Ted Stevens Juror Has “Violent Outbursts!”

23 10 2008

Well, this is strange… I wondered why the jury in the Ted Stevens trial asked to be dismissed 15 minutes early because they were too stressed out. What could be so stressful that you couldn’t stick it out for the final 15 minutes of the day?? The answer – Juror #9. Apparently Jurors 1-8, and Jurors 10-12, all want her gone.

Today, they passed U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan three notes, including one about the combative juror in question. The juror, No. 9, works for the National Guard as a bookkeeper.

Out of their presence, Sullivan read from the note the jury foreman sent him, which began, “We the jury request that juror No. 9 be removed from the jury.”

“She is being rude, disrespectful and unreasonable,” the foreman wrote. “She has had violent outbursts with other jurors and that’s not helping anyone. The jurors are getting off-course. She’s not following the laws and rules that are being stipulated to in the main instructions.”

Sullivan said out of the jury’s presence that he did consider asking the foreman to explain to the court what he meant by “violent,” because he had safety concerns.

Instead, the judge called the whole jury to the courtroom so he could remind them of their obligation to be civil to one another and foster an atmosphere of “mutual respect.

Judge Sullivan talked to the jury, and sent them back. So there they are, ready now to wrap up the second day of deliberations.

I’m guessing this isn’t stellar news for the prosecution, because obviously they’re not all in happy agreement about everything. But if it’s 11-1, that’s interesting too. Speculation is dangerous.

I actually saw Mark Begich today, and how the man is not on an intravenous Pepto Bismol drip is beyond me. Day three tomorrow…


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23 10 2008
MJC

McCain, Palin define ‘the elite’ (WATCH VIDEO)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27339865#27339865

**OH MAN THIS IS SO BAD! McCAIN SAID HE KNOWS WHERE THE ELITE LIVE…IN NEW YORK CITY AND WASHINGTON.

TWO OF THE CITIES HIT BY TERRORISTS ON 9/11?

23 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

wooh!

23 10 2008
craigg

Is it a plant?

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

She probably reminds them of SWWNBN.

23 10 2008
BigPete

Top 10 Mudflats Hit Parade…yeah

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

MJC (13:01:06) : **ACK*** I must wash my eyes out with bleach after seeing SWWNBN’s thigh-high skirt!!! Sheesh!

And insofar as McElitist’s statements, give me a break!!! He admits to going to those cocktail parties and living in NY and Washington… what does that make him then, according to his own definition? Jesus, does he even think? And when SWWNBN didn’t bite on the “geography” bait (mostly because she flunked geography), you see her stick her tongue in her cheek as her running mate starts to say where they live!!! She even knew enough to avoid that landmine!!! LOLOLOLOL

These two are beginning to look like a bad B movie.

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

oh and AKM…. IV Pepto just sounds bad. Ick

23 10 2008
NMJ

InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor (11:06:49) : …most years we (AK and HI) don’t really matter, right, because we don’t have that many electoral votes… Bet early reports from Eastern states won’t deter us from voting though!

InJuneau, you have it right. Stay the course! Ignore your 3 electoral votes; Obama is campaigning hard in other states with only 3. Alaska going blue will make a huge statement to the rest of the country, and the rest of the world. It would completely repudiate Palin and all of her policies, statements, associates, friends and actions.

And vote for Begich! He’s only leading by .6 points; he needs help, and the country needs him.

23 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

McCain/Palin just nailed there own coffin.

23 10 2008
phoebe

@Ripley

Interesting chemistry between John & Sarah. She just jumped in & answered the question in her own dumb way & he had the same sideways glare he gave to Obama. I think he’s starting to resent her & she’s starting to really assert herself. Great two loose cannons.

23 10 2008
Dee

To get a really clear view on how heartless the repub campaign is, go to HuffPO and watch the video of the guy saying how awful it is that Obama took his campaign plane to Hawaii to see Toot….”that guy should be humping his own bags on a commercial flight”. I am sure there are some perfectly nice repubs out there somewhere, but damn if any of them have been seen in a loooooong time.

23 10 2008
ira2

Maybe it’s the normal thing in a trial environment to go for “reminding the jurors of their obligation to be civil to one another and foster an atmosphere of “mutual respect””, but I’d guess that that has already been covered up to there in the jury room and the judge’s reminder won’t make a difference.
This reminds me of a lupus forum I participated in for a long time. There was a resident troll, a vicious and very, very creepy person, and we were always reminded that “all were welcome” and to basically show our tolerance with this unfortunate person (this was the drawback to the forum owners’ Christianity which was also the base for their wonderful generosity in matters of time, money and information.)

IT DON’T WORK.

Trolls and other viciously rude people, whether on a forum or a blog or in a jury room, don’t respond to reminders, admonishment, threats, intelligence, or anything else but their removal from wherever they’re spewing what they spew.

I will eat those words on a big serving of ice cream if the judge’s reminder changes that woman’s behavior in the jury room.

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

Apologies — this should have been on Bed Time, but wouldn’t post

Thanks to Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (10:42:42) and others who made comments on “McCain from the Drain.”

Here is some new stuff to add at the end:

And then he dived down
And, like news that’s called FOX
McCain from the drain
Pulled a big dripping box.
A big moldy box.
It was shut with a hook.
“Now look at this trick,”
Said McCain
“Take a look!”

Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game LIES-A-LA-FOX,”
Said McCain.
“In this box are two thugs
I will show to you now.
You can smell these two thugs,”
Said McCain with a bow.

“I will pick up the hook.
You will see something new.
Two thugs And I call them
Thug One and Thug Two.
These Thugs could just bite you.
They want to have fun.”
Then, out of the box
Came Thug Two and Thug One!
And they ran to us fast.
They said, “What will you do?
You had better shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two!”

And Sally and I
Did not know what to do.
So we had to shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two.
One Thug was Rush Limbaugh
Who ranted and raved.
Next came the Lieberman
Grasping power he’s craved.

They reared their two heads,
Just like Putin up north,
And we stood there aghast
As the slime tumbled forth.
We hoped they’d leave soon
Or crawl back down the drain
‘Cause they stank and they dripped
Worse than old John McCain!

You can read the latest version of the earlier rhyme “The Nomination of Sarah P.” at

http://spacestevie.multiply.com/journal/item/662/With_apologies_to_Sam_McGee

A mudpuppy suggested getting these into print. Believe me, I’m trying, and suggestions welcome.

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Dang…had to take a break for a shower (I am forgetting the simple rules of hygiene while addicted to Mudflats), and here is another thread!!

I was listening to Hardball while showering and heard that Karl Rove was blasting the McCain campaign over McCain continually blasting the Bush Administration…

They are starting to feast upon their own…..

Hardy har har

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

Thanks to Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (10:42:42) and others who made comments on “McCain in the Drain.”

Here is some new stuff to add at the end:

And then he dived down
And, like news that’s called FOX
McCain from the drain
Pulled a big dripping box.
A big moldy box.
It was shut with a hook.
“Now look at this trick,”
Said McCain
“Take a look!”

Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game LIES-A-LA-FOX,”
Said McCain.
“In this box are two thugs
I will show to you now.
You can smell these two thugs,”
Said McCain with a bow.

“I will pick up the hook.
You will see something new.
Two thugs And I call them
Thug One and Thug Two.
These Thugs could just bite you.
They want to have fun.”
Then, out of the box
Came Thug Two and Thug One!
And they ran to us fast.
They said, “What will you do?
You had better shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two!”

And Sally and I
Did not know what to do.
So we had to shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two.
One Thug was Rush Limbaugh
Who ranted and raved.
Next came the Lieberman
Grasping power he’s craved.

They reared their two heads,
Just like Putin up north,
And we stood there aghast
As the slime tumbled forth.
We hoped they’d leave soon
Or crawl back down the drain
‘Cause they stank and they dripped
Worse than old John McCain!

You can read the latest version of the earlier rhyme “The Nomination of Sarah P.” at

http://spacestevie.multiply.com/journal/item/662/With_apologies_to_Sam_McGee

A mudpuppy suggested getting these into print. Believe me, I’m trying, and suggestions welcome.

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

wondering why it’s difficult to post now

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Goalie Sanka Palin in NM (13:20:24) “They are starting to feast upon their own…..”

Thinking about the Donner party on that one…. ewwwww!!

LOL, now that’s how I’m going to think of the repuglican party…. AKA the Donner Party! I can see it now…

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

Thanks to Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (10:42:42) and others who made comments on “McCain in the Drain.”

Here is some new stuff to add at the end:

And then he dived down
And, like news that’s called FOX
McCain from the drain
Pulled a big dripping box.
A big moldy box.
It was shut with a hook.
“Now look at this trick,”
Said McCain
“Take a look!”

Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game LIES-A-LA-FOX,”
Said McCain.
“In this box are two thugs
I will show to you now.
You can smell these two thugs,”
Said McCain with a bow.

“I will pick up the hook.
You will see something new.
Two thugs And I call them
Thug One and Thug Two.
These Thugs could just bite you.
They want to have fun.”
Then, out of the box
Came Thug Two and Thug One!
And they ran to us fast.
They said, “What will you do?
You had better shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two!”

And Sally and I
Did not know what to do.
So we had to shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two.
One Thug was Rush Limbaugh
Who ranted and raved.
Next came the Lieberman
Grasping power he’s craved.

They reared their two heads,
Just like Putin up north,
And we stood there aghast
As the slime tumbled forth.
We hoped they’d leave soon
Or crawl back down the drain
‘Cause they stank and they dripped
Worse than old John McCain!

You can read the latest version of the earlier rhyme “The Nomination of Sarah P.” at

spacestevie.multiply.com/journal/item/662/With_apologies_to_Sam_McGee

A mudpuppy suggested getting these into print. Believe me, I’m trying, and suggestions welcome.

23 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "ThatOne"

upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod (13:08:05) :

Heather Wilson’s opponent is Martin Heinrich:

You can donate at his Act Blue page:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18006

hose Hussein hotrod

Let’s do this!!!

23 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

Good article read on Huff from Washington Independent — Alaskans Don’t Recognize Palin Anymore!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/alaskans-we-dont-recogniz_n_137271.html

NMJ – saw your post on last thread. If RePugs had a brain, they’d be deadly!!!!

It this insensitivity that will nail it shut for any undecided voters. McDaddy & SP — should be interesting to see & hear them for the 2 days as to how they handle this.

23 10 2008
Woods Corp P.

Will Obama make a campaign stop in Alaska? Even though his campainging there won’t likely change the electorial votes, it might win him support in other states by appearing in Palin’s state.

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

Thanks to Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA and others who made comments on “McCain from the Drain.”

Here is some new stuff to add at the end:

And then he dived down
And, like news that’s called FOX
McCain from the drain
Pulled a big dripping box.
A big moldy box.
It was shut with a hook.
“Now look at this trick,”
Said McCain
“Take a look!”

Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game LIES-A-LA-FOX,”
Said McCain.
“In this box are two thugs
I will show to you now.
You can smell these two thugs,”
Said McCain with a bow.

“I will pick up the hook.
You will see something new.
Two thugs And I call them
Thug One and Thug Two.
These Thugs could just bite you.
They want to have fun.”
Then, out of the box
Came Thug Two and Thug One!
And they ran to us fast.
They said, “What will you do?
You had better shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two!”

And Sally and I
Did not know what to do.
So we had to shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two.
One Thug was Rush Limbaugh
Who ranted and raved.
Next came the Lieberman
Grasping power he’s craved.

They reared their two heads,
Just like Putin up north,
And we stood there aghast
As the slime tumbled forth.
We hoped they’d leave soon
Or crawl back down the drain
‘Cause they stank and they dripped
Worse than old John McCain!

You can read the latest version of the earlier rhyme “The Nomination of Sarah P.” at

spacestevie.multiply.com/journal/item/662/With_apologies_to_Sam_McGee

A mudpuppy suggested getting these into print. Believe me, I’m trying, and suggestions welcome.

23 10 2008
Bobg

McCain is cutting money in Pa, Wis. and N.H. What is going on in this campaign? This is done all of the time; shifting money around. You don’t broadcast it though! Broadcasting it sends the message that all hope is lost and there’s no sense voting. What a stupid campaign tactic!

23 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

So Juror number 9 is being all Mavericky??? Does not have to follow the rules??? Hmmmm I am starting to think global warming is affecting the water in Alaska.

23 10 2008
shell from Ohio

I saw this on CNN right before I left work today. I didn’t have time to read it. I knew I could count on it being posted here.

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

AKM, how about a blog on SWWNBN dropping another puck and the inevitable curse which will be wrought upon St. Louis because of it?

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Let’sGetReal for “ThatOne” (13:25:34),

Heather is outta here. She LOST in the primary to Steve Pearce for Pete Domenici’s Senate Seat. Tom Udall is running against Pearce…he has it well in hand.

Martin Heinrich should win her vacated congressional seat. But, he can still use the money!!

That will turn over 2 more Dem seats to us!….Whoopie..

23 10 2008
NMJ

Goalie Sanka Palin in NM (13:20:24) :</B I was listening to Hardball while showering and heard that Karl Rove was blasting the McCain campaign over McCain continually blasting the Bush Administration…

They are starting to feast upon their own…..

I think the Rethugs are learning the same hard lesson it took the Dems so many decades to learn: if you’re a moderate (in this case, moderate Rethug) and you don’t stand up and speak up, your party will be driven by the losing faction. To paraphrase Aesop (I think): The squeaky wheel gets the oil!

23 10 2008
NMJ

Geeze, my fingers are getting tangled. Sorry for the sloppy code…

23 10 2008
Lil' Geese Whalebone Palin

Proud Community OrganizerWA (13:30:11) :

So Juror number 9 is being all Mavericky??? Does not have to follow the rules??? Hmmmm I am starting to think global warming is affecting the water in Alaska.

But the trial is in DC……….. I know there is something in the water there!!!!

23 10 2008
SoCal Gal

OT: Ok my fellow Mudpuppies…just a little ‘time out’ for a good chuckle.

The Obama / McCain dance off with a surprise entrance of you know who…turn up sound.

http://www.break.com/index/unbelievable-mccain-vs-obama-dance-off.html

23 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

Bobg
Here is an article from Huff that explains the budgetary media moves being played by McCain. “media analysts and political observers caution that the effect may be marginal.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/john-mccains-prudent-and_n_136729.html

23 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Lil Geese,

Forgive me! LMAO I just have Alaska on the brain!

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

Apologies for posting on this thread — it wouldn’t post on Bedtime

Thanks to Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (10:42:42) and others who made comments on “McCain from the Drain.”

Here is some new stuff to add at the end:

And then he dived down
And, like news that’s called FOX
McCain from the drain
Pulled a big dripping box.
A big moldy box.
It was shut with a hook.
“Now look at this trick,”
Said McCain
“Take a look!”

Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game LIES-A-LA-FOX,”
Said McCain.
“In this box are two thugs
I will show to you now.
You can smell these two thugs,”
Said McCain with a bow.

“I will pick up the hook.
You will see something new.
Two thugs And I call them
Thug One and Thug Two.
These Thugs could just bite you.
They want to have fun.”
Then, out of the box
Came Thug Two and Thug One!
And they ran to us fast.
They said, “What will you do?
You had better shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two!”

And Sally and I
Did not know what to do.
So we had to shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two.
One Thug was Rush Limbaugh
Who ranted and raved.
Next came the Lieberman
Grasping power he’s craved.

They reared their two heads,
Just like Putin up north,
And we stood there aghast
As the slime tumbled forth.
We hoped they’d leave soon
Or crawl back down the drain
‘Cause they stank and they dripped
Worse than old John McCain!

You can read the latest version of the earlier rhyme “The Nomination of Sarah P.” at

http://spacestevie.multiply.com/journal/item/662/With_apologies_to_Sam_McGee

A mudpuppy suggested getting these into print. Believe me, I’m trying, and suggestions welcome.

23 10 2008
TJ

If I were David Plouffe, I’d be trying to schedule two appearences for Obama above all others. On Nov. 1st, get onto SNL. Doesn’t matter what he does, as long as it’s funny.

On Nov. 3rd, do the Daily Show. Nothing will make sure that the strongly Obama-leaning young vote gets out the next day like Obama sitting down with John Stewart.

And in between, fly down south, and hit Florida hard. In the meantime, Biden goes to Ohio/Pennsylvania/Virginia/West Virginia to get Joe Sixpack into the voting booth.

Even though I’m in Colorado, I’d love to see the election decided before the polls here even close. If I’m reading the electoral map right, Obama getting the combo of FL/OH/VA/WV/PA, along with the states where he’s far ahead, that should be enough to secure the map by the time the Central timezone is counted.

23 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

close you eyes see it…….
Alaska …….turning blue…………turning blue…….
if you believe it………it will happen……..i don’t even live in alaska and i want you to be blue so bad……..i don’t know why …….may be a statement to repugs who just seems to think all of us will just roll over for the next 4 years………but mostly i think……….it is because you guys started all of this and with out you……..what might have happened on election day because the rest of us did not have the information on mcshames and his new playmate.
all of you……. have done a very brave thing……….you may have really saved the USA………..yaaaaaa ror alaska

23 10 2008
More Light Than Heat

@ BobG
Wasn’t it earlier this week when they were pulling money out of NM, CO and IA that they said they would put all their effort into PA to make up those 21 electoral votes? Methinks they’re about broke and facing reality. Long, serial interview with Brian Williams = free air time in prime time on major network over several days with a reasonably sympathetic questioner. Notice how they’re essentially repeating the talking points whenever they can and doing their negative stuff at no $$$ cost. But, ya know, they just can’t keep things straight even then. And when you toss in their surrogates sounding like such idiots on their behalf, why, with friends like them, who needs enemies?!?!?

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

If the jury does not outright convict, I hope Stevens’ colleagues in the Senate do the right thing and impeach his sorry tarkus.

But I hold out hope for the jury to fulfill their destiny. Juror #9’s destiny does not include being known as the woman who kept the Alaska’s OJ from his destiny with a prison cell. Let it be known, my prediction is that Ted will lose his pre-title for a new sub-title: convict.

23 10 2008
NMJ

TJ (13:40:50) : If I were David Plouffe, I’d be trying to schedule two appearences for Obama above all others. On Nov. 1st, get onto SNL. Doesn’t matter what he does, as long as it’s funny.

On Nov. 3rd, do the Daily Show.

TJ, yes to the Daily Show (I’d love to see that!), no to SNL. As much as I enjoy SNL, it’s been pretty much noted by the media and the polls that SNL either made no difference or promoted a negative image of SP. It only increased her popularity with those who already liked her.

Dang! It’s sure hard to type today.

23 10 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

MJC (13:01:06) :

SNL are going to get some mileage out of that!

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Tom Ridge was saying on Hardball that PA was a must win for them…uh, good luck with that!

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Hey Mudpups..

I posted a notice before about a racist idiot in NM, and no, not Heather Ugly Hair Wilson.. This donk is the head of the NM GOP, Marcia Stirman.

Time to go to work, mudlings..!

Here’s the Salon Storyline..

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/10/23/muslim_socialist/index.html

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter (13:53:05)

Doh!

I should have made that connection, fer cryin’ out loud!

They have asked for her to step down. She refuses to make apologies. Bleah, what nutjob.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Look at Georgia go

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/23/could_georgia_flip_to_the_democrats.html

Wow, see, there’s hope for Alaska!

23 10 2008
Linda in Virginia

Got this robocall today here in central Virginia:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/reports-of-new-anti-obama_n_137311.html

It’s Tom Ridge identifying himself as having been Director of Homeland Security. He totally mischaracterized Biden’s remarks, saying something along the lines that Biden recently admitted that Obama was inexperienced and not prepared to deal with a crisis that may come after the election. Also that Obama would talk to terrorists and protect their civil rights. Unfortunately, being a lot slower than I used to be, I didn’t get any of this word for word, but this was the gist.

Maybe someone else in Virginia can be better prepared than I was and get it on tape (or write really fast!)

23 10 2008
LibertyLover

Does this jury need a unanimous verdict? Or is a valid preponderance of evidence enough?

23 10 2008
MJC

Crust Scramble,

Yes, there is hope for us, Hurray!!! I read that Bill Clinton will be in Georgia for a Fundraisor for Jim Martin. I don’t know why they couldn’t make a Rally out of it? I’ve been waiting on Obama or Biden to come to Georgia.😦

23 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

Since SNL has come up–did you read on HuffPo that wardrobe had a devil of a job with Sarah because she wanted to wear “nicer” clothes than SNL had picked out? They had to explain Tina Fey had created the character in the red jacket, i.e. before the full makeover had occurred, and it was important they both looked alike.

The second appearance with the rap number was the compromise. Sarah insisted she came back in her own “nice” clothes.

These clothes aren’t going anywhere when this is all over.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Oh this is funny! Paul Hipp on Bachmann & Tinklenburg

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/whats-the-word-tinklenber_b_137161.html

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

I respectfully disagree, Canadian. If the Republicans had a brain, this country would not be in its current mess.

23 10 2008
NMJ

Forty Watt Hussein (14:01:22) : The second appearance with the rap number was the compromise. Sarah insisted she came back in her own “nice” clothes.

These clothes aren’t going anywhere when this is all over.

What about the $15,000+ they’ve spent on hair and makeup so far? They can’t give that back! That’s something she’s going to have to declare to the IRS.

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Linda – please remember that Tom Ridge’s idea of preparing for disaster is limited to having handy a sheet of polyethylene and a roll of duck tape. Tom Ridge, former governor of pennsyltucky, has no room to complain or comment about another person’s level of competency.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Me. too, MJC. I’m just so amazed that this state might end up being pink or light blue! I heard over 800,000 people had already voted early. Amazing!

23 10 2008
mudslide pike
23 10 2008
mudslide pike

That isn’t a good thing for Uncle Ted

23 10 2008
gary aka khaki salmon palin

Apologies for posting on this tread, but it wouldn’t post on Bedtime…
Thanks to Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (10:42:42) and others who made comments on “McCain from the Drain.”

Here is some new stuff to add at the end:

And then he dived down
And, like news that’s called FOX
McCain from the drain
Pulled a big dripping box.
A big moldy box.
It was shut with a hook.
“Now look at this trick,”
Said McCain
“Take a look!”

Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game LIES-A-LA-FOX,”
Said McCain.
“In this box are two thugs
I will show to you now.
You can smell these two thugs,”
Said McCain with a bow.

“I will pick up the hook.
You will see something new.
Two thugs And I call them
Thug One and Thug Two.
These Thugs could just bite you.
They want to have fun.”
Then, out of the box
Came Thug Two and Thug One!
And they ran to us fast.
They said, “What will you do?
You had better shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two!”

And Sally and I
Did not know what to do.
So we had to shake hands
With Thug One and Thug Two.
One Thug was Rush Limbaugh
Who ranted and raved.
Next came the Lieberman
Grasping power he’s craved.

They reared their two heads,
Just like Putin up north,
And we stood there aghast
As the slime tumbled forth.
We hoped they’d leave soon
Or crawl back down the drain
‘Cause they stank and they dripped
Worse than old John McCain!

You can read the latest version of the earlier rhyme “The Nomination of Sarah P.” at

spacestevie.multiply.com/journal/item/662/With_apologies_to_Sam_McGee

A mudpuppy suggested getting these into print. Believe me, I’m trying, and suggestions welcome.

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

McCain held a rally in Harrisburg the other day. Outside, waiting for the door to open were a group of black teens from a scitech high school a few blocks away from the venue. Those who had them, took off their Obama buttons prior to entering. Some were in the process of putting those buttons back on when a white woman started yelling at them about welfare and other schitt. Only their chaperone came to their defense. All the others coming out of the venue doors just looked and remained silent.

Welcome to racism, pennsyltucky style. Where black kids get inappropriate comments made to them and the white pro-McCain witnesses stand silently by.

23 10 2008
NMJ

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (14:02:15) : Oh this is funny! Paul Hipp on Bachmann & Tinklenburg

Thanks for that link, Crust! Very cleverly done – and now I can pronounce his name. Link saved to my Humor folder.

23 10 2008
Road Runner

GUYS AND GALS!!!

I just heard from another Dem candidate in Minnesota who can use some $$ help. He is an Iragi vet, has the same objectives as Obama. His seat has been in Repug hands for 50 years. Would be great to unseat the incumbent.
Check out his webiste:
http://www.madiaforcongress.com

23 10 2008
Joan aka Timber Challange palin

WOW, Joe S. just said on MSNBC that when you get to the point of being seen bad-mouthing the sitting pres. (who is still the leader of your party!), then you really ARE in trouble. Too little too late, Rove; we aren’t celebrating just yet, but we ARE buyin’ the champagne!! 😉

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

On Ms. Stirman (bigot, racist, wingnut) in New Mexico:

Stirman told the Journal she stood by her comments. “It’s pretty strong but it’s exactly how I feel, ” Stirman said in the interview. “And it’s exactly how a lot of people I know feel. They just wish they had ben able to say it. People need to stand up and not take it anymore when they believe something else than what the media has protrayed….I’ve had a lot of people say, “Way to go.””

Asked if she believes Obama is the enemy, Stirman added, “I think so.”

Speaking to the AP on Tuesday, Stirman said of Muslims, “I don’t trust them at all. They’ve sworn across the world that they are our enemies. Why we’re trying to elect one is beside me.”

FYI – Marcia Stirman is the Otero County Republican Women’s Chair. She is also credited with saying, “I believe in a sovereign God who sometimes gives us what we deserve. I believe Muslims are our enemies”.

Just the kind of publicity we want in our fair State…Oy…

23 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

You are right on that. My comment was wrong. Sorry.

23 10 2008
BarbinDC

The fact that one juror in the Stevens trial is causing problems leads me to believe there will be a hung jury. I’m just surprised that it’s seems to be only one. I have served on two jury trials and also on the Grand Jury (an experience so awful that I will go to jail rather than serve again) and can easily see how this could happen. Plus, here in DC, there are some strange racial tensions which NONE of us–white, black, or latino–have learned to navigate particularly well. Except for Barack Obama, that is.

This means that all you good folk up North will have to decide whether to keep Sen. Stevens or kick him to the curb without the help of us in these lowly parts. Sorry. I hope I’m wrong about this.

23 10 2008
Bea

Someone on DU made the observation that the $150K might just be the bill for September’s wardrobe for the Alaskan Queen Crab and that they might have spent even MORE earlier this month before the moose poop hit the fan.

Wouldn’t THAT be interesting??? Though we likely wouldn’t get that info until after 11/4.

As for McInsane’s disparaging og “Georgetown cocktail parties”, he is WIDELY known as the biggest star-f**ker (pardonez mon francais) in town and a guaranteed guest at any fancy shindig going down in DC.

23 10 2008
NMJ

Road Runner (14:13:48) : I just heard from another Dem candidate in Minnesota who can use some $$ help. He is an Iragi vet, has the same objectives as Obama. His seat has been in Repug hands for 50 years. Would be great to unseat the incumbent.

Madia has risen 6 points since 8/28. He is currently 3 pts in the lead, in a state that Intrade predicts has a 91% chance of going blue. Not saying he doesn’t need help, just saying he’s doing really good. He can probably thank Bachman for that. The greatest gift ever to MN Dems!

23 10 2008
PaulaOKC

While you’ve got your checkbook out, Scott Rice is trying to defeat Sen. Jim Inhofe. Inhofe has been in the Senate for 22 years and needs to be put out to pasture. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. In Oklahoma any contribution can make a big difference. Buying a spot on an Andy Griffith rerun only costs $15. Time on The View sells for $130 per 30 seconds. He can even advertise on the Today Show for only $250.

He will be buying his last media buy tomorrow morning so every extra contribution in the next 15 hours means that we can reach that many more voters.

You can go to andrewforoklahoma.com or you can donate on actblue.com

23 10 2008
Lorrie

EVERYONE!! WE CAN’T GET COMPLACENT!

The polls are looking good but we need to IGNORE them and assume that this race is dead even! (Even in states that aren’t ‘battlegrounds’)

Everyone needs to find the closest Obama campaign office and walk in and say “I’m here to help”. I did last week and it felt great! They won’t make you do anything you’re not comfortable with. If you don’t want to make phone calls or knock on doors… you can do data entry or stuff envelopes. Tonight I’m going to a training to be a “poll watcher”.

Repubs have always been better at “getting out the vote” in the final stretch. NOT THIS TIME! We can’t wake up on Nov. 5th regretting that we didn’t do enough.

23 10 2008
23 10 2008
Blue Idaho

sorry sad Dance I read that wronge!

23 10 2008
plooger

Crazy Juror #9 doesn’t bode well at all; tends towards hung jury and mistrial, right?

I actually saw Mark Begich today, and how the man is not on an intravenous Pepto Bismol drip is beyond me. Day three tomorrow…

What a hoot.

23 10 2008
Whiskey Otter Hussein

Who is McCain kidding? Like Bea stated, he LOVES the celebrities. Here he is getting on Anne Hathaway’s boyfriend’s yacht (before the guy went to prison recently):

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080929/berman_ames

Apparently McCain and the con man have a common lobbyist (now campaign manager) in Rick Davis.

23 10 2008
NMJ

Bea (14:23:04) : Someone on DU made the observation that the $150K might just be the bill for September’s wardrobe for the Alaskan Queen Crab and that they might have spent even MORE earlier this month before the moose poop hit the fan.

Here’s the breakdown, courtesy of washington.com:

The Budget Breakdown
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/22/AR2008102203866.html?sid=ST2008102202381&s_pos=list

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

OFF TOPIC:

Found this slide show of SWWNBN’s fashion fix. Someone asked the other night for a decent set of pictures of her new wardrobe so as to see if she keeps them. Lucky for us, this shows not only those, but the horrid clothes she used to wear. Ill fitting, bad colors…. just NO fashion sense. No wonder they needed to go all “Color Forms” on her. What a nightmare. I just wish she had used her own money….the moocher.

23 10 2008
Blue Idaho

Oh It’s happy you just have to open it up! Sorry!

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

OFF TOPIC:

Found this slide show of SWWNBN’s fashion fix. Someone asked the other night for a decent set of pictures of her new wardrobe so as to see if she keeps them. Lucky for us, this shows not only those, but the horrid clothes she used to wear. Ill fitting, bad colors…. just NO fashion sense. No wonder they needed to go all “Color Forms” on her. What a nightmare. I just wish she had used her own money….the moocher.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/photos/popupV2.asp?SubID=4259&page=33&GTitle=Sarah%20Palin%3A%20Before%20and%20After

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

sorry about the double post… I had forgotten the link and thought I caught it before I had blasted it out to the intertubes.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

BarbinDC (14:18:24) :

The fact that one juror in the Stevens trial is causing problems leads me to believe there will be a hung jury.

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Don’t they have alternate jurors? If she keeps making problems (violence, etc.) the Judge can kick her off and one of the alternates could take over – yes? Any attorneys around?

23 10 2008
West Virginian

MJC–I couldn’t watch much of that video. I guess they keep shortening her skirts for sex appeal. She says she and McCain are for the middle class!! I consider myself middle-class and I sure haven’t spent $150,000 on clothes lately. McCain can’t even begin to understand how the average, middle-class person lives.

I’m at a medical conference with about 3900 people. The speaker had a chart with a red line for patients with poor outcomes and a blue line at the top with where we would like them to be. At the end of the talk he said we need to go from red to blue. One person started clapping and he said “one person gets it”. Of course then we all did. I have to say most of the filled room started clapping!

23 10 2008
NMJ

Oops! washington.com = washingtonpost.com

23 10 2008
divatalk Hussein

Hey everyone,
Ok. I started this a few weeks ago and go some response Now is our last shot to say ENOUGH! Join us in participating in our National Day of Support on October 29th. (the day Obama addresses the nation). Below is excerpt from blog post.

Enough! That is the battlecry of this year’s election. Americans have had enough of deceit, secrecy, financial and economic crisis, war and the overall failed policies of the last 8 years. We have had it and are ready for a change.

In an effort to share our outcry and to let the nation know where we stand, we are calling for a National Day of Support. We are rallying our supporters together to turn our country Blue.

To symbolize that support, you can purchase the Enough t-shirt to wear on October 29th the day Senator Barack Obama addresses the nation in a 30 minute televised event. Let’s show our country that we have had ENOUGH and are ready to take back our country.. go to http://wecannoturnback.blogspot.com

Make sure you check out the video on the blog
Love to get your feedback!

23 10 2008
divatalk Hussein

I posted this yesteray, but just in case you guys did not get it.
If you do not want to receive the robocalls, go to http://www.stoppoliticalcalls.org

Let people know who are in swing states.

23 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

@NMJ (13:08:38) :

Well of COURSE I’m going to vote for Mark…haven’t voted for Ted in the 20 years I could vote in this state and I’m certainly not starting now. And we’ll all be off voting between now and Nov. 4, even if we do only have 3 electoral votes (think blue, think blue, think deep dark blue!).

23 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

@Crust Scramble – SouthGA (14:36:51) :

There are 4 alternate jurors, and I think the judge told them not to stray far and to avoid the news in case they needed to be pulled back in.

23 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

So Funny. For any of us obsessed pol-junkies who can still laugh at ourselves.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-david/waiting-for-nov-4th_b_137029.html

When I really ought to be writing something completely unrelated, and considering how to go about making a living again, I keep coming back here. Today I was rewarded by this link to “Outfoxed: Rupert Murdock’s War on Journalism” on an earlier thread. Have already passed it on twice, to 2 brilliant Dem friends, as well as 1 rabidly Fox-pickled repug friend.
Great 45 min. video, worth your time:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/45.html

And many thanks to whoever posted this earlier. There are many folks – otherwise worthy, kind and likeable people – who actually believe what they hear on Fox News. For those of us who are immune to it, it is hard to fathom. It is so strangely unsettling to try to reason with these friends or find common ground. That video, and the Actual Text of the Rovian Playbook, at least lets us know what we are up against.
Can we become one country again?

23 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Is it just me or is Rick Davis—– (as Olbermann would say) the WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!

23 10 2008
divatalk Hussein

AKM, do you have photos of Brian and Brenda. Am working on a project and they would come in handy. Thanks

There are a couple Brian & Brenda pics on the blog. Just use the search tool on the right. You can use whatever you’d like. AKM

23 10 2008
Laura Lee (LA) aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (14:02:15) :

Oh this is funny! Paul Hipp on Bachmann & Tinklenburg

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HOLY COW I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I definitely have some nice thank you cards to send out after November 4th:)

23 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

from last thread @Rose in PA (13:19:12) :

Oh, I am so sorry to hear that they still haven’t won…as someone said before–it’s the Curse of the Palin-bino. Quick, someone tell St. Louis that they need to rethink their offer!

23 10 2008
Rapture Spenard Palin

The Palin Plank Talk had me giggling hysterically. Perhaps she thinks McCain is a carpenter.

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

I’m sorry to ask this of you guys, but please take SWWNBN back!!!! Just watched the latest installment of Brian Williams interview. She “refuses to label” herself when asked if she was a feminist!j Whoa – wait “pro-America”, “Molly the dental hygenist”, ad naseum…. wasn’t she the one dishing out labels like M&Ms? Enough labels to incite hateful responses from her ever dwindling crowds? UGHHHHHH ENOUGH ALREADY!! Isn’t there an Alaskan version of Alba? Can’t you guys send her into exile? Please…

23 10 2008
Laura Lee (LA) aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin

P.S. I’m sure a bunch of leg men are seeing fuzzy and starry eyed after viewing Numnuts…she looks more and more like a whore every day.

By the way I feel so mean for saying that…I haven’t used such viciousness since high school!!!

23 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

Good grief, Scotty McClennan, one-time voice of GWBush, has endorsed Obama for Pres.

I am not sure what the heck to make of that!

23 10 2008
Michele

My, my. Aren’t we just feeling a little impressed with our new $150,000 look?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/sarah-palin-on-snl-costum_n_137248.html

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Laura Lee (LA) aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin (14:49:41) :

By the way I feel so mean for saying that…I haven’t used such viciousness since high school!!!

LMAO!! This WHOLE campaign has been “high schooly”.

23 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

I just heard that Scott Mccellen is voting for Obama also!!! Geez, they are jumping ship!

Boy, he will get tarred and feathered by right wing radio tomorrow!!!

23 10 2008
Dragon Lady

6:43 – drat! I had it on the wrong channel and missed Barbie and Dad.

Came in only for the looooonnnnnggggg run on sentence about not labeling herself a feminist or no.

How did she get through her marriage vows? I do also . . .

23 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Sorry, but the RNC is pimpin Palin for male votes!

23 10 2008
divatalk Hussein

I wanted to share this with you guys to show just how this blog has brought peope together.

Yesterday thanks to being on this blog, MartyVA, mentioned he was going to the rally in VA. I had never been to a rally and had vowed to attend at least one to see Obama.

He graciously offered to allow me to carpool with him along with my 17 y/o son.

We met and had a great time. There were tons of people and while we were standing in line waiting to go in, someone overheard us talking about how we met through this Alaskan blog. She immediately piped in “you mean Mud
Flats!” She said she had been a lurker and had not posted any comments, but totally loves the blog too. We suggested for her to join the community and to by all means post.

I never got her name, so if you are still lurking, “come on in the snow is fine”

Marty and I grabbed something to eat before he dropped me off at the metro. I was great conversation. My son admitted he was glad he went.

Thanks Mudflats for helping to bring us together.

Thanks again Marty for your generosity. It’s amazing I believe Mudflats and Obama bring out all that is good in everyone.

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

can someone explain why McDroopy doesn’t wear a tie in interviews? He looks like he should be wearing slippers and gnoshin’ on cheese and crackers in his barkerlounger.

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Thanks Divatalk Hussein!

Very cool indeed.

Together is how we win this election!

23 10 2008
Bea

Marty and divatalk, what a great mini-mini-Mudstock!

<judi hussein that one Obama (14:43:27) :

Is it just me or is Rick Davis—– (as Olbermann would say) the WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!

NO, you are not. I would like to see Davis literally tarred and feathered and forced to walk backwards off the Bridge to Nowhere.

23 10 2008
Regi

I just heard a republican insisting the Bush tax cuts were a ‘success’. Um for who? So glad my nephew put his life on the line so these greedy assholes can pay even less taxes under McCain. You know what? If you don’t want to pay taxes in the US, leave the freaking country !

23 10 2008
SMR

@oregon steve: I have been wishing & wishing & wishing, and doing & doing & doing — and that’s all that we can do. Wish & hope & do, repeat until Bible Spice has been drummed out of politics here in AK. With luck she will have to go to Alabama or Mississippi or some such place to get back into politics. There are lots of republicans here, but I don’t think there are as many religious funamentalist repubs as she’d like to think. If she manages to make it through to re-election, then gets re-elected this state is officially sh!t — I say that as someone born & raised here. I wish that I could be more upbeat about it, but heard a few days ago that someone who plays hockey with a bunch of Anchorage police officers was upset that so many of them are voting McLame. I thought for sure he’d have lost their vote with Bible Spice as running mate, seeing as how she shat all over Monegan. And of course they are in a union, and don’t seem to get that voting repub is like sh!tting in your own nest. The firemen get it, won’t don’t the police officers? And Alaska is full of military folk who don’t seem to get that Obama/Biden have been far more supportive of the military than the old POW. People should not be allowed to vote until they educate themselves about the candidates — think what a difference that would make to how campaigns are conducted and the results.

Thanks for the warm thoughts for Alaska, Steve, we need all of the help that we can get. And it’s really really cold here, so the warm thoughts help in that regard as well.

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (14:57:59)

If you remember how he looked in the second debate with that red tie hanging weird (very weird, IMHO) and how ill fitting his suit looked as he “wandered” around the stage…

He doesn’t fit the suit or the presidency!!

23 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Right on Tired Mom – She won’t label herself! I am asleep. Let’s see:

Hockey mom
Reformer
Maverick
Mom (lather, rinse, repeat four more times)
Moose Killer

And yes, what is it?
Terrorist pal
Socialist
ACORN election stealer

and how about Joe the Plumber Who Doesn’t Have a Plumber’s License?

23 10 2008
Rope Hoover Recoil Zoo Palin aka Misfit

Lorrie (14:30:11) :

EVERYONE!! WE CAN’T GET COMPLACENT!

The polls are looking good but we need to IGNORE them and assume that this race is dead even! (Even in states that aren’t ‘battlegrounds’) ……..
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We all need to do our part in bringing about the changes our country is in desperate need of.

I will be back at the polls tomorrow afternoon, making sure the misinformed understand how to vote correctly (mis-info sent around telling people how to DE select after they have voted straight party)

I posted this on another thread, but it bears repeating here.
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Rope Hoover Recoil Zoo Palin aka Misfit (07:52:06) :

I agree; granted the numbers are looking good, we should not be counting chickens yet. We can’t let down our guard until ALL the votes have been counted (several times).

We already know how under handed and low the repugs will go to win an election.

23 10 2008
YummyMudslides

I’m in a totally crappy mood because I’ve been taking care of an ill family member and their cable is screwed up so the only news channel that comes in is Fox News. I’m about ready to take a bat to the TV.

Then I come home and catch up and find this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6099610

McCrappy’s brother called 911 to complain about traffic. I’ve been a 911 operator for more years than I wish to admit to and this bugs the hell out of me. I’ve gotten calls asking for the number for Walgreens and when I remind them that 911 is only to be used if yours or someone else’s life is in immediate danger they actually said it is, I need to get a prescription filled.

I think I need some wine to go with my whine😀

23 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

There’s a link in forum (Action Alerts) about where to report smear robo calls.

23 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

As I type this, I am listening to a friend of mine, on the phone, who says she is going to move out of the country if Obama wins and she has no problem with SWWNBN’s wardrobe expenditures.

She said her neighbor has an Obama sign out and that she hopes he’s ready to lose his house (probably about $1,000,000) and his job.

But she can’t tell me what Obama is going to do to make all her dire predictions come true. She changes the subject.

23 10 2008
SMR

@Regi — Amen! Having just returned from overseas, taxation rate of 37%, and $8/gal for fuel, I think most Americans are just so clueless about taxes!!! If I pay $1000 more per year and that means that several children are given health care that they’d not otherwise have been able to have, GREAT. I can’t take it with me, and my real needs are not greater than anyone else’s (less than the needs of many with health & other challenges), so who cares if my taxes go up? Not me. I do care when my taxes go up and business/corporate taxes go down, THAT pi$$es me off. How many of those people have actually done the math to see how much it would affect them, anyway? What, they’d pay another $1000 or $2000 per year? They hear “higher taxes for people making over $250k” and flip out. Good old Americans — where’s your “country first” everyone NETTING over $250k????

By the way, I know that there are a few here who have said they’ll be adversely affected by this as they fall into that tax bracket, and they’ve said it’s all good for them because their workers will be happier, so more productive, so it all balances out for them — I am not talking to those people! Everyone here is ace!

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Gosh.. McGrumpy and Failin are on NBC now, part 2..

They are just so abhorrant.. McGrumpy won’t discuss G Gordon Liddy, but he’ll talk about Ayers from 40 years ago.

His teeth are more yellow and moldy than usual.

And Failin, you can see her brain spinning as she comes up with a plausible lie.

I need a shower!

And hi Diva! Glad you and Travis had a good time at the rally..! Other than hiking 5 miles and waiting an hour before they let us leave, it was a very nice rally!

23 10 2008
Bea

<i.YummyMudslides (15:09:03) :

I’m in a totally crappy mood because I’ve been taking care of an ill family member and their cable is screwed up so the only news channel that comes in is Fox News. I’m about ready to take a bat to the TV.
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You can watch MSNBC (ie Keith & Rachel!) online Live at http://channelsurfing.net/ (scroll down for MSNBC link.)

Also CNN and several other stations. I just found out about this site (being TV-less myself.) Now, no more waiting until the next day to see what KO and Rachel said! 🙂

23 10 2008
SMR

Susie — how do you deal with such a disparity in viewpoints in a friend? Do you wonder how you can remain friends with that person? Is it tempting to say “you’re off the island! I’ve got other friends!”???

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

Dragon Lady – she is driving me nuts! I have resorted to yelling at the TV!

ughhhhhh these are going to be the longest 12 days of my life

23 10 2008
Canadian Neighbour

McCain is on Meet the Press on Sunday. More crap, more lies, more stump speech. SSDD (and that’s not the Single Sided Double Density disks we used to use!!!) Same S**t, Different Day!!!

SP has now managed to avoid doing The View but you know she will be seen on the show on tape on Monday as Hasselbark is stumping with her in Florida on the weekend, at SH’s invitation (gag). Therefore it’s EH’s way of getting an interview without the “other side” asking the “hard questions” that P.O.’d Cindy the Ice Princess & McDaddy.

Obama will be in Nevada on Saturday on his return from Hawaii.

23 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

APRN Talk of Alaska has had two people call in this week to talk about NRA lies about Obama being opposed to second amendment rights.

This is Obama’s actual position on hunting and fishing and the right to bear arms.

“Hunting and fishing are not just recreational pursuits, they are part of our national heritage. America’s hunters and anglers uphold a tradition that connects generations and brings families and friends together across our great nation. Today, we celebrate this tradition and the conservation legacy of hunters and anglers. National Hunting and Fishing Day is a time to reaffirm our commitment to America’s sportsmen. As President, I will protect the right to bear arms, increase access to places to hunt and fish, take on polluters and clean up our streams and lakes, and protect our nation’s important wildlife habitat and wetlands. I will enhance programs that encourage young people to hunt and fish and respect and protect the outdoors. Our nation’s sportsmen have made sure that this and future generations can enjoy our natural resources and wildlife. As President, I will stand with them and ensure that America’s hunting and fishing heritage endures.”

As Montana’s Gov. Schweitzer puts it, “He ain’t gonna take your guns away.”

And as Obama has said again recently to the people in West Virginia: “I’m not going to take your shotguns. I’m not going to take your rifles. I’m not going to take your handguns.”

23 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

SMR, yes, it is difficult. But this friend is really, really eccentric and her political views are the easiest of her quirks to deal with. If you get her riled enough, she’ll slam the phone down and then perhaps call you back screaming at you.

I’ve known her for 50 years and while I would not choose to be her friend if I were just now getting to know her, there is a history that is hard to deny.

Unfortunately, I think that one of her issues is race; however, she knows enough to not go near that one with me.

23 10 2008
Lacy Lady

I see where juror #9 is secy for the National Guard. Could this be a reason she is causing trouble ?? Sounds fishy to me!! Maybe she would like to see a hung jury. Too bad they can’t tie in some of the stuff he pulled which could involve the Gov.

23 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

@ Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter (15:12:15) :
His teeth are more yellow and moldy than usual.
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Cindy, you are worth in excess of %100,000,000. Have John’s teeth bleached!

23 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

About hemlines, there is a venerable theory that hemlines follow the economy. When the stock market is flying high, so are hemlines. When the market dives, women start tripping over their skirts.
The irony now is that with both the economy and McLame/Failin’s poll numbers at low levels, a mini skirt just looks wrong.
Could she be hoping to hoist up their polls and the economy with her hemline?

23 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

Marty and Diva, I’m so sorry we didn’t have a chance to meet up! Yes, the hike just to get to the enclosure was exercise enough for a week for me, my legs and knees are still complaining! But the wait was worth it. And I woulda called you, Marty, but I made a mistake and synced my IPhone with computer after I entered your phone .. and thereby lost the new entry.

I’m just glad I wasn’t in a hurry to leave (thank goodness for the porta-potties they had set up). Hehe..

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

judy i think his teeth are beyond whitening.. think he needs veneers.. but im sure they can afford it.. take a chunk outta barbie’s clothing budget..

who needs more commercials attacking obama..! use it for less creepy teeth..

23 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

BTW, my brother and I are more than willing to host an election night or an inauguration night party, in beautiful downtown Charles Town! Shall we?

23 10 2008
YummyMudslides

Bea, thanks for the tip on channelsurfing.net. Along with the cable problems is an internet connection problem so while I am there it’s (for him) Fox news or nothing.

I’ve had a glass of wine for my whine and have calmed down and have read some good news. Over 35,000 people attended the rally today in my home state of Indiana. I live on the border of IL in Northwest IN and we are the predominately blue part of IN but it is great to see such a large turn out in the southern red part of the state. Oh Indiana make my wine induced dreams come true and turn this state BLUE.

23 10 2008
suchanut

divatalk Hussein (14:44:25) :

Here’s some photos from the Anchorage Daily News Moose Photo Contest:
http://www.adn.com/moosecontest/

And here’s another Moose site:
http://www.moose-pictures.com/alaskan_moose_photos.html

23 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin

It gives me hope that McCain is being taken to task for not helping the “downline” repubs… he trashed Bush and the other repub candidates suffer. And Sarah? Ew. She needs to go far far away, peeps are alluding to her doing her own pres run in 2012 trashing McCain as the time gets closer… so Alaska mudpuppies, it is up to you to finish her politics “gig” We will start it with electing Obama, but you all need to keep the pressure on and have her be a scary memory, OK? Also, thanks.

23 10 2008
Regi

@ SMR

I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to pay too much tax, but I do blame them for wanting to pay too little ! HOL E COW this nation is a bunch of gimmee gimmee whiners @@@@ And they HAPPILY admit it, showing up in droves for rallies screaming paying taxes isn’t patriotic @@ Assholes. OK. Thank you. I posted this extremely insightful woman’s post on another thread, it’s worth it here too.
http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-psmomspol&msg=4598.41

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Ennea… we ended up at the bottom of the fence line, in the second turn.. after waiting forever, walking up, getting into the ‘main’ area took an hour.. then doing the worlds longest Kings Dominion ride line as we waited for the SS to check to make sure weren’t carrying weapons or bombs..

But i agree, it was totally worth it..!

Then leaving,,, geeze.. an hour sitting in the parking lot with NO ONE moving.. i suspect it was SS getting Obama out safely.. The parking lots aren’t secure..

23 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

You are right Marty,

One leather jacket less and Johnny could have veneers.

23 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

Ohio has moved from toss up to “leaning Obama”.
Montana is tightening up and has moved from “leaning McCain” to “toss-up”.

23 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

Marty, yes… we too had to wait to even leave… I think Barack was giving a pep talk to the VA volunteers. I stood for as long as I could, and then went into the park building and sat until the traffic was allowed to move. Then walked across the park to the nearest street, where I waited next to a cop car under a street light while my bro went and got the car we’d parked in the back 40 to come pick me up. After that it took another 20 minutes to break free of the gridlock and get on the road back home.

I wouldn’t have missed it for anything though!

23 10 2008
Willie

McCain was in Sarasota this evening – just a few miles away. They didn’t show any of the crowd but it was probably the “elite” All he did was talk about Obama and nothing about the issues. No surprise – just more of the same lies. Guess Palin will be in Florida with Elisabeth from the View introducing her at the rallies – two of a kind?

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Wow, kids.. lookie.. A moose on Barbie’s property.. Now that’s just scary.. Susprised the poor guy wasn’t toasted..

23 10 2008
Deb

just in from work…..I can’t keep up with all the news here anymore! and most of what is coming from the right these days is totally disgusting.
I honestly cannot stand to watch either McCain or Palin on video anymore….I either read text of speeches, or news reports. It is totally amazing to me that McCain can look at himself in the mirror anymore. (obviously given that $150,000 wardrobe, SP is probably doing a LOT of that)
Doesn’t McCain even read polls or reports about how the attacks are HURTING his campaign?? And, yet, he continues? He can call that “mavricky” if he likes…..I’ll just call it STUPID!

23 10 2008
Coloradonative living in NC Hussein

YummyMudslides (15:09:03) :

I’m in a totally crappy mood because I’ve been taking care of an ill family member and their cable is screwed up so the only news channel that comes in is Fox News. I’m about ready to take a bat to the TV.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I feel your pain. My husband and I were with my father-in-law for a MD appointment and they had FauxNews on the TV in the waiting room. I was having visions of baseball bats and flame throwers.

23 10 2008
Halcrow

Someone should call the Better Business Bureau and report FOX News for false advertising: there is no news in FOX News.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Cynthia, TX (14:54:17) :

Sorry, but the RNC is pimpin Palin for male votes!
————
I’ve been thinking that, too. And I have to say, except for the exceptionally astute men on this blog, and those voting for Obama, they are falling for it right and righter. But I’ve also gotta say, the women falling for it – well, they’ve only got one brain and THEY’RE NOT USING IT!

There, I feel better.

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

Bea (15:13:46) : thank you thank you thank you!!! I don’t get MSNBC and have had to watch Keith and Rachel when I can catch them un-live.

I am a happy girl now!!!

23 10 2008
Bea

Well, well, well… speaking of “pre-conditions”:

McCain Urged Reagan Admin To Meet Terror Groups Without Pre-Conditions

In 1987, John McCain cast several votes in an attempt to force the Reagan administration to meet with RENAMO1, a guerrilla organization in Mozambique that State Department officials at the time described as a “terrorist group,” 2 without requiring that the group meet any preconditions.

more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/mccain-urged-reagan-admin_b_135431.html

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Bea (15:13:46)

Me, too. Thanks so much! This is the 1st time I’ve been able to watch Countdown live and then Rachel! Life is sweet. Thank you.

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

Have a LOL somewhat off topic (this thread anyway)

Russian love song to Sarah

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR9V_aOCga0&eurl

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

group hug! *we seem to do that a lot around here*😉

23 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

@SMR (15:01:10)
you are right……people should not vote unless they educate themselfs………..I have a neighbor that is voting her party and says she has heard that palin is very smart………I told her i have sister who has the same education that palin has plus a major in history (which she got in 4 years at the same college)……….as smart as i think my sister is……..and she is really smart ………..she would be the first to say she is not ready for the white house……….i am stll so proud of you guys…..without you…. we would not have found out about palin………and living in small towns I know what that is like……..blue…blue…blue…

23 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

Could we start our own little list of small businesses for Obama?? Please chime in if you are owner of a small business and support Obama.

Nana the Publisher for Obama

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Okay, I’m not finding this and could use the help.

Hubby SWEARS he saw something on the CNN website that lists SP’s and Joe B’s IQ as 119 – 149 respectively. Now, I am NOT an intellectual snob but, if this is true…oh golly gee..

Anyone know about this, seen it or read it anywhere? A google of “Vice Presidential IQ CNN Palin” – I found a few links of stuff but not what I was looking for.

23 10 2008
Regi

@Crust Scramble

I’ve been thinking that, too. And I have to say, except for the exceptionally astute men on this blog, and those voting for Obama, they are falling for it right and righter. But I’ve also gotta say, the women falling for it – well, they’ve only got one brain and THEY’RE NOT USING IT!

There, I feel better.

Those women approve of her using sex to sell :X

23 10 2008
Bea

Crust and Ripley– KO up in 7 minutes! I’ll be thinking of you both!

23 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

It’s my educated assessment that Ms Palin is appealing to only two demographics. One is the fundamentalist undereducated folks who drive drunk on motorcycles and believe what Rush Limbaugh says. The other is males (sorry, guys, I know you all don’t fall in this category) who are *cough* turned on by tight black clothes, thigh-high skirts, 2-2/4 to 3 inch heels, and shapely calves. Since when does one’s sexual desirability factor count as a plus when one is seeking the 2nd highest office in the land?

Call me jaded, I don’t care. I don’t want a “hot babe” anywhere near the nuclear (NOT NEW_QUE_LAR) button. Maybe Ms. Palin could get a job on Charlie’s Girls.

23 10 2008
23 10 2008
Bea

Well, well, well… speaking of “pre-conditions”:

McCain Urged Reagan Admin To Meet Terror Groups Without Pre-Conditions

FTA: In 1987, John McCain cast several votes in an attempt to force the Reagan administration to meet with RENAMO1, a guerrilla organization in Mozambique that State Department officials at the time described as a “terrorist group,” 2 without requiring that the group meet any preconditions.

more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/mccain-urged-reagan-admin_b_135431.html

23 10 2008
LaNon

I love this story and am SO HAPPY so many got to the rally and made new friends.
This is something your 17-year-old will never forget. Feel the love!

Here’s to good neighbors, good friends and good mudflatters:

divatalk Hussein (14:55:50) :
I wanted to share this with you guys to show just how this blog has brought people together.

Yesterday thanks to being on this blog, MartyVA, mentioned he was going to the rally in VA. I had never been to a rally and had vowed to attend at least one to see Obama.

He graciously offered to allow me to carpool with him along with my 17 y/o son.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Barbie is so not a hot babe.. I’d rather have sex with my wife than Barbie and that SAYS A LOT!🙂

23 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

@Goalie Sanka Palin in NM (15:52:57) :

I think I saw something about this over on the Forum last week, but I can’t remember. I’ll go poke around over there and see if I can find it, unless you want to search yourself…

23 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor
23 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

NoCalGal (15:50:59) :

ROFLMAO and mopping eyes
for Russian lovesong to Mrs. Palin.
…I made a telescop for You!

23 10 2008
Trini

Palin as president has finally figured out some supreme court cases. Repeatedly click on the statue of liberty.

Love the moose pics!

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Sarah Palin’s legs aren’t that good. Chunky ankles and fat knees. Meowwwwwwwwwwwwww Guess it only works for old guys with bad eyes.

Saw the woman in Pittsburgh who claims a mugger carved a B on her face. It actually looked like a scratch and the B was backwards. I seriously doubt that a mugger cares about politics when the next fix is pressing. My take – Republicans seem to have no shame these days.

23 10 2008
Trini

I guess that’s the statue of justice, but I’m always thinking of liberty.

23 10 2008
divatalk Hussein

Thanks for the moose pixs guys. these are great.

Thanks for the MSNBC live, this is great. Now i don’t have to wait for
them to post up later in the evening.

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor,

THANKS!!

I’ll hop over and give a look-see.

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

Watching the Brian Williams interview… two thoughts.

RE: SP’s Medical records.. RIGHT at the end of that segment.. Palin says “if they are released.” In light of the recent note from the RNC that the records WILL NOT be released, I would say her answer was NOT a yes.. and she never intended to release them.,..

RE: McCain attacking Obama on the Biden quote about being tested.. he snarks that it is incredible that a new- novice president would be tested like the Cuban Missile crisis.. hmmm remind me.. JFK was the president during the Cuban Missile Crisis.. he was young and “untested” and he backed Kruschev down. McCain was on a naval ship- ok. fair enough; but a young, smart, “untested” president with the right temperment handled the Cuban Missile crisis.. I would say that sounds like Obama…

they are sooo laughable.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

> Hick Town in W PA (16:05:49) :

Saw the woman in Pittsburgh who claims a mugger carved a B on her face. It actually looked like a scratch and the B was backwards. I seriously doubt that a mugger cares about politics when the next fix is pressing. My take – Republicans seem to have no shame these days.<
——————–
Damn, I’ve gotten jaded. My first thought when I saw this was that some repugnant
paid him 50 bucks to do this. Told you I’d gotten jaded.

23 10 2008
Bea

Well, well, well… speaking of “pre-conditions”:

McCain Urged Reagan Admin To Meet Terror Groups Without Pre-Conditions

In 1987, John McCain cast several votes in an attempt to force the Reagan administration to meet with RENAMO1, a guerrilla organization in Mozambique that State Department officials at the time described as a “terrorist group,” 2 without requiring that the group meet any preconditions.

more at: (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/mccain-urged-reagan-admin_b_135431.html)

23 10 2008
Bea

Crust Scramble & Hick Town:

I can’t believe ANYONE is buying this woman’s “OH NOES! I was attacked by a thieving, dyslexic Obama supporter!” What a crock.

23 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin

23/6 on HuffPo did a ditty on the backwards “B” carver and the ATM robbery “victim” Good grief. Do you suppose the repugs pay these people? Drudge is spinning this story like the spider he is.

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

Nana – my husband and I own a small lighting agency just outside of Richmond, VA (very small, just us two as employees and one commissioned salesman). Gross receipts well under $250K, after expenses and payroll, considerably less than $100K!

LightSource Virginia supports Obama!

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin (16:16:50) :

23/6 on HuffPo did a ditty on the backwards “B” carver and the ATM robbery “victim” Good grief. Do you suppose the repugs pay these people?
————–
I wish I didn’t think that. But, to me, these people have already pimped their souls for the ‘win’. And the list just keeps getting longer.

23 10 2008
BarbinDC

———–
Don’t they have alternate jurors? If she keeps making problems (violence, etc.) the Judge can kick her off and one of the alternates could take over – yes? Any attorneys around?

Yes, there are alternate jurors and usually you don’t know who is an alternate until they are excused. This jury is not sequestered, just given the same instructions as any jury in DC; i.e., don’t read anything about the case or watch the news on TV and don’t discuss the case with anybody. Once alternates are excused, these prohibitions go by the boards, so I don’t know what provisions can be made at this point for kicking off a juror already in deliberations. That’s why I think there will be a hung jury or, more likely, a mistrial declared.

BTW: I just love the way the internets bring such disparate people together. Mudflats in linked on http://www.Americablog.com, which is run by my neighbor, John Aravosis. Also, I just love http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com, which is run by Susan Bankston and is in Tom DeLay country. She is a true-blue a Democrat as anyone in America and has even persuaded me to support the Fort Bend Democrats. Ain’t life grand?

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

tee hee… with my laptop in my warm bed, watching MSNBC! Life is swell! thanks again Bea !!

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (14:02:15) :

Oh this is funny! Paul Hipp on Bachmann & Tinklenburg

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MAN That was VERY cool.. sent it off to all my peeps! It was just GREAT!
**

REGI @ 14:59:04

” You know what? If you don’t want to pay taxes in the US, leave the freaking country !”
++++++++++++++++++++

You know Regi… that is a great spin on REAL Americans… I LIKE IT!!

Is is American to AVOID taxes??? I don’t think so.. it’s kinda elitist if you ask me…

23 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

This just came through from down south. Gotta go grab a tissue.

“I Didn’t Vote For Obama” by kentuckyscott
Monday, October 20, 2008

I’m a middle-class white guy living in Jacksonville , Florida . I’ve got a wife and two kids. Because the kids had no school today, I took a vacation day from work, and took the kids downtown to vote early. Fifty-nine minutes later, two smiling children and I proudly sported “I Voted” stickers.
But I didn’t vote for Obama.

I voted for my ancestors, who believed in the promise of this country and came with with nothing as immigrants. I voted for my parents, who taught in the public schools for decades. I voted for Steve, an acquaintance of mine from Kentucky . (Killed by an IED two years ago in Iraq ). I voted for Shawn, another who’s been to Iraq twice, and Afghanistan once, and who’ll be going back to Afghanistan again soon — and whose family earned eleven bucks a month too much to qualify for food stamps when the war started. I voted for April, the only African-American girl in my high school — it was years before it occurred to me how
different her experience of our school must have been. I voted for my college friends who are Christian, Jewish, Mormon, and yes — Muslim. I voted for my grandfathers, who worked hard in factories and died too young. I voted for the plumber who worked on my house, because I
want him to get a REAL tax break. I voted for four little angels from Birmingham . I voted for a bunch of dead white men who, although personally flawed, were willing to pledge their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor, and used a time of great crisis to expand freedom rather than suspend it. I voted for all those people and more, and I voted for all of you, too.

But mostly, I voted selfishly: I voted for two little kids, one who has ballet in an hour, and one who has baseball practice at the same time. I voted for a world where they can be confident that their government will represent the best that is in this country, and that will in turn demand the best of them.
I voted for a government that will be respected in the world. I voted for an economy that will reward work above guile. I voted for everything I believe in. Sure, I filled in the circle next to the name Obama, but it wasn’t him I was voting for — it was every single one of us, and those I love most of all.”

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

ALSO (before I scamper home to the slower connection) If I were one of those (Horrors!!!) Elitists of DC or NYC or LA or SF or Dallas or whereever the Republican candidates have been fund raising.. I would ask for my money back! I mean.. ask me for money and then insult me??? lol

I so love Jon Daily’s attacks on those who insult NYC- the embodiment of the American Dream.. the BIG APPLE…

ah me. I so enjoy all your company and comments. This place is home…

23 10 2008
Spoon Archer Hussein Palin

A backwards B would be what you get if you do it in the mirror and aren’t too bright.

23 10 2008
shilo442

@ A Nana from Alaska,
That is the most beautiful, inspiring article I have ever read, it sure makes me proud to be part of this country and part of this electiKentuckyScott just made me so proud, made me cry too,

Love you KentuckyScott.

23 10 2008
LaNon

Spoon Archer Hussein Palin (16:31:36) :
A backwards B would be what you get if you do it in the mirror and aren’t too bright.
————
that’s just one thing about the story that doesn’t hang right for me

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

here’s a photo of the cut mugging victim..

Come on folks.. are we morons??? a terrified woman being mugged and cut with a knife sits still enough for this monster to carve a perfect, although backwards B in her face?

Lets get real… If I was being mugged, i’d be kicking and screaming and no one’s going to get me still enough to do that unless im dead or unconscious..

Just crackpots out there.. Willing to do anything for McGrumpy!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2113494/posts

23 10 2008
LaNon

BarbinDC (16:26:34) :

———–
Don’t they have alternate jurors? If she keeps making problems (violence, etc.) the Judge can kick her off and one of the alternates could take over – yes? Any attorneys around?

Yes, there are alternate jurors and usually you don’t know who is an alternate until they are excused.

———-
hi–just to pose another view, i’m a trial watcher and the alternates have always been known from the start in trials i’ve followed. maybe it depends on the judge but ive not followed or attended a trial or jury selection where the alternates are not identified.

at any rate, i think that the juror who failed to properly deliberate should have been dismissed and replaced

23 10 2008
Blue in MT

O/T
On the Real Clear Politics Map, Montana is showing as TOSS UP! Since 1952, we’ve only voted Democrats in TWICE. ’64 & ’92

CHANGE MONTANA CAN BELIEVE IN!

GO OBAMA/BIDEN!!

23 10 2008
LaNon

i hate saying this, but something doesn’t look right about that victim. no swelling difference between the eyes. she looks different from other photos of beating victims i’ve seen.

hope i’m wrong, i consider myself a victim’s advocate, but she doesn’t look puffy, her eyes match too well. the color looks like makeup.

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

A Nana from Alaska (16:29:13) : excellent find…thank you

23 10 2008
prettybrown

KO just said that Joe the plumber was in it for the money. Why does that not surprise me. Added to the list of things I never want to hear about again after this election. Joe the (so called) Plumber.

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Spoon Archer Hussein Palin (16:31:36) :

A backwards B would be what you get if you do it in the mirror and aren’t too bright.
********
My thoughts exactly … especially since she didn’t go to the hospital and the surveillance camera didn’t catch it. Someone should introduce her to Joe the Plummer so they can party with Todd and Sarah. Frauds all.

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

The grifters.

23 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

lanon, I agree…..looks like a bad make up job. No reddened capillaries in her sclera, either. If she got whacked in the nose, like 2 black eyes indicate, then there would be obvious swelling and discoloration in her eyeballs… been there done that. She refused medical treatment? Because she’s lying.

23 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

It’s interesting to see that ornery (maverivky?) juror sounds awfully familiar all one needs to do is change the reference from She to The McCain Campaign and jurors to the public.

“She (insert The McCain Campaign) is being rude, disrespectful and unreasonable,” the foreman wrote. “She (The McCain Campaign) has had violent outbursts with other jurors (the public) and that’s not helping anyone. The jurors (the public) are getting off-course. She’s (The McCain Campaign) not following the laws and rules that are being stipulated to in the main instructions.” Gee I wonder who the juror sides with?

23 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

oh my gosh Nana from Alaska…

That had to be the most moving testimony I’ve read, seen or heard in the last few weeks.

Thank you for sharing that.

And thanks for the warning about the tissues, else I’d be splashing all over my keyboard.

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

A Nana,
That was just perfect, I am sniffling.

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@SMR (14:46:40) :

Do we believe the B incident in Pittsburgh? Have I become too cynical, or are there others who are sceptical?

***********************

The assault checks out but we have only the cop’s word.

23 10 2008
BarbinDC

A Nana from Alaska, this is for you:

http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/debate.htm

Read it and weep.

23 10 2008
Bella the Bunny Girl

I’ve had enraged kittens do more damage and the lack of swelling, redness, other signs doesn’t quite match up to the story.

Add that she refused medical treatment, it happened beyond camera range, her blog twitter posts and a local on Politico talking about the area being a busy restaurant-boutique strip that time of night, all sets off my hoax radar.

23 10 2008
LaNon

well, there should be atm cammy evidence to inspect.

23 10 2008
LaNon

Bella nails it!
Bella the Bunny Girl (17:05:29) :

I’ve had enraged kittens do more damage and the lack of swelling, redness, other signs doesn’t quite match up to the story.


didn’t know the attack was out of cam range. but did wonder how the perp knew which car was hers….

ok, well, i think a few of us think this story stinks
shame on matt drudge

23 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

From Speak the Truth:
Palin’s IQ=83; SAT scores=841

“Don’t know if this is true—documents look real, but of course, anything could be faked. Hoping someone can get confirmation from the McCain campaign.”

PDF Report here:
http://clapboard.org/temp/SarahPalinReport.pdf

23 10 2008
Dr. Patois

Off topic but thought you would enjoy the view from Lebanon…

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_ID=10&article_ID=96464&categ_id=5%20

The fact that someone like Palin, who lacks any national or international experience, perhaps even basic knowledge, can be a potential vice president is a sign of American democracy at its worst. In one swift, serendipitous moment, she was transformed from a moose hunter in Alaska to a global mullah hunter in a contest and a world about which she knows zero, as she reconfirms every time she opens her mouth.

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Halcrow – I advocate for a mass mailing complaint to the FEC about how much free political advertising Fox News does for the Republican party. It’s a shame that a corporate foreign-owned psuedo-media outlet is allowed to provide such a massive in-kind political contribution to one specific political party. And here I thought corporate contributions were verboten. It clearly shows that faux news is anything but fair and balanced.

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Compare the alleged attack on the woman in Pittsburgh to the attack on the Obama campaign worker in Harrisburg. Or the racial slurs hurled at those black high school kids in Harrisburg immediately after the McCain campaign appearance in Harrisburg the other day by a white McCain supporter.

And all those other white McCain supporters? Yep. They never stepped forward and told that stupid racist woman to shut the hell up. All those white people just kept on walking while the fellow white McCain supporter yelled all that stuff about race and welfare and laziness to those students at the science magnet school students.

Absolutely disgraceful.

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Laura Lee – Palin is a whore. A political whore. She lifts up her skirts in hopes of attracting the attention of lecherous dead-brainers who are interested only in seeing what she’s got under the hood.

Meanwhile, people are losing their jobs, families are losing their homes and a nation loses hope.

Time to short skirt Palin back to Wasilla and her cost-free house on the dead lake.

23 10 2008
Bea

Dr. Patois (17:15:10) :

Off topic but thought you would enjoy the view from Lebanon…

___

Thanks for the link. Always interesting, and humbling, to see how much other nations pay attention to what goes on here in the US. Of course, the average citizen of the world is better informed about all world events than the average American– by a mile (or a metre).

23 10 2008
SMR

It’s probably the same lady who found the finger in her chili at Wendy’s.

23 10 2008
IndieWatch

I just watched Winky and Blinky, Part Duh, with Brian Williams on NBC.

AAARRRGGGHH!!! (Sorry for yelling–I just had to. Why do these reporters just let them spew with essentially no follow-up questions?)

Palin regurgitated her word salad again….and they are both such bold-faced liars!

I’m sure Ayers could make a legal case for defamation if he so chose. In fact, I think Obama could as well. McCain and Palin repeat the same lies and innuendos even though many fact-checking organizations have pointed out the truth. I’m no apologist for Ayers but he should be a complete NON-ISSUE in this election.

McCain and Palin repeatedly claim that Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist who said on 9/11 that I wish I could have bombed more.
Wrong–Ayers said he wished we could have done more, collective we, as in we as a nation, could have done more to stop the Vietnam War. He never said he wanted to bomb more.

And Ayers is not unrepentant. He apologized to a Chicago lawyer who was injured, expressing remorse, and in a 2001 letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribune, he wrote, “I condemn all forms of terrorism — individual, group and official”. He also condemned the September 11 terrorist attacks in that letter. “Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response.”

And contrary to McCain/Palin’s accusations that Obama pals around with terrorists (Plural? Who else then?) and is hiding his true relationship to Ayers, Obama has addressed this non-issue more than adequately, as far back as that April debate against Clinton, horridly moderated by Stephanopoulos and Gibson. So for McCain/Palin to say Obama has dodged this question is false and ludicrous.

Here’s part of the transcript from that debate:

MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator, if you get the nomination, you’ll have to — (applause) — (inaudible).

I want to give Senator Clinton a chance to respond, but first a follow-up on this issue, the general theme of patriotism in your relationships. A gentleman named William Ayers, he was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that. And in fact, on 9/11 he was quoted in The New York Times saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

An early organizing meeting for your state senate campaign was held at his house, and your campaign has said you are friendly. Can you explain that relationship for the voters, and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?

SEN. OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about.

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.

The fact is, is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those either.

So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow — somehow their ideas could be attributed to me — I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

Here’s the full transcript of that debate, but just check out pages 11-12 for the Ayers matter.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16text-debate.html?pagewanted=11&ei=5124&en=74b4877a21bf42d4&ex=1366171200&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Now, Obama is too principled and focused on the relevant issues to bring these matters up himself, but why don’t the press ask McCain about G. Gordon Liddy or this RENAMO terrorist group whom McCain encouraged Reagan to meet with, without preconditions? Hmmm??

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/mccain-urged-reagan-admin_b_135431.html

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party (17:18:27) :

Halcrow – I advocate for a mass mailing complaint to the FEC about how much free political advertising Fox News does for the Republican party. It’s a shame that a corporate foreign-owned psuedo-media outlet is allowed to provide such a massive in-kind political contribution to one specific political party. And here I thought corporate contributions were verboten. It clearly shows that faux news is anything but fair and balanced.
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Yea, good luck taking Murdoch down. Something I’d love to see – maybe Obama, et. al can cut him off at the knees when the Demowonders take over.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b122948.html

23 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Obama made a campaign video in Spanish and he is speaking spanish. Here is the link.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

23 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

West Virginian (14:37:35) :

Totally cool.

23 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

I speak Spanish and can tell you he’s damn good!

23 10 2008
kidsquid

NoCalGal (16:11:11) :

Kennedy was tested before he was president. He fought in WWII.
McCain was never tested with a decision, he was on the deck of that aircraft carrier, because he was told to be there, not by his own choice.

23 10 2008
GiGi

As for Stevens,
sounds Like a hung jury to me.

I find the latest antics of the McCain Palin team so disturbing, and so Un-American in what they are doing,trying to incite people..
This reminds me of the old west, or the south in the 60’s.

23 10 2008
bPoint

From Mike Murphy (“former” McCain strategist):
Q: What’s the difference between a Pit Bull and a Hockey Mom?
A: You can feed a pit-bull for 483 years with 150 grand.

23 10 2008
Aria

huh. I was letting Fox News run on TV while I was websurfing, and a Palin interview came on during Hannity & Colmes. I just looked up and realized she was wearing a big ol’ polar bear pin. Weird, considering she’s fighting to keep them from being protected as an endangered species.

23 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Aw, crap. Juror #4 just left on a family emergency.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/23/stevens.trial/index.html

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@PaulaOKC (14:27:57) :

While you’ve got your checkbook out, Scott Rice is trying to defeat Sen. Jim Inhofe. Inhofe has been in the Senate for 22 years and needs to be put out to pasture. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. In Oklahoma any contribution can make a big difference. Buying a spot on an Andy Griffith rerun only costs $15. Time on The View sells for $130 per 30 seconds. He can even advertise on the Today Show for only $250.

He will be buying his last media buy tomorrow morning so every extra contribution in the next 15 hours means that we can reach that many more voters.

You can go to andrewforoklahoma.com or you can donate on actblue.com

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I’ve noticed that support for McCain in OK has slipped some 10% in the past week. I would pay money to get rid of Inhofe! Even the mention of his name makes me angry. grrr

23 10 2008
kas (from Oregon)

Crooks and Liars – Palin says she supported a “path to citizenship” for undocumented workers… according to an interview with Univision – ticking off that “base” she’s supposed be courting

http://crooksandliars.com/

23 10 2008
kas (from Oregon)

OK wandering around crooks and liars may be worth the time… take a look at these ads taken in New York

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/manhattan-storage-companies-takes-out

23 10 2008
Zim in Oz

Why would a mugger carve a back to front ‘B’ ?
A dislexic mugger…don’t think so….

What made her think the ‘B’ meant Barrack…?
(Mugger not only dislexic but in a hurry…left out the ‘O’ ?) ..don’t think so…

Maybe the B stands for something else….B….itch ?

Dummy… she did it herself…I have worked with girls like this, it is quite sad really.
(self mutilating)

BTW SP is just a clothed pole dancer

23 10 2008
samihawaii hussein that one stevens

aloha all! check out this recent interview of Maya, Barack’s sister:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/23/obama_sister/index.html

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Aria – it is believed that the polar bear pin is the AIP symbol and that she’s given a wink, wink shoutout to her secessionist pals with the AIP.

23 10 2008
suchanut

SMR (17:28:08) :

It’s probably the same lady who found the finger in her chili at Wendy’s.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

ROTFLMAO!!! SMR, you are killing me over here….

23 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

I don’t understand why this woman would have been attacked and carved with a “B” on her face. The symbol most known for Obama would have been an “O”. This doesn’t make sense.

23 10 2008
23 10 2008
West Virginian

I agree, the face thing doesn’t make sense. I would have guessed it would have been an O.

I agree about the short skirts on Palin. I guess they think they can get the male votes that way. Pathetic! Their campaign is unbelievable.

23 10 2008
RLS

Opss. That was the link for the debunking of the Palin School and IQ reports

23 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

The photo of Ashley Todd is — excuse me — ridiculous. Aside from the incredible overhype on Drudge, etc, about the mugger “carving” a B into her face, when the skin isn’t even broken, the precision of the scratching (except for the mirror image) is a bit too much. This had to be the gentlest mugger on earth.

Also, I’ve had black eyes, and that looks a lot more like mascara to me. Since she declined medical treatment, I guess we won’t have a third party evaluation of that, unless the cops touched it.

Maybe somebody can get a photo of her in the next few days — if that’s real, she should have a major shiner for a week.

When I first read about this story, I was apalled. I’ve been mugged. My kid has been mugged. I detest muggers. But after reading a bit more, I found myself wondering: where was this? How did the mugger know it was her car? Well, maybe he saw her pull up. Then, I saw the pic of the “carved” B, and my credulousness sloughed away. This is a the violent work of an enraged mugger with a knife, who managed to make a perfect backwards letter without once drawing blood.

Good grief. I don’t know if I can make it to my birthday (Nov 4).

23 10 2008
Laura Lee (LA) aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin

Halcrow (15:44:29) :

Someone should call the Better Business Bureau and report FOX News for false advertising: there is no news in FOX News.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hee Hee Hee…they DO have FOXY morons though!!!

23 10 2008
suchanut

@ strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.) (18:04:56) :

You can make it🙂

23 10 2008
Mollys Mum

I just watched the David Williams interview, part II, and it was disgusting. Not only was she incoherent as usual on terrorism, feminism and whatever else they talked about, but he is fixated, totally FIXATED on Ayers, and he spends the whole time drooling over her naked thighs. Watch it. Watch his eyes. It’s pathetic. Bring me the bleach!! I think I may drink the whole gallon straight.

23 10 2008
kas (from Oregon)

YOu have to watch this video — if you are of a certain age…

OPIE votes for Obama!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/ron-howards-call-for-obam_n_137214.html

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Speck Backfire, I, too, have been mugged. And once was cut on the hand when he got ticked that I swung a car antenna (had just ripped it off the car next to me) at him. I almost had to have stitched up the whole side of my hand.

Never met a mugger with a dull knife. Dirty, yes, but not dull.

23 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Molly… she aint totally stupid. She knew where he would look and she worked that distraction for all it was worth.

23 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

@ RLS (18:03:49) :

Many thanks for the link debunking Palin’s SAT scores etc.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/reportcard.asp

23 10 2008
Deb

mccain was “tested” and crashed….how many planes?

23 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

I haven’t seen the interview, yet. Maybe he was looking down to keep from showing a visible look of disbelief and it just looks like he is checking out her legs. I do not know if I could bear to watch it myself. I like Brian Williams, so it would be crushing to think that he was checking her out.

23 10 2008
Laura Lee (LA) aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (17:54:35) :

I’ve noticed that support for McCain in OK has slipped some 10% in the past week. I would pay money to get rid of Inhofe! Even the mention of his name makes me angry. grrr

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Being from Oklahoma originally (I don’t remember much about Inhoffe) I was very much surprised by my Okie mom asking me today who I was voting for…I said Obama…and she said, “ME TOO!” I was floored…just goes to show that sometimes you REALLY don’t know people!!!

23 10 2008
empish

Ron Howard, Andy Griffith and Henry Winkler reprise old roles in support of Obama. The nostalgia factor of this commercial is priceless.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Ok Mugpups..

If you click on the magnify option (lower rt hand corner in IE, you can look at the ‘mug shot’ of Mugged Girl’ and see it far better.

There is not a single blood vessel in her eyes damaged, and like other Sherlocks, the eye looks like makeup or charcoal, and the B is so surface based, it might simply be lip liner or a makeup pencil..

Other than the fact she’s an ugly bitch, my guess is to agree with everyone that this was staged and totally fake. Of course, if she filed a fake police report, or even if the cops responded, and they find out it was fraud, she could be charged..!

Clearly, there is more to this story than she’s letting on!

Here’s a great shot.. remember, blow it up with the magnifer..!

23 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

@sauerkraut: yeah, funny how they don’t seem too concerned about breaking the skin. Your hand okay?

@suchanut: Thanks. Of course I know I can make it — I’ve made it since Nixon as an adult. It does help to have a decent place like this blog.

Being a dope, I left a few comments on the last thread before realizing that everyone had jumped (late start today). Perspective is an interesting thing: none of them are worth repeating. Except a reiteration of a remark from bobg (who cannot be THAT much older than me): Could African-Americans in the mid-20th century ever have imagined that they would one day be attacked for being the elite?

23 10 2008
ira2

strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.) (18:04:56) :

The photo of Ashley Todd is — excuse me — ridiculous. Aside from the incredible overhype on Drudge, etc, about the mugger “carving” a B into her face, when the skin isn’t even broken, the precision of the scratching (except for the mirror image) is a bit too much. This had to be the gentlest mugger on earth.

That was my first thought – carved? where? I see nothing carved in her face? That backwards B has all the severity of a scrape with something like a ballpoint pen that ran out of ink or maybe a nail file… I’m a klutz and have had run-ins with small kitchen knives, the letter opener, old saw blades, nails, screws, nail clippers – heck, any of my paper cuts were more injurious than that neat scrape!

Let someone try to duplicate this, scrape a backwards and very neat B onto the cheek of a struggling person on the ground, with a robbery-sized and pointy knife (surely the bad guy didn’t threaten her with a butter knife into giving up her cash?) and see if it’s even remotely possible.
And maybe run a little poll about how many young women who get robbed and “carved up” would turn down medical care for their injuries?

Forget the infusion of politics (or race, of course… also) into this thing. If you just look at what she reported to have happened and what she offers as “proof”, it really doesn’t quite wash, does it?

23 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

NoCalGal (16:11:11) :

Of course he was tested on the deck of another aircraft carrier, when his plane was destroyed in a fire on the Forrestal:
“McCain retreated to the safety of the “ready room,” where off-duty pilots spent their noncombat hours talking trash and playing poker. There, McCain watched the conflagration unfold on the room’s closed-circuit television — bearing distant witness to the valiant self-sacrifice of others who died trying to save the ship, ”
[http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/
make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/4]

23 10 2008
lakmi
23 10 2008
Shove Maggot "That One" Husseain

http://clapboard.org/temp/SarahPalinReport.pdf

I would ignore anything like this. It looks so FAKE!

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@responsiblecitizen08 (18:21:51) :

I haven’t seen the interview, yet. Maybe he was looking down to keep from showing a visible look of disbelief and it just looks like he is checking out her legs. I do not know if I could bear to watch it myself. I like Brian Williams, so it would be crushing to think that he was checking her out.

********************

I bet he was looking to see if she was wearing knickers. bleuuch!

23 10 2008
Deb

gotta love fivethirtyeight headline by nate tonight:

Today’s polls; 10/23: McCain on Life Support

(not literally, just in the polls)

23 10 2008
Deb

ahhh just saw on cnn…evidently juror #9 left?

23 10 2008
Deb

my mistake…it was juror #4 on emergency leave

23 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (18:35:33) :
I bet he was looking to see if she was wearing knickers. bleuuch!
_________________________________________________________________
My sentiments exactly. It did make me think about whether she was trying to pull a Sharon Stone moment from “Basic Instinct.”

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

@ kidsquid (17:41:37) :

DOH!! of course you are correct! I was thinking all president mode and forgot the other. Thanks for the refresher history lesson.

23 10 2008
suchanut

strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.) (18:25:28) :

Mid 20th would be the 50’s-60’s.

My mother was ill during the late 50’s and we had a cleaning lady named Norma. She was the first black person I ever met – I was 7 or 8 . I adored her and she me. Eventually she started bringing her son with her and he and I would run the countryside for hours and he helped me with math. Eventually a neighbor on a nearby farm got pissed off that a white girl was hanging with a black boy. Norma decided it would be best to leave him home. That wasn’t enough – after my mother took her to the bus stop to catch her bus home one day, other residents drove by and yelled insults at her as she stood there. So, we had to part company. We did exchange cards for years afterward.

I know that if could somehow tell her that she was part of an elite group she would laugh so hard there would be tears running down that dear face!

23 10 2008
Michele

OMG!!! Is it possible that this jury has been tampered with? Weird.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/23/stevens.trial/index.html

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Laura Lee (LA) aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin (18:21:58) :

Being from Oklahoma originally (I don’t remember much about Inhoffe) I was very much surprised by my Okie mom asking me today who I was voting for…I said Obama…and she said, “ME TOO!” I was floored…just goes to show that sometimes you REALLY don’t know people!!!

*******************

Just proves we shouldn’t underestimate the older generation. Sounds like you have a smart one there.😉

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Shove Maggot “That One” Husseain (18:31:34) :

http://clapboard.org/temp/SarahPalinReport.pdf

I would ignore anything like this. It looks so FAKE!

____________________________

Wasn’t this supposed to have happened in Pittsburgh?

hmmmmm …… how strategic of the mugger.

23 10 2008
Deb

Laura- I leave Saturday to go to the Texas panhandle to visit my 89 year old mother, a life-long Republican who is voting for Obama this year. Unfortunately, my sister was just down there and warned me to bring my “blinders and earplugs” against the BLATANT racism that I will hear. A house across the street from her has a huge blue sign with SARAH handprinted on it!

23 10 2008
Regi

Watching the second interview. Williams just giving them lots more talking points, no hard questions or followups. I just want to change my fashion critique from romper to……………. hot pants ! That’s what it looks like she’s wearing HOT PANTS ! Good Lord !

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

I am a little incomfortable about the tone of some of these postings today about the alleged mugging victim. I know we are excited that Obama is ahead in the race- and we want him to succeed. But I do not think we need to become too smug about it- to denigrate the opponents and their misguded followers in a mean way.. (JUST MHO). Questioning the validity is appropriate- and if she is not legit or self inflicted, than shame on them. But what if she was mugged by some nut job? Should we not show compassion? I don’t know if that is a “B” or a brass knucke or what.

I reserve my thoughts pending more reliable information. And I decry violence from either side of the campaign trail.

Same with SP. I do not care for her policies or positions. But personal attacks? hmmm not my cup of tea…

23 10 2008
you'rekidding,right? aka Slap Spear Hussein Palin

http://www.here-now.org/shows/2008/10/20081023_9.asp

Looks like the Gov has been plotting her way to DC for a while now…and Rush thinks she’s a babe!

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Could the stuff in the Teddy Trial bear any resemblance to “Runaway Jury” with Edward Norton as the mole? Sure looks awful similar.. And someone has to leave for a ‘family emergency’ at this point? Odd..

Read this synopsis and see if you see any similarities!

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,485222,00.html

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

Marty, looked real close and figure its not even a B — it’s a sideways underlined M! 😉

23 10 2008
meatme

look what i found
http://www.palin4pres2012.com/

check this out now!

23 10 2008
Irish in FL

empish (18:22:04) :

Ron Howard, Andy Griffith and Henry Winkler reprise old roles in support of Obama. The nostalgia factor of this commercial is priceless.

______________________

wow….speaks volumes for a two generation Obama support….I love it……

23 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

ALL, reading in this thread about McCain and crashing all those planes, brought this to mind!

I know that this is a “thought leaning” site but these guys have come together for a common goal. My dad has a good friend who appears in this and I can attest to the authenticity of what he has to say, nothing else; that is up to the reader to determine. If interested in a different truth of McCain’s service visit:

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm

I learned a lot.

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

meatme (18:52:47) :

look what i found
http://www.palin4pres2012.com/

check this out now!

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OH MY EFFIN’ GOD!!!! Say it ain’t so…..

Okay all you Alaskans, this is your chance to literally save the world -kill the cheerleader!!! Not literally of course – but please, please, please expose all you know … expose her corruption … her lies everything!

PLEASE ALASKA SAVE US ALL!

23 10 2008
Lana, KY

I heard the report on the mugging & backward B ~

and when I looked in a mirror & imitated scratching a B , well, duh, it comes out backwards ~
just a rear view mirror thought. . .

23 10 2008
Rose in PA

Okay another Joe reference…
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081023_ap_palinguaranteeswinatwesternparally.html

BEAVER, Pa. – Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin set aside Joe the Plumber for Joe the Quarterback , as in Joe Namath , and told supporters at a rally near where Namath grew up that she and John McCain are still in the game and they’re going to win.

“In the biggest game of his life, all the experts had Joe Namath and the Jets written off to defeat. They were up against the elite team that had all the money and they were held in awe by the media.

23 10 2008
Anonymous

Once again, I’m getting behind!

My coworkers seem to take great pleasure in driving me crazy with Obama attacks.

It was easy to respond to the one about Barack Obama having only 143 days of experience, but I also was shown a letter by Rich Pearson on the Illinois State Rifle Association.

They really are driving me crazy! In the first place, I have to work! and in the second place, if I do take a break from working, I just want to hang out at Mudflats, not open my email and read more Obama bashing!

I think I need some wine to go with my whine too!

23 10 2008
Rose in PA

Palin mentions yet another Joe:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081023_ap_palinguaranteeswinatwesternparally.html

BEAVER, Pa. Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin set aside Joe the Plumber for Joe the Quarterback , as in Joe Namath , and told supporters at a rally near where Namath grew up that she and John McCain are still in the game and they’re going to win.

“In the biggest game of his life, all the experts had Joe Namath and the Jets written off to defeat. They were up against the elite team that had all the money and they were held in awe by the media.”

23 10 2008
Regi

Am I among the few Dems that think it would be AWESOME to see Palin run in a primary in 2012?! I’d love to see the other Republicans and faux news go after her !

23 10 2008
Rose in PA

Palin mentions yet another Joe:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081023_ap_palinguaranteeswinatwesternparally.html

Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin set aside Joe the Plumber for Joe the Quarterback, as in Joe Namath, and told supporters at a rally near where Namath grew up that she and John McCain are still in the game and they’re going to win.

“In the biggest game of his life, all the experts had Joe Namath and the Jets written off to defeat. They were up against the elite team that had all the money and they were held in awe by the media.”

23 10 2008
Rose in PA

Palin mentions yet another Joe.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081023_ap_palinguaranteeswinatwesternparally.html

Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin set aside Joe the Plumber for Joe the Quarterback, as in Joe Namath, and told supporters at a rally near where Namath grew up that she and John McCain are still in the game and they’re going to win.

Palin said: In the biggest game of his life, all the experts had Joe Namath and the Jets written off to defeat. They were up against the elite team that had all the money and they were held in awe by the media.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Palin would never make it on her own.

She may well be in prison by 2012.

23 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Anonymous (19:01:59) :
Are they using your work e-mail address to send this stuff to you? If so, I would let them know that I didn’t appreciate it and then I would file a complaint. They should not be using their working hours harassing other co-workers about their political choices. It is unprofessional.

23 10 2008
Rose in PA

Palin mentions yet another Joe.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081023_ap_palinguaranteeswinatwesternparally.html

Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin set aside Joe the Plumber for Joe the Quarterback, as in Joe Namath, and told supporters at a rally near where Namath grew up that she and John McCain are still in the game and they’re going to win.

23 10 2008
Scotsgirl

Check out http://www.MargaretandHelen.wordpress.com today, she sure makes some great points and so funny too.

23 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

Tired Mom,

I kept looking for the punchline when I went to this website! I don’t think there is one. I don’t think it’s a joke. I think I’m going to run screaming from the country.

23 10 2008
Rose in PA

And another Joe reference from the Republicans. This time Palin drags poor Joe Namath into this mess.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081023_ap_palinguaranteeswinatwesternparally.html

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

Anonymous and all the mudpuppies… with no more debates- we need to plan a night to get together with our bottles of wine or drink of choice and to live blog… and I mean before the victory celebration…

here’s a health to you! Hope your crazy co workers give you a break,

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

I was just reading a report from the AP about how much money McCain has left and about halfway down in the article was the information that his October 1-15 filing showed the campaign paid $22,800 to Palin’s travelling stylist, Amy Strozzi, “an acclaimed celebrity stylist/makeup artist”. It also mentioned that by contrast his foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann, was paid $12,500.

Priorities, priorities.

23 10 2008
LaNon

Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter (18:51:17) :
Could the stuff in the Teddy Trial bear any resemblance to “Runaway Jury” with Edward Norton as the mole? Sure looks awful similar.. And someone has to leave for a ‘family emergency’ at this point? Odd..
——————
absolutely
juries get gotten to all the time
they can be subtle
they use pi’s
i’ve seen them try

this is the perfect kind of case for the potential of jury tampering, but i have no knowledge of an impropriety at all…

that said, i’ll be really surprised if he gets convicted. as many have noted, it appears more likely to hang at this point.

23 10 2008
LaNon

all big campaigns have stylists.
and clothing coordinators,
that’s just how it is.

23 10 2008
LaNon

all big campaigns have stylists.

that’s just how it is.
they are photographed too often.
hillary had a great one.
obama has one.
they all do.

23 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

Thanks Responsible Citizen!

I thought that post had disappeared, but it was just my identity that disappeared!

Yes, as a matter of fact they are using my work email. And I’m sure you’re right that I should complain, but I just want to set the record straight instead!

The letter from Rich Pearson was actually a printout hanging on the bulletin board. The truth is that although these people really are Republicans, they honestly aren’t being vicious. Like I said, they do it because they know it annoys me!

So, I’m trying to use it as an opportunity to let them know the truth. It’s just that it honestly is very time consuming, and I’d rather just say “check your facts!!” but I know they don’t even care enough to do that.

I need a little more wine!

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

I need to get myself to stylist/makeup artist school.

23 10 2008
SMR

AKM — Can we have one of those election countdown clocks like the CNN Election 2008 homepage has? Anybody else want to second my motion???

I am sooooo looking forward to Nov 4th. I feel like my life has been on hold since Bible Spice spoke at the RNC. My family probably agrees with me. I’ve been a bad mother & wife!

Anyway, OT, on the topic of election night parties, if anyone here is in Eagle River or East Anchorage (or other parts if you want to drive), I am pondering throwing an election night party… For my great family members also supporting Obama/Biden, and like-minded friends. So, if you’re in the area and want to come along, give me a thumbs up here, in the meantime I will put some details up over at the forum.

23 10 2008
More Light Than Heat

And how would an image “carved” on someone easily become a mirror image??? Why, by using a mirror, of course. I haven’t seen the pictures of this, but just reading about “odd” shiners and a backwards “B” makes one quite suspicious. Sad that it comes to this.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

KAT, why shouldn’t a self-proclaimed hockey mom have a super make up artist.. one needs to hide her horns and the vampire teeth and red skin makes it VERY VERY expensive..

duh..!🙂

23 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

NoCalGal (19:07:19) :

Anonymous and all the mudpuppies… with no more debates- we need to plan a night to get together with our bottles of wine or drink of choice and to live blog… and I mean before the victory celebration…

here’s a health to you! Hope your crazy co workers give you a break
__________________________________________________________________

I don’t know why I was Anonymous there for a minute, but I don’t want to be! That’s an excellent idea: getting together with a bottle of wine and live blogging. Thanks for thinkin’ it up!

I like the idea of

23 10 2008
LaNon

FireDogLake.com
is a very intelligent (like this!) news blog I love, and in the political silo area is a great article about SP & TP’s depositions scheduled for tomorrow;

link above, adding the www. at front. here’s the intro:

Palin Deposed Friday: Will She Lie Or Throw The First Dude Under the Bus?
By: Christy Hardin Smith Thursday October 23, 2008 7:45 pm

Sarah Palin is scheduled to be deposed on Friday in the second round of “troopergate” investigations currently being conducted by the AK personnel board. Which is interesting because I still think that Palin may have broken state law in how she allowed multiple state personnel files to be handled by husband, Todd. And I’m wondering whether that issue will be part of the investigation.

Let me explain why this is important.

23 10 2008
NoCalGal

SMR Love the idea!! Widget clock thingy counting down… yes!!!

23 10 2008
Carol(IL)

Hey mudflatters-

I was enjoying a day at Lincoln Park Zoo today and found this quote which immediately made me think about community organizers and Mudflats🙂

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
Margaret Mead

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

Me too Lighthouse!! But where to run? Where to hide?

Somebody have that SP woman committed, she is sooo delusional.

23 10 2008
Lacy Lady

To Nana from Alaska
What a beautiful Letter. ——-This is what this election is all about!!!!

23 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

take the http:// off of the front of any website and just start it with www. and the website will post “Clickable” with the http:// automatically added.

For some reason, if you try to post a link with http:// starting it, it won’t work unless you delete the http:// first, then post the remainder of the link.

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Yes, what was I thinking, $1500 a day to hide her scary parts is probably quite a deal. It does make the clothes look like a bargain since those are actually tangible and I’m sure will go to the needy on Nov. 5th.

23 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin
23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Carol, that’s just perfect..!

23 10 2008
Lana, KY

MUST READ ~

http://firedoglake.com/

By: Christy Hardin Smith Thursday October 23, 2008 7:45 pm

sorry if this has already been linked ~ I’m worn out . . .

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Non-Horn Tooter

Lana, only 2 posts above yours, and 4-5 times before that..🙂

but it’s ok, no one will spank you, unless you like it, of course..!

23 10 2008
LaNon

thanks vlad

23 10 2008
Bella the Bunny Girl

According to http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/23/politically-motivated-mutilation-real-or-hoax/ Pittsburgh police are already looking into the possibility it’s a hoax.

I’d warn anyone looking around the various sites to find info to think carefully before reading the comments. Nasty trolls on both sides have really taken off with this particular story, and I say that as someone who’s usually immune to trollish nonsense.

23 10 2008
ira2

Off topic:

South America is pretty much bursting into bloom with dots on the Mudflatters Around the Globe map. I looked at it this morning and thought, hey, that little yellow one in Chile looks like it’d be right about in the region I looked at as a potential home in the future (Los Lagos), and this evening, there’s big yellow dots both there and across the land in the east, along with more small yellow dots and the big orange one.
Dots in the southern half of Africa are blossoming too, along with the Middle East, India and Asia (looks like quite a bit of interest in China!)

AKM, did you think it’d spread this far this fast when you started mudflats? :o)

23 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (18:35:33) :

Imagine sitting face to face with the pair of them. That’s enough reason to look down, but you’d probably avoid looking at the floor since that would make it too obvious.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy The Coward

Ok, I’ve changed my stripes.. Call me McGrumpy, i change my look every day or 2..

But this one makes me cringe.. McGrumpy, the Coward.. Rolling Stone reported on it, names and dates.. While The Forrestal was burning, due to McGrumpy’s plane crash on the deck, he was hiding (cowering maybe?) while his mates on the ship died or were burned. Of course, it didn’t stop mcCoward from telling the story as a hero he always pretended to be.

I vote we have a universal call for McCoward as his new official and legal name. It fits him well…

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/1

23 10 2008
SMR

Okay, I suck — I was going over to the Forum to post info about an election night party, decided I should double-check my husband’s flight arrival time, and darned if he isn’t scheduled in at 6 pm. Which means of course that it could be anytime between 6 & 10 or later depending on weather… Which means I can’t have my party!!!

Okay, well, I’m hoping that we will all still be here after Nov 4th to bask in the glow of our new President Obama, and that being the case that I will be able to put out a feeler for a post-election happiness get-together…

But I still want a countdown clock!

23 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Mr. Cranky Pants is getting so worked up lately, he actually seems to be shrinking in front of our eyes. It won’t be long before he becomes a McMunchkin.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy The Coward

SMR, your wish is my command..

http://www.electioncountdown.us/

23 10 2008
ira2

Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (19:22:26) :

Yes, what was I thinking, $1500 a day to hide her scary parts is probably quite a deal. It does make the clothes look like a bargain since those are actually tangible and I’m sure will go to the needy on Nov. 5th.

Well, if any “needy” receive clothes that expensive, it’ll be held against them when they go apply or reapply for assistance or food stamps. One of the questions on the application forms deals with gifts received within the last three (or six) months. If you’ve received gifts (charity, personal, any which way), the value of them is counted as an asset for you which is likely to lower your benefits. I doubt that getting to wear a very, very expensive hand-me-down leather jacket would make up for a cut in financial/food assistance.

23 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (19:07:35) :

You have to admit that Palin’s travelling stylist, is doing a better job his foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann. The real question is what was his economic policy advisor paid? If its more than Scheunemann there is some real unfairness, assuming they’re paid on the basis of the relative quality of their work.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy The Coward

AKM,, if you wanna add a election countdown clock.. here’s a link if you have access to add html.. fairly simple reverse clock coding..

http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html

23 10 2008
squee

What time on Friday will she be deposed? Because according to the WSJ, she’ll be in PA gearing up another attack and using Trig to do it (color me stunned! Not.)

Looking for fresh ways to press the tax issue, John McCain plans to roll out a new attack against Barack Obama on Friday, claiming the Democrat’s plan would increase the burden on families with special needs children.

Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee whose infant son, Trig, has Down Syndrome, will debut the new attack during a rally Friday morning in Pittsburgh, aides said, and the campaign said it could launch television or radio ads featuring special needs families targeting Sen. Obama on the issue.

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

The stadium where Palin held her rally today holds 3,000. She got 1,000. I had phone calls yesterday and today urging me to attend. I never pick up on these calls. Next time I think I will ask them what they are doing. I am sooooo uninterested in Sarah Palin’s appearances. I also received 2 robo calls. One from Ridge and one from Sarah. Can I report all this unwanted attention as harassment?

23 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

What’s the word? Tinklenberg! Heh. Funny.

Boy. I’m exhausted catching up on all the threads. About the girl being mugged: I don’t believe it, and if it’s not true, she better be charged with someone. I am tired of white women blaming the scary black men for things they (the latter two) didn’t do.

If she was attacked, all my symapthies to her. However, I won’t believe it unless she gets checked out by a doctor. There are too many holes in her story.

Gah. How many more days do we have? i don’t think I can take it much longer!

By the way, I think the dirt is gonna get dirtier over the next two weeks, so let’s be ready.

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@More Light Than Heat (19:15:38) :

And how would an image “carved” on someone easily become a mirror image??? Why, by using a mirror, of course. I haven’t seen the pictures of this, but just reading about “odd” shiners and a backwards “B” makes one quite suspicious. Sad that it comes to this
———————–
I have no reason not to believe the girl was mugged – but how did she determine the politics of the mugger? I believe that is one big lie! She works for the Conservatives in a state where they’re losing.

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

ira2,
I know, I had tongue firmly planted in snarky cheek. I totally realize no needy person will get any of that swag, but you make a good point that even if they did dispose of it in a charitable way it would actually hurt a struggling person/family. Honestly, she and they just make me crazy, virtually everything I read about them sends me into a fit.

I need to limit myself to reading the lovely things, like the letter A Nana posted many comments ago.

23 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy The Coward

Hick, that’s fantastic news.. Barbie’s popularity is tanking.. Not even getting a full house in a small venue shows what’s going on.. It explains why the camera never leaves the stage anymore showing crowd shots..

People are catching on. Realizing she’s an empty and embarassing and no need to know anything else. Means McCoward and JailBird Barbie are cooked moose.

23 10 2008
LaNon

In addition to some real doubters on the comments blog at the pittsburghchannel.com forums, there is some REALLY interesting stuff at The Smoking Gun:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1023083twitter1.html

23 10 2008
Augie

Ohhh, this is gooood!
Looks like Wardrobe-gate just got even more curious.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/104410/an_unexpected_twist%3A_palin%27s_%24150%2C000_wardrobe_doesn%27t_add_up/

23 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@eajphd Molten Contra Palin (19:32:42) :
Imagine sitting face to face with the pair of them. That’s enough reason to look down, but you’d probably avoid looking at the floor since that would make it too obvious.
_______________________________________________
Easy – just focus on the middle distance …… they would think you were cross-eyed.😉

ps: I have Saturday newspaper liftout here that I borrowed from the library, with a giant version of the infamous unairbrushed Newsweek pic on the cover. I put it down twice before I finished it and both times when I noticed it later I couldn’t turn it face down fast enough. She creeps me out as badly as McCadaver!

23 10 2008
Glenn2008

am I the only one detecting in the McC/P interview the desperation in their laugh?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27339865#27328627

23 10 2008
Susan, WA

Excellent article on the Civics (and U.S. Constitution) classes that
SP has missed along the way:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/23/54220/934/203/639500

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy The Coward (19:50:40) :
…People are catching on. Realizing she’s an empty and embarassing and no need to know anything else. Means McCoward and JailBird Barbie are cooked moose.
*****
I think so. I am as Blue as it gets. They know that too. The voter records that they use tell your registration and whether you voted in each election during the past 10 years. That includes whether your voted in your party’s primary. For them to be harassing dems says they are really reaching. They really have no ground operation to speak of. I know someone who was called to get out the vote on the 4th. This person is a Republican and sort of has to do it but I know will vote Obama. It is really wierd in PA.

23 10 2008
schnauzer

@ira2 What usually happens when such clothing is donated to charity is that the garb is auctioned off to big buck’s supporters by the charity. Although the thought of that red jacket on a shopping bag lady does have it’s appeal.

23 10 2008
akbearable

Now has anybody read this?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/23/s

looks like juror #4 has skipped town. Could this be some sort of Juey tampering thing like some Grisham novel?

23 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Oh, and McCain and Palin’s attempts to define elitist are so damn incoherent. Her definition sounds nothing like what she actually uses it for, and his sneering tone when talking about Washington D.C., New York City and “Georgetown cocktail parties” are almost more than I can tolerate. I rarely listen to either of them talk; it’s bad for my blood pressure.

As for the trial, I wouldn’t be surprised if a hung jury occurs.

23 10 2008
LaNon

Augie (19:55:52) :

Ohhh, this is gooood!
Looks like Wardrobe-gate just got even more curious.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/104410/an_unexpected_twist%3A_palin%

—————-

they (those ones) just do not get the instantaneity of the brave new world…damn, not just the web, but phones and bottom up commnications.
thanks for good link!

23 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

“Although the thought of that red jacket on a shopping bag lady does have it’s appeal”.

That’s who’s wearing it now.

23 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Hick Town in W PA, you should have went to the rally and reported back! I wanted to do that at the McCain rally here, but you have to volunteer first. I wasn’t willing to go that far.

I am midnight blue, and I have gotten the mailers and a robocall from the McCain campaign as well. I have no idea how I got on their list, but it really pisses me off. So far, four mailers and one robocall. Let’s see what else I get.

23 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

as always its been a fun and informative evening with the Muddies. Mom is really tired tonight and is going to attempt to go to sleep early. Hopefully I won’t dream about SWWNBN again, last time she stole my car!

Night all …. sweet dreams.

23 10 2008
akbearable

Juror # 4 has gone AWOL! Could this trial be a movie in making? Can you say “JURY TAMPERING”

23 10 2008
ira2

Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (19:49:35) :

ira2,
I know, I had tongue firmly planted in snarky cheek. I totally realize no needy person will get any of that swag, but you make a good point that even if they did dispose of it in a charitable way it would actually hurt a struggling person/family. Honestly, she and they just make me crazy, virtually everything I read about them sends me into a fit.

I need to limit myself to reading the lovely things, like the letter A Nana posted many comments ago.

Yeah :o) Wasn’t that just beautiful??

And my brother-in-something (my sister’s fiance) just sent me an email with a post he’s writing for his blog to ask if I’m ok with it since he’s mentioning me… it’s too long to quote and all that, but at the end, he says, “While I can only cast one vote on November 4th, I feel honored that I can count three others as supporting my action, and hopefully realizing the benefits the promise of Barack Obama brings.” (The three others are his wife who passed away before he met my sister, my sister, and I, unable to vote.)
I’m still wiping off the tears… it’s really, really hard not to be able to vote “for real”, so knowing that I get to be there in spirit and be counted as a supporter at least that way is a beautiful thing.

23 10 2008
akbearable

JUROR # 4 LEAVES THE STATE. Sites family emergency and now is unreachable by the court.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/23/stevens.trial/index.html

23 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

G’Night Tired Mom!

I’ve crawled into bed with laptop (and hubby, so he won’t feel alone!) but it’s harder to type coherently this way!

Dream of mudpuppies and a better tomorrow.

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Schnauzer,
I swear it’s the last thing I’m saying about SP and her new clothes but you’re right of course, if they can pry them out of her hands the Repubs will auction them off like she’s Princess Di or something. Or they’ll give them to her and pay the taxes on them for her like a consolation prize and then get to planning her victorious return in 2012.

23 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

ira2, you are definitely with us in spirit and, to my humble mind, much more qualified to vote than many Americans. Cheers to your brother-in-something for recognizing that!

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Ira2,
That’s beautiful. I take it you are not a US citizen? Where are you?

23 10 2008
Lighthouse (CO)

ira2, nice story, nice brother-in-something!

Obviously, you have been a part of this election!

23 10 2008
Susan, WA

Thanks ‘Road Runner’ for the info on Madia.

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Great opinion piece by Eugene Robinson on election obsession. I know you guys can totally identify.

.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302883.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

23 10 2008
Susan, WA

The only comfort I have in the thought of SP running for Pres. in
2012 is it will easily give Obama a 2d term!

23 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

I agree with that Susan, Wa.
New thread up

23 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

The Republican party is going to rip itself to pieces now. Their coalition is spent. Now you are going to hear about Obama Republicans just like the Reagan Democrats. Same phenomenon. The fundies are a minority.

I worked on contracts at the Pentagon when Reagan came in. It was totally wild. The same was true with Clinton. A change in government really shakes things up. This change will be even greater because of the actual power that dems will hold and because I believe the transition with Obama will be much smoother than the other two.

23 10 2008
ira2

@ asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN (20:19:27) :

Thanks :o) Even if you’re not helping me to dry up my eyes with that, LOL!!

@ Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (20:21:18) :

Living in way northern Minnesota, permanent US resident for some 17 or 18 years, German citizen. I’d be a naturalized US citizen if fate would only get around to playing along for once.

@ Lighthouse (CO) (20:22:23) :

Yes, my brother-in-something is definitely a cream-of-the-crop good guy. Sis chose well. Of course, so did he. Btw, they’re in Kansas, so my getting to be there in the voting booth “in spirit” makes it even better!

23 10 2008
SMR

@Marty,

Wow! Is it really that easy? I need to have you talk to my husband! Those words rank right up there with “have you lost weight?”!

24 10 2008
Mollys Mum

@ responsiblecitizen08 (18:21:51) :

This just goes to show I should never be allowed near a computer when I’ve had more than one glass of wine. I meant MCCAIN was fixated on her thighs, not poor (Brian–I do know his first name–blush) Williams, whom I also like very very much.

Will promise to proofread in the future.

So go back and watch the clip again, and watch McShame’s wandering eyes. LOL.




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