On Palin and Wolves.

25 09 2008

I’ve heard from many people in the past few weeks who want to know more about Palin and wolves. I’ll go on record right now as a staunch environmentalist. I don’t like to treat my world any different than I treat my house. I don’t like to do to living things what I don’t want done to me. I don’t like eating things that have been sprayed with stuff I wouldn’t spray on my own salad.

I know that not everyone feels this way. I also know that when I write, I like to write as an Alaskan. I’ve lived here almost 20 years, and my patterns of thinking have shifted quite a bit in that time. I ‘get’ Alaskans even though I wasn’t born here. But I also know them well enough to know when I fall out of line with typical “Alaskan thinking.”

That said, my feelings about hunting do not reflect the feelings of most Alaskans. I could write you a great piece on why I think aerial wolf hunting, or any kind of wolf hunting, is wrong, and why I’m outraged at the entire political process that has now legalized it in this state. I could get on my soapbox and have at it for a good long while. But it would definitely be colored by my own, very out of the main stream of Alaskan thinking. So, I have hesitated to talk about this issue “from an Alaskan perspective”, because I don’t believe I can.

Fortunately, I did know just the person to do it. Friend and fellow blogger Shannyn Moore was born in rural Alaska. If there’s anyone who can claim to be coming at this particular issue from a truly “Alaskan perspective”, she’s the one. She speaks about the wolf hunting issue as the daughter of a trapper, not a relocated environmentalist from the East Coast (not that there’s anything wrong with that). She agreed to write a post on her own blog about this topic and to let me cross-post here.

And as you read through the post, realize that I was one of the people who voted the wrong way on Ballot Measure 2, thanks to the confusing wording courtesy of our Lt. Governor, Sean Parnell.

Wolf in Governor’s Clothing

Shannyn Moore

The smell of fresh snow and the burning fuel of a Ski-Doo Olympic Snowmachine are part of my vivid childhood memories. I would hang on to my pop’s snowsuit, as we rode through Alaskan muskegs, down river banks, and up power line trails. Checking our trap line was dirty work. Bait consisted of freezer burnt salmon and road kill rabbit retrieval missions. I grew up with the smell of skinned mink, beaver, muskrats, coyotes, and wolves in my garage. We took the hides to the Fur Rendezvous in Anchorage and sold them. Staying in a hotel with plumbing and television was our decadent reward. I learned more about nature from trapping and hunting than I did from any biology class. Habits, tracking, instincts; I was in awe of the Nature around me and then I helped kill it. It wasn’t easy. Mink are smart as white collar thieves. They could get bait out of a trap nine times out of ten, and defecate before departing, a not-so-subtle message to Pop and I.

I don’t write these things to brag, just as fact. You may be revolted by this lifestyle, and I won’t argue. I share this to provide you the reference of my horror of aerial wolf hunting. Shooting wolves from planes is to hunting, what hiring a prostitute is to dating.

Alaska has a long history of bounties and hunting-much of it controversial. Aerial wolf hunting began in 1948. In 1972, Congress passed a law that prohibited aerial wolf hunting. Problem solved? No, under the guise of “wolf control,” permits were issued to “pilot gunner” teams in 1979. In 1992, under Governor Walter Hickel’s Administration, the Alaska Board of Game initiated a wolf control program with the goal of reducing numbers by 80%. Under threat of a massive tourist boycott, the “land and shoot” policy was reintroduced. During Democrat Governor Tony Knowles Administration, only non-lethal measures were used against wolves. The Wolf Management Reform Coalition collected 33,000 signatures to put an aerial wolf hunting ban on the November 1996 ballot; 59% of Alaskans voted for it, with the exception being a biological emergency. A Republican Legislature introduced SB74. This bill eliminated the need for a biological emergency to justify aerial wolf control and usurped the will of the people. Governor Knowles vetoed the bill and the Republican majority overrode it. In March of 2000, SB267 was passed which allowed hunters other than the state biologists to aerially shoot wolves. That same year, Alaskans voted on another ballot initiative to ban aerial wolf hunting by a 53% majority. In 2004, then Governor Frank Murkowski reinstated aerial wolf hunting to private hunters. He opened up 60,000 square miles of Alaska for the flying cowboys. All you needed was a plane and a permit.

With all of this history, we should have been prepared to deal with a Palin Administration hell bent on killing wolves. She and I were “raised by the same wolves”, and she wants to shoot them out of planes. She stacked the Alaska Board of Game with pro-aerial wolf hunters. She was successful at merging faulty science, Safari Club International interests and state funded propaganda; spinning a web of lies to masquerade as conservation. I’m not sure where it started; maybe a spam email promising penis enlargement from shooting mammals out of planes went viral. Running our policy on “Faith Based Science” hasn’t worked; animals you believe are here for you to rule, and exist because Noah got two of them on a boat and they managed not to eat each other is one thing. But if you refuse to use the brain God gave you for observation and noticing patterns of science, well, how good of a steward of the Earth are you? Years of classic, scientific studies by Adolph Murie and Vic Van Vallenbergh have been mocked or ignored. Their studies were in the field, observing the balance between wolves and ungulate populations. They proved what common sense verifies; wolves take the weak and the sick thereby strengthening the herds. The Alaska Board of Game lacks common sense and ignores science. The Board is loaded with Viagra starved, trigger-happy Alaska Outdoor Council and Safari Club International agenda driven thugs.

Because of declining hunter success throughout the 1990s, residents of McGrath were vocal about the need for aerial wolf control. They complained loudly and constantly that there weren’t enough legal moose to hunt. The most comprehensive moose population survey to date was done in the fall of 2001. Alaska Department of Fish & Game Biologists documented moose numbers and the bull/cow ratios within a 520 square mile area around McGrath known as the Experimental Micro Management Area or EMMA, as well as the rest of Game Management Unit (GMU) 19D East. The target ratio for a sustainable hunted population is 30 bulls/100 cows. Within the EMMA, that ratio fell to an unhealthy 18 bulls/100 cows. Outside EMMA and basically outside the range of lazy 4-wheeler hunters, that ratio was 44 bulls/100 cows-well above the healthy target. Here’s the kicker direct from the Alaska Department of Fish & Games official report “The low bull:cow ratio in this area (EMMA) results from an imbalance between hunting and recruitment. The bull:cow ratio in the remainder of GMU 19D East remains relatively high.”

In other words, the science from ADF&G’s own biologists contradicted the need for any predator control. Studies conducted for the McGrath Adaptive Management Team proved that over-hunting was the reason for the lack of moose in the area, not wolves. That data was buried and wolf control was implemented.

Right before the 2006 Election, Alaskans for Wildlife submitted 57,000 signatures to get another aerial wolf hunting ban in place. Newly elected Governor Palin and the ADF&G issued even more wolf kill permits and put up a $150 bounty. A state judge ruled Palin exceeded her authority and the bounty was scrapped. At the end of the 2007 legislative session, Palin flooded the legislature with bills to ease up on wolf hunting restrictions, but the bills were held up in committee. In the spring of 2008, Palin tried to declare wildlife an “asset” of the State to make their management off limits to ballot initiatives. She covertly tried to tack a wolf hunting bill on to an animal cruelty bill, SB 273, introduced by Senator Bill Wielechowski. Pun intended: she got shot down.

Last month Alaskans voted once again on Aerial Predator Control. The intent of the ballot initiative was simple enough; to prohibit the shooting of wolves and grizzly bears from aircraft. Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell, overseer of elections, did his part to insure the proposition language was confusing enough to guarantee failure:

Ballot Measure 2Bill Amending Same Day Airborne ShootingBALLOT LANGUAGEThis bill amends current law banning same-day airborne shooting to include grizzly bears. The bill permits the Board of Game to allow a predator program for wolves and grizzly bears if the Commissioner of Fish and Game finds an emergency, where wolves or grizzly bears in an area are causing a decline in prey. Only employees of the Department of Fish and Game could take part in the program. Only the minimum number of wolves or grizzly bears needed to stop the emergency could be removed. Should this initiative become law?

Parnell was dragged into court several times for misrepresenting the intent of the initiative on the ballot. Many Alaskans were confused by the ballot language. My neighbor is a retired state engineer. He is a bright man and a conservationist. He voted no despite being an outspoken opponent of aerial wolf killing. Had I not known to vote yes, I would have voted no too. Now, aerial predator control proponents can disingenuously claim that Alaskans favor killing wolves and bears from planes as evidenced by the 2008 vote on Ballot Prop 2.

Governor Palin did her part to defeat the initiative as well. She approved the use of public money and ordered the Alaska Department of Fish and Game to publish a 26-page full color pamphlet called “Understanding Intensive Management and Predator Control in Alaska.” It circulated through newspapers statewide and was mailed to tens of thousands of Alaskans just days before the election. The pamphlet emphasized “how well the current system is working.” Jim Marcotte, Director of Support for the Board of Game, said the pamphlet was not meant to influence voters-Really? Spending public money to tell Alaskans that the Aerial Wolf Control Program is necessary to protect our moose and caribou populations just before a statewide election wasn’t an attempt to influence the outcome? The fear machine was in full force. The message was clear: wolves threaten hunters’ ability to put food on the table. But the truth was more about putting pelts on a wall. In addition to the pamphlet and mailers, the state paid for Board of Game members to fly all over Alaska to “educate” the public on the benefits of predator control-again just before the election. This entire predator control program is about turning Alaska into a wild game farm. In response to the allegation that she signed off on a “propaganda campaign to justify the state’s barbaric wolf slaughter from the skies,” Palin said, “My understanding is this program was funded by the Legislature to factually explain game management practices to Alaskans, and I don’t have a problem with that.” The total bill for the “education” was $400,000. Nearly the same amount of money she vetoed for high school drop out prevention. It’s shameful she spent almost half a million dollars on pamphlets to compensate for Alaska’s prohibition on Cialis. Hey, if you’ve been shooting wolves out of planes, and you have an erection lasting for more than four hours, check the Boone & Crocket stats, you may have a trophy!

In June of this year, the ADF&G broke their own predator control regulations with the slaughter of 14 wolf pups near Point Moeller. Under the ADF&G Wolf Control Regulations (5AAC 92.110(i)), “Denning, the killing of wolf young in the den, is prohibited.” On site at the scene of the crime were Deputy ADF&G Commissioner for Wildlife, Ken Taylor, and The Director of ADF&G’s Division of Wildlife Conservation, Doug Larsen. Why were suits from Juneau involved in a routine field operation? Why do we pay them salaries to enforce laws they are either unaware of, or choose to break? Perhaps they knew they were breaking their own law and were there to support the cover-up and clean up crew.

ADF&G Biologists want to “maintain” caribou herd numbers between 3,000-4,000 animals on the Alaska Peninsula near Port Moeller. According to former ADF&G Commissioner Ron Skoog, the caribou populations on the Alaska Peninsula have fluctuated many times over the last several decades. Indeed, the caribou population on the Alaska Peninsula has dropped to 500 or fewer at least 3 times over 132 years. ADF&G Biologists obtained emergency permission to kill wolves by misleading the Board of Game and Alaskans to think the current decline is unprecedented. This is clearly NOT the case.

Sarah Palin has been in a position to do the right thing for the wildlife of Alaska. Independent Alaskan Biologists have been begging for her ear. Faith based science is not science, yet it is what she has used in her policy making; mocking legitimate studies, and embracing big game hunters. The Rapture is not an environmental policy nor is it a game management policy.

It’s been a long time since I set or checked a trap. I’ve spent hours behind a camera, camping in bear refuges, in awe of the nature of Alaska. When I was a child, I had no idea how big the world was, or how tamed parts had become. Looking at the world, I know Alaska is precious in its wildness. Why can’t we just let Nature run wild?

Photos courtesy of Florian Shulz; Special thanks to Leo and Dorothy Keeler.


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25 09 2008
A Nana from Alaska

Thanks for the post. If anyone wants to donate to Obama/Biden campaign directly on behalf of Alaska’s wolves, you can do so at:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/dashboard/main/AlaskanWolves

Lots of donations–large or small will help the Obama campaign at this critical time and help send Palin a message.

25 09 2008
A Nana from Alaska

The manipulation of the ballot initiative in the August primary election demonstrates that Alaska has a long way to go before it achieves ethics in government.

25 09 2008
sauerkraut

Yaye, Shannyn!!

The line which really caught my eye…

“Shooting wolves from planes is to hunting, what hiring a prostitute is to dating.”

25 09 2008
TheraP

Ok. On the front page you now a photo of the dead wolf hanging from the plane. And right below that is the title: “witch hunter.”

Too Perfect!

25 09 2008
Icy Russia Palin

Wonderfully detailed and researched piece, Shannyn….thank you! I’ve been wondering why PETA hasn’t spoken out more about Palin. I doubt that most Alaskans are PETA fans, however, it’s a group that really knows how to garner attention when they want to. The issue is not hunting for food, but rather, the disdain Palin has shown towards animals and the environment.

25 09 2008
epic

Loved it but… page breaks and paragraph? Pretty please?

I tried and tried and tried….and then I threw a stack of papers in the air and got coffee. Sigh…. AKM

25 09 2008
sauerkraut

sooo… lemme see if I understand this correctly…

she spends 400k of the taxpayers money to “educate” voters… or miseducate voters, on the need to vote a certain way in the voting booth but… but… at the same time rejects spending a similar amount of funds to address high school drop-out issues?

Am I getting this right or am I missing something?

Or does the governor of Alaska operate the government while having her head stuck firmly up her behind? Isn’t her approach to the ballot issue very similar to the police funding/ice hockey arena issue while she was mayor of Wasilla??

25 09 2008
DELNORTECO

Where I live we hunt,but this just makes me sick.Not every hunter does this.

25 09 2008
nswfm

Vegetarians Against Palin.
She stinks, and I feel sorry for Alaskans–I know the bar was set VERY low with the guy before her.

25 09 2008
SexyC

Okay, Shannyn, how about the story on Brad Hanson and Mrs. Palin. Not sure any validity but they have a in-law of Hanson confirming said relationship and First Dud knew about it which is why they shut down the snowmobile business.

25 09 2008
MinNJ

I think we all share a common history of hunting and gathering. On the east coast, aside from fishing, we mostly go to stores these days (athough I live on a property with 250 chickens and sell the eggs.)

The dating/prostitute line is priceless!

25 09 2008
kimosabe

The wolf hunt allows “hunters” to kill some things so they can kill more things. Has anyone seen the photo of Palin’s parents home in Wasilla? There are dozens, if not hundreds, of skins, skulls, antlers, stuffed kills, and other bits of dead animals on every wall and every piece of furniture. The source of Palin’s blood lust is apparent.

25 09 2008
Grammy a/k/a Commando Coalfire Palin

The story, but especially the picture, brought tears to my eyes.

25 09 2008
lemonfair

AKM – I left you a little love note to Alaska on the last thread, and this post just leaves me in awe of those of you who can live side by side with so many people who want to do this. This is a very hard post to read. Very painful. And this woman thinks she’s doing what God wants her to do. It makes me weep. I wish you all well. I do. not. understand how people. can. do. this.

25 09 2008
2ebbandflow

There certainly is a big difference between blatantly killing for killing sake and hunting for sustenance.
We, very much, appreciate your writings on the subject.

25 09 2008
ocliberal

Wow! Thanks AKM for once again shining a bright light on something that we from below don’t understand. I don’t support hunting and guns myself, but I wasn’t raised with it so I know it’s a losing argument in many circles. Thanks for showing the compassionate side of this issue from a hunter’s point of view. And also thank you for exposing – once again – how Palin always shows up on the wrong side of any issue that involves humanity and compassion.

In other news.
Dailykos has excerpt from Palin’s second interview with Katie Couric. Words fail me. Unfortunately words didn’t fail Palin as she ‘splains why being next to Russia makes her a foreign policy expert.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/25/141534/323/1003/610224

(I’m still predicting she is cut from the ticket in the next week. There is no way she can debate Biden – no way, no how, no Republican party left if she does!)

25 09 2008
lemonfair

I’m afraid McCain will do just fine tomorrow against Obama though. He gets a surge of endogenous adrenalin when he feels he’s in a corner. He’ll come over all self-righteous and take credit for making a financial deal happen (his surrogates are already doing that for him), and he’ll say sober things in words of one syllable, and people will think he’s so strong, especially when Obama can’t resist letting things be as complex as they really are.

But I agree, it’s hard to see how Palin can debate Biden. She “practiced” with the press today, taking 5 questions. Funnily enough, I thought the debate I saw on C-Span was pretty good, in that she seemed energetic and like she had formed opinions about things she knew about. How many people who watch her debate will quietly change their minds about taking a chance on her Presidency.

25 09 2008
epic

She should already be under the bus! Any other running mate in any and all campaigns would have been gone after the Gibson interview.

Something, some other dynamic is holding her place for her.

25 09 2008
JJB

Thanks for the background on the issues with Wolves – much appreciated🙂

As an Aside, I see that Palin is not getting much more coherent in her discussions with the press today ( although at least she was answering some questions …. in a fashion😉 )

25 09 2008
Bobg

ocliberal-I sure hope she doesn’t get cut before she debates Biden. The way the economy is these days laughs are few and far in between.

25 09 2008
All Blue

Help America see this sick side of Sarah Palin:
donate so this ad about her wolf policy can get more airtime on TV.

Click on link below to see the ad that’s been created, and is running dependent on funds for buying airtime.

https://secure.defenders.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=c406_091608palin_tv_share&JServSessionIdr001=eaq7vvdo81.app23a

This is Defenders of Wildlife – they’re basically a non-profit, doing things like getting the Polar Bear listed as endangered. But they also have an action fund that helps in situations like the Sarah Palin problem.

25 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

WOW! What an insightful piece. I really enjoyed the information about the ratio of cows to bulls based on the location. It just shows that people see what they want to see and not what is really there. It is actually very sad.

25 09 2008
Laurie

@lemonfair

Take a gander at Andrew Halcros blog. He has some interesting things there as well.

I watched the gubernatorial debates on cspan. Yes…sarah sounded..well..ok. I thought however, Andrew’s responses were far more deliberate, thought out, and ariculated. She had the same coy expressions and movements that we see in the recent photo ops she has had.

I asked Andrew why the debate seemed to go in her favour, and a couple of people responded to me as to their thoughts on it. I am assuming these same people were Alaskans.

Andrew did mention though, that the morning after a debate with him, they were at a breakfast meeting together. She commented to Andrew that he was so well prepared…and that he had such an excellent grasp of the issues.

In the next breath, she told him that she just looked out over the crowd, and thought…”does any of that really matter???”

That told me a lot about Sarah Palin. I hope that this time around…for Americans especially, that yes….it DOES matter.

25 09 2008
Sharon/California

Quote:

“Running our policy on “Faith Based Science” hasn’t worked; animals you believe are here for you to rule, and exist because Noah got two of them on a boat and they managed not to eat each other is one thing. But if you refuse to use the brain God gave you for observation and noticing patterns of science, well, how good of a steward of the Earth are you?”

OK …… somebody, ala Rachel, talk me down.

Convince me that not everything – I mean EVERYTHING – that this woman does, is not based on her ungodly (no pun) belief system.

25 09 2008
winstonsmithcloned

late breaking news. Chief Executive Sarah Palin says on national television that she has been involved in negotiations with Russia.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n

odd that the McCain campaign has missed that credential to date.

just goes to show the power of a yes or no answer.

If someone asks you if you did something that appears powerful, answer Yes!

25 09 2008
jimstaro

Jim,
I removed your link which contained personal information. Repost a blank form.
Thanks!
AKM

25 09 2008
Swallow

Very well said and cited. I will be voting for the wolves this election!🙂

25 09 2008
Steph

SexyC-The affair is true. I do occasional free lance research for the NE, so I know they took their time and were very careful with this one. They took down Edwards and Palin is going down, too. Well, we can hope, anyway.

The NE is non-partisan in their adultery scandals.

25 09 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Cobra

Argh…. every European can be VP:

COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.

PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our– our next door neighbors are foreign countries. (Dinky little hand movement).

Ummmmm…

AKM – thanks for the wolf stuff. Big no-no doing that sort of thing here, and almost everyone up where I am has at least one person in the family who hunts – for food.

25 09 2008
Sharon/California

jimstaro – FYI, you might want to get your personal info off that link.

25 09 2008
Laurie

What will Palins supporters think about her negotiations with Russia…how will the campaign spin this one? Did she misquote herself? WTF is going on???

25 09 2008
Soldotna Sue

Off topic:

I’m sorry. I’m an Alaskan who loves moose and wolves too! The moose are like pets going through our yard.

Right now I’m worried about a different wolf whose name is John McCain. The idiot ran back to DC this morning after both parties are saying that they have a bailout deal. He runs into Baynor’s office and Baynor comes out and tells the media that they don’t have a deal yet! McCain is trying to take credit for getting the Repubs coming on board! Once again he’s too late to make it look credible! What a goofball! Now, I suppose he’ll say that he can’t make it to the debate tomorrow night!

25 09 2008
JJB

Agreed – jimstaro – you need to correct that link ( or probably email AKM and get it amended )

25 09 2008
epic

I would just shake my head and knock it gently on the nearest hard surface if, after all the screaming and yelling and pointing about the lack of qualifications, the malice, the lack of principals, the opportunism, the nepotism, the cronyism the lying and the fiscal incompetence… it’s the bloody SEX SCANDAL that finally sticks!

I mean… Jeeez!

25 09 2008
Smitty

I can’t thank you enough for this post. I have spent so much time on this heartwrenching issue.
If you care about ending this practice FOREVER please CONTRIBUTE TO THE ONLY 527 “WITH TEETH”

defendersactionfund.org

Obama has been silent on this issue. Defenders endorsed him as the lesser of 2 evils. Contributing to this ad will get it played in key swing states.
So far the response has been pretty good but we can do better!!!

25 09 2008
bPoint

I love the way Katie was able to get Sarah to say the press “mocked”

25 09 2008
Smitty

At the very least, please hit this video on youTube so that we can have the million hits we need for free press.

Many in corp media, some of whom I know personally, said they will air this as part of campaign coverage IF we hit 1M, between the 2 ads, we are halfway there.

Contribute if you can, even $5-10 bucks will make a difference

thanks & remember extinction is forever. 10 years ago 20,000 wolves, today 7,000. Over 80% of the wolves killed are from out of state trophy hunters and campaign contributors of Palin.

25 09 2008
MJC

I’ve now watched three different segments of Palin’s interview with Katie Couric, and each time I’ve said to myself, “this can’t possibly get any worse.” And each time I’ve proved myself wrong.🙂

25 09 2008
Cathy aka Fog Piles

@lemonfair:
I’m wondering if you’re from near Middlebury, Vermont! I know there’s a Lemon Fair river in the area.

25 09 2008
bPoint

McCain finally made it to Washington!
Now the bailout deal is falling apart. He is behind the dismantling of the deal.
Is he doing this to sidestep the debate tomorrow night?
Crocodile tears!

25 09 2008
Steph

OK, THANK YOU SHANNYN!

I put up the ad from Wildlife Defenders on my blog this morning, just to try to get some of the readers of my blog to donate to get the ad on television. I would LOVE to have that ad run during the VP debate. (Which IS going to occur after all. Nice try, McCain…)

I am also a non-hunter, but my husband used to hunt before we got married, so he is my source for all things “hunting”. He was absolutely appalled by a) shooting wolves, b) shooting wolves with a 12 gauge shotgun and c) shooting wolves from an aircraft. He “gets” hunting more than I do, and said, as Shannyn did, that it is a process of tracking, outsmarting the deer (or whatever) and being very patient. (Yes, he has been outsmarted by deer and ducks.) He said there is nothing sporting at all in this, and he really didn’t understand why it would be fun. He called it “pathetic, cruel and NOT hunting” He explained that ALL “real” hunters want a clean, painless kill. No one wants the animal to suffer.
The ad tore me up because the wolf appears to be pleading with the people in the airplane before he shoots it. How can anyone do that? And what the hell is wrong with Sarah Palin to actually endorse this? She is missing an empathy gene or something. Cruel to animals, cruel to children who are not hers (I’ll give her a pass on their names), cruel to rape victims, cruel to non-Christians, cruel to anyone who crosses her path.

We really need to evaluate if this is someone we want anywhere near funding for our schools, children, vulnerable adults….well, you get the picture. I just don’t get her. I don’t get why others like her or what they see in her. I’m at a loss here…

25 09 2008
epic

MJC

See what I mean? and they let her do that after yesterdays debacle.

It does not compute.

25 09 2008
Libbs

What kind of kryptonite is in John McCain’s pocket…he just walks into Washington and the deal collapses?

What?

25 09 2008
Digital Dame

Absolutely sickening. I just… wow. Being another former East Coaster where hunting is not really the norm the way it is out here in the West, I will never understand hunting for sport. I just won’t. This is revolting.

25 09 2008
Terry T.

I belong to ‘Defenders of Wildlife’, they help protect wildlife in a number of ways including keeping folks like me informed on what is happening to Alaska’s magnificent wolves. If you would like to know the truth visit them at: http://www.defenders.org and PLEASE give them a little something. They do good work. P.S. This blog is my HERO!

25 09 2008
ocliberal

bpoint:I love the way Katie was able to get Sarah to say the press “mocked”

I loved the way Sarah was trying to say I believe ‘caricature’ but only got ‘cari’ out and Karie had to help her out with ‘mock’.

Over at Kos they are tearing her up over this little ‘misspeak’
COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? … Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions.

Reducing taxes has got to accompany tax reductions. Can someone explain what that means. I’m sooo confused!

25 09 2008
MJC

Are you guys kidding? Two hours ago I heard on CNN that they were VERY close to an agreement on this “BAILOUT” (now known as the) “RESCUE”.

What is McInsane doing now?

25 09 2008
disenchanted tore

bPoint- that was a brilliant feed on Katie’s part (although I was totally enjoying the squirm factor before Katie offered to *help out* lol).

25 09 2008
kai

hello, I believe this is the first time I’ve commented here. Love the blog!

Anyway, starting off-topic here: I was driving this morning and listening to Rachel Maddow on KTLK (Progressive radio/Air America) here in Southern California and one of her guests (or maybe just a caller) gave a shout-out to your blog and it made smile. You’re doing an awesome, awesome job!

So back to the topic of this aerial hunting. I am really not ‘learned” with this topic but I will just take it as I see/read it. I know wolves (at least the gray wolves) in Alaska are not endangered, I’m not a vegetarian but I do think I eat less meat than the average American, and excessive killing is just plain wrong. To think that we’re having enough problems as it is filling up our gas tanks, they have to shove this in our face? Oh yeah, we’re too lazy to run after our prey so we’ll just go on our planes and shoot from the sky! How lazy and impatient can they be?!

Welcome to the conversation! And thanks for relaying the Rachel Maddow story. 🙂 AKM

25 09 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Thank you Shannyn. It really is a complicated set of circumstances to follow, so I appreciate your thoroughness in describing it.

And, of course, AKM deferred to someone with a more traditional Alaskan background for this task…but we would expect nothing less;)

I’m getting that this is further indication of how street-smart SWWNBN can be. It almost feels like the girls snickering on the locker room after dunking some poor girls bra in the shower, knowing she’ll have to wear it wet to class.

Where does this mean-spirited empowerment come from? Am I to believe that this sureness comes from the pulpit? Am I to believe that Evangelical thought has expanded the old Papal Infallibility to each and every single church member?

I bridle at accepting that argument, but maybe that’s just the kind of person I am. I’d rather believe that someone like SWWNBN gravitates to a house of absolutes because she was wired that way anyway.

Certainly, this is a dangerous person. This is a Cheney-like personality. In fact, I need to do some research on wolves in Wyoming when Cheney was a senator there. Good assignment for me.

In any case, it’s time to take the “mean girl” to task for lies, tricks, manipulations…oh,wait I started describing SWWNBN and ended up describing the current VP…maybe McCain did really know what he was doing (horrors1)

25 09 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Wonderful article about hunting! Like many others I was raised by a father that hunted. He hunted for food. Everything he brought home was intended for the table.

In recent years he still goes on his hunt and it is still food, but he limits himself to one. Period. He also gave up Bow hunting several years ago as he realized how cruel it was.

Anyone who aerial hunts is a coward in my book and not a hunter. They are all about killing.

25 09 2008
jackie

i’d like to give her a running start and do some of my own arial shooting..

25 09 2008
RW

AKM-

I find that I have a hard time reading Shannyn’s blog, because of the bold typeface she uses, along with the lack of breaks between paragraphs. I just can’t read her posts.

I don’t know if you know this tip or not- but if you copy/paste her text, and put it into Notepad, it will get rid of all that preformatted text. Then, you can copy/paste from Notepad into your blog.

Just food for thought. I’d love to read what she wrote, but my eyes won’t let me.

25 09 2008
akmuckraker

Someone needs to count the number of times she says “shore up the economy” in the interview. It’s the new “Charlee”.

25 09 2008
epic

That would be Jonah McCain?

25 09 2008
Erin

OFF TOPIC:

I need some help deciding which sign to bring to the Alaskans for Truth rally on Saturday.

Here are my ideas:

1. You can cover up the truth but it’s till the TRUTH

2. TELL THE TRUTH, SARAH

3. The cover up is worse than the lie

4. Open, No
Transparent, Yes

5. Karl, is that you under all that makeup?

25 09 2008
Judy

She’s a barbarian. I can’t relate to her at all. I hope after this is all over I never have to see her again. Yuk.

25 09 2008
epic

I like “Piss off back to the stone age.”

25 09 2008
Bobg

I refuse to watch anymore Palin interviews. I have a cousin whose mind is warped by excessive drug use. He is now on methadone. When he speaks to you, you can listen intently but you will never have any idea what he’s talking about. One sentence has no connection to the next sentence out of his mouth. Sarah Palin talks the same way. I never have any idea what she is talking about. And I though Bush was a bad speaker!

25 09 2008
bPoint

@ocliberal

Thanks for the good laugh.

The cumulative effect of watching her interviews has piqued. I do not want to see her debate. It would just be running up the score. I can almost visualize one of her handlers walking on stage putting her around Sarah shoulders and leading her away, while looking scornfully at Joe Biden and Gwen Ifill and snearing, “You planned this.”

25 09 2008
krmyers

If you love wildlife and want to do your part, please consider donating to the Alaska Wildlife Alliance in Sarah Palin’s honor. They have been working tirelessly on the part of our wildlife, and are the only Alaskan organization solely dedicated to protecting Alaska’s wildlife. Their website is http://www.akwildlife.org, email info@akwildlife.org and phone number is 277-0897. They even said they would send a beautiful wildlife thank you card directly to Sarah.

25 09 2008
lemonfair

Cathy aka Fog Piles:

North of Middlebury, near Burlington! How nice of you to notice. Nobody’s really sure how the lemonfair got its name, but lots of us think it’s from “les monts verts” – Vermont, in other words, the Green Mountains. So it’s my little Vermont name.

25 09 2008
bPoint

This link is brilliant:

Watch the video, please!

“He’s been irrelevant to the process. He remains to be,” said Frank. “I was afraid that his dropping in here, like Andy Kaufman’s Mighty Mouse — ‘here I am to save the day’ — I thought that would slow things down. I didn’t see any sign of our Republican colleagues paying any attention to him whatsoever.”

25 09 2008
AZtopcat

What Hillary did for the process of electing a woman for president, Sarah has destroyed in one short month , about women not be taken seriously. As a woman I am most angry at her for that!!!

25 09 2008
lemonfair

Cathy aka Fog Piles:

Are you a Middlebury grad by any chance? (my sister was. I’m UVM- Universitas Viridis Montis – another version of the Green Mountains)

25 09 2008
Bobg

AK Mudraker-where can we get the yellow boots lapel pins? Just think-all of our friends will ask us what the yellow boots mean. What an opening to tell them about the Dragon lady.

25 09 2008
lemonfair

Bobg – what a great idea.

25 09 2008
MJC

Hi Judy,
I hate to burst your bubble but I’ve heard the Evangelicals equate Sarah Palin to the Biblical “Esther” and even “Joan of Arc”, so Palin ain’t going anywhere.

So, your only hope is this:
#1 She get’s Raptured (or)
#2 We get Raptured, and she gets Left Behind.

25 09 2008
epic

AZtopcat

I assure you that I take her seriously. The possibility that she embodies scares the s**t out of me.

Really.

25 09 2008
ocliberal

Mudflats also got on shoutout on Stephanie MIller this morning from one of the callers.
Wow.🙂 AKM

25 09 2008
Lulu

Just watched today’s Couric interview with Palin. She moves her hands so much it’s like a puppet show!

25 09 2008
Grammy a/k/a Commando Coalfire Palin

Erin

I vote for TELL THE TRUTH SARAH

25 09 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Erin (11:44:13) :

My vote:

5. Karl, is that you under all that makeup?

25 09 2008
bPoint

The Couric interview is a disaster for Palin.

I think CBS is seriously considering editing out the piece where Sarah suggests “John and I could sell the bad mortgages on e-Bay.”

25 09 2008
epic

I’d love to be a fly on the wall at that confession

25 09 2008
Grammy a/k/a Commando Coalfire Palin

TerryT

Thanks for the link to Defenders – the ad they are going to air is so horrible and graphic – it will definitely hit home w/ a lot of people. And hopefully they will donate.

25 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

Erin,
I like number 5, “Karl is that you under all that makeup?” Nice!

Or “under that lipstick!”

25 09 2008
epic

“John and I could sell the bad mortgages on e-Bay.”

Not with your feedback darlin’

25 09 2008
Laurie

ugh….I dont know if I can watch the balance of Palins interview. Hah..who am I kidding…I know I cant resist.

I am so darn obsessed with this whole mess…that I had to ensure that the hotel I will be staying at starting tonight through Monday…has internet in the rooms! I will let hubby go and entertain himself tomorrow night while I watch the debate.

How did we ever get to this point folks?

25 09 2008
Bobg

bPoint-she really didn’t say that they would sell the mortgages on eBay did she? Please tell me that you’re pulling our leg.

25 09 2008
fawnskin chipdragon mudpuppy

lol…”not with your feedback darlin”

25 09 2008
Cathy aka Fog Piles

lemonfair-
We lived in Middlebury for a couple of years (2001-2003) while my husband worked at the college. We have a cabin on Lake Hortonia and spend our summers in Vermont (we live in Ohio the other 9 months). I’m a Wooster grad, actually!

25 09 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

bPoint (12:06:13) :

The Couric interview is a disaster for Palin.

I think CBS is seriously considering editing out the piece where Sarah suggests “John and I could sell the bad mortgages on e-Bay.”
———————————————

Come on! I hope you are joking aren’t you? She did not really say that? You are kidding, right? I could only watch the first one. I cannot watch the rest so I am relying on other people’s comments on Mudflats to keep me informed. So please tell me that you are joking?

25 09 2008
Grammy a/k/a Commando Coalfire Palin

Smitty, thanks for the UTube link on the Defenders ad – I cry every time I watch it – don’t think I’ve seen such up close and personal barbarianism ever! I am sending that link out to everyone I know.

25 09 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

Based on my years in the wilds of Washington State I would say the preditors that need to be controled are of the two legged kind. We have the same problem in rural Washington with the deer population. It came across clearly to me in this article that poaching or taking more than your fair share (usually limit is one) is contributing to this.
Sarah Palin should know this as well if she has lived in a rural area most of her life. But heaven forbid facts should get in the way of what she wants.
Any one in Alaska do you have the ability to file voter driven initives that would repeal this? Is anything in the works? Years ago voters in this state repealed the sales tax on food, it went fine for a year then they had a budget shortage and the legislatures decided to vote the sales tax on food back on with out letting the people have a say. Some one wrote up an initive, got all the signatures and had it on the next ballot (about 3 months) to once again remove the sales tax on food. People were so ticked that it passed by 92% never been a higher approval of anything in the state. The guy who proposed the bill and wrote it (some republican from E Washington) received only 14% of the vote in his county and lost his seat. That was 20 years ago or more and we have never heard another peep on the sales tax for food since. The masses getting p*ssed really tends to frighten goverment types into submission quickly. Just like the rest of us Alaska may need to stand up and put their government in their place as the public servants they are.

25 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

I think a great sign for Saturday (Hold Palin Accountable) should be something along the lines of her great line last night with Katie, “I find some and bring um to ya.” So something like “Sarah, can you find the truth and bring it me?”

25 09 2008
epic

HamletsMill

“John and I could sell the bad mortgages on e-Bay.”

Heh. no.

But from Bpoints’ lips to Gods ear.

25 09 2008
epic

“Sarah, can you find the truth and bring it me?”

“In what sense?”

25 09 2008
bPoint

AZtopcat

Nothing that Hillary has done will be undone by Sarah Palin. If anything Hillary stature is more solid and desirable when contrasted to Sarah Palin. Running the United States is not a job for a man or a woman, it is a job for a Leader, and a pragmatic diplomat with a crystal clear vision of, and for the United States and the world. Running and being elected president or vice president is only the beginning of a journey that requires great understanding and humility for the responsibility of hindsight in order to have the proper bearings for the future. Hillary has that. Obama has that. John McCain is great senator, but he is not a president, because he does not have that. Sarah Palin does not.

When this is all over, which ever Senator returns to the Senate they will go back to work for the American people, like Hillary did after the primaries. Sarah is sounds like will make the rounds assigning blame for the injustice of not understanding the kind of women she is. She isn’t Hillary.

I am not a big Clinton fan…but Hillary Clinton is a very serious and thoughtful leader and when this is all over she will still be standing tall, long after she and Bill are gone. Sarah Palin, I am not even sure if we’ll notice when she’s gone.

25 09 2008
bPoint

@Hamlet

I am joking!!!

25 09 2008
mimi

I am truly moved. What an amazing (and heartbreaking) article.

25 09 2008
epic

bPoint

“I am joking!!!”

Yeah. but just think. It wasn’t immediately apparent.

AliceWorld or what?

25 09 2008
Shove Maggot Palin aka the problem child

Erin: I’d go with no. 5. Karl, is that you under all that makeup? Also works with Dubya, or with Dick.

25 09 2008
Debbie aka Commando Coalfire Palin

I am going to tell you this all once since AKM mentioned Sarah and her “Shor up the economy” stuff. This bail out is little more than a band aid and is really meant to keep the country limping along until after the election , or in Georges wildest dreams until the day after he leaves office, it probably will not fix anything. Herbert Hoover tried this same thing in 1931 and you don’t need much knowledge of history to know it didn’t work out very well.

25 09 2008
Butterfliesatnight

I believe the bible states you are not to hunt what you don’t intend to eat or use as garments or other important factors. As well as the Native Americans, there is a reason for each animal on this earth and each part if killed should be used wisely.

25 09 2008
NMJ

This is an excellent, well-written article on the far-reaching effects of Palin’s faith-based method of environmental and species control. Her embrace of creationism (lower case deliberate) and denial of science will have disastrous effects on the interrelationship of species (and therefore on humans) for generations to come. I think the title says it all:

Sarah Palin’s Creationism Will Rape the Environment
http://www.alternet.org/election08/99714/sarah_palin%27s_creationism_will_rape_the_environment/?page=entire

25 09 2008
Smitty

TERRY T

We’re on the same page, I am a member and an activist for defenders as well, but we need to direct ALL our funding and efforts right now to

DEFENDERSACTIONFUND.ORG

With the success of this 527 ad we are raising awareness of this problem and will better be able to support the PAW act (HR3663) sponsored by Rep George Miller D-CA to BAN this practice EVERYWHERE.

25 09 2008
Laurie

@Debbie…I hear you. Even some of the pundits being interviewed the last few days are saying the same thing. I briefly watched Canada AM this morning, and the people invited to speak there, were saying similar things.

Bottom line…most of them are saying they have NO idea if this will work or not. They are spending 800 billion dollars on a wing and a prayer.

25 09 2008
epic

Sarah, this can’t be fun anymore. If you can find a way to walk it back, I think you should.

25 09 2008
scottish-mud-fan

Hmm, bailout… Is this likely?

“My colleague Nora McAvalnah tells me that sources close to Senate Democratic leadership now fear that McCain’s true motivation for calling off his campaign and coming back to DC is simply to cast a “no” vote against the bailout, despite his private statements to the contrary. And it’s a smart maneuver: nothing says “maverick,” like voting against Bush and standing with the American public, who remain very wary of the proposal.”

25 09 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Being reported on Breitbart

Palin kept donations from tainted politicians

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93DV4SGD&show_article=1&catnum=0

25 09 2008
Laurie

Living most of my life in the Canadian north…my husband is an avid outdoorsman. He hunts and has since he was a boy. Last fall though…something happened.

In all the years of his hunting he never actually killed anything. Well when deer hunting with pals last year he shot and killed a deer. I will never forget his face when he returned from his trip. After telling me what he got..(I hate saying shot) he told me that he was so excited while aiming. He said the animal looked huge. When he approached afterwards…he said he saw Bambi looking back at him.

I felt sorry for him. He told me never again. I am grateful…but I am just sorry that the poor deer had to die for him to see the light. We dont NEED to kill these animals to survive. Those that do…I can respect, and I do. To kill just to do so…to have a trophy of some kind makes me nauseous.

I showed him the video of the airial hunting and he was stunned. There is no sport in that…it disgusted both of us.

25 09 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Can’t talk about the wolves yet – that’s just heartbreaking.

25 09 2008
bPoint

@scottish-mud-fan (12:39:51) :

John McCain is rolling the dice again. Let’s say he kills this, using this political strategy, the Democrat majority is going to drive him up the wall to come up with terms everyone can work with, then at the 11th hour, while Tucker Bounds is brushing his hair for his spot on CNN…They dems are going to pull the rug out from under the Maverick thing another couple of days will pass and the market confidence around the world will pause and maybe slowly, maybe quickly retreat.. Who will pay? Each of those Senators will be employed in 6 months, but will all of us Americans be?

25 09 2008
NY Dem

Palin Will Also Suspend Campaign
by Shushannah Walshe

NEW YORK–What does the McCain campaign suspension mean to the Palin half of the McCain-Palin ticket? According to campaign senior advisers, the suspension of the McCain campaign means that Palin has also suspended all campaign activities. She will attend John McCain’s speech tomorrow to the Clinton Global Initiative and then travel to Philadelphia tomorrow as previously scheduled.

Palin spokesperson Tracey Schmitt explained, “We are the McCain-Palin campaign and I think Senator McCain was clear about what it meant that he was suspending his campaign. . .We are part of the McCain-Palin campaign. It is one ticket.”

Palin was originally traveling to Philadelphia to spend the weekend preparing for her own debate scheduled for October 2nd in St. Louis, Missouri.

25 09 2008
NY Dem

Well, I guess since she can’t spend the weekend preparing, you can all but kiss the VP debate good-bye !

Wonder what the excuse will be for this cancellation ?

25 09 2008
Susan

Haha, you guys gotta check this out: Sarah Palin Disney Trailer

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

25 09 2008
Smitty

That makes it 5 shouts to AKM & mudflats on AirAmerica. Yesterday I called Stephanie Miller, Saturday it was Frangela, Monday it was Mike Malloy!!!

I love it when good things happen to good people like you.

This weekend is another MoveOn.org push for activism by members and I always mention the defendersactionfund.org ad in my conversation with out of staters (I’m confused – currently in VA as voter and activist – wanna go back home to CA but am needed more in VA & PA).

:-O Amazing. AKM

25 09 2008
ocliberal

If I were coming to the rally (And I wish I was!!!!)

I would bring the following signs.

Enough!!!!

Sarah Palin – “No Way, No How, No vote from me!

Palin: Thanks but no Thanks!”

Sarah Palin Ryhmes with “Are you Freaking kidding me?????”

Hey Sarah: Take off your glasses! They’re blocking your transparency!

Hey Sarah. Quit embarassing Alaska!

25 09 2008
epic

Laurie

If it’s going in the freezer and it’s not an endangered species I have no problem with shooting it. Anyone who eats meat has made that decision, albeit through a third party.

But to kill in order to watch it fall down…? Something’s wired wrong there.

25 09 2008
bPoint

NY Dem (12:48:58)

I will be you if they served Sarah Palin with a subpoena to be in Juneau next Tuesday, she will gladly announce she will be in St. Louis.

25 09 2008
Steph

Butterflies-
Sarah reads the bible of “this means what I say it means, not what G-d says it means” That’s why she doesn’t have to pay attention to the parts she doesn’t want to know about, like taking care of the poor, being responsible for the animals (also G-d’s creations) and loving your neighbor as yourself.

I’m not religious, but she thinks she is, so I hold her to that…Jesus never says to kill people, but he says to love them. My favorite story is the one about the adulteress. She was about to be stoned, and Jesus said, “Those who are without sin can cast the first stone.” (paraphrased…) and they all left-OLDEST TO YOUNGEST, they left. The older were indeed less affected by arrogance and bigotry and were less vengeful. Maybe Sarah Palin needs to re-read some of her scriptures.

There are ten commandments (well, we Jews have 613) but really, one covers most of them-Treat your neighbor as you yourself would like to be treated. If you do that, the rest fall in line. (My daughter told me that when she was 10) It’s so much simpler, and I believe it applies to ALL of G-d’s creatures.

25 09 2008
katiebegood

“bPoint (12:48:51) :

@scottish-mud-fan (12:39:51) :

John McCain is rolling the dice again. Let’s say he kills this, using this political strategy, the Democrat majority”

It is not “the Democrat majority”, it is the “Democratic majority”. Please don’t insult the party the same way the Republicans do.

25 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

Since the campaign is suspended what a great time for her to come back to Alaska and answer questions regarding Troopergate. Don’t you think?

25 09 2008
bPoint

katiebegood (12:55:34) :

Thanks for the heads up. I am one of those terrible people who has to be reminded to proofread and edit.

Sorry

25 09 2008
Regi

Ya know, I tell my son all the time his purgatory is going to be spent waiting around for the dog to finally feed him. I wonder what hell is in store for Palin and her ilk. And it’s not the hunting, people are crazy, whatever, but for her to manipulate the opposition into voting for that proposition is the work of Satan.

25 09 2008
katiebegood

scottish-mud-fan (12:39:51) :
Hmm, bailout… Is this likely?

“My colleague Nora McAvalnah tells me that sources close to Senate Democratic leadership now fear that McCain’s true motivation for calling off his campaign and coming back to DC is simply to cast a “no” vote against the bailout, despite his private statements to the contrary. And it’s a smart maneuver: nothing says “maverick,” like voting against Bush and standing with the American public, who remain very wary of the proposal.”

The Democrats need to tell McCain that they are not going to vote until he is on-board. If he refuses to publically declare he is on-board, then turn it over to the Republicans and McCain to come up with a plan, thereby putting the onus of a possible financial collapse on their shoulders.

I hope that the Democrats don’t trust the Republicans on this. They are very likely to pull a fast one the same way that McCain did on Obama yesterday.

25 09 2008
viki

Thanks, AKM, for this heart-wrenching reporting. Thanks to Shannon for her informed persepctive.

On another topic, I read an article about Palin today that presents an angle I’ve not heard before. Top military woman write about Palin’s use of sexual wiles in the brokering of her power. Fascinating…

http://www.truthout.org/article/palin-can-launch-us-back-time

25 09 2008
bPoint

Richard Shelby is on Fox saying the 44 leading economists have sent him a signed letter saying the Paulson proposal is not good at all. He goes on to explain the economists are from leading institution like Harvard, Yale and MIT.

Aren’t those universities elitist and isn’t the elite the Republicans enemies?

25 09 2008
scottish-mud-fan

@bPoint (12:48:51) :
@scottish-mud-fan (12:39:51)

I had a link for the quote about McCain possibly saying no to bailout, but it didn’t show up in my original post. Hopefully this will:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/scrambling_toward_a_compromise.php

25 09 2008
NMJ

It’s untrue that, when it comes to defending animals, Obama is the lesser of two evils. On September 22, the Humane Society Legislative Fund endorsed Obama for President, the first time they have ever endorsed a Presidential candidate.

They state: “We have members on the left, in the center, and on the right, and we knew it could be controversial to choose either party’s candidate for the top office in the nation. But in an era of sweeping presidential power, we must weigh in on this most important political race in the country. Standing on the sidelines is no longer an option for us.” The link to their press release is here:

Humane Society Legislative Fund Endorses Obama-Biden
https://community.hsus.org/humane/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=27497157

25 09 2008
Wondering_Lake

The more you write, the more I think I know you, Muckraker.

I notice you’ve thanked Dorothy and Leo Keeler here. To me, Dorothy is the muffin lady. And not just any muffins, mind you — the kind you measure all future muffins against. Amazing. Perhaps Dorothy’s muffins hold magical powers of comfort in my memory because of the circumstances in which she gave muffins out. Allow me to explain.

I used to work in Denali National Park, and some days started at 5AM and plowed through rain, mud, bus fumes and endlessly whining Princess tourists lamenting the lack of cable TV in their rooms. By 11am, still two hours from Eilson Visitor Center, I’d be trapped in a smelly old school bus encased in thick fog. A dark blob appears in the road ahead. A dark green minvan, stopped in the road near a fox den with new kits. It’s the muffin lady and her phototog husband! That van is the most beautiful sight inside Denali. It’s like running into Mrs. Claus in the pits of a coal mine. I’d get a delicious muffin, without fail, and the tourists would get to see the wildlife the Keelers were photographing.

Dorothy and Leo are the essence of Alaska to me. Good people who do good work, stewards of the environment and advocates of strong community. Sure, giving out muffins to ragged bus drivers, naturalists, and rangers seems like a small thing. But it’s this spirit of community that fostered great pride and loyalty to protecting the environment of Alaska. The more the locals loved the national park, the more we fought to protect it through educating tourists in the hopes they’d return back to the lower 48 with the same sense of environmental stewardship.

I want a muffin.

No, no. I want to give out muffins!

So to all of you in the lower 48 who think Sarah Palin is a typical Alaskan; think again. Think of the Muffin Lady instead.

25 09 2008
kyllikki

hey, thanks krmyers. i just checked out the website for Alaska Wildlife Alliance and they seem really awesome!

i just donated in honor of sarah, and encourage everyone to do the same!

http://www.akwildlife.org

25 09 2008
KittenStCyr

AKM you don’t need to apologize for your position on aerial wolf hunting.
It is not an unalaskan position in any way.
I’m married to a trapper; I make hats and slippers out of what were once cute little beaver, and my old man and I BOTH think aerial hunting is the worst kind of wildlife (mis)management. We take a moose when we can get one (and share and trade with our neighbors) because factory meat is FAR more cruel to animals, and, because moose and beaver are our available resources.
Trophy hunters may have a lot in common with our Governor, but those of us who work toward sustainable subsistence know that she is no friend to real hunters.

25 09 2008
NMJ

Slightly off-topic, but somehow it all relates.

Here’s another way of looking at McCain’s “bailout” on the election and debates:

Was McCain’s Stunt an Attempt at Palin Damage Control?
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2008/09/was-mccains-stunt-attempt-at-palin.html

25 09 2008
Erin

I just heard from a friend that the Republicans are sending an email around saying that Obama is going to oust Biden and put in Hillary.

25 09 2008
Bec in Illinois

Obama about to give post-meeting press conference at the Mayflower Hotel. They don’t say what McCain is doing.

25 09 2008
Bec in Illinois

Erin – we’ve seen the suggestion that McCain is going to dump Palin – so guess this is campaign tit for tat!

25 09 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Wondering_Lake (13:08:49) : So to all of you in the lower 48 who think Sarah Palin is a typical Alaskan; think again. Think of the Muffin Lady instead.
————————————————————————

What a lovely tale to share! I feel like this is my Madelyn L’Engle living room and that she is still with us.

25 09 2008
Nataraj Hauser

Thought you might want to know: National Enquirer published a story today about Sarah Palin having an affair with Todd’s ex-business partner.

25 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

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25 09 2008
scottish-mud-fan

Can anyone explain why Obama didn’t call McCain’s bluff by suggesting that the Friday debate be on the economy instead? That would appear to be a clever way of keeping with the debate but making it more relevant.

Is it because he is all prepped up on foreign policy and doesn’t want to change at this late date?
Or perhaps the whole economy thing is so up in the air that there would be major potential for disastrous slip-ups that could come back to haunt at a later date? Too risky?

25 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

My comments are not posting! boo-hoo hoo

25 09 2008
JoeAlvord aka Spoon Archer Palin

*****FREE MCCAINISTAN*****

The McCain people have taken over our state! Call the dept of law in the capitol and you get the McCain Campaign! Call the governor’s office and you get the McCain Campaign. They have brought lawyers from out of state to interfere with a legal investigation. (Incidentally many of them are practicing law in alaska without an Alaskan license, which is illegal.) They even have their own propaganda wing (ironically called the “Truth Squad”) to spread their lies. One of the lies is about the supposed 30 Obama lawyers in the state when the only outside lawyers are their own.
Don’t be mistaken. George Bush is not President in anything other than name. He is a hollow shell being run by a crowd of shadowy people who have just about sucked this country dry. Now the same crew is running the hollow shells called John McCain and Sarah Palin and is currently occupying our state of Alaska (aka McCainistan.)
Thank God for heroes like Les Gara and Mudflats who are standing up to these criminals. I fear for our country. We must all take heart and do what we can. I hope to see all of you mudpuppies who can make it to go out to the park strip for the Hold Palin Accountable rally on Saturday, 9/27 from noon to 2:00. Make great signs and show everyone that we want our state back.

25 09 2008
antiAnti

lemonfair – When there were still no traffic lights at the 5 corners (Essex Jct), I was birding near lemonfair and wondering about the name. Thanks for solving the mystery.

25 09 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

scottish-mud-fan (13:32:49) :

Even thought the topic is foreign affairs, there will be ample opportunity to address our current economy. Jim Lehrer will make sure of that. We’ve gotten used to seeing SP and her little edited interviews and seem to have forgotten what an actual debate entails. Look to tomorrow night!

Wheter McCain shows or not–and I think he must– there will be the economy!

25 09 2008
Erin

September 25, 2008
Palin takes questions from press corps for first time
Posted: 12:00 PM ET

From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby
Palin answered some questions from the traveling press corps, her first time doing so.
Palin answered some questions from the traveling press corps, her first time doing so.

NEW YORK (CNN) — Sarah Palin took questions from her traveling press corps Thursday for the first time since being tapped as John McCain’s running mate.

Speaking to a small pool of reporters following a visit to Ground Zero in lower Manhattan, Palin made a statement and then answered four questions, addressing the war on terror, the re-election bids of Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young, and the bailout legislation currently in front of Congress.

PALIN: Every American student needs to come through this area so that, especially this younger generation of Americans is, to be in a position of never forgetting what happened here and never repeating, never allowing a repeat of what happened here. I wish every American would come through here. I wish every world leader would come through here, and understand what it is that took place here and more importantly how America came together and united to commit to never allowing this to happen again. And just to hear and from and see these good New Yorkers who are rebuilding not just this are but helping to rebuild America has been very, very inspiring and encouraging. These are the good Americans who are committed to peace and security and its been an absolute honor getting to meet these folks today.

CNN: On the topic of never letting this happen again, do you agree with the way the Bush administration has handled the war on terrorism, is there anything you would do differently?

A: I agree with the Bush administration that we take the fight to them. We never again let them come onto our soil and try to destroy not only our democracy, but communities like the community of New York. Never again. So yes, I do agree with taking the fight to the terrorists and stopping them over there.

POLITICO: Do you think our presence in Iraq and afghan and our continued presence there is inflaming islamic extremists?

A: I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security of our nation, again, because the mission is to take the fight over there. do not let them come over here and attempt again what they accomplished here, and that was some destruction. terrible destruction on that day. but since September 11, Americans uniting and rebuilding and committing to never letting that happen again.

POLITICO: Do you support the reelection bids of embattled Alaska Republicans, Rep. Don Young and Sen. Ted Stevens?

A: Ted Stevens trial started a couple days ago. We’ll see where that goes.

POLITICO: Are you gong to vote for them?

[no answer.]

JERSEY JOURNAL: What do you think of bailout package before congress?

A: I don’t support that until the provisions that Sen. McCain has offered are implemented in Paulson’s proposals.

25 09 2008
ocliberal

Wondering_lake: Loved the Muffin story. Alaska has always held a fascination for me, as I’m sure it has for many of us down-under types. Sadly, I confess my view of Alaska is shaped mainly by reading Dana Stanebow mysteries and watching my treasured collection of Nothern Exposure episodes, both of which, I am very sure don’t represent you and the fine people of your state accurately (or even at all).

Unfortunately my first strong impression of real Alaskans was my rude and shocking introduction to one Sarah Palin, super Mom and right-wing zeanut.

I thank everything that is fine and good in this world that we were all lead to Mudflats. It gladdens me to the bottom of my heart to know that Sarah Palin does not really represent Alaskan women. AKM and all the other extraordinary Alaskan women who have wandered through this blog and espeically those who turned out at the first anti-Palin rally have competely restored my faith not only in the marvelous state of Alaska but also in this country.

25 09 2008
snowbelle

To AKM, Wondering_Lake and my new-found Alaska friends:

I marvel that my curiousity about SP has landed me in a community filled with such smart, caring, thoughtful and interesting people. I find myself visiting the mudflats when I’m outraged and enjoying it, as well as when I’m not enjoying it and need people to talk me down.

From Troopergate to Brian the Moose’s leafy headdress, I love this place and am so grateful to have found you all!

Muffins for everyone!

25 09 2008
C from CO

@NMJ (13:11:59) :

Slightly off-topic, but somehow it all relates.

Here’s another way of looking at McCain’s “bailout” on the election and debates:

Was McCain’s Stunt an Attempt at Palin Damage Control?

I wonder what McCain has planned to do for damage control after Part 2 of the interview airs this evening. Based on the preview someone posted earlier, Part 2 is just as bad as Part 1.

25 09 2008
Former Alaskan Girl

I didn’t have time to read the post, but I do share the earth with wolves and all the other creatures in the evolutionary process, and part of my opinion reflects some of the years spent in Wyoming–where there was hue and cry over poisoning coyotes, wolves, and birds of prey. Because, as one ad depicted, eagles could pick up a lamb and carry it to their nestlings. It is not fair, not right, not Buddhist nor Christ-like, and not justified that the big game hunter takes the annual two-week vacation from the Lower ’48 to the Great Land for sport killing. Hiking, yes. Swatting mosquitoes, perhaps, but not aerial hunting of anything except occasionally photos. (Air fuel costs a pretty penny as well as being a resource to be conservative with.)

Just as it’s not fair that the Big Box grocery and sundries store consumer quibbles every day (driving in the spanking shiny gas guzzler) in the fast food aisle over the price of this or that and voices the opinion that the Arctic Wildlife Refuge should be opened up to the greed and non-stewardship of those that merely want to plunder the riches and move on.

25 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

Let me say that I am just THRILLED that Sarah visited Ground Zero and that she thinks every American student needs to go there. Can I just say,

“WHAT ABOUT YOUR OWN STATE, SARAH? WHAT ABOUT THE BUSH? WHY AREN’T THE KIDS ON THE ROAD SYSTEM VISITING RURAL ALASKA AND SEEING HOW THE OTHER PART OF THE STATE LIVES? BETTER YET, WHY AREN’T YOU COMING OUT HERE AND SEEING HOW YOUR STATE LIVES?”

This woman and her stupid answers are making me crazy!

25 09 2008
scottish-mud-fan

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (13:39:06)

“Even thought the topic is foreign affairs, there will be ample opportunity to address our current economy.”

Thanks! That’s encouraging. I have to admit that I have only ever seen extracts of presidential debates before. Like many others over the world, this election has an unrivalled fascination for me and I shall be pouring over the details and hopefully reading some live blogging here.

25 09 2008
Chin Trout Palin (NJ)

I spent 2 wks in Alaska back in 96– I have incredible memories of Anchorage, Fairbanks, Ketchikan, Juneau– the natural beauty of the landscapes and memories of wonderful people– The Muffin story gave me reason to reminisce.

btw, Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I Were Trout), I’d be happy to share my “trout” name w/ you!

25 09 2008
Anonymous

Off-Topic: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/25/16545/2914/720/608457

Excellent link for those seeking seeringly saucy slogans against McPalin.

25 09 2008
Lulu

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/25/16545/2914/720/608457

See link above for acerbic and accurate takes on McCain/Palin yard signs.

25 09 2008
C from CO

Back to the thread — Thank you AKM and Shannyn for the excellent, though difficult to read post. I can understand hunting for food, (well kind of), but this aerial slaughter of wolves is cruel and inhumane. I believe there is something missing from the soul of a person who could kill another living creature in such a cavalier way.

25 09 2008
A Brit abroad aka Flag Cobra

Completely OT, but it’s nearly midnight over here and I’m struggling through editing a home-made translation of a thesis summary… it’s just Palinesque: “I explain the circumstances on the one hand on the overall development that people undergo, which partly have as a result that we build limits between ourselves and others.”

Give me strength, I’ve got 3,500 words of it. I’m tempted to say maybe you’re lucky you’re only getting Palinese soundbites and teleprompted speeches (I should also point out that the non-translated version of this thesis is very articulate, to be fair).

25 09 2008
galwhohashadenough!

@ ERIN–The one I was going to use on my sign for when SWWNBN came through Denver was this. However, she canceled her luncheon.:

Lipstick covers lips-NOT lies.

Sent via my AT&T Blackberry that John McCain invented.
Slap Spear Palin

25 09 2008
Sam aka Blaster Commando Palin

ERIN – I like #2: TELL THE TRUTH, SARAH

It’s straight to the point and kinda catchy🙂

25 09 2008
mvngfwd

I just go this email….bad idea to piss off moms!

Dear MomsRising.org Member,

Yesterday, MomsRising.org members tried to deliver our letter–signed by over 21,000 people–to Governor Sarah Palin’s office in Washington, D.C. The letter simply asked, “Where do you stand?” on key issues of importance to moms and families.

But, we were turned away at the door.

When pressed, Palin’s staff told the group to drop the letter in the mail, refusing to acknowledge the crowd of moms (and adorable baby) who were in the office to hand deliver it.

Snail mail can take a while, and we want to make sure that this election covers more than moose burgers and body surfing. All candidates–male, female, Democrat, Republican, and other–should speak to these issues. Some are, and others aren’t (1). So, we’re bringing our questions to the next level: getting our questions front and center in the Vice Presidential Debate on October 2nd.

Email PBS Senior Correspondent Gwen Ifill, who will be moderating the debate, to tell her you want these important questions asked: http://www.momsrising.org/VPDebateQuestions

The MomsRising.org team has written five questions we’d like to see posed to both Palin and Biden in that debate (see the questions below (2)). Let’s get these questions to the debate moderator so the American public gets a chance to hear both candidates, side-by-side, answering the same questions.

When you click the link above, you’ll send a message to Gwen Ifill and cc both of the presidential campaigns to let them know that over 21,000 voters want to hear them talk about these issues (which impact millions of Americans) at the debate.

Tell your friends to email Gwen Ifill, too! She needs to know how deeply important these issues are for millions of Americans–and that we demand they be addressed now!

Thank you!

–Kristin, Joan, Mary, Katie, Laura, Roz, Ashley, and the entire MomsRising.org Team

25 09 2008
Regi

Good luck MomRising !! But remember, by very definition Conservatives don’t care about the issues of individuals. So now pull yourself up by your bra straps and solve these things yourself ! Who do you think you are? Starving CEO’s or something?

25 09 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Chin Trout Palin (NJ) (13:50:43) :

Humble bows of gratitude!

25 09 2008
ds55

//Nataraj Hauser (13:28:55) : Thought you might want to know: National Enquirer published a story today about Sarah Palin having an affair with Todd’s ex-business partner.//

Photo and info on Brad Hanson:
http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/jnail/blog/&blogId=3623

25 09 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin

You know… after the moose and the wolf hunting, and watching “Fast Food Nation” and reading “The Jungle” — with the missing parts intact this time– all of this within the last week— my inner vegetarian is coming out, and I used to pity vegetarians. So SWMNBN, you got me darlin’ — it will be a long time before this “Beef State” Husker has any meat again. Something good had to come of this debacle, although I didn’t think it would be this personal.

25 09 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Arghhhhh! CNN watch. Big freaking surprise the house Repubs are holding things up! With McCain as their shill! The freaking kicker they won’t say what it is that they want changed to the core ideas already worked out!

I am so damn tired of this. I am sorry in my book John McCain is behind this and he is the problem! This is just a political game to that man. He does not care about country first! Once again it is his campaign first!

I am sorry but this is just sending me around the bend!

The people working on this for 7 days should just kick his ass back to the Circular Talk Express!

25 09 2008
Regi

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin (14:13:29) :

You know… after the moose and the wolf hunting, and watching “Fast Food Nation” and reading “The Jungle” — with the missing parts intact this time– all of this within the last week— my inner vegetarian is coming out, and I used to pity vegetarians. So SWMNBN, you got me darlin’ — it will be a long time before this “Beef State” Husker has any meat again. Something good had to come of this debacle, although I didn’t think it would be this personal.

Wait until you read The Omnivore’s Dilemma and In Defense of Food. You wan’t eat corn either.

25 09 2008
White Agate

Checking in…so good to see the reality-based discussions going on here…

…we have wolves here in northern MN and they are doing well. With reasonable management they have come back to perform their role well as apex predators in the Great North Woods of this state. Can’t we all just get along?

My latest is McCain’s potential health issues. I first noticed it today in photos, but I have been speculating for a while that his erratic behavior might be indicative of some health issues, either emerging or re-emerging. It will be interesting to see if more becomes obvious over the next few days, as obviously this would have a major campaign impact.

http://buzzfeed.com/scott/mccains-left-eye

Oh, and also, Sarah Palin has her own corn maze in OH. Yoikes!

http://buzzfeed.com/rchemel/sarah-palin-corn-maze-4c

25 09 2008
otisNYC

One can go to this link and donate to enable Defenders of Wildlife to air an ad during the VP debate…takes two seconds.

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Donation2?idb=0&df_id=1547&1547.donation=form1&autologin=true&s_src=6JY08WDC4F&s_subsrc=6JY08WDC4F_EJI08D4a&JServSessionIdr001=gwjj13xl31.app23a

25 09 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

Regi (14:15:15) :

Wait until you read The Omnivore’s Dilemma and In Defense of Food. You won’t eat corn either.

———————————————————————-

I’m laughing so hard I can’t stand it! Daughter # 1 got me those and you are absolutely right! Water’s not safe, food’s not safe… We truly have become what we always hoped to elevate–third world nation!

25 09 2008
Michele aka Mullet Troll Palin

Bobg:
AK Mudraker-where can we get the yellow boots lapel pins? Just think-all of our friends will ask us what the yellow boots mean. What an opening to tell them about the Dragon lady.
There was a place in Juneau–Wm. Spears Design–that made great enamel pins. Maybe they can do a yellow-boots lapel pin! I love this blog! Thanks for all that you do.

25 09 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin

Son just bought me “Diet for a new America” Wine, I am going to live on wine.

25 09 2008
phoebe

Huffington Post….” A Day of Political Theatre”

I guess no one is willing to say that, “The Emperor Has No Clothes”.

25 09 2008
Lulu

OT – Re: McCain’s health @ White Agate. I share your concern for his health; if I were one of his kids, I would have had a Health Intervention by now.

Some blogs on that Buzzfeed Link are saying it could be Bell’s Palsy. I had that once and it paralyzed the whole side of my mouth, too. I couldn’t eat in public because it was so hard to do. I had trouble talking during that time. And my eye didn’t droop like that; instead, it had to be patched shut at night, because it wouldn’t close.

Other blogs are speculating a minor stroke. I wouldn’t think he would have been able to be on Katie Couric if that was going on…But I hope we’ll learn the truth soon–way before Nov. 4.

25 09 2008
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)

phoebe (14:26:23) :

…all together, now….nice and loud…..

THE EMPEROR HAD NO CLOTHES😉

25 09 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin

McCain aide just credited McCain with brokering the deal, the debate will go on?! What utter BS

25 09 2008
mvngfwd

On a side note- http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=channel_changer_08 Nice article on Rachel Maddow

CNN just had Sen. Chris Dodd rips on McCain for taking 7 days of bipartisan work and making it into a campaign game. He said Obama was on point and very constructive. McCain was clueless and really didn’t add anything or make his position clear. Repubs are now trying to give McCain a bump on this. He ditched reporters and wouldn’t answer questions.

Oh and if the campaign is suspended, why am I seeing his ads in Florida? Liar, liar, pants on fire!

25 09 2008
Stanley Krute

I have a special interest in this. I rescue dogs from death row at my local county pound, and over the years I’ve had several shepherd/wolf hybrids. The wolf part of their nature is shy, smart, sweet, strong, and noble.

The thought of a bunch of otherwise-impotent spiritually-dead yayhoos shooting wolves from planes attacks my heart in a manner I can only describe by analogy with how Obi Wan Kenobi felt whenever Darth Vader blew up another planet.

Donate. Canvass. Vote. Blog. Network. Call. 40 more days to stop this evil b**ch.

The positive aspect of Pitlips Palin’s candidacy is that a whole bunch of us have discovered Mudflats. Thanks AKM for the excellence.

— stan

25 09 2008
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P.

Off Topic, kinda:

I think I love Katie Couric. She’s taking this opportunity to take out SWWNBN by asking simple questions, but in a serious way. And the Princess can’t answer them.

“I’ll try ta find ya some and I’ll bring ’em to ya”. Her answer to Couric when asked for specific examples of McLame’s accomplishments.

Also note* She now refers to him as “John McCain” or “Senator McCain” instead of just plain old “McCain”. Didja notice that turn?

Oh, and have you seen the one where she continues to say that because Russia is on a maritime border with Alaska, that she has foreign policy experience? Heck, you Alaskan’s must be so proud.

*ducks rotten tomatos*

25 09 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin

Re: his health… I am thinking a series of small strokes (TIA’s transient ischemic attacks) there is something wrong (medically) with his cognitive ability and the left droopy eye bothers me, although it looked “tighter” today. “Spose Sarah turned him on to the preparation H beauty queen thing to decrease swelling and droop?

25 09 2008
chicago

To Erin about your sign ideas…

I loved #4 !!!
Open, No
Transparent, Yes

It’s so witty that I bet Sarah probably wouldn’t even get it! Hope you guys have a great rally on sat. I really wish I could be there. Thanks for being so awesome Alaska!

25 09 2008
Erin

galwhohashadenough! (13:58:15) :

Love the “Lipstick covers lips, not lies” slogan. I might have to steal that one.🙂

25 09 2008
Wondering_Lake

Maybe we should all find a disgruntled Republican and give them a muffin. Yah, yah, I know, they need something stronger.

Is there a cocktail called muffin? No? Hmm. I’m a seasoned bartender…

Ok, how’s this:

The Chocolate Cinnamon Community Building Muffin Cocktail
1 oz. Vanilla Bean Vodka
.5 oz Cinnamon Schnapps
.5 oz Godiva Dark Chocolate Liqueur
3 oz Chocolate Milk
1 oz Eggnog
Top with nutmeg and cinnamon sprinkles

Shake, serve in milkshake glass over ice. Or, substitute chocolate ice cream instead of milk and blend like a frappe.

25 09 2008
Erin

Thanks, Chicago! I can’t say I thought of that slogan, because I actually saw it at the first rally and thought it was clever.

How about TIME OUT?

25 09 2008
habitual

Thank you otisNYC –

I just donated $40. That ad that explains the cruelty made me cry though….had to turn it off. She’s a monster.

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Donation2?idb=0&df_id=1547&1547.donation=form1&autologin=true&s_src=6JY08WDC4F&s_subsrc=6JY08WDC4F_EJI08D4a&JServSessionIdr001=gwjj13xl31.app23a

25 09 2008
Raingods

I can only hope people won’t be fooled by the angling the repubs will try and use on this. Just when I thought I couldn’t hate them anymore, they find new loads of cynicism in my heart.

25 09 2008
phoebe

Katie did a good job. People like Barbara Walters & Katie worked their butts off to get where they are and along comes Sister Sarah, who is being used by both repb & dem forces (bill clinton) …hey she’s hot. What is this… some kind of a Lecherous Old Man Conspiracy?

25 09 2008
Nebraska Native AKA Froth Moonshine Palin

Wondering Lake… I think those ingredients are on my alcohol only diet and it sounds wonderful!!

25 09 2008
chicago

My sign would say ” I can see healthcare but that doesn’t mean I have it”

I saw a couple slogans I liked on another site too, there were

Palin: FINALLY, a woman who’s not afraid to hate women

Go Palin! You’ll secede Alaska yet!
and also
McCain/Palin, Soulmates without souls

25 09 2008
Lori

I know I will have nightmares again tonight. Every since Palin’s nomination I’ve been averaging about 2 or 3 a week.

As to the wolves, I weep for these beautiful beings. Why do humans have so little love for creatures with a different face? For those that believe in a Supreme Being, did not that Being also create these beautiful and shy animals?

I have always felt drawn to wolves, all wildlife really, but wolves have always had a special place in my daily meditations. Not to get too New Age, but I have always felt my husband’s spirit animal was a wolf. Wolves kill it is true. So does man. The difference is that wolves kill to live, to eat, to exist. Humans kill for those reasons also. However, humans also kill for pleasure and do not always eat what they kill. Sometimes humans kill only for obtaining the pelt of the animal. It thus with the killing of wolves. I have never heard of anyone killing a wolf for its meat.

Wolves are being re-introduced into the western US and it is going well. However, the Bush Administration, at the urging of ranchers (many of these ranchers run their herds on public lands but that is another discussion altogether) and hunters, recently tried to remove the wolves from the Endangered Species list and allow them to be killed. Ranchers claim the wolves are poaching on their herds. Incredible studies are being done on methods, that do not involve killing the wolves, to assist ranchers with keeping the wolves away from the herds and property. The methods involve recordings of wolf calls. It is absolutely fascinating what they are learning about wolves. There was a documentary on Discovery (I think) on this and I have been looking for a link but have been unable to find it. If I find it, I will come back and post it.

Again, I weep for these sentient beings who are being slaughtered on behalf of this hollow, ambitious, mendacious, grasping woman named Sarah Palin. I do not want to live in this woman’s world.

“If we do not save all the creatures that are required for the natural chain, then all will fall and none will survive.” – Agricultural Outlook Forum

25 09 2008
Jim, Texas

Well, at least she’s protecting us from Putin.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/25/couricandco/entry4478088.shtml

25 09 2008
snowbelle

Aah, yes Wondering Lake!

But before we offer them up to any disgruntled Republicans, I think we’d better have a little taste-test….

25 09 2008
White Agate

Has anyone seen the Doonesbury series on Gov. Palin? My husband checked it out and it is truly hilarious…’Sarah Palin Action Figure.’ AKM, I know you have seen this and loved it…if not, here it is!

I can’t decide if I’d want to be in a Gary Trudeau strip or not, it’s a compliment in its own way…

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20080925

Tab through, it started a few days ago.

Also, Slate covers another item today, how Bill Clinton needs to fish or cut bait in his support of Obama:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/09/24/why-bill-clinton-is-such-a-lousy-surrogate.aspx

25 09 2008
Anonymous

AKM
i don’t know what we’d do without you! Thank you for all you do!

In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell

25 09 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL

http://www.wsj.com/article/SB122178318884054675.html
Wall Street Journal exclusive.
AKM: Love your article on the wolves. They are beautiful
animals. Always wanted to own one.

25 09 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL

“Obama likely to keep debate as McCain seeks delay,” Associated Press, September 24, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=30384&id=14042-10502927-aBSFAYx&t=5

2. “The Candidates Vote ‘Present,'” Wall Street Journal, September 25, 2008
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122230374700773663.html

3. “McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate,” CNN Political Ticker, September 24, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=30385&id=14042-10502927-aBSFAYx&t=6

4.”Gimmicks ‘R’ Us,” Time Magazine Online, September 24, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=30386&id=14042-10502927-aBSFAYx&t=7

25 09 2008
anonymous

7-4-6. Flights Over Charted U.S. Wildlife Refuges, Parks, and Forest Service Areas

a. The landing of aircraft is prohibited on lands or waters administered by the National Park Service, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, or U.S. Forest Service without authorization from the respective agency. Exceptions include:

1. When forced to land due to an emergency beyond the control of the operator;

2. At officially designated landing sites; or

3. An approved official business of the Federal Government.

b. Pilots are requested to maintain a minimum altitude of 2,000 feet above the surface of the following: National Parks, Monuments, Seashores, Lakeshores, Recreation Areas and Scenic Riverways administered by the National Park Service, National Wildlife Refuges, Big Game Refuges, Game Ranges and Wildlife Ranges administered by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and Wilderness and Primitive areas administered by the U.S. Forest Service.

NOTE-
FAA Advisory Circular AC 91-36, Visual Flight Rules (VFR) Flight Near Noise-Sensitive Areas, defines the surface of a national park area (including parks, forests, primitive areas, wilderness areas, recreational areas, national seashores, national monuments, national lakeshores, and national wildlife refuge and range areas) as: the highest terrain within 2,000 feet laterally of the route of flight, or the upper-most rim of a canyon or valley.

c. Federal statutes prohibit certain types of flight activity and/or provide altitude restrictions over designated U.S. Wildlife Refuges, Parks, and Forest Service Areas.

d. Federal regulations also prohibit airdrops by parachute or other means of persons, cargo, or objects from aircraft on lands administered by the three agencies without authorization from the respective agency. Exceptions include:

1. Emergencies involving the safety of human life; or

2. Threat of serious property loss.

25 09 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL

If you find it useful, please take time to vote on the debate.
Thank you.

http://pol.moveon.org/demanddebate/?r_by=14042-10502927-aBSFAYx&rc=confemai

25 09 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

The first movie script I ever researched and wrote as a learning script had a Native American story line. I researched many different traditions of hunting and an animal sacredly sacrificing itself to sustain the tribe. I studied about spirit animals. If you know these spiritual teachings, Sarah Palin is being cosmically stalked by the Spirit of the Wolf. She is being called out from her tribe (the United States of American) on every spiritual state inside her soul across the board. She has no spiritual insight to see what is happening to her. Every inner level of her being is being called out into revelation before the tribe. What is happening to her is as bloody and violent as those animals being hunted from airplanes. In her spiritual unawareness she has called this upon herself.

What has come upon her is the Spirit of the Wolf and she is completely unaware. And her Pastor Muthee is of no use in these matters.

The Spirit of the Wolf has come upon our nation on this strange voyage of The Pequod with John McCain as Ahab.

Awesome, awesome stuff!

25 09 2008
Wondering_Lake

Wanted to own one? Own a wolf? Seriously? LOL!

I truly hope that’s master snarkiness….

25 09 2008
Proud Community OrganizerWA

Deuce2: Thank you for the link I just signed the petition!

25 09 2008
Libbs

momsrising.org- May I share your site with the moms on http://www.opmom.com?

25 09 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL

Wondering_Lake (15:15:34) :

Wanted to own one? Own a wolf? Seriously? LOL!

I truly hope that’s master snarkiness
_______________________________________________________________________
I guess I chose that moment to make a comment that my mind
should not have let me. Lack of sleep and serious financial difficulties
have left me in a quandry. Please accept my apologies for making
such an ignorant statement. Sometimes I speak prior to thinking.
Would appreciate your forgiveness. DEUCE!

25 09 2008
futurexpat?

As one who has traveled in Alaska many times, this big game hunting infuriates me. It is just so incredibly unfair to hunt an animal down from the air. My husband and I go to see the animals and have always felt a sense of wonder seeing the bears, caribou, moose, etc., particularly the moose, which I fell in love with on my first trip up. Alaska is a majestic place and part of that majesty comes from the wildlife. My family are not hunters, but I have no real problem with subsistence hunting and fishing. There is nothing right about aerial hunting for any reason, particularly of a wolf.

Throwing science out the window is always a bad idea. It’s one of the reasons we are in so much of a mess today.

Andy AKA Plop Hero

25 09 2008
Wondering_Lake

Deuce2 aka:
You are 100% forgiven, and I do understand the strong desire to be near wolves.

It really did crack me up – it reminded me of an old bad punchline:
“I don’t hate women! I love women. Heck, I own two of them!”
😀

25 09 2008
Kiko

This is why I named my blog Helicopter Barbie.

25 09 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Palin

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (15:14:56) :
…She has no spiritual insight to see what is happening to her. Every inner level of her being is being called out into revelation before the tribe.

The Spirit of the Wolf has come upon our nation on this strange voyage of The Pequod with John McCain as Ahab.

Thank you for that, HamletsMill! You revived my spirit on two counts!

The creation and resurrection symbolized in the fearsome white whale… (bailout-baleine!). Its hunt was an unlucky move for Ahab.

‘The Spirit of the Wolf has come.’ I reached for Animal–Speak by Ted Andrews…

“The ritualistic behaviors that establish the wolf ranks are part of its magic. Wolf packs are not entirely autocratic –– under the supreme rule of the alpha member. Neither are they democratic. There are times when both occur, and it is this flexibility which adds to the success of the wolf government. Wolf can teach the lesson of proper governorship –– a balance between authority and democracy. Wolf can teach you how to use ritual to establish order and harmony within your own life. Wolf helps us to understand that true freedom requires discipline.”

How interesting that a wolf can teach us about proper governorship!
And the discipline of freedom.

25 09 2008
I.R. Writer

Somebody please get Shannyn Moore an editor !

25 09 2008
Sasha in MN

Thank you for this well written and informative piece.

As a wolf & wildlife conservationist for over a decade and volunteer for International Wolf Center, I appreciate the time and reflections invested in your article that so many can benefit from..
All the years going up to the northern woods of Minnesota, the BWCA and Superior National Forest and having the fortune of being in the rare company of wolves at times, I had realized I took these gifts for granted and got involved 15 years ago.

My main issue with the aerial wolf hunts is that it is unethical and a costly, unnecessary way to deal with the tricky dichotomy of humans & wolves, I could go on but I do not want to monopolize the comments thread.

For those in the lower 48, Alaska and everywhere else, there is an amazing blog by Ralph Maughan out in Idaho (Dr. Ralph Maughan is a specialist in natural resource and environmental policies and politics), he is also the current President of the Wolf Recovery Foundation. He provides a stunning history of the wolves from reintroduction, wildlife news from all over our country and world and some heated political issues.
http://wolves.wordpress.com/

PS Kudos also to the wonderful and amazing Dorothy Keeler and her husband Leo. They are remarkable friends and supporters of wolves and wildlife and so many have enjoyed their photography over at care2 and all over the worldwide web.
http://www.akwildlife.com/index.html and http://www.savetoklatwolf.com/

25 09 2008
Susan, Lower 48 (TN)

AKM, I sure have a special place in my heart for fine individuals who know themselves so well as to know when to let someone else do the talking. And, wow, what a guest voice you brought to us. THANKS.

And over on dkos this evening, Palin and Moose: “Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, avid helicopter hunter and lifetime NRA member, has opposed native subsistence rights ever since she came into office. Tuesday, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said ‘Thanks but no thanks’ to her ongoing efforts to ban indigenous moose harvest.”… [apologies for lack of block quote]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/25/163959/370

Didn’t think I saw this posted yet; apologies if I overlooked it. Folks who found the guest blog valuable might also want to go listen in to the kos conversations too.

Here’s to harmony among humans and other animals.

25 09 2008
Never Cry Wolf

What books has she read?

25 09 2008
lastfrontier

Excellent posting. Do like I have done and donate to:

http://www.defendersactionfund.org/

25 09 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL

Wondering_Lake (16:17:48) :

Deuce2 aka:
You are 100% forgiven, and I do understand the strong desire to be near wolves.
_______________________________________________________________________
Thanks, Was that Rodney Dangerfield? Whether it was or not
great punchline.

25 09 2008
Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL

Susan, Lower 48 (TN) (17:05:35)
Thank you so much for the link. I was born and raised in WV (I know
you all want to say it, but please don’t. I’ve heard them all) and
I have never hunted an animal in my life. I don’t even like fishing.
After seeing those poor animals being slaughtered as they were,
I must say that SP and the people that see something in her are
very, very, sick individuals. I am behind all of the Alaskan people
that want to rid themselves of such trashy people. DEUCE!

25 09 2008
mary (will provide my Palin name later)

Just chiming in to thank you for your excellent blog. I linked to this post on mine. Keep up the good work!

btw, My Uncle was a game warden in New England. He hunted and fished, as do my cousins. Nothing wrong with that. But aerial hunting, killing predators in order to increase game herds – these things are so wrong and cruel! I began to watch the video, but couldn’t continue. It’s horrible.

25 09 2008
Susan, Lower 48 (TN)

Pretty synergetic postings, eh? Maybe the spirit is stirring in a very positive way these days.

Yours optimistically in spite of lots of evidence to the contrary,

25 09 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

“Man” will not be happy until he is the only predator left in the world. Not all ranchers feel this way, but it does seem the majority do. A good friend of our had a large ranch in grizzley territory – he accepted the fact that he would probably lose a calf or two every year to the bears, but to discourage the omnivores, when one of his cattle died from whatever cause, he buried it so as not to attract the bears. He was quite the smart rancher and accepted that like any business, he could not eradicate all risks by fighting nature. He just worked the losses into his business plan.

Another rancher friend was the opposite. The son of an old pioneer rancher from the 1930’s, he held the antiquated view of “us verus them” when it came to other species. If a horse died, he would bear-bait (highly illegal), then kill any grizzlies that came around attracted by the smell of the rotting carcus. Kill a grizzly when cattle were just (at the time) about $350 a head – a species that will never die off because we need them for food. this is an old and uneducated way of thinking. These people have not the right to destroy “our” wildlife – it is selfish, useless and borders on perversion and cruelty for the sake of cruelty. The basest of our species decimating the strongest of the other species. I lived with these types for over 2 decades and, with rare exception,

25 09 2008
SMR

@mvngfwd: Andrew Sullivan’s daily dish has something going where he’s asking readers to let him know if they see an ad during mclame’s “suspended” campaign. Go to his site & let him know! He’s calling them out about it!

25 09 2008
Regi

phoebe (14:46:36) :

Katie did a good job. People like Barbara Walters & Katie worked their butts off to get where they are and along comes Sister Sarah, who is being used by both repb & dem forces (bill clinton) …hey she’s hot. What is this… some kind of a Lecherous Old Man Conspiracy?

A bunch of soft, arrogant, overgrown frat boys playing tin gods with the USA. And half the population are putty in their over manicured hands. Their wet dream is to have a desperate, destitute population who’ll jump at the chance to join the military, prostititute themselves for them. Really read The Handmaid’s Tale, it’s the playbook for these soulless losers.

25 09 2008
NMJ

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (15:14:56) : …Sarah Palin is being cosmically stalked by the Spirit of the Wolf.

Thank you, Hamlets, that was beautiful!

25 09 2008
Emerald

I’m from Texas and about as far as I can get from Alaska without leaving the country or crossing water. We don’t have wolves here (we did once upon a time) and there are times of year when deer hunting is an absolute necessity because they will literally eat themselves into starvation for lack of predation. I know the importance of wolves and what happens to an enviroment with out them.

We also have Hogs down here. The state record is 800+lbs, and these things are mean as hell and twince as dangerous. They have no fear of people and will be happy to gore you with their six inch tusks. Furthermore, they are an introduced and invasive species. They tear up hundreds of thousands of dollors in crops and kill livestock and native species. You don’t need a license to hunt them and there is no limit on how many you can kill. But no one has ever suggested aerial hunts. They are trapped, tracked, shot, and baited. But the favored method is a couple of tough dogs and a bowie knife.

Shooting wolves from a plane is a cowards “sport,” and I use that term very losely.

25 09 2008
A Nana from Alaska

Just look at some of the facts about Obama’s and Biden’s environmental record.

The League of Conservation Voters gives Obama’s a score of 96 and Biden an 84.

McCain has earned a pitiful 26. And Palin is worse than McCain (or worse than McCain used to be before he picked Palin as a running mate and started chanting “Drill, baby, drill”).

How about? “A Cheney in lipstick is still a Cheney!!”

25 09 2008
dhconcerts

Thanks for keeping us informed on the true stories from Alaska.

25 09 2008
Smitty

Defenders of Wildlife has two separate entities. One is the organization that lobbies for legislation protecting wildlife and habitat. It is a great organization for the long haul. Their website is defenders.org

The other entity is the 527 political action arm of Defenders of Wildlife and this is the organization we need to fund NOW to make a difference.

defendersactionfund.org needs your contributions. Next week we hope to air ads in PA & VA. We are on target in OH, FL, MI and CO.

I am an activist that works for BOTH organizations and we appreciate all contributions, but for the next 35 days give to the actionfund, then afterwards continue to contribute to defenders.org.

I wanted to say that since several posts referred to defenders.org.

Thanks everyone, especially AKM and Shannyn! Now that I have all that info, especially about the members of the Fish & Game, the op-ed letters will get generated.

The people on the Fish and Game appointed by Palin are as qualified as “Brownie” was for FEMA, only far more sinister.

25 09 2008
skystone

Sarah Palin makes me wonder and worry. Not only about our nation, but about what is happening in Alaska. When I was in my early teens my father was stationed in Alaska. As was his custom, he embraced the local culture and we, his 5 daughters, were taken along for the education. We spent summers in a cabin on a lake, learning to chop wood for the woodstove, catching fish for supper, pumping water at the well and hauling it to the cabin, and taking a drive in the truck to the dump to drop off the trash and watch the bears. I remember berry picking and singing and making noise “to scare off the bears” we were told. Most of all I remember (and this was in 1962 – 1965) northern lights, the sounds of the wolves calling, the fact the moon was soooo huge in the dark sky, ice fog, moose lying in the yard, the taste of caribou sausage and moose burgers, and empty expanses of the wild, untamed and beautiful countryside. This is what makes Alaska special, not oil and definitely not some vengeful woman who is like a neighbor who turns you in to the homeowners association because you did not trim your lawn well enough, or your kids are too loud, or not of her brand of religion. Now, it seems that Alaska is like living in Texas where we (of the Democrat persuasion) sometimes feel like we need to whisper about our affiliation and our liberal leanings. 10 years ago, I said ‘NO MORE!’ and I am am loud and proud Democrat and I am not afraid. I hope Alaskans can stand up and say … no, we love our state and the beauty of our state, and we will protect if from those who want to ruin it. Please don’t “drill baby drill” save the wild life and the wild. I would rather live through another 1964 earthquake than see Alaska become a corporate sanitized place. Alaskans, I beg of you, save America. If we have to take George Bush back here in Texas, can you at least take Sarah Palin back, and just keep her quiet?

25 09 2008
alaskanexposure

Here is a link to Alaska wildlife biologist Dr. Steven Stringham’s work which documents why aerial hunting of wolves is junk science:
http://www.bear-viewing-in-alaska.info/Sarah_Palin_v_predators.html

More info on wolves can also be found on my website at:
http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm

I’ll cut and paste one aspect of the debate I have not seen discussed – the outrageous cost of air charters which the government is paying when game and fish employees shoot bears and wolves from the air.

THE ALASKAN GOVERNMENT SPENDS MILLIONS ON AIR CHARTERS TO SHOOT WOLVES

“Sarah Palin claims that aerial hunting is necessary to help poor Alaskans who need to hunt moose for food. But it costs $500/hr. to charter a bush plane, and more than double that to charter a helicopter. Let’s do the math – with over 800 wolves killed to date by aerial shooting, with an average of four hours to kill them (a very low estimate), times $500/hr. to charter a plane (another low estimate, since helicopters cost more), that’s at least $1.6 MILLION dollars spent on air travel to kill wolves! Wouldn’t it be easier to spend that money giving the poor food vouchers? Add the nearly half a million dollars that Palin spent to “educate” Alaskans about aerial hunting, and you could probably feed the whole state. I think it’s obvious that aerial hunting of wolves is not about helping to feed the poor.”

25 09 2008
alaskanexposure

I’m glad you finally discussed this issue on your blog, but I’m confused why you felt the need to get an “Alaskan” opinion on this topic in particular. I am an Alaskan resident not “from” here as well, and it seems to me your opinions on ALL issues run counter to a typical “Alaskan” perspective. I guess I feel your preferential treatment of the topic is a bit indicative of how this issue is marginalized in general. Speak out loud and proud about advocating for wildlife, it is no different than advocating to stop corruption in government or witch doctors in the White House. The fact that killing animals for fun is a normalized behavior for Alaskans says a lot about this culture – which you so eloquently write about every day. Alaskans voted against aerial shooting twice -which also speaks to how this especially egregious act of wildlife slaughter isn’t sanctioned by even life time Alaskans who grow up huntin’ and trappin’. I’ve enjoyed your blog greatly, but was dissapointed to not see you take a more direct stand, as an Alaskan, against killing animals for pleasure. I don’t think you have to grow up torturing animals and selling their skins to have a valid opinion about wildlife in this state as an Alaskan resident.

25 09 2008
alaskanexposure

Two great links for more info on aerial hunting of wolves and bears (bears get left out a lot, but they are also targeted under predator control).

Steve Stringham is an Alaskan wildlife biologist with many published articles on why Predator control in AK is junk science:
http://www.bear-viewing-in-alaska.info/Sarah_Palin_v_predators.html

My website also details the wildlife atrocities in this state:
http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm

(I hope this is not a double posting, I submitted and did not see it post…)

25 09 2008
alaskanexposure

THE ALASKAN GOVERNMENT SPENDS MILLIONS ON AIR CHARTERS TO SHOOT WOLVES

Sarah Palin claims that aerial hunting is necessary to help poor Alaskans who need to hunt moose for food. But it costs $500/hr. to charter a bush plane, and more than double that to charter a helicopter. Let’s do the math – with over 800 wolves killed to date by aerial shooting, with an average of four hours to kill them (a very low estimate), times $500/hr. to charter a plane (another low estimate, since helicopters cost more), that’s at least $1.6 MILLION dollars spent on air travel to kill wolves! Wouldn’t it be easier to spend that money giving the poor food vouchers? Add the nearly half a million dollars that Palin spent to “educate” Alaskans about aerial hunting, and you could probably feed the whole state. I think it’s obvious that aerial hunting of wolves is not about helping to feed the poor.

26 09 2008
DingoDave

It is as cruel as it is unecessary.
With all the oil revenues flowing into Alaska, there is absolutly no need to conduct such practices for personal gain.
Alaska can comfortably afford to conserve one of the most pristine ecosystems in North America because of it’s oil wealth.
Don’t blow it America.

26 09 2008
DingoDave

I don’t think even ‘Miss Teen Carolina’ would have approved of shooting wolves out of a plane with a shotgun.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII

26 09 2008
Anonymous

the problem here is that Palin is probably not as bad of a person as we’ve all made her out to be. It all could have been easily corected earlier on, had the McCain camp not hid her out from the press and the rest of the world.

They used her and “in a minute” they are going to throw her away.

It’s sad that she will be returning home alone to face her fellow Alaskans in shame of what she let McCain do to her…. in addition to facing a lapload of legal problems.

Even those in congress already “on both sides” admit they would not turn down opportunity to run for VP, if asked. Had I been Palin’s shoes, I wuold have accepted the offer as well.

I want Obama to win … but I fell sorry for Sarah Palin.

26 09 2008
Namae wa.. Heta.

[…] Aihe: net — yatski @ 2:43 pm On Palin and Wolves. […]

26 09 2008
Brigitte

Thank you for posting this.

26 09 2008
democommie

Feel sorry for Sarah Palin? Not hardly. Like JohnnyPOW, she is just being shown for the nasty piece of work that she is.

26 09 2008
Cheryl

I grew up in rural Pennsylvania, daughter of a coal-miner and factory worker. Mom and Dad jointly hunted deer and squirrel… both of which we ate. We did this because we were poor and the meat supplemented our otherwise meager food supply. Hunting for ‘sport’ is an idea that is repulsive to me and I don’t understand why anyone would want to kill something when they do not need the food. (I’d like to add that I am educated, but I do not consider myself an elitist. My education came from going into the Army directly out of high-school and then reading anything I could wrap my fingers around. No college, but I sure wish I’d had the chance! What a load to try to label the educated as elitist!) I now live in Chicago and work like a sled-dog for a company in the Sears Tower. Reading this post, I cannot be thankful enough when I reflect on how fortunate I am to be able to afford to buy food and that I don’t have to eat an animal I had to kill (and I actually try to limit my meat intake each week because I despise corporate farming).

26 09 2008
Pacificnwgal

Because Americans have this competitive “us against them” mentality, as opposed to cooperative, we think that it is just fine to take over and kill anything we want to in order to get ahead. Manifest Destiny and all that. This issue of the wolves is just another example of this line of thinking. One person just told me the other day that they heard that scientists say that if there were no humans on earth, wolves would take over the earth. Whaaaaaat? Even if this were true, so what and what does this have to do with anything? Hunting for survival is one thing. But, hunting to DESTROY the creatures of the earth because you want to have some fun, is criminal and just plain sinful. I just don’t see how any religious or humanist individual can see it differently.

26 09 2008
Vanessa

I lived in Alaska for a year in the far reaches of the north above the artic circle. At that time there was only one game warden for an area the size of Ohio and it was common place for individuals to run over wolves with their snow machines (ski doos, snowmobiles etc). Most often hunters would have a difficult time shooting them and they did not want to wreck the pelts so running them over was better sport and more practical. I think Wolves should be protected in areas where they have a chance to exist near a natural world unlike place like Montana where the pressures from Ranches, hunters and population constantly put wolves at risk. However due to the lack of concern and ignorance of the Alaskan people and the additional ignorance of the residence of the lower 48 no one cares about what is happening to wolves in Alaska. We can spend millions of dollars on wolves to eak out a living being killed by hunters and ranchers in Montana but no one give a rats ass that they are being exterminated in the most disgusting ways in a place like Alaska where at least they have a chance to exist.

26 09 2008
26 09 2008
Anonymous

I also grew up the daughter of a hunter. My brother and dad both hunted, as did my grandfather and uncles. My brother has since given up hunting with a gun, and like the author, prefers a camera.

In our world, we had it drilled into our heads that if you chose to hunt, you had better utilize every part of the animal; the meat, the hide, all of it. You respected that which gave it’s life for you. You also respected the fact their ancestors were there long before yours were, so get over yourself and live with them or leave. One of my chores was to check the fences to make sure the old black bear who frequented our orchard hadn’t trashed them.

We were disgusted by what my dad referred to as “the mighty white hunters” who just hunted for the trophy and the rush of the kill. I still am.

26 09 2008
Fiona

I also grew up the daughter of a hunter. My brother and dad both hunted, as did my grandfather and uncles. My brother has since given up hunting with a gun, and like the author, prefers a camera.

In our world, we had it drilled into our heads that if you chose to hunt, you had better utilize every part of the animal; the meat, the hide, all of it. You respected that which gave it’s life for you. You also respected the fact their ancestors were there long before yours were, so get over yourself and live with them or leave. One of my chores was to check the fences to make sure the old black bear who frequented our orchard hadn’t trashed them.

We were disgusted by what my dad referred to as “the mighty white hunters” who just hunted for the trophy and the rush of the kill. I still am.

26 09 2008
Fiona

Sorry about the double post, duh….

26 09 2008
MJC

Hey Guys We have a new Mudflats Home! Check out the new thread. See ya’ll there!

26 09 2008
Sean

for those that had a hard time reading Shannyn Moore’s, “Wolf in Governor’s Clothing”…She has apparently taken the comments to heart. She reposted, using regular type and page breaks!

http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/wolf-in-governors-clothing/

26 09 2008
akmuckraker

Comments are now closed. This post exists on the new Mudflats blog site with open comments. Come on over!

http://www.themudflats.net




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