Busy day today. Hard to keep up with all the Governor’s antics!
For a great laugh, and a sad/funny look at Wasilla, including an interview with the current mayor (who has “actual responsibilities”), check out this clip from The Daily Show.
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Oh, dear AKM. The Mug-Shot Saloon and its inhabitants, no less 😉
Wasilla’s mayor was informative (?)…now we know what duties Palin really had in that role.
We understand that this was an intentionally dig/sad look at Wasilla to garner chuckles, and that its true beauty and diverse intellectual parts and individuals were left out.
You’ve painted a wonderful picture with words of this little Alaska town…I’m happy we’ve already seen delightful pictures also.
Good night AKM and Brian and Brenda and Mudpups…a busy day indeed. Thank you for all you do.
“nox”
And I’m getting up now.
Ugh.
Work.
Or Mudflats.
Work.
AND Mudflats.
🙂
I wonder if McCain will loan some of Cindy’s money to his own campaign.
“Do you think that being mayor of Wassila means you are qualified to be Vice President of the United States?”
“Absolutely!”
“How?”
“Umm…”
Oops… busted.
Firefighter’s Union flyer supporting Obama in WV
Click to access AFL08236_Union_10.21.pdf
Thanks Aussie Puck Mule Hussein
Sending that to my firefighter son
ds55 (02:01:48) :
I wonder why they didn’t loan any of Cindy’s wardrobe to Palin?
As far as the money goes, her entire fortune would still be too little to match the Obama monthly fund raising. It’s amazing how those small contributions total up. Of course, the Republican major donors think it’s un-American for the “lower classes” to wield that kind of clout, but they never stop to think that their huge own fortunes come from large numbers of average people buying everyday items for small amounts of money. The real economic power of the nation has always rested in the hands of average people. It’s taken the Internet to make everyone realize that.
McCain, Obama go rural in final fight for Virginia
In the past week, both campaigns hit full throttle in what McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer, in an MSNBC interview, called “real Virginia,” a comment viewed as a slap at the populous and affluent Washington, D.C., suburbs and a base of Democratic voting strength.
Obama was in Roanoke on Friday, his fourth visit to western or Southside Virginia since June.
Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert F. Kennedy, set aside Tuesday and Wednesday to campaign for the Democrat in southwestern Virginia.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jvu3G2gk69kQWmEB6WYOgw9m_a5QD93VD77O0
@Coloradonative living in NC Hussein (02:42:10) :
Thanks Aussie Puck Mule Hussein
Sending that to my firefighter son
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Firefighters are my heroes.
In today’s electoral map, South Dakota has now gone pink.
Today has apparently been a busy day for Sarah
There is an AP investigative report at Newsweek
[http://www.newsweek.com/id/165012]
She had the Vote/Donkey Scarf show up on Newsweek
[http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/10/21/
in-which-sarah-palin-displays-the-latest-in-donkey-fashion.aspx]
She had her wardrobe excesses ($150,000 in RNC public funds) reported on Huffington Post
[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/
palin-clothes-spending-ha_n_136740.html]
Her lack of vetting will be reported in Sunday’s NY Times Magazine
[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/21/
nyt-mag-lifts-curtain-on_n_136632.html]
Has anybody heard of any other events besides her CNN interview?
She’ll be meeting with Tim Petumenos, special investigator for the Personnel Board investigation, to give her deposition regarding Troopergate at an undisclosed location on Friday. AKM
Just watching a little bit of Morning Joe before work (7 AM here in NY). Mika is in charge, as Joe is off somehwhere (thank God – keep him wherever he is).
Anyway, first story at the top of the hour was an extensive debate about Sarah Palin’s clothes ! MSM is jumping all over this, and they also mention her kids travel expenses on the crawler, with more in-depth news to come on both issues.
Mike Barnicle said “America has a very sensitve hypocrisy meter” and this issue is going to resonate strongly (in a negative way) among Hockey Moms and Walmart Moms around the country.
Great to see this ( and to NOT have to listen to Joe constantly interrupt).
I have to tell you, that was the scariest video I’ve seen in quite a while — the Mayor of Wasilla gets paid $XX,XXX per year to have one staff meeting and spend probably 30 minutes signing checks? So much for executive experience, I do more than that running our household here in small-town New York City, where we’re working 50+ hours a week to make ends meet, deal with our local neighborhood shops on a “knows your name” basis, spend lots of time with our favorite community organization, actually pay for our fire/police/teachers, contribute more to NY State than we receive back, etc., etc.
I’m constantly stunned by the mis-appropriation of the 9/11 experience by practically EVERYONE who (a) wasn’t here; (b) thought NYC “got what it deserved” due to “godless whatever-ism”; and (c) wasn’t directly affected. Grow up, people, it was terrible, but it has morphed into a Rethug excuse for erosion of your Constitutional civil rights.
We’re volunteering at the Obama call bank (calling to PA voters this weekend), haven’t been this politically engaged since we were protesting the war in Vietnam (circa 1969). The ONLY thing one can thank SWWNBN for, talk about GOTV!!
G’Morning fellow muddies! So many happenings, so little time! Arggggh!
Dave, Jay, Keith Rachel- your writers are soooo overpaid right now, considering. Talk about having material handed to them on a silver platter!
AKM- What can I say? Another morning that sends me out the door with a permanent smile on my face. (and just to be sure that smile stays there, I’ll peek back to Brian/Brenda’s picture before I head into snarled traffic).
The scarf- maybe her designer glasses were fogged up (or mucked up) and she thought they were polar bears? lol
I saw a McCain hate ad this morning (and wondering why he’s wasting money in the blue state of NJ and Phila. area) about his Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac warning and their contributions to Obama. If it was so clear back then, why didn’t you cry wolf and muster up support? Dumba$$!
$150,000 worth of designer clothes= a nice chunk of donated goods for a tax write off, don’tcha think?
Have a beautiful day, muddies!
Couldn’t post on other thread so trying here.
Yeah! It works! And Yeah Ethel Kennedy! You go girl! and Yeah to those Firefighters!
What I wanted to yell about on the other thread was the idiocy of the working and middle class fools (if I dare) who cheer SP at her railings against Obama’s “socialism” – don’t they understand that all it will do is make people like Cindy McCain, Warren Buffet, Paris Hilton, Exxon Mobile pay more taxes so people like THEM can get a tax break and maybe more money for their kid’s school?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/opinion/20krugman.html?em
“Richard Nixon made a remarkable marketing discovery. By exploiting America’s divisions — divisions over Vietnam, divisions over cultural change and, above all, racial divisions — he was able to reinvent the Republican brand. The party of plutocrats was repackaged as the party of the “silent majority,” the regular guys — white guys, it went without saying — who didn’t like the social changes taking place.
And the great thing was that the new packaging didn’t require any change in the product’s actual contents — in fact, the G.O.P. was able to keep winning elections even as its actual policies became more pro-plutocrat, and less favorable to working Americans, than ever.”
And isn’t this exactly what Palin did as Gov – charging the oil co.s more so AK citizens could get a bigger check in the mail? Why aren’t the Dems talking about that?
Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund has a new ad, this one on Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin and polar bears. It follows the group’s earlier ad on Palin’s support of aerial wolf hunting.
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/10/21/201058/11
Are my posts too long?
Check out the latest Paul Krugman NYTimes editorial about how the Repubs since Nixon have taken advantage of the post-Vietnam and racial divides in the country to repackage themselves as “guys like you” – today’s Joe Six-Pack/Joe the Plumber, the white working class stiff here to protect all guys like us from those socialist Dems, all the while continuing their policies which were NOT in the best interest of the working class.
And isn’t this exactly what SP did as Gov – hiking taxes on big oil so she could spread the wealth around and send all AKs a big check? Where are the Dems on this one?
Yeah! It worked! Now I’ll mention poor Cindy – looks so creeped out everytime she has to share the stage with some scruffy old white-guy redneck wearing yet another flag shirt. Don’t rub up against her and dirty her $300,000 dress!
Guess it bothers SP less after all her hours hanging out with those guys at the Mug Shot, huh?
Jamie, it happens for no reason, it’s a random thing. I’ve had posts spammed that were tiny and had no links; it’s just the luck of the draw.
There are two leading stories on the NYTimes elite newspaper on line, one about the clothes and another about Palin’s role in the Bristol Bay fishing vs mining site with this juicy tidbit :
“The governor appointed mining industry officials to lead her Department of Natural Resources, which regulates mines. And her environmental commissioner is a former lawyer for Red Dog, which is Alaska’s largest mine and has a history of violations of the Clean Water Act.”
Wow! What else do we have to discover about her?
@Jamie, Floridian in France (03:37:09) :
Guess it bothers SP less after all her hours hanging out with those guys at the Mug Shot, huh?
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I read something today that claimed to be an email from someone’s friend who was an assistant to a fashion consultant hired by the RNC. She said Mrs Palin doesn’t wash her hands after going to the bathroom.
So the scruffy old white guys had better beware! 😀
Just wondering………..how were the clothes paid for ?? credit card..check…cash ?? Also NM has a discount store here in Austin called “Last Call “………it has stuff that did not sell in the over priced store……..we have a different name for NM here………”Needless Markup” …..show me a REAL hockey-mom that drops that kind of coin on clothes and I’ll kiss your GOP a$$…….and give you an hour to draw a crowd !!
That video is absolutely devastating. The current mayor actually drew several blanks when asked what it is she does all day. Sheesh.
***STRONG LANGUAGE WARNING***
But.
This. http://www.fuckjohnmccain.com/
AKM, Sorry about the F-bomb. not my fault, was in the URL
@austintx (03:43:58) :
I have a good friend in Austin who works at Old Navy – plenty of hockey moms there. 😉
You would think, wouldn’t you, that at least Mrs Palin would wear fancy American designer duds. also.
@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein – THAT is hysterical. Thanks for the tidbit.
Re : the clothes : I saw that the RNC monthly financial disclosure showed that they paid the whopping sum of $4,716.49 for hair and make-up for Palin in the month of September alone! Boy, that sure puts John Edwards $400 haircut to shame!
White Agate (03:44:59) :
That video is absolutely devastating. The current mayor actually drew several blanks when asked what it is she does all day. Sheesh.
Drew several blanks? Must be something in the Wasilla water (and the new mayor hasn’t enrolled in a *spewing nonsence when stumped 101* class).
@Stepper Choke (03:21:48) :
I’m constantly stunned by the mis-appropriation of the 9/11 experience by practically EVERYONE who (a) wasn’t here; (b) thought NYC “got what it deserved” due to “godless whatever-ism”; and (c) wasn’t directly affected. Grow up, people, it was terrible, but it has morphed into a Rethug excuse for erosion of your Constitutional civil rights.
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It goes beyond even that. I’ve had several hysterical emails from someone in the CA Bay Area who keeps shrieking about remembering 9/11 when you vote, yet she has never met anyone personally affected by it.
150,000.oo in clothing for 3 months. Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth Ave….My oh my Sarah what are the Joe six packs/Hockey Moms going to say about this one. I remember when Michelle Obama wore a dress on the view that was adorable from the black and white store. I can’t remember the price but I beleive it was under 150.00.
150,000 MY GOODNESS….Alaska what is going on with the woman who said she was a small town gal…what a joke.
Where are Sarah Palins Medical records? Why hasn’t the media covered this?
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (03:58:10) :
It goes beyond even that. I’ve had several hysterical emails from someone in the CA Bay Area who keeps shrieking about remembering 9/11 when you vote, yet she has never met anyone personally affected by it.
Aussie, hysterical emails have me bordering on …well…hysteria. I’m trying so hard not to become angry with friends who think they know better than me. I am not sure how to respond, so I don’t. The problem with this is that my lack of response must make them think that I’m okay with their junk mail. It is hard to take someone serious when their mail refers to Sen. Obama as Nobama or Osama. It’s hate mail, and it’s making me hateful. I have one friend of 30+ years that I’ve seriously considered adding to my spam mail and ending the friendship. I keep telling myself to wait it out, the election is almost over, and things will be fine. But I fear that with an Obama win, things will only get worse between us. We’ve yet to speak about this, but the emails are driving me away.
SophieVT :
You know what they say, “You are what you wear.” or maybe “clothes make the man”. According to the article I read, the RNC sees it as “Campaign Strategy”!
And anyway, Michelle always looks great and; more importantly, she could wear a plastic sack and still sound brilliant – and human!
Good morning good folks,
Hmmm, just tried to use the ‘Palin Baby Name Generator’ and was not able. 😦 Somethin’ funky goin’ on.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but thought you guys would find it as facinating as I did. What if the world could vote in our election….. http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com.
Enjoy
Stepper Choke (03:21:48) :
” the Mayor of Wasilla gets paid $XX,XXX per year to have one staff meeting and spend probably 30 minutes signing checks? ”
The salary at last word is $64,000 per year, but actually she does a bit more than just the two things (remember the video is from the Daily Show). They have regular city council meetings and civic activities (you know like snow machine race starts and stuff like that to attend to) and the usual citizen service (talking to people who drop by). All of the extra day work, like running the sports complex, maintaining water and sewers, etc, is the reason Sarah hired a full-time ($50,000 per year) manager to help out.
Morning mudpups..
There’s a rally in Leesburg and Richmond today for those VA folks who feel the need to rub shoulders with the man.
I’m tempted to blow off work this afternoon and make the trip to Leesburg. That rally starts at 5.. Gates open at 3.. Limited on site parking, but i guess they’ll have shuttle buses.
Anyone who’s interested, let me know.. we can be the Mudflats VA contingent. Write me directly if you want to go and we can carpool or meet there!:) (marty@marcomm.net)
Think we all should show our support.
All the talk about the hate spewing from the McCain/Palin side of things made me recall a most excellent comic strip from the genius that is Nicole Hollander (your peep, Chicago muddies)
In her “Sylvia” strips, one of the characters was an alien of the outer-space variety, to whom she tries to explain the general culture, etc. He notes that women wear both dresses and pants and that he sees that men only wear pants. He asks her, “what would happen if I wore a dress?”
She replies, “well, some people would invite you to parties…”
“And some people would try to beat you to death.”
I see some pretty clear parallels to the tone of the current campaigns and their styles–anybody in agreement?
VTJen
I just ran VTjen on the generator at [http://politsk.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah_13.html]
I came up with “Can Lightning Palin” It’s a random generator, so each time you use it you will get different results. I ran VTjen again and it came back “Recoil Mush Palin” Good luck with it.
Re The Daily Show Clip
I find it so telling that the mayor of Wasilla thinks she is qualified to be VP and yet cannot think of anything she does besides hold staff meetings and sign checks. The naivety is incredible. Another chip off the SP block.
The rest of The Daily Show on Monday was great too. He had a great segment on SP, Nancy Pfotenhauer (love the fun he has with her name) and Minn Rep Michele Bachmann
I often wonder about the future of America. After all of the stuff that’s come out about Caribou Barbi you’d think that the polls would be Obama 85%, McCain 15%. I guess that the people that actually investigate the candidates and their positions is actually very small. It seems that many people just vote for party only no matter who is running. I wonder if some of them even know who is running. My own brother wouldn’t vote Democrat if God was running on the Democratic ticket. He makes Attila The Hun look like a bleeding heart liberal. He thinks that McAged picking Caribou Barbi was a stoke of brilliance.
Ok folks!!! Things are looking up keep up the good work!!!!
Spread the Message and keep pushing forward until Nov 4th!!!
We will NOT let them steal this election this time!!
Bobg (05:05:19) :
I often wonder about the future of America. After all of the stuff that’s come out about Caribou Barbi you’d think that the polls would be Obama 85%, McCain 15%. I guess that the people that actually investigate the candidates and their positions is actually very small. It seems that many people just vote for party only no matter who is running. I wonder if some of them even know who is running. My own brother wouldn’t vote Democrat if God was running on the Democratic ticket. He makes Attila The Hun look like a bleeding heart liberal. He thinks that McAged picking Caribou Barbi was a stoke of brilliance.
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Well you have 27% of them who are reptards.
The rest are simply people in the middle who are easily fear mongered.
OH man this guy at work yesterday was talking about how we are going to be socialist and are headed to marxism. And how the Rich would have to pay taxes and wed all lose our jobs. ( I work at a hospital btw. )
I told him good its about time the Rich pay their fair share and that this whole concept of trickle down has been nothing more than a gaint sucking sound from the top.
Then I said anything is better than the last 8 years of “Stupidism”.
eajphd Molten Contra Palin: Thank you. It must be my computer. So I’ve decided to combine the two names you provided to be “Can Recoil Lightning Mush Palin.” Wooo Hooo!
@protus (05:11:03) :
“Stupidism”.
LOL….a new ‘ism’ …I love that…
A little BBC report from an Obama rally – brings a smile to my face every time I watch it!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7683490.stm
Here’s a story about the weekend Obama rally in Fayetteville (where all the tires were slashed)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95958561
I’m so happy I don’t live in the McCain fantasyland part of NC
A little BBC report from an Obama rally – brings a smile to my face every time I watch it!
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7683490.stm]
“Bobg (05:05:19) :
I often wonder about the future of America. After all of the stuff that’s come out about Caribou Barbi you’d think that the polls would be Obama 85%, McCain 15%. I guess that the people that actually investigate the candidates and their positions is actually very small. It seems that many people just vote for party only no matter who is running. I wonder if some of them even know who is running. My own brother wouldn’t vote Democrat if God was running on the Democratic ticket. He makes Attila The Hun look like a bleeding heart liberal. He thinks that McAged picking Caribou Barbi was a stoke of brilliance.”
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I told this story a few weeks ago and I’ll repeat it here because it is appropriate :
My lil’ bro’ is an engineer in Fla and works in an office with a total of 30 college-educated engineers. When GWB won the 2004 election, I called him and asked him if he truly believed that GWB won Florida (my bro, a Repub, voted GWB in 2000, NOT in 2004). He said yes. He said out of 30 educated engineers in his office, 3 voted Kerry, 27 voted Bush. When asked, he discovered that out of those 27, only 2 or 3 actually could talk about issues, economy, war, etc. The other 24/25 couldn’t. Never read a newspaper, never watched the news, didn’t even seem so concerned about current events. So when asked why they had voted GWB, they all had the same answer “because he is a Man of God”. And there is your explanation!
Well, well Sarah has one it again….she sure is “conservative” in her spending…
over 21,000.00 in travel for her children at the expense of tax payers…including 700.00 a night for accommodation…..Bring it on AP
over 150,000 for outfits from “SAKS” when ordinary folks cannot even afford to buy a pin from banana republic or even gap?….imagine what the bill would be like if she becomes VP?…I am really sorry for you Americans with the tabs she would run up…no wonder she has a problem with “sharing the wealth”…she wants all for herself….
I guess her real name is Sarah Grabin’
I think there are a lot of adolescent adult males who think Barbie is cute and that’s somehow more important than intelligence and intellect. Sadly, her moosecrap appeals to those who adore her.
They clearly don’t care that she’s spending $5,000 a day on clothes, and $200 a day on makeup. They don’t care that she spent money on taking her darling kiddies on official business and billed Alaska for it. They don’t care about anything she does. As long as she stands there and lies to their faces but does it nicely, they don’t care.
It’s just a pathetically stupid group of people who believe her bs. My ex-wife drank the koolaid and will vote mcfailin no matter what. I seriously think she’d vote for them if mcgrumpy shot and murdered someone today and she’d somehow manage to blame it on the dems.
The moron faction, who doesn’t read the news, watches Faux News and accepts their lies.. They won’t be swayed. Their candidate is perfect, no matter what they say or do.
@ eajphd Molten Contra Palin (04:45:07) :
You said: “The salary at last word is $64,000 per year, but actually she does a bit more than just the two things (remember the video is from the Daily Show). They have regular city council meetings and civic activities (you know like snow machine race starts and stuff like that to attend to) and the usual citizen service (talking to people who drop by). All of the extra day work, like running the sports complex, maintaining water and sewers, etc, is the reason Sarah hired a full-time ($50,000 per year) manager to help out.”
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Our town is bigger than Wasilla by about 2500 folks; has a fire dept., police dept, garbage dept, water dept, building inspection dept., and street dept; and has a full- time manager who costs us $60,000/yr. Our mayor gets $400/mo with city council members getting $300/mo. There simply cannot be enough to do in Wasilla with full time manager in charge that a mayor needs to do. I’m shocked that the citizens there put up with such a waste of tax dollars. I’m beyond insulted that Wasilla got all those millions of dollars in fed pork.
Knowing our mayor as well as I do, I gotta tell you, he’s a great mechanic but I wouldn’t want him as VP and he’s been a mayor doing more work for a lot less money than Scarah for at least 12 years now.
BTW – I will bet that Mayor Keller isn’t the only one that can sign checks. I figure that City Manager could do that as well and that eliminates Keller from that Thursday carpal tunnel inducing chore! Shoot I bet Wasilla could get a software program to print checks — sig template included — for under $1k so that would free up Mayor Keller on Thursdays!!
What are the citizens of Wasilla smoking if they continue to elect mayors for that kind of money with no experience to do a little bit of nothing??
Please!!! All Wasillians, enlighten me!!!
Another article in today’s NYT, which carries the news of the $150K on Palin’s appearance:
“Some Cut Back On Prescription Drugs In Sour Economy”
Anecdote:
“People are having to choose between gas, meals and medication,” said Dr. James King, the chairman of the American Academy of Family Physicians, a national professional group.
Statistic:
On Tuesday, the drug giant Pfizer, which makes Lipitor, the world’s top-selling prescription medicine, said United States sales of that drug were down 13 percent in the third quarter of this year.
I am looking for a tagline that will be a concise expression of the emotions this evokes in me, but I’m too busy looking for a second job to cover the cost of my own meds for a chronic condition, because without them I’ll be too sick to work at all.
P. S. I’ll take that donkey scarf!
There is a company called Autopen that makes templates for anything you want printed that looks hand written, because it’s a real pen writing on paper, only thing is it’s a machine, not a hand.
A signature is simple to do. Just have checks in a template.. turn it on and it signs them, perfectly everytime. No need for anyone at all, just secure the template after it’s done and you have no need for anyone to be on premises to sign checks.. it’s an old outdated process anyway..! Checks are dropping in usage every day!
SWWNBN= Curiouser and curiouser
Me= Furiouser and Furiouser!!!
Does this woman have no conscience? How does she put her head on the pillow at night and think she’s done ok today? And McSycophant supports her all the way, no matter what she says. I would say that man has to have lost all credibility by this time. Which is why I cannot understand how the polls are even remotely close at this point. Are the under-informed THAT racist? Don’t answer that…
I can see the future and it is filled with hope. And hope’s name is Obama.
Wasilla could do direct deposit for payroll. Would cost them a lot less money, time, and trouble.
anyone near a tv. go look at that sourpuss on cindy..
she looks so miserable next to the old mcgrumpy..
WV Democrat (05:25:46) :
Remember as long as she signs checks, she can also not sign checks – that point is important if you want to keep power and micromanage the budget. Put that together with the capacity to dismiss department heads at will and you’ve got a fair amount of control over the city.
WV, you have to wonder what Barbie’s done with her Wasilla Visa Debit card..
Mcgrumpy is ‘proud to have palin as his running mate’. ..
Oh god.. another mcgrumpy death grin.
and there it is.. joe the unlicensed plumber.. What i find funny is how mcgrumpy used him and then dumped him under the straight lie express bus.
The crowd must be small.. it’s really quiet..
“Can Recoil Lightning Mush Palin (VTJen)”
You’re welcome, and welcome to the whacky extended virtual Mudflats family.
Theory.. who thinks cindy will dump the old fart when he loses.. think she’s gonna wanna be with a loser??? you have to assume he has old man stinky breath, even viagra probably doesn’t work, and i can’t imagine she finds that moldy, cancer scarred face nice to look at.
her bid for being the 1st lady is done.. why stay married to perhaps the most famous loser ever.
Marty – my happy Obama thoughts will be there as I can’t make it to Leesburg or Richmond (both are a bit of a hike for us). Gotta get the kids from the bus and do those “hocky mom” sorts of things, ya know like cook em dinner and help em with their homework and stuff. 🙂 He was in Fredericksburg VA a few weeks back and drew a huge 26,000 crowd (that’s way big here!) It rained and he took his jacket off, rolled his sleeves up and kept right on talking with the crowd in the rain. Awesome!
@ eajphd Molten Contra Palin (05:45:53) :
You said: “Remember as long as she signs checks, she can also not sign checks – that point is important if you want to keep power and micromanage the budget. Put that together with the capacity to dismiss department heads at will and you’ve got a fair amount of control over the city.”
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I think Wasilla needs a new charter!! To heck with little despots with that kind of power!! That’s simply ridiculous!! It should be Council’s job with the Mayor serving as titular head in parliamentary procedure to approve budgets AND the power to hire and fire department heads. With a City Manager overseeing day to day operations, there simply is no reason for Wasilla or any town that size to need a full time salaried mayor. It’s ridiculous!!
Yes Virginia, there is lots of hope here!! Gave up my chance to go see Obama in Richmond this morning – decided to babysit for my youngest daughter so she could go see him. I figure its more important for my 19 year-old to see and be part of history in the making. Unlike SP she wont drag her 6-mo-old all over the place!!
@ Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken (05:48:16) :
You said: “WV, you have to wonder what Barbie’s done with her Wasilla Visa Debit card..”
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You know, I’ve wondered about that. I’ve heard about the Mayormobile and the office redecoration and thought that I’ll bet that there’s a lot the citizens of Wasilla don’t know that she used their money for. What ya wanna bet? Like the current Mayor would say squat if Scarah had misappropriated funds.
Wonder what they’d charge for their records? $15M like the State of Alaska?
When do we vote?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beth-broderick/when-do-we-vote_b_136703.html
Feel good, tear-welling story.
This may already have been posted. Mudpuppies have been very industrious overnight. It will take a while to get through all your posts.
Once again, great gratitude for yesterday. Starting with Brian and continuing throughout the day, I haven’t had so many belly laughs for a while. Sometimes, I had to take a few moments to get hold of myself before I could read some posts to spouse. It was really energizing. Ta.
AKM – I was wondering if you or others have looked at Palin’s record on disability issues as Governor. Here is a report I found: http://media-dis-n-dat.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-disability-community-should-fear.html. I have many friends with children with disabilities (especially DS, as my child has that). Many have accepted the pandering by the Repubs/McCain-Palin crowd that they are the party for families of people with disability. Except that if you look at the record of the two candidates that’s not true. I blogged about this: http://smallsteps-ellie.blogspot.com/, and here is the link to the comparison: http://www.olrs.ohio.gov/prescompare.htm. I wonder how things have changed, or not, since Trig’s birth. Is she better, same or worse?
SP, your theme song after Nov. 5, will be:
North, to Alaska
North, you’re rushin’ home
North, to Alaska
North, you’re rushin’ home
(with apologies who whoever wrote “North to Alaska”)
QUESTION;
Doesn’t Joe the unlicensed Plumber have to actually pay TAXES on the gift he received from the radio station to pay his taxes? And just WHO is going to make sure he uses that money for that purpose? He doesn’t seem like a stand up guy to me, and will probably just go spend it on oh…. say…. some 6-packs!
Tired Mom, well, you’re a good gramma.. Nothing wrong with that..
the leesburg location is only 30-40 min away, so my temptation is to get my work done early and head there.. I agree, i think it will be a history making thing and there is certainly a lot of excitement.
The past few election cycles were just bland. Kerry was about as exciting as a pumpkin. Gore was exciting as a Ghord. They really were those ‘lesser of two evil’ candidates.
This time, there is truely a clear choice and someone who stands on the stage and is compelling, inspiring and clearly presidential. Not in my lifetime, except JFK, when i was a little kid was the country excited over a candidate. Maybe Ronald Reagan generated that kind of excitement, and Bill Clinton was a strong candidate, but no one has inspired people like Obama. I picked him during the first speech I heard. He has something special and that is what makes him so excitement.
McCain can only win this by cheating I believe.. new polls have Grumpy so far down, all of failins problems, and the fact that mcgrumpy has no viable plan means he can’t win without gop cheating. They’re not against cheating, which in itself should disqualify them. Hire the Olympics and Omega to make sure it’s fair. hahaha
Although, votin for failin so she can get in there and muck it up with the senate since she’s in charge of the senate, so let her do it..!
I am continually amazed at the slackitude these Wasilla creatures have for the highest offices in the USA. They are like, … ah, I am a bagger at Walmart, therefore, I know, I am qualified to be Attorney General. Yea, I am on the Wasilla school board, I am qualified to be the United States Secretary of State.
Keep in mind folks, as Wasilla’s mayor, Sarah Palin was compelled to hire a city manager, to handle the tuff stuff, a Monday morning staff meeting, and signing 6 checks on Thursday’s.
Can you hear that staff meeting? “Well um guys um thought we might talk about the preposel we talked about last week about the new wastepaper baskets those things we here call trash cans (laughter) now last week we thought it might be best if we get 5, did we decide should we get 6 for the one by the photo copyyier too?”
The more I learn about Palin the more I believe she is indeed illiterate.
These tumbleweeds wouldn’t last 10 second’s on the Dan Ryan or Kennedy Expressway, they would be on the shoulder (flashers blinking), head in hands crying like babies, calling out “mommy”.
And that human computer from the AIP featured in this clip, wow another Wasilla nOOb. Drink up shriners!
I am looking forward to the repugs post-op, and how McDum Dum and the righties elevated the party to new levels of pukedome.
@ Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (06:02:11) :
Your said: “QUESTION;
Doesn’t Joe the unlicensed Plumber have to actually pay TAXES on the gift he received from the radio station to pay his taxes?”
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You must pay taxes on any gift over $600. When I worked in radio, if a listener (or whoever) won a prize worth $600 or more, they had to fill out tax papers. But the answer is YES, he will have to pay INCOME TAX on the money.
From drip to deluge. A plumber can’t help her, she needs an ark.
The link below is to the AP article about Palin charging for her kids’ travel to the tune of… well, the article states she’s charged $21,012 for airfare, and “in some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.” They don’t give a total for all charges!
If you read the article, the hotel rooms were not cheap, and I have to wonder if she didn’t charge for their meals as well.
The queen of “no hint of unethical activity” even amended the expense reports after reporters asked for the records. Doesn’t that indicate to you that PALIN KNEW THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH HER CHARGING TRAVEL FOR HER CHILDREN? Otherwise, why amend them?
Palin is pathetic.
Do you think Todd and she are kicking themselves everyday for accepting the VP bid? I think a lot of her problems would have surfaced eventually, but who knows? Perhaps not.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/21/ap-alaska-funded-palins-k_n_136719.html
Just cried over this ad….
Crusty, i was thinkin she can just get on that Ice Road Truckers show and she could be the crossing guard. That’s a job i think she could handle.
I think the only thing Barbie’s ever done was talked in circles that apparently the people in Alaska thought made sense. But, it appears the only intelligent AK people are on here. Sadly, there are a lot of uneducated people in AK and the entire country, and they find someone as dumb as they are, and somehow that translates into appeal they like.
It doesn’t matter what bad things she’s done. They’d do them as well. Who hasn’t used their work debit card to go to dinner with the wife and kids and didn’t claim it correctly? So, they did it, they don’t see a problem with Barbie doing it..
But, when barbie goes home, without her army of lawyers, she’ll be defending herself without all that help. McCain will change his phone # and she’ll be truly on her own.
She’s talking.. She’s critisizing Joey B.. It’s a true polititian who can complain about her competition when they’re woefully underqualified herself. And as a mother of a solder in iraq, her druggie son is probably already in the jail..
And we should all admire her $4000 outfit.. ! hahaha
From everything I’ve heard, SP used her positions as mayor and then Gov purely for personal profit from giving her friends lucrative jobs, getting a nice house built and buying that car, getting the clinic to stop performing abortions, building that hockey rink (for Track and Levi?) and a Walmart, all expense-paid vacations for her family, her personal family vendetta against her ex-brother-in-law, hiring that PR firm to promote her on a national level and I am sure that the list goes on and on.
This kind of person has no conscience, no soul. Just greed and ambition.
Well Sarah “I’m the advocate for the disabled” Palin has lied again. She is against a state sales tax in Colorado to provide funding to end the waitlist in Colorado for people with disabilities. This is a huge thing in the disability community as people with disabilities wait for years before they can receive funding for services. States don’t have extra money. Even in Alaska there was a waitlist (we were recommended to get our baby daughter on it right away so that hopefully by the time she was out of school she would have made it to the top of the list so she could get funding. Here is a link to the story in Colorado: http://www.9news.com/news/elections/article.aspx?storyid=102301&catid=139. I really don’t like her, and I totally feel sorry for that little baby. My dear daughter is now 3 1/2 yrs old and it’s amazing what she can do now, but that’s after years of early intervention therapy and a lot of work at home with everyone in our family. Poor Trig is just getting carted around on an airplane from speaking engagement, to shopping trip, etc. UGH! I better stop complaining now and go look at pictures of Brian – find my happy spot!
Soooo….Palin needed an Administrator to get all that business done in Wasilla?
Man, that workin’s hard!!
@SK
Thanks for my first laugh of the day!!
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken (06:18:43)
I was thinking since Roller Derby was regaining popularity, she’d be great on that. She’s got the look, is more than willing to get down and dirty and I believe she could actually stay on task. Maybe they’d even let her be VP!
rf11 said :
“Do you think Todd and she are kicking themselves everyday for accepting the VP bid?”
My first reaction was “Are you kidding?”, but maybe she realizes that if she hadn’t been dragged into the national eye and scrutinized, then her gravy train would still be going full steam ahead, living off of the State of Alaska. On the other hand, maybe she just thinks that if she plows ahead, then she’ll eventually be able to pillage the National Coffers (she’s already gettin’ way better free trips for her family and lots of great free clothes!).
Marty,
Is Obama going to be in Leesburg? Please let me know. I’ve been trying to see him but I never know where he is going to be beforehand.
Also for those of you in a battleground state who receives robo calls, you can opt out of those calls by going here: http://stoppoliticalcalls.org
You can sign up both your landlines and cell phones. Make sure people receive this.
No doubt this has been addressed fully before, but is it LEGAL in Alaska for Palin to charge travel for her kids?
I know distances in Alaska are vast with very few roads in comparison to other states. PerHAPS, it might have been wise, to keep that state plane. When it wasn’t ferrying prisoners to the Big House, then it could have zipped kids to swanky hotels.
Divatalk, Great info for swing states.
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM, ha! You’re right. Maybe the administrator ran the Monday staff meeting and Sarah signed the checks on Thursday? Doing both would have been overload, fersure, also.
Wouldn’t it be funny if, after their defeat on Nov. 4th, when Caribou Barbi asks for transportation back to Alaska McCain snaps at her, “Walk back loser.”
@Jamie
Bad karma has finally come to haunt the mean spirited Palin family. I bet there are alot of happy Alaskans today…..adding clothesgate to all the other gates. Think it’s payback time!!!!!
Mudflat shout-out to Chaylee Cole, who lost her part-time job last Friday after refusing to make telephone calls attacking Barack Obama.
Cole was working at the Weston offices of 1.2.1 Direct Response call center. She said. “We got a campaign ad talking about how Obama had been part of terrorist attacks on the Capitol, the Pentagon and a judge’s home and had ties with Bill Ayers.”
http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810210727
Ohio Sec’y of State is getting death threats. Typical. They are saying things like “Death to Obama Supporters”.
Oh,,, I just WISH i would meet up with one of these idjits…I carry a baseball bat in my car at all times and I know how to use it. Self defense, baby, self defense
A few comments:
The latest poll is in from Alaska and McCain is still +11 but that is down from the +15 in the last poll and +31 shortly after Palin was named VP candidate
I seem to remember that GWB had an approval rating of about 75% shortly after invading Iraq…..that # seem to go down after that.
Crust Scramble – SouthGA (06:25:35) :
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken (06:18:43)
I was thinking since Roller Derby was regaining popularity, she’d be great on that.
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LOL. You must be feeling frisky this mornin’.
“All of the extra day work, like running the sports complex, maintaining water and sewers, etc, is the reason Sarah hired a full-time ($50,000 per year) manager to help out.”
So does the current mayor not have that full-time manager any more?
Thanks.
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT (06:33:46) :
Ohio Sec’y of State is getting death threats. Typical. They are saying things like “Death to Obama Supporters”.
Oh,,, I just WISH i would meet up with one of these idjits…I carry a baseball bat in my car at all times and I know how to use it. Self defense, baby, self defense
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YIKES. Guess I will have to Pepper Spray the idjit.
@Jamie, Floridian in France, “My first reaction was “Are you kidding?”, but maybe she realizes that if she hadn’t been dragged into the national eye and scrutinized, then her gravy train would still be going full steam ahead, living off of the State of Alaska.”
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That was exactly the point of my question. Think about it. She had an approval rating in the 80’s, was charging per diem to stay in her own home, charging for her kid’s travel, and God only knows what else (housegate, etc.). Who knows if these issues would have arisen had she could have kept her blind ambition in check.
What kind of fool with her background would actually think she was qualified? Only a greedy, opportunistic, arrogant fool.
OK, Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT, I’d love to see your picture, but not a mugshot, please.
Sorry if this has been posted before but I thought it was interesting:
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2008/10/21/opinion/columnists/doc48f81169a23c6986272006.txt
I figured Cindy Lou was taking a bigger role in the campaign so that McCain would not move back to Arizona….apparently that’s the was it’s been & I bet that’s the way she wants it to continue. Why do all repub wives look like Stefford wives……bland, vacant, shallow, unhappy, & well dressed?
You know, I want to apologize if my using Palin phrases is somehow offensive to any of the WONDERFUL Alaskans here. Or anybody else. Palin’s just seem so affected. She is ripe for being made fun of because it is Over The Top. She wears it like a degree or certification of something important.
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca, I guess I am feelin’ kind of frisky. I’m just loving it that SP’s chickens are beginning to come home to roost. And I’m believing there’s much more to come. YES!
@Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca, “No doubt this has been addressed fully before, but is it LEGAL in Alaska for Palin to charge travel for her kids?”
I guess we’ll see. She amended those travel documents for a reason.
Must watch this clip from The Daily Show, I don’t know where he gets these clips.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189119&title=mccain-says-the-s-word
Keith O. had a comment I just watched (maybe already linked here) about the ongoing discussion about the VP duties…as Constitutionally defined and as defined by Palin.
She keeps mentioning that the VP is in charge of the Senate…Keith chides her about it but it’s obvious she really believes this and sees it as her future role. The numbers in the Senate are key to getting legislation passed, and I would imagine Palin would like to get ‘all Mavericky up in there’ (per Tina Fey) and make sure the appropriate legislation gets passed (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
As for the $150K, well, it was pretty obvious this has been a trip through the star factory for the Palin family. I am not surprised at all, and I am happy the RNC is getting called on it. The Obama campaign has a very strict ‘no gifts’ policy, by comparison. It’s all about image for the RNC, but I would argue that image by Gap versus image by Barney’s is just as good and much more appropriate given our current economic state of affairs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/21/keith-olbermann-campaign_n_136733.html
Nothing new under the sun, it’s just with blogs like this, we can call people on it.
I wonder how many Mudflaters have clicked on the http://www.election-poll.com site located at the bottom right of this website. Excellent coverage, very up-to-date and gives excellent coverage of the House and Senate races. This website is first class and should be checked out every day.
Divatalk..
He’s in Leesburg today at 5:30..
I’d love to get a group of mudpuppies for a rally and an after rally Needless Markup shopping spree..! Who’s up for it?
Maybe an after rally dinner meeting, although places may be packed..
Anyone who wants to go to the leesburg rally, let me know..
marty@marcomm.net
hope to get a nice group of mudpups.. i am thinking i will head out around 1:30-2:00.. lets go for it!
Marty
Also, check this out, Al Qaeda supposedly is endorsing McCain as the best candidate to continue the ruination of the US. Holy smokes! They aren’t shy, are they? The RNC has sent me 3 mailers to this effect, saying that they and only they can keep America safe. Yet here are the radical Islamists saying McCain is their candidate…yoikes!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/al-qaeda-supporters-endor_n_136779.html
Osama Bin Laden knows who he hates.. At least he must be a dem.
hahahaha
White Agate, watched KO’s great show last night. Chris Matthews really went after Pat Buchanan’s defense of Palin and her comments about the role of the VP.
On morning Joe, a viewer’s email suggested that perhaps the RNC should have saved some of that $150,000 they spent on clothing to teach Palin about the US Constitution.
@rf11
“What kind of fool with her background would actually think she was qualified? Only a greedy, opportunistic, arrogant fool.”
Exactly what I was trying to say. She is arrogant, ambitious (that PR firm again), opportunistic and greedy. My question is (and I guess that is yours too) : will what’s going on in AK stop her now? It appears that in the last few days she has been going off on her own, saying what she believes rather than what McCain thinks – can he really want her to say what she has been saying? I think that her blind ambition has made her blind – she most likely has her eye on that Senate seat and may very well think that she’ll get it. With 20 thousand people showing up at her rallies, does she thank that a handful of Alaskan legislators can hold her back?
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That’s almost surreal.
Hey rf11 – are you in Florida? Where?
When the election is over, SP is going to list all the clothing on E-Bay!
Is SP supposed to be giving an interview with Brian Williams today? What time are they broadcasting it?
I know this was posted on another post yesterday/last night, however this is soooo important to make sure everyone gets this. Go to http://www.stealbackyourvote.org
This is being put together by investigative reporter Greg Palast from Rollingston Magazine and Robert F Kennedy Jr on how the previous elections were stolen and how they are stealing the election now. Also what you can do to “steal it back”
Please take a look and ACT!
If the RNC says that the $150,000 in clothing was always meant to go to charity after the election — isn’t that saying that they don’t expect to win? Was Sarah going to go back to wearing her Alaskan duds – as vice president? Just askin’.
I was expecting her to be wearing it on her new Fox TV Show. Or, like someone said on here last night — Sarah just might be selling it all on Ebay.
On MSNBC — Palin more of a drag on McCain than George Bush.
They are talking all morning about the clothes, the kids’ travel expenses, the VP job explanation,the whole shebang. It is LAUGHINGSTOCK time.
This is a great link, Palin video in outline form. They have lots of great data on all the candidates and the election process.
http://dailysource.org/palinvideos
kidsquid (06:58:49) :
When the election is over, SP is going to list all the clothing on E-Bay!
Just goes to prove yet again that you really can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, right?
Spend $150,000 on window dressing, and the inner woman still comes through.
Can America afford this woman and the wars in the Middle East?
“Boston Globe – 1 hour ago
The John McCain-Sarah Palin campaign is striking back at a report about money spent on Palin’s appearance. Politico reported that the Republican National Committee spent $150000 to clothe and accessorize Palin since she was picked by McCain”
kidsquid (06:58:49) :
When the election is over, SP is going to list all the clothing on E-Bay!
Just goes to prove yet again that you really can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, right?
Spend $150,000 on window dressing, and the inner woman still comes through.
Can America afford this woman and the wars in the Middle East?
“Boston Globe – 1 hour ago
The John McCain-Sarah Palin campaign is striking back at a report about money spent on Palin’s appearance. Politico reported that the Republican National Committee spent $150000 to clothe and accessorize Palin since she was picked by McCain”
Jamie, I’m in South Florida. Where are you?
It will be interesting to see what happens to Palin. Maybe she’ll become a FOX News personality. On the other hand, she may be hooked on politics since it has been so lucrative for her.
With all the ethical and legal questions surrounding Palin’s actions, it’s unimaginable that she’s only been Governor for 20 months.
kidsquid (06:58:49) :
When the election is over, SP is going to list all the clothing on E-Bay!
Just goes to prove yet again that you really can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, right?
Spend $150,000 on window dressing, and the inner woman still comes through.
Can America afford this woman and the wars in the Middle East?
Good news Mudpeople!! A die hard Republican friend of mine sent a mass e-mail yesterday encouraging everyone to vote for…Bob Barr! Yay! Since Dems are more committed to Obama by a few % points (as a poll yesterday said) than Repubs are to McPalin, hopefully some of the Repubs who could never bring themselves to vote for Obama but can’t vote for SP will also vote for Barr and split the Repub vote!
It’s a way for them to let Obama get elected, then be able to say they didn’t vote for him! Fair enough.
Ralph Nader has screwed dems over plenty of times.. it’s nice that Mcgrumph has Bobo to steal some of his votes..
love it!
come in virginians.. who’s going to leesburg??
marty@marcomm.net
Seriously, now: “The entries also show a few purchases at Pacifier, a top notch baby store, and Steiniauf & Stroller Inc., suggesting $295 was spent to accommodate the littlest Palin to join the campaign trail.”
How can Palin possibly justify having the RNC pay for something for little Trig? How can she justify having Alaskans pay per diem for her to sleep in her own home? How can she justify charging Alaskans for her children’s travel expenses?This woman has no morals, values or ethics.
Please, keep her away from our tax dollars.
Marty,
I sent you an email. I need to know where you are as I will be
traveling via subway.
OK, the hand washing thing is just gross. I can send her some of that training soap they use, where you have to keep washing until the blue suds are all gone…
Ye gods.
So I just want to offer this quote (and I’ll probably do it again sometime):
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.”
Samuel Adams
This year, that irate, tireless minority is US (instead of the GOP dirty tricksters of past years)
Go Mudflatters! Keep up the good work.
Too funny.. the Dem talking head was laughing at the repug talking head when he was trying to validate her lack of knowledge about the VP’s duties..
hahahahahah
What is Palin thinking when she starts talking about that she wants a President who will be ready to lead on DAY 1? She can’t be that dimwitted.
Imagine the unthinkable horror of President Palin being tested.
David Shuster on MSNBC is trying to get a Repug spokesperson to admit that Palin is a drag on the McCain ticket. He won’t do it, in spite of the poll, which shows it. Go David!
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken, are you watching MSNBC?
diva.. i sent you an email.. give me a call.. there’s no metro to leesburg.. i can give you a ride if you want..
anyone else who wants to go and needs a ride from the vienna metro stop let me know.. will be glad to help.
i hope to leave by 1:30.. so let me know asap!
marty@marcomm.net
Sarah Palin’s $150,000 makeover: McCain campaign says just kidding, it’s all going to charity
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/sarah-palins-150000-makeover-m.html
* $49,425.74 from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York
* A $75,062.63 spree at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, site of the GOP convention
* $295 for a top of the line baby stroller for the governor’s infant
That’s more than the $125,000 that Alaska taxpayers pay the governor.
The full Politico report is here, including a trip down memory lane about some (vastly smaller) candidate expenditures that generated outrage, such as John Edwards’ $400 haircut.
I saw SWWNBN last night wearing a red leather jacket(very cute) but she certainly isn’t a nursing mother. Nooooooo!
Do you really think shes gonna give Trigs, new rig back????
Does anyone know about this clip on UTube that presents some guy in Phillie filing a lawsuit claiming that Obama is not a natural born citizen????? It is also on truthorfiction. com – search for Obama citizenship.
Does anyone have any idea of whether this could be possible? It is VERY worriesome to me . . .
Oh you guys have to go check out palinaspresident.com today. New one added.
rf11.. i only watch Fox news.. it’s fair and balanced, doncha know??? hahahaha
yea.. was laughin at Shuster creaming that dope..
he said ‘on this network, you can say it if you want..’..
was too funny..
VA PEOPLE.. LEESBURG RALLY.. 5:30.. im going.. lets meet .. if you need a ride from metro, let me know.
marty@marcomm.net
Could it be true Alaska is withen 11 points again. I wish Obama would go up there.
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ak_mccain_53_obama_42_ivanmoor.php
Grammy,
Don’t worry..Check out Snopes:As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The certificate shows his full name to be “Barack Hussein Obama II,” it lists his father’s race as “African” and his mother’s as “Caucasian,” it contains no information about religion, and it reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.
Grammy, the questions about Obama’s birth are more of the same from the Repugs. They are desperate to paint Obama as someone who’s mysterious, exotic, and not trustworthy, instead of the intelligent, honest, Christian family man that he is.
From Factcheck.org:
“FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”
Greedy and opportunistic….I know it was already said above, but I just can’t get my head around it! She pays for nothing! If I was a Republican, I’d be fuming. At least Alaska is off the hook for her maintenance for the time being. BTW, I’m from Arizona, and I haven’t seen any state polls dated after Sept. 30. I suspect the numbers have changed since then. Has anyone heard if Arizona is becoming a swing state yet?
150,000 to dress someone for 10 weeks. Boy that would support most families for 3 years. It looks like the Republicans need a lesson in how to spread the wealth around since they clearly have no clue what excess is.
@Blue Idaho, wow! I can’t believe Alaska is that close!
judi – thanks – I think one of the concerns raised by this guy in Phillie was that he (Obama) was adopted by an Indonesian, which changed his name and citizenship – apparently there were some kind of school records in Indonesia that gave him the adopted father’s last name?? Would that negate his natural born citizenship, though, even if it was true? The argument was that only Indonesian citizens were allowed to attend school there and thus, by using the adopted/step father’s name, he (or his parents) claimed he was a citizen there. It’s confusing to me but this guy in Phillie seems to be on a mission of some sort – I’ll check out snopes, thanks!!
Watching The View, why is it always the success stories that got it on looks, sensationalism, and very little brains that squeal the loudest against some poor kid getting a break for college costs?
Marty, I sent you an e-mail too — we’re planning to leave the Eastern Panhandle of WV around 2 PM. Let me know if there’s any place you can suggest for meeting up.
I’m soooo excited — to actually have a chance to see our next President in person!
rf11 – thanks!! The Phillie guy claimed to be a life long Dem so how much did the R’s pay him to file this lawsuit??
Saks Fifth Avenue- $49,425.74.
Neiman Marcus- $75,062.63 .
Hair and makeup- $4,716.49
Being able to “pal around” with Cindy McCain on the RNC dime- Priceless!
Lin Hussein, it looks like there’s going to be a poll conducted later this week:
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128600
It should be interesting.
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin (07:27:07) :
Does anyone know about this clip on UTube that presents some guy in Phillie filing a lawsuit claiming that Obama is not a natural born citizen????? It is also on truthorfiction. com – search for Obama citizenship.
Does anyone have any idea of whether this could be possible? It is VERY worriesome to me . . .
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This guy berg, started this when Hill was running…There is some idiot who is plastering this all over the web, and I’ve seen some astrologers asking about it. I can’t believe that his mother had him in Mombasa and flew back to Hawaii and got him somehow registered! To much intrigue for a 17 yr. old. Why? I think Berg started this to bring down Obama, against Hill, and now GOP seized on to it. FYI JM was born in the Panama canal zone!
I can’t believe if this was true….. BO would of ever considered running for Senate. Remember he is a lawyer also. He does know the law. I really don’t think this is true. I think its more mud in the water…..These people will say/do anything to get what they want. And anyone can sue anyone for anything! So any idiot can go to court and try to sue someone. If this had truth…do you think Hillary would be backing him? She would know, right, this guy was a Hill supporter. Smoke-n-mirrors!!!
@rf11 –
I grew up on the Space Coast – remember “I Dream of Jeannie” and Cocoa Beach? From there, but I have lived in Europe (and voted in Brevard County by absentee ballot) for 21 years.
@caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin
Re : SP not nursing. No, but have you seen those knockers on Bristol? I know she’s preggers, but, jeez, maybe she was nursing before, if you catch my drift.
Watched Larry King Live this morning (you guys had it last night) and so many of his Repugs basically said that the election is lost for their pair! Was it David Frum who said that some of the Repug money should be going to get as many Repug senators elected as possible because there was very little chance that there would be a Repug in the White House? Yippee!
Saw the below comment on Wonkette about Sarah’s new clothes. I am now officially too tired to laugh more…
“But ultimately, what the shopping spree does is help those who are concerned about the wardrobe reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—oh, it’s got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So, wardrobe reform and reducing eyebrow hair and reining in split ends has got to accompany fat reductions and bikini waxes for Americans. And lipstick tattoos, we have—we’ve got to see lipstick tattoos as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the fake lipstick sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This shopping spree is a part of that.”
caligirl – here is a good place to get the story:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obamas_birth_certificate_been_disclosed.html
Thanks to all who responded and gave me links!
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin (07:27:07) :
It’s absolutely false and has been demonstrated repeatedly to be false. Obama’s web site has posted a copy of his birth certificate from Hawaii that shows both his parents were U.S. citizens. Part of all this hoopla may be to deflect questions regarding McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/
article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224_pf.html]
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin (07:36:23) :
“judi – thanks – I think one of the concerns raised by this guy in Phillie was that he (Obama) was adopted by an Indonesian, which changed his name and citizenship – apparently there were some kind of school records in Indonesia that gave him the adopted father’s last name?? Would that negate his natural born citizenship, though, even if it was true? ”
My kids were both born in France – to me, an American mother and to a French father. They have his last name. I registered their births at the consulate in Paris and I received a birth certificate for each. They have 2 nationalities, 2 passports. They are as American as any American and both would qualify as President of the United States. So no matter what happened in Indonesia, unless he voluntarily gave up his American citizenship, he is American.
Good morning
Read that Sarah is doing an interview with Brian Williams, NBC, Wed and Thurs next week. ALSO Barack rumored to be appearing on SNL Nov 1. He did a taping with Ellen yesterday. How I wish someone from the campaign would do a sweep through North Dakota, Montana and Alaska. If Barack can’t do it, it would be a hoot to have Joe and Jill and Michele
blutxan (06:46:20) :
Must watch this clip from The Daily Show, I don’t know where he gets these clips.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189119&title=mccain-says-the-s-word
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bluxtan GOOD FIND!
A clip in your post above was just mentioned on MSNBC.
Within the Stewart humor of this piece is a segment (at 2:13) in the footage from Harball at Michigan State University, 10/12/2000, a student asks why father has to pay higher taxes because he is a doctor? At that point John McCain states, “We feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more” student responds “Aren’t we getting closer and closer to socialism? “I really believe when you reach a certain level of comfort, there is nothing wrong with paying somewhat more”.
Watch for this tape coming out soon debunking McDumDums socialist and “higher taxes on the rich is bad” alligation against Barack. I just e-mailed the link to their office here in chi…
Thanks bluxtan for bringing that to Mudflatters attention.
Palin is definitely a case of “you can’t go home again.” Life, for Palin in Alaskan politics, will never be the same.
a little off topic— i posted this late on the last thread. it’s worth a re-post: hHh
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Here’s the latest in my inbox from El Tinklenberg, Michele Bachmann’s opponent:
Even as Congresswoman Michele Bachmann tries to backpedal from her outrageous comments Friday, comments which have inspired more than a million dollars for our campaign in the last four days alone, people across the country are just beginning to learn the truth about Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s long history of extreme and divisive views:
At a debate with El Tinklenberg earlier this month, she claimed immigrants are “bringing in disease and violence and every sort of difficulty” to this country.
In September 2008, Bachmann blamed the financial crisis on a federal program that awarded home mortgage loans “on the basis of race and often on little else.”
In February 2007, Bachmann told a newspaper that Iran had an agreement to take over half of Iraq, that a name had been chosen for that part of the region and that it would be used as a training ground for terrorists.
In March 2004, Bachmann said on the radio that failure to pass her Defense of Marriage Amendment in the Minnesota Senate would cause the gay community to start “specifically targeting our children.”
In a March, 2008 meeting she said “The big thing we are working on now is the global warming hoax. It’s all voodoo, nonsense, hokum, a hoax,”
The good news is the enormous fundraising disadvantage Tinklenberg had been facing is nearly erased. If you want to continue to boost this good man’s campaign against a woman more wicked than the Witches of the East and West combined, you can do so on his act blue page, here:
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660/275976
or at his own website:
http://www.Tinklenberg08.com
and don’t forget to visit this great blog:
http://www.dumpbachmann.blogspot.com
and cast your vote for censure
http://www.censurebachmann.com
keep on keepin’ on, pups!
hose Hussein hotrod
A question for all you Mudpuppies… we here on the Eastern Shore of VA have had a BIG problem with “someone” stealing our Obama signs – not just the little ones out of our yards, but even the big 4x8s out on the highways. No one is taking the McPain signs… what does that tell ya????
Have other areas had this problem, too?
I want to repost the link to the Michelle Obama rally that Mrs Meat and I attended yesterday in Pensacola. We were there with 7,000 good friends.
http://www.nbc15online.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=258094@video.wpmi.com&navCatId=5926&articleID=258094
If you have not heard Mrs Obama speak, you should watch the video. She is a lovely woman, very down to earth and very inspiring. There was no hate at this rally, just lots of positive energy and smiling faces. Before she left town, Mrs Obama took the time to meet privately with some military families and with the 100 or so who could not get into the rally.
Mrs Obama is receiving some negative press here about her outfit. It was not fancy, but her outfit is not her message. Mrs Meat commented that Michelle’s shoes can be found at PayLess Shoes.
@rf11
Thanks for the EV Tribune heads up. I’ll be looking for the poll results next week.
has the new open thread on the stevens’ trial disappeared for anyone else?
Whoa! Where in the heck did this woman Michelle Bachmann come from? I have seen her several times on Larry King with her Stepford wife toothy grin and spewing lies, but how did someone with those ideas become a Congresswoman? Has no one ever called her on this stuff before?
This whole week reminded me of a Time magazine story from last year, just before Poland’s parliamentary elections. In which the then ruling Law And Justice party (their initials in Polish are PiS – I kid you not) lost its majority. A Polish cartoonist was lamenting that the country faced a critical shortage of humorists … “the Kaczynskis are giving us too much material. We can’t keep up.” 😉
blutxan (06:46:20) :
bluxtan GOOD FIND!
A clip in your post above was just mentioned on MSNBC.
Within the Stewart humor of this piece is a segment (at 2:13) in the footage from Harball at Michigan State University, 10/12/2000, a student asks why father has to pay higher taxes because he is a doctor? At that point John McCain states, “We feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more” student responds “Aren’t we getting closer and closer to socialism? “I really believe when you reach a certain level of comfort, there is nothing wrong with paying somewhat more”.
Watch for this tape coming out soon debunking McDumDums socialist and “higher taxes on the rich is bad” alligation against Barack. I just e-mailed the link to their office here in chi…
Thanks for bringing that to Mudflatters attention.
Here we go again, spam filter eating my posts…
blutxan (06:46:20) :
Must watch this clip from The Daily Show, I don’t know where he gets these clips.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189119&title=mccain-says-the-s-word
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bluxtan GOOD FIND!
A clip in your post above was just mentioned on MSNBC.
Within the Stewart humor of this piece is a segment (at 2:13) in the footage from Harball at Michigan State University, 10/12/2000, a student asks why father has to pay higher taxes because he is a doctor? At that point John McCain states, “We feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more” student responds “Aren’t we getting closer and closer to socialism? “I really believe when you reach a certain level of comfort, there is nothing wrong with paying somewhat more”.
Watch for this tape coming out soon debunking McDumDums socialist and “higher taxes on the rich is bad” alligation against Barack. I just e-mailed the link to their office here in chi…
Thanks for bringing that to Mudflatters attention.
Oh, by the way, friends, this mudpup put his money where his mouth is, from all the way out in Korea. Sent in my absentee ballot on Monday, and YouTubed a nice little demo of it for your (dubious) viewing pleasure. (Okay, it’s pretty lame as vids go, and I look terrible on camera, but what the hey …)
Enjoy: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xbtV46oZVpw
blutxan (06:46:20) :
bluxtan GOOD FIND!
A clip in your post above was just mentioned on MSNBC.
In that clip John McCain states, “We feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more” student responds “Aren’t we getting closer and closer to socialism? “I really believe when you reach a certain level of comfort, there is nothing wrong with paying somewhat more”.
Thanks for bringing that to Mudflatters attention. I sent it over to Obama hq here in Chi…
derek Hussein–“the Kaczynskis are giving us too much material. We can’t keep up.” 😉
I think that’s the best thing that can happen right now. I hope we can keep the attention on Palin’s seemingly endless supply of unethical behavior…at least ’til Barack get’s back from his visit to his grandmother. The more days we can eat up with this stuff the better for our team. And it’s not like we have to make it up. In fact…most of this stuff you can’t make up.
hHh
True speakers of Palinese must be ready and willing to insert the phrase “and also to” into run-on sentences with ridiculous frequency.
I’ll admit to a morbid curiosity that has me running to the television whenever bible Barbie agrees to an interview. Here in Florida, we’re excited as ever, but also nervous. Voter suppression scares me, particularly because the “exact match” rule can snag even the registration savvy. Something as small as whether or not a middle initial appears on a license can foul things up.
I took my two daughters to see/hear Obama in early September in Jacksonville. The thrill was very real and palpable then, when he was behind McCain in the polls, but now, whenever I see his rallies on t.v., I can’t help but get that thrill all over again. There’s something very studied and logical about the way he’s run his campaign. I can’t help but think that if he applies the same measured and thoughtful study to our country’s problems, then there truly is hope.
I am appalled and amazed at the audacity of the repugs!!!
At every turn I see something that shouts at me …
” WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT AND REFUSE WHAT WE DON’T WANT! DON’T YOU DARE HAVE THE GALL TO QUESTION ME ON IT!!”
This type of behavior reeks of lies and secrets and numerous skeletons.
If the dem’s were to behave this way, they would be tarred and feathered…
How is it that the citizens of this country not ignores it, but APPROVES it???
I am sickened by the hate and lies and it gets worse every day…..
The rest of the world watches and laughs ………………
austintx (03:43:58) :
Just wondering………..how were the clothes paid for ?? credit card..check…cash ?? Also NM has a discount store here in Austin called “Last Call “………it has stuff that did not sell in the over priced store……..we have a different name for NM here………”Needless Markup” …..show me a REAL hockey-mom that drops that kind of coin on clothes and I’ll kiss your GOP a$$…….and give you an hour to draw a crowd !!
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Palin’s clothes are reportedly paid by RNC.
Seems like they could have had a GOP Garage Sale featuring Cindy McCain’s Nomination Night Duds and paid for it—$300,000 was Cindy’s pricetag.
Yep. Ordinary Janes.
SIGNIFICANT FIND BY bluxtan above at (06;46;20)
On tape John McCain states, “We feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more” student responds “Aren’t we getting closer and closer to socialism? “I really believe when you reach a certain level of comfort, there is nothing wrong with paying somewhat more”.
McDumDums socialist and “higher taxes on the rich is bad” alligation against Barack. I just e-mailed the link to their office here in chi…
derek hussein rock crane palin,
Great video. And your instructions apply to all absentee ballots, not just those from overseas. Thanks for your valuable imput.
John McCain in NH just now: “He talks about our economy in a detached and academic way”.
Repugs: Academic, BAD…….Joe Sixpack, Good.
Give me strength…..
Derek Hussein— oh my gosh. what a sweet video! and i think you’re adorable!!
big hugs across the miles!!
hose Hussein hotrod
Damn it, 5 hours no post, I am giving up for now, this is too frustrating. Short posts, long posts, w/links, w/o links, this tread, that thread…
nothing, bloody waste of my time…. now watch
This will post
figures…
Meat,
I can’t get video on my stupid old dial up so I can’t watch the video also haven’t seen a local paper today. What do you mean she is getting neg. press for her outfit? I mean was she in sweats, otherwise what does outfit have to do with anything. I realize you are a man (reference to Mrs. Meat) but how bad could it have been to receive mention?
Jamie, Floridian in France (08:04:26) :
Whoa! Where in the heck did this woman Michelle Bachmann come from?
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First term Representative from a very conservative Wisconsin district. Bachmann employs THREE full time PR people. Like Palin, she has been courting media and promoting herself. Goes to every show that will have her. Bachmann wanted to be Big Time. Like Palin, plenty of Ambition, but limited Substance.
Bachmann is on exactly one committee in the House. Wonder what her Time Ratio for the business of the people of her district versus Time Promoting Herself?
Wonder if Alaskans have been wondering about that?
Here’s a article I know Mudpuppies will love:
Cable News Phenom Maddow Doubles Her Audience in a Matter of Days
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/103952/
Go Rachel !!! 😀
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago (08:19:21) :
………….nothing, bloody waste of my time…. now watch
This will post
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LOL, Isn’t that always the way it works out?
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein (07:36:48) :
Marty, I sent you an e-mail too — we’re planning to leave the Eastern Panhandle of WV around 2 PM. Let me know if there’s any place you can suggest for meeting up.
I’m soooo excited — to actually have a chance to see our next President in person!
i never got your email. I think you need to leave earlier to get in.. it may be really packed!
I’ll be at there.. i think someone else is going from WVA..
i know common logic says not to post phone #’s but wer’e all family here.. so if you’re coming to the leesburg rally, just call my cell.. i’m trying to get work done before leaving so i may nto see mail..!
703 587 3600
Hope to see a bunch of mudpups there! Call me! i have room for a a few more if you are coming via metro.
outta here soon! GO OBAMA!
marty
Two young women from Alaska give the low down on Palin, the secret of her “popularity” as governor and how she destroyed the city she was mayor of. Click on the link below…
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/446.html
Sorry, as much as I hate to be associated, ms. Bachmann is NOT from Wisconsin. She’s from the 6th congressional district in Minnesota (very, very conservative…or at least it used to be…heh, heh, heh).
hHh
Husky,
As a fellow Floridian I say vote early, that seems to be some sort of small safeguard against someone jerking you around on election day when it is too late to fix. Obama’s website is very clear in their advice to vote early. I mention this because I too have been freaking about voter purge and suppression, I remember 2000 really well.
@derek hussein rock crane palin (08:08:17) :
I watched your video and loved it it was very cute and you looked great on video! I also vote absentee from France, but you got a very cool Voter’s Pamphlet and we didn’t! Lucky you!
And was I shocked when I saw on my Florida ballot that they were asking us to vote for a MARRIAGE PROTECTION Amendment! Protection? Protection from what? Shocking! I could put together a list of all the straight people I know that shouldn’t have gotten married…
A shout out to all you Floridians! There seem to be a lot of us here today. Anybody from the Space Coast?
Kat Loves Wolves,
The local haters have been out in force on the website for our local mullet wrapper, ragging her pretty badly for her outfit. I thought she looked fine, grey skirt with a white blouse and a grey lightweight sweater – it was a little cool yesterday. The shoes were multicolored flats. No bling, I noticed only a wedding ring, a bracelet and a watch. We were behind the stage, so I might have missed something.
derek hussein rock crane palin (08:08:17) :
Oh, by the way, friends, this mudpup put his money where his mouth is, from all the way out in Korea. Sent in my absentee ballot on Monday, and YouTubed a nice little demo of it
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HUrray for Rock Crane Palin!!! Went and voted. AND showed others how. Way to go Derek Hussein.
upnorth minnesota hose Hussein hotrod
I am SOOOO sorry. Mind fart. No coffee yet.
@ Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken (05:50:57) ://
Theory.. who thinks cindy will dump the old fart when he loses.. think she’s gonna wanna be with a loser??? you have to assume he has old man stinky breath, even viagra probably doesn’t work, and i can’t imagine she finds that moldy, cancer scarred face nice to look at. her bid for being the 1st lady is done.. why stay married to perhaps the most famous loser ever.//
Cindy will stay with McCain and insult him every chance she gets. My guess is McCain calls her names and references her drug abuse when he’s angry. Her response can now be “Loser!”.
Mudpuppies,
Take a look at the new NYT special article:
“Palin’s hand seen in battle over mine in Alaska”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/us/politics/22mining.html
Buried on the second page is a fascinating mention of the public safety commissioner:
“Native officials, who could eventually vote on critical aspects of the mine, were benefiting from the project, Mr. Ramras added.
A deputy attorney general replied that he could not investigate “rumor or innuendo” and requested details, saying he would have the public safety commissioner evaluate the accusations.
Mr. Ramras obliged, but the information was never passed on. The governor’s spokeswoman, Sharon Leighow, said the deputy “looked at the information, saw there was no criminal activity and that’s where it stopped.”
So, a year ago, if Monegan was seen by the governor as not completely on board with her agenda, COULD HE HAVE BEEN SEEN AS A POSSIBLE THREAT to her game plan with Pebble Mine officials.
Pebble Mine was/is throwing money all over anyone who could aid in their salmon fishery threatening super big open pit mine and toxic waste generating project. Since when have we seen Palin not go for a chance to use her position of public trust to grab money?
This article is just a gold mine!!
Meat,
Oh, I don’t know what I thought you were going to say, wragged cut offs or something. No bling, a grey skirt and sweater, how modest and appropriate for a day time event in a horrible economy. Honestly, these people are insane. By the way what is a mullet wrapper? I know what a mullet is.
Jamie, my parents worked for NASA in Huntsville, Alabama when I was young, then in high school, we moved to Titusville. In the early nineties, I lived at New Smyrna beach – at the beautiful Bethune Beach down near Canaveral National Seashore.
We’re down south now. I have high hopes for Florida this time around. 2000 and 2004 are way too painful to think about.
Hi Jamie,
Lucky, lucky you in France. Paris is my favorite city in the whole world, where are you? I am stuck here in the Florida Panhandle (Destin) until I can sell my house, which has been on the market for 19 months.
@ Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken (05:50:57) ://
Theory.. who thinks cindy will dump the old fart when he loses.. think she’s gonna wanna be with a loser???
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For all practical purposes, she’s already dumped him (or vice versa). They don’t live together now. She loves her “little” get away on the Pacific Ocean; he loves his ranch.
Kat Loves Wolves,
Sorry, mullet wrapper is our affectionate little pet name for our local newspaper. Often, wrapping mullet is the best use for it.
Speaking clearly to the stark difference between O and McPalin in the actual connection to the Middle Class concerns is the disparity between costs for Michelle’s and Cindy’s Nomination outfits—$1500 to $300,000.
http://womensfashion.suite101.com/article.cfm/michelle_obama_cindy_mccains_fashion_feud
LOL Meat, that is perfect. Which local mullet wrapper are you referring to, the NW Florida Daily News or a local Pensacola paper?
New New York Times article on Sarah Palin and Pebble Mine proposed open pit gold and copper mine mentions public safety commisioner on page two.
Another reason for Monegan’s firing? Could she have wanted a public safety commisioner she could control for purposed of bending things Pebble’s way?
Kat Loves Wolves,
It’s the Pensacola News Journal. We have two small independent publications here, both are weeklies, both feature more in depth local coverage than the PNJ.
Kittitians for Obama
EXCELLENT clip of two young girls who say it all and say it well, thanks for sharing that – if only every woman was as bright as they are!!
Here’s the link to the NYT article-fascinating read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/us/politics/22mining.html
Safety commisioner mention is buried on page two.
I just found an interesting article in Seattlepi.com, written by an Alaskan fisherman.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/383843_alaska19.html
See 2:13 on this video. John McCain, from Harball, 10/12/2000
McCain; “Higher taxes for wealthy OK”, Not socialism!!!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189119&title=mccain-says-the-s-word
I just sent this to Barack Obama’s office here in chi…
Dang! Mason-Dixon has McCain up by 1 in Florida in their poll today. Come on, Floridians!
The RNC just transferred $3 mil to Virginia to try to help McCain win the election. I don’t see a path to the White House for McCain. Do you? Check out the electoral map at Real Clear:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
Off topic apologies, but I feel a need to get this off my chest.
I’ve lost some respect for Bill Clinton recently, but he could regain a lot of Brownie points with me if, while Obama is tending to his grandmother, Bill were to get out there, pick up the slack and work some of his old magic. He still IMHO is the best at taking complicated issues and making them both straightforward and compelling.
This is my hope for today.
I agree with you, Forty Watt. I was definitely a Clinton fan until the South Carolina primary. I would love to see him “rehabilitate” himself!
>Forty Watt Hussein (08:52:06) :
Off topic apologies, but I feel a need to get this off my chest.
I’ve lost some respect for Bill Clinton recently, but he could regain a lot of Brownie points with me <
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Saw him on Letterman last night, where he talked a lot about the financial straits this country is in. Also, gave good support to Obama and Biden. It was nice to see him in this more intimate setting and I gotta say, he impressed me.
Hey Mudpuppies, saw some “that one” Tee’s on cafe press, thought I’d share…LOL!
(I don’t sell anything there)
http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/that-one_womens-clothing?topic=10826
Ugh! Just saw the ones for SWWNBN! Team palin, Homegirl {rolls eyes} how ’bout “lipstick on a B*tch” 😀
@ derek hussein rock crane palin (08:08:17) :
Wow – that was great. I’m so jealous of you lot being able to vote!
Anyway, to keep you all smiling – Palin ear glue (or something…)
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7683689.stm]
Lin Hussein (07:35:07) :
I’m from Arizona, and I haven’t seen any state polls dated after Sept. 30. I suspect the numbers have changed since then. Has anyone heard if Arizona is becoming a swing state yet?
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Lin H, On http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ midway down on the left side are the states. AZ averaged is +12.9% for McPalin.
rf11 – you are toooo good, the article in the P.I. was excellent – especially the last paragraph.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/383843_alaska19.html
Okay. Right side of fivethirtyeight.com is where state polls are give. Jeez. Next I’ll be doing the JM left eye twitch. Coffee. Gotta get some stat.
derek hussein rock crane palin (08:08:17)
Thanks for the video…your demo will be an inspiration to vote for others abroad.
Love the idea of Joe, Jill and Michelle coming up to AK, and going to ND and MT, too. So close, am really getting excited that so many are ‘getting it’ ~ voted on Monday, and am encouraging all I know to do the same. Just heard that Dems are coming out in droves to Early Vote, where traditionally it has been the desperate ones [R]s. Sen. Obama looks tired in the eyes/jet-lagged this morning; hope he can get some rest soon.
There’s a great photo of Obama on the phone with his feet up and you can see holes in both shoe soles. He reports that he’s had them re-soled once since the primaries began.
Hard work, frugality, etc. etc. Yeah, the Repubs are absolutely correct when they say “He’s not like us.” And I for one am SO glad.
@ Crust Scramble – SouthGA (08:59:23) :
Saw [Bill Clinton] on Letterman last night, where he talked a lot about the financial straits this country is in. Also, gave good support to Obama and Biden. It was nice to see him in this more intimate setting and I gotta say, he impressed me.
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Glad to hear it. Now keep going, Bill, and reach an even wider audience. This is about both your legacy and your country.
@ WV Democrat (07:44:28) : on Wonkette:
“But ultimately, what the shopping spree does is help those who are concerned about the wardrobe reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—oh, it’s got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So, wardrobe reform and reducing eyebrow hair and reining in split ends has got to accompany fat reductions and bikini waxes for Americans. And lipstick tattoos, we have—we’ve got to see lipstick tattoos as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the fake lipstick sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This shopping spree is a part of that.”
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FOTFLMAO!!! (tears!)
Anyone know how PA stands? McCain and Bimbo are here this week. Congressman Murtha is in the news here saying that Western PA is redneck and rascist – all of the rednecks and rascists are up in arms about it – sadly it is the truth – within a week of my moving here in 1998, there was a KKK rally on the courthouse steps – scared me to death! Anyway, I hope Obama can take PA, I will feel so much better . . . .
rfl1,
I just studied Real Clear (thanks for the link) and the only way I can see that McCain can win is if he get ALL of his solidly reds, plus leaning reds, plus toss ups plus either Va or Co and NM which are leaning blue. According to this map Obama only needs Va. or Co. and NM to put him over 270. So I guess McCain could win given this maps scenario but it sure looks like it would be very hard and hopefully unlikely. That actually just made me feel better, I get positively demented when I see little poll shifts.
Not sure if this has been posted yet
CNN reports Obama with 277 (Safe & Leaning)
McCain with 174 (Safe & Leaning)
Toss Up 87
That means (At this point) McC has to pull off all Toss Ups plus another 9 electoral votes
Go-Bama/Biden ( I voted Monday !! )
Great article, rf11! The reader comments are good, too. I like this one:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=383843
“Each resident – man, woman and child – received $3000 from the state government this year. That means the Palin family got a check for $21,000 simply for living in Alaska. If that’s not income and wealth redistribution, I don’t know what is!“
Hey mudpups..
I’m off to Leesburg VA.. Watch for me.. I’ll be the dem in the crowd..! 🙂
Talk to you all later..!
MizKay,
That was inspired!
Thanks to everyone who responded to me about the campaign donations. I can always rely on my fellow Mudflatters to provide accurate information.
Sorry for the delay. I’m out of town at a conference and just got internet service today. I have LOTS of catching up to do!
Hi Granny,
You are too good, too! PA is looking good. Check out real clear:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_mccain_vs_obama-244.html#polls
Obama has had a clear lead in PA since, at least, April. I have no idea why McCain is still spending money there. Desperate, I guess.
Grammy aka CCP–I think the last thing i saw on daily kos for PA had Obama up by 12. If a state that’s 12 up is McCain’s last best hope, you’ve got to be scratching your head.
hHh
Oh whoops, WV Democrat, that was inspired.
Grammy aka Commando Coalfire Palin:
Ha! Please accept my apology. I’ve been spelling your name wrong and referring to you as Granny!
MizKay,
Hysterical!
With regard to the birth certificate issue, McCain can’t raise this himself because he has a bigger problem than Obama (who actually has none). The Constitution requires that the president be a “natural born citizen”. This means that you have to have been born IN THE US, not just be born to parents who are themselves American citizens.
McCain was not born in the US, he was born on a military base in Panama. There is a dispute among legal scholars as to whether he is a “natural born” citizen or not.
Today is a deadline of sorts for the Obama campaign. All of the decisions about where they can put their money in the next two weeks depend on how much they have in the coffers at midnight tonight. I’m topped out…can’t legally give them anymore now (so focusing on senate races, etc.) But if you have any more dollars you can send their way, now would be the time. Donate at
http://www.barackobama.com
Crunk Petrol Palin (09:23:25)
Are you sure about this? I always thought it simply meant that you cannot be a naturalized citizen and run for POTUS.
@ Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (09:17:50) :
Oh whoops, WV Democrat, that was inspired.
I made the same woops! Just laughing too hard, WV Democrat
My 24-yr-old son just voted … my 19-yr-old is at the Richmond Obama rally
I’M SUCH A PROUD MOM!!!!!!
BO isn’t out yet, still listening to the warmup act: Mark Warner
The place is packed to overflowing! Go Virginia Go!
rf11 – Grammy/Granny same difference!
Just listened to Orrin Hatch on MSNBC give a bunch of bologna in support of McCain. He actually said McCain was “cool-headed”. Say what!?
ds55, I enjoyed that article, too. Thanks for the quote from the comments section. The fact that Palin has led the charge in Alaska to “spread the wealth,” but now calls Obama a socialist for suggesting tax cuts for middle class Americans, is just baffling to me. I am convinced that Palin has no conscience at all.
Andrea Mitchell is now showing a video of McCain at a town hall in 2000 advocating for Obama’s tax plan.
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA, thanks for your analysis. I love Real Clear (I check it several times a day for the latest polls). I think a McCain win is unlikely, based on the state polls and what’s happening in the toss up states.
Andrea is pushing back at Orrin Hatch about the MSM being in the tank for Obama. Andrea is not happy.
Hatch’s Prediction: “John McCain is like Truman in the Dewey/Truman race.”
You read it here first, mudflatters.
Hatch says this is not a high school election. It’s serious, and we need an experienced President. Really, Orrin? It that’s true, what is Palin doing in the race?
jwa: Thanks for the reminder
Check out the link below “Looking into a Man’s Sole” for a look at Obama shoes of choice & notice McShame’s $520 Ferragamo loafers.
http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/08/the-measure-of.html
@ judi hussein that one Obama (09:32:44) :
jwa: Thanks for the reminder
Check out the link below “Looking into a Man’s Sole” for a look at Obama shoes of choice & notice McShame’s $520 Ferragamo loafers.
http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/08/the-measure-of.html
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Truly a picture’s worth a thousand words. My husband’s words, on seeing the Obama pic, “now these shoes are familiar.”
Anybody see Bay Buchanan on AC360 last night? Under questioning in the panel she finally came flat out and said “Obama is a socialist.”
David Gergen (whom I admire greatly) just waved his hands in disgust and Roland (last name??) started laughing out loud. I told my wife – the Repubs have finally “Jumped the shark.”
OK, so the RNC paid $150,000 for clothes for the Babe. Now, did anyone talked about make-up jobs for both McCain and the Babe? Mccain’s “artist”, Tifanie White of American Idol fame, was paid $8,672.5 in September to cover the spots; The Babe’s artist, Ami(y) Strozzi of “So you think you can dance”, was paid $13,200. Guess there more to cover there.
@rf11 : Hey! You’re another Space Child! My dad worked for NACA in VA and NASA in Cape Canaveral from the beginnning of the Manned Flight Program. Cool!
@Kat loves Wolves – We left Paris 5 years ago and headed west to Nantes. We have had our apartment on the market for one year and can’t sell it – we put it on the market just when the market started to slide here in France. I’m ready to move to the States – when there is a Dem in the White House.
“So, here’s an enjoyable moment from this morning’s Sarah Palin stump speech in Findlay, Ohio, in which the candidate, confronted with the name of Pittsburgh Steeler quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, wrestles the name to the ground by slowly sounding it out, syllable by syllable. She then ordered the crowd to feel proud about Ben Roeth…lis…ber…[pause]…ger: “You gotta be so proud of him.” Ahh, whatever. I guess what’s important is that she sure looked expensive.”
See video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/palin-pronounces-name-of_n_136832.html
McCain said it again. Watch Cindy’s face:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/mccain-mistakenly-says-cnt-insert-u-at.html
Crunk Petrol Palin (09:23:25) :
“With regard to the birth certificate issue, McCain can’t raise this himself because he has a bigger problem than Obama (who actually has none). The Constitution requires that the president be a “natural born citizen”. This means that you have to have been born IN THE US, not just be born to parents who are themselves American citizens.”
Does that mean that my sons can’t aspire to the presidency? Even though they are Americans but because they were born in France? Gonna go read my Constitution!
jwa-Cheney Hussein Palin
I am positive. Congress ultimately passed a law stating that kids born on military bases were “natural born” citizens, but the law was passed after McCain was born.
Under rules of statutory construction, Congress is presumed not to pass a law that is unnecessary (don’t laugh). Thus, the interpretation would be that those born before the law was passed must not be natural born citizens otherwise Congress would not have found it necessary to enact the law in the first place.
@ds55 (09:31:52) :
Just listened to Orrin Hatch on MSNBC give a bunch of bologna in support of McCain. He actually said McCain was “cool-headed”. Say what!?
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Surely you jest! I have heard many things about McHothead, of course “cool-headed’ is not one of them. Orrin baby you need a reality checkup!
Jamie, I checked out the birth cert issue on factcheck.com and snopes – thankfully, the whole thing raised by the guy in Phillie was b.s. To get all this way and have something like that go wrong would’ve totally freaked me out.
Jamie, Floridian in France
I have to admit this is hotly debated among legal scholars, though I think most would find that your sons could not be president. The interpretation stresses the meaning of natural born.
Maybe they could try for benevolent dictator?
BTW, please don’t take any offense, but I am not sure that anyone from France could be president given our current climate. 🙂
Sorry to say McCain is a citizen. Law passed in 1937, 1 year after McCain was born states that anyone born in the canal zone on or after 2-26-1904 is a US Citizen.
check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
Back to the scarf!
I went back to have a look and then read the comment section. Apparently, she was not wearing it during her speech, but it appeared when she was workin’ the crowd after. A great gift from an adoring fan!!!
Repubs aren’t too happy about all this. Here are a few zingers from Mike Murphy of Time magazine, former McCain campaign manager from 2000:
2.) What’s the difference between a Pit Bull and a Hockey Mom? You can feed a pit-bull for 483 years with 150 grand.
5.) New ad slogan: “Clothes for Gov. Palin? $150,000. Time machine to go back two months to late August and ask what the Hell were Schmidt and Davis thinking when they cooked up this idea and sold it to McCain? Priceless.”
For more: http://time-blog.com/swampland/
All this scheming and skimming the cream off tax payers’ milk buckets and personal vendettas and whatnot make me think that at least one of the reasons for Palin’s chucking of the security people (who would drive her around) and the mansion cook might be that the Palins really don’t want any non-family/friend employees hanging around and overhearing those scheming phone calls or conversations.
How does she envision carrying on that family-only tight privacy on a national stage? Does she think that she can chuck security and household personnel in Washington too? After all the crap that’s come out so far, does she still believe that her method of “transparent government” (i.e., hide, deny, lie”) would be even remotely possible in the big league?
It seems that she does… that’s one of the scary things about her.
@ El from Saskatchewan (10:03:40) : //Back to the scarf! I went back to have a look and then read the comment section. Apparently, she was not wearing it during her speech, but it appeared when she was workin’ the crowd after. A great gift from an adoring fan!!!//
LOL! Great joke on her. Maybe next time someone will give her a scarf with Obama logos embedded in the design.
I really liked the piece “How Racism Works,” in fact just spent 45 minutes looking for the source of that piece that was referenced on another thread here. The earliest version I have found is posted below, but it seems it truly has gone viral. If you Google that phrase (in quotes) you will see many different versions of it, in newspapers and blogs all over the country. An inspired piece –
Early version here – and possibly the original author:
SEPTEMBER 05, 2008
How racism works
What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said “I do” to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama were a member of the “Keating 5”?
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
— Kelvin LaFond, Fort Worth
http://startelegrameditwriters.typepad.com/letters_to_the_startelegr/2008/09/how-racism-work.html
Some interesting comments follow, including one making the author out to be a racist on the basis of his choices of points of comparison. (!)
Jamie
My daughter was born in Germany but her father was stationed there in the military, she obtained a German b.c. plus we had to do a bunch of paperwork on an American board abroad thru the Am consulate – she was added to my Am passport once we got through the rigamarole . . .
Oops meant to say an American BORN abroad . . .
ds55 – you have got to be kidding me! A “fan” gave her the scarf and she just stupidly took it and wore it, how funny can it get? I’ll bet the “fan” was ROFL – the woman just doesn’t have a clue, doesn’t even know what her party’s symbol is?? YIKES!! So, I guess we should not expect her to know what the VP does, how silly of us!
Meat Notgay Hussein,
I was dying to know about the Pensacola rally because I am an Alabama Gulf Coast girl living in Western Mass. Yay, Florabama! I was worried about it and I’m thrilled to hear it was lovely. Thanks for the link.
McCain’s Freudian Slip: yes, folks it was the C-word on the stump today.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/mccain-makes-classic-freu_n_136866.html
Listen and wonder……
As in “Unbreakable” the (sad, sad) point being driven home is in the last few seconds of this video.
McCain’s Freudian Slip:
Wonder what he thinking about at that moment…Mmmm?
I hope Letterman does a Top 10 of fashion statements by Bimbo . . .
I can’t wait to see what the final tally will be on the Palin wardrobe expenses – remember, that $150,000 was JUST for September!
White Agate (06:53:08) :
The RNC has sent me 3 mailers saying that they and only they can keep America safe. Yet here are the radical Islamists saying McCain is their candidate…yoikes!
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Ain’t it ironic? Sounds like Al Qaeda is . . . AFRAID OF OBAMA.
Hmmm. Maybe Al Qaeda sees that Obama’s policy’s will spread peace and hope and tolerance, all fatal to a radical message and fundamentalist recruitment.
40 Watt
Yeah, the dirty old man proving once again that he is a dirty old man.
judi hussein that one Obama
Several legal scholars question whether the retroactive portion of the law is constitutional. Retroactive provisions are disfavored by the courts. (That is just a fancy way of saying that they don’t like them and will often strike them down though they will leave the prospective application of the law intact.)
I also have to admit that I have found the “Wiki” site to be wrong in the past, particularly on issues that might be viewed as a little complicated.
40 watt,
Can’t watch the video, what did he mean to say, cut? Was it really unmistakeable or can’t he just say he was misheard and for people to get their minds out of the gutter? Why oh why can’t I watch these things, I miss so much!
squee (10:19:14) :
I can’t wait to see what the final tally will be on the Palin wardrobe expenses – remember, that $150,000 was JUST for September!
Great shot in the arm for the Asian garment sweatshops, isn’t it?
OK – I can understand RNC needing to put nice clothes on Scarah’s back – but a Louis Vuitton bag, too? Does Joe the Plumber’s wife have one of those?
Southernbelle (10:14:46) :
… I am an Alabama Gulf Coast girl living in Western Mass. Yay, Florabama! I was worried about it and I’m thrilled to hear it was lovely.
Hi Southernbelle! I’m in western Mass as well. More local Mudpups!
As I’m thinking about it, if it was so easy to get their hands on Obama’s birth certificate, how difficult can it be to find Trig’s?
A little of Chris Buckley’s quote:
So, I wish him all the best. We are all in this together. Necessity is the mother of bipartisanship. And so, for the first time in my life, I’ll be pulling the Democratic lever in November. As the saying goes, God save the United States of America.
For some reason, it just struck me as “well said” . . . .
New thread, let’s move.
New thread alert — and I haven’t finished reading the comments on this one…
rf11 in NO Longer Red, Florida (09:16:05) :
Obama has had a clear lead in PA since, at least, April. I have no idea why McCain is still spending money there.
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I don’t either, but it scares me, because of Repugs know anything, it is how to spend money. Perhaps they have secret poll numbers from the KKK or something?
@ Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (10:24:20) :
40 watt,
Can’t watch the video, what did he mean to say, cut? Was it really unmistakeable or can’t he just say he was misheard….
Yes, Kat, he meant to say cut. He corrected himself, from the first Freudian attempt, to cut. It sounded clear to me, but then I knew what he was about to say, allegedly. It maybe that some will hear it as indistinct. It’s hard to say, but easy to predict he will just say he was misheard. If he has any sense left, he’ll ignore the whole issue.
Republicans are trying to say that the $150,000 spent on Palin’s wardrobe is trivial and shouldn’t be an issue. ($150,000 is trivial? There’s one of their problems).
However, this expenditure should be of concern to Republicans, given that McCain is having to prioritize and pull out of battleground states because he’s short on money.
Repubs running for the House or Senate in those states hould be furious. The McCain camp had enough money to spend $150,000 on Palin, a clearly unqualified VP choice who is now polling as the greatest drag on the ticket, but they couldn’t support their candidates for the House and Senate?
I think this should be the bigger story. After all, we all know that Palin is all style and no substance. Why spend $150,000 to reinforce this obvious fact?
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA
Yes..he meant to say “rates were cut in the Bush years” but added the extra level. It was very evident on the Huffington video and the expression at the end on Cindy’s face was priceless
Shove Maggot “That One” Hussein aka the problem child, you’re right. The Repugs may have a plan to steal the election in PA. You never know.
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El from Saskatchewan (10:03:40) :
Hi and welcome, my fellow Canada-sider. *waves from Fredericton*
I want an ATM in the wall of the office at the palinaspresident game! Wouldn’t that be great? Or maybe a money-printing-press in the corner?
Bec Hussein in Illinois (10:25:43) :
“OK – I can understand RNC needing to put nice clothes on Scarah’s back – but a Louis Vuitton bag, too? Does Joe the Plumber’s wife have one of those?”
The Repubs paid for a Louis Vuitton bag? French? Made by French socialists???
Listening to Mornin Joe election extra with Mika and Mike Barnacle. You can tell Mika is FOR Palin because she introduced topic of Palin’s poll numbers with [loose quotation provided]: “There MAY be some appearance of Palin being something of a drag on the ticket.”
Come on!!! Palin is a LEAD WEIGHT. Let’s hope she keeps doing what she’s doing.
Grammy : so can your daughter become President?
Ok, all you Mudders! I just got back from voting in WV and I’m happy to say that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the touch screen. I used the stylus and touched each candidate I was voting for and no problemo. Along the side of the machine is a printer recording your vote. You can watch it print the name of the candidate and all went well. Touched Barack Obama and got Barack Obama! Well, not literally but you know what I mean… Even got an “I Voted Today” sticker… 🙂
I found this :
“Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:
(including these 2 lines):
*Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
*Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)”
Sorry, and this :
“Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. ”
So Grammy, your daughter and either of my sons can, one day, be President!”
WV Democrat (10:54:44) :
Ok, all you Mudders! I just got back from voting in WV and I’m happy to say that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the touch screen……..
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So glad to hear the ‘flipping’ problem has been fixed and Obama is getting his votes!!!! That is good news, thanks for sharing!!!
BTW, I forgot to mention that last nights local news said voting turnout broke another record yesterday , even more than the FIRST day of early voting!!!
The number of voters actually showing up to the polls is amazing, each day more and more show up…..HISTORY in the making down here in Dallas TX….Dallas turned BLUE in 2006, would be wqonderful to see the entire state turn blue this year.
How goes it elsewhere?
I apologise if someone has already posted this incredible flip flop from the McCainster as seen on the Daily Show last night re socialism. This goes to show ya how stupid this whole issue is in this campaign.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189119&title=mccain-says-the-s-word
I laughed so hard, I hurt myself.
WV Democrat (07:44:28) :
Saw the below comment on Wonkette about Sarah’s new clothes. I am now officially too tired to laugh more…
“But ultimately, what the shopping spree does is help those who are concerned about the wardrobe reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—oh, it’s got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So, wardrobe reform and reducing eyebrow hair and reining in split ends has got to accompany fat reductions and bikini waxes for Americans. And lipstick tattoos, we have—we’ve got to see lipstick tattoos as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the fake lipstick sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This shopping spree is a part of that.”
Too good 😀
@ ds55 (09:47:34) :
McCain said it again. Watch Cindy’s face:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/mccain-mistakenly-says-cnt-insert-u-at.html
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WOW! 😀 How many of us would make that mistake? Not me.