Live Blogging the Second Presidential Debate

7 10 2008

Click HERE to join the Mudflats chat!  Chat starts at 4:45 Alaska time (8:45 EST, 5:45 PST), 15 minutes prior to the debate.

I’ll be live blogging right here.

Tom Brokaw.  Red tie.

McCain.  Red tie.

Obama.  Blue tie.

Economic question first. No surprise.

Obama is looking good. Confident.  Bush-McCain connection. No regulation.  Need strong oversight.  Cracking down on CEOs. No golden parachutes.  Middle class needs a rescue package. Lower taxes, infrastructure to create jobs, healthcare, energy. Lobbyist jab.

McCain: Town Hall meeting jab.  Americans are angry upset and fearful.  I hava a plan.  It’s energy independence!  Keep taxes low.  Stop spending spree.  Don’t raise taxes on anyone.  Home values continue to decline. We need to buy the bad mortagaes and renegotiate for the new values.  “My friends”  “My friends.”  He seems really tired.

Q. Who would be treasury secretery

McCain:  Warren Buffett.  Meg Whitman….Ebay!  What ever happened with that jet…?

Obama:  Warren Buffet. 

Q. What’s going to help people with the bailout?

McCain:  Greed, excess, Wall street, Main St.  He’s talking about suspending his campaign!  Sheesh.  Thought he’d want to forget about that.  Obama and cronies encouraged risky loans.  “Some of us stood up two years ago”  Democrats defended Fannie & Freddie. )Yup, it’s all the democrats’ fault.  He ought to watch that 13 minute video on the Keating Five.  He’d find that very informative).

Obama:  Businesses can’t get loans, can’t meet payroll. Could have adverse affect on everyone.  We shouldn’t have been there in the first place.  Correct McCain’s history. (Thank you)  Deregulation.  McCain bragged about being a deregulator.  Obama wrote to Paulson and told them we had to deal with it.    Confident about economy but we need new regulatory system. Need to help ordinary families stay in their home.  Change culture of Washington.

McCain:  If we stabilize housing market by buying up bad loans, and get rid of croneyism and special interest in Washington we can fix our economy.  Some reference to a letter that Obama didn’t sign….  We’ve got the best workers in the world (aka fundamentals).

Q. How can we trust either candidate when both parties have gotten us in this mess.

Obama:  Understand frustration, but Bush came in with a surplus. McCain voted for 4 of 5 Bush budgets.

McCain: System is broken.  I’ve always been a reformer.  I have worked with Feingold, Lieberman.  Obama has never taken on his party.  Liberal big spenders…Obama $860 billion of new spending.  He wants earmarks, he wants to spend your money.  He wants to spend money on a planetarium in Illinois!  I know how to fix everything.  Energy Energy.

Brokaw:  What will be your highest priority:  health care, energy, social sec. & medicare.

McCain: Work on all three at once.  “My friends” (3).  Ronald Reagan.  I reach across the aisle.  Feingold, Lieberman…again.  Let’s build lots of nuclear power plants!  Alternative energy.  He’s getting all breathy like his running mate.  We have to do them all at once.

Obama: We have to prioritize.  Energy, we have to deal with today.  Invest $15billion per year for 10 years, and we can be free from foreign oil.  If we decide to do it we can.  #2 is healthcare.  #3 is education.  We need to look at our records.  Go line by line through the budget.  We also have to look where tax revenues are going.  McCain wants to continue Bush tax cuts plus billions more in cuts to corporations.

Q.  We haven’t been asked to sacrifice anything since WWII.  What will you ask the country to sacrifice?

McCain:  Defense spending.  Spending freeze, except for defense and veteran’s affairs. Establish transparent process.  We can do two things at once.  We’re not rifle shots, we can do everything.

Obama: 9/11…we were all ready to come together.  We were unified.  Bush said “Go out and shop.”  That’s not what the American people were looking for.  America is hungry for leadership.  We need to think about how we use energy.  We need oil and offshore drilling. We need to develop clean coal. But we can start thinking about how we save energy in our homes, and in our cars.  Fuel efficient cars made in the U.S.  Will require effort from everyone.  Young people want to serve.  Double the peace corpt.  Volunteer corps, military service.  Requires leadership from Washington.

(finger cramp break)

McCain and Brokaw are wearing the exact. same. tie.

My friends (4)  Obama is like Hoover.  His tax plan is like nailing Jell-O to the wall.  No laughter.  Obama’s secret is that his tax increases will increase taxes on small business revenue.  They’ll have to cut jobs and won’t be able to hire anyone.  “I got some news (looks at Obama).  The economy is bad.”  He did the little air punch and got breathy again.  He’s been takin’ some lessons from the Hockey Mom.

Obama wants to address the tax accusations.

Q.  Social Security and Medicaire.

Obama:  Need to take on entitlements quickly.  Will do it in my first term.  We’re not going to solve SS & medicare unless we fix the tax plan. Will provide tax cut for 95% of all Americans.  If you make less than $250,00 a year, your taxes will go down.  Vast majorities of small businesses make less than that.  McCain’s cuts are not fair and they don’t work.  Brings it nicely back to Medicare and Social Security.

McCain:  More air punches and shifting around.  What’s next, winking??  More Tip O’Neil and Reagan.  My friends (5&6)  Look at our records. My friends (7).  More folksy hand gestures.

Q.  Climate change and green jobs.

McCain:  We’re in tough economic times.  We’re struggling.  I disagree with the Bush administration.  Lieberman again.  The best way to fix this is nuclear power.  It’s safe and its clean and creates hundreds of thousands of jobs.  The French do it.  Alternative energy, hybrids, hydrogen, we can do it.

Obama:  Biggest challenges of our time.  Critical we understand the challenge and the opportunity.  We can create 5 million new jobs easily. Engine for new economic growth.  This is a national security issue.  Solar, wind, geothermal.  Favor nuclear power as one component.  McCain and I agree on something….problem is that for 30 years politicians have done nothing.  But he’s been there for 26 of those years and voted against alternative energy many times.  3% of oil reserves, and use 25% of the world’s oil.  We can’t drill our way out of the problem.  We can export our own innovation.

McCain:  My friends (8).  There was a bill full of goodies.  Know who voted for it?  “Than one” (points at Obama).  Drill drill drill!!  National security.  Oil! Drill!  We’ve got to drill!  Drill offshore!  Drill NOW!!!

Obama talking about his healthcare plan.  McCain is sort of wandering around grinning at the audience…

McCain:  Obama will fine you if you don’t insure your children.  He will fine you if you are a small business and you don’t insure your employees. ???  People want to shop around.  Gold Cadillac healthcare…like hair transplants.  O.M.G.  He did a hair plug jab at Biden????  Man…  What a *bleep*.

Obama:  Healthcare should be a right.  In a country as wealthy as this, there’s something wrong with not covering people.  Clarifying McCain’s blizzard of misinformation.  You will have to make sure your child has healthcare.  McCain voted against children’s health care.  It’s true I think gov’t should crack down on insurance companies cheating. 

Q.  How will we be peacemakers in the world?

McCain: My friends (9).  We are peacemakers and peace keepers.  We’ve shed blood for other countries. I have knowledge, experience, judgment, terrorism.  Lebanon, Kosovo, first Gulf War. Obama was wrong about the surge, Russia, doesn’t understand.  No time for on the job training. My friends (10)

Obama: Bad judgment on Iraq, greeted as liberators.  Wrong judgment.  Spending $10billion a month in Iraq.  We need to spend this at home.  Darfur. Bush-McCain policies has not worked.

My friends (11)

My friends (12)  Wow.  I guessed 8.

McCain:  Our foreign policy requires a cool hand at the tiller.  (I think he has just endorsed Obama!!) 

We need to talk softly and carry a big stick.  Obama is announcing he wants to attack Pakistan.

Obama: Never said attack Pakistan.  Said take out bin Laden.  McCain sang Bomb Bomb Iran.  That’s not speaking softly.

McCain:  I’ll take out bin Laden.  I was only joking with a friend about Iran…

Q.  How do you reorganize Afghanistan.

Obama:  Withdraw troops from Iraq responsibly.  Move them to Afghanistan. Met with Karzai.  He needs to be more responsive to the Afghan people.

McCain: Petraeus.  I’ve talked to him.  Double size of Afghan army.  Some of what Sen. Obama said was right.  Won’t admit he was wrong on Iraq surge.  He’s getting all wound up.  Seems frustrated.

Q. Russia

McCain:  Long ago I warned about Vladimir Putin.  Looked in his eyes and saw 3 letters – K-G-B.  Distancing himself from the Bush-Putin lovefest.   Putin has his eye on Ukraine.  They need to be in NATO.  Naked agression into Georgia.  No more Cold War but Russia is a challenge.

Obama:  Agree with McCain for the most part.  We also need to provide financial and concrete assistance to help Georgia and others to rebuild their economy.

Q.  What would we do if Iran attacked Israel? (from Navy guy in audience).

McCain:  Pats him on back and shakes his hand, thanks him for service.  Obama would sit down without preconditions…  (Looks like we’ll have to go through all this again….) 

Obama:  Thanks guy for service.  No military options off the table. No veto power to the U.N.  Must use all tools at disposal to prevent that scenario.  Not talking led Iran to centrifuges and N. Korea to nukes.

Obama:  Warm fuzzy closing statement. 

McCain:  Warm fuzzy closing statement. 

Cindy McCain in blue, Michelle Obama in red. 

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McCain seemed much more tense.  He was very wound up.  Obama seemed unflappable.  The foreign policy was more of the last debate.  Nothing nes, and no real surprises here. 

They both seemed very comfortable in the format overall. 

There was no gotcha moment.  There was no bursting into flames for either candidate.  But, I’ve got to give this to Obama on policy, on coolness, on composure.  When McCain’s voice gets all tight, and especially when he pointed to Obama and said “That one!”, he flew right in the face of his own acknowledgement that “you need a cool hand on the tiller.”  That’s the line that blew me away.  It may haunt him.  And the fact that McCain wouldn’t shake hands….


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733 responses

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

@Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)
From the last thread…. I wish I could see a video of the exchange in that garage. Thanks for posting that It was great. Got me out of my bad mood I was in.

7 10 2008
galwhohashadenough!

Here’s a link to donate to Obama tonight: DONATE TO OBAMA/BIDEN IN HONOR OF TONIGHT’s DEBATE.’

KO is getting me out of my bad mood. Thank you Keith for being so straight forward and not beating around the bush about this nonsense of a election.

Donate Volunteer Vote
YES WE CAN!!!

7 10 2008
Gina

Hi all – looking forward to some good company again tonight!

7 10 2008
galwhohashadenough!
7 10 2008
Dal

Hi Mudflatters….TX reporting!

7 10 2008
Dal

My wife & will be donating $10 each to Sen. Obama each time McSame mentions the words: ‘maverick’ or ‘change’

7 10 2008
fakename2

I regret that I will not be able to participate, since like I presume you did for the last debate, I’ll be playing the debate drinking game and will be drunk by 9:10 P.M. EDT🙂 Hello all from Florida…

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

Wow, Dal, you might end up funding the last month of the Obama campaign!

7 10 2008
galwhohashadenough!

Hearty hand claps to DAL!!

7 10 2008
catz from wisc

Dal I hope you have alot of funds!

7 10 2008
Ginny

I like the idea … I’ll do the same $10.00 for each “maverick” or “change” and many thanks for this blog.

7 10 2008
Shove Maggot Hussein Palin aka the problem child

Checking in…

7 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

NC in for a bit!

7 10 2008
Dal

Thanks catz from wisc. We’re prepared; esp if Sen. Kicks some bu…..!

7 10 2008
Dal

If Senator big O kicks……….

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Dunno if I can stomach the whole debate, but I will donate $10 for every ‘my friends’.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Hey Gang! SOOO glad I finally got my wireless up and running again so I can join you here! Looking forward to sharing in the fun with all of you this evening!

7 10 2008
Anonymous

Any good weblinks for those of us without cable?

7 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Dal & Fake name–

I like BOTH ideas!

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Okay, I’m ready! My hubby and son are about to desert me, so if not for the mudflatters, I’d be all alone. I’m hoping to watch McCain’s head explode! And I will be making a donation to Senator Obama tonight as well.

7 10 2008
Dal

Thanks for the support Ginny. Pliz help keep count.

7 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Anon–

Just under the thread into is a link to watch…

7 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

into = intro

7 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Chicago here. I need to donate one more time – so I’ll play the game, too.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

The debate itself will be on network TV. As for the pre-debate stuff, dunno. I try to ignore the blathering as much as possible.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

I can’t afford to donate much to President Obama, but will ante up $5 for every time McLiar directly LOOKS AT or ADDRESSES Obama.

ps proud to be in the Land of Lincoln..AND Obama!!! : )

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

1 My Friends= 1 Beer

is that algebra?😉

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Hello All!

I’m staying on this thread tonight rather than the chat so I can concentrate more on the debate. Blessings to all you Mudpuppies!

7 10 2008
fakename2

Uh oh, I feel myself being drawn in. I think I’ll donate $10 every time I hear “terrorists” and $20 when I hear “domestic terrorists”…

7 10 2008
Dal

Anonymous, usually http://www.CNN.com/pipeline shows the debates.

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

Wisconsin here!!!!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Can’t WAIT to see the steam shooting out of McSame’s ears!!! Watching him TRY not to blow his top!!! Wheeee!!!

7 10 2008
Irish

Dal (16:42:13) :

My wife & will be donating $10 each to Sen. Obama each time McSame mentions the words: ‘maverick’ or ‘change’

Ginny (16:48:47) :

I like the idea … I’ll do the same $10.00 for each “maverick” or “change” and many thanks for this blog.
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WOW!! hope you three have lots of funds………if I did I’d certainly join you…
do plan to donate but can’t afford that (in Florida…turning blue by the way…YESSSS…..with limited funds!!!!)…….

Go “O”……………

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

@BullwinkleCringing, I think you should be doing it incremetially proportional. First time, one beer. Second time, two beers. Third time, three beers, and so on. By the end of the night. McCain may actually not look so bad–no, can’t say it.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

I’m on a fixed income and am rather unable to do a $30 contribution. I like to give $10 at a time, when I can afford it. I will find the link to do that tonight, as I believe in Obama/Biden with all my spirit. (I contracted bronchitis after the Kerry campaign.)

7 10 2008
Juneau girl

Got the beer. Got the chips. Got the blog. READY! Can’t wait.

7 10 2008
Dal

Just confirmed that CNN will be showing the debate @ http://www.cnn.com/pipeline

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

BullwinkleCringing, incrementally. Man, i’m already twisted up!

7 10 2008
judi hussein

Hello everyone

7 10 2008
Dal

Here it starts. Good luck to Sen. Obama!

7 10 2008
Anonymous

Thanks Cassie!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Obama should just wisper “how’s it going SONGBIRD” in McCains ear at the hand shake. THat will freak him out and he will BLOWUP GOOD LOL

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Annnnd we’re off!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

OH NO!!! McLiar has another BLINDINGLY striped tie on again!!!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

No, he should whisper “How’s it going, shortie”?

7 10 2008
joy - fl

Hi all from BLUE Florida

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Our guy is just so dam smart!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Can he get any closer to the audience?

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

t-t-t-night…McLiar choking on his words already…

7 10 2008
Sandie

oh good grief, did you hear McCain drop the g on going?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

reform – drink

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Did McCain just say “gonna”?

7 10 2008
jo in AK

He’s beginning to sound like Sarah…

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

my friends……… x2

7 10 2008
jo in AK

His tie has a hypnotic message going on…

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

He makes no sense.

My friends…
no he doesn’t
my friends.

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

I am only getting to listen — did McC LOOK at Obama ?

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

One! (My friends)

He can be folky

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

MY FRIENDS!! MY FRIENDS!! EVERYBODY DRINK!!! TWO MY FRIENDS BACK TO BACK!!!

7 10 2008
Blue in MT

WTF? Not you Tom?

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing
7 10 2008
dogfish

mccain, what is yr plan?

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Heard the part about “TOWN MEETING” something McWhiney has been whining about the last months

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

home values are not the problem – it is the credit default swaps (insurance on debts that have nothing behind them)

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Damn.

I missed one!

I don’t think his stuttering should count.

7 10 2008
shannynmoore

I’m going to get drunk if I have to drink for every “my friends”

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

12 My Friends limit tonight thats all I got

7 10 2008
Spoon Archer Hussein Palin

Er, Meg Whitman to lead the treasury? OMFG NOOOOOOO!

7 10 2008
Sandie

have confindence, and trust me, I have no plan… McCain

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

ebay just slashed their payroll by 10%. Today…

7 10 2008
shannynmoore

Tom and John must have called each other on what to wear

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

bail out = rescue? Yeah sure.

7 10 2008
LaNon

His phraseology and tone reminded me of Pain — we gotta cut taxes–his inflection has been palinized

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

suspended?

7 10 2008
cmac

I cannot believe he is crowing about his suspended campaign

7 10 2008
Sandie

payin’…. I can’t take it!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Someone should tell McCain to stand up – oh, wait, he is standing!

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

HE LEFT HIS CAMPAIGN ???????

Does he think we are dolts?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

the Bailout Plan money is going to cover the Wall Street derivatives and credit default swap risk – NOT buying actual real estate

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Why does he keep telling the same lies? Oooooh, thinly-veiled….wait, does he really want to bring up Fannie and Freddie pork?

7 10 2008
cmac

Perhaps mccain is forgetting his ties to Fannie and Freddie

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Lied on Freddie and Fannie/ yes I have heard of them, east coast don’t cha know. Lies and more lies.

Yes, and you did not.

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

The smirk

7 10 2008
LaNon

OH HAI–I’m in a nice hotel bar near the San Fran Airport, watching with bus travelers –inc out of an d from cali. today ebay cut 1600 jobs right here on the peninsula.
So surrounded by a focus group, area is generally dem

LaN

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Geez — Fannie & Freddie hurt – but not as much as all that bundling!!!!!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

the Federal Reserve is now (as of today) going to be the bank window for small business commercial paper – wow – this is a complete new rethink of capitalism

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

McCain working his jaw muscles..steam to follow soon…

7 10 2008
Bev

McCain ain’t my friend, fersure!

7 10 2008
cmac

Just on ability to coherently answer the question, Obama is winning

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Ooooh, tread lightly, Obama. Keep it strong, but not slimy or whiny.

Damn. Obama is so smart.

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

does anyone know if all networks are using the same cameras? I’m watching MSNBC & CNN, back & forth… just went to the local ABC outlet, and the angle looked different, but there was more delay, and there very well could have been cut.

They are moving around so much…. I’m just wondering if camera angle may influence reading of the debate.

Chris

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

LaNon (17:14:53) :

OH HAI–I’m in a nice hotel bar near the San Fran Airport, watching with bus travelers –inc out of an d from cali. today ebay cut 1600 jobs right here on the peninsula.
So surrounded by a focus group, area is generally dem

LaN
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LOL – and McGoo used eBay as an example of what we are doing right!

7 10 2008
plwalsh

McCain is starting to drop his g’s like Palin.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

I REALLY DO want to see the steam come out of his ears!

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

ooh it depends on what we do… uh… no duh.

7 10 2008
LaNon

McLame

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

I need a drink every time he says “special interest” grrrrr — wish I wasn’t at work

7 10 2008
cmac

Keep talking about cronies. McCain is the epitome of a “crony”, and he looks it.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Damn! Another my friend. Three so far. Bull on the import/export!

7 10 2008
marksmyword

Hubby and I are doing the $10.00 per ‘my friend’. McSame creeps me out.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Just so smart..man, he’s just our guy.

7 10 2008
shannynmoore

somewhere a bridge is missing its troll. Mccain is creeping me out. Which one of his houses is he worried about loosing?

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

best at exporting those jobs right out of the country

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Here we go..American workers are the best workers in the world..yeah, and you’ve taxed us to death AND wiped out our 401 K’s…A$$ holz!!!

7 10 2008
LaNon

this bar (SilVal/SF area) seems to have people who hate both of them and think they both f’ed up economy. they laugh at both, but inclined to obama at this early point–think both messed up on fan and fred

lan

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McGoo – this money is not really going to “buy up” the bad mortgages! It is going to cover the derivatives on those mortgages! And each Credit Default Swap instrument will take a team of lawyers to settle!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/05/60minutes/main4502454.shtml

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Ya know he (She-McCain) has one for sale — something like 13Mil

7 10 2008
LaNon

he’s losing it–not tracking
spazzing out

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Um, because we’ve been right???????

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Priorties: working for you.

McCain has supported deregulation of banks throughout his career. Ever.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

OK…consistant reformer…betcha he won’t say Maverick, not after Joe Biden tore him a new one over THAT in the VP debate!!!

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Yes – Look at YOUR record McC

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

LIE!
LIE!
LIE!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Axe Diesel Palin (17:18:50) :

Here we go..American workers are the best workers in the world..yeah, and you’ve taxed us to death AND wiped out our 401 K’s…A$$ holz!!!
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AMEN

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

And WHO voted 90% of the time with BUSH ????? Huh ??

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

and this is where the republicans are supposed to shine???

Ha!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Forget about steam from his ears–look at the steam from MY ears!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

MY FRIENDS!!!

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

Is anyone else watching on CNN?? Every time Barack speaks the graph is near the roof. Every time Mc speaks, it flatlines.

7 10 2008
cmac

seriuosly, asaiangrrl! im steamin too!

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Glad I am not drinking after “my friends”. I would be done…

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Very True Axe – am in Mutuals rather than stock – but still waiting to see what I lost

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Droney Croney – dropping g’s and saying ya and ta instead of you and to.

My friends, this guy really makes my skin crawl – my nostrils are flaring.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Hamelts, all lies all the time.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

oh God – eliminating pork barrel spending – McGoo DELUDED LIAR!

“I know how” – DRINK

“My friends” – DRINK

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

oh he can multi-task this week???

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Damn. How many my friends is that?

7 10 2008
cmac

how many “my freinds” so far. I’m up for the 10 per instance too

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

Mccain bitches about pork-barrel spending on projects that **I KNOW** have really helped econ. development in a lot of rural areas. Probably the $3mil projector did the same thing for the observatory in chicago. It’s not like you can just get one of those at bestbuy.

7 10 2008
Bea

DId McIsane get some spray-on hair? He looks like he had more… or maybe they just put loks of silicone on his remaining wispy strands.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

I know, the steam is coming out of my ears too!

What is the graph on CNN? I don’t have it! I’m watching with rabbit ears here!

7 10 2008
plwalsh

McCain seems so old in this format.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

OOOH we can work on all 3 at once?!?!? But not on 2 things at once, like campaigning AND solving the economic crisis?!?! YEAHRIGHTSURE My friends!

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

all the my-friends drinking game folks should already be under the table!!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

6 My Friends so far…I’m keeping track!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Six or seven my friends? There’s terrorist.

Wisconsin shopgirl, keep thoseo of us without cable apprised of the weird line things at the bottom.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

None of which he has supported in the Senate. He’s a liar. I don’t why I watch this at all. Liars and liars…it’s disgusting, and I refuse to watch this crap again.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

LaNon (17:21:29) :

he’s losing it–not tracking
spazzing out
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Honestly – he ofen blanks out

7 10 2008
Spoon Archer Hussein Palin

If I take a swallow for every “my friend” the horses are going to starve tonight. I’ll be too drunk to make it safely down to the barn and back. Glug glug glug.

7 10 2008
LaNon

OK
heard boo coo “asshole” proclaimed toward McPain across the bar with the view of the bar.

normally rich mannered clientele on good behavior.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

T’anks, Axe Diesel Palin. I wanna make sure Obama gets all the money he deserves for having to pu up with this fool.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

All right! The JFK/moon reference in regards to the energy solution…love it!!!

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Alright – knock him down!!!

7 10 2008
lonewolf a.k.a. Luger Otter Palin

Is it my imagination, or is McCain starting to sound a bit ‘breathless’ in his replies?? A sure sign of nervousness.

McCain is sure being condescending to those asking questions .. and I think if I hear him say ‘my friends’ one more time, I’m gonna scream.

Obama clearly has the calm, professional demeanor. And I’m glad he’s calling McCain to task for those outlandish comments he’s making. But again, he’s doing it in a very proper, professional tone.

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

On CNN, maybe it’s on HD tv’s, they’re showing uncomitted Ohio voters, men and women, reactions to the candidate’s answers realtime.

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Spoon Archer Hussein Palin (17:26:50) :

Maybe should just take SIPS sounds like he has lots of “MY FRIENDS” with every questions

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Bring the horses to the house to have a drink with you. It’ll be a celebration, my friend! (Does it count if I say it?)

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

love the old lady from chicago… my husband & I wonder about this too…

where is the sacrifice?

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Lighthouse, there is a graph on CNN that shows how different demographics respond to each candidate. I watched the first debate on CNN. It was weird.

Which is nothing! John, the defense is not off limits!

7 10 2008
nycer

why is mccain breathing so stertorously? is this too physically and emotionally taxing?

i’m afraid he’s not healthy enough to survive the debates much less any significant time in office

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

I was just thinking that, plwalsh. The stuttering and the repetition just makes me think, hey Grandpa, it’s past your bedtime.

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

f***ing hell, I thin that mccain misses the point… spending on gov’t level needs to GO UP when the economy tanks…

7 10 2008
cmac

transparency is NOT something mccain has been good at lately

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Someone should have chosen earmarks for a beermark.

7 10 2008
Sphinx

Checking in from Georgia, soon to be a blue state. How many times is he going to mention the overhead projector?????

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

and the individuals need to suck it up and grow their own gardens… come togther like obama just said.

7 10 2008
Laurie

Why does Brokaw always call time when its Obama who is speaking? I just dont trust him.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Thanks Asiangrrl!

I like the flatlining for McCain

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

This graph charting would be good for every person here in a relationship. Keep monitoring each others vibes. Don’t flat line…

7 10 2008
cmac

YES! FINALLY SOMEONE is talking about energy conservation. Of course it’s Obama.

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

oh yeah, and the “go out and shop…” thanks barack for reminding me of the idiocy of that!!!

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

I didn’t hear McCain answer the “sacrifice” question…
By the way, Aloha–I’m a newbie from the 50th state, Hawaii. I love your website and these live blogs!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

defence?????????????/ Already spend as much as the entire world all together. How many cluster bombs do you need? Or do his friends have armament companies he wants to further enrich? How about education and health?

7 10 2008
plwalsh

The “overhead projector” must have been a star projector for the Adler Planetarium, a major educational institution in Chicago.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

overhead projector? Damn he is old LOL

Must be a Planetarium Projector what a dumb ass just like his supporters

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

He’s so very calm and in control of his words. I like it

7 10 2008
debweb

Why is McCain taking so many notes? Makes me wonder if he has memory issues.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Actually, Obama seems better at this format than McCain. Obama is acting kind of creepy.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Lock Pepper Palin (17:32:27) :

I didn’t hear McCain answer the “sacrifice” question…
By the way, Aloha–I’m a newbie from the 50th state, Hawaii. I love your website and these live blogs!
—————————
Welcome Lock Pepper!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

many countries would consider ‘earmarks’ a form of socialism. ‘ a rose by any other name is still a rose.’

7 10 2008
Krystal

Do you think that people will notice or care that Mccain is saying the same exact things as last year? Like word for word….

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Nail’in Jell-O! ooooooooooooo

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Hmm…Brokaw IS wearing a red tie…MY FRIENDS!!! (#7)

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Yes, McCain, he wants to raise YOUR taxes!

7 10 2008
debweb

He said “my friends” again….

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

All he’s doing is attacking Obama! I’m steaming again. He does stutter a lot though!!!

7 10 2008
Laurie

I despise John McCain…he is a banty rooster strutting around . He is sickening

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

MY FRIENDS #8

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

he is breathless

my friends – drink

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

plwash, I think you mean Gramps.

BULL!

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

My dog! I’m just in wonder at that look of incredulity on Obama’s face from the McCain lie!

7 10 2008
Krystal

I mean last debate…

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Let’s raise!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

read up on Blowkra He is the go between Mc Campain and NBC

7 10 2008
whiskey tango foxtrot

huh? what is that graph about? not really getting that

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McGoo’s health plan is delusional

7 10 2008
Blue in MT

No wonder SWWNBN is on McCain’s side. How much will she get for each of her children?

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

taxes

7 10 2008
Laurie

Krystal….McCain never says anything new. Same shit different pile.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Just who exactly are ‘my friends’. From what I understand, those who are friends do indeed call him McNasty.

Tom Brokaw is NOT unbiased – and it is becoming very obvious.

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Brokaw is RUDE !!

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

I always liked Tom Brokaw until this election.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

McCain just said a whole lot of lies. Grrrrr. I can’t. Just can’t.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Obama is getting his tax plan in there anyway!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

BWAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAA!!! Same shit different pile!!!

7 10 2008
Laurie

I agree vlad…he is as biased as anyone could possibly be. Obama should do just as Palin did…and tell them he will say what he wants.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

the graph is a real time display of the reactions of a focus group – pulse, temperature, uh, blood flow i guess

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Actually, Obama seems better at this format than McCain. McCain is acting kind of creepy.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Brokaw = ‘in the tank’ for Grampy.

Axe Diesel Palin, keep countin’, my friend. I’m too mad to count.

7 10 2008
cmac

Brokaw is an ass

7 10 2008
NoCalGal

Obama is calm, direct and is mostly answering the questions. The prioritizing was RIGHT ON! Energy first! Healthcare second. Master plan to get off foreign oil. DO IT WITHIN 10 YEARS. That is what we need!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

And people laughed at Obama’s jab at Grampy. So there!

7 10 2008
Sandie

I am officially a bad mom, set my kids up with amovies and the xbox so I could watch this in peace. Glad I did.

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Thanks Hamlets Mill!

Could Tom Broken Jaw be any more biased?
I’m so proud of my man, Obama…he’s so smart and makes McCain look like a fool, my friends (DRINK!)

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

$300 BILLION TAX CUT to corporations..McShame!!! Tell it Barack!!!

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

Ooooh, creepy!!!!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

my friends #9…

7 10 2008
plwalsh

In all the pundit scorecards on CNN, Obama seems to be ahead this time.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Oh God – has Shortie inherited Dumbya’s wheezy laugh???? heheheheheheh

7 10 2008
Laurie

lol…graph took a nose dive when mccain said social security was easy to fix.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing
7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Love the graph!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

MinNJ Moose Roadster, stay with us.

Um, Social Security is easy?

STOP, asshole!

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

How many times has that “94” been debunked?

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Oh, mama, bring the coffin – grampy’s dying……………..

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

oohh, a three “my friend” answer!

7 10 2008
debweb

My friends. again… What number???

7 10 2008
Laurie

Mccain says…my record..earmarks…my record..my friends…my record…Obama bad…me good…my friends..energy…

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

I hope all of you drinking on “my friends” have a DD if you are out with others.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#10 my friends!!! Our best days are ahead of us!!!

Asian Hussein Grrl…please don’t be mad. Obama is going to WIN!!!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McCain is breathless

President Eisenhower said no man over 70 should EVER be President of the United States. Elect this ticket and Scara and The Todd are running the government of the United States. Air Craft Carrier Task Forces. Everything. OMG.

7 10 2008
cmac

Oh, mccain the greenie. Coudl he please bother to educate his running mate, and the effect of OIL on it.

7 10 2008
Laurie

climate change opposes???

7 10 2008
Hopeful

If it’s so easy to fix Social Security, why hasn’t Grampy fixed it already!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

I think I’m suffering from Electile Dysfunction.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Because I say it’s clean, it’s clean. I am McCain, and I approve this message.

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

oh, man, he’s tanking

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Joe Lib-lib-lib-EIBerman..and..and…I know…uh..my friends #11.

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

He keeps talking about Lieberman. I wonder how far into the wings he is?

7 10 2008
AnnaBanana

His breathing is freaking me out too

7 10 2008
norfroder

Mac is on the verge of a Stockdale moment.

7 10 2008
cmac

lol vlad!

by the way, I love you guys, and its not just the wine🙂

7 10 2008
OptimistInColorado

I am SO glad that I’m not playing a drinking game with the phrase “my friends”….I’d be on the floor by now.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Axe Diesel Palin! Noooooooooooo! No jinxing, but damn…..Obama is the MAN!

Vlad–you rock!

7 10 2008
AnnaBanana

Obama is so eloquent at communicating a vision

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Looks like they toned down the orange spray fake suntan..more of a pinkish tonight..

7 10 2008
debweb

Important point earlier by Obama– only a small percentage of businesses make more than $250,000 per year, which means many small businesses will get his tax cut too!!!

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

this debate is terrible.

listening to mccain is like listening to jr high girls make their catty comments.

obama hasn’t yet taken the bait and I comment him for taking the high road but I personally want to reach thru my television set and smack john mccain upside the head, and tell him to grow the bleep up and try counting to 10 before he opens his yap.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Why does McCain seem so creepy? He seems so proud of his own performance?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

NoCalGal (17:40:18) :

Obama is calm, direct and is mostly answering the questions. The prioritizing was RIGHT ON! Energy first! Healthcare second. Master plan to get off foreign oil. DO IT WITHIN 10 YEARS. That is what we need!
———————————
Exactly.

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Right – Lets build those in McC’s back yard

7 10 2008
LaNon

i’d like to go on the record as someone who LIKES the way they do politics in chicago. they get stuff done and that is why it is a great american city. i was there when daly overnight turned the private airport into a public park. ooops. i love chicago, friends in chicago-fun american city.

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

YAH–Computer–know what that is Grampy? It’s what Cindy turns on for ya’.
I cringed when he started with I agreed with McCain but he ended with a zinger!

We can’t drill our way out of the problem, Momma Sarah!

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Drill, not drill, baby.

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Drill drill drill? Does anyone remember Exxon Valdez?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin (17:46:37) :

this debate is terrible.

listening to mccain is like listening to jr high girls make their catty comments.

obama hasn’t yet taken the bait and I comment him for taking the high road but I personally want to reach thru my television set and smack john mccain upside the head, and tell him to grow the bleep up and try counting to 10 before he opens his yap.
———————————-
Tell us how you really feel! LOL!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

McCain taking notes: I hate this guy. I fricking hate this guy. I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy.

Nice, Obama.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

UGH that Brokaw is a jerk!

7 10 2008
Laurie

Brokaw…stfu

7 10 2008
Jo the Girl

Buffalo, NY here! McPalin, is NOT my friend!!! Let’s hear it for everyone kicking
in to do their part to save energy. I’m sitting here wishing the furnace was on, but, for the good of the country…. Power to the People!!!!!!!

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Which beach do you want to drill on? Daytona? Outer Banks? Cape Cod?

7 10 2008
Laurie

McCain is sucking up to brokaw. Pick me..pick me…I will be good. He is a weasel

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#12 my friends

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

debweb – mike huckabee debated in mccain’s sted at the PA Chamber of Business and Industry dinner in Harrisburg, pennsyltucky, last night and claimed to know of a trucker who makes over $250,000 per year. my bro-in-law spends 3 months at a time on the road but doesnt make half that much. yet, the mccainites keep on claiming that obama is out to “kill every small business in america.”

7 10 2008
Dal

Did you guys hear what McSame called Sen. Obama…that one!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

More beer he’s blathering

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

I’m John McCain…and I approved this lie!

7 10 2008
Hopeful

Don’t take the goodies kids!!!!

7 10 2008
lovethecounty

did he just point to obama and said ‘that one?’

7 10 2008
OptimistInColorado

“That one”? WTF was that?? Is it just me, or is McCain just tanking here?

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

The Ohio uncommitted voters are not buying this answer. Every time he disses Barack the graph goes way down.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

LaNon (17:47:00) :

i’d like to go on the record as someone who LIKES the way they do politics in chicago. they get stuff done and that is why it is a great american city. i was there when daly overnight turned the private airport into a public park. ooops. i love chicago, friends in chicago-fun american city.
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Mayor Daly really got out the vote in 1960…

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Pork and lies, baby, drill and supply just disproved by your better.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

WHOOPS #13 my friends..another double! DRILL BABY DRILL!!! Give those US OIL Co’s the $$$$!!! Wheeeeeeeee, a triple, MY FRIENDS!!! 14 now…

7 10 2008
Sphinx

WTH??? I want to see Brokaw try to shut McKeating up for once.

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

kimosabe – he wants to drill on maverick beach.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Four of the six pundits on CNN are giving McCain a zero or a negative number so far.

7 10 2008
Judy in Chicago

This back and forth he said – he said is driving me nuts I wanna slap the both of them.

JUST answer the questions.

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Axe Diesel Palin – It seems like he has said it more than 12 times.

7 10 2008
shannynmoore

what was that weird move? why is he lurking around? ewww.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

I’m in Chicago. Da Mare said about the ’68 convention re: da cops, “They’re not there to preserve the peace, they’re there to prevent it.” Ya gotta love it!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Who’s the little white-haired twerp shuffling around behind Obama trying to steal the limelight?

7 10 2008
kimosabe

what channels are we all watching? CNN here (love the squiggly lines)

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

what’s up with youse alls using hussein in your screen names???

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Manhattan Project versus a million garages is the stupidest question about technology development I’ve ever heard. Thanks, Tom. You have no f_ing idea what you are talking about.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

That one. Really. Classy, Grampy. Let’s see how else he works in that theme.

7 10 2008
Sandie

I find McCain’s wandering around during Obama’s answering very disrespectful. Anyone else?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Jo the Girl (17:48:26) :

Buffalo, NY here! McPalin, is NOT my friend!!! Let’s hear it for everyone kicking
in to do their part to save energy. I’m sitting here wishing the furnace was on, but, for the good of the country…. Power to the People!!!!!!!
————————————–
My furnace is on because my cat demands it.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Watching on PBS – no distractions

7 10 2008
Laurie

I cannot believe he referred to Obama as “that one”

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Did McCain really mean that nigger please excuse my language

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Go Barack!!!!!!!!!!!

7 10 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

I am so glad there are other people who get are tired of the geezer saying “my friends” he sounds like some old vampire.

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Sauerkraut its a badge of solidarity

7 10 2008
Laurie

Yes sandie…I do. but I find everything mccain does disrespectful

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

“that one” – that’s kind of a “Grampy” style statement

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Andrew Sullivan also thinks Obama is more effective than McCain in this format.

7 10 2008
debweb

Yes, he called Obama “THAT ONE.” Tacky. Condescending. He’s seething inside.

7 10 2008
LaNon

the old days in chicago.
the radicals out-lived him (1st mayor daly)
and thrive and are now worried
just like regular americans

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Me, Sandie. If I were in that audience, I would scream at him to get–wait, is he really dissing government, now?

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Grampy of the previous generation from McCain. Or do old folks inherit the fogginess?

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

ty, asianhusseingrrl, before I forget

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

That 5000 tax credit is such a horrible horrible plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

I rarely listen to McCain, and now I remember why. What a dick. He sounds like a dick.

I pay 750 a month just for myself. That 5000 is a real big deal, yah.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

bu-bu-bu-benefits. Moron.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McGoo – same Republican hysteria – the people that ran up the greatest two deficits EVER (the Gipper and the Killer Chimp)

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Yea – you just have to GO to AZ to get the ins. to PAY
Or they pay per the AZ rate – not the TN rate

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

UGH!!! Hair transplant remark…no one laughed.

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Right … lets give tax breaks to the Health Insurance executives whose bonuses are based on how many claims they deny. Free market!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

hair transplant – drink?

7 10 2008
Sandie

oh jeez, Mc’s health care plan scares me. Of course it is time for gov’t to get involved. Obviously the private sector hasn’t done a good job…

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Isn’t his time up?

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

5,000 tax credit won’t cut it, McLiar. Do the math, my friends.

Hair transplants? Was that a slap to Joe? Say it ain’t so! What about his Barbie wife’s BOTOX?

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Is anyone else watching on CNN? The lines go down when McCain speaks. They go up when Obama speaks. They seemed to like his health care plan better.

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Obviously he hasn’t personally paid any medical bills for a while.

7 10 2008
Sphinx

Ho w about a brain transplant to go with that hair transplant.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Come on Barak just call him songbird…..

7 10 2008
lovethecounty AKA Rust Hussein Palin

to somebody who asked about why using hussein in the names..just to say that we all are alike..Barack Hussein Obama comment by Palin has no effect on us

7 10 2008
Jo the Girl

I work in healthcare, insurance “choice” is a joke! How do you know if you should “choose” cancer or a stroke??????? MORON!!!

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

So, McCain doesn’t understand the concept of “responsibility”.

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Yeah watching the lines Steph

7 10 2008
Sandie

if they could!!!! parents can’t! I have so many friends here in Alaska that can’t afford healthcare, living without is terrifying.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

We are all called Hussein. Just as there are many Johns (and, boy, is McCain ever a typical John), there are many Husseins. Since McGroucho and the Wasilla Wriggler started insinuating that the name “hussein” was something ‘evil” (OOOOO – I’m sure spooked), we all decided to call ourselves Hussein – a good name.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Obama just said the the $5000 is nothing for small businesses. If they’re smart, they get it.

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Both candidates lines go down or flatline when they diss the other

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

RIGHT! YES, GODDAM IT!

7 10 2008
Hopeful

Help the uninsured and the underinsured. Leave my health care alone

7 10 2008
jo in AK

Obama is sounding really good now……. he’s seeming more confident…

7 10 2008
A Fan from Chicago

Half way through, Obama seems to me to be winning.

Calm, cool, confident and in full command of the issues.

“…Signed, sealed, delivered I’m yours…”

McCain fired off his best shots in the first debate. And the best he got was a draw.

Please God, stop saying “My Friends.”

Wht ever Palin does, what ever Mccain does, remember that these folks are talking to the undecides now.

Whoever is still undecided needs their pulse taken.

But if they’re ligitimately out there, how can there be a choice?

This debate is over.

But all of us should be concerned about the violent and racist tone that the Palin/Mccain campaign has fostered on the trail in the past few days.

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

twinkle-obviously not. Under McCain’s plan, we would be working for insurance. Seriously…we are not wealthy, but have a great insurance plan. That keeps my husband at his job, but it’s not cheap.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Hussein is a common name, like Joe or John.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

BWAA HAA HAAAA!!! Brain transplant!!! THAT with the assumption he has a brain to start with…

7 10 2008
Sandie

we have “good” health care and just got hit for $5000 for “uncovered procedures”. Husband had cancerous tumor removed. yeah, that was an optional thing, just leave it in there..

7 10 2008
plwalsh

This time, everyone seems to think McCain is losing.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Cheating insurance companies — Do it!

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Sum it up, baby. The truth hurts.

7 10 2008
kimosabe

omg the line maxxed out!

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

From the graph iot looks like the women pay the health care bills too.

7 10 2008
Emjay

I’m watching this alone and I keep giving McNasty rude gestures and calling him names I wouldn’t say in public. He makes me sick! He’s merely eight years older than I am, BUT he’s an old fart. Blink, blink, blink, blink – doesn’t he ever stop blinking. He must have forgotten Palin’s advice “never blink.” He walks like he has hemorrhoids!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Lock Pepper Palin (17:55:26) :

5,000 tax credit won’t cut it, McLiar. Do the math, my friends.

Hair transplants? Was that a slap to Joe? Say it ain’t so! What about his Barbie wife’s BOTOX?
———————————————–

LOL! If O came back with some subtle BOTOX one liner it would bring down the house!

Game over!

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Wow Sandie, how awful. And how typical.😦

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

DEREGULATION

SHUT UP TOM

No laugh.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

what was that McCain “joke”?

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Brokaw, “come back to the hall?” to Obama…? What an ass!!!!!!!!!!!

7 10 2008
norfroder

Mac is going to go all PTSD anytime now.

7 10 2008
Sphinx

What an asshole!!!

7 10 2008
kimosabe

Oh hell Emjay, all of us his age have hemorroids

7 10 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

I am breaking out the the blackberry wine, I have 200 gallons in the basement, hope it’s enough to make it through the rest of the debate.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#15 my friends…

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

my friends – drink!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

a-cr-cr-crisis… D’OH!!!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

those of you playing the drinking bingo game must be on the floor by now

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Oh God, give the man another plane – maybe this time he’ll finish the job. fourth time lucky?

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

I love it when asiangrrrl calls mccain an asshole. She should do it more often; makes her sound even sexier.

7 10 2008
Laurie

Listening to you guys talk about what you pay for health insurance scares the crap out of me. I have been taking my own health insurance for granted my whole life. I need to remind myself how lucky I am.

7 10 2008
NoCalGal

“That one”.. how rude! McCain is snarky and sarcastic and disrespectful. Shame on McCain

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

He’s willing to stand on his judgment!

7 10 2008
cmac

Geez, I feel better now, now that McCain has told me we are always right and good. here i was thinking iraq was a mistake, like EVERYONE ELSE

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McCain – me, me, me

my friends – drink

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#16 my friends..

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Short career? Isn’t that an oxymoron for McNumbskull?

7 10 2008
jo in AK

you go Obama, “I don’t understand……”

7 10 2008
Blue in MT

Go Obama!

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

I would say Obama is winning, based on the lines, even though it seems like McCain is talking more,
We have great insurance, but we still have to pay $1000 deductible for anything other than doctor visits/Rx, and we pay $550 or so a month in premiums. My husband’s employer pays another $1200 a month.

McCain’s lines were high until he slammed Obama.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Vlad — LOL

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Doddering is the word that comes to mind watching McCain.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Spot on Obama about 9/11 and Iraq linkage!

7 10 2008
Hopeful

Again with the Surge?!!!!

7 10 2008
jo in AK

I think Obama is on a roll tonight

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Force for good. When did you vote for the care for the veterans? Not the last 6 or 8 times (can’t remember.) You did support Kosovo, and you’re an asshole that should not be anywhere invading anything. My kid is in there now saying the RIGHT thing. Go, Obama!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

I’m a disabled vet from the war McCain is still fighting. He is dishonorable.

I’m typeing and not screming anymore. McCain should just get over it I Have….Almost

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

We have lived under war socialism for the MIC

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Amish horses love corn beer. They get to drink some after a hard day out in the sillage fields. Their task masters seem to prefer yuengling.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

as of today the surge is coming undone

7 10 2008
cmac

Yes, talk it straight – you can’t have a tanked economy and have a war, esp a useless one at that

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

*did not* and the kid I love is explaining everything

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Barack Obama is an amazing debater. I would be horrible at this.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Laurie (18:01:22) :

If you’ve got employer group insurance, don’t take it for granted. It’s not just the expense — if it wasn’t for COBRA, I wouldn’t be able to GET insurance, and I’m a reasonably healthy 60-yo.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists,
the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war,
it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
Dwight David Eisenhower
34th president of the United States

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

What happened to the AUDIENCE asking the questions…?

7 10 2008
savanvleck

Can’t we make McCain STOP saying “MY FRIENDS”???????
It is so condescending or phony or just plain irritating

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

I can’t believe how disrespectful the ASSHOLE (that one’s for you, sauerkraut) is being.

Tom is being so biased! Those of you watching cable, are any commentators picking up on it?

@Debbie Commando, don’t pass out on us now.

7 10 2008
Hopeful

BullwinkleCringing – A heartfelt Thank You for your service.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Give those horses another drink! They’ve earned it, my friend!

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Bullwinkle
I am hearing you..

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#17 my friends.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

savanvleck, we are yelling “you have no friends!!!” every time he says it

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#18 my friends.

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

My friends…getting Gatorade drunk here. Is AKM keeping track?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

BullwinkleCringing (18:03:30) :

I’m a disabled vet from the war McCain is still fighting. He is dishonorable.

I’m typeing and not screming anymore. McCain should just get over it I Have….Almost
—————————————–
I’m a fellow veteran. Welcome home.

7 10 2008
Gina

My husband points out that we’ve been at war in Iraq longer than we were at war during WWII. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Do we really think war there was/is as important as WWII?

7 10 2008
IceColdCaliPalin

Hello.. Cali here

I was watching the debate with my mom and had to come here… why was McCain getting up walking around while Obama was talking… how rude!

7 10 2008
Nate

Nobody is winning, AMerica is losing..

Horrible Debate tonight

7 10 2008
NoCalGal

Question is about helping the world in non security situations.. like Darfur. And McCain answers about Iraq… pffft

7 10 2008
Gina

Hey McCain – staying in Iraq FOREVER isn’t WINNING.

7 10 2008
Sandie

just get our troops home.

7 10 2008
debweb

The surge isn’t over yet. The wars in the middle east may NEVER end. We’ve stirred up a lot of hatred that is much worse now than ever before.

Aaaah!!!!!!!!!!!!! He just said “my friend” two more times. I am NOT his friend.

7 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

A cool hand at the tiller – McIdiot thinks he’s the cool hand – give me a break.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

HamletsMIll — I wasn’t a big Ike fan (well, I was pretty young), but that one was a GREAT speech. Too bad everybody ignored it.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

A cool hand at the tiller…

Ooh, and Reagan is his HERO!

What’s that about TEMPER?

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Aussie-that made me spew Gatorade! Now my son is all excited to yell,”You have no friends!”

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

BWAA HAA HAAA!!! Yelling “YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS!!!”

7 10 2008
Laurie

stranglet…I am Canadian..so I would be fully covered even if I did not work. However…hubby and I both have employer funded plans that pays for any and all extras. Its really quite marvelous. Employers get a discount from the Federal govnt on EI premiums because along with this plan we also get short and long term disability. I know many Canadians take this for granted…but I hope to remain grateful

7 10 2008
Gina

Nate (18:07:18) :

Nobody is winning, AMerica is losing..

Horrible Debate tonight
———————–

I agree, Nate. They aren’t answering the questions.

7 10 2008
norfroder

And now his hero, Ronald Reagan.

7 10 2008
Nate

Why was McCain walking around when OBama was talking?

Cause he is going senile..

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Well, my friends…………….I do believe the old coot has totally lost it, my friends (oh, wait, did I already say that?). He will bring home ‘the boys’ with honor, just like he helped bring the Vietnam POWs home? This guy needs a shovel to dig himself out from under the pile of steaming bull…t he’s ejecting. (my friends)

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Hi Blue In MT –

7 10 2008
Liz S

Don’t you get the idea that if America has to leave any country where we have soldiers that McCain considers that defeat? Why in the world is getting out of a situation where conditions have changed always labeled “defeat” by McCain? He’s a warmonger. I’m convinced of it.

7 10 2008
Polly Hussein

sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin (17:51:51) :

what’s up with youse alls using hussein in your screen names???
_____________________

Solidarity, plus its fun, and takes away the fear perception….

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

mccain’s been in harms way all his life??

no disrespect intended but he flew far above the bloody battlefields and booby trapped woods of vietnam. wrecked at least 4 jets before his was shot down. he has no blessed idea what ground troops go thru. no idea whatsoever.

7 10 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

NoCalGal (18:01:29) :

“That one”.. how rude! McCain is snarky and sarcastic and disrespectful. Shame on McCain
——Forgive me in advance but I think he ment to say that nigger but caught himself, had he said it this election would be over and we could go on with the job helping Alaska send Sarah packing before she manages to do irreprable harm to them. To bad.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Would someone tell McSenile that there are NO VICTORS in a war, only survivors.

7 10 2008
Laurie

Did any of you hear condi rice yesterday? She said she is not so sure that the war is Iraq could ever be won.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Laurie (18:08:27) :

Well then you MAY {grins} take it for granted. Just remember to shoot your politicians if they try to take it away.

7 10 2008
AnnaBanana

I thought it was just me – I couldn’t follow McCain either

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

nate – he’s probably nervous and needs to compose his lines for the next time it’s his turn to talk.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Hey emjay

Doing the same thing LOL

Thank you all for the words. This is a great communty

OMG TR RIP give it mcdouch

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Ah geez, Teddy Roosevelt reference! He’s is stuttering and stumbling all over the place!!!

7 10 2008
Laurie

lol…poor mccain…everytime he slams obama the graph takes a nose dive

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

grrrrrr I am getting so frustrated with MC — someone duct tape his mouth

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Ronald Reagan was not his friend. They were furious when he cheated on Carol and left her. They ended the friendship and sided with Carol.

7 10 2008
norfroder

Ooh, now Mac’s hero is Teddy Roosevelt! Good choice; start talking more softly, please.

7 10 2008
cmac

“when you announce you are going to attack another country…” YOU MEAN LIKE PALIN ATTACKING RUSSIA

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Liar, liar pants on fire.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin) (18:07:44) :

HamletsMIll — I wasn’t a big Ike fan (well, I was pretty young), but that one was a GREAT speech. Too bad everybody ignored it.
—————————————–
I understand. But Ike is starting to look pretty darn sane now at least!

7 10 2008
Blue in MT

@enjay
I got my absentee ballot in the mail today. I just can’t wait!

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Actually, the saying was, my friends, WALK softly and carry a big stick. McNutso said TALK softly, my friends, my frieds, my freds………

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

I use Hussein on my Facebook page. My profile photo is the one of Caroline Kennedy applauding Obama at a rally.

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

I don’t even see too many HI points on the Republican

7 10 2008
lovethecounty AKA Rust Hussein Palin

will Oama remind him of BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

cmac (18:12:06) :

“when you announce you are going to attack another country…” YOU MEAN LIKE PALIN ATTACKING RUSSIA
—————————-
cmac – best comment of the thread so far! Excellent!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Use force..walk softly..carry a big stick..SHEESH!!!

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (18:12:17) :

Well, I have to admit he had a pretty good resume, overall. ;>)

7 10 2008
IceColdCaliPalin

Hell… I need a drink to continue to listen to McNutjob

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

yayyyyy

7 10 2008
Laurie

Mccain is making an ass of himself

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

darfur… yeah, that place that palin claimed to have divested Alaska from because of the genocide there. but it turns out she opposed that divestiture. youse alls ought to go visit cooper on her hellonearth.net blog to find out the real situation in darfur cuz neither mccain nor palin know what they are talking about when in comes to darfur.

7 10 2008
cmac

OBAMA GETS RAW

7 10 2008
jo in AK

you go Obama

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

yep there’s the bomb bomb bomb!!!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Wow. Gloves off!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

TR rolling in his grave

RIP On OBAMA

THis is AWESOME

7 10 2008
LaNon

mc cane is not looking good in this walk-around oprah-style production.

walking and gum like that

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

HamletsMill — just after I posted, I thought: “and now we have John McCain angling for the same job”. And all I can say is “oy”.

7 10 2008
jo in AK

15 more minutes and then I’m drinking

7 10 2008
debweb

He’s contradicting himself. He now says “work with them.” If I remember correctly, this is the same man who said he wouldn’t sit down at the table with our enemies unless we had pre-existing conditions. This is the same guy who wouldn’t meet with Spain, a NATO ally.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Turned off the sound. I had 4 uncles and 1 cousin in various wars. It sucks. Period. We’ve grown as a world and as a country. Let us really grow and support the veterans we have, and support all the legislation that support the vetarans before they come home!!!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Call HIM SONGBIRD

7 10 2008
Laurie

liar…he said bomb bomb bomb Iran…in front of a group he was speaking to….not to a pal

7 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

He was joking?!! about bomb, bomb, bomb. What an A$$.

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Loving the graph

7 10 2008
Crystal D.

‘New voice from Ohio. ~ Love this site. Thank you all.
McInsane’s “s” whistling is making me ,,,,,, ‘tense’…….
There is no way to counteract or rebut alllllll those lies that mean little man is
spouting tonight.

7 10 2008
norfroder

Mac is going after Osama, Rambo style!

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Isn’t that why there is a debate “FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES” ? Duh

7 10 2008
marksmyword

He’s flatling folks. I just love CNN and that graph!

7 10 2008
Laurie

His military career was a whole 20 whole hours on active duty

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

#19 my friends..I’ll get him, I’ll get bin laden, I know how…yeah well newsflash, how bout you SHARE that info with Bushit???

7 10 2008
OptimistInColorado

Wow, so reassuring…McCain knows how to handle these sorts of crises. He’ll get Bin Laden. He’ll get ‘im. I’ll get ‘im. Been doing his whole life. My friends.

7 10 2008
cmac

very well put debweb

7 10 2008
kimosabe

“I know how to do that” … I know how to do everything … except win a debate!

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

Yep, Johnny knows how to get Bin Laden. He and Rambo are going to jump right on that.

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

mccain apparently doesnt know a heck of a lot about teddy roosevelt, or he conveniently forgets teddy’s later runs for the presidency.

7 10 2008
Emjay

McCain knows how to “get” Osama Bin Laden? How come he hasn’t shared this information with anyone. What a tool.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

jo in AK (18:15:27) :

You can watch this WITHOUT drinking? What, you leave the room for Gramps?

7 10 2008
marksmyword

President Obama will do a fine job. Doesn’t he look presidential?

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

If I’m not mistaken, McGoombah’s undershorts are beginning to smoke, and his nose is slowly getting longer as we watch. Within half an hour, he will self-ignite. I’ll bring the marshmallows!!!!!

7 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

oh lordy — against the surge — gees he needs some new lines

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

I salute all the veterans out there. You have served this country to your utmost abilities.

I love the ‘You have no friends’ reply, but I am getting depressed listening to McCain. I think Obama is doing better, but he has to feint and duck too much.

Axe Diesel Palin? How many?

7 10 2008
OptimistInColorado

Thank goodness this is almost over. I am going to donate more money to Obama. And have another drink.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

normality in Iraq????

7 10 2008
Sandie

good grief, if I wasn’t already voting for Obama, I would vote for him just because he SITS DOWN. That pacing on McCain’s part drives me nuts

7 10 2008
Rebecca

“Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (18:02:15) :

We have great insurance, but we still have to pay $1000 deductible for anything other than doctor visits/Rx, and we pay $550 or so a month in premiums. My husband’s employer pays another $1200 a month.”

Holy Moley!!! ((((((NZ Healthcare))))), I’ll never call you crap again!

My nephew has a pacemaker, he’s 13. He’s had four in his life so far and will need another one when he’s 16. I dread to think how much that would cost my sister and her husband if the lived in the States (and her husband has a pacemaker as well).

7 10 2008
lovethecounty AKA Rust Hussein Palin

When he asked for more time, didnt he look like highschool student..m’aam – i need more time if he got it

7 10 2008
norfroder

Mac wants a hot war.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

marksmyword (18:18:20) :

Better than that, he SOUNDS Presidential — i.e., like a person with functioning synapses.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Optimist in Colorado:

I am also an optimist, in Colorado, that place that’s turning blue! Not so blue in Yuma County, where I am, but we’ll get there eventually.

7 10 2008
Laurie

@asiangrrl…I dont think Obama has been ducking. He is doing well I think. McCain is being too sarcastic and just plain childish I think

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

The ass is making a McCain of himself.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Crash 5 planes into Osama? Right, I’m comforted by your ability.

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Emjay, we only get to find out how to get bin laden if we elect him. Otherwise, he keeps that to himself.

Soviet Union? We have more important problems.

7 10 2008
OptimistInColorado

Lighthouse – you’ll get there. Stay strong!

7 10 2008
oogly

This naked aggression will not stand man

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Anybody catch McCain changing the game yet??

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

I can see the rich wing blogs tomorrow: MCCain the second coming of TR….

LOL

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Here we go with KGB eyed Putin again–W saw into his soul and saw a good man…

Just send Sarah home with binoculars to keep an eye on that KGB. Keep her away from that red button!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Asian Hussein Grrl..19 my friends and counting!

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

I can picture palin at her hotel, standing by the television with heels off, rapping her shoes on the bureau like nikita khrushchev did at the UN back in the day.

Hey, Khrushchev was hated by the Americans as much as ImaNutJob over in Iran… but didnt Ike and JFK talk with him? That was how good leaders led: they talked to the enemy in an effort to diffuse things. Poor leaders do things like use road apple non-events, ie, gulf of tonkin, to get us into road apple wars that no one wins, especially not our service personnel who come back in body bags.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (18:20:41) :

Ah, Nixon. He had a secret plan too.

7 10 2008
Laurie

Rebecca….I had to be hospitalized for several months due to a terrible illness. It didnt cost me or my family one dime. I was covered under my regular health care…and my work plan covered me for a semi private room. I was under the care of several specialists at the time as well.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Axe Diesel Palin, Keith Olbermann had a great riff on McCain saying he knows how to get bin Laden.

I’m reading on the Huffington Post that women LOVE Obama and that the line can’t go higher.

Yay. Grampy is still bringing me down

7 10 2008
debweb

He talks like he’s the only person in the country with effective military solutions and that his way is the ONLY way. That’s not a president I want. He’s a warmonger and Obama is a healer.

7 10 2008
norfroder

I inspect my yard for Rooskies every day.

7 10 2008
A Fan from Chicago

Maybe overly loquations in my earlier post. Bottom line for Obama: “Signed, sealed, delivered, I’m yours.”

Could anyone have watched this and seen it any other way.

Four weeks left. Lots of work to be done. Let’s all do our part. Letters to the editor. Phone banks. Door to Door. Friend to friend cards and calls. Casting out witches. Laying on hands. Photos on web sites. Calling in chits. Un-muzzling witnesses. Prayer and fasting (just kidding about that part. But if it works go ahead.)

Let’s leaving nothing on the field.

Yes we can!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Send this link to all your fiends. I met Phil Butler 10 years ago. A very fine man. He was in the Hanoi Hilton 2 and a half years longer than McCain. McCain was not the ONLY POW in all of human history.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Depends on wht Randy says lol

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Funny that McCain likes Teddy Roosevelt. Last time he ran for president, it was with the Bull Moose Party.

7 10 2008
Sandie

yes or no answer? Oh and it is funny when McCain says maybe, whatever, ick

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

how does mccain expect to “win” in iraq when he doesn’t even know what it means or take to “win” in iraq?? the people of iraq are not interested in the US “winning” in iraq, they just want to blow each other up over some slight committed 2000 years ago. we cannot force people to be peaceful no matter how often mccain claims the ability to do so on his own.

7 10 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin) (18:20:12) :

Optimist in Colorado:

I am also an optimist, in Colorado, that place that’s turning blue! Not so blue in Yuma County, where I am, but we’ll get there eventually.
——– Don’t want to be a bearer of bad tidings but Bobby Kennedy Jr. was on the radio saying that 1 out of 5 voters has been kicked off the roles in Colorado you may want to tell every one you know to check their registration make sure they are still registered.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Asian Grrl.. I am a grrl too. You’re cute!

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Laurie (18:22:37) :

Rebecca….I had to be hospitalized for several months due to a terrible illness. It didnt cost me or my family one dime. I was covered under my regular health care…and my work plan covered me for a semi private room. I was under the care of several specialists at the time as well.
—————————————–
Laurie – glad you have recovered. I always enjoy your thoughtful posts.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

So far on the CNN pundit scorecards, we have five Obama wins and one tie.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

uh-uh-uh-a-BRIDGE their behavior. Ignoramus. My friends #20!!!

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Another “my friends”, what number is that?

7 10 2008
cmac
7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

I think Obama won it again!

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Anyone watching FAUX News? Ha ha… Wonder how they’re scoring.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Laurie, I mean ducking the swings from Grampy. Too many counter-jabs.

I’m not drinking, either. Too bad.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Hey Twinkle Toes! We are both Axe Diesel!

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Debbie:

Thanks for the heads up!

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

Isn’t that great!

7 10 2008
Sandie

I wish I didn’t have a policy about never drinking alone, tonight would have been a good night to open the bottle!

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

Oogly, didn’t that rug tie the room together?

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Our next First Lady, Michelle, on Larry King Live tomorrow night.

7 10 2008
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7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Single mom, grandparents. Love the Clinton parallel!

7 10 2008
shannynmoore

vote over at msnbc.com Amazing. any other polls?

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

oh!

we were supposed to drink before watching this???

to those of you who drank while watching, did mccain look or sound any better?

7 10 2008
debweb

Use all tools at our disposal to prevent …. to work more effectively with other countries…. I believe we should have more direct talks with our enemies…..
GREAT RESPONSE!

McCain won’t even talk to Iran or North Korea without pre-existing conditions. He’s got major control issues.

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

Just voted on msnbc.

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

I❤ Obama.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

Iran (Persia in days of old) has NEVER attacked another country. Iraq invaded it last, killing over 1,000,000 Iranians. Israel has attacked innumerable countries as has the United States. Until Iran leaves it borders to ATTACK, it is NOT a threat. It has every right to have weapons to defend itself should it be attacked by another country, just as we have that right and just as Israel has that right. Israel, unless I’m mistaken, is the ONLY country in the Middle East that has nuclear weapons, many of them. We must be ever alert to not buy into cheap propaganda. When they beat the drums of war is when the lies let loose from their lips.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

HA! four more wars!!

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

sauerkraut — of course it didn’t make him look or sound better. It’s like morphine; it doesn’t make the pain go away, it just makes it a little easier to ignore it.

7 10 2008
shannynmoore

here comes the card

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Oh, now McCain is trying to pull the single mom card.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

McCain – distant Father – this is part of his problem.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

He’s so eloquent. Sigh.

i was expecting McCain to burst. What?????? Obama gives that touching rendition, and you give this? Gramps!

Axe Diesel Palin, if you mean my gravatar–that’s Margaret Cho. If you mean mah personality, then thank you very much. What’s the count?

Why doesn’t Grampy sound sincere?

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

Road Apple, drinking was the only way to make him tolerable.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

I know McCain had extensive war injuries, but those stiff arms really creep me out!

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Grampy sounds desperate–did he? Oh, no he didn’t! Steady? Country first?

Brokaw sucked.

7 10 2008
Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin

I’m sorry, but I think Mr. McCain is really living in the past and fighting yesterday’s war. He is just too old and should be gracious enough to retire. It is just good sense. Poor man. He doesn’t realize it is over.

7 10 2008
Rebecca

@ Laurie (18:22:37) :

Glad you’re better now.🙂

I was presuming that the monthly cost that Steph put up was the cost of her regular healthcare and seeing as my nephew & BIL have pre existing conditions wouldn’t their regular payments per month be more than “normal”?

BTW, McCain’s an arse, continue.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

This Debate was moderated by Tom Blowjob LOL HA AH snark

7 10 2008
Gina

By “steady hand on the tiller” McCain is creating his own seed of doubt.
Isn’t he supposed to be the one to shake things up?

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

asianHusseingrrlMN (18:33:52) :

Why doesn’t Grampy sound sincere?
———————————————-

mm perhaps the obvious reason?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Yes. “Put MY country first” by picking a light weight by Scara Palin to be Vice President of the United States. Yeah. Right. Unbelievable. Absolutely criminally irresponsible.

7 10 2008
Axe Diesel Palin

Asian..oops! Avatar too small to see! OK..official count is TWENTY My Friends!

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/standardvidbottom?source=mainnav_bt_nsu_dn

OK ALL YOU WHO SAID YOU’D PAY PER “MY FRIENDS,” HERE YA GO! TIME TO ANTE UP!

Then…volunteer!

7 10 2008
cmac

ahh i survived it

7 10 2008
nigel

Anyone else tired of McCain?

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Obama won five of the six pundit scorecards on CNN.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Laurie, glad you’re doing better and glad that you have health insurance.

I am depressed now. Grampy really took it out of me.

What are the pundits saying, cable-watchers?

Axe Diesel Palin–final count?

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Obama walking around shaking hands — there’s another dozen votes.

7 10 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

Thanks for the live chat…just froze on me so thanking here. It was a lifesaver. Both Brooks & Shields on PBS give Obama the win.

7 10 2008
Sandie

hey, off topic, but… State of Alaska will be reviewing Palin’s per diem payments for staying in her own house. Yippppeee

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Asian
I just sigh at his command of the facts and his eloquence. He’s just the best.

7 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Rebecca-
Clinton put some protections in for pre-existing. If the insured has prior coverage with no more than a 90 day gap, the insurance company HAS to cover pre-existing conditions. If they do not, then the insurance company can decline coverage for all pre-existing conditions for one year. And believe me, they will try to put everything into “pre-existing”.

If you are trying to buy private insurance and have a pre-existing condition, they won’t cover you at all. They just decline your application.

7 10 2008
Liz S

Just curious. Can someone explain to me the Palin nickname scheme? I see it as Random noun Energy-related noun Palin.

Am I close?

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

I bet Brian Williams had someone monitor this site for reaction. He just commented about how live blogs had negative reactions to mccain’s attitude towards oliver and “that one.”

hi brian!

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

@plwalsh (18:37:42) :

Obama won five of the six pundit scorecards on CNN.

***

thanks for that🙂

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

CNN has the usual BOZO’s going to msnbcc-span has callins thats funny sometimes

LOVE to All Thanks for the help

BTW check the links I left in this thread please

7 10 2008
Crazy In Alaska

I wish they wouldn’t have mentioned each others names and just said “Here’s what I will do…” I was getting annoyed listening to them point fingers. I am glad that Obama stood up for himself, I just wish he would have done it last time.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

This is Andrew Sullivan’s assessment:

10.33 pm. This was, I think, a mauling: a devastating and possibly electorally fatal debate for McCain. Even on Russia, he sounded a little out of it. I’ve watched a lot of debates and participated in many. I love debate and was trained as a boy in the British system to be a debater. I debated dozens of times at Oxofrd. All I can say is that, simply on terms of substance, clarity, empathy, style and authority, this has not just been an Obama victory. It has been a wipe-out.It has been about as big a wipe-out as I can remember in a presidential debate. It reminds me of the 1992 Clinton-Perot-Bush debate. I don’t really see how the McCain campaign survives this.

7 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Liz S

You’ve got to go the the Sarah Palin baby name generator (under fun stuff on the right) don’t you love mine?

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

asianHusseingrrlMN (18:38:12) :

Laurie, glad you’re doing better and glad that you have health insurance.

I am depressed now. Grampy really took it out of me.

What are the pundits saying, cable-watchers?

Axe Diesel Palin–final count?
————————————
CNN. Mixed bag. Generally Obama completely adequate.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

nigel, I was tired of McCain before he even spoke.

MinNJ, as I’ve said, he’s the first pol I’ve actually believed means what he says.

Axe Diesel Palin, thanks for the official count. I might throw in a little extra.

Thanks y’all for a lively debate. I think we did much better than any pundits.

7 10 2008
Wisconsin shopgirl

New poll on msnbc. Question is “Who did the best job connecting with the crowd?”

7 10 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

McCain is embarrassed by the dirty work says Matthews. Rachel says McCain went after Obama but was swinging and missing. Seemed edgy.

7 10 2008
twinkle toes aka Axe Diesel Palen

I really like Carville but he looks so frightening

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Liz S (18:39:53) :

You may be right. They come (mostly) from the Palin Baby Name Generator (see righthand frame). Never tried to figure the algorithm.

7 10 2008
karen marie

go vote — you’ll see the little line top leftish that says something about “go vote here”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

7 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

plwalsh (18:41:29) :

This is Andrew Sullivan’s assessment:

10.33 pm. This was, I think, a mauling: a devastating and possibly electorally fatal debate for McCain. Even on Russia, he sounded a little out of it. I’ve watched a lot of debates and participated in many. I love debate and was trained as a boy in the British system to be a debater. I debated dozens of times at Oxofrd. All I can say is that, simply on terms of substance, clarity, empathy, style and authority, this has not just been an Obama victory. It has been a wipe-out.It has been about as big a wipe-out as I can remember in a presidential debate. It reminds me of the 1992 Clinton-Perot-Bush debate. I don’t really see how the McCain campaign survives this.
——————–

Doesn’t matter – Fox will still say McLame was the obvious winner.

7 10 2008
lonewolf a.k.a. Luger Otter Palin

One comment .. re: Palin

Had she been asked *ANY* of those questions, she would have fallen flat on her face. Biden, on the other hand, *could* speak well to them.

I hope people recognize that.

7 10 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

Pat Buchanan sitting next to Rachel? How can she bear it? Buchanan says McCain missed too-Obama presidential. WOW.

7 10 2008
Laurie

@Hamlet…looks like they are saying Obama won

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Liz – there’s a Palin baby name generator somewhere on the sidebar; I couldn’t figure out how to get my own name generated so I created my own from a phrase the amish use to politely call “horse shit.”

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

plwalsh (18:41:29) :

Yeah, but we all know Sully is too darn intellectual for his own good.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

I’m glad that’s over, and I’m glad I didn’t have to do it alone!

Thanks mudflatters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 10 2008
Dal

Andrew Sullivan is calling it a wipe-out for Sen. Obama. ABC’s Stephanopolus calls it for Sen. Obama.

7 10 2008
Denise

Hic cup.

Sat silently…literally….watching debate with my Repub husband. So I amused myself by taking a shot of bourbon for every “my friend.”

Appreciatively Tipsy.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

@kate aka chin duststrap (18:43:57) :

Pat Buchanan sitting next to Rachel? How can she bear it? Buchanan says McCain missed too-Obama presidential. WOW.

*****

For that, I would sit next to him, too!

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

Shocker Pat Buchanasss thinks our boy blew it LOL

7 10 2008
Sphinx

Buchanan says Obama lost on points????? He just needs to stop himself. In the face of the obvious, old Pat still can’t see the target.

7 10 2008
Denise

McCain looked old. And not particularly grandfatherly.

7 10 2008
Liz S aka Crunk Petrol Palin

Hahaha. I love my name.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Denise (18:46:11) :

Certainly not a whole shot each time???? How could you still type?

7 10 2008
Denise

Pat is a Repub doing his Repub talking points job.

7 10 2008
Pacificnwgal

Honestly. I didn’t really learn anything new tonight. If Tom Brokaw would have stopped complaining about the time which interrupted the flow, I think. And both Obama and McCain would have just focused on some more details about their OWN plans instead of slamming each other, I think we could have heard the differences between them a little better. At this at this point, I want to hear more about HOW we are going to move forward, not the same old stuff.

7 10 2008
Divatalk

Hey guys, this was great, I was watching Mcain for body language. What do you think it said this time?

7 10 2008
Sandie

even my alaska oilfield working hubby is voting for Obama

7 10 2008
Denise

Okay….mini shots. I started with a tumbler and now I have a half-finger left. With ice.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Bill Bennet said Obama won.

7 10 2008
Divatalk

Don’t forget the National Day of Support “Enough t-shirt. Go to http://www.wecannoturnback.blogspot.com Let turn blue! Proceeds go to
Obama/Biden campaign.

7 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Liz S aka Crunk Petrol Palin

Isn’t it fun? Can’t really say I’m lovin’ Crust Scramble, but I’ve learned to live with it.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Pacificnwgal (18:49:19) :
Honestly. I didn’t really learn anything new tonight.

——————————————————-
Oh, c’mon. You learned that Tom Brokaw has degenerated to somewhere between twit and tool.

7 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

Buchanan is paid well to be a contrarian. Frankly, if he puckers up any more than he is right now in having to defend mccain, he’s gonna blow a loud one on-air.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

OMG MSNBS has odonnel doing the debrief CIO

7 10 2008
Denise

Pacific….I would have liked to hear more. We aren’t. They are trying to get their rehersed messages out to new ears. Amazingly some voters have just tuned in to the election.

Probably best not to have either of them shooting ideas from the hip. Yee gads, we might have to live with the idea.

7 10 2008
Divatalk

I thought Obama could have asked Mcain more about his support of the troops, seeing that he didn’t want to fund the GI bill, or provide them with necessary equipment.

7 10 2008
Laurie

lol…McCain is going to be in a bad mood tonight

7 10 2008
plwalsh

Obama won the CNN focus group.

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Strangelet! You are right about Brokaw. When my daughter was 3, she would kiss Tom on the TB screen – she adored him!

She called me tonight to tell me she just finished washing her mouth out with soap! LOL!

I love it that both of my kids are supporting Barack!

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Divatalk (18:49:34) :

Hey guys, this was great, I was watching Mcain for body language. What do you think it said this time?
—————————————————–

“I’m a maverick, and I really, REALLY want to get out of here and onto the open plain”

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Laurie (18:43:58) :

@Hamlet…looks like they are saying Obama won
——————————————–
Yes. I expressed myself poorly. And I was not drinking either! Stone sober! Just tired.

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

er TV not TB

7 10 2008
GJ in Idaho

My hubby was watching the debate in the other room, he needs to have the TV up very loud, so I watched on the set in my office, anyway he just came in and said, “it isn’t near as exciting without the hooker, but, Obama won hands down!”

That about sums it up.

7 10 2008
Divatalk

I didn’t learn anything much either. I think the undecided will still be undecided if they were looking for major substantive answers. I think they expect too much since most of what will be done can’t be done until they take office to assess the situation.

They will have to go on who they like more.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing

MSNBS show is AWESOME LOL doing graphic replays LOL

7 10 2008
Laurie

@divatalk…I agree, but he was kind of hemmed in by the questions that were asked. I am sure there was a lot he would have liked to have said.

7 10 2008
JBDC

Soledad is on CNN with the focus group of undecided voters. Many of them say the candidates didn’t say anything and that they didn’t “hear what they wanted to hear.” What? Are all swing voters so brain dead? I hope not.

7 10 2008
Denise

I think his body language said OLD.

Not new. Not vigorous. Not “steady.”

Just OLD.
++++++++++++++++

strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin) (18:53:34) :

Divatalk (18:49:34) :

Hey guys, this was great, I was watching Mcain for body language. What do you think it said this time?
—————————————————–

“I’m a maverick, and I really, REALLY want to get out of here and onto the open plain”

7 10 2008
kate aka chin duststrap

obamas still on stage. McCain has left the building….

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

I wanted Barack to say: Hillary is going to take care of Health Care, Robert Reich will be back to handle the Treasury….I guess I wanted him to show his cards….I know, I know, not a good strategy….

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

@strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin) (18:53:34) :

Divatalk (18:49:34) :

Hey guys, this was great, I was watching Mcain for body language. What do you think it said this time?
—————————————————–

“I’m a maverick, and I really, REALLY want to get out of here and onto the open plain”

😀

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

I need help!!!!

I just got this email. Has anybody seen this crap, to help me debunk it! (Really quickly, but in the nicest possible way, it came from my sister in law!

Dear friends,

I am writing this message to everyone I know. The link I have sent you below will connect you to Hannity’s America where you can watch the full content of the program aired Sunday night about Barak Obama’s background and past activities. There are 3 segments which you can watch on streaming video if you have the capability on your computer. Please watch this. This is the first nationally televised program I’ve heard of (there may have been others I’m not aware of) that covers the truth about Barak Obama’s background and connections with many people with extreme and radical Anti-American sentiments. It also details his involvement with “Acorn”, a group that used intimidation to effect the giving of the bad loans that have resulted in the economic “crisis” that has everyone abuzz just before an election (amazing timing, don’t you think?). In actuality, the work of Barak Obama and those he trained has lead us to this “crisis”, and now he hopes to use his promises to get us out of the “crisis” he helped to create to carry him to the Presidency.

It’s amazing what is going on. If you are considering voting for Obama, or even if you are not, be sure and watch this.

Here’s the link:
http://www.foxnews. com/hannitysamer ica/

You click on each of the three segments: The College years, Community Organizer Years, ACORN association. You have to click on each on of these to see the whole program.

In Christ, Debbie Steele

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin) (18:53:33) :

Yeah. *I* used to like Brokaw. It’s some kind of Dorian Anchor thing, seems to get about half of them.

7 10 2008
judi hussein

McCain body language said I am an old fart and should have been in bed hours ago

7 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

@sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin (18:09:46) :
mccain’s been in harms way all his life??

He has, of course he’s always been the source of that harm and wants to take us with him.

Also “That one” is not playing out well here in Tokyo.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Divatalk (18:54:20) :

I didn’t learn anything much either. I think the undecided will still be undecided if they were looking for major substantive answers. I think they expect too much since most of what will be done can’t be done until they take office to assess the situation.

They will have to go on who they like more.
—————————————

Can you imagine the mentality of people who are undecided at this point? I mean…really! Can these people read, analyze, and think AT ALL? At least one way or the other. I mean R E A L L Y!

7 10 2008
Denise

GJ in Idaho, Tell your hubby he have my vote…for reviews. I will take his advice on movies cause the VP debate was certainly more stage worthy.

7 10 2008
JBDC

I agree that McCain looked old. I was really disturbed by his fake hushed tone when he sounded like he was spilling juicy gossip or ratting someone out. Creepy. Obama held it steady and strong, as usual.

I wondered about Obama’s cut on Delaware’s lax business tax regulation, though. That’s Joe’s state : (

7 10 2008
plwalsh

The “that one” clip is already up on YouTube.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

P*ssed and tipsy, but have coffee and cake now. Thanks for the company as I truly could not have done this alone. I thank you each and every one…thanks.

7 10 2008
plwalsh

McCain was really creepy tonight. You wouldn’t want to sit next to him at a party.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

GJ in Idaho (18:54:03) :

“it isn’t near as exciting without the hooker, but, Obama won hands down!”
————————————————–

Please give your hubby a terrorist fist bump (TM) from me.

7 10 2008
Denise

eajphd Molten Contra Palin, “That one not playing well here in Tokyo” Wonder how “Bomb bomb bomb Iran” is playing in the Mideast. That ain’t joking words for a President. Think “Bring it on.”

7 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Here’s the link:
{http://www.foxnews. com/hannitysamer ica/]

I think they’re having a Palin moment and transposed some letters –

Shouldn’t it read/ichannitysmears/ ?

7 10 2008
Laurie

@JBDC….Palin gets that tone too. Its like they are trying to be conspiratorial…and I find it ugly.

7 10 2008
emma

Funniest line of the evening from the chat:

Dateline: “McCain kills thousands of drunken Democrats by telling them they are his friend”

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Anyone who is undecided is either lazy or ignorant.

McCain wasn’t creepy, he was crapey…

7 10 2008
judi hussein

Guess what McScum, ‘That One’ won!!

7 10 2008
West Virginian

Lighthouse–Unfortunately there is nothing you can say or do to fight that stuff. When they do it in “Christ’s name” they really think that McCain is God’s choice. My educated, although ignorant Repub sister thought Palin did a wonderful job in the debate. No sense to argue. They are all brainwashed by Fox news.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

MinNJ Moose Roadster (18:58:13) :

P*ssed and tipsy, but have coffee and cake now. Thanks for the company as I truly could not have done this alone. I thank you each and every one…thanks.
—————————————–
You’re welcome. I can stand these two. But I cannot watch Palin without seriously needing support of some kind. Mudflats. Access to serious self medication if needed. I just cannot tolerate her at all. Is destructive to my mental and physical health. She is an abomination.

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

Are you kidding me? Obama called out McCain on his lies on taxes and the military. Were we listening to the same debate? OK…I need to calm down. The economy wasn’t even a draw! Sh*t.

7 10 2008
NSWFM

If John McCain is my friend, then I’m going to have to ask him to loan me $100,000 to tide me through since I do consulting in the financial industry (which has pretty much gone to h*** completely) and work with a small business that remodels homes in So Cal and my investments have shrunk substantially and my rentals are in Park City, Utah which will mean people are going to stay home this winter….

He looks like he has a dowager’s hump and when I was in the car, listening to the debate on NPR, McCain sounded like he was having a hard time breathing and talking at the same time. Like he was out of breath.

7 10 2008
Regi

JBDC (18:58:00) :

I agree that McCain looked old. I was really disturbed by his fake hushed tone when he sounded like he was spilling juicy gossip or ratting someone out. Creepy. Obama held it steady and strong, as usual.

I wondered about Obama’s cut on Delaware’s lax business tax regulation, though. That’s Joe’s state : (

Makes Joe look good for the conservatives🙂 DE needs to attract businesses, I don’t know that he meant it so much as bad for business, just horrible for health care.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

CNN. God, I can’t stand Leslie Sanchez.

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

HamletsMill, dearest one….please come to Alaska and help talk me through SP’s return! 🙂

7 10 2008
Divatalk

Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin) (18:55:56) :

I need help!!!!

I just got this email. Has anybody seen this crap, to help me debunk it! (Really quickly, but in the nicest possible way, it came from my sister in law!

***************
Yeah, tell her to don’t make you laugh! People want to divide and create fear!
Suggest for her to do her own homework, listen to the what Obama is saying to make her assessment.. My 2 cents

7 10 2008
pj

Hi all,
listening to KO as follow up to debate…hope everyone enjoyed Obama’s thoughtful performance. At least the ol’ grey-hair guy didn’t implode (too bad…so sad)🙂

7 10 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN

It’s the same thing over and over. Neither is giving specifics as to
what they are going to do. Perhaps it is due to the way the
rules are set up. Forget the lights and clocks. Ask questions
and give answers. Tell us what you are going to do, how you
are going to do it, and how much it is going to cost the American
citizens.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

JBDC (18:58:00) :

I winced a little about Delaware too, but (1) it’s been true for eighty years;
(2) as Senator, Joe doesn’t affect his state’s business law.

But mostly, to make Obama’s point, Delaware is the prime example of businesses incorporating in the state of least resistance.

7 10 2008
Nate

Honestly, I thought they both sucked tonight… Obama stuttered way too much tonight. McCain is just dumb.

This debate doesn’t phase the numbers at all, if anything Obama may pick up few Independents.

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

The format stinks….

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

GJ in Idaho, three thunbs up to your hubby.

Lighthouse, sorry, there is no way in hell I’m reading any of Inanity’s filth.

Suchanut, tell your daughtcer the germs have probably faded by now.

I made my donation, my friends, but I’m still depressed by Grampy.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

@Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin) (18:55:56) :

I need help!!!!

I just got this email. Has anybody seen this crap, to help me debunk it! (Really quickly, but in the nicest possible way, it came from my sister in law!

Whenever I get Republican hate mail it’s usually on a broadcast – so I just broadcast it back – sometimes my message say’s “your email has been rejected by my computer’s automatic bullshit detector software”, and sometimes it’s a slogan, or just a comment.

7 10 2008
Denise

Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin) (19:00:45) :

McCain wasn’t creepy, he was crapey…
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Crapey…as in draped like a coffin.

Or Crappy as in like the last few weeks?

I noticed his yellow and green lines on CNN were sort of stable. Umm. Flat.

7 10 2008
judi hussein

My favorite line was when Obama said “Sen. McCain I think the straight talk express lost a wheel on that one”

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

asianHusseingrrlMN (19:04:39) :

<<>>>

7 10 2008
Rebecca

@ Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin (18:39:38) :

Sorry for the delay, I was looking for polls! They were both born with their conditions so they wouldn’t be covered. Thanks for your help!🙂

@lighthouse, it’s by Hannity it should be debunked just for that!

Poll on MSNBC :

Won debate: 87% OB (was 90% before)
Connecting to crowd: 85% OB
Most Presidential: 85% OB

Poll on Newsview:

http://andrewspagnoli.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/07/1965962-pesidential-debate-2-obama-mccain-blog-and-poll-who-is-the-winner

93% Obama
8 % of poll takers after getting drunk on “My Friends” McCain

7 10 2008
JBDC

@ HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:03:03)

I feel EXACTLY the same about Leslie Sanchez. She is snarky, sort of like SP.

7 10 2008
Lacy Lady

I will take Obama’s smile, any time to that old sour face McCain. How rude pointing and saying “him”. I never heard Mcain ever answer any questions–he just took off on his own speal like Palin. McCain had to win tonight to gain in the polls, and he missed by a long shot.

7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

asianHusseingrrlMN (19:04:39) :

I tried to send you some HUGZZZ but I guess I don’t get the whole <> thingie…

7 10 2008
pj

@ JBDC
I think that goes back to how BO/JB expect people and businesses to sacrifice and make responsible choice. At least he’s honest about that…McPalin would have you believe there would be no $$$ consequences/sacrifice to help get us back on the right track

7 10 2008
Sphinx

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:03:03) :

CNN. God, I can’t stand Leslie Sanchez.
___________________________________________________________
I’ll give Sanchez kudos for catching McCain’s comment that the one questioner probably didn’t know anything about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

@pj (19:03:28) :

Hi all,
listening to KO as follow up to debate…hope everyone enjoyed Obama’s thoughtful performance. At least the ol’ grey-hair guy didn’t implode (too bad…so sad)

****

someone commented that the old guys short’s were smoking😉

7 10 2008
JBDC

CNN. Campbell Brown has the stats
Who won the debate?
Obama 54%
McCain 30%

Favorables before/after the debate
Obama 60%/64%
McCain 38%/34%

7 10 2008
Denise

emma (19:00:40) :

Funniest line of the evening from the chat:

Dateline: “McCain kills thousands of drunken Democrats by telling them they are his friend”
++++++++++++++++

HA HA HA

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

West Virginian (19:01:35) :

Lighthouse–Unfortunately there is nothing you can say or do to fight that stuff. When they do it in “Christ’s name” they really think that McCain is God’s choice. My educated, although ignorant Repub sister thought Palin did a wonderful job in the debate. No sense to argue. They are all brainwashed by Fox news.
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7 10 2008
Suchanut (Wesson Hussein Scalper Palin)

Denise (19:05:33) :
Yeah, the coffin thing was on my mind, along with the skin thingie….:)

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Sphinx (19:07:06) :

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:03:03) :

CNN. God, I can’t stand Leslie Sanchez.
___________________________________________________________
I’ll give Sanchez kudos for catching McCain’s comment that the one questioner probably didn’t know anything about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
—————————————————
Good point. That was insightful. But I still can’t stand her.

7 10 2008
norfroder

I don’t think anyone was moved by tonight’s festivities. I’m amazed daily by the Mac and P acolytes’ willingness to spin every crash and burn by this ticket into a win. They really believe it.

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Hi kids.. Sure looked like McOld may be dead and buried..!!

7 10 2008
Denise

Seriously, even though 50 is the new 40, McCain is 72. He is simply too old for the job. Even if I agreed with him and Palin was not his VP [shudder], I would not vote for him.

My mom had Alzheimers and my mother in law too. Came up slow. Most folks wouldn’t have known. And McCain hasn’t released his medical records while trying to become Prez.

NO not never. Nada.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Lacy Lady (19:06:42) :

I will take Obama’s smile, any time to that old sour face McCain. How rude pointing and saying “him”. I never heard Mcain ever answer any questions–he just took off on his own speal like Palin. McCain had to win tonight to gain in the polls, and he missed by a long shot.
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A shout out to you, Lacy Lady. I enjoy your posts on the Mudflats.

7 10 2008
Cara

I don’t see how anyone could have been undecided after the LAST debate. I mean, we’re talking about diametrically opposed ideological differences, not to mention differences in intellect and temperament.

7 10 2008
OG aka Tank Dent Palin

I was really happy when Obama (“that one”) was able to reference McCain’s bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran. It fit in perfectly with his response to the question.

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

OG YES… I cheered and applauded!!

7 10 2008
you'rekidding,right?

“I’m a maverick, and I really, REALLY want to get out of here and onto the open plain”

Um, don’t you mean open Palin?

7 10 2008
JBDC

Did anyone notice when McCain was answering some question about an hour into the debate and he referred back to “over here with the first question of the night” and he walked over to the “F” section, when in fact the first question came from the section on the other side of the stage–I think section “C”? Did he forget where he started?

Rachael Maddow pointing out that McCain flat out lied about Barack charging some sort of fine for not enrolling in insurance.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Suchanut–thanks for the hugs; I needed them.

I think they should really debate each other, off the cuff. I actually felt a little sorry for Grampy ‘coz he sounded so desperate–until he wouldn’t shake Obama’s hand.

I think Grampy’s body language was saying, “Cindy! Where’s my Medimucil (or however you spell it)?” It seems pretty clear that most (sane) people thought Obama had the upper hand tonight.

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Oh.. 3 more days left for Failin being creamed!

7 10 2008
wired hussein differently

So, what’s the word from Sarah today? Did she incite any violence? Still campaigning hard in Republican strongholds??? I see Omaha has turned pink on 538. Hey, maybe she’s actually a Democratic Party operative working undercover… fiendishly clever.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

I think Barak has done himself well tonight, the right wing are going nuts LOL

snark

7 10 2008
Denise

Old McPalin will be out with knives or shooting from a helicopter tomorrow.

Down and dirty from here on out.

How is Governor Attack Dog Palin playing in Alaska? An admired role for her?

7 10 2008
MinNJ Moose Roadster

HamletsMill
You are a dear and a delight. I’m a Charlie Rose devotee, so I must listen…VP was worse, as I decided (so wrongly) to drink Black Russians with club soda to dilute them, in honor of Governor Palin. I could not say anything coherently when my cousin called (her father was in WWII in the Battle of the Bulge.) Thanks, again. Wine is much better for me, and, at my age, I should have know that…live and learn! Our guy was brilliant. As always.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Denise, my mom was here for a visit and we watched Grampy give his acceptance speech. I’m thirty-seven, and she’s sixty-six. She kept saying how old he was for the job–she couldn’t get over it. I just nodded in agreement.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Lighthouse —

I sympathize. A couple months ago I got the “Obama is the Antichrist” email forwarded by my sister-in-law, with a “maybe we should check this out” cover.

Compared to yours, that was easy, since snopes already had the identical email on their site. Also, as it happens, I have read the Revelation several times, and could personally point out that the email claims were baloney. I have no idea if I convinced anybody, but at least I got to reply to a really long address list.

In your case, I’m sorry to say, if you want to try, you’re gonna have to watch the moosepuckey and make notes, and then look up the actual facts, and probably write up a rebuttal you can email. (Hell, I may find I have to do that. Maybe I should get started.) If you can manage to send such a rebuttal to a whole list, you might get a few of them to think. I mean, all of this anti-American, anti-Christian BS is, of course, code for “BLACK”. However, there may be a few people on the mailing list who are really only concerned about the anti-Christian part, and if you can show them that Obama is, in fact, a mainstream Christian, they might think different(ly).

There’s nothing for it but hard work, or just telling your SIL to ****** (or just ignore it).

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

How many trillions does mcidiot want to spend buying up bad mortgages? If that doesn’t prove he’s insane, what does?

7 10 2008
pj

@ Aussie are you sure it wasn’t the ol’ man himself who was smokin’? As in a campaign goin’ up in flames?
Not the other type of smokin’, but since he was calmer tonight perhaps he was or perhaps he took some of Cindy’s RX drugs??
Sorry…

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Denise (19:12:01) :

50 is the new 40, and 60 is (in my dreams) the new 35; but McCain is the new CryptKeeper.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Thank you HamletsMill, for those words of wisdom! There is no doubt that you are correct, and I know I’m not going to change her mind, (darn it, anyhow!)

I’m going to have to put a cork in it to keep from sending the truth back to her. It’s really incredibly frustrating!

I actually responded to an anti-Obama email from another sister-in-law a few months ago, in a very civil manner (I just sent her the facts), and the response I received in return was…”I’m sorry I ever sent you an email. I’ll never do it again. Ever!” And, she hasn’t sent me another one!

Apparently, I’m a slow learner!

If I’m going to have any in-laws at all to spend holidays with, I’ll just have to keep quiet!

7 10 2008
TH Wv

I’m trying to catch up on all the post, until then can someone post links to some of the polls? Thanks

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

At least McCain never said maverick tonight. I do believe Joe Biden’s evisceration of the word left McCain speechless (on that point).

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

Oh Crap It just hit me the economy is taking a giant dump now…..What is going to happen in the mean time?

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

Tom Brokaw should be Kieth Olbermann’s Worse Person in the World!!!!!

7 10 2008
JBDC

@ wired hussein differently (19:15:50) :

So, what’s the word from Sarah today? Did she incite any violence? Still campaigning hard in Republican strongholds???
—————————–

According to Countdown with Keith O, SP continued the Bill Ayers linking on the stump today, and said “domestic terrorist” about 100 times. Evidently there were three speeches that spurred three incidents where someone in the audience yelled something threatening. “Terrorist!” at one; “Kill him ” at another; and “Treason” at another. The Secret Service is now investigating the “Kill him” incident as a threat to a presidential candidate. Oh, and when Palin said something critical about the media at one of her speeches the crowd turned and started hurling insults at the press pool, including one racial comment.

And the McPalin campaign rolls on without switching gears….

7 10 2008
Denise

Marty, Hey, I don’t even think it was McIdiot’s idea. I think it was rattling around Congress. FROM DEMS!!!!

Poor McIdiot, it is all just a bit too much for him. Let’s make sure he gets enough rest. Vote OBAMA.

7 10 2008
Blue in MT

Can we get a t-shirt that says “Proud to vote for “That One””

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

Na the old Maverick isn’t feeling Maveriky tonight

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Kill him.. Sounds about what you’d expect from repugnants.

We don’t have to say that about McOld.. he’ll die of old age soon enough.

7 10 2008
Divatalk

People who say they need to know specifically what, when, where and how much it will cost in terms of the candidates is not being fair to either of them (not as though I like Mcain or think he really knows).

That is not possible. With the economic climate we are in right now, not knowing what is going to happen next, it would be unfair for them to begin saying specifically because 1)they are not psychic and they don’t have a crystal ball to tell them where everything is going to be before they take office and 2) if they mapped out something today and based it on that, then took office and had to drastically change things, then people would say they lied.

They can only say what is important to them, what their priorities are and what they won’t compromise on and what their goal will be.

I don’t think it is fair to expect more. When we budget for our own lives, or create our goals, what we plan and what we face to deter those plans are oftentimes vastly different.

I believe we need to also take responsibilities for ourselves and determine, what do we plan to do in our own lives given what we know today to turn things around. Then whatever they do will be a bonus and not something we base our entire lives on just in case what is laid out has to be altered.

Ok, I’m done.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

MinNJ Moose Roadster (19:17:53) :

HamletsMill
You are a dear and a delight. I’m a Charlie Rose devotee, so I must listen…VP was worse, as I decided (so wrongly) to drink Black Russians with club soda to dilute them, in honor of Governor Palin. I could not say anything coherently when my cousin called (her father was in WWII in the Battle of the Bulge.) Thanks, again. Wine is much better for me, and, at my age, I should have know that…live and learn! Our guy was brilliant. As always.
—————————————-
You are very kind! Thanks for that heads up about Charlie Rose. I am a devotee too. Switching over to PBS now.

BTW, did you catch your NJ guy Springsteen yesterday in Philly?

And then there is always my NJ guy Joe P as a pick-me-up tonic!

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

I bet there will be THAT ONE t-shirts by the weekend..

McOld looks like the pedophile who sits on the park bench near the local park..

Creepy.

7 10 2008
asianHusseingrrlMN

Blue in MT, I would definitely buy that shirt.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Strangelet,

Thanks for the sympathy! I love these women, really, but I hate that they think that because I also am a Christian, they are sure that I agree with them.

I will probably watch all of the moosepucky, simply because I have a feeling that most of it will probably be pretty easily proved wrong. But I will probably ignore SIL’s email.

Still, I am frustrated!

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Hey Alaskans.. Blue in Alaska in November???? 🙂

7 10 2008
Denise

Lighthouse,

Repubs, even relatives, are not usually picking up on the same things. I find I focus on facts more than my husband and he focuses on “us against them” moments.

After the silent debate watch he fled upstairs to no doubt get what he thinks from FOX. Never underestimate the lockstep mentality of Repubs. Again “Us against Them.”

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Divatalk (19:25:21) :

I may be an easier sell. Given the format, all I’m looking for is “Does he/she appear to have a reasonable idea of what the subject of the question is”.

Presidents can hire experts. But they have to be able to tell the experts what they want to have happen.

Now, in this particular debate, it was simple enough to look for the candidate who appeared to have a functioning mentality.

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Lighthouse, think it’s time to marry a dem..🙂

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

@Divatalk (19:25:21) :

People who say they need to know specifically what, when, where and how much it will cost in terms of the candidates is not being fair to either of them (not as though I like Mcain or think he really knows).

****

Thank you for adding that. I’ve had too much ‘friendly’ wine to even want to do it.😉

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

I think we should all take a moment to welcome President Obama to DC.. He sure looked Presidential tonight.

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

Blue in MT,

You Can upload art to cafepress.com and they will set up a shop.
Havent done it but cio

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

T shir sales shop

7 10 2008
pj

@ divatalk
I agree and that is the same msg I hear from Obama…and that’s good thing!
Personal responsibility along w/gov’t intervention,,,it’s a hand-in-hand type of affair. I don’t think I’ve heard too many liberals tell it this way before…and I as a conservative/moderate independent love hearing

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

damn getting quit buzzed

T shirts can be made through cafepress.com

THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSMENT damn mcain and his my fiends=beers LOL

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Husein

Denise (19:29:28)

Perhaps you could try installing a Republican government at home, where you are the government and he is the people.

You could declare war on the wallpaper, invade and ‘rebuild’ the garden, de-regulate the children, tax the kitchen …..😉

7 10 2008
Denise

Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater (19:31:42) :

I think we should all take a moment to welcome President Obama to DC.. He sure looked Presidential tonight.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

And to think, we owe it all to Bush. Without the 8 previous disastrous years, our country might not have been so very very ready for a change. Obama is change. On many levels. I like that he thinks, is cautious, entertains other opinions, and conducts himself like an adult (not an egotistical mavericky cowboy).

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Denise I agree totally.. Obama simply acts presidential. We’ve not had that for 8 years.. And if McOld wins, we’d have to endure 4 more years of stupidity. Even worse is if he died and Falin got to play president.. Then we’d REALLY be in trouble.

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

JBDC (19:22:53) :

@ wired hussein differently (19:15:50) :

So, what’s the word from Sarah today? Did she incite any violence? Still campaigning hard in Republican strongholds???
—————————–

According to Countdown with Keith O, SP continued the Bill Ayers linking on the stump today, and said “domestic terrorist” about 100 times. Evidently there were three speeches that spurred three incidents where someone in the audience yelled something threatening. “Terrorist!” at one; “Kill him ” at another; and “Treason” at another. The Secret Service is now investigating the “Kill him” incident as a threat to a presidential candidate. Oh, and when Palin said something critical about the media at one of her speeches the crowd turned and started hurling insults at the press pool, including one racial comment.

And the McPalin campaign rolls on without switching gears….
——————————————————–
Remember my new bumper sticker design on this issue:

“ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY: REPUBLICAN VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SARAH PALIN SLEPT WITH A TERRORIST AT LEAST FOUR (cross out the four) FIVE TIMES”

7 10 2008
mvngfwd

I have to admit it….

I have a serious crush on Obama now. I had one before but I am gushy now. My husband thinks it is cute and so I can gush away. He nailed it! Now let’s go hit those polls and push those numbers even higher. Where’s the list from dailykos? They are so good at that.

Buying all the mortgages is not sitting well with non-neocon repubs. I see a split coming right down the middle of the Repub party. Bummer!😉

7 10 2008
BullwinkleCringing(DrStrangeLoveBlowbackPalin)

CNN solidad obrian coaching numbnutgroup LOL

7 10 2008
Rebecca

Sarah Palin, like McCain with the hair transplant thing, has been slagging off Joe Biden while he was at his mother in laws funeral

“Then, however, she let loose. “Will [Obama] now claim that his ticket doesn’t define higher taxes as patriotic? Remember that’s what Joe Biden had said. Will he claim that he has just learned now that tax increases on small businesses kill jobs?””

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/palin-criticizes-biden-wh_n_132753.html

Like how she said “kill” when he’s just had a death in the family. Bitch.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Lighthouse —

Again, I hear you. I believe I forgot to mention that I love my SIL. She’s a wonderful person, and I don’t think she’s way racist. Really, she should be big pro-O, based on her beliefs.

Two weekends before the election may be interesting, because her daughter is getting married, and we’ll all be there (different town, couple hundred miles away, we only see them a few times a year). I confess to mudflats that I plan to keep a low profile — it IS her daughter’s wedding, and we’re in Cali anyhow.

Good luck, and don’t be without hope. As you well know, “Christian” is NOT synonymous with “racist” or “stupid”, although it is sometimes “selectively informed”. If you’re willing to try, you may change some minds.

BTW, for full disclosure, I was raised Protestant, but am now, I suspect, agnostic.

7 10 2008
Denise

Aussie Puck Mule Husein, pretty much, pretty close to what you wrote. Except I am a considerate and functioning government. HA. The girls and I volunteer down at the Dem headquarters while hubby holes up with Bill O’REALLY. It’s a tough season for him. But football beckons.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

Denise and Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater:

Here’s the really great part! My husband loves to argue, so in 1992, when he started a political argument with one of his four Republican sisters, he told them he was going to vote for Bill Clinton. And they said “you can’t vote for Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! doggone it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” So he promptly changed his affiliation to Democrat and never looked back!

Is it any wonder that I love this man!?!?!

7 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@mvngfwd (19:39:07) :

Buying all the mortgages is not sitting well with non-neocon repubs. I see a split coming right down the middle of the Repub party. Bummer!

******

That even had my mouth hanging open ……😀

7 10 2008
Crazy In Alaska

I thought McCain acted a little bit like Sarah tonight.

7 10 2008
Rebecca

and now to pick at the first part of the phrase…shouldn’t she have said “doesn’t define higher taxes as UN-patriotic”?

7 10 2008
Denise

McCain is so mavericky…ick…ick…ick

His Repub buddies are thinking ICK about his mortgage plan. Way to rally the troops Commander in McChief.

7 10 2008
Crystal D.

KO asks, “Why, after the debate, did the Obamas stick around for 15 mins.,
talking to the people, and shaking hands, while the McInsanes “got out of
Dodge” as fast as they could ?”
It’s because, McCain, just like Chaney, can’t stand the ‘rest’ of humanity.
They feel we are so beneath them, they are doing us a favor to even look at
us. Smirking, not smiling. Sneering, not grinning.

7 10 2008
mvngfwd

I thought it was weird that at the end when the Obamas stayed and shook hands, took pictures etc.. And where were the McCains? They left the building! Apparently that did not go over well with the in-house audience. Must have needed to run and give ol’ Mc another shot of vitamin B.

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Aussie and all..

When McInsane made the Buy all mortgages i almost gagged..

I think the press people missed it though.. he said he wanted to buy all the mortgages then sell them back to the owners at market rates..

Who else picked up that part of his comment?

7 10 2008
Crazy In Alaska

Oh, the other thing I loved is that McCain talked all about how he is against PORK, but yet he voted for the bailout which included something like 125 billion in PORK!

7 10 2008
JBDC

OMG! On Fox they have a live-time who-won-the-debate poll at the bottom of the screen and it is 86% for McCain, 12% for Obama, 1% Undecided. HAHAHHAHHAAHA! ok, I had to laugh because that is EXACTLY, and I mean EXACTLY the same distribution after the Palin/Biden debate. Hmmmm, I wonder if those text message votes they are encouraging are actually being counted, or if this is a standard graphic they have on file… Poor Fox News. So NOT fair and balanced…..

7 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Well, I’m signing off for tonight. Since we are now back to not knowing if AKM is a he or a she, I am now going to start to post my recurring heartfelt accolade to the revealed women here on the Mudflats that have kept us all going through this ordeal with their posts. I think there are more women on here than men. I am a guy and I salute all of you!

On Election Day when we all go ashore for our nation, I would be honored to go in the boat with any of you.

7 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Liz S (18:39:53) :

Over on the right is a Palin Baby name generator—go and get one!

7 10 2008
mvngfwd

Ditto back Hamlets!

7 10 2008
prettybrown

ok where are the polls I am ready to vote. I did see any one list any and I didnt see it at Dailykos.

7 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

My question is this: Why in the world has McCain been whining about having Barack do these town hall meetings with him?

McCain may look okay on his own, but he looks like hell next to Barack!

7 10 2008
califpat

I was a little anxious before the debate but after I saw that our guy had the situation under control, I settled back and enjoyed the debate, whooping and hollering and yelling and applauding along with my husband. Senator Obama was magnificent and did us proud. He looked so presidential. I feel so good tonight. I know Palin will be out bright and early spewing Ayers, terrorist and Wright. But tonight I’m just going to savor this good feeling.

7 10 2008
JBDC

@ HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (19:53:57)

On Election Day when we all go ashore for our nation, I would be honored to go in the boat with any of you.
———————————–

Awwwww. That made me a little misty-eyed…. I’d go ashore with all you guys too! Hell, if we stormed the beaches together armed with our knowledge and love of country and hope for the future, the McPalinites would tremble in fear, drop their lipstick, and run for the hills!

November 4 approaches fast. Keep fighting the Good Fight!
Oh-bama, Oh-eight, Oh-yes!

7 10 2008
Sheesh aka Puck Mule Palin

Even my solidly conservative husband had to admit that Obama mopped up McCain with this ‘town hall’. The reasons?

McCain looked old, tense and tired.

He rarely answered the question and in many ways reminded me of Palin’s ‘mini stump speech’ strategy of grabbing whatever stump speech came closest to the question.

McCain’s attempts at humor were embarrassingly lame.

His demeanor was snarky and condescending, full of tired sound bites. When the camera caught him as Obama was speaking you could see that condescention written all over his face.

His talking points were easily rebuffed and refuted.

In short, in a format in which it is claimed he does well, he performed abysmally. And in short, my husband who would have held his nose and voted for McCain just can’t bring himself to do it now….he’ll be writing in a candidate.

‘My Friends’, I thought the first debate was essentially a tie with the tip of the hat to Obama for appearing presidential. This debate clearly and comfortably goes to Obama.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (19:57:37) :

My question is this: Why in the world has McCain been whining about having Barack do these town hall meetings with him?

McCain may look okay on his own, but he looks like hell next to Barack!
————————————————————

He must have thought that he would somehow be able to control the questions, and the audience, as he does in his bogus town halls.

7 10 2008
Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin)

“Good luck, and don’t be without hope. As you well know, “Christian” is NOT synonymous with “racist” or “stupid”, although it is sometimes “selectively informed”. If you’re willing to try, you may change some minds.

BTW, for full disclosure, I was raised Protestant, but am now, I suspect, agnostic.”

Strangelet,

Thanks again! And I appreciate your recognition that “Christian” is not synonymous with “racist” or “stupid” more than I can tell you. In fact, I sometime have to remind myself of that, particularly in light of my MIL’s view of this election. She actually used the “n” word speaking of Barack Obama. I can’t even manage to type the word here!

Who knows, though, maybe I will change some minds.

Thanks for the “full disclosure” as well! And here’s my full disclosure: I’m not trying to change your mind with this next statement! I’ll just say that not only do I have hope for a much improved America after this election, but I plan to follow that up with an eternity in Heaven – an even better hope than the one I have for America, and it does keep me going.

Have a wonderful evening!

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

McCain sounded almost pornographic when he pointed at Obama and said ‘that one’..

McCain is the creepy old man who looks like he’d be perfectly at home sitting on a park bench staring at little children. Is it just me or does he look like a pedophile. I don’t think he is, he just looks like what you’d think one looks like.

7 10 2008
trig

Obama: kicking ass and taking names!

Very cool how Obama was there for an extra half-hour shaking the hands of EVERYONE in the audience and taking photos with most. McCain left pretty quickly – probably to get his beauty rest.

7 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein Palin)

Lighthouse (or Sport Grunt Hussein Palin) (20:21:04) :

I sincerely wish that both of your hopes prove true.

G’nite.

7 10 2008
trig

Boy, I got stinking drunk with the “My Friends” drinking game.
Tell McCain to shut the hell up with that already!

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

Interesting point on MSNBC…

McCranky never once mentioned ‘middle class’ now in two debates..

He’s rich and that’s all he cares about.

7 10 2008
Marty Hussein Wolf Lover Idiot Hater

My friends.. I don’t even know you and certainly don’t like any of you.. ! That was in his thought bubble..

7 10 2008
Lock Pepper Palin

mvngfwd (19:39:07) :

I have to admit it….

I have a serious crush on Obama now. I had one before but I am gushy now.

You and me too, Sistah! Only I can’t tell my husband who rides the fence–he doesn’t understand the inspiration that Senator obama raises in me–it’s really not sexual–it’s more “I want to be a better person for him!”

My poor husband is trying to talk my cat into chasing a mythical household critter–we’re not sure if it’s a gecko, a mouse or a rat…

My sweet husband just admitted that he would vote for Obama after the “shit ass” rebublicans ruined the economy–I guess I’ll stay married to him…LOL!
O’Biden O8–rock on!

7 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

FYI — Yesterday the National Organization for Women, the nation’s largest and oldest women’s rights organization, endorsed Obama-Biden in a rare endorsement.

Take that McPain and you extremist right-wing feminist-haters!

7 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

Did McPain really recommend Meg Whitman from eBay for Treasury? They announced a 1,600 employee layoff today. Great choice!

8 10 2008
rachelbirds

The debate was fun
to watch — McCain clearly hates
Obama. Not bad.

http://thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/october-8-2008/

8 10 2008
R. Trinket Palin

For the people who’ve been getting an E-mail about “the Real Obama” segment on Sean Hannity: Hannity’s “source” is Andrew Martin, a confirmed anti-Semite: In 1986, when Mr. Martin ran as a Democrat for Connecticut’s 3rd Congressional District seat under the name “Anthony R. Martin-Trigona,” his campaign committee filed papers saying its purpose was to “exterminate Jew power in America and impeach U.S. District Court of Appeals judges in New York City.”
The Washington Times’ reporter, Ralph Z. Hallow, went on to say: “a Connecticut federal judge finally barred him from filing any more federal lawsuits without permission. The judge said Mr. Martin has pursued legal actions with ‘persistence, viciousness, and general disregard for decency and logic.'”
Hallow went on:
In a New York bankruptcy case, he referred to a judge as a “crooked, slimy Jew.” During the bankruptcy dispute, he filed a civil-rights lawsuit claiming Jewish bankruptcy judges and lawyers were conspiring to steal his property. He asked a court to bar “any Jew from having anything to do with plaintiff’s property.”
In another motion in the case, he wrote: “I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did, when Jew survivors are operating as a wolf pack to steal my property.”

I don’t remember which site this article was on, unfortunately–it could be TNR, but you get the picture. The Washington Times is the highly conservative paper owned by the Unification Church, not leftie at all.

Sean was challenged last night about tolerating anti-Semitism of this sort and of course came back with Ayres, Ayres, Ayres.

8 10 2008
Jamie, expat in France

Did anyone notice that McCain kept trying to be cute and funny? His advisors must have told him that the public thought he was tense and angry in the first debate and he had to lighten up and appear human. It only made him look like somebody’s cranky old grandpa who keeps saying “Cool, Dude!” and “Wassup?” in front of his teen grandson’s friends in order to look hip. He thinks he’s nailed it, but he only looks more pathetic and embarrasses the hell out of his grandkids.
As per debate #1, McCain (aside from those moments where he was trying to be cute and funny) was condescending to both Obama and the audience and so annoying (“my friends”, my foot!) and though I must admit he did do somewhat better than in the first debate, he still didn’t really explain his plans, and Obama was presidential, clear and precise, calm and thoughtful. So can anyone explain to me WHY HAS THE RACE TIGHTENED SINCE YESTERDAY??

8 10 2008
Virginia resident

A Virginian here. I predict a Macaca moment for McCain in the next debate. First debate — wouldn’t look at Obama. Second debate — “That one!” Third debate — …?

9 10 2008
Amarie4911

Thanks for the entertainment and the laughs.

10 10 2008
Sandy Beach

Reports are being distributed NOW!

10 10 2008
Sandy Beach

Vote was 12-0 YES

10 10 2008
Taupe Armageddon Palin

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




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