Through the Looking Glass With Sarah Palin.

12 10 2008

If there’s anyone else left out there who doesn’t believe that Sarah Palin can look you in the eye and tell you black is white, I have a present for you. Here is the transcript of a five minute conference call with Sarah Palin, Meg Stapleton, the Anchorage Daily News, and local TV stations KTVA, and KTUU.  The journalists got one question each with no follow up.

I’ve been struggling to find the right terminology for this.  She has jumped the shark.  She has landed on Fantasy Island.  She has slipped through the looking glass.  She’s Queen of Denial.  She has become the Head of Orwell’s Ministry of Truth…  choose whichever metaphor works for you.

Here is the transcript of Palin’s interview by these  journalists, after the Branchflower Report on the Troopergate investigation was released, stating that she had abused her power as governor.   As a matter of fact, let’s review Finding Number One as it is written:

“For the reasons explained in section IV of the report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.11(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. 

“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”

The second thing we should review before joining Sarah Through the Looking Glass, is that the Legislative Council, made up of TEN Republicans and FOUR Democrats voted unanimously to begin the investigation, and unanimously to release the results of the investigation. Ten Republicans, four democrats.  Remember that, because it comes up later.

Alright.  So here is the transcript.  The emphasis is mine, and used on those passages that defy reality, and/or leave me speechless.

Palin: Hey, thank you so, Meg. Thank you so much. Thank you also to our local reporters up there in Alaska. Even hearing your names make me feel like I’m right there with you at home. It’s good to get to speak with you. Let me talk a little bit about the Tasergate issue if you guys would let me and, Meg, you want me to just jump right on in there?

Stapleton: Sure governor, go ahead.

Palin: OK cool.

Well, I’m very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that. Todd did what anyone would have done given this state trooper’s very, very troubling behavior and his dangerous threats against our family. Todd did what I think any Alaskan would do.

And he, Todd did what the state’s Department of Law Web site tells anyone to do if they have a concern about a state trooper. And that’s you go to the commissioner and you express your concern. And Todd did what our personal detail asked him to do. Bob Cockrell early on as I was elected and was asked are there any threats against ya, and Todd brought the concern as I did to Commissioner Monegan about the state trooper’s threats. He did what any – I think — any rational person would do so again, nothing to apologize there with Todd’s actions and again very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing.

(Stapleton invites the first question).

ADN: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?

Palin: Not at all and I’ll tell you, it, I think that you’re always going to ruffle feathers as you do what you believe is in the best interest of the people whom you are serving. In this case I knew that I had to have the right people in the right position at the right time in this cabinet to best serve Alaskans, and Walt Monegan was not the right person at the right time to meet the goals that we had set out in our administration. So no, not having done anything wrong, and again very much appreciating being cleared of any legal wrongdoing or unethical activity at all.

ADN: Have you read the whole report? (No response; Stapleton invites question from KTVA reporter).

KTVA-Channel 11: … The report that came out yesterday, do you think that the end result is partisan?

Palin: Yeah, I did think it did turn into a partisan circus to tell you the truth. Yes I did. You know from Day One it’s been the Personnel Board that clearly laid out in state statute there — Personnel Board deals with any issue of question regarding a governor, a lieutenant governor or an attorney general in the state of Alaska. What this legislative investigation — quote unquote — turned into was a political circus.

KTUU-Channel 2: Governor, so good to hear from you. Do you approve of the way that your campaign has handled themselves here in Alaska? We’ve had a lot of people voice concerns about what they call attacks of good people in our state while you are away.

Palin: Well I haven’t heard of any attacks on good people in Alaska from our campaign. If you have specifics there, maybe I could answer specifically. But no, in John McCain’s mission here, in taking the high road, as you’re going to see too with a lot of unfair shots he has taken in this campaign with some of his opponents’ supporters, McCain and I taking the high road, being positive. I wouldn’t support nor would I condone taking shots at any good Alaskans.

KTUU-Channel 2: Let me answer your question since you asked for specifics.

Palin: Sure.

KTUU-Channel 2: Walt Monegan was called “rogue.” How do you feel about that?

Palin: Rogue isn’t a negative term when you consider that in a cabinet you need a team effort going forward with a governor’s agenda. And our agenda has been to find efficiencies in every department and make sure that we are serving the people of Alaska to the best of our ability given the resources that we have. And remember I fought very hard to increase funding for state troopers so that we could fill positions there and goals not being met that included not being able to recruit and retain all the state troopers that I wanted to best serve Alaska. That could be characterized I think as a cabinet member who – it’s not a negative term I think — being rogue in terms of not meeting those goals.

Just for fun, let’s check out the definition of “rogue.”  *clears throat*

Rogue. Adjective.

  1. Vicious and solitary. Used of an animal, especially an elephant.
  2. Large, destructive, and anomalous or unpredictable: a rogue wave; a rogue tornado.
  3. Operating outside normal or desirable controls: “How could a single rogue trader bring down an otherwise profitable and well-regarded institution?”

He’s a vicious, solitary elephant who doesn’t meet his goals…in a GOOD way.

So let’s recap.  The report states she has abused her power as governor, and she’s really glad she’s done nothing wrong.  Todd did what any “Alaskan” would do.  She thinks the mostly Republican legislative council has turned into a partisan circus, but she hasn’t heard anything about attacks on anyone in Alaska from her campaign.  The McCain campaign is taking the high road and being positive. And being a rogue cop isn’t a bad thing.  Any questions?

If you want to read Lisa Demer’s full account, and hear the interview in the Governor’s own voice:  CLICK HERE.  That way you can just, you know, hear her talkin’ to the people, and bein’ what she is, also, and gettin’ her statement out there and rufflin’ feathers so as to serve the people of Alaska there also.

This must be the sound it makes when a house of cards collapses.



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12 10 2008
Snoskred

Wow, Palin is truly a whacko.. and apparently clueless about what is going on at home in her name.

I think it is time to think about organising a recall.

12 10 2008
diana

I am really beginning to feel that the media has to protest the mcshame campaign and not let the mcshame campaign have their way….mcshame should be answering the american public….

the journalists each got one question with no follow up….this is an acceptable interview?????……block all interviews till they meet media standards, mcshame is just able to get his word out…..

It’s time to play by the rules…………………

also, any info on the protests/booing at the philly game….anybody there????

thanks

12 10 2008
marksmyword

Is she for real? I feel for ya’ll in Alaska: you’ll be gettin’ your village idiot back soon. Sorry.

12 10 2008
AnneinWA

AKM – It’s 6:30 am here in Washington, and after reading the following words, “Let me talk a little bit about the Tasergate issue…” I was ready to run away from my computer, screaming…my hair ablaze once again!

I can’t stand to read the entire transcript this early, but THANK YOU for truly wading through the muck and mire to keep us informed. Even if I am too much of a wimp to take it…

12 10 2008
biglake (sack panther hussein)

The Pitbull has got rabies.

12 10 2008
diana

palin did use the term”good” alaskans when saying she hadn’t heard of any
attacks on the people of alaska, so obviously mcshame aeels that any attacks were only on “bad” alaskans

have a great day!!!!

12 10 2008
pj

She shoulda been around for Nixon and may-be even Clinton…bettcha she coulda righted those partisan investigations by golly.
Using her logic no elected official, anywhere at anytime, should come under review by any assembled body that was not appointed by the accused.
Wow, I wonder if I can use that line of defense if I ever end up in court?

12 10 2008
Scorpie

OMG~~what part of “abuse of power” or “unethical” does she not understand?

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

As I was sifting through the Bed Time thread to see all the fun that I missed overnight (as I was tossing and turning. AGAIN), I see that you too AKM didn’t sleep well. Wheels in the brain go round and round…

And who in God’sname awarded this chick a diploma in journalism?? One question per reporter was more than enough since NOTHING was answered (as usual). (sigh) And thanks but no thanks AKM to the audio choice as her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard! I would howver, LOVE to see a video of the reporter’s faces after each *answer*.😉

12 10 2008
Deb

morning mudflatters…I awakened this morning to find a mass “forwarded” email from a cousin of min. (many of my family members are in texas/oklama
The email was encouring all of us to be sure to watch Hannity’s show on Obama because it was going to reveal…..(insert all the nasty character attack attempts here) the TRUTH about obama.

I simply replied to ALL with this”

“It’s amazing after all these years that I still choose those who INSPIRE over those who INCITE, How easy it would be (and maybe even more profitable) to be an inciter rather than an inspirer.
Hannity is an inciter. I would rather watch a show that talks about the issues rather than attacks character. I won’t be watching this show.”

12 10 2008
CKMN

Sarah Palin is IN DENIAL big time…

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Sarah in Wonderland:

King of Hearts: What do you know about this unfortunate affair?
March Hare: Nothing.
Queen of Hearts: Nothing whatever?
March Hare: Nothing whatever!
Queen of Hearts: [shouts] That’s very important! Jury, write that down!

12 10 2008
West Virginian

This woman is delusional. The McCreepy campaign is “taking the high road”?? Where was she when they said their campaign was going to be 100% negative?

The Tasergate comment was interesting. Guess she didn’t want to say Troopergate. She was careful to say she hadn’t violated any “legal” issues.

Again, does she take drugs??

12 10 2008
S Fla Voter

Maybe the dictionary is one of those books she wanted banned. Rogue is also dishonest or worthless person, a scoundrel.

Morning from Florida🙂

btw, mudflats is #4 on the Best Political Blog list with a whopping 196 votes today! Woot!

12 10 2008
Vickie

Wow!!!! She is unbelievable! I hope this makes it to the “Lower 48” and soon! This could be a Tina Fey skit on SNL this week! Wow is all I can say! Wow!

12 10 2008
West Virginian

….also, this woman has no idea what a “good Alaskan” is!

12 10 2008
kimbers Chop Meth Palin

Oh brother, that’s just so pathetically delusional, it almost (just almost) makes me feel sorry for her.

I wonder if late at night, when she gets back to her hotel room, she puts on her ruby red slippers and clicks her heels together,

I wanna go home
I wanna go home
I wanna go home

without realizing the “Straight Talk Express” doesn’t care that they are sending her back as roadkill.

12 10 2008
lookingglass

Can anyone here comment on Timothy Petumenos being hired and the independent counsel for the Personnel board investigation?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163465

12 10 2008
MJC

In Battleground Virginia, a Tale of Two Ground Games

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849422,00.html

**This article from Time Magazine gives you a good glimpse into the Lies the McCain’s volunteers tell about Obama going door to door.

12 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

She is not delusional, she knows exactly what she is doing and this by definition makes her very dangerous.

The way she is treating the media is exactly how she and McCain will run the White house.

I become more afraid everyday. In the end she is nothing but a pathalogical liar.

12 10 2008
Lulu

Has this already been posted on Mudflats? Someone should hand a copy of Newsweek to Palin. From “Troopergate Not Over Yet” by Michael Isikoff:

“Some weeks ago, the McCain team devised a plan to have Palin file an ethics complaint against herself with the State Personnel Board, arguing that it alone was capable of conducting a fair, nonpartisan inquiry into whether she fired Monegan because he refused to fire Wooten, who had been involved in a messy custody battle with her sister. Some Democrats ridiculed the move, noting that the personnel board answered to Palin. But the board ended up hiring an aggressive Anchorage trial lawyer, Timothy Petumenos, as an independent counsel. McCain aides were chagrined to discover that Petumenos was a Democrat who had contributed to Palin’s 2006 opponent for governor, Tony Knowles. Palin is now scheduled to be questioned next week, and the counsel’s report could be released soon after. “We took a gamble when we went to the personnel board,” said a McCain aide who asked not to be identified discussing strategy. While the McCain camp still insists Palin “has nothing to hide,” it acknowledges a critical finding by Petumenos would be even harder to dismiss. “

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163465

12 10 2008
Deb

I was flipping through all my favorite newchannels here looking at the headlines. This one caught my eye and for a fleeting moment I thought our troubles were over and she was headed back to Alaska:

“Toxic cloud passes, residents allowed home”

That’s how hopeful I am that this will END!

12 10 2008
TheraP

This link is very helpful in terms of understanding the ethical lapses and lack of boundaries between the personal and the professional, which underlie all Palin’s problems. Please feel free to disseminate any of the ideas with no need for attribution. But take the time to read carefully as it will help you put in perspective why this woman is unfit for any office as well as what factors are vital to choosing a leader:

http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/636

Title: Failure to Draw Boundaries: WHY ETHICS MATTERS

12 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

She is AMAZINGLY stupid!!! She doesn’t deserve to be a candidate for elementary vp, let a lone candidate for vp of the US.

12 10 2008
caplatt

RUNNING ON EMPTY

12 10 2008
kimbers Chop Meth Palin

Proud Community OrganizerWA-

I agree that she is dangerous, in fact, she is IMHO one of the most dangerous politicians that I’ve ever seen because she is delusional.

Like McCain, she seems to be completely unaware that because of the internet, information, videos, interviews, etc will all get out there and contrary to their perception that voters are just dumb clucks who want to be led around by the nose, a whole lot of us want to be informed voters. (sorry I know the structure of that previous sentence was terrible).

I believe Sarah Palin and John McCain are so dangerous that I am spending every day out canvassing for Obama. I have been doing this for weeks now and will continue to right up until the election.

One observation I have made is that there is that I have not run into a single McCain canvasser. I am convinced they have no ground game, no matter what they say. They didn’t have one before they tanked and they don’t have one now.

12 10 2008
MJC

Sarah Palin truly believes that she is ABOVE THE LAW! She seems to have made up a set of Laws for herself and her family, just as she tried to re-write the Constitution during the Debate as it pertains to the Vice President’s duties while in Office.

This is an indication of things to come if she were to be elected. She is delusional, a Liar, lacks Ethics, and promotes hate mongering.

12 10 2008
cmac

AKM:
as usual, a brilliantly written piece, but with truly troubling content.

I want to get the mic at an Obama rally, and state that “I am really really afraid of Sarah Palin…”

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

She’s far from stupid. Pathological liar? Yes. Stupid? No.

12 10 2008
John Henry

So no, not having done anything wrong, and again very much appreciating being cleared of any legal wrongdoing or unethical activity at all.

That’s not even a sentence.

This is classic narcissistic personality disorder. There is no subject in it. The subject of course is I. She refuses to accept the truth about herself. She can’t handle it. She will unravel if forced to. So, instead, she’ll continue to create her own reality. Worse, she will get the people around her to lie for her. Not mentioning any names, Meg. Anyone who’s ever had the misfortune of being in a relationship with a narcissist knows you can never ever ever get these people to be honest. They are all sweet and nice and charming when you first meet them, but as you get to know them you realize they are frauds. The deeper you dig the more lies you find. When you confront them with clear evidence they continue to lie and refuse to acknowledge the glaring inconsistencies in their logic.

I encourage everyone to research it online. There are alot of people walking around with it, who appear normal, but are actually not. These people prey on the decency of others. They take kindness as weakness. As Hollis French said when explaining why he didn’t subpoeana (sp?) Sarah, “She said she would cooperate so many times that it seems illogical that she would not actually show up”. Well, she didnt. There you go. A rogue is not negative.

Read some of the horror stories in the support groups of victims of narcissists.

12 10 2008
TheraP

Clearly Palin’s idea of the “high road” is one completely unhinged from earth altogether. She’s floating in the stratosphere, divorced from reality. Floating off further and further from any future career except possibly fantasy writing.

12 10 2008
Anonymous

ADN: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?
ADN: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?

Palin: Not at all and I’ll tell you, it, I think I’m going to ruffle feathers as I do what I believe in Christ, the best are the extreme right, white people whom I am serving in Holyland in my head. In this case God and I knew that I have the right to walk all over people and the environment. God made me the right person at the right time in this cabinet to best serve extremist in Alaska, and Walt Monegan, a true American, who believes in democracy, was not the right person from my congregation at the right time to meet Gods goals that we had set out in our administration. Amen.

What a crackpot…

12 10 2008
TheraP

John Henry, narcissistic personality is only for starters. This goes way beyond narcissism. It’s outright lying and manipulation. If you take narcissism to it’s furthest reaches you arrive at anti-social personality. Equivalent terms are sociopath or psychopath. That’s where we are now.

12 10 2008
Texchick

Palin is a kook. Even the staunchest sons of the Republican party are standing up to proclaim it.

As I read the above “interview”, I couldn’t help but think of the essay I read this morning by Christopher Buckley, the writer and son of one of the most famous conservatives in America history, William F. Buckley, who was my John Birch Society father’s greatest hero– Christopher Buckley has come out as an Obama supporter! His essay starts with a quote from his father, a man who never suffered fools gladly: “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.”

To start your morning off right, read Christopher Buckley’s clever, erudite, and yes Obama-praising essay here: “Sorry, Dad, I’m voting for Obama.” http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-10/the-conservative-case-for-obama/

12 10 2008
Lulu

Disenchanted wrote: “She’s far from stupid. Pathological liar? Yes. Stupid? No.”

No, no offense, but I beg to differ. There’s nothing about Palin that’s smart. She can’t even string a sentence together using a subject and a predicate. She is really, really dumb. Have you seen the SAT scores that are supposedly hers, along with the high school grades? She allegedly had a 2.2 average and she went to 5 colleges….She doesn’t know the most basic tenets of the English language, and it’s her native tongue. She doesn’t even know that an “Achilles heel” is. She probably thought all hockey players love her when she took the Philly appearance. She probably thinks Tina Fey likes her, too.

12 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Newsweek has an interesting take on the personnel board and its lawyer.
“But the board ended up hiring an aggressive Anchorage trial lawyer, Timothy Petumenos, as an independent counsel. McCain aides were chagrined to discover that Petumenos was a Democrat who had contributed to Palin’s 2006 opponent for governor, Tony Knowles. Palin is now scheduled to be questioned next week, and the counsel’s report could be released soon after. “We took a gamble when we went to the personnel board,” said a McCain aide who asked not to be identified discussing strategy.”

[http://www.newsweek.com/id/163465]

12 10 2008
janetshusb

The following comment is very picky: but I do wish we wouldn’t fall into the habit of renaming the candidates (e.g. Mc Same, McShame and worse). It takes away from the seriousness of our comments and often makes us sound as negative as the opposition.

12 10 2008
MJC

TheraP,
Excellent post. Thank You.

12 10 2008
Olay Biscuit Barrel Icky Patang Palin

Sarah needs a tarring and feathering…metaphorically. Impeach this sociopath please,by all thats good in the world!!!! We beg you!

12 10 2008
Lady Rose

Wow well for once (and only once) Sarah Palin has left me speechless. She really does just live in her own little world.

I deeply appreciate you taking the time to get the truth out there.

I hope folks up in Alaska keep digging for the truth and it out to the public.

From what I’ve seen mentioned in some new reports she also illegally charged the Alaskan taxpayers for some expenses and owes a lot fo back taxes. As well using her political office to promote her religious agenda. But there really isn’t much available, so it’s hard to tell what is fact or exaggeration.

A lot of folks worry about Bristol and Levi too. I hope they are ok. My heart goes out to both of them.

12 10 2008
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12 10 2008
Tom from PA

First the good news: Barack Obama has gotten the endorsements of the Dayton Daily News and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, two key newspapers in very key states.

Now my fears. After watching clips of several Palin recent speeches, I was not only worried about what some crazy would do in this country where charasmatic, hope-filled leaders have a history of assassination attempts. It really bothered me especially after watching the skinhead sheriff in uniform firing off a salute that if a Hitleresque personality was ever to run in this democracy, there is a large base here that would be ready, willing and able to follow like mice. Is anyone else bothered by this?

12 10 2008
S Fla Voter

Lady Rose:

And about Bristol and Levi, why haven’t we seen the wedding yet? Or are they waiting to see who’s elected first?

Liar, stupid, kook, we can also add hypocrite to the list. The religious right gave Palin a pass on their unwed, pregnant teenage daughter while they would have run Obama into the ground had it been him.

12 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin

Wow. Just wow. Also.

Just when I think I have heard it all, she speaks again. I really don’t know what to say, I look at the computer screen and shake my head. Also.

12 10 2008
SoCal Bob

I’m frustrated at the RNC attempt to bury the entirety of the situation into one event. Sure, Sarah was justified in firing anyone. She was the governor and that’s what governors do. HOWEVER, she abused her authority in trying to get Wooten fired. 2 different things, not one. Palin DID break the rule and she is sliding sideways out of it by claiming the firing was legal. It isn’t the firing, it’s the abuse we’re looking at!

12 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard

Some good-looking numbers here.

12 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Sorry about the repost on Newsweek.

Regarding rogue, I always equated a rogue as being a hyper-maverick. Maybe
Palin is projecting her own characteristics onto Monegan in a somewhat exaggerated way.

12 10 2008
S Fla Voter

Tom from PA:

John Lewis was right. We haven’t seen this level of discourse since George Wallace ran for Governor. And it’s made her more dangerous than Bush, Cheney and McCain combined. McCain can’t even reign in his ROGUE pick, how can he run this country?

But I’m not worried about assassination attempts. Well not in the sense of it being more prevelant now than before. Reagan, Ford and I think HW Bush also, yes? had attempts on their life. Kooks will always abound.

12 10 2008
Lulu

I am heartened by the news in Newsweek that Palin is now trembling over the release of the report from the Personnel Board–this after she filed an ethics investigation complaint against herself so they would investigate her and “clear her.”

I wouldn’t be surprised if after they love the election to Obama-Biden if she doesn’t try to sue herself.

12 10 2008
Gryphen

The truly funny thing is even while reading a transcript of what she said I cannot get that ridiculous “Fargo” accent of hers out of my head.

I was not aware that we made any breakfast cereals up here in Alaska, but apparently we do make Fruit Loops!

At least the rest of the country can breathe a sigh of relief when she and McCain get defeated in November, but for us our troubles may just be beginning.

12 10 2008
Lulu

Ooopps. Second try: I wouldn’t be surprised if after they LOSE the election to Obama-Biden if Palin doesn’t try to sue herself.

12 10 2008
Donna

TheraP, thanks for the link about the ethics. So informative and interesting.

12 10 2008
Lacy Lady

After all this crap, coming from the mouth of this idiot—–and absolutely NOTHING about all this in the national media—-WHY in the hell are they protecting this woman? It is causing people to forget what this election is all about. Our country is in serious trouble. We could end up as a third world country. I just viewed a video that deeply concerns me.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/442.html
The Alaskan people are our only hope. Let your voices be heard. I pray that all of you can yell loud enough that it will be heard around the world.
Peace

12 10 2008
DarleenMB

My head hurts.

WTF is it with this woman? I can’t decide if she’s looney, stupid, or a sociopath. And I thought Wyoming politics stunk.

Are you all planning on a recall election when she runs back to Alaska with her tail between her legs on November 5th? Maybe you should start proceedings NOW.

12 10 2008
robinshood2

The reason for Palin’s constant reconstruction of reality is that she sees herself through this frame.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/8/81320/5572/717/623739

From the lead:

“I believe in warfare. We were given an assignment in Alaska… we had the very liberal candidates running for governor, and we began to pray for God to give us a Christian “, declared Mary Glazier. At a three day religious conference held in Everett, Washington last summer, on June 13, 2008, Glazier described how, nearly two decades ago, her movement helped propel Alaska Independence Party candidate Walter J. Hickel, in an upset write-in campaign, into the Alaska governor’s office: Glazier’s new prayer group member, a 24 year old woman named Sarah Palin, would later follow.

12 10 2008
Bobg

Thanks much for the transcript; without it I would have no idea what she said. It’s been a long time since I heard a politician speak this way. She talks and talks and when she done everyone looks at each other and asks, “What did she say?” I just heard on MSNBC that the Gallup pol has Obama 9 points ahead. Also Sarah Cutesy was soundly booed at the hockey showoff. It looks like Alaska is going to get her back. I feel sorry for Mudflats. Within a year they’re going to have $300,000 in traffic tickets.

http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/

12 10 2008
Lulu

Darleen wrote; ” I can’t decide if she’s looney, stupid, or a sociopath. And I thought Wyoming politics stunk.”

I have decided that Palin is all of the above!

I truly feel badly for Alaskans.

12 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

In regard to the personality assessments of SP, I still hold with Fromm’s psychoanalytic perspective and point to a nerophilic personality. It accounts for the traits of narcissism, amoral functioning, the objectification of others,
extreme ruthlessness and an obsessive-compulsive dedication to getting one’s own objectives by whatever means. Fromm classified Hitler and Stalin as extreme examples of this type, but noted that most are more mundane and often are able to operate marginally at levels above their normally expected positions. This puts them under great stress and helps to trigger high levels of denial coupled with the paranoid symptoms of delusions of grandeur and hostility toward others.

12 10 2008
DarleenMB

Meant to tell you all there is a brand new book on Amazon: THANKS BUT NO THANKS: THE VOTER’S GUIDE TO SARAH PALIN by Sue Katz and Sandy somebody. I got it for my new Kindle and have just started reading it. I think it’s going to be a must read for everyone.

12 10 2008
ds55

Troopergate Part 2: It’s Not Over Yet
From Newsweek Magazine – http://www.newsweek.com/id/163465
“But there could be more land mines ahead. Some weeks ago, the McCain team devised a plan to have Palin file an ethics complaint against herself with the State Personnel Board, arguing that it alone was capable of conducting a fair, nonpartisan inquiry into whether she fired Monegan because he refused to fire Wooten, who had been involved in a messy custody battle with her sister. Some Democrats ridiculed the move, noting that the personnel board answered to Palin. But the board ended up hiring an aggressive Anchorage trial lawyer, Timothy Petumenos, as an independent counsel. McCain aides were chagrined to discover that Petumenos was a Democrat who had contributed to Palin’s 2006 opponent for governor, Tony Knowles. Palin is now scheduled to be questioned next week, and the counsel’s report could be released soon after. “We took a gamble when we went to the personnel board,” said a McCain aide who asked not to be identified discussing strategy. While the McCain camp still insists Palin “has nothing to hide,” it acknowledges a critical finding by Petumenos would be even harder to dismiss.”

WooHoo! Hope springs eternal! It ain’t over ’til it’s over!

12 10 2008
Pursang

So, how is her response to this going to play with the Legislature and the citizens of Alaska?

She taken another hard swipe at an honest and well thought of Alaskan and at a certain point I would think this has to backfire. She’s basically done everything she can to discredit a huge amount of good people and her inner circle keeps getting smaller and more rabid by the day. How soon will it be Sarah, Todd, Meg, and Talis against the world?

Correct me if I’m wrong but there are ramifications to her actions that haven’t been addressed yet (such as censure or impeachment). Wouldn’t it be wise to throw out a blizzard of words and just try to snow the press at this point? Something along the lines of “with the needs of this campaign I have not had the opportunity to read the report but as soon as I am able I will and issue a statement” That would diffuse the situation for now and not make her look like such a delusional individual. What is the use of antagonizing everyone even further still when they can still create legal and political problems for you?

If I’m wrong and this is all done and dusted please let me know. Even if it is, if i were her I would still tread lightly. She’s going to have to come back to Alaska and try to govern (I know she honestly thinks she’s going to win) so why not try to make nice, even if it isn’t in your nature? She’s clearly made a life of acting like someone she isn’t so why not do it here; or doesn’t that play into the pitbull character she now plays?

So we have another Bush in that Palin will never take responsibility for anything, never admit she’s heaven forbid wrong. She’ll spin everything into it being a partisan witch hunt (thankfully she has Muthee on her side) and the hand of God will help her to govern in a wise yet misunderstood manner.

Just like a lot of loyal Bushie’s have had their eyes opened by his destruction of this country a lot of loyal Palinites will have to admit that their messiah has failed them as well. Thankfully I believe Alaskans will smell Palin’s BS a lot quicker than the Bushie’s smelled his so there will be hope for their state after all.

12 10 2008
S Fla Voter

SoCal Bob:

Indeed, it’s the abuse of power. I want to see Obama ads highlighting this this week.

Obama will be airing a 30 minute commercial ad on Oct 29. Thanks to all of us who have been giving money to his campaign so he can do this. I’m hoping he includes this very important element.

12 10 2008
Anonymous

ADN: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?

Palin: Yes, it is clear to me I violated state law, but worse than that, I violated every Alaskan citizens trust. I was wrong about Walt Monegan a truely honorable American who was loyal and dedicated to upholding our states laws, for this I can only express my most sincere apology to Walt and all Alaskans.

ADN: What are your plans now, in light of your failed leadership of Alaska?

Palin: Well, I plan on touring Alaska, bush and all, not as Governor but as a citizen, I need to go face to face with Alaskans and let them know just how sorry I am. In the meantime, I am temporarily turning over my leadership position and responsibilities to Walt Monegan until they seat the Lieutenant Governor.

ADN: What are your future plans for your family?

Palin: Well, Todd and I and the kids can eek out a living in LasVegas, we hope to open a wax museum of failed republican leaders called Republican-O-Rama.

Obviously, the above will never happen…
But this will Obama/Biden 08

12 10 2008
Bobg

I was talking last night to a friend about the election. He said that he is voting for McCain/Palin. “Man, she’s hot,” he said. So now there is a new qualification for candidates for the Presidency; the candidate has to be hot first of all. My friend must have been looking at some other woman because, while Sarah Cutesy isn’t ugly, I don’t feel that she’s anything to leave your wife for. I couldn’t stand being around that voice very long. Every time she comes on the TV I hit the mute button.

http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

Crap, 2 of my post have gone into the spam file because my name box was empty, dah.. sorry AKM…

**This must be the sound it makes when a house of cards collapses.**

Loud and clear

12 10 2008
Joe and Heather Linwood NJ

Sarah took her girls to the philly’s hockey game to drop the puck. Bad decision…The Boo’s were so loud they had to turn up the music. You can see Obama/Biden signs in the clip on you tube.
Sarah is a very dangerous politician. I can not believe McCain still has her on this ticket.
Will Alaska welcome her back with open arms?
My question is why is her husband involved in government work?

12 10 2008
Joe and Heather Linwood NJ

I really hope the rumor that Sarah will be on saturday night live is not true.

12 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html : “What the Troopergate Report Really Says”

Their conclusion was basically “the amateurism and cronyism of her brief administration hardly leaves Palin sitting pretty.” Now, add to this the fact that she hired an administrator to do the “executive” part of the job when she was elected mayor of Wasilla, what does it say about her “executive experience” that makes her so qualified to be the Vice President (or President)? Why doesn’t the Obama Campaign make a big deal out of this???

12 10 2008
ocliberal

I too saw the Newsweek article this morning and am curious about the ramifications. This one line is tantalizing and I will repeat it again…
Palin is now scheduled to be questioned next week, and the counsel’s report could be released soon after. “We took a gamble when we went to the personnel board,” said a McCain aide who asked not to be identified discussing strategy. While the McCain camp still insists Palin “has nothing to hide,” it acknowledges a critical finding by Petumenos would be even harder to dismiss.

I wonder if Palin will start unraveling soon. The boos at the Flyer game last night must have been unnerving. I don’t think she’s heard too many boos yet as she has been so safely shielded by the McCain campaign speaking only to favorable, right-wing diehards.

The fall from being the adored messiah (her perception) to the public’s realization that she is just another flawed, ethically-challenged, self-serving lying Republican was amazingly swift even in repug-world terms.

I hope AKM can give us some perspective on the upcoming personnel board examination and what the ramifications of the board choosing Democrat independent council is going to mean to Ms. Palin who must sit down to be interviewed by them next week. It’s one thing to lie over the phone to reporters, it’s quite another to lie under oath. Is even Sarah Palin that delusional?

Also, I know this article has been mentioned here before, but this Salon article is a must-read about Sarah Palin. Written by a writer and photographer who has lived in Alaska for 30 years, I think it is the most honest and informative perspective we’ve seen on Palin yet.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/11/sarah_palin_alaska/

As for that frontierswoman shtick, take another look at that hairpiece-augmented beehive and those stiletto heels. Coming from a college-educated family, living in a half-million-dollar view home, basking in a net worth of $1.25 million, and having owned 40-some registered motorized vehicles in the past two decades (including 17 snowmobiles and a plane) hardly qualifies Palin and her clan as the quintessential Joe Six-Pack family unit — though the adulation from that quarter shows the Palins must be fulfilling some sort of role-model fantasy.

Palin can claim to know Alaska; the fact is, she’s seen only a minuscule fraction of it — and that doesn’t include Little Diomede Island, the one place in Alaska where you actually can see Russia. So she can ride an ATV and shoot guns. Set her down in the bush on her own and I bet we’d discover she’s about as adept at butchering a moose and building a fire at 40 below zero as she is at discussing Supreme Court decisions. And that mountain-woman act is only the tip of a hollow iceberg.

Sarah Palin is such a fraud – a every, single level.

12 10 2008
Lady Rose

I just have to share this will all of you – I was just accused of not supporting Palin because she is good looking and I’m not LOL

seriously I swear – here is the link to the comments
http://www.paulshealthblog.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-speaks-at-east-carolina.html#comment-form

(here’s a partial quote: Plus, she’s [Palin] good lookin’ and certain women resent her.(http://dietpulpit.com/about/) – that is my page with my photo.

and I truly do appreciate that he included a link to the page with my photo so all the world could see
LOL this has to be the funniest thing I ever heard

This is one not so good looking woman who is proud to NOT support Sarah Palin. hehehehehe

12 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Sorry, I hit the submit comment button before I was finished.

Why doesn’t this finding disqualify her from running for VP? What will the repercussions be? Will someone file for recall or impeachment? Will Monegan sur her for harassment? What’s the buzz and when will she disappear?

She is definitely a narcissist. I worked with a woman exactly like her and,as I read about Palin on the Huffington Post, it is these people who can look you straight in the eye, without blinking, and lie lie lie. They also truly believe that they have special privileges. I truly think that she does scare the bigeebees out of McCain (I see him brace himself every time she starts to open her mouth), but he so wants to be Pres before he dies that he has sold his soul to the lowest bidder!

12 10 2008
Lulu

No matter what is said publicly, you know McCain–even if he is only half there–deeply regrets having her on the ticket now. She has brought nothing but scandal and the ability to “rile up” the racist side of the GOP base.

That’s not hard to do. (Evidently, it’s also not hard to arouse GOP men….)

12 10 2008
deigratia

“World events do not occur by accident: They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.”
DON’T WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW….NO MATTER HOW LATE YOU GET
THIS. WATCH NOW! AND FORWARD IMMEDIATELY …… FAR AND WIDE !
http://deigratia.wordpress.com/

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

ocliberal

“I wonder if Palin will start unraveling soon.”

I think the unraveling has begun for both Palin and McCain.

From the International Herald Tribune..
“Obama’s fortunes were expected to get a further boost Sunday when former President Bill Clinton and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, make their first joint campaign appearance together on his behalf — setting aside hard feelings left over from the Democratic primary contest in which Obama outdistanced the former first lady in a bitter, extended race.”

And I think Hillary’s the perfect pitbull to accelerate that.

12 10 2008
shoeho

Read any book on how conservatives govern, and this is right out of the playbook. Black isn’t black, white isn’t white, and if one of their own (read “W,” Newt, etc) fails it’s not because conservatism is bad. It’s because he/she wasn’t A) conservative enough or B) was corrupted by the entrenched liberal power structure (HUH?).

Seriously, I’d recommend either of Thomas Frank’s fine works, “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” and “The Wrecking Crew.” Gives a whole new meaning to manipulation.

23 days, and hopefully those of us in the lower 48 will have heard the last of Sarah. For y’all in AK, you know what you need to do as far as a recall or whatever goes.

12 10 2008
willpen

I have also just read the Newsweek article and I am pleased to see that the mudpuppies are out there in force getting the word out already. For Sarah Palin De-Nile ain’t just a river in Egypt.

12 10 2008
Tom from PA

Someone wrote that Sarah Palin is scheduled to be on SNL on 10/25. I wonder how she would respond if she was booed Live From New York!!

12 10 2008
Lulu

Lady Rose,
If the only way they can dismiss you is through an “ad hominem” attack on your looks, then we know what kind of “good Christians” they are. And they can’t defend her policies on specifics!

You have exposed them. Well done and I’m sorry if they hurt your feelings.

12 10 2008
scdem

Two thoughts: 1) Palin is insane. Exhibit A = this entire blog.

2) Journalism as we once knew it is dead. Exhibit B = Faux News
Think about this. If Faux News and Limbaugh did not exist, where would the idiots get their so-called information? Somehow this crap has been elevated to news in the public’s mind. Legitimate press has followed suite by overreacting to ensure that both “political sides” get equal coverage. Nevermind that one “side” consists of total and complete bs that any 6th grader can debunk. Where is true journalism in all of this? What the hell happened to the “people have the right to know”? It has been replaced by “the parties have the right to tell you what they want you to think”. Truth is dead.

12 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

I could not bring myself to click the link to actually hear her voice spew those ridiculous statements. She is truly deluded.

I’m certain that she actually thinks she’s not guilty. She clearly threw todda-sauce under the bus, though. I guess she doesn’t care if he goes to jail for her, as long as she’d president (oops, VP). She’ll pardon him. I bet she’s thinking this all along.

There are many shoes to drop on this issue. We didn’t see the whole report. Besides the “new” House-gate saga is just starting to get legs. I’m sure there is more, and I hope that Obama or his surrogates pursue this stuff.

I’m also certain that the IRS will be doing their part. They don’t like getting stiffed on taxes that should have been paid on gifts, gifts which are being roundly broadcasted as such. Idiots.

12 10 2008
ocliberal

anonymous:ADN: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?

Palin: Yes, it is clear to me I violated state law, but worse than that, I violated every Alaskan citizens trust. I was wrong about Walt Monegan a truely honorable American who was loyal and dedicated to upholding our states laws, for this I can only express my most sincere apology to Walt and all Alaskans.
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I know you wrote this tongue-in-cheek, but seriously I would think this would be the best stategy Palin could adopt. The only thing the public hates worse than a lying, cheating fraud is an unrepentent lying, cheating fraud.

Palin would have so many options open to her if she just admitted her mistakes. By denying the findings of the investigation and blaming it on a partisan witchhunt, she destroys all chance of redemption and even forces her die-hard supporters to reevaluate her.

For such a devote Christian, she really hasn’t learned much about how Christianity works has she? My take on it has always been that the Lord hates a sinner but he loves to forgive them. But of course he can’t forgive one until they confess their sins.

But then again where would she start… She has violated so many things that the Lord hates, there probably isn’t enough time between now and election day for her to list all her trangressions and get ‘saved’ in time..

Poor Sarah… What a tangled web we weave…

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

Lulu (06:26:29) :

LOL I never said she was smart, just said she wasn’t stupid. In her world nothing sticks and she goes about her business spewing and believing her own lies. Talk about nailing Jello to a wall! Everyone (who is *anyone*) has politely called her out on her words and she just fluffs passed the obvious truth and makes it something else that suits her needs.

If Katie Couric (or Charlieee for that matter) had been allowed to grab her by the neck and pin her up to the wall (which I’m sure that thought crossed both of their minds) and threaten with *just answer the question dammit*, maybe she would have been forced to look in a mirror and think, *hey I can’t get away with my usual dodgeball maneuver.*

I guess people see what they want to see but from the moment she walked on that RNC stage and opened her mouth, my first impression was ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? McCain is insane. In the brain.

12 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

darn…typos…. good thing you all read Typonese!

12 10 2008
JFletcher/BMarcoMGC

Another interesting act by Governor Palin

State paid Palin church travel
Records: She spent $13,000 in tax funds on religious events

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news/politics.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-10-12-0128.html

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

scdem
“Truth is dead.”

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Except here. I totally agree about journalism. I laugh every time I hear the Faux News
brand “We Report, You Decide”. Nobody but the neo-cons think what they do is reporting.

12 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

As Alice said:

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn’t be, and what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?”

You betchya!

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

To all who are wondering why Obama’s team don’t rail at SP, it is the same reason we don’t feed trolls on this site. Give them air and they love it. Makes them more important than they are.

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

To all who are wondering why Obama’s team don’t rail at SP, it is the same reason we don’t feed trolls on this site. Give them air and they love it. Makes them more important than they are.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Forty Watt Hussein (07:24:08) :

As Alice said:

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn’t be, and what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?”

You betchya!
——————
Sad, but true. Thanks for the reminder.

12 10 2008
Erin

She is certifiable.

12 10 2008
Lulu

Disenchanted wrote: “but from the moment she walked on that RNC stage and opened her mouth, my first impression was ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? McCain is insane. In the brain.”

That was my spouse’s reaction as well!

And look where we are today.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

UK lady turning turtle Palinps (07:25:33) :

To all who are wondering why Obama’s team don’t rail at SP, it is the same reason we don’t feed trolls on this site. Give them air and they love it. Makes them more important than they are.
—————-
I agree about the not railing, but I think Hillary could lob some ‘salvos of truth’ in the McCain/Palin direction.

12 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

Then again, as AKM points out, there’s always Orwell:

“Winston had disliked her from the very first moment of seeing her. He knew the reason. It was because of the atmosphere of hockey-fields and cold baths and community hikes and general clean-mindedness which she managed to carry about her. He disliked nearly all woman, and especially the young and pretty ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”
– George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 1

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Wonder how this will play out.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93P0UH00&show_article=1&catnum=0

All is forgiven, my ass.

12 10 2008
Lulu

One last thought.

Hey, Sarah Palin. You might try this tried and true “Memo to Self”: the next time a lawyer from another state tells you to instigate an ethics hearing against YOURSELF, don’t do it.

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Crust Crumble – you are right as usual, and lets not forget, Biden and BOTH Clintons are doing a rally today!! Together! should be fun.

12 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (07:29:59) :

Wonder how this will play out.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93P0UH00&show_article=1&catnum=0

All is forgiven, my ass.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
McTaint to go on Letterman.

Get ready for a major outbusrts of anger.

I hope Letterman rips him and he explodes in front of the World….

12 10 2008
12 10 2008
White Agate

Well, after reading that transcript, I have to say, at least she’s consistent. I mean, sometimes someone is so in character you have to smile in a disgusted sort of way. She’s just going to brazen it out and spin it for all it’s worth.

That divorce must have been ugly, it still is. I don’t know the details, I’m sure they are not appropriate to discuss here, but I have had some painful divorces in my family. The unwillingness to forgive and forget can poison relationships for many years. That seems to be a big part of the level of denial I see here.

Again, this and the house project demonstrate not a ‘reform’ politician but someone who retooled the corrupt old ways to benefit family, self, and friends. Unfortunately, many people in Washington can relate to this, but personally, this is not the kind of public official I would ever want to hold office, let alone a VP spot. I don’t know the Alaska constitution at all, but the experts and citizens will I’m sure will figure out what’s appropriate. Censure? Impeachment? No reelection? Vote of no confidence? And then maybe a real change in Alaska governance?

It’s also total amateur hour. I mean, the Secret Service would have to have an entire unit devoted to this family if they, heaven forfend, got anywhere near the White House.

I know, I know, not the kids, but where is Bristol these days? Seeing Piper and Willow with Gov. Palin in Philly this weekend made me wonder if there has been a public sighting of Bristol since the GOP convention. I think I saw a baby photo of Trig on the tarmac somewhere last week, but no Bristol. Any folks from Alaska who live near there have any idea? And no talk of a wedding until next year or something, when a few weeks ago it was going to ‘shut down the campaign’ for a week.

Meanwhile, here in SE MN we are waiting for a visit from Michelle Obama (‘Mobama’) tomorrow. One classy woman. Can’t wait!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

UK lady turning turtle Palinps (07:31:29) :

Crust Crumble – you are right as usual
————
Thanks, UK Lady. Truthfully, I’m wrong about a lotta things, just not about SP!

Another interesting commentary – Palin needs to read her own state’s Constitution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12navasky.html?pagewanted=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

12 10 2008
ocliberal

http://www.dailykos.com/trendlines
Palin isn’t deluding or fooling anyone – only herself.

Palin’s ‘favorability’ rating has hit a new low today. She is now at -21. This is from being +16 on 9/11. She has fallen 37 points in a month.

Obama and Biden are both at a +30 and McCain is at -10.

Oh and according to the R2K polls Obama is up 13 points in the national polls today! 53 to 40 over McCain! Amazing!

And this is why Obama’s team doesn’t need to stoop to the despicable levels the McCain campaign is at now. Taking the high road is quite nice and pleasant, especially when one really is on the high road.

12 10 2008
drchill

janetshusb (06:30:26) :

The following comment is very picky: but I do wish we wouldn’t fall into the habit of renaming the candidates (e.g. Mc Same, McShame and worse). It takes away from the seriousness of our comments and often makes us sound as negative as the opposition
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I agree, but I don’t think its so picky.
such things can look vaguely amusing when you’re in on the joke, but when I see others do similar things against Obama & Biden, I cringe.
I have similar feelings about other kinds of simple but empty dismissiveness too; like hearing ‘boo hiss ‘at a rally.

What I like about AKM’s writing, is the focused attention on rational discourse, even about irrational things, and the separation of emotion from the analysis. The occasional expression of exasperation or incredulity seems to be a consequence of the analysis and not something that taints it.

So yes, anything that seems like insulting hissing and jeering from the crowd is rather distinct from what many of us admire about AKMs writing.

12 10 2008
TexanJane

Is there any way in the world you poor people can demand a recall when she gets back there? GAWD-almighty, she’s a blithering idiot. So long as she’s your fearless leader, she casts a sickening shadow on you good people.

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

Palin has rightly been described as a narcissist by several posters above. The only statement I would take issue with is the issue of lies. We know she is lying, but as a narcissist she truly believes what she is saying.

I think at sometime in the not-too-distant future Palin will become a textbook study in narcissism.

We all have a bit of the narcissist in us and in order to be a leader I believe one has to have even more narcissistic tendencies. HOWEVER, Palin seems to have full-blown NPD and that is very dangerous.

What are the ethics of a psychologist or psychiatrist commenting on her traits just from observation of her behavior over the last several weeks? If it could be done, I’d love to hear from an authority.

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

ATTENTION ALL MUDPUPPIES IN THE PITTSBURGH AND W.PA. AREA

PLEASE NOTE DATE CHANGE

All the Mudpuppies, their SO’s, and their family and friends in our area are holding our 1st Indoor Mini-MudStock get together this coming FRIDAY, OCTOBER 17th, 2008 at 6PM at either Saloon on the Strip or Rolands on Penn Avenue in the famous Strip District of Pittsburgh, PA.

SALOON ON THE STRIP (Strip District – 2117 Penn Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA)
http://www.saloononthestrip.com/

ROLANDS (Strip District – 1904 Penn Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA)
http://www.rolandsseafoodgrill.com/

The final location will be announced by direct e-mail list tomorrow night after we see who can best accommodate the size of the group. So far we are at 15 and counting.

To get in the loop to attend this growing event please contact me at the following e-mail: HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com

We think it is time to meet up in person for direct psychological support with the Presidential Election just a little over two weeks away this coming Friday! And in another week like this on Wall Street we may all need directions to the Jubilee soup kitchen in Homestead.

(All of you Mudpuppies worldwide can Google the Great Homestead Steel Strike of 1892 to learn something about the industrial history of our area!)

As I keep posting on the Mudflats, these two links just about say it all for all of us now regarding our newly discovered Mudpuppy friends!

We are now going to all meet in person in our area! Anyone out there in our area that wants to attend, please contact me. Thanks!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Thanks, UK Lady, but really I’m wrong about a buncha things, but not SP, thanks to y’all and this wonderful blog.

Interesting commentary on why Palin needs to read the Alaska Constitution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12navasky.
html?pagewanted=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

12 10 2008
drchill

White Agate (07:37:46) :

Well, after reading that transcript, I have to say, at least she’s consistent. I mean, sometimes someone is so in character you have to smile in a disgusted sort of way. She’s just going to brazen it out and spin it for all it’s worth.

============

I see it as her hope in audacity. ; )

12 10 2008
skunkgruntpalin

I was very touched by your picture of Walt Monegan’s mother — it made me think about how my own mother would have felt if I had been abruptly and publicly fired for “insubordination” and all those other reasons — and I wondering if Walt Monegan is considering suing Palin for unfair dismissal. If so, I would love to contribute to the Mrs Monegan Fund For Justice… it’s really too bad what has been done to this family.

I love it that Palin is calling this Tasergate. The taser incident, whatever the truth of it, has nothing to do with her callous decision to take a good man’s job away from him. Unless — come to think of it — that decision was motivated by revenge for the taser incident??? Hmmmmmm….

12 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Here’s the thing – Sarah Palin actually believes her own lies within 5 minutes of saying them.

She’s truly insane and needs to be institutionalized.

12 10 2008
Lila

If you can stomach listening to the audio, I found it worthwhile. Her pathology is even clearer when she is saying the words with her tones and emphases.

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132625

RACHEL MADDOW – Care to play this on your show with commentary?

12 10 2008
scdem

UK lady turning turtle Palinps (07:25:33) :

To all who are wondering why Obama’s team don’t rail at SP, it is the same reason we don’t feed trolls on this site. Give them air and they love it. Makes them more important than they are.

I agree about the trolls and generally about why Obama doesn’t directly go after her but I will also say that I know many people (who could be persuaded) that seem to think that if she were “that” bad, someone “official” would have called her on it. The fact that they don’t actually question her validity actually gives her some. I’m guessing they went with the strategy of “give her enough rope…” and so far its working to a certain degree. I guess that’s why I’m not a strategist😉 Unfortunately, McPalin’s ability to spin most of this stuff away works fine for the people here they are trying to reach.

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (07:29:59) :

Wonder how this will play out.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93P0UH00&show_article=1&catnum=0

All is forgiven, my ass.
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And I want to see Letterman’s rating for that night! From what I’ve read, no one crosses Letterman and gets away with it. More fodder for his writing team- youuu betcha!

12 10 2008
Xero

If that’s the high road, I’d hate to see the low road. I don’t think ‘positive’ means what she thinks it means.

12 10 2008
Allan

Burn the witch.

12 10 2008
Sally

She’s delusional and has obviously underestimated the Alaskan people, many of whom, now seem to be taking an active roll in trying to help the rest of the country get the information they need to get to know what Palin is really all about. Especially since she has managed to avoid any serious interviews with the press. How has she gotten away with that? I think all the news stations should boycott anything McCain wants to get out there until she is forced to give a real press conference. This is insane.

12 10 2008
rf11

Wow. Incredible.

I wonder how Sarah will describe the event of the deafening boos that greeted her at the hockey game in Philly last night. How sad that she exposed her 7-year old to this environment, with the plan that people would not boo if her jersey clad 7 year old was with her.

Family values, yes, indeed.

12 10 2008
BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin

Palin has rightly been described as a narcissist by several posters above. The only statement I would take issue with is the issue of lies. We know she is lying, but as a narcissist she truly believes what she is saying.

I think at sometime in the not-too-distant future Palin will become a textbook study in narcissism.

We all have a bit of the narcissist in us and in order to be a leader I believe one has to have even more narcissistic tendencies. HOWEVER, Palin seems to have full-blown NPD and that is very dangerous.

What are the ethics of a psychologist or psychiatrist commenting on her traits just from observation of her behavior over the last several weeks? If it could be done, I’d love to hear from an authority.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I agree with you. Only a full blown NPD case would tell such blatant lies that will obviously be recognized and found out by:

a) the authorities in legal matters

b) family members in personal matters (especially the kids who may not understand now, they will understand later that Mommy is a whack-job)

c) her “God” in spiritual matters

d) Joes six pack when she doesn’t deliver on the promises

She reminds me of that movie The Mask. There’s gotta be a little voice somewhere inside of her head whimpering “Somebody stop me!” because if not, she is beyond any help know to Human or God.

12 10 2008
obama4president

Does Palin think that everyone else is that stupid? I do not think she really believes her own words, she’s just hoping that everyone else will.

12 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

Oh man, I just read on the HuffPo that McLame is pulling out the POW card.

Wait. He was a POW? Who knew?

Did they also mention that he gave up crucial information to his captors to save his own hide? That he put other GI’s at risk so he could live another day? Ack… sickening. They need to avoid that landmine.

12 10 2008
drchill

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (07:27:53) :

UK lady turning turtle Palinps (07:25:33) :

To all who are wondering why Obama’s team don’t rail at SP, it is the same reason we don’t feed trolls on this site. Give them air and they love it. Makes them more important than they are.
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I agree about the not railing, but I think Hillary could lob some ’salvos of truth’ in the McCain/Palin direction.
===========================

Yes, someone like Hillary would be appropriate to – lob salvos of truth.

This seems appropriate here:

Never wrestle with a pig: You both get all dirty, and the pig likes it.

Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

12 10 2008
Winski

It’s becoming real clear that the Palins have taken the current experience with the nation spotlight as a vindication that lies always serve them best – anywhere. I just hope that Alaskans are as smart as they seem and will take the time (so far.. so good) to un-mask this complete scam of a governor.

Some have already had too much of the Cheeney/Rove KoolAide and will never recover. Most, it seems, have come to believe that they got sold a BAD bill of goods when Palin was elected. Can these Alaskans take it to the next level and rid themselves of this menace?? It seems from the current mood VERY LITTLE time will pass before we know the answer…

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey
12 10 2008
michiganvoter

What are the poor people of Alaska going to do with this loose cannon when the presidential election is over? You are stuck with a real winner up there. I would be willing to bet that if/when McCain loses, the Republican elite are going to drop her like a hot potato. They have been out there supporting her with their noses plugged as it is, hoping she’ll keep bringing in the heavy nut crowd. Good luck!

12 10 2008
Diane

This is one dangerous politician.
She has studied the rove/cheney hand book and has God on her side.

Ihope for the country’s sake that you get her back in Nov., but considering how the repubs stole the election in Florida and now Ohio 04 looks iffy, we may be stuck with her.

God help us all.

12 10 2008
rf11

But no, in John McCain’s mission here, in taking the high road, as you’re going to see too with a lot of unfair shots he has taken in this campaign with some of his opponents’ supporters, McCain and I taking the high road, being positive.

So, Palin thinks she’s taking the high road and being positive at her rallies?

The prospect of her being in any position of power is becoming increasingly frightening. I will pray for my fellow Americans in Alaska when Palin returns to her job there.

Too bad there was no law requiring resignation to run for national office.

12 10 2008
Lana, KY

I for one can’t wait to hear the Rally in Scranton today with Joe Biden and Bill & Hillary Clinton. Wish I could actually be there ~

12 10 2008
Diane

Susie in Jersey
Just read your post.
Could also apply to McCain.

I grew up on LI

12 10 2008
Marigold

Hmm…..So she says,
“I’m very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that.”

But then she went on to say that she thought the end result of the investigation was partisan, that the investigation was a partisan circus.

If she really thinks she has been cleared, why would she go on to discredit the investigation that “cleared” her?

Wouldn’t she be saying they did a great job?

Through the Looking Glass All Right…………

12 10 2008
Bobg

Susie in Jersey-Thanks for that link. I’m no medical professional but that link seems to fit Sarah Cutesy perfectly. It’s sad that the last line states that sufferers of this disorder rarely seek help.

http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/

12 10 2008
5 Little Hussein Peppers who love 'that one'

Palin is a kooky nuthead. She makes me dizzy when she talks…round and round and nothing ever makes sense and rufflin’ feather and such and rearin’ her empty head. The ‘interview’ was weird. They all are. Does she really talk like that? Or is that just a voice she uses to fit in with the common folk? It drives me nuts.
I am amazed she even got elected as Govn…sorry Alaska. It is amazing to see the Anti-Palin rallies and the involvement of the people, keep up the good work! I have passed Mudflats to everyone who will listen. We have to have hope!!

12 10 2008
scdem

The thing that really gripes my behind is that she is the darling of the religious fundies. Her appeal to them isn’t that she is a good Christian in the sense that Christians are about good things like tolerance, love, honesty, forgiveness and all those things most of us actually believe. Her appeal to them as a good Christian is her “holier than thou” attitude that supports a belief that any means (lies included) is acceptable to achieve success. In this case I am assuming success means banning abortion and gay marriage. When the “reality” for them is that lying is an acceptable means to an end, is it any wonder this stuff rolls off her tongue so easily?

12 10 2008
Miemaw from Texas

Obviously,

She has smiled, winked, and charmed and conned her way — all through her political career.

The ADN asked her if she has read the report — she replied she had “been briefed” on it.

Maybe she should just read it.

“Tasergate” Not!

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

Diane, I see it in McCain, also, but I don’t think he’s always been like that; Palin, it seems, has.

It’s her children for whom my heart aches. What mother’s with NDP do to their kids’ psyches is beyond belief. I think a good part of Bristol’s issues (and probably Track’s also) are a direct result of their mother’s personality disorder.

12 10 2008
shikago

Hear the cards falling?

Republican leaders said Saturday that they were worried Mr. McCain was heading for defeat

“I think you’re seeing a turning point,” said Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan.

Tommy Thompson former Governor of Wisconsin was asked if he was happy with Mr. McCain’s campaign, Mr. Thompson replied, “No,” and he added, “I don’t know who is.”

Pennsylvania, Robert A. Gleason Jr., the state Republican chairman “I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads.”

Republican congressman from Minnesota, is melting down because of the McCain campaign has no direction.

Mr. Danforth a retired Republican senator from Missouri said. “This is a year where everything that could go in Obama’s favor is going in Obama’s favor,” he said. “Everything that could go against McCain is against him.

McCain said yesterday “I’d like to remind you that the political pundits have been wrong several times,” Mr. McCain said, “and they’re wrong because we will win the state of Iowa in November.”

Today’s Iowa poll: Obama 54, McKillhim 41

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No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate, ugly and everything rotten in this country, oh, I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. 232 years, Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

You can’t hear it no matter which of the 7 homes you are in or wherever you are. We are a hurting nation, a nation in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, protecting our environment, reinstating our laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

Obama/Biden 08

ps: Remember Monday is “Indigenous Peoples Day” celebrate the people who really deserve our heartfelt thanks, for all they did and sacrificed for us.

12 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Susie in Jersey (07:39:54) :

Speaking as a psychologist, I can tell you that long distance diagnosing is considered to be inappropriate – it also created a major stink and a lawsuit during the Goldwater campaign in 1964 when a major magazine had a group of therapists “diagnose” Goldwater as being paranoid. On the other hand psychoanalytic commentary on political character types has always been accepted since Freud’s time. Erich Fromm was the best at this, which is why I referenced him earlier in this thread. If you look at the Anatomy of Human Destructiveness. You will find that his necrophilic personality applies very well here.

12 10 2008
pearl89

I listened to the audio over on ADN. In fact I listened to it twice. As shocking as it to read the transcript, it’s really unbelievable to hear her sayings the words in a straight forward, matter of fact way. It left me just shaking my head. It was as if my brain couldn’t process what my ears were hearing. I don’t know what is wrong with, but I do think she suffering from some type of mental illness. I, too, would love to see a psychiatrist’s report on her. I was also struck by the fact that she didn’t even read the report – an aide read it and briefed her intensely on the contents so maybe she doesn’t know what it says. I can’t believe she didn’t read it.

All the rest of the McCain campaign must suffer the same affliction. Saw Rick Davis on ( I think it was Meet the Press this morning) talking about how Obama’s campaign is so much more negative than McCain’s. Living in NC where the political ads are running almost nonstop, I can tell that’s not true.

12 10 2008
awake'n aware

Sarah Palin is a pathological liar. Today on the Fox News Sunday program Rick Davis called the Alaskan Legislative Investigation a “Kangaroo Court” run by an Obama supporter.

Keep feeding the light. Raise your internal vibrations. Ignore the fear mongers. Let’s concentrate on winning these elections!

12 10 2008
shikago

Hear the cards falling?

Republican leaders said Saturday that they were worried Mr. McCain was heading for defeat

“I think you’re seeing a turning point,” said Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan.

Tommy Thompson former Governor of Wisconsin was asked if he was happy with Mr. McCain’s campaign, Mr. Thompson replied, “No,” and he added, “I don’t know who is.”

Pennsylvania, Robert A. Gleason Jr., the state Republican chairman “I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads.”

Republican congressman from Minnesota, is melting down because of the McCain campaign has no direction.

Mr. Danforth a retired Republican senator from Missouri said. “This is a year where everything that could go in Obama’s favor is going in Obama’s favor,” he said. “Everything that could go against McCain is against him.

McCain said yesterday “I’d like to remind you that the political pundits have been wrong several times,” Mr. McCain said, “and they’re wrong because we will win the state of Iowa in November.”

Iowa poll: Obama 54, McKillhim 41

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

ps: Remember Monday is “Indigenous Peoples Day” a day for us to express our sincere appreciation for everything Native American, and celebrate all they shared and sacrificed for us.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

@Marigold (08:02:30) :

Hmm…..So she says,
“I’m very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that.”

But then she went on to say that she thought the end result of the investigation was partisan, that the investigation was a partisan circus.
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Tucker Bounds said the same thing to Chris Jansing yesterday and she replied” Oh no, no, no, you can’t have it both ways!” Go Chris …call them on it.

12 10 2008
ds55

@ Miemaw from Texas (08:10:29) : //The ADN asked her if she has read the report — she replied she had “been briefed” on it. //

They told Sarah what they wanted Sarah to know. She’s so ignorant, she didn’t read the report herself, she relied on others to interpret it for her. She has no idea when the campaign is over, she’ll be surprised to see how much trouble she’s in.

12 10 2008
drchill

The investigation was about her firing Monegan, and she was cleared.

Take a deep breath, and meditate on that.

The only finding against her was her failure to act to restrain others from applying pressure to fire Wooten.

If they ever choose to directly address it, they will, as they have hinted, say that Todd was being (over)protective of his sister, and golly who can blame him for that!?

The report is not an indictment or a verdict of guilt.
It doesn’t help to misunderstand that.

12 10 2008
thelogicalsmoker

She is delusional…bottom line…

The sad part is I realllly think she believes the shit she says lol

Frankly…its just absurd to spend an entire week trying to assault someones character when at the end of the same week yours is called into question…

This is becoming a joke for the McCain campaign…and the pundits on the Sunday morning shows weren’t afraid to say it either…

http://andthisismyamerica.com/2008/10/12/the-grim-realities-of-a-financial-crisis/

12 10 2008
Liz I.

This is great reporting–again!–from this wonderful blog. As a former Alaskan, I am telling everyone I know to come here for the smartest, sharpest, on the ground perspective.

Guys, please Digg this story up! Please share this writing.

Digg it!

And Mudflats, where’s your Digg button?

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

eajphd Molten Contra Palin (08:18:03) :

WOW – necrophilic personality – doesn’t that deal with a love or fascination with death? Now you’ve given me some research to undertake? Will a layperson under Fromm?

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

@Marigold
Very good point. She makes it impossible to play devil’s advocate.

@Susie
My thoughts exactly. Those poor, poor children. I was raised by an extreme religious fanatic and as a child, it really messes with your head to have your own parent contradict what 95% of the world thinks is true.

12 10 2008
Maddie

Call me extremely cynical after the last 8 years, but I don’t see SP’s political career as over if she & McCain lose (as fingers-crossed & barring vote rigging, they will).

Her “brand” is being in tested in a firestorm, and even though a lot of us can see through all the b.s., she has a lot appeal for some elements. Given that, what should be of concern to us all is that she may go low-profile for a while to have some political grooming: all the rough edges smoothed, some heavy-duty training to sublimate the particularly odious character elements.

It would be horrible to have her emerge 8 years from now with greater sophistication. She’s awful, etc., but unfortunately no dummy.

12 10 2008
scdem

Maddie,
Her “brand” is being in tested in a firestorm, and even though a lot of us can see through all the b.s., she has a lot appeal for some elements.

I couldn’t agree more.

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

I know I said I wouldn’t but I couldn’t help myself. Yes, I listened to the interview! OMG! I envisioned her propped back getting a pedicure while clutching her crumpled talking points.

And after kissing myself for listening, I’ve come to the conclusion that she speaks *steno*!! Guess she snoozed through the class that prepared her to translate those notes.

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

and I snoozed through the proofreading class I guess! LOLOL

Make that KICKING myself😉

12 10 2008
dsr

it looks like palin is getting away with the troopergate thing.. how is that???
i hate to think of our country if mccain gets in office. just what has the last years with bush goten us? a war we can’t afford, big job losses, debt to other countries,factories moving overseas, where will it all go?
if they get in they will set women back 50 years… roe vs wade will no more be. women will still get abortions, but not in the safe ways they can now.
come on people …Wake Up

12 10 2008
Maddie

A friend of mine sent this link to me this morning –don’t know if this has been posted on this thread yet:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathlyn-and-gay-hendricks/body-politics-sarah-palin_b_132785.html

“At least when John McCain lies, his body screams his discomfort by putting on an eye-catching display of twitches, phony smiles and robot moves. McCain’s body language is so strange that it’s easily observable; he appears to be operated by a puppeteer who is a couple of triple-espressos over the line. That’s a good thing, though. We’d much rather have a presidential candidate who reads like a comic book when he’s lying than one who conceals those whoppers under a grin and a wink. Sarah Palin belts out her deceptions and distractions with a radiant confidence we usually only see in sociopaths and infomercial pitch-persons. The last public figure we saw who could grin and lie with that kind of sunny confidence was O. J. Simpson.”

12 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose "that one" Hussein hotrod palin

What a kick it would be to hear Keith or Rachel read this transcript verbatim on national television! Send it on dear mudpuppies (I have!). It would be just plain un-American for us to keep this gem to ourselves!🙂

hoseHusseinhotrod

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Now, I am convinced she’s the Anti-Christ.

12 10 2008
Lulu

Maddie wrote: “It would be horrible to have her emerge 8 years from now with greater sophistication. She’s awful, etc., but unfortunately no dummy.”

No offense, but I beg to differ. Palin is a total dummy. She is a prop for others who control what she dresses, says and does.

Will she be held accountable ever? I don’t know. We let the same type of behavior slide by for 8 years from Bush/Cheney. And I hold myself accountable as well, for letting the slide happen.

12 10 2008
Pacificnwgal

Incredible. I do not think she is delusional. She is a pathelogical liar. She really believes herself. And unfortunately she has people to back her up. The other problem is with our own culture. Does anyone truly listen to anyone anymore? If people were listening to what she is saying, they would not vote for her. But, people just believe what they want to. It is Americans who are in a total state of denial. Things are what they are….. NOT what they seem.

12 10 2008
HoosierMama

Perhaps she meant to say “maverick” not “rogue”.

12 10 2008
kokofish palin

Shout out to AKM!

Quoting from an LA Times story this morning 10/12, it seems that the ineptness of SP has spread to her attorneys:

In a biting response to the report compiled by investigator Stephen Branchflower for Alaska’s bipartisan Legislatative Council, Anchorage attorney Thomas Van Flein and his partners said the ethics law that Branchflower said had been violated was intended to address cases in which a public official had a financial interest, not merely a personal one.

“There is no accusation, no finding and no facts that money or financial gain to the governor was involved” in a July decision to replace Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, Van Flein said in a letter released late Friday.

The Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act stated that ‘each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.’ Palin’s attorneys did not return calls Saturday. End Excerpt

The Report — as SoCal Bob and others have pointed out — narrowed her problem to an ethics violation. It’s the behavior, stupid (play on “it’s the economy stupid”) for which there is no defense. Since she filed the ethics complaint against herself with the Personnel Board — looks like she will be enabling her own downfall.

I have no words for that.

12 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose "that one" Hussein hotrod palin

Just re-posting this. I was last on the previous thread. This in response to Shoeho who asked about the rest of the world’s “take” on Obama.
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Go to http://www.theworldwantsobama.org/ They have lots of links to specific country’s organizations for Obama and some great articles about how his presidency would make a difference in the world.

Another favorite site of mine is http://www.englandforobama.com/
(Actually, I think someone from the latter site is spending time among the mudflatters).🙂

hose Hussein hotrod

12 10 2008
daMama

Not acceptable, not in the least acceptable.

Why, pray tell, does the media simply roll over and take this garbage from her? You all know as well (as you know the sun comes up in the east and sets in the west), that NO OTHER POLITICIAN could ever in a million years get away with that crap. If it were Sen. Clinton pulling this, every media outlet on the planet would be roasting her in no time flat. The “But I’m a girl” excuse does not cut it with this woman or any other woman I know.

Man, sometimes I just want to slap her around with a wet smelly trout. (my apologies to any trout/trout lovers out there)

12 10 2008
scdem

Lulu,

No offense, but I beg to differ. Palin is a total dummy. She is a prop for others who control what she dresses, says and does.

While I agree with this statement, I also believe her “future” will continue to be guaranteed because of it. Not one single intelligent Republican (and yes there are about 6 of them out there) believes for a second that those “in power” in the party have any intension of turning over control of their party or this country to her. They know she is being used to rally the “stupids” (by the way that’s their word not mine – although I agree) to get the fundamentalist right wingers to rally the church vote. As long as she is valuable to them for that they will continue to use her. Make no mistake – none this has reduced her support among that group. In this way, the Republicans are not putting the blame in free-fall of polls on Palin, they are blaming McCain for not pulling in the independents and losing the smart Republicans. This was a math game and it’s McCain who hasn’t been able to pull his numbers. Never mind that it is Palin who is scaring the sh** out of them.

12 10 2008
Jean

Completely outrageous. It is simply amazing this woman is a candidate for vice president.

12 10 2008
Cynamen Hussein Alaska Blue

Slightly off-topic, but we know how that “guilt by association” works:

HONEST REPUBLICANS SPEAK OUT – McCain stealing election & Voting rights of Troops

http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/10/05/opinion/hjjbijjejjigfj.txt

Spread the word ~ and remain ever vigilant!

12 10 2008
drchill

dsr (08:38:57) :

it looks like palin is getting away with the troopergate thing.. how is that???

———–

Its important to keep up the pressure and understand that the report is ‘just’ a finding.

Just keep repeating ‘ethical violation.’
It may take this and other ‘gates’ to bring her down… and even then some will not choose to believe what the evidence is pointing to…

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

From the Sunday London Times:

McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality

“Palin, 44, has led the character attacks on Obama in the belief that McCain may be throwing away the election and her chance of becoming vice-president. Her supporters think that if the Republican ticket loses on November 4, she should run for president in 2012.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4926283.ece

How bad has is gotten when we have to read the European newspapers to get at the truth?

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Grettings Muddies..

Gee, all sorts of stuff since i went to bed at 3 am..

The blatent, and blind vision Palin has is almost unbelievable. She clearly has no moral compass, and her focus is simply to win, even if it means lying to everyone about everything.

The McGrumpy campaign clearly knows what they bought in creating Sarah v 2.2, they created what they hoped would be some sort of Fountain of Youth for the McAncient campaign, instead this is what they ended up with: a vacuous, intellect-missing, Godless mass of cells made to look sort of human. They gave it legs and a clever option, (cost $1million) an eye that can wink, and a butt to wiggle. They bought it expensive clothes and a professional makeup artist, several versions of hair styles, depending on what their insane, crazies found the most alluring, so the uneducated lemmings who adore it can fantasize.

The problem is, as in A Space Odessy, their creation took over and attempted to destroy those who created it. Now, Sarah v2.2 is on the path of destruction as well. The entire mess McCain created was his own doing.. He went off, mixed some chemicals and built Sarah v2.2 and now he has to accept it’s consequences. Sarah v2.2 has built in survival skills and a nu-q-ler core, programmed to detonate if there is no option. Sarah v2.2 has started the self-destruct/mutual assured destruction clock. Stand back 1000 feet, for when it blows, it’s gonna be messy ya all.. wink wink.

12 10 2008
DEE

Don’t worry about what anyone says!Don’t pay attention to the polls!Just get out and vote! Vote early! Don’t wait until the last minute! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!Do not become overconfident! It’s not over until after NOVEMBER 4th! We must win this thing!The world is watching!

Obama/Biden 08-12!

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

Darn ……. the link is getting cut off ……. will try again but if it doesn’t work, just Google the headine.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4926283.ece

12 10 2008
Halcrow

Todd did what anyone would have done given this state trooper’s very, very troubling behavior and his dangerous threats against our family. Todd did what I think any Alaskan would do.

God help those three girls (Track is out of it, now) who have to be in daily contact with this woman, who’s captaining her own personal Titanic in Never Never Land. When the bubble bursts, and the Secret Service leaves, the Palin parents (and the Heath family) are going to have to serve to themselves and the kids industrial-size servings of the purple Kool-Aid on a daily basis in an attempt to keep reality at bay.

IMO, where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and that house built by Todd and friends just might topple this whole house of cards. Without political support and Republican fair-weather friends, this mom-and-pop operation (which seemingly was built upon the backs of a fair portion of the Alaskan population) should come to a rapid end…and, without money, the First Dude won’t be racing or flying high.

IMO, the comments above could be parlayed, via an aggressive lawyer, into a fairly substantial lawsuit against the state of Alaska and the Palins personally.

I seem to recall reading that Stevens has expended more than a million dollars of his campaign funds in legal fees: Palin won’t have a slush fund like that and, under the present cloud, potential doners should consider her dead meat and decline to contribute to the miracle of her possible resurrection (but certain Wooten- and residence-related legal bills).

12 10 2008
PJ

What do you expect? She’s a nut.

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

Second quote from same Times article”

“Sarah Palin is no fool. She sees the same thing and wants to salvage what she can. She is positioning herself for the future. Her best days could be in front of her. She wants to look as though she was the fighter, the person with the spunk who was out there taking it to the Democrats.”

OK Mudpies, it’s on! She’s dumping him!

12 10 2008
BobbyG

Good morning, Alaska!

http://www.bgladd.com/Obama

VOTE OBAMA-BIDEN. Enough is enough!

12 10 2008
Michael

Those questions were really lame. What’s up with this one?

ADN: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?

What is she supposed to answer to that? They might as well just tell her to please explain why she’s really innocent!

12 10 2008
reveur1147 aka Hussein NOpalin

An outstanding piece, as usual, AKM🙂 Truly, Alice, er, Sarah, continues her descent down into the darkness of her own delusions, while Tweedledum aka McCain lurches about as though he has downed a potion….Meanwhile, our Cheshire Cat Barack just looks on and smiles !

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

Times article ends like this:

“In Wilmington, Palin’s many admirers were in no doubt that she should run for president next time. Nancy Ross, a hairdresser, 45, said if the Republicans lost the election, she would be cheered up by the thought of Palin as the 2012 nominee.

“I would absolutely love her to run in four years’ time. By then most of her kids will be grown,” she said. “I’d like her to run against Hillary [Clinton]. She would squash her. She is a real person and we need people like her in Washington.”

Mary Ann Black, 58, a human resources director, said: “I love her. She’s so authentic.” Although she thought highly of McCain as well, Black added: “Her career is just beginning and his is in the twilight.”

Thanks London …….

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Is the infamous Palin-McCain rally payer in Iowa reallly below hidden code for “would some white supremacist idiot finally go ahead and behead Obama so Sarah Palin I mean God can pardon you and by the way our white Christian God will give you 144 virgins when you get to heaven?” … if McCain is sincere about putting “Country First” vs. just winning, he would resign today and unveil to the world that his running mate is half-devil mind, half-barracuda teeth.

“I would also pray Lord that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their God — whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his [McCain’s] opponent wins for a variety of reasons.

And Lord I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you would step forward and honor your own name in all that happens between now and Election Day.”

12 10 2008
schnauzer

I think SP is going to be answering some hard questions asked by the people who brought down Al Capone… If not, well the Alaska legislature has demonstrated that they have the will to ask some hard questions themselves. And of course the inhabitants of the mudflats can see SP glass house and will be asking questions.

May you live in interesting times Gov.

12 10 2008
Lady Rose

Lulu thanks for your kind words — there is no way that person could ever hurt my feelings, I’m confident enough in myself as a woman and a human being with brain to not let insults get to me even if I was covered warts and hand hump back (not that there is anything wrong with that) 🙂

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Something I find incredibly curious in this mess..

ds55 (06:54:37) :

Troopergate Part 2: It’s Not Over Yet
From Newsweek Magazine – http://www.newsweek.com/id/163465
“We took a gamble when we went to the personnel board,” said a McCain aide who asked not to be identified discussing strategy. While the McCain camp still insists Palin “has nothing to hide,” it acknowledges a critical finding by Petumenos would be even harder to dismiss.”

What I really don’t understand is why McGrouchy would have ANYTHING to do with a state of Alaska matter. This is not a national, or political issue, it’s a dispute between the AK Gov and the AK Legislature. There is nothing in this dog and pony show that should involve McIdiots operatives. Yet, they stick their nose in and so far, it’s backfired fairly substantially.

12 10 2008
pj

some of you called the hockey-scene right!
on msnbc, just now, a man was explaining how Palin’s youngest dtr was dressed in a jersey to “mitigate” the expected bad reaction.
for you that were correct, i apologise for doubting, as a mom and grandma I just didn’t want to believe it I guess! But if her own campaign is admitting that her children are props (as in property to be used to one’s own advantage) who am I to argue.
there must be a special place in hell…

12 10 2008
mary b

Can Alaskan’s do a recall on their Govenor?
For all your sakes, I sure hope so. Imagine how much more meaner and vindictive she will be having lost the election.
I give you bloggers and (supporters) a lot of credit for standing strong and speaking out. Just, be carefull for when she’s shipped back.
The rest of us do not want her, either.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

From the BBC.

106-year-old voter chooses Obama
By David Willey
BBC News, Rome

A 106-year-old American nun living in a convent in Rome could well be the oldest person to vote in the 2008 US Presidential election.

Sister Cecilia Gaudette, who last voted for President Eisenhower in 1952, has registered to vote and says she will vote for Democrat Barack Obama.

Although hard of hearing, she keeps herself informed by reading newspapers and watching TV at the convent.

“I’m encouraged by Senator Obama,” she says.

“I’ve never met him, but he seems to be a good man with a good private life. That’s the first thing. Then he must be able to govern,” she adds.

Sitting in her modest office in the convent where she has lived for the past 50 years, the diminutive nun appears uninterested in the row inside the American Catholic church over Senator Obama’s support for pro-choice policies on abortion.

Asked about her hopes for the US under an Obama presidency, she says: “Peace abroad. I don’t worry about the Iraq war because I can’t do anything about it. Lord knows how it will end.”

“It is very complicated,” she said. “Those Eastern people are not like we are.”

But despite taking part in the 4 November election, Sister Cecilia does not intend to return to the US.

“I have no plans for the future. I am too old to go back to the US. Life has changed too much.”

But she still watches “very important events” on TV. The election comes under this category.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7665925.stm

12 10 2008
Michele

Read the reader comments on this story at ADN. Aye-yi-yi. People still don’t get that this is about what she did (abuse her authority) and not why she did it (to supposedly protect her family). There was a time (think back to Nixon) when the population would have been outraged by such bold abuses and lies. Now we rationalize them or try to actually defend the perpetrator.

Any legal types on the forum? Is there any legal jeopardy in her publicly saying she was fully exonerated despite the findings of the report? Could she at least be made to cease and desist with the false statements?

12 10 2008
Michele

Anyone know the makeup of the Personnel Board? Are these actual civil servants or are they the Govs lackies?

12 10 2008
THAT ONE TiredMom HUSSEIN

PJ you are right … there HAS to be a special place in hell for a mother like her! I have been questioning her parenting from the beginning. None of us are perfect moms, many of us do our best and our kids still screw up, but poor little Trig and Piper deserve better. She needs to stop dragging the little ones around the country to these large events. My grandson is exactly the same age as Trig, thankfully he doesn’t have special needs, but he freaks out every time someone coughs loudly. How are these large crowds and their noise affecting that sweet little boy? Ughhhhh….. I cannot stand this woman!

12 10 2008
Jackie Lee

Another brilliant post, AKM!

I just signed up to vote for AKMuckraker in the Blogger’s Choice Awardunder the Best Political Blog category.

If anyone has not taken action yet, I recommend we help AKM get the attention and kudos she deserves.

Thank you for sharing your insights!

12 10 2008
Sally

For those of you who continue to defend Palin on the basis that the “Troopergate” report does not find her guilty of breaking any laws, may I just say you are correct, but what it does find her guilty of is even worst. She is guilty of having shown no respect for the office she holds or the Alaskan people, by allowing her husband, Todd Palin, seemingly unlimited access to government employees to promote a personal vendetta and her reaction to the findings of the report are dismissive at best. Which speaks volumes about her character. It’s like Cheney in a dress and to even entertain the thought of her coming back and running for President in 2012 is a joke. That anyone still defends her at all is amazing to me.

12 10 2008
Krystal

Honestly, I don’t know how much Troopergate will effect this election, but I think it just may affect any hope she has as being president. Think of the crap that has come out about this women and would be thrown at her. The base”loves” her but they are dwindling and she has limited appeal with everyone else. Besides, she would actually have to give interviews and press conferences and I really do think she is quite stupid. She can get away with some of this stuff as vp, but I think she might be toast otherwise. She will probably run and we may never totally get rid of her, but I don’t see her winning. Shes the ultimate mean girl and by the time most of us escape high school, we are tired of mean girls. And Hilary would eat her alive….

12 10 2008
Halcrow

The BBC has a 14-minute video titled, “Vote rigging and suppression”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7658182.stm

How can the voting process in America be so complicated and so open to abuse? In Canada, everyone one who files an income tax return can, by ticking a box, opt to be included in the voters registry (most people, especially seniors and those with children, file tax returns in order to be plugged into various income-based subsidy programs).

12 10 2008
drchill

More spin –

“Lawyers for Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin assailed the legislative inquiry released Friday that found the governor abused her authority in … saying the report misconstrues the state ethics law in an attempt to “smear” the Republican vice-presidential nominee.

In a biting response to the report by investigator Stephen Branchflower for Alaska’s bipartisan Legislative Council, Anchorage attorney Thomas Van Flein and his partners said the ethics law that Branchflower says was violated is intended to address cases in which a public official has a financial interest, not merely a personal one.

“There is no accusation, no finding and no facts that money or financial gain to the governor was involved,” Van Flein said …”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/6053774.html

So the one finding against her is being dismissed as partisan and wrong.

I have read the report, and Van Flein is pulling this out of his uh …briefs…
the law states clearly, and its in the report, that any kind of personal (or familial ) benefit, with improper motivation, by action or inaction, constitutes an ethics violation.

Her families obsession with Wooten was far more well documented than her own. She is bound by law to act to prevent undue influence when she can act to prevent it.

The report concludes she knew about it and failed to correct it.
There does not seem to be enough evidence that she promoted the improper influence.

Maybe its in one of her many email accounts.
Her emails may be the ‘Nixon white house tapes’ of the 21st century.

if we can see them in time,I think the emails will be her downfall, for two reasons.
1: They will show that she was hiding official business,
2: the official business she was hiding was improper, possibly conspiring to fire Wooten or even Monegan, and who knows what else?

12 10 2008
Bad Dog

I smell maverick manure and pitbull bull shot.

From everything I’ve seen, her children are taking care of her newborn special needs baby. Nice parenting. Babies don’t need their moms. Easy to see why her kids are turning out so well.

Can you imagine what McCain / Palin’s own campaign would say if Obama had a juvenile delinquent son, an unwed teenage daughter, and if he virtually ignored his newborn Downs Syndrome baby to further his own career?

I am so over the War Hero and Brady Bunch Mom.

12 10 2008
nswfm

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin (06:39:43) :

Wow. Just wow. Also.

OK, you just totally cracked me up!

I’m in Southern California, and I can see her pants are on fire from all the way down here. She needs to be put in a mental institution and evaluated, IMHO.

Then, I’m hoping the fine people of Alaska wake up and say we’re recalling this kook and getting some real adults running this show instead of Sideshow Sarah Palin and her Married Men.

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

@ Miemaw from Texas (08:10:29) :

The ADN asked her if she has read the report — she replied she had “been briefed” on it.

———————————————————–

Sounds to me like the Bush policy – only tell me what I WANT to know – not what I NEED to know

I believe the correct term is MUSHROOM – kept in the dark & fed Bullsh*t Perhaps in AK its MOOSE-doo

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

“The thing that really gripes my behind is that she is the darling of the religious fundies. Her appeal to them isn’t that she is a good Christian in the sense that Christians are about good things like tolerance, love, honesty, forgiveness and all those things most of us actually believe. Her appeal to them as a good Christian is her “holier than thou” attitude that supports a belief that any means (lies included) is acceptable to achieve success. In this case I am assuming success means banning abortion and gay marriage. When the “reality” for them is that lying is an acceptable means to an end, is it any wonder this stuff rolls off her tongue so easily?” SCDem

———————
I quoted SCDem’s comments to say this (BTW, I agree with you). My Mom is an active
Southern Baptist Christian. She disagrees with many of their positions, but she is active in her Church and volunteers with their preschool education program and their outreach mission. She suggested I read a book called “Unchristian”, which I have just started. That in turn led me to the Barna Group which is where the following thread comes from.
http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=Perspective&PerspectiveID=28
I truly believe that this election spells the death knell of Palin and the GOP. Things
have radically changed in this world.

From the Washington Times on Gen Y’ers:
The Reboot survey further found that Generation Y was “more liberal and progressive” than older generations, both in political leanings and on social issues such as homosexual “marriage” and immigration. Fifty-four percent of voters younger than 30 voted for Sen. John Kerry last year — the only age group the Democratic presidential candidate carried, the study noted.
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2005/apr/12/20050412-121457-4149r/

Unless the GOP and fundamentalist Christians radically change, I see them going the way of the dinosaur, by way of Generations X and Y, with a lot of help from the elderly (like my Mom – 86 year old Obama supporter).

12 10 2008
Sally

Krystal,

You are so right. “Mean Girls” describes her exactly.

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Check this out.. Palin has always been a press dictator..

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/how-palin-handl.html

12 10 2008
Michele

Sharon Hussein/CA (08:56:28) :T

Thanks for the link to the Times of London. A couple of things occurred to me while reading the article: 1.) McCain intentionally hired Tucker Eskew, the hate monger who won Bush’s slime primary campaign in 2000 by inferring that McCain’s Bangladeshi adopted daughter was in fact his illegitimate black daughter. What did he think would happen when he unleashed a woman who is both ambitious, woefully under-educated and a known sympathizer with extremist right wing groups? It’s a little rich for him to be acting surprised about this. 2.) Is there anyone who didn’t see this coming? Her short political career is littered with the bodies of those who helped her achieve her goals. Coupled with her complete inability for introspection, she would believe her own press. She no doubt feels she is totally qualified to be president in 2012. The rabid right wing has a new darling and she will now be part of national politics for a long time. Thanks, John McCain.

12 10 2008
Independent in AZ

8 Top Newspapers Endorse Obama Today

“Barack Obama picked up at least eight newspaper endorsements this weekend, including four in swing states Wisconsin, Pennsyvlania, Ohio and Missouri. John McCain, as far as we know, gained none.”

By (E&P) Editor & Publisher Staff
Published: October 12, 2008 5:30 PM ET

12 10 2008
waxman

Found this comment on the Buckey Article in the Daily Beast. I apologize if it has already been posted. Don’t know it if is true – but iI found it interesting – What a 180 to McCain / Pailin.

“notreadyfortherockingchai

If you think Obama is mediocre at best you are wrong read the following
Obama’s IQ The Highest Of Any President Ever.

The former Guidance Counselor of Obama’s private Hawaiian school supplied
The Washington Post with a certified copy of Obama’s Stanford-Banai IQ
Certification, one of which was taken in 1966 when he was a kindergardener
in Hawaii before moving to Indonesia, and one which taken as entrance
protocol as a freshman in his private Honolulu private highschool.

His IQ was clocked at 172 and 166 respectively (IQ’s normally have a
fluctuation of 6 or 7 points from test to test so that discrepency is
normal).

That puts Obama in the certifiable clinical genius category.

Obama’s campaign was not happy about The Washington Post preparing to
disclose the information, because they feared it would add to his
reputation as not an “everyman” and being too “elitist”.

lthough I agree that there are those who may see Obama’s IQ as further
proof that he must be “elitist,” I don’t understand their reasoning.

Like, Jon Stewart: I want a President who makes me feel like a blithering
idiot.

Unless those naysayers, who would proclaim, “See, he”s ‘elitist,'” have
come up with viable solutions – to myriad problems facing our nation . . .
it stands to reason that we *need* someone who can “OUT THINK” the rest of
us.

I say, “BRING HIM ON!”

12 10 2008
Michele

Krystal (09:27:23) :

I wish that that were so, but look at McCain and the Keating Five thing, which was arguably worse. People forget this stuff and Palin’s spin machine is in overdrive. It would be nice if we could have a law that made it illegal for a person with a known ethics violation run for the top office in the land. Common sense would dictate that that should not be necessary, but look at where we are: The first ticket in history where both candidates have a known ethics violation before the election.

12 10 2008
nswfm

from the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-todd12-2008oct12,0,6624850.story

Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd, was a fixture at governor’s office

The ‘first gentleman’ also read official correspondence and went to closed Cabinet meetings, records and an investigation indicate.
By Kim Murphy, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 12, 2008
Barely two weeks after Sarah Palin had been sworn in as Alaska’s governor, in December 2006, then-Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan’s executive secretary got a confusing phone call from Palin’s office: The first gentleman would like to schedule a meeting with her boss.

“I was not familiar with the term ‘first gentleman,’ or didn’t hear her correctly, so I kept asking her, ‘Who?’ ” the secretary, Cassandra Byrne, testified recently. “And she eventually said, ‘Todd Palin.’ ”

Obama makes four stops in Philadelphia McCain campaign sees Iowa as still in…Obama rides a wave of bad economic news
Lawyers for Sarah Palin say report is effort to ‘smear’ her

The appointment was fixed, and Monegan arrived in the governor’s office to find himself alone with the brawny, popular fisherman and snowmobile champion, who was sitting at a 12-foot-long conference table, surrounded by stacks of documents. One of the documents had the logo and letterhead of Monegan’s own Department of Public Safety.

The subject, it turned out, was Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a messy divorce with the governor’s sister. The Palins, Todd made clear, wanted Wooten fired for a long record of behavior they saw as inappropriate for a police officer.

“He kept using the term ‘we.’ ‘We went to go talk to, we, we.’ And so I assumed it was he and Sarah, of course,” Monegan testified.

The meeting “made me a little uncomfortable,” he said. “We’re having it in the governor’s office, and he’s not the governor. I think he was trying to use state trappings to handle a personal issue.”

Todd Palin would become a familiar voice for the Palin administration. Independent legislative investigator Stephen Branchflower’s report on Monegan’s subsequent firing — in part, the investigation found, because he wouldn’t fire Wooten — contains an exhaustive record of Todd Palin’s frequent and intimate presence in the day-to-day workings of his wife’s administration.

Testimony compiled as part of the inquiry, and The Times’ own review of e-mail logs from the administration, show that Todd Palin was a fixture in the governor’s office, spending about half of his time there. He attended Cabinet meetings that are supposed to be closed to the public, and was copied on a wide variety of high-level government correspondence on issues such as contract negotiations with the police officers union, Alaska Native issues and the privatization of a dairy near the Palins’ hometown of Wasilla.

How is this allowed? She thought it was “take our daughters to work day” so instead she brings her husband? She has such great executive experience that she needs to bring her husband to meetings? If she had a real job, would she need to take her husband to work there, too?

12 10 2008
Which is it, guys? Issues or Mud? « The Partial Muse

[…] it’s found out that Sarah Palin did indeed abuse her power as governor. Not only does Palin flat-out deny the fact that she was ruled against, but she suspiciously stops talking about the issues, except […]

12 10 2008
DF

I’m a little confused as to why McCain/Palin continues to be favored by Alaskans. As a previous Alaskan, I thought Alaska was full of intelligent people who recognize a delusional rogue when they see one. By the way, I submitted a note to Saturday Night Live and asked them to not have Palin on their show. She just doesn’t deserve that kind of exposure.

12 10 2008
Edie

Excuse the duplication if previously posted

12 10 2008
Sally

I have read several things about Senator Obama’s IQ too and what is even more interesting is that Palin’s has been estimated to be 110 and McCains around 130. The same report said Bush’s is only 98. I thought that sounded a little to me.

I have been reading Obama’s book, Dreams from My Father. He’s had an amazing life.

Obama/Biden 08

12 10 2008
Steak Leather

“Except here. I totally agree about journalism. I laugh every time I hear the Faux News
brand “We Report, You Decide”. Nobody but the neo-cons think what they do is reporting.”

“We Distort, We Decide” should be the Faux News mantra!

Steak Leather Palin

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Also

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

I know you guys have touched on this before but the DailyKos has a story worth reading today http://www.dailykos.com

Praise The Lord And Pass The Ammunition: Sarah Palin’s Extremist Ties

12 10 2008
scdem

Crust Scramble – SouthGA

I truly believe that this election spells the death knell of Palin and the GOP. Things have radically changed in this world.

I pray that you are correct. Also, I don’t mean to imply that everyone who belongs to the fundamental religious groups “buys” this stuff either. I live in a heavily fundie community in the south and I actually get the impression that more and more of what might be considered the religious right here is actually embarrassed by this election. Unfortunately, I doubt they are embarrassed enough to vote for a Democrat😉

This election has made strange bedfellows of religious fundamentalists and racist hatemongers – the truly religious folks in town seem to deeply resent being lumped into it. Frankly, if I were a Republican, I would be pissed that this election has been hijacked by Palin and her crazy followers!

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

I did enjoy this comment from a timesonline reader:

“As an evangelical Christian (not American) my cringing has turned to loathing, when I hear Sarah Palin speak. Her hunger for power is despicable. Martin Luther said “I would rather be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian” The Bible Belt has a lot to answer for….”

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

Crust Scramble – SouthGA

They don’t have to vote for Obama…I wouldn’t complain at all if they just stayed home on election day!!!

12 10 2008
scdem

Steak Leather

“We Distort, We Decide” should be the Faux News mantra!

That is the funniest thing I have heard this week! Would you mind if I make that my new tag line?

12 10 2008
Sally

I was able uncover every ones IQ except for Cheney. That somehow seems appropriate since he is the master of cover-up.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

As Churchill once said: The further backward you look, the further forward you’re likely to see. This is a MUST READ!

I’m not so sure. At the time this happened, Palin was gearing up a campaign against Wasilla Mayor Stein, that was comprised of the following basic elements:

— Eliminate the new Wasilla Police Department
— Do away with taxes, including the recent city sales tax
— John Stein’s wife is a Democrat
— John Stein’s wife has a different last name than Stein
— John Stein’s wife is a baby killer (pro-choice)
— John Stein might be Jewish

http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-seventy-sarahs.html

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

As Churchill once said: The further backward you look, the further forward you’re likely to see. This is a MUST READ!

I’m not so sure. At the time this happened, Palin was gearing up a campaign against Wasilla Mayor Stein, that was comprised of the following basic elements:

— Eliminate the new Wasilla Police Department
— Do away with taxes, including the recent city sales tax
— John Stein’s wife is a Democrat
— John Stein’s wife has a different last name than Stein
— John Stein’s wife is a baby killer (pro-choice)
— John Stein might be Jewish

(http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-seventy-sarahs.html)

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

“This election has made strange bedfellows of religious fundamentalists and racist hatemongers”

SCDem, I think in some cases they are one in the same, i.e., Sarah Palin

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

Tune in Thursday this might be fun

All is forgiven; McCain returning to Letterman

NEW YORK (AP) — David Letterman and Sen. John McCain will get a chance to make up.

The Republican presidential candidate is scheduled to appear on Letterman’s “Late Show” on Thursday.

It will be McCain’s 13th visit to the CBS program but his first since he angered Letterman by canceling last month.

Letterman was unhappy when McCain sat for an interview with Katie Couric instead of him on Sept. 24.

At the time he said he first felt like a “patriot” to let McCain off his commitment to deal with the economy but “now I’m feeling like an ugly date.”

A McCain spokeswoman said at the time that because of the economic crisis, the campaign “felt this wasn’t a night for comedy.”

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Palin believes her lies because she has to believe them. What does she have left if she has to face the truth? (The truth? You can’t handle the truth!) Nothing.

I do believe she’s stupid as well as ignorant but she possesses a kind of native cunning that is being exploited by the far right. I listened to part of the dust-up between Les Gara and Meg Stapleton, and what struck me is how strident, shrill, and desperate she sounds. Pitiful.

@Lady Rose, just tell them that looks fade, but sanity is somethirg to be treasured forever. And integrity. And intelligence. and intellectual curiosity. I don’t think she is pretty at all, and Tina Fey is twice the woman (and beautiful, too), but there’s no accounting for taste.

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

Tune in Thursday – this might be fun

“””All is forgiven; McCain returning to Letterman
NEW YORK (AP) — David Letterman and Sen. John McCain will get a chance to make up.

The Republican presidential candidate is scheduled to appear on Letterman’s “Late Show” on Thursday.

It will be McCain’s 13th visit to the CBS program but his first since he angered Letterman by canceling last month.

Letterman was unhappy when McCain sat for an interview with Katie Couric instead of him on Sept. 24.

At the time he said he first felt like a “patriot” to let McCain off his commitment to deal with the economy but “now I’m feeling like an ugly date.”

A McCain spokeswoman said at the time that because of the economic crisis, the campaign “felt this wasn’t a night for comedy.” “””

12 10 2008
wired hussein differently

A friend of mine observed recently that this is either the last presidential election of the 20th century or the first one of the 21st century. I think the proof of that pudding will be in the waning influence of the mainstream media. If Obama wins, and it is increasingly looking as though he will, this will have been a 21st century election.

I’m only a sample of one, but I don’t watch tv news, nor do I read a print newspaper anymore. I occasionally listen to NPR, but I mostly get my news and information from other, electronic resources. And I’m OLD (55).

I work with young people, and my three children are all young voters. They are following the campaigns in a variety of ways (2 from overseas, thankfully not from war zones), but they also have very 21st century ways of getting their information. Blogs, such as our very own Mudflats, with their comments and links to a variety of articles and videos, are the (early) 21st century equivalent of network television and newspapers. Heck (you betcha), even the archetypal last century new source, the NYT, has blogs! It wasn’t so long ago that NYT wasn’t even included in ProQuest, a periodical database, but now it’s right in there using these newfangled technologies. (Pardon me for veering off into library-land, there.)

So, as we can see right here on this blog, it doesn’t even much matter when or if Brian Williams reports about Housegate or John Lewis’ remarks linking McCain’s rhetoric to George Wallace. The stories are already out there. We know about them. And we see to it that our friends, relatives and co-workers hear about them. A huge number of young people get their ‘news’ from Jon Stewart! That’s a very strange idea for some of us, including Jon himself, but Edward R. Murrow and his journalism are gone. The days of us receiving wisdom from some great journalistic patriarch are GONE. And to that I say, buh bye! Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.

The democratizing effect of the internets (intertube-thingies) has created this great opportunity to let our voices be heard and to elect our first 21st century (Dubya doesn’t count) President.

But mind– we have to remain vigilant that the internet isn’t bought up and locked down. There are plenty of Rupert Murdoch/Dick Cheney types who intend to do just that. And, imho, one of the first things we will need to address with our new Congress and President (besides the economic clusterf&*%) is the repeal of the Patriot Act. Unless you think it’s cool that NSA human drones are jacking off to your private phone calls and such.

Sorry if this seems off-topic. Just my 2 cents. (You know, I really miss the cents sign. When I learned to type it was Shift 2 or someplace on the left hand, wasn’t it? Where the @ is now?)

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Many really conservative Christian groups do not support Palin–because they think women have no right to be leaders.

Gah.

12 10 2008
DarleenMB

just a small correction here. It is not “Stanford-Banai”

It is “Stanford BINET”

12 10 2008
Sandy in Wisconsin

Just wanted to say thanks for all the good information coming from this web site. It makes me feel better reading thoughts that I already have and question. At least I know I am not alone. I was wondering if anyone read the report on CNN’ s site about how Palin mixes church and state. A lot of state money has been used sending her and the “dude” to various church rallies etc. CNN quoted her as saying, “As I’m doing my job, let’s strike this deal. Your job is going be to be out there, reaching the people — (the) hurting people — throughout Alaska,” she told students graduating from the church’s Masters Commission program. “We can work together to make sure God’s will be done here.” I think she forgot you can not mix state and church!

There are reports the state of Alaska paid for the expense of these trips along with paying for per diems. CNN reported, Palin and her family billed the state $3,022 for the cost of attending Christian gatherings exclusively, including visits to the Assembly of God and to the congregation they attend in Juneau, according to expense reports reviewed by the AP.

Does she really think this is appropriate use of state money?
Sandy

12 10 2008
scdem

asianHusseingrrlMN

“And integrity”

If I could capture the difference between the Obama/Biden ticket and the McCain/Palin ticket in one word it would be “integrity”. It really is the definition of Obama and it is above all else the thing I think every one of us would agree makes Palin look small and pathetic.

12 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Has anyone else noticed the gallup poll steadily rising in McCain’s favor? It was 11 points, then 9 and today only 7 in favor of O’Biden. What’s that all about?…getting a little nervous.

Say it ain’t so and it’s just my imagination…this election can’t come fast enough!

12 10 2008
Polly Hussein

Mudflats is #3 on the Bloggers Choice Awards.

Go vote!!

http://bloggerschoiceawards.com/categories/19

12 10 2008
ds55

@ asianHusseingrrlMN (10:05:41) : //Many really conservative Christian groups do not support Palin–because they think women have no right to be leaders.//

I wondered why conservative women ever support Palin in the first place. Sarah speaks the words they want to hear, but Sarah doesn’t live the lifestyle they preach.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

Andrew Sullivan

12 Oct 2008 12:03 pm

“Truly Peculiar And Creepy”

“…Generally, the report makes it sound as though the Palins, especially Todd Palin, were just obsessed with Wooten, in a truly peculiar and creepy way.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/truly-peculiar.html

12 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

You know having become so much more politically aware this presidential election, I don’t think I can willingly step inside another church.

I said this to my husband yesterday and he just looked at me and nodded his understanding. This from a former Baptist minister.

He has told me for years he left the church because he saw much of this ultra conservative view point coming down the track. He chose to get out of the way.

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

@wired hussein differently

“And, imho, one of the first things we will need to address with our new Congress and President (besides the economic clusterf&*%) is the repeal of the Patriot Act. Unless you think it’s cool that NSA human drones are jacking off to your private phone calls and such.”

I’m in total agreement with you, wire hussein differently.

Our government needs to stop trying to scare the s**t out of us; people, who are not afraid of being called “soft on terrorism” need to step to the plate and demand that our civil liberties be restored, from the right to not having our phone calls listened in to, to the right to go through an airport without having to go through a virtual strip search or be felt up by………well, I wont’ say it just in case anyone of this board works for the TSA, one of the most disgraceful agencies ever foisted upon this country.

BTW, on the forum, there’s a report that the UK wants to listen in on every phone call and e-mail to and from the UK!

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,1817.0.html

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

I think traditional media isn’t as important, either, as we move forward. I do agree that if there were no Fox News or that ilk, it would be harder to spread the hate.

I can’t wait for Hillary Clinton to really sink her teeth into Palin. She is the one person uniquely qualified to call out the Republicans on their ridiculous stance that if you don’t like Palin, you’re anti-feminist.

As for IQ testing, it’s pretty flawed, IMHO. I will say, though, that 100 is average, and I would guess Palin is right around there with McCain being slightly higher, but not that high.

12 10 2008
JT

I have a question.

I wondered if I was the only one that thought it was a little bizarre for McCain to demand that Obama repudiate Republican Lewis’ condemnation of McCain’s campaign and the racist tone.

Lewis is a Republican, why is it Obama’s responsibility to repudiate Lewis’ remarks? Other notables have made public comments on the tone of McCain’s campaign.

Is it because Lewis is Black? Does that make Obama responsible for Lewis’ comments by virtue of his race.

I would understand if Lewis was active in Obama’s campaign, or a Democrat.

Like Rachel says….someone…talk me down on this!

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Dreams.. At this point, not voting is a vote for mcGrumpy.

This election means perhaps more to America this time than anytime in our modern times.

Convince everyone you know who says their vote doesn’t matter that they are wrong..

Vote, vote often and drive those who need help to vote.

12 10 2008
Diva "Slicer Mission" Palin

Sorry if I am repeating anything already said, no time to read all posts now, but she really threw Todd under the bus with her first few comments!

And if I were one of those journalists, I would report what my follow-up ????’s would have been, had I been allowed to ask them, be sure all knew why I would ask them, give what the possible conclusions could be that were NOT discussed at her demand, and that this issue was DEFINITELY NOT closed!

12 10 2008
Krystal

Okay, I have a question…I read an article today on McCain’s’ on the ground tactics in Virginia. They are telling their canvassing volunteers to compare him to osama bin laden (both have terrorist friends, blah, blah, blah), he won’t salute the flag and “we don’t even know where he was born.” So its all bs, but when has that ever stopped them before. I see trouble with this strategy but I want to see if you agree. If I am just vaguely following this stuff, don’t really care much, but someone tell me that the Presidential candidate is a terrorist, dontcha (wink, wink) think that they are going to look it up or more likely, have their kids look it up. I have goggled all these things and the top entries do a pretty good job of debunking these various strategies. So you read up and you have found, low and behold, that you have been basically lied to. How wil that go over with undecided voters? Mind you, some people will buy into the bs, but they have heard it before and are looking for it. They would have never voted for him in the first place. Only a purely political sense, I can understand the strategy: He is not one of us, he’s different, scary…but to quote Obama, “They are using a sledgehammer instead of a scalpel.” A more effective way to insight this fear would be to say he just makes me uncomfortable for some reason. He just hasn’t been around very long and he is very (gasp) liberal. I just, I don’t know. Instead, they are hitting people over the head with some really ludicrous things that defy reason and take 5 seconds to clear up. Its a google age after all, we google EVERYTHING! Just wondering your take on tactics like this….

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

Lock Pepper Palin (10:10:16) :
Has anyone else noticed the gallup poll steadily rising in McCain’s favor? It was 11 points, then 9 and today only 7 in favor of O’Biden. What’s that all about?…getting a little nervous.

Some of the negative ads maybe working a little but once we have the next debate, I bet Obama’s polls will go up even higher! check out the CO poll on this Blog: http://www.talkleft.com/

Amazing!!!

12 10 2008
snow leopard

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

Salon article on Palin and her pals in the Alaska Indpendence party….

12 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Lock Pepper Palin,

I do not pay attention to the polls. They really don’t reflect what is really happening. Limited Data polling is how I look at it and there are just to many variables. IMHO

12 10 2008
wired hussein differently

Susie!

Bi-coastal high 5!

We have been cowed into submission and stripped of our rights. I’m going to be on this with my 2 Senators and Representative as soon as the dust from this election settles. The anti-civil liberties legislation passed since 9/11 and the horrific treatment of suspected terrorists at Guantanamo and elsewhere are the shame of our generation.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

From Australia (lots of absentee voters in Oz).

Turmoil grips stumbling McCain campaign
Myriam Chaplain-Riou, Davenport, Iowa
October 13, 2008

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-election-2008/turmoil-grips-stumbling-mccain-campaign-20081012-4z44.html

12 10 2008
scdem

Proud Community OrganizerWA

“He has told me for years he left the church because he saw much of this ultra conservative view point coming down the track.”

Yours is truly a unique perspective and it makes me wonder. Why has organized religion taken such an active (perhaps obsessive) interest in politics over the last few elections? What is the real motive? What are they so afraid of? What do they really stand to gain that it is worth tearing the country apart, subjecting us to terrible leadership and shifting the focus away from governance issues? What is at the heart of this desperation?

12 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

JT,

Yes very bizarre but so is the whole McCain/Palin campaign. If we used that as a yard stick then Tucker Bounds should apologize to the Obama campaign everytime he opens his mouth!

12 10 2008
lonewolf a.k.a. Luger Otter Palin

Just out of curiosity, has anybody checked to see if she actually *recieved* a ‘degree’ in Journalism?? And any hint of her g.p.a.? Reading the transcript, it strikes me that she doesn’t even speak English .. altho’ I haven’t read anything she’s written.

She does write things, doesn’t she???

And for scdem’s (08:10:01) comment: Sarah Palin is *not* a Christian in the true sense of the word. She follows none of the principles of *true* Christianity and is, in fact, the exact opposite.

Her brand of ‘christianity’ is a ‘god’ that rules a cult. If you look at the definition of a cult, the evangelical group fits right in. Sarah, in her own mind (umm .. she has one, yes?) is not only doing *no* wrong, but is being totally guided by her ‘god.’ Well, I’m not sure that Rove isn’t first on the list, but for sure, he’s second. Does anybody not think that Rove is playing on the evangelical cultism to the fullest extent?

This brand of ‘christianity’ produces people who accept being manipulated and appear to have a much higher rate of being racist, bigoted, homophobic, extremist, and ‘holier than thou.’ And by the ‘rules of their faith,’ they have been charged with the job of taking over the rest of us and having us all conform to their rule.

I was on a website recently of an evangelical .. a chilling experience. He was saying how he had completed some ‘training’ on how to proselytize .. and that training included ‘fishing expeditions’ to test their skills. Yes, that’s what he called them .. ‘fishing expedtions.’ And he said these ventures were directed against the ‘lost.’

Hey, folks .. that’s *us!* The ‘lost.’

So Sarah will never see anything of what she’s doing .. her lack of honesty, ethics, morals .. you name it .. as wrong because she can’t. She’s always blindly ‘in the right.’ And now I’m wondering if that’s why she was picked since, given the mandate by her ‘god,’ she’d do as she was told/directed with an aura of absolute certainty. Rove is an evil man. You can guarantee McCain didn’t pick her.

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

Marty Hussein That One Voter – Get the HouseGater (10:19:13) :

Dreams.. At this point, not voting is a vote for mcGrumpy.

This election means perhaps more to America this time than anytime in our modern times.

I agree with you! That is why I have been working to register people to vote here in Texas. A lot have friends have asked me why in the world I would I even try in this “Red State”??? But I still have hope… hence the name: Dreams in TX!!!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

wired hussein differently (10:04:33) :
I’m with you on this.
JT (10:18:11) :
“Is it because Lewis is Black? Does that make Obama responsible for Lewis’ comments by virtue of his race.”

I think it’s the George Wallace comparison. That’s certainly a chapter in American history that none of us wants repeated, and bringing it to mind in this election does seen counterproductive, given Sarah Palin’s posturing.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

TO: Lock Pepper Palin,

Nothing to worry about. Here’s the poll of polls & I’ve beenwatching for weeks. Obama-Biden ticket has been going up steadily; now at +7.7%.

Most likely the gap will narrow as we approach elections. Most important thing though, is that polls don’t, people need to go out & vote. This is where we ALL need to help to ensure that every Obama-Biden supporter comes out & VOTES.

(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/)

12 10 2008
avahome

AKM…….I just found this comment while browsing in Newsweek reading Troopergate not over……. Does Todd rule over Sarah? I think this is a pertinent comment that Alaskans should answer.

Posted By: rharris513 @ 10/12/2008 1:54:30 PM

Comment: What I am MOST concerned about is Todd Palin’s illegal role within the office of the governer. Mrs. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who believes in the literal translation of the Bible. Genesis 3:16, “… Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” I think it fair to ask the governor if she is unable to abide by this Biblical decree and excuse herself from the ticket, lest the country be “ruled” by someone whom the unelected husband “rules” over.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

Expatriate votes

From Australia

Obama told victory may depend on expat votes
Tim Shipman, Washington
October 13, 2008
BARACK Obama has been warned he may have to wait until 10 days after the presidential election before finding out if he has won, if the contest is close.

A memo sent to the Democratic candidate advises his campaign team to have lawyers on hand to contest the results in key swing states, where expatriate Americans voting abroad could be the difference between victory and defeat.

More than 3 million Americans living in Britain and other countries could hold the keys to the White House, according to the document written by a British Democratic adviser.

But in seven states, including four swing states that are expected to decide the winner, the votes of hundreds of thousands of Americans abroad will not even be counted before November 14, long after the rest of the votes are cast on November 4.

Although Senator Obama has a comfortable lead over Republican John McCain, there are more than a dozen swing states where a shift of just a few percentage points could put Senator McCain in the White House.

Steve Morgan, a strategist who advised former presidential candidates Al Gore and John Kerry on winning votes from Americans abroad, told The Sunday Telegraph: “Americans abroad are registering to vote in record numbers this year.

“There will be 200,000 to 300,000 voting in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan. In all those states, their votes won’t even be counted until November 14.”

Mr Morgan — who announced to the world’s press Mr Gore’s decision to concede the 2000 election, only to reverse the announcement 10 minutes later when it became clear that the result was too close to call — said his most important advice for the Obama camp in the event of a cliffhanger election was not to concede any state until all the votes had been counted.

TELEGRAPH

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-election-2008/obama-told-victory-may-depend-on-expat-votes-20081012-4z48.html

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

wired hussein differently, I’ve written my 2 Senators, Lautenberg and Menendez, many times on these issues and neither had the decency to even acknowledge my concerns – and they are both Democrats.

My out-going representative, whose name I can’t remember, would respond, but toed the party (R) line all the way, “there’s a terrorist on every corner.”

BTW, having been more sick than well for the last two weeks, I lay in bed most of yesterday (when I wasn’t on Mudflats) and watched a Law and Order marathon last night – the writers lit into the Patriot Act, Homeland “Security”, the FBI, counterintelligence at every opportunity!

Have you also noticed how popular fiction writers, since about 2002, have mocked the TSA and DHS? I love it!

12 10 2008
Halcrow

From Australia (can’t post link)

Obama told victory may depend on expat votes
Tim Shipman, Washington
October 13, 2008
BARACK Obama has been warned he may have to wait until 10 days after the presidential election before finding out if he has won, if the contest is close.

A memo sent to the Democratic candidate advises his campaign team to have lawyers on hand to contest the results in key swing states, where expatriate Americans voting abroad could be the difference between victory and defeat.

More than 3 million Americans living in Britain and other countries could hold the keys to the White House, according to the document written by a British Democratic adviser.

But in seven states, including four swing states that are expected to decide the winner, the votes of hundreds of thousands of Americans abroad will not even be counted before November 14, long after the rest of the votes are cast on November 4.

Although Senator Obama has a comfortable lead over Republican John McCain, there are more than a dozen swing states where a shift of just a few percentage points could put Senator McCain in the White House.

Steve Morgan, a strategist who advised former presidential candidates Al Gore and John Kerry on winning votes from Americans abroad, told The Sunday Telegraph: “Americans abroad are registering to vote in record numbers this year.

“There will be 200,000 to 300,000 voting in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan. In all those states, their votes won’t even be counted until November 14.”

Mr Morgan — who announced to the world’s press Mr Gore’s decision to concede the 2000 election, only to reverse the announcement 10 minutes later when it became clear that the result was too close to call — said his most important advice for the Obama camp in the event of a cliffhanger election was not to concede any state until all the votes had been counted.

TELEGRAPH

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

TO: Lock Pepper Palin,

Nothing to worry about. Here’s the poll of polls & I’ve beenwatching for weeks. Obama-Biden ticket has been going up steadily; now at +7.7%.

Most likely the gap will narrow as we approach elections. Most important thing though, is that polls don’t, people need to go out & vote. This is where we ALL need to help to ensure that every Obama-Biden supporter comes out & VOTES.
(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/)

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

@JT, John Lewis is a Democrat. Even so, it’s hardly Obama’s job to rebuke him.
If it is, then McCain needs to rebuke Governor Keating for calling Obama a guy from the streets, etc. Hell, McCain would have to rebuke himself for all the character smearing he’s doing.

@Krystal, I am with you. I don’t think the true undecideds will be swayed by such empty rhetoric any more than they will be swayed by the slaverin’ of tche Republican pitbull (with lipstick).

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

TO: Lock Pepper Palin,

Nothing to worry about. Here’s the poll of polls & I’ve beenwatching for weeks. Obama-Biden ticket has been going up steadily; now at +7.7%.

Most likely the gap will narrow as we approach elections. Most important thing is though, polls don’t, people need to go out & vote. This is where we ALL need to help to ensure that every Obama-Biden supporter must come out & VOTE. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls)

12 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

scdem,

When I asked him years ago about that very issue his response was and still for the most part is, Churches anymore are no different than big corporations. For the ones at the top it is not about their belief in God it is the power, wealth and prestiege.

They keep the ground soldiers stirred up with rhetoric and in doing so have control and keep the coffers full.

I have to say I think his analysis is spot on as I watch the mega churches grow by the numbers.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

TO: Lock Pepper Palin,

Nothing to worry about. Here’s the poll of polls & I’ve beenwatching for weeks. Obama-Biden ticket has been going up steadily; now at +7.7%.

Most likely the gap will narrow as we approach elections. Most important thing is though, polls don’t, people need to go out & vote. This is where we ALL need to help to ensure that every Obama-Biden supporter must come out & VOTE.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls

12 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

Just catching up on my mud-reading. In the phone interview, Palin actually demonstrates the ability to tell us black is black AND white in the same soundbite. She tells us that the Branchflower report completely clears her of any legal (true) or ethical (false) wrongdoing, but then goes on to say it was the result of a political circus and hence, presumably, invalid at its core.

Thus she was “cleared” by a report she considers politicized and invalid.

Oh, and give Palin’s spin on the campaign’s use of the term “rogue” to characterize Walt M, it sounds like the word they were actually looking for was “maverick”.

12 10 2008
chris

DELUSION

de·lu·sion
Pronunciation:
\di-ˈlü-zhən, dē-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Late Latin delusion-, delusio, from deludere
Date:
15th century

1: the act of deluding : the state of being deluded 2a: something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated b: a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary ; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

TO: Lock Pepper Palin,

Nothing to worry about. Here’s the poll of polls & I’ve beenwatching for weeks. Obama-Biden ticket has been going up steadily; now at +7.7%.

Most likely the gap will narrow as we approach elections. Most important thing is though, polls don’t, people need to go out & vote. This is where we ALL need to help to ensure that every Obama-Biden supporter must come out & VOTE. (www.realclearpolitics.com/polls)

12 10 2008
pamela

Just took a quick scroll through the comments after reading AKM’s great post and listening to the article so apologies if I’m repeating anything that’s been said, but…

Thanks, drchill for putting this craziness in perspective: “hope in audacity.”
Problem is, that seems to be the republican motto – hope in audacity – say something often enough and even if untrue, it will stick. And it works, regardless of how crazy the claim is. The same people who believe that Obama “pals around w/ terrorists” will no doubt believe, along w/ Sarah, that she’s been cleared. For eight years, this has worked – the republicans convince 51% that black is white and vice versa, and that’s enough. The recent polls seem to indicate it won’t work this year – fingers crossed!

But for you Alaskans who have to face the day the Sarah returns as your full-time gov, there was a Florida politician on Face the Nation this morning who said his state basically couldn’t get enough of SP. Her crowds were huge and enthusiastic, and he wanted her to campaign there more. Heck, maybe Alaska can export her to Florida after Nov. 4🙂 (Sorry Floridian mudpuppies, but Alaska has suffered enough, don’t you think?)

12 10 2008
vega

Palin is NUTS!

12 10 2008
Halcrow

From Australia

More than 3 million Americans living in Britain and other countries could hold the keys to the White House, according to the document written by a British Democratic adviser.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-election-2008/obama-told-victory-may-depend-on-expat-votes-20081012-4z48.html

12 10 2008
JT

asianHusseingrrlMN

AHHHH!!!

For some reason I thought Lewis was a Republican. I swear I heard them say that on the news.

Ok….makes a little more sense now.

Thanks!

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

JT, Lewis is a dem out of GA.. I agree though, it’s not obamas job to comment on what others say, besides, look at the crap McDrones spew?

.. and i agreed with what he said.

12 10 2008
Mikelaw

As an attorney, I beleive that the finding in the report that no laws were violated in the discharge probably has to do with shielding the state from any wrongful termination suits. This just means that he wasn’t fired for a prohibited reason such as race, sex, religion, national origin, disaiblity etc. Firing an at will employee is not illegal unless it is for a prohibited reason. Breaking the state ethics statute is a separate matter but does not make the firing illegal. There is some possibility that a suit could be pursued if the firing was in retaliation for the employee having refused to perform an illegal act, such as trying to discharge someone in violation of the union rules. However, the ethics violation still stands and I don’t know what can be done about that other than an impeachment proceeding or some type of censure.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

And New Zealand

Palin puts McCain on a rollercoaster
4:00AM Monday Oct 13, 2008

…”There seems little doubt that Palin is still the darling of a huge section of red state America. But what works for the Republican base no longer works for the country as a whole.

Attack dogs do not win the middle ground, especially ones beset by scandal and smarting from the damning judgment of Alaska state investigator Steve Branchflower, who discovered that Todd, Palin’s husband, enjoyed extraordinary access to his wife’s closest advisers, despite being unelected and having no salaried state post. He then used that access to try to get Wooten fired, the report found. Palin was criticised for taking no action to rein in her husband and Branchflower concluded there was evidence that she participated in a campaign against Wooten.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10537096

12 10 2008
chris

Delusion

A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).

I think we’ve found out the facts regarding Palin.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

High Ranking Republicans Starting To Distance Themselves From McCain

Then there is Republican Rep. Mark Souder of Indiana, who says he isn’t even sure “McCain can carry seven states.”

“I’m not sure right now that McCain can carry seven states,” added Souder, whose home state has not picked a Democrat for president since 1964. “In the end I think McCain will carry Indiana. But if you are fighting for Indiana, you are in trouble.” (www.411mania.com/politics

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

@Crust Scramble, I respectfully disagree. I think John Lewis said what had to be said. As a POC, I am very aware of what the stirrings on the right can accomplish, and it is very clear to me that Palin, at least, is akin to George Wallace.

It’s interesting because many (white) people have written about the heinous tactics, comparing them to the Third Reich, Rabin’s assassination, and Kennedy’s assassination (re: the scathing rhetoric that led up to each of the latter two), and I have heard no complaints about those comments by McCain. The minute a black man says something, then there is a problem.

It’s like the white commentaries scolding people of color for saying what Palin is doing is racist because they don’t deem it so. I’ve had people tell me something isn’t racist, and it’s usually a white male. I have had the same thoughts as John Lewis, and I can guarantee many other people of color have as well.

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Lewis may be a democrat, but he was one of the three people McCain named as taking advice from in the interview with the religious bloke, can’t remember his name. How does he explain that?.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

asianHusseingrrlMN, I agree with 100% on the Lewis issue. Mr. Lewis is a well respected civil right leader & when he talks both sides listen. He was right to bring the McHaters’ hate-mongering to the attention of the Nation!

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Holy Crap Muddies..

I found this quote about McCain during a campaign stop, in 1992.. From Cliff Schechters book, The Real New McCain..

Enjoy:

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

12 10 2008
pamela

Crust Scramble,

I agree that the Wallace era is one we don’t want to repeat, but I saw Lindsey Graham feigning outrage on one of the Sunday shoes this morning, complaining how bringing Wallace into the equation was beyond the pale. I’m a northerner, so I admit I can’t fully appreciate what it was like in the south back then, but when I read reports of McCain rallies where people yell “terrorist” or “treason” or “kill him” it sends chills down my spine. If those comments go unchallenged, I’m afraid that a significant portion of this country will actually believe it – maybe not enough to elect McCain, but enough to keep up this red/blue divide after the election.

And in the category of hard to believe, but apparently true, absentee ballots in Troy, NY were sent out with the name “Barack Osama” listed as the presidential candidate. They’ve been recalled and destroyed, and I guess in this case if any get through, a vote for Osama will go to Obama. I think this was just human error…

12 10 2008
protus

Basically shes an air head with a knack for telling lies.

Glad to see the people of America see through the BullShit.

12 10 2008
karen marie

this is the email that i sent to dave letterman just now:

dear david letterman:

i read today that john mccain is scheduled to appear on your show thursday, october 16. i further read that the mccain campaign is now claiming that the original cancellation occurred because john mccain “felt this wasn’t a night for comedy.”

don’t let him get away with revising history in this regard.

it is outrageous that he would call you up and tell you that he had to cancel because the economy is “cratering” and he had to “rush back to washington,” and then be allowed to rearrange the facts on a later date.

don’t do it, dave!

thanks.

here’s dave letterman’s email address: cbsmailbag@aol.com

12 10 2008
drchill

Sorry, but I think all this arm chair Diagnosing of her and ‘she’s crazy – talk’ is time wasted.

The disconnect between evidence as we see it and their message as they wish to promote it, is pretty normal for American politics.

I suggest trying to spend the next 3 weeks on something practical.

Focus on converting votes of those who may be persuaded.
Saying “She’s crazy” – is unlikely to convince anyone to change their vote.

Write your local newspaper and set them straight when they get it wrong, or is they overlook something- like Anti-Palin rallies, or VanFlein’s very bad ‘legal’ analysis of the trooper gate report.

Send a donation to Obama 08

Send a link to this and other posts to anyone in your address book…

Send a donation to Mudflats… : )

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Protus… this is an alaska blog site.. its Mooseshit please..!

12 10 2008
Regi

Scramble – SouthGA (10:27:58) :

wired hussein differently (10:04:33) :
I’m with you on this.
JT (10:18:11) :
“Is it because Lewis is Black? Does that make Obama responsible for Lewis’ comments by virtue of his race.”

I think it’s the George Wallace comparison. That’s certainly a chapter in American history that none of us wants repeated, and bringing it to mind in this election does seen counterproductive, given Sarah Palin’s

Nonsense, this is bigger than just Obama. Obama may well ride into the sunset after election day, healthy, priviliged and protected. But what about the minorities the McCain/Palin scum go after in their frustrations? Who’s giving them a voice? NO ONE,they’re the ones that have to face these KKK losers every day and hope no one comes for them. McCain needs to hear exactly what he’s feeding so he’s frozen with fear to meet his maker if he doenst’ cut the crap out. Palin is stupid and hopeless, and God does take care of fools for some damn reason.

First they came for the Communists,
– but I was not a communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists,
– but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews,
– but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.

12 10 2008
JT

I am listening to them talk about an Obama landslide. I sorta hate talk like that. Makes me concerned that the newly registered Obama supporters will use it as an exuse to not vote.

12 10 2008
Laurie

My dear mudpuppies. I had to take a valium today for the first time in months. How sad is that? I am beyond frustrated and angry with that Palin witch that impersonates a woman.

How she could think, let alone tell the world she has not done anything wrong is way beyond me. Does she believe it…or is someone telling her what to say.

I want to know who sarah palin is. Why does she pal around with domestic terrorists? Why does she knowingly incite violence at her rallies.

Why is the media going on and on about ayers…but Palin and McCain get a pass on aip…gordon liddy…and god knows who else. How can we use our anger to get this out there.

Why does she get to go on snl…but she wont sit on meet the press? What the hell is happening in america/

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

(www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/722731.html)

12 10 2008
scdem

asianHusseingrrlMN

“The minute a black man says something, then there is a problem”

I am not a person of color but I had similar thoughts when hearing much of the rhetoric and I am sure I am not alone. I live in the south and I know racism well. I know the “language” of racism and it isn’t always as overt as many people would like to believe. I hear it every day and I hear it from people who think it is fine to share it with me because I’m not black. Regardless of my race I find it deeply offensive and when I tell people that, they usually reply: Why do you care, you aren’t black? They then usually go on to point out that they have black friends so they aren’t really racist. Drives me batsh** crazy!

12 10 2008
wired hussein differently

Susie– I think the time has come for the Democrats in the Senate (including my own Patty Murray and Maria (I’m actually a Republican) Cantwell) to scoot out from underneath the bed, brush the dust bunnies off, and find the guts to restore our rights. We need to renew our efforts to hold them accountable.

Love it that prominent Republicans are backing off McCain– don’t want to get splattered when he explodes.

I’m pretty confident at this point, barring some awful October surprise, that it’s going to be a blowout in favor of Obama. But as I’ve said in an earlier thread, that’s only the beginning. As far as I’m concerned, Obama has not demonstrated much in the way of true liberalism. The ‘left’ has gone so far right they make Nixon look like a liberal. So, we’ve got a lot of work ahead of us.

Hope you’re feeling better. And now I am going to tear my stiff, cold fingers off the keyboard and go outside.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/722731.html

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

{http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/722731.html]

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/722731.html%5D

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

I feel really sorry for the children. I still can’t believe all the late night videos we see of her with that newborn baby being passed around. Poor little guy is starting out with a very tough life and I can’t see how that can be considered “Good Family Values”.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

ttp://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/722731.html]

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

For the first time in more than a decade, Florida Republicans are considering the almost unthinkable: Their presidential nominee could lose the state.

From Miami Herald

12 10 2008
Laurie

@regi…I didnt think there was anything wrong with Lewis’ remarks. He didnt liken Mccain to the other guy…cant remember his name…he likened his behavior to him. And he was right.

McCain has made a couple of feeble attempts to stop his supporters from saying things but lets face it…he was standing right in front of the old hag who said obama was an arab. He had no choice. Bet he didnt want to either. He also then added that obama was a good family man. As compared to arab men…who are not?

Nothing can redeem mccain in my eyes. I am also sick of the pundits saying both sides are doing the slamming . I sure dont see it. I have not seen obama talk about aip…or gordon liddy. Did I miss something.

Something bad is going to happen. I know some of you dont want me to say that here….but I cant help it.

12 10 2008
megacephalus

With (minor) apologies, this in full from the current KOS:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/12/13228/301/977/627523
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Praise The Lord And Pass The Ammunition: Sarah Palin’s Extremist Ties
by Plutonium Page

Sun Oct 12, 2008 at 10:02:28 AM PDT

It was only slightly over a month ago that America was swept up in the carefully orchestrated GOP storm known as Sarah Palin. On August 29, 2008, John McCain told Americans that Palin is tenacious, tough, and could handle the job of Vice President just fine. He praised her “grit”, “integrity”, and “good sense”. He said that:

“She is exactly who this country needs to help us fight the same old Washington politics of me first and country second,”

Indeed, “Country First” has become the official McCain campaign slogan. “USA! USA! USA!” is shouted by the frenzied, hate-filled, nationalistic crowds that gather to hear McCain and Palin speak.

What they don’t know about Palin is that her political career in Alaska was shaped by the ideology and support of fringe, anti-government, militia-organizing secessionists.

Here at dailyKos, we have but scratched the surface of Palin’s connection to the Alaska Independence Party (AIP). The big story that we suspected was there has finally been uncovered by Dave Neiwert and Max Blumenthal, who recently traveled to Wasilla, Alaska.

Neiwert laid the background for their AIP story in a September 22, 2008 article. Of note:

This morning I interviewed John Stein, the former Wasilla mayor who was defeated by Palin in 1996 by using “a quiet campaign by some Palin supporters raising emotional issues like abortion and gun control, which had no apparent tie to municipal politics” — and as Phil Munger notes, a whisper campaign that Stein was secretly Jewish (Stein is a Lutheran).

The connection revolves mostly around three men known to have far-right leanings in the community: a builder named Steven Stoll, a computer repairman named Mark Chryson, and a third man named Mike Christ. All three subscribed to a bellicose, “Patriot” movement brand of politics — far-right libertarianism with a John Birch streak.

According to Stein, Steven Stoll — whose local nickname, according to Phil Munger, is “Black Helicopter Steve” — was involved in militia organizing in Wasilla the 1990s, and subscribed to most of the movement’s paranoid conspiracy theories: “The rumor was that he had wrapped his guns in plastic and buried them in his yard so he could get them after the New World Order took over.”

The “black helicopter” concept “became popular in the United States militia movement, and in associated political circles, in the 1990s as an alleged symbol and warning sign of a conspiratorial totalitarian military takeover of part or all of the United States”. Timothy McVeigh, among others, was a firm believer.

Neiwert and Blumenthal followed up with a fantastic article published yesterday in Salon. If you weren’t already convinced that John McCain’s team had no idea what they were doing when they chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, you will be after reading this story.

Meet Sarah Palin’s best Alaska pals:

Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin. An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory.

Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution’s language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as “Black Helicopter Steve,” to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. “Every time I showed up her door was open,” said Chryson. “And that policy continued when she became governor.”

So let’s get this straight. John McCain’s team chose someone whose political career was tightly interwoven with – and supported by – extremists. Not just average wingnuts. Extremists. Radicals. A secessionist and a paranoid militia organizer.

There is much, much more in the article, including a brief history of the AIP:

“The Alaskan Independence Party has got links to almost every independence-minded movement in the world,” Chryson exclaimed. “And Alaska is not the only place that’s about separation. There’s at least 30 different states that are talking about some type of separation from the United States.”

This has meant rubbing shoulders and forging alliances with outright white supremacists and far-right theocrats, particularly those who dominate the proceedings at such gatherings as the North American Secessionist conventions, which AIP delegates have attended in recent years.

The AIP has also had a long association with the Constitution Party, which has had a prominent role in a number of racist “patriot” (i.e. militia) movements.

Neiwert summarizes the article at his blog:

Essentially here’s what we found:

That Gov. Palin, when a Wasilla city council member, formed an alliance with some of the more radical far-right citizens in Wasilla and vicinity, particularly members of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party who were allied with local John Birch Society activists. These activists played an important role in her election as Wasilla mayor in 1996.
Once mayor, one of Mrs. Palin’s first acts was to attempt to appoint one of these extremists (a man named Steve Stoll) to her own seat on the city council. This was a man with a history of disrupting city council meetings with intimidating behavior. She was blocked by a single city council member.
Afterward, Mrs. Palin fired the city’s museum director at the behest of this faction.
She fomented an ultimately successful effort to derail a piece of local gun-control legislation which would simply have prohibited the open carry of firearms into schools, liquor stores, libraries, courthouses and the like. The people recruited to shout this ordinance down included these same figures, notably the local AIP representative (who became the AIP’s chairman that same year).
She remained associated politically with the local AIP/Birch faction throughout her tenure as mayor on other issues, particularly a successful effort to amend the Alaska Constitution to prohibit local governments from issuing any local gun-control ordinances.
In general, we found that not only did Mrs. Palin have numerous associations with these extremists, she actively sought to empower them locally and to enact their agendas both locally and on a state level.

We sent an e-mail to the McCain/Palin campaign asking for their reaction to these findings, and have so far received no response. If and when we do, we’ll update.

So, McCain’s cute lil’ sidekick, that all-American hockey mom, the “pitbull with lipstick” that the cable news networks just couldn’t get enough of for weeks, is actually so far removed from mainstream American politics and ideals that it’s impossible to imagine her ever handling the job for which she has been recruited.

She may inspire the fringe, and may be able to tell voters the best way to store their gold and guns when the black helicopters come, but she’s clearly the worst possible choice McCain could have made for his potential successor.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

BY MARY ELLEN KLAS AND MARC CAPUTO
meklas@MiamiHerald.com

For the first time in more than a decade, Florida Republicans are considering the almost unthinkable: Their presidential nominee could lose the state.

12 10 2008
Krystal

JT,

I thought that too at first, but I think we have been trained to think like that because of surprise evictions on American Idol. I would hope though this is more important than American Idol and people will show up. I think a lot of people understand also that the more votes, the more power he will have. Besides, either which way, their is a historic nature to this vote and most people won’t want to tell their very poor and Chinese enslaved grandchildren that they sat it out. That last part was a joke by the way. I think no matter who wins, humor is going to be the only thing that gets us through the next year or two.

12 10 2008
megacephalus

from the current KOS:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/12/13228/301/977/627523
—-
Praise The Lord And Pass The Ammunition: Sarah Palin’s Extremist Ties
by Plutonium Page

Sun Oct 12, 2008 at 10:02:28 AM PDT

12 10 2008
AKaurora

We may ID the perp through the one-way glass, but Sarah sees only the mirror wherein to admire herself. She is boxed in with only her reflections of the truth.

12 10 2008
JT

Actually, when you think about it, sometimes it is a compliment to be called a racist.

Some of the anti-Obama people say the most outrageous and fear mongering claims against Obama, that you have to assume that they have an extremely low IQ, or are a racist.

By calling them a racist, we are being gracious, and giving them the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t seriously mentally impaired.

12 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

Florida Republicans cast blame as McCain trails in polls

John McCain’s plunging poll numbers in Florida have top Republicans second-guessing and starting to distance themselves from the campaign.

For the first time in more than a decade, Florida Republicans are considering the almost unthinkable: Their presidential nominee could lose the state.

12 10 2008
GrammaConcept

Ladies and Gentlemen, observe……

Professional Sociopath

in native habitat

(which happens to be wherever)

Strive On,
Please.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

Save us, Lord, from a Palin White House

HARRY BRUCE
Sun. Oct 12 –

…”This nation has suffered through eight years of an ill-prepared and unblinkingly obstinate president. One who didn’t pause to think before he started a disastrous war of choice in Iraq. One who blithely looked the other way as Taliban and al-Qaida regrouped in Afghanistan. One who obstinately cut taxes and undercut all efforts at regulation, unleashing today’s profound economic crisis.”

And now, McCain has selected as a president-in waiting this hockey mom and female Joe Sixpack who appears to be an impossibility: a version of George W. Bush, who is even stupider than the real thing. “Not since Gaius Caesar Caligula appointed his horse to the Roman Senate has there been such a bonehead choice,” says blogger John de Groot.

If McCain wins, and his illness drives him from office, the horse will be not just a senator but the Empress of America, with supreme power to wreck the entire world.

Let us pray.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotian/1084209.html

12 10 2008
katiebegood

lookingglass (06:03:21) :

Can anyone here comment on Timothy Petumenos being hired and the independent counsel for the Personnel board investigation?

I think that is hysterical. He is a Democrat who donated money to her opponent in the last race. I think this is a really big FU from the Personnel board to Palin. I say good on them.

I don’t know how the Republicans are going to be able to spin this one. The Personnel Board was their pick.

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

Post ‘troopergate,’ Palin still popular in Alaska, just not as much

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/12/post-troopergate-palin-still-popular-in-alaska-just-not-as-much/

Many Alaska officials have come to the defense of Monegan, who grew up in a Native village near the Yupik Eskimo community of Bethel before launching a law-enforcement career in Anchorage, where he eventually served as police chief.

“I don’t want to get into a big political fight … but I cannot allow a fellow Alaska Native to have his reputation tarnished and used as a political football,” said Julie Kitka, president of the Alaska Federation of Natives, in a Sept. 27 opinion column in The Anchorage Daily News. “No one has done more to address the law enforcement needs of rural Alaska than Walt Monegan.”

Great Article!

12 10 2008
scdem

drchill

“Send a donation to Obama 08”

I second that. The day after the VP debate I donated $500 in honor of SP. The day after the horrific “he’s a terrorist” and “kill him” comments were shouted at the McCain and Palin rallies, I sent in another $500 to help combat hate. Over the next month, I will donate the remainder of my maximum individual donation amount in support of hope. I encourage everyone here to donate if at all possible – even $10 or $20 can help, especially with the work that needs to be done to get out the vote in the swing states.

12 10 2008
NMJ

kimbers Chop Meth Palin (06:01:13) : Oh brother, that’s just so pathetically delusional, it almost (just almost) makes me feel sorry for her.

Kimbers, don’t feel sorry for her. She’s delusional in her religion, but she’s not politically delusional. She’s not intelligent, but she’s a smart politician. She knows full well that the report found her in violation of ethics laws.

She uses a tactic that works in brainwashing and in religion: Say what you want people to believe often enough, and they will believe it. It’s often, but not always, true in politics. Who was it that said, “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.” Was that Winston Churchill?

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

asianHusseingrrlMN (10:40:08) :

pamela (10:47:39) :
—————–
Sorry, Ladies – I really did not make myself clear.

I totally agree with what Congressman Lewis (D-Ga) said and I told him so.

I was answering why I thought Obama was distancing himself from the Congressman’s statements. It’s certainly not because Congressman Lewis is black.

Obama’s response:
“Sen. Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies,” said the campaign statement. But wait! There’s more:

“John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night.”

But…….. bringing up the specter of George Wallace in the South (and I totally understand Congressman Lewis’ reasoning for doing so) is not a bandwagon, as
regards McCain/Palin, that most Democratic politicians would want to be associated with. And I do agree with you, asianHusseingrrlMN, “Palin, at least, is akin to George Wallace”, I just think it would really bite Obama if he agreed with that assessment.

12 10 2008
Meat Notgay Hussein

drchill

“Send a donation to Obama 08″

And if you can, volunteer at your local Obama office. It’s a lot of fun and you get to work with very nice people.

12 10 2008
Regi

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/12/mccain.lewis/?iref=mpstoryview

McCain has written about Lewis in the past, praising his actions in Selma, Alabama, during the civil rights movement. The Republican nominee even said during a summer faith forum that Lewis was one of three men he would turn to for counsel as president.

I never knew this about McCain. You know it’s funny, I never really researched him before since I knew I wasn’t going to vote for him. My husband would say he didn’t like him but never really elaborated. He is a vile man, disturbed man. McCain, not my spouse. And I won’t even C&P that awful name he called his own wife.

12 10 2008
Xenon

I do not trust generally politicians who wink, say “cool,” and punctuate sentences with adolescent Britney Spears-esque filler statements such as “like.” The woman is an illiterate…except when it comes to reading Republican talking points off of cue cards. She is completely devoid of substance and awareness: the worst of all possible combinations when it comes to governance…then again, look who is running the country nowadays.

I say this: if the paranoid and xenophobic masses that keep showing up to McCain’s rallies are looking for a malleable and ignorant saviour, they have found it in Palin.

12 10 2008
epic

Saw a picture gag somewhere of McCain and G Gordon Liddy (don’t have the link, sorry) with the caption: ‘Because Batshit Crazy never goes out of style!’

Made me chuckle for hours.

12 10 2008
Maddie

Laurie (10:57:52) :

Something bad is going to happen. I know some of you dont want me to say that here….but I cant help it.
——————————-
Laurie,
the American public has been kicked in the teeth (metaphorically) for 8 or so years and regarded with such utter contempt, who wouldn’t feel that way?

I can’t help but feel the other shoe is going to drop, as well.
Gee. it’s sort of like being in a dysfunctional family with a batterer.

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

Hear the cards falling?

Republican leaders said Saturday that they were worried Mr. McCain was heading for defeat

“I think you’re seeing a turning point,” said Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan.

Tommy Thompson former Governor of Wisconsin was asked if he was happy with Mr. McCain’s campaign, Mr. Thompson replied, “No,” and he added, “I don’t know who is.”

Pennsylvania, Robert A. Gleason Jr., the state Republican chairman “I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads.”

Republican congressman from Minnesota, is melting down because of the McCain campaign has no direction.

Mr. Danforth a retired Republican senator from Missouri said. “This is a year where everything that could go in Obama’s favor is going in Obama’s favor,” he said. “Everything that could go against McCain is against him.

McCain said yesterday “I’d like to remind you that the political pundits have been wrong several times,” Mr. McCain said, “and they’re wrong because we will win the state of Iowa in November.”

Iowa poll: Obama 54, McKillhim 41

No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

Peace

ps. Remember tomorrow is Indigenous Peoples Day, the new holiday replacing Columbus Day. A day for us to reflect on our Native American brothers and sisters who gave and continue to give so willingly, who’s food and grain sustained us, who’s Code Talkers brought decisive victory in WW2, and a people who sacrificed so much of their world for our’s. Far more than the raping thief Columbus.

12 10 2008
Drink H. H. Pal

DF: I’m a little confused as to why McCain/Palin continues to be favored by Alaskans. As a previous Alaskan, I thought Alaska was full of intelligent people who recognize a delusional rogue when they see one. By the way, I submitted a note to Saturday Night Live and asked them to not have Palin on their show. She just doesn’t deserve that kind of exposure.

=====
if we look at the palin rallies here, they have been 1/3 and 1/4 the numbers of any rally for Obama, for Truth, or anti-Palin. A few days ago I heard we were a ‘pale blue’…..it wouldn’t surprise me to find that to be true.

My question: did anyone look at the page http://deigratia.wordpress.com/ ??? I read a bit, and looked at the video. Not sure if it is from a troll or if it
is for real. Please advise.

12 10 2008
NMJ

Here’s a little wishful spoof we can all enjoy during the Palin travesty:

Palin Withdraws from Presidential Race: Cites Her Own Ties to Terrorists
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-106226

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Now for some cheery news. A link praising our new it girl, Rachel Maddow:

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=channel_changer_08

@Laurie, I am right there with you. I think those thoughts every day, too. Just wanted to let you know that I didn’t see anything wrong with you sharing your fears.

@Dr. Chill, again, I respectfully disagree. I do think it’s important to do proactive things such as canvassing, donating money and time, but it’s also imporant to let go of the shit sometime. On a practical level, does it help to dissect Palin’s personality? Maybe not. However, it does help to better understand her in order to defeat her–and, frankly, just to let off some steam. We can do both.

12 10 2008
megacephalus

Palin’s connection to the Alaska Independence Party (AIP). The big story that we suspected was there has finally been uncovered by Dave Neiwert and Max Blumenthal, who recently traveled to Wasilla, Alaska.

Neiwert laid the background for their AIP story in a September 22, 2008 article. Of note:

This morning I interviewed John Stein, the former Wasilla mayor who was defeated by Palin in 1996 by using “a quiet campaign by some Palin supporters raising emotional issues like abortion and gun control, which had no apparent tie to municipal politics” — and as Phil Munger notes, a whisper campaign that Stein was secretly Jewish (Stein is a Lutheran).

The connection revolves mostly around three men known to have far-right leanings in the community: a builder named Steven Stoll, a computer repairman named Mark Chryson, and a third man named Mike Christ. All three subscribed to a bellicose, “Patriot” movement brand of politics — far-right libertarianism with a John Birch streak.

According to Stein, Steven Stoll — whose local nickname, according to Phil Munger, is “Black Helicopter Steve” — was involved in militia organizing in Wasilla the 1990s, and subscribed to most of the movement’s paranoid conspiracy theories: “The rumor was that he had wrapped his guns in plastic and buried them in his yard so he could get them after the New World Order took over.”

The “black helicopter” concept “became popular in the United States militia movement, and in associated political circles, in the 1990s as an alleged symbol and warning sign of a conspiratorial totalitarian military takeover of part or all of the United States”. Timothy McVeigh, among others, was a firm believer.

Neiwert and Blumenthal followed up with a fantastic article published yesterday in Salon. If you weren’t already convinced that John McCain’s team had no idea what they were doing when they chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, you will be after reading this story.

Meet Sarah Palin’s best Alaska pals:

Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin. An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory.

Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution’s language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as “Black Helicopter Steve,” to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. “Every time I showed up her door was open,” said Chryson. “And that policy continued when she became governor.”

So let’s get this straight. John McCain’s team chose someone whose political career was tightly interwoven with – and supported by – extremists. Not just average wingnuts. Extremists. Radicals. A secessionist and a paranoid militia organizer.

There is much, much more in the article, including a brief history of the AIP:

“The Alaskan Independence Party has got links to almost every independence-minded movement in the world,” Chryson exclaimed. “And Alaska is not the only place that’s about separation. There’s at least 30 different states that are talking about some type of separation from the United States.”

This has meant rubbing shoulders and forging alliances with outright white supremacists and far-right theocrats, particularly those who dominate the proceedings at such gatherings as the North American Secessionist conventions, which AIP delegates have attended in recent years.

12 10 2008
ds55

MSNBC just said Sarah Palin is on her bus snaking her way up the Ohio river. They stopped at a Wal-Mart, she bought some diapers. LOL! Meanwhile, Biden and the Clintons are ready to hold a huge rally together for the first time.

12 10 2008
katiebegood

Laurie (10:57:52) :
@regi…I didnt think there was anything wrong with Lewis’ remarks. He didnt liken Mccain to the other guy…cant remember his name…he likened his behavior to him. And he was right.

McCain has made a couple of feeble attempts to stop his supporters from saying things but lets face it…he was standing right in front of the old hag who said obama was an arab. He had no choice. Bet he didnt want to either. He also then added that obama was a good family man. As compared to arab men…who are not?

I’m willing to bet the farm that woman was a plant. I think everyone who asks McCain questions at his invitation only “town halls” are plants. She asked the question, thereby planting in people’s mind that Obama is an Arab, and then McCain, needing to tamp things down tells here she is wrong and gives very faint praise to Obama.

I really do wish that Obama had not turned down McCain on the town halls. He did it because McCain wouldn’t agree to an open, anyone can come version of town halls. Obama should have publicized that and challenged McCain to an open format. Obama does really well in that format and McCain doesn’t when he can’t get his questions from his plants (like at the “debate”)

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

For those curious.. here’s the full story the Villiage Voice released about Palin and her house(gate)

The entertainment from the little woman is simply endless..

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/5

12 10 2008
Drink H. H. Pal

also, I went to cnn.com and commented about Palin’s possibility to be on the show…….am very much against giving her more air time. let’s all go there and vote no!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

pamela (10:47:39) :
asianHusseingrrlMN (10:40:08) :

—————–
Sorry, Ladies – I really did not make myself clear.

I totally agree with what Congressman Lewis (D-Ga) said and I told him so.

I was answering why I thought Obama was distancing himself from the Congressman’s statements. It’s certainly not because Congressman Lewis is black.

Obama’s response:
“Sen. Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies,” said the campaign statement. But wait! There’s more:

“John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night.”

But…….. bringing up the specter of George Wallace in the South (and I totally understand Congressman Lewis’ reasoning for doing so) is not a bandwagon, as regards McCain/Palin, that most Democratic politicians would want to be associated with. And I do agree with you, asianHusseingrrlMN, “Palin, at least, is akin to George Wallace”, I just think it would really bite Obama if he agreed with that assessment.

12 10 2008
megacephalus

The AIP has also had a long association with the Constitution Party, which has had a prominent role in a number of racist “patriot” (i.e. militia) movements.

Neiwert summarizes the article at his blog:

Essentially here’s what we found:

That Gov. Palin, when a Wasilla city council member, formed an alliance with some of the more radical far-right citizens in Wasilla and vicinity, particularly members of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party who were allied with local John Birch Society activists. These activists played an important role in her election as Wasilla mayor in 1996.
Once mayor, one of Mrs. Palin’s first acts was to attempt to appoint one of these extremists (a man named Steve Stoll) to her own seat on the city council. This was a man with a history of disrupting city council meetings with intimidating behavior. She was blocked by a single city council member.
Afterward, Mrs. Palin fired the city’s museum director at the behest of this faction.
She fomented an ultimately successful effort to derail a piece of local gun-control legislation which would simply have prohibited the open carry of firearms into schools, liquor stores, libraries, courthouses and the like. The people recruited to shout this ordinance down included these same figures, notably the local AIP representative (who became the AIP’s chairman that same year).
She remained associated politically with the local AIP/Birch faction throughout her tenure as mayor on other issues, particularly a successful effort to amend the Alaska Constitution to prohibit local governments from issuing any local gun-control ordinances.
In general, we found that not only did Mrs. Palin have numerous associations with these extremists, she actively sought to empower them locally and to enact their agendas both locally and on a state level.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

My posts are not posting.

12 10 2008
waxman

Lock Pepper Palin

Along the lines of “That One!” aka Dal’ comment, Presidential elections – even “Land Slides” tend to be close (at least recently) when it comes to the popular vote. I think most pollsters believe that the final count will only be a few percentage points. I hope to see a bigger mandate – but I would not be surprised to see it closer than seems to make sense.

Over the last 40 years, the Presidency has been owned by the republicans other than Carter and Clinoton – and don’t forget that Clinton got in because Ross Perot was there and Ford’s pardoning of Nixon made a lot of people mad which helped Carter get in. My point being that there are a lot of republicans out there who made their mind up before they knew who the Democratic candidate would be. Mind you, the negativity of the McCain Palin Campaign is impacting some of these to move toward Obama – but really only the “Educated Elites” who now realize with Sarah Palin on Board, they are no longer welcome in the republican party (They have a little problem with such a low IQ working on solving the most complex problems in the world). But the “Joe Six Packs” (Whoever that is) will never change – Logic and debate mean nothing to them. They will grasp any soundbite that trashes the democrat. They would still vote for John McCain if he died before the election.

So I hope to see a double digit victory, but in the end, I believe it will be close – which is why a strong ground game on Election day is so important. I’d rather see people think it is close on election day and make every effort to get to the poll then think it is a blow-out and their vote is not needed.

Have faith… Polling is not an exact science – but all the non-poll indicators seem to be showing that public opinion is moving toward Obama. I just hope that the McCain Campaign does not whip up so much hatred that governing becomes difficult… Because in the end, you have to govern everyone.

12 10 2008
megacephalus

The “black helicopter” concept “became popular in the United States militia movement, and in associated political circles, in the 1990s as an alleged symbol and warning sign of a conspiratorial totalitarian military takeover of part or all of the United States”. Timothy McVeigh, among others, was a firm believer.

Neiwert and Blumenthal followed up with a fantastic article published yesterday in Salon. If you weren’t already convinced that John McCain’s team had no idea what they were doing when they chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, you will be after reading this story.

Meet Sarah Palin’s best Alaska pals:

Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin. An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory.

Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution’s language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as “Black Helicopter Steve,” to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. “Every time I showed up her door was open,” said Chryson. “And that policy continued when she became governor.”

So let’s get this straight. John McCain’s team chose someone whose political career was tightly interwoven with – and supported by – extremists. Not just average wingnuts. Extremists. Radicals. A secessionist and a paranoid militia organizer.

12 10 2008
THAT ONE TiredMom HUSSEIN

Marty in Fairfax, how do you manage to click around so fast?! I can’t seem to keep up with the board, much less look up other stuff.

The MSM keep avoiding the fact that McMean was unfaithful to 1st wife with 2nd wife, and to this day must pay 1st wife’s medical bills, as a condition of his divorce! It is widely believed he dumped her due to her disfigurment from accident while he was POW. She is always gracious when asked about it saying McMean just didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to act like 25!

12 10 2008
karion

Oh AKM, I have one for you! I couldn’t sleep last night and was digging around and found something you are going to love.

Okay, some context. Palin’s most frequent sound byte is that she took on her own party, exposed corruption by a fellow Republican, etc. I was curious about the circumstances of it and did some independent research.

Palin ran for lieutenant governor in 2002 and lost, albeit not by much. Then-governor Murkowski appointed her to an – wait for it – ethics seat on the state oil and energy board. She got wind that another member of the board – Randy Ruedrich (then and now, the head of the state Republican party), was doing Republican business of the Board’s computers and on Board time.

She complained to Murkowski (then the governor) and shortly thereafter, Ruedrick resigned and the governor’s office started some kind of investigation. Palin was upset because she wasn’t being apprised of the status and developments and was concerned that she would be seen as part of the coverup. Also, gosh darn it, wasn’t she the ethics person on the Board?

Your money quote – verbatim:

Palin said that either the state should take over the investigation from her and publicly declare she was under orders to be silent, or that she be allowed “to handle this issue the way I deem is most appropriate.” Given her choice, she wrote, she would have the state hire an independent investigator. And if her letter went ignored, she threatened, “I will take such further action as I deem appropriate to protect my reputation with regard to this unfortunate matter.”

(Another great quote from the article? “French [that would be Hollis French, who managed the Legislative Council’s investigation of Palin] said he came to respect Palin and got to know her as she attempted to bring forward the facts of the case.”)

She resigned about a week after giving this quote.

Ruedrich? Oh, he paid a fine for violating the EXACT SAME STATUTE Palin was found to have violated. Also, he didn’t have a financial stake in his “conflict of interest and abuse of power.” Just, like our girl Palin, a personal/professional one.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

I’m gonna try this again.

pamela (10:47:39) :
asianHusseingrrlMN (10:40:08) :

—————–
Sorry, Ladies – I really did not make myself clear.

I totally agree with what Congressman Lewis (D-Ga) said and I told him so.

I was answering why I thought Obama was distancing himself from the Congressman’s statements. It’s certainly not because Congressman Lewis is black.

-Obama’s response:
Sen. Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies,” said the campaign statement. But wait! There’s more:

“John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night.-

But…….. bringing up the specter of George Wallace in the South (and I totally understand Congressman Lewis’ reasoning for doing so) is not a bandwagon, as regards McCain/Palin, that most Democratic politicians would want to be associated with. And I do agree with you, asianHusseingrrlMN, “Palin, at least, is akin to George Wallace”, I just think it would really bite Obama if he agreed with that assessment.

12 10 2008
Regi

Laurie (10:57:52) :

@regi…I didnt think there was anything wrong with Lewis’ remarks. He didnt liken Mccain to the other guy…cant remember his name…he likened his behavior to him. And he was right.

I totally agree ! I’m all for what Lewis said and wish more WOULD say it. Especially more WHITE people ! hello ??????!!! are you out there white people with a clue???! A republican or two might be nice also, someone with a freaking decent IQ AND a soul??? I totally see your need for a valium, my eyes have been opened to the simple truth there are PLENTY of non-blacks in this country that would be just fine with “putting that uppity Obama in his place” thank you very much. I guess I WAS naive and optimistic things really could’ve changed that much in 30 years. They’re not even smart enough to to keep a freaking lid on their politician’s pie holes @@

12 10 2008
megacephalus

According to Stein, Steven Stoll — whose local nickname, according to Phil Munger, is “Black Helicopter Steve” — was involved in militia organizing in Wasilla the 1990s, and subscribed to most of the movement’s paranoid conspiracy theories: “The rumor was that he had wrapped his guns in plastic and buried them in his yard so he could get them after the New World Order took over.”

cut and paste from KOS… sorry but the best summary I have seen!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/12/13228/301/977/627523

12 10 2008
shikago

Hello, Mudflatters… My post have not been posting??? This is only a test…

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

One more time,
pamela (10:47:39) :
asianHusseingrrlMN (10:40:08) :

—————–
Sorry, Ladies – I really did not make myself clear.

I totally agree with what Congressman Lewis (D-Ga) said and I told him so.

I was answering why I thought Obama was distancing himself from the Congressman’s statements. It’s certainly not because Congressman Lewis is black.

But…….. bringing up the specter of George Wallace in the South (and I totally understand Congressman Lewis’ reasoning for doing so) is not a bandwagon, as regards McCain/Palin, that most Democratic politicians would want to be associated with. And I do agree with you, asianHusseingrrlMN, “Palin, at least, is akin to George Wallace”, I just think it would really bite Obama if he agreed with that assessment.

12 10 2008
shikago

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (11:13:48) :

My posts are not posting.

Not sure what’s happening, some kind of glitch I guess…

12 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)

NMJ (11:03:58) :

Abraham Lincoln.

12 10 2008
Dreams in TX

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (11:13:48) :

My posts are not posting.

We can see you!

12 10 2008
karen marie

apparently la palin believes that election brings impunity.

Sept. 17, 2008 WASILLA, Alaska — | Sarah Palin has been touting herself as fiscal watchdog throughout her political career. But Palin’s tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was characterized by waste, cronyism and incompetence, according to government officials in the Matanuska Valley, where she began her fairy-tale political rise.
[snip]
… former Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, … Palin’s estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin’s own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council’s authorization.
[snip]
Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was shocked by her response.

“I braced her about it,” he said. “I told her it was against the law to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote. She said, ‘I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’”

“I’ll never forget it — it’s one of the few times in my life I’ve been speechless,” Carney added. “It would have been easier for her to finesse it. She had the votes on the council by then, she controlled it. But she just pushed forward. That’s Sarah. She just has no respect for rules and regulations.”

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/

12 10 2008
shikago

Hear the cards falling?

Republican leaders said Saturday that they were worried Mr. McCain was heading for defeat

“I think you’re seeing a turning point,” said Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan.

Tommy Thompson former Governor of Wisconsin was asked if he was happy with Mr. McCain’s campaign, Mr. Thompson replied, “No,” and he added, “I don’t know who is.”

Pennsylvania, Robert A. Gleason Jr., the state Republican chairman “I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads.”

Republican congressman from Minnesota, is melting down because of the McCain campaign has no direction.

Mr. Danforth a retired Republican senator from Missouri said. “This is a year where everything that could go in Obama’s favor is going in Obama’s favor,” he said. “Everything that could go against McCain is against him.

McCain said yesterday “I’d like to remind you that the political pundits have been wrong several times,” Mr. McCain said, “and they’re wrong because we will win the state of Iowa in November.”

Iowa poll: Obama 54, McKillhim 41

No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws, justice and respect for all religions of our great nation.

Peace
Obama/Biden 08

12 10 2008
GrammaConcept
12 10 2008
karen marie

Local officials are also highly critical of Palin’s decision to build an emergency dispatch center — even though Wasilla and nearby Palmer already shared the costs of an emergency operation for the Mat-Su Valley. As a result of the duplication, there are now two expensive operations for an area with 85,000 people, while the city of Anchorage, with a population of over 300,000, makes do with one emergency station.

“Don’t tell me about earmarks,” snorts a borough official. “Because of Palin’s ego, she couldn’t stand the idea of sharing an emergency dispatch operation with Palmer, which has been Wasilla’s town rival ever since her high school basketball days. So she ran to [Senator] Ted Stevens to get an earmark for her own system. Now we have two expensive emergency systems and both are losing money. She’s no budget cutter — give me a break. She’s just the opposite.”

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Yea, I figured it out. I was trying to paste in Obama’s comments re: Congressman Lewis. Kept kicking me out.

12 10 2008
LA

Totally off thread…but know mudpeeps can giggle over this.
Went down to a costume shop to rent something for Halloween.
The guy that runs the shop ( after asking him what the most fav costumes were for this season) told me that he had alot of calls for MOOSE costumes!

12 10 2008
shikago

Dreams in TX (11:17:34) :

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (11:13:48) :

My posts are not posting.

We can see you!

————————–

We can see the tread too, but everytime we try to post something more than this, it’s being dumped somehow.

I’ll try here again

12 10 2008
epic

Likening Palin to Wallace would be a serious mistake.

Anyone doing so will immediately invite accusations of trying to incite or, being reckless about the possibility of inciting, an attempt on Palin’s life.

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Thank God for John Lewis. It is time for every sane American with an influential voice to stand up and call it like it is. Sarah Palin and her enabler John mccain are inciting the radical right wing with fear-and-hate-mongering causing a new racial divide and if someone isn’t adult enough to stop it America will end up with another dead President (or presidential candidate). We will truly reap the scorn of the entire world and our own citizens. Forget about the downturn in the economy for one second if we allow Sarah Palin to act out her strategy of inciting her supporters to behead Barack Obama the U.S. of A. will fall into civil chaos and be wide open for both dometic terrorist attacks as well as attacks from abroad. “Stand Up, John McCain and truly put your ‘Country First’ by demanding the resignation of Barracuda-Devil Girl and conceding the election!” It’s the only way to halt the madness.

12 10 2008
pj

for anyone interested in listening to the Clintons and Biden today without interruptions you can go to the link below…sorry if this has been posted already.

http://www.barackobama.com/live/

12 10 2008
shikago

Hear the cards falling?

Republican leaders said Saturday that they were worried Mr. McCain was heading for defeat

“I think you’re seeing a turning point,” said Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan.

Tommy Thompson former Governor of Wisconsin was asked if he was happy with Mr. McCain’s campaign, Mr. Thompson replied, “No,” and he added, “I don’t know who is.”

Pennsylvania, Robert A. Gleason Jr., the state Republican chairman “I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads.”

Republican congressman from Minnesota, is melting down because of the McCain campaign has no direction.

Mr. Danforth a retired Republican senator from Missouri said. “This is a year where everything that could go in Obama’s favor is going in Obama’s favor,” he said. “Everything that could go against McCain is against him.

McCain said yesterday “I’d like to remind you that the political pundits have been wrong several times,” Mr. McCain said, “and they’re wrong because we will win the state of Iowa in November.”

Iowa poll: Obama 54, McKillhim 41

No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

Peace

12 10 2008
Shorebird

As Alice would say, “Curiouser and curiouser!”

For all fellow citizens of the Mudflats Nation, here’s a wonderful story which made me smile today: “106 Year Old Voter Chooses Obama”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7665925.stm

12 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!!

I keep praying that those emails get released quickly and , at least one of them, JUST ONE, has Palin saying that she needs to get rid of Monegan because he won’t/can’t fire Wooten.
Then, I imagine there will be a whack-load of other ethics violations in the pot, to, anyway, and also.
There’s still a whole lot of iceberg left.

Let’s push for those emails. I still think the FBI oughta be clearing the files and phones and computers out of her office as we speak.

12 10 2008
shikago

Hear the cards falling?

Republican leaders said Saturday that they were worried Mr. McCain was heading for defeat

“I think you’re seeing a turning point,” said Saul Anuzis, the Republican chairman in Michigan.

Tommy Thompson former Governor of Wisconsin was asked if he was happy with Mr. McCain’s campaign, Mr. Thompson replied, “No,” and he added, “I don’t know who is.”

Pennsylvania, Robert A. Gleason Jr., the state Republican chairman “I worry about the southeast. Obama is making inroads.”

Republican congressman from Minnesota, is melting down because of the McCain campaign has no direction.

Mr. Danforth a retired Republican senator from Missouri said. “This is a year where everything that could go in Obama’s favor is going in Obama’s favor,” he said. “Everything that could go against McCain is against him.

McCain said yesterday “I’d like to remind you that the political pundits have been wrong several times,” Mr. McCain said, “and they’re wrong because we will win the state of Iowa in November.”

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Thank God for John lewis. Now it is time for every other sane American with an influential voice in this fine country of ours to go one step further and demand that John mccain force his half-barracuda/half-devil-girl running mate’s resignation and then concede the presidential election to the opposition. Otherwise, the downturn in the economy will be chicken feed to the civil and international unrest that will ensure if Sarah Palin is able to inact her right-wing radical plan to incite one of her idiot followers to assasinate Barack Obama.

12 10 2008
shikago

Iowa poll: Obama 54, McKillhim 41

12 10 2008
epic

“Let’s push for those emails. I still think the FBI oughta be clearing the files and phones and computers out of her office as we speak.”

I want to see the FBI and IRS fighting for office space in Juneau and Wassilla

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

To McCain:
No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

12 10 2008
not your pal Palin

If you want to feel good about a U.S. intellectual who tells it like it is, listen to an interview with Gore Vidal recorded last spring: http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/gore-vidal-on-mccain-obama-clinton-videos/

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

To McCain: No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that.

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

The Palin-McCain ticket is in dire straits. Thank God for John lewis and his sane opposition to McCain. It is time for McCain to demand the resignation of his running mate who’s juvenile understanding of politics is to win at all costs even if it means inciting supporters to want to kill your opposition. Then, McCain needs to be the hero he is and concede the election to Barack Obama. We are a country in economic turmoil we don’t need division and civil upheaval. And, God forbid one of Palin’s idiot supporters did physical harm to Barack Obama. The international community would go nuts on us. “Country First, Mr. McCain, concede the election!”

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

@Crust Scramble, ah, I get it. Thanks for clarifying. I think Obama did an admirable job in his response. He managed to call out McCain while denying that McCain was Wallace.

@epic, I am not suggesting that anyone say it (though many people have compared her to Musselini), but I have no problems with what John Lewis said re: Georgue Wallace.

One more time, people, please post links and not whole chunks of text as it’s slowing down my connection considerably. Thanks.

12 10 2008
Regi

My laugh for the day :

McCain said Saturday that Lewis’ statement was “shocking and beyond the pale.”

“The notion that legitimate criticism of Sen. Obama’s record and positions could be compared to Gov. George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign.

“I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I’ve always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hard-working Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track.”

12 10 2008
Shikago aka Gary Hussein Shikago

Try again, this should have been with my last comment…
To McCain:
No, “my friend”, you are so wrong about Iowa, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

12 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

At first I thought Palin only wore rose-colored glasses because she had trouble seeing what was going on in the real world. After reading her comment, “So no, not having done anything wrong, and again very much appreciating being cleared of any legal wrongdoing or unethical activity at all,” I now realize that they aren’t glasses at all…

They are blinders. Shameful…might I suggest she actually read the report? Never mind… she doesn’t read!

12 10 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

i urge everyone to please go to andrew halcro’s site and voice your support

were it not for halcro, the malfeasance of the palin administration my never have come to light

and i find it interesting that none of the reporters brought up halcro’s name as a good alaskan who was smeared by palin and meg

remember, they were saying that he and monegan drank for 3 hours to hatch this entire thing

they owe halcro and his family a huge apology

im am a progressive, and i disagree with mr halcro on many of the issues, but i have read his bio and this man is nothing if not a great alaskan…and a true family man with two daughters….neither of whom got knocked up at 17

12 10 2008
Regi

Something else besides losing any illusions regarding McCain’s character. Jill Biden seems like an incredible woman ! A true inspiration.

12 10 2008
pamela

@Crust Scramble, apologies, I do see your point – I’m just so sick of the false outrage politicians cling to.

The vile rhetoric that seems to be popping up at at McCain rallies should be universally condemned, and Sen. McCain, Gov. Palin, and all their apologists, like Sen. Graham, owe the country an apology for encouraging this, either explicitly or implicitly. Instead, they blithely act as if they were the wronged” party. “Country First” my @$$. (I say this as someone who in 2000 supported McCain – I am so disappointed in this version of a man I once thought was decent and honorable.)

12 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Joe and Jill Biden along with Bill and Hillary Clinton rally in Scranton PA today.

Here is a link if you want to watch

http://www.barackobama.com/live/

12 10 2008
Shikago

Cont. from above…
To McCain: No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

12 10 2008
katiebegood

“That One!” aka Dal (10:38:11) :

High Ranking Republicans Starting To Distance Themselves From McCain

I read yesterday that they are talking about withdrawing their financial support of McCain’s campaign and put their money into the threatened Senators and House members instead. That’s pretty much admitting defeat.

12 10 2008
badbill

Typical Rove tactics. Reality is what plays best for your ends.

12 10 2008
epic

McCain has 22% chance of taking Florida.

That’s before the Medicaid cut proposals filter through to the polls.

Can’t win without Florida.

12 10 2008
Shikago

I have been trying to post all day, anyone know whats up???

12 10 2008
Shikago

Then it posts??? Sorry guys….
I’ll try again to finish my thoughts from above…

12 10 2008
Shikago

To McCain: No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

12 10 2008
wired hussein differently

asianHusseingrrlMN:

Thank you for the link to the American Prospect article on Rachel Maddow( now waaaay upstream on this thread).
I enjoyed her appearance with Jay Leno, too.

I heart Rachel.

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

Shikago- read the FAQs at the top. If you’re trying to post links, you probably tried too many times and you *disappear*. It’s happened to me😦

I’ve lost many long posts and am seriously thinking about changing my name and starting over (’cause I just can’t quit you AKM!).

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

@Shikago, some of your posts are going through.

@katiebegood, if you bet the farm that woman is a plant, you are wrong. Sadly, she’s an ignorant old biddy from rural MN. See the link below.

the-uptake.groups.theuptake.org/en/videogalleryView/id/933/

The African American guy in Wisc., however, WAS a plant.

12 10 2008
epic

disenchanted tore (11:47:13) :
I’ve lost many long posts and am seriously thinking about changing my name and starting over

——————————————–
Write your post in Wordpad and copy and paste.
Saves a great deal of screaming.

12 10 2008
Shikago

Attach to above…
To John McCain; No “My friend”. you are so wrong and your running mate is deaf appearantly. You two represent everything that is rotten with this country. Since my forefather fought to create this country we love so much, you John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your records. Congratulations on that. 232 years, congratulations on that.

12 10 2008
Shikago

I have cut and pasted from word, retyped the entire post from scratch. Still seems to be a malfunction on the part of wordpress maybe?? WTFK?

12 10 2008
Pistol Tanker Palin

Governor Palin is a liar of the first order. If her constituents don’t ask for her to step down (impeached), I will be disappointed. She does not deserve to hold her office.

It will be very interesting to see what comes of House-gate.

12 10 2008
cincykid

I just listened to the interview. Wow! Sarah somehow found all the g’s she’s been droppin’ on the campaign trail tryin’ to make herself sound folksy and six-packy.

As for her take on the report, oh, dear, God. She is truly out of her mind.
–Cincykid (aka Puffin Shrapnel Palin)

12 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

watching Hillary…. I hope she brings up the smear campaign.

She did mention how it would be “nice if you got a VP you could be proud of”.

*slap*

12 10 2008
Shikago

Funny it’s the bs that is getting posted and everytime this is effecting many people I imagine, I am giving up for now, my bp is too high…frustrating

12 10 2008
Regi

Hillary’s speaking. She has become one seriously formidable speaker. She just might convince Obama to share the presidency !

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

It has taken the whole Bears game to read down through all these posts before I comment.

WIRED — Please – 55 isn’t old – I’m 55, too. We are in our prime.

LA — Chicago Tribune is touting Sarah Palin Halloween masks in the paper today.

The Trib also prominently featured the AP stories about Troopergate and also an article about home much money Alaska has reimbursed Palin (and family) for going to church-related appearances.

There have been many references to the Newsweek and London Times articles on this post – but I was struck by the Time Magazine article “What the Troopergate Report Really Says.

My favorite quote: But the Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so.

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html

12 10 2008
ds55

Shikago sometimes the system boots posts if they contain links to other web pages.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

“Shikago (11:54:03) :

I have cut and pasted from word, retyped the entire post from scratch. Still seems to be a malfunction on the part of wordpress maybe?? WTFK?”
—————
Sometimes, I think it has to do with embedded HTML if you’re trying to copy and paste from another source. But, saying that, I could be totally wrong!

12 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

“Time to take the garbage out, mom. Where should I put it?” Oh just dump it here on this page, son.”

And here it is = now dumped in the Herald Sun of Australia in today’s paper. Our Gal Sal sure does get around! And how about that First Dud !! Busy little Alaskan beaver, wasn’t he ?? Lol.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24485138-663,00.html

12 10 2008
ds55

@Regi: I like Hillary better now that she’s not trying to defeat Obama. I’ll never forget her dodging sniper fire lies, though. I was angry at her back then, now it’s just funny.

12 10 2008
Lori W.

Shikago – YES, I can see your postings from my house in California – not to worry!

12 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

@wired hussein differently:

“As far as I’m concerned, Obama has not demonstrated much in the way of true liberalism. ”

He came close in a speech on August 1, 2007:

“This Administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand. I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom.

That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. The separation of powers works. Our Constitution works. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers, and that justice is not arbitrary.

This Administration acts like violating civil liberties is the way to enhance our security. It is not. There are no short-cuts to protecting America, and that is why the fifth part of my strategy is doing the hard and patient work to secure a more resilient homeland.

Too often this Administration’s approach to homeland security has been to scatter money around and avoid hard choices, or to scare Americans without telling them what to be scared of, or what to do. A Department set up to make Americans feel safer didn’t even show up when bodies drifted through the streets in New Orleans. That’s not acceptable.”

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php

12 10 2008
epic

Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P. (11:55:39) :

She did mention how it would be “nice if you got a VP you could be proud of”.

You’ve got one of those in the oven right now. He should be done in 24 days or so.

12 10 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

Regi,

had hillary conducted herself during the primaries as she has since the convention, she wouldve won the nomination

that is a fact

her problem is, she hired the wrong advisors

12 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

Hillary just Deputized us all!

WOOT!

I’m wearing my gold star all week!!!

12 10 2008
Ky Fork Decoy Palin

Man, I have such a hard time understanding written transcripts from this woman, but at least it is better than hearing her voice. “Alask-ah” bothers me, ever so much.

Thank you, AKM! I am so embarrassed by how this woman is representing Alaska. The rest of the country seems to think Alaskans are all swimming in money, and it couldn’t be further from the truth.

Has there been any serious talk about a recall vote?

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

I’m watching the Clinton/Biden rally in PA. A few minutes ago, Jill Biden gave a speech. Has Todd Palin ever spoken at a rally?

12 10 2008
Laurie

I think some of you may have noticed…but a poster named “intriged”has been here since the beginning. At first he/she said they were independent…and the poster was always anger.

When responding to a poster…it was done with vitriol and anger. Later…I realized this was what I considered to be a troll. I noticed he/she was here yesterday a bit…and upset some people.

I know its hard…but try to ignore . They just want us to get engaged with things that have no relevance to what we are all trying to do here.

Sorry if you think I have overstepped any boundary

12 10 2008
DEE

Quote from OHMYGOODNESS
“I had hoped that this historic process would prove to the world that Americans are capable of looking beyond race. My 13 year old daughter didn’t understand what the big deal was about a black man running for President as she has never felt the affects of racism. Sure she’s been taught the politically correct version of the civil rights movement and slavery but to read about racism and to feel it is two totally different things.”

“I have had to stop watching the goings on in the campaign with my 13 year old daughter when it became clear that she was developing negative thoughts about whites based on what she was hearing about a black man. Never have I had to discuss current race relations with my child. We live in a predominately white suburb and believe it or not she has never felt the affects of racism. For the first time in her life she is questioning friendships. For the first time she’s wondering if her white friends see her negatively. I don’t like it and I find it disgusting that our children are taking this in from a Presidential campaign.”

12 10 2008
ds55

@Blue in MT: No I don’t think I’ve ever heard Todd Palin speak at a rally. You’d think they’d at least trot him up to the microphone to say “Vote for my wife!”.

12 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Is anyone watching the Biden/Clinton rally in Pennsylvania?

Jill and Hill must have emailed each other about the blue suit, LOL!
Is it me or does this seem like more of a “Go Hillary” rally…just mho…

12 10 2008
ds55

Joe Biden just said Hillary is always fighting against abuses of power.
POW! Take that, Sarah!

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

Joe Biden is talking about the abuse of power ………. and making a powerful statement.

Goooooooo Joe!

12 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

wired hussein differently, I heart Rachel, too. Good-looking, charming, and intelligent to boot (not to mention funny). What’s not to like?

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

epic (11:28:50) :

“Let’s push for those emails. I still think the FBI oughta be clearing the files and phones and computers out of her office as we speak.”

I want to see the FBI and IRS fighting for office space in Juneau and Wassilla
————

Hey, epic, don’t you think the Department of Homeland Security is going to need a desk?

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

What a great job the Clintons and the Bidens are doing in
Scranton! Doesn’t it make you all feel good to know with these folks and the Obamas we have every reason to be hopeful and very, very proud!
It almost makes you feel sorry for the repugs, they have nothing to be proud of…Almost, but not really..:)
Obama/Biden 2008

12 10 2008
addseattle

Joe Biden just said that the main thing he and Hillary learned from their backgrounds, and have fought for throughout their careers is “abuse of power”. Wow! He’s used that term several times …

12 10 2008
Charles

My impression is that its props to Branchflower for economically conducting the investigation in an evenhanded manner and quickly reaching defensible conclusions in the face of a significant challenges, mostly stonewalling by his misguided antagonists. He could show Washington, D.C., a thing or two about how to conduct a fair investigation. His report has definitely taken the bloom off the rose and in a way the Palins may find to increasingly insidious over the long run. Wonder what’s in the confidential section? Rather than raising the accusing finger against the Palins for every crime in the book, it seems the report surgically raises very hard to answer questions about the their basic candor and competence. That makes it harder for the McCain/Palin crew to dismiss the report as a partisan witchhunt (something I assume Sarah Palin would know about in another context). The report is like a string one can pull and thereby cause all kinds of unexpected phenomena to occur in unexpected places. For starters, any notion of Palin’s competency and independence are out the window. It’s definitely all downhill from here for Queen Sarah, barring some personal epiphany and rehabilitation for her (probably not possible under her blindered world view).

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Go Joe!

12 10 2008
ds55

Found on FaceBook:
“God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts”

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

I’m watching! Isn’t it great?!!

12 10 2008
epic

Laurie (12:09:21) :

As far as I’m concerned this is ‘Obama Biden 08, Mudflats online campaign office’ and I am a volunteer (Snarks and Zingers)

Trolls are light relief and batting practice.

12 10 2008
Jay

Mrs. Palin is far from stupid, and to suggest that is naive. She’s a wizard in the political game — cue the soundbite and step back, leaving the press with nothing worthwhile to report. She handled these reporters smartly. The reporters, meanwhile, obviously had their hands tied — those who were interested in the truth had nowhere to turn and the others were clearly in her camp, hence the softballs.

Palin did the smart thing, not the honorable thing. But let’s face it: Stop Looking Her To Do The Honorable Thing. It’s not in her capacity. Certainly not in her character. Also with with McCain’s campaign in the bag for hundreds of millions of dollars, she can’t risk owning up to even small mistakes, nevermind big ones like Troopergate. This will all be over in less than a month.

I do wish the fine people of Alaska the best. They’ve shown grit and have led the rest of us across a winding and confusing path in regards to the governor and her behavior. I’m in awe of the citizen’s leadership.

But also know that Palin is not unlike a lot of politicians in our own backyards. They Alaskan’s have done their part until the next election. We in the lower 48, however, can follow their lead and examine the representatives in our own states for potential wrongdoing.

This is a great blog and I’ve learned tons tuning in daily. Thank you.

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

RE: concern previously posted that high poll numbers for Obama will cause some people to be complacent and perhaps not actually vote — I am pretty confident that all the Obama supporters are going to make sure they vote and participate in this historic election. Everyone will want to tell their grandkids — I voted for Obama. I was a part of of it.

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

I should have known. Mr. Palin probably only speaks at AIP rallies!

Joe is looking and sounding great. Go Obama/Biden!

12 10 2008
ds55

Joe Biden is on fi-yah! Give it to ’em, Joe Baby!

12 10 2008
Di

This … there are no words.

Hey congratulations, I just voted and you were at number 2 🙂 Here’s to a win for you and all the mudflatters.

12 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

Given the ACORN “stuff”, I want to keep this link active as it shows what the Republicans have been doing with their own ‘acorn’ activity.

http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/10/05/opinion/hjjbijjejjigfj.txt

Oct 5 article written by the Republican Lt-Governor of Montana (Governor is a Democrat) chastising the Republican party for their ‘slimy’ tactics re veterans and voters’ lists

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

This is like the debate live blogs – watching Joe now.

Love the “How the hell can you solve global warming if you don’t know what causes it?!!

12 10 2008
ds55

“We will End This War!” Woo-Hoo!

12 10 2008
addseattle

Joe is getting quite a few digs in – oh yeah! (Sorry for my typo above, I should have said he said that he & Hillary have been fighting AGAINST abuse of power (not for!!!).

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

With rallies like this one I think that there will be an exceptional turnout. It makes you feel all patriotic and makes you look forward to the future doesn’t it. How long since anyone in this country has felt this hopeful…8 years?

12 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Joe’s on a roll now–God I love that man! Sorry, Jill–not like that🙂

12 10 2008
Teresa

JM did see the light, he saw the grasps of his campaign slipping away… GO JOE!!

12 10 2008
Ohio Sue

You know, the thing that absolutely distinguishes the Obama campaign from the McCain campaign just happened while Joe Biden was giving his speech: Biden said he has been friends with John McCain for 33 years and that he (Joe) admired McCain for his bravery and his service to his Country. The crowd CLAPPED when he was talking about John McCain. The difference couldn’t be clearer. Really.

12 10 2008
Teresa

did= didn’t .. sorry

12 10 2008
ds55

Joe made a boo-boo, he said:
“How in the hell… heck are you going to change it if you don’t know where it starts?!”

12 10 2008
Ohio Sue

Sigh.
You know, the thing that absolutely distinguishes the Obama campaign from the McCain campaign just happened while Joe Biden was giving his speech: Biden said he has been friends with John McCain for 33 years and that he (Joe) admired McCain for his bravery and his service to his Country. The crowd CLAPPED when he was talking about John McCain. The difference couldn’t be clearer. Really.

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

Re: ds55 (12:28:20) :
Joe made a boo-boo, he said:
“How in the hell… heck are you going to change it if you don’t know where it starts?!”

And the crowd loved it.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

I loved his reference ot ‘Abuse of Power’..Have we heard anything from Sarah/Todd today?

12 10 2008
LA

Can anyone post the link to the Rally so I can stream it? I don’t have cable.

12 10 2008
addseattle

http://www.barackobama.com/live/

Live streaming of the speech, but I think it’s coming to a close soon…

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

Thanks for link!!!

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Having only recently “met” Palin, I want to find out from Alaskans if you have ever witnessed Palin’s head spinning when she spews?

12 10 2008
katiebegood

V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society (12:19:33) :

Given the ACORN “stuff”, I want to keep this link active as it shows what the Republicans have been doing with their own ‘acorn’ activity.

I read another story (unfortunately I can’t find it now) that said that the Republicans ran voter registration drives and they tore up any registration papers that indicated the person was a Democrat. That’s a crime! It’s also a shame.

All this ACORN stuff is nothing more that the Republicans needing a bogey man for each election. Unfortunately ACORN is usually their choice.

If you want the real story about ACORN, go here, and pass it on:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/acorn_rallies_its_troops.php

Right now they are trying to say that the Democrats are going to steal the election by all the ACORN illegal registrations. Unfortunately they can’t point to one that got past the registrar of voters. And Michele Malkin has a ridiculous article about a man who ACORN supposedly bought cigarettes for so he would register 72 times. That is absurd. ACORN employees are paid by the hour. Why would they do that. And do the Republicans really think that 72 registrations for the same person would make it through and that person would be able to vote 72 times?

12 10 2008
Ky Fork Decoy Palin

ds55 (12:16:01) :

Found on FaceBook:
“God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts”
********
That is absolutely brilliant!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Well, let’s GETUP! That was great. 2300+ viewers.

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

Oooo – I think Joe may have bust the speakers on my laptop!!! All in a good cause…

12 10 2008
addseattle

That was really good – you go Joe!

12 10 2008
Bobg

MSNBC and CNN cut Biden’s talk off to talk to the “experts.” The GOP talking head said that it is odd that Clinton left to go to Virginia to campaign for Obama without listening to his wife’s speech. Come on! The Ex-President told people that he had a tight schedule and had to leave right away after his talk. These talking heads grasp at any straw they can.

12 10 2008
karion

Holy hell, Biden is knocking this one out of the park.

It is truly amazing to me how different the tones are in their respective campaigns. I actually had to catch my breath a couple of times – in utter disbelief that I am finally seeing a campaign and a ticket that inspires me.

My opinion of Joe Biden has done a complete reverse-Palin since his nomination.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Wow, what a finish for Biden! He told the story about his dad and how he would say son, when things go wrong and you fall down, get up. He said that now more people had fallen down than ever before.He ended by repeating get up, get up, get up to screams and thunderous clapping.Man, I am inspired.

12 10 2008
emcd

Excuse me, but what exactly is the “house story” that several posters referred to?

12 10 2008
Proud2BUSA aka Krinkle Bearcat

AKM – curious how Alaskans are responding to this overall? Do even the most ardent of Palin supporters see her twisting the obvious fact that she was found, by a Republican majority committee, of abusing her powers? How are Alaskans responding? Any hope of turning your state blue?

In my day, Nixon resigned from the Presidency because of his lying. It’s amazing how far we’ve come, and how the American public is willing to tolerate such a low standard for our leaders. No wonder the global community is turning its back on us.

One thing I am thankful is that the truth is now coming out about Palin and how she is on the ticket. The Repubs have no option but to bring forth their Anti-Choice option. I respect and cherish children, too. That’s why I want to make sure there is funding for their health care, funding for good schools, and an economy that can support jobs for these children who grow up to become good adults. Which ticket supports that? Why, Senators Obama and Biden.

12 10 2008
epic

Does the guy have any Baptist preachers in his ancestry?

12 10 2008
Stanley Krute

@ judi hussein that one Obama 12:43:29:

Wow indeed !!!

Assignment, America: compare and contrast THAT energy with the energy that the Entity Currently Known as Sarah Palin is busy fanning.

Go Joe !!!!

— stan

12 10 2008
JP

West Virginian (05:58:08) :

This woman is delusional. The McCreepy campaign is “taking the high road”?? Where was she when they said their campaign was going to be 100% negative?

The Tasergate comment was interesting. Guess she didn’t want to say Troopergate. She was careful to say she hadn’t violated any “legal” issues.

Again, does she take drugs??
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Well, quite possibly. Read Hunter S. Thompson’s accounts of the 1972 and 1992 campaigns, and you’ll see plenty of allusions (of varying degrees of credibility, granted) to candidates and campaign workers using a mix of uppers (to campaign relentlessly for months) and downers (to sleep when so fired up by what SP calls “the mission” and, of course, the uppers).

I personally thought the Gibson interview read like she’d been snorting cocaine. All that “didn’t blink” crap, riffing off old John McCain war stories. And there was something pretty drug-addled and trippy about her “and here comes Putin, rearing his ugly head and drifting into our airspace” answers with Couric, where she not only spoke in disjointed sentence fragments, but seemed completely unaware of it.

I think the campaign noticed (how could they not?) and, terrified of how this could play out in the debate, sent her off Sedona for four days to dry out, and get some real sleep.

I mean, really, what would you put the odds on at least one person in McCain’s inner campaign circle being a cocaine user? Must be pretty close to 100%. You think Sarah wouldn’t be up for a bit of that? Makes you feel invincible, haven’t you heard?

12 10 2008
Sally

On October 10, The Guardian posted a long but worthwhile read: “The chameleon: who is the real Sarah Palin” by Ian Cobain.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/10/uselections2008-sarahpalin1

12 10 2008
Halcrow

Wow.

Every word spoken was long, long overdue to be said in public.

As goes America, so goes the world. You go, Joe…and take the rest of us with you, please.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

emcd (12:45:29) :

Excuse me, but what exactly is the “house story” that several posters referred to?
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Housegate – post with the Onion on the home page. Just Sarah keeping on giving for us mudpuppies!

12 10 2008
Regi

Right now they are trying to say that the Democrats are going to steal the election by all the ACORN illegal registrations. Unfortunately they can’t point to one that got past the registrar of voters. And Michele Malkin has a ridiculous article about a man who ACORN supposedly bought cigarettes for so he would register 72 times. That is absurd. ACORN employees are paid by the hour. Why would they do that. And do the Republicans really think that 72 registrations for the same person would make it through and that person would be able to vote 72 times?

Some of them would do it to prove they’ve been working, sheer boredom, who knows? The only thing that’s important is ACORN flags them and assists in getting rid of/prosecuting the people that make up those false registrations. ACORN has no reason to tarnish it’s reputation making up false registrations they KNOW aren’t going to get through anyway. Why aren’t they after Diebold or officials that use shady tactics to toss people off rolls, count ballots behind closed doors, etc…

12 10 2008
epic

And that,Guys and gals, is how you pick a VP.

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

LA

If you can’t find the whole speech, I’m sure http://www.dailykos.com

and
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/

will have the best parts up on video soon. It’s just to juicy for them to pass up………

12 10 2008
Soldotna Sue

KTUU, an Anchorage TV station, played the video of Palin and her daughters on the ice at the hockey game last night, but turned off the audio! So, we saw the 3 Palins smiling and waving but heard none of the booing from the audience! That’s one way to cover the Governor’s activities without facing how unpopular she is with the public when they aren’t covering an invitation only rally.

12 10 2008
Val

I WANT HER IMPEACHED.

12 10 2008
Halcrow

emcd (12:45:29) :

Excuse me, but what exactly is the “house story” that several posters referred to?

There is a thread here on mudflats …https://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/house-gate/

There is speculation that the Palin house was built on an “assisted” basis by those who built the Wasilla arena.

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Pamela, the McCain 2000 “brand” must have been just that, an image seared on his backside. Because the 2008 McCain campaign has offered a much broader look than a focus on the brand, and what has been revealed is a whole lotta @$$.

12 10 2008
JP

West Virginian (05:58:08) :

This woman is delusional. The McCreepy campaign is “taking the high road”?? Where was she when they said their campaign was going to be 100% negative?

The Tasergate comment was interesting. Guess she didn’t want to say Troopergate. She was careful to say she hadn’t violated any “legal” issues.

Again, does she take drugs??
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Well, quite possibly. Read Hunter S. Thompson’s accounts of the 1972 and 1992 campaigns, and you’ll see plenty of allusions (of varying degrees of credibility, granted) to candidates and campaign workers using a mix of uppers (to campaign relentlessly for months) and downers (to sleep when so fired up by what SP calls “the mission” and, of course, the uppers).

I personally thought the Gibson interview read like she’d been snorting cocaine. All that “didn’t blink” stuff, riffing off old John McCain war stories. And there was something pretty addled and trippy about her “and here comes Putin, rearing his ugly head and drifting into our airspace” answers with Couric, where she not only spoke in disjointed sentence fragments, but seemed completely unaware of it.

I think the campaign noticed (how could they not?) and, terrified of how this could play out in the debate, sent her off Sedona for four days to dry out, and get some real sleep.

I mean, really, what would you put the odds on at least one person in McCain’s inner campaign circle being a fan of the colombian marching powder? Must be pretty close to 100%. You think Sarah wouldn’t be up for a bit of that? Makes you feel invincible, haven’t you heard?

And people have repeatedly observed that John McCain has looked “medicated”. The simplest explanation for that is that he probably is.

People assume the best of their candidates, and assume they’re all doing this straight and sober, but I’m not sure why. A presidential campaign seems a very intense and insanely demanding task, and the rewards are great for those who can maintain an almost manic level of energy over a very long timeframe. Why not get “help”? The temptation must be enormous.

12 10 2008
Regi

Fox News interviewed a woman from ACORN, she was beyond impressive🙂 I don’t know her name. I’ll try to find it. She said “they tried this 2 years ago to get us and it didn’t work then and it won’t work now “. Fox is disgusting, and so is Dobbs, no one is saying a word about the good works ACORN accomplishes. It’s all about crushing the “community organizer” @@

12 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

I voted for mudflats!

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Palin rally in about an hour in eastern Ohio. Majority of Ohio voters worried about their retirement….guess Obama needs to hit that SS plan of McCain’s to privatize. Oh yeah, good stuff would have resulted from that plan.

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

epic (11:28:50) :

“Let’s push for those emails. I still think the FBI oughta be clearing the files and phones and computers out of her office as we speak.”

I want to see the FBI and IRS fighting for office space in Juneau and Wassilla
————

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (12:13:25)
Hey, epic, don’t you think the Department of Homeland Security is going to need a desk?
+++++++++++++++++++++

Homeland Security definitely needs to be there to catch Putin rearing his head.

12 10 2008
LA

Sharon,
Hugs from Sacto!!! It’s killing me to not have Cable. I was able to get to the last part of Joe’s speech by streaming.
Will zip back to HuffPo to see the whole speech.
Thanx for the links…:)

12 10 2008
epic

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (12:55:39) :
Palin rally in about an hour in eastern Ohio. Majority of Ohio voters worried about their retirement

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Should be a nice intimate little gathering.

12 10 2008
DCSandy

Sarah Palin is a piece of work. Unbelievable.

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

News Alert..😉

Due to advanced NSA technology bought on eBay, I was able to intercept a call between Failin and McGrumpy…

McG: Hello, Sally
Failin: Hi John McCain, you mean Sarah, don’t you?
McG: Oh yes, Sandra, that’s right. Sorry
Failin: Um, John McCain, you silly old man, it’s me, Sarah, Sarah Baracuda..
McG: Ohhh, ok Sharon, what’s up with you?
Failin: John McCain, you called me, remember?
McG: Oh yea, hmmm, what did I want??? OH Yea, Now I remember.. What’s this bullshit about your house people are asking me about?
Failin: Bullshit about my house? John McCain, what do you mean, exactly?
McG: siesta, I heard people are accusing you of getting your house free. Is that true? If so, can you tell me how i can get one free?
Failin: John McCain, people say all sorts of things that aren’t true, you know that? I wouldn’t even want to dignify that baloney with an answer. You MSM gotcha people make me want to puke.
McG: Ummm, Sonata, I’m not MSM, and it’s not a gotcha. I just need to know what’s going on. Please tell me the truth?
Failin: The truth, John McCain, you can’t handle the truth. You’re old and feeble and why should you worry about my house anyway? It’s irrelevant and totally not important. I’m much more interested in talking to the American people and tell the truth right to their face.
McG: Shithead, listen to me, you stupid bitch, do you have proof you paid for your damn house or not?
Failin: John McCain, I’m a Christian woman and it’s rude for you to speak to me that way you dumb asshole.
McG: Seaver, just for once in your life, tell me the truth, please?
Failin: John McCain, the truth? Simple, I got my house when my darling hubby Todd went to Home Depot, loaded up the truck with stuff and came back, and built with his bare hands. Trig and Bristol both helped. It was a lot of work, but he managed to get built in under a month, even though he had to commute to the North Slope on a daily basis which is only 800 miles away, and attending AIP meetings, (oh yea, Hiel Vogler). He also helped take care of the kids, donated time to the homeless and even worked parttime at Target, one of my favorite stores (they gave me a Target card that seems to always have money on it, imagine that, winkwink.
McG: Solidad, did you answer my question?
Failin: Of course I did. Silly old man? Think you’ll die soon ?? I wanna be president, just kiddin pal. Gotcha..

It went almost exactly like that.

PS.. IS it legal to put a cap in the talking heads on MSNBC? Tucker Bounds is just vile. He should be put out of his misery.

12 10 2008
epic

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (13:00:08) :

Homeland Security definitely needs to be there to catch Putin rearing his head.

I get this image. Please stop!

12 10 2008
foofighter

Johanna Grasso, the claims person who handled Wooten’s work comp claim, just posted this on Andrew Halcro’s blog

Harbor Adjustment Service
Submitted by Johanna (not verified) on Sun, 2008-10-12 10:05.

OK, I’ll Bite! Finding Number 3: The claim was handled appropriately at Harbor Adjustment Service because I made sure it was. I worked at Harbor, twice, for a total of 8 years. I left because I received a great opportunity to leave adjusting and become the manager of a property, liability, and workers’ compensation claims department. I left in Harbor good standing. I was not told I was inelgible for rehire. I was not disgruntled and not insubordinate. I had returned numerous times to visit staff, including Murlene. I called 3 of the adjusters to say hello over the year since I had left. I had lunch with one adjuster, on a monthly basis, who still works there. We had been friends since 1991 but now she won’t speak with me because she believes I lied in some way. Murlene’s statement posted here is very false and causes me grave concern about my reputation. Murlene told me in a closed door meeting who Wooten was in relation to the governor. She told me that the Division of Risk Managment was pleased with my claims handling of the Wooten case. She told me the Division of Risk Management heard from someone in the Governor’s office that they wanted the claim denied. I indicated that I would not handle his claim differently knowing this and I didn’t care if the President wanted it denied; that I would not do it because of WHO the claimant was! I told her I would not deny it without the proper evidence as my license was on the line. I left Murlene’s office frustrated that the Governor’s long reaching arm was already felt in the few months Palin became Governor. I had to keep adjusting the claim and not think about who I was dealing with. In fact, I vented with others in the office about the Governor’s office after that conversation. Murlene did not pressure me to deny the claim. The frustration, for me, was about the Governor’s office more than anything else. I called the tipline about 3 weeks before Palin was nominated for VP. When I provided my statement to Branchflower in August 2008, I had NO idea he had already spoken with Murlene. I gave my very short statement and afterward, he said he had already spoken with Murlene and he would have to recontact her. Branchflower is the one who indicated to the legislators in September the Murlene may have lied and may have financial incentive to not say anthing due to her contract with the State of Alaska. I merely gave my statement and left! Yes, the claim was handled appropriately regardless of the information I had about who Wooten was and that the Governor’s office wanted it denied for whatever reason. Afterall, when I denied benefits, MY license was the one on the line.

12 10 2008
Trini

SWWNBN will probably continue to state that she was cleared of any legal or ethical wrongdoing. She’ll say it to the slobbering groups that she speaks to who don’t have any interest in the truth. Saying a thing over and over to such groups makes it true to them. No one is holding her accountable so she is free to spew it.

Nice to hear from Dr. Jill Biden. (yes, Todd, that’s Dr.!) Great job Joe! Loved the “abuse of power” references. That needs to come out over and over.

12 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

‘She has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by her friends.’ – Oscar Wilde

‘There’s nothing wrong with her that reincarnation won’t cure.’ – Jack E. Leonard

‘In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.’ – Charles, Count Talleyrand

‘She loves nature in spite of what it did to her.’ – Forrest Tucker

‘Her mother should have thrown her away and kept the stork.’ – Mae West

‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’ – Oscar Wilde

‘She has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary.’ – William Faulkner
____________

My apologies to all these great writers for having changed the gender of their remarks.

12 10 2008
ds55

@ Soldotna Sue (12:49:35) : //KTUU, an Anchorage TV station, played the video of Palin and her daughters on the ice at the hockey game last night, but turned off the audio!//

Did they also cut out the Obama supporters in the stands behind Palin with Obama signs, and giving ‘thumbs down’ signals with their hands?

12 10 2008
epic

Bye. Y’all

12 10 2008
epic

‘In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.’ – Charles, Count Talleyrand

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Finally! A role model.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

epic (13:02:47) :

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (13:00:08) :

Homeland Security definitely needs to be there to catch Putin rearing his head.

I get this image. Please stop!
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I was thinking AIP!

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Val (12:50:45) :

I WANT HER IMPEACHED.
++++++++++++++++++

Pretty please hold off until Nov 5th. Want Palin to continue to assist McCain in losing the election.

12 10 2008
katiebegood

shikago (11:15:44) :

Hello, Mudflatters… My post have not been posting??? This is only a test…

I’ve noticed that sometimes I need to refresh the page to see my posts. Maybe that’s your problem because we see them just fine.

12 10 2008
emcd

Thanks so much for the link. I had no idea she has a house like Uncle Ted!

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

UK view on Ohio’s voters… so we can expect Palin not to need to use a microphone then?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/12/uselections2008-barackobama

12 10 2008
epic

A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein ” That One” Cobra (13:09:41) :
UK view on Ohio’s voters… so we can expect Palin not to need to use a microphone then?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/12/uselections2008-barackobama

When she uses a mic she always gets this horrendous feedback.

12 10 2008
How Low Can She Go? « Photography and Politics

[…] more bizarre is her claim that this weeks report actually found her innocent.  Via the excellent MudFlats blog I read that Palin is now […]

12 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose "that one" Hussein hotrod palin

Just FYI: i’ll be there. any other mudflatters in attendance?
___

Change We Need Rally with
Michelle Obama

Please join us Monday, October 13th, for a rally with Michelle Obama in St. Paul:

Change We Need Rally
with Michelle Obama

Macalester College
Leonard Center
125 Snelling Ave S.
St. Paul, MN

Monday, October 13th
Doors Open: 2:30 p.m.
Program Begins: 4:00 p.m.

The event is free and open to the public. Tickets are not required; however an RSVP is strongly encouraged.

For security reasons, do not bring bags and please limit personal items. No signs or banners permitted.

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

@ Epic

Ha ha ha… won’t be able to sleep now, I shall just be giggling.

12 10 2008
katiebegood

1superdave (13:02:48) :
Get a clue. I hope we luckout and get McCain elected. I’ll have to come back to see if ya’ll can get any more unhidged than you are now. And ya’ll wonder why we’re afraid of Abama. Just look at his supporters. If you want a laugh just read what Ya’ll have posted here. To me if ti wasn’t so scary it would be funny.

Poor baby. I know it hurts when you are on the losing team. I have some advice for you. You might want to start getting therapy today to keep your head from exploding on November 5.

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

I hope many of you mudflatters (women & men) will take a
moment to listen to a great woman speak.
MICHELLE OBAMA-Womens Leadership Forum in
Chicago.
It appears that she is not using a tele-
prompter. You can’t make this up.

12 10 2008
Laurie

AKM superdave is a troll. up to now, we have had pleasant and stimulating coversation…and many here have gone above and beyond as far as working toward an obama victory.

Do we have to let him spew his garbage here? I am sure there is a nice right wing blog out there that would be glad to have him.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Why hate Sarah if they are going to loose anyway.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

In an articlee in The Washington Indedendent by John Dougherty, “Sen. John McCain’s wife and father-in-law continued a lucrative business partnership with disgraced financier Charles H. Keating Jr. for 11 years after the GOP presidential nominee said he ended his close friendship with Keating in March 1987.

Cindy McCain’s business partnership with Keating in a real-estate development between 1986 and 1998 netted her a tidy profit, in addition to years of significant tax benefits. Her father, who died in 2000, earned similar returns.

Illustration by: Matt Mahurin
McCain’s campaign and his Senate office did not respond to repeated phone calls and emails concerning Cindy McCain’s investment with Keating. McCain and his wife file separate tax returns and signed a pre-nuptial agreement before their marriage in May 1980. Cindy McCain owns one of the nation’s largest beer distributorships, Hensley & Company.

On Monday, McCain’s attorney, John Dowd, said in a conference call with reporters that McCain was not aware of his wife’s and father-in-law’s investment with Keating at the time it was made. “John was unconnected to that and unaware of it at the time and did not participate in it,” Dowd said.

Sarah Palin stated that she was not aware of her husband Todd’s relentless campaign to have Wooten fired.

If these people cannot keep up with what their spouses are doing, how in the HELL can they keep up with what is going on in Washington??

12 10 2008
1superdave

Surely you still believe in free speech.

12 10 2008
fawnskin chipdragon mudpuppy

troll, troll, go away
come again some other day

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

My most sincere apologies. Forgot the link.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/im46?source=sem-da-csmedia

12 10 2008
1superdave

I am a conservative, a Christian, and a proud American. I love my country . I know ya’ll think that is sick. Get over it.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

From an article in the Washinton Independent by John Dougherty, ”
Sen. John McCain’s wife and father-in-law continued a lucrative business partnership with disgraced financier Charles H. Keating Jr. for 11 years after the GOP presidential nominee said he ended his close friendship with Keating in March 1987.

Cindy McCain’s business partnership with Keating in a real-estate development between 1986 and 1998 netted her a tidy profit, in addition to years of significant tax benefits. Her father, who died in 2000, earned similar returns.

Illustration by: Matt Mahurin
McCain’s campaign and his Senate office did not respond to repeated phone calls and emails concerning Cindy McCain’s investment with Keating. McCain and his wife file separate tax returns and signed a pre-nuptial agreement before their marriage in May 1980. Cindy McCain owns one of the nation’s largest beer distributorships, Hensley & Company.

On Monday, McCain’s attorney, John Dowd, said in a conference call with reporters that McCain was not aware of his wife’s and father-in-law’s investment with Keating at the time it was made. “John was unconnected to that and unaware of it at the time and did not participate in it,” Dowd said.

Sarah Palin stated that she was unaware of the constant campaign her husband Todd was waging against Wooten.

If these two cannot keep up with what their spouses are doing, how in the HELL can they keep up with what is going on in Washington…UNbelievable!

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

1 superdave YOU SUCK!

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Dear Mudflatters,

I just wrote an essay on the World Financial Crisis for your analysis and consideration for how to analyze what you are going to hear in the MSM in this CRITICAL COMING WEEK. It is in the Mudflats Forum at this link:

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,1439.msg18099.html#msg18099

I hope you find it useful for yourself and your family and friends who are perplexed at what we are all facing. I hope what I wrote will help you and all of them quickly understand it.

Best regards to all!

12 10 2008
Shikago

Attach to 100 posts up…??? My Iowa post.
To McCain: No, “my friend”, you are so wrong, and Sarah Palin is deaf. You two represent hate and everything rotten in this country, oh I could go on here forever. Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. Congratulations on that. I will purchase that history book, skim through the index, to Past Republican Campaign Failures and you and your “friend” Sarah will be at the top of that list.

We are a hurting nation, a nation and world in need of hope & change. And everyone is joining a chorus of voices calling for new leadership, new direction, peace, laws and justice to return to our sacred land.

12 10 2008
1superdave

cat got your tonge. Mybe you think I’m going to say “get thee behind me satan” or something. Ya’ll crack me up. when I need a good laugh I just come here to see a bunch of unhindged people stressing out over a no show. Ya’ll crack me up.

12 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

1superdave (13:21:39) :

I am a conservative, a Christian, and a proud American. I love my country . I know ya’ll think that is sick. Get over it.

*************
Interesting BUSH used those same words and look what the last 8 years has brought us. And with 6 of those years Congress was majority Republican.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Sen. John McCain’s wife and father-in-law continued a lucrative business partnership with disgraced financier Charles H. Keating Jr. for 11 years after the GOP presidential nominee said he ended his close friendship with Keating in March 1987.

Cindy McCain’s business partnership with Keating in a real-estate development between 1986 and 1998 netted her a tidy profit, in addition to years of significant tax benefits. Her father, who died in 2000, earned similar returns.

Illustration by: Matt Mahurin
McCain’s campaign and his Senate office did not respond to repeated phone calls and emails concerning Cindy McCain’s investment with Keating. McCain and his wife file separate tax returns and signed a pre-nuptial agreement before their marriage in May 1980. Cindy McCain owns one of the nation’s largest beer distributorships, Hensley & Company.

On Monday, McCain’s attorney, John Dowd, said in a conference call with reporters that McCain was not aware of his wife’s and father-in-law’s investment with Keating at the time it was made. “John was unconnected to that and unaware of it at the time and did not participate in it,” Dowd said. From the Washington Independent in an article by John Dougherty.
Sarah Palin has stated that she did not know of her husband Todd’s constant campaign to have Wooten fired.
If these two cannot keep up with what their spouses are doing, how in the H*** can they keep up with what is going on in Washington?

12 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein)

I saw my Republican boss at a wedding reception last night, and although he was a little tipsy, he very graciously shook my hand and conceded the upcoming election to Barack Obama! Then he went on to tell me that he doesn’t want to talk about the election at all for the next three weeks!

It was a lovely moment!

It wasn’t quite such a lovely moment in church when the pastor actually read aloud a letter he had gotten in an email saying that America will become a different place – (a much worse place) – if the Liberals win this election. All I could think of through the rest of the sermon was the video of the “Sidewalk to Nowhere”, in which the McCain supporters ranted and yelled at the Obama supporters, and then started to sing ‘God Bless America’. I told my husband that they don’t mean God Bless America. They mean ‘God bless us, and everybody who agrees with us and believes the same thing we do, cause we’re the only ones who REALLY know how to love!’

AAAARRRGGGHHHHH!

That was a depressing moment!

So I came home to find good news, positive attitudes and positive action on Mudflats, and I feel better once again.

Thanks to all the Mudflatters for being nicer to these deluded, brainwashed people than they actually deserve! That’s why I love you all so much!

12 10 2008
Lisa

Superdave,

It always surprises me when someone refers to themselves as a christian in one breath and spreads vicious lies and hate with the next! What is a Christian exactly?

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

Deuce2, I think the best way of dealing with trolls is to ignore them – hard though it is. Had itchy fingers myself for the last 15 minutes.

12 10 2008
epic

1superdave (13:27:07

‘Tongue’ takes an ‘e’
‘Maybe’ takes an ‘a”
‘Unhinged’ doesn’t need a ‘d’

Hope this helps

12 10 2008
Shikago

So Superdave, supports the one, who sends women out to do his fighting for him because he a fwaidy tat?

12 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Lisa (13:28:30) :

Superdave,

It always surprises me when someone refers to themselves as a christian in one breath and spreads vicious lies and hate with the next! What is a Christian exactly?
******************

Or when it’s ok to stand up in a rally and shout and spew such hate as being an ARAB is bad…but oh I am christian. Seems like the checking of the bible passages hasn’t been done in a long time.

12 10 2008
Abby in NY

My god… Does she really know how evasive she sounds???… probably.

12 10 2008
Judy in Chicago

I would have enjoyed seeing a female Republican VP Nominee who I could respect. I would have been proud. But right from the start, she has been dishonest. After her very first speech, all anyone had to do was jump on the internet and read the evidence of the untruths she told. From that bridge thing, to the ebay plane thing. Everyday since then she has twisted and turned the truth inside out to fit her needs and make a better speech.

Gee, kinda sound like I am talkin about a Washington POLITICIAN, NOT an outsider, hockey mom.
(When did any of her kids ever play hockey- 10 years ago?)

12 10 2008
epic

Ok I’ve had my dig. Everybody is to stop feeding the troll now.

12 10 2008
1superdave

lighthouse what a fitting name for someone who loves darkness more than light. Why bother going to church at all. Maybe you should get some of wright’s sermons on tape God bless America No NO NO god d@$# America

12 10 2008
Lisa

Lets not go down this road. He is only here to incite anger, don’t give him the pleasure. We don’t want to be on the McCain/Palin train of spewing lies!

12 10 2008
2ebbandflow

1superdave (13:17:57) :
Why hate Sarah if they are going to loose anyway.
~~~~~~~
1superdave, if you are attempting to persuade please take a refresher course on correct word usage:
“loose” and “lose” have different meanings.
She may have loose morals or lose the elections. See the difference?
Also if you are speaking of a person (singular) use the singular he/she/it.
More than one person (plural): use the plural they.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Superdave, From your picture it seems that your time would be better spent at Jenny Craig.

12 10 2008
Lisa

We’re starting to sound like a bunch of angry republicans!

12 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!!

@Vlad

Okay, I’m laughing like a loony and people off my balcony know I’m alone up here. Those were hilarious, (esp. the Mae West)

Now, let’s get on this.
It doesn’t matter what happens next because once the Personnel investigation happens and her emails get opened, it will be all downhill from there.
IF somebody starts the petition to have her recalled NOW, it will turn many “undecided” eyes towards Alaska, looking for answers, and then, they will have them.

I say the recall of both Palin and Colberg should be on, now.
Don’t wait for the legislators, because they won’t, for fear of being tagged bi-partisan. I am sure that they are waiting for the people, WE, THE PEOPLE, to stand up and make that clear by initiating a recall.

Remember, Palin is quick as a wink to sue, lay charges, accuse, LIE and she has a long history of destruction.
It’s time to take her off the ticket.
Since she can’t be thrown off, we have to make sure that she is ‘chosen’ off, by the people.
Let’s do it.

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein ” That One” Cobra
=================================================
Great minds think alike. I was just about to make the same
comment. You took the words right off my fingers.
GIT ER’ DID

12 10 2008
NoCalGal

slightly OT as it is about Obama and not SP.. sorry if posted elsewhere I have not poured through all the threads- but here is a powerful video from Dave Stewart. REALLY good.

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVi4rUzf-0Q&feature=email

and it is MY American Prayer too…

12 10 2008
Shikago

Why bother going to church at all he rear his head, where does he fly? And then bailout for if then Maverick cause that said so.

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

LA – hugs back from San Anselmo

Murthee getting more press …. over at thedailybeast.com

Palin’s Pastor Problem
by Gail Sheehy (a very respected author of women’s issues)
& Deirdre English

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-10/palins-pastor-problem/

There’s a new video with new material there also.

Inch by inch it’s coming out ……… don’t think the MSM will be able to avoid it forever

12 10 2008
1superdave

So I.m Not the best speller or the fastest typer but ya’ll get the point. Why so shril. Does it make you feel better. All arab aren’t terorist but all the terorist that flew planes into the towers were arab.

12 10 2008
epic

Lisa (13:36:45) :
We’re starting to sound like a bunch of angry republicans!

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I just mark the spelling

12 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Susie in Jersey (08:30:28) :

Sorry to be so late in responding, I posted just before I signed off for the night.

The answer regarding Fromm and the necrophilic personality is yes it is understandable by the average person, but it’s not light reading. The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness is available at Amazon. Its about 500 pages will try to post a much shorter essay on another site.

One features of the necrophilic personality is a complete obliviousness to the feelings and thoughts of others, which adds interest to this Fox News item – “Palin off message on North Korea?” She appears to be completely out of touch with what McCain is saying, [http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/11/palin-off-message-on-north-korea/]

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Ok, folks. We all know what happens when we feed the trolls. The only reason they come here is to engage us. And that wastes all of our time. Ignore, ignore, ignore.
Do not let them engage you. Then, magically, they go away.

12 10 2008
Shikago

Since my forefathers fought to create this country we love so much , You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. 232 years! Congratulations on that.

12 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose "that one" Hussein hotrod palin

Out of respect for AKM’s wishes, please refuse to feed the trolls.

12 10 2008
kem hussein that one

avahome–i have recently decided that swwnbn may actually be the ‘cute’ out front person and it is actually her husband who RULES everything. some have called him ‘weak’ ish names but i have started paying more attention to him/his face and i started thinking that he was the one really ‘in charge’ and after reading that whole 263 pages, i didn’t change my mind at all. that is even scarier i think. they are just frightening all over the place. he is an uber control freak obviously and as co-VP, or ghost VP or whatever…what a mess!!

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

McCain didn’t know that his wife, Cindy, had invested in Keating companies and did so until 98, making quite a lot of money.
Palin didn’t know that her husband was actively campaigning to have Wooten fired.
If these two can’t keep up with what their spouses are doing, how in the HELL can they keep up with what is going on in Washington D.C.?

12 10 2008
Shikago

You John McCain and Sarah Palin are the FIRST candidates for our highest office to both have Ethics Violations on your record. 232 years! Congratulations on that.

12 10 2008
vena45

Wow, this narcissist woman is really unbelievable and pathetic! I feel for all Alaskans having her as their gov. I think Alaskans should protest to get this woman impeached! You guys don’t deserve another corrupted politician running your state. And you sure don’t deserve a gov like Palin thinking she can get away with abusing her power for any reason as long as it’s consider legal and withen law’s rights. This is sooooo unfair and sooooo unlawful that she’s only getting a slap on the wrist and nothing further.

12 10 2008
1superdave

More than one person (plural): use the plural they. McCain Palin for those in riolyda. I enjoy life and have nothing to hide. At least I took the time to put my own picture on for an icon. Ya’ll do know how to do that ; Don’t you?

12 10 2008
Lisa

As a Florida voter I ask all of you up there in the great state of Alaska to do something about her. I know a lot of people in the lower 48 that would be eternally grateful. Get that petition going and get it going now!

12 10 2008
antsy aka CommaLibertyP

Do people really writewith an accent?

12 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein)

Wow, what an interesting exchange was taking place while I was writing up that last post.

Well, my statement still stands. And guess what superdave? I’m a Christian too!

I claimed my Christianity on this site last week, and I’ve not felt any hatred for people who are different. Although there has been a great deal of censure for people whose words and actions belie what they claim to believe.

Conservative Christians have not cornered the market on love of country, and, darn it, I’m tired of hearing that they have. I’m tired of people using
God’s name to further their own, possibly very unGodly agenda. We should be more careful what we try to make God the patron for.

As I said Mudflatters, my last post still stands. You guys, and the 85,000 people at Mile High stadium in Denver supporting Barack Obama, and all the crowds at every other Democratic rally have shown a great deal more respect and love for their fellow humans than the McCain supporters have shown lately.

12 10 2008
Shikago

McCain/Palin the first candidates in our countries 232 year history to both have Ethics Violations on their records, congratulations on that!

Yea, finally…

12 10 2008
NMJ

strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.) (11:17:32) : Abraham Lincoln.

Thank you, strangelet; appreciate the clarification!

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

It’s a great day for juicy articles ……….

New at Hufpo: What Is Todd Palin’s Agenda?

Quote: “Does that mean that John McCain and Sarah Palin will give Todd Palin a substantive role in their administration if they are elected? It would appear so, by the McCain campaign’s own admission. Taylor Griffin, a spokesman for the McCain campaign, compared “the role Todd has played” to those of First Ladies Eleanor Roosevelt and Hillary Clinton, and one that “I don’t think is dissimilar from other spouses, and I think it’s an entirely appropriate role. And Todd will play an appropriate role as the spouse of the vice president.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/menachem-rosensaft/what-is-todd-palins-agend_b_133966.html

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Note to self – must try to be a better person – but, have spent ages trying to find a clear video of last night Philly Flyers game, and bingo!!! Shame for the poor kids but, hilarious all the same. Wait till right to the end, worth it

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/11/hockey-mom-palin-greeted_n_133911.html

12 10 2008
epic

Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein) (13:44:46) :
Wow, what an interesting exchange was taking place while I was writing up that last post.

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We were trying to say “Go away dickhead.” But it wasn’t taking😦

12 10 2008
Regi

wasn’t quite such a lovely moment in church when the pastor actually read aloud a letter he had gotten in an email saying that America will become a different place – (a much worse place) – if the Liberals win this election.

And I reiterate my point it’s time churches lose their tax exempt status. We have the Catholics openly stating it’s sin to vote prochoice. I’m sorry, I know they do a lot of charitable work but our country’s freedoms and common sense are at stake.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Sarah is in Ohio speaking..I just can’t stand to listen to her voice anymore. I hope some of you guys will report on what she says. I will be taking a break!

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

Failin is giving another of her lying contests in ohio.

she is able to lie so easily.. it’s sorta scary..

she’s yelling USA with the crowd, yet she wants to have alaska secceed?

what a traitor

12 10 2008
1superdave

Epic is it a dem flaw that has to run someone down because they don’t trust Your judgement.

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

New article at Hufpo: What Is Todd Palin’s Agenda?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/menachem-rosensaft/what-is-todd-palins-agend_b_133966.html

Tidbit:
“Does that mean that John McCain and Sarah Palin will give Todd Palin a substantive role in their administration if they are elected? It would appear so, by the McCain campaign’s own admission. Taylor Griffin, a spokesman for the McCain campaign, compared “the role Todd has played” to those of First Ladies Eleanor Roosevelt and Hillary Clinton, and one that “I don’t think is dissimilar from other spouses, and I think it’s an entirely appropriate role. And Todd will play an appropriate role as the spouse of the vice president.”

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

Troll may not last. Recent e-mail to AKM.

12 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter - Get the HouseGater

I am not in favor of violence, but i am convinced if someone chopped palins head off, it would shoot sparks from all the short circuits it would cause.

oh and she has her hair up again.. it’s where she keeps the transmitters and power supplies.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Regi where would dem canidates go the speak if not in black churches

12 10 2008
WitnessLA.com » Blog Archive » Sarah In Wonderland

[…] you read the transcript please remember, as the Alaskan blog Mudflats noted, the Legislative Council that triggered this Troopergate investigation is made up of TEN […]

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN (13:51:13) :

Troll may not last. Recent e-mail to AKM.
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Ditto!

12 10 2008
antsy aka CommaLibertyP

One thing I can say that’s positive about Palien is — she is positively trashing McSame’s campaign.

12 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Sarah is on tv in Ohio talking about how John McCain is going to end abuse of power…WTF? He’s going to turn the anger into action!

Then she just said “Parents, you know best how to educate your child, also…”
Just like she knows how to educate hers!
Whatever!

12 10 2008
1superdave

a ditto head

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Where is this “vote for mudflats” election taking place?
By the way, loved the Queen of Denial.

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

Thanks Deuce!

12 10 2008
Reality Check

Had dinner at my in-laws last night. They are staunch Republitards. My father-in-law usually ALWAYS wants to talk politics. Strangely enough, he told me last night he was sick of this election and wasn’t following it at all anymore, it was boring to him!

Bwaaahahahaha! It was priceless! I went on to tell him how much I was riveted by this election, most interesting one I have experienced in my lifetime.

Sarah Palin is a freaking joke. I cannot believe McCain chose this idiot to be his running mate! It really goes to his judgement, or complete lack thereof.

Go Obama!

12 10 2008
LaNon

Maddie (08:32:49) :

Call me extremely cynical after the last 8 years, but I don’t see SP’s political career as over if she & McCain lose (as fingers-crossed & barring vote rigging, they will).

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I agree with you Maddie, she’s just getting warmed up…

Where is Bristol? How is Bristol? Again, hoping she has a loving Hawaiian-style auntie to love her and hold her hand.

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

McCain considering new economic plan Reuters

https://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/through-the-looking-glass-with-sarah-palin/#comment-57762

Guess he’s starting to figure out, “It’s the economy, stupid!)

12 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

We were trying to say “Go away dickhead.” But it wasn’t taking😦

lmfao!!! See, we go and try to be PC and they just don’t get it… they “just don’t get it”… Seems I’ve heard that before…. from our candidates!

I just printed out a bunch of Obama/Biden signs for the windows in my house and one for my car. One of them says, simply, “HOPE” then in little letters Obama ’08. The other one I like says, “FIRED UP, READY TO GO”. Yes, that is my mantra now🙂

12 10 2008
Shikago

Remember tomorrow is Indigenous Peoples Day, the new holiday replacing Columbus Day. A day for us to reflect on all the great things our Native American brothers, sisters and ancestors gave us, the sacrifices they made so we might have a better life. And a special thanks to the WW2 Code Talkers. Afterall where would we be without corn and chocolate?

Obama/Biden/Great Spirit 08

12 10 2008
Sharon Hussein/CA

There’s a new article on ‘the husband’ over at at Hufpo (under politics) but every time I try to post it I get dumped so will try it this way. Verrrry right on.

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Palin will form the Bull**** Moose Party and run for president in 2012.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Hope left a place to look out while you drive

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

@ antsy aka CommaLibertyP (13:44:33) :

Do people really writewith an accent?

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in a word a-yup 😉

12 10 2008
1superdave

But you don’t believe that thanks giving thing do you.

12 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

Palin has mixed record as fiscal conservative

This spring, Palin signed an operating budget that authorized roughly $11 billion in spending — more than $16,000 for every man, woman and child in Alaska. That amounted to a 28 percent spending increase.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/palin_economics

12 10 2008
epic

1superdave (13:59:01) :
Hope left a place to look out while you drive

I had me one of them there ‘word generators’ once too

12 10 2008
Reality Check

Presidential elections are definitely cyclical.

Republicans have power and screww everything up.

Then Democrats take power and clean up all the messes the republitards left behind.

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

I have to admit that I a frequent user of “you bet”. When someone says, “Thanks for …” I commonly answer “You bet”. Because of SP I am on a negative reinforcement plan (rubber band on the wrist) and am trying to change my words to “No problem”. UGH! She makes me feel dirty.

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

Letterman will have McC on Thursday – maybe an interesting event.

Anyone in the snowzone today? Half our town is without power & we’ve been without heat for about 8 hrs now. (So far the house is in the low 60’s)

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Lisa (13:28:30) :

Superdave,

It always surprises me when someone refers to themselves as a christian in one breath and spreads vicious lies and hate with the next! What is a Christian exactly?
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12 10 2008
epic

I know, I’m so weak.

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

derDunkelRover (13:54:50) :
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Right pane. Label marked “bloggers choice award”. Click on
icon to be taken to the website. Follow instructions and use
your mudflats name to register. Make up the rest.

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

@enjay

I’m in the Bozeman area and have got no problems here. Spoke to some relatives in Eastern Montana and they were without power this morning.

Where are you?

12 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

National Debt = about $86,000 per person to pay back. WOW!!!!

12 10 2008
1superdave

Cheer up Ya’ll ought to be happy that McCain has such a horible running mate. Why beat her up if things are going so good for Abama

12 10 2008
Shikago

Sombody quick, que the “Dueling Banjos”

12 10 2008
Shikago

Dederdedelin

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

epic (14:02:52) :

I know, I’m so weak.
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I was just going to say, I was surprised you’re ‘casting pearls among swine’.

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

@ Blue in MT (14:04:20) :

I’m in the Bozeman area and have got no problems here. Spoke to some relatives in Eastern Montana and they were without power this morning.

Where are you?

______________________________________________________________

NE Montana — North of Glendive

12 10 2008
epic

He’s gonna start a sentence with ‘shoot’ soon. just you wait

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

I really don’t think Palin will be able to come back on the national scene as anything but a marginal wingnut candidate. But as I’ve said before, I do expect her to show up with her own show on Fox News – after she leaves office (one way or another) in Alaska! She fits their vibe perfectly. And all the right-wing pundits are so hot for her – I can’t imagine they wouldn’t want to give her a regular spot. Mark my words.

12 10 2008
1superdave

LISA it’s very simple. A follower of Christ. Of good not evil. Of light not darkness. Not just love your friends, but love your enemies.

12 10 2008
seachele99

SWWNBN just does not cease to amaze me. Her answers to the reporters were simply unbelievable and once again incoherent. And then I watched a clip from her current rally in OH. While I was glad she was not inciting the crowd into hatred and violence, I was surprised to hear the same speech she gave the first three weeks on the campaign trail repeated once again at the current rally. I was waiting to hear her repeat the “Thanks but no thanks” line. I realize she is extremely shallow in thoughts and ideas, but isn’t there at least one speech writer on the McCain campaign that could help her out? I seriously question the judgment of anyone who is still supporting that train wreck of a campaign.

12 10 2008
richie (middle name HUSSEIN)

palin is out in the deep end and she seems to be getting a pass from the msm on these really disturbing stories. oh well. i take some comfort in that a mccain victory is looking less and less likely. god help us all if palin is elected vp.

12 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Scalper Palin)

I just saw SP at a rally somewhere in Ohio – there is a marked difference – no more hate speech! Yay! McCain got the message and they have changed their ways. Thank goddess!

12 10 2008
epic

WE have punctuation!!!

12 10 2008
Shikago

“America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page on the policies of the past. Our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face. Our time to offer a new direction for the country we love.”

12 10 2008
gripper carom

Just ignore the idiot, “—–dave” mudflatters. I had an inlaw lurking on here (probably still is) and it’s caused all sorts of havoc for me. We are not speaking at the moment. Basically had to say stfu! Horrible things were said. “Sold soul in a Faustian bargain with the farthest reaches of the left & by 2010 the US will be a socialist nation” blah, blah blah B.S.!

12 10 2008
Cynthia, TX

What, if anything, did Todd Palin do as a member of the AIP? Did he actively support Alaskan independence, and if so, by what means? The Alaska Independence Party is affiliated with other extremist right wing political groups around the United States, including the Constitution Party (formerly the U.S. Taxpayers’ Party) which wants to “restore our government to its Constitutional limits and our law to its Biblical foundations.” Does he see himself as “an Alaskan, not an American”? What does he think about American institutions such as, say, the Supreme Court and Congress? Does he, like AIP founder Joe Vogler, consider the John Birch Society to be “too damn liberal”? Earlier this year, AIP Vice Chairman Dexter Carter urged party members to “infiltrate” the two major parties. Come again? Is that why Todd Palin is now a registered Republican?

We know that Sarah Palin has been “palling around” with Todd. We don’t know with whom Todd Palin has been, or for that matter may still be, “palling around.”

12 10 2008
1superdave

Shuck,s epic I wouldn’t say shoot. ya’ll might think I meant you harm.

12 10 2008
ds55

Todd Palin, is that you?? We’re not beating up on Sarah. We’re just tenderizing her, she’s a little too tough and stringy.

12 10 2008
Reality Check

SuperSIZE Dave….thanks for the laughs!

I love the fact that you and all the other republitards are shaking in their boots and have no substative talking points and have hence resorted to the Scary Black Man tactic to try and steal this election.

You guys are pathetic!

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Mudflats now #2!

12 10 2008
epic

Lol Dave. Actually a touch of wit there mate.

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

I wish people could see that an Obama/Biden win will help the majority of us. (referring to tax cutting plan). It doesn’t matter if we are black, yellow, red, Republican, Independent, Libertarian or Centrist. We are all Americans and the Obama/Biden ticket offers a plan that helps me & my Republican neighbor. We really are all in this together.
Play nice, Muddies!

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Point #2 on Palin — there are far more intelligent, successful, and un-wingnutty women that the Republican party will be able to put forth in future years. The party really will be completely reconstructed. We might not recognize it!

There will always be the wingnuts, sadly.

I would really love to be a fly on the wall of a meet-up of all the women (and men) who McCain COULD have selected this time out, who have been forced to give the party support line these past few weeks. One can only imagine the dire stress levels they have been under.

Tee hee.

12 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

@ “not so super” Dave.

Might I suggest you pick yourself up a really good dictionary (it’s a big book with words in it)

1) lose (rhymes with ‘use), not ‘loose’ (rhymes with goose)

2) “To me if ti (sic) wasn’t so scary it would be funny”. Dave, here you want to use the ‘subjunctive’ case of the verb, so “if it WEREN’T so scary”. It’s the lesson after present, past, future, and conditional tenses.

3) tonge is actually spelled ‘tongUe’ – I know, odd isn’t it?

4) Now I wasn’t going to point this one out as I thought it was a typo – unfortunately you have used it twice, so it is, sad to say, your bad education I’m afraid. “Unhinged” – no sneaky little ‘d’ in there before the ‘g’

5) All Caucasians aren’t genocidal, but all the genocidal people who killed the North American natives were Caucasian.

‘He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know.’ – Abraham Lincoln

‘He had delusions of adequacy.’ – Walter Kerr

Dave, I hate to break it to you, but your ‘brand’ of Christianity would not be recognized by JC himself, and I doubt you would tolerate his sitting beside you on a public bus as I believe he came from a part of the world where people were quite swarthy in complexion – not this blue-eyed blond of some European’s vivid imagination.

12 10 2008
antiAnti

Palin live on CNN

Cry from crowd – God bless you Sarah.

12 10 2008
gripper carom

Epic, you’re just egging the ass on. But spot on, you are! Must go feed my family, but keep of the great work, the rest of you! As for _____dave, just like my inlaw, just can’t admit the rest of the world does not view things in their sad, twisted little myopic way.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Gooolee. Griper I didn’t think you would notice. After all I did gragiate the twevf grade

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Thanks Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

12 10 2008
gripper carom

@Vlad,

“Dave, I hate to break it to you, but your ‘brand’ of Christianity would not be recognized by JC himself, and I doubt you would tolerate his sitting beside you on a public bus as I believe he came from a part of the world where people were quite swarthy in complexion – not this blue-eyed blond of some European’s vivid imagination.”

Before I go tend to the kidlets, thank you for your astute remarks!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Vlad the I’m HUSSEIN Palin

Thanks for the laugh!

12 10 2008
Blue in MT

@enjay

Good to know my relatives aren’t the only Obama supporters in that area. May you have heat and power very soon. Bundle up and stay safe!

12 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

Excellent News derDunkelRover

Course that does mean we will be seeing more of the “trolls”

Wikipedia: An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

12 10 2008
1superdave

Why Gipper I’m so narrow minded , heck I can look through a knot hole with both eyes.

12 10 2008
vena45

1 superdave, no one said anything about hating Sarah. I think majority of use agree that we hate the fact that she’s a liar and very vendictive and that’s not the type of person or behavior that should be allowed as leaders for our nation. Especially someone so corrupted as to think they can abuse their power of authority as a gov. I find it so sad that some of McCain/Palin supporters would still find her unlawful as an acception explaining that she had every right to use her power if someone like her bro-in-law was threatening the family. Still, that is no accuse for someone to think they can use and abuse their thrown in corruption. What will that say to our nation and our kids, that it’s ok to abuse power when you have the high authority seat in office? Corruption has always been the issue in this country and everywhere else. So when Palin claimed that she took on the “good ole boys” really shows hypocrisy on her part and the part on McCain and his supporters!

12 10 2008
Shikago

I understand that Todd, Sarah and the kids, bought a storefront in a strip mall in Vegas and are going to open up a wax museum – taxidermy shop – called Republic-Can-Orama. Featuring a long line of republican losers like, themselves.

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Let the fool stay, he’s funny, plus he might just learn something if he’s not totally closed to new information.

12 10 2008
disenchanted tore

Cynthia, TX (14:10:03) :
We know that Sarah Palin has been “palling around” with Todd. We don’t know with whom Todd Palin has been, or for that matter may still be, “palling around.”
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Sounds like the impossible task of tracking down the source of an STD! lol

12 10 2008
rjjrdq

She doesn’t feel she did anything wrong. She’s not denying what was in the report.

Folks, we got bigger fish to fry here. Two wars, a collapsing economy, $10 trillion dollars in debt, jobs being lost by the bushel…are either of these buffoons going to solve these problems? I’d like to think so, but…

12 10 2008
Trini

I saw SWWNBN speaking in Ohio. She was complaining about abuses of power. Good Grief!!!

12 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

@vena45

Actually, I think I do hate Sarah and am really enjoying it to no end!! lol

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Shikago (14:05:12) :

Sombody quick, que the “Dueling Banjos”
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12 10 2008
1superdave

Gippe I don’t know that it shows in the icon picture but My ancestry is from a country that borders the med. You don’t know a single thing about me but pretend to. That a lot like Abama.

12 10 2008
Teresa

here she goes again… SP pulling out the terrorist card, right now!
I wish SOMONE would SHUT HER UP!!!!!

12 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

This is why we all know better than to feed them, but I do understand being unable to resist at times. C’mon mudpuppies, we’re smarter (and much better spellers).

12 10 2008
Shikago

UK lady turning turtle Palinps (14:16:51) :

Let the fool stay, he’s funny…

I agree UK, I am beginning to like him. Infact Mr. Superdave, do you um, ever think about men, mmmmmmmm. You know it.

Sorry, couldn’t help myself. OK i’m off to the big box. Catcha Mudders later😉

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Cynthia, TX (14:10:03) :
We know that Sarah Palin has been “palling around” with Todd. We don’t know with whom Todd Palin has been, or for that matter may still be, “palling around.”

Greetings from Cowtown, fellow Texan!
I think that means Sarah has been sleeping with the enemy, not just palin’ around with them.

12 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Are her pants on fire yet?

12 10 2008
drchill

1superdave (13:43:47) :
…. At least I took the time to put my own picture on for an icon. Ya’ll do know how to do that ; Don’t you?

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You betcha !

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

rjjrdq (14:17:57) :

She doesn’t feel she did anything wrong. She’s not denying what was in the report.

Folks, we got bigger fish to fry here. Two wars, a collapsing economy, $10 trillion dollars in debt, jobs being lost by the bushel…are either of these buffoons going to solve these problems? I’d like to think so, but…
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Here’s my analysis of the world financial crisis financial situation. What are your ideas too?

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,1439.msg18099.html#msg18099

12 10 2008
1superdave

Vena 45 Tell me you wouldn’t mind your kids reading this blog. I guess chopping her head off is not the worst i’ve read but it doesn’t speak love.

12 10 2008
micky-t

I’m still afraid the McPalin/McPain ticket might pull a moose out of their fur cap and take the oval office. I’ve only visited Alaska once by driving my old bug up the dirt road, but it seems to me if they get in, that might be a better place to take off my boots. Or more to my old bones the Virgin Islands where I can take off my flip flops.

12 10 2008
Shikago

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (14:19:33) :

AAAHhhhh ha ha ha …. That was craptastic!

12 10 2008
LaNon

ds55 (11:10:45) :

MSNBC just said Sarah Palin is on her bus snaking her way up the Ohio river. They stopped at a Wal-Mart, she bought some diapers.
==================

Good God
She exploits them even in their absence.

How’s about she pick up some Kotex/tampex at the same time?

12 10 2008
keenobserver2

Wow…Just when I was wondering what application my pastor’s sermon today would have, then here comes 1superdave!

To 1superdave: …I am Christian and pro-Obama and being so is not an oxymoron. We do have the right just as you do to have a different point of view. That is what America is about. Before you call everyone a bigot read Matthew 7:1, then go over to 1John 1:8-9. Finally, think about what your views are as I do mine and read Matthew 7:21-24. We can agree to disagree without spewing out venom. Thank you.

12 10 2008
Frank aka. Lier Skunk Palin

I just logged on and there are 545 comments. So if someone said this already. I sorry.

[She is a legend of her own mind]

12 10 2008
epic

1superdave (14:19:40) :

Dave. look mate. She’s self absorbed, malicious thick, ignorant, incompetent,
and unprincipled.

Having her half a heartbeat from the Presidency is like having a vicious two year old toddling around in an explosives store.

The risk is too great to let up for a minute.

She’s real, and she’s scary.

If you want to discuss, stop being a troll and discuss.

12 10 2008
yogibear

“Have you read the whole report? (No response;…” It should be clear to everyone by now – Sarah Palin can’t read!

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

MSNBC just said Sarah Palin is on her bus snaking her way up the Ohio river.
A VERY apt comparision.

12 10 2008
sophie

it’s time for the media to stop encouraging her, as in asking her for interviews, covering her appearances — you know, just ignore her. she is yesterday’s news, at least until she’s impeached in Alaska. I speak as a retired media professional.
It would be perfectly acceptable to report briefly that she will appear, she has appeared, with the usual when, where, what, why. Fact-checking reports also a good idea, but letting this nitwit speak without the opportunity to ask follow-up questions is a real waste of space and time.
thank you again, Mudflats! you’re doing a great job.

12 10 2008
Michele

What’s particularly troublesome in the Cindy McCain case was that she wasn’t just investing in Keating’s shennanigans, she was also the “bookkeeper” for the development (apparently the world’s worst, since important basic documents disappeared under her care) scheme to keep outsiders away from what was going on. You’d think McCain might have noticed his wife had a job, wouldn’t you?

12 10 2008
1superdave

keenobserver my point exactly. On that we do agree. Now just read my post and allthe others , mostly before I showed up and I beg to ask, if you truly believe that why are you here?

12 10 2008
LaNon

Uncle Joe Mccarthy (11:37:59) :

i urge everyone to please go to andrew halcro’s site and voice your support

were it not for halcro, the malfeasance of the palin administration my never have come to light

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This is not the case for me…
A friend pointed me to mudflatters and this is where I have learned more about SP and participate in enjoying some very intelligent discussion among you all.

I come here to get my accurate on-the-ground information, and AKMudflats (and many of you) is my teacher!

12 10 2008
ds55

@ yogibear (14:27:25) : //“Have you read the whole report? (No response;…” It should be clear to everyone by now – Sarah Palin can’t read!//

That would explain a lot. We should buy her “Hooked on Phonics”.

12 10 2008
Randy

Thanks for all the good work, have enjoyed this site very much. Just read the transcript of the Palin interview with Alaska News and have to say one thing jumped out at me. I recalled seeing a documentary on Charles Manson which included several interviews of Manson by journalists. Palin’s responses have a striking resemblence to the responses made by Charles Manson when asked about his crimes, this is very scary. Numerous interviews with Manson are on U-Tube to verify my observation. Of note is her lack of any humility in this matter, I think she should be some what humbled or at least act like she is.

Was also wondering if the Legislative Commity has additional say as to her fate in this matter, as she actually called them a partisin circus, I guess this makes them, Republicans and Democrats on this commity a group of “Partisin Clowns”. I would think this is insulting enough to make her accountable for her actions, if that is possible. Charles manson still dosen’t think he has done anything wrong, either.

12 10 2008
pj

@ superdave
your definition of a Christian is a wee-bit off…they believe in forgiveness thru Christ and follow His teachings of forgiveness, humbleness, peace and the Spirit that resides in all of us.
I’m a little late to the conversation, but just wanted to update you on the news that a Christian is just a human being as “Christ-like” as possible.
P.S Glad you found this site…hope some of it’s to your liking

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

Dave, as Ghandi said, “I like your Christ, I don’t like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

1superdave (13:21:39) :

I am a conservative, a Christian, and a proud American. I love my country . I know ya’ll think that is sick. Get over it.
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1 superdave,

What does Jesus have to say about Real Estate Derivative Instruments and Credit Default Swaps? Let’s hear it?

Here is my analysis:

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,1439.msg18099.html#msg18099

What are your ideas on what we should do? What would Jesus do? I think you had better get right with the Lord and come up with some ideas for everyone who will be praying this week for guidance and help as they face rising disaster. A lot of people will be praying in the churches. Let’s have some analysis and insight from you on this site? Let’s hear it!

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

derDunkelRover (14:11:33) :

Mudflats now #2!
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ABSOLUTELY FAN F*^%!N TASTIC.

12 10 2008
1superdave

epic How come you know so much about Sarah and so little about obama

12 10 2008
JT

Lisa (13:36:45) :

We’re starting to sound like a bunch of angry republicans!

So true Lisa! I just pop’d in..read a few posts and responses to our new visitor, Dave.

Come on guys, be nicer to him than they were to me when I visited Hannity. Over there, they simply blocked me from posting, cause I called Rush L. scum for mocking a child.

Just cause we disagree with Dave, please, let’s not sound like those crazies over at Hannity!!
🙂

12 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

In fairness to ‘she who lacks all sincerity’, she is nice-looking (albeit with a slight eye stigmatism – hold it, Dave, I said stigmatism, not stigmata ! ), dresses smartly in expensive clothes, is a completely political animal, and does have street-smarts. She will undoubtedly survive given any situation.

Unfortunately, she seems to be a pathological liar. And her pretty veneer seems to encase a Leona Helmsley personality. There is a distinct lack of genuine warmth and she is missing an E.Q. of any value (emotional quotient). She really is the perfect foil for any ambitious Machiavelli. I get the distinct impression that she would sell her soul to achieve her political ambitions – all in all, a very astute street fighter, but a lousy friend.

12 10 2008
Canadian Neighbor

Day 2 of my posts not showing up!! Help — I’ve been in the black hole since Saturday morning!! Let me out!!!
I have modified my name taking out the ‘u’ in neighbour!!

Bloggers Choice Award Vote — Mudflats is at No. 3!!!

If you haven’t voted, here is a link for your convenience. Please remember that you can place a vote for each email address you have. If you have 3, you can register 3.

http://bloggerschoiceawards.com/blogs/show/56962

Here’s hoping this shows up!!!

12 10 2008
keenobserver2

To 1superdave: I have read the posts here as well as yours and my comments still stand. Read the scriptures I recommended and meditate on them. There are many on this blog and those who read this blog (among others) who are believers, but who do not hold your political view. It does make them wrong, it makes them people of a different opinion.

12 10 2008
JT

Of course…I haven’t read all his posts yet…so forgive me if my niceness was premature!🙂

12 10 2008
Deb

oh dear…I leave for an afternoon and come back to find you all feeding trolls!!! obviously the sign “do not feed the trolls” got knocked down, otherwise the troll would have moved on to forage elsewhere

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

I will make this simple

Sarah Palin is married to a man who was a member of a party who wanted to split away from the USA (for 7 years up until last year, convenient no?). Not just split away, but keep all the oil etc. in Alaska for themselves, after they took billions of pork away from the rest of America!

12 10 2008
SMR

My teen daughter often reads this blog, as does my husband. My daughter has often read comments on mainstream media articles and, like me, is appalled at the ignorance & intolerance expressed there by those who believe every talking point spewed by the M/P campaign, as well as those who cloak their racism in biblical quotation.

Time to go, 1superdave, you are not a positive contributor. I think there are some blogs that are a bit right of center and are better suited for your views.

12 10 2008
judi hussein that one Obama

In honor of Biden, for his inspiring speech in Scranton, I am making another donation tonight to Obama/Biden.
Also in honor of Mudflats #2 soon to be #1.

12 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

MSNBC just said Sarah Palin is on her bus snaking her way up the Ohio river. They stopped at a Wal-Mart, she bought some diapers.
____________

Is she an aggrieved astronaut facing a long drive?

12 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

I will make this simple

Sarah Palin is married to a man who was a member of a party who wanted to split away from the USA (for 7 years up until last year, convenient no?). Not just split away, but keep all the oil etc. in Alaska for themselves, after they took billions of pork away from the rest of America! This is the woman who John McCain chose for VP.

12 10 2008
John Henry

Don’t feed the trolls. They go and tell the friends about their new food source.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Hamlet’s mill You miss read Jesus He garantys the here after not the here and now. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death he is with me. I hope that clears it up fer yer.

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

We could discuss how the sex and drugs rock and rolled for McCain when he spilled his guts to the North Vietnamese. http://www.whatsdrivingyoucrazy.com/blog/wp-admin/index.php?page=stats

Or, how he put the lid on the POW and MIA investigations and sealed records.

Of course, then, there’s his record of “supporting” the troops and veterans.

Let’s not loose sight if the fact that Palin is not the only one who will not let law and loyalty stand in the way of ambition and avarice.

12 10 2008
LaNon

Vlad the I’m HUSSEIN Palin (14:36:41) :

MSNBC just said Sarah Palin is on her bus snaking her way up the Ohio river. They stopped at a Wal-Mart, she bought some diapers.
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Is she an aggrieved astronaut facing a long drive?
______________

Or….is she preggers again?

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

We had prayers today at my church for the safety of the candidates – because of all the hatred spewing that is truly fearful. Reality – but how sad is that?

12 10 2008
1superdave

Vlad She has a baby she didn’t kill just because He’s different.

12 10 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein " That One" Cobra

I’m off to bed, see you all in the morning. AKM seems to be taking a well-deserved day off. Please don’t feed the trolls while I’m away, I want to return to my nice, friendly, intelligent Mudflats over the day’s first cup of coffee…

12 10 2008
akmuckraker

New, uncongested Open Thread is up!

12 10 2008
derDunkelRover

Uh – Palin is notthe only one who will not let law and loyalty stand in the way of ambition and avarice.

12 10 2008
keenobserver2

To John Henry: Thanks for the reminder…my dander got riled…The feeding of stray trolls stops now!

12 10 2008
epic

1superdave (14:33:29) :
epic How come you know so much about Sarah and so little about obama

Because there seemed so much to know about her it felt right to investigate.
as the layers are peeled off I become more and more fascinated and appalled

Tell me what you know about Obama since I know so little.

You’ll need facts to convince me mind you, not just rants

12 10 2008
karen marie

IMPORTANT!

on tuesday, october 14 tune in to your local PBS station …

FRONTLINE Presents
The Choice 2008
Tuesday, October 14, 2008, from 9 to 11 P.M. ET on PBS

Encore broadcasts: Sunday, October 26, and Monday, November 3, 2008

Download free from iTunes beginning October 15, through the end of November.

It has been called one of the most historic presidential elections in our nation’s history–Barack Obama versus John McCain. It is a race that pits the iconoclast against the newcomer, the heroic prisoner of war against the first African American nominated by a major party. FRONTLINE’s critically acclaimed series The Choice returns this election season to examine the rich personal and political biographies of these two men in The Choice 2008, airing Tuesday, Oct. 14, 2008, from 9 to 11 P.M. ET on PBS (check local listings).

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http://underthelobsterscope.blogspot.com/

12 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Hey – if anyone has some spare change – please give a few to Al Franken – running for the senate in Minnesota. His numbers are not looking too good right now, according to fivethirtyeight.com. We are going to need his intelligence and wit as our country tries to work its way out of the messes we currently are in.

http://www.alfranken.com/

12 10 2008
1superdave

Keenobsever Being on the blog doesn’t make one evil, nor does supporting Obama. But honestly I wouldn’t want your kids reading some, some! of the post ed comments here. That’s all.

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

UK lady turning turtle Palinps (14:35:43) :

I will make this simple

Sarah Palin is married to a man who was a member of a party who wanted to split away from the USA (for 7 years up until last year, convenient no?). Not just split away, but keep all the oil etc. in Alaska for themselves, after they took billions of pork away from the rest of America!
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And again my bumper sticker:

“ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY: REPUBLICAN VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SARAH PALIN SLEPT WITH A TERRORIST AT LEAST FOUR (cross out the four) FIVE TIMES”

12 10 2008
Tom from PA

For those who have not read this yet, The Economist, a highly respected international newspaper has been conducting its own poll worldwide in our election. They have created their own electoral college, allocating the slots according to population I suppose. There has been nearly 15,000 votes so far and Obama has about 81% of the popular votes across all lines, nationalities etc.

http://www.theworldwantsobama.org/2008/09/economist-readers-overwhelming-endorse.html

12 10 2008
pj

@derDunkelRover
you’re right…
It’s sad when the Iraq Afganistan Veterans of America grade McCain with a “D” regarding his congressional record…and they are non-partisan.
I know he’s not to popular with many of our Disabled American Veterans (DAV) here in Nebraska; unfortunately we’ll still be mainly red.

12 10 2008
JT

1superdave (14:40:05) :

Vlad She has a baby she didn’t kill just because He’s different.

Ok…I do have to respond to this.

Dave, I have never once read on this site ANYONE speaking ill of Palin for the decision to have Trig. NEVER.

To speak say hateful things about a woman’s most personal decision is not appropriate.

12 10 2008
Ennealogic aka PumpBustHussein

My new signature shall be:

I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t. Sarah Palin

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (14:19:33) :

Shikago (14:05:12) :

Sombody quick, que the “Dueling Banjos
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I betcha stuperdave can relate to that video.

12 10 2008
karen marie

wow! look at this, folks!

there’s an “obama tax cut calculator” where you can stick in your income and dependents and find out how much of a tax break you would get under obama versus mccain.

http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

12 10 2008
ds55

Peek-a-Boo! I see you: http://wordpress.com/tag/1superdave/

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

1superdave (14:38:34) :

Hamlet’s mill You miss read Jesus He garantys the here after not the here and now. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death he is with me. I hope that clears it up fer yer.
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You better read your Bible at a deeper level. You can start with the Ten Commandments. And Jesus used lots of analogies about return on investment in His parables.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Epic – it seem that’s what all the fuss is about. First he said he didn’t have the experience needed to be president. His words. A couple months latter he starts his run. Little is known about him since he’s never done anything or ran anything, ie a company. Then that only leave associations, and those mostly include people who hate America. What do you know. Just the facts mam!

12 10 2008
ds55

From 1superdave’s weblog: http://1superdave.wordpress.com/about/
Christian conservative , that grew up as a farmer, that later turned high tech technician, working on John Deere industrial equipment. I love America and am not satisfied to just sit by and watch a Godless bunch of America haters run our country in the ground. I know a little about everything and a lot about somethings. I keep up with current events because I don’t watch a lot of movies or tv shows because all the America hating actors that said they would move if George Bush won, didn’t move. I just can’t stand to watch them. Besides they proved they are liars because they said they would move and didn’t. The old saying goes don’t let the door hit you. Add the Willson sisters of heart to that list. Seems they don’t like Sara Palin using the song Barracuda. How about that shut up and sing or act or fill in the black. My wife says I don’t have to let that bother me , but I don’t . I just don’t have to watch them either. So I listen to rush and Sean on the radio. Fox News at night. Shepard Smith is almost to liberal and O’Riley; He must have awful barb-wire burns between his leg. His fence stradling and all. That prety much sums me up! Thanks for dropping by. Post a coment if you like. I am a big boy , so you can even post if you disagree. That is what debate is supposed to be after all!

12 10 2008
rjjrdq

Hey Mudflats,
I couldn’t post to that forum. This is what I thought at the time…

12 10 2008
1superdave

Hamlet the ten comandments , why we can’t be looking at them can we? How about though shall not kill. Fifty million people never saw the light of day, some did but got left for dead . Wouldn’t want to undo a choice would we.

12 10 2008
1superdave

DS55 thanks for the info and the visit Thankyou!

12 10 2008
karen marie

sarah palin wants to knock down the wall between church and state:

An Associated Press review of the Republican vice presidential candidate’s record as Wasilla mayor and Alaska governor reveals her use of elected office to promote religious causes, sometimes at taxpayer expense and in ways that blur the line between church and state. The U.S. Constitution provides for the separation of church and state.

Since she took state office in late 2006, the governor and her family have spent more than $13,000 in taxpayer funds to attend at least 10 religious events and meetings with Christian pastors, including Franklin Graham, the son of evangelical preacher Billy Graham, records show.

read the rest of the story here

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/11/politics/main4515419.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories

12 10 2008
ds55

Shine a light on them and they scatter.

12 10 2008
1superdave

Duece2 The mountain cussins are on your side.do da do do do dodo dodo do

12 10 2008
1superdave

Karen she even had the foresight to ban books before they were even writin.

12 10 2008
Tom from PA

I was having a discussion with the friends of my son who visited a local McCain/Palin rally (because it was a happening and free I’m told). Tell me if I went too far out on the limb when I told them that an Obama presidency has the POTENTIAL to rank among the all-time greats. I said this for several reasons:
1.)Most of our greatest presidents followed our worst eg Buchanan-Lincoln, Hoover-Roosevelt. The country was presented to each of them in some sort of turnoil. The current times are no different.
2.)By his very election, he will create history. He will become the most visible, positive role model for any African-American child, a symbol for what hard work, perseverance and good education can bring. His election may prove to be in the long run at least the equivalent to Martin Luther King in bridging the racial divide.
3.) His election will immediately re-establish the stature of the US in the eyes of the world. There is no denying that the world wants this and needs it.
4.) His calm, cool approach may go a long way to quelling international panic in these world markets. Among all the negative press, there are still some real positives to the economy lately. Oil prices have been cut nearly in half. That will help feed pocketbooks, keep inflation down. Interest rates have been lowered again which will also add to the bottom lines of the healthy companies and the dollar has gotten stronger. The message just needs to get out there. Obama fits that presidential/statesmenlike role much as Ronald Reagan did during his presidency.
So am I far off-base in my estimation?

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

1superdave (14:54:01) :

Hamlet the ten comandments , why we can’t be looking at them can we? How about though shall not kill. Fifty million people never saw the light of day, some did but got left for dead . Wouldn’t want to undo a choice would we.
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If you are completely pro life (which I can understand) why aren’t you also anti-war too to be consistent? Preach saving life before birth. Preaching killing life after birth. The fundamentalist Christians seem to be quick on using nuclear weapons in the Middle East too. Maybe a little too quick on the trigger to launch the Day of the Flying Nails to carry out the Crucifixion of Man. Maybe someone should be rethinking the allegories in the ancient scriptures? Maybe think on a deeper, more cinematic, level down at Reverend Billy Bob University?

Have you, yourself, ever served in the Armed Forces of the United States? I have. Why aren’t you in the front line in Iraq AND Afghanistan right now? Do two tours? My oldest sister is in Afghanistan right now on the ground at the highest level and has been there for seven years in all this. She’ll be glad to get you into the Infidel zone on the frontier with Pakistan as an international volunteer. Just tell her where to send your body.

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Thanks ds55

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Tom from PA (15:05:10) :

You analysis is spot on. This is the historic situation.

BTW, are you in W.PA.? We are having our first indoor mini-MudStock get together gathering this coming Friday night in Pittsburgh, PA. If you are interested in attending, please contact me at HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com.

I always enjoy your posts very much!

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

trolls…terrible twos….what do they have in common?

When my oldest flung herself on the floor and pitched her first temper tantrum, I simply turned my back and walked out of the room. As soon as she realized she had no audience, her screeching abruptly stopped.

12 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Palin’s AIP pals sound more far more like pals than Obama and Ayers.

“Oct. 10, 2008 PALMER, Alaska — On the afternoon of Sept. 24 in downtown Palmer, Alaska, as the sun began to sink behind the snowcapped mountains that flank the picturesque Mat-Su Valley, 51-year-old Mark Chryson sat for an hour on a park bench, reveling in tales of his days as chairman of the Alaska Independence Party. . . Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin . . . During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla . . . they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory. Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution’s language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring . . . “Every time I showed up her door was open,” said Chryson. “And that policy continued when she became governor.”

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

12 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

1superdave (15:17:37) :

War is hell
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On that we can both agree and I will leave it there. I will pray for the safety of your sons and daughters. You can pray for the safety of my sister and brother-in-law.

And we can both pray for the peace of the world and then act to bring that to pass.

12 10 2008
Tom from PA

Eastern PA here..but I will let my son know who is going to college in Pittsburgh. He has already sent for his absentee ballot and knows who is paying his tuition🙂.

12 10 2008
effulgent7

Anyone who can’t muster more of a formal/appropriate acknowledgement than “OK cool,” has no business running for any kind of office in this country!

12 10 2008
liberalspirit

Thanks for posting this – it’s so important to bring forward the facts about Governor Palin and her view of the world. We can’t make informed decisions based on a Saturday Night Live skit or her affinity for “Joe Six-Pack” and hockey moms. But an elected official who clearly refuses to acknowledge responsibility for unethical behavior, that we can use to inform our votes.

12 10 2008
G. Stone

Do psychiatrist make house calls? Send one to her hotel room.

Honest. She’s going to be taken out of the governor’s office in a straight jacket.

This is way beyond political spin, or any other tactic. I’ve been either a reporter or a PR person for the better part of 30 years. Never have I encountered, or read of someone who, when found guilty, declares they were found innocent.

They might protest that they are innocent They might try to confuse the issue. But to deny something that is right before everyone in black and white – this is a sick person.

I guess we should have seen it when she turned the unwanted pregnancy of her unmarried teenager into a political positive because the child wasn’t having an abortion. She got away with that – but this transcript needs a lot more attention. I’d love to hear the audio. And I hope it makes the MSM.

12 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

Just voted for mudflats a gain. Keep those votes comin’
in boys and girls. AKM needs everyone and de zervs’
em’ all.

12 10 2008
avahome

kem hussein that one

Until we hear Todd speak…..we’re not going to find out too much about him.

For now he appears to be her shadow. The great importance he appears to have from the Troopergate report…and the fact that he did the stalkingof Trooper Wooten..Todd seems to have a lot of time on his hands. Seems Sarah couldn’t have stopped him even if she wanted to.

What is up with the moose that was shot? How many times does Todd need to be told that all persons will have to be implicated if he pushes that issue…yet the subject continually appears coming from his lips according to the report.

12 10 2008
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12 10 2008
Desmond Williams

The sad part is how many people are just as much in denial and take anything that their favorite candidate says as fact. let me correct that, they must know that these are not facts, merely talking points for their own arguments.

12 10 2008
visitor

You betcha, she’s a fruitcake who’s pallin’ around with loony toons McCain.

12 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

somebody let me know when you’ve finished entertaining superdave

12 10 2008
John Nail

upnorth MN aka hose “that one” Hussein hotrod palin

Hose? Are you from Minneapolis? The Hose who knew Patty Clancy?

12 10 2008
Stanley Krute

On the Obama HQ Blog, we’ve come up with a nice way to handle trolls:

R.I.D.

Renounce. Ignore. Donate.

We don’t engage. We use their energy to raise money for the campaign.

We are also able to report their posts so that they are removed.

It works quite well. Considering the size and importance of the target, the HQ Blog is a pretty troll-free environment.

— stan

12 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

Wow. I, too, spent most of the day out of the house and came back to find an hour’s worth of comments to get through.

I just have a couple of comments:
@ asiangrrl–lots of people of a paler color agree with John Lewis, too! I know I do…

and an aside–Chris Matthews this morning was blathering about the possibilitiy that something Obama said about McCain (lurching and erratic were the words, I think) was “code” to say that he is old?
NEWS FLASH!!!! McCain IS old! 72 is old, any way you spin it. FACT: “old” does not equal incompetence or incapacity or infirm and there is nothing wrong with saying the man is OLD!! I aspire to be fairly old myself, someday–and not that far off!
And IMHO, no relation whatsoever to Obama’s comments, I also DO think the old man is showing alarming signs of faulty judgment and erratic behavior and that’s in addition to the outright lies and selling of his soul. Same goes for the running mate, who is NOT old. So don’t go screaming agism–2 different issues here, Chris.

12 10 2008
Catherine Howard

Mike Wooten should consider filing charges against Todd and Sarah for Stalking, Harrasment, Defamation of Character, Slander, etc…
Wooten might be a rogue cop himself, but nobody deserves the treatment he got from the Palin/Heath clan.
Sarah is a true Sociopath, and we gave her the power to rule over us. As I see it, there are more of us than there are of them and we need to dump Sarah and the Shadow, and appoint Andrew Halcro as our leader.
If Andy doesn’t want the job, I’ll take it. I have a college degree, I won’t end my sentences with prepositions, I promise not to wink, my husband has a real job and doesn’t take tax deductions for his hobbies, I’ll answer reporters questions, AND I’ll have an open mike night for those who want to ask me questions about my administration. Some of you might have to send me your resumes, because there will be a lot of openings available once Sarah has been sacked!

12 10 2008
12 10 2008
Marilyn in Connecticut AKA Hose Hotrod Palin

I listened to Sarah’s interview and was, like everyone, shocked. What she is doing is gaslighting. In the movie (GasLight) with Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer, the latter tried to drive his wife crazy by telling her that everything she perceived was wrong. The sky is blue. No, dear, it’s black, are you okay? After a while she went insane. Rove must have watched that movie and decided to use it as the basis for his political tactics. After listening to Palin don’t you go back and reread the report thinking, did I miss something? Did I read that incorrectly? That’s gaslighting – you start to doubt yourself. Nasty, nasty stuff.

12 10 2008
SA

We need a media black out on McCain/Palin until they make her do real interviews. I am sick of her holier than thou crap about “We need to know the real Barack Obama”. Give me a break, how about we get to know you now Sarah. So far what we do know is pretty scary.

Obama/Biden 08

12 10 2008
carl

Okay, I have been trolling around this website and I’m finally going to say something:
my husband and i love the beauty of Alaska. Last time we were there, we bought shirts, sweatshirts and fleece jackets with Alaska written on them. We are now embarrassed to wear them because we don’t want to have any affiliation with Sarah Palin. We don’t want to wear these items and have someone think that we are proud of Palin. We are disgusted by her and hope that she and McCain get defeated next month. We hope that Alaskans don’t have to put up with her much longer either. We have a cruise to Alaska scheduled next month and we really don’t want to cancel.

12 10 2008
jada

This is Carly’s daughter posting: I echo my mom’s sentiments that I feel ashamed to wear my Alaska sweatshirt. Palin is a HUGE joke here in California. We are sad because we take a trip up there every year. I really want to go on our cruise next year (not month like my mom said).

12 10 2008
drillbaby

drill palin, not alaska

keep hockey moms out of the ANWR!

12 10 2008
rachelbirds

Late to the party,
here’s a good read on Salon —
[http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/11/sarah_palin_alaska/index.html]
what a piece of work.

http://www.thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com

12 10 2008
rachelbirds

whoops, link didn’t work

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/11/sarah_palin_alaska/index.html

if this doesn’t work, the end is sarah_palin_alaska/index.html

12 10 2008
chop meth p aka maya

Carl(y), Jada, you shouldn’t feel ashamed to wear your Alaska sweatshirts. Sarah Palin ISN’T Alaska. But this Mudflat site sure is. And there’s nothing embarrassing about this, is there?
Now, if you had stuff from Arizona, well……..

12 10 2008
Catherine Howard

To Jada and Carly,

I feel for you guys. A dear friend of mine just returned from Las Vegas. When asked where she was from, she and her husband answered, Alaska. They finally resorted to lying by telling people they were from New York. The catty remarks and sneers were too much for them. They don’t like Sarah, but, by golly, they were on vacation and they weren’t going to have it ruined by Sarah!

Our state is beautiful and worth visiting. Sarah is a tiny part of that, and really insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Wear your Alaskana with pride, get on that ship, and enjoy the scenery. By the time you get here, Someone new will be in office, and Alaska Pride will be back!

12 10 2008
Catherine Howard

Did anyone catch that remark Monegan made to Todd about the illegal moose taking episode? Yup, Yup, Molly, Todd, Mike, Chuck, Sarah and the rest of the Palin-Heath-Wooten clan could all be held culpable for the crime. Sarah changes “Troopergate” into “Tasergate”. Let’s call it “Illegal Moose Harvest Gate” and ask that all who were involved in the shooting/carving/eating of the moose be charged with a crime!

12 10 2008
Jane in WIsconsin

What’s disturbing is the lack of mainstream media coverage. They seem to dismiss it (with the exception of MSNBC and possibly the New York Times). Such bias is not acceptable and Americans need to boycott and put them out of business. They should not be allowed to manipulate votes by withholding/distorting the truth.

12 10 2008
Laura

What the hell?

12 10 2008
plaidlemur

I’m glad she’s glad to lie. What the heck does she think she’s getting away with by blatantly misrepresenting the findings that state so very clearly her guilt? It’s surreal. She’s surreal. This whole Republican campaign season is surreal.

George Orwell best described this behavior–doublespeak.

12 10 2008
proudgranny

To Super Dave: Welcome aboard.

For an education about Alaska & Sarah you have come to the right place.

12 10 2008
Jon, St. Louis, MO

One followup I would like to see is when the apologists (like the GOP legislator on the ADN website) say, well, we can’t fault Todd or Sarah for trying to protect their family. (This is the fallback position, since it implicitly admits they tried to get Wooten fired.)

What nobody ever seems to ask is, how does getting him fired protect them? Presumably, he has to turn in his service revolver, but something tells me Wooten owns more than one gun. And the Palins have never claimed he was going to use his status as a trooper to somehow “get them.” And keep in mind, if he gets fired, he presumably will have trouble making his support payments.

What this shows is that the real reason is simply pure spite–they wanted to hurt him. I wish people would point that out more.

12 10 2008
nabrum

23 days and you get her back! My wife grew up in Palmer and I have relatives also in Wasilla. None of them wants her back.

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Why can’t Republicans protest against the Democratic platform wihout the racism? McCain is a coward. He should have already dismissed Palin as his running mate. Now Sarah Palin has her fans dressing up doll monkeys with Obama headbands and calling these stuffed animals “Hussein.” find link:
http://gawker.com/5062352/yes-sarah-palin-your-fans-are-racists
note to john mccain: “if you have an ounce of honor left in you, you will put Country First and end to the ugly, vile, violent attacks against the true hero in this campaign Barack Obama by demanding Sarah Palin’s resignation and then conceding the election.” john lewis is right. mccain’s campaign has resurrected the ghost of george wallace.

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Is there still doubt in anyone’s minds that Sarah Palin is inciting her supporters to vile, vicious, violent racist attacks on Barack Obama?

Hours before Sarah Palin showed up to get BOOED at the Flyers opener in Philadelphia, she hosted a rally in Johnstown, PA. And the citizen at left showed up with a stuffed monkey with an Obama sticker on its head. “This is little Hussein,” he boasted smugly to cameras. Surely the other McCain/Palin supporters admonished him in the no uncertain terms, yes? No. They giggled and clapped. Watch after the jump.

Note to John mccain: “if you have an ounce of honor left in your body you will dismiss Sarah Palin as your running mate and then concede the election.” john lewis was right. john mccain’s campaign has resurrected the ghost of george wallace.

12 10 2008
Shikago

Palin Makes Troopergate Assertions that Are Flatly False (ABC News Senior National Correspondent Jake Tapper)

Oh yea, Palin Onion Soup is simmerin.

I just read the above 100 posts to catch up. I will add only that this kind of narcissistic psychopath is so terrifying. I couldn’t even bring myself to watch the facist link last night in the Onion comments.

And I think she has brought great harm to the Alaska brand. I have been in advertising and small business pr for a long time, just when you think things couldn’t get any worse she is telling bold face lies TO THE WORLD.

Unreal… No like Plaidlemur said “surreal”

12 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Mudflats, the world is listening to you now. Would you be so kind as to write a blog regarding all of the racist acts, activities and coded language of Sarah Palin? The cable media is putting out bits and pieces of this stuff, but we need a true Palin critic to publish the true and complete story of Sarah Palin the racist. There is way too much at stake for Sarah Palin’s “George Wallace campaign tactics” to take over this presidential race without a cohesive critique of her comprehensive racism. The World Needs To Know what an evil and perverse person Sarah Palin really is.

12 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

ds55 (14:49:30) :

Thanks,ds55. I came back late and was wondering about this persistent troll and why he might stay. You really rock!

12 10 2008
Shikago

I am just going to throw this up here. The ONLY way to get the media to put a lid on their never ending coverage of McPalin is to hit the sponsors wallets through boycott. Believe me the media is not happy with a landslide ever. They loved the primary fight because they were swimming in cash. Close race = viewers. If only we could somehow, collectively come up with some ideas, imagine if every BO supporter tomorrow boycotted BP for supporting networks that are “playin” us, THAT would have an impact. Just thinkin out loud here.

Another thing that bugs me, team McPalin don’t even have the nerve to sit in front of Ben Franklin’s printing press and answer our nation’s questions. Palin is AFRAID of our free press even in Peoria! Thats more scaryness for ya.

12 10 2008
John Mashey

AKM correctly chose Alice Through The Looking Glass,but one can get more precise. Chapter VI covers Humpty Dumpty, whose approach to meaningful conversation in that whole Chapter seems familiar. Here’s the especially relevant passage:

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.’

‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.’

‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master—that’s all.'”

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. ‘They’ve a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they’re the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That’s what I say!’

‘Would you tell me, please,’ said Alice ‘what that means?’

‘Now you talk like a reasonable child,’ said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. ‘I meant by “impenetrability” that we’ve had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you’d mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don’t mean to stop here all the rest of your life.’

‘That’s a great deal to make one word mean,’ Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

‘When I make a word do a lot of work like that,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘I always pay it extra.’

‘Oh!’ said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.

‘Ah, you should see ’em come round me of a Saturday night,’ Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side: ‘for to get their wages, you know.’
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Of course, H D’s eventual fate, involving futile efforts by king’s men and horses is well-known. King’s lawyers, maybe?

12 10 2008
chicago

Going on youtube and searching for Palin Protest it is amazing to see how many people are coming out almost everywhere she goes to voice their displeasure with her and McCain. The only good thing about her is that she’s made the idea of voting republican this year so idiotic and scary that people who wouldn’t be getting involved are going out and doing what they can to help Obama. We can’t allow a person with such disrespect for the law be in charge of our lives. I can’t wait to read on here about the day she is sent back to Alaska for good.

12 10 2008
JB in WV

TOM FROM PA 15:05:10
Love the way you think!!!!!

12 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@Proud Community OrganizerWA (10:15:40) :

You know having become so much more politically aware this presidential election, I don’t think I can willingly step inside another church. …

Hey, you should try out the Episcopal Church. We’re really accepting (at least most places) and don’t preach politics.

By the way, I just have to say, I’m liberal/progressive and I’m a Christian. From a shirt I saw on cafepress.com, “Christian Democrats Practice What They Preach.”

12 10 2008
trebuchet5684

Christian Democrat is an oxymoron. When it comes right down to it, they always stand for the Democrat platform in opposition to the Bible.

12 10 2008
gfish

Palin is not clueless. What she’s doing is a doubletalk trick that all politicians use. They start off with a known and understood premise, they twist it and bend it to say whatever they want it to say. You could have a report out there which says that Senator Jane Smith kicked little puppies for fun on the steps of the Capitol building. In her press conference she would say:

“Why yes, there have been issues with puppies being kicked on the Capitol steps. We will find those who are responsible because as we can see in the report the problem exists and no one knows who’s kicking the puppies.”

What Palin’s denial really indicates is how much she and McCain rely on partisan conflict and their fans’ assumption that if the claim that Democrats said something, it’s automatically a lie. The fact that she’s doing it in such a clumsy way speaks to her inexperience.

12 10 2008
mrsmarshall

When she was first announced and all the brouhaha surrounding her family surfaced, I was so sure she would graciously bow out and go home, allowing McCain to bring in Lieberman while also showing that he was willing to nominate a very conservative female. He’d get good points for the nomination, but then get the guy he really wanted.

But now that it’s obvious they actually WANTED her, I’m just aghast at the lack of forethought and sound judgement that abounds in that campaign administration. There’s “maverick” and then there’s “rogue”… I think she’s the latter and thank god they’re not going to win. She’s got a dangerous tendency toward Bushism – do what she wants, pretend it’s okay, and ignore anyone who says it’s not.

Great post!

12 10 2008
mrsmarshall

Trebuchet – your comment is ignorant.

The Religious Right have taken over the Republican party and has poisoned simple people such as yourself in an effort to push their own version of morality on the diverse citizens of this great country. JC knew that faith in God and salvation did not require affiliation with any particular political party – and he actually was accepting of ALL people. Perhaps you need to go back to the Bible and do a little soul-searching. Oh but wait – now that you’re saved I guess you don’t have to ask for forgiveness. Yeah, that’s a great deal you have going there. Very handy.

12 10 2008
J IN IDAHO

AMAZING, SIMPLY AMAZING-I SUPPOSE IT GOES TO THE OLD ADAGE,” IF YOU CAN’T DAZZLE ‘EM WITH BRILLIANCE, DAZZLE ‘EM WITH BULL S@#T”. THE VILLAGE IDIOT IS DIRTY, ALWAYS HAS BEEN! WONDER WHAT THE EX GOV. IS GOING TO DO FOR WORK WHEN SHE GETS HOME? SELL PERIODICALS? ;0)

12 10 2008
Political Republican Opinion

And yet none of you see anything wrong with a presidential candidate sitting in a racist church, listening to a preacher bad-mouth his country. What’s worse, is that you see nothing wrong with Obama exposing his impressionable children to this divisive dialog, either.

You see nothing wrong with him getting a special “wink-wink” $300,00 discount deal on a house from an convicted felon who according to the Chicago Sun-Times, happens to be Obama’s top political fund-raiser, contributing and raising tens of thousands of dollars for Barack Obama’s campaigns. And, of course, you see nothing wrong with Obama launching his political career from the home of a well-known American terrorist.

For some reason, you people think that Barack Obama actually cares about you. You actually think that he is going to make life better for the middle class. I bet less than one out of twenty of you even know how much Obama’s middle class tax break is. (Hint #1: it’s far less than the economic stimulus package that did nothing to substantially affect the lives of middle class America or the economy. Hint #2: it’s almost enough to get “up to” a cup-and-a-half of coffee at Starbucks each week or “up to” three cups per family).

Instead, you focus all of your efforts on attacking Sarah Palin instead of the Republican presidential candidate. If she was an abortion-loving, gun-hating, short-haired, unsightly mess, you’d probably all be backing her in droves!

12 10 2008
Observer aka Rankle Hiway

So, I read the report.

There are some nuggets there.

For example:

There is a stunning conclusion drawn by Monegan that the Department of Public Safety would never get the full funding to do its job as long as Trooper Wooten was still employed. I haven’t seen that item mentioned yet, but it is there! In other words Palin put the safety of the entire population of Alaska at potential risk trying to get her revenge.

Another part that had me laughing out loud was the explanation to Todd (I think it was by Monegan, but maybe someone else) that Wooten could not be arrested for shooting the moose illegally unless Palin’s sister was also arrested. She owned the moose tag and was sitting in the boat with Wooten (she had declined to take the shot herself). It’s illegal to give your moose tag to another person. Troopers would also have to arrest Palin’s father, who butchered the moose, and all who shared in it’s meat, which included Sarah and Todd!

I guess that’s when the Palin family stopped bringing up Wooten’s “crime” of “poaching” the moose.

You know, many months ago all I wanted was to elect Barak Obama. I never thought I would learn so much about Alaska.

(Sigh)

12 10 2008
lis60

The woman clearly has something seriously wrong with her. It is very disturbing. I can’t decide if she is just completely full of it OR if she has a serious mental illness. It doesn’t matter because either way she is a dangerous person who should not be in any position of political power. Anyone who blurs personal and political, church and state, and treats mentors and people who have supported her like crap, is a scary person…….. I could not believe she actually had the NERVE to announce today that she was cleared of anything unethical. The woman is NUTS or this is master spin- and many people will just hear “I WAS CLEARED” without reading the report. That is what she and the McCain campaign hope for and what this is , is lying. It is pure evil is what it is. If she would have said something like “I realize I made some mistakes,” if she had showed ONE OUNCE of humility, perhaps she could be viewed as human. But this?? It is beyond sick………

12 10 2008