Jury Dismissed for the Day at Stevens Trial.

22 10 2008

The jury in the Senator Ted Stevens corruption trial has left for the day. (door closing noise)

They were supposed to leave at 4:45pm, but asked permission to leave early.

The jury returned to Sullivan’s court at 4:25 p.m. Sullivan said they had sent a note.

Paraphrasing, he said jurors wanted to leave early. “Kind of stressful right now – we need a minute of clarity right now.”

No problem, Sullivan said. “Of course I will let you go.”

What does this mean? I was expecting a request for more dry erase markers, or a question about an electrical invoice, or something else. But “Can we go early because we’re stressed out?” I didn’t see that one.

So, what do you think?


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22 10 2008
Mad Skillz, son

First?

22 10 2008
Rope Hoover Palin aka Misfit

Early? Stressed? OMG

22 10 2008
fawnskin hussein mudpuppy

first again…how can that be

22 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

OJ’s gonna get sentenced in the not-so distant future; what are the odds that Uncle Ted and OJ will be roomates? Who gets the top bunk?

22 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

I’m sure they’re all quite stressed from the weeks of having to listen to all that stuff. I know I would be. Here’s hoping a good evening off and a good night of sleep brings them the clarity and fresh outlook they’ll need to send him on up the river.

22 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

It means they are not in agreement over all of the charges. Been on a jury and it can get pretty heated at times. Geez just reading that gives me flashbacks!

It also means they are not giving up and will look at it with fresh eyes and will renew their own arguments tomorrow. Trying to get an agreement.

Hope it is not a hung jury!

22 10 2008
captain crab

Stressed out = Martini Time!!

22 10 2008
SoCal Gal

Part 1 of 2 part post: Page 1 -13 (next post 14-27)

Let’s see how much of this gets put into overdrive in the next 12 days.

KARL ROVE PLAYBOOK

People believe what they want to believe and find facts to support those beliefs, without checking the validity of the facts. That is why the Karl Rove Playbook works.

page 1: If a candidate proves to be incapable of mastering the Karl Rove Playbook within a month, the candidate must step down for personal reasons unrelated to the campaign or the candidate’s qualifications.

page 2: If you need to lie, make it an outrageous lie, it will set the first perception and stick in people’s minds. Those who want to believe it will spread it like wildfire. The media will make it a news story because it is controversial and report on it neutrally to show their lack of bias.

page 3: The best lies are ones that cannot easily be disproven or would take a lengthy explanation to disprove.

page 4: “repeat the big lie”, “repeat the big lie”, “repeat the big lie”, “repeat the big lie”, “repeat the big lie”, “repeat the big lie”, “repeat the big lie”

page 5: once or twice a month associate the opponent with new criminal, under-investigation, unsavory, unpopular characters or organizations.

page 6: complain about press bias, the mainstream media sorts will cower, cringe and try to seek false equivalences between the two campaigns

page 7: keep the media off substantive issues, focus them on character issues, complaints about the opposition and campaign nonsense.

page 8: Whenever asked what your candidate would do in a given situation, ONLY talk about what the other candidate would do – not forgetting to use the big lie if necessary.

page 9: If an unfavorable article appears in a content sharing website (digg, buzz) get it tagged as “inaccurate information”.

page 10: Play to people’s emotional fears, e.g. accuse your opponent of being “soft on terror”, “extremist liberal”, etc.

page 11: If an ethnic or sexist slur can raise emotional fears don’t use slurs directly, instead use terms that trigger the emotional response, e.g. uppity, minority, etc.

page 12: Send anonymous emails to large mailing lists asking questions that imply the candidate is guilty of moral depravity. e.g. “Did the candidate really molest that child in 1986? Heard a rumor and just wanted to check.”

page 13: If an ethnic or sexist slur can raise emotional fears consider hiring people of that ethnicity to protest at the opponents rallies.

Page 14- 27 next post.

22 10 2008
SoCal Gal

Part 2 Karl Robe Playbook cont’d:

page 14: “Repeat the message”, “repeat the message”, “repeat the message”, “repeat the message”, repeat the message”, “repeat the message”, “repeat the message”…ad nauseum

page 15: Never, ever admit you made an error.

page 16: Before engaging in unethical or illegal behavior, accuse your opponent of doing it – not forgetting the big lie if necessary.

page 17: There is never a good idea that is too small to steal and use as your own.

page 18: Put spies everywhere so that you can steal the opponent’s ideas. This is most effective when you get to the media with it first.

page 19: If you aren’t sure what the popular answer to a question is, give an answer on the order of, “yes and no, for sure”.

page 20: Always be aware of your audience and tell them what they want to hear. It is perfectly fine to give one answer one day and the opposite answer the next. That way if your opponent accuses you of saying one thing you can say he is lying and refer to the time you said the opposite.

page 21: If you have a candidate that is an unknown quantity, control all public appearances and communications. The rules about how or when the candidate can speak for themselves are currently being drafted and being gradually released for testing.

page 22: Never, ever, use the word “recession” unless the words “will be the cause of” and the opponents name are in the same sentence.

page 23: Never, ever, use the word “depression” unless you can blame it on the opposition and ride in on your white horse to the rescue.

page 24: Most Americans only read headlines, so concoct a headline that serves your purposes, whether it has anything to do with the article or not.

page 25: If you need perceptions reset in your favor, postpone a publicized public event because your leadership is needed for some crisis (the riding in on the white horse to save the day scenario).

page 26: If the statistics your administration are coming up with will be unpopular, game the statistics e.g. if inflation rates look high remove items that show high inflation (food, oil, etc.) and add items that show deflation (electronics, real estate sales).

page 27: If you need more power to get legislation passed, announce a crisis and the need to take action immediately. This will cause hysteria about the situation and gain support for otherwise unpopular legislation that will consolidate and increase the power of your office.

Should be an interesting 12 days and counting.

Obama/Biden 2008

22 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Curious about one thing… is that jury sequestered?

22 10 2008
whichferret

Don’t wanna have to be on any jury, and that one is a jury that I wanna be on even less than most….yikes that is a jury duty from HELL

22 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

@sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party (16:06:46) :

Oh, I would hope so! Can’t recall seeing anything about it, but my guess is that it’s standard practice in cases like this.

22 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

All those details. Is something unwanted and unasked for a gift or not? If not these items gifts, then what constitutes a reportable gift?

On another front, excellent article on how Obama is winning the support of veterans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-j-ognibene/how-obama-is-winning-vete_b_136501.html

22 10 2008
Michele

I’m predicting a hung jury. If they are this stressed this early in deliberations, I’d suspect there are one or two absolute holdouts–probably Stevens fans. The mess the prosecution made of certain elements of the case isn’t going to help. How popular is Ted Stevens in general in Alaska? I get the impression he enjoys largely favorable status up there.

22 10 2008
ED

A Nana

I never ask for gifts, but members of the family give me things for birthdays, Christmas, etc. Some are unwanted, all are unasked for. Are they gifts?

22 10 2008
ira2

Hm. Is that standard practice, juries asking to leave early and getting permission? Or is it out of the ordinary?

I can understand that they get stressed out and need a bit of a break (walk away, don’t fight, take a step back, simmer down and all that). I could imagine that there’s really more to this than just “Stevens didn’t report gifts, is he guilty or not?” I mean, add things like personal affinity or dislike for the man (given the Alaskan political and people environment), or political preferences during a charged campaign (swaying one’s tolerance about what’s ok and what isn’t), and I can see why they’d get pretty heated up over it all. If stepping out early to give everybody a chance to cool down is an acceptable option, they did well taking it.

So… is it? An acceptable option?

22 10 2008
Quarter Granite Palin

In case you haven’t already seen it, here’s the link to Todd and Sarah’s recent interview with People magazine. I especially love when SP defends the honor of her high school drop out soon to be newly weds.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20235099_1,00.html

22 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

If there is a hung jury, new, more competent federal prosecutors would be in a position to retry the case next year. That could prove very interesting if Sarah was facing legal problems at the same time.

22 10 2008
suchanut

Hmmmm. This was in an adn.com article:

“The first of seven counts accuses Stevens of scheming to cover up false filings, while the other six charge him directly with lying on the Senate forms for failing to disclose gifts and benefits in excess of the Senate gift limits. Those limits ranged from $260 in 2000 to $305 in 2006.”

I’ve never been on a jury, can anyone explain how a jury would approach these charges? What goes on in the Jury Room?

22 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McCain, Obama and the Psychology of Decisions

http://www.pubrecord.org/commentary/414-mccain-obama-and-the-psychology-of-decisions.html

A very interesting article.

I don’t think Sarah Palin makes decisions at all. I think she just reacts. She doesn’t really ever think anything out AT ALL! Look at her “decision” to be Mac Daddy’s running mate! Duh. Not too bright! Gawd I would love to play poker against her in Las Vegas. I’d own that house in Wasilla and all of her and Todd’s snow machines within two hours. And maybe the $150,000 in clothes too. That might come in real handy if I try to hit on ex-trophy wives from the geniuses at Lehman Brothers. I’d have a lot of stuff but would be limited in scope to size 8 ex-trophy wives only.

22 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

The whole Stevens’ trial has brought up the issue of what’s a gift and what’s a loan as well as the question of what constitutes the appearance of corruption. The Palin’s wardrobe controversy only amplifies that. It also raises questions about whether these people have any sense of what average people think. For example what sort of message are they sending with the photo shoot of Piper Palin in a regular shirt and Jeans but carrying a $790 Louis Vuitton bag?
{http://deceiver.com/2008/10/22/sarah-palin-real-american-mom/]

22 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Folks, I believe we are witnessing a once-in-a-lifetime event.

The Death of the Republican Party as we know it today.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/10/22/gop-death-list-predicts-democratic-blowout-in-the-house.html

22 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Update on the bag – it’s counterfeit {http://deceiver.com/]

I wonder how much they paid for it? It seems to be a good symbol for the entire McCain campaign – pretending to be something of higher grade and hoping people will just buy into it without question, then getting exposed as a fraud. Boy, I do love the Internets.

22 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

where’s everyone at?? usually lots of chatter this time of night …. seems eerily quiet here. This is a test…

22 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Tired Mom (VA) (17:51:48) :

I know you’re tired from work family, etc. I think everybody else may be getting sensory overload and “blogging out”.

22 10 2008
Blue in MT

@Tired Mom
There’s a number of folks at the Obama Landslide page.

22 10 2008
aoeu

Love the troly water. Could you please spam filter ‘hussein’ except in the context of saddam or Barrack Hussein Obama. Thank you.

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Piper’s Louis Vuitton bag looks like a fake–color is wrong. I suspect that it is an illegally copied version. Bad example for your daughter Sarah. VP candidates should discourage such illegal activity. Bad example for your country.

22 10 2008
LaNon

Could be trouble with the jury. Factions. Hot heads.
Sounds like jury could hang.
Could be a bad foreman.

Not good news. But smart to take a break if things were getting bad.

I’m a *trial-watcher* and have sat to wait for juries before.
Phil Spector jury most recently. That was a VERY troubled jury which
is why PS got away with murder. His new trial has just started, and
they are in jury selection now.

22 10 2008
LaNon

Ira: the request for early leave is unusual.

22 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

My jury experience is limited, but I can easily see why they might have asked to get out a half hour early. Sometimes the discussions get a little heated. The jurors are, after all, just folks, and out of twelve folks it’s not uncommon to find two or three that are maybe a wee bit defensive, or maybe passive-aggressive.

Also, at least here in CA, you don’t get ANY guidance about how to proceed. The poor sucker who gets elected foreman (that was me on my first jury) finds him/herself herding cats, unless the evidence provides a slam-dunk. What guidance you get generally comes from people who have served on juries before (and were therefore too smart to get elected foreman). Multiple charges makes it much worse, because they have to be considered separately. The fact that this is a high-profile case must also make it harder to get consensus.

Anyhow, it’s easy to imagine getting near the end of the day with some of the jurors withdrawing into silos, and possibly taking personal umbrage at competing viewpoints. It might well be a good idea to call a time-out; almost certainly the last twenty or thirty minutes are not going to result in a verdict. Jurors do continue to think about the case out of the jury room, and may have calmed down by the next day.

About sequestering — I don’t know about this case, but sequestering is very uncommon. It costs a lot, and it pisses off the jury. It’s normally only used when there is serious concern that the jurors will see or hear of possibly inadmissable evidence. I don’t think either side has tried to suppress any substantial evidence in this case, so I’d be a little surprised if the jury was sequestered. I guess I could just check, huh?

22 10 2008
wired hussein differently

must. not. cast. cookie. crumbs. upon. ‘troly’. waters.

22 10 2008
LaNon

ED (16:39:54) :A Nana
I never ask for gifts, but members of the family give me things for birthdays, Christmas, etc. Some are unwanted, all are unasked for. Are they gifts?

———–
If you accept it, it is a gift. The only way out is to return the gift to the giver.
You can’t accept it and then pass it on–still a gift, for example.

Loan is the *mushier* term.
I will lend you my chair for a few years.
Fuzzier.

22 10 2008
LaNon

THe jury is ABSOLUTELY given instructions by the judge in California. Sometimes those instructions can be confusing for the jury.

The jury can send a question to a judge as well, and get guidance on how to proceed.

22 10 2008
LaNon

Stranglet: Also, at least here in CA, you don’t get ANY guidance about how to proceed. ….What guidance you get generally comes from people who have served on juries before (and were therefore too smart to get elected foreman).

————————————-

Unless you came in with “not guilty” this would have resulted in a mistrial.
Jury instructions are frequently grounds for appeal.
I’m talking big cases here.

22 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

LaNon (18:07:49) :

Loan is the *mushier* term.
I will lend you my chair for a few years.
———————————————————

Mushy, true. But if the loaned item is cash-equivalent, or some classes of assets, the IRS has some fairly persnickity rules about how to distinguish a “loan” from a “gift”. One of them is that there has to be some credible expectation that the loan is going to be “repaid”. In the case of depreciable assets, I think the loss in value during the “loan” would also be considered income to the “borrower”. Certainly, no one would care about a chair, but suppose, for example, I loan you a brand new car, and you use it and give it back in five years. I’m pretty sure the difference between my original cost basis and the FMV when you give it back would be reportable income for you.

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

or suppose I loan you a $150,000 wardrobe!

22 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

@LaNon: Perhaps I was not clear. The jury definitely gets instructions from the judge on matters of law. What you don’t get — or at least I have not gotten — are practical suggestions for managing the deliberations.

22 10 2008
LaNon

judi hussein that one Obama (18:27:39) :
or suppose I loan you a $150,000 wardrobe!
————-
hey, i’d be talking to a tax attorney about depreciation to try to buy my favs~

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

or suppose that you are running for office because you really care about your country!

22 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

Tired Mom (VA) (17:51:48) :

where’s everyone at?? usually lots of chatter this time of night …
———————————–

That $150K shopping spree forced my blood pressure into the “End-zone”, so I gave myself a 16 hour “No Palin Time” (like Miller Time but ….)
I still can’t get over that. Fiscal Reformers?
That $150K is the equivalent of Obama’s 3% tax on 60 Joe-the-I-make-$250K /year plumbers!

Between Palin’s absolute B.S., Nancy “Real Virginia” Pfootenanny, and B@# Bachmann, I’m really starting to hate women, and I AM ONE!

You know, there’s people, (like me) who are losing their homes, have lost their vehicles, and are even hoping the neighbor (without whose 100 foot ethernet cable one might not even be online!), might call tonight to say there’s some leftovers “Do you want ’em?”, whose shoes are worn well-past wearing with job-hunting, who has needed haircolor for 3 months, and a couple of broken teeth repaired but there’s a kid or three to feed first,…and this jackass is wearing $150K worth of 8 weeks clothes?

I guess I needed a longer break.

On a good note, I woke up to Obama saying “Hi, How are ya?”. My eyes popped open, I recognized the voice, and there he was, on Ellen, via phone/video. She said Michelle had been talking smack about his dancing ability and she made him dance, which he did. Too funny!
Much better than thinking about those dang clothes!

I don’t think Alaska’s going to have to worry about SP when she comes back. Y’know, it’s hard to keep ’em down on the farm, once they’ve seen Pareee!
I see the d-i-v-o-r-c-e- coming up right after the return to Ak where she has protesters in the streets demanding a recall.

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

ED (16:39:54) :

A Nana

I never ask for gifts, but members of the family give me things for birthdays, Christmas, etc. Some are unwanted, all are unasked for. Are they gifts?
____________________

3 things, Ed.

1) is Allen a member of the Stevens family?

2) do you hold elected office?

3) might there be some favor returned in exchange for the “unwanted” and/or unasked for gifts?

22 10 2008
Karen

I wish I could go to sleep and wake up on Nov 5 (I already voted). I don’t know if I can take the stress for the next 13 days. I’m fairly confident but anything can happen.
Also, I never want to hear Pat Buchanan talk about Sarah Palin again! She’s so attractive – that’s why we don’t like her. That’s it! He figured it out.

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

judi hussein that one Obama (18:32:31) :

or suppose that you are running for office because you really care about your country!
__________

in the case of Sarah Palin, we’d need to know about which country she cares about first, the 50 United States or an independent of the other 49 states Alaska.

do you know?

I don’t but Alaska 😉

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

well, knikgoose, guess we ought to be thankful for one thing when it comes to her clothes: she has some to put on. it could be worse. she could be like Britney Spears and keep taking them off until even the guys get tired of looking.

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

The mood tonight is not so good. But we will all be celebrating soon because Barack Obama will soon be our president!

22 10 2008
pj

Hi all,
found a tid-bit about Palin’s clothing “loan”…likened to Steven’s loans🙂
I found it interesting partly b/c i didn’t think it would be pursued; but now perhaps???

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/tax-expert-pali.html

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

sauer kraut (18:42:59) :

Oh no, I don’t in any way think that Sarah Palin cares about anything but herself.

Barack Obama cares about his country and will be our next president!

22 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Palin to drop first puck at Blues game

ST. LOUIS (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate and self-proclaimed “hockey mom” Sarah Palin will drop the ceremonial first puck Friday night at the St. Louis Blues’ game against the Los Angeles Kings.

The Blues say the Alaska governor and running mate of Republican John McCain confirmed Wednesday that she’ll make a stop at Scottrade Center.

Palin has scheduled an appearance at a rally Friday morning at Missouri State University in Springfield.

The Blues said more details will be announced Thursday.

22 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

Just wanted to report, in case it hasn’t been posted, that while the Stevens jury is out there trying to take a breath, I joined about 18 thousand other people at the Obama rally in Leesburg, Virginia tonight.

Obama joked about real Virginia and got serious when he made it clear there was no place anymore, not now, for dividing up the country into any kinds of groupings. The crowd went wild.

The sun was shining while we waited for him to arrive (and he did, ahead of time even), the cool wind was brisk and my cheeks are slightly chapped but I gulped in the air along with the excitement, grateful for the chance to stand with all the other people there, in support of unity and fairness and a new direction we so desperately need.

Yes, we can get rid of corrupt, petrified curmudgeons like Ted Stevens. Yes, we can bring about real reform, not the kind you buy at Nieman Marcus. Yes, we can elect the dynamic, forward-thinking, compassionate duo of Obama/Biden to office in 13 days.

Yes, we can. 🙂 Now, I have to go carve my O’Pumpkin!

22 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

We should expect this, but it’s sickening all the same

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/gop-representatives-launc_n_136838.html

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein (18:54:43) :

Thank you so much for your report..Your kind words make me feel as if I were there . Just a few more days and our nation will begin to heal.

Thanks for sharing!

22 10 2008
Earmark Ulu Palin

(to the tune of the Twelve Days of Christmas)

…On the twelfth day to the election
The jury gave to me
A request to go home early…

(to be continued)

22 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Bachmann says she was trapped, words twisted

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=527353&catid=2

Bet she wept at hundreds of thousands of dollars going to Tinklenberg

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Hmmmm. Maybe the Republicans could sell off Sarah’s fancy duds on Ebay and donate the proceeds to fund Special Education.

They might get big bucks from Rep. female Palin wannabes, creepy Palin stalker fans seeking scented garments and Republican cross dressers.

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Aussie,
(Bachmann says she was trapped, words twisted )
Doesn’t she know that we all heard her and that her words are captured on youtube?

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

Pardon the length of this.

Hillary supporters remain bitter

ABC News’ Imtiyaz Delawala Reports: A day after Sen. Barack Obama campaigned with former Democratic rival Sen. Hillary Clinton in Florida, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin slammed him for not seriously considering Clinton to be his second-in-command, citing Obama’s decision as an example of the barriers women face in the workplace.

“When it came time for choosing, somehow Barack Obama just couldn’t bring himself to pick the woman who got 18 million votes in his primary, and that seems to be too familiar a story isn’t it?” Palin said at a rally in Henderson, NV yesterday. “How it is for so many American women that the qualifications are there, but for some reason the promotion never comes?

In stronger language than Palin has used on the campaign trail before, the comments were part of a broader attempt to sell herself as an advocate for women and working numbers at a time when Palin’s support among women has slipped dramatically in national polls since becoming the Republican vice presidential nominee.

“You’ve got to ask yourself why was Senator Hillary Clinton not even vetted by the Obama campaign?” Palin continued. “Why did it take 24 years, an entire generation from the time Geraldine Ferraro made her pioneering bid until the next time that a woman was asked to join a national ticket?”

“In the long history of our country, 74 people have held the position of President or Vice-President, and why have the major parties given America only two chances to even consider a woman for either office?” Palin asked. “This glass ceiling, it is still there, but it’s about time that we shattered that glass ceiling once and for all.”

Clinton used the “glass ceiling” metaphor during her Democratic primary run, including in her concession speech in June ending her nomination, when she told supporters, “Although we weren’t able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it’s got about 18 million cracks in it.”

Palin sought to tie her critique of Obama’s tax plans with her support for working women, while charging that Obama does not pay women in his Senate office at the same level as men, raising the issue as one of “fundamental fairness” that she would address as an advocate for working women.

“Out on the stump he talks a good game about equal pay for equal work, but according to the Senate pay roll records women on his own staff get just 83 cents for every dollar that the men get,” Palin said of Obama. “That’s 9,000 dollars less every year that he pays the guys. Does he think that the women aren’t working as hard? Does he think that they are 17 percent less productive?”

The Palin campaign cited press reports from last month and Senate records to back its claims on Obama’s pay to Senate staffers. The discrepancy, however, appears be that more top level staffers in Obama’s Senate office are men, and therefore have higher pay. The Obama campaign points to the many senior-level female staffers currently employed on the presidential campaign trial.

In a statement last night, Obama senior adviser Anita Dunn added, “Sen. Obama has fought for equal pay for an equal day’s work, while Sen. McCain has suggested that women don’t get equal pay because they need more education and training. While Sen. Obama has proposed a plan to help working women, the McCain-Palin campaign offers just more negative attacks and distortions.”

Palin has spent recent days on the campaign trail criticizing Obama’s tax policies as having elements of “socialism” that would redistribute wealth and hurt small businesses, while promoting the case of “Joe the Plumber.” Yesterday, Palin said that “women would suffer just as much from the massive tax increase that Sen. Obama proposes.”

Palin said. “The working women of this country, those who work inside the home and outside of the home, they’re overlooked by politicians in Washington, and Barack Obama hasn’t given us a single reason to believe that he would be any better.”

Palin also emphasized her own experience as a working mother, saying she would serve as an advocate for working women and for females around the world as vice president.

“When we make laws in Washington…they need to serve the mothers who are taking care of their families,” Palin said. “To make all this happen, working mothers need an advocate, and they will have one when this working mother is working for all of you in the White House.”

Palin praised her husband Todd for his support while she has pursued her political career, while saying said that federal laws need to better support working mothers — especially those in households without a father.

“I’ve been very, very blessed to have a husband who’s supported me along the way. He’s a great dad who doesn’t disappear at bath time or run from diaper duty, and I appreciate that,” Palin added. “But a lot of women have it much, much harder than I’ve had it. And they need child care, which today can cost some families a third of their household budget. And they need reforms in labor laws that allow greater flexibility in the workplace, including more tele-commuting. And they need a tax code that doesn’t penalize working families.”

As she has done before on the campaign trail, Palin cited the positive impact that Title IX had on her career.

“Women of my generation were allowed finally to make more of our own choices with education, with career, and I have never forgotten that we owe that opportunity to women, to feminists who came before us,” Palin said. “The belief in equal opportunity is not just the cause of feminists, it’s the creed of our country — equal opportunity.”

Palin said that if elected, she would seek to spread that opportunity to other women around the world, especially for those in countries facing persecution where women are “murdered in honor killings, places where women are sold like commodities in the nightmare world of the sex trade, and places where baby girls are unwelcome as a matter of state policy and their mothers are forced to have abortions.”

“Now no one person, no one leader, can bring an end to all of those ills, to all of the injustices inflicting upon women,” Palin said. “But I can promise you this, if I am elected, these women, too, will have an advocate and a defender in the 47th vice president of the United States.”

Palin was joined on stage by five women who endorsed her candidacy, including two members of the Democratic National Platform Committee, two leaders of chapters of the National Organization of Women, and a former editor of Ms. Magazine.

Lynn Rothschild, a Democratic National Platform Committee member and prominent supporter of Sen. Clinton, had endorsed the McCain-Palin ticket in September, but had not appeared publicly with Palin. Prameela Bartholomeusz also served on the Democratic Platform Committee..

Palin was also joined by Linda Klinge, the current vice president of the Oregon Chapter of the National Organization for Women. Shelly Mandell, president of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Organization for Women, also appeared in Henderson, and had previously endorsed Palin at a public rally in Carson, CA earlier this month.

The campaign has often had former Hillary Clinton supporters introduce Palin at campaign events since her nomination, in an attempt to win over disaffected Clinton supporters. After introducing the women, Palin sought to dispute the idea that the Democratic ticket would easily win the female vote.

please continue reading: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-reaches-o.html

22 10 2008
Augie

Eyes Wide Open,
Rudy Guliani might be interested. He sure seems to enjoy wearing a dress.

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

Marty was wondering earlier what other mudflatter was there… maybe he say PumpBust?

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

Augie – Rudi’s boobs don’t fill the space out as well as does Palin’s. Plus, it’s not his color (not that the dress in those other pictures look particularly good on him).

22 10 2008
SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick

I’m freaking out about voting. Vote early (and risk having my vote thrown out or not counted til after the election) or vote regular. I ran into a man in my neighborhood who works the polls, a goony guy, who randomly sweeps the sidewalks, and he mentioned he’d be working the “new” “overflow” polling place in somebody’s garage. He told me to make sure I checked my voter handbook that came in the mail to see where I will be voting and sure enough, it’s not at the Rec Center where I always vote, it’s in somebody’s freakin’ garage! (Thank you, Goony Street Sweeper Pollworker Man!) So, now I’m totally paranoid about the whole thing. Shouldn’t voting be like making a bank deposit. Shouldn’t you know it counts? Or is a vote like a gift– too much gray area for anyone but Plato to figure out?

22 10 2008
Augie

sauer kraut,
But he sure does love that lipstick!!!

22 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:04:32) :

They might get big bucks from Rep. female Palin wannabes, creepy Palin stalker fans seeking scented garments and Republican cross dressers.

*************

Scented? If reports of Mrs Palin’s personal hygiene are correct, they will be germy. Ewwww.

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

fer sure, Augie, fer sure. make sure you keep yours locked tight when he is in town.

22 10 2008
Brian aka Snooker Hinge Palin

Thought I’d pass this link along, for those who haven’t seen it: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/22/172337/89/687/639024

Written by a diarist brave enough to attempt to analyze Sarah’s word-blizzard style of unteleprompted speech. Complete with a dumptruck filled with Palin words and a Palinese Word Salad.

Gave me a good laugh.

22 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

Sauer, I tried to call Marty on arrival there, but my cell signal was being sucked up I think by either the wind or the mass of press folks there. But yes, Mudpuppies were represented!

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

To judi hussein that one Obama, (19:07:53) :”Aussie,(Bachmann says she was trapped, words twisted ) Doesn’t she know that we all heard her and that her words are captured on youtube?”

That is the new Orwellian Republican strategy. Deny brazenly what is true and the resulting sound bites you create for Faux News to play becomes the “neotruth”(c.2008)* for Faux brain washed viewers. Best example would be Palin stating she had been cleared of all ethical violations.

*I hereby humbly copywrite a new word I have just coined for the English language, “neotruth” which I define as a “truth” created out of fabricated lies, by the Republicans, for the Republicans and inteended to delete and replace the real truth.

22 10 2008
Augie

sauer kraut,
Unlike Rudy, I never wear the stuff!

22 10 2008
West Virginian aka Halter Grasshopper Palin

From USA Today: “A record number of West Virginians are registered to vote in the Nov. 4 general election. The secretary of State’s office counts 1.21 million, surpassing the previous high of 1.17 million in 1952. Democrats remain the majority, outnumbering Republicans by nearly 2 to 1.”

22 10 2008
sauer kraut

If WV Dems out-number Repubs 2-1, then why isnt VW a glowing blue state??

Or is Jack Murtha right about sentiments in that area of Appalachia?

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

So why is McCain ahead in West Virginia?

22 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:21:37) :

I hereby humbly copywrite a new word I have just coined for the English language, “neotruth” which I define as a “truth” created out of fabricated lies, by the Republicans, for the Republicans and inteended to delete and replace the real truth.

priceless!

22 10 2008
DC Palin watcher

I doubt this jury is sequestered. They were probably told to go home and not read the news or watch TV news. It is a civil trial–it would be really unusual to shell out for hotels and food, unless the judge wants to put them under greater pressure to come to a quick verdict.

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

If any media is monitoring this blog to find out what is going on (we know you are lurking), you have my permission to spread the word “neotruth” and (the dangers of the practice) about the world for the eternal good of mankind, children and small dogs.

22 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@judi hussein that one Obama, I think she has the nasty Republican Delusion Flu that’s going around. “If I spin it juuuuuuust the right way, my foot will come out of my mouth.”

What I find funny about the Republican spin over Palin’s clothes is that they are trying to charge that it’s sexist because men spend over a thousand dollars on a suit and no one say boo. Put aside the fact that a man would have to buy a hundred and fifty suits to equal this shopping spree, they are missing the point, again. They have positioned Palin as a small-town girl, campaigning in a lonely world, but then they tart her up like an expensive call-girl while decrying Obama as an elitist. Her family makes more money than does Joe Biden. The Palins could have spent a thousand bucks each and gotten decent clothing.

Harumph. I should have bought more pie.

22 10 2008
Trini

@ SoCal Gal
Your collection is impressive. Here is some disturbing insight:

“The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one”.
Adolf Hitler

Yikes!

22 10 2008
Regi

More stump speeches on the Brian Williams interview. WTH is going on? I’m guessing Palin is the new media darling and no way will anyone ask follow up question. Meanwhile Obama has the balls to do Bill O’Reilly. Gee, which one do I want to face down any enemies in the world?

22 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

BRILLIANT!!

I just received this video from the friend named in it (a hardworking Dem in a red state).

At the end it flips to a page where you can fill in your friend’s name and send it to them.

I’m going to have a lot of fun with this.😀

http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?r=31274&id=14591-10828775-cF3.zAx&nid=FSRMduaxYUbAo.Nao0q1fjI0ODk3NDc-

22 10 2008
Regi

They have positioned Palin as a small-town girl, campaigning in a lonely world, but then they tart her up like an expensive call-girl while decrying Obama as an elitist. Her family makes more money than does Joe Biden. The Palins could have spent a thousand bucks each and gotten decent clothing.

During the Williams interview she looked like she was wearing a black romper ! I can’t believe how high her skirt was hiked up, um, maybe those are her idea of “preconditions”, a new tight short dress.

22 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

My first comments were about Bachmann, but they apply to Palin as well.

22 10 2008
copybook realist

Off Topic.

please contribute to Acorn!

https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/process.php

22 10 2008
Augie

I’m waiting to see how they’re going to back away from her statement to Brian Williams about releasing her medical records.
I hope the media stays with this.

22 10 2008
West Virginian aka Halter Grasshopper Palin

No idea why WV is still red. Maybe on November 4th we will be a beautiful blue!

22 10 2008
Regi

Karen (18:40:14) :

I wish I could go to sleep and wake up on Nov 5 (I already voted). I don’t know if I can take the stress for the next 13 days. I’m fairly confident but anything can happen.
Also, I never want to hear Pat Buchanan talk about Sarah Palin again! She’s so attractive – that’s why we don’t like her. That’s it! He figured it out.

Personally I love when attractive, bright women role model success, unfortunately Palin is only half that particular package. I think I can fill one index card with everything I’ve heard this woman say in almost 2 months now !

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Back from the future,
(stardate September 2010)

Ebay item 34658975589: Black romper worn in October 2008 by disgraced former Alasken Governer Sarah Palin in Brian Williams interview prior to her loss in the 2008 election for VP and her subsequent impeachment as Governer of Alaska.

22 10 2008
Jane

This is good…a blurb on the Daily Dish:

Quote For The Day II

“McCain feels with his heart, but he thinks with his base. And when he picked Sarah Palin, he told the United States of America to go f— itself,” – Leon Wieseltier, TNR.

22 10 2008
Jane

I’m sure many of you have seen this email, but I thought it makes people really think… (Of course, I sent it to a Repub friend and she wrote back in red and defended every single one of them…kinda’ funny ’cause that is what they all seem to do!)

Here it is… “The Election…What if…”

Sometimes the best way to see the flaws in an image is to examine its reverse…

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, following the debate, including a three month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his college graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if Cindy McC ain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly display a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected a reality, if the tables were turned, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes qualities in one candid ate and emphasizes negative characteristics in another when there is a color difference.

And, think of this – the candidates’ educational backgrounds:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse Unive rsity College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin: Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism

Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.

You make the call.

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Back from the future,
(stardate September 2010)

Ebay item 34658989554: Government auction of Wasilla Alaska home of disgraced former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin and one time Republican VP candidate.

22 10 2008
kidsquid

150k for clothing. SP is so unready for VP she doesn’t even have the clothes to wear the office.

22 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Regi, that’s what makes her the perfect Barbie doll for the old, wrinkly Republicans and pundits who need a bit of help to, ah, stay frisky.

22 10 2008
Anonymous

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:28:16) :

So why is McCain ahead in West Virginia?
===========================================
Because WV is extremely predudiced. I was born and lived there for
the first 18 years of my life. The county I was in still will not allow
black people the right to live there. I was there a year ago and there
were 5 blacks living in sheer poverty. Were it not for the white
spouses they married, they would have been found shot in
the mountains somewhere. I heard many men and women say
that they would do it if the opportunity presented itself.

22 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Asiangal, have you heard from Anne? She’s been gone an awfully long time.

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Back from the future,
(stardate February 2011)

Amazon Book of the month:

“I can See Russia From My Prison Cell” by Sarah “Barracuda” Palin

22 10 2008
Jane

I’m sure many of you have seen this email, but I thought it makes people really think… (Of course, I sent it to a Repub friend and she wrote back in red and defended every single one of them…kinda’ funny ’cause that is what they all seem to do!)

Here it is… “The Election…What if…”

Sometimes the best way to see the flaws in an image is to examine its reverse…

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, following the debate, including a three month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his college graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain meds but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if Cindy McC ain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly display a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected a reality, if the tables were turned, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes qualities in one candid ate and emphasizes negative characteristics in another when there is a color difference.

And, think of this – the candidates’ educational backgrounds:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse Unive rsity College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin: Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism

Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.

You make the call.

22 10 2008
Lurker "That one" Hussein Palin

One of the many ways I can relate to Obama is that I too was
raised by my grandmother. She taught me this poem:

Smile
The thing that goes the farthest
Toward making life worth while
It cost the least
And does the most
It’s just a pleasant smile

The smile that bubbles from the heart
So pure and effervescent
It’s worth a million dollars
But it doesn’t cost a cent

Then she would add “author unknown”

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Back from the future,
(stardate May 2011)

Mysterious and still unidentified “AK Mudracker” wins Pulizer for Interent Journalism

22 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

I, too, also, agree that I’ll be glad when this election is over, also, too.

At the same time, what will we laugh at? Will mudflats bonding continue? Yes we will have a bright new world with Obama’s leadership but what will we do without McCain/Palin to kick around (in the words of tricky Dick)

Just sayin…

22 10 2008
Zim in Oz

Anyone seen this yet ?

Palin tells Dobson that election is in God’s hands and ‘right thing’ will be done
(Scroll down to the story)
{http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/}

22 10 2008
copybook realist

@Brian aka Snooker Hinge Palin (19:20:27) :

Thought I’d pass this link along, for those who haven’t seen it: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/22/172337/89/687/639024

….OOOh man, I tried to get through it all but my head hurts. SWMNBN is insane and I am feeling mavericky…please somebody save me!

22 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Off topic

Mine foes hit Alaska for withholding public papers

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93VUNN80&show_article=1&catnum=0

Another gate for Sarah?

22 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (19:28:16) :

So why is McCain ahead in West Virginia
=====================================
Because the state is so racist. I was born and lived there for
18 years. The county where I was raised still, to this day, will not
allow blacks to live in harmony there. I was there a year ago and
there were 3 black people living there. They were always afraid
for their lives. I know many people, men and women alike, that
said if the opportunity presented itself, they would be found
dead in a river somewhere. I left as soon as I could and I never
want to go back. I can’t believe that we live in the 21st century
and let this happen.

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

Back from the future,
(stardate June 2012)

Birth Notice

Former prison inmate and one time Governor Sarah Palin, age 50, has just given birth to her 7th child: Zamboni Maverick Palin.

22 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

“Palin tells Dobson that election is in God’s hands and ‘right thing’ will be done
(Scroll down to the story)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

All I can say is gosh, darn tootin she’s right, you betcha…Prolly the smartest thing she’s said yet…
and God will make sure his beloved servant, Barack Obama will be holding his hand on the Bible in January!

22 10 2008
Jane

Interesting…makes you think and when sent to a Repub, causes them to write back in bold, red writing, defending each line…

Here it is… “The Election…What if…”

Sometimes the best way to see the flaws in an image is to examine its reverse…

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, following the debate, including a three month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his college graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain meds but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly display a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected a reality, if the tables were turned, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes qualities in one candid ate and emphasizes negative characteristics in another when there is a color difference.

And, think of this – the candidates’ educational backgrounds:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse Unive rsity College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin: Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism

Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.

You make the call.

22 10 2008
Lock Pepper in Honolulu

And Michelle Obama can DANCE! You betcha! And the clothes she wears are very reasonably priced…

22 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA

well, gotta go now, nite all

22 10 2008
Bea
22 10 2008
copybook realist

@Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein (18:54:43) :

“Just wanted to report, in case it hasn’t been posted, that while the Stevens jury is out there trying to take a breath, I joined about 18 thousand other people at the Obama rally in Leesburg, Virginia tonight. ”

That must have been been great. It was a very powerful speech. I loved it because it went full circle to his speech at the 2004 convention (red/blue). For those who missed it, you can find the video of Obamas VA speech on his blog.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hqblog

22 10 2008
Bea

Night, Eyes Wide! Be careful with all that time-traveling… you don’t want to get stuck in the awesome Obama’y future…. oh, wait….😉

22 10 2008
ira2

Tired Mom (VA) (17:51:48) :

where’s everyone at?? usually lots of chatter this time of night …. seems eerily quiet here. This is a test…

Still recuperating from a nasty day of pain, and down in the dumps with the recognition that there’s as much stupidity and nastiness and selfishness “out there” as there was last time I stuck my head out of my hermit cave. The good thing is that I also see a very nutritious serving of goodness this time around (mudflats, for one), so my current mental/emotional indigestion should fade away soon.

Me, I’m a terrible drag on anything and anybody when I’m down in the dumps… better to be quiet than spread the gloom (notice I managed to spread some of it though? Apologies for that, didn’t mean to, didn’t catch myself in time.)

Josie (Empress Josephine, aka My Precious), one of the three inside cats, has dedicated herself to jacking up my spirits come hell or high water, she’s been assaulting me with relentless cuddling and snuggling and kissing, has been impervious to any childish outbursts of “EWWWWWWWWWWWW” on my account, and is determined to be a Champion Cheerleader Of Luuuv and remains entirely unfettered by any of my snarky suggestions that she might fail in her quest.
(We’ve been through this before. She always wins. Don’t ask me why I don’t just give in right away, like any sensible creature would.)

Anyway. That’s why *I* am quiet (save for a couple posts).

22 10 2008
Bea

ira2 (20:08:10) :

Anyway. That’s why *I* am quiet (save for a couple posts).
____

I’m glad you have such a good therapy cat. I’ve been turning to my pets too as my emotions ping-pong all over the place about what will happen on 11/4 and after.

My husband is similarly stressed so our dog and cat are on-call 24/7 these days for “SNUGGLE ME DOWN!” duty.

22 10 2008
White Agate

That is odd…although I would be stressed if I were a juror from AK sitting on Sen. Stevens’s trial.

AKM, where is Bristol Palin? Nary a photo or a word, or none, since the RNC. One thing a couple of weeks ago from Levi Johnston saying he thought Obama was a nice guy, but now I can’t find it.

Also, Andrew Sullivan reported that Gov. Palin says she may release her medical records, which would indicate she is healthy and has had 5 children, etc. Who knows if it actually will happen, though. I think it’s bizarre that there isn’t some protocol for candidates to release enough medical information to make sure the voting public knows what it’s getting into. Obama and Biden have not been very forthcoming, but perhaps that’s because McCain/Palin haven’t been, either. I think there should be an elections board standard for this and for press conferences for all of the candidates.

22 10 2008
Augie

Lock Pepper (19:58:56),
We’ll still be here. I hoping to see some investigatin’ and prosecutin’ of the Bush gang for the war crimes they’ve committed.

22 10 2008
kas (from Oregon)

New Thread on Hardball interview – with video embed

22 10 2008
copybook realist

@ira2

I hope that you feel better…I hate the dumps. It is dificult to see all of the hateful anger that is coming out because of this campaign. Though difficult, I believe that it is a good thing. It is like the Pied Piper drawing out all of the rats in broad daylight.

When I feel down, I listen to an inspiring Obama speech (might be difficult without good internet) or read a good book.

I will push three of my latests favorite readings on you. My Antonia, The Book Thief and a Tree Grows in Brooklyn

22 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

I apologize. Commented and posted twice as Anonymous and
Deuce. Second post is more correct. Just called by sister in
WV.

22 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

my sister, not by sister

22 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin (18:37:05) :
I think we’re kindered spirits …

“REAL” AMERICAN FAMILY SPEAKS:

Way off topic, but I want to speak out for those “middle class” people Obama/Biden will hopefully help, we are a “real” Joe the sales agent family, who the repugs pretend to direct their diatribe to, but just don’t reach because they don’t understand… the “real” world.

I will “out” my family situation here as an example of what happens to “real” Americans in times such as these. I believe we are pretty average, and certainly not alone in our circumstance. Our family is suffering from 8 years of Republican leadership! We were doing okay and even on the verge of doing pretty well when the Clinton years came to an end.

Hubby and I are self employed … business has been decreasing over last couple of years … really bottoming out now… can’t afford health insurance premiums … pay selfemployment tax on top of income tax on same income (double taxed when self empoyed, something I never understood) … hubby got sick … he’s not able to go out on sales calls like before … can’t get commission payments from factories because they can’t get credit to pay since customers are paying late for the same reason …. had to give up our small office and move to our garage/office to save $$…. our medical bills are out the yazoo … credit cards maxed out … savings and 401K gone….. still have a couple of kids at home, although working and out of school, they can’t get enough $$$ together to move out and survive monthly due to barely above minimum wage jobs … have 3 kids out of the house (all with partners) … one grandkid and we try to help all of them when possible.

We each work hard and still fall behind due to rising fuel and food costs and lack of income due to economy. My real job was outsourced to India about three years into the Bush administration and turned into a parttime/on-call job. Went from $37,000 to $7,000 per year.

We thankfully have a normal (small) house with a normal mortgage, and weren’t caught up in the crazy subprime loan mess. We bought just before that all started and never took a 2nd. Unfortunately due to the economy and self employment status, we can’t get one now to help with the bills.

It’s been a hell of a roller coaster ride the last few years, and for us, something has to give soon! I continue to pray Obama will be able to get everything back on track, or heading in the right direction. He at least gives me hope, unlike his gloom and doom counterparts.

I had one kid vote early today and one attended the rally in Richmond, so at the end of my day – I’m a proud, and hopeful mom!

Thanks AKM, Brian, Brenda and all the Mudpups for making my days brighter and more hopeful with your wit and wisdom.

22 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Brian aka Snooker Hinge Palin (19:20:27) :

Written by a diarist brave enough to attempt to analyze Sarah’s word-blizzard style of unteleprompted speech. Complete with a dumptruck filled with Palin words and a Palinese Word Salad.

Gave me a good laugh.
——————
OMG I think I got a migraine from that !!! First take out the multiple “ands,” the “there to’s” and “also” Might have to save it for rainy camping day when everyone is bored. lol

22 10 2008
Tired Mom (VA)

ira2 & knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin sounds like we’re all kinda goin through the same stuff. I too have three animal children who sense all the insanity and try to help get me through my bad days. A kitty, a pitty and a chinese crested.

22 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Think I can relate about the “being in the dumps” too
Not sure if its election overload, work overload, home “stuff” overload — pretty much burned out

However – on an up-note….
We only have 13 more days to go —
We are getting our votes in early —
We’re still here in MudFlats together —

And if we believe we are burned out & bummed out…..
just think what McC must be feeling — YES !!
😉

22 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

A comment from a reader on SP being HEAD of the Repub ticket in 2012

“”Somebody here once said that Palin’s problem is that she REALLY is ordinary. W. and Clinton have an everyman act, but we all know it’s an act. There’s no act with Palin. She really is trashy, and she really is clueless.””

Need to find some “cheer ups” tonight

22 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Hello — ???? everyone went to bed ????

I’m all alone in this big blog???

😦

22 10 2008
copybook realist

Enjay,,,there is a new thread

22 10 2008
gc

CHAOS…citizens hanging around Obama sign in Oregon…the site now has a password…what is up? TX

23 10 2008
Quetzalcoatl

Eyes Wide Open in Pittsburgh, PA (20:02:23) :
Birth Notice
Former prison inmate and one time Governor, Sarah McCain, age 50, has just given birth to her 7th child: Zamboni Maverick McCain. Father, John, is doing well after a short stay in the hospital…
++++++++++++++++++++
FTFY

23 10 2008
Quetzalcoatl

Am I bad?
I couldn’t resist.

23 10 2008
Shove Maggot "That One" Hussein aka the problem child

Karl Rove Playbook
page 21: If you have a candidate that is an unknown quantity, control all public appearances and communications. The rules about how or when the candidate can speak for themselves are currently being drafted and being gradually released for testing.

LOL

23 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Frankly, I can see Stevens being convicted and still winning.

23 10 2008
Edna

Yikes, there’s news that one juror is being violent, and the others are asking her to be kicked off the jury!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_go_co/stevens_trial




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