Palin-Biden Debate Countdown!

2 10 2008

The most anticipated Vice Presidential debate in history will begin in just a few short hours.

  • I will be live blogging the debate here at the Mudflats blog.
  • If you want to chat live with fellow Mudflatters during the debate, go HERE where Sephyroth and your other wonderful Mudflats volunteers will be hosting and moderating the event. Tune in about 1/2 hour before the debate begins at 5:00 Alaska time. (6:00 Pacific Time, 9:00EST)
  • To print out your very awesome Debate Bingo card, go HERE. You can print one of four bingo cards, or make your own!
  • You still have time to run to the store if you need adult beverages, Pepto Bismol, Tums, popcorn and Jujubees.

So, what will it be?

She’s set the bar so low, that anything will make her look good?

Blizzard of words, and comedy gold for Tina Fey?

Katie Couric style blank stares, and evasion?

Pitbull with lipstick goes for Joe Biden’s throat?

A slow motion trainwreck?

The ‘old’ Sarah Palin who sounded like she knew what she was doing in the Alaska gubernatorial debate?

Wired (or wirelessed) like Bush in 2004?

The outdoor debate prep by the creek was the secret and she now has a staggering command of economics, international relations, and global politics?

Any pre-debate predictions, Mudflatters?


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2 10 2008
jimstaro

They had Better Not come back tomorrow with some sort of Sexist Bullshit used against Palin, Biden should go after her like he or anyone would for the Job Both are Vying for Vice President, if she can’t Take The Heat than Get The Hell Out Of The Kitchen and let the Fired Cook take over!!!!!!!!!

2 10 2008
soCalGal

Whilst mudpuppies are waiting to watch the Big Event and Maverick Numero Duo…or during the commericials…this is a must read. Pass it on.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

2 10 2008
soCalGal
2 10 2008
TJ

Hitting the store on my way home from work, expecting 10+ people for our party tonight.

Also, the OBAMA channel has launched, at least on Dish Network. Should show up on channel 73. Is it on other providers as well? DirecTV/Comcast?

2 10 2008
jimstaro

Ahhh, a Rolling Stone reader and from sunny S. Cal..

Good pick on the source and the reports.

2 10 2008
Anonymous

I’m in canuckistan without cable. Where’s a good source on the web to watch the debates? CNN? For the first debate, I hung out with a friend who has cable, but she has guests over tonight and doesn’t want me there.

2 10 2008
moosemamaforobama

Check out Palin McCain top advisor Homer Simpson – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrCkE1CNgNQ

2 10 2008
GossG

I’m in canuckistan without cable. Where’s a good source on the web to watch the debates? CNN? For the first debate, I hung out with a friend who has cable, but she has guests over tonight and doesn’t want me there.

2 10 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P.

They have come up with all the excuses already for her poor performance. That is very telling in itself. My bets lie with the fact that she’ll come out swinging at Biden, but will lose steam and ammunition as the time passes. If the debate was 20 minutes, she’s got enough material crammed inside her skull to limp along. She’ll never last 90.

I have an idea for a drinking game. Every time she stops, purses her lips and can’t seem to come up with an answer, it’s time to slug one down. Make sure you have something to eat before you start!!! I think this will happen often after the first 30 minutes.

Does anyone know if there are follow-up questions allowed? Because we know she’s the Princess of Put-off.

Go Joe!! Mop the floor, in your best suit.

2 10 2008
pvazwindy

Just saw a pic of SP debarking the plane in St. Louis. Hair down over ears, hand bandaged, Hmm. Looks suspect to me!

2 10 2008
SexyC

If Palin what to stomp with the big dogs than she should roll with the best of ’em.

And, lets make sure she not wearing a mic. Also, I think she has done herself enough justice for the century.

2 10 2008
middleclassmom

I’m going to tally her responses in these possible categories: (1) non-answer; (2) incoherent non-answer; (3) Biden attack; (4) snarky answer; (5) promises natural gas for the lower 48 by next Tuesday.

2 10 2008
FiredUp AKA Falter Locust Palin

McCain has already started the spin- he “just” found out that Gwen Ifill is writing a book about black politicians so now he is questioning her impartiality so that any time she is tough on Palin, it is obviously a “partisan” move.

2 10 2008
maribelle1963

Predictions:

~Palin will surprise people by being more articulate this time. She will have less “word salad” moments.
~She will be surprisingly biting and/or even cruel at times (like she was at the convention)–(why this passes as “small town values” I can’t imagine.)
~That will leave Joe Biden room to get in at least one memorable “zinger” — hopefully as good as “noun, verb and 9/11”
~Biden will also surprise people with how eloquent, impassioned and intelligent he is. He’s been doing the tough ground work on the campaign trail while Ms. Palin has gotten most of the limelight.
~Also, he’s scrappy and down-home, and belies the whole “elite” nonsense. Some people are going to really like Joe that probably didn’t expect to.
~They will each have at least one gaffe or misspeak, and at least one memorable soundbite.

~At the end of the day, the American people, who are not idiots but very susceptible to marketing, will realize they need their money’s worth, and that the articulate, educated, experienced senator is the one we really need as second-in-line in such dangerous times.

(PS–I love your blog, it’s a new “must stop” place for me.)

2 10 2008
carolyn AKA Speck Backfire

pvazwindy (13:31:55) :

Just saw a pic of SP debarking the plane in St. Louis. Hair down over ears, hand bandaged, Hmm. Looks suspect to me!
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Hand bandaged…what the POOP is that about. Am I getting paraniod……UHHHHHH YEAH

2 10 2008
fawnskin chipdragon mudpuppy

ok, i want this “wired” conspiracy documented.
we need to see the photos.

(and i’m all for conspriracy theories !)

2 10 2008
kittyy wonka

I so want to see a big huge crashed and burned pitbull a la her stellar performance during her interview with Couric. But, I suspect that she’ll exceed expectations which have been set to an unbelievable low. She won’t be brilliant. She won’t be stunning. She’ll get a few zingers in. But…all the pundits will be surprised. And she’ll most probably be wired. Er.r…. Wirelessed.

I’m really not happy about the 7-hour time difference for me. I won’t be able to watch it live. And I so want to play Debate Bingo!

Enjoy fellow Mudflatians…

2 10 2008
tspey

Predictions:

1. Tina Fey will leave her successful post at 30 Rock to pursue a lucrative career in imitating Palin as after the debate, Fey is presented with a lifetime of Emmy-winning juicy bits.

2. SP will faint like the boy during the Nat’l spellling bee and be rushed to a hospital thus avoiding the debate.

3. SP will exceed al expectations and McCain will win. This is the funniest line I have ever written… ever.

4. SP will fall well below expectations and bow out disgracefully, screaming all the way. She will return to an Alaska full of anger and will not win re-election for governor. In the end, Palin will be in charge all right… she will be the person manning the Abortion booth next to the Turkey Leg booth at the Alaska State Fair.

2 10 2008
Spaz

Crash and Burn, Crash and Burn.

2 10 2008
otisNYC

apparently, she tripped and fell while running @ McCain’s ranch…

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/10/bandaged.html

I guess she’s accident prone — or just really nervous about tonight!

2 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor

Word from over at the Mudflats Forum is that someone was on MSNBC saying SWWNBN was jogging and fell and hurt her wrist, hence the bandage… Someone better check that thing for a wire or a transmitter though!

2 10 2008
mvngfwd

Reposting because we jumped…

Good Afternoon Mudpals! I greet you this afternoon with great news from Florida….

A little background is needed for this story. My husband has a friend whose family is very conservative, very rich ($200 mill+), and against every cause I believe in basically. Over the years they have enjoyed engaging me in heated debate (I usually win since I do my homework;) and we have agreed to disagree on many occasions.

Well, this morning my husband got a call from this friend and he said he was at the local Democratic office to change his voter registration. When my husband asked why he said “I’ve had it…I just can’t vote for that crazy B%^*@h and I think McCain has lost it. We are willing to pay 5% more in taxes if it means keeping that lunatic out of the White House. I’m not saying I am voting FOR Obama but our votes will be going to him”. This means 8 formerly Rep Florida votes will be moving to the Obama side. I also know that this guy has a big mouth and will probably tell everyone he knows about it too. Then, still basking in that ray of sunshine, I get another call from a friend in Aventura (Jewish stronghold here) and he tells me that his friend Sy (whom I have also been “educating”) said he just can’t vote for McCain so he might not vote at all. He mentioned that he and his set (Jewish seniors) are afraid of Palin too. I still have 30 days to help him decide on Obama but at least I know McCain will not be getting his vote.

I realize that the election is still 30+ days away but I see a trend here in Florida and I LIKE IT! I’ll have said it before and I will say it again “Keep the light shining Mudpuppies because it is working”.

ps- Champagne is chilling for tonight’s event and the Bingo cards are printed and ready to go!!!

2 10 2008
epic

Hand bandaged…what the POOP is that about. Am I getting paraniod……UHHHHHH YEAH

That’s where the electric shock behaviour reinforcment wire was clipped on

2 10 2008
AlaskaGuy

I think she’ll do well enough to keep the status quo, and then we’ll not hear a peep from her for 4 weeks. If she bombs we’ll not hear a word from her ever again.

The reports are that she’ll attack Biden, while he’ll concentrate on McCain. Even if she does surprisingly well, and he’s a complete dud, I don’t think it will change things.

I’ve been instructed by the wife to drink three beers BEFORE the debate starts so that I have some chance to keep my cool.🙂 I should probably start soon.

2 10 2008
Bellaboo Kahki Salmon/Log Justice Palin

Lord, I rarely ask for anything, in fact, I can’t remember the last time we had a little conversation but please, oh, please, can you make sister Sarah just implode or explode, either way, it’s time for me to focus on other items such as finishing a long over due article, grocery shopping, just generally living a Palin free life. I’ve been been stuck here in the mudflats for weeks now and I am afraid that I really need to get my life back. A dramatic finale to Palin Goes to the Mainland would be a nice way to end the evening. Thank you. Sister Bellaboo KhakiSalmon Log Justice Palin.

2 10 2008
phoebe

@pvazwindy

Maybe they just installed the brain.

2 10 2008
Terry

Her clothes will come off and she will be raptured from the debate floor desperately trying to take Joe with her. Putin will rear his head over St. Louis and rescue Joe. Or, it could be a draw.

2 10 2008
epic

So let me get this right.

Joe’s going to be sexist to her. Gwen’s secretly working for the Democrats.
Everybody hates her. AND she’s got a poorly hand!!

2 10 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

Watching CNN and listening to Lou Dobbs rant on. He’s difficult to watch since he over-bleached his lower teeth. Too bright. Hurts eyes. Flourescent.

2 10 2008
phoebe

Piper for VP!!

2 10 2008
epic

and the wire’s making her ear itchy

2 10 2008
shilo

I’m that nervous I feel like I’m doing the debate tonight. Hope this ends like Humpty Dumpty…………..All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t put Humpty together again. Humpty Dumpty Palin

2 10 2008
habitual

I predict LIES. Unheralded, radical, nonsensical LIES that will be so convoluted and skewed that Joe will be shocked and it will wear on him. To a point where he will have to put his head in his hands and SP will smile for the camera, possibly even wink.

*is this too pessimistic? I’m trying to be pessimistic so that I don’t feel let down….lol

2 10 2008
Prole Art Threat

Sitting here in the UK eagerly waiting for the debate, starts at 1am our time late night ahead! Time to get the beers in!

2 10 2008
squee

Thanks for this! I just sent the link for the cards to a bunch of my friends, even the republicans🙂

Oh, hope you don’t mind but I’m calling it……. Pingo!

And since I’ve decided to make Pingo a drinking game, I do need to head to the store for more of those adult beverages (no six packs for me though! I’m too elite)🙂

2 10 2008
habitual

Or….the other option, let’s call it the SNL version: the feed in her ear will be working overtime because there will be so many people trying to keep her on track and feeding her w o r d s that it will short out and electrocute her! *zap* *zap* *zap*

A girl can dream, right?

2 10 2008
akmuckraker

UPDATE!
No mistrial! Stevens trial will continue. Whew….

I updated the last post.

2 10 2008
carolyn AKA Speck Backfire

InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor (13:49:24) :

Word from over at the Mudflats Forum is that someone was on MSNBC saying SWWNBN was jogging and fell and hurt her wrist, hence the bandage… Someone better check that thing for a wire or a transmitter though!
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ohhhhhh Thank you. I’m glad that I’m not the only one that had that thought.I think I have watched too many James Bond movies. These people will stop at nothing.

2 10 2008
rachelbirds

Ifill will pull a
“gotcha” don’tcha know; Palin’ll
be gosh darn folksy.

http://www.thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com

2 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P. (13:30:01) :

They have come up with all the excuses already for her poor performance. That is very telling in itself. My bets lie with the fact that she’ll come out swinging at Biden, but will lose steam and ammunition as the time passes. If the debate was 20 minutes, she’s got enough material crammed inside her skull to limp along. She’ll never last 90.

I have an idea for a drinking game. Every time she stops, purses her lips and can’t seem to come up with an answer, it’s time to slug one down. Make sure you have something to eat before you start!!! I think this will happen often after the first 30 minutes.

Does anyone know if there are follow-up questions allowed? Because we know she’s the Princess of Put-off.

Go Joe!! Mop the floor, in your best suit.
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Ripley,

I am going with your analysis also. This is exactly how I see it too. It will be a blizzard of words on pure narcissist sociopathic energy for 30 minutes. Then she will start to waver for the next 15 minutes. Look for it. Then total ever accelerating implosion for the last 45 minutes. Then it will be what the Obama campaign strategy has figured out to be the best course. Run her into the Atlantic Ocean or let her what is left of her to escape in strategic retreat to Dunkirk. As history recorded, the German Army chose wrong. But it is a hard call. Since this is dumbed down American politics in 2008, I would not bayonet her if i were Joe Biden. Just play dumb. The worldwide cameras are rolling. Let her think she can escape to the Dunkirk of right wing talk radio. I caught Hannity on the radio a bit while out doing errands this afternoon. He was already spinning the “crucifixion of poor Sarah by the left wing MSM” meme as a pre-set up outcome. I say let her escape with her life. I would play for just getting as many idiotic sound bytes out of Little Queenie as possible over the whole 90 minutes. Just take it one series of downs by possession at a time. Play ball control and temp control until she starts throwing interceptions. Let it all add up for a total loss for McCantPalina in the end. Biden should just jab, jab jab on the rope-a-dope in and out with her. Every now and then get in close and throw an upper cut to her jaw. No right cross for a knockout. Then dance back out with footwork and mover her around the ring. Let her keep going. I’m ready. I’ve got my mental images ready. Got popcorn and diet Dr. Pepper (my fave) on hand. I don’t think i will have to resort to anything stronger like i did in the RNC appearance. I can stomach the spectacle of her a little better now. But I have only dared watch the Gibson and Couric interviews in very small sections at a time on Yourtube. But I think I can take it tonight head on because they will be switching back and forth. If not, I will switch to AKM’s Live Blog play by play or the Live Chat with the TV sound off. Can I take that voice for 90 minutes? But there will be two alternative ways to experience it now thanks to Mudflats and our dear AKM’s electronic spruce rafter lodge in the Great White North.

Remember, underneath her projected psyche is something this delusional going on in her psychological system of self-definition. No mentally stable person with her limited experience in life would EVER put themselves or the people around them in this position without major problems going on under the surface. Major psychopathology can last 30-45 minutes on the world stage. After that, it is like going to a major college Division IA or Professional pre-season training football camp out of shape. You can last two days on guts. On the thoird day you are in very real trouble.

No matter what face she puts on it, this is what is happening under the surface:

Yes. I read the Rolling Stone articles too. They are BOTH sociopaths now in a dance of psychological fatal attraction. They are now in a psychologically symbiotic relationship feeding each other to completely reckless political oblivion. Neither of them should EVER be allowed to get anywhere near the Oval Office. Never.

She is going down. Just get the sound bytes tonight for later running the bayonet through her. Sorry for the graphic military language.

But this is my country. Enough is enough.

Be strong and steady all Mudflatters worldwide tonight!

Patience. Patience. And then flashing blades.

Just like the example of the Alaskan women taking sustained action on their turf.

2 10 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

soCalGal (13:21:20) :

Oh and don’t forget this one…

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23318320/mad_dog_palin
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Terrific article re “Mad Dog Palin” – thanks soCalGal

2 10 2008
NoCalGal

Alaska Guy- Terry

You made me laugh!!

“I’ve been instructed by the wife to drink three beers BEFORE the debate starts so that I have some chance to keep my cool. I should probably start soon.”

“Her clothes will come off and she will be raptured from the debate floor desperately trying to take Joe with her. Putin will rear his head over St. Louis and rescue Joe. Or, it could be a draw.”

Ifil is just there to ASK the questions.. and press for answers… Questions cannot be partial.. unless of course they ask Biden if he wants a pillow…😉

I love this site! It always makes me think AND laugh. I so appreciate you all! I can hardly WAIT to see what observations you come up with tonight…

And I too will be quaffing some champagne…

2 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Ok getting ready for the debate. I have my bell ready and I am going to ring it every time I hear a non answer or a ring around the rosie answer. My friend has a score card and will keep the tally.

Why do I keep hearing “Tell me Lies, Tell me sweet little Lies” running through my brain? Could this be the next theme song for the McCain/Palin ticket?

2 10 2008
jimstaro

No mistrial! Stevens trial will continue. Whew….

That is good, hadn’t caught it yet. This also took abit of wind out of the debate especially for some Indies, hearing what they are about Palin than have Stevens name popup today, not good for Mac!!

2 10 2008
Cronopio

An engineer over on DailyKos pretty handily debunked the whole earpiece theory here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/2/151314/450/388/617950

See ya in chat, mudders!

2 10 2008
Gryphen

Well Muckraker I am glad that you are watching this debate the way debates are supposed to be watched these days, at home on your own television while typing your opinions down and sending them out into cyberspace. How else would any political blogger worth their salt spend an evening like this?

Certainly not is some bar with a bunch of drunken lowbrow types yelling advice to Palin or Joe Biden.

I have a standing arrangement to spend this festive time with my other political blogging friends on another site, but I may have to check back here a few times just to see how the Mudflatters “do” a debate.

2 10 2008
kokofish palin

@mvnfwd

“…he said “I’ve had it…I just can’t vote for that crazy B%^*@h and I think McCain has lost it. We are willing to pay 5% more in taxes if it means keeping that lunatic out of the White House. I’m not saying I am voting FOR Obama but our votes will be going to him”.
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Excellent work!
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Predictions:
1. She’ll wear pink/black or Navy, white with American flag.
2. John M. will be throwing up at a undisclosed location.
3. Joe Biden will be Joey from Scranton and mop the floor with her.
4. All 4 of my Palin Bingo Cards will be filled in first 30 minutes.

2 10 2008
lemonfair

Apparently Gwen doesn’t have a lot of (any?) ability to do follow-up, so I’m thinking SP will be able to pull up a pat answer for whatever she’s asked.

The difficulty for her will be if Gwen finds topics to ask about that aren’t expected. But she’s really going to have to ask about things we all think are important, which doesn’t give her a lot of leeway for the unexpected.

There was a time I thought this would finish off Palin, and I’m not so sure now. Then I looked for the Troopergate report to do it, and I didn’t realize that it could be suppressed.

I need some words of encouragement. Anyone?

2 10 2008
NoCalGal

Yes lemonfair

wouldn’t you love it if Ifil asked things like:

Do you believe dinosaurs and mankind were on the earth at the same time?

Did you at one time endorse Obama’s energy plan?

Do you think the USA should support Israel without pre conditions? (the Iran question turned another way)

Why has your campaign not released your tax records?

Why has your campaign not released your medical records?

2 10 2008
kruseski

Check out that photo of her “practicing the debate” at the McSame ranch…
See that giant tree trunk looking like it is going to fall and crush her?
That is what I predict for that most disgustingly stupid woman…a crushing defeat.
I cannot wait to see her catastrophe tonight as she proves to the world she is dumb as a box of rocks…
Go OBAMA/BIDEN

2 10 2008
soCalGal

These are just too amuzing not to share…Good half-time entertainment:

Sister Sarah is coming to The sunny OC on Saturday and look forward to giving her a glorious un-welcome. This is Repug territory so I hope my fellow SoCal-ers will come on down (or up) to Costa Mesa, CA and join me in sending her back to her tanning bed and moosemeat pies.

Thanks JimStaro…yup good readin’ for sure.

AKM…you make my day and year for that matter. We love you! Great, great great work!

2 10 2008
WVU Employee

I am really nervous about the debate. I am so afraid she will come off semi-coherent and everyone will think she’s wonderful. I’m not sure I can watch! I need reassurance.

2 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Revlon Red Palin

McCain Gives Up on Michigan

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate John McCain conceded battleground Michigan to the Democrats on Thursday, GOP officials said, a major retreat as he struggles to regain his footing in a campaign increasingly dominated by economic issues.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD93IK4I80

2 10 2008
sawrad

OK … Palin Bingo idea had me laughing so hard, I was (literally) in tears. Thanks!

2 10 2008
democratista

Thanks for those Palin Bingo cards….I thought maybe I’d instigate an “everybody drink” game based on a word….would have chosen “reformer” but this works great….especially since I don’t drink!!!

2 10 2008
Dan

NYTimes today pointed out that McCain’s Choice did not participate in trade missions to Russia.

“TRADE Ms. Palin does not appear to have made any trade missions since taking office, and former state officials said the state’s trade staff had been reduced under her watch.

Alaska has also sharply reduced its role in the Northern Forum, an association of state and regional governments from countries including Canada, Russia, Japan and China that works on common issues in northern regions like economic development, flooding and global warming.

Under Mr. Murkowski, Ms. Palin’s predecessor, the state sent senior administration officials to the forum’s meetings and contributed $60,000 to $100,000 to the forum each year, according to the forum’s executive director, Priscilla Wohl.

Under Ms. Palin, the state has reduced its spending to the base-level membership dues, $15,000, and the administration has not attended any forum meetings, including one last fall in Russia.

“Had she participated, in the last 18 months she would have met ambassadors, governors, heads of the European Union’s programs, of United Nations programs,” Ms. Wohl said.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/02/us/politics/02issues.html?em

Ironic huh… she passed on a legitimate reason to go to Russia, and meet notables of foreign countries.

2 10 2008
TexChick

WVU Employee,

I thought I was the only one afraid to watch. It’s like watching my country melt before my eyes. Palin is a performer, an actress. She plays the role of “Governor,” “Mother,” “Common Woman.” That’s why she craters in one-on-one sessions. There is no there there. But in an arena setting, with lights, pizazz, audience, she feeds on the stage energy and clicks into performance mode, and like an actress she’ll pull off what she does best. Deliver the lines, wife-chop Joe, smirk, and use the accent. That’s why my husband is taking me out to dinner. I’m a wimp.

2 10 2008
2 10 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

I have been listening dutifully to McCain, Giuliani, Stapleton et all, to make sure I understand the correct way to evaluate tonite’s debate. I think it is clear now.
First, if Sarah does well, that is because Gwen Ifill is a professional, tough journalist (you know, like Sean Hannity).
If Sarah does not do well, it is because Ifill is a sleazy left-wing Obama-loving hack.
If Ifill asks any factual questions or followups, refer to the sleazy hack argument.
You are not allowed to judge the debate based on intelligence. You are forewarned that IQ is off the table.
This leaves the scorecard with only one box to check: personality yes/no.
Fortunately, to save you the trouble, Nancy Pfotenhauer will provide you with the answer immediately after the debate.
Clear, everybody?

2 10 2008
squee

SoCalGal – is there an Anti- rally planned?

Details, plz

2 10 2008
NoCalGal

Some voters like to be on bandwagons.. to support the WINNER…

Does **THIS** sound like a winner????

“McCain Gives Up on Michigan

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate John McCain conceded battleground Michigan to the Democrats on Thursday, GOP officials said, a major retreat as he struggles to regain his footing in a campaign increasingly dominated by economic issues.”

Having said that- the RNC is still running their ads in MI.. so it is a little disingenuous..

2 10 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P.

Dear God:

Please let her cry, if the tears fall down like rain……(thank you Hootie!)

2 10 2008
Deb

please please please!! no crying!! there’s no crying in politics!!! PLEASE!!!!

2 10 2008
Tonya_Okla

McCain Camps Spin: Palin doesn’t need to pass an IQ test.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/mccain-camps-pre-debate-s_n_131295.html

The American people don’t care if she knows the answers??

(Translation: She’s gonna suck!!)

2 10 2008
A Fan from Chicago

She is who she is. Or at least as I’ve come to know her over the last month from Mudflats and Katie Couric. Truth is you can put lipstick on a pig but…..

I agree with earlier posts that she may come out swinging and maybe even hold her own for a while but it won’t last. At some point she’ll revert to the pretzel logic, chopped salad, Fibber Magee closet, pagent contestant answers that she has demonstrated in the interviews.

And then game, set, match.

Keep the faith, all is well, and don’t drink too much!

2 10 2008
Deb

ok…let me amend that “no crying” comment…no crying unless it is a TOTAL meltdown…as in…they have to carry her off the stage!

2 10 2008
NoCalGal

If any of you are into Bluegrass music- you know who Ralph Stanley is.. well he just put out a radio ad in VA… where they LOVE Bluegrass. It hits on all the right points- and tells no lies… give a listen

Verrry smart campaigning.

Radio spot currently airing in Virginia.

http://www.folo.us/2008/10/02/ralph-stanley-cuts-the-best-radio-ad-of-the-cycle/

then read this… THESE are the reasons Obama will win.. who said community organizers are not savvy?

http://fultonsun.com/articles/2008/10/02/news/090news01.txt

2 10 2008
NoCalGal

Mudpuppies-

What questions do you think Ifil should ask??? I listed some.. come on- you all are VERY smart.. what straight forward, yet curiously revealing, questions would you want her to answer????

2 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Ok heading out the door.

Bell-check
Barf bag-check
Focused Glasses-check
snacks-check
Ear plugs (just incase the voice gets to me)-check
Sweat towel (just incase she shows some intelligence)

Last but not least tranqs- check, check and check

See you all later.

2 10 2008
mhrt

I talked to my mom today….she just got back from a trip to arkansas…..her family will not be voting this year…..yaaa ……less votes for Mcpalin this year…..arkansas is very red.

2 10 2008
enjay AKA Turbine Yukon

Only 2 short hours, 120 Minutes to PALIN IMPLOSION !!

We can only hope

2 10 2008
NoCalGal

“If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.”– Kathleen Parker

2 10 2008
Trini

PALIN BINGO….hehehehe. If I win, can I get a frozen turkey? I’m in! The card should have a spot for “one coherent sentence”.

SWWNBN is so tightly wired, narcissistic and sociopathic that it will only take a tiddley-wink toss from Biden to push her over the edge. If she can keep her cool, she might hold it together, but I think the odds on that are looooong. If she keeps her cool, it will be at the cost of licking her lips right off her face!

2 10 2008
Deb

McCain was here in Colorado today but I just found this nice contrast to his visit-colorful colorado looks good in blue!

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/53387.html

2 10 2008
NMJ

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (14:17:38) : Remember, underneath her projected psyche is something this delusional going on in her psychological system of self-definition.

We all are evaluating her as though she thinks and acts like any normal person would act under the same circumstances: Any normal person would be crushed, broken, and running for the door, long since. Come to think of it, no normal person would have walked through that door to begin with. SP is not a normal person.

Sarah Palin is a hellfire and brimstone Pentacostal who believes she is being forged in fire as a weapon for God. Not her words, but I think that pretty well sums up how she feels. Remember, she believes that God is personally putting her and everyone around her in position for a specific purpose. She believes with every fiber of her being that the End of Days is coming in her lifetime, and you better believe that she’s looking forward to it. If that’s what you unshakably believe, what’s a debate? What’s falling on your face a few times? What does anything that humans do matter?

She’s willing to do anything and everything, and say anything and everything necessary to get to that Oval Office, because wants to fulfill her destiny.

And that’s the last person I want near that red button.

2 10 2008
fixthebroken

Anybody but me think Palin has a greater than 50-50 chance of cheating tonight? If her hair is down, I raise the odds of having a receiver in the ear. And maybe this bandage she is wearing is some new technology.

I don’t trust the McCain campaign at all!

2 10 2008
NMJ

Oops…left out a word: …because *she* wants to fulfill her destiny.

2 10 2008
Deb

fix- given all the radio signals around that place tonight, she’d probably only pick up static…even if that weren’t the case, she isn’t adept enough at measuring her words to match it to anything being said to her, she would come out all jumbled…it wouldn’t help her much

2 10 2008
lemonfair

Socalgal and Dan

Right. It would be great to have Gwen frame a question as a gift to Palin – such as “Governor Palin. You’ve had foreign policy experience on trade missions with Russia. Can you tell us what was the approach and outcome for those missions?”

2 10 2008
portland oregon native

Thank you! Thank you!
If I couldn’t laugh, I would cry!

2 10 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin

@ Trini… well then thank God her lip liner is tatooed. Or not, but my goodness, it seriously looks like it🙂 Getting the wine and the bingo card ready.

2 10 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Had to check back one more time before I leave.

Trini: Your description is what I was thinking about McCain. He still held it together darn it!

As far as SP’s lips, I read on Huffpo that they are tattooed on!

2 10 2008
lemonfair

NMJ

Agree with you.

And because that’s true, she’s very likely to find a still small place of calm when it comes to this debate. The higher the stakes, the more likely she’ll be able to give up her ego and rely on God, which would very likely serve her well in this debate. Sigh.

2 10 2008
lemonfair

Oh. and she’ll have prayer partners who are praying for her through this debate. So I guess I’m going to have to pray for Joe through the debate.

2 10 2008
Pursang

1. By the halfway point of the debate Palin will be talking/sounding like Frances McDormand in Fargo.
2. As far as a Biden noun, verb, 9/11 slam…for Palin it with be noun, verb, what the hell kind of gibberish is that.
3. Palin will bring one, two, or all of her kids up on stage with her during the debate. Todd will be up in the back of the hall with cue cards but the MSM won’t report it for fear of angering the Reverse Ace.
4. I will not watch the debate because by the 3rd time she lies I’d chuck something threw my TV screen and I can’t afford that.

and finally

5. Palin will have several gaffes that in the words of todays wacky kids, will go viral.

2 10 2008
Trudger

Hey, you moved back!

Love the Palin bingo card.

Palin can’t lose this debate tonight. The bar has been set so low, as Kathleen Parker said, if she just correctly connects a noun and a verb in a sentence, she will exceed expectations.

2 10 2008
lemonfair

fixthebroken: I had thought that was a possibility, but someone up above linked to a great daily kos article explaining why that’s unlikely.

2 10 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P.

Deb (14:55:59) :

ok…let me amend that “no crying” comment…no crying unless it is a TOTAL meltdown…as in…they have to carry her off the stage!
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YES YES YES!!!! Oh, carrying her off the stage… oh the wonder of it all…..

Going to pop some corn now.

2 10 2008
Deb

lemon and nm-
god does have a way of playing tricks on us, especially when we get a bit too big for our britches! (i know, I once asked god and planned for a baby girl….that tricky god gave me the girl, but a boy as well…I had twins! god may have different plans than sarah has in mind🙂

2 10 2008
lemonfair

Trudger – well she won’t connect a noun and a verb in this debate, but she’ll still sound perversely like she’s making some kind of sense.

2 10 2008
NMJ

lemonfair (15:15:53) : Oh. and she’ll have prayer partners who are praying for her through this debate. So I guess I’m going to have to pray for Joe through the debate.

Maybe I should gear up the ol’ prayer wheel for Joe…if I can remember where I put it…

2 10 2008
A Fan from Chicago

Need to know but can’t find the reference.

Can someone spell out the acronym that people use to refer to her. It includes an S and several Ws but I don’t know what the reference is.

Thanks.

2 10 2008
Deb

she who will not be named

2 10 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P.

Oh, sorry I meant to point this out….

SWWNBN had clearly been working with a linguist. They have her pronouncing more actual letters in the alphabet.. Note how she enunciates the T at the end of many words now, with a very sharp “T” sound. We’ll see her using all that coaching early, while she thinks she’s in charge. Like I have said earlier, time will pass and we’ll begin to see the dripping. She’ll revert back to that fake accent which appeals to the less well-informed public.

2 10 2008
Laurie

SWWNBN

2 10 2008
soCalGal

Hi squee and interested parties: Info on the SP visit to SoCal on Saturday.
Saturday, Oct. 4, Sarah Palin in California:

•Home Depot Center, ADT Tennis Stadium, 18400 Avalon Blvd, Carson

•Doors open at 11:30 AM, and attendees must be seated by 1:30 PM.

• Tickets are only available through the McCain campaign, California@johnmccain.com

• Segerstrom Hall, OC Performing Arts Center, Saturday

• 3:30 p.m. Democratic protesters gather outside Segerstrom hall on Town Center drive

•4:30 p.m. Private Host Committee Reception, $10,000

• 5:00 p.m. Cocktail Reception, minimum contribution $1,000.

…and if you would like to ‘vote’ on SarahP’s hairdo…here’s a good one:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/debate-palin-2175885

See you on Saturday! Got the popcorn a poppin’ for tonight…actually I’ve got butterflies in my stomack kind of like just before going to my first junior prom…way back in ’64…ah the good ol days!

2 10 2008
NMJ

Deb (15:17:41) : god may have different plans than sarah has in mind

I don’t think she ever read that part about pride going before a fall!

2 10 2008
fixthebroken

Lemonfair, thanks! Great article about earpiece. I am less convinced that she will cheat now — but not 100% less convinced😉

2 10 2008
Lulu

I read the engineer’s piece on dailykos.com about how it’s nearly impossible to wire her. Maybe so. But I think they’ll try something..some way to signal her. She does “act,” and she will look for her “director” or “producer.”

BUT no matter what, I’m predicting Palin will do poorly. I think AT BEST she’ll only remember fifteen minutes worth of talking points. AT BEST. Trust me, the last 60 minutes of the “debate” will be disaster for her. She’s just such a poor study. And now she’s in pain because she hurt her hand? Is she on painkillers? That can’t help her in the debate.

2 10 2008
NMJ

soCalGal (15:22:01) : 3:30 p.m. Democratic protesters gather outside Segerstrom hall on Town Center drive

Thanks, soCalGal! I’m not far from Carson; see you there!

2 10 2008
Raingods

I’ll see you all in the chat room in about an hour, once I get home from work and don my moderator cap.

2 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Oh you wonderful mudpuppies! What would we do without you, AKM, Snos et.al.?

Ready here in NC for the Great (not) Debate…adult beverages, popcorn,guests, buckets, shovels, pitchforks and torches. We’re going to need them all, tonight, folks!

I have to admit, I never thought she’d show up. I really didn’t. But I’ve never understood that kind of delusional thinking, nor have I ever accepted it.

“Mean Girl” will, of course, make a brief appearance…she can’t help that, I guess. Then “Stumped Girl” will slip in. Ultimately “Stupid Girl” will peek out. But I tend to agree with others, here…90 minutes is a very long time.

She’ll land a few punches. She’ll, for once in her life, try to make it NOT about her, but about Obama and Joe and John.

Expect some incoherent critique of the bailout, and why John—–even though he brokered it—-only half-heartedly supported it after all the democratic add-ons.

She’ll mention her intimate discussions with world leaders (HA!).

It will be judged to be a draw.

Few, if any, minds will be changed by it.

But we’ll have had a fine time, won’t we?

2 10 2008
cal al

@soCalGal (14:35:28)

Where will Palin be on Saturday? Are there any anti palin rallies being organized?

I finally pick a day to seriously work for Obama and I may miss my chance to protest against the great miss-phalin

By the way, here is pre-debate read from the rude pundit. Be aware of the adult language content

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-biden-ought-to-say-rude-version-if.html

2 10 2008
Susan, Lower 48 (TN)

GossG (13:29:36) :

I’m in canuckistan without cable. Where’s a good source on the web to watch the debates? CNN? For the first debate, I hung out with a friend who has cable, but she has guests over tonight and doesn’t want me there.

Hey GossG — I may have missed it, but I don’t think you got an answer to your question. CNN works, as would MSNBC, but I’d probably recommend http://www.cspan.org.

Have fun everybody! Here in red TN, we have our bingo cards at the ready (to repeat info already posted I think: http://www.palinbingo.com) and will start popping the corn soon.

2 10 2008
NMJ

Lulu (15:26:03) : And now she’s in pain because she hurt her hand?

I’ve watched several clips of her holding her baby and debarking from the plane, and I can’t see any bandage on either hand. Am I missing something?

2 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P. (15:21:13) :

Oh, sorry I meant to point this out….

SWWNBN had clearly been working with a linguist. They have her pronouncing more actual letters in the alphabet.. Note how she enunciates the T at the end of many words now, with a very sharp “T” sound. We’ll see her using all that coaching early, while she thinks she’s in charge. Like I have said earlier, time will pass and we’ll begin to see the dripping. She’ll revert back to that fake accent which appeals to the less well-informed public.
———————————-

Here’s a good mental warm up to get ready for that moment on the implosion down elevator.

2 10 2008
cal al

@soCalGal (15:22:01)

Got the info from the above link.

I will be thinking of you guys while I am phoning for Obama

2 10 2008
MJC

Hey Guys, feel free to join our debate chatting session over at the Obama Sign link.

2 10 2008
Halcrow

Thanks, everybody, for the delightful commentary.

2 10 2008
Tatanisha

I hope that you all read this. Since it is the Obama’s 16th wedding anniversary tomorrow we want all Obama supporters to donate $16.00 to the campaign. I hope that you all decide to do it.

2 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

WVU Employee (14:37:36) :

Mudflats is your reassurance! West Virginia is being very brave these days—coal miners pulling a one day strike to protest NRA folks trying to get them to speak against Obama! That’s brave action!

You’re in good company tonight!

Go Mountaineers!

2 10 2008
rdenee

Did you catch the Couric interview tonight? They asked Biden and Palin the same questions and played their responses one after the other.

For the biggest mistake Cheney has made during VP – she seriously stated his duck hunting accident was the biggest mistake he has made as VP!!!!!!!!! WTF! Check it out about 2:45 into the clip. Sigh…

Here is the link to the current clip from tonights show on You Tube:

Save us please.

2 10 2008
responsiblecitizen08

I apologize if this is not a proper post, but if anyone wants to donate to the Obama/Biden campaign tonight, please do so at our group Bidenites for Barack. We are a group of people from across the country that supported Biden in the primaries and now are committed to getting Obama and Biden elected in November. I personally volunteered for Biden in Iowa and got a chance to meet him as his family. They are wonderful folks and Biden is definitely what this country needs. He and Barack are a great team. I hope he does well in the debate tonight and hope that the campaign raises a lot of money. Thank you. Again, I apologize if this is improper.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/maingroup/BidenitesforBarack

2 10 2008
Sourdough

Hey, the Bingo card left out “World Peace.” Don’t all beauty queens wish for world peace?

2 10 2008
soCalGal

Thanks Tatanisha

“I hope that you all read this. Since it is the Obama’s 16th wedding anniversary tomorrow we want all Obama supporters to donate $16.00 to the campaign. I hope that you all decide to do it.”

Will be donating my $16.00 and a Happy Anniversay to the Obama’s!

Barack Obama / One Spouse – One House

2 10 2008
TexChick

NoCalGal, Thank you thank you for the Ralph Stanley radio ad. I lived in those mountains of Southwest VA for 10 years, and he is a god there. Just listening to his voice soothes me, and that’s the kind of antidote I need to the shrill coarseness of Sarah Palin’s non-answers.

2 10 2008
Lulu

Check out this one-minute video and you will see EXACTLY how they have been prepping Palin at Debate Camp, especially her diction:

2 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

NoCalGal (14:59:21) :

Mudpuppies-

What questions do you think Ifil should ask???
————————————————————————–

Two days after Gwen was confirmed to moderate, I emailed this question to her:

Gov. Palin, John McCain has not supported equal pay for equal work for women.

Are you willing to accept a smaller percentage than the normal VP salary if you serve as Vice President?

2 10 2008
Pioneer2

You guys have given me such great websites, I thought I’d return the favor. Turn the volume down, though. It’s painful.

2 10 2008
The Jokal

Will her final mode of transport to the debate be via motorcade, donkey or a bloody great biblical velociraptor?

2 10 2008
Lulu

NMJ, the media’s reporting that Palin hurt her hand running at the compound in Sedona or something like that…

2 10 2008
WVU Employee

Thanks Cassie for the encouragement. I had not heard about the coal miners striking. Unfortunately, alot of people here are very prejudiced and I fear Obama will not win in WV. I had someone at work tell me a couple of days ago that he couldn’t vote for him because he was a Muslim. We tried to straighten him out, but it’s very frustrating!

TexChick–Have a great dinner! I’m going to bite the bullet and try to watch. Not sure how long I’ll last.

I am so glad I found Mudflats!

Obama/Biden 08

2 10 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

I refuse to try to crawl into their maggot infested republican brains to try to figure out what they have planned. (sorry about that lovely picture I just polluted your brains with)They are acting like a bunch of stupid twits and I don’t understand it. McCain is pulling out of Michigan, what does he think they can just cage enough democratic voters off the roles to get him a win, or worse yet does he know something we don’t and now really doesn’t want to be president? I was listening to Thom Hartman a radio talk show host who I admire for his intelligance today. They were discussing the twelve steps every country that has ever gone facist has taken to get there with the bail out we just completed step 10. He was also saying that a chunk of the army was brought back so if Obama loses the election they can put down the rioting. Isn’t that against the law? Perhaps they have changed the law, not good. If nothing else Obama and Biden seem honest, we could really use honest right now.

2 10 2008
carolyn AKA Speck Backfire

Mudpuppies,
In response to the wire issue, there is an article on HuffPo called The Cyrano Issue about VERY High Tech listening devices.
Sorry I can’t link to you all but I don’t know how.
Its the countdown.

2 10 2008
jimstaro

Hey, keep them Bingo Cards up on the site, if she doesn’t flub up to bad they can be used for the next? TV? interview?.

Or maybe Mac if she really screws up, he’ll be sweatin like Nixon for the next pres debate.

2 10 2008
2 10 2008
Laurie

I am watching Keith O…and it appears the repubs themselves, have set the bar very low for Palin. I think by the time this is over…her political career is over. There is no way McCain is going ot win this election…and then Sarah can go fish full time. (no offense to real fisherman)

2 10 2008
NMJ

The Jokal (15:51:42) : Will her final mode of transport to the debate be via motorcade, donkey or a bloody great biblical velociraptor?

LOL! Jokal, I hope she goes in on a velociraptor, and leaves on a donkey!

2 10 2008
WCBG

SoCal Gal,

From another SoCal Gal–thanks for the Rolling Stones link. Extremely insightful article on McCain.

AKM,
I have been reading your blog for several weeks now, since the Palin announcement, and both your blog entries and the comments and info/links provided by your “readers” have been great. For the longest time I was worried we could be saddled with another Republican administration for four more years, but this blog and others I have visited have given me hope. Thanks for all your work keeping us informed and motivated.

2 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Revlon Red Palin

A few days ago I read that the bailout vote would happen on Friday morning, just in time to blow Sarah off the front pages. I thought it was just a conspiracy theory.😉

Have a great time, everybody!😀

2 10 2008
galwhohashadenough!

Deb (15:07:45) : hey Deb…I went and protested downtown today. I’ll get them on flicker tomorrow so all you mudpuppies can see them. There weren’t a lot of us but we were very NOISY!! I guess you could hear us all the way inside the Sheraton. There were no McCain supporters outside. Just us and our lovely voices saying loud and clear…NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN!!! then we would change it to NO WAY, NO HOW, NO PALIN! We had a great time and maybe even changed a couple of voters to Obama. One can only hope:) I also wore my MUDFLAT boots!

Sent via a Blackberry which John McCain invented!!

2 10 2008
Wesson Scalper Palin

I have to go into work tonight so will miss the debate. Any idea where online I can watch the entire debate replayed afterward?

Have fun with the Bingo and drinking games everyone!

2 10 2008
NMJ

carolyn AKA Speck Backfire (16:03:25) : Sorry I can’t link to you all but I don’t know how.

Carolyn, just select the entire link address at the top of your browser, copy, then paste in the Comment box.

2 10 2008
NMJ

Laurie (16:12:47) : I am watching Keith O

I’m watching, too…

2 10 2008
pikawicca

Ya know, she’s just going to spew her “story” and attack Obama/Biden. There will be no substance on the big issues because she doesn’t have a clue what they are.

2 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Palin

Painkillers won’t help, but beta blockers might. Others use them for “stage fright” sorts of occasions…

2 10 2008
Taghkanic

I’ll be twittering the debate at:

Twitter/Taghkanic

First post:

Pre- #debate snack update… Biden: Apple slices, peanut butter, Ritz crackers; Palin: Wolf cub tartare.

Second:

Pre- #debate expectations game… Biden must recite capitals and GDPs of all sub-Saharan nations; Palin must not drool (visibly)

2 10 2008
Alexander Rose

I just ordered a pizza, and I’m going to crack open the beer in my fridge (and maybe the vodka if it gets really ugly).

http://thehedonistperspective.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/and-here-we-go/

Republican greatest hits (not to mention a shout out to Mudflats)

This is going to be good…

2 10 2008
cal al

more from the interview that keeps on giving.

This proves that she is a quick study…she got that pesty elite word caricature correct

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/palin-cheneys-worst-decis_n_131412.html#postComment

2 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Wesson Scalper Palin (16:19:49) : Debate replay?
—————————————————————————–

CNN replayed the pres debate on Sunday. I’ll keep an eye out and let you know!

2 10 2008
omaha

Obama camp keeps saying that she’s awesome in debate mode and I personally think this is smart of them – give her a false sense of confidence that they expect a good experience from her. Sarah Palin is nothing if not confident that she’s the chosen one. She may just think that all the prep is worthless cause even camp Obama thinks she’s formidable and throw out what her handlers told her and go with her gut. Would be a BIG mistake on her part and I can only hope to see the deer in the headlights look often tonight. No matter what, they will blame poor Gwen Ifill who is above reproach on all counts but this – they’ve already started the spin that Gwen is in the bag for Barack.

2 10 2008
karen marie

As part of Katie Couric’s interview series with both VP candidates, Palin and Joe Biden were asked to name the best and worst things that Cheney has done over the last eight years. The responses stood in stark contrast, to say the least.

Biden offered a withering critique of Cheney, charging that he had “done more harm than any other single elected official in my memory in terms of shredding the Constitution,” citing the vice president’s promotion of “torture as a policy” and the idea of the unitary executive. Even Biden’s “praise” for Cheney was brutal: “I admire his willingness to take positions that are completely contrary to popular opinion.”

Flash to Palin, sporting a goofy smile: “Worst thing, I guess, that woulda been the duck hunting accident, where, you know, that was, that was an accident. And that was made into a caricature of him, and that was kind of unfortunate.” (In fact, Cheney accidentally shot his friend Harry Whittington during a quail hunting trip.)

Cheney’s best act, according to Palin: “[H]e’s shown his support along with George W. Bush of our troops.”

i think it important that we actually watch all of these clips. it is important because down the road, in years to come, there will be attempts to downplay this whole episode. we each must bear witness and remember.

and let’s face it, it’s funny stuff.

go here to watch the clip up at huffington post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/palin-cheneys-worst-decis_n_131412.html

2 10 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P.

Ick…c-span online has LIEberman in all his glory taking up good camera time…I am so ashamed that he’s from my state.

2 10 2008
NMJ

Olbermann just brought up the fact that she connects with the emotional response of the audience. That’s what makes her a good speaker, but tonight she won’t have any feedback at all. She’ll just be talking to a monitor, and that will be disconcerting and uncomfortable. That’s something I hadn’t thought of, and it’s a pretty big thing.

2 10 2008
carolyn AKA Speck Backfire

m and NMJ,
THANX!! Sorry to be so unsavvy about linking. You are very kind to help me.

2 10 2008
shelleyt

I just read that the republicans are asking a judge to intervene to stop the investigation! Apparently there is someone investigating whether partisan politics has been interjected into it, making it “unfair” to poor Sarah! My head is going to explode! But am looking forward to this debate, more than any Superbowl! Who knows what to expect? They’ve lowered the bar for her so far, is the Limbo still done????

2 10 2008
Butterfliesatnight

Our guess is,,,, she’ll be,
1. wearing a concealed ear piece
2. hair will be down
( we were taking bets at work today on this subject)
3. She’ll start off as chumy
4. mid way attempt to bullshit
5. leave Joe smiling because he will know how to push her buttons
6. dig her own hole
7.she’ll look around for answers
8. at some point the crowd will LOL
9. DODGE the subject
10. ramble on and on,,, and on with no solid answer

2 10 2008
karen marie

much earlier in the thread, anonymous asked where he/she could watch the debate on the web.

there is a live feed at olbermann’s site. just go to this link and you’ll see the button to press (they label things well): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

cspan also might have the debate although i couldn’t find a live feed link on their page for the first presidential debate.

watching that msnbc feed is nice especially if you have a low tolerance for talking heads — there are none. i watched the democratic convention that way and it was fabulous — none of the speeches were interrupted and you got to listen to the music in between.

2 10 2008
gollygeez puck mule

countdown – 32 minutes to go in nc. i’m on pins and needles. she does tatoo her lipline

2 10 2008
JFletcher/BMarcoMGC

Some folks may not think what Sarah says or how she says it matters, but some of the leading Republican pundits / commentators have a few words to say about it. Check this out – they didn’t know their mics were still on during a radio show! The San Fran Examiner caught former repub speech writer, Peggy Noonan, et al, letting it all hang out!

Check this out: Political commentators forget mics are on, bash McCain, Palin, and chances of winning

http://www.examiner.com/x-276-Internet-Buzz-Examiner~y2008m9d4-Political-commentators-forget-mics-are-on-bash-McCain-Palin-and-chances-of-winning

2 10 2008
NMJ

carolyn AKA Speck Backfire (16:30:42) : THANX!! Sorry to be so unsavvy about linking. You are very kind to help me.

Carolyn, there was a time when we didn’t know, either. It’s only dumb when you don’t know something, and don’t ask!

2 10 2008
Laura Lee

I suspect she’s stocking up on her secret arsenal right now as we wait for the debate to start….check her pockets folks because I think she’s gorging on SMARTIES candy and praying for a miracle!

2 10 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

Getting ready. To my left is a bottle of virginal white wine for Biden’s gaffes and to my right is a bottle of blood red wine for Palin’s gaffes. I’ve saved the pretzels for Dubya to choke on.

2 10 2008
Sharon/California

Re: No audience feedback ……..

Don’t you think that zingers will just drop like rotten apples in front of the podium when there isn’t any applause to keep them in the air?

2 10 2008
NMJ

I think I’ll stay right here, tonight. Chat rooms always move too fast for me; I have to either type really fast, OR I can watch the debate.

2 10 2008
NMJ

Sharon – I think you just hit the nail on the head!

2 10 2008
White Agate

Does she really tattoo her lip line? I wondered…Does Biden? Probably not.

I’d rather a gaffe from a real person than packaged statements from someone who has not held a press conference even though she is running for VPOTUS.

What do you say to people who say they are not voting, out of protest, for anyone, that they are disgusted with the whole shebang? Had a couple of those conversations today, can’t say I blame them. I responded with how people had fought, gone to jail, and died for our right to vote and it was their duty, but that doesn’t work with everyone.

Red wine, didn’t get the Cosmos together on a school night.

I wish it were over already and we could move on to important things, like the next presidential debate, and, I dunno, how much of that $785B is left in 4 weeks if the House approves the bill tomorrow.

Boy, is there anything else the Bush admin. can throw at us? There are a few months left…I’m afraid to ask.

2 10 2008
tspey

8 minutes!!! I stayed at work to not miss a second of this our governor’s last stand.

Just heard through KUDO the judge dismissed the lawsuit to stop the Troopergate investigation!!! Hooray! More great news! Now on to the debate… :oD

2 10 2008
karen marie

here’s a post up at dkos titled “How they’d put a bug in Palin’s ear tonight (UPDATED)” that will answer some questions. as the person says in the post, one of the problems is that it is difficult even for professionals to speak with someone directing them in their ear that way, palin could never pull it off.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..388/617950

2 10 2008
strangelet (I need a new Palin name)

MSNBC live feed, if you follow Karen Marie’s link to KO you have to back up to the MSNBC page to see the link. At least right now.

2 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

A friend sent me this – looks like the stars are on Biden’s side – scroll down..

http://astrologyofatrainwreck.astrologydetective.com/

2 10 2008
judi

She probably reads Us, People and The National Enquirer!

2 10 2008
NMJ

White Agate (16:52:34) : What do you say to people who say they are not voting, out of protest, for anyone, that they are disgusted with the whole shebang?

Tell them that not voting at all is voting for McCain. Look at it this way: If McCain and Obama are almost tied in their state without them voting, a few extra votes for McCain could make the difference. However, if they vote against McCain by giving Obama their vote, they reduce the possibility that those few extra votes for McCain can give him the election.

2 10 2008
strangelet (I need a new Palin name)

Think Sarah’s flag pin is big enough?

2 10 2008
strangelet (I need a new Palin name)

Who would have guessed she was pro-regulation?

2 10 2008
NMJ

She’s starting off with a bang, they’re both being polite and feeling each other out. Soon they’ll be taking the gloves off.

2 10 2008
Phebe

The soccer game? OMG. Darn right! Gee golly!

Deception about buying a $300,000 house if you can only afford a $100,000 house? I think that was W when he was on the campaign trail!

And I watched Bush vs. Ferraro last night in a re-run. I didn’t hear Ferraro say “heckuva lot” once. I wish the American people would hold Palin to a Ferraro standard or a Hillary Clinton standard.

2 10 2008
strangelet (I need a new Palin name)

Love it. Biden is staying right on top of McCain,

Now she’s just lying.

2 10 2008
High Priestess Kang

Good G-d. Doesn’t she understand that verbs end in, “inG” not, “in?”

2 10 2008
Phebe

Look at her avoid the questions! “I’m gonna answer these questions the way I want to…”

2 10 2008
High Priestess Kang

@ Phebe

That’s only because she’s a journalist and can anticipate what people will ask due to her, “training.”

I shit you not – one of her mouthpieces said this today.

2 10 2008
NMJ

She’s using the exact strategy that I’ve heard from a number of sources that will get her farthest. Not pretending to be something she isn’t.

2 10 2008
plwalsh

Waah! I am shut out of the live chat!

2 10 2008
shelleyt

I’m not sure I can stomach watching the whole thing! Just watching her folksy crap is like fingernails on a chalkboard! I consider myself a well educated and articulate 55 yo woman and do not want me as VP. Not Joe sixpack, I need someone MORE educated and articulate than I.

2 10 2008
Phebe

How much insurance can you buy with a credit? And am I wrong in guessing that all the insurance companies that I could contribute to for my credit insurance… will probably be funded by the $100 billion that the Wall Street bailout will give to President Bush for use as his discretionary funds.

Oh Biden is making mistakes when he talks, he’s so excited to try to get ahead. He needs to slow down.

2 10 2008
wes_ben

She’s on drugs. Really. Look at her eyes and the way she’s speaking.

2 10 2008
NMJ

She’s starting to fall apart. …”rears its head…”

Stringing words together wrong – running sentences together.

2 10 2008
Phebe

Do you think she will get along with John McCain very long? Obviously he is smitten with her and acting like she is awful cute and as he said the other day, “She’s doing fine.”

What will happen when if/when she starts to be expected to support the greed and corruption which has been created by Republican politics as usual?

I am losing my house to a bankruptcy. Do you think John will let me go live in one of his?

2 10 2008
Liberrian

No, Phebe, he won’t.

Answer the damn question, Palin. Jeez louise.

2 10 2008
Anonymous

She’s going to run out of steam soon

2 10 2008
NMJ

Go, Joe, go!

2 10 2008
wes_ben

ok, i think she is losing it now…i have no idea what she’s saying

2 10 2008
NMJ

Senator “OBiden”? Did she really say that?

2 10 2008
Anonymous

She will run out of steam soon

2 10 2008
Emjay

Did she just say “nuke-u-lar” at least twice or am I imagining it?

2 10 2008
shelleyt

She’s only hitting the “talking points”. And walking around the questions.

2 10 2008
judi

She did say Nuke U lar….

2 10 2008
Emjay

LOL . . . she is GWB!! She just said it again. He also says nuke-u-lar. She really needs elocution lessons. Actually, she’s done a good job of memorizing the talking points they fed her during debate camp in Sedona. She doesn’t answer the questions at all. She just keeps on reciting those memorized points.

2 10 2008
Democrat G (formerly G)

This debate is the Sarah Palin show. It is a fact that she avoids questions and does not answer them, says whatever she wants, but she is talking directly to the American people. Biden is NOT! People are not going to understand him. This is HORRIBLE!

2 10 2008
Sharon/California

She’s reading notes ….. watch.

2 10 2008
Scott

HAHAHA! As soon as Biden said that man ALONE was responsible for global warming, he lost me (and millions of others). What a dope!

2 10 2008
shelleyt

I hope the American people can see through this. I think Biden is talking to them, just in a more educated way.

2 10 2008
shelleyt

ANSWER THE FREAKIN QUESTION!!!!

2 10 2008
Emjay

She just keeps jabbering away and trying to talk to “joe six pack” She learned how to glue that smile on her face as a beauty contestant.

2 10 2008
Emjay

As Kathleen Parker said “If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself”

2 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Palin

OK, her kids are beautiful. Piper made faces at the camera. Cute.

2 10 2008
mvngfwd

I thought she was awful. Did Pat Buchanan see a different debate?

2 10 2008
Democrat G (formerly G)

BIDEN is educated and he is answering questions and speaking about a plan. She is talking in any way she wants to talk and just getting people to hear key things that they will listen to whether they understand or not and LOVE her. It is HORRIBLE! I am SICK! I feel like I am going to throw up! STUPIDITY shines through!

2 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Palin

I think she energized the base. Sorry, but I do. I am not saying the base is sharp witted or anything…switching over to CNN

2 10 2008
Andrew Jones

The debate is over. Palin did not do as disastrously as some may have expected. I think that the weaknesses in her performance as dangerous, because they are masked. The Palin we saw interviewed by Katie Couric is not a different person. That was Palin. What was different was the situation where she was expected to answer simple, direct questions. It was much more obvious in the interviews that she lacked essential knowledge and judgement in order to do so. In the debate, she got away with evading questions by simply not answering them, or by giving very simple memorized answers.

It is understandable that republicans will want to now see Palin as highly competent. I think that it is very dangerous for anyone to do so. Palin is simply not knowledgeable enough to be competent, especially given McCain’s age and medical difficulties.

Of course, I was happy to see a less overly aggressive, strident, and simple-minded side to Palin. However, it is dangerous for anyone to assume at this point that she is ready to lead the U.S.. She should prove herself repeatedly in interviews and demonstrate a very strong knowedge of facts and sold judgement before she is taken seriously.

2 10 2008
Heather Bartlett

I blogged about it as I watched it. She didn’t fall flat on her face like I thought she would. I’d say they both did fine but probably didn’t change any minds.

2 10 2008
GrammaConcept

soCalGal …….WOW…friendly lights lighting up…

I LOVE your idea of donating $16 to the Obama campaign in honor of
the Obama’s 16th anniversary tomorrow….
with messages of love, warmth, and good will….LOVE IT!

Doesn’t this seem like a good idea to pass on to friends tonite & tomorrow?…

I’ m doin’ it now, here first, for practice and,
for sharing…………..

Dear Barack and Michelle,
Happy Anniversary!, Friends…

…And here comes a little gift
from a fellow traveller
through the infinite terrain
of the heart of the flame
of the Spirit
of the cerebral cortex….

Warmly,
GrammaConcept

(noCalGal….’-)

Strive On.

2 10 2008
Santiago

The politicians –like you can see in the debate Biden-Palin- talk about the climate change. Biden has a pessimist vision about the human action in the earth. But each baby is a gift because is able to change the world. The economist Julian Simon had a central premise: people are the ultimate resource. “Human beings,” he wrote, “are not just more mouths to feed, but are productive and inventive minds that help find creative solutions to man’s problems, thus leaving us better off over the long run.Santiago Chiva (Granada, Spain)

3 10 2008
Democrat G (formerly "G")

Fear is a strong emotion! I was so afraid that Palin was talking to Joe Average Six Pack and getting through to them, that she won the debate. THAT IS NOT THE CASE AT ALL! EVERYONE I am talking to thought she was a MORON who did NOT answer the questions! AMEN!

I had nightmares all night that McCain and Palin won. More later as I have a ton of work to do, but OMG, I am starting to have faith in American again….when fear almost made me think we were doomed!!

3 10 2008
GreatestAmerican

Sarah Palin vs. Joe Biden: Comedy! Drama! Horror!

So to watch the debate at the State Theater with Michael Moore and 500 other people, 400 of them who will be voting Obama – Biden, was a lot like watching your College football team beat up on the opposition at your school’s Homecoming game. The crowd roared virtually every time Palin rambled, forgetting for the moment that no one without understanding of complex policy issues should become the leader of the free world – the most powerful decision maker on earth.

See pics from the Greate Debate Party at this link…

3 10 2008
movie fan

the VP debate was stunning. Palin did a decent job faking about 20% of the questions and didn’t even bother answering the other 80%.

i couldn’t help thinking of the end of the movie Billy Madison, when the debate moderator says to Adam Sandler, “Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

3 10 2008
Palin-Biden Debate Countdown!

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