Lawsuit to Stall Troopergate Investigatioin Fails!

2 10 2008

Sorry to interrupt the Republican “Non-Implosion is Victory” party, but there was some breaking news in Anchorage tonight that came out a couple minutes before the debate.

An Anchorage judge today refused to halt the Legislature’s investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin and denied the state attorney general’s attempt to throw out legislative subpoenas.

Superior Court Judge Peter Michalski heard arguments from both sides this morning and ruled just before 5 p.m. this afternoon.

“I think it’s great. It’s a big day for the state of Alaska,” said Peter Maassen, the lawyer representing the Legislative Council, which ordered the investigation.

Maassen said he expected the other side to attempt a last-minute appeal to the state Supreme Court.

It’s last-minute because the investigator hired by the Legislative Council, Steve Branchflower, is to present his report in a week. Branchflower is looking into Palin’s dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, and whether she improperly pressured him to fire a state trooper divorced from her sister. There is intense national interest in the outcome now that Palin is the Republican nominee for vice president.

Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg said he didn’t know whether he’d appeal or if he’ll now advise the subpoenaed state officals to cooperate with the investigation. He said he needed to consult with them.

“I’m going to talk to the clients before I talk to you,” he said.

Five Republican state legislators sued to stop the investigation, and Colberg, a Palin appointee, asked the judge to throw out the legislative subpoenas. The governor’s husband, Todd, and nearly a dozen state officials have refused to honor the subpoeanas ordering them to testify, and they face the threat of possible jail time.

Thomas Van Flein, the Anchorage attorney representing both Todd and Sarah Palin, watched the court hearing today. He said in an interview afterward that, if the judge refused to throw out the subpoenas, he would expect Todd Palin to testify after all.

“Short of appeal to the Alaska Supreme Court, which no one has talked about, I don’t see why we wouldn’t just have Todd testify,” he said.

The plot thickens…


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2 10 2008
mwlfqotn

FYI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The PBS program “NOW ” has a poll going: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the US?

Voting started at about 66% No, 30% Yes. Then it changed. Presently it stands at 50% Yes, 48% No, 0% Unsure. The right wing has an email campaign going to turn the results around.

Please go vote. It’s only a matter of clicking a button ~

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

After you vote, please copy this and send to others.

2 10 2008
Suchanut

Can someone please explain what Talis Colberg doesn’t understand about who his clients are? I AM HIS CLIENT!!! Annette Kreitzer and the rest of them should hire private attorneys – right???? I don’t get it.

2 10 2008
AnneinWA

mwlfqotn (20:23:34) :

FYI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The PBS program “NOW ” has a poll going: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the US?

___

AKM – Thanks for the update.

mwlf

We should check it out to see if it’s one of those PBS polls that allows multiple votes. If so, it’s meaningless no matter who’s voting.

2 10 2008
mimi

Most excellent Judge!

Voted in the PBS poll – I guess this time a person can actually only vote once.

2 10 2008
AnneinWA

mwlfqotn (20:23:34) :

FYI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The PBS program “NOW ” has a poll going: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the US?

___

The poll does only let you vote once. It’s at 49 – 49 right now.

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

2 10 2008
Juneau girl

PBS poll – You can only vote once unless you vote from different computers.

2 10 2008
mwlfqotn

I plan to send it to my mailing list and ask them to vote,
send to their lists and then come visit here.

2 10 2008
Mad Skillz, son

I saw that … sweet! She survived the debate, but this chick won’t survive Troopergate.

She can have a job in my administration! Personal assistant – as long as Todd hits the Slope. LOL!

2 10 2008
kokofish palin

suchanut

Can someone please explain what Talis Colberg doesn’t understand about who his clients are? I AM HIS CLIENT!!! Annette Kreitzer and the rest of them should hire private attorneys – right???? I don’t get it.
_______________________________________________________________
Good good point. Isn’t he the one who told subpoened State employees not to respond?

This guy is very confused on the concept. Ooops, need a lifeline call to O’Callaghan.

2 10 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Excellent. Looks like the show must go on. McCain’s fancy lawyers obviously didn’t impress this judge.

2 10 2008
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2 10 2008
portland oregon native

Well PBS is still bogus I just voted about 10 times then I got bored.
Gald the trooper gate scandal is till in play.
Why didn’t Sarah leave poor little Trig back in the hotel with his real mother!?

2 10 2008
NSWFM

Yay! A judge with a brain up there! Thank you AKM for all you do to keep us lower 48ers informed.

2 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Cats r Flyfishn (20:51:40) :

The [http://www.ruthgroup.org/2008/10/02/lawsuit-to-derail-troopergate-fails/} is now set to redirect to an article about strategy in Iraq.

2 10 2008
NSWFM

And when you are summoned by the court to show up, show up! Who the hell do these people think they are? Harriet Miers?

Actually, reading some of Palin’s little notes, she does sound like Miers …”you are the best President, ever!”

2 10 2008
oc4obama

Here is a great excerpt from the Defendants’ Opposition to Motion for Temporary Restraining Order (TRO). This legal brief is really worth reading the whole thing, but this was my favorite part.

Link:
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/02/10/trooper.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

From pages 3-4:

As a factual matter, though probably pointless in what has become a sharply political rather than legal back-and-forth, Defendants take issue with Plaintiffs’ central point that the court must immediately enjoin the legislative investigation because “[a]s the nation watches, Senator French, Senator Elton and Mr. Branchflower [are making] the Alaska Legislature and the State of Alaska a laughingstock.” TRO Memo at 5. In this politically charged atmosphere, perceptions differ. Consider: Alaska’s Governor pledges her full cooperation with the investigation, then reverses course when selected for national office. The Governor files an ethics complaint against herself, then moves to dismiss it as meritless. The announcement that a witness will disobey an Alaska legislative subpoena comes from a spokesman for the McCain campaign. Size Alaska legislators file suit, asking the court to rule that the Legislature – their own coequal branch – has no authority to investigate abuses of power by the Executive. The Attoney General, the highest law enforcement officer in the State, advises witnesses that whether to comply with subpoenas is a matter of personal choice.

Plaintiffs may truly believe that Alaska has become a “laughingstock,” but they should look at someone other than the Defendants for the source of the humor.

2 10 2008
Erin

Yay, Judge Michalski! I am proud to say that my husband went to school with this fine man’s son.

I was at the debate at BearTooth tonight. Suchanut, were you there? Did you see SMR?

Hi SMR, I saw you in your Mudflats boots! I tried to find you afterwards but you ducked into the lobby and I couldn’t find you.

2 10 2008
oc4obama

Reposting, had a small typo (changed “size” to “six”) and a spelling error. in transcribing the data from the PDF file. Here is the corrected text.

Great excerpt from the Defendants’ Opposition to Motion for Temporary Restraining Order (TRO). This legal brief is really worth reading the whole thing, but this was my favorite part.

Link:
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/02/10/trooper.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

From pages 3-4:

As a factual matter, though probably pointless in what has become a sharply political rather than legal back-and-forth, Defendants take issue with Plaintiffs’ central point that the court must immediately enjoin the legislative investigation because “[a]s the nation watches, Senator French, Senator Elton and Mr. Branchflower [are making] the Alaska Legislature and the State of Alaska a laughingstock.” TRO Memo at 5. In this politically charged atmosphere, perceptions differ. Consider: Alaska’s Governor pledges her full cooperation with the investigation, then reverses course when selected for national office. The Governor files an ethics complaint against herself, then moves to dismiss it as meritless. The announcement that a witness will disobey an Alaska legislative subpoena comes from a spokesman for the McCain campaign. Six Alaska legislators file suit, asking the court to rule that the Legislature – their own coequal branch – has no authority to investigate abuses of power by the Executive. The Attorney General, the highest law enforcement officer in the State, advises witnesses that whether to comply with subpoenas is a matter of personal choice.

Plaintiffs may truly believe that Alaska has become a “laughingstock,” but they should look at someone other than the Defendants for the source of the humor.

2 10 2008
AlaskaGuy

@Suchanut. Exactly!!!

It looks as though in this instance justice might actually prevail.

2 10 2008
peewee

Clients, clients? Excuse my naivete’ but I thought I and the rest of Alaskan
citizens were Colberg’s clients

2 10 2008
Suchanut

Erin – no I wasn’t at the Beartooth, but I was wearing my yellow boots here at my home where I hosted a debate party for like- minded friends!

Hopefully all of us yellow boots will meet up on the Park Strip at the OBama rally on Saturday – are you going?

2 10 2008
Suchanut

My feet actually started to sweat and then because the boots are new….nevermind TMI!

2 10 2008
Deb

in the midst of this “debate”…I have to pause and salute alaskans for the real truth!
AKM…thanks.. an.go alaska!!! I lived there for 5+ years….and you are indeed the new frontier!

2 10 2008
JBDC

Perhaps AG Colberg believes in revisiting the Alaskan Constitution and expanding his powers with a loose interpretation, just as Palin is glad the US Constitution gives her the flexibility to take on some more responsibilities in the Senate as VP. what?!

2 10 2008
Suchanut

I also want to know what they are going to do with our petition to remove that poor wretch Talis Colberg. I know that Bill McCallister accepted the paper – but what happens now?

2 10 2008
TrumanHugh

I guess the recent talk of this election’s “October Surprise” has a clearer focus. Sounds like it may affect/hit the GOP this time! What a pleasant change of pace, a real breath of fresh air!!

2 10 2008
Deb

what a welcome relief…to come back to this news, AKM
sarah “held her own” in this debate i.e. she was able to recite from memory and cue card enough to not embarrass herself
it is so sad that biden obviously had command of ALL the topics…and yet the bar was set so low for palin…that due respect does not go to him.
but, in terms of talking to the AVERAGE american….biden WON!
I think repubs will get a slight “bump” in the polls cuz she didn’t crash and burn…
but….bottom line is…mccain/palin do NOT offer a plan different from bush..that is their platform..that is downfall
someone here earlier prayed for palin to CRY and I prayed differently…..biden almost cried…….when palin cries it’s theatrics, when biden almost cries it’s REAL!!

YES, WE CAN!
w

2 10 2008
Wondering_Lake

Palin is crashing in the news big time tomorrow. What was Palin thinking with all the winking tonight? It’s like the wink heard around the world!

The videos on youtube are already popping up making fun of the folksie winking. What the heck was she thinking? Winking? What if Biden winked? It’s just so sexist and condescending.

I’ve already ordered a Sarah Palin winking bumper sticker ( http://tinyurl.com/mooselini ) and a shirt! I don’t want her to pull a Costanza and set off an international incident with the dopey winking.

2 10 2008
non alaskan

you can vote over and over again.
silly internet polls

just clear your browser cashe

2 10 2008
shilo

I’ve had it, anyone that can believe this… MAVERICK’s… like the old tv show
Bret and Bart , The Maverick’s …… seems
like McCain liked this show , that’s where he got his LOGO…. McCain is no Bret and Palin is no Bart

2 10 2008
Crazy In Alaska

I have been nit picking all night, the shout outs, the winks, the correcting of the drill baby drill. I forgot to mention the “Say it ain’t so, Joe” Uhm, could someone please tell her she is not running for senior class president.

2 10 2008
knikgoose

Well, I am in love with Biden. Honest.
I don’t care what they wanna gush about Palin right now.
Wait til the “View” comes on tomorrow and see what their audience thinks of JB.

On the other hand, the winkin’ and nose-scrunchin’ stuff made me think of the kind of women who hit on your husband/bf, while you’re sitting right there, watching.
Can I slap her? (Yes, I really did want to slap her when she did the flirt-with-the-camera crap. This wasn’t a Playboy shoot!)

And, I picked up some hints of Deee-troit/S.E. Mich accent, actually, a couple of times. I wonder if Track came back from his hockey year with a Mich accent and she just thought it was ‘cute’.

2 10 2008
Lana, KY

The slippery slope . . .

2 10 2008
Deb

wondering-
I really tried to watch this debate as an “unbiased” viewer (even though I am DEFEINTELY biased towards obama) In the first 45 minutes of the debate, I do have to admit biden was weak on talking to to the average american…( he tended to look aat gwen which on camera showed him NOT looking at US, the people) last part of the debate he corrected that. if I were NOT a huge biden/obama…obama/biden fan…I would say sarah kinda/sorta held her own with the help of all those notes she had…and obviously had memorized…which is WAAYY better tan her speaking “off the cuff”
her BIG faux pas of the night…would be saying she thought the powers of the VP should be EXPANDED!!!
*cheney, were you listening to that?))

I can just SEE an ad with the video of her saying she didnt’ understand what a VP did….followed by her position on EXPANIDING powers of the VP seen here tonight! pretty powerful ad!

2 10 2008
SMR

Hi Erin,

I did not see you, or anyone else in boots, while there! Oh well, maybe at the Obama rally this weekend, though I can tell you I won’t be wearing my wellies! You know what I look like now, so give me a shout if you’re there on Saturday. Note to everyone: if you saw me up on the stage or when I was interviewed by one of the local news stations and you were wondering what in the hell I was doing wearing wellies, that maybe I am fashion-challenged, well, I’m NOT, it is my mudflatter badge of intelligence, and Erin and I had pledged to wear them tonight! Hey, did you see my note at the other thread about guiding some Spanish reporters to the “Polar Bear Tooth Theater?” Worldwide news! The poor guys had already gone to Wasilla and were quite unimpressed…

By the way, I’d made up my own little bingo cards for everyone, we all put in 5 dollars (there were 8 of us), with plans to split proceeds between first 2 winners, and the winners generously offered up the money to go to Obama’s campaign! I’m matching their donation. It was fun. Try it as a fundraiser at the next debate.

Oh, I wish I could have seen you in your yellow boots!! AKM

2 10 2008
Anonymous

mwlfqotn (20:23:34) :

FYI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The PBS program “NOW ” has a poll going: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the US?

Voting started at about 66% No, 30% Yes. Then it changed. Presently it stands at 50% Yes, 48% No, 0% Unsure. The right wing has an email campaign going to turn the results around.

Please go vote. It’s only a matter of clicking a button ~

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

After you vote, please copy this and send to others.
2 10 2008
Suchanut (20:30:34) :

Can someone please explain what Talis Colberg doesn’t understand about who his clients are? I AM HIS CLIENT!!! Annette Kreitzer and the rest of them should hire private attorneys – right???? I don’t get it.
2 10 2008
AnneinWA (20:34:16) :

mwlfqotn (20:23:34) :

FYI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The PBS program “NOW ” has a poll going: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the US?

___

AKM – Thanks for the update.

mwlf

We should check it out to see if it’s one of those PBS polls that allows multiple votes. If so, it’s meaningless no matter who’s voting.
2 10 2008
mimi (20:34:19) :

Most excellent Judge!

Voted in the PBS poll – I guess this time a person can actually only vote once.
2 10 2008
AnneinWA (20:38:29) :

mwlfqotn (20:23:34) :

FYI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The PBS program “NOW ” has a poll going: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the US?

___

The poll does only let you vote once. It’s at 49 – 49 right now.

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
2 10 2008
Juneau girl (20:38:59) :

PBS poll – You can only vote once unless you vote from different computers.
2 10 2008
mwlfqotn (20:40:38) :

I plan to send it to my mailing list and ask them to vote,
send to their lists and then come visit here.
2 10 2008
Mad Skillz, son (20:41:34) :

I saw that … sweet! She survived the debate, but this chick won’t survive Troopergate.

She can have a job in my administration! Personal assistant – as long as Todd hits the Slope. LOL!
2 10 2008
kokofish palin (20:44:36) :

suchanut

Can someone please explain what Talis Colberg doesn’t understand about who his clients are? I AM HIS CLIENT!!! Annette Kreitzer and the rest of them should hire private attorneys – right???? I don’t get it.
_______________________________________________________________
Good good point. Isn’t he the one who told subpoened State employees not to respond?

This guy is very confused on the concept. Ooops, need a lifeline call to O’Callaghan.
2 10 2008
Cats r Flyfishn (20:51:40) :

Excellent. Looks like the show must go on. McCain’s fancy lawyers obviously didn’t impress this judge.
2 10 2008
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2 10 2008
portland oregon native (20:58:54) :

Well PBS is still bogus I just voted about 10 times then I got bored.
Gald the trooper gate scandal is till in play.
Why didn’t Sarah leave poor little Trig back in the hotel with his real mother!?
2 10 2008
NSWFM (21:00:46) :

Yay! A judge with a brain up there! Thank you AKM for all you do to keep us lower 48ers informed.
2 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin (21:01:25) :

Cats r Flyfishn (20:51:40) :

The [http://www.ruthgroup.org/2008/10/02/lawsuit-to-derail-troopergate-fails/} is now set to redirect to an article about strategy in Iraq.
2 10 2008
NSWFM (21:04:41) :

And when you are summoned by the court to show up, show up! Who the hell do these people think they are? Harriet Miers?

Actually, reading some of Palin’s little notes, she does sound like Miers …”you are the best President, ever!”
2 10 2008
oc4obama (21:05:31) :

Here is a great excerpt from the Defendants’ Opposition to Motion for Temporary Restraining Order (TRO). This legal brief is really worth reading the whole thing, but this was my favorite part.

Link:
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/02/10/trooper.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

From pages 3-4:

As a factual matter, though probably pointless in what has become a sharply political rather than legal back-and-forth, Defendants take issue with Plaintiffs’ central point that the court must immediately enjoin the legislative investigation because “[a]s the nation watches, Senator French, Senator Elton and Mr. Branchflower [are making] the Alaska Legislature and the State of Alaska a laughingstock.” TRO Memo at 5. In this politically charged atmosphere, perceptions differ. Consider: Alaska’s Governor pledges her full cooperation with the investigation, then reverses course when selected for national office. The Governor files an ethics complaint against herself, then moves to dismiss it as meritless. The announcement that a witness will disobey an Alaska legislative subpoena comes from a spokesman for the McCain campaign. Size Alaska legislators file suit, asking the court to rule that the Legislature – their own coequal branch – has no authority to investigate abuses of power by the Executive. The Attoney General, the highest law enforcement officer in the State, advises witnesses that whether to comply with subpoenas is a matter of personal choice.

Plaintiffs may truly believe that Alaska has become a “laughingstock,” but they should look at someone other than the Defendants for the source of the humor.
2 10 2008
Erin (21:09:09) :

Yay, Judge Michalski! I am proud to say that my husband went to school with this fine man’s son.

I was at the debate at BearTooth tonight. Suchanut, were you there? Did you see SMR?

Hi SMR, I saw you in your Mudflats boots! I tried to find you afterwards but you ducked into the lobby and I couldn’t find you.
2 10 2008
oc4obama (21:10:31) :

Reposting, had a small typo (changed “size” to “six”) and a spelling error. in transcribing the data from the PDF file. Here is the corrected text.

Great excerpt from the Defendants’ Opposition to Motion for Temporary Restraining Order (TRO). This legal brief is really worth reading the whole thing, but this was my favorite part.

Link:
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/02/10/trooper.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

From pages 3-4:

As a factual matter, though probably pointless in what has become a sharply political rather than legal back-and-forth, Defendants take issue with Plaintiffs’ central point that the court must immediately enjoin the legislative investigation because “[a]s the nation watches, Senator French, Senator Elton and Mr. Branchflower [are making] the Alaska Legislature and the State of Alaska a laughingstock.” TRO Memo at 5. In this politically charged atmosphere, perceptions differ. Consider: Alaska’s Governor pledges her full cooperation with the investigation, then reverses course when selected for national office. The Governor files an ethics complaint against herself, then moves to dismiss it as meritless. The announcement that a witness will disobey an Alaska legislative subpoena comes from a spokesman for the McCain campaign. Six Alaska legislators file suit, asking the court to rule that the Legislature – their own coequal branch – has no authority to investigate abuses of power by the Executive. The Attorney General, the highest law enforcement officer in the State, advises witnesses that whether to comply with subpoenas is a matter of personal choice.

Plaintiffs may truly believe that Alaska has become a “laughingstock,” but they should look at someone other than the Defendants for the source of the humor.
2 10 2008
AlaskaGuy (21:11:35) :

@Suchanut. Exactly!!!

It looks as though in this instance justice might actually prevail.
2 10 2008
peewee (21:14:36) :

Clients, clients? Excuse my naivete’ but I thought I and the rest of Alaskan
citizens were Colberg’s clients
2 10 2008
Suchanut (21:17:10) :

Erin – no I wasn’t at the Beartooth, but I was wearing my yellow boots here at my home where I hosted a debate party for like- minded friends!

Hopefully all of us yellow boots will meet up on the Park Strip at the OBama rally on Saturday – are you going?
2 10 2008
Suchanut (21:17:53) :

My feet actually started to sweat and then because the boots are new….nevermind TMI!
2 10 2008
Deb (21:18:43) :

in the midst of this “debate”…I have to pause and salute alaskans for the real truth!
AKM…thanks.. an.go alaska!!! I lived there for 5+ years….and you are indeed the new frontier!
2 10 2008
JBDC (21:19:33) :

Perhaps AG Colberg believes in revisiting the Alaskan Constitution and expanding his powers with a loose interpretation, just as Palin is glad the US Constitution gives her the flexibility to take on some more responsibilities in the Senate as VP. what?!
2 10 2008
Suchanut (21:20:03) :

I also want to know what they are going to do with our petition to remove that poor wretch Talis Colberg. I know that Bill McCallister accepted the paper – but what happens now?
2 10 2008
TrumanHugh (21:22:35) :

I guess the recent talk of this election’s “October Surprise” has a clearer focus. Sounds like it may affect/hit the GOP this time! What a pleasant change of pace, a real breath of fresh air!!
2 10 2008
Deb (21:26:52) :

what a welcome relief…to come back to this news, AKM
sarah “held her own” in this debate i.e. she was able to recite from memory and cue card enough to not embarrass herself
it is so sad that biden obviously had command of ALL the topics…and yet the bar was set so low for palin…that due respect does not go to him.
but, in terms of talking to the AVERAGE american….biden WON!
I think repubs will get a slight “bump” in the polls cuz she didn’t crash and burn…
but….bottom line is…mccain/palin do NOT offer a plan different from bush..that is their platform..that is downfall
someone here earlier prayed for palin to CRY and I prayed differently…..biden almost cried…….when palin cries it’s theatrics, when biden almost cries it’s REAL!!

YES, WE CAN!
w
2 10 2008
Wondering_Lake (21:31:25) :

Palin is crashing in the news big time tomorrow. What was Palin thinking with all the winking tonight? It’s like the wink heard around the world!

The videos on youtube are already popping up making fun of the folksie winking. What the heck was she thinking? Winking? What if Biden winked? It’s just so sexist and condescending.

I’ve already ordered a Sarah Palin winking bumper sticker ( http://tinyurl.com/mooselini ) and a shirt! I don’t want her to pull a Costanza and set off an international incident with the dopey winking.

2 10 2008
Deb

pbs does NOT have their Sh*t together….
as in the previous poll…i voted….went back…and voted again….percentages stayes the same
PBS IS NOT a reliable poll!!
this is twice we have done this people!

2 10 2008
Deb

I repeat and URGE you to contact PBS for their fualty “polling” PBS is NOT reliable….when I can vote twice!

2 10 2008
American in Asia

Senator Biden looked very good in the debate, quite the gentleman.

I hope “troopergate” ends Palin’s political career and sends her and the First Dood back to where they came from, with all due respect and some pity for you Alaskans.

2 10 2008
knikgoose

Ted Stevens does not get out for a mistrial,..bonus!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26990958/

2 10 2008
Deb

sarah…you learned jornalism 101 well…I didn’t take journalism 101, but I’m a speech/communicaations major..and I could have memorized/read from cue cards as well as you….”thanks, but no thanks” as being prepared to being a heart-beat away from the presidency! As a mom of 4 (not 5)) and a professional who works with disabled children, go home and take care of your children!

2 10 2008
Sue

You can vote as many times as you like in the PBS poll. I just did. I cleared my cache once, but then it tried it without doing that, and it still worked.

2 10 2008
Deb

come on alaskans…I live down here in the “lower 48” and biden gave her AMPLE room to expout about exxon….and she didn’t get it??? biden must have brought up exxon 4-5 times during the debate…and, as governor of alaska and “knowledgeable” about energy and alaska..she didn’t jump all over EXXON refernences???? and we wonder who has her “in the pocket”???
GO BIDEN!

2 10 2008
Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca

Sarah, great job. You looked pretty relaxed, considering, and showed a lot of perkiness and charm.

But Joe blew you away, dear. Soccer mom just doesn’t compare to single Dad. And your talking points all sounded good till the facts emerged. Facts win. Remember that next time someone asks you what newspaper you read.

Biden is not just a gentleman and a scholar. He is a statesman, on a whole different level.

2 10 2008
Deb

expout=expound…sorry, I’ve indulged in PLENTY o’ wine to get through this debate tonight

2 10 2008
Deb

rob-
Biden is not just a gentleman and a scholar. He is a statesman, on a whole different level.

agreed, totally

2 10 2008
Deb

oops…but she is “hockey” mom…not soccer mom
I am a soccer mom, so I DEFINITLY know that difference ….just to keep you “truthful”

2 10 2008
Deb

definitely*

2 10 2008
Deb

*see baker vs. exxon..in which exxon WON paying LESS in damages for the valdez spill…and palin spoke against the ruling…but could not remember reference either with couric or tonight when biden brought up exxon NUMEROUS time!

2 10 2008
bPoint

The Biden victory will become much clearer tomorrow and over the weekend, when people have time to watch it again and write about what really happened, count how many times she went to the stump speeches instead of the answers.
What is also is going to happen is she is going to try the live microphone again, and maybe try to answer some questions, she will not do as well. The follow up questions are what stymie Sarah.
The president of Iran has given more press conferences to date in the United States than Sarah Palin has since being nominated for VP, for a reason. It ain’t the press, it her!

2 10 2008
wayupnorth

Alaska judges are picked on merit, and while Republican governors can usually be counted on to pick the richest white male in the bunch, they are pretty independent.

Anyone know if there is a pdf of the decision floating around anywhere on Uncle Teds Intertoobz?

2 10 2008
pearl89

I think Biden won this debate, no doubt about it. I just couldn’t take all that winking, blinking, and those cutsy sayings she has…she is like Gidget on steroids. She gave Tina Fey plenty of material for her next SNL skit.

My favorite moment of the debate was when Joe Biden laid into John McCain about being a Maverick. My least favorite was when Palin showed absolutely no empathy for him when he was talking about his children. She was so afraid of getting off her talking points.

There are a lot of other things to be said, but I want to congratulate the people of Alaska/America on their/our victory today. Can’t wait for the next Squad of Truth briefing. Truth Squad sounds like something out of a comic book…Justice League…Truth Squad. Today the Justice League won. Hurray!

2 10 2008
Deb

as a former resident of alaska (left in 1978 when my twins were born in alaska) I should NOT have to remind alaskans about the “relative” benifits/damages to alaskas wildlife by exxon

2 10 2008
Deb

(please forgive typos to abundant wine intaake due to alaskan governor debate in MY politics)

2 10 2008
beth in Chugiak Alaska

Historians will use “troopergate” as a model of government gone wrong. It will be held as an example of a theocratic megalomaniac who illegally used government agencies to enforce her personal vendetta. AG Colberg or attorney Van Flein will file suit with the Alaska Supreme Court to thwart due process, reparation of injured individuals, the rights of Alaska state employees to know and operate under a system of transparency and honesty without fear of retribution, and the rights of all US citizens to understand how their prospective Vice President operates in her role as an executive of state.

Our Alaska State Supreme court, charged with protection of individual and citizen’s rights, must act without hesitation. Our Governor and Attorney General have allowed the welfare of our state to be co-opted by a political agency hell bent on advancing their own agenda, not the will of the people. Governor Palin alone is responsible for this travesty.

2 10 2008
Deb

ok…i realize that I may have seriously overreacted here…..but the mere mention of exxon makes me ill…and I really do believe biden was “testing” her on her knowledge about energy and state affairs…and she came up short. for those of us in the lower ’48…exxon and the whole valdez catastrophe was an example of big oil vs. nature…and the supreme court ruling that sarah couldn’t come up with……FAVORED big oil business…and she couldn’t quite name it even though it had happened most recently! I’m sorry alaskans…even though you get nice oil dividends yearly from big oil….this goes BEYOND your dividends! why aren’t you ALL just shaking your heads at Biden’s references to exxon???

We are. See my post earlier in the day, “Palin v. Supreme Court” AKM

2 10 2008
divatalk

Hey guys, great debate. I love Joe. He got to me when he began to get emotional about being a single dad. That was something I think resonate with people.

2 10 2008
Deb

beth- so lesson to be learned here is…if your governor/elected representative happens to “luck” into national politics and there is a question of ethics/wrongdoing….it’s pretty much a FU (pardon my french) in terms of normal rules of law. better you than me here in colorado…where we seem to be getting bluer by the minute1 🙂

2 10 2008
SMR

Please everyone, check out this document:

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/09/27/09/TRO.Memorandum.REVISED_FINAL.09-26-08.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

I would like all Alaskans to note, and to forward to other Alaskans, the names of the lawmakers who are impeding the progress of this investigation! I will make it a priority to do plenty of campaigning for their opponents when they are up for re-election! And what in the hell is the deal with the neo-con lawyers representing them??????? There is some messed up stuff going on in Alaska right now thanks to failin & mclame!

2 10 2008
divatalk

Before I forget. I posted this on another post, but can someone tell me
if they have information about a rally in Philly that Bruce Springsteen is suppose to be doing. Also if Barack is planning to be there and when and where it
s going to be.

thanks.

2 10 2008
Deb

I will say this…about mudflats and our wonderful alaskan friends here who rallied/protested/informed……you have provided us in the “swing” states (unlike yourselves who are as red as satan himself…sorry, couldn’t resist the analogy) with a lot of “food for thought” and real time info to fight the good fight with! and for that…you are pioneers in this information age! thank you, akm…and all alaskans…with the small voice in that “foreign land” up north!

2 10 2008
Duct Idaho Palin

Here’s information about the Philadelphia rally with Springsteen
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/10/bruce_springste_11.html

2 10 2008
Duct Idaho Palin

Looks like Barack Obama will be in Virginia the day of the Springsteen rally
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/nnbo

2 10 2008
shawn

At the rate of pissing off some of Alaskans, I must ask this question. Does your governor think Alaska is another country? I know she did this and that for the state, but I have never heard her say what she will do for America? How does she extend her tax cuts and breaks that she gave to you all to ” the lower 48?” In my book, I get pissed hearing her talk about Alaskans and how they work hard and how people are use to being productive up their. What a dumb bunny if she thinks that the rest of the country doesn’t work hard. It alienates her and her ticket from the rest of the country and no one has yet made that point. And another thing, unless the feds pay her to keep a watch on Russia from her living room. I wish she would shut the freak up and let that go. Foreign policy experience she does not have , meeting with Kissinger 1 time for an hour doesn’t mean he gave you a playbook.
My last thought, I’m a soccer and basketball mom but who the hell cares? When I’m on the field, we are talking about the game and cheering on our kids, not asking about tips for your 401K or yakking it up about the bailout. Get a grip and a life lady. No, fade back into obscurity and let them run you out of Alaska next election. Wasilla’s waiting and I’ll bet they’ll leave the light on for you. Oh, wait! That would be wasting energy and we can’t have Miss Energy being un-ENERGetic.

2 10 2008
knikgoose

SMR

That’s “Plan C”. They’re getting desperate. Got to try and push it off until after Nov. 4th.
Wonder how many back-up plans they have to drag it out?

2 10 2008
Deb

shawn…I lived in alaska for 5 years….and yes, in some ways…unlike sarah tried to deny…living in alaska IS like living in another country. (she somehow tried to paint it tonight as “middle america” (whaaaaa?????))
I loved living in alaska and part of why I loved living in alaska….as I’m sure the alaskan friends here will testify to, is because it IS so different that the “lower ’48” ..because of the distance itself you are removed from much of what happens in the rest of the country. it was funny…when sarah tried to paint a picture of alaska NOT being a “foreign country” with katie couric in the interview….alaska IS, in many ways like a foreign country…but NOT!

2 10 2008
Sue

Rats! Now that PBS poll IS working.

2 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Palin)

Is it accurate for Colberg to refer to the state employees who have been subpoenaed as “his clients”? Is he the Attorney General of the State of Alaska, or the Attorney General of the Executive Branch of the State of Alaska?

I know that the AK Constitution prescribes Gubanatorial appointment for the AG (which makes me wonder why it is supposedly so highly regarded by state constitution buffs), but what does it say about his responsibilities and loyalties?

I assume he was sworn in. Does the oath obligate him to the State, the Constitution, or the Executive?

I know I can find this out by reading the bloody Constitution, but I’m lazy. Any Alaskans happen to know?

2 10 2008
crud

JUST F*&CKING TESTIFY ALREADY!!

EVERYONE – including Palin – agreed to the Legislature’s investigation before August 29.

NOTHING should have changed that. NOTHING.

2 10 2008
GJ in Idaho

I was so pleased to see that the judge refused to halt the Legislature’s investigation. The people of all 50 states have a right to know if a VP candidate has abused her powers as an elected official, i.e. Governor. It is for that reason that I as a resident of ID stay abreast of this issue.

The AK people have a right to know if their workers rights have been violated by a public official. They also need to know why they would go to jail if they did not honor a subpoena, but others would not when they failed to appear. They also have the right to know why these people are not being held in contempt.

I am also wondering why the Bar Association of AK has not censored an attorney that recommened that his client break the law?

Many complaints have been filed against Talis Colberg with the Alaska Bar. Each and every one of them must be followed up by law. AKM

3 10 2008
strangelet (Speck Backfire Palin)

Just a final remark on the “debate” before I hit the sack. Sarah probably shined, in the eyes of the folks who wouldn’t have changed their minds no matter what.

But I thought Joe was fantastic. I expected him to be professional and on top of the material, but he was also thoroughly engaging. He was (politely) in control throughout. He didn’t patronize, he didn’t berate, but he also didn’t let Sarah get away with spouting BS.

I hadn’t seen that much of him live before. I was really impressed.

3 10 2008
GJ in Idaho

Well Mudpuppies I’m going to call it a night. I very much enjoyed sharing the VP debate with you. It certainly didn’t change my mind, vote wise. I came in knowing I was an Obama person, but I did get a better idea of who Biden is and what a great choice Obama made when he picked him for his VP. Those two can really make a difference in this world. I’m going to sleep now and dream of all the wonderful possibilities, peace in our life time, affordable health care for all, education that every child in America can afford, that insures them meaningful careers where they achieve prosperity that does not send our children’s children into slave labor if they can not pay their taxes and a warm safe place for each person to lay their head at the end of the day.

3 10 2008
BigSlick

Is anyone keeping track of the costs that have been incurred by the State of Alaska since all this crap began?

a) the cost of investigating Palin in the first place (including the $10,000 pay-off to the guy hired to replace Monegan then dismissed for being a perv/bigot)

and

b) the cost of the legal wrangling since Aug 29th since she flip-flopped and decided not to cooperate

Alaskans should send her a bill.

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3 10 2008
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3 10 2008
Hmmmmm

When are her tax returns being released?

3 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

Divatalk, the Springsteen/Billy Joel rally is in NYC

3 10 2008
Susie in Jersey

Oops, sorry:

“”The Boss” will play an acoustic set on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway Saturday afternoon as part of a Barack Obama campaign rally. Admission is free but tickets are required for a seat up front.”

3 10 2008
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3 10 2008
SMR

Tax returns supposed to be released today! Hooray! that means that those delusional women (& men) out there who think “she’s just like me” will finally get a clue!

Uh, she’s really just like you but earns $200,000 more per year! Why she & her stupid husband need to sit around the table wondering how to put the kids through college (how about getting them through high school first? you’re batting 1000 with drop-outs right now!) when they’ve earned nearly $300,000 for years & years & years is beyond me — has she never heard of savings? In her debate she talked about the “greed” of people living beyond their means, how the predatory lenders that allow it are the cause of the financial problems, and then she & her hubby with their plane & big house & vacation property & everything else are wondering how to put kids through college on only $300,000 per year. Bring on the taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

The New Zealand Herald’s take on the debate:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10535711

3 10 2008
Stanley Krute

One nice thing to come out of this mess is the realization, I hope, among Alaskans that you folks need an ELECTED Attorney General.

Gee, howdoya think Talis would do in such an election today ?

Such a sad tool he is.

— stan in rural northernmost CA

3 10 2008
Erin

Suchanut, no, I won’t be going to the Obama rally. I have been to two rallies already and I think my husband is going to disown me if I go to another one. I’ll be there in spirit, though, and I might have to drive by and honk a few times!

SMR: You did a great job on stage- thanks for making copies of the email list for everyone. Good idea! Have fun at the rally.

AKM: You would have loved my boots! I looked a little silly because I had come straight from work and had a dress on. I didn’t care, though. I was proud to tell people why I was wearing them!

3 10 2008
Femalady

After the debate, CNN said she repeatedly used the wong name for the Commander-in-Chief in Afganistan. Does anyone know if this is true? I do NOT know myself the proper name so I can’t complain. Still, she reminds me of a “winking” Chatty Cathy

3 10 2008
kizzy

pearl89!!! Gidget – that’s it!!!! That’s exactly the description I was trying to think of…

I prefer my vice-presidential candidates to appear presidential…. I did not expect Gidget to show up for the job interview.

She just came off as a clown to me… all smirky and back-country…. I just cannot imagine who came up with her name for VP.

3 10 2008
greydog

If they were innocent of the charges, why are they refusing to honor the subpoenas?

What are the Palins trying to hide?

3 10 2008
laura lee

Still waiting for the financial information on Palin – tick tock tick tock!!!

3 10 2008
Democrat G (formerly "G")

I had nightmares that McCain/Palin won the election TWICE last night. It was HORIBBLE!

Can we just convict her, she is guilty, of Troopergate, recall her from the office of Governor, and get McCain and Palin to disappear. It is scary that he is so old and has so many health problems and could be President with HER as the person who would become President if he dies. This is a HORRIBLE version of THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!

If there is a God, McCain and Palin will NOT win. No more Hitlers or Stalins of the world!

3 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Road Apple Palin

oc4obama – thanks much for providing that link

suchanut – the taxpayers are not the AG’s clients; employees of the state are to the extent that their work is part of their job description. Someone could make the argument that what they’ve done is beyond their official duties, but as long as those employees act within the confines of their official duties, the AG provides the legal representation. As for the petition, it will probably be handled in the same way that other political documents are handled… with great distain and inaction.

femalady – Palin used the name of a long-dead civil war general.

I, too, thought it odd that Palin did not jump all over the constant references to Exxon, especially as Biden continually made mention of the $4 billion tax break McCain wants to give that company. Strange how Palin spoke against the court ruling which allowed Exxon to not pay the full amount in damages for the oil spill, but then remains silent about giving them a massive tax break (more than enough to offset any amount they’d have to pay in Valdez damages). Guess it’s just not politically expedient to say/do the right thing, eh, Sarah?

I have an Obama campaign email inviting supporters to attend the Springstein rally; if I find it, I’ll post it.

3 10 2008
sfchemist

I’ve voted on that poll over 10x….just remove the tracking cookie or clear browsing data.

3 10 2008
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3 10 2008
Shove Maggot Palin aka the problem child

oc4obama (21:05:31) :
Thanks for the link to the brief. I read, relished and sent a congratulatory e-mail to Mr. Maasen.

3 10 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

laura lee (11:58:59) :

Still waiting for the financial information on Palin – tick tock tick tock!!!
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Go up to top, look right, and you’ll see a link to the Palin tax returns….go there!

4 10 2008
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5 10 2008
Calexfo

When corruption is halted by judges who see the light in Alaska, perhaps the whole USA will know the truth about a corrupt governor who has double talked her way to US everyday since being named a VP nominee for John McCain. Justice must be served and if the governor is guilty, throw her in jail. Those who are complicit in the “Troopergate” affair, let them face the hands of justice also. Criminal minds must be punished, even those of the Chief Executive and her cronies.




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