Palin Bakes Cookies for “The Base”

20 10 2008

The Republican “base” has been wolfing down helping after super-sized helping of hate speech. This weeks menu has featured “Socialist Surprise”, “Tax Misinformation Tartare” and “Flaming Terrorist Sympathizer” with a side of fear-mongering. After second and third helpings of this frenzied repast, and after loosening their belts, and pushing themselves back from the table, they’re somehow still not satisfied. Man, these guys can EAT! A little dessert to top it all off perhaps? How about a little cookie or something? And leave it to Super Sarah….she makes one heck of a cookie. A snickerdoodle perhaps? No….even better. Today’s flavor is Gay marriage and a brand new Constitutional Amendment all rolled into one! Nothing follows intolerance better than….more intolerance, especially if you’re rewriting the constitution at the same time! Yummy! It’s been a rough week for Republicans in the polls, and they need some good old-fashioned comfort food. So here it is, still warm from the Christian Broadcasting Network.

I am, in my own, state, I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that that’s where we would go because I don’t support gay marriage. I’m not going to be out there judging individuals, sitting in a seat of judgment telling what they can and can’t do, should and should not do, but I certainly can express my own opinion here and take actions that I believe would be best for traditional marriage and that’s casting my votes and speaking up for traditional marriage that, that instrument that it’s the foundation of our society is that strong family and that’s based on that traditional definition of marriage, so I do support that.

The rest of us might prefer a saltine and some flat ginger ale.

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20 10 2008
WV Democrat

LOL!

20 10 2008
MissSue MI

She”s sad…. just sad.

*am I first?*

20 10 2008
WV Democrat

Pretzels and Bud Light here!

20 10 2008
ds55

So, she’s just trying to lose the election now, right?

20 10 2008
C in CO

Oh, a new post – wow, what next from SP?

Here is an excerpt from the Salt Lake Tribune endorsement of Obama on 10/19.
They sure don’t mince any words on their feelings about SP.

” Then, out of nowhere, and without proper vetting, the impetuous McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. She quickly proved grievously underequipped to step into the presidency should McCain, at 72 and with a history of health problems, die in office. More than any single factor, McCain’s bad judgment in choosing the inarticulate, insular and ethically challenged Palin disqualifies him for the presidency. “

20 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

What happened to letting the “states” decide? Why do republicans want states to decide on certain issues, but think we need the federal government to decide on others? That really bothers me.

20 10 2008
ED

How sweet. She’s not going to judge or tell people what they should or should not do., She’s just going to work for a Constitutional Amendment and make it a law.

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Palin forgets that as governor, she ought not be showing indications of intolerance. She’s got to be willing to welcome everyone into the big tent, even if she doesn’t have a big tent.

Now, the “base” likes Palin cuz she’s hot. But you know who’s really hot?

Anna Maria Cox. Man is she smokin’.

John Hodgman needs a wardrobe manager. What a clash of materials! Maybe Sarah Palin can help him out. She should be available for a new assignment come Nov 5.

20 10 2008
rachelbirds

May her words come back
to bite her in the ass — she’s
all yours in two weeks.

http://thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/october-20-2008-7/

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

responsiblecitizen – Palin is one of these folks who are authoritarian statists. Just don’t ask her what that means.

20 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

She is just going to make sure that the government tells people what they can and cannot do, which completely is in keeping with the republicans’ call for less government. The madness of it all.

20 10 2008
Cindy aka Rake Trinket Palin

My governor has finally boggled me.

“I wish on a federal level that that’s where we would go because I don’t support gay marriage.”

Would seem to contradict

“I’m not going to be out there judging individuals, sitting in a seat of judgment telling what they can and can’t do”

Maybe it’s just my tiny, tiny lady brain, but these statements don’t seem to go together.

20 10 2008
Lana, KY

Perhaps some hot tar with feathers ?

20 10 2008
Southernbelle

AKM,
I apologize if I am going over old ground but in everything I’ve read so far it’s still not clear to me how Sarah Palin got to this point. I’ve read some of the earlier information about how she became Mayor of Wasilla but how did she jump from that to Governor? I also noticed somewhere on Huff Post today that she used a lobbyist group connected to McCain to help her get funds from the Federal Government. Is that correct? And James Carville mentioned on Larry King that Palin was suggested by a blogger? Yes, no? If you have explained all this in earlier posts which ones exactly? I, for one could use a refresher course. If not would you consider a succinct post on the matter? Thanks so much for the work that you are doing.

I did post about this….somewhere! But here are the highlights. Frank Murkowski, Palin’s predecessor was the WORST. GOVERNOR. EVER. He had been our US Senator, and when he had to come back and actually be seen by people, we realized how awful he was. He was so bad, in fact, that Palin ousted him in the Republican primary. He had 19%. This was quite remarkable, and that’s how she got her “exciting, fresh face” label. She ran in the general election against Tony Knowles, a moderate Democrat. He had been a two-term governor before, and seemed to everyone like “old news”. Alaskans wanted change, and Palin looked like it. We wanted to like her. Many Democrats I know voted for her. I have never been prouder that I didn’t.

Many in the Legislature, and the higher-ups in the political world here felt that being governor was WAY over her head and that she’d implode before her first term. The pipeline deal, many felt, would be her doom. Hopefully we’ll get the chance to find out. And her doom may come sooner and from another direction.

AKM

20 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Basically, she doesn’t want to come out and say that she thinks the Church should decide these matters and that she wants to use the government to advance the view of the Church. If you are religious and are fine with the church deciding these matters for you, that is fine, but the force of government should not be used to impose the Church’s views on citizens.

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Rake Trinket – but your “tiny, tiny lady brain” has more working cells than does Palin’s. Sucks to be her. Sucks even more to still have to listen to her drivel.

20 10 2008
WV Democrat

LOL! …again…

Look nothing that comes of of Palin’s mouth means much of anything. (Unless, of course, the unthinkable happens and Mc/P gets elected). The only think Palin has in common with any of us is her reproductive organs and even those have been used many more times than mine (allegedly).🙂

20 10 2008
WV Democrat

thing not think. Brain got ahead of my fingers…😦

20 10 2008
Mario

1. I do not endorse gay “marriage.”
2. I reject all proposed Constitutional amendments that discuss marriage in any way because they are merely a tool to drive uninformed bigoted rednecks to the polls where they would otherwise sit at home watching Nascar and eating Cheetos and Twinkies.
3. The people who think they are the angriest are the ill-informed sheep who will eat whatever is fed to them.
4. Sarah Palin is an unabashed wack-job, and (I hate to say this here) needs to return to Alaska never to be seen again on the national stage.

20 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Southernbelle,
There was a blogger that was a college student from Colorado (I think I am correct on that) that started a web campaign for Sarah Palin to be Vice President. He was on The Colbert Report a few days after the Sarah Palin announcement. Sarah Palin actually called to personally thank this young man for his support. The whole thing just seemed really bizarre, but then again, this whole election cycle has been pretty strange.

20 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Ummm Palin’s statement she’s not sitting in judgement, she is screaming her judgement by saying she wants to address this issue federally. Wow! First they want to turn over Roe V Wade and make that a state issue but gay marriage should be a federal issue???

What is it Sarah less government or more? I don’t want to impose my religion on you but I am going to make federal laws to make sure you live by my code???

This woman is truly disgusting!

20 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Anybody looked at the map today? I understand about ND; can anyone explain MT to me?

Somewhat surprising is a new poll in Montana in which McCain is leading by only 4 points in a state Bush won by 20 points in 2004 and by 25 points in 2000. Together with the statistical tie in North Dakota, it looks like a number of solid Republican states may not be solid at all. Of course, a 4-point win in Montana is as good as a 20-point win, but given the amount of money Obama has and how cheap television time is in Montana, he could afford a real blitz there.

20 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

She has lost her way wondering on that bridge to no where…somebody help Sarah find her way back.

20 10 2008
PrettyRagsNBones

“Why do republicans want states to decide on certain issues, but think we need the federal government to decide on others? That really bothers me.”
really, really good point. nothing pisses me off more than this particular type of intolerance.

20 10 2008
Sue

Palin is bringing up gay marriage because their campaign is desperate. Their “base” is composed of frightened, hate-filled people who love her hate-mongering, lie-filled speeches. And the more desperate their campaign gets, the more hateful Palin’s speeches will become. She certainly is a pit bull; McCain sends her out to do all the attacking while he hides behind her skirts; what a coward he is!

20 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

Here is an interesting article from The New Yorker on how Palin became VP.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?printable=true

20 10 2008
Jo Ann Staff Wrench Palin

Southernbelle, you should read the article “The Insider” in the New Yorker

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?printable=true

It is a fascinating account of how this wretched selection was made, and talks about Adam Bickley, a recent college grad and blogger who made it his mission to find a suitable running mate for McCain. And better still, the description of the methodical way Sarah courted the “media elite” when there was something she needed from them. Kristol should be drawn and quartered. Or better still, forced to spend eternity in deep conversation with Palin, who, according to the article, he described on Faux news in July as “my heartthrob”!

20 10 2008
Vice Peeper Palin

Where will they stop? McCain has no honor left. And Palin never had any……

http://ofbyandforthepeople.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/cover-up-smears-violence-the-mccain-campaign/#comment-63

20 10 2008
shilo442

off subject
Ob (Obama) is leaving for Hawaii on Thursday his grandmother is real sick, so he’s canceling his campaign for 2 days. Prayers go out to all of them.

20 10 2008
Bea

But AKM, no McCain Campaign Feast is complete without a big bowl of

SARAH PALIN WORD SALAD

crisp nouns
crunchy verbs
rich ripe dangling modifiers
talking points, roughly diced
misunderstood data, shredded fine
a pinch of race-baiting dog whistles
creamy BS dressing

Toss ingredients well, sprinkle with winks to taste, and serve to low-information voters.

Don’t forget the folksy crunchy croutons there, ya know. Also. AKM 🙂

20 10 2008
just a little old lady

Sen Obama’s dear grandmother is gravely ill. Group hug and prayers to her.

20 10 2008
inwoodite

I’ve heard before that Palin was picked because of a young blogger. In fact, my young studio assistant, who is now attending Evergreen in WA to study Art and Political Activism first told me this! I believe the blog is palinforvp.blogspot.com (I’m not giving him the bonus of a live link and I don’t want my comment to end up in spamville.) Here’s a link about the story for you: http://www.slate.com/id/2198949/

20 10 2008
ira2

Heh. Next thing you know, she’ll want to make an amendment that all voting – local to national – has to be done in a church. To make voting easier because every cow town has a church and that way the good people won’t have to go so far to vote. Of course only churches of her own persuasion will qualify as “a church”. And heathenish non-members won’t be allowed inside, so sorry. Ta-dah.

Btw, if she’s all geared up for the end of days and whatnot, why is she wasting all this time running for a job that can’t possibly make a difference in this very short time left? What’s the forecast, when are we all supposed to go up in smoke again? This year? Next year? Two years from now? Is God gonna hold off on it until she gets a chance to pull off a full 4 years? Do we know? Why don’t we know? We need to know this. It’s important stuff.

On the note of important stuff, I skipped my monthly bar of chocolate this month and it is NOT good. I shoulda known that I need it badly in October.

20 10 2008
Soldotna Sue

So, how do you think having Barack out of the campaign for at least 4 days will effect everything? We have so few days left that having him gone to his Grandmother’s bedside is kind of scary. I certainly understand that he has to go to Hawaii but what will the McLooney do while he’s gone?

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

The gift that keeps on giving Fruitcake Nutcase on the way to Barbie

20 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

@responsiblecitizen08 (17:54:29) :

She is just going to make sure that the government tells people what they can and cannot do, which completely is in keeping with the republicans’ call for less government. The madness of it all.

—————————————-
Sounds like Sarah ‘Moose’alini is a fascist. She seems to favor oppressive, dictatorial control.

20 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin

Oh goody… it smells again and it’s not cookie dough. Remember no cookies for certain (ahem) posters. G’night Puppies!

20 10 2008
just a little old lady

Don’t know if my first comment posted. Sen Obama’s grandmother is gravely ill. He’s leaving campaign on thur & fri to see her. Prayers to her and his family.

20 10 2008
Blue in MT

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (18:02:53) :
Here’s a bit on MT: we had a terrible Repub governor (Martz) and then Democrat Brian Schweitzer was elected in 2004, due to Martz’s poor perfromance. Conrad Burns (LONG-TIME US Senator) was affiliated with swindler Jack Abramoff and Burns was named one of the 13 most corrupt politicians in Washington. He was ousted by John Tester, Dem in 2006. MT and VA senator races were the turning point for Dems in the Senate.
So, I’d say that Montanans have had enough. Additionally, there are a large number of folks moving to Montana from traditionally blue areas. The eastern area (VERY rural & red) of the state is losing population to the west, which is quite a bit more liberal. Montana is ready for a CHANGE!

20 10 2008
Bea

You know how McInsane has been whining about ACORN? Turns out, his campaign paid $175K to the guy that’s been indicted for VOTER FRAUD in CA:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/mccain-employing-gop-oper_n_136254.html

20 10 2008
Southernbelle

Thanks Responsible and JoAnn. I’m just trying to understand how someone who, forgive me, seems like a reject from a reality teevee show could be President and how on earth she got here. I just keep feeling like there is more to it than what we’ve learned so far. Maybe my old 60’s paranoia is showing up what with all the ugly racist rant. I’m probably having a case of Post Traumatic Scarydom. Thanks for the suggestion. I’m off to read it right now.

20 10 2008
ds55

Speaking of secessionists… Here for your consideration is a private company made up of defense contractors running city governments in the state of Georgia, USA.

“Privatised Cities — When the government of the city of Sandy Springs in Georgia decided to bring in a multinational corporation to run all of the city’s services – with the exception of police and firefighting – it effectively became the first fully privatized city in the world.

It’s a trend that is already spreading fast, with four new cities launched in the last three years, all of them run by the same company, defense contractors CH2M Hill. ”

Oh and by the way, the spokesperson on this film for the corporation CH2M Hill is a Republican.

One degree of separation. CH2MHill is the company that bought out oil services company Veco…that’s right, the company of Bill Allen who plead guilty to bribing Alaska Legislators, and was the star prosecution witness at the Ted Stevens trial. I feel dizzy. AKM

20 10 2008
Sue

Neither Palin nor McCain has any plan to actually make gay marriage or abortion illegal. They just say these things to garner votes and to bolster their base. McCain has no plan to help the American people; he is running for President for his own ego. Consequently, he says (or has Palin say) whatever he thinks will gain him votes. He stirs up fear and then feeds it hatred and lies; sadly, many people fall of this method.

20 10 2008
Soldotna Sue

Hey, Just an Old Lady,

No one here seems to know about this sad development. Sweet faithful Grand Son that Barack is of course he’s going to her bedside but it scares me!

20 10 2008
pvazwindy

Sweet Jesus, please let Barack’s grandmother see him make it. Give them comfort in knowing.

20 10 2008
Donald from Hawaii

How sad. Makes me wonder what’s in the water up there, that this sort of person is considered by the Alaska electorate to be acceptable as the state’s chief executive.

But then, we have your Uncle Ted’s best friend, Dan Inouye, along with Sarah’s “favorite Jew”, Gov. Linda Lingle — so who am I to say anything?

20 10 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin

Here’s Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment” on hate in the McCain/Palin campaign, taking on Bachmann, et al.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27285708/

20 10 2008
Bea

Soldotna Sue (18:23:31) :

We do know about Barack’s grammy, We all sent our love to her in the previous thread… just don’t want you to think we are heartless.

I am adding envisioning her watching her grandson being sworn in to my nightly “manifest Obama” ritual.

http://manifestobama.com/

20 10 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin

Trying to repost Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment” tonight about the tone of the right’s campaign:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27285708/

20 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

I knew I saw this today, on fivethirtyeight.com …the Wikipedian Candidate.
(Could be a catchy movie title).
The article links to this blog by Adam Brickley:
http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/

So is Brickley – the original perp we have to thank for all this?

Yes. Although, considering the millstone she has become, we may have him to actually, really thank. AKM

20 10 2008
Mollys Mum

@ Soldotna Sue

It’s funny you say 4 days, that’s what Jonathan Alter also said on Rachel Maddow today. But in fact Barack will only be off the trail for 2 days — Thursday and Friday. I agree that at this point in the campaign the timing is not ideal, but I don’t think this will hurt him. It only proves what his priorities are–commitment to family, concern for others. As was pointed out on Rachel’s show, so much of modern campaigning takes place on the internet, on TV, via surrogates, etc. that Barack’s absence from actual rallies is probably not as dire as it might appear. He will apparently be taking a small TV crew with him, and Michelle will be filling in at some of his scheduled appearances. In addition, it would be really in poor taste for McCain and Co. to step up the attacks on him under the circumstances–in fact if they don’t pull back some, my guess is their cause would be even further damaged. So all in all, while my heart goes out to the Obama family and I’m sure this must be a grievously difficult time for them, I don’t think he needs to worry unduly about lack of momentum in the campaign.

20 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Bea, you’re good! Not a salad I want to eat, but I’m sure, tasty sounding to the Christianites!

I need y’all’s help.

Please add to my list.

Some of you may deplore the addition of the Christianites listed here – I don’t mean to offend.

I’d really appreciate your thoughts on these and any others you think should be added. (I’m working on an art project). Thanks.

Here’s the start of my list of anti-Americans,

George Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, John McCain, Michelle Bachmann,
James Dobson, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Dick Morris, G. Gordon Liddy, Franklin
Graham

20 10 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

No, she’s not going to judge anyone, it’s just her opinion, but she’d like a constitutional amendment.

Did she miss that class about the separation of church and state in civics?

20 10 2008
Sue

Of course Barack is going to see his grandmother. He is a good Christian man who knows that, other than God, family comes first. And no one, not even McCain or Palin, can criticize him for that. Most voters will admire him for leaving the campaign trail to see his grandmother; this will show people the kind of person he truly is.

20 10 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

The Wikipedian Candidate on fivethirtyeight.com links to this blog,
by Adam Brickley – Draft SP for VP.
http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/

20 10 2008
Teresa

Drop her a card:

Mrs. Madelyn Dunham
In care of: Obama for America
Honolulu Headquarters
1050 Ala Moana Blvd Ste D2690
Honolulu, HI 96814

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

no feeding of trolls; remember our pact. not a crumb

20 10 2008
awake'n aware

Is it just me? Am I the only one who thinks Ms. Sarah is wearing a bit too much blush these days? She’s not looking well folks. Me thinks the lady is starting to show the stress on her face. She’s looking pale and drawn and trying to use heavy make up to hide it. Wonder what she’s planning to wear for Halloween this year.

20 10 2008
Bea

Teresa (18:31:15) :

Drop her a card:

Mrs. Madelyn Dunham
In care of: Obama for America
Honolulu Headquarters
1050 Ala Moana Blvd Ste D2690
Honolulu, HI 96814

_____

What a GREAT idea. I’m going to write one right now and put it in the mailbox tonight!

20 10 2008
Soldotna Sue

Molly,

Thanks. Yes, I got the 4 day thing from Rachel’s show. I suppose any number of days is speculation. It all has to depend how his Grandmother does. My prayers will be with him and his beloved Grandmother.

20 10 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin

Have been banished to the spam-bin? I’ve been trying to post a link to Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment” tonight.

20 10 2008
ira2

awake’n aware (18:31:39) :

Is it just me? Am I the only one who thinks Ms. Sarah is wearing a bit too much blush these days? She’s not looking well folks. Me thinks the lady is starting to show the stress on her face. She’s looking pale and drawn and trying to use heavy make up to hide it. Wonder what she’s planning to wear for Halloween this year.

No makeup?

20 10 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin
20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Kate – Palin often skipped class; that’s why it took her so long going to so many places to get her college degree. Of course, her incoherent and rambling statements make me wonder if she actually earned that journalism degree.

Sue – mccain will continue to implode and palin will continue to try to bury people under an avalanche of incomprehensible words. Barack’s campaign will be fine while he tends to family matters; besides, he has Joe Biden in there to keep things lively and pertinent.

I do smell something… maybe a troll or maybe the result of someone playing with his pe pe.

20 10 2008
Soldotna Sue

Teresa & Bea,

What a wonderful idea to send Barack’s Grandmother a get well card. You guys are great! Thanks for the address.

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

I see ya Mullet Troll. Yer much better looking than sarah palin!!

20 10 2008
Alexander Rose

I’m just glad she’s telling us how she really feels…

These people did the same…

http://thehedonistperspective.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/tell-them-how-you-really-feel/

People are rarely happy when they realize the world is moving on without them…

20 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Ira2 – you are hilarious! (previous thread) – I would say you were on a roll.

and then who knew – a new thread on Cookies!

Yes, chocolate is a vegetable. (So is vodka and cigarettes.)

20 10 2008
Joan aka Timber Challange Palin

I completely agree with Sue. Let’s all Keep Barack’s Grandma in our prayers, however and to whom we pray…not only for her health but also to be given time to see her beloved grandson become President!

It’s defining moments like these that show a person’s true character!

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

If Sarah Palin eats any more of those cookies, her base will spread.

And I aint talking about them pesky voters, neither!

20 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

@awake’n aware (18:31:39) :

Is it just me? Am I the only one who thinks Ms. Sarah is wearing a bit too much blush these days? She’s not looking well folks. Me thinks the lady is starting to show the stress on her face. She’s looking pale and drawn and trying to use heavy make up to hide it. Wonder what she’s planning to wear for Halloween this year.
——————————————–
She will just go as herself, what could be scarier?

20 10 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin

Maybe this time, this way:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27285708/

20 10 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin

Okay, all this is new to me. That last post was to Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment” today on hate in the McCain/Palin campaign. Finally got it in here!

20 10 2008
Bea

Have you all seen this?

YES WE CARVE

Makes me🙂 !

20 10 2008
ExPatInMontreal

I haven’t seen the word ‘homophobia’ posted here yet, but it seems like the obvious culprit, no dancing around it.

How one segment (5%? 10%?) of our society can be singled out for the exclusive EXCLUSION from the tenets of the Constitution is beyond the pale and inhumane. She’s a homophobe, plain and simple. It doesn’t garner her more votes, but it stokes the ire of her devoted faithful. ~MHO

20 10 2008
akbearable

HERE COMES THE NEXT BIG WAVE OF RED NECKS TO BEAUTIFUL ALASKA!

The first big wave (at least since my 53 years living in AK) came with the pipeline. Before it was mostly a blue state. Now with Sarah’s big mouth blaring across the nation proclaiming that the “vast majority” of Alaskans doesn’t support gay marriage will be bringing more of them up here in droves. Man we can’t win for losing! Our only hope is for very cold winters with LOTS of record breaking cold. That might stem the tide a bit when those mostly southerners try to deal with frozen square tires and frozen car batteries.
I LOVE this state, but I hate what it has become in the way people just want to cash in her resources and to hell with her beauty and unspoiled wilderness. blah!

20 10 2008
ira2

@ Dragon Lady (18:39:56) :

You betcha. I wouldn’t know about vodka (goody-two-shoes here doesn’t drink), but I’m with you on chocolate and tobaccy. And for those hardcore nutritionalista days inbetween minor splurges, there’s always peach pie or berry cobbler. Also very healthy food, especially with extra ice cream and whipped cream on top (and I’m talking the real stuff, not that watery poop out of a can or plastic tub!)

20 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Bea – thanks so much for the sympathy hug. Your SP word salad is hilarious.

Will SP still be a star when she returns to AK?

Will she run for Congress? I don’t see her ever leaving AK to be on Fox or in WDC.

(As for med records – nah, it isn’t the baby. Probably just a tummy tuck or Botox. Had to get that in.)

20 10 2008
ira2

Btw, there she goes again bring “family” into the picture. She brings it up… why do we have to be the polite and considerate ones and not pick hers to point out why she’s a frigging hypocrite?

20 10 2008
BS

Hey – did anybody notice that SP is scheduled to speak at the AFN convention on Thursday? I wonder if she will be there personally or will submit some kind of pre-recorded speech. What could she possibly have to say? Should be interesting in any case.

Will you be there? Any Mudflatters planning on attending AFN this week?? Let me know. akmuckraker@yahoo.com Thanks! AKM

20 10 2008
ira2

–not pick hers apart (forgot that word above)

20 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Bea (18:49:20) :
Thanks for the link Bea. Very inspiring!

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

hey muddies..

I’ve not been following the thread tonight. so if this has been seen, oops.. but, if you want something to watch and say WOW, thats what I wanna say, then watch this clip from KO… He should be in charge of all things media..!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27285708/

20 10 2008
copybook realist

I got home an hour ago and I have been sifting through the news before entering the mudflats domain…..Poor Barack. I hope that Grandma will hold on long enough to see him as president. President Barack Obama.

I love the fact that Michelle will be taking over.

This all fits into a dream I had in which I was a writer and knew Barack and Michelle personally (It was nice!). I was writing a book about a connection between the Obama’s and the painting by Grant Woods called American Gothic…it seemed sort of far fetched in the dream, but now I think that I get it….it is the connection to an appreciation of the Midwest values and culture. Kansas…and redefining the Midwest

Shout out to all South Cal dreaming folk. I have become inspired by Pittsburg. Can we have a get together?

20 10 2008
Tired of racism Mom

Local news here in VA: a reverend had a large Obama sign stolen overnight and replaced with an equally large confederate flag! Oh, the shame I feel…. changing my moniker.

20 10 2008
Bea

Aw man, AKM, you are right I completely forgot to add the folksy croutons to the word salad. Also.

She is really making me hate the word “also”. Also.

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

I just had my own chocolate chip cookie which was a whole lotta better than readin’ Palin’s doggone words, doncha know. Golly gee, I couldn’t listen to her because, well, chalkboards, fingernails, screech!, also.

Govenor Palin,
spewing hateful verbiage–
rendered obsolete.

And, yes, Governor Palin, verbiage is three syllables, not two.

I don’t get the hysteria over gay marriage. It won’t affect straight people in the least. A friend of mine told me about a woman who is marrying her boyfriend before he has his transgender operation because they wouldn’t be able to marry after. Same person, different gender, different rules.

I could pick up a guy in a bar, fly to Vegas and marry him, but I can’t marry Rachel Maddow (hey, I can dream) if we were together for ten years.

Religious people say it’s a sin. Fine. Their churches don’t have to marry gay people. However, discrimination under the law (separation of church and state) should not be legal.

I still want pie. I should buy one next time I go shopping.

20 10 2008
copybook realist

asianHusseingrrl”

pie is good!

20 10 2008
awake'n aware

You Betcha. If I were to meet her on a dark Halloween night, she posing as herself, sans make up, I’d be scared clean out of my wits! I’d be inclined to tackle her, tickle her silly, then stuff her lying mouth so full of candy corn that she’d be speechless until after the election.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

Somehow, Obama cancelling stuff thurs and friday to go see his grandmother in Hawaii, seems so completely Obama. Just the mere thought of McGrumpy giving a crap about anyone in his family, at this point, just seems so alien to me.

God Bless your grandmother, as without her, perhaps we wouldn’t have you to rally this country in such a time of need.

I give him total credit for suspending stuff at such a crucial time as he believes Family First, and unlike McGrumpy who makes a mockery of Country First, at least we know who believes in what they say and follows through with whatever is needed to be done..

20 10 2008
DonnaInMichigan

Is Alaska preparing itself for the return of their beloved Governor?

Are the marching bands practicing? The ticker tape being readied?

Floats being put together?

Cause ya’all are getting her back after November 4th.

After all, come November 4th, the lower 48, will have no use for her, anymore! She is all yours.

20 10 2008
Bea

Tired of racism Mom (19:05:02) :

I’m another VA’ian who is ashamed. How can this still go on in 2008?

On a happier note, I suddenly realized today that we have quite a few Virginians here, so I have hope for The Commonwealth… and maybe a post-election VA Mudstock?

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

Bea.. Fairfaxian here..🙂

20 10 2008
Tired of racism Mom

Yes Bea, there is a Virginia – unfortunately some of it is still stuck in the 1800s. So mad at whoever did that to the elderly reverend. Can’t wait to see Obama on Wednesday here in Richmond – I know it will be a diverse crowd of like thinking people.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

Bea, gasp.. I forgot.. i live in the less than real Northern VA. You know, the rest of VA is the real VA.. And oddly, i live in the fake VA.

i’m just not sure where i live anymore..!

20 10 2008
ira2

Olbermann in print is off by a big amount of time or money though:

“Since giving voice to your remarkable delusion that there are members of Congress who are “anti-America,” and the extraordinary tap-dance of sleaze and innuendo about Sen. Obama which followed, the challenger for your house Seat, Elwyn Tinklenberg, has been inundated by donations – $7,000 in the three days after you spoke.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27285708/

That wasn’t $7,000 in three days… that was at least $7,000 in three hours, wasn’t it?

$700,000 in three days! AKM

20 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Blue in MT (18:22:31) :

Thank you so much, Blue. I could hard believe it when I first saw it. Felt that way about ND, too, but I know now they have some pretty good reasons for not voting for M/P.

I hope there are lots more positive surprises in the next four days, especially regarding rallies.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

ira, they’re over $700,000 now..:)

20 10 2008
Soldotna Sue

DonnaInMichigan

Hey, that’s mean! We don’t want her back! You lower 48ers have to think of something to do with her! ha!

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

ira… i think he said 700, not 7.. you are right.. he had like 35,000 by midnight..

20 10 2008
Spoon Archer Hussein Palin

Yo, Sarah. About that pesky clause in the 14th Amendment:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Jaysus, as I read that is so freaking clear. You can’t have marriage for some. Hey, maybe this is what the fundies are afraid of, that some extreme literal — cause there are literals in addition to liberals — will read the 14th Amendment and go “Fine! No one can get married then!” and then their nightmare of gay marriage “destroying” hetero marriage would come true. But whose fault would that be?

20 10 2008
Visitor

She is so gosh darn annoying.

P.S. I hear her cookies aren’t that good.

20 10 2008
Tired of racism Mom

Mudstock in VA would be too cool!! Wish all of us muddies were able to meet somewhere after this is all over. Maybe we could all book a cruise to Alaska to meet AKM, Brian and Brenda.

20 10 2008
rf11

southernbelle, if you’re interested in how Palin went from Governor of Alaska to McCain’s VP choice, here’s an informative article from the New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer

You (or someone else) were asking about the blogger who started the “draft Palin” push. His name is Adam Brickley. His role in the Palin VP pick is covered in this article.

20 10 2008
Pistol Tanker Palin aka New Mexican Citizen

An antidote to all things Palin:

http://www.myamericanprayer.com/video.html

Cleanse your souls, fellow citizens.

20 10 2008
DonnaInMichigan

The difference between McCain suspending his campaign

And Obama taking a few days off from the campaign trail.

Obama didn’t make call a press conference, but let his campaign official make the statement.

McCain of course, had to do it in a press conference himself.

McCain suspended his campaign as a STUNT.

Obama is taking time off to visit his gravely ill grandmother.

But you watch, the idiots at the RNC, will state its just a gimmick or a stunt. That Obama is using it as a way to get sympathy votes. Mark my words..you will see it, on FOX news…

20 10 2008
ira2

Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter (19:14:58) :

ira… i think he said 700, not 7.. you are right.. he had like 35,000 by midnight..

That’s what I mean… it was WAY more than $7,000 in WAY less than 3 days. I wish they’d correct that on the the page with the article. If I knew how to go about that kind of thing, I’d email somebody about it.

20 10 2008
Bea

Marty,
I grew up in fake Virginia and now live in “real” Virginia. Guess I’m a poseur. lol.

Tired Mom,
I’m jealous you’ll get to see him in Richmond! Closest he’s come to me is Roanoke, but i was in Charlottesville at that time. 😦

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@copybook realist, are you getting any further on the yummy sweet potato & pecan pie? I want pie.

I don’t think Obama going to see his grandmother will hurt his campaign. As for McCain, one of the reasons Cindy McCain is so sad is because McCain never went home when she had a miscarriage (she’s had more than one). I could provide links for this, but I’m too lazy right now. It’s also clear that Palin cares more about herself than her children.

Again, which party supposedly believes in family values?

20 10 2008
NSWFM

OK, all of this is one GIANT run-on sentence:

Sarah Palin: “I’m not going to be out there judging individuals, sitting in a seat of judgment telling what they can and can’t do, should and should not do, but I certainly can express my own opinion here and take actions that I believe would be best for traditional marriage and that’s casting my votes and speaking up for traditional marriage that, that instrument that it’s the foundation of our society is that strong family and that’s based on that traditional definition of marriage, so I do support that.”

What do her educator parents have to say about this? What about the school system that it took her so many years to graduate from have to say about this?

20 10 2008
Braveny

My prayers go out to Barack’s Grandmother as well.

I think the refusal of SP to disclose medical records is just a ruse to get folks to focus on her and NOT on McCain who has a history of melanoma. Think about it.

Medical records are protected by HIPAA.. not available unless you are the patient. I work in Healthcare.

20 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

responsiblecitizen08 (18:02:13) :

Southernbelle,
There was a blogger that was a college student from Colorado (I think I am correct on that) that started a web campaign for Sarah Palin to be Vice President. He was on The Colbert Report a few days after the Sarah Palin announcement. Sarah Palin actually called to personally thank this young man for his support. The whole thing just seemed really bizarre, but then again, this whole election cycle has been pretty strange.
—————————————
Take AKM’s reply to Southernbelle and then read this link, and I think you can see the overall picture pretty well:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer

I remember where a writer from the left went on that Alaskan cruise and wrote a what I thought at the time completely comedic account! I just wish I could remember where I read it. The little bon mot “interviews” with the Ship of Neocons was amazing. These people came off as completely deluded. But I guess from the New Yorker account William Kristol and Dick Morris were in total smit city with Palin. I guess she really got blood moving around in these decrepit political predators. I think it really was their excitement at the thought of manipulating her as the perfect Stepford Candidate. Somehow these kinds of people have a psychological need to manipulate people for their own ends. A “hot” woman must have been a new kind of novelty for them in this life long constant mindset. A new twist on it. If anyone remembers that article, please post a link. Maybe it was the New Yorker too? Atlantic Monthly? Harpers? Mother Jones? I just can’t remember. I would love to read it again now. There would be some very good quotes in there to use now. I think the writer actually had to get off the ship early at some other port because they just could not take it anymore.

20 10 2008
DonnaInMichigan

Soldonta Sue…

Nuh uh…….Palin isn’t our responsibility. 10 weeks or so, of her being down here, will be ENOUGH.

If I had that magical wand, that she speaks about, I would of used it already and sent her back to Kans……I mean Alaska….pronto….

But then again, I don’t believe Sarah has been the same since that house fell on her sister……just sayin……

20 10 2008
Crazy In Alaska

I love that Sarah thinks family values can only exist in men/women marriages. She is a moron!!! And every day that goes by makes me more embarrassed to say I live in Alaska.

20 10 2008
Lacy Lady

The way Palin thinks about religion and our country—makes me think of the Taliban. We have freedom of religion in our country. Separation of church and state. With all these crazies ideas of hers, I shudder to think what would happen if she ever gets in power. YIKES!!!!!!!!! Her church supports a campaign to convert Jews to Jesus. They say that Jews are being punished because they don’t believe in Jesus. You can hear this sermon on the Wasilla Bible church web site.. Sarah Palin was there on that day. A collection was taken to support this cause. church@wasillabible.org Sermon 8-17-08 The Jerusalem Delemma /David Brickner (preacher)

20 10 2008
MJC

50,000 for Barack and Hillary in Orlando, Florida (Pictures)

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/20/204232/88/740/636921

20 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Soldotna Sue (19:14:41) :

DonnaInMichigan

Hey, that’s mean! We don’t want her back! You lower 48ers have to think of something to do with her! ha!
———————————————-
You betcha! We could lock her in a padded cell in one of those “wonderful little pockets” of what she calls “the real America”, in one of the “very pro-America areas of this great nation.”

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

awake’n aware – is candy corn abuse allowed where you live? just remember, candy corn is smarter than that sarah palin yaptrap ya wanna shove ’em into. …
😉

20 10 2008
Lana, KY

Jon Stewart on the Daily Show just did a spot on Wasilla that was quite funny.
Interviewed the mayor, a teacher, a secessionist, a couple of classy guys in a bar and showed some of the sites around town. Check it out.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/

20 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

WV Democrat (18:00:09) : ,

I saw your post on the Pittsburgh Mudstock thread. To get in the loop (or anyone else in the W.Pa. area too) e-mail me at: HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com We’d love to have you at our next get together 7-10 days after the Presidential Election. It will also probably be at Rolands in the Strip District. Is very easy to find.

20 10 2008
Trini

Bea, I am inspired. I wasn’t going to do a pumpkin this year, but now I will! It will say vote! I have to work on the designs. But, thank you!

20 10 2008
Braveny (CA) Rankle Hiway Palin

Yay.. got my official mudpuppie name 🙂

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Donna – do think people watch faux news? personally, given their unfair and unbalanced news coverage, I think Rupert Murdoch ought to file as a 527 PAC, or at least file the value of his political one-sidedness with the FEC.

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

think = thinking

20 10 2008
squee

If you aren’t watching The Daily Show right now, you need to set the vcr for the next airing or watch it on their website later. Jason Jones just did a HILARIOUS field piece in Wasilla. Such a “lovely” small town and all those mayoral responsibilities! Wonder how Sarah had so much time to screw with everything else?😛

Seriously, you must watch this…

20 10 2008
loreenwl

How could Obama going to his ailing grandmother possibly be a negative? I know it gives the right wing time to foment all kinds of nasty stuff in his absence. However, seems like if they do that it could backfire like a lot of the other stuff they’ve done this year.

20 10 2008
Tired of racism Mom

Lana, seems today’s show is not up yet … forgot to watch, so guess I can catch it tomorow

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

judi- hows about we stick her with all that other unwanted stuff under Yucca Mountain? She won’t have to worry about being stalked by those pesky moose or wolves there. …

20 10 2008
MJC

POSTCARDS FOR OBAMA’S GRANDMA

The Hawaii state director for the Obama campaign, has confirmed that the campaign will make sure that the cards are sent to the Obama family.

Mrs. Madelyn Dunham
In care of: Obama for America
Honolulu Headquarters
1050 Ala Moana Blvd Ste D2690
Honolulu, HI 96814

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/20/22723/885/961/592961

20 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

@akbearable (18:50:16) :

HERE COMES THE NEXT BIG WAVE OF RED NECKS TO BEAUTIFUL ALASKA!

—–
Good news; lower 48 rednecks could never deal with the cold Alaskan winter.
Bad News: the fundies will be flocking to Alaska to help Sarah & Todd create the new country of Christland. Man, I am scarin myself now…

20 10 2008
copybook realist

Thanks for the photos MJC.

Obama lights my fire….sorry Hillary. You look good though!…I am thinking lemon meringue pie …

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

squee – she’s got 5 kids, so she (and Todd) musta had plenty of time to screw around.

20 10 2008
cis/wordtosser

Where were her thoughts on marriage when she was allegedly playing footies with hubby’s partner???? what a hypocrite

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

From the Couric interview when Palin explains why she is against Roe vs. Wade.

“I think it should be a states’ issue not a federal government-mandated, mandating yes or no on such an important issue. I’m, in that sense, a federalist, where I believe that states should have more say in the laws of their lands and individual areas. And I believe that individual states can best handle what the people within the different constituencies in the 50 states would like to see their will ushered in an issue like that.”

What a difference a month makes. Or, Palin is having a hard time remembering her lines.

20 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Lacy Lady,
I agree with you, extreme right wing, fundamentalist Christians remind me of the Taliban. Given the slightest chance they would have it be mandatory to be Christian in this country, that is really what they want. No choice, no other religions, just all Christians all the time.

20 10 2008
Michele

Ah, the Christian Broadcasting Network–that ratings giant. I think she’s trying to set up her own national political career. It’s fun to watch. She somehow needs to distance herself from McCain enough to not get lumped in with his epic failure (even though she is without a doubt the number one reason for it), while still appearing to support him enough to be loyal (plus, there’s still a chance he could win–she can’t totally throw him under the bus just yet). It will take a seasoned pol with lots of finesse to pull this off. Or else a bald-face liar with no shame. I think she just might have the chops.

20 10 2008
Anonymous

New reason – for the war in Iraq.
We’ve heard so many reasons, regime change, oil WMDs regional stability, can’t encourage the terrorists, permanent bases… that another new one seems to be just another sound byte. Yet this one bothered me because it
a: falsely states the reason for the Iraq war, and
b: falsely states her son’s reason for being there, and
c: trots out her family into the public limelight as it suits her.

Here’s a clip of McCain’s choice, telling a protester that he’s got that right because her son is fighting for it- in Iraq.

And one claiming that vets gave that right to … uh her supporters…

… Who grants us rights ?

“…We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

loreenwl (19:32:33) :

How could Obama going to his ailing grandmother possibly be a negative?
+++++++++++++

Shows real family values to me. I am proud of O for attending to the woman who raised him.

20 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Bea, Tired, and Marty – definitely a Commonwealth Mudflat party. I am in that place known only for Fleet’s Enema (no joke) and Jerry Falwell.

I thought when Falwell died it meant that Hillary would win the presidency. God is merciful to all his creatures. (Even teletubbies.)

20 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party (19:33:54)—An excellent idea sauer. Bet if we all put our heads together we can find any number of places to put her. Then we could put it to a vote.

20 10 2008
Tired of racism Mom

Dragon Lady,

Too funny you should mention Fleet’s, my son works for the printing company that printed the Enema Man calendar this year – he brought one home for us, funniest thing ever!

20 10 2008
AZtopcat

Hello fellow mudpuppies. This afternoon I spent 3 hours training to be a poll worker in Arizona. I made an observation that there are numerous volunteers who are Senior citizens and are extremly fearful of the technology being used.
MInd you I am no spring chicken soon to be 56 so Iam not being critical. I see an extreme need for competent poll workers so if you can volunteer a day which you will be paid , while it is a rather long day your support I am sure will be deeply appreciated no matter where you live. Please give this some serious consideration for we do not want mistakes at the polls on Nov. 4th.

20 10 2008
rf11

Obama is showing real family values instead of merely giving lip service, like McCain’s running mate does. From what I’ve read and seen from Palin, I’m not impressed with her family values. Palin’s definition of family values seems to be “Sarah First!”

20 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Everyone! I did it! Today, Monday, October 20th, I voted for President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden!

I had a grin on my face the whole time – people probably thought I was crazy, but I didn’t care! It seemed like there were quite a few people there grinning ear to ear! And we still use paper ballots! Woohooo! I colored in the little ovals!

Keith O’s Special Comment Rant was AWESOME!

<<>>

It’s all going to be OK…the Obama organization has everything under control. He has surrounded himself with the best and brightest…they are beaucoup smart. I have to keep reminding myself of this several times a day. And sometimes I have to remind myself to breathe more often – I find myself holding my breath a lot lately!

20 10 2008
ColoradoHusseinGal

This is OT, but I just read a very disturbing story on Huffington Post:

“A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.”
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200881020067

It is so sad that this bear cub had to pay with its life for the ignorance of some “supposedly” humans.

20 10 2008
copybook realist
20 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

I want to know on this blog who is Pro America or who is Anti America? We need to know so we can get you removed from this blog!

Now that looks as crazy as it sounds, but the Mccain camp and Bachmann thinks this type of behavior is ok. It scares me really it does.

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Chief Hussein Shikago, come on! I got me rednecks here in MN, and I am sure you do, too. They are just meaner in the cold states.

@copybook realist–stop it now. I want pie. I need pie. Mmmmm, pie.

20 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Sour Cherry Pie!

20 10 2008
SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick

The New Yorker article on how SP was picked sure ‘splains it. It completely links her to Washington insiders and Republican controllers. I haven’t felt sorry for her yet, until I read this, and then just a teenie, tiny bit of sympathy crept in. She was totally had. Like the freshman girl who thinks she’s being taken on a date by senior football player only to find she’s been tricked into getting gangbanged by the whole team. . . Those Repub smartpantses totally gangbanged her. Picked her up and put her down. She wasn’t smart enough to know how far out of her league she really was– because a bunch of Republican journalists thought she was cute, she believed she could be VP.

I don’t understand how people keep saying how smart she is. Not one thing in this woman shows any intelligence; just blind ambition, feminine wile, sociopathic lying and manipulation of people — and a whole lotta witch doctor.

How Palin was Picked http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=5

20 10 2008
shilo442

@ anonymous,
You are so right, I wonder how many people know that we are NOT at war with Irq but a lot think we are, they don’t have the foggiest idea what we’re doing over their. But we are not at war with Iraq.

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Was Palin a member of the Harper Valley PTA?

20 10 2008
copybook realist

Cynthia, TX

We are semi American

20 10 2008
rf11

cynthia, I agree that this Pro vs. Anti American is ridiculous. It’s frightening to think that these right wingnuts could actually be in positions of power.

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA (19:36:09) :

Lacy Lady,
I agree with you, extreme right wing, fundamentalist Christians remind me of the Taliban. Given the slightest chance they would have it be mandatory to be Christian in this country, that is really what they want. No choice, no other religions, just all Christians all the time.

Well, actually. Just “real” Christians all the time…no Christians outside their narrow parameters need apply.

hHh

20 10 2008
Lana, KY

More unbelievable cruelty & contempt in N.C.
A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/10/20/more-ugliness-in-nc.aspx

20 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

What do her educator parents have to say about this?
______________

Her ‘educator’ parents are obviously a little lacking in the ethics department too as daddy sits surrounded by all the dead animals he has killed and had no problems, apparently, helping his ex-son-in-law butcher and eat the moose which was finally put out of its misery by the ‘evil’ son-in-law.

These people seem to be terribly empty inside – it’s all about them and the rest of the world be damned.

And I don’t for a moment think that RoboProp will scoot back to Alaska with her devil’s forked tail between her legs. This lady is the female ‘terminator’ – she will bulldoze her way to Washington no matter how long it takes and no matter who she has to step on to get there. She reminds me of the robot character the Yul Brynner played in ‘Westworld’ – the evil energizer bunny.

20 10 2008
maryjblog

It’s clear that Palin and her family only sanction marriage for couples who are capable of procreation – preferably, in fact, couples who have already BEGUN procreating.

Thank goodness for Colin Powell, the last honest Republican. He said what all of the others are thinking, but dare not say.

20 10 2008
Southernbelle

Thanks AKM, thanks everyone. I do appreciate your kind suggestions. I’m usually up on the New Yawker but somehow missed this one. As for Miz Sarah’s homophobia anybody see the front page of the Sunday New York Times with her “fan” base?–young white guys who appear to be somewhat akin to skinheads–scary, scary. I’ve been thinking a lot about why these people are attracted to her and my inner Dalai Lama points out that these people are frightened and maybe living on the edge and without a decent education and being horribly manipulated. Change is more than an election and I’m trusting that Obama and Biden are clear about that. Late here in the northeast. Thanks again.

20 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Upnorth, yep you’re right not even just Christians but only the “right kind” of Christians. So as narrow as I painted it it wasn’t narrow enough.

20 10 2008
rf11

Sandiego MJCH Surfchick, you summed up Palin well: “Not one thing in this woman shows any intelligence; just blind ambition, feminine wile, sociopathic lying and manipulation of people — and a whole lotta witch doctor.”

I also posted a link to the New Yorker article, as did one other Mudpuppy. It’s quite informative, but unlike you, I couldn’t muster a bit of sympathy for Palin because of her arrogance and smug attitude.

20 10 2008
loreenwl

Given the slightest chance they would have it be mandatory to be Christian in this country, that is really what they want. No choice, no other religions, just all Christians all the time.

Only their brand of Christianity. Mine doesn’t count.

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick (19:42:51) :

The New Yorker article on how SP was picked sure ’splains it. It completely links her to Washington insiders and Republican controllers. +++++++++++++++++++++++

Palin vigorously courted the media and Washington Repubs. She is driven. Beneath the Aw Shucks hockey mom lurks a woman willing to do anything, or so it seems by her actions.

20 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter (19:12:49) :

i’m just not sure where i live anymore..!

*********************

According to Joe the McCain, you’re in Soviet Virginia.😉

20 10 2008
maryjblog

Sue said:
“She certainly is a pit bull; McCain sends her out to do all the attacking while he hides behind her skirts; what a coward he is!”

I agree that he’s a coward, but I think he’s using her as a shill because he considers her disposable. Men like McCain like to pretend they are Progressive by hiring a woman, when in actuality they’re just looking for somebody to blame when things go wrong.

20 10 2008
Pursang

My question for the Alaskans is did she give any indication of her true nature? I know Alaska is a Red State but I can’t imagine mainstream Alaskan Republicans agreeing with the hate and intolerance she’s spewing.

Can she recover her political career after her performance on the national stage? Personally I hope not but people seem to have short memories nowdays so anything is possible.

20 10 2008
NSWFM

My 72 year old dad went to poll worker training today in California AFTER he went to the county government center and changed his party registration from Independent to DEMOCRAT!

He was a Republican until 2000, changed to Independent in 2004 and now is a Dem!

I was a decline to state from the time I was 18 until 2000 when I saw GWB was running and incapable of speaking coherently and changed to Dem to make sure I was able to vote for Gore.

Yea, Dad!

I’m going to have my parents and sister send Obama’s grandma a card thanking her for raising such a good guy and helping the world be a better place. ALSO.

20 10 2008
Tired of racism Mom

Another long day, have again spent too much time on my computer following the lively conversation here. I am sooo addicted. Must get some sleep so I won’t be too bleary eyed tomorrow when I read all the overnight posts.

Good night Mudpuppies, AKM, Brian and Brenda, sleep well.

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin), woo-hoo! (Terrorist) Fist bump to ya. We have paper ballots, too. This is one time I like paper better than computers.

I am American, the last time I checked.

20 10 2008
rf11

maryjblog, McCain’s history is that he picks women who are the beauty queen types. There’s no way he would have picked Palin otherwise.

20 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (19:52:18) :

@Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter (19:12:49) :

According to Joe the McCain, you’re in Soviet Virginia.
_____________

ROTFLMAO!

20 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

ColoradoHusseinGal (19:41:26) :

This is OT, but I just read a very disturbing story on Huffington Post:

“A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.”
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200881020067

It is so sad that this bear cub had to pay with its life for the ignorance of some “supposedly” humans.

Sickening. Disgusting. Poor animal.

I’d like to contribute some humour to this thread. Tina Fey does SP very well, but Lisa Nova is also very funny in her SP impersonations. Here she is with Ralph Nader:

20 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Remember she didn’t “blink” when she was asked.

20 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

I don’t think McCain is using Palin. After reading that most informative New Yorker article, it seems that the ‘pundits’ had already decided that Mccain wasn’t going anywhere. I think this campaign is all about getting Sarah ready for 2012 and McCain is the one being used by the Bill Kristols of the world – those pasty-pussed sexless little toads whose only joy in life comes from cold control and manipulation.

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Cynthia, TX (19:41:36) :

I want to know on this blog who is Pro America or who is Anti America? We need to know so we can get you removed from this blog!
+++++++++++

As I live in California, I am highly suspect. But must remind you that in spite of the Hollywood celebrities and wine fields and happy cows, CA has produced 2 Repub Presidents.

20 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@AZtopcat (19:41:01) :

Hello fellow mudpuppies. This afternoon I spent 3 hours training to be a poll worker in Arizona. I made an observation that there are numerous volunteers who are Senior citizens and are extremly fearful of the technology being used.
MInd you I am no spring chicken soon to be 56 so Iam not being critical. I see an extreme need for competent poll workers so if you can volunteer a day which you will be paid , while it is a rather long day your support I am sure will be deeply appreciated no matter where you live. Please give this some serious consideration for we do not want mistakes at the polls on Nov. 4th.

This was a problem in the last election, too – and look how it turned out!

20 10 2008
Bea

Vlad the I’m HUSSEIN Palin (19:46:38) :

“RoboProp ”

_____

*gigglesnort* That’s HI-larious!

20 10 2008
Lee

Hello, All.

Obamas’ wife Michelle will step in and do his stump speeches. She is good, and that will certainly help. Like all of you have said, we send our prayers, and hope for the best.

20 10 2008
rf11

pursang, given the environment in Alaska when she ran, she probably didn’t have to spew hate. She was the reformer, fighting corruption, running against the incumbent, considered the worst governor ever.

Palin seems fine with saying whatever serves her ambitions at the moment. I get the feeling that she rationalizes her lies and manipulations because she thinks deep down that her being in power is God’s Will.

20 10 2008
DrChill

McCains choice has really burned my brocolli with her latest.
She responded to a protester by saying her son is in Iraq firhting for your right to protest.
a: He went to Iraq for other reasons,

20 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Ok maybe I am party crasher but I just don’t get why Palin was such a “sizzle” on SNL. She didn’t do anything and she looked so uncomfortable being there. Did I miss something? or maybe I just don’t get it.

20 10 2008
Observer aka Rankle Hiway

I would like to say that I don’t think it’s such a good idea to flood Barack’s grandma’s home with get well cards.

At this time the family doesn’t need to be dealing with piles of cards from strangers, however lovingly meant. She is probably too sick to read or enjoy them. I see it as just one more thing for them to deal with when they are already in a state of great concern.

Better a thought left on the Obama website.

20 10 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

In case you haven’t seen this older Lisa Nova SP impersonation, enjoy:

20 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Vlad the I’m HUSSEIN Palin (19:58:06) :

I don’t think McCain is using Palin. After reading that most informative New Yorker article, it seems that the ‘pundits’ had already decided that Mccain wasn’t going anywhere. I think this campaign is all about getting Sarah ready for 2012
———-

Vlad, The Alaskan people are our (lower 49) only hope of ending this women’s political career, or I’m afraid your right. But on the other hand if Palen is the best they have it will be Obama/12!

20 10 2008
Pursang

BTW, Republicans will never overturn Roe v. Wade or outlaw gay marriage. Why, because they need these wedge issues in each and every election so they can get their remaining base out to vote. They talk a good game but the minute they get rid of those two issues they would never win another election.

Given their performance over the last 8 years they might not win many elections ever again but they’ll always keep those wedge issues. It’s what keeps certain people voting Republican, voting against their best interests.

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

Cynthia, TX (19:41:36) :

I want to know on this blog who is Pro America or who is Anti America? We need to know so we can get you removed from this blog!
—-
I’m afraid I’d qualify as hopelessly anti-American, maybe even dangerous. I’m retired now, but used to “profess” gender studies, cultural studies, multicultural studies and feminist theory. Plus (oops, also) just finished the late Paul Wellstone’s book, Conscience of a Liberal. Should I book my flight to Siberia? the Gulag?

hose Hussein hotrod

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Interesting that the party of Palin wants to check everyone’s americanism but she’s spent all those years palling around with an anti-American secessionist.

Why don’t we send her off to Iraq and keep her kid here stateside? He could probably use additional growing up time without her around to mess up his adulthood. And the warring Iraqi factions would probably settle their petty squabbles PDQ just to get her the hell out of their country.

whataplan… wish I’d thought of it 2000 days ago.

20 10 2008
Bea

Observer aka Rankle Hiway (20:03:52) :

I would like to say that I don’t think it’s such a good idea to flood Barack’s grandma’s home with get well cards.
___

Don’t worry, the address is for the Obama’s HI headquarters, not her home.

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Teresa (18:31:15) :

Drop her a card
===============================
Just finished writing the card and will mail it in the morning.
Bless you for the address.

20 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Cynthia – people tuned in hoping she’d mess up big time, but they left their tv sets greatly disappointed. She didn’t get why they watched, either.

20 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Two more weeks of these ads on TV…..meh!

20 10 2008
AZtopcat

Over the weekend I went to see the movie W. While it wasn’t really an eye opener it showed how inept our current president is and I came away feeling sorry for our country, to think we elected him twice. No wonder we are ill thought of throughout the world. We can never let this happen again. Do what ever you can to help Obama get elected because we need the smart guy to dig us out of the mess we are in.

20 10 2008
Kat Loves Wolves Hussein aka Kat in FLA

Does anyone know what is wrong with Obama’s Grandma? I mean is she terminally ill, is it something she can recover from? She just has to see this happen, it’s too sad to think she might miss this by 2 weeks.

20 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Getting back to that ‘very informative’ New Yorker article (which i hope everyone emails on to everyone they know), what struck me is that the ‘pundits’ who travelled to Alaska were men, the ‘pundits’ who pushed her to be the VP pick were men (well………….not really men, more like Elwood Eunichs), and the telling factor was all rolled up in that one Billy-Boy Kristol’s comment of “She’s my heart-throb”. No women appeared to be ‘in’ on this decision – it was the choice of, what phrase best describes it? Oh, I know ! – The ‘good ole boys from Washington’. What a HUGE farce. And they are playing their ‘supporters’ like a well-tuned violin. I think someone needs to tell the sheeple that they have been served a ‘sucker punch’ – a toxic cocktail indeed.

20 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Witching hour here. Will tape Larry King rebroadcast but must read Mad Dog Palin in Rolling Stone. Uses words like reptilian villainy about YKW.

And so to bed.

Or as SP would say – and so to bed also.

Good night pups and Brian and Brenda.

20 10 2008
rf11

Palin Pity Party, you raise an excellent point! She and Tad (as my hubby calls him) have obviously been palling around with anti-Americans.

20 10 2008
DrChill

grrr bad click.

McCain’s choice has really burned my broccoli with her latest.
She responded to a protester by saying her son is in Iraq fighting for your right to protest.
a: He went to Iraq for other reasons,
b: this is another new reason to be in Iraq, after WMDs, regime change, stability in the middle east, a permanent base there, oil, Iraqi freedom… and
c: she trots out her family into the spotlight for her political purposes, but wants no one else to comment on her kids…
Which is it Int the public eye or out
Political football ( hockey puck) or not ?

Here are a couple of clips:

Her son is in Iraq fighting for your right to protest.

Veterans gave you your rights.
Oops wrong loud crowd !

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

Well, that story about the dead bear cub was just nauseating.

There’s no doubt in my mind, it’s some veiled attempt at making people think this is what they’ll do to Obama.

Lets hope that Grissom is able to solve this horrid crime within his usual 42 minutes and get them to confess.

This will go down in history as the ugliest presidential campaign ever. 100 years from now, smart people will still be analyizing McFailin and how much they did to hurt America.

When John Lewis said he reminded him of George Wallace, the sad part was he was insulting Wallace. He’s reminding of more famous people.. Mussolini, Hitler and Son of Sam. Just vile and evil.

Why not change that sign to White Christian People First. Those are clearly the only ones McFailin care about.

20 10 2008
SanDiego Muslim Jew Christian Hindu Surfchick

The Repub Choosers thought they had another W. on their hands with SP– that she could be made into Their Political Fantasy Candidate. They were swept up in the romance of Alaska, had no idea how to vet a woman/mother, and just let their dipsticks run their brains. Let’s hope that with all AKM’s work when SP comes home, the Alaskan people will have had enough. AKM has pulled back Wizardess of Alaska-Oz’s curtain, and what’s back there is not pretty.

20 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Do what ever you can to help Obama get elected because we need the smart guy to dig us out of the mess we are in.
_______________

I think we can only hope he changes the direction of the ship. It’s up to us to (wo)man the oars and row steady.

20 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

@Cynthia, TX (20:03:07) :

Ok maybe I am party crasher but I just don’t get why Palin was such a “sizzle” on SNL. She didn’t do anything and she looked so uncomfortable being there. Did I miss something? or maybe I just don’t get it.
———
I believe SNL hit the high numbers game because of 3 groups of viewers regular snl fans/Repug Palin fans/ and those of us who were so pleased to see her do a one craptastic job. It was bad.

Here is a story to cheer you up.
Sarah Palin’s SNL a Strategic Disaster

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-kubey/sarah-palins-snls-apperan_b_135890.html

20 10 2008
Pursang

Thanks for the insight rf11

I would be classified as anti-American. I live in Maryland though in a Red portion of a Blue Region of a Blue State. I am surrounded by neighbors who proudly have McCain signs in their yards.

The person across the street has a “Veterans for McCain” sign up. Being retired from the Coast Guard I want to ask him if he knew how bad McCain’s record is on Vets issues as well as the POW situation. Sadly I never see them outside and I really don’t feel like knocking on their door.

I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but after seeing these rabid dogs at McCain and Palin rallies I tend to want to steer clear of people who have bumper stickers on their cars or signs in their yards. You never know how unbalanced they may be and to be honest I’m so irritated by the lying and dishonesty shown by these two that I don’t feel very charitable to their supporters right now.

Anyway, it’s a quarter past midnight so it’s time to hit the bed. Six A.M. comes awfully early.

Night all….

20 10 2008
ira2

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (19:55:32) :

[…] woo-hoo! (Terrorist) Fist bump to ya. […]

My all-time favorite (yardsale) t-shirt had a design on the front that looked like a round decal. In the middle was an old-fashioned line drawing of an old-fashioned sewing machine… the curved text on the top round said “Ladies’ Sewing Circle” and on the bottom was “and Terrorist Society”. Thankfully, it wore out just before 9/11, but I wish I could resurrect it somehow just to go with the current insanity. Besides, it was such a pretty design!

20 10 2008
rf11

Vlad, as one of my colleagues said today, it appears that Palin lit their sparklers. On Morning Joe today, Lawrence O’Donnell, of all people, spoke about how Palin affects men when they meet her in person. He said she is much more attractive in person than on camera.

I thought back to Alec Baldwin’s script on SNL, which fit perfectly with Lawrence O’Donnell’s description of what happens when men meet Palin in person.

BLECH! Just the thought of that slimy Bill Kristol and scumbag Dick Morris make me feel nauseaus.

20 10 2008
annie

Did anyone see the article in Huffington questioning her tattooed lip line? This clip sure makes me a believer. What a narssisist (sp).

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

please note i’ve decided how Pro I am.. I’ve made my decision.. i’m sticking to it..

20 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken (20:15:36) :

Well said…

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

DonnaInMichigan

Hey, that’s mean! We don’t want her back! You lower 48ers have to think of something to do with her! ha!
=================================
I’m certain we could, but isn’t lynching illegal in most states?

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

Well, i thought i was.. ,maybe i am now

20 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

The Palin-McCain campaign will go down as the worst run presidential campaign in American history at the close of the worst run presidency in American history. The Bush-Cheney presidency and the Palin-McCain campaign spells the end of the Conservative Right as we know it. The GOP will need to spend the next 10 years in retreat rebuilding their platform on the commonalities of the American people versus divisions based on race, sexual orientation and hate.

The GOP needs to take into account the new brand of evangelical religious leaders like Tammy Faye and Jimmy Baker’s Boy of “One Punk Under God” reality TV fame. Here is a young American religious leader that has lived the underbelly of the evangelical world. He has come to terms with the central doctrine of Christiantiy i.e. “God is love” and applied that to his theology insofar as endorsing gay rights and the on-going wars against poverty and racism.

Until the GOP gets off the race-and-hate baiting of Karl Rove they will continue to struggle to attract the younger generation of evangelicals that rage against their parents’ self-righteous, hypocritacal, fear-mongering, war-mongering, hate-mongering, greed-favoring, rich-appeasing fake religion and intolerance. I grew up half of my childhood in one of these wacked-out evangelical households. Never understood what these nuts were saying and why. Went out to study theology for myself and realized that the liberation stuff is the good stuff.

I have been an independent for last 21 years of my adult life, and I have never been “moved” by a president or presidential candidate until I heard Barack Obama speak in Las Vegas. Obama has been able to transform his liberal theology inform his political platform in such a way that gives overreaching hope to a new generation of voters. If John McCain truly believed in his campaign slogan “Put Country First,” he would realize that the Karl Rove politics of hate, fear and race-baiting is passe and that it is time to pass the baton to the next generation.

“John mccain, for the good of the country it is time that you put an end to your presidential bid, denounce the dishnorable campaign you led, and concede the contest announcing Barack Obama the next President of the United States!”

20 10 2008
A Nana from Alaska

The base is smackin’ their lips and rubbin’ their bellies. They are insatiable! More fear-mongering on that pastry please.

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Cynthia, TX, most people said she wasn’t very good and that it didn’t help the campaign at all. So true.

@Pursang, well said. If the Republicans didn’t have anything to fight against, they wouldn’t know how to define themselves. Excuse me for the sweeping generalization, but it seems to me that the Republicans are more AGAINST things and the Democrats are more FOR things.

@Dr. Chill, she has said this before. Apparently, she doesn’t understand that it is one of our rights–protesting, I mean. We shouldn’t have to fight for that.

I just want one reporter to stop and ask her to define socialism. I would love to hear her response.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

awwww snow leopards cubs on letterman..

20 10 2008
Augie

ira2,
You can find another shirt like that at
http://www.northernsun.com
I get their catalog and have never been to the website, but no doubt it’s the same merchandise. They’ve got lots of good stuff.

20 10 2008
LA

Evening Mudpuppies!
You all have been busy tonight..took me awile to catch up.
This is really OT…but has anybody been getting Robocalls?
Are they always recorded messages?

20 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin) (19:42:29) :

Sour Cherry Pie!

Oh, YUM!!

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Pursang (19:55:03) :
Can she recover her political career after her performance on the national stage? Personally I hope not but people seem to have short memories nowdays so anything is possible.
++++++++++++++

Ummm, at least 2 Repubs have been in dreadful sex scandals and remain in Congress. The only reason this matters is their actions typified HYPOCRISY even as they spout family values. And it seems the Repubs in Congress and voting do not care. Also, don’t cha know, you can pray away the gay.

So yeah, Palin will have a career. It’s just that you and all the Mudflatters WILL remember. Mud-elephants we will be, running amok and trampling what we can.

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

SHOUT OUT! (reposting this from a previous thread.)

If there are Minnesota mudflatters interested gathering somewhere central to all, please check in at

upnorthminn@gmail.com

of course nearby dakotans or wisconsinites are also welcome.

so far we are three: ira2, asianhusseingrrl, and myself. anyone else??

hose Hussein hotrod

20 10 2008
rf11

I live in Florida, a previously red, but leaning blue, state. However, I live in a solidly blue county of the state. It’s an urban area, a county which actually has twice the population of the state of Alaska (aka not a small town). My kids go to a public school filled with lots of students whose parents and/or grandparents were not born in America.

I’m pretty sure I am in an anti-American area in the Palin looking glass.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

Anyone get Barbies robocall? After saying she didn’t think she liked them she did her own.. not as horrid as the others.. but she still did one..

Kinda funny..

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

LA (20:30:10) :

Evening Mudpuppies!
You all have been busy tonight..took me awile to catch up.
This is really OT…but has anybody been getting Robocalls?
Are they always recorded messages?
++++++++++++

Palin robocalls are following a live volunteer call. A one-two punch. You betcha.

20 10 2008
ira2

Deuce2 AL (20:25:29) :

DonnaInMichigan

Hey, that’s mean! We don’t want her back! You lower 48ers have to think of something to do with her! ha!
=================================
I’m certain we could, but isn’t lynching illegal in most states?

Hey, it’s 25 degrees here at 11:30 p.m., it’s gonna be a chilly night later on… send her up here and I’ll stand her somewhere in the swamp to rally the cattails :o)

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

If you’re not a Repug, you’re anti-American.

I’ve decided to forego being pro-american and am settling for pro-popeyes..

call me a traitor, but it’s just good spicy fried chicken.. attack if you insist, but please at least send a few pieces of chicken..🙂

20 10 2008
BS

I’m thinking about going to AFN convention on Thursday. I live in Wasilla -anybody want to carpool – get a hotel room(s)? I think this is so important. I want to know how this shakes out. Please respond here.

20 10 2008
rf11

I’ve been following Stevens’ trial and can’t help but wonder about Palin’s own Housegate. Maybe when she comes home to you folks in Alaska, Housegate will keep her busy until she’s booted out of office.

20 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (20:28:58) :

I just want one reporter to stop and ask her to define socialism. I would love to hear her response.
*************************

She will have to go to http://www.dictionary.com

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

responsiblecitizen08 (17:49:44) :

What happened to letting the “states” decide? Why do republicans want states to decide on certain issues, but think we need the federal government to decide on others? That really bothers me.
++++++++++++++++++++

Also. Don’t cha know it just depends on what, you know, it’s all gotta be run by Pastor Murthee. And then. You know that wonderful Attorney General who covered the lady parts of that statue. God’s laws and all being the base of the constitution. Also.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

Cynthia, a reporter asking her a question???

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Cynthia, TX, or my fave:

onelook.com

Or, the tried and true, “I’ll have to get back to ya!” Wink.

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Wow you are soooo fast — am still behind one thead ( up all night on the 4th, party on the 5th, I’ll sleep on Nov. 6th)

Blue in MT (18:22:31) :
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (18:02:53) :
Here’s a bit on MT: we had a terrible Repub governor (Martz) and then Democrat Brian Schweitzer was elected in 2004, due to Martz’s poor perfromance. Conrad Burns (LONG-TIME US Senator) was affiliated with swindler Jack Abramoff and Burns was named one of the 13 most corrupt politicians in Washington. He was ousted by John Tester, Dem in 2006. MT and VA senator races were the turning point for Dems in the Senate.
So, I’d say that Montanans have had enough. Additionally, there are a large number of folks moving to Montana from traditionally blue areas. The eastern area (VERY rural & red) of the state is losing population to the west, which is quite a bit more liberal. Montana is ready for a CHANGE!
~~~~~~~~~~~
very true Blue — I forgot about Martz – what a dingbat
And I voted today too !!! Paper ballot

20 10 2008
califpat

Off topic:

I just wanted to share this wih you and see what you think. Yesterday my daughter attended church that my family has attended for years in San Bernardino, California. My husband and I recently moved about 45 minutes away and are looking for a new church home. This said, my daughter called me yesterday horrified. The pastor, who my family have always had much respect for, asked church members to meet him in the church auditorium if they wanted to discuss the coming election and/or get clarification on issuesand policies. My daughter rushed to the auditorium. She said that she looked around and noticed that there were mostly elderly people there and she was the youngest to attend. (She’s thirty something). She said one elderly lady was crying and saying that she had always voted Republican but was seriously thinking about voting for Obama. My daughter said that the pastor and his deacons jumped all over the elderly lady, telling her that they were all Republicans and that God would want her to vote for McCain because the Bible said that same-sex marriage was a sin and that was ahat the Obama campaign was all about. My daughter said they literally lectured these mostly elderly people on continuing to vote Republican without giving them any of the policies the two candidates were offering rhe people. My daughter was appalled that the pastor and the deacons were all Republicans when they do sermons teaching against the sins of lying and deceit. She was horrified that these men of the cloth were choosing to overlook that McCain and Palin were/are outright liars, hatemongers and are playing with fire when they whip their rallies up to hateful frenzies with lies of Obama being a terrorist and a Socialist. The pastor never informed these members that a vote for McCain would be a vote against what would be best for them economically. I am fuming. I told my daughter to find out if they were going to have another meeting so I could attend and voice my opinion. We are no longer members of that church, but I think that these church members should be informed about the issues and the policies so that they can make informed choices that will benefit themselves and America. I truly believe that these members are creatures of habit and will vote as they always have without facts, that the pastor should have given them. I told my daughter that I would consult with the Mudpuppies concerning what to do. Do you think we could flood the church with emails or phone calls? It still will not informed the members of the church about presidential candidates and what they are up against. What do you think?

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Annnnd, from dailykos, guess who else is a socialist? Ronald Reagan!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/20/17214/141/983/636678

20 10 2008
LA

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (20:33:48) :

Thank you for explaining. I have been getting alot of calls that roll over to the machine but no message. All my friends know to leave a message and I’ll call back. Today I get a call from Michigan..a live person… Its very odd. I’m in California.
YUCK……

20 10 2008
copybook realist

Hey all…lets go back to the happy days of the primaries…rainbows, butterflies and apple pie. Hillary and Barack were in the headlines…….good times.

For your enjoyment I link you a funny woman who did great Hillary impersonations…this was one of my favorites. I was so disappointed when she didn’t do the same with Palin, but I think that I understand it now. Hillary is “likeable enough”…Palin is…well…just a “skilled politician.

20 10 2008
Cynamen Hussein Alaska Blue

For those who would like to send Senator Obama’s grandmother a get well card, here his HI headquarters mailing address:

Mrs. Madelyn Dunham
In care of: Obama for America
Honolulu Headquarters
1050 Ala Moana Blvd Ste D2690
Honolulu, HI 96814

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/20/204939/79/721/636932

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Enjay in Eastern MT (20:42:39)

I LOVE Schweitzer. He rocked at the Dem convention. I listen everytime he is on the Ed Schultz Show. He is pragmatic, smart, and funny.

20 10 2008
Bea

califpat (20:42:48) :

Sure sounds like that pastor is playing fast and loose with the church’s tax-exempt status. I say call the local media and/or tax authorities and report them.

20 10 2008
ira2

califpat (20:42:48) :

Off topic:

I just wanted to share this wih you and see what you think. Yesterday my daughter attended church that my family has attended for years in San Bernardino, California. My husband and I recently moved about 45 minutes away and are looking for a new church home. This said, my daughter called me yesterday horrified. The pastor, who my family have always had much respect for, asked church members to meet him in the church auditorium if they wanted to discuss the coming election and/or get clarification on issuesand policies. […]

There were some comments about church and “politicking” in previous threads, can’t remember which, but it’s apparently against the law in some way. Hope somebody else remembers better than I do or knows more to post about this here.

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@califpat, I would go for a well-thought out reasonable letter (no calling them idiots, though that is what I would want to do). Also, they might want to know that they could lose their tax-exempt status if they are telling their parishioners how to vote. It’s a pesky thing called separation of church and state (which some pastors are suing over).

Other than that, is there a board of the church? I would contact them, too. This is unacceptable.

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

Has anyone checked out the Senate races lately? Just click on the Senate Poll page on the Electoral Vote map in the sidebar. Here’s a rundown: Minnesota is back to toss up with Franken and Coleman tied again (wtf!), but both Georgia and Mississippi (races that until recently weren’t expected to be close) have drawn much closer! (2 pts. and 1 pt. respectively); even Texas is now a horserace with just a 6 pt. spread. It’s looking like the 60 seat filibuster majority is a real possibility. By the way, if you want to contribute to any of the senate candidates in tight races, I think most of them are listed on the Daily Kos Orange to Blue page (where you can combine donations into one total). Here’s the link:

http://www.actblue.com/page/orangetoblue

hHh

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

I am pretty sure I am Pro-American — I have a passport ! Have been to Canada & Mexico and for the most part I like Americans

However, I do draw the line at those that think they are the “only Americans”

Bringing up another point ~ Cindy McC’s undeclared “half sister” died recently – don’t believe they attended the funeral since she always referred to herself as “only child” and John McC’s (family) has a family reunion anually in South Carolina (with decendents of former McC slaves) and he chooses not to attend

read more @ http://www.sfltimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2041&Itemid=42

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

I have decided that votes for Obama will end up way higher than polls.

Here’s my theory. People in traditionally red areas may feel peer pressure to admit they think McGrumpy is an idiot and Failin is worthless. Their friends and family all extoll the virtues of hatred, bigotry and all things GOP..

But, here’s the thing. Some Repugs are smart. Well, it’s a working theory, give me some slack. But some are and believe they just can’t vote for McFailin.. So, they tell everyone who listens they’re ‘DIEHARD McGrumpy’.. Oh God yes, I’m votin red across the board.. Michele Bachmann is my kinda woman.. Yessiree bob. I think I like Joe the Plumber, OBama’s a socialist terrorist..

Except, they don’t believe it themselves.. To keep harmony in that house loaded with guns, they say it. They tell momma and whoever daddy is they’re votin McGrumpy.. Scream it, wear his tshirts and his underwear, and go to his rallys..

But they’ve been reading secretly, places like Mudflats, but really, mainstream media, like the NYTimes or Wash Post. They can think. They don’t buy it.

They enter the voting booth, look to make sure no one can see in and push, press, punch Barack Obama.

They leave, and go outside and say ‘man, it was awesome votin for mccain.. lets go get some beer.

Obama in a landslide, winning 60% yet exit polls say he only got 45% of the vote. Either way, i’ll take it.. Obama in 2008..

I just think this will happen, how often? No clue.. but it will happen..!

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

LA (20:45:04) :

Ewww. On the bright side, might meant you haven’t been purged from the voter rolls.

Well, my Repub hubby was getting calls, local ones and they were leaving messages. Finally caught one live and told them he had surgery and really couldn’t participate this season, to please take us off their list. No local calls since.

There are many different rosters from which they make the calls.

20 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Maria Shriver on Larry King is good tonight (the first 45 minutes are a big waste of time) – Maria’s on for the last 15 minutes only.

20 10 2008
jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin

OK Guys, I’m kind of panicking tonight. I know it’s all crap, but a friend of mine is still repeating all this internet junk about how BO wants to change the flag and the pledge of allegiance to avoid offending some one or other, I didn’t even get it all. I just told him “that stuff is all BS’ and asked him to send me the links so I can see just what he’s looking at. At this late date in our VERY red state, people are still totally unquestioning of any rumor or innuendo that floats down the McCain sewer.

Surrounded as I am by TOTAL belief that Barack is a ‘radical’ I just get depressed. I see the polls and know it’s not the same everywhere and we only have 5 EC votes. But it still sucks. I’m like Rachel. I just need somebody to “Talk me down.”

20 10 2008
Bea

Marty,

That’s what I’ve been sayign about Joe the Not-Plumber too– that he’s going to get in the voting booth and think about the $1200 tax cut he’d get under Obama’s plan and then pull the lever for Barack… and never, never, never admit it.

20 10 2008
braveny

@califpat
let us know the name of the church and we can write some letters too.

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

ira2 (20:47:29) :

califpat (20:42:48) :

Oh yeah. Not supposed to endorse from the pulpit or else churches lose tax free status. Hasn’t seem to have been enforced except under Bush when it was thought to be a Dem endorcement.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

JWA.. read my post a few back and you can smile and admit you’re in that part of the club.. See if my post makes sense and if you can see those who i mention..

it’s going to be ok.. They can’t steal it this year..

20 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Does this help at all – jwa?:

NYT/CBS Poll: Obama Has Record High Favorability Rating

Barack Obama’s favorability “is the highest for a presidential candidate running for a first term in the last 28 years” of New York Times/CBS polls.

Meanwhile, the Times reports, Sarah Palin’s “negative rating is the highest for a vice-presidential candidate as measured by The Times and CBS News. Even Dan Quayle, with whom Mrs. Palin is often compared because of her age and inexperience on the national scene, was not viewed as negatively in the 1988 campaign.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/nytcbs-poll-obama-has-hig_n_136407.html

20 10 2008
Bea

jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin (20:54:07) :

Some good links for you to pass on to your misinformed friend:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

http://www.fightthesmears.com/

20 10 2008
LA

@califpat,
Do you know the Pastor well? Maybe a letter or as other have said…go the the Church Elder Board. Many years ago I left a church because of the Pastor bringing his political views on to his pulpit.
Not very Christian to bully your flock is it?

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (20:46:04) :

Enjay in Eastern MT (20:42:39)

I LOVE Schweitzer. He rocked at the Dem convention. I listen everytime he is on the Ed Schultz Show. He is pragmatic, smart, and funny.
—————-

He is great – quite popular, and good “straightforward” speaker. He doesn’t beat around the bush. He and Tester have a lot in common – I like Tester too. Even tho he’s a Jr senator. Baucus is more experienced politician – but for the most part seems to represent us well — Rehberg….. could do without – not one of my fav. people (and I’ve met him a few times)

20 10 2008
mmboucher (Florida)

I would like to know, was Palin the first governer to give rebates to Alaskans or was that a standard practice? Isn’t the larger amount she gave this year due to the high price of oil? I also read that your $40 billion had been reduced to $30 billion due to the stock market decline, does that mean you pay next year?

20 10 2008
SMR

As an Alaskan, living in Alaska for the time being (though not much longer), I have hopes that all of the -gates will lead to the end of Bible Spice’s political career.

Troopergate — the hijacking of truth & ethics by Bible Spice, her hubby, her Atty General, the “truth squad,” and the McCain legal thugs

Housegate — did she or didn’t she get her house built for free or at a reduced rate? This is bound to steam a lot of people, as housing prices here are incredibly high, and of course we can’t really let Ted Stevens go to trial without her doing so as well if it turns out that she’s done the same thing.

Per Diem Gate — apparently ADN had a story saying that the matter is being looked into by authorities. As far as I’m concerned, she should be paying the state if she chooses to live in her house in Wasilla instead of the big old house in Juneau… I hardly think she has any legit reasons for doing so, none that I’ve heard of, and that big od house that our tax dollars pay for sits there empty……………..

Baby Gate — Is baby Trig hers or not? Hmmmm. A baby in December might answer that question, but then perhaps not.

Did I miss any -Gates? Probably (so hard to keep track).

I do hope that if Wooten &/or Monegan decide to go to court to clear their names &/or sue the state or the Palins or whomever that the legal process would be such that other more incriminating details would/could come out.

I wouldn’t have been married to Wooten for love or money, but it is amazing how many people totally buy the b.s. that Bible Spice is spouting. They talk about him tasering his own kid and totally overlook the fact that the Spice’s sister was right there as well, so if charges would have been pressed the sister would have had to be charged too. And the moose thing, give me a break. If that, or worse, doesn’t happen every single day of the hunting season, I’ll pay Wooten myself! Of course it happened a bazillion years ago, and none of the Palin/Heaths had a problem with eating the meat, dressing out the moose, etc., until sis was in divorce court. The drinking & driving (while in squad car) was proven untrue. Meanwhile, Bible Dude has a DWI to his own credit. Bottom line is that I hope that he sues their asses off and drags the Bible Spice family through the mud. From the little that I know of legal stuff, it seems to me that he has a pretty good case for libel/slander.

Anyway, I like to think that this is the end of Bible Spice as a viable political figure, and that Alaskans will keep on fighting the good fight to get that hypocrite out of politics in Alaska for good, thereby saving the rest of the U.S. from her as well.

Pray for it, visualize it, whatever works!

20 10 2008
ira2

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (20:47:44) :

@califpat, I would go for a well-thought out reasonable letter (no calling them idiots, though that is what I would want to do). Also, they might want to know that they could lose their tax-exempt status if they are telling their parishioners how to vote. It’s a pesky thing called separation of church and state (which some pastors are suing over).

Other than that, is there a board of the church? I would contact them, too. This is unacceptable.

Thing is, they probably know about all this already and do it anyway in the assumption that nobody minds. To give them a nice warning letter or phone call would probably not have any effect other than making them take it more “undercover”. You know, church elders visiting church members at home for a nice, caring chat and things like that.

I personally am SO fond of those little cameras they use in undercover work at slaughterhouses and during hotel room politician bribes. Well, not of the cameras, but of the results. As a matter of fact, I thought about that back when Palin was doing her tightly regulated “interviews with main street people”. Unless it’s illegal, I’d think that many, many churches would make for a fruitful environment for truth&law hunters these days.

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

copybook realist (19:41:34)
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Very beautiful video. Thank you for the link. Sometimes I
wish I wasn’t so emotional. Loved it immensely.

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin (20:54:07) :

OK Guys, I’m kind of panicking tonight. I know it’s all crap, but a friend of mine is still repeating all this internet junk about how BO wants to change the flag and the pledge of allegiance to avoid offending some one or other, I didn’t even get it all. I just told him “that stuff is all BS’ and asked him to send me the links so I can see just what he’s looking at. At this late date in our VERY red state, people are still totally unquestioning of any rumor or innuendo that floats down the McCain sewer.
—————

snopes is very good at “the facts”

the other day there was some Repub pundit talking about Obama having “his own flag” – he was speaking from a stage in OHIO and it was the OHIO STATE FLAG along with the US Flag in the background …..

20 10 2008
Bea

OK, Muddies, I must try not to stay up all night again. This election is really encouraging my insomniac tendencies!

Remember to think good thoughts for Obama and his grammy.

Sweet dreams. See you back on the flats tomorrow!

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama, glad you got my email. I think Barkley is really mucking up the works locally. I like him, and I might even have voted for him in another year–but not this year.

@Vlad the I’m HUSSEIN Palin, who is she voting for? Her hubby endorsed McCain today.

You know what I’m for? Pie. I am pro-pie. Hoover had his chicken in every pot, so I think Obama should promise everyone a slice of his or her favorite pie.

20 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

We have seen the love – here on Mudflats, in hundreds of YouTube videos, and thousands of faces at the rallies. I strongly feel a majority of people will vote for Obama, and a good portion of that majority are madly in love with Obama and what he can do for our country.

Sadly, the wingnut, scary, haters will always be out there. As AKM has described – they’ve been fed their cookies and are getting nourished right now. But there is still a majority who want a change and have Obama hope.

We all want those haters to go back under their rocks and at least hibernate for a while. Maybe, even a few of them will feel the love after January and realize less hate is a good thing, for the world, and for themselves.

We can only hope.

20 10 2008
rf11

jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin, check out this link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls

Scroll down the page and enjoy all the blue “Obama +’s. Keep looking around and you’ll see that the polling numbers have been pretty consistent with Obama in the lead for a very long time. You are in the unfortunate position of being surrounded by the McCain crowd.

Just check RealClear for the latest polls each day and you’ll feel better.

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin (20:54:07) :

My Repub hubby believes what he wants about O and McPalin. Facts are irrelevant.

Don’t let it get you down. Shine your light where you can. Carefully.

Obama is a thoughtful man, perhaps the most intelligent person we will have had as President, should we be so lucky. And he is much too centrist for far left Dems. He is a pragmatist. The man grew up not really fitting in, so he understands what it means to successfully straddle. I don’t know if that is comforting to you. But you can’t change some minds with vagaries like facts.

Don’t despair. You are not alone even in your very red state. Probably it is not socially acceptable for people to come out of the closet for Obama or against McPalin.

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Off Topic
CNN Political is reporting:

McCain camp looking for way to win without Colorado

“While Iowa, New Mexico and Colorado are still officially listed as McCain target states, two top strategists and advisers tell CNN that the situation in those states looks increasingly bleak. Iowa and New Mexico always have been viewed as difficult races, but the similar assessment of Colorado reflects a dramatic shift for a campaign that had long counted on the state.

“Gone,” was the word one top McCain insider used to describe those three states.”

Read more @ //politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/20/mccain-camp-looking-for-way-to-win-without-colorado/

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

Marty—
I happen to agree with your theory, without all the drama (my you are a good story teller… have you thought of writing novels??) :0)

I’ve been saying for a long time now that there are plenty of regular republicans (who don’t, I guess, turn out to be the “real” republicans) — people like my husband, who feel betrayed by their party (by McCain’s numb brain, his sleaze, his choice of vp, his racist campaign), who feel robbed of a conservative vote they can make in good conscience, but who aren’t going to tell their fellow board members or golf chums that they’ve turned over to the dark side (which is actually the sunlit side as we all know it). And I believe this is a considerable amount of votes…enough to counter any Bradley effect and more.

I also think the tons of newly registered voters (which some say favor dems 3 to 1) haven’t been factored in to the polling, nor have the cell phone users, and I think pollsters are seriously underfactoring the youth (which they can’t quite be convinced are really going to turn out)…and let’s not forget the senior citizens who are every day more convinced they’ll lose medicare and social security under McCain, and for pete’s sake now there’s even a demographic group they’re calling ‘racists for Obama’ (folks who have sicko “ideas” about blacks but who will vote for Obama anyway because of the economy).

This is all just to say, I think the “L” word is very likely. Which doesn’t mean I’m going to be any less vigilant for the remaing two weeks. But my money’s on a landslide. There, I said it!

hose Hussein hotrod

20 10 2008
rf11

jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin, one more suggestion. Watch Colin Powell’s endorsement of Obama as often as you can. Powell said what the majority of Americans are thinking and feeling at this moment in history.

20 10 2008
LA

@SMR
How about a new “Gate” for when she comes back….Prison Gate…..:)

20 10 2008
jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin

Thanks for the encouragement. I can’t imagine how he can get 100,000+ to turn out for a rally in StLouis and not be heading for a huge day on 11-4. My wife and I were paging through his book again tonight and it just strikes me how CENTRIST

20 10 2008
BS

To JWA: I hear ya. I went to a local watering hole today and Joe Biden was on Ellen. The rednecks said “Football is on, why do we have to listen to politics?”
They all turned their eyes to the football game (there were two screens). Nobody cared about seeing the other point of view. But – I did the early voting thing and had my “I voted” sticker on my jacket. I made a point of saying you can vote early – and everyone I talked to said they didn’t care – they would just vote on Nov 4. So – if all democrats vote early maybe the lines will be so long on Nov 4 that all the republicans will become discouraged and not vote! I don’t know – just fantisizing – I think we will win anyway.

20 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein Pro Popeyes Chicken

Upnorth.. Thanks for the kind words..

if you wanna leave the fridgid north and move to VA, and dump the hubby, i can put the wife in the crawlspace and we can live happily ever after🙂

hahaha.. goodnight friends🙂

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Responding to an article about McC’s plane lands at Columbia Regional Airport in Missouri (with only 15 ppl waiting LOL)

This persons comment says it all:

I liked the quote from the lady who was “upset” so few people turned out. Well, maybe that should tell you something. I’m a small business owner (who is licensed and pays his taxes unless McCain’s friend Joe) who 100% supports Obama. I realize that I can’t sell my product unless people can afford to buy them. I’ve sat by and watch my 401K get drained, the rich get richer thanks my tax dollars bailing them out, and 8 years of this country turn its back on hardworking folks in favor of get-rich-quick schemes. So no, I’m not gathering at the airport to wave to McCain — I’m more worried about my families well-being and how we are going to survive. I don’t have time to listen to McCain tell me this is a “mental recession” and how Obama wants to turn us into socialists. I don’t have time for the lies, McCain, and many other people don’t have time for them either. If you have nothing better to do than to lie to us, just stay home. I drove 140 miles to see Obama on Saturday; I wouldn’t waste gas driving 5 miles to see McCain.

20 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@ira2, man, I would not want to get on your bad side! You are right. Much better to take it to the media, if you can and if you think it will make a difference. Still, a letter to the board would be good to have on record.

@jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin, also comfort yourself with the knowledge that there are a fleet of lawyers ready to work the polls (five thousand in FLA alone) to insure that ‘voting irregularities’ don’t occur. Obama filed a motion (or whatever) BEFORE the ACORN story broke about the Republicans nasty habit of suppressing votes. Obama is on the ball with all this. He has been put through hell and back in the primaries, and I think he has the intelligence, the guile, and the willpower to forge through.

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

You have gotta see the Wasilla segment on the Daily Show tonight. You betcha. AIP on the show. Guy says Todd was a member. And AIP don’t like the lower 48.

Thanks to all the Alaskans that endure us Lower 48ers hangin’ out in Mudflats.

20 10 2008
rf11

After watching the Repugs steal the election in 2000, I won’t be able to relax until the votes are counted and Obama has won. The consistency in the polling numbers tells me, however, that Obama will win.

20 10 2008
SMR

The additional money given out (the $1200) was because the state savings account had a lot of money in it, and was given out to assist Alaskans with the high energy costs. The regular PFD (about $2000) this year was based on a calculation that took into account the huge amount in the savings account. The savings account was huge because the price of oil has been high for a long time. Now anyone who is in the oil industry could tell you that that was not going to last forever (someone like me who’s lasted through a couple of cycles of oil industry layoffs, the last one less than 10 years ago when the price of oil was $10 per barrel). Anyone in the know within the Alaskan oil industry could explain to you the reason that it does not help the oil producers in AK for oil prices to be so high, since Bible Spice adjusted the taxes, and higher prices mean disproportionately higher taxes (it’s very complicated, and my husband is the expert on that piece).

Anyway, there was a minority of Alaskans who were quite vocal about not wanting the stupid $1200 handed out to everyone. Bottom line is that A) If you’re going to spend all of that money for energy purposes, spend it to benefit everyone in the short and long term (more buses, rail transit, energy-efficient housing modifications, the list goes on & on), B) it was inevitable that the oil prices would come down at some point meaning less money in the coffers, C) within AK the hardships caused by high energy prices are significantly greater as you get farther from Anchorage, so it does not seem right to “assist” in energy costs at the same rate for someone in Anchorage as for someone in the Bush, and D) most ridiculously this stupid rebate was given out to every single eligible Alaskan — so explain to me why a household of 6 needs more money to heat their house than a household of 1? Same house, same heating needs. Granted, 4 are likely to generate more electrical usage, perhaps (but not necessarily) more fuel needs, but it’s a bit of a stretch.

It was a handout, plain & simple, buying votes. And now that we know she’s been entertaining grander political dreams since last year (if not for years & years) it does not seem outside the realm of possibility that she handed out that money with just that thought in mind. There are a lot of people who are willing to overlook her transgressions because they imagine that she’s so benevolent & generous. Surprise for them — our savings account has already lost $10 billion, the local natural gas supplier has raised rates 22%, and our supply of pork is sure to come to an end thanks to Bible Spice & Uncle Ted, all of which means that everyone here can look forward to teeny little PFDs in the future, and PERSONAL INCOME TAX in the not so distant future. Can I say that Alaskans are disproportionately uninformed (I’m trying to be nice here)? Well, I’m saying it anyway, and it should come as no surprise to you all since you have Alaskans to thank for Bible Spice as a potential VP…

20 10 2008
jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin

Thanks for the encouragement. I can’t imagine how he can get 100,000+ to turn out for a rally in StLouis and not be heading for a huge day on 11-4. My wife and I were paging through his book again tonight and it just strikes me how CENTRIST he is. Mc/P are calling him a socialist and when you read his words he is just SO reasonable. This man is the least radical person in the race.

I just get bummed out thinking about how the Repugs will do anything to find a way to steal this election. I won’t be able to breathe until Nov 5. I’m thinking of the old joke – Better a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. If Obama loses, I may opt for the frontal lobotomy.

20 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

Marty–
Hmmm. The part about leaving the frigid north sounds pretty good!🙂

G’night all!

hHh

20 10 2008
rf11

SMR, speaking of Palin making her bed and having to lie in it, I’ve often thought back to her first lines about the Bridge to Nowhere…”if we Alaskans wanted a bridge, we’d build it ourselves!”

Surely, the earmarks she had sought and secured occurred to her as she spouted these lies. She obviously thinks she can get away with anything. I betcha when she returns to Alaska she will continue pursuing earmarks just as she did before her 15 minutes of fame. Also.

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

ira2 (20:34:51)
========================================
Your post reminds me of a song that I really like. “PROP ME UP
BESIDE THE JUKEBOX WHEN I DIE”. At that temp, I am sure you
could find a good place to “PROP HER UP”, doncha reckin?

20 10 2008
ira2

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (21:16:54) :

@ira2, man, I would not want to get on your bad side! You are right. Much better to take it to the media, if you can and if you think it will make a difference. Still, a letter to the board would be good to have on record.

LOL! Yeah, I’m not very good about being nice to people who spit in my soup. And a bunch of holier-than-thous breaking the law to further their own personal agenda are spitting in my soup. Especially since this involves elderly people. There’s no difference in my mind between people badgering the elderly to buy stuff over the phone and people badgering the elderly to vote one way only.

Letter on record though, good point.

20 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

What was the saying …. Those that don’t learn from the past are bound to repeat it? Don’t think McC remembers yesterday much less 8 yrs ago. Wonder if his voting history is programmed into his “blackberry”

Wasn’t it “Spreading the Wealth” Eight Years Ago with the Bush Tax Cuts for America’s Wealthiest 1%?

“”Was it not a redistribution of wealth eight years ago when President Bush took billions out of the tax pool and gave it back to America’s richest citizens? Was that an act of socialism? Or is it only socialism when the little guy benefits? Republicans can’t have the argument both ways. If raising taxes on the rich is considered socialism, then lowering their taxes is also a redistribution of wealth.

The irony of McCain’s “spread the wealth” attacks is that he is an ardent supporter of not just the $1-trillion quasi-nationalization of America’s banking and financial industries, but also wants to “redistribute” our tax dollars to subsidize homeowners by buying their troubled mortgages and refinancing them back to them at more favorable rates. Wait, doesn’t that make McCain a…socialist? “”

read more @ //ostroyreport.blogspot.com/2008/10/funny-wasnt-it-spreading-wealth-eight.html

20 10 2008
mhrt oregon

NEW POST

20 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Maria Shriver is voting Obama all the way.
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Did I miss any -Gates? Probably (so hard to keep track). – Yes, you forgot the I-spent-mega-bucks-on-my-husband’s-contractor-friends-to-overcharge-for-redecorating-the-governor’s-mansion-gate.
_______________________

CNN Political is reporting:

McCain camp looking for way to win without Colorado

They should report that “McCain camp looking for way to win without votes”

20 10 2008
Krystal

I feel dirty. I went to check out Fixed News to see what their take on Obama’s grandmother being sick was. I guess I was just hoping for validation that all Republicans are not evil. I was shaken at some of the crap written on that message board. You don’t have to agree with him or even like him, but can’t you find some sympathy in your soul for what the man is going through. Instead, there was some major bs about him having to go defend his friggin’ birth certificate in some lawsuit. What a waste of teaxpayers money for heaven’s sake. I just wanted to see some compassion from the other side.

I’m of the mind that we do need two parties to balance each other and not all republicans are evil. I will even give them blind credit and admit that I think not all the people who attend Mccain and Palin rallies are loco. If you watched the people in the back of the famous, “He’s an arab” clip, you could see alot of people almost rolling their eyes. Many probably support Mccain for real and valid reasons and I can respect that though I don’t agree.

But if Fixed News really inspires that level of ignorance and hatred, the really should be disbanded. I just have to keep reminding myself that most people are good and decent in this world, no matter what their party.

20 10 2008
ira2

Deuce2 AL (21:24:42) :

ira2 (20:34:51)
========================================
Your post reminds me of a song that I really like. “PROP ME UP
BESIDE THE JUKEBOX WHEN I DIE”. At that temp, I am sure you
could find a good place to “PROP HER UP”, doncha reckin?

You betcha. She wouldn’t be bothered by the temperature if she was dressed for it, of course, but being propped up in the icy swamp with nothing but that cute little suit on would probably cool her hot heels a bit. Taking this scenario further just for its bedtime story potential, let’s say she’d start hollering.

“Hello! Also!! I am here, here I am, will somebody please come get me out of this swamp?!”

Just the thing the bears have been waiting for. And the wolves. How’s that for a fairytale? :o)

20 10 2008
rf11

Enjay in Eastern MT, I agree. McCain’s campaign is pathetic. They go from one ridiculous political gimmick to the next, which is why he surely does appear erratic.

You can tell that McCain’s internal poll numbers are not good by just listening to their rhetoric. The “Obama is a terrorist” didn’t work, so now they’re pulling out the “Obama is a socialist commie” stuff.

Apparently, his campaign staff have no ability to make data-based decisions. Look at the polls. The voters aren’t impressed.

20 10 2008
Krystal

Oh, one other thing. I just thought I would mention one thing about Palin. Mind you, I really don’t like the woman but I think we should lay the whole is she or isn’t she Trig’s mother etc, etc to rest. I was leading a tour group one day and low and behold guess who was walking up the street on the other side. Palin was walking with Piper and had Trig strapped to her chest. They were talking and laughing, just like any mother and daughter. I use that picture to remind myself that noone is the evil incarnate no matter how fun it is to pretend sometimes. I just mention this because I think we should maybe knock off comments on her mothering skills, at least here on this wonderful board with people of like minds. We can never really know what kind of mother she is, so let’s respect that and talk about the issues that really matter, like her being ethically challenged. I just mentioned that because I don’t want to ever to appear to be like people on that board. We are better then that and what we believe in is better than that. Everything else, however, is fair game in my opinion….

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Krystal (21:34:47) :

I feel dirty. I went to check out Fixed News
+++++++++++++++++

One day I was doing my part by going to all the Red State papers and commenting on articles. Try it some time, just be prepared for lots of registering. Anyhoo, I wound up on FOX making a comment. It never showed up even though I kept checking. Then I realized they had slightly altered my name and comment so that it was suitable to their take on things. I like to have SPIT. I wrote complaint after complaint. Never showed up. In my experience, FOX is not ethical or honest.

20 10 2008
j-straight arrow

JUST ANOTHER INDICATOR THAT PALIN IS AS DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS! THE IDEOLOGY OF MARRIAGE WAS CONSTITUTED IN EARLY CIVILIZATION IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE BIRTH RIGHT OF THE CHILDREN BORN TO “ONE MAN”-HENCE THERE WOULD BE NO QUESTION AS TO WHOM THE CHILD BELONGED TO-WOMEN WERE LITTLE MORE THAN CHATTLE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE INDICATOR AS TO MARRIGE IN AND OF IT BEING A PART OF THE LAW OF THE LAND. THAT WAS MANS CREATION. I AM ALWAYS AMAZED AT HOW REALLY IGNORANT THAT DUMB ASS PALIN REALLY IS. CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS LIFE TIME IN REGARDS TO MARRIAGE BETWEEN ANY TWO PEOPLE-UNLESS OF COURSE IT WOULD BE MINORS, OR POLOGAMY. PERHAPS PALIN OUGHT TO SWEEP OFF HER OWN BACK STEPS-HER DAUGHTER IN A MINOR IMPREGNATED BY A MAN OVER 18 YEARS OLD. IS THAT NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE DELINQUENCY OF A MINOR? OH MY GOV. THE COW SLIPPED UNDER THE FENCE. IN ANY EVENT I THINK SHE IS FULL OF BS AND AS I SAID “DUMBER THAN A BOX OF ROCKS!” NO I AM NOT GAY-I AM AS STRAIGHT AS THEY COME-I JUST FEEL LIKE THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT IN PEOPLES BEDROOMS!

20 10 2008
rf11

jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin, I just checked the latest electoral map at Real Clear. As you can see, even if McCain gets all the toss up states, (which he won’t), he won’t get to 270. Early voting has started, so we’re on our way!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

20 10 2008
Lacy Lady

Just received this video : It is a must see——
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/451.html
It is proof there are racist people out there. And this campaign is not helping to put it to rest. Palin is lighting the fire.

20 10 2008
Gay American Voter!

Thanks for your support Sarah! If you’re against us, we can’t lose!

20 10 2008
jwa-Cheney Wolfhound Palin

so nice to be part of a ‘community’ – in the real sense.

bed time.

20 10 2008
Sarah "honey bucket" Hussein

While remembering Obama’s grandmother, let’s not forget her state! We leave her and her friends, and a lot of Obama supporters when we use “lower 48.” Bet Alaskans have felt left out plenty of times, too. And now I think you’re feeling a little too “included” at times.😉

Since you’re Grandma to everybody’s candidate, I guess that makes you everybody’s Grandma. We love you and we’d visit, but I’m betting we wouldn’t all fit in your room! Be better soon. Oh, and hug Barack for all of us.

20 10 2008
PDX Hussein That One MB

Krystal, Funny you should mention the whole Trig thing. My close friend, who is someone I trust on a very deep level, told me tonight that her sister, a recently retired history professor (read: excellent research skills), was sick the week Palin was announced. She was in bed for a week with nothing else to do so was all over the web trying to find out about Palin. She saw the hospital pics before they got scrubbed off the web. Bristol is sitting holding Trig, Palin is leaning near to get in the pic, and Levi and his parents are also there in the pic (why his parents?). Apparently, there were also comments on facebook asking if Bristol had her baby yet… I bet this also explains the $15MM pricetag for the emails, not to mention the secret medical records.

Just sayin’. Also.

20 10 2008
Search the Web on Snap.com

This just out, McCain is moving his election campaign to a small island in the Atlantic, it is the only place still red, there are three people there and they are all Republicans, hold it, just in, they all changed to Democrats, McCain is rowing off cursing Palin in a leaky canoe and trying to act like he knows what he is doing, which he truly does not because he is headed for Palestine if he keeps going the way he is, but then, they could use anothermoron there too, right?

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

ira2 (21:39:50)
=====================================
You are a hoot & a holler. Who couldn’t luv ya?

20 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

What happened to letting the “states” decide? Why do republicans want states to decide on certain issues, but think we need the federal government to decide on others? That really bothers me.

Well, now that 3 states have made the WRONG decision (CA, CT and MA) obviously we can’t trust them to decide anymore, can we??? That kind of decision belongs to the people who so selflessy empowered themselves to control our lives and tell us all what is best for us.
But I’m a little confused…couldn’t they just selflessly lead by example and leave the rest of us the hell alone???

20 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

I could swear I just read that Palin hired a marketing firm from D.C., and a lawyer (D.C., also) named “Silver”? to promote her in Washington.
If I can find it again, although I think it may have been in the huge 63 page PDF that AKM has posted back around Sept. 8th. called “Palin-2006-vetting”.

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Lacy Lady (21:59:04) :
—————————————-
That video is without a doubt, the most incredible story
I have witnessed during this campaign. Thank you for
sharing it with us. I want to say so much right now, but
the anger in me will ————–. Thanks again.
GOD save us all.

20 10 2008
ira2

Deuce2 AL (22:19:48) :

ira2 (21:39:50)
=====================================
You are a hoot & a holler. Who couldn’t luv ya?

Ohhhh… let’s start with most teachers… two ex-husbands… my father… people who’ve crossed me unfairly… the woman across the trail whose aggressive dog came on my property repeatedly… the city people of this tiny city here… other women’s husbands who come for a bit of sugar and are sent flying into the vinegar vat… plenty of people don’t love me. But thanks for the compliment :o)

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

ira2 (22:39:58)
=====================================
DAMN!!!! Didn’t know just how poplar u wer. Now that I
kno, who wulda thunk?

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

G’nite ira 2 and the same for all of you great mudpuppies.
Lord willin’ I’ll be back tmro for more of the same.

20 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

By the way ira 2. Nice socks!

20 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein ProAmerican Palin

Hmmmmmm… How could I have missed that TrickTrack Palin is the one who gave me the First Amendment?
I was thinking that something important happened, in the neighborhood of 1776, that established those freedoms that we ProAmericans so cherish. But my memory’s not what it used to be, so there you have it.
Thank goodness that Caribou Barbie is here to prop me up when my memory fails me! Thanks for my rights, Track!

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

McCain got hit from left field on CBS when told Palin said she disagreed with robocalls. Guess what he pulled out–she’s a maverick.

Uh oh. Betcha little Miss Sarah has had her ears pinned back a time or two by McGrampy.

20 10 2008
ira2

Deuce2 AL (22:48:57) :

By the way ira 2. Nice socks!

Part of the red-white-and-blue Minnesota Special 4th of July outfit, “Independence From Ticks!”
All tucked in, and did you notice the snazzy double-sided duct tape belt?

(I HATE TICKS)

20 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Yawn. Not a comment about this hoppin’ bunch. Just my nap time.

Sleep well or enjoy the day, whichever applies.

20 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Cookies and KOOL AID Rev Jim?

20 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein ProAmerican Palin

@ira2

Interestingly enough, I have one of those Ladies Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society T-shirts, in pristine condition. Needless to say, I haven’t worn it since 9/11/01, but at one time it was a comedic take on the role of women. I got it at a feminist bookstore, while on vacation in Florida.

I also have a button for the “Preying Mantis Women’s Brigade”
very cool

20 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

PALIN THE FEDERALIST, MY ASS!

20 10 2008
ira2

SC Strike Chipper Hussein ProAmerican Palin (23:16:09) :

@ira2

Interestingly enough, I have one of those Ladies Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society T-shirts, in pristine condition. Needless to say, I haven’t worn it since 9/11/01, but at one time it was a comedic take on the role of women. I got it at a feminist bookstore, while on vacation in Florida.

I also have a button for the “Preying Mantis Women’s Brigade”
very cool

OHHHHHHHH!!! Do you think that feminist bookstores still sell that t-shirt?? If it’s still on the market somewhere after all these years, I’d love to find one. Heck, I’d skip the ice cream for a month to buy one, and ice cream is nourishing food in this house! How would I go about finding out if the shirts are still available, can you tell me?

20 10 2008
NY Dem

PDX Hussein That One MB (22:12:45) :

Krystal, Funny you should mention the whole Trig thing. My close friend, who is someone I trust on a very deep level, told me tonight that her sister, a recently retired history professor (read: excellent research skills), was sick the week Palin was announced. She was in bed for a week with nothing else to do so was all over the web trying to find out about Palin. She saw the hospital pics before they got scrubbed off the web. Bristol is sitting holding Trig, Palin is leaning near to get in the pic, and Levi and his parents are also there in the pic (why his parents?). Apparently, there were also comments on facebook asking if Bristol had her baby yet… I bet this also explains the $15MM pricetag for the emails, not to mention the secret medical records.

Just sayin’. Also.

———————————

BINGO !!!

21 10 2008
vena45

I encourage all to read this interesting article by “The New Yorker” called “How John McCain came to pick Sarah Palin”. Very good article!

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

21 10 2008
dowl

South Side Chicago

Good night, sleep tight, don’t let the buzzards bite. Enjoyed visiting all of y’all, as ususal…

Vote early, visualize the victory!

21 10 2008
vena45

Is it me or does anyone else thinks that Sarah Palin looks like Peggy Hill from “King of the Hill”?

21 10 2008
vena45

Read this interesting piece of article called “How John McCain came to pick Sarah Palin” by The New Yorker!

htt://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

21 10 2008
vena45

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

Please read this very interesting article called “How John McCain came to pick Sarah Palin”

21 10 2008
vena45

Well I’ll be dammed if that daughter of a gun Sarah Palin is lying again about Trig being her son instead of Bristol!

21 10 2008
mhrt oregon"steve"

ira2 (22:39:58) :

Deuce2 AL (22:19:48) :

@ira2 (21:39:50)
=====================================
You are a hoot & a holler. Who couldn’t luv ya?

Ohhhh… let’s start with most teachers… two ex-husbands… my father… people who’ve crossed me unfairly… the woman across the trail whose
———————————————
you remind me of my grandmay….and I sure did repsect her

21 10 2008
GT

SP: “I’m not going to be out there judging individuals… telling [them] what they can and can’t do…”

…But, in their most personal decisions, I WILL tell them who they can and cannot marry, what say they have over their uterus, what their children should learn in school about protecting themselves from unwanted pregnancies and avoiding STD’s…

21 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in Florida

Hi again NY Dem –

I wish someone had downloaded and engraved onto a disc all those photos – I am waiting to see Palin’s medical records – will it be “doctored”? (Yeah, pun intended…) Will there be Trig’s birth pencilled in or will there be gaping holes? I’ve seen those photos of Palin, both skinny and fat, from March and April. Don’t look preggers to me, fat suit or not. And for a 44 year old woman to look as slim as she did in August at the convention only 4 months after the birth… I am truly skeptical!

21 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

Tooting my own horn here. I posted a question on The Mudflats-Index this morning and got a response that really brightens my day, even at this early hour, as I hope it will yours:

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,2598.msg22399/topicseen.html#new

21 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

From today’s NY Times:

“Obama Appeal Rises in Poll; No Gains for McCain Ticket ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/us/politics/21poll.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

21 10 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT

I wonder how her “best friend” feels after hearing that SWWNBN wants to ban her from her civil rights….with an amendment to the most sacred piece of paper we have.

I wonder who actually feels like this particular issue has ANYTHING to do with national security, bank failure, job loss, minimum wage, immigration, or health insurance for everyone.

Grow up, McHater. Thank GOD I don’t want to live like you.

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21 10 2008
megacephalus

GUARDIAN today Michael Tomasky
guardian.co.uk, Monday October 20 2008
as to How did Palin get chosen:

.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/oct/20/uselections2008-sarahpalin

also the NewYorker:

.http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer

with apologies, as I’m too dumb to ‘get’ posting of URLs: drop that first ‘dot’

21 10 2008
megacephalus

Let me share the following re: “Sarah’s Baby”

From a licensed nurse-practitioner in Denmark:

“Well I have had my doubts all along. Bein’ a woman and all…here’s the
medical scoop.

“1. You aren’t allowed to fly after 7 months without a medical leave – a
post-40 multi-pari woman would be unlikely to get that, esp within days
of due date.

“2. She was in Texas at a conference or similar when her waters
supposedly broke, after leaving the conference area to get a phone call.
And kept on like nothing happened. Anybody who’s had that knows it makes
a helluva mess.

“3. She refused medical attention. This is extremely irresponsible as
full labour can start immediately and there is also a higher chance of
distress for the baby if labour is delayed. This also means that she had
no way of knowing her dilation, e.g. how close she was to birth.

“4. She delays a few hours and then boards a plane to Alaska. From Texas
– many hours journey. This was breaking every airline rule in the book.
Once your waters break you are techically in labour and may not fly. And
giving birth at high altitude is a whole nother kettle than at sea
level. Because of cabin pressure you have issues of bleeding and oxygen
for the mother and child that do not exist down below. Not to mention no
backup in an emergency – you get unterine hemorrhage, you’re a goner. In
front of frightened passengers. For an older woman – who theoretically
must already have known her child would be Downs syndrome – this is an
incredible risk. Shows zero judgement and a death wish for all
concerned. Not to mention incredible insensitivity to others and a
cavalier attitude toward legal and liability questions.

“5. Once back to Alaska, she does not go to her normal hospital, where
she would theoretically been having regular care from a team.
(Continuity of care is very important.) No, she travels hours to a far
off little place where she apparently has no regular practitioner. And
there she gives birth, as if the whole thing was perfectly timed.

“6. Breastfeeding a Downs child is very very important for their immune
system and checking the development of the syndrome. Palin apparently
does not nurse the baby (she seems to have nursed the others) and gives
the child into care after three or four days. (Reports conflict how
long, but agree she does not care for the child herself.) For a woman
whom McCain promotes as knowing about special needs kids (altho he
consistantly refers to autism ???) she seems completely out to lunch on
this one.

“7. Check out her pics before trig was born. She sure doesn’t look
pregnant to me. And Bristol doesn’t look very preggers now.

“8. She never looks the baby in the eye when she has hold of him in photo
opps. Well, I guess if he’s not hers or she has dumped him, that would
make sense. Altho a doting grandma who truly believes all children are
blessed by God, would adore this kid.

“I would really like to see the medical records – there is absolutely no
reason to keep them secret if the child is hers. Unless of course, she
endangered the baby by her travels and damaged him somehow, in which
case she can be charged under Alaska law. At the least it would look
bad. And we know she could give a shite about children born of difficult
situations.

“OK that’s my 2 cents”

We report, you decide 😉

21 10 2008
Lee

Megacephalus, I agree with you on all counts, and I believe that this little boy appears to have featal alcohol syndrom, and not downs syndrom. The facial features, and the head indicate that.

21 10 2008
Big Al of LV, NV

To the Muflattie from San Bernardino with the Republican Pastor and Religilous Right Deacons,

Yes, remind the idiots that partisanship behind the pulpit is in violation of their tax exempt status. But, as we know in the world of George Bush and Karl Rove, these church heads would rather end up in court than give up their God-given right to say any parishioner voting against the Republican ticket in November will go to hell. So, better to make the pocket-book argument, which is …

Over the last 8 years, evangelical churches have been losing their younger members (those 30-somethings like your daughter and me) buy the boatloads. In 8 years, 90% of these red churches will be 55 and over. They will have lost an entire generation of Generation X’ers and Y’ers meaning most of these red churches will not be able to keep the lights on and their doors open because they won’t have the high-earning demographic in their pews anymore. So, what should they do …

They need to listen to the religious leaders of the new generation of evangelicals that embrace the values of liberation theology – gay rights, eradicate racism, a woman’s right to choose, quality education for poor children, health care for all, etc. You can point to one of their own, Tammy Faye and Jim Baker’s son of “One Punk Under God Fame,” as a leader of this new evangelical movement.

If this pocket-book appeal doesn’t work, then, yes, call the local media and protest the church. And, make signs encouraging parishioners to boycott tithing as the church. The tithing thing will get under the skin of the red pastor and his red deacons.

21 10 2008
Rosemarie McMichael

Here’s something to amuse, a “Falling Sarah” (if I’ve linked it correctly): http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/palin3.htm

21 10 2008
familyforest

Did you see this on Sarah Palin? Do you think she even knows?

Sarah Palin is related to who?
http://familyforest.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/sarah-palin-is-related-to-who/

21 10 2008
Anonymous

you no music can give you a good feeling, just like sarah palin she is a nightmare she is not the right person to be V.P.. SHE SAID she is a christan what bible is she reading. when she is following thing a christan will not put there self in no matter what, if it was not the right way. i hope she can sleep at night because she has drag her whole family in the he said and she said.she is a follow of wrong. wrong doese not fit for a christian.a pretty face can not take the knowledge of someone who no what the bush docting is———come on american stop thinking with your color glasses on and vote for the person who will help make our united state safer from evil heartless people. SHE IS NOT THE ONE.REMEMBER JOHN MCCAINE WILL DO ANY THING TO WIN THE WHITE HOUSE, NO MATTER WHO HE WILL HURT TO GET THERE.American american people this is to importing for the american people to start taking side.we all amereican we need some one who can face the evil people with out pulling up there stocking.look where we are at with prestident bush. look at your kids and tell them i lost my job, i lost our home .now some one who want to help and let the people no he is on there side . vote for change vote for now. she is not the one.she dot no how to have a enterview with the reporters. she blower thing out not knowing what she is saying.

21 10 2008
mlaiuppa

I’m not much of a historian, but did Italy have a “constitution” under Mussonlini? Perhaps Palin should give that a read looking for ways to “revise” our own Constitution. I bet she’d find a lot she likes and agrees with. (I find it so amusing that of all of the “fear” words used for Obama, socialist, communist, etc the one word the right never uses is….Fascist. I wonder why?)

21 10 2008
Brain Teasers

She is making her way on losing the national election. She needs to find her way back. And what’s with the church issues regarding the gay marriage? Is McCain using Palin about this issue? McCain is indeed a coward man.

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