat Convention sometime during the summer in Alaska!

Just a thought. We could propose an agenda for a convention and have a great time deconstructing it while there!

Huge SHOUTOUT to AKM…what do ya think mudpuppy’s?

27 10 2008
alaska senator ted stevens found guilty on all seven counts « angryXer

[…] October 27, 2008 by angryxer You really have to hear it from an Alaskan who knows the lay of the land. The whole of AK Muckraker’s excellent post here. […]

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

ira2 (19:12:13) :

Um, and your climate down there? I’d die if I had to live in that, LOL! So glad that you do well in it :o)
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Well, it wouldn’t kill you, but I don’t always do well in it. Most folks here bitch about the heat. The heat I can ignore. I bitch about the cold.

I was a legal secretary for an old attorney (he graduated from the University of VA, everybody called him ‘Colonel’, he always wore a hat, seersucker suits in the summer, grey flannel in the winter) and he used to say he reserved the right to bitch about the weather no matter what it was.

I’ll be back. I’ve got to go watch Michelle on Leno.

27 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Dianna (18:51:24) :

Anyone here from the deep south? I am currently living in Mississippi and would love to hear how everyone else is doing. I can talk to very few people about the election and almost all of them are out of state. Seriously, depressing.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Hey Dianna. Nice to meet you. I grew up in Pascagoula, Trent Lott’s home town. MS was a solid Repub state when I left. Polls show some movement into the Dem column though. Not saying Obama is going to win the state, but some Dems might.

Remember Stennis was a Dem and Lott was a Dem before going Repub. The south switched to Repub after the 1960s.

27 10 2008
SMR

I wonder if the corrupt big oil service company that Bible Spice was talking about was anything like the corrupt big oil service company that she gave her sweetheart pipeline deal to? Also.

27 10 2008
Dianna

Trini,
Good Grief! Maybe they are stealing them for souvenirs or keepsakes?!
People can be really goofy at times. Wait… maybe I could go around and collect all the JM/SP signs and replace them with Obama signs?? Turn this state around. OR get my a$$ shot, more like.

27 10 2008
Anonymous

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (18:57:14) :

Dianna (18:51:24) :
Don’t worry, Dianna. I’m in Deep South Georgia. I haven’t put out an Obama sign, because I live in the country of redneck territory. But I am doing everything I can to get Obama elected. And I do believe that a lot of people who say they’re voting for McCain will mark their vote for Obama. Keep the faith. Many of us are running under the radar. There are bunches of us voting Obama, even if we don’t say so out loud.
_________________________________________

THANK YOU Crust Scramble for confirming what I truly believe…here in South FL I think people are also “rinning under the radar”. An Obama volunteer came to the door and said most of the houses she’d been to were pro O…..I know my immediate neighbors are…don’t see a lot of signs though for the same reasons as you…….wish I had one now…I’d surely put it up even though I already voted………….

27 10 2008
Blaster Commando Community Organizer in Cecily

Eyes Wide Open, be patient. AKM will catch the post and put it up–but it might not be immediate. Don’t repeat posting or it gets worse. And I can’t wait to hear what you have to say.

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

Goalie Sanka, I’ll come this summer! I’ve been fascinated with the beauty of Alaska while at the same time disturbed about the corruption.

I could handle summer–as you can tell by my title, I’m a hothouse flower. I’ve lived in Alabama, Houston TX and now Honolulu–I empathize with the cold front southeast folks on this thread…

when you spend your time acclimating to incredible heat, it’s hard when God turns down the thermostat on you…also, too, you betcha!

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Interesting.. RealClear has Begich ahead, BEFORE the conviction news..

Wonder if that’s a sign of things to come in Alaska..!!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/senate/ak/alaska_senate-562.html

27 10 2008
Irish in FL

Crist Scra,b;e SouthGA (18:57:14)

did not mean to be “anonymous”….try again…!!!

THANK YOU Crust Scramble for confirming what I truly believe…here in South FL I think people are also “running under the radar”. An Obama volunteer came to the door and said most of the houses she’d been to were pro O…..I know my immediate neighbors are…don’t see a lot of signs though for the same reasons as you…….wish I had one now…I’d surely put it up even though I already voted………….

27 10 2008
Dianna

Denise,
Nice to meet you as well. Where did you escape to?

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

OT
BTW, this is definitely a fluff post (all mine are, actually, glad you mudpuppies still tolerate me)

But Crust Scramble, your name makes me envision fluffy scrambled eggs on a delicious pie crust–kid of like a quiche…anyone else get that picture?

We, like Barack, all love PIE!

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Blaster, I see what you mean, it is like struggling in quicksand, slurp, gag, blub, blub, bl……..

27 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@Lock,

Cool. Let’s keep this vibe alive! I’m a high desert girl, we get four seasons but they are gentle! No harsh anything.

The bond here has been incredible; and although i don’t post a whole lot of pithy, deep intellectual script, I enjoy what others share and learn so much. I’m a few sentence poster; mainly because I can only spare a few moments at a time and I’d rather read!!

AKM….MUDFLAT CONVENTION!! Let’s all just think about it, eh?

27 10 2008
Irish in FL

Goalie Sanka Palin in NM .. NM’s looking mighty good on that electoral map!!!

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Dear Jennifer Granholm of Michigan..

Go see the Austin Powers movie when they do 15 minutes on a mole.

You’re an attractive lady.. Get that gomer removed and you’d be just a little ole hottie..🙂

ok.. i’ll shut up now.

27 10 2008
Glenn200

Does anyone know whether Ted is a Maverick?

That could clearly make a lot of difference for keeping his seat.

If he is, the votes should become irrelevant. Mavericks* have simply the right to most things mortals could not even dream of.

*Unfortunately, until genetic science can unambiguously determine from a blood sample who is a Maverick, we need to take their word for it…

27 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

@Irish

You betcha.

Aren’t you sick of those two little words…

Yes, Yes, Yes…NM on board. We are turning all 5 of our votes Blue – AND losing Heather Wilson and Pete Dominici to Dems! All Five will be Democrat!

Pie contest at the CONVENTION anyone?

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

Marty, I’m watching the same thing and I thought it was a diamond embedded in her face or something–of course I’m across the room and my vision isn’t what it used to be…

Is she Dem or Pub? Cuz I liked what she had to say…

27 10 2008
Dianna

Mississippi heat – when I went through my first summer here, trying to breathe was like trying to suck through a blocked straw.

27 10 2008
Blaster Commando Community Organizer in Cecily

Crust Scramble–love the underground network in GA

Goalie Sanka–reserve a space for Blaster

27 10 2008
OFFICIALLY

It’s unlikely that Stevens is going to suffer any consequences for his conviction other than the humiliation and disgrace that come from being found guilty of felonious crimes. If Bush were to pardon him, nothing would change. He would still have been found guilty and still be disgraced in people’s eyes.
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

It is unlikely Bush can pardon Stevens. Until Stevens is sentenced which is now scheduled to be January 26, 2009 Stevens is not technically convicted. A yet a fully vetted felon if you will!

Stevens very likely is not going to win his seat, and Palin is going to miss the boat on that ticket to DC.

With Teds legal bills to make a case for appeal and no power left to help influential friends who have supported him to date Stevens is toast. He will do jail time. He wont get a pardon from Bush. The only thing Stevens could do to put off jail time is the same thing Bill Allen is doing; become a witness for the prosecution, Save Prince BEN (maybe) and take some more fish with him. Could SP be one of those fish? Lets hope so.

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

va is going blue… and even though my ex is psycho and votin for the repugs, me and both of my kids are votin obama! my son already voted absentee from school..

will be votin nov 4 and then will go wait for the good news..

Also, whos’ saw/watching Rachel? The right wingnuts have decided it was time to run ads on wright again.. didn’t they realize it didn’t do anything before?

27 10 2008
braveny

@Dragon Lady

Servopro the cleaning service? Do you need more folks to call them? From what you said, they are paid, do you have a receipt? more info please

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

lock pepper.. .she’s a dem and i thought kinda attractive.. but that was not an Ann Margaret or Marilyn Monroe cute mole, was a huge, honkin Austin Powers comedy mole.

Some things are a waste of money in plastic surgery.. I don’t think that would be a waste..!

27 10 2008
Irish in FL

Goalie Sanka Palin in NM….”NM on board. We are turning all 5 of our votes Blue”

YES….have a feeling those of us..as Crust Scramble so aptly says…who’re “running under the radar” will truly turn Florida BLUE..FINALLY!!

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Letterman is doing a Sarah Palin top 10..🙂 this should be good..

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

chuckle–i’m not goin’ there, she’s way prettier than me w or wo mole…but she was saying smart things about the evil one…

I wuz kinda hopin she’d be a repub so it would be even more hilarious!

27 10 2008
Trini

@Dianna: 19:36:25
Now, don’t go replacing signs. Tempting as it is. Not only is it beneath you, but you just might get your a$$ shot at!

My neighbor just told me that she early voted for McCain. Her heart wasn’t in it since her boyfriend controlled her vote. So sad. She said, “well it is what it is.” She wasn’t confident in her vote but was clearly pressured to vote that way. I feel so bad for her to not be able to vote as an American!

27 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

gotta catch Letterman’s Top 10 — Palin excuses for spending $150,000…

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Michelle Obama on Leno. She is classy, charming, well-spoken, funny, and just innately good-hearted. And, I bet her whole outfit cost less than a thou.

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

I HEART Michelle–I wanna be her! so generous and lovely…

she’s an Earth Mother archetype.

The White House will take on new class and beauty with her as the hostess–and those little cuties will bring life and joy!

27 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

Meanwhile on letterman, O’really is such a jackass!

Changing the channel…

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

10 Need to look good for the russians who can see me in alaska
9 Hell, the old man spends more on polident
8 Auditioning to be Paris Hiltons BFF
7 Wanted to impress the american voters in the evening gown competition
6 Maverick Joe the plumber maverick maverick willian Ayers You betcha!
5 I fell for the liberal retailers ‘gotcha sales tactics’
4 Because the dollar is so weak, it’s like i only spent $50.000
3 Hmmm Excuses? I’ll find a someand get right back atcha
2 In addition to every newspaper and magazine, I also read every catalog
1 The difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull..: Lipstick, Prada shoes, A gucci Handbag, and a few $3000 suits

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

lock pepper, you can say it.. she’s very attractive.. but umm. it’s gotta go..!

27 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Dianna (19:44:55) :

Denise,
Nice to meet you as well. Where did you escape to?
+++++++++++++++

The path meanders. First Georgia, then Phoenix, then Northern CA–wine country. Hic cup.

By far the best weather for me is in Northern CA. LOVE it. You can exercise outside most of the year. And leave the windows open.

27 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

Leno just asked Michelle about her wardrobe, “about $60,000?”

Nope…J Crew…loud applause!

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

And Michelle on Leno talks about her J Crew outfit which was quite flattering, also, too.

Loved the part where she talked about Malia not wanting her Dad to interfere with HER TV time?…no big head on that little lady!

Malia for president, 2044!

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Heh. Leno asked if Michellee’s clothes cost sixty thou. She got them from J. Crew!!!!@

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Bill Oreilly sucks.. but so far, he’s actually being fairly reasonable on letterman..

so far..

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

J Crew will give her clothes now.. she made them a million bucks..!🙂

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin, thanks. I was flicking back and forth but missed it because I deemed Michelle more important. She is so grounded. And so tall.

27 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Musta got stuck in the spam que…

but I repeat:

The lovely and good Michelle on Leno OR the Big, bad and ulgly O’Reilly on Letterman…

What to do…what to do

27 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

“when you memorize your talking points, it comes out sounding like crap.”

— O’really on Palin

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Oreilly is actually bordering on entertaining.. he’s very different with letterman.. cause he’s really terrified of dave..

he’s actually lucid and logical. If he wasn’t a total putz, i’d like him.

27 10 2008
Dianna

Trini,
No Way! Just joking about the signs.
I feel sorry for your neighbor. That situation doesn’t sound good at all.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

You guys are toooo fast. I bet JCrew’s stuff will fly off the rack tomorrow. Loved her ensemble–she looks good in yellow.

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Once again, Michelle, does good. Gracious, humble. forgiving, says nothing bad about the opposition.

Anonymous (19:36:53) :
Irish in FL (19:44:28) :

Running under the radar – I think there are millions of us. I live here in S. Ga. I grew up here. I know these people. I won’t deny what I think and believe, but I also won’t ‘cast my pearls among swine” and we’ve got some swine hanging out here in the state. But…I still think Georgia’s gonna end up blue.

Lock Pepper in Honolulu (19:47:08) :
I’m happy to be quiche.

27 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Hey mudpuppies!

Went to my daughter’s basic training graduation in South Carolina, or, as my husband said, “The red state tour”. Pics and stories on the blog.

Missed you guys, and what a wild week. I guessed Ted Stevens wouldn’t be found guilty on all of the charges…

If he actually wins the seat, what happens? Can he act as Senator from the pokey? We had a case in Missouri in which Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash shortly before the election and he STILL WON! The Democratic Party just put someone else in his place. Can the Republicans do that if Stevens wins? Holy Jesus, could they put Palin in?

27 10 2008
braveny

History repeats itself??? What is in the water up there in AK??

Ted Stevens claims innocence?

(http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/27/1599204.aspx)

27 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin

Ok.. he’s done for those who wanna put letterman back on..

But all in all, i liked his schtick on letterman.. he was funny and condescending when needed, and almost polite.. if i didn’t know what a total and complete mooseface he is on HIS show, i’d like him.

He made valid points and even expanded on Joey B losing his wife and child and he was very somber and polite about it.

All in all, I give him an A-

Better than the F he gets on his own show.

27 10 2008
Irish in FL

Crust Crumble…”Running under the radar – I think there are millions of us”

I do believe you’re right……………..

27 10 2008
Trini

Dianna, it’s sad, sad, sad. For some reason, women don’t know that no one can see into the voting booth. I think we must all remember that you can vote your conscience and not have to account to anyone. My dear friend is in a controlling situation and I feel so terribly for her. Then again, maybe she is just saying that she voted for McCain to cover her a$$?! Hope so.

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

We can have quiche at the mudflats convention this summer! I make a MEAN
quiche lorraine.

And if you’re a man (hard to tell from titles) you’re a REAL man! Cuz real men eat quiche!
Asian GRRRRL–you do the sweet potato pie…work for you?

Let’s all dress in J Crew…no rimless glasses or needless markup…deal?
Great idea goalie sanka!

Hey are we meetin on election night? I can’t think of an election party I’d rather attend than a mudpuppies live blog…

27 10 2008
Deejay

As an Arizonan who lived in Alaska for 25 years, I can say that folks who’ve only taken a cruise up the Inside Passage know little of Stevens. Stuff like this is just an interruption in the “real” news, even with Palin on the forefront. So, he’s more an embarrassment to Alaskans than anyone else. I think he should have bowed out several years but, with Mark Begich on the horizon, I couldn’t be happier with the timing!

27 10 2008
Lana, KY

Just my humble opinion, but I feel that what Sen. Ted Stevens was found guilty of was “small potatoes” compared to what Bush, Cheney & Rummy did by invading Iraq, under the pretext of WMD, but actually to get some type of control over their oil.
After all, most politicians, from the minor league small town magistrates all the way to the White House, gets some type of “favor” occasionally. Be it a pie or a little gravel on a road. You know what I mean ?
Not that it’s not wrong ~ just that it is a fact of life. Almost a tradition.

I also feel Barack is different. Maybe he can set a grand example. I sure hope so.

I’m still lovin’ ~ “The lyin’ witch’s wardrobe.”

27 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

New Thread

and you’ve got to know I love all you folks cause I don’t need to post first! go for it.

27 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Lock Pepper in Honolulu, um, ok, but that means I gotta practice first. Which is fine except I live alone! That’s ok, my brother will eat the practice pies as he loves sweet potato pie. So does my niece.

Hm. If someone told me how to vote, I would be gone in a heartbeat.

27 10 2008
copybook realist

Missing signs…like missing socks. Where do they go?

The dueling McCains explain

27 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

NEW THREAD, NEW THREAD, NEW THREAD,

27 10 2008
santa "rot pipeline" cruzin

@ Redwood Man – Santa Cruz, CA and Rob in Santa Cruz

Are you mudpuppies going to be downtown on Tuesday? There are parties scheduled at several venues, but I’d like to join mudflatters turning the Red Room BLUE!

OT but what’s a good Halloween costume for mudpuppies?

27 10 2008
copybook realist

asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN (20:21:28

I wore bought a yellow sweater last weekend and wore it prouidly to work today.

After work, I picked up my son from school and he says….Whats with that yellow…..so much for that sweater.

moral…few people can wear yellow….Cindy McCain and I are not among the few.

27 10 2008
bPoint

On O’Reilly.

Bill O’ is for Obama. Obama impressed Bill a great deal when he did the interview a couple of months back. I have watched Bill since the interview, and he seems to level the field forObama quite often, he doesn’t let his guests pile on with the wingnut stuff. I have watched him enough to know that he likes Obama more than enough. Bill O’Reilly will not vote for McCain.

27 10 2008
Melangell aka Missile Blunt Palin

Hey, Dianna!

*waves*

there are a bunch of us from the south. I’m over here near Columbia, SC, and I can almost see you from my deck! Does that mean I can be Secretary of Commerce, since I know so much about interstate stuff?!? *cheesy grin*

As for the Obama sign issue, that’s why I haven’t put one up. But I did donate! My first time EVER!!!

27 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

Hey, you guys–I WAS FIRST! Thanks Eyes Wide! Never happened for me before! YIPPPEEEE!

27 10 2008
Deuce2 AL/Axe Diesel Hussein

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (18:48:57) :
—————-
Perhaps you are reading something I am not. Your comment
has posted several times. I have counted at least four.
It has not been spammed. Honest!

27 10 2008
Deuce2 AL/Axe Diesel Hussein

Dianna (18:51:24) :

Anyone here from the deep south?
================
I’m in AL. I don’t think you can get much deeper. I am fine,
however this f*&%ing state is still beet red. The local
Dem office is a joke. I have written letters to the editor
of the local paper and still racism rules.

27 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

MelAngel-
I was in Columbia, SC for three days…I only saw one Obama sign. Was it yours? 🙂

We ate at the Villa (exit 63 off of 20, I think) and it was the most delicious spaghetti and meatballs I have ever had.

27 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

AKM – that old adage is never not true: power corrupts.

I just got home from camping and saw HWSNBN was complaining about Mudflatters first, second, third posts, etc.

FWI HWSNBN – Mudflatters is a community. Who the f– cares about improper grammer, not me. Go read a dictionary, bitch, and don’t mess with the Mudflatters. After reading your comments HWSNBN, I say Go Take a Shower and Chill Out, maybe after that you’ll hopefully be doing better. Quit criticizing ppl who you don’t think are as good as you, then hopefully you’ll have a life. Just sayin.

I can’t f-n wait til I’m the first post – go first poster Mudflatters!

27 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

Dick Cheney deserves to be tortured

Yes ____

N0 ____

27 10 2008
Ted Stevens Convicted on ALL 7 Counts! « Navy Blue Wife

[…] Mudflats has ruminations on the end of the Ted Stevens era. After witnessing politician after politician in Alaska ride off into the sunset to various private prisons scattered across the Lower 48, we are all struck with that old adage that “power corrupts”. I chatted with Mark Begich the other day and asked him how he was doing. He said he was hanging in there, but that these last few days felt like a lifetime. The next time I see him, I’m going to ask him how he is doing. Then I’m going to grab his tie, and pull him forehead-to-forehead. Then I’m going to look him square in the eyes from two inches away and say, “Don’t. Screw. Up.” The Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the white knights, and restore a modicum of respect to Alaskan politics. But power corrupts unless we are on our guard….however many years, or decades we hold elected office. […]

27 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

I say Dick Cheney should be tortured.

That’s just my opinion, what do you think?

27 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

HOW DO WE TORTURE DICK CHENEY?

That’s a good question.

Let’s start off with his fingers and toes being broken off while he watches a video of how people under his dictatorship have been tortured.

28 10 2008
Sir Pent

Cheney has always been my definition of “conflict of interest”.

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28 10 2008
Bev

Saw a photo of a Students for Obama office – and over the shoulder of one young man was a sign that read:
“I’m a Yard Sign. I can’t vote. Go knock on some Doors”

28 10 2008
Shutterbuggery

Catherine…you’re completely right. Wondering if Stevens will use a .357 Colt Python to blow his head off IS offensive.

He should use a shotgun like everybody else.

28 10 2008
Debbie

Now that Ted Stevens is a convicted felon, I guess that means he is no longer eligible to vote. He won’t even be able to cast a vote for himself, or McCain/Palin. Interesting… Also, no more dividends, no more energy supplements. Too bad, now that he’s got that big house, he could probably use some help with heating costs.

28 10 2008
Gone South

So Uncle Ted finally got caught. What else is new? How many times will we have to see a similar headline about another of Alaska’s elected getting something for their votes?
Only fools will feel sorry for him and vote him back to Washington. How much other stuff has he gotten in the last 40 years that he did not get caught for? Vote the fool out of office.

28 10 2008
Vaughn

What’s with Alaska and it’s leaders having the moral ethics of a… well just no ethics? Sarah Palin I’m sure will not be far behind, I hope.




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