How to Get Promoted in PalinWorld.

9 09 2008

Immediately after Palin was selected as John McCain’s running mate, the campaign began singing her praises about ‘executive experience’, and also her experience as “commander-in-chief” of the Alaska National Guard. VoteVets reminds us what happened next.

But the reality of the situation–that Palin actually had little to do with the National Guard quickly became apparent. In fact, the idea was undercut severely by comments made by the actual commander of the Alaska National Guard–its Adjutant General, Major General Craig Campbell. When that happened, it eventually turned into somewhat of a national joke, culminating in the humiliation of McCain/Palin campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds on CNN when he tried to promote Palin’s “foreign policy” experience during the Republican National Convention.

But suddenly–and strangely–the commander of the Alaska National Guard, Major General Campbell, changed his story. By the end of the convention, he was praising Palin’s experience, talking on TV about how she had taken control of Alaska’s National Guard operations and how she was a “great” leader.

(**Mudflats Warning – Get your toothbrush ready. This one’s going to make your teeth hurt.)

Interestingly enough, Palin promoted him with his third star–to the rank of Lieutenant General–only three days later.

Essentially, Campbell had been unhelpful to the campaign at the very least. But all of a sudden he became one of Palin’s biggest supporters. And he was then promoted to be one of the two highest-ranking state National Guard officials in the country.

Up until now, we’ve only gotten lessons in how to get fired in Palin’s world. But now, it seems, we know what it takes to move ahead.


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9 09 2008
enigma4ever

wow…another great find…amazing how she is taking care of her state…cough.

9 09 2008
RedwoodMan

You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours…

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

so they are just up there buying off people?
i guess the employees figure when SP comes home on nov. 5th, they’ll be in the company of one seething, vindictive governor….

9 09 2008
jackie

pardon me…I have to go puke.

9 09 2008
Elwood

Ugh…that’s just…ugh. I’m really dreading the future (or lack thereof) of this country if McCain/Palin wins the election.

We’re doomed.

9 09 2008
9 09 2008
Keystone

View from Alaska:

*ttp://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/09/09/alaska-palin-republican-oped-cx_mc_0909carey.html

(replace * with h)

9 09 2008
BlueFranco

I hope the Alaskan papers pick up this story and show McPALIN for what they are TYPICAL lying reTHUGlican CROOKS who will do anything to win. When McPALIN loses which they will, I wonder how this Nat guardsman will feel that he will be known as a hack and LIAR

9 09 2008
We are screwed

Wow…. She is incredible at quelling critics…. This is amazing.

9 09 2008
Edie

See Andrew Halco’s page for additional information on this. It includes email indicating that there would be no more promotions …. this action contradicts what just took place http://www.andrewhalcro.com/a_filtered_letter_to_the_governor

9 09 2008
Blue Idaho

Clearly you must insert your head entirely up her ass.

And smile while you do it.
AKMuckraker

9 09 2008
Brian

I guess some of that Fannie Mae bailout money is on its way to Alaska. Of course this isn’t an earmark, just bribing those that roll over for her. So much for all these rugged men the History Channel keeps showing us who are individualists. A little pressure from Washington and they fold like a trophy moose.

What’s amazing is that adding Palin has brought McCain into a dead heat with Obama. When you control the public purse all things are possible.

Btw, found this up and coming website called Electoral-Vote that is tracking all the polls. Very good site for up to date information on the election.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

9 09 2008
Glenn

So McPain just pulled out of a Larry King interview claiming the CNN/Tucker Bounds interview ‘over the line.’

Having watched the interview in its entirety, I simply cannot see how a direct request for examples of foreign policy or executive command leadership is ‘over the line.’ Tucker made claims, and then would not back up those claims with examples. His reply? Paraphrased, that essentially any decision Palin would have made surely outweighs any Obama has made in a similar capacity.

How old are we here?

Why, why, why is it that we cannot become more familiar with Sarah Palin via concrete evidence of her political experience freely provided by the Mccain campaign?

Never have I seen a Republican ticket insult the intelligence (and take advantage of the lack of intelligence) of the voting public as this election.

Frankly, I am not sure I will make through this election.

9 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

All you Alaskans – except for fires, how often are the National Guard members “called out”? Because in most states, that isn’t happening except in emergencies.

So is it true that the Governor of a state deals with the day-to-day movements and activities of the Guard? I always thought the Military did that.

When Campbell Brown said that the Pentagon directed that, the McCain spokesman said nothing in rebuttal.

9 09 2008
Phil

Thank God for Campbell Brown!!! I love that clip!!! I’ve seen the whole clip on YouTube several times.

I am really getting concerned today! It seems like Obama is off his game lately. I saw him on Countdown with Keith Olbermann last night, and he was stumbling through his answers and he just didn’t seem to have that ooomph that he’s had all along. Same with Biden and Hillary yesterday. Hillary looked like she was out there yesterday just out of obligation. It certainly wasn’t the fired up Hillary we saw during her campaign. I really think Obama and Biden need to take a different approach. As i’ve said before, Obama has taken the high road much to his credit, but it’s obvious that when your opponents have you down in the mud and the mudballs keep flying at you, you’ve got to throw bigger and faster mudballs back just for survival and victory.

Maybe all their truthful talk about the economy really is just preaching to the choir. I think they really need to start playing defense in this game. Expose McCain and Palin with sarcasm and don’t be afraid to get down in the mud!!!

9 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

I should add – my older brother was in the National Guard during Vietnam.

9 09 2008
sauer kraut

Is it just my way of thinking or is it tres unseemly for a command officer to have that much shit stuck to his nose? I dunno but wouldn’t a general have too much self-esteem to NOT stick his nose up a civilian’s butt hole?

Where does the Department of Defense stand on this specific matter? Do they care at all about the integrity of the armed forces, even the national guard? And isn’t there a prohibition about current-duty personnel getting involved in truly political matters?

9 09 2008
jaya pai

you foolish americans why don’t you people , instead, of seething and fuming here on mudflats,, which majority of people don’t know,, post all the articles from here on Huffington Post ,,you will have a much larger audience. wake up people,, what happened to the scandal of her extra maritial affair,, did that all go under the carpet..what happened to baby Trig,,is he hers or Sadie’s,,

9 09 2008
judi

She will perform no meaningful tasks in a McCain administration. She’ll fly to funerals on Air Force Two (assuming she doesn’t sell it on eBay and get around in a single engine Bush plane – just to keep up the image). On really slow afternoons she’ll play cribbage in her office with her chief of staff. McCain will name her perhaps his Special Liaison to the Evangelical Community or his Blue Ribbon Coordinator with the Caribou, or to some other function he doesn’t want to bother his real staff with, doesn’t care about, and doesn’t want to know about. They’ll have a (very) brief breakfast once a month and share pleasantries and croissants.
For more of the editorial by Don Douglas of the Juneau Empire –“My Turn: Palin qualified Dan Quale Style”, go to
http://www.juneauempire.com/opi_329827428.shtml

9 09 2008
sauer kraut

Laughing – re your 10:34 comment, perhaps that’s why the entire state is so silent. If McCain wins, then they win. They get rid of the wicked witch of the west!!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

judi-
someone said it here before…
mcsame will need a food taster

9 09 2008
9 09 2008
Regi

Shoot, why didn’t McCain just pick Jesse Ventura.

9 09 2008
Doug Sharp

Palin is full of Pitbullshit!

9 09 2008
joan

Who’d have thought a three star (did I get that right?!) general could be transformed into such a boot-licking toady!

9 09 2008
Adnilasor

Wow, I am very concerned that McCain/Palin will actually make it to the White House. With McCain’s top investors being attorneys, securites/investment firms and real estate firms they are not hurting for money. I read in the New York Times that since Obama decided to bypass public financing, they are hard pressed for donations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/us/politics/09donate.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

Gross. What a disgrace, all of them.

Make Tucker enlist and send his dumb ass to Eye-Rack. There are more guns floating around in my city than in the entire Alaska Nat’l Guard — so should we make the leader of the 18th St. Crips Commander in Chief? For f**k’s sake.

Will the Obama camp at least make THIS part of their argument, or is it off-limits, too? Just hand the race over to McCain if you’re going to be such wussies about this crap. I’m fed up. Every time I read more about this, my blood starts to boil.

9 09 2008
sauer kraut

judi – I think you are wrong. She’s not just willing to be a wallflower. Based on her past political history – most of which is within just the past 10 years – she’ll waste no time in getting McCain out of the way. She is now in position to get the top spot in the country. If they get in, watch out. She’ll come up with all sorts of evidence of “high crimes and misdimeanors” by John McCain. You just watch and see.

It’s like Lyda Green says… Palin is a vindictive poopulist who will allow no person or law to stand in her way. If she is elected, women’s efforts during the past 100 years will go by the wayside. The brown shit ring around Craig Campbell’s nose is just the beginning.

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

sauer- scary. and then have even more power over them…

it doesn’t seem so good for alaska. i’ve met so many wonderful folks here, and now it looks like the Clampetts Go To Washington
they’ve gotta be thinkin they could send better reps to Dc….

9 09 2008
BigSlick

This assswipe Campbell is reading from a script.

9 09 2008
Regi

I wonder if he comprehends that sending the guardsmen to LA during a hurricane is not foreign policy experience. She could not have deployed them to Iraq.

9 09 2008
Melissa

Amazing that this guy is praising Palin for sending the Alaskan National Guard to Louisiana to help with the hurricane. What else would she have told Gov. Jindal… sorry, I have to keep them here to guard the moose??? Wow, what powerful decision-making skills. God help us all if this woman ends up in the White House.

9 09 2008
zorro

McCain’s got a team of “fixers” running around Alaska as we speak, putting out Palin brushfires.

9 09 2008
Raingods

I wouldn’t let Palin run a white castle, let alone the white house.

9 09 2008
judi

sauer kraut I agree with you..just passing along an opinion from the Juneau Empire…Saying she would be a Dan Quale vp is no compliment…wonder if she can spell potato?

9 09 2008
RW

Hi everyone,

I urge all of you to take your most compelling argument, and go to Google Blog search ( http://blogsearch.google.com/ ), and post your thoughts or important links on 5 other blogs.

By just hanging out here and having conversations here, you don’t get the word out.

This can be still be homebase. But… we need to get active, or we risk losing this election.

So go post everyone… and don’t forget to donate!

9 09 2008
Regi

sauer kraut (11:02:00) :

judi – I think you are wrong. She’s not just willing to be a wallflower. Based on her past political history – most of which is within just the past 10 years – she’ll waste no time in getting McCain out of the way. She is now in position to get the top spot in the country. If they get in, watch out. She’ll come up with all sorts of evidence of “high crimes and misdimeanors” by John McCain. You just watch and see.

I completely agree. She’s going to bat for him now to get to the VP then he better watch his back, once she’s in she’s going after his job. This is going to be like some weird movie where the CIA is going to have enough of this garbage and some cool dude in a dark suit will take care of her.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

Where does the Department of Defense stand on Sarah Palin buying herself a new General?

I would bet they probably suggested it to her. You must have seen over the last 6 years how Bush/Cheney routinely buy themselves generals and discard them when they are no longer of use.

9 09 2008
Gwynda

you have got to be kidding me! I am so scared that the American public are going to be fooled into voting for McCain and Failing. Honestly, how can this have happened?

I am so sick to my stomach over this choice by McCain. 😦

9 09 2008
judi

Regie, Maybe she thinks that Florida is foreign, after all she is so close to Russia?? thus so well informed on foreign policy and so far away from the sunshine state! And they say she is a fast learner====””////?

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

Another ad for Obama. Show the clip of his saying she had nothing to do with the guard. Then show the clip of his changing his tune. Then end with, “What happened”. Oh, she gave him his third star three days later.

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

burton says they’re not overreacting to one poll.
the projected debate viewership is around 90+ million.
i think Obama has a good strategy.

9 09 2008
ds55

I don’t think Palin pulled this stunt by herself. After she joined the McCain campaign, the full support of the Repub Party has been holding her up. They are clearing the stones from her path as we speak.

9 09 2008
bcolei

so what, pray tell, did she implement to help the soldiers when she got back from kuwait?

and what if any executive orders to the national guard has she excercised?

specifics anyone? or is all the doublespeak, corporate keyword spewing, and ass-kissing clouding the issue?

her executive experience seems unremarkable, her knowledge of the constitution is embarrassing and her mindset when it comes to the issues and the world is frightening. i cannot believe the American people are treating this election like it is for prom king and queen.

9 09 2008
drchill

Bonehead move to promote him right away, should have waited… another OOPS
I hope this all catches up to her BEFORE the election

Remember she is just another McCain choice

9 09 2008
joan

Phil,
It’s either one thing or the other: either Obama knows he is beaten and is marking time, or he knows something the rest of us don’t. I don’t think we should look to Hillary to fight his battles for him, either – she is obviously going to sit this one out (like she did back in 2004, when the country could have used her) and wait for the second Great Depression to start, then in 2012 she will be able to pop up again and say “Told ya so, folks”!

People in this country say they admire principled politicians, but in fact they despise them. They prefer Jerry Springer and a knock down drag out fight – it’s far more entertaining than thinking!

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

Congrats, other 40-something percent of Americans: you think stuff like this is okay.

This election is going to end up being a bigger hoax than 2000.

Sorry to be such a Debbie-downer, but… it doesn’t seem like anyone CARES about this crap but us. Any of it. Trying to fire a librarian for refusing to ban books is bad, firing a state trooper b/c he pissed you off is bad, but then promoting a military commander because he changes his mind and kisses your ass?? Good Lord. The Mayor of Detroit is starting to look like a decent person.

Sure, we’ll post this stuff around, but whether anyone will actually call it B.S. is up in the air. Come on, Obama!!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/ron-paul-to-appear-on-montana-ballot.html

re: ron paul on the montana ballot.
do you think this can pull Obama voters?

9 09 2008
karen marie

boy, you’re quick, AKmuckraker!

i just now read about this over at VetVoice (http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=42C597C0ED23A2D65AAE291F6541FBDE?diaryId=1869) and rushed over here to post it before i get back to work but you’ve already got it!

thanks for staying with developments.

once again, if this was about a democrat, it would be 24/7 on teevee, radio and print. but a republican? crickets.

9 09 2008
judi

Maybe she is lining up Campbell to be her Secretary of Defense– I challange all mudflatters to ask yourself whether or not you can afford not to donate to Obama/Biden again. I think you will donate as many times as needed to stop the GI Joe/Caribou Barbie madness!!

9 09 2008
tspey

BREAKING NEWS: Palin’s Banned Book List!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“…Some of the finest examples of American literature are on this list. AMERICA WAKE UP! A Sarah Palin as Vice President of the United States is a symbol not for change but for intolerance…”

Find the entire list at:

http://tspey.wordpress.com/

**As much as we would all love to have ‘the list’, I’m afraid it’s not going to happen. This list has been circulating for a little while, but isn’t the real list. She asked the librarian if she would “be OK with” removing certain books. But we don’t even know if she specified what they were. She was feeling out the librarian’s opinion on the concept. Librarian said no way. Palin told librarian she was getting the axe. Citizens revolted. Palin relented.
AKMuckraker

9 09 2008
LibertyLover

Is the general reading a teleprompter? It sure looks like it, and being unfamiliar with being on the TV, seems to jump all over GVS’s questions. He seems ready to answer before the questions are even asked. Or am I just reading things into the “interview”? It is Faux News.

Next question:

Read a different blogger (Phil Munger) about how Sarah actually believes that the world will end in her lifetime… My question is: If McCain gets elected, will actions that Mrs. Palin takes, facilitate the end-times or delay them?

9 09 2008
scharp

Another nod to AKMuckraker. Great work.

9 09 2008
Jim

Go Palin, show these truly misguided how to get it done!!!
MCCain/Palin 2008

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

Are these her banned books or a school’s summer reading list? Geez. I mean, does “Blubber” really warrant being banned?

9 09 2008
karen marie

tspey — “palin’s banned book list” has been debunked. it is not a list of the books she would like banned but a list of books that are people have banned or attempted to ban in the past.

9 09 2008
sheesh

tspey,

That’s not the banned book list. This one has already been debunked here and elsewhere. The issue really isnt WHAT books she asked to have removed but merely the fact that she DID ask. She could have asked for the Joy of Cooking to be banned for all it’s worth. The point is that asking to ban ANY book is wrong.

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

seems some rapture people want it all to end soon-
they’re selfish, and better than everyone else
and they don’t want to miss it

9 09 2008
mvngfwd

I wrote a really good response to ADN, it got posted and then they disabled “comments”. What’s up with that? I was trying to copy and paste it here when they went down. GRRRRR!

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

Okay, thanks for verifying, y’all. I didn’t think an actual list had surfaced.

9 09 2008
gearhead

Be careful about that banned book list. I’d seen it a week ago on another blog (a librarian blog), and it was pointed out that the Harry Potter books (at least the later ones, I’m not sure about the first) were published after the supposed date of the alleged attempt to ban books. This fact really needs some vetting.

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

It will be like another Thomas/Hill hearing. McCain will try and do the nasty with her, it is a given! She is going to hook him in, and expose him! Making her the victim in the White House. I am willing to bet her and the AIP, Todd have all this planned.

Sorry if I sound like a conspiracy theorist…but hey…it’s the world we live in!

9 09 2008
nunya

Hey, anybody here have questions for Sarah Palin?

NPR wants them.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/daydreaming/2008/09/your_question_for_sarah_palin.html#commentform

9 09 2008
tspey

Sorry to jump the gun. Thought I had something as I received an email this morning from a respected source who has ties to Wasilla.

It goes without saying however that we are even searching for a banned book list from a potential VP of the U.S.

9 09 2008
Laurie

RW…we have been doing this for 12 days….where have you been?

9 09 2008
karen marie

does anybody know what it was that palin put into the hands of the soldiers in the clip above from kuwait?

there was a report a month or so ago of members of the american military giving coins containing christian imprecations to iraqis going through a checkpoint to get to their home. i would suspect that palin was giving the soldiers shown in the clip that same christian coin or something similar but it would be great to have confirmation.

governors have no more of right to proselytize troops than troops have to proselytize each other or iraqis. given that there is specifically policy against both of the latter, one might think that there would be also for the former.

9 09 2008
Mil

Goodness gracious… this never stops does it?

Obama/Biden 08/12!

9 09 2008
Miemaw from Texas

Folks, get a grip!

I’ve been an Obama supporter almost from the get-go.

We went through this anxiety when Clinton went negative. His poll numbers went down, every body got gloom and doom, she won primaries. More gloom and doom.

But you know what? Turned out the guy and his campaign knew exactly what they were doing.

I’m thinking they still do. The fact that this stuff about Palin is drip, drip, dripping out at all, tells me that with 55 days until election, with a V.P. debate, with 2 presidential debates.

It’s still anybody’s game.

I just got a call from my local Democratic campaign headquarters. I’m off to pick up some yard signs and bumper stickers. I’d suggest you all do the same.

9 09 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

tspey

the banned book list is a rovian trick

dems do not send out chain emails….repugs do

the banned book list is being used to debunk the entire story

the fact remains, palin attempted to terminate the employment of the wasilla librarian as a result of her answers to being asked on 3 occasions as to what she would do if asked to remove objectional books from the library

no specific books were ever mentioned

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

the letter from anne kilkenny said palin approached the librarian about removing some books, didn’t it?
maybe there’s just no list.
but they did petition support for the librarian,
someone should have a copy of that

9 09 2008
bas

I’d really like to hear from some classified state employees, who cannot be fired at will. I’ll bet some of them have some stories to tell!

9 09 2008
RLS

I just read the link to andrew helcro’s blog given above. REALLY WORTH READING, especially the comments that are at the bottom. Gives the ANG members viewpoints on what is happening.

http://www.andrewhalcro.com/a_filtered_letter_to_the_governor#comment

9 09 2008
karen marie

“What’s amazing is that adding Palin has brought McCain into a dead heat with Obama.”

brian, someone else pointed out in another thread or post somewhere that this is not as bad as it looks — all that mccain was able to accomplish with the monkey wrench and the republican convention was a tie in the polls. all his “bounce” did was bring him even with obama.

it’s up to each of us to do what we can to help sanity win the day.

have any of you heard of the “million doors for peace”?

http://www.milliondoorsforpeace.org/petition.php

they are looking for people to sign up to take an end-the-war petition around for their neighbors to sign on september 20th.

i’ve signed up and look forward to getting as many signatures as i can.

9 09 2008
Independent in AZ

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (
Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

ya don’t say?

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Kind of off the subject.

This is a video of a young kid in the Dallas Ft/Worth area giving the Keynote to the DISD faculty. It is quite motivational, and inspiring.

http://www.dallasisd.org/keynote.htm

9 09 2008
karen marie

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

this cannot be repeated too many times.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“Wow…. She is incredible at quelling critics…. This is amazing.”

As I’ve said before, McCain-Palin would finish off the destruction of our country started by Bush Jr, and using the same methods.

I really think that Republicans should not be allowed to vote for at least two election cycles. My potted fern could make better voting choices than the shallow idiots who voted for Bush Jr TWICE, and are now worshipping Palin, and my potted fern doesn’t even have opposible thumbs.

9 09 2008
HamletsMill

Regi (11:08:56) :

sauer kraut (11:02:00) :

judi – I think you are wrong. She’s not just willing to be a wallflower. Based on her past political history – most of which is within just the past 10 years – she’ll waste no time in getting McCain out of the way. She is now in position to get the top spot in the country. If they get in, watch out. She’ll come up with all sorts of evidence of “high crimes and misdimeanors” by John McCain. You just watch and see.

I completely agree. She’s going to bat for him now to get to the VP then he better watch his back, once she’s in she’s going after his job. This is going to be like some weird movie where the CIA is going to have enough of this garbage and some cool dude in a dark suit will take care of her.
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I agree also. Think Glen Close’s character in “Fatal Attraction”.

Think the dead rabbit. McCain is toast. He has one leg in the next world already. He better get a food taster quick. The first “Fatal Attraction” conflict will come with Cindy. Der Fuhreress is a scheming narcissist and it is 1923 rapidly moving on 1933 now in The Party. All of Berlin, uh, I mean Juneau is in a state of turmoil. The “liberal media” are going to end up in concentration camps in Alaska near the Arctic Circle if somebody does not start asking some tough questions very soon. Just watch. This Tucker Bounds guy will end up in charge of the camps and Campbell Brown will be in the first box car out of the Eastern Media Establishment. The winters are cold in the Great White North and and Caribou Barbie holds the oil drilling rights plus she has her own hot tub and tanning bed. Yep. It is happening. Rove is laughing all the way to his eternal abode in the first ring of hell. Be afraid. Be very afraid. But keep trying to speak reason to people. At work here is is 18 Obama/Biden – 2 Palin/McCain. Do not give in to fear and panic yet. Be strong.

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Regi,

I don’t know if you saw my apology to you for where I unloaded on you six threads back. I got your post wrong. Please accept my apology. I got my glasses working right now. My bad!

Now it’s back to work here writing Java Code.

9 09 2008
Regi

Uncle Joe Mccarthy (11:39:58) :

tspey

the banned book list is a rovian trick

dems do not send out chain emails….repugs do

the banned book list is being used to debunk the entire story

the fact remains, palin attempted to terminate the employment of the wasilla librarian as a result of her answers to being asked on 3 occasions as to what she would do if asked to remove objectional books from the library

no specific books were ever mentioned

Yet FactCheck presented the story as entirely false. Sad to say FactCheck is going to lose credibility with a lot of intelligent people. I hadn’t been on it much since the last election, now I wonder if there’d been a slide since then or was it ever accurate? The US is an undereducated country. What? Like 25% of the population have a BA or higher I think? I’ll check. And how many of those make so much money they’d vote Jeffrey Dahmer into the White House if they think it means less taxes?

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (
Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

I think little Meghan should get her raggedy ass to Iraq and spend oh about 7 tours of duty there, walking point on village sweeps, and THEN get back to us about who knows about war.

9 09 2008
Ky

I really feel that this surge in the poles for the Republicans are due to the RNC. Last week, people predicted that we would see this, early this week. It’s only Tuesday.
Keep the hope, people! If you come across a story that has facts to back it, send it to the press!

9 09 2008
TheraP

And this woman calls herself a Christian!

Which disciple is she? Judas?

9 09 2008
Laurie

Regi…I gave up on fact check when their “facts” were followed by what I perceived as “snark”. There was a tone to some of what they wrote that made me feel uncomfortable. I dont believe they are an unbiased source at all.

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Are Alaskans really fooled by this woman? Don’t Alaskans ask questions or do they just accept whatever their politicians tells them as the truth?

9 09 2008
RW

Laurie,

I’m glad you are. Thanks. I’ve been here for 12 days too. I just want to make sure that we are not just talking amongst ourselves here, and bringing info in… but also getting out there on blogs where people haven’t heard about this before. It’s crucial we get this message out so that people who are not searching this out, might actually stumble upon this information on their own.

We need to educate the voters who just get their politics from MSM.

9 09 2008
Regi

HamletsMill (11:52:39) :

Apology accepted, and I appreciate the effort. Still have no idea what you said but I’m sure it was a great rebuttal !

9 09 2008
Ana Gama

FOLKS!

There is NO BOOK LIST! Even the librarian said no books were specified. Spend your time on productive stuff, not on rumors.

9 09 2008
Laurie

And how pray tell…would Meghan McCain have any idea of what war is like? The little brat was nowhere around like daddies other 2 kids. You know…the ones he abandoned because their mother had the audacity to become disfigured in an accident.

I am going to do a little more research on this, but I have read in several sources over the years, that Ross Perot felt so bad for the first Mrs. McCain, that he paid her medical bills.

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Political Amazon

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (
Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

I think little Meghan should get her raggedy ass to Iraq and spend oh about 7 tours of duty there, walking point on village sweeps, and THEN get back to us about who knows about war.

I saw this, too. I find her statement to be insulting to anyone currently serving in our military or who served in the past and to their families. That was an elitist remark. It’s all about them. The McCains are so removed from the general population. They were McCain hats and not American hats.

9 09 2008
Ky

Sorry, here is the FAIR’s Media contact list:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Laurie – Ross Perot did pay for Carol McCain’s medical bills. As a matter of fact, Ross Perot and Nancy Reagan dislike John McCain for how he treated his first wife.

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Oops… meant to type… They wear McCain hats…

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

Source: Top Lieberman aide quit in protest

Joe Lieberman’s legislative director Joe Goffman resigned yesterday in protest of his boss’s support of John McCain, according to a former Lieberman staffer with knowledge of the situation.

Goffman’s farewell email, posted here yesterday, suggested he had no new job waiting for him but gave no reason for his departure.

The resignation — delivered to Lieberman in person upon his return from the GOP convention on Monday — is only the latest in a half-dozen recent defections by top aides disaffected with Lieberman’s party switch.

Other departed deputies include Fred Downey, Lieberman’s long time foreign policy adviser, and two well-regarded legislative assistants, Colleen Shogan and Purva Rawal.

“Goffman is the biggest loss, he was really the guy who held the whole office together,” said the former aide. “Goffman, like most of them, was very disturbed by Lieberman’s behavior — Lieberman hasn’t consulted with any of them or told them what he planned to say… If you’re a Democrat and you stay in Lieberman’s office too long, there could be the perception that you are buying into his positions, so these poor guys are being put in a terrible spot.”

Goffman and other Lieberman refugees are reportedly being assisted in job hunts by Democratic leadership staff.

Goffman didn’t return calls for comment at his office or home.

9 09 2008
Regi

HamletsMill (11:52:39) :

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!

OUCH ! ;D

9 09 2008
mvngfwd

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/518522.html I like this one…but my question is: Isn’t this her hometown? If so, why did she expense $120 for food? Is there somewhere is Wasilla that costs $120 for lunch? I worked in NYC for 10 years and if I submitted an expense claim like that I would have been told to pay for it myself or justify it with a client’s name, company and purpose of the lunch. If Ms. Palin’s expenses are funded by Federal Tax dollars, I would like to see what I am paying for. I mean she has nothing to hide, right?

9 09 2008
Mil

Not to stir rumors… but my mother knows someone who knew Carol McCain and John McCain shortly after he had returned from Vietnam and was fully recovered. This person indicated that he had a bad temper and was very controlling.

I think we need to start looking carefully for more illustrations as to his temper. We already have a few. But I’m betting there are more.

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Hamlets Mill – I agree… McCain better watch his back around her. She has a way of eliminating competition. The thing is she will have to convince Congress to pursue impeachment proceedings which means convincing Democrats. If she does that, it could backfire on her and she could be impeached instead. Agnew went off to jail before Congress began impeachment proceedings against Nixon.

9 09 2008
Laurie

RW….I do understand what you are saying. I do know that most of us here have been putting this onto other blogs. Many times over for me.

9 09 2008
judi

Does anyone have a video of Meghan’s comments?

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Mil – good point. I’m sure there will be more temper tantrums as the campaign moves on. The best time for a temper tantrum would be at one of the debates. All Obama has to do is push enough of McCain’s buttons and he might just lose it.
And if was was nasty to his first wife, I’m sure he isn’t any nicer to Cindy.

9 09 2008
Anonymous

Palin to return to Alaska

Gov. Sarah Palin will return to Alaska on Wednesday. The McCain-Palin campaign is planning a “welcome-home rally” in Fairbanks.

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/130838

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Meghan – There’s one posted at http://tpzoo.wordpress.com

Help yourself🙂

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Sorry – Judi see my comment to Meghan😯

9 09 2008
Mil

Cats r Flyfishn (12:12:10) :

And if was was nasty to his first wife, I’m sure he isn’t any nicer to Cindy.

~~

Amen Cats. The friend hesitates to say anything bad about anyone so that’s why this got my attention. Dare I hope that someone really ticks McCain off soon? And on camera???

Btw, your icon looks *just* like my cat.

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Mil – cool… cat that is😛

9 09 2008
Phil

I agree that if elected, she’ll do everything she can to get rid of McCain, and he will become her “puppet.”

9 09 2008
Christina

I’m not sure who posted this video earlier this morning, but please take the time to watch it and pass it on to anyone who is undecided. Just another reason why McCain should not become our President! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Christina – It’s posted at Daily Kos in a Diary and I also posted it on my blog. I intended to keep it at the top of the page until November 4.

9 09 2008
Mil

lol, he’s in his snotty teenage phase and attacking all of the other cats. Reminds me of Palin actually. 😄 *looks innocent*

But, back to task… I’m reading the new Newsweek right now. It’s kinda irritating me. The main story on her seems to be giving her a pass. And right after is an editorial by a Hillarycrat that likes Palin. Kind giving me the heebie jeebies. I’m used to my Newsweek not fawning.

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

Mil – most bloggers just refer to me as Cats. All that other stuff is too much writing.

9 09 2008
JenaGG

mvngfwd: Lunch in Wascilla could easily cost $120 if you’re buying lunch for yourself, your husband and 50-11 kids.

9 09 2008
judi

Thanks cats and here is another one. It’s long and the quote is at the very end.

I agree with Obama, “you can’t make this stuff up”.

http://www.popcrunch.com/meghan-mccain-the-today-show-video/

Obama/Biden 2008

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

I think the Hillary supporters that like Palin were only going to vote for Hillary because she is a woman. I met Hillary supporters that told me that they were voting for Joe Biden for VP and they were well aware of the fact that this vote would include Obama.

9 09 2008
HamletsMill

Political Amazon (11:53:49) :

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (
Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

I think little Meghan should get her raggedy ass to Iraq and spend oh about 7 tours of duty there, walking point on village sweeps, and THEN get back to us about who knows about war.
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OMG. You have GOT to be kidding! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! This little brat did NOT say that? Can you provide a link for this? This is an insult to literally hundreds of thousands and tens of millions of people.

My Great Uncle was severely wounded in the Battle of the Argonne Forest in October 1918. He went is as a 1st Lieutenant with a BS Degree in Engineering from what is now Carnegie-Mellon University. He came back with a mind of a 5 year old child from the brain injury. My Grandmother had to go to NYC and go from hospital ship to hospital ship to try to find him. She did and took him home. There were tens of thousands of wounded coming back from the end of WWI. She had to teach him how to dress himself. How to tie his shoes. How to cut his food and eat it with a spoon. He lived 35 years in VA hospitals until his death in 1955. I met him as a small boy.

JFC! If she actually said this I am PISSED! It is all about them! Unbelievable! Absolutely unbelievable! Only HER FAMILY knows about war! OMG! These people are narcissistic scum. I am livid!

My father loaded the hospital ships at Tarawa in WWII. And unloaded them when they returned. He said the carnage was beyond belief.

9 09 2008
Sally

Have you seen this Good Morning America clip where they interview Palin’s closest friends, but three out of four demur when asked if they were going to vote for her?

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5750475

9 09 2008
Cats r Flyfishn

judi – Meghan wrote a children’s book about her dad? That’s horrible. As if children care about John McCain, POW, plane crasher. I can tell you this much, my grandchildren won’t be reading it.

9 09 2008
ds55

I predict Meghan will apologize soon, saying she misspoke.

9 09 2008
Ky

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (
Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

Really, Meghan? I’m sure there are a lot of soldiers and civilians in war torn countries that would have to disagree with you.

9 09 2008
JenaGG

Yeah, get ready for a heartfelt apology from Meghan … something along the lines of sharing the pain of war with past and present military families blah, blah, blah.

She meant what she originally said though … John McCain (and his family) seem to think that they have a patent on all things related to war. Ironically, he’s quick to want to stay in war or start new wars. You would think that he’d have an opposing opinion of war.

9 09 2008
Miemaw from Texas

It’s good to see things in the Alaska Kingdom of Sarah Palin haven’t changed.

She’s still buying people.

You know a three star has to make way more money, than an adjutant, even in the National Guard.

I can understand why somebody let the word “impeachment” sort of slip into conversation, here and there.

9 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Sally: I just watched that! To me they seem afraid to speak out about her.

I loved it that one of the friends spoke out about polar bears and said she disagreed with Palin.

Shocker – her best friends are mostly pro-choice!

9 09 2008
Mil

Thank you Cats. 🙂

I’m of the same opinion on the people who ‘switched’ from Hillary to McCain. They were probably republican to begin with, but wanted to vote for a bra. And Now they are overjoyed with Palin. Naive. So naive.

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/06/perot-vs-mccain.html

There’s a quote floating around the Interwebs this week from Ross Perot that slams John McCain (from London’s Mail on Sunday newspaper, posted June 8):

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.
‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’

That sounded familiar to me. I swore that I had read it before. So I went digging, and I came up with this excerpt of an interview Perot gave to Jonathan Alter, a senior editor and all-around political guru at Newsweek (posted Jan. 16):

Just days before the South Carolina GOP primary, he wants me to know that McCain “is the classic opportunist–he’s always reaching for attention and glory. Other POWs won’t even sit at the same table with him.” …

9 09 2008
9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

I tried to post a link from the dallas morning news, Perot vs. McCain. It must have went into the spam filter.

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

you can also google it. How Perot calls McCain “the classic opportunitst–he’s always reaching for attention and glory. Other POWs won’t even sit at the same table with him.”

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Perot also says, “After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.”

9 09 2008
Mil

lol on the interview with the friends…

She doesn’t like cats??? rofl I have the perfect home then. Five cats that *love* people who don’t like cats. hehehehe

9 09 2008
judi

Cats, my grandchildren won’t read the Mccain book either…maybe caribou barbs can read it to hers….that is if it isn’t banned!

9 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

*lol* Perot never changes, does he?

9 09 2008
Phil

Christina:

Excellent video link! I wish Obama campaign would use it (at least some of the sound bites). Thanks for the link!

Feeling a little more positive than earlier. I just need to remember that it is the Rovian style of politics to make the other side feel like they are losing. And, I think if we all remember that the MSM and the polls are run entirely by the conservative right, it’s not a true picture of what many, many Americans are thinking! Typical Rove politics, Divide and Polarize. Hopefully, Obama’s campaign can “outsmart” them!!!

9 09 2008
Regi

Ky (12:27:21) :

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.” (
Meghan McCain, daughter of Sen. John McCain, on the Today Show.)

Really, Meghan? I’m sure there are a lot of soldiers and civilians in war torn countries that would have to disagree with you.

If McCain gets in the tortured becomes the torturer. It’s almost as poetic as pathetic.

9 09 2008
GH

If you’re freaking out over the latest poll numbers, read this:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/9/143012/5021/556/592373

The Gallup poll conducted after the Democratic convention in 1988 gave Dukakis a 55% to 38% lead over George Bush.

This is a link to the NYT news article at the time.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD7113EF935A15754C0A96E948260

9 09 2008
All I Saw

I’m guessing families in Darfur, or at least the surviving members know a fuckload more than anyone named McCain.

9 09 2008
HamletsMill

Regi (11:58:22) :

HamletsMill (11:52:39) :

Apology accepted, and I appreciate the effort. Still have no idea what you said but I’m sure it was a great rebuttal !

Regi (12:05:12) :

HamletsMill (11:52:39) :

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!

OUCH ! ;D
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Regi, Many thanks for accepting my apology! I really did unload on you by mistaking your post many threads back and I am very, very sorry! I have since become a big fan of your posts! It was late at night that night and like everyone else I am completely exhausted by trying to keep up with everything here on the vast Mudflats for the last 12 disorienting days since Fateful Friday. I just didn’t have my “They Live” glasses on correctly at that moment that night.

Maybe if we all survive this psychological hell and the nation survives and our money is not worthless, there will be a Mudflats Reunion in person somewhere? If our money is not worthless, I’ll buy you dinner to try to make amends!

Everyone keep posting!

But try to pace yourselves and get some rest!

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

Cats r Flyfishn (12:03:20) :
Laurie – Ross Perot did pay for Carol McCain’s medical bills. As a matter of fact, Ross Perot and Nancy Reagan dislike John McCain for how he treated his first wife.

Perot paid for the operations she had after the accident. John and Cindy McCain are paying her lifetime health benefits….as long as Carol doesn’t speak out about how John treated her and their children. To this day Carol McCain says that she is friends with John and doesn’t hold anything against him. I wonder how long that would last if McCain cut off his payments to her.

9 09 2008
Lisa

Found a great place to hang out! For the last week I have been hanging out in beauty shops, with voter registrations in hand. I’ve gotten some great feed back. Most women that I have spoken with are only hearing what in on MSM. I have gotten one owner really invloved, and she will call for facts, or with questions that she can’t answer. This site has been my best resource for information. Don’t forget to donate!

9 09 2008
mvngfwd

How did Meghan explain what happened AFTER Daddy got home from Vietnam? Any mention of the 1st Mrs. McCain and those pesky, first children? I am utterly amazed how they are using the children and then ask for “hands off” at the same time. It would be like telling your boss that you need to take time off for your child’s illness and then screaming “it is none of your business!” when the boss asks how the child is when you return. EVERY Man, woman and child who is living and have been touched by the pain of war should read her the riot act. War causes human damage on BOTH sides, Meghan, but I guess “daddy” did not explain that. When my husband and I went to Hanoi and visited the “Hanoi Hilton” we were aghast at these wooden boxes with spikes sticking inward. These were reserved for the Vietnamese who “sympathized” with the Americans. I guarantee you that no one came out of those alive, let alone ran for President 40 years later regurgitating his experience over and over. While I realize the prison is now a museum and slanted for propaganda, it is very clear to anyone who has been there, the Vietnamese treated their own people much worst. War is hell for everyone, Meghan, that is why we should try to avoid it at all costs.

9 09 2008
Chris

Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/4/155547/0997

9 09 2008
John Henry

She is Donald Trump on steroids!

You pull the string on Barracuda Barbie and it says, “You’re fired! You’re fired! You, You, and You. You’re fired!”

9 09 2008
lemonfair

Don’t know if someone’s mentioned this already, but mudflats got cited as a source on Mark Halperin’s “The Page” at Time.com. that will bring huge traffic, and we don’t really need to worry a lot about whether this stuff will get to the MSM. Whether they report it is another thing.

9 09 2008
Amused and Bewildered

BREAKING NEWS!!

McCain Campaign Stands Up Palin Truth-Squadding Team

“The McCain campaign is standing up a truth-squadding operation designed to push what they deem as “smears” about Gov. Sarah Palin out of circulation.”

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/mccain_campaign_stands_up_pali.php

9 09 2008
judi

never was a Ross Perot fan —but, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. My buddy ross

9 09 2008
blogoffanddie

Fortunately, for the world, there are millions upon millions of brilliant and intelligent people in America. Unfortunately, Sarah Palin doesn’t appear to be one of them.

These are very dangerous times both economically and militarily. Whoever is elected better know what the hell they’re doing.

http://www.blogoffanddie.wordpress.com

I don’t care who wins anymore, just as long as they all have nice hair and flag lapel pins.

9 09 2008
Amused and Bewildered

This just in…

McCain Campaign Stands Up Palin Truth-Squadding Team

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/mccain_campaign_stands_up_pali.php

9 09 2008
John Henry

judi (13:01:07) :

Follow the money! – Ross Perot

9 09 2008
Jeri

Don’t know if this has been posted yet, Ed Koch former Mayor of NY, who backed gwb 2004′ is voting for Obama. He thinks Palin is scary. Duh!!!!!!!
Maybe Florida Jewish will swing to Obama as well.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Koch_backs_Obama_calls_Palin_scary.html

9 09 2008
Another from England

AP News are reporting that palin claimed flight and hotels for Bristol on a trip to New York.

Palin took her daughter Bristol to New York in October for a conference on women and leadership, a tour of the New York Stock Exchange and various meetings, the analysis shows. Travel costs included three nights in a hotel room costing more than $700 a night.

Perhaps they thought it was the Smock Exchange.

9 09 2008
judi

John Henry— Caribou Barbie yells, “You are promoted” when you kiss her on the ass!

9 09 2008
ds55

Chris, thank you for the link. Very interesting.

9 09 2008
writergirlinLA

Has anyone noticed that the picture on the official press release of the promotion from the Gov’s office has a picture of Palin posing in front of an original 49 star American Flag at her 2008 annual picnic? Was that a wink to the AIP or what? Country First my arse!

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/large_photo.php?id=168

9 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches”

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/4/155547/0997

:-@ are you kidding me!

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

“Palin took her daughter Bristol to New York in October for a conference on women and leadership”

That made me LOL. I want to know what they learned there.

9 09 2008
JT

lemonfare wrote:” Don’t know if someone’s mentioned this already, but mudflats got cited as a source on Mark Halperin’s “The Page” at Time.com. that will bring huge traffic, and”

Does this mean we need to change from our casual attire and dress up, to put on a good impression??

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

Maybe Team Obama should get their own highly-touted Truth Squad!

McPalin seems to be sidestepping smear headlines by making BIGGER headlines about un-smearing the smears! Unbelievable. If this is considered modern-day politics, our forefathers must be rolling over in their graves.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

@Laurie 12:00:23

You said you were going to do more research on John McCain’s treatment of his FIRST FAMILY. You might find these links helpful:

Picture and article about his first wife, Carol (DESERTED by McCain)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Picture of his FIRST FAMILY (DESERTED by McCain)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-divorce11-2008jul11,0,5924926,full.story

This is the Viet Nam Veterans Against John McCain site – WORTH READING
http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

McCain the P.O.W.? or McCain the DESERTER???

I believe the way a person treats his or her family says a LOT about character!

9 09 2008
NoCalGal

I got this from a musician friend of mine. I think the website is interesting in it’s commentary… I am NOT affiliated with this group and do not know anything about them, except this little bio bit.. but it seems to add to the body of info on the Palin issue.

http://portugaltheman.net/

PORTUGAL. THE MAN MEMBERS SPEAK OUT ON SARAH PALIN

So, the MOST famous person from Wasilla, Alaska is GOP Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin. But, RIGHT behind her are Wasilla natives John Baldwin Gourley and Zachary Scott Carothers, two members of indie-rock band Portugal. The Man, who, in its four-and-a-half-star review of the band’s new album, “Censored Colors,” Alternative Press called “one of the truly great bands of this generation.”

John Gourley has just posted a blog on the band’s website – http://portugaltheman.net/ – where he writes a passionate and touching essay about HIS Alaska, what is a TRUE Alaskan, and why we, the American people, don’t need Sarah Palin.

Gourley and Carothers grew up in the tiny town of Wasilla, fishing, hiking, and playing music together. Gourley and his hippie parents lived outside of town in a remote log cabin that was powered by a generator and had no phone. His mom and dad, a team of dog sled mushers, ran Alaska’s annual Iditarod, dubbed the “last great race on earth.” And Carothers remembers his frequent banter with Palin, then Wasilla’s Mayor, about building a town skate park (never happened). Gourley and Carothers’ families still live in Wasilla, and both return home whenever their touring schedule allows. Gourley has said that Alaska, with its breathtaking, ice-filled landscapes, has had a huge impact on the band’s music.

With their third album, “Censored Colors” set for release September 16, and their fall U.S. headline tour kicking off October 14, the critically-acclaimed blusey/folkie/indie/progy/poppy rock band has been making their own mark in the Lower Forty-Eight. Cutting-edge media, from Filter to Absolute Punk to Alternative Press to theTripwire have raved about the band, and put P.TM in some pretty heady company, comparing their music to the music of artists like the White Stripes, the Mars Volta, Jeff Buckley, Led Zeppelin and even the Beatles.

9 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“This just in…
McCain Campaign Stands Up Palin Truth-Squadding Team”

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/mccain_campaign_stands_up_pali.php

the list of people on this committee is interesting especially:

· Former Governor Jane Swift (R-MA)
who was in a scandal regarding a helicopter she used to commute between her hometown of north adams massachusetts (western MA) and boston (eastern MA). no doubt swifty will applaud palin for abusing her position as well.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

McCain’s treatment of women and his famous temper…

Lots of stories about his temper. Saw a clip yesterday (here???) with Sens. Boxer and Hutchison. Hutch was defending, natch, although she’s FAR more qualified to be VP than Palin! Said that everyone in the Senate loses it periodically. Boxer was just shaking her head. Responded with something like, yeah, people get upset, but not like McCain. I suspect his new-found unwillingness to meet with the media except in controlled situations may be the result. He did a recent interview with Time, which should certainly have been friendly, and he was downright rude, snide and snotty whenever they pushed him at all. Suspect that may be Obama’s debate posture — can they give McCain enough Prozac to be cool and still coherent???

There are lots of references on the ‘Net, including video of him losing it and displaying a potty mouth. Here’s just one (sans vid).
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/05/mccain_cornyn_cursing_showdown.html
The entire exchange sounds like Cornyn was miffed at McCain grandstanding.

I don’t necessarily fault people for having a potty mouth. I’ve been known to engage myself from time to time, but it’s always when I’m ticked off. And I really try to watch my mouth unless I’m with friends. I sure wouldn’t do it if I thought it’d be on camera or if was running or expected to run for high political office. I’d clean up my act in a hurry. At least that way I could argue that it was a former bad habit that I’d broken!

As to how he treats Cindy, there are plenty of reports of his mouth getting the better of him when he’s annoyed at her too. The kind of stuff that nobody should say to a loved one, especially with withnesses. I don’t suppose they’re talking though, so it can just be passed off as ugly rumor. Dems get lambasted but Repubs get a pass. “It just shows his grit.” Sheeeesh!

9 09 2008
JT

Kate – I’m sure one of the 1st wife’s reason for reserving her negative comments on her X is the payments. She needs them. Unfortunately she is not in a position to tell him what she really thinks – if it is negative. Who knows, maybe she really does have no negative feelings, but I seriously doubt it. Plus, she may not want to trash her children’s dad.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“Sarah Palin used AK tax dollars to fund dominionist churches

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/4/155547/0997

For anyone who is not familiar with Christian Reconstructionism, especially the inroads it has made in the GOP, visit my suite of articles on Christian Reconstructionism:

http://www.politicalamazon.com/cr.html

Be sure to read the article about Tom McClintock. He is California’s own stealth CR candidate, and the power he has is truly scary.

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Are people signing up to volunteer and go to neighboring swing states? In Texas there is a drive to go to Colorado, or New Mexico. I am going to sign up and go on a weekend.

9 09 2008
Harley

I just thought we needed a little levity……I know I did
I received this email from my daughter this afternoon and it just lifted my spirits so much that I thought I would share with all of you.
I know these are serious times, but we all need a a tension breaker from time to time.
Enjoy ! I did !

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Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators during the Summer Olympics:

1. Weightlifting commentator: ‘This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing.’

2. Dressage commentator: ‘This is really a lovely horse and I speak from personal experience since I once mounted her mother.’

3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: ‘I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father.’

4. Boxing Analyst: ‘Sure there have been injuries and even some deaths in boxing, but none of them really that serious.

5. Softball announcer: ‘If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing again.’

6. Basketball analyst: ‘He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn’t like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces.’

7. At the rowing medal ceremony: ‘Ah, isn’t that nice, the wife of the IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew.’

8. Soccer commentator: ‘Julian Dicks is every where. It’s like they’ve got eleven Dicks on the field.’

9. Tennis commentator: ‘One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them… Oh my God, what have I just said?’

9 09 2008
Ana Gama

“Maybe Florida Jewish will swing to Obama as well. ”

They already did. Latest poll from FL shows the McCain lead totally evaporated, and they are now tied.

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

JT (13:21:25) :
Kate – I’m sure one of the 1st wife’s reason for reserving her negative comments on her X is the payments. She needs them. Unfortunately she is not in a position to tell him what she really thinks – if it is negative. Who knows, maybe she really does have no negative feelings, but I seriously doubt it. Plus, she may not want to trash her children’s dad.

Why not. It’s my understanding that the children from his first marriage have relatively little to do with McBush.

9 09 2008
Diva

Regarding Megan McCain’s statement that “only my family knows war”, I DEMAND that the TV news shows devote as much time to that stupid, ignorant, idiotic statement as they did to Chelsea Clinton refusing to answer a rude questioner at a rally. Chelsea was eviscerated for that!

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

Here’s a link to the Mother Jones article on Christian Reconstructionism in California:

http://www.politicalamazon.com/cr-ahmanson.html#motherjones

I worked very closely with the researcher who provided the majority of the information for this article.

This should be a must-read for everyone because they have already started in California, and are branching out to other states…perhaps even yours.

9 09 2008
judi

Thanks NoCal for the article above. John Gourley’s blog about his Alaska was inspirational —-and thanks Nancy for
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/4/155547/0997

9 09 2008
Ohio Sue

Does anyone here remember whether other presidential candidates have done what McCain is doing on the “stump” – the constant repetition (almost verbatim) of his acceptance speech (or of selected parts of it). This is a real question – it’s getting to the point where I can almost mouth the words of his speech along with him (yes, perhaps I am listening too much). I really don’t notice that with Obama. Is it me?

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

letsgetreal:
i’m going to virginia — with my republican friend for obama!

9 09 2008
misskae

Has everyone watched the video via the link Christina reposted? If not, take the time! I just watched it and immediately posted it to my Facebook profile.
I too would like to see this used as the basis for an effective ad – it would be as effective as the “daisy” ad that only was aired (once) by Johnson’s campaign for the 1964 election. (There’s even an entry about this ad on Wikipedia.) I learned on the Wiki that the Republicans cried ‘foul’ about this ad, because it was ‘fear-mongering’. Well, it’s time to fight fire with fire.
One other thing I like about it is that since Palin is not on it all the focus is drawn to McCain. You feel sick about him by the time it’s over.

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Kate Henry: the Reagan’s also moved Carol McCain in with Ed Meese! Some friends. lol.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-divorce11-2008jul11,0,5924926,full.story

his kids look like hippies!! lousy father…

9 09 2008
sheesh

JT,

I do think what we need to be completely prepared for (and we’ve already seen this) are more visitors from the right who tend to invect a bit of venom in their posting. So lets not feed those Trolls. Be respectful of differing viewpoints…we know we won’t be changing their mind. If those differing viewpoints are voiced with hatred, ignore it and don’t let them hijack this incredible blog. Just keep telling yourselves ‘Resist temptation!’

9 09 2008
Lisa

LetsGetReal,
I get over to Missouri about every other weekend. People in Indepenence are fired up, lots of Obama signs. I didn’t make it to Lee’s Summit when the carvinal was in town, but hope to this weekend.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

McCain Camp: Biden “Sunk To A New Low” On Stem Cell Research

Biden:
“I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both the joy…and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect,” he said. “Well, guess what folks? If you care about it, why don’t you support stem cell research?”

Biden spokesman David Wade insisted Tuesday the Delaware senator’s comments were not directed at Palin.

“This is a clash of policies, not a clash of personalities,” Wade said. “We’ve heard not a dime’s worth of difference between the McCain-Palin ticket and the Bush Administration on medical breakthroughs that millions of parents and doctors believe could save lives and transform the quality of life for countless Americans.”

hmmm! Joe seems to have struck a nerve – GO JOE! Take the focus off the “packaged” McCain/Palin stump speech!

9 09 2008
Lulu

My question for Palin (and Charlie Gibson is welcome to it):

On a map, please identify the top 10 economic powers in the world, and then explain your plan to make the United States competitive again in the transglobal economy of the 21st century?

9 09 2008
Regi

Regi, Many thanks for accepting my apology! I really did unload on you by mistaking your post many threads back and I am very, very sorry! I have since become a big fan of your posts! It was late at night that night and like everyone else I am completely exhausted by trying to keep up with everything here on the vast Mudflats for the last 12 disorienting days since Fateful Friday. I just didn’t have my “They Live” glasses on correctly at that moment that night.

Maybe if we all survive this psychological hell and the nation survives and our money is not worthless, there will be a Mudflats Reunion in person somewhere? If our money is not worthless, I’ll buy you dinner to try to make amends!

Everyone keep posting!

But try to pace yourselves and get some rest!

The post was excellent. I’m lost as anyone, I’m sure my parents and their parents before them thought the country was lost at some point. It hasn’t been lost yet. This country is bigger than it’s politicians as hard as that is to believe. I think Meghan McCain meant as compared to the other candidates BTW, not those of us who’ve lived with veterans.
I truly believe Iraq and Afghanistan (Isn’t it always Afghanistan) will get the worst of this and someday all these conservatives will sit on their couches berating the damn liberals that wouldn’t let them nuke the eye-rakies. Such is life for the ignorant.

9 09 2008
lila

Diva (13:30:05) :

Regarding Megan McCain’s statement that “only my family knows war”, I DEMAND that the TV news shows devote as much time to that stupid, ignorant, idiotic statement as they did to Chelsea Clinton refusing to answer a rude questioner at a rally. Chelsea was eviscerated for that!

Not to mention the negative coverage given to Chelsea not speaking with reporters when she was campaigning for her mother.
Shouldn’t Palin (a candidate herself) not talking to reporters be logarithmically more important to cover than Chelsea’s decision not to?

9 09 2008
Diva

Megan McCain video-

“No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period.”

Send this around, people! The arrogance and ignorance is astounding!

9 09 2008
sheesh

Lulu,

Love the question…guaranteed she’d be at a loss for an answer.

9 09 2008
Laurie

To any Canadians reading and posting.

In the Globe and Mail today, there is an article about the fact that the Taliban in Afghanistan are stepping up attacks on our troops because they know we are now in the midst of an election. The Taliban know, that Canadians are frustrated, because it is a major front and there needs to be more of an American presence.

Barack Obama knows and understands this….John McCain does not.

9 09 2008
willpen

Obama calls Palin on “mocking the constitution”. Great article and youtube video. Spread the video and article links around to all the media sites.

http://www.willpen.wordpress.com

9 09 2008
drchill

Careful –

McCain’s choice is biting back. False claims of banned book list are being dismissed as a slur ‘campaign.’

The more False reports, the easier McCain’s camp will dismiss EVERYTHING as part of a slur campaign.

Get your facts straight.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/mccain-camp-responds-to-f_n_124947.html

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

robert greenwald-sign up for the truth squad! i really think greenwald does great things and i like to support him. hope you guys can as well.

http://therealmccain.com/squad/?utm_source=rgemail

9 09 2008
Diva

Ila, the irony of this has totally broken my “Irony Meter”!

When did Hillary or Chelsea demand they be treated with “deference”? They would have been raked over the coals if anyone suggested such a thing on their behalf.

9 09 2008
Riverside

Question:

If Governor Sarah Palin sweeps Senator John McCain into the White House and she stays on as VP, who will be the next governor of Alaska? Will there have to be an election, or can she just appoint Todd Palin. It seems he has been getting a lot of executive experience on the payroll in the last two years.

Or is there a Lt. governor somewhere that noone has heard of?

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

AnnieinWa- good post about stem cell
that was a huge deal in claire mccaskill’s (sp?) win

i attached the ed koch article in the wapo to the dominionist link someone posted, and sent to south florida, I know its made the rounds a bit already, and one aunt (75ish years old) called to ask if this was true.
when she heard the stuff about alaska being a refuge for the end-times ahe freaked: “This has NO place in the White House. This is anti American! We need to worry about the problems we nave NOW!”
i lmao.

whatever works.

9 09 2008
JB

From Huffington Post. Someone please slip this under the windshield wiper of Barack’s bus… or deliver it to David Axelrod via pizza box–whatever it takes to get this conveyed to those at the top.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/what-obama-needs-to-do-in_b_125051.html

9 09 2008
Laurie

Bill Mahr is going nuts on CNN….oh boy…is he good.

9 09 2008
Lizzie

Lulu: let’s not go overboard here. How about….”Can you spell transglobal?”

9 09 2008
Bystander

The “deference” comment(s) and Megan McCain’s comments regarding military families can both be seen as elitist and unpatriotic.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Laurie (13:53:35) :

I missed Bill Mahr, but Chris Matthews just asked if we can equate “experience” to “intelligence”. More to come after the break.

9 09 2008
mvngfwd

Bravo Lulu! But you might want to “dumb down” the question…she might not understand it.;)

9 09 2008
Scotsgirl

Was at my local bank today and had a great conversation with the female VP who claimed to be independant and what did I think of SP – well, thanks to much of the info garnered from this blog I was able to tone down my personal unkind thoughts of The Gov and give good reasons and back up info not to mention a certain link to a certain website/blog for further reading and information! She thanked me and admitted all she knew was from regular old news sites on tv. I feel I educated her and was quite proud of myself. I am still amazed on adaily basis at how un informed the general public are. I guess being foreign (uk) and unable to vote I was kind of lackadaiscal prior to the VP pick but that has incensed me and now I am frothing at the mouth trying my damndest to warn everyone I meet of the hideousness of SP.
I do believe though that this is a fight we are winning, don’t believe the polls!
As that JACKASS Mc Cain said””FIGHT,FIGHT,FIGHT”!
Except of course we are ‘fighting’ for entirely different things!!!

9 09 2008
zorro

More than you’ll ever want to know about Palin-

http://thinkprogress.org:80/palin-digest/

9 09 2008
Harley

Ok, has had to look at all the links Thanks everyone as usual
great stuff….keep em coming
Yes, Bill Mahr was great, he should be on campaign

9 09 2008
sheesh

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/what-obama-needs-to-do-in_b_125051.html

Wow!!! No kidding JB. This is as good as it gets for advice. This is the playbook that campaign needs to adopt ASAP.

9 09 2008
9 09 2008
ds55

McCain connected the Minnesota bridge collapse to Palin’s Alaska pork.
http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/8052/mccain-connected-35w-bridge-collapse-to-palins-pork

Video and text at the link. This is important to me as a Minnesotan.
Thanks again to Chris for posting it earlier.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

RE: McCain’s so-called truth squad. ..
Given how quickly we try to squash rumors, and fact check about their candidates, I’d say we’re at least as qualified as his picks. Difference is we’re actually interested in finding the truth and getting it out, not just “cleansing” it.

9 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

LuLu,

Sorry, you are just asking too much there. 🙂

9 09 2008
PJ

The lies to nowhere!!!

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Laughing No Longer… (13:50:18) :

I am glad you found Biden’s stem cell post relevant. I hope it draws people’s attention to the FAR right “life” positions of Palin’s –

no way…
no choice…
no abortion…
no matter if you were raped!

Think that would fit on a t-shirt?

Even Nancy Reagan gave a moving speech supporting stem cell research. The American people need Palin’s positions spelled out for them SIMPLY.

9 09 2008
Mollys Mum

JB, while I think that’s an excellent article in the Huffington Post, don’t underestimate Obama. I think he knows exactly what he is doing and his tactics are very sound. Watch both parts of his interview with Keith Olbermann. He is being very consistent in his campaign strategy and he’s not taking the bait of getting into either a mud-slinging brawl or a ping-pong contest of negative attacks. Over and over again he repeats the specific points of his platform and reaffirms that he has confidence in the intelligence of the American people. That coupled with his tremendously well organized grass-roots campaign will do him far more good than any rabble rousing at this point. Remember, right now we are still broiling away in the fires the conventions have lit. Things will settle down, the media will swing away from adoring Palin into investigating her (it’s already happening) , the debates will give the public a chance to compare the candidates on their issues. Obama has a long-term operative plan and it is heartening to me to see that he is not allowing himself to be swayed by the heat and the emotion of the moment. THAT is the sort of President I want in the white house–someone who can keep his perspective and his cool in the midst of a crisis. What did Rudyard Kipling say?–“If you can keep your head when all about you/ are losing theirs and blaming it on you…..” That’s our man and we should be proud of him for it.

9 09 2008
Harley

http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/8052/mccain-connected-35w-bridge-collapse-to-palins-pork

Thanks for that link

While reading it the thought occurred to me that the paper
is from Minnesota.

Is it possible these ” polls ” are not as reflective of the electorate as we might assume?

Oh say its so Joe, says its so !

9 09 2008
NoCalGal

So.. how is the Canadian Media covering SP ? They are closer to AK than those of us in the lower 49… anyone know?

Also- 2 excellent articles on Liberals.. and Obama defending the Constitution…

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/opinion/09herbert.html?_r=2&em&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/08/obama_to_palin_dont_mock_the_c.html

Thank you too for the clip of MM saying ONLY her damily knows war…

wonder how Obama’s WWII concentration camp uncle feels about that….

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Harley
That’s gross. It is sick and dispicable, and offensive and divisive and underhanded and hateful and and and. Wonder how many Rhodes Scholars are on the Fox staff….

More evidence that today’s GOP is pandering to the “I hate smart” crowd. I’ve been reading so much the last 12 days that I don’t remember where it was, but somebody mentioned that the GOP has become the resentful party. Given that they’re really serving the top 1%, I fail to see what those folks have to be resentful about. The rest are just being used. When they’re no longer needed, they’ll be dropped like so much hot wax. That’s when we’ll see REALLY resentful!

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

Drchl, I agree that we should be very careful before we repeated stories. Responsible people will get their bonafides in order before they publish.

However, if you compare the number of lies that Sarah Palin has said just since McCain annointed her VP and compare them to the handful of partially incorrect statements about Palin (i.e., she may not have given the librarian a book list, but she certainly used her position of authority to attempt to intimidate her), Palin is WAY in the lead in the “lie” column.

AND her lies were intentional. Partial errors on Palin’s background is just well-meaning but uncareful vetting of information.

And McCain-Palin and the GOP surely knows about vetting problems by now.

9 09 2008
Deb

Let’s get real…I live in Colorado (about 60 miles up the road from Focus on the Family who LOVE McCain and Palin) Although Colorado voted in a DEM governor last fall and DEMS are on the rise, Palin has really fired up the right here! It is a VERY split state. Could use anything to swing this state!

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

My gut tells me Palin is a diversion. I realize she’s sucking the oxygen out of ME right now, but it is McCain, and his BUSH/CHENEY/ROVE record, who is being left out of the conversation. Barack is talking about Palin’s changing position on that “Bridge to Nowhere”. Doesn’t it seem odd to hear the presidential candidate taking-on the opponents VP?

9 09 2008
Deb

Have to remember that the media swings REPUBLICAN because of deregulation and $$$. Is a scary thing to watch true “reporting” go partisan. The right didn’t like balanced reporting before, they are having a field day with this!

9 09 2008
Gryphen

Okay I have a little behind the scenes Alaska gossip for you about Craig Campbell.

Campbell’s daughter worked for me about fifteen years ago. I guess she would have been about 19 or twenty years old.

She flat hated her dad!

He was running for the Anchorage Assembly at the time and he forced her to participate in one of his commercials (Actually it might have been his ONLY commercial.)

Anyhow she shows up to do the commercial drunk off her ass! And Campbell, who is so straight laced that he probably has a two by four shoved up his ass, was completely humiliated. So he took out her speaking part but still made her do the family walk down the street that all of these minor politicians make their families do with them. The poor girl was so tipsy that she couldn’t walk straight and they had to do a number of takes to get it right.

I won’t give you her first name because she was a good kid, but I remember she even flirted with the idea of being a Wiccan just to piss her dad off who was this super strict Christian guy.

She grew out of all of that stuff after awhile, like I said she was a good kid.

9 09 2008
JB

Mollys Mum.
Thanks for your level-headed remarks. Don’t get me wrong–I have not and will not give up on, lose faith in, or underestimate Obama. It’s the American public that sometimes chill me to the bone with their inability or unwillingness to think critically about what they are fed by various sources. I think we all enjoyed Obama’s strong stance hinting of righteous indignation in his speech in Denver. I’m just asking for more of THAT, because THAT is what most Americans can agree is a picture of strong, serious, believable leader. Like Westen said in that post on Huffington, many many Americans vote with their guts. Barack has the thinkers on his side already. Now he really does have to think in terms of “chess.”

Bring on Paul Begala!

Stay plugged in, everyone. Although my father voted for Huckabee in the primaries, my mom voted for Obama. She’s holding strong for us down in the red part of Virginia!

9 09 2008
politiscope

The title of this should be ‘How to Get Promoted (Or Not Fired) in PalinWorld.’

Ok, he goes from

“he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.”

to

“I’ll tell you, in the last few days, I’ve been watching the press, and I’ve not been very pleased with what I’ve been seeing about the chastising of the National Guard by having it diminished by the insinuation that a commander-in-chief of the National Guard doesn’t really control the military. The National Guard has 500,000 people in it around this great country, serving in states and overseas. National Guards are state military forces run by governors, and Sarah Palin does it great.”

“Oh yeah”, he says ,”she does it real good”.

Its sickening. If you are going to jerk me off, at least, use a kung-fu grip. Now they are the champion of the National Guard. If anyone is against our troops, its Bush and McWar. They were dragged kicking and screaming to sign the GI Bill.

I don’t fault Major-General. Some people have a family to support and need to keep their jobs. I certainly would not want her signing my paychecks. I fault this so-called model of Christianity morality treating people like “ground noise and static”.

9 09 2008
chrish

And it’s on FOX News, hmmm, what are the odds of FOX doing a smpathetic interview with a Republican?

9 09 2008
sheesh

Anne in WA,

That’s been the possible unintended benefit of Palin on the ticket…she’s served as an incredible diversion to McCain, whom the Repubs have never been fond of (particularly the far right) anyway and a brilliant diversion from Bush. Which is why that piece on Huffpo should truly be taken to heart by the Obama camp.

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

omg! Annieinwa- they’re so lame they might think we’re on that side.
do they even get irony?
ya think charlie gibson can ask about stem-cell research now? they are diabolical.

9 09 2008
ds55

I agree there may be a plot to have McCain/Palin win the election, then get rid of McCain. But I don’t think it’s Palin’s plot. I think it’s Rove and his ilk who would most like to have Palin as a puppet for the next 4 years. Scary.

9 09 2008
Harley

It is indeed gross, despicable, filled with fear on so many levels it is also
the way the Republican really thinks.

I am a child of the 60’s.

My mother passed away when I was7 years old.
I raised by a southern Father ( Boone, N.C. ) and a very
turn of the century grandmother ( born Aug 6 1905 ).

My father was indeed raised in a Pentecostal church.
My grandmother ( my mothers , mother ) was Episcopal
and I was raised as an Episcopal in a little town that missed being the Capitol of the U. S. by one single vote in Congress.
I digress, needless to say my upbringing was very WASPY.
Yet at no time ever in my life did I ever hear either one of the people
who there to shape my life ever refer to anyone without respect.
This includes people of other faiths, color and ethnicity.
Once as a young child, and I HATE to admit this, I heard the ” N ”
word used at school. Honestly at that time I did not even know what
the ” N ” word was actually referring too.
I used the word at our dinner table. Even though I used the word wrongly,
it was quickly and efficiently pointed out to me that I would never be using that word again in front of my Gram and my Dad. The heat from my backside
did much to instill in me a relevant need never to utter that word again as well. I also learned that from that point on when I learned a new phrase or word to ASK my Gram and Dad what the word meant.
When I had my children, I raised them both to be as respectful of others
as I had been raised.
FOX news for all its proclamations of ” Christianity ” is anything but.
FOX NEWS is racist, bigoted and hateful coupled with being as far away from what I hope most Americans believe in as Ms. Palin is from that Bridge.

9 09 2008
Laurie

NBC poll just came out. 58 percent think Mccain is more of the same

9 09 2008
9 09 2008
Bystander

From the Minnesota Independent: “Maybe if we had done it right, maybe some of that money would have gone to inspect those bridges and other bridges around the country,” McCain said at a campaign stop in Ankeny, Iowa on Aug. 4, 2007. “Maybe the 200,000 people who cross that bridge every day would have been safer than spending $233 million of your tax dollars on a bridge in Alaska to an island with 50 people on it.”

Just for kicks, I’ll put on a Rovean hat here:
So, McCain points to Palin as having played a significant role in the deaths and injuries that resulted from the collapse.

9 09 2008
mvngfwd

On the Florida/Jewish vote, I can tell you that Palin is NOT sitting well here in Florida. My friend’s elderly parents were all for McCain and then…the announcement changed everything. And as the MSM picks stuff up the resolve becomes stronger. The endorsement by Koch is huge to this group who probably had Mayor Koch as their man in NYC before they moved down here to retire. Even my husband’s father who, yikes!, liked McCain and was trying to dissuade my Rep/Obama man based on tax lies. But we have sent him the link for the taxpolicy site, explained that we are willing to pay 1.5% more for the benefit of the country, and suggested he look a little harder at Ms. Palin’s “business” trips to speak at her former church. I don’t think he will be so gung-ho when he hears about the “Jews for Jesus” stuff. While it might not be proper to consider that, it will still have the impact nonetheless. The MSM media is always slow on the uptake so be patient my Mudpals. Even my usually quiet friends are starting to rally out loud for Obama. Just get everyone to check their voter registration…I know I am being redundant but we only have less than 30 days to make sure it is done right. BTW- CNN is really going on about the bridge to nowhere….

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

ds55- what a power play! she would be the one with the power, and she’d kick them to the curb unless they fell in line.
could you imagine? ralph reed as vp
maybe pat buchanan as sec. of state
dobson – health and human services….
monsanto ceo heads up the FDA

9 09 2008
swineprincess

ABC news just basted SP with her lies… the bridge, the earmarks… we’ll see if it makes a difference

9 09 2008
JT

One vote at a time…

I have been having one on one chats with non-democrat friends, and having some positive results.

Armed with information we’ve learned, and staying AWAY from all the baby stuff.

They have not yet agreed to vote Obama, yet all have said they absolutely will not vote McCain. At least that is a start.

Imagine if we (from now to election day) simply communicated to our friends and family what we’ve learned.

Since I have never been political or a real member of either party, my friends are more willing to listen to what I have to say.

9 09 2008
misskae

Lisa Myers is analyzing whether Palin’s statements are true or not – NBC Nightly News. The Bridge, The Jet, etc. She keeps saying, “but that’s not the whole story.”
Yay!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

mvngfwd (14:34:56) :
any way to get the video’s of palin’s church covered on the local news?

9 09 2008
Amused and Bewildered

Careful –

McCain’s choice is biting back. False claims of banned book list are being dismissed as a slur ‘campaign.’

The more False reports, the easier McCain’s camp will dismiss EVERYTHING as part of a slur campaign.

Get your facts straight.

Amen, drchill!!!! I firmly believe this!! The more things are released and circulated without hard evidence, the more she will sympathetically be portrayed as a victim!!

9 09 2008
drchill

“The Left’s Strategy for Sarah Palin”

” … It would likely be a coup-de-grace for the Obama campaign if McCain was forced to admit his folly in choosing Palin as a running mate.

Now, it seems, the Democrats strategy has backfired. Unable to unseat Palin as the Republican VP nominee, the lingering memory of that first week of attacks has caused the Republican base to rally behind their embattled sweetheart any time the “liberal media” dare question her. While this can be overcome in time, with 56 days left in the campaign, it remains to be seen how capably the Democrats can criticize Palin without further galvanizing her support.

I hope not I think we should Boycott ” Sarah Palin” and instead stay focused on McCain and “McCain’s choice”

http://eco-geek.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/09/1845810-the-lefts-strategy-for-sarah-palin

9 09 2008
Edie

Anyone see NBC News this evening? They reported on Palin/McCain’s distortion of selling the airplane on Ebay, bridge to no where and seems like there was something else.

9 09 2008
no more
9 09 2008
UK lady

Has anybody read a brilliant article posted today by Anderson Cooper of CNN, all about Palins governing of Alaska? the site is AC360, very sorry but I can’t link it as I am totally computer illiterate.

9 09 2008
misskae

If you remember, there were several days that the library situation was discussed on here without a list, and several people said clearly ‘THERE IS NO LIST.’ They clearly said, ‘ There was never a specific request to ban a specific book.’
The fact that the list just started circulating makes me VERY suspicious as to who put it into circulation.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

McCain Launches Sex-Ed Spot; Obama Camp: “Perverse”

The spot, titled “Education,” comes after the two candidates went back and forth over education issues most of Tuesday. It is an attack the Obama campaign should be ready for. The same lines were used against the Senator during his run for office in 2004 by challenger Alan Keyes, and were brought up during the primary by Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

“Obama supported “age appropriate” sex-education for children as a means of teaching them what was proper or inproper touching, as well as to protect them against pedophiles, his campaign has said.”

THE McCain AD SAYS, in part:

Legislation to teach “comprehensive sex education” to kindergartners.

Learning about sex before learning to read?

Barack Obama.

Wrong on education. Wrong for your family.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/mccain-ad-obamas-lone-edu_n_125205.html

grrrrrrrr!

9 09 2008
Harley

My dear new friend UK Lady
To post a link,,,go up into the address bar of your browser,
highlight the link with your mouse,right click it and chosse copy.
Then come on back here and right click anywhere in the posting body
( where you type when you want too comment )
and paste it on in.

There ya go…you now have a link.

9 09 2008
Edie
9 09 2008
Search the Web on Snap.com

NEW STORY JUST POSTED:

I very sick ad endosed by McCain. Basically calling Obama perverse. you can’t mke this stuff up. I feel like i am in a bad dream .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/mccain-ad-obamas-lone-edu_n_125205.html#postComment

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

misskae beat me to it.

The best part of the report was McCain saying that Palin sold the jet on eBay and made money for the state of AK. The truth is that it did not sell on eBay, but rather was sold by a “broker” and the sale lost money.

Also, that she was in favor of the bridge and that by the time she withdrew her support it was dead anyway so she did not kill it.

Yes, she did let the personal chef go but she was rehired by the state legislature.

9 09 2008
Harley

Perhaps you can now teach me how to type? LOL

9 09 2008
Lizzie

Reuters: 22 countries polled all think we should vote for Obama. Brown of the U.K. backs Obama. So what do we need to do to convince the other half of this country?

9 09 2008
Alice

Just realized that my user name was messed up

9 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

AnneinWA –

Hurray, Hurray! YES. And this is precisely what Senator Obama is ASKING us to help him get out. . . he is trying. We have to stop being sucked into the Pistol Packin’ Palin.

I stumbled upon this site and don’t know if you guys have already posted:
http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=53270

You can go here and look up the candidates with their Voting Records, Political Courage (he evidently refused to respond to which issues he’ll support if elected – that agent of change, McCain), and other information. It’s good to be armed with this information.

If we focus on the issues and not the distractions, we can win this. YES, WE CAN!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

david gregory read the obama campaigns answer to that despicable ad re: birth control. it was good, immediate push-back, with facts (it was part of child abuse legislation!) and then a jab:
John McCain said he didnt know what honor is, Now its clear.
(sorry, paraphrase bigtime)

9 09 2008
misskae

AnneinWA:
Lisa Myers also addressed this ‘perverse’ accusation by McCain camp against Obama and said it was completely false. (Why can’t they say THEY LIED!)
Oh goody! Now it’s a report on No Child Left Behind!

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Okay, for those who wanted Barack to fight back:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_Lipstick_on_a_pig.html

9 09 2008
UK lady

Thanks Harley, will try. Thanks also Ediefor trying to help me out but that wasn’t the post I was trying to get to. It was Anderdson Coopers post I was trying for.

9 09 2008
Ana Gama

Check out this article on Huff-Post regarding the national polls and methodolgy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/poll-madness-mccain-takes_n_125158.html

Poll Madness: McCain Takes Lead Even As Democrats Out-Register Republicans?

This week’s mainstream coverage of the presidential horse-race has been dominated by a series of polls showing the McCain-Palin ticket with its first stable lead over Obama and Biden. Gallup’s tracking poll, USA Today and CBS News all show the Republicans with some kind of lead over the Democratic ticket. But, interestingly, all three polls were also conducted using a higher sampling of Republican voters than in July, thus raising a question of methodology.

9 09 2008
Harley

OMG…I thought I had seen it all
These two absolutely must be stopped.

9 09 2008
RLS

NBC just covered the “not correct” claims about the Bridge, the Plane, the Chef. Does not seem to want to call them lies, but did show both Palin and in some cases McCain making the claims then the reporter would explain what really happened. McCain campaign is now saying he misspoke about the e-bay airplane sale. Looks like the MSM is finally starting to look at a few of these things.

Wonder when McCain and Palin will change their TV ads which make some of the claims?

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

The problems with Palin are relevant. They reflect McCain’s judgement, decision-making and temperament as a potential president. All the Palin issues demonstrate failings in McCain’s judgement and decision-making. We all know she wasn’t thoroughly vetted. How obvious is that!

The GOP said they Googled her. Lots of far-right sites had been pushing her for months — mostly under the radar. They say they used clipping searches. Any guesses whether the Wasilla Frontiersman or even the ADN is in Lex-Nex?

He’s the top of the ticket. He’s the one we need to focus on. She’s the shiny object — the Trojan moose. The GOP says this is a campaign of personalities, not issues. For me, temperament is a key componenet of personality. It shows character. I’m waiting for McCruel to blow a gasket for all to see… the debate would be perfect!

Barack has remained cool and unflappable, dispite all the nasty and personal attacks, which will continue. That he was able to beat the Clinton machine says oodles for his strategic thinking and ability to execute a sound plan. They’ve stayed consistent and focused. McBush has been all over the map trying to find that magic something. He thinks Palin is it,. But he’s getting worried — thus, the “truth squad.” Remember, Barack had one months ago!

Barack’s campaign is focused on the electoral vote. That’s where the rubber meets the road, and there he’s ahead. He has a great ground operation going back to the primaries. He’s almost invisible up her in my area — he knows it won’t go blue, but that CA will. So he’s concentrating on where it’ll pay the best return. Plus he has more winnable combinations available than McCain does among the “in play” states.

We can’t let up. But we need to step back, take a deep breath (me included), and look at this realistically. It’s not as bad as it feels.

AKM, how’s about helping us stay focused on McCain? Use the Palin stuff as evidence, not as a shiny object. You’re providing a hugely important service. If nothing else, look at all the friendships that are being created — a true community. That’s nothing to sneeze at. And if my assessment about the campaign is wrong, they’ll be more important than ever.

9 09 2008
misskae

We all heard that over 10 million dollars was donated to Obama during the 24 hours after the Palin speech (starting w/ a challenge on this blog to give DURING her speech!). How much was donated the next 24 hours, during and after McCain’s speech?

9 09 2008
Ana Gama

“How much was donated the next 24 hours, during and after McCain’s speech?”

The campaign has not released any info on the donations during McCain’s speech.

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

NBC Nightly News also said that McCain gets a better reception when Palin is with him and therefore, it would seem the campaign plan has been changed to have them appear together more often. Seems to me that means fewer campaign appearances.

Also, the most recent NBC poll has Obama ahead by a couple of points, but factoring in error, the polls are a virtual tie. I wish I could recall the other comments about the poll but the phone rang and I, unfortunately, answered it! However, the point was that both campaigns are apparently where they want to be in the polls at this point in time. Also, the swing states are down to 9 and that Ohio, VA and one other state – hopefully someone else picked up which one – hold the key.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

misskae (14:51:44) :

I think the confusion about the use of the word “perverse” comes from the reply from the Obama camp whose response was:

“It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

9 09 2008
Bellaboo

We have to educate women who are infatuated with SP- everywhere you go, bring up the subject and wait for their response- and them inform them of her positions- I”ve done this for the past few days and I am amazed that educated women are just smitten with her and haven’t really looked into her platform.
But once they know her positions and lies, they are quick to come back to Obama. Remember, respect, tell only ‘vetted’ facts, don’t distort, but build on the truth. I have to believe that women won’t let this country down. I’ve been waiting for a woman president/vp- but you know what? I can wait longer.
SP- sung to the jon bovi hit You Give Love a Bad Name….”You give chicks a bad name”

9 09 2008
Lulu

Hey, everyone. Here’s my advice on how to win the campaign. (Now, you ask, why should I listen to Lulu? Who the heck is Lulu? Let me see her CV and then I’ll know if I can trust her advice. Here’s all you need to know: I’m an average American, born into a red state, currently living in a blue one.)

McCain readily admits he doesn’t understand the economy. Palin doesn’t either (see her recent economic gaffe for one example, over the weekend, on Fannie Mae, etc). It’s like ’92. “It’s the economy, stupid!” 99.9% of the country is worse off from the Bush years, and these two have NO PLAN to fix it. They have NO economic acumen. NONE. Obama has really done his work and knows his recovery plan inside and out. You can read it on BarackObama.com

Most of us are hurting financially. If we can forego the endless fascination with the McCain/Palin lies and scandals (YES WE CAN), and just repeat the meme about the economy, I know it will resonate with the majority of the other voters.

9 09 2008
UK lady

Got some help from very impatient boyfriend, here’s the link I meant.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/09/sarah-palins-record-on-environment-is-abysmal/

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

RLS, thanks for this:

“McCain campaign is now saying he misspoke about the e-bay airplane sale.”

I could not recall how the campaign couched that statement by McCain.

I noticed that at the beginning of the report the word “truth” was used and while they did not use the word “lie”, it was my take that what they were trying to convey was that certain statements by Palin were not truthful, i.e., lies.

9 09 2008
Chicago Sue

Chris Matthews just awarded his “Hardball Big Number” to Palin for “Thanks, but no thanks, for that bridge to nowhere.” Big Number — at least 7 times since selected for VP.

Its a funny clip, that you can see at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/sarah-palin-bridge-to-now_n_125209.html

9 09 2008
Lulu

P.S. Why will the economic meme work to win the campaign? The one thing that connects all of America, regardless of any other regional demographics or variance: $$$.

9 09 2008
misskae

AnneinWA:
Thanks for posting the complete reply from the Obama campaign. I really wish Lisa Myers would have read the whole thing. It is quite a strong response.

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

I am really hoping that this blog keeps going even after Sarah Barracuda has been sent back to Alaska. I really like the people who post here and it’s nice to have a place where like minded people hang out. The “troll free” nature of this place is also really nice.

9 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Go Obama!

We are now a debtor nation thanks to McCain and Bush. Add the load of Freddy and Fannie, and there is an unspeakable chokehold on not only generation, but our children’s generation.

I have decided to use a play from the Palin playbook, and I admit it’s low, but at this point, I have to take off the gloves and play as they play – they set the rules:

When people say they don’t know who they are going to vote for or if they are undecided, I ask them if they are willing to put my son (insert child’s name) in harm’s way and potentially have him killed for McCain’s “Holy War”. . . that we started btw. . . where there is no proof of MWD, never was. . . and if they are willing to have his blood on their hands by their vote. I don’t care how low it is anymore. . . I have to bring it home to people to at least THINK before they vote.

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

Another point the NBC poll brought out was that while women have moved to McCain because of Palin (God, why??????), MEN have moved towards Obama, just about offsetting the move by women.

9 09 2008
Bellaboo

This is a great blog, but I have to admit, I have spent too much time here- hmmm…it must be hours a day, total so far???? hmmm…checking the updates, the hubby calling from his office upstairs “Darling….check mudflats….which is easy because it is always an open window….I will be on the road tomorrow and won’t have access- arghhhhh…..

9 09 2008
Ky

I just found this news clip from Alaska, on YouTube, regarding the bridge:

9 09 2008
judi

Palin World would be something like Disney World only
Goofy would be killed and dressed rather than being hugged and photographed!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

susie-
i heard the opposite, that men were moving towards mcshame

strange

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Proud2BUSA (14:51:22) :

I agree. It is vitally important that we stay on message and be proud that Obama is doing the same (of course, I think we can cheer when he strikes back – he even does that in a nice way!).

I think we are seeing a convention bump for McCain (OKAY, PALIN) right now. Obama’s positives are high, we are energized, and Palin seems to have riled US up too! I keep telling myself how fickle the uninformed voter is – Sarah will be yesterday’s news soon.

As Chuck Todd said today, 10 days ago she had zero name recognition – today it’s 90%. Some are dazzled by her while others, like us, want to know who she is and what she stands for ( so far, learned she’s SCARY…I DIGRESS!).I have decided to trust Obama to take on the Mavericks. What;s gonna happen to McCain when Sarah goes home? Will McCain be able to draw a crowd? That might be telling! Keep the faith!

YES WE CAN!

9 09 2008
Lizzie

From Politico: Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.
“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”
“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”
“We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

Yeah!

9 09 2008
judi

Visiting Palin World would be something like visiting Disney World only
Goofy would be killed and dressed rather than being hugged and photographed!

9 09 2008
misskae

On Hardball they’re showing video of all the McPalin hugs, and talking about the subliminal message – “a new American Gothic” in the words of Chris Matthews.

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

misskae- heard that too, nauseating.

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

New McCain ad: Obama wants kids to learn about sex before they can read. I have no idea what to say about this one.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/new_mccain_ad_badly_distorts_o_1.php

9 09 2008
zorro

This very simple tool should persuade folks to vote FOR their own interests this November. The calculations are based on the non-partisan Tax Policy Center.

http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

I’m sending this to everyone I know — (even Republicans!) — and asking them to pass it on. Let’s make this go viral.

9 09 2008
misskae

I was heartened though, that he was attempting to analyze it…

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

Susie in Jersey (14:58:26) :
Also, the most recent NBC poll has Obama ahead by a couple of points, but factoring in error, the polls are a virtual tie. I wish I could recall the other comments about the poll but the phone rang and I, unfortunately, answered it!

I found out something interesting today. I wish I remembered where I read it. Apparently the polling companies were including a percentage of Democrats vs Republicans aligned by the percentage registered to vote, before the Republican convention. All of a sudden, after the convention, they are including an equal number of Democrats to Republicans and excluding independents. No wonder the polls all of a sudden changed. They moved the goalposts. Not surprising considering the fact that the polling outfits are owned by conservative corporations like the MSM.

I don’t worry about the polls because the “national average” means nothing. Here’s what counts:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://electoral-vote.com/

And finally, none of the polls (even the state-wide polls) take into account the fact that the Democrats outvoted the Republicans 3-1 in the primaries and that the Democrats are registering thousands of new voters every week.

9 09 2008
misskae

15:17
Troll
Scroll up

9 09 2008
Lulu

I want to start a new pro-Obama-Biden meme: American for Common Cents!

It’s the economy again!!!!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

sometimes its hard to tell, seems like he’s cheering it on, but i guess its a self-interested newsy position. keep it tight and the ratings up

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

misskae (15:07:25) :
“Thanks for posting the complete reply from the Obama campaign. I really wish Lisa Myers would have read the whole thing. It is quite a strong response.”

You’re welcome. I have given up on the media supplying us with the information we need. I also thought Obama’s response to McCain’s vile ad was strong.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

Today’s LATimes, http://www.latimes.com

(BEGIN QUOTE)

Barack Obama attacks President Bush’s Iraq troop withdrawal plan

By Peter Nicholas and Maeve Reston
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
September 10, 2008

View Full Story
DAYTON, Ohio — Democrat Barack Obama today called President Bush’s Iraq drawdown plan “very modest” and charged that Republican rival John McCain would continue “the overwhelming focus on Iraq that has taken our eye off of the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11.”

Bush announced earlier today that the United States would begin bringing home about 3,400 combat support forces — including aviation personnel, explosive ordinance teams, combat and construction engineers, military police and logistical support forces. He also said a Marine battalion in Anbar would come home by November with an Army combat brigade to follow in February, and announced additional troops for Afghanistan.

“His plan comes up short,” Obama said, noting that the largest withdrawal will take place in February, after Bush leaves office. “It is not enough troops, and not enough resources, with not enough urgency.”

Obama faulted Bush and McCain for focusing on Iraq when “the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq and it never was.” He called for a rebuilt military and “a comprehensive strategy to finish the job in Afghanistan.”…
(END OF QUOTE)

9 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

laughing no longer –

I heard the same thing. That men were now siding more with McCain – I couldn’t figure out the heck why until I asked one: “…after looking at Cheney all these years, she’s a nice change….”

Oh golly will THEY EVER start thinking with their…uh….never mind.

9 09 2008
timc

Chicago Sue,

Love the clip. Smart thing for Obama is to stick on message. Let the truth come out and then see how to respond. Wall Street Journal is about a conservative as it gets but they are probably terrified of the idea that this lady could be running the country.

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

misskae: I hope I am not the troll you are referring to. I have been here for days. read my posts before you make unfounded accusations.

what sort of troll would i be?

9 09 2008
UK lady

Correct RhettOrical is a troll, I’m sure I’ve seen him/her on Daily Kos.

9 09 2008
Pinky
9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“Palin World would be something like Disney World only
Goofy would be killed and dressed rather than being hugged and photographed”

Yeah, and Minnie Mouse would be having an affair with Goofy, Mickie Moue’s business partner.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

@Rhett O’Rical (15:17:57) :

Simply read Obama’s response, read the bill that’s referenced…then you won’t have to say anything.

O’s response AGAIN:

“It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,” says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“Its sickening. If you are going to jerk me off, at least, use a kung-fu grip. ”

Love the earthy comments!

9 09 2008
UK lady

Best to just ignore them, they sod off without oxygen.

9 09 2008
White Agate

Asked my Mom what she thought today…she is a closet progressive but married to a very conservative ex-Navy guy, who is great, but…let’s just say we don’t go there at the dinner table. My Mom is intensely practical, and I don’t always agree with her, but I agree more now that I have kids.

Anyway, her first response was, ‘She’s way, way pro-life and anti-choice! That just doesn’t work any more, I mean, how can you tell people not to plan their families. This isn’t the fifties any more. What are they gonna say when or if she has another baby while in office? It ain’t over ’til it’s over if you go down that road.’

Then she said, ‘She’s very attractive and well-spoken. But her life is a mess…a teenager pregnant, a new Down’s baby, and then all the other kids to raise. Why did that girl get pregnant? Wasn’t anyone paying attention? I don’t know what they’re thinking on this one. I don’t know how she thinks she can do it, even with family help.’

Just one opinion, kinda surprised me.

Just one opinion, kind of surprised me.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“Are people signing up to volunteer and go to neighboring swing states? In Texas there is a drive to go to Colorado, or New Mexico. I am going to sign up and go on a weekend.”

I have lots of comp time built up at work, and I am taking a 10-day bloc starting the middle of October to do what Obama’s peeps want me to do (except walk precincts…please, I’ve done my share).

9 09 2008
misskae

Next on Hardball:
I love how Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Congresswoman, FL) kept talking fast and loud over that Peter King guy! Go Debbie!

9 09 2008
galwhohashadenough!

I’ve been around here since the beginning and so has RhettOrical. No trolling on their part. RhettOrical has provided quality information along with every one else here.

9 09 2008
no more

More on Sarah’s adventures as commander-in-chief. http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html Geez the much reviled Frank Murkowski went to both Iraq and Afganistan to visit the AKNG. http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/062206/sta_20060622010.shtml Heck he even got his picture taken in a tank (not just shooting a high tech video game and handing out sunflower seeds to the troops). Although I thought the red t-shirt was a nice touch. Short sleeves on women always go over well in islamic countries. I guess if you don’t leave the base it doesn’t matter. Angelina Jolie even wore long sleeves in Baghdad. Oh hey remember those guys who sold the Yankee Suck t-shirts? They went to Iraq……. maybe they went sleeveless.

9 09 2008
galwhohashadenough!

Hey Politcal Amazon:

I live in Colorado. If you need a place to stay let me know!

9 09 2008
RLS

Looks like the NBC report by Lisa Myers on the various “claims” is viewable on their website. If ABC did a similar story (see post above) it may also show up on the abcnews.com website.

At the moment, I can’t get it to play, maybe because the site is swamped??

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

proud2be- they never will stop thinking w/ their pants,
but hopefully this time it will be with the pocket

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

Ana Gama (14:52:32) :
This week’s mainstream coverage of the presidential horse-race has been dominated by a series of polls showing the McCain-Palin ticket with its first stable lead over Obama and Biden. Gallup’s tracking poll, USA Today and CBS News all show the Republicans with some kind of lead over the Democratic ticket. But, interestingly, all three polls were also conducted using a higher sampling of Republican voters than in July, thus raising a question of methodology.

This is why I am not worried. If you include another 10% of one party and their polling goes up 7% then I guess what it really means is their polling went down 3%.

The polling companies are cooking the books. Before the Republican convention they included proportional numbers of Republicans and Democrats based on registration. Now they are including and even number. Of course that’s going to skew the poll. The other thing they are doing is not including independents.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“We have to educate women who are infatuated with SP- everywhere you go, bring up the subject and wait for their response- and them inform them of her positions…”

Great idea! I think all we have to do is let them know that when she was Mayor of Wasalia they charged rape victims for the rape investigation kits. The practice was only ended when a State law was passed that made it illegal. Even then, Palin’s hand-picked police chief said he thought the new law was wrong.

Right there you know all you ever need to know about Sarah Pain’s feelings towards other women, and what kind of treatment women can expect if Sarah Palin becomes VP or president.

9 09 2008
sheesh

Zorro,

The Obama Tax Cut Generator is a great tool! I just wish it was named something more generic as it gives the impression that it might be biased even though there’s wording on the page to indicate impartiality.

9 09 2008
galwhohashadenough!

I don’t know if this has been posted…here’s the McCalin’s new ad. It literally makes me ill…Obama has got to step up here! This is one unfair attack:

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Obama, Dems sharpen personal attacks on Palin

“On the stump, not a single word that comes out of her mouth – or not a single word that the McCain folks put in her mouth – is anything but a lie,” wrote TPM’s Josh Marshall. “I know that sounds like hyperbole. But just go down the list. None of them bear out.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13315.html

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

UK lady: I have NEVER posted on Kos. The only other place I have posted is Wonkette. oh yeah… also on topix where the meanest things were said to me because I am from San Francisco.

I have lived in San Francisco my entire life–all 44 years. I met my first republican last year. I am so friggin sick of these right wing “troll” talking about my town. I suppose you do not like something about San Francisco as well.

In fact, Palin mentioned SF again today. Did she mention she was coming here and is charging $50,000 to have her picture taken with people.

This is the only safe haven I have found on the internet where I felt free to post. So much for that notion. I thought Americans were the intolerant ones. There goes that idea.

NEVER call people trolls until you read their posts. I have dedicated my life to progressive causes. What about you?

I will go cry now about more intolerance…

9 09 2008
Harley

I wish I had the funds to join you Amazon, because I would SO be there.
But I have a new grandbaby coming in January and I am saving to go home to the States for a few weeks to be with my daughter.
I have already donated over 500.00 cumulatively to the campaign and plan on donating a few more times before Nov so an extra trip to the States is beyond me right now.
But I am very proud of you,

9 09 2008
Ohio Sue

The sex ed ad is despicable. Honestly, I think McCain would do just about anything to be President – no honor, no integrity, just blind ambition.

9 09 2008
White Agate

And I know that’s crossing the line into somewhat ad feminem attacks, but it just goes to show you never really know what a particular woman is thinking. And certainly I am not the first one to make that observation!

9 09 2008
Kate Henry

I heard something today that made me think. Someone needs to ask McCain and Palin what will be the penalty for a doctor giving a woman an abortion or a woman getting an abortion after they overturn Roe v Wade. That’s actually a good question to ask someone who is anti-choice. I mean, think about it. They would be defining abortion as murder so the penalty could be death. Would they advocate the death penalty for a woman who had an abortion because she was raped or was a victim of incest? Would they give the death penalty to the doctor? Or how about a doctor who performs an abortion on a woman who would die without one. Because if Roe v Wade is overturned, there will be no exceptions, even to save a woman’s life. Because if you make exceptions, you invalidate making it illegal.

9 09 2008
nikki

i’m not sure i have a complete grasp on the whole national guard thing. but isn’t it true that UNTIL 2007, the national guard was under command of the governor. but in 2007, because of the katrina disaster, federal authority over the guard was expanded? and even before 2007, wasn’t the president able to pull the national guard in wartime? i don’t know…i am certainly no military expert…that’s just my understanding of it…am i wrong?
and i read an article on newsweek from factcheck.org “debunking” many of the “rumors” about palin. i kind of trusted factcheck…is it still trustworthy?
i almost think i need to just tune all of this out as i’ve become completely obsessed (had to tune out during the primaries eventually for the same reason). it’s almost impossible for me to discuss anything else anymore. all i can say is…President Obama: God Bless America. President McCain: God HELP America.
good night, friends.

9 09 2008
UK lady

RhettOrical, I apologise profusely, there was a RhetOrical on daily Kos, must be using same tag. Very sorry.

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

yes, rhett is no troll…
btw, i love sf! i miss it.
used to spend a lot of time in bolinas too.

i called pelosi’s office today. i think that they took s-chip off the table is weak weak weak

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

Rhett O’Rical is not a troll. I think it was a misunderstanding, UK Lady…

9 09 2008
misskae

My apologies.

9 09 2008
zorro

Well, media in Alaska are doing better on the “bridge” issue than the corporate media whores in the lower 48…

9 09 2008
Lulu

To paraphrase John Kerry: “It just goes to show you how craven they are.”

McCain is craven. Palin is craven.

9 09 2008
Deb

I agree with a number of others here who have said that introducing Sarah Palin has caused a huge DISTRACTION for everyone (including us).
Yes, it is good that some of the questions about her have come out so that we can evaluate her as a VP candidate, and more will come out as this goes on.
But, given what she herself has said, and given the information that has, and continues to, come out about her, the kindest thing we can say is that she is a NON-candidate for the VP (and certainly a non-candidate for stepping in to be president).
Having said that, our goal is for people to vote AGAINST MCCAIN. It is McBUSH who chose this non-candidate, it is McBUSH who is trying to fool the American people with her, it is MCBUSH who has twisted the truth for political gain, and it will be MCBUSH who takes the PRESIDENTIAL election from OBAMA.
In talking to our fellow voters, we need to stay focused on that, be armed with FACTS, and remind them that McCain IS a republican by this selection stays true to BUSH like he has in the past. Don’t let Rove make this about personalities! Stay on facts about issues!

9 09 2008
willpen

The REAL John McCain. ‘5’ Videos everyone needs to see !!!!!

Spread the word………GET INVOLVED !!!!!

http://www.willpen.wordpress.com

http://therealmccain.com/squad/?utm_source=rgemail

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

i have this lovely directory from People For The American Way that has every senate and congressional phone and fax.
i use this all the time.
call your reps, you almost* can’t call too often
they keep tallies on every call and issue

pelosi isn’t my rep, but she’s my reps leader, so i bother her too. reid too.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

I just sent the following letter to the editor of our local paper. As much as I love you all, we’re preaching to the choir, the already converted here. The people we need to reach still read newspapers — at least some do. They don’t read these blogs very often, and we don’t often haunt the ones they do. Write, speak up, talk to people. Around here I don’t expect many people will be moved to vote for Barack. But they might be moved to vote for Bob Barr, or to write in Ron Paul. In either case, that’s as good as a vote for Barack.

Sarah Palin is Karl Rove’s newest shiny object. Her selection as VP nominee was brilliant. It calls attention away from the abject failure of the policies of the last eight years. Endless war, a military stretched nearly to the breaking point, broken promises to our military veterans, the evil twins of the mortgage and credit crises resulting soaring foreclosures plunging property values and rising numbers of bank failures, rising inflation and unemployment, stagnant wages, appalling numbers of Americans with inadequate or no health insurance to cover rising medical costs, retirement funds evaporating for millions of baby boomers just as they approach retirement. Add in a seriously damaged international reputation, the assault on the Constitution, the seeming celebration of ignorance, obstructionism on climate change and most people think were in a bit of a mess.

Many applaud McCain’s choice of a woman as VP nominee. I’m delighted to see women rise to the top. But if this is the best qualified GOP VP candidate, then God help us. Were Palin a man, I seriously doubt she would have gotten a second look. To have selected her is both cynical and sexist.

Study John McCain’s voting record. Then decide if he truly represents change. If you’re better off than you were eight years ago, if you like the direction the country is going, by all means vote for John McCain. But if you like so many Americans, are struggling as a result of those policies, the same ones John McCain supports, don’t be taken in by the shiny object.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Rhett O’Rical (15:36:07) :

I too apologize if my response to you was snippy. Seems nerves are raw these days, but still no excuse on my part.

BTW – I was born in Richmond, CA and raised in the Sacramento Valley. So…talking about San Francisco is like talking about home to me. However, we all know the right-wingers use that city as a symbol of ultra liberalism – equal rights can be threatening to some!

9 09 2008
Diva

Great diary at dailykos by a wounded vet who is pissed-off at Megan McCain’s stupid comment. Read it and pass it around~

“This is not a simple mistake or a gaffe, this is a freudian slip and it gives us an insight into how Sen. McCain feels about the service of those of are not him. Sen. McCain has shown us by his voting record that we don’t matter.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/9/19014/97611/267/592654

9 09 2008
Harley

I am taking a political break for at least one hour to watch the new show
” FRINGE ” on FOX. I am a long time science fiction nut.
See you in a bit mudflatians

9 09 2008
UK lady

Come back Rhett! or do you just not give a damn? That was a joke in case you think I’m being horrible again. I have never been to SF but I think it looks wonderful. I did read all the Armistead Maupin books though, does that count?

9 09 2008
Deb

EXCELLENT letter, Palmdale…can I copy and use it?

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Political Amazon,
My Obama supporting and very involved son lives in Albuquerque area. They have an extra bedroom. Lemme know if you end up going there. I’ll put you two in touch.

9 09 2008
Anonymous

The full ratings are posted in several locales, but here are the headlines:
Rachel drew 1,543,000 viewers in total at 9 PM last night. Not only was that better (by 160,000) than Larry King, but it was the second highest number of total viewers in Primetime, not counting Fixed News.
Modesty precludes me from saying who was ahead of her on that list.
The “advertisers’ number” – the number of viewers aged 25 to 54, were also outstanding. 483,000 of the so-called buyers’ demo tuned in, again, beating Larry (by 100,000) and second for any primetime show not on Fox (and she even outdrew Shepard Smith’s 7 PM audience over there at The Zombie Channel).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/9/181015/2799/311/592602

9 09 2008
NoCalGal

I think my last post went into the black hole.. sorry if this ends up a duplicate…

1) What is the Canadian press saying about all this? They are closer to AK than the lower 49. Anyone know?

2) Two interesting articles about the power of liberals (YES!) and a recent Obama rally wherein he chastises the attempt by SP/MC to denigrate the Constitution. Powerful stuff! GO OBAMA! Take it to them…

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/opinion/09herbert.html?_r=2&em&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/08/obama_to_palin_dont_mock_the_c.html

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Palmdale, CA (15:47:54) :

Excellent letter…perfect strategy!

9 09 2008
Laughing No Longer...

anon- thats great news re: rachel
i was concerned after the matthews/olbermann yank on the news coverage

9 09 2008
Mil

judi (15:13:46) :

Palin World would be something like Disney World only
Goofy would be killed and dressed rather than being hugged and photographed!

~~

If I’d read that a half a second sooner… Milkshake on my laptop. Judi… *bows to the humorousness*

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Bill O. is bragging about Keith O. and Chris Matthews being taken off their anchor duties at the conventions…ick! He’s says it’s an admission of corporate corruption at NBC.

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

Palmdale,

Over the last hour or so I’ve been composing a letter to the editor of our local papers and was going to suggest that everyone here write such a letter.

Yours is much better than mine would ever be. I echo another poster in asking “may I use it?”

9 09 2008
Raingods

Annie-I never thought I would say this, but I think O’Reilly is right about that.

I feel dirty saying that.

9 09 2008
Laurie

What the heck is this about the 50 person “truth” group that has been named by the McCain campaign to push back the things being said about her.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Deb
My initial response is “Sure.” My next one is a hope that you’re not in SoCal. It might just cause an embarrassing situation. I have an amazing track record of getting letters published, and I don’t want to do anything to tarnish it.

My suggestion and preference would be if you altered it a bit. Pick the issues that are key in your area. We have a significant defense presence here — military plus military aerospace. Also, we have over 12,000 homes currently somewhere in the foreclosure process and home values have fallen about 40%. I tried to find things that most people can relate to, regardless of party affiliation.

9 09 2008
Deb

Thanks, Palmdale-
No, I’m in Colorado, “seat” of Focus on the Family and the Religious Right. I will change it up a bit before using it, but thanks so much! Gives me a wonderful “start”.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Raingods (16:06:50) :

I can’t disagree with you, HOWEVER, do any of us believe corporate corruption is the soul property of NBC???…yes…I guess Bill O’Reilly can! Being fair and balanced, he woudl know🙂

9 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Political Amazon,

….and Pooh would have raped Twinkerbell who has to pay for her own rape kit….

….Pumba would be digging the oil well, while Eeyore just asks: Why bother?

9 09 2008
Raingods

I want Walter Cronkite back!

9 09 2008
Laurie

To Anonymous….are you Keith????? Its ok you dont have to tell. Good heaven…there is some good news after all.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Susie in NJ and any others with similar thoughts, please see my response to Deb.

The more we can get that sort of thinking out there, the better. Show people women aren’t taken in. And get men thinking from above their shoulders.

9 09 2008
ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck

the truth squad is the strangest thing i have ever seen in all my life. the woman on the list that comes from my home state has her own scandal that she rose above. is this a list of scandal hardened women politicians? or are most of them straight up and just republican?

clearly none of them have read the legislative record on the PPT and the AGIA that is still (that i am aware of) available for perusing on the alaska legislative website.

i read the alaskan legislation and i don’t even live there. i read the USGS/Alaska powerpoint presentation regarding natural gas potential prepared in support of the natural gas pipeline. i read the strident plea by the ex-Secretary of Interior claiming the TransCanada pipeline was a huge mistake. i read the documents that show that TransCanada cannot build the pipeline without the agreement from the three pissed off energy giants. i read the problems with the treaty between canada and the native alaskans regarding construction in the ANWR and surrounding region. i read the issues related to canada’s ability to exchange oversight for access to natural gas so that canada can use ANWR gas to produce from the Alberta oil tar sands. i read about the litigation on the lease that alaska oil and gas commission is trying to yank from exxon/mobil cause of inactivity on Point Thomson gas field.

and i read slide 22 of the USGS/Alaska powerpoint to the Alaskan legislature prior to passage of the AGIA that shows clearly that TEXAS has more proved natural gas reserves than wyoming, colorado, the Gulf, and most of Oklahoma combined. and that Alaska is ranked less than all those states and louisiana. so why in the world would an energy company go all the way up to the coldest, wildest part of the planet to produce gas for alaska? cause the profit isn’t there.

so what is all this about saving the US from dependence on foreign oil?

yeah i read that too.

and i read about a zillion of these blog entries here and elsewhere – pro and con – that range from incredibly astute to a pathetically veneer understanding of “what is going on”.

and now the truth squad is gonna come get the “dumpster divers” ???

well, bring it on. let’s go dumpster diving on the response to public comments pdf file that is not available on the PPT legislative webpage. let’s go find a whole bunch of real files that are gone gone gone. let us please go to google and sort through the barrage of search results that bury the truth.

thank god for youtube and those people that understand the concept of share the wealth (information). i am quickly learning that myself.

crap on a stick. this country is in the few hands of people without morals or self-control.

9 09 2008
Samantha

People, this is serious. The Republicans are getting down and dirty. They just released a disgusting ad saying Obama is for sex-ed for 5 year-olds! A lie!

History has proven over and over again that these smear/scare campaigns do work.

History has also proven that Americans vote for candidates that they can sit down and “have a beer with”. Remember that one? The same thing is now happening with Sarah Palin. “Who cares about issues… she’s a great gal and she likes to hunt!” As ridiculous as that may sound… that’s what many people vote on.

This blog is great and informative, and it’s a great place to vent… but you have to be ACTIVE or McCain/Palin will be elected.

Do something! Donate to Obama’s campaign and volunteer to register new voters!

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/content/splashsignupcky/

9 09 2008
A.P.

Here is what happened in Northern Virginia today. Dems are fired up and do not welcome McPalin. They were forced to move their event to a park.

http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=15821

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Thanks Anne, UK and Sarah Sorry I was so sensitive. I guess all the mean posts on the topix site really bothered me on a deep level. The hate, idiocy and just general cruelty on some sites gets to me I guess. So thanks for being nice about my emotional reaction.

Annie: where are you in WA? My parents grew up in Alameda (housing projects but were kicked out when the military moved in) and when later met, married etc moved to SF because it was the only place they could afford to live. lol. I really like WA.

Laughing: Bolinas! The world’s best unknown town! lol. If i drove a car, I would love to go there once in a while.

UK: they filmed Tales of The City in my neighborhood. You have to rent Streets of San Francisco tho!

In some ways, living here my whole life I do feel sort of helpless about what I can do to change people’s minds in other places since most people here think like me. Well–I guess not in some places in the Bay Area — Silly-con Valley where the Palin show is going to be held next week.

Other than writing letters it is hard to figure out how to approach this election. I did phone banks for Obama on CA election night. I think the headquarters might do phone banking to other states, so I might try that.

I have written to Boxer and Pelosi. For some reason, the only emails I ever get from them is about earthquake preparedness. They know end times are coming! However, I think Code Pink has a pemanent tent in front of Pelosi’s mansion.

Well–thanks for the support guys! This is the best blog out there.

9 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

did anyone watch rachel maddow on msnbc last night? i caught her show online at msnbc.com today. very smart woman that rachel. hopefully, her show will be well received. she talked about palin’s church and questioned whether palin believes in the separation between church and state. she showed the clip of palin asking her congregation to pray for her pipeline. i imagine she’ll take on the “money for nothing” issue tonight. not sure if “how to get promoted” can be covered with the current investigations going on.

9 09 2008
Mil

Sorry for the delay on this, I was on the phone:

Rhett O’Rical is NOT a troll. Not not not not not a troll.

9 09 2008
A.P.

From the Washington Post:

———-

McCain Rally to Move From Fairfax School After Outcry

By Michael Alison Chandler and Tim Craig
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, September 9, 2008; 4:45 PM

Fairfax County school officials said that a rally scheduled tomorrow for Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, will be moved from Fairfax High School, following protests from some School Board members and parents that the event would violate school system policy.

The decision to move the event was made by the McCain campaign, Fairfax schools spokesman Paul Regnier said.

Late in the afternoon, the McCain campaign announced that the rally will be held at Van Dyck Park in Fairfax County and that people will begin assembling at 8 a.m. An e-mail from the campaign said that the Fairfax High field house, which can hold as many as 6,500 people, was not big enough.

A statement from the McCain campaign did not address the controversy.

“Due to the overwhelming response from voters in Virginia, the space at the field house at Fairfax High School will no longer be able to hold everyone who wants to attend this rally,” the campaign said. “We have had double the amount of people respond than we originally expected. In order to accommodate everyone, we need to move the event to a location we are working on now.”

Superintendent Jack D. Dale’s original decision to allow the political rally at the school led some board members to say this morning that he had overstepped his authority. The board’s bylaws forbid campaign events to be held on campus during school hours.

“Only the School Board has the authority to override a policy,” said board member Kaye Kory (Mason). “We did not agree. We did not vote. We didn’t discuss. So this is a violation of not our only our policy, but our procedure.”

She and other board members said they received dozens of e-mails and phone calls from Fairfax residents who were disappointed or enraged by the decision to disrupt the school day with a partisan event.

Dale said in an interview last night that he made an exception to the policy because he thought students would learn a lot about the political process. He also had granted permission to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) to hold a town hall meeting in July at Robinson Secondary School while there were some arts activities taking place at the school.

McCain campaign officials said last night that they had arranged the rally with school and Fairfax City officials. Fairfax City owns the high school building but contracts with the county to operate it.

Some city officials had been caught off-guard by Dale’s decision as well. Fairfax City Council member Daniel F. Drummond, a former chairman of the city’s Democratic committee, said he called the mayor and school officials this morning to protest the location of the rally.

“The city of Fairfax has a long history of trying to minimize partisanship. . . . Unfortunately, what has happened here is we know have partisanship where it shouldn’t be,” said Drummond, who also plans to send a formal complaint letter to the superintendent this afternoon. “The superintendent of schools of Fairfax has infused partisan politics into the city of Fairfax where it is unnecessary, unwarranted and unwelcome.”

———–

9 09 2008
breakingnews

Hi guys!

Man you all talk alot, lol!! Whew. Just finished reading the afternoon posts.

I posted this here this morning, but it’s worth a repeat. This is McCain in his own words. Spread it around!!

9 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Samantha – I agree with you. I’m exhausted. I was so frustrated last night, that I took a day off to volunteer and do some talking up of my own. I just got back with in after walking my dog with some of my neighbors who were tittering back and forth about Sarah Palin. I have tried very hard not to get into these types of arguments with neighbors and friends and just tell them we have to agree to disagree. However, tonight, I guess I’m just tired, I couldn’t stand it any longer. I asked if they were okay if a mandatory draft was enacted and some of the children in our neighborhood died from this, how would they feel? NO ONE, NO ONE WANTS TO PERSONALIZE their vote. My question is WHY NOT? At the end of the day, it is our collective vote and the electoral college who decides our leader. Your one vote DOES count, and if that is not more important than an additional $50 in your tax bill then I guess I am more alone than I thought.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Samanatha
Thanks. I just donated. Again. Second time this month. And, believe me, money’s tight. We can eat beans. It’s that important!

$30 will get you an Obama Biden tee shirt. Show your support!

9 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Correction – I try not to get into this with my known Republican friends. Independents and Democrats are fair game at this time!!😉 Sorry.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

@ A.P. (16:18:44) :

Thanks for sharing the good news from Virginia!

9 09 2008
producer

mudflats:

please post pictures of alaska legislators wearing “where’s sarah?” buttons.

for those unfamiliar, find the LAtimes story from yesterday here:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-palinstyle8-2008sep08,0,6185940.story

i can’t find any on google images or in the (few) stories about this that are available.

many thanks!

9 09 2008
Bystander

On CNN/Campbell Brown, Jeffrey Toobin and others are making the case to Bay Buchanan that there is a difference between a strategist and journalist.

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

LOL, I love how the school said, “It’s against our policy,” but McCain’s camp said they just ran out of room because of the “overwhelming response” from voters. Of course they didn’t say if those were Obama or McCain voters.

It’s a wonder anyone can walk properly on the Straight Talk Express with all of the spinning they do.

Pfft, remember the “Straight Talk Express”? Talk about the wheels falling off THAT bus…

9 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

They mention on Hardball about her charging the state a per diem to live in her home, as well as $10,000 expense for her daughter Piper. A 7 yr old with $10,000 in expenses…give me a freakin break!!!

KO is talking about it as well, so I know Rachel will be doing the same!

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

Thanks, Palmdale. Yes, I will edit it to suit the area where I live.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ A.P.
Wouldn’t it be great if the park was filled with Obama folks?

If you’re in Fairfax Co, VA, be there way before the park opens! Fill it up. No boos, no applause. Just silence. Remember the two guys who just stood there while Bush waved at them as he got off Marine One? (You probably won’t be allowed to bring signs.) Or shout ’em down. Drown ’em out. Wouldn’t it be a great cause to be busted for? Even Cheney’s goons couldn’t ultimately stop the person who respectfully objected to his policies in a public plaza in Vail. They actually tried to bust the man for “assaulting the VP!” For respectfully voicing a differnt view. Is this still America?

McCain = Bush
Palin = Cheney

Now, there’s a thought to brighten your day!

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

Thanks, Palmdale. Yes, I will edit it to suit the area where I live.

I keep getting a message that said I already submitted this message which I didn’t!!!

9 09 2008
Harley

@ Palmdale, my son lives in Albuquerque as well.
6 degrees and all that

9 09 2008
Enjay

I am wondering why “the First Guy” is on stage all the time when SP is giving a speech. Has he become a member of the secret service?

I don’t see the Dem’s spouses on the stage at every speech.

9 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

So, I hear Ron Paul is backing a third party candidate and will announce it tomorrow at the national press club. Did anyone else hear or read that?

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Doesn’t McCain (I think Bush has done this as well) have a history of holding “forums” in school auditoriums? If the kids are required to be there, the auditorium is full. Nothing better than a captive audience. This way there is no embarrassment about all the empty seats. McCain had a hard time unloading 10,000 tickets for his veep debut party. This gathering was also done at a school facility.

9 09 2008
Lizzie

I’m a disabled single mom. When I made my monthly donation to the Obama campaign, my 12 year old son asked me to chip in his Sept. allowance. It’s a big deal since he’s been saving for a Wii forever. Every little bit helps.

To those who are concerned about preaching to the choir here….I don’t think of it that way. This site is an excellent source for “ammunition” we can use to educate friends, relatives and neighbors. I’m also grateful for all the excellent ideas….hadn’t thought of sending letters to local newspapers, but will now.

Thanks, all.

9 09 2008
fawnskin

has anyone seen photos of the palin children during the campaigning?
not to get things stirred up. but just wondering where they are.

9 09 2008
breakingnews

So McStain is pandering to the pedophiles?? How low will he go??

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“McCain’s got a team of “fixers” running around Alaska as we speak, putting out Palin brushfires.”

Are they using water hoses or bags of money to put out these fires?

9 09 2008
Laurie

Nancy….you are correct. Rachel Maddow is a Rhode Scholar. They dont get much smarter. I would love to see her interview Palin or McCain

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

A quick question, Palmdale – should I send the letter to only one newspaper or to the several daily and weekly papers that serve the area where I live?

Depending on Palmdale’s response, I will post what papers I am sending it to so that others from NJ who might be of like mind do not send to the same papers.

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

A quick question, Palmdale – should I send the letter to only one newspaper or to the several daily and weekly papers that serve the area where I live?

Depending on Palmdale’s response, I will post what papers I am sending it to so that others from NJ who might be of like mind do not send to the same papers.

Again, the duplicate post notice!!!!

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

Rhett O’Rical (16:21:38) :

I live in Western Washington, “on the road to Mt. Rainier” – about 50 miles south of Seattle. Our family has lived in WA for 30+ years now, so I’ve grown accustomed to the long, rainy winters, and springs, and often summers…

Although Washington, like California, is a fairly liberal state, I live in a rural community where Obama signs and supporters are not welcomed. Most of our neighbors are very conservative, as is my husband and his family, so I am very careful about how I approach the subject of politics with them. Sometimes, my husband and I simply agree not to talk about the candidates (so nobody gets hurt :))…think we might be representative of the country?

9 09 2008
antiAnti

“… even in cases of rape or incest…”

Finally got it through my head that Gov. Palin is _PRO_ choice. The _rapist_ is the one that gets to choose.

I field-tested this line on several chance encounters today. I feel that it got some people thinking.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

“So, I hear Ron Paul is backing a third party candidate and will announce it tomorrow at the national press club. Did anyone else hear or read that?”

Well, there’s this article:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/09/ron-paul-plans-special-announcement/

Also there are a few articles where Barr and Paul seem to be working together.

Let’s start chanting right now “Bob BARR!, Bob BARR!” I’ve said since Barr announced his presidential intentions that he would be an excellent alternative to the many Republicans who won’t vote for McCain and who would probably not vote for Obama, either.

I have retired Republican friends who feel this way, but they really like Bob Barr, even if he is a little quirky, because he is basically a Goldwater Republican.

McCain and Palin are Neocons, and old-school Republicans have become alienated from the Neocons.

I don’t see any of the others as much of a diversion for McCain-Palin. But Bob Barr–YOWZER!

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Susie: Where are you in Jersey? My husband’s entire (large) family is there and I could have them write letters if you think it is a good idea. What papers/areas do you think are in the most need of our views?

9 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

OK, what is going on? I hit “submit” and get a duplicate notice post, then I add another line, hit “submit” again and my post is accepted.

However, I’m sure you’ve noticed that there are, in fact, duplicate posts from me, for which I apologize. Don’t know what is causing this.

Let’s see what happens when I try to submit this.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Harley
We just may need to keep in touch — it’d be nice to meet before I have to ask you to sponsor me. 😉 Actually, son is in Rio Rancho — same difference. There used to be lots of transplanted New Yorkers there, the ones who didn’t move to South Florida. I suspect they’ll not be real happy with some of the things coming out of Palin’s church. Koch might be useful there, too. Don’t know how the demographics have changed over the past decade or so. That’s Heather Wilson’s (R) district. She just barely won last time around. The current Sen race there (for St. Pete’s seat) shows Udall up by 8. Yay! Obama was clearly ahead before the RNC, so we’ll have to see how the next polling goes.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

[Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”]

I LOVE that because it rephrases the plagiarzed hockey-mom/pitbull/lipstick comment at the GOP convention–that SO delighted the feeble-minded GOP voters–and turns it into a lipstick-pig statement.

9 09 2008
Connie

I’m rarely speechless, but I am. So I’ll give you a quote instead:

“Sometimes the fluffy bunny of incredulity zooms round the bend so rapidly that the greyhound of language is left, agog, in the starting cage.” — David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas

9 09 2008
Sarah in CA

I’m pleased to finally be seeing more of Palin’s (I keep typing “plain,” heh) ridiculousness in the headlines. I mean, pleased in the sense that maybe the press is waking up to the lies. Not pleased because I realize this woman isn’t going to just slip into obscurity like a fart in the wind.

Anyway. This is pretty funny. Still political! But good for a short break.

“Unger Report: Do You Have Political Dementia?”

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94386579

9 09 2008
galwhohashadenough!

Hey big shout out Deb! I from Colorado too..are you in the Springs then? I live in Denver..

I have to say today has been one of my lowest days as far as the McCalin’s go. A new level of lies, a new level of erasing negative information, FactCheck’s less then stellar Fact Check sheet they did on Sarah. It’s nice to be able to come here for comfort, moral support and motivation.

Thanks everyone! You all are great:)

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Susie
Good question. And I have a ready answer. So here are some thoughts of the top of my head.

Do the readerships overlap? If so, probably not; and certainly not the same letter in case more than one got published. I submit only to our local paper; my views are amply represented in letters to the LA Times! Besides we have a much more liberal letters policy up here, if I can use that word. The Times restricts you to one every so often. Not so with the local. It probably doesn’t hurt that we’ve met the local letters editor. Both of us write — I do it more often because I have more time. At least I did before Mudflats.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Susie

TYPO ALERT. I mean to say I don’t have a ready answer.

9 09 2008
AnneinWA

@Political Amazon (16:54:53) :

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

Apparently the Mcain campaign complained about Obama’s “pig” statement today. The laugh seems to be on JohnnyMc – he used the same line against Hillary during the campaign!

Larry King is just now coming on and the subject is Sarah Palin

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

[“What the heck is this about the 50 person “truth” group that has been named by the McCain campaign to push back the things being said about her.”]

Apparently, they are all women. What I figure is maybe these were 50 Wasilla women who were raped and still owe Palin for the rape investigation kits.

9 09 2008
whichferret

Wow she is making Cheney and Bush look like amateurs. Wow! The cronyism is just like something you would read about in history books. Seriously, this is like the old days with the big monopolies and guys havin to walk around with big sticks and crap like that. Or am I the only one that paid attention in class those days?

9 09 2008
ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck

hey zorro (15:18:13)……….that link to the tax calculator has a link on the bottom of the page that sends you to homepage of alchemytoday.com which is a blog that has a blog entry that shows some kind of weird track back to other weird sites related to obama fakes…. don’t forward crap like that.

vet first for crying out loud. that is the issue of the last 11 days…..

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

[@ Political Amazon,
My Obama supporting and very involved son lives in Albuquerque area. They have an extra bedroom. Lemme know if you end up going there. I’ll put you two in touch.]

Thanks, Palmdale! I live near San Luis Obispo, but I don’t care where they send me. If it’s Albuquerque, I’d appreciate the referral!

9 09 2008
antiAnti

Time article titled: Sarah Palin’s Alaskonomics by Michael Kinsley

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839724,00.html?xid=rss-politics-cnn

The opening line begins “Sarah Palin thinks she is a better American than you …”

Wonder if that makes the grade for “respect and deference”?

9 09 2008
lemonfair

Joy Behar was just on Larry King live making some things clear about SP. LK played the tape of her saying the war was God’s plan and asking people to pray for the pipeline – you know the tape I mean. So this stuff is getting out there. Larry King is probably still to air for most of you, so you could catch it.

I really, really, like this blog. I post on another site where people are less kind and not as inclined to share their feelings. It’s nice to find so much community feeling in such a short time.

9 09 2008
Phil

Heard that Obama is meeting with Bill Clinton-wonder what that’s all about? Do you think Obama’s having second thoughts about not picking Hillary as his veep?

9 09 2008
sauerkraut

With all due respect to John McCain and his experience as a POW, and I hate to be the only one saying so – but… how can he know anything about war, aside from the view of someone shot down and as a POW, if his job was to fly a jet at altitude and drop ordinance or fly protection??

Airplane pilots do not have to face the minute-by-minute task of flying metal, grenades, artillery or vietcong booby traps. The grunts on the ground do not get to fly back to a secure carrier at sea between missions. For the people on the ground, every second is having to face the hell of getting shot to pieces.

In short, how can his daughter now claim that no one knows war like John McCain?? Tell that to the 58,000 names on The Wall. And tell that to the 100,000+ who left physical pieces of themselves in the dust and mud of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Tell it also to the other POW’s from Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. Tell them that they do not know war as well as numbnuts McCain.

9 09 2008
Cassie

Here’s a thought….everyone is baffled by the recent polls. Were more Repubs polled? What about all the new Dems registered?

I have a different “poll”.

It seems to me that businesses, across the board are fighting to get into the line marked “Government Bailout” before Dubya exits the stage.

This unscientific poll indicates to me that Fannie, Freddie, Ford Motor Co., Lehman brothers (and all the rest of Wall Street), banks, airlines, etc. can see the writing on the wall. There is a reason that they are all so anxious to get their government bailout RIGHT NOW.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised that Haliburton and Company lines up for a bailout. (The oil companies already made sure they got theirs, at the pumps.)

Guys, stay collected and committed. They just want you to doubt and get discouraged. This is the time for ordinary citizens to get their government back and corporate America has felt the winds of C H A N G E.

Go Obama/Biden. Can’t wait to vote you in!!!!!

9 09 2008
sauerkraut

Phil – no second thoughts. But he might be trying to see if Clinton has settled down and gotten over his wife not being the nominee.

Frankly, it’s still weeks until the election. There is much to still do and so much more that will happen during the next several weeks.

And I eagerly look forward to more mudflats posts with all those hundreds of helpful and spirited comments from so many who view this election thru the same rose-colored lenses as do I. Keep up the good work, mudflatters… and keep those breaking news items coming!

9 09 2008
coryshubert

Hey, it seems the rest of the world would prefer it if Obama won as well..

Obama win preferred in world poll
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm

9 09 2008
BobbyG

New at the Unauthorized McSame Store:


🙂

9 09 2008
Diva

Phil, Bill Clinton is a two-term, democratically elected, former president whose approval ratings, despite the continuous attacks of the “right wing attack machine”, were in the high 60’s when he left office.

Why WOULDN’T Obama want to talk with him?😉

9 09 2008
sauerkraut

Cassie – you are onto something but reality might be just a tad different.

I’ve noticed, or think I’ve noticed, shifts in the confidence of the stock markets. When McCain/Palin seem to gain ground, the markets get gas. The unease, it seems, is related to economic issues. And we all know that McCain don’t know squat about the economy. Palin probably knows even less. It’s back to the days of the George HW Bush presidency when that old geezer didn’t realize that it was all about the economy.

Time for Obama to really press the case that it’s all about the economy. And that McCain is too damn stupid to handle it.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ sauer kraut
I’d say that’s another letter to the editor. Go for it! That’s the way vets need to push back.

9 09 2008
Connie

@Diva Exactly, Bill Clinton is a resource and we need all the resources we can get. Granted, he was a bit of a loose cannon during Hillary’s run, but you listen to as many people as you can who’ve been through the smear tactics and learn what you can.

9 09 2008
Cassie

Sauerkraut..
Business–always looking for the quick buck–will respond in a fickle fashion to a Republican bump, no matter how hopeless. They can then sell off.

What I’m talking about is the big, long term commitments that Ford Motor (today) Fannie, Freddie (week-end) et. al. are looking for. They want a guarantee that they’ve got the money because they know that there will be oversight conditions required of an Obama administration.

9 09 2008
Harley

@Palmdale
OMG My son lives in Rio Rancho too
He is in the Air Force…stationed at Kirtland

9 09 2008
Just-A-Thought

Another possible explanation for Sarah Palin’s ill-considered actions before during and after the trip to Dallas: Could it be that she was trying to induce a miscarriage? And thus solve the child disability problem without compromising her strong pro-life “principles?”

9 09 2008
sauerkraut

lolz at you folks up at 16:52 with the pig in lipstick.

New joke: what’s the difference between the current Alaska governor feeding at the federal trough and a pig?

The lipstick !!!

9 09 2008
sauerkraut

Just-a-thought: what you suggest would have made Secessionist Sarah a murderer. There is a huge difference between an abortion and inducing death. Big difference.

9 09 2008
grateful in OH

Hope this link works it’s a Time article highlighting bloggers on Palin and Mudflats is on it …

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839586,00.html

9 09 2008
Deb

hi gal–
Sorry for the delay in responding to you, had to go to a meeting for a bit. I’m actually in aurora now, but lived in Colorado Springs for a VERY long time (moved up here 3 years ago). I can say political climate in Denver metro is much less depressing than Colorado Springs.
That said, depite the leaning to Democrats in the last election, with Palin stirring up the religious right, this election will be much harder. So with the convention being here followed by announcement of Palin, it has felt like a roller coaster!

9 09 2008
Lauren

“Lipstick on a Pig, Still a Pig”
is the headline on the Drudge Report today with a nice picture of Palin over it. BEAUTIFUL!
Obama is coming out SWINGING!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-says-mc-1.html

Obama Says McCain Is Offering Fake Change:
‘You Can Put Lipstick on a Pig, But It’s Still a Pig’
September 09, 2008 6:10 PM

LEBANON, Va. — “That’s not change,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of what Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is offering.

“You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”

The crowd rose and applauded, some of them no doubt thinking he may have been alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called ‘change,'” Obama continued, “it’s still gonna stink after eight years.

“We’ve had enough of the same old thing! It’s time to bring about real change to Washington. And that’s the choice you’ve got in this election.”

Obama added that “it is not going to be easy … John McCain has a compelling biography, you know Sarah Palin is an interesting story.”

The crowd booed.

“No, she’s new!” Obama said. “She hasn’t been on the scene, you know, she’s got five kids and my hat goes off to anybody who’s looking after five. I’ve got two and they tire Michelle and me out!”

— Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

UPDATE: Obama senior adviser Robert Gibbs insists the senator was not referring to Palin. “That’s an old expression,” Gibbs says.

9 09 2008
Catherine

Check out this post – it’s the only one that has come close to why, as a late-30’s woman, the pick of Palin is patronizing and offensive to me.

http://aabw.blogspot.com/2008/09/dangerous-sexism-of-political-chivalry.html

She’s McCain’s trophy “wife” (and he should know!) – not chosen for her education, not chosen for her experience, not chosen for her intelligence, not chosen for her outlook – chosen because she isn’t experienced enough to not take the lead from the man, thus non-threatening, and chosen because she is perky, young, and attractive. Picked for looks, not for talent. How can you get any more sexist and old-thinking than that?!?

Her pick points out the same old Republican position – yes, women are fine in positions of power, but as long as they don’t have too much power, are attractive enough to be eye candy for the old men, and are only feisty in a “cute when she’s angry” kind of way – and as long as they know their place and don’t try to rise above the station of the men – the ladies mustn’t get uppity, don’t you know.

9 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Harley
Hokey smoke! That’s now down to about 4 degrees. Especially since while living there I worked as a contractor at Sandia Labs (also on Kirtland!).

I’m thinking that perhaps we should encourage AKM to set up a members-only Yahoo group for us Mudpups. Their membership list function would allow us to add names, contact info/email addys. Those of us who are willing to host campaign workers could get that solved w/o bothering the campaign. What say AKM? S/he could send invites to everyone who expresses interest, and let us do the rest offline. Maybe there’s a better way that wouldn’t involve so much initial effort, but I’m not aware, especially for those of us who don’t yet have our own blogs. Soon, soon. I’m just pondering how to do it so I can include my other interests…. Not sure politics mixes with a needlepoint blog!

9 09 2008
Diva

I LOVE that Palin/McCain (yes, the order is deliberate) is freaking out over Obama’s lipstick comment! He really stuck that PIG!

As they say on Law & Order, “But your honor, she opened the door on lipstick!”

9 09 2008
Cassie

Here’s another thought about my “economic poll”.

Months ago, Haliburton moved to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. We all thought that the move was made to get out of the reach of the IRS.

You will remember that the United Arab Emirates once offered to take over the security for America’s ports and the notion was quashed. (That might have been a good solution for us, but that’s off-point)

Today, it was announced that we are selling several million dollars worth of THHADD(sp?) missiles to the U.A.E. ( capable of reaching Iran, blah, blah, blah)

I have some knowlege of the U.A.E and parts of the Middle East, and I know that they do NOTHING for themselves that they can pay someone else to do for them…that’s what the staggering amounts of oil money ( read, also Alaska) can do for you.

What other “moves” are in process?

So, not only is corporate America lining up for long term commitments, but Middle East nations are doing so, as well.

9 09 2008
Kathy

About Meghan’s remark: I think she may have meant “among the presidential candidates.” To be much more fair than they deserve. The real question to me is “So Meghan, you believe that only military have the right to be president?”
(and there is the awkward “but Meghan, that was his FIRST family! You weren’t around for the whole war/anxiously waiting for POW Daddy to come home thing.”)
The sins of the father should not fall on the child. Unless the child makes snarky, ignorant we’re-so-much-better-than-you remarks.

9 09 2008
John

There is no federal recognition of a state national guard three star general. Palin may have well appointed him the emperor of Nome for all the good it would do him or her. It’s all ego. Nothing more. If the general were federalized he would immediately revert to two star rank. And believe me, his peers would think he was rank.

9 09 2008
Cassie

…that’s several Billions!

9 09 2008
Ky

OH gawd, the republicans think the lipstick on a pig comment was about Palin.
You KNOW McCain knows that expression!

9 09 2008
DeMo

The 527s are coming! The 527s are coming!

Rachel Maddow reports that the Obama campaign has given its go-ahead to the 527s to respond to the McCain smears.

Ordinarily, I don’t condone the negative thing, but it simply can’t be avoided. When enough mud hits you, you can only wipe it off so many times before you throw some back.

Fling, baby, fling!

9 09 2008
tonya

Fox News “accidentally” airs controversal right wing ad that it had declined to run.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/22/fox-ayers-ad/

The right-wing American Issues Project has spent $2.8 million on an ad questioning Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) relationship to William Ayers, a founder of the 1960s radical group Weather Underground. American Issues Project had hoped to air the controversial ad on Fox News, but even the conservative network refused, reportedly wanting nothing to do with it:

American Issues Project, the sponsor of the ad, is a nonprofit 501(c)4 organization. One of its board members, Ed Failor Jr., was a paid consultant for McCain’s campaign in Iowa last year. The campaign paid his firm $50,000 until July 2007. American Issues Project spokesman Christian Pinkston said Failor has no connection to the McCain campaign now.

Organizers sought to air the ad on Fox News Channel, but a Fox spokesman said the network declined to run it. He would not say why.

This principled stand fell by the wayside today when Fox News accidentally aired the most of the ad. During a segment about Obama’s ties to Tony Rezko, Fox News attempted to play McCain’s latest ad on the subject. However, the Ayers ad began playing instead.

After the ad was almost done, correspondent Molly Henneberg looked confused and said, “This is not the right ad.” Shep Smith replied, “It was an ad. Come on, give us a break. It’s busy back here today

Election experts yesterday raised concerns that this ad may violate election law. Laura MacCleery of the Brennan Center for Justice told Huffington Post that the ad is clearly “express advocacy” and “cannot legally be paid for with corporate money, including those of a non-profit.” In response, the American Issues Project has agreed to disclose its individual donors to the FEC.

9 09 2008
kimbers

Oh the fake outrage… Lipstick on a Pig indeed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/9/194017/6489/219/592702

9 09 2008
Lauren

Obama Video:”Lipstick on a pig, still a pig”

9 09 2008
Aussie

My dear Mudflateers/Mudflatters/Mudflatians/Mudpups and AKMuckracker

When I first came across this blog a week ago I was literally stunned. For two long years I have been hoping to find a place on the internet where intelligent Americans (rather than smart-asses) hang out. I’ve *loved* reading you all.

I’m sure none of you have any real idea of how much damage the Bush administration has done in, and to, the rest of the world. Let me not count the ways – I have something else I want you to think about.

It’s no secret that the 2000 election was stolen. How did it come so close in the first place? By dirty Republican tricks – by a hundred different ways to prevent people from voting Democrat, ranging from ridiculously difficult-to-understand but easy-to-misinterpret voting “systems”, by removing potential Democrat voters from the electoral rolls, by setting up logistical ‘roadblocks’ ….. and they will have a whole suite of new tricks up their dirty sleeves this time, now that there is a real threat! I’ve already read that there are dirty tricks afoot with students registering to vote on campus.

I would like every one of you to make it your business to find out what is really going on in your own electorate in terms of dirty tricks. Infiltrate if you must – I don’t expect it will be easy, but it’s vital that no Democrat voter is caught on the hop.

If you live in a safe blue seat, now is the time to plan a visit with your Democrat cousin in a swing state and help out where you can make a difference. Make demographics work for YOU.

Registering voters is the first thing. Getting them into the polling booth armed with the resources to register a valid vote is another thing entirely. Be in a swing state on election day. Help the local Democrat organization with the ‘heavy lifting’ – drive carloads of voters to the polling booths, coach them in potential pitfalls in the voting “system” – and get them there early enough so that a long queue won’t be an impediment.

Before you go, load up on whatever generic campaign materials you can get – don’t leave anything to chance. I’ve read that voting early may already be subject to dirty tricks, so I can’t comment on that.

You all have a deep love for your country and for your fellow man. If that’s all you have to give – give it all. Be a community organizer! It worked for *us* recently in the most important Australian election of our lifetime – we only just made it into a cleaner, saner, more humane world, and it was the ‘nuts and bolts’ stuff that got us over the line.

You have no idea how important this election is on a global scale. If McCain wins, you’ll find out. The U.S. with the buffoon at the helm was at first a figure of fun, then of derision, now of contempt with the recent elevation and celebration of trailer trash motherhood.

I have a bumper sticker left over from the 2004 U.S. election, which says ‘FOUR MORE WARS!’ Today it goes on my car. It’s all I have to give.

9 09 2008
Hannah

I’m wondering if this guy is legit. If he is, he has some startling news about Palin. Check it out.

http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-sixten-palins.html

9 09 2008
Deb

Cassie-
Have you read about the Project for the New American Century? It is an organization that Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, and others “active” in the current administration belong(ed) to. Was founded back in 1997. One of the goals in their mission statement was “to establish a stronger presence in the Middle East” This was in 1997!!!!!!!!!
So it really wasn’t GOD”S plan that we got into Iraq! I read up about this group shortly after Bush was elected…and BEFORE 9/11.
If you want to read more I recommend going to their website, not Wikipedia. Read some of the older letters and statements…and you will see MANY familiar names!

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

9 09 2008
lulu

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/behold-the-mccain-palin-t_b_125233.html

Did you all see this? Our AKM is now national! Congratulations, AKM!!!

9 09 2008
plwalsh

Well the polls are flipping around again. Now Obama is moving ahead. It is getting harder and harder to believe them.

I heard an interesting segment on NPR’s”On the Media” today (downloadable from iTunes) about the polling this year. Several experts spoke. The bottom line is that the old methodology isn’t really working. One of them pointed out that, in the primaries, some polls undercounted Obama’s support by as much as ten percentage points.

9 09 2008
Harley

sorry Palmdale was watching Olbermann

I would LOVE the yahoo thing

I have seen many places mentioned where I have at one time lived.

My first husband worked for GE and were transferred due to his job
which afforded me the opportunity to travel and live in many parts of the US.

This would be so nice.

9 09 2008
Ky

Yay, AKM! Congratulations to you and your boots!

9 09 2008
Diva

Deb- “So it really wasn’t GOD”S plan that we got into Iraq”

I’m sorry all, but Sarah Palin would not know God if he bit her on…….er….if he came up and shook her hand!

She is just the latest patsy who has been flattered by the horrid Powers That Be in the GOP into thinking she’s “God’s Gift” to humanity, here to save us all! She disgusts me!

9 09 2008
Gene

A laugh from Huffington Post:
An Open Letter to Sarah Palin, from God
by Lisa Penn, HuffintgonPost.com
Posted September 9, 2008 | 04:17 PM (EST)

—–

Dear Sarah,

I was enjoying my usual decaf extra-foam double latte this morning when a quote in the New York Times caught my eye. It was deep down in a story about you and motherhood.

After months of reflection and prayer, friends say, the Palins, who are Christians, had come to believe God had sent them Trig.

Later that day, Ms. Palin sent an e-mail message to her relatives and close friends about her new son, Ms. Bruce said. She signed it, “Trig’s Creator, Your Heavenly Father.”

Listen, Sarah, honey. Did I complain when you claimed the war in Iraq was “God’s plan,” even though I knew all along — thanks to my omniscient all-knowingness! — that there were no weapons of mass destruction there?

Did I send down thunderbolts on your head when you announced in church that I supported building a gas pipe right through Alaska, my most beautiful state? You may think it was easy to create that gorgeous wilderness, sweetie, but it’s a lot harder than it looks. Don’t be fooled by that seven-days creation thing. I am all-powerful, after all! If it had been easy, I’d have done it in an afternoon, then gone out for sushi and chardonnay, like I normally do on Monday nights.

But this time, Sarah, you’ve gone too far. Writing an email and signing my name to it? Do you really think I’m looking for a ghostwriter? Look at what happened the last time around, when I thought I was dictating a simple, clear-cut plan for spiritual living, and instead those darn scribes screwed it all up, writing that self-contradicting mess called the Bible. I’m still trying to straighten all that out.

Speaking of which, quit trying to straighten out the gays! Like we need more heterosexual guys wandering around the planet, knocking up 17-year-old girls. Oh, whoops. No offense!

Anyway, no more sending out emails in my name, okay? Didn’t you stop to think that, if I had actually sent out that birth announcement, I would have gone to the trouble of using nice stationery? I’m God, after all! Not to be obnoxious, but I can afford it, okay?

Oh, and by the way. Yes, I did send Trig to you. Not on purpose, but because that was the number the celestial lottery turned up. So, yeah, you can claim that special bond between us if you’d like. Just like that special bond you have with the clerk at the 7-11 when your scratch card turns up a win.

And listen, I’ve got one more bone to pick with you: “Trig”? Really? This is the name you choose for a gift from God? Suppose the New Testament had begun with Matthew, Mark, Luke and… Trig? Let us now turn to the book of Trig! Maybe we’ll read something big! Like a parable about a pig! Come on, Sarah. Show some judgment here.

All right, that’s it for now. But I’m sure this won’t be the last time we’re in touch before the election. I fully expect you’ll be praying like crazy for help just before your debate with Joltin’ Joe Biden on October 2. Just remember: God helps those who help themselves! Ha! That line cracks me up every time. If you’re helping yourself, what do you need with me, anyway? And then I can play a couple more rounds of golf or go windsurfing, as I like to do on Thursdays.

Good luck, Sarah. Oh, and lay off the polar bears, okay?

Love,

God

Cc:

Jesus

Holy Ghost

9 09 2008
pam

Just heard on CNN – Palin did not try to ban books…that’s all they said about it !! – WTF

9 09 2008
DeMo

Aussie said: You all have a deep love for your country and for your fellow man.

Here’s the thing, Aussie. For the last 8 years, I haven’t had a deep love for my country. Obama ignited my passion. THAT is why I’m voting for him. I don’t agree on every issue, but I agree with the vision he offers. I like that with Obama as prez, America would belong to the people again. What a novelty that will be.

That’s why I’m so invested in this election. I can actually envision an America that makes me proud to say I am American.

I live in NYC. It’s a given that NY will go blue. My vote, in essence, means nothing, but I can’t wait to vote. After I cast my ballot, expect to hear my cheer of joy Down Under.

9 09 2008
Cassie

Deb– I’ll check it out tomorrow, way too tired tonight! Thanks, at least it confirms what I have witnessed in my own life wanderings!

All–

I FINALLY KNOW why Sarah Palin NEEDS to be Vice President—- she’ll finally get some decent help (Secret Service) to help control those kids!

Good night, all….snzzzzz

9 09 2008
Harley

Quote of The Day

Keith Olbermann on why the Iraqi people are not appreciative of Mr. Bush

” Thank You President you Killed My Cousin ! ”

You go Keith Baby. I Love ya !

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Deb/Cassie: thanks for bringing up PNAC. i read the entire document and it is pretty scary. it is fairly easy to skip to the relevant parts. are you familiar with scott ritter? if not, he is the former U.N. weapons inspector who complained about the whole “WMD” theory. he has great insight about the war lie and global hegemony. i am way too brain dead and bummed out to get into all this. ritter has written a few books, has been on many radio/tv shows. wikipedia (i know) is a good place for links to some of his writings and his bio.

here is just one:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0309/S00146.htm

9 09 2008
Bystander

I didn’t catch who said it, but the idea was that the Obama campaign was being or getting to be “thin-skinned”.

It struck me as something like when a player throws back and is flagged, though they weren’t the one who committed a foul in the first place. Similar to how Biden is getting called out on stem cell research with cries/whines from the McCain campaign that the comments target Palin, who, as everyone knows, has a special needs child.

Given the apparent climate of the press (Campbell Brown’s/CNN roundtable talk making a distinction between strategist and journalist, the “deference”, etc., etc. themes), I’d say keep up the aggression and the issues, hand-in-hand, leading the talk of the campaign, but not being sucked into the blur without responding. It’s very transparent, call it out whenever possible.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

[On CNN/Campbell Brown, Jeffrey Toobin and others are making the case to Bay Buchanan that there is a difference between a strategist and journalist.]

Good heavens. What is Bay Buchanan doing on CNN? She’s a LOON, I mean truly. There seems to be a pattern of instability in their family (her brother, not Pat, once broke into a WJ Clinton affiliates garage and bashed in his car, and Pat himself, although usually professional, can get really agitated and GO OFF on air), and I question the wisdom of bringing Bay Buchanan into such a stressful situation.

9 09 2008
Political Amazon

[I heard an interesting segment on NPR’s”On the Media” today (downloadable from iTunes) about the polling this year. Several experts spoke. The bottom line is that the old methodology isn’t really working. One of them pointed out that, in the primaries, some polls undercounted Obama’s support by as much as ten percentage points.]

I’m telling you, the fact that most polling groups aren’t spending the extra funds to include people who don’t have land lines but cell-phone only, is missing a huge bloc of Obama voters. Overwhelmingly, young voters are backing Obama and the majority of young voters don’t have land-lines, but use cell-phones as their primary phone connection.

9 09 2008
Ky

I don’t think Biden did anything wrong! He didn’t say Palin was a parent of a child with special needs, but rather was referring to the fact she was throwing her support behind families with special needs children. It was one of the main points of her speech, how is that unfair?

9 09 2008
unlikely_burrito

DeMo

Thank you for your post. I have had a full day of listen to people who don’t have a clue, and it is very refreshing to hear your passion.

Vote Obama / Biden 2008 for a better world!
peace~

9 09 2008
Deb

thanks Rhett-
I will definitely read it when I’m more rested. Like I said, having read about PNAC years ago, it continues to amaze me how well their plan has come (and is coming) together!

9 09 2008
Lulu

Does anyone know? Are all the new posts of AKM going to be on Huffington Post (like this new one on the truth squad–
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/behold-the-mccain-palin-t_b_125233.html)?

This lying thing Palin and Mac are doing now is really out of control! Pinnochio McPalin!

9 09 2008
Diva

One of Scott Ritter’s better presentations concerned the right-wing desire to “nuke Iran”. You know, McCain’s little ditty, “Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb bomb Iran”.

He asks the audience to “Pick your city! Will it be New York, Los Angeles, Boston? Pick which one you want to lose”, because the terrorists will want an eye-for-an-eye deal. They will nuke an American city in retaliation.

The guy was eerily prescient about the no WMD. I believe him.

9 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

somebody tells us about that meghan stapleton who is always defending palin flower in aklaska. I see her on CNN all the time.

9 09 2008
pam

ok, cnn went alittle more into book thing – but really, i felt it was kinda dismissed, and to me – book banning, even toying with the idea – is scarry

9 09 2008
Ky

CNN is now reporting on Palin’s poor environmental record!

9 09 2008
Diva

Biden was awsome and exactly correct in his statement. It goes to her policy, which is against stem-cell research, which can help children with genetic defects. Biden is correct in accusing Palin/McCain of being somewhat disingenuous in their so-called “advocacy” for special needs children by withholding stem-cell research.

Man, me really thinks the “lady doth protest too much”.

9 09 2008
Divatalk

Hey people,
I see everyone is a live and well tonight. Okay, since I don’t do doom and gloom and I believe the race is just beginning to start, I wanted to share some things I’m planning.

1. I decided to have a fund raiser of my own.(since I read the Obama campaign had not yet met expectations) I created a couple of goodies for you to buy and display while you are talking to your friends and family. Go to my blog and let me know what you think if you’d like something.
a ‘”Jesus Was A community organizer T-shirt and tote bag
a It’s the “issues” stupid! T-shirt. I have a few other items coming too.

http://www.helloworld.com:80/global_frameset.aspx?target=myworld&ID=sbntvlive&section=blog

2. I’ve contacted the Obama campaign and teamed up with the some of the people in my state (I’m in a blue state too in Maryland) and we are heading to PA since the need help there. I was planning to go to VA because they need help there as well.

3. I’ve signed up to contact my neighbors in MD. The campaign will give you a list of voters in your area to call and also train you what to say to them on the phone. They have also requested help for calling in VA.

4. I am the host of my own internet TV show and usually I do info on small business and business ownership issues. However I am planning some shows on the campaign and getting people to voice their opinions, their information links on the issues, as well as FACTs people should know about. Keeping it real. People can text chat with me as well as call. The website is http://www.smallbusinessnetworktv.com and the call in nbr is number is 712 432 3000 pin 462467. Hope you guys will check it out.

So if anyone has any other ideas they would like to share with the group and how we will counterpunch this deal, pls let me know and let’s make it happen. Let’s not get mad, just get going!
Diva

My next show will be at 800pm est. tomorrow night.

9 09 2008
Mollys Mum

I’ve changed my mind. It’s Palin all the way for me. 😉

9 09 2008
JenaGG

McCain gutter strategy may backfire. People are gonna realize soon enough that he’s playing political games while there are serious issues at stake.

My mom, who would be likely to vote for a Republican due to her social conservative views … can’t STAND this republican ticket. She could’ve easily gone for a pro-life ticket … but she’s actually voting AGAINST her social stance because they are so ugly … inside & outside. That entire team doesn’t care about Americans and the issues that we face … all they want to do is maintain their power in Washington, DC. And they will do or say absolutely anything to win.

McCain’s latest ad proves the level that he’s willing to sink and please believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. People are gonna begin to get frustrated if they keep this negativity going. At this rate this country will be in all-out war by November.

9 09 2008
Deb

well- I do think that by about mid-october, if not before, people will tire of hearing “poor sarah” stories, and start looking for some talk of ISSUES from their campaign. what on earth will they do then?

9 09 2008
portland oregon native

Hi all,
Loved the video Molly’s mum!
I am feeling more hopeful tonight after getting emails from the Obama campaign with all sorts of good sugestions and ‘the five you tube videos’.
Also Keith and Rachael on MSNBC and some of the msm are all over the lies and distortions.
Get to work folks.

9 09 2008
fawnskin

ok. now how do you tell people that factcheck.com is not really doing a very good job. i post on another site where the “facts” of palins book banning, creationism, etc. etc. were thrown at me via their source: factcheck.
sheeeesh.

9 09 2008
Deb

sorry..one more thought…if she’s a “pit-bull” and a “barracuda”, why the need for a “squad” to protect her?

9 09 2008
galwhohashadenough!

hi gal–
“”Sorry for the delay in responding to you, had to go to a meeting for a bit. I’m actually in aurora now, but lived in Colorado Springs for a VERY long time (moved up here 3 years ago).”””

Hey Deb, I would love to connect with you in some way. I want to help Obama win this thing. But, I hate going places alone. So, if you want to meet let me know and maybe we can help each other get the word out here in the metro area.

Hugs to a fellow champion of the good cause.

Terri

9 09 2008
plwalsh

Everyone does seem to recognize the cell phone problem in skewing poll results. The interesting thing I learned today was that apparently most of the polling companies aren’t dealing with it at all yet— it is something they will have to come to grips with “in the future.”

In the “On the Media” segment, a former Gallup executive said that if polls were really honest, they would report that about 60% of respondents said, in effect, “I don’t know what the hell you are talking about.” Ignorance apparently the biggest unreported factor in polling data.

The head of fivethirtyeight.com was on explaining how his methodology does not use traditional polling at all, but various probablility analyses based on past event. He is predicting Obama will get 300 electoral votes.

Certainly the polls lately have been very contradictory, e.g. some polls are noting a huge shift in women voters, especially white women voters with children, to McCain; other polls pick up no shift at all.

9 09 2008
Quiet Advocate

I heard CNN’s review of Palin’s claims. I thought it was quite weak, after all that I read. One thing that bothered me was that I had believed that she cut special ed by 62% but later read a somewhat complicated explanation of the funding she did…that she did it quite recently. I don’t remember the link. Does anyone know? I want to make sure that the information I keep is correct. CNN seemed lost that they’re getting comments from both sides, Palin’s side complaing about the attacks on her, and the other side, complaining about the lies. It is information overload for most of us. If Factcheck.org is biased, who is doing a more thorough job?

9 09 2008
ds55

Deb: I wondered the same thing when Hillary was running.

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

It’s too bad I came in so late on this thread because I have something IMPORTANT that I hope everyone here will read.

This is not just another same-old same-old. This is something that we all need to face and if we do….Obama will win.

A taste of this observation from the Brits: “The Palin nomination could still misfire for Mr McCain, but the liberal reaction has made it a huge success so far. To avoid endlessly repeating this mistake, Democrats need to learn some respect.”

HERE IT IS

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl
9 09 2008
Deb

back @ you terri-
I’m definitely into doing all I can to get obama elected. was thinking of going to one of the headquarters here to see what I can do. I’m actually registered “Independent”. Have thought about changing to DEM this year, but have found it works better in talking to people to be able to say I’m independent. (most years previously I really HAVE tried to vote independent of party)
Anyway…maybe once I check on what we might do, we can DEFINITELY work together, Obama needs Colorado’s electoral votes!!!

9 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

i have to take a break. sorry for the self pity, over posts and general malaise. i always like the if i had wheels i would be a bus scenario:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-piper/what-if-gov-palin-had-bee_b_124206.html

what sort of christian inhales that deep?

9 09 2008
fireweed

Hello Friends, I now have time to become politically active. Feel free to share this with any and all. Thank you for reading this!

An Alaskan Woman’s Perspective on Sarah Palin

I am Mary A., age 55, from Fairbanks, Alaska. I wish to voice my strong disapproval of the choice of Sarah Palin as the Republican Vice-Presidential Candidate. I expressed total disbelief when McCain selected her, as did most people in my life. Never in my wildest dreams had I considered her to be even remotely qualified to be our nation’s vice-president, much less our president should that ever be the unfortunate case. I have chosen to write down my thoughts and concerns and to share them with other voters in our state and nation. I want people to know what an Alaskan resident thinks about this choice and why. I have lived here for 30 years, and yes, my family enjoys many activities in the outdoors and in the wilderness. We own guns, we hunt, we fish,we enjoy moose burgers and caribou and salmon and halibut. We pick blueberries and cranberries and harvest gardens. We have sailed in Prince William Sound, the Gulf of Alaska and in Southeast Alaska. We have hiked and kayaked in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and other wilderness areas. We are active citizens, always vote, have raised two children here, and are proud to live in Alaska. But Governor Palin would never be our choice vice-president.

Yes, she was a mayor of a small town in Alaska with a small population of under 7000 during her tenure. She was elected with less than 700 total votes. Now she is the governor of our state which has less than 700,000 total residents, and has been so for only 18 months. She was elected with a total of 114,697 votes. Slightly over 239,000 people voted, the lowest voter turnout since 1990. You know, 17 cities in the U.S. have populations greater than the entire state of Alaska! Being Governor of Alaska is like being mayor of a U.S. city where only 239,000 people voted! She’s been learning about government in a small isolated town, and in a state with a small, and isolated population. A small population base makes for a small and often less selective candidate pool. Her experience from a national and world perspective truly is miniscule. It does not make her ready to be a major player on the world stage.

The more I have learned about this candidate since her selection, the more concerned I have become, both about what she is and what she isn’t. Many of my friends, both male and female, have echoed my concerns. Her characterization of her few government accomplishments is disengenuous to put it lightly. She has reaped the benefit of state coffers that are nicely in the black simply due to the state’s royalty share of oil profits. Outrageous world oil prices have given us a budget surplus, not policies from Sarah. She has not had to balance the budget or overcome deficits. She has actually increased our budget considerably. She has not cut our taxes. Alaska does not even have an income tax, nor state sales taxes. What taxes is she talking about? She was definitely for the “Bridge to No Where” until the very last minute and Alaska has kept the money allocated for that project. She has been an active supporter of other earmark funds as well. I am concerned about her national misrepresentation of herself.

During the last year and a half our state has been getting to know this new governor. Her relatively high approval rating may well be due to the “honeymoon” effect of her short tenure to date. That “honeymoon” was starting to end, however, since even before this VP nomination. Questions had already been raised by Alaskans about Palin and her professionalism and judgment. Topics that were already newsworthy concerns even before this selection include: unprofessional and disrespectful talk show behavior, rocky relationships with other elected women in government, and actions against government employees based on personal vendettas. However, most people were still giving her the benefit of the doubt, or, having been so busy living and working, they had paid little serious attention to state government or to Sarah. Plus, of course, when state coffers are overflowing and both permanent fund and energy assistance checks are in the mail (totaling over $3000 per person), constituent approval is understandable.

I do not ever want to be for or against a candidate simply because of age, race, religion, or gender. I do not want to vote for a candidate simply because I can “relate” to him/her. I can relate to many of the parents of my children’s friends. I can relate to women who have been soccer moms, hockey moms, homework moms, PTA moms, orchestra moms,…… as I have been. I can relate to the women in my thirteen year old book group. I can relate to people who enjoy singing, and dancing, and music. I can relate to my coworkers and colleagues. I can relate to these people in my life, but I don’t want to select any of them as my vice-president or president simply because I can “relate” to them. So far Sarah has not let me know what she truly thinks and believes about important issues. During her speeches, she simply replays what she said at her convention speech. I can only assume that she wants my vote based on gender, her religious views, her less than honest portrayal of her accomplishments as small town mayor and governor of a state with a small population, and because she can deliver caustic jabs at her opponents.

Despite her assertion that she is for honest and transparent government, she is apparently not willing to be transparent as a vice-presidential nominee. She has not yet answered any serious queries by the press so that I can get to know more about her other than Alaskan issues and “scandals”, her family matters, as well as her views on abortion, sex education and contraception. I want her to answer serious questions so that I can learn her views on important issues and about why she believes she is prepared for this position. The fact that she has hired a lawyer in regards to “Troopergate” makes me wonder how upfront she wants to be with this ethics investigation. Or, does she just want to stall this inquiry until after the election?

I want any candidate I vote for to be one of the best thinkers and decision-makers our country has to offer. I want them to be someone who can be respectful, who can unify, who can consider all sides of an issue, who can listen, who can evaluate, who can learn from the past. I want a candidate who can be respected both from within our country and from without. I now know that Sarah went to five colleges and then graduated with a degree in journalism and a minor in political science. I would like to know more about her background as a serious student and a deep thinker. If her grades were good or if she participated in university level organizations, this would be one way for me to know about her intellect. I have not yet seen a release of her GPA and most colleges where she attended can’t remember much about her. I want to hear her speak intelligently and “off the cuff” on many issues before I know whether she has the intellect for national office.

So far, most of her comments and her demeanor in the national spotlight have been sarcastic and divisive. This is not what I want in a national leader. She has been praised for becoming McCain’s “pit bull” and talking tough. But you know, if she can talk tough, she needs to truly be tough. Why isn’t she talking to the press on her own? Why is she able to dish it out yet is afraid to take it? The fact that McCain’s campaign says she needs to get ready to talk to the press, that she needs to prepare, and that the press needs to treat her with “deference” only shows me that she’s not ready to be on the national stage on her own. This is not what I want in my vice-president or possible president. She needs to be ready to face some truly formidable characters in many different regions of the world, with very high stakes at risk. How can she be ready for those sorts of confrontations if she can’t even “face” her own country’s press? How can she say she is for transparency in government if she refuses to open herself up to the press? Whether or not she has been under scrutiny for her personal life, she can’t hide from the press. She accepted this scrutiny when she accepted the nomination. Believe me, even more intense scrutiny comes with the job, even more than when interviewing for the job. How can I continue to interview her for this job, which is what I believe a campaign is about, if she won’t even answer my questions via “the press”? If she is elected, will she also feel that she has no obligation to speak with the press? Scary thought. As a woman, I want a female candidate to believe in herself and to feel confident and comfortable talking to the press. She is letting the McCain campaign treat her as a “fragile flower” even as they use her as their “pitbull”. A strong and confident woman would insist on talking to the press for herself. If she can’t handle this scrutiny, or this pressure, what will she do in a national crisis?

The more I learn about Sarah Pallin, the more I believe that she has not put “Country First” when she accepted this nomination. Sarah has not been honest about her accomplishments. She has not been realistic about her educational preparation. She has not been realistic or transparent about her knowledge and preparation for dealing with the national economy. She has not been realistic or transparent about her knowledge and preparation for dealing with world affairs. She is not ready to face her own country’s press much less world leaders and the world press. She is not prepared for this important national and world position and SHE SHOULD KNOW THIS! Is she flattered by the nomination and unable to see beyond her ego that she is unqualified? Is she complicit in realizing that she is not qualified yet is simply being used as bait for the religiously conservative fundamental and female votes? My conclusion is that Sarah is in this for Sarah. She’s willing to sell our country out for the glory of the nomination and for the chance at being a Republican window dressing. She won’t be getting my vote!

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

Just in case you do not read the article, here is pertinent advice to us all (I include myself as I’ve almost stroked out over this Palin popularity(:

“The problem in my view is less Mr Obama and more the attitudes of the claque of official and unofficial supporters that surrounds him.”

That means “us” folks. We are hurting his chances. If you are honest with yourselves (most of us), you’ll admit it’s true.

9 09 2008
Deb

now this is too funny..did you all see where Al Franken (DEM and SNL comedian) just won primary seat???

9 09 2008
kimbers

Cynthia- here’s some info about Meghan Stapleton

http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2008/08/29/local_news/news02.txt

9 09 2008
Deb

I agree somewhat, Susan, and posted earlier…we really should be focused on MCBUSH and “issues” and not the Sarah soap opera! “Sarah surge” may come and go…but the issues will be with us a LONG time!

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

Someone read it! Yay! Thanks Deb.

As he says in the article, I worry that we (Obama supporters) are going to single-handedly blow it because of our “pit bull” (I had to say that b/c so many of us have become that…let’s be honest) reactions on blogs etc.

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

And here’s an article that will help calm your fears….it did mine.

Maybe the polls are wrong!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-graver/knocking-on-ohios-door_b_125229.html

9 09 2008
amers

Hey, just something I have been thinking about while ready this blog (which I love and am soo addicted to, I do believe I have posted a couple of times of my appreciation)

First, I really dont believe that McSame/SP will win..altho everyone needs to vote and not get compliant cause they will win if that happens…fight fight fight…keep goin all!!!!!!!!!

I am grateful tho in a weird way that Palin was picked…I dont remember Alaska getting as much attention. And from what I have been learning since SP was named the nominee Alaska has been grately (sp) ignored on so many fronts….I guess i have been realizing it since i started reading here but then that article i just read from one of the links here about just the global warming/environmental issues with SP and the hardships on all living beings , it hit me straight in the face that every American can use this opportunity to “remember” Alaska after the election. I know I will continue to make a commitment to come to this blog after the elections to keep up with whats going on there.
Just a thought
Thanks
*****sorry for typos or if i ramble, just a habit😉

9 09 2008
Pinnochio McPalin! Or Snowbilly and the Grumpy Old Man? « WhichFerret

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9 09 2008
makeitgoaway

Thank you Fireweed for that most eloquent and excellent letter. Sums things up beautifully. This needs to be seen by more than us here.

“I do not ever want to be for or against a candidate simply because of age, race, religion, or gender. I do not want to vote for a candidate simply because I can “relate” to him/her. I can relate to many of the parents of my children’s friends. I can relate to women who have been soccer moms, hockey moms, homework moms, PTA moms, orchestra moms,…… as I have been. I can relate to the women in my thirteen year old book group. I can relate to people who enjoy singing, and dancing, and music. I can relate to my coworkers and colleagues. I can relate to these people in my life, but I don’t want to select any of them as my vice-president or president simply because I can “relate” to them.”

AMEN!

9 09 2008
Deb

I will point out Sarah…that I have followed a right-wing blog of a “friend” of mine for several years, and compared to some of the attacks he has put out over the years (and currently), ours are not any worse. But, I dare say the reason he has “our” vision, is because he is not like them….that’s why we’re here…for a different vision!

9 09 2008
kimbers

Speaking for myself only Deb, I wish it was funny.

Al Franken vs Norm Coleman in November. The carpetbagger who grew up here but couldn’t wait to get away (I knew him back in the day) vs the carpetbagger whose lived here long enough to switch parties.

What a choice.

My money is on Franken in November.

9 09 2008
Deb

oops the “he” with the vision being Obama…not my friend with the right wing blog! sorry…is getting close to bedtime!

9 09 2008
marti

Thank you pwalsh for the link to fivethirtyeight.com – very interesting site that I now have bookmarked. I absolutely have to surround myself with the positive, action oriented posts. I appreciate the perspective of our past mistakes and the whole respect thing, and I will consider that in my conversations 🙂 Definately it needs to be there in letters to the editor, comments on news shows and the like. Venting is good, but I could be a little more discreet. This is such a helpful blog. I find myself saying the serenity prayer lately.

9 09 2008
Deb

@ kimber
go Franken!

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

An article that will calm your fears!

Maybe the polls are wrong! Maybe the rise in McCain’s polls are temporary and only a pushback from the undecided in response to all the back and forth bitterness. Push too hard and you push away.

Anyway, this article will give you good cheer!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-graver/knocking-on-ohios-door_b_125229.html

9 09 2008
Deb from Seattle

Dear Fireweed,
Thanks so much for your candid feelings about Palin. It is a heartfelt comment about what many of us really feel about what we want in a VP.

Dear Deb,
I respectfully disagree about the comment you posted: “The problem in my view is less Mr Obama and more the attitudes of the claque of official and unofficial supporters that surrounds him.” This is just another right wing method of cutting people off and making us feel guilty about having any feelings at all. It ALL needs to be out there. The Republicans will be ruthless and vindictive in their efforts to continue this destructive path we are on. And the radical fundamentalists are often nothing better than terrorists and biggots themselves. They have no mercy for US.

9 09 2008
9 09 2008
Hellavajewel

I just want to scream at the media and to the public. Who the hell is running for president. Sarah Palin or John McCain. Why is the press not blacking out the McCain campaign. They are giving everyone their a** to kiss and everyone is taking it.

I heard on my local news a few minutes agos that the McCain campaign has nixed the idea of her campaigning alone. That’s because John McCain won’t get a crowd and they can’t have that.

Everyone here that’s an Obama supporter please write them and call them asking them to strike back. He still has to stay above the fray like he always has but the has to fight back. He needs to call John McCain top the of the ticket.

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

My last post is not posting. If there are duplicates, please forgive me.

To Quiet Advocate:

Regarding the 62% cut for special education. I, too, have recited that accusation.

I couldn’t remember where I saw it and was unsure of its validity so last weekend I decided to verify it.

Unfortunately, it is not accurate. I discovered that the cut was made by her predecessor. The first budget she made was for almost two years (or close) in the future.

But everything else did check out (firings, books, borrowing for sports complex, bridge to nowhere, etc.).

9 09 2008
Jster

If the polls are off because they aren’t catching the younger, cell phone crowd, that’s OK for now. Maybe gives McCain false confidence. But what can we do to ensure that those youngsters (who we believe are Obama supporters) actual vote in November? Help those away at college get their absentee ballots? Any ideas?

9 09 2008
Ky

Deb, I agree!
We live in a country of free thinkers, who have the power of free speech.
Also, if Palin was actually willing to speak to the press, this might not be such a huge issue. I honestly can’t figure out how SO many can back her, when she hasn’t told us very much about herself, at all. We haven’t seen her react to off the cuff questions. How is she going to respond during a debate? A reporter’s question? It just looks like she is hiding something.

9 09 2008
NoCalGal

earlier in one of these numerous threads someone discussed that we do a disservice to the democratic argument when we repeat incorrect informaion.. it makes the MP ticket able to imply that EVERYTHING we say is similarly incorrect.. so, IMHO we need to be firm, argumentative and truthful… the facts are strong enough to make our point, and make it more effectively.

So, banned books? No. But- did enquire numerous times about removing books. It is cendorship- still reprehensible. Tried to fire the librarian who disagreed with the removal.. the listener can draw the inference.. I certainly have…

We are out to talk with and influence those middle of the road, uncommited voters.. and they do not respond well to strident shrill arguments.

Just my two cents. I have a friend who is Republican… we argue all the time. She has never been a fan of McCain… she is trying to learn about SP and the issues etc. She heard on Anderson Cooper ppl saying they would never vote for Obama because he is black. That infuriated her. She said she might just vote for him to hit against that kind of racism/old workd mind set. I remained more quiet than usual.. and just told her I could certainly understand why she felt that way. She will get there. I do not need to beat her up…

And I just want to add that I continue to thoroughly enjoy this site and all of your posts.. it gives me heart when I get discouraged. And it gives me great talking points and the resolve to use them as much as I can.

Thank you all.

9 09 2008
Karen

They are really pushing the pig comment – Drudge has it as his big headline naturally and it’s being covered on tv. I don’t know any way that this crap can be combated. It’s the same as 2000 and 2004. The Republicans led by Rove throw out one dirty attack after another. It doesn’t matter how preposterous it is, they just keep throwing and there is no possible way to keep up. Obama’s campaign winds up wildly flailing while trying to stop the incoming barbs.
This country has become a laughing stock the world over under Bush and I really believe this is the last chance to get back on track. McCain has sold his soul to the fundamentalists and if he wins (followed by President Palin) they will have solidified their grip on nation. The rest of the world will see it for what it is and move forward, leaving the US in a downward spiral of ignorance.
I’ll add, the only person who mentioned Palin’s gaff about Freddie/Fannie yesterday was KO. An important peek at her level of ignorance but why would that get mentioned – who cares about qualifications.

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

Deb,

It wasn’t not another Deb but me that posted that article.

And I respectfully disagree with your disagreement😉

I know exactly how you feel…trust me. I have practically lived on this computer, sent far too many emails to undecided/McCain voters and all I’ve accomplished is to piss them off. AND ensure that they will probably NEVER objectively look at the risk Palin poses.

So, I do understand how you feel. But I also know deep within that we need to do what WORKS.

We need to TRUST that Obama’s campaign and the media will get the correct information out there. And as I see it, they are doing it.

But, every time one of us clicks on a Palin article, the source calculates that and guess what? More Palin articles because that’s what gets clicks!!! They are a business after all.

The article points out that we need to “chill” out. Trust. Stop fueling the fire that is helping her to take the limelight.

I once read (before this campaign) that whoever gets the most consistent attention, good or bad, wins elections. I don’t know if that’s true or not but I am not willing to take the chance.

Let’s see if calmer more respectful comments might be more persuasive. It IS more persuasive to you when you are the undecided is it not??? It is for me.

9 09 2008
timc

MSM is getting more negative. I think they are upset about her lack of availability. The press blackout might have been a mistake for the Mcsame campaign. Let’s hope so.

Let’s face it, she is the only news in the campaign right now. Nobody wants to talk about Iraq, it is a money pit and they are probably going to end up hating us if and when we ever leave. The economy is sinking slowly but only some people are feeling it.

Obama has a few more days to guage the Palin effect and decide whether a strategy effect is in place.

9 09 2008
gizmo

Newsweek Hammers Palin –

http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140

After McCain nominated Palin, I wondered how long she could stay on the ticket as embarrassing new revelations popped up daily. Now I’m hoping she stays on the ticket…

pj

9 09 2008
Siege

Fireweed,
More heartfelt thanks from those of us who have not been governed by her. It helps to get this reinforcement from Alaskan citizens. I met an Alaskan down here in suburb outside Atlanta today (young girl taking money and making appts at my hair salon). I asked her for her take and she said many Alaskans feel favorably towards Palin because of the increase in $$$ that has come back to them (from some gas-related dividend- which I am sure has been described on this blog). It went up to about $3000 (from maybe $1000 or $1500 before). So in her opinion, they like her for that. She saw that as Palin being “for the people.”

9 09 2008
Deb

MSM actually called this…..by picking McCain has made it a “culture” war, not a serious discussion over the issues facing this country. We will not win this by mocking Sarah, the other “cultures” darling…or falling into the culture war mindset. With the country in the shape that it is in, and the huge problems we face globally, we have to stay focused on the ISSUES. We are doing exactly what the architect of this fiasco WANTS us to do! We fall for the Sarah “bait” and lose an election.

9 09 2008
Deb

sorry for all those typos! *by picking PALIN, McCain has made this a culture war…

9 09 2008
Tex

I just watched AC 360 and it was about Palin’s enviromental policies. It was great she looked terrible. They spoke about the global warming issues, even McCain agrees we need to reduce carbon output in to our enviroment. She thinks man has nothing to do with our planets issues.

9 09 2008
seesallyread

CNN is equating the false rumors of Obama being a Muslim to Palin banning books at the library–she only inquired about censorship and was going to fire the librarian but stopped short of that facing town resistance. Boo! That’s not the same thing. It’s not like Obama intended to become a Muslin but was thwarted and took the path of least resistance.

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says Tucker Eschew has been added to the Palin staff. He was supposedly responsible for the slur that brought McCain down in the SC primary in 2000. –The one about him having an illegitimate black baby. McCain is really embracing this whole thing. May as well go all the way, I guess.

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

So right Deb.

That is why I thought the U.K. article was such an eye-opener. Make sure you read it to the end.

Here it is again:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f1984d88-7cd5-11dd-8d59-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

9 09 2008
PJ

THIS ONE IS A DOOZY!!!!!

http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140

9 09 2008
ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/22/obama-ayers-ad-group-will_n_120617.html

the rest of the story on the Fox News “gaffe” misplaced mccain campaign
ad. this mentions the McCain legislation that will come to play when sorting out what 501(c)4 companies can and cannot do…….sheesh.

who is driving that straight talk bus?

please do not say it is the McCain/Palin – they lost control some time ago. this ad gaffe is what it is — the background fellows getting all twisted and whatnot – and that dang game clock ticking and no time outs left.

hey does the Truth Squad play bipartisan on looking for truth?

or are they mostly just keeping the POW story straight and i guess now looking for any google hits on pig and lipstick?

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

You are right SeeSally, those two are not the same AT ALL. Most people will be able to see that (I say to myself half hopingly…is that a word😉

9 09 2008
Karen

Yes, how can McCain live with himself? Either he already has dementia or this should eat him alive – abandoning all sense of honor.
And ABC should be ashamed of itself for doing this interview on 9/11 and I assume highlighting her son’s deployment. Sick.

9 09 2008
ocliberal

AK: More great work. I love the last line…

Up until now, we’ve only gotten lessons in how to get fired in Palin’s world. But now, it seems, we know what it takes to move ahead

Got in a heated political discussion at work today with a very religious co-worker of mine. I’ve know him for years and he really is a nice guy, but he is a creationist and just so full of misinformation about Obama it was alarming. After he tried to convince me of Barak’s direct terrorist ties and how Barak would destroy all of the US’s weapon defense systems and leave our country defenseless I finally calmed him down enough to say, ‘Hey dude – are you happy with this economy?’ His answer – NO “Are you happy with this war that has bleed $80 billion out of our country away from our schools and our children?” He said NO. I said, “hey do you know that you will get a bigger tax cut from Obama than you get me McCain?” No he didn’t know that at all.

I also tried to explain that Pro-choice isn’t synonomous with pro-abortion. It just means take the government out of making decisions that a woman needs to make for herself. (Not sure he’s buying that one.)

Finally I said, “Why don’t you leave your religious beliefs out of politics for THIS election and vote for the country so we can stop being screwed!”

I’m not sure I got a vote for Obama but he did finally admit that he hated Bush and McCain and he proabably wouldn’t vote at all. Small victory but I’ll take it.

He doesn’t follow the news or blogs – gets all his political ‘news’ from his church and religious radio stations. And it pretty damn scary the information he is getting.

This week, I’ve now had two lifelong Republicans tell me they are voting for Obama and one creationist tell me he isn’t going to vote at all. Small victories, especially here in California but it reaffirms my hope that not everyone is a stupid as the repugs would want us to believe…

9 09 2008
Diva

“Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says Tucker Eschew has been added to the Palin staff.”

Ok, not for nothin’, but just how many of these right-wing tools are named Tucker??? Seems every Tom, Dick and Harry over on that side is named Tucker these days!😉

‘night, all!

9 09 2008
KiwisCanFly

Does Gov Palin deserve deference?

If we are talking about polite respect. Yes of course.

Even if Gov Palin did sprinkle her acceptance speech with distortions of the truth. And continues to repeat them in her stump speeches.

If we are talking about submission to her judgment or opinion. No Way.

We don’t know what her judgment or opinion is because she won’t field legitimate questions.
Whatever excuses are made, the bottom line is that Gov Palin has accepted the nomination of VP candidate. Questions are being asked and no answers are forthcoming, not to the media and not even to the public.

I suggest that Gov Palin does not understand the deference she should have towards the public.

9 09 2008
kimbers

You know Gizmo, after reading that Newsweek article, I realized that all this stuff is reminding me how ineffective Bill Clinton became as all the personal issues became his focus instead of the needs of the country. (Not taking away from all the things the Clinton presidency got right)

Do we really want someone that close to the whitehouse who has so much real and/or insinuated drama going on before they are even elected?

Maybe I’m just tired right now, but the feeling of deja vu is strong….

9 09 2008
Mil

Karen (19:54:36) :

I’ll add, the only person who mentioned Palin’s gaff about Freddie/Fannie yesterday was KO. An important peek at her level of ignorance but why would that get mentioned – who cares about qualifications.

~~~

CNN did.

9 09 2008
Karen

Notice that the Keating 5 scandal has not been brought into this election. Do you think that would be the case if the situations were reversed?
I’m so sick of hearing about Ayers. I’m old enough to remember the Weather Underground, Obama’s not – it’s time to let it go.

9 09 2008
Divatalk

Hey guys,
I have stopped looking a polls and have been tracking the trend markets. I’ve been
using http://www.intrade.com. They are based on trends that people actually are putting money on just like any other market. Anyway do the research and it is showing that the trends markets tend to be more accurate than polling because it is not based on partisanship. Just numbers, At last checked a few minutes ago it has Obama up at 53.0 to McCain 46. It flunctuates all day but consistently it has leaned more toward Obama.

Also, I mentioned this last night too, as I have noticed some of you are saying. The more energy put into Palin the more you attract what you don’t want. I’ve seen it happen too many times in many areas. IF you focus on what you don’t want with intensity, that is exactly what you get. Besides it makes you feel bad.

Another thing I’ve been reading same thing as others, there are some bloggers that are giving in accurate information so that by the time MSM get it, it has been discredited all together. So even the aspect which may have been correct is tossed out of the window.

This is the time for focus, calm, strategic tactics. if we continue to take our energies and continue to get the word out we will feel much better and allow the rest to come out as it will.

9 09 2008
ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck

can it be that the scandal posted 19:43:46 is the most bizarre thing yet?

mind you that article was not written in People or Cosmo — that was published in the Wall Street Journal.

same guy owns FOX right?

republican – has lots of money?

my head is spinning. like i said before the straight talk bus has a bit of a designated driver thing going on with the republican “ceiling” – forget the base….. the big guys are messing with my head.

this is a very detailed description of personnel matters 10 years ago in Wasilla Alaska? reads like the script to a soap opera (which it is)

whaaat? is this some kind of pre-emptive stike on the National Enquirer?

help us master of the mudflats — what is going on?

ENOUGH – Yup. Sounds right to me. I remember when that happened. I know that other MSM people have been talking to Bitney too. There was coverage in the Anchorage Daily News. It was a mini-scandal at the time. It happened in 2007 when she was governor, not in Wasilla. It was just dateline Wasilla. I still can’t get over that…national media in Wasilla….
AKMuckraker

9 09 2008
Tex

Karen,
What’s Ayers the weather undergroung.

9 09 2008
Cassie

SUSAN IN ATL

Got it covered, I hope. Sent Clive this email

In a perfect world, your comments would be spot on. Alas, in America today, as before, there are stark undercurrents. While few would admit it, the race issue is on everyone’s mind.

We, and our four children will vote for the Obama/Biden ticket. Our neighbor, a southern male, cannot bring himself to do so, even though his wife will. My 85 year old Northern mother will not, my other neighbor, an 86 year old Southern woman will.

The reality is that race is an issue. Fine. I accept that. If you tell me that you cannot vote for Obama because he is black, then I will accept that and go off and vote for him myself anyway. No harm, no foul.

My visceral problem with Republicans in America is that they cannot be so honest: instead of admitting to their racism or other predjudices (mainly, their belief that most of us exist to serve their MANY needs), they attempt to destroy character. This is not politics, this is a SIN. To denegrate a man’s life work by sneeringly stating that he was a community organizer has prompted this response:

Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Further, the only time Republicans admit the “great unwashed” even exist is when they trot them to the polls every four years by capitalizing on their fears, while doing nothing to address their daily concerns and needs. Just look at poor fishing vilages in Alaska that have no running water or sewer facilitiesd.

The main factor that you fail to name is the evangelical vote. They, and Sarah Palin, believe this is their mission from God. I believe that suicide bombers from the Middle East think that, too.

None of us on this earth can afford to have rulers who are myopic, regardless of the myopia envisioned. We need solution makers. McCain is not one of them.

9 09 2008
Susan in Atl

Cassie,

About the race thing…I know…my Aunt, a lifelong Democrat all of a sudden has a problem with Obama’s stance on abortion. Huh??? She’s a life-long Democrat (and in her 70’s…so that’s a long time)!

There’s nothing we can do about that though.

My mom and dad, both in their 70’s and Independent, were Hillary supporters but now are voting for Obama. But his brother and his wife are not. And it is because of race. Go figure.

9 09 2008
Karen

Tex: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/902213,CST-NWS-ayers18.article

The right continues trying to link Obama to the Ayers of the Viet Nam war era.

9 09 2008
Harley

Saved and promoted for the world to see

http://change-obama08.blogspot.com/2008/09/comment-from-real-alaskan.html

Thank You fireweed

9 09 2008
Esther

Christina,
Thanks for the link to the awesome video. I’ve sent it on. (Is it Viral now??)
It’s very well done! It may be too graphic for TV, showing the actual consequences of war, but the anti-war/McCain quotes from prominent republicans and former generals should be revisited in the MSM. If only…

9 09 2008
Tex

Karen thanks for the link… it seems to me Ayers has changed his life for the good and is not the man he was. I guess if this gets brought up against Obama we can defend it with the Keating 5 S&l tax payer rip off.

9 09 2008
GJ in Idaho

After watching Charlie Rose, and Moyer tonight, along with the other bits and clicks that have filter through my brain, as I forward information and see how it’s taken and spun through new perspective and feedback or pushed back, I’m bit exhausted, my eyes are bloodshot, but thankgoodness one your blogger on another list showed me how to enlarge my browser font so I could actually see it better, still I’m a bit cranky one had one cig today and lord help I haven’t gone to the store to buy more so I actually sent my $5 to Obama a moment ago. Ventng all that and the fact of my disappointment that the “pig w/lipstick” made it out of Obama’s mouth and not Biden’s, has me at a pretty low, point. I just was wondering if any one was as distrubed as I was today to learn that Special Ed money in Ak is going to a military school. What’s up with that? How long will we continue to send our babies to war, how long oh, if I have to see one more bloody shot up child…red, blue, purple…it is all so pointless, my heart just hurts…I’m shuting down and shuting up…a trillion $$$ and that one sight that shows us how much that is spent every second…breath, breath….I’d post the links but there already been posted here so if you have better eyes than mine, good look for yourself, if you can’t see what this war is doing to us…I’m praying for peace all day thrusday, well I do that each day, but I will be doing it with millions of others around the world, who call themselves Unitics and lots of other organizations with other names…we’ll pray for Palin’s son and all the others that are being sent off on the day, to celebrate 9/11 as well as those that have come or not come home after their service, because that’s what we do…sigh

I’d like to do more, but not tonight….zzzzzz

9 09 2008
DeMo

Divatalk said:
IF you focus on what you don’t want with intensity, that is exactly what you get. Besides it makes you feel bad.

Then the converse must be true. Seems to be the theory of “The Secret.”

I want an administration that has a vision for America that is inclusive. I want a president that cares about the economy, not only the dollars earned by the rich. I want an executive branch that doesn’t rush to war, and that takes care of our soldiers when we have to go to war. I want a Supreme Court that interprets the Constitution according to society’s standards. (Strict constructionists would, by definition, have to ignore women and blacks. They had no rights when the Constitution was written.)

I really enjoy this community, and have since I stumbled upon it when the rumors of Sarah and Trig surfaced. It was here that I learned Trig is her son. I have tried to participate in a respectful manner. So why, oh why couldn’t someone have given me the heads up on Larry King’s guest Congresswoman Bachman from Minnesota? She actually said, and I’m paraphrasing, that her constituents, young and old, have told her that Sarah seems like a lot of fun. FUN? Really? That’s what the good people of Minnesota want in a VP? Just invite her to a girls’ night out and keep her out of the White House!

*I* understand that this election is about issues, but for a large segment of the population it goes back to “can I enjoy a beer with this person?”

So, while I would gladly focus on the issues, I am not afforded that luxury. When someone tells me they are voting Palin because she seems friendly, I have to bring up her sarcasm. I have to point out that it’s not friendly to force a pregnant woman to have a baby when she currently has the right to terminate that pregnancy. I have to remind them that it isn’t nice to lie to people and say you didn’t want a bridge when you campaigned for it. A friend wouldn’t lie to you and Sarah has.

9 09 2008
DeMo

Divatalk,

If it seems like I was challenging you, I apologize. I plead exhaustion. I enjoy your posts. You contribute mightily to this forum. I cited one sentence from your post and it may appear that I mocked you. That was surely not my intent.

Cassie, YES, the suicide (actually homicide) bombers believe they are doing G-d’s work. And as they do, they kill thousands of innocents. What Palin said about our troops being on a task from G-d is perilously close to what the fundamentalist terrorists say.

There is no way to persuade evangelicals that Palin is wrong. She was sent by G-d. I wouldn’t waste my energy trying to discuss issues with them. Ditto for racists. Those are thoughts that are so deeply engrained that it’s a lost cause.

Take heart, folks. Lots of people in my world are responding in ways I never would have imagined. Of course, my world isn’t representative of the nation at large, but when a corporate attorney who is focused on dollars is taking off a week to work on behalf of Obama, I have hope. YES WE CAN.

9 09 2008
mvngfwd

Fireweed, thank you for your courage and honesty. Even though I am all the way down here in Miami Beach, literally the farthest away from you as I think I could get and still be in the USA , we are kindred spirits in what we want for this country. I will take you up on the offer to share your wisdom and insight.

9 09 2008
Keystone

Regarding the library issue, the 2006 vetting document states the following:

Palin Asked City Librarian About Censoring Books, Insisted It Was “Rhetorical.” In 1996,
according to the Frontiersman, Wasilla’s library director Mary Ellen “Emmons said Palin asked her
outright if she could live with censorship of library books.” Emmons said, “This is different than a normal
book-selection procedure or a book-challenge policy…She was asking me how I would deal with her
saying a book can’t be in the library.” Palin said in response, “Many issues were discussed, both
rhetorical and realistic in nature.” [Frontiersman, 12/18/96]

Them “Intent to Terminate” Letters. In 1997, Palin fired Police Chief Irl Stambaugh and Library
Director Mary Ellen Emmons. The Frontiersman wrote, “After news of the of the dismissals broke
Thursday night, Palin said she never meant to fire Stambaugh and Emmons. ‘It was an intent to terminate
letter to discuss my intent to terminate them or for them to submit resignations.’” Palin wrote in her letter,
“I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla.” [Frontiersman, 2/5/97]

• Palin Rehired Library Director after Cementing Her Support. The Frontiersman wrote, “Palin
said she cemented Emmons’ support Friday afternoon for her new plan to join the library and
museum departments and felt like she could continue to work with Emmons. Her plan will create
more efficiency within the departments, Palin said, making better use of the public’s money.”
[Frontiersman, 2/5/97]

Palin Fired Librarian for Not Supporting Her, Later Rehired Her After Assurances of Support. In
1997, Palin fired the Wasilla city librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons. Palin delivered a letter to Emmons and
the police chief saying, ‘‘I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla.
Therefore I intend to terminate your employment.” Palin later said she had received assurances from
Emmons that she had her support. The Anchorage Daily News wrote, “Palin said she asked Emmons if
she would support efforts to merge the library and museum operations. Emmons said she would,
according to Palin.” Emmons had been the city’s library director for seven years. [Anchorage Daily News,
1/31/97, 2/1/97]

9 09 2008
Keystone

from vetting document regarding library censorship:

Palin Asked City Librarian About Censoring Books, Insisted It Was “Rhetorical.” In 1996,
according to the Frontiersman, Wasilla’s library director Mary Ellen “Emmons said Palin asked her
outright if she could live with censorship of library books.” Emmons said, “This is different than a normal
book-selection procedure or a book-challenge policy…She was asking me how I would deal with her
saying a book can’t be in the library.” Palin said in response, “Many issues were discussed, both
rhetorical and realistic in nature.” [Frontiersman, 12/18/96]
Contracts
Wasilla

9 09 2008
NY Dem

Correct, Rachel Maddow is a Stanford grad and a Rhodes Scholar, and only 35 years old. Here is an excerpt from an excellent article on her (July 3 2008):

Maddow grew up in the Bay Area; she came out just before college in 1990 and became an AIDS activist at the epicenter of the epidemic. She earned a degree in public policy from Stanford before beginning work with ACT UP and the AIDS Legal Referral Panel. But Maddow had trouble breaking into treatment activism, which was then the rock-star world of AIDS policy. “It was boys’ land,” she says. “I knew like two women total who were doing treatment activism. And I didn’t totally get it. I’m not like Barbie–‘Math is hard!’–but it was a techie world, and I didn’t feel like I could be all that helpful.”

What she discovered instead was the nexus of the radical prison reform movement of the ’70s and modern AIDS activism. It was an area where Maddow felt progress–like allowing secure hospices to take dying prisoners–was possible. “Dying behind bars?” she says fourteen years later. “Wicked expensive. And wicked stupid. And also mean. So let’s make the hospices get what they want and also do the right thing!”

In 1995 Maddow traveled as a Rhodes scholar to Oxford, where she began a doctorate in political science, focusing on the intersection of the AIDS and prison movements. She moved back to the United States to finish her dissertation, crashing with friends in Western Massachusetts. “I wanted to live somewhere where I’d be unhappy,” she explains. “And I have no interest in New England, hate winter, don’t like the country, not fond of animals.” More than a decade later, Maddow still divides her time between her home in Northampton, Massachusetts, and an apartment in Greenwich Village, both of which she shares with her girlfriend, artist Susan Mikula. The couple have been together for almost ten years, and Maddow calls their relationship “my proudest accomplishment.”

Read the entire article here:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/traister

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10 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

Palmdale,

Thanks for the input. I now know which paper I’ll go for.

For others who might be from NJ, I’m going to send mine to the Courier-News and in two weeks I’ll send it to the Recorder Newspapers. It would be great if someone else could hit the Star-Ledger that would be great – I’m persona non grata there since calling out one of their columnists on another matter.

I love the idea of a Yahoo group. Can we do that AKM?

10 09 2008
yourinfo

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Watch this entire video, very powerful!

10 09 2008
stringbender

Where do they come from? And why do the come? It’s like a pretend land and unfortunately we have to play the game.

This video has more validity than the politicians are offering and I think I’d be more compelled to hear what’s said here… Check it out….

http://www.theofficialpigeonforgecabinguide.com/horseback-riding-in-pigeon-forge-tn.html

10 09 2008
ellemay

Just so you know, not everyone in Wasilla or Alaska supports Palin, despite how the press is making it look that way. http://ellemay.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/wasillans-for-obama/

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10 09 2008
oh please

Oh please, the promotion was in the works for a long time, it didn’t happen over night and it certainly wasn’t because of what he was saying to the media.

Come on people, use some common sense here.

10 09 2008
GJ in Idaho

I’ll be doing some volunteer work here today.
http://www.milliondoorsforpeace.org/signup.php?code=dfa

Please join us if you can.

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10 09 2008
rocklandproperties

This is unbelievable! Is she perfect. No one is. But I am amazed at the absolute hypocrisy of the so called “liberal press”. Finally the world has a viable female leader and you all want to destroy her because she doesn’t kill babies, loves her husband, love God, and horror of horrors, loves Jesus. One Day all of you will find out the truth. But by then it will be too late.

12 09 2008
zane grey

Kudos to you Mainiac for calling the station….MSM needs to get their confidence & interviewing skills back. Seems like they throw these zingers out & that obsequious McCain smiles his smary smile & give these vacuous answers & it’s on to the next question.

Guess Old Hilary was right ” it’s all a right wing conspiracy against my husband”….except this time it isn’t Bill it’s the whole fricking country.

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