Pitbull’s Nose Whacked With Rolled-up Newspaper.

11 10 2008

Joe Biden, in comments at an outdoor rally in Missouri, has whacked Palin the pit bull in the nose with the proverbial rolled-up newspaper.

Joe Biden Thursday night told Sarah Palin not to lecture him on patriotism, after weeks of attacks mocking him for his statement the wealthy should be patriotic and pay higher taxes because not enough has been asked of them.

“Sarah Palin had great fun saying Joe Biden thinks paying taxes is patriotic. Well, let me tell you what Joe Biden thinks,” the Delaware senator said at an outdoor rally. “Joe Biden thinks that anybody who takes millions of dollars offshore to avoid paying their fair share is unpatriotic.” “That is not patriotic and it will stop, it will stop in an Obama-Biden administration! Enough! I’ve had it up to here! Don’t lecture me on patriotism,” shouted Biden, getting drowned out by the applause of his supporters.

As much as Barack Obama’s calm, cool, collected presence has served him well in this election, every once in a while it feels good to have a nice Biden counter-punch.  He makes us feel like Democrats have spines.

Biden also tackled head on the fact that while McCain and Palin have both been openly questioning Obama’s patriotism, and implying he is a terrorist sympathizer while he isn’t present,  this serious accusation is mysteriously absent when Obama is there to defend himself.  During Palin’s speech at the Republican National Convention she said, “We tend to prefer candidates who don’t talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco”.   Biden has now made it patently clear that his ticket prefers candidates who don’t talk about them one way in hate rallies, and another way in Presidential debates.

“In my neighborhood you want to say something about me, look me in the eye and tell me,” said Biden. “Say it to me straight up. Say it to me head on. That’s the code, that’s the ethics! Say it to me! “

For Democrats, them’s fightin’ words.  I don’t know if Biden was pointing at his chin when he said it, but I’ll bet his words ran true with Palin’s coveted “Joe Sixpack” voter.  There’s been a perceptible shift in the last couple days that sees McCain and Palin backing off a little, while Biden gets in the ring. 

The Republican ticket may be realizing that there are some Republicans who don’t much like being thrown in there with the “angry mob” that has become the McCain-Palin base. There are Republicans who are ultimately willing to vote against their own party to protest the smear tactics, and what some would call outright hate-mongering by McCain and Palin.  Every strategy seems to dig them further into the hole.


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11 10 2008
KTN aka Wood Corps Palin

about time.

11 10 2008
KTN aka Wood Corps Palin

also , im starting a new band , Rage Against The McCain.
🙂

11 10 2008
pvazwindy

she’s gonna get boarded in Philly tonight.

11 10 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

It was a great speech by Biden. 45 minutes long but well worth listening too.

11 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

aah, one of the first ten!

11 10 2008
ED

You go, Joe!

Obama/Biden 2008
McLain/Pitbull NEVER

11 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

Love the cartoon, it’s about time someone showed some spine on our side

11 10 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

pvazwindy (12:02:03) :
Does that mean a bad reception? If so, will be delighted!!

11 10 2008
jackie

I think the Obama/Biden ticket have a good case against the McCain/Palin camp for inciting hate which could lead to a hate crime…when they allow they’re constituents to yell ‘off with his head’…They make me ill…

11 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Hallelujah!

11 10 2008
Anonymous

Oh, if only my next door neighbors would get a clue. They’ve just put their McCain/Palin sign out on the lawn….here in liberal, blue state Oregon!

Here’s a nice little summery of Troopergate report.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html

11 10 2008
Anonymous

oh no. why didn’t my post show up? am i lost in space between here and alaska?

11 10 2008
Jingo Killah

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11 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

Just checked out the “Obama Sign Cam”
72 ppl there right now –

Can you believe all this ?

11 10 2008
GJ in Idaho

Being a peace advocate, I’m going to a Peace Lovers for Obama rally this afternoon. I’m certainly ready for a change and am peacefully awaiting a time when calm, clear thinking is once again the norm of the land.

11 10 2008
not your pal Palin

To Dawson Town came Percy Brown from London on the Thames.
A pane of glass was in his eye, and stockings on his stems.
Upon the shoulder of his coat a leather pad he wore,
To rest his deadly rifle when it wasn’t seeking gore;
The which it must have often been, for Major Percy Brown,
According to his story was a hunter of renown,
Who in the Murrumbidgee wilds had stalked the kangaroo
And killed the cassowary on the plains of Timbuctoo.
And now the Arctic fox he meant to follow to its lair,
And it was also his intent to beard the Artic hare…
Which facts concerning Major Brown I merely tell because
I fain would have you know him for the Nimrod that he was.

We Alaskans would have the nation know Palin for the nimrod that she is. She is trying to present a sourdough Alaska image, but it’s likely she may not even know the source of the poem quoted above. Alaska is a multicultural place, a cosmopolitan crossroads of the north, yet she has projected an image of Alaska as akin to Wasilla. For shame.

The quotation is the opening stanza of Robert Service’s “Ballad of the Ice Worm Cocktail,” for those who live Outside. We have a high school in Anchorage named after this wonderful balladeer, and he had a way of cutting down characterless opportunism.

11 10 2008
Regi

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and GREAT cartoon!

11 10 2008
hwmnbn

Just as every Don Corleone needs a Clemenza, a right hand man, an enforcer to make the point in the Godfather’s absence, Joe Biden can “bring it” with passion.

IMO, his stump sheechifying is under-rated. I say let Joe be Joe and keep him smacking down little miss pitbull from now until they concede.

11 10 2008
awake'n aware

Now if only my born again neighbors would just get a clue. They’ve just put out their McCain/Palin signs…..here in liberal, blue leaning Oregon. Can’t reason with them, believe me I’ve tried.

Here’s a nice litttle summary of the Troopergate report.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html

11 10 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh (12:02:56) :

aah, one of the first ten!

I was the first one day!! Inexplicable joy. Childish – but true. When I get a personal answer from AKMuckraker, my year will have been made!

*waves* 🙂 AKM

11 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!!

Took me so long to write this, with the phone constantly ringing, I ended up on the wrong thread,…so I dragged it over here,

Hope nobody minds.

Reasons why republicans voted to have Palin investigated:
Read down the right hand side of this website to see who has been arrested during Palin’s Ethics Clean-up!

http://citizens4ethics.com/category/cfeg/home/background-documents/randy-ruedrich/

Between her admitting to hacking Ruedrich’s computer, to Todd’s first meeting with Monegan not a month after she was sworn in, to Todd working for BP while she is in negotiations both with “Big Oil” and the environmentalists, to Todd having a state-issued Blackberry PAID FOR by the Alaskan people, to her complaint of Ruedrich using $500 of Taxpayer money to go to Republican Committee meetings (while she uses $13,000 of the same to go to church events), To Todd being part of the negotiations with Pebble Mine (although they couldn’t figure out why HE was on their plane), to AIP’s assertion that she(Sarah) was the object of attention- not Todd, – NOT to mention the questionable house, nor the Wooten/Monegan issue……
This couple has been running a reign of terror in her determination to get to the White House!

I know it’s a free country, but you don’t lie to the electorate about your loyalties, nor that you have been a champion of ethics.
And, with her doing the hacking of Ruedrich’s computer, how does one know that emails weren’t ‘planted’ to make him look worse than he is? Why, oh why, did she not call the FBI to do the ‘hacking’ and other forensics on Ruedrich? And, if all this determined investigation of Ruedrich (albeit illegal since she is/was NOT a police officer) has resulted in her being able to remove her own deterrants to achieving public office (another ethics violation), why did the leiutenant-governor quit?

If you read this story, which tells of her ‘daring’ hacking of Ruedrich’s computer and mail, and sending even his garbage to the authorities (why didn’t authorities take over?)
http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/5572779p-5504444c.html

Then watch/read this, and remember Todd works for BP and has access to EVERYTHING in her office:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

Where is the FBI?,

11 10 2008
PJ

I’m still waiting for my Obama yard sign, should come this week.

McCain is utilizing the “shiti” method for his campaign, basically he throws shit against the wall and waits to see what sticks.

11 10 2008
karen marie

there’s an interesting post up at dkos on some details about palin’s associations with religious extremists some here might find of interest.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/8/81320/5572/717/623739

11 10 2008
Bev

AP just released a stringer story from the Davenport Rally for McCain today. The opening invocation is enough to turn everyone atheist:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27130171/

11 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/11/uselections2008-johnmccain1

This is in today’s GUARDIAN newspaper of England. Nice to see that other people notice the disgusting campaign that McShame and Drusilla are running.

11 10 2008
MJC

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” — Mahatma Gandhi

11 10 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

biden needed to get nasty

if i was biden, i woulda said

“governor, i dont sleep with a secessionist”

11 10 2008
Bobg

GJ in Idaho-you can never be a politician. Calm, clear thinking is against everything that a politician believes. Why spend all the time on calm, clear thinking when you have guns, bombs and rockets.

11 10 2008
Woods Corp P. (Woodie)

Fantastic Cartoon!

AKM, you sure know how to ‘meld’ stories and ancillary captions for effective communications.

11 10 2008
copybook realist

i left the house and went into work to get away from this blog…now I am logged in at work. OH well!

thanks Forty Watt Hussein for the lovely poem..I feel that it still needs SPs middle initial though. I still thought it deserved a reposting on the new thread!

Apologies to Dr. Seuss and Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

The time has come
The time is now
Just go
Go
Go!
I don’t care how.
You can go by snowshoe
Or moose cow
Sarah Pailin, will you please go now!
You can go by plane
You can go on skis
You can go in shame
But
Please go
Please!
I don’t care.
Go by broomstick,
Go by night,
Go by Bristol Bay,
Go in darkness,
Take your flute,
Please
Just go away!
Sarah Pailin don’t you know
The time has come
For you to go?
Go by wolf,
Go by rabbit.
Go for good.
And while you’re at it…..
NEVER COME BACK!

11 10 2008
Teresa

Sarah Palin Remixed

11 10 2008
Question from AZ

Found an interesting story about who helped build the Palin house on Lake Lucille. Isn’t this what Stevens is in trouble for?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/11/111018/34/47/627460

11 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater

Hey kids..

The latest Repugnant flap is coming from Rep John Lewis, for equating McCain to George Wallace. Of course, McCain, as usual started crying like the little baby he is, demanding Obama say something about it.

This whining coming from the same pathetic little excuse for a man who’s been attempting to tie Obama into the second coming of Satan. How ironic.. No pathetic..

Lewis said the furvor and anger that McCain is fanning is equal to what Wallace did in attempting to rile up people against basically anyone black.

Whether it’s related, no one will eve know, but a black church was firebombed today and 4 kids were killed.. IF this somehow comes from one of the crazed Repug consumed into such hate that he could do that, then McCain/Palin should be arrested for conspiracy after the fact. A valid argument can be made that someone inciting people to riot is also by association to be a rioter.

Of course, McCain is a pussy and would never do it himself. He’s like the kid in the cafeteria who throws the peas, then hides under the table. He’s got no courage.

The nerve of McGrumpy wanting an apology for being accused of doing exactly what he’s doing.

11 10 2008
Emjay

MJC “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” — Mahatma Gandhi

Truer words were never spoken (at least for many ‘Christians’ . . . not all). :o(

11 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!!

Here’s a question:
Did Obama let Ayers sit in his Senate office and go through papers?
Did Obama give Ayers a state-paid Blackberry and let him in on all the goings-on?
Did Obama CC Ayers with gov’t information?
Did Ayers make phone calls and meet with appointed officials on Obama’s behalf to convey items of an unethical nature?
Is Obama sleeping with Ayers?

11 10 2008
Regi

Who equated McCain with Wallace? Off to google.

11 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA
11 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Hey, he makes me proud to be a Georgian.

11 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

Joe Biden is Joe 6-pack. I hope he latches on to that theme and steals it right out from under SWWNBN. Their campaign has made regular and practically plagiaristic comments, stealing Obama and Biden’s platforms and speech snippets. I would LOVE to see Joe use “Joe 6-pack” in a speech about his neighbors and friends on the train. See how THEY like it.

Don’t you wonder what W thinks of this all? And as our current (albeit lame duck ) president, isn’t it his duty to speak out against the hateful things people are shouting at GOP rallies? You’d think that would be a given.

It feels like the 60’s… except I think people in general are a lot smarter than to buy in to the hate.

11 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater

Knik..

Couldn’t this go further??

Did Obama support funding a $600,000 kitchen in her hometown Ice Rink no one uses?
Did Obama go to meetings of a known terrorist organisation , the AIP?
Did Obama send a video taped ‘welcome speech’ to the same group?
Did Obama leave Chicago 20 times more in debt than Palin did in Wasilla?
Did Obama abuse the public trust?
Does Obama have better legs than Palin?🙂

11 10 2008
Marsha

Nice to see Joe Biden bite back. It’s one thing to be obnoxious and disrespectful, it’s quite another to defend yourself loudly and proudly and that’s what Biden is doing. Go Joe!

11 10 2008
Hyla

I like cool calm and collected. It is how are President should act.

But still I say “Way to go Joe!” I hope this is the biggest landslide nomination in history! Lets make sure we get out there and get everyone to Vote!

~Hyla
http://earthyfinds.blogspot.com

11 10 2008
copybook realist

Bev (12:17:02) :
adding to your post……
AP just released a stringer story from the Davenport Rally for McCain today. The opening invocation is enough to turn everyone atheist

Unhelpful for establishing the tone McCain sought in Davenport was the Rev. Arnold Conrad, past pastor of the Grace Evangelical Free Church. His prayer before McCain arrived at the convention center blocks from the Mississippi River appeared to dismiss faiths other than Christianity and cast the election as a referendum on God himself.

“I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons,” Conrad said.

“And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day,” he said.

Man…these people are crazy. Are they really imaging the gods competing up there?

11 10 2008
Hyla

“our” not are……..sorry

~Hyla

11 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

copybook realist (12:33:41) :

Funny thing: At least they actually acknowledged the possibility of “other Gods”! LOL, I’m sure not their intention.

11 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

knikgoose HUSSEIN!! (12:14:42

I would think the FBI are doing a lot of reading right about now!

How much do you bet that Todd’s blackberry pisses Alaskans off more than all the rest!

11 10 2008
11 10 2008
GJ in Idaho

Bobg:
Who was it that said, “Live By The Sword, Die By The Sword?”

All this fear, hate, fear…talk, sells ad space, but I’m not buying. Sigh!
I’m going to go hug my grandkid.

11 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!!

The thing that’s rotting my socks today is the flipping out done when that kid hacked into and EXPOSED her other email accounts, but,..it was OKAY, in fact, HEROIC, for her to do the same thing to a member of the Rebublican Party (He was chairman for Alaska, at the time)
How the heck does THAT work?

11 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

“God has no religion” Gandhi

Mr. Fish blog http://blogs.laweekly.com/fish/
Funny guy.

11 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Hyla, no because there is only one god, but wait, their god is winning and hold on, um, what?

It’s amazing the crap that is spewin’ fortth. Props to Obama for being as gracious as possible about it, even thanking McCain for backing down.

I do have one request: Please, people, post links–not the whole text from stories. The latter makes it difficult to load the page–and I have DSL.

@DR, thanks for the video of Dave Stewart’s American Prayer. What a beautiful song.

11 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

ATTENTION ALL MUDPUPPIES IN THE PITTSBURGH AND W.PA. AREA

For two weeks now several of us have been in contact via e-mail and have been talking about getting together in a local indoor emotional support mini-MudStock of sorts. We wanted to let some time pass on the Mudflats to see who else would be showing up in AKM’s electronic Great White North from our area. Several other folks have contacted me already too.

If you are in this area even as far as Morgantown, W.Va. and Youngstown, OH and want to be in the loop, please contact me directly by e-mail at:

HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com

I work as a software engineer right in the Strip District every day. I figure Pittsburgh itself is the most central to everyone, and the Strip District is the easiest to find. After 5PM there is plenty of street parking.

These are the two places I thought would be good for a first meeting. Then we could look at some other suggestions for the future.

SALOON ON THE STRIP (Strip District – 2117 Penn Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA)
http://www.saloononthestrip.com/

ROLANDS (Strip District – 1904 Penn Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA)
http://www.rolandsseafoodgrill.com/

LJP CAN’T come on Friday the 17th, so I was thinking THURSDAY, OCTOBER 16th at 6PM at either of these two places. I will go over to both on Monday and see which might be best. I think we could have at least 10 people so far. Maybe more if we all try to contact identified Pittsburgh/W.Pa. people that are on the Forum. I know the new owner of Saloon and perhaps we can get the upper room. I am sure we all want to sit down and talk at a big table. His downstairs may not be so suitable but the upstairs might be good. I know Rolands has big tables that can be moved together. So I will see what I can find out.

I think it is time to meet up in person for psychological support with the Presidential Election just a little over two weeks away on this coming Thursday. And in another week like this on Wall Street we may all need directions to the Jubilee soup kitchen in Homestead.

(All of you Mudpuppies worldwide can Google the Great Homestead Steel Strike of 1892 to get educated on the industrial history of our area!)

The famous Strip District is where they filmed the riot scene in the film “Hoffa” with Jack Nicholson and Danny Devito in 1992. The place is a living movie set. Here it is ALWAYS 1932 and the entire 20th Century is out in front of us and Franklin Delano Roosevelt is running for President.

So it appears our eternal local living movie set might be going cosmic now with the help of our national Wall Street derivatives and credit default swap geniuses.

“Once I ran railroads that ran on time, brother can you spare a dime…”

Who would have ever thought it would come to this?

Anyway, as I keep posting on the Mudflats, Joe is speaking a truth here:

So maybe it is time we all meet up locally on the always interesting mystical road of life. Since I’m a film guy, perhaps Humphrey Bogart is saying something for all of us Mudpuppies here:

I’ll see what I can figure out as to the best place when I go and look on Monday during the day, and send out an email to everyone Monday night who has contacted me. But how does all meeting up on THURSDAY, OCTOBER 16th at 6PM at either Saloon on the Strip or Rolands sound as the tentative date?

The location will go out by e-mail notification Monday night. Again, if you want to be in the loop, contact me directly at HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com

And someone please bring their digital camera!

11 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
Sinclair Lewis

I snagged this from the HuffPo article on SWWNBN’s issues regarding the separation of church and state… which she doesn’t do.

It scared me.

11 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

Think you for posting all the above links – they certainly make for interesting and eye-opening reading. The article in Time was very enlightening.

One thing that comes through loud and clear is that the only “Domestic Terrorists” to be extremely worried about are those radical, hate-filled followers who have been let loose by the distrubing inciteful insinuations and accusations of the abhorrant couple currently representing the Republican party.

The Republicans should be horrified and thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Should they every wish to regain credibility again, they must disaccociate from the corrupt politicians such as Palin (and her meddlesome, unelected husband) and ‘her running mate’.

11 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

knikgoose HUSSEIN!! (12:44:28) :

The thing that’s rotting my socks today is the flipping out done when that kid hacked into and EXPOSED her other email accounts, but,..it was OKAY, in fact, HEROIC, for her to do the same thing to a member of the Rebublican Party (He was chairman for Alaska, at the time)
How the heck does THAT work?
———————
Same way everything else works for her “do what I say, not what I do”

11 10 2008
Ted Powell

There’s a nice concise summary of the Branchflower report at http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Oct11.html (or simply http://www.electoral-vote.com/ if you’re looking at it this Saturday).
The site’s electoral-vote map for today shows: Obama, 343; McCain, 184; Ties, 11.
There’s new material every day, with an updated map, articles, and new polling data.

11 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

Would guess that the IRS is doing some “in-depth” reading & research also

11 10 2008
tspey

Being an Alaskan fly fisherman and outdoorsman, I have many friends who lean much more conservative than my left-leaning and at times left-falling over stance particularly on healthcare, education (my wife teaches), domestic issues, foreign policy, the economy, taxes… pretty much everything that GW, Cheney and the new era ‘fiscal conservatives’ destroyed.

The Branchflower report has flipped many of my ‘conservative’ friends to change their vote to Obama. I still have 3 or 4 hold outs, but it is my mission to get them to rip off the duct tape covering their eyes.

11 10 2008
JimK

Tell me it isn’t so JOE.. Is that the MCCAIN trying to kill the ABLE

11 10 2008
Catherine

Nice cartoon. 🙂

This morning a very nice older gentleman was going door to door asking if people had made a decision on who they were voting for and if so, if htey didn’t mind sharing it with him. Very happy to say I had made a decision, was definitely going to vote, and my vote would go to the Obama-Biden ticket.

He said the people he had spoken to so far were running about 4 to 1 in favor of Obama, good news here in MICHIGAN! 🙂

(I thought about putting up a sign, but it probably would just cause trouble since I live right across the street from the school that is my polling place and I know there are limits on how close to a polling place you can have signs. No problem – I see plenty of signs for Obama just a few blocks away!)

–aka Bullpen Cola Palin

11 10 2008
AZ MOM

the report is out and Palin is dismissing the findings…so now what? will there be a call for censure? at the least? i’m sickened to think she’s out there being the talking head for such hate. she’s making alaska look like it’s full of right-wing, sheet-wearing zealots. i know better. YOU know better. but this idiot needs a serious “come to Jesus” sort of sit down. i have hopes that Obama wins for many reasons, but manly to see her face the music when she has to go back to alaska.

11 10 2008
Ted Powell

There’s a PDF of the Branchflower report at http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf
Some recent articles at http://majikthise.typepad.com/ (scroll down)
McCain Palin haters in Ohio (video)
Sarah Palin’s radical rightwing buddies
Palin has 12 hours of foreign policy experience, has never met with a Russian official

11 10 2008
Regi

knikgoose HUSSEIN!! (12:44:28) :

The thing that’s rotting my socks today is the flipping out done when that kid hacked into and EXPOSED her other email accounts, but,..it was OKAY, in fact, HEROIC, for her to do the same thing to a member of the Rebublican Party (He was chairman for Alaska, at the time)
How the heck does THAT work?

If it makes the hacker supporters feel a bit better remember the kid’s youth. We know a hacker that got the huge fines, suspended sentence, IRS trouble, etc… That kid is still better off than 90% of the world’s citizens. He runs a business, is as skilled as ever and will have no trouble earning a living. Really, if a Republican did this to Obama we’d be equally angry. As for Palin, didn’t Mudflats say she was authorized under the attorney general when she did her hack job?

11 10 2008
LA

tspey (12:50:58) :

Being an Alaskan fly fisherman and outdoorsman, I have many friends who lean much more conservative than my left-leaning and at times left-falling over stance particularly on healthcare, education (my wife teaches), domestic issues, foreign policy, the economy, taxes… pretty much everything that GW, Cheney and the new era ‘fiscal conservatives’ destroyed.

The Branchflower report has flipped many of my ‘conservative’ friends to change their vote to Obama. I still have 3 or 4 hold outs, but it is my mission to get them to rip off the duct tape covering their eyes
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
tspey,
I live in a very “R” neighborhood. I have had my Obama HOPE sign in my window for months..the only one on my street. I have noticed that many more Obama signs are being put up and some of the McWeasel signs are coming down….hummmm makes one wonder. Plus I do have sevreal R friends..they have been VERY quiet the last few days….:)

11 10 2008
richie (middle name HUSSEIN)

the cartoon is hilarious. if mccain doesn’t bring up ayers on wednesday he is in big trouble with his mob-they will turn on him. they have been begging him to call obama out and now biden and obama are basically saying he is a coward for not bringing up ayers at the townhall debate. hmmm, i’m thinking obama has a smackdown waiting for mccain. i hope he comes out fighting on wednesday…

11 10 2008
Catherine

And Ed Snider (Flyers owner) is a moron – for a lot of reason, actually.

Palin will get booed on general principles. The only reason she probably won’t get doused with watered down beer is because it will be early and no one will want to waste the $8.00 until they get a bit more buzzed. Philadelphia fans have a proudly ruthless reputation to maintain – although I am personally hoping for a pratfall on the ice and a bruised tailbone. Heh, heh, heh.

11 10 2008
avahome

AKM..Please read dkos diary:

Did Sports Complex Contractors Build Palin’s House for Free?http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/11/111018/34/47/627460

Perhaps there is something we mudflatters can do to help dig this out further?

11 10 2008
11 10 2008
Gossip Rocks Forum

Joe Biden calls Sarah Palin out for ignoring psychotic rants at her rallies…

Pitbull……

11 10 2008
avahome
11 10 2008
LA

Catherine,
Put your sign up..we still have freedom of speech here in the US and it is YOUR property.
LA

11 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Can somebody explain to me what boarded means? Am an ignoranr Brit when it comes to hockey (and many, many other things, also!)

11 10 2008
wired hussein differently

Hamlets Mill: Makes me almost wish I lived in the Pittsburgh area. Cool that you’re doing that. Even if you all come together only once, it will be an experience that you remember and cherish in this most crazy of elections.

I know there are several Seattle area people among us. It would be pretty easy for us to gather for a happy hour to raise a glass to AKM, if anyone were so inclined.

11 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Another thing, McCain calling out Lewis for likening him (McCain) to George Wallace is pathetic. I can’t believe someone who lived through the sixties could be so cavalier about race-baiting. For shame, McCain, for shame.

11 10 2008
SMR

@AZMom:

Of course we knew that she would dismiss the findings, she declared herself innocent the evening before it was released, based on the findings of the McLame campaign!

Doesn’t really matter what she says at this point. That is a pretty damning report, even if you only pay attention to what a complete nutter her husband was, how obsessed he was, the fact that he seemed to consider himself some sort of authority… THere are some really great articles published that spell it all out in very logical terms, impossible for all but the most brainwashed to understand. Also some really great commentary on television.

That the information has been put out there for public consumption is enough for me today. I think it’s open season on Scary Bible Spice & her hubby now.

Bring on the inquiries into her house (sounds kinda like that situation that Ted Stevens is on trial for right now) & the million other things.

Besides that — I want a blackberry too! How do I get one that the state pays for, except to buy it with the PFD that I don’t get (we recently moved back to this state & are moving again in 7 months)? Actually, I think that all people in the US are paying for his blackberry, since you’re subsidizing us in the form of earmarks and the PFD money that should be dispensed to all Americans, not just Alaskans…

11 10 2008
SMR

Are we meaning waterboarding (torture condoned by US in defiance of human rights laws) when we say “boarded”? If so, I’m all for it!

11 10 2008
Peggy

PIT BULL, HELL! LET’S CALL HER WHAT SHE REALLY IS, A “PIT VIPER”!

11 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

I can dismiss the fact that I need to lose at least twenty pounds, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Somene asked, “Where are the Christian leaders with courage to denounce this woman?” I am asking the same thing.

11 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Heh, heh, no I hope not really, can’t stand the bloody woman but not that.

11 10 2008
wired hussein differently

SMR,

You’re right, and maybe I should ask Todd for a turn on his blackberry, since I have partial ownership.

11 10 2008
disenchanted tore

UK Lady- *boarded* as in slammed up against the boards tee hee

11 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

“boarded” in hockey is when a player slams a player from the other team against the side of the rink, ‘against the boards’. It quite often results in injuries and penalties.

11 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

Blimey!! is that even legal?

11 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

I think Drusilla Failin’ Paling is about to encounter her very own ‘end times’ quite soon.

11 10 2008
Me Ghandi

I like your pals, I do not like your Palins. Your Palins are so unlike your pals.

11 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

Actually, I think Drusilla is a cross of Leona Helmsley and a real pit bull (with lipstick).

11 10 2008
kimosabe

UK lady — no, it’s not “legal”, but it is why people go to hockey games!🙂

11 10 2008
V.P., Flat HUSSEIN Earth Society

UK Lady – we have a saying -” We went to a fight the other night and a game of hockey broke out”.

11 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

To not your pal Palin:

There were references made to Robert Service early on when this blog first began to “explode.” Were you here then? Somebody, maybe it was you, wrote a wonderful parody of “The Cremation of Sam McGee” giving the part of Sam to SP (if I remember correctly).

How does one search back a month?

11 10 2008
MJC

Bev & copybook realist;

I think McCain should have to repudiate Rev. Arnold Conradco’s opening prayer.

How ironic that McCain is demanding that Obama repudiate John Lewis’s statement.

11 10 2008
Enjay aka Turbine Yukon

@ UK lady turning turtle Palinps (13:12:05) :

Blimey!! is that even legal?

May not be legal – but is expected

11 10 2008
Pursang

What kills me about this supposed hacking into Palin’s email account is that it was not hacking. The kid guessed the answers to her top secret Yahoo mail password question from things that either she said or the press reported. How is it that hacking?

Yahoo mail is a free service and it has a security system of a free email service. You don’t conduct business on a free email system and you especially do not conduct government business on one. In an elected officials case you use them to get around laws and I say if you are dumb enough to be using Yahoo mail for important aspects of your life; things you don’t want others to find out about then you deserve whatever happens to you.

Just the fact that she was using this and a myriad of other non government email addresses tells me she is a secretive person who is involved in a lot of shady if not downright illegal things. All you have to do is look at the Bush White House and how they used non .gov email accounts to get around laws to know that.

I hope that the people of Alaska have woken up to the real person they elected. I know that you’ve done more to hold her accountable than we have ever been able to do with the Bush Crime Family so I applaud you for that. Now I just hope you go the distance and either impeach her or at the very least if she runs for a 2nd term that you send her political career down in flames.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!!

11 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Here is some newly discovered previously unknown archival footage of a Sarah Palin Rally

THIS is what is going to happen when the people of the United States come out in droves to state on November 4th, 2008 that the Republican Ticket isn’t even “old timey”

11 10 2008
Pacificnwgal

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003873017

This link came from Huff post reagarding Ayers and Obama that is quite interesting. It is from the prosecutor of the Weathermen. Appears as though integrity and illegal activity are muddied somewhat on both sides of the issue. One of the biggest reasons Ayers was not tried was due to illegal wire tapping,e etc… by our own Mark Felt of Watergate fame. The other thing the article brings to light is the flimsy relationship between Obama and Ayers. There isn’t one. Ayers himself is now a distinguished professor at the University of Illinois. He is outspoken on progressive education, something this country should consider. As an educator, it would be nice to consider some interesting ideas. I bet you that his classes are full with all this publicity. I believe in forgiveness. I think he has redeemed himself in the past 40 years.

11 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

This is off topic but I thought everyone would want to read
this post. It’s on the last thread at 13:12:46. I just spoke to
a lady at the Side Street Espresso and told her I was sorry
about the way the Repubs treated their business. She said
that all of the demonstraters were rude. She also said that
all money received from Mudflatters would be donated to the
Obama campaign. I gave her the address to this website and
invited her to visit and comment. Hopefully we will be reading
posts from these very kind people very soon.

11 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

You guys are so funny!!! was just telling other half about your answers to boarding question, it is the first bit of laughter I got our of him on US elections since I got obsessed with it, right back in the primaries. He is praying for Nov 5th!!!

11 10 2008
Barb Snow

Most so called Joe sixpacks that I know don’t wear Designer Glasses and have Botox treatments.

11 10 2008
Sparky

Go Gettum Joe…I love you!

Joe Biden cannot not tell the truth, which not only periodically hands Palin her A$$ (an AKM-ism), but will be of utmost value to Obama’s administration. No “yes man” here, just a good honest American Patriot.

And intelligent, passionate, and cute to boot…

The Palin “Abuse of Power” was front page above the fold story in The Sacramento Bee newspaper. Enjoyed seeing it first thing this morning with my coffee.

@Jingo Killah (12:07:25) : Vote for Mudflats! The Blogger’s Choice Awards is gathering votes for, amongst other things, Best Political Blog. Mudflats is nominated, but needs your support – if you have a moment, go sign up, and find this page and give Mudflats your vote!

I second Jingo’s motion. Mudflats deserves the recognition. Please consider voting.

11 10 2008
Riverside

To the tune of Dixieland Sweet Mama:

We don’t want no thinkin’, blinkin’ governor
Don’t think, Don’t blink
We got our shootin’ frontier gal, that’s swell
Don’t think, Don’t blink
She’s just the one to give em’ hell

Way up here in ‘laska Land
If you don’t wanna get stuck in some quicksand
Don’t think, Don’t blink
Just do whatever you’re gonna’ do
Don’t think, Don’t blink

If we wanted some smart ass governor
We’d hire someone from Havard Law
Don’t think, Don’t blink
But we like our lickin’ good moose stew
That ole law just sticks in our craw
Don’t think, Don’t blink…..

Sorry, Alaskans. I know that’s not really you, it’s just a little bad P.R. due to the VP fame/fortune thing.
It will pass.

Meanwhile, no need for the world to be so rude.

11 10 2008
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin

Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater: Where did the info about the bombing come from? Was it near where they have been or are now? This is awful, terrible, I really feel like crying…:(
McClain/Saracuda have set us back 40 yrs or so, with thier “campaign”!
You just know the FBI gonna find them and their gonna say, well I saw Sarah Palin on TV say Oh- bammma was a terr o ist! sickening😦

11 10 2008
LA

Sparky,
Can you believe it..I’m In Sacto too and there was a blip last night on Channel 10….YES.
Mostly its been Arnold and the budget. Finally.

11 10 2008
Auntie G

We have nothing to worry about. As my husband told me, “It is written in the stars. Obama’s Biden his time, McCain’s Palin in comparison.” This is my mantra.

11 10 2008
jwa-Cheney Hussein Palin

I think one response out of the Obama camp will be to turn this back on big John. Rather than attack Sarah directly, the real issue here is with the top of the ticket.

Turn this into a referendum on McCain’s judgment. Did he know all this about Palin before he nominated her?? (He says he DID). If he didn’t know then he should have and did not adequately vet her.

If he DID, as he says, then we are left with a presidential candidate that knowingly nominates a VP who is guilty of abuse of power of office. Oooh, that makes me feel SO secure. We have a potential president who is mavericky erratic, and a VP candidate who is drunk with the power of hate she has aroused in her rallies, has abused the power of governor and thinks the VP should have MORE power.

If this woman gets into national office – God help us.

11 10 2008
Sparky

LA (13:31:58) :

YOUZA! A local fellow Mudpuppy…I’m liking that a lot. Good to meet you LA!

Yes, Arnie has a load on his hands; watching that closely also.

11 10 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

Irishgirl aka puck mule (12:09:53) :

Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh (12:02:56) :

aah, one of the first ten!

I was the first one day!! Inexplicable joy. Childish – but true. When I get a personal answer from AKMuckraker, my year will have been made!

*waves* AKM
Thank you.

11 10 2008
UK lady turning turtle Palinps

jwa-Cheney Hussein Palin (13:34:32) :

Spot on, as usual.

Does the hockey game get streamed anywhere? know I’m vile, but would love to see Silly Sarah boarded, booed, slipon her arse etc.

11 10 2008
LA

Sparky,
Good to meet you too!!! I’m in the South area. Where are you?
72 days to get a budget and the firefighters and police can’t be paid…you have GOT to be kidding me. And now he is going to DC to ask for money for the budget..

11 10 2008
drew from little ol texas

Anyone know more about all the rumors about “Who really built and paid for Palins house ”

Rumors are saying it was built at the same time and very close to the Sports Complex.

Todd says he built it !! Man, along with being “Shadow Gov”, “World Class Snowmachine Dude” “Proud Member of the Union”, “Oil Platform Roughneck” and now he’s a “Carpenter, Electrician, Plumber, Roofer, Cabinetmaker, Flooring guy, Landscaper, etc..

Holy Shit, too Hell with Sara !!, Can we have Todd ??!!

Drop McCain, lets run with the Todd/Sara ticket. Or is this the long term plan already?

Could someone please post the recipe for that stuff they are known for up there in Wat Su Valley (if i mis spelled that, I mean no offense) cause we got a lot of work to do down here in Little ol Texas !!

Thanks Alaska and we really are proud of ya’ll for having the guts and fortitude to stand up to the corrupt McCain “Bent Axle Express”

11 10 2008
Tom from PA

First…another conservative has endorsed Obama for POTUS. Christopher Buckley (yes the son of William F. Buckley)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-10/the-conservative-case-for-obama

11 10 2008
Irishgirl aka puck mule

UK Lady,
Slip on her ass will be just fine!!

11 10 2008
Sauerkraut aka Pity Party Palin

Did someone say there was gonna be a Get Lost Party for Sarah Palin sometime soon?

Nov. 5 cannot come soon enough.

Yanno how long it takes to read the 200+ Branchflower Report?

I don’t know either. I’m still reading it.

11 10 2008
MJC

NEW THREAD ALERT!
NEW THREAD ALERT!
NEW THREAD ALERT!

11 10 2008
Miemaw from Texas

To LA – put up your Obama sign. Don’t let it decorate your closet it does no good there.

After days without power, in the aftermath of IKE, and what I thought was totally unacceptable response from the power company, I hand made a sign and nailed it to the front of my house. It read: C***** P**** Sux. 16 days – No Power. Every day I would change the number. My son was appalled. He said the neighbors might blame me, for all of us not having power. My neighbors, conversely, wanted signs to hang on the front of their own homes, which I gladly furnished. On day, 20 when I had been with power for two days, I took it down. I also reminded my son about the right to express my opinion, and what freedom of speech was all about. So… LA… put out your sign.

AKM. I just read the part of the report I was too sleepy to finish last night. An obsession is an awful thing. A vendetta is a worse thing. Combine the two, and you have Sarah and Todd Palin. They are not rational thinking people.

They tied up the law enforcement resources of the State of Alaska for the better part of two years. She didn’t get much done, but picnics. And, it would seem, thanks to “The first Gentleman” nobody else was allowed to accomplish a whole lot, but look into why Michael Wooten still had a job.

Damndest thing I ever read. Steve Branchflower, and his staff did a fine job, in putting that all together. Mr. Monegan, Bless him. Tried to warn her. She wouldn’t listen. She just wouldn’t listen. Some people can only learn the hard way.
If you didn’t know it was true — you would think it was a draft of a bad novel.

Let the lawsuits commence.

I reckon our “Joe” has hit his stride again. Sounds like it anyway.

11 10 2008
pamela

Great cartoon and way to go, Joe! Biden proves you can talk to the middle class with passion and common sense but without being mean and snarky.

11 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

If what that kid did was called Hacking, then I’m guilty too. I “hacked” my ex’s e-mail account because I knew the answers to the security questions. Somehow I don’t think I’ll be going to jail for it.

Oh, btw, I only did it for self preservation. Long story.

11 10 2008
drew from little ol texas

Please note that I post with only humor in my heart !!

With that said…

What the hell is a “World Class Snowmachine Dude” anyway ??!!

All we got down here is the “World’s Farthest Bullshit Paddy Throwing Dude”

btw, W rose his ugly head this morning and said “we’re lucking he’s running this shit (I mean ship) while we’re going thru this financial meltdown. Compared to who?? McSame maybe?? or maybe Phil Grahm.

How stupid do they think we are?? or maybe we shouldn’t answer that !!

11 10 2008
LA

Miemaw from Texas (13:50:00) :

To LA – put up your Obama sign. Don’t let it decorate your closet it does no good there.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Miemaw,
My sign has been in my front widow for months!!! I wanted to put it outside but living in an “R: neighborhood…I didn’t want it stolen. We have had a hard time getting signs here in Ca even being a blue State. I have been down to campaign headguarters 3 times in the last month. They keep running out of signs….YES. I went to Target today to get stencils so I can make my own Obama signs.
LA

11 10 2008
"That One!" aka Dal

ALL: FYI

From the Washington Monthly:

The McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.

11 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

copybook realist (12:33:41) :

Bev (12:17:02) :
adding to your post……
AP just released a stringer story from the Davenport Rally for McCain today. The opening invocation is enough to turn everyone atheist

Unhelpful for establishing the tone McCain sought in Davenport was the Rev. Arnold Conrad, past pastor of the Grace Evangelical Free Church. His prayer before McCain arrived at the convention center blocks from the Mississippi River appeared to dismiss faiths other than Christianity and cast the election as a referendum on God himself.

“I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons,” Conrad said.

“And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day,” he said.

Man…these people are crazy. Are they really imaging the gods competing up there?

God said do not test Him! Is this man for real? How dare he challenge God to stand up and be a real God! What planet do these people live on?

11 10 2008
not your pal Palin

Susie in Jersey,

I wish I could take credit for the parody, and I wish I could search it out now. I married a man born in Alaska who is forever quoting Service from memory. Give him a glass of wine at a party and a welcome audience, and he’ll put on a show. Fortunately, he’s not willing to do it without a willing audience.

Service was willing to spin a tale but was also willing to cut through the crap. Sarah is willing to sell Alaska stereotypes if it is to her advantage, but she is no measure of a real Alaskan; and I just wanted to let the friendly folks Outside know that she does not represent our character. We are willing to contribute to the common good and look out for one another.

11 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Do you think Barack or Joe would let me have their baby? Just sayin…

11 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

asianHusseingrrlMN (13:09:13) :

I can dismiss the fact that I need to lose at least twenty pounds, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Somene asked, “Where are the Christian leaders with courage to denounce this woman?” I am asking the same thing.

The “Christian Leaders” are just like Republicans! They tell their congregation to vote for republicans, “but not in so many words”. The mega churches do this. You know the ones, that condemn their congregation if they don’t show their tax returns to ensure they are paying their 10% to their greedy ass!!!

I believe in God, but I don’t believe in the so called “Christian Leaders”, they are a bunch of money hungry, wolves in sheep clothing! Not all, but most.

11 10 2008
Sauerkraut aka Pity Party Palin

Two comments about the NYTimes article linked, above.

1) article says Todd Palin presented Monegan with three “huge” piles of files at the first meeting. Monegan’s testimony is that while Todd Palin had three groups of files in front of him during that initial meeting in January 2007, one of the groups was just the Grimes’ 3/06 reprimand letter to Wooten and another a few photographs (unclear how many but not voluminous) Palin took of Wooten. Hardly what I’d call 3 “huge” piles.

2) The article states that Sarah Palin had very little direct involvement in what Todd Palin was doing. I strongly disagree. Todd stated in his answers to Branchflower’s questions that he and Sarah talk about everything, and that they are best friends. It is my belief that Todd acted under her direct instructions to get her sister’s ex-husband fired. While I may agree that Wooten does not possess the temperment necessary in a State Trooper, I strongly disagree with the manner in which the Palins used public resources to settle a family grievance. Using public resources for private purposes is, in my view, a crime subject to referral to state and federal Public Corruption investigators.

11 10 2008
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater

Cali.. think it was in alabama.. ironic huh?

11 10 2008
Sparky

er, off topic to LA
LA (13:39:37)

I’m opposite of you, North-ish in Fair Oaks. Yes, you nailed it…72 days for a sucky budget (yah, let’s borrow from the future to balance this thing, just to make us elected officials look okay????? Talk me down) then borrow sooner to keep this state running? ACK! Absolutely drives me nuts!

California is a complicated state to run efficiently and effectively…it’s large in physical size, demographically diverse (to the max), and a handfull.

Still nice to have a Mudpuppy nearby😉

11 10 2008
Pat

Catherine……SIgns must be 250′ away from the polls. ( In Maine! is that Federal election rules? I think it might be)
But I think that is ONLY on the day of the election when the polls are open for voting!

11 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

“Somene asked, “Where are the Christian leaders with courage to denounce this woman?” I am asking the same thing.”

Has anyone visited this site? The Christians that walk the Sermon of the Mount are endorsing Obama/Biden…

http://www.matthew25.org/

11 10 2008
derDunkelRover

She is picking up the abortion talk. I think that will help the cause.

11 10 2008
Sauerkraut aka Pity Party Palin

UK lady – you are only “vile” if you suggest a definition to “boarding” which is outside the realm of hockey. She won’t get boarded on the ice tonite, but I am hoping for more than a smattering of bbbbboooooooo’s directed at her from the toughest professional hockey crowd in North America.

11 10 2008
Sauerkraut aka Pity Party Palin

Dal – do you have a link to that Washington Monthly story? Thanks if you do.

11 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

Thank you copybook realist for reposting the poem. It made me realize I spelt Palin wrongly. How is that even possible after weeks of obsessing over her?

11 10 2008
Sauerkraut aka Pity Party Palin

Pat – Maine might have tigher restrictions re signs near polls, but here in pennsyltucky there is no 250 rule. People just need to be at least 10 feet from polling entrances and not block clear access.

11 10 2008
drchill

Observation-

Palin repeats parts of her nomination speech including-
John McCain won’t say it himself,( Mr Modesty) but there’s really only one man in this campaign who’s ever really fought for you …
Then she promises to fight for you..
Then McCain get up and says how he’s fought for you all his life.

So Sarah’s gonna enlist and do battle for democracy. Of course if she does only 20 hours of combat duty, like McCain, we’ll hear about it forever …

11 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

NOOOOOOOOOO – it happened in the sixties!! Mr Lewis was just quoting it!

Whether it’s related, no one will eve know, but a black church was firebombed today and 4 kids were killed.. IF this somehow comes from one of the crazed Repug consumed into such hate that he could do that, then McCain/Palin should be arrested for conspiracy after the fact. A valid argument can be made that someone inciting people to riot is also by association to be a rioter.

11 10 2008
Catherine
11 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

This has bothered me some, ever since the original speech…
Does anybody else here NOT have a fundamental problem with Joe Biden’s original statement? Uh, after all–taxes are the price that we pay to HAVE a government at all. It IS patriotic to pay your taxes, especially if you actually pay your fair share. Who the hell does she think pays the Army/Navy/Air Force/Marines/Coast Guard??? WE DO.
It hasn’t looked like it for quite some time, but our nation was intended to be “by the people, of the people, for the people.”
As opposed to Big Oil, Big Drugs, Wall Street, Bush family, Cheney family, etc.
I’m ready to take it back–how about you people? Mudpuppies?

11 10 2008
votepalin

General question to the Alaskans.

Just watched the Philly Flyers video. First, what makes Palin think that she’d get a better reception on SNL (if she really is appearing). Second, why is she (and Todd) dragging those children all over the place? Is school out in Wasilla? Or is this part of their home schooling? It’s weird: Those children should be in school.

11 10 2008
foofighter

Issue: During the joint judiciary committee meeting yesterday, special investigator Steve Branchflower mentioned the need to supoena Murlene Wilkes, the owner of Harbor Adjustors, who has a contract with the State of Alaska to process claims for workers compensation.

Branchflower said there appears to have been some pressure put on the company from the governor’s office to deny Trooper Wooten’s workers compensation claim. The admission came from an employee of Harbor Adjustors, who apparently refused to go along with the pressure to deny the claim.

Fact: This is an email I received on August 18:

Item that may be of small interest to you, the ADN has had it for a week and done zero with it.

Officer Wooten had a workers comp claim on a back injury that went through Harbor Adjustors (Murlene Wilkes). Skinny is that the Gov’s office advised his claim should be denied.

Gave the claim office photos of the officer on a snowmachine (undated/Palin-family taken shots)

HA handed it over to legal to handle (Murlene didn’t want to get in the middle of what was obviously something personal, and as her only source of income is with a vindictive State gov contract, doesn’t want to come out on this issue).

End of day, Wooden got pennies on the dollar for his claim, they wouldn’t even pick up for the chiropractor.

11 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

SC Strike Chipper Palin–I am with you. With rights come responsibilities. People want this done and that done, well, it can’t be done without taxes. If La
Palin really doesn’t believe in taxes, then she shouldn’t try to be Veep as we pay the Veep’s salary.

11 10 2008
proudgranny

So if Palin/Mc Cain win will Todd be “The Second Gentleman” and a shadow VP of the USA? Wouldn’t the Alaskan Independence Party be ” just over the moon” about that?
What on earth is the matter with such a large part of this American population who have become Palin groupies? Alas unless “Regis , Ophra & even Martha” will address the concerns that have arisen in her “executive experience” I am afraid they will remain blissfully ignorant .
As a former executive myself “experience” only counted if it was a positive experience. That’s why you get references. Seemingly Sarah’s experience includes the “Bridge to Nowhere” a true embarrasment& she now has a “Road to Nowhere.” Her firing the Chef at the Governor’s mansion may be a true Tax payer savings but she & her family seem to have spent little time there, .. is it 319 nights in her own home for which she claimed a per diem allowance. Perhaps they could rent out the governor’s mansion. The charge for Rape kits is another not so positive item & then there is the Newsweek article about this $500,000,000 Pipeline deal she signed that may never come to fruition as they have not gotten agreement from the Canadian Indians to cross their land. She had this great sports arena built but didn’t have clear title to the property before they built it costing additional big money. Then there are her associations with the Alaskan Independence Party, a successionist party to which hubby Todd was a card carrying member, who also claim credit for getting “our girl” elected. Are there any real accomplishments in her political career? I have to admit I cringe everytime someone justifies their support because ” she has executive experience”.
There are still a large number of American’s who want her as VP & possibly even President as she is”fresh, unadulterated and a good Christian” . I actually know one of these people & I think she is a decent, intelligent person.
So pray for Obama/Biden. I am not sure they deserve the mess they will inherit but the thought of Sarah ( & Todd) a heart beat from the Presidency is just too frightening for me.

11 10 2008
Jingo Killah

The spine cartoon reminded me – I love playing with the Internet Anagram Server with people’s names. Barack Hussein Obama is an anagram for “Samurai Has Backbone”. Oddly appropriate.

11 10 2008
Southernbelle

The bombing that Rep Lewis alluded to was the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963. Four little girls were killed. It was a horrific event. I was in Junior High School at the time in Mobile, Alabama and it was one of the turning points of the Civil Rights Movement.

Hate speech can lead to violence. I think it’s good though that Obama is remaining very cool in the face of it. It’s best to throw ice water on these rabid dawgs.

11 10 2008
Big Al from LV, Nv

Knowing the history of presidential and presidential candidate assasinations in this country- Abraham Lincoln, JFK, RFK- why haven’t the preachers Jerry Falwell
James Dobson, and Pat Robertson called for the resignation of Sarah Palin for inciting her supporters to demand for the head of Barack Obama? Unless these preacher-students of American political history are the all-knowing puppetmasters pulling the same strings of “treason charges” that preluded the assasination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas.

11 10 2008
SMR

Not everybody is going to be on board with the paying taxes is patriotic thing, but I’m okay with it. I’ve never felt that I don’t get my money’s worth. School for my children, roads, water, electricity, etc etc. Granted, I pay additional money for all of that stuff in the form of property taxes & monthly fees for the utilities, but I’ve never felt it’s not worth it, and so I don’t have, and never did have, a problem at all with Biden’s statement.

Frankly, we don’t have to worry about being taxed more under Obama, as we are well under the $250k per year. But I DO have a huge problem with the big corporations & the extremely wealthy who seem to have a million ways to avoid paying their fair share. I seriously doubt that they are paying the 27% that our household does (at least I think that’s the percentage we are paying — we’ve had them prepared by someone else for years now). And WTF is the deal with all of those jobs being sent overseas? More taxes for those companies? Now you’re talking Obama/Biden!!!! We have been waiting for over a month for a letter from Nissan so that we can take our truck into Canada — it is allegedly on its way FROM INDIA. My husband, who is a really mellow guy, nearly blew a gasket trying to get the idiot on the phone to admit to him that this letter he’d been waiting for was coming from someone in India. ARGH!!!!

If they (GOP) don’t want to call paying taxes patriotic, then what do they want to call it? Socialist? If you don’t do it because you love your country (patriotic), then you are doing it because you HAVE TO (socialist). Make up your mind you stupid a$$hole GOP wankers!

12 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

why haven’t the preachers Jerry Falwell
James Dobson, and Pat Robertson called for the resignation of Sarah Palin for inciting her supporters to demand for the head of Barack Obama?

Well, Falwell is dead. Robertson is probably still obsessing over why hurricanes have failed to wipe out the gay populations of coastal cities and Dobson is much more interested in maintaining the sanctity of America’s heterosexual marriages than anything else.
At least, that’s my take on it.

12 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

Also, they just don’t care. It is much more important to get a crazed evangelical crony into office than to worry about the safety of some Arab Muslim terrorist outsider, don’t cha know?

12 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

Thanks so much for the Anagram site, Jingo Killah! I used my non-Palin name and wound up with “Claim Smarmy Nun” which I thought was pretty hilarious for a former Catholic who spent 8 years in the clutches of the nuns at Immaculata School (and one particularly smarmy one!)
I needed that laugh!

12 10 2008
DR

DR (04:00:17) :

I have a question for all you GREAT Alaskans.

HAS ANYONE BEEN ENCOURAGED TO FILE A LAW SUIT AGAINST SP??

It really doesn’t matter what type of law suit it is or who files it. What does matter is that there be a current law suit (maybe even 2) hanging over the head of the candidate for V.P. of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The implications of that on the campaign would, I believe, be very significant. I can’t even imagine ANY voter in America possibly voting for a candidate who is under the cloud of litigation that could result in impeachment, a large civil penality, or even further criminal charges.

If I was an Alaskan, I’d be at the courthouse at 9 AM on Tuesday morning (that’s only because Monday is Columbus Day) filing as many law suits as I possibly could. COME ON FOLKS!!!!! THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!!

Besides, it will be most interesting to see how Sen. McCain, the McCain campaign, the RNC, and the Conserative Base of the party reacts to their V.P. candidate having been charged with serious crimes in a court of law. Especially 3 weeks before election day.

Is there anyone reading this who is going to take the ball and run with it????? This is a one in a lifetime opportunity to settle this matter once and for ALL.

PLEASE, DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!

12 10 2008
The Quiet One

My very favorite part of Joe’s call-out was taking off his jacket and rolling up his sleeves as he said it!!! The image presented (not blantantly stated) was just too perfect!!!

12 10 2008
Anonymous

I agree, I wish that I was an Alaskan myself…I would also be filing a lawsuite against Ms. Thang for all her shady dealings. I think this is a mess that she has caused and clearly can not be trusted. I mean how can Alaskans trust this woman going forward..she always does what is in her best interest and it is sickening. I know that she is coming back to Alaska sooner than later…I think you all should stick the heat under her butt!!! I would hope that she does not come home to open arms…I mean you all elected her because she claimed that she would be honest and transparent and she lied.she is not the person that she saidd that she was….she is a liar a cheater, and theif all of these things…this disqualifies her as the governor of the state of Alaska….I think you all should get together and file a lawsuite against this trick

12 10 2008
Laura Lee aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin

I broke down and decided to find my Palin name…I’m a Krinkle Bearcat! Lovely.

SMR, you’re right on the nose regarding the loop holes for the rich. Those types of folks are manipulators who hide their profits. The problem is WE don’t have those options. Maybe we all need to become entrepreneurs and start deducting loses, expenses, etc. so that we don’t have to pay ANY taxes. I do realize though that some people are still honest and don’t have a problem supporting their country.

Personally I’m too busy coloring the world and spreading happy to bother with finagling my taxes.

12 10 2008
mongoliangirl

He didn’t point at his chin, but he did rip his suit coat off and I kept thinking he was going to start rolling up his sleeves like he was preparing for a street fight. Am I wrong for saying I would be completely OK with Biden popping PAINlin right in the mouth? Can I get away with saying that because I’m a woman? Because I’m a woman who thinks, “You know what chick? You know what? You wanna talk like that you better be prepared!”

14 10 2008
tr.gg

thanks. super site

14 10 2008
jrcintexas

Not that I’m one of those “breed specific” dog haters or anything but, has anyone else considered just how truly befitting the pitbull analogy Palin gave herself actually is? When you consider the reputation that the pitbull has developed…untrustworthy, will turn on you without a moments notice, no loyalty to the hand that feeds it, does this not sound like the Sarah Palin we’ve all had the misfortunes of becoming aquainted with. I actually think she’s given the poor pitbulls of the world an even worse name than they already seemed to have just by the comparison alone! Animal rights activists should get involved and demand she disassociate herself with pitbulls and offer the poor dogs a public apology! Pitbulls against Palin!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!

14 10 2008
PDXChick

Anonymous (12:06:20) “…They’ve just put their McCain/Palin sign out on the lawn….here in liberal, blue state Oregon!”
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I know several women who are voting for McPit because ‘we need a woman in high office, and Palin is our chance!!’

I’m mortified.

14 10 2008
PDXChick

LOL Mongoliangirl! Maybe if Palin keeps opening her mouth and going against McCain’s platform (we all know his temperament!), we’ll see the lipstick-smear evidence on his fist instead of Biden’s.




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