Palin – Republican Party Infiltrator? Damning Video.

8 09 2008

Whoa, Nellie! You may need to be sitting down for this one. Check out this video from a meeting of the Alaskan Independence Party. The guy in the beard and suspenders is Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark. Partial transcript is below, but you may want to sit and really listen to the whole thing. It’s like being a fly on the wall at the crazy uncle/secessionist convention! The AIP now has over 13,000 registered members, and added 300 this year.

The basic argument of the Alaskan Independence Party has always been the number one plank in our platform – the question of our vote to become a state. So…the most blaring disparity in that vote was the definition of an eligible voter. Among those qualified to cast a ballot were 41,000 American soldiers and 36,000 dependants. Now, to the native population of Alaska, to me, these were occupation troops! And they were made eligible and, in fact encouraged to vote. There were educational meetings held on the military bases. I can’t imagine them telling anyone that anything but that statehood would be very good for the military – in fact they still have 6, 7 big bases and numerous smaller holdings in the state. Statehood would be good for the military. Now can you imagine the international uproar if American troops had all went and got their purple fingers in Iraq?

After his discussion of the American ‘occupying troops’ getting the right to vote (purple finger analogy), he goes on to say that instead of having the options to vote to either remain a territory, become a commonwealth, become a state or become an independent nation, that voters were only given the option – Statehood? Yes or No. And also, under the Voter Rights Act of the time, you had to be able to read and write English to vote, which disenfranchised much of the Alaska Native population. There’s the rationale for taking the vote we never got to take. Now, we get to the good part, just before 6:00 on the video.

“Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected. There’s a joke, she’s a pretty good looking gal, there’s a joke goes around we’re the coldest state with the hottest governor. (laughter) And there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town — that was a non-partisan job. But to get along and go along — she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership.

So…basically what he’s saying here, is that Palin’s philosophical loyalties lie with the Alaska Independence Party, but in order to get elected, she had to distance herself from the AIP and infiltrate the Republican Party, because they’re the only ones who can ever actually get voted into office. But don’t worry boys and girls, her heart is still with us, and her sympathies are with the agenda of the Alaskan Independence Party, namely, independence.

Then he begins to discuss the the oil industry, how it breeds corruption, and how Alaskans aren’t making enough money from it. He also talks about Republican Senator Ted Stevens and Republican Congressman Don Young being under investigation. (Young is still under investigation, and Stevens is indicted on seven felony counts of non-disclosure of gifts totalling over $250,000 from an oil service company). He goes on:

If there is ever a time that is right for change, this is it. In our own situation, we discussed several options. Do we try and get our case into the International Court of Justice, or to the World Court? Several Native Alaskan organizations are taking that route, independent of us. They want to do it on their own terms. They haven’t realized, in my mind, the potential of their own political party. The pitfalls of an organized political party – you don’t have any control over who joins that party. They put the X next to it on the registration form, and if they join the — go into the primary, and win that primary, they’re your candidate, like it or not. I think Ron Paul has kind of proven that. He’s a dyed -in-the-wool Libertarian. He came to Alaska and spoke as a Libertarian. And he put the Republican label on to get elected. That’s all there is to it. And any one of your organizations should be using that same tactic to infiltrate. I know that Christian Exodus is in favor of it, I know that the Free State Movement is in favor of it. I don’t know that they even care which party it is. Which ever party you see where you can get something done, get into that political party, even though it does have it’s problems. Right now that is one of the only avenues. If you can get a few people on the city council, or a town board, you can have some effect.

Wow. Another plot twist in our drama. So, despite the claims that Palin has been a member of the Republican Party since 1982, this would appear to contradict that pretty strongly. Dexter is implying that Palin ‘marked the box’ Republican, but isn’t one.

Let’s indulge in a little mind movie for a moment. Suppose, if you will, a video surfaced of a local Islamic mullah talking in a mosque about how Barack Obama, in order to get elected, had infiltrated a Christian church, and was planning to take over the country with an Islamic agenda. How would that play in Peoria?

So, the Alaskan Independence Party has 13,000 registered members, but how many others are out there??? ….They walk among us…

UPDATE: Oops…forgot my Quote of the Day from Alaskan Independence Party founder Joe Voegler:

“The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”

Happy Monday!


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8 09 2008
curiositykilledthecat

Sure wish you would post this information on Charlie Gibson’s blog. Will you please consider doing it? For us, for the sake of America?

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8 09 2008
fredrik

It’s good that you put more focus on AIP. I think this is probably the issue that is toughest for the Republican base to swallow.

8 09 2008
Doc

This election has become about celebrities not about policy, intellect or issues. The public has gone gaga over Palin. Everyone thinks she is great, it will be too late before they question her. It was too late for Hilary (thank God) before the media stated giving her a pass and attacking Obama. That day was after Wisconsin primary. McCain et al claimed she has experience because she is close to Russia and the country believed him. She will claim these people are kooks and the story will go away. These stories do not stick on Republicans. Did I mention he was a POW?

8 09 2008
Steveo

Man, this just gets weirder and weirder and weirder. I hope Charlie Gibson brings this up with Palin.
For anyone interested: 10 Weird Facts You Should Know About Sarah Palin
http://hottiesinthenews.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-louise-heath-palin-weird-facts.html

8 09 2008
Steveo

Man, this just gets weirder and weirder and weirder. I hope Charlie Gibson brings this up with Palin.
For anyone interested: 10 Weird Facts You Should Know About Sarah Palin
http://hottiesinthenews.blogspot.com/

8 09 2008
Steveo

Man, this just gets weirder and weirder and weirder. I hope Charlie Gibson brings this up with Palin.
For anyone interested: My blog has complied a list of ’10 Weird Facts You Should Know About Sarah Palin’

8 09 2008
angryxer

curiositykilledthecat,
sorry, looks like we can expect a whole lotta NOTHING from Gibson. Here’s the latest post from the Jed Report, “Not Really An Interview.” effing unbeLIEVEable:

“Looks like I need to modify the countdown widget to track the time until Sarah Palin sits down for an interview without preconditions, because as Josh Marshall observes, the Charlie Gibson interview isn’t really an interview after all.

For starters, it will take place in multiple sessions over multiple days, giving Palin incredible leverage over Gibson — if she or her handlers don’t like a question, they’ll just cancel the remaining sessions, all but insuring that Gibson won’t ask any tough questions.

Moreover, Gibson has already preemptively agreed to the McCain campaign’s demand that he not ask questions of a personal nature, writing last week that “Once you know about her daughter’s pregnancy, once you know about her husband’s political interest in the Alaska Independent Party, once you know about the special nature of their latest child, I think that’s enough.”

It’s simply breathtaking that Gibson would make such a statement. How can he possibly take off the table questions about her and Todd Palin’s involvement in the Alaskan Independence Party? (Perhaps he doesn’t know that the party advocates Alaska’s secession from the U.S.A., given that he doesn’t know how to spell it.)

Also worth noting: the interview is scheduled to take place on both Thursday and Friday, September 11 and 12. Given that her son is scheduled to leave for Iraq on 9/12 (not 9/11 as she claimed last Wednesday), it’s hard to imagine Gibson won’t ask her about that — as he should. But if he’s going to ask about her son’s military service, why isn’t it okay to ask about her own ties and her husband’s ties to the secessionist movement? And why isn’t it okay to ask other questions of a personal nature?

So my bottom-line here — unless Charlie Gibson proves me wrong by conducting a no-holds barred interview — is that this does not meet the criteria of an interview without preconditions, and I’m going to update the widget to reflect that fact. “

8 09 2008
kylehobbs

I love this blog… great info.. I can’t imagine the traffic you’ve been getting the last 2 weeks. Thanks so much for an insiders look.
I can’t wait for this stuff to start materializing in the main press… if McCrusty got a hold of this he’d call you the most sexist person alive… beware!
Washington State thanks you!

8 09 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

wanna hear the funniest thing…the seccesionist who took this vid and calls his youtube page wogsworld (nah, he aint no racist) wants to sue the guy who pulled the vid and put it up as his own

now that is funny

now it could be that what we are watching is just an aip guy trying to make their party a bigger deal than it is, but then you have this:

palin addressing the aip, as if it were just another independent party, like the greens

think obama would get a pass if a vid came out of him addressing lets say, the black panthers or the communist party? and on such friendly terms?

note, the only person to even mention this vid is bill mahr…

now im an outsider, but it seems to me that the aip has some pretty extreme views….

i understand that many alaskans have grievances against the feds, but secession?

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Gibson will just smile his way through it while Palin goes through her innocent pit bull routine.

(I realize that sounds contradictory, but it’s early in the morning here.)

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Her and especially Hubbies connection with this removes quite a few arguments of spin by the GOP and their gophers, i.e. sheople.

It takes away the false, but consistant, as you put at the bottom, spin about Obama being a Muslim.

It takes away the fact of what her registration card says, and what she actually thinks, thanks to what has happened before but this time pushed Publically by the little addict rush and others, to switch registrations to Independant or even Democratic to Vote In many Primaries to jack the vote numbers in favor of a certain candidate and falsify the poll numbers etc..

Trouble with this AIP group is it’s like many fringe so called political parties based on one issue, or just a couple, for the most part those types of minds? are what make up the GOP base. Following and Voting with blinders on and against their own best interests, their communities best interests, and the societies {they sadly were born into} best interests.

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

I don’t think it will make any difference to the Republicans, anyway.

They seem to like the lunatic fringe these days.

I’m trying not to be pessimistic today. I think I need to send Obama some more money.

8 09 2008
curiositykilledthecat

I predicted two blogs back that her interview would happen on 9/11. They’ll be concentrating on her son being deployed, the pride, the heartache, the patriotism. Rah, rah, rah. Wouldn’t be surprised if they throw in some of the 9/11 footage from the RNC. Milk it for all it’s worth.

8 09 2008
princePaul

Imagine if this was Obama? Why do you and your husband hate America Sarah Palin? Why did you give a taped address to the AIP in 2008, congratulating them on their work and telling them to ‘keep up the good work’?

‘End of Days’ religion, the AIP connection — this should be enough to get her out of contention if the Dems did the hard work and grew a pair.

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

The only thing that gives me hope is that my sister-in-law and her husband, a Vietnam Vet!, are both voting for Obama. They used to be very Republican.

Yesterday when my 85-year-old father-in-law was ranting about how “inexperienced” Obama is, she confronted him and said, “What you mean is that white people shouldn’t vote for a black man.”

She was a big Bob Dole and Bush supporter, but she’s talking like a Democrat now.

8 09 2008
Kevin Bondelli

Excellent find. This definitely needs to go viral.

8 09 2008
misskae

For those of you who haven’t heard of Christian Exodus – they’re the group that advocates like-minded people moving en masse to a state (most recently South Carolina), infiltrating the political system, with an eye towards eventually seceding from the U.S. (in one scenario). Now, according to this article, they may be changing their focus from S.C. to Idaho.

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2008/jan/02/will-christian-exodus-say-adios-sc/

So it looks like there’s this Alaska-S.C. Bible Belt connection. Hmmmm. Didn’t I read somewhere here that SP had come to S.C. for some type of conference or training session? (I’ll never find it…)

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Talking about Track, 9/11, and Iraq Deployment, what do OIF and OEF Veterans think about her spouting her mouth off and the press continuing to report on it:

From an OIF, OEF Veteran, a junior officer:

AP Doing Everything Except Actually Physically Handing Track Palin Over to Insurgents

And how about a parent of an OIF Soldier, a ‘Nam Vet if memory serves, do know he’s a Vet though:

Praying that Track Palin’s Brigade is not deploying to my kid’s COB

The knowledge of Tracks Deployment and what he’ll be doing Puts Everyone Near Him or Even Thought To Be Him and Those Around Them in Extreme Danger, he’s now becoming a High Profile Target thanks to the selling points of the GOP machine!!!

Biden’s son is relatively on safe ground due to being a Military Lawyer and in the JAG, unless because of him being there, Dems not making such a big deal out of nor is his Father, someone trys popping mortars or rockets back over the blastwalls of the Green Zone, blastwalls that seperate and surround most of the Baghdad Neighborhoods which is helping keep the bombing attacks and firefights to lower numbers!

8 09 2008
jimstaro

misskae:

I’m in NC, just up from the SC border, don’t hear much about this so called movement anymore, and haven’t paid much attention to.

But what little pops up every once in a great while this wasn’t flying, especially as to the numbers of believers they claimed they had.

A few did originally move there, very few. But it’s interesting in the beginning of that article they state something to effect of other priorities, family, work etc., that kept many from moving, yet they think they’ll go to Idaho., typical empty heads I guess!

But a good comparison of the Cult mentality they call politics and religion, thanks for the link.

8 09 2008
kylehobbs

Great find Jim… this thing is getting so crazy.. I mean, it was nuts a week ago… now I’m nearing exhausted. I’m more afraid of her than I am of McCain…

8 09 2008
fredrik

Can’t we just call her Secessionist Sarah?😀

8 09 2008
GJ in Idaho

Now I know where lots of the fringe in ID went. Sorry about that. It wasn’t so long ago the ID Panhandle was wanting to form there own state, if we had, there would be another blue state today. I considered going up your way in the 60’s, my sister did it in the late 70’s. I took to the woods down here, during my back to the earth days, raised 3 babies in a tent for a couple of years, when there wasn’t any work in town, and we wanted to experience living off the land instead of becoming fat cats. Was a good experience, but I got tired of washing diapers in the creek and paning for gold nuggets to by milk and flour. Gold didn’t bring that much then and we never found the mother load. Then my hubby got hurt on a job, my son got sick, and it looked like the other two were getting scurvy, so we went back to town. We had to split up for a few years so I could get “no food stamps” just the good old day “commodities” i.e. bread, powered milk, cheese and the worst peanut butter in the world, once in awhile you got real butter, but mostly lard…oh, did I say I had to walk a mile too….no that’s not true I just thought I throw it in for the young ones here…

Anyways, I guess we all have done some flipflopping and have changed our minds about a few things, you got to walk in high heels, snow shoes, snikers, sandals and go barefooted to understand how the other gal/guy feels…sees things. We all have our idea of the good life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Frontiers are harder and harder to come by tho so I’d like to keep some of if still out there on the planet for a bit.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

kylehobbs:

What it now comes down to is a Great PR and Propaganda tool, especially as to recruitment to the Insurgent ranks, if he’s anywhere near an attack, wether he gets hit or not, others Will be Killed and Maimed, Hopefully that won’t happen, but like Brandon says in his post, She Shouldn’t Come Close To A High Security Clearance if somehow the GOP pulls this off!

She’s on the same UnInteligent thought process that prevails and has, just like the Torture Issue, the Treatment of Innocents and the Killing and Maiming of tens of thousands of, the Mercs In-Theater, everything negative Blows Right Back On The Troops, All The Troops, which is bad enough but leaves us where there’s No Condemning if They, or anybody in the World, Do Same type of things!!!!

8 09 2008
joy - fl

This lady scares me. We keep waiting for the MSM to pick up on this but they keep pulling back. If this were Hillary it would be out there for every one to see.

go Obama/Biden

8 09 2008
RandyH

Misskae-

If you view the YouTube above from it’s YouTube page and view other videos from the same user, you will see a couple of vids from the Christan Exodus people, apparently at the same convention. The wallpaper looks the same like it’s at the same location. Also some secessionist group from Texas. There is also a Part 2 of the AIP video shown above. Kinda creepy groups – all of them – if you ask me.

And people thought Reverend Wright was scary…

8 09 2008
Mayflower

This is great stuff, AK, but how much will the ‘glowing public’ even pay attention after reading the NYT’s puffery this morning? Help, somebody find something & get it MSM, because even the NYT is purring about her now!

8 09 2008
Mayflower

(Must get kidlets off to school — will check back later)…. Meanwhile, folks, please tell me I’m just not fully caffeinated yet & that I misinterpreted that Times piece

8 09 2008
lemonfair

Forget Gibson, it’s Roger Simon at Politico who needs to know about this. I saw Simon on either CNN or MSNBC when the story first came out saying the AIP membership was a big deal . Reminded people that the Republican party took a stand pretty early on (think Lincoln) that states didn’t have a right to secede. He hasn’t written anything about it though, so I expect he just took at face value that she wasn’t a member when the McCain campaign said she wasn’t.

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

To MissKae –

Well, thank goodness SC won’t lead the succession this time!!!! (LOL) I have been saying for years that Carolinians in some rural areas consistently vote down education because to “….keep ’em dumb is to keep ’em happy.”

8 09 2008
McSame

Did anyone really think that Charlie Gibson was going to grill Palin and ask her tough questions? Please. I predict she won’t do *any* real interviews, at least not until the poll numbers start going down. And I’m not sure that will happen, unfortunately.

8 09 2008
lemonfair

Mayflower – Sullivan’s headline on the NYT piece is: Your move, McCain. I think many people will read the NYTimes piece and see someone trying to run their job on the side while they take care of the kids. Kinda hard to see how you do that when you’re VP or president. Puts into perspective saying she needs to see what it is that “the vice president does all day.”

The thing that fascinates me that I haven’t seen anybody write about is how this “modern woman” keeps her children in the dark about things until the last minute. Didn’t tell them about the pregnancy until she was 7 months along, didn’t tell them about the Down’s syndrome diagnosis until Trig was born, didn’t tell them she was going to be nominated VP until they’d arrived in Ohio thinking they were celebrating their parents wedding anniversary. “Oh by the way, kids, I’m now going to put you in front of the spotlight for 2months or 4 years. sorry you didn’t know that when you packed.”

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

to JimStaro –

If you are in the Carolinas, HOW CAN I HELP YOU get veterans to get some media attention that not everyone in the military is automatically for McCain? I heard at church yesterday (and this rung back to the 60’s) – that if we voted AGAINST McCain, we were voting AGAINST our sons and daughters in the service. This is critical as we are swing states, and we need to time this. It would be great to do on 9/11 and hopefully mitigate some of the Republicans smart PR move to put the Hockey Mom in the media. HOW CAN I HELP?

8 09 2008
White Agate

Waitaminnit, so there are Christians who are trying to corral a state into seceding so they can form their own theocratic country? FIrst Idaho, then SC, now Alaska? Utah is already taken. Does this have to do with End Times/The Rapture? Do we want people in positions of power who believe in The Rapture and would govern accordingly? Personally, I’d like to plan a little better, myself.

Boy, this is interesting.

Another thought: how will Gov. Palin deal with being away from Alaska for so long in D.C. Seems she’s pretty attached to the state (of mind). All these politicians who ‘hate Washington,’ but can’t wait to get there to ‘reform it.’ Hmmmm. But she really seems to need to be in Alaska. I don’t think Gov. Palin would do well long-term away from AK, and then we as taxpayers would have to fly that family back and forth to their home base.

The video is reminding me of my crazy uncles.

8 09 2008
lemonfair

Jim Staro and Proud2busa: This article from USA today might help:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-14-military-donations_N.htm

Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama’s presidential campaign as they have to McCain’s, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

*snort* Good one!🙂

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Whoops – meant to quote Fredrik on that:

“Can’t we just call her Secessionist Sarah? ”

That’s what I was laughing about. *lol*

8 09 2008
Harley

Have you guys read about this?

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/msnbc-yanks-olbermann-matthews.html

Anyone up for joining me in writing MSNBC and threatening to tune them out
and take note of their sponsors and writing them as well ?

8 09 2008
MJC

It’s not just 600,000 in Ohio: LA, FL, MI, KS, NM, CO, and NV
Votes being purged!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/8/0144/73374/148/589714

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Thank you, Lemonfair. This should be FRONT AND CENTER OF EVERY OBAMA AD. . . and then follow up with the Republican accusing Obama of being “uppity” (those are fightin’ words here in the South) and THEN CLOSE WITH CLINTON’S 92 SLOGAN: “…IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID. You daddy couldn’t fix it; you really messed it up, and now someone who voted for you 90% of the time wants to try….?” Surely, AMERICANS CAN GET THOSE SOUND BITES.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Proud2BUSA:

Veterans in NC are already doing alot, you can go here: http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/NCforObama

And join, you can also use their Group Page and search ‘NC Veterans’ which should bring up the NC groups, some on specific issues others in the locals!

Many are also heavily involved in Congressional Races, which frankly are abit more important to me than the presidential, always have been. As to Presidential I look more at who the Candidates are surrounding themselves with in the primaries which gives a window in the type of administration they bring in. McCain was already suspect but this pick just blew him out of the water, and only guessing but will totally bring his campaign down!!

Everyone should focus more on those who are close to, not just the Candidate, personality or speeches, that goes for any election but especially federal elections!

8 09 2008
ReaderInMD

The risky, crazy-ass dash to give birth in AK so that they wouldn’t have “a little fishpicker from Texs,” the weird “well if it’s good for AK comments re the vice presidency, and now this…

Jon Stewart, go wild.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Didn’t tell them about the pregnancy until she was 7 months along,

Saw a cut of a talk with her sister about Palin and Hubbies secrecy about that and other things, her excuse “That just how they are, private!” or similar to that. Can understand with certain things as to privacy and announcements, But Leaving A Family Out Of The Loop On Things That Effect That Family Is Just Plain Sick and Shows an Irresponsible Mindset!!!

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

JimStaro – thanks – I just joined this group. Please let me know what I can do. I agree that our local politicians are important.

8 09 2008
lemonfair

Harley – one of the reports I read this morning suggested Olbermann initiated the discussions about this himself. Apparently they aren’t intending to rein KO in, but to get him out of an environment where he supposed to present himself fairly objectively. I thought he did alright during the debates, but it’s really a conflict of interest for him.

He doesn’t have any interest/intention of presenting himself as a “journalist,” but as a commentator, so he can’t be himself if he’s anchoring. Chris Matthews thinks he’s being objective, but he just falls in love with the latest person to speak.

I am discouraged though that MSNBC has plenty of right wing representation (Buchanan, Murphy, Scarborough, for starters) and Brokaw and Gregory secondarily. Mitchell leans right but I think tries to be more objective, as is true of ChuckieT as well.

8 09 2008
ReaderInMD

Fuggedabout the letters to the media. *People* have to start showing up–en masse–where ever McCain and Palin appear. Holding signs, shouting the questions. They’re going to avoid the MSM and take it to “the people” and small towns where folks and local media are just thrilled to get the limelight.

8 09 2008
kylehobbs

The repubs have done an excellent job of making Sarah ‘untouchable’. I think the media didn’t grill Obama sooner because they feared being seen as racist… well, they started asking questions and only idiots called them racists. Now McCrap’s team has masterfully pulled a deliberate move to get the same ‘bright light’ attention… and as long as the media doesn’t catch on for 2 months than they’ve got an advantage. Well thanks to bloggers like Mudflats and pushy journalists were sure to get people demanding answers.
In response to Jim,
I understand the gravity of Palin’s actions. Looking at the difference between how Biden and Palin have talked about their respective sons is like night and day… hell the difference is just as stark as an Obama admin vs. a McCain admin.
This is like a very suspenseful movie in which you’re praying for a happy ending.

8 09 2008
ReaderInMD

White Agate, as a “local” I’ve thought about the same thing. How in the hell is Give-me-the-great-outdoors Mr. Snow Machine going to deal with living in urban, congested DC? Added to all her other issues: new grandchild, special needs kid, and, oh, yeah, the vice presidency, she’s potentially going to have one unhappy husband. Would he stay back in beloved AK with some of the kids?

8 09 2008
epw

Good morning,
I’ve been enjoying reading your blog since Sarah Palin entered our lives.
I hope it’s alright that I posted this in the progressive blog I belong to.
Very creepy stuff..
You’re wonderful!
Contact me at the email I left if you need to, please.

8 09 2008
Harley

Well, since KO and Matthews have not really been aired since before both conventions, I will wait until this evenings interview with Barack on KO
and see what takes place.
But I will never back down from anything I see as just plain wrong.
Letting any candidate dictate who is able to be on TV is wrong on so many levels.

8 09 2008
Harley

Talk about leaning right and being objective !

Is anyone else listening to Mika Bryzinski or however you spell her name
this morning? She is pissing me off !

That did it for me, mocking Obama for his statements about
“are we stupid” and using body language as if to say ” Take that Obama “.

No more MSNBC this gal. Except for KO and Rachel of course.

8 09 2008
VA Democrat

I truly don’t understand why this AIP thing isn’t a bigger issue. I guess the mainstream media are now afraid to criticize Palin, but this and her ethics problems are so much more important than the Bristol soap opera. Imagine if Obama had belonged to a group that said outright that they “hate America.” They would crucify him. How can the fringenuts justify Palin’s involvement in this group? I wish journalists would go after this and force the wackos to explain why it isn’t a problem.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

lemonfair:

Already known but Thanks fir the remind.

Many of us are also in contact with Veterans of and Active Duty/Family members of OIF and OEF, there’s more than just the donations, like the Occupations Themselves!

But keep these coming up, it helps inform the greater majority, the civilians.

One thing to say, a group of Veterans, Military Personal, but especially Military Spouses, and Advocacy Groups had been trying to get a ‘Townhall’ debate, down in Austin TX {Fort Dix if memory isn’t clouded}, during the Primaries, they couldn’t get everyone on board to agree to it. Than they tried a Presidential Candidate debate, had the hall set up, had CBS saying they would Televise, and had a preliminary date, last month, that could have been moved depending on schedules. McCain halfheartly agreed, Obama didn’t said they had other conflicts. Well Obama ended up going to Hawaii for vacation, and as for McCain they never used that as a Campaign Point against Obama, showing he too didn’t want it to take place.

So what did the above do, Pissed Off Alot Of People, and the surrogates/base, especially the Dems were wholeheartly against it, which Pissed off those involved More!!

The ones who Deserve a Face to Face are the ones who are the only ones Sacrificing Lives for this Country, everything happening in the economy, jobs, you name it comes about because of the Occupations, Everything!!!

8 09 2008
ReaderInMD

Interesting post at the Washington Monthly about McCain’s temperment issues:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014602.php

8 09 2008
Quiet Advocate

According to today’s WA Post, MSNBC/NBC is removing Keith Oberman and Chris Matthews “as the anchors of live political events, owing to growing criticism that they are too opinionated to be seen as newutral in the heat of the president campaign.” This is a serious and frightening sign of more to come. While FOX can do a 24/7 biased reporting on behalf of the Republican Party, those who want to voice opinions other than theirs are silenced. This is simply not democracy. Yes, Keith Oberman is at times emotional, and we know that. But that is what makes his show special. He is not afraid to speak up. Where would the investigation of Palin go without those voices? PLEASE call or write to MSNBC/NBC (phone 212-664-4444, fax 212-664-4426) and voice your voice. While the Republican power may be far too strong, with Karl Rove still alive and kicking. Are we going to allow this country of another Swiftboating? This is Shiftboating of 2008, where the Republican Party shifted boats (on their ethics) for the sake of winning, not for the future of our country, in defense of democracy.

MSNBC/NBC: Call 212-664-4444 and asked for “Viewers Service Comment Line.” A recording will come on, and you can read your complaint. I read the above message. Please use your own words. If you avoid your true emotions (mad, angry, insane, etc.) and remain calm, you’ll be heard.

You probably can follow up with a fax: 212-664-4426.

8 09 2008
lemonfair

Harley – yeah, I heard Mika and then turned off the teevee. I don’t think a lot of people agree with her. (She was complaining about a claire shipman column about the difficulty of balancing 5 children with this sort of job, and how SP’s choice isn’t what most women in “this generation” make.) Mika was reacting just the way McCain is hoping she will. Not sure how many actual votes it will get her though. Mika’s dad, BTW, if you don’t know him, is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter’s Nati’l security adviser.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Harley what lemonfair says is what happened, and isn’t really a big deal, and the jist I get is that they may be added as talking heads, they’re just not going to be the Anchors. I don’t think either were comfortable in those positions for differing reasons.

They, especially Keith, will be Much Better if brought on as a spokesperson with his obvious tilt than trying to Anchor with same tilt, actually he’ll be able to open up even more and will beat down the wingers, just watch!!

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Would he stay back in beloved AK with some of the kids?

And who else?

Seems there’s alot of ‘key parties’ going on up there, just sayin, on those cold winter nights.

8 09 2008
lemonfair

Thanks all, by the way, for letting a newcomer jump right in – though I expect most of us are pretty new. Have been reading since the nomination, when Andrew Sullivan linked here. I’ve been posting this link on another blog I comment on quite a bit, because people need to know this stuff.

AKmuckraker has said in a couple of posts that “there are plenty of scandals out there,” but nothing really new or really scandalous seems to be coming to light. Is it still out there? the stories so far are all capable of being absorbed by the electorate and the media with a ho-hum.

8 09 2008
lemonfair

jimstaro –

I think KO will be a much more effective counterbalance to Buchanan if he’s free to let it rip.

I long ago discovered that as good as I am at chairing committees I’d much rather not, because as a member I’m freer to push a point of view.

8 09 2008
Quiet Advocate

P.S.

I, for one, watched the conventions almost 24/7 and was one of the earlier and most dedicated Internet “investigator” for 7 days over Palin, trying to find the truth behind the facade. If anyone should be fired from all programs, it should be Pat Buchannan. He was THE most unprofessional “analyst” on TV on Thursday and Friday – emotional and excited beyond belief. I also saw Buchannan and Matthews having a huge fight on air. I feared that Matthews would be fired, and Bucannan will win. FOX is untouched. They continue to manipulate or ignore the truth. The rest of the main media is sedated, under pressure to “behave.” CNN’s reporting is also not as aggressive as it should be. We are not talking about impartial reporting. We are talking about TELLING THE TRUTH, not being Republican or Democrat. Believe it or not, I’m a registered Independent (don’t ask me why). They just showed Clinton talking against McCain/Palin, and Mika got excited imagining McCain winning and in 4 years, watching Clinton and Palin running against each other. Bucannan is all smiles as I write. This is “objective reporting” for which Matthews and Oberman are being dumped??? I hope that everyone writes to MSNBC/NBC expressing your disgust. Those who want to see past the “SHIFTboating” tactics of Karl Rove want to at minimum keep Keith Oberman’s entertaining, sometimes emotional, anger over lies. At least we know where his heart is. I am assuming that Rachel Maddow will not be intimidated, but you might want to send a word of encouragement at the MSNBC/NBC phone # listed above. It’s the only voice we have left — leaving messages.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

lemonfair:

You got it!!

And now that the campaigns are over the only long term anchoring will the debates, or after, and the election.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

FOX is untouched

Who cares!!

Never watch, don’t care to, and frankly in the end they do more harm to themselves than help, it’s a fraction of the population that view!

8 09 2008
fredrik

I think it’s important to stay on track in all this mess. Comments about how Todd Palin is going to cope with life in DC or focusing on how SP is planning to take care of her kids while being a VP are counterproductive. How many male politicians has gone to DC without anyone asking questions about what their spouses or kids will be affected? The focus should be on the issues, abuse of power, pork, secession, budget mismanagement, wanting to ban books, creationism, religious extremism, racism, lack of experience. The list with things that matter goes on and on. So let’s stay out of the conspiracy theory and tabloid gutter.

8 09 2008
jackie

Holy shit!…and I thought us Texans’s were crazy.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

planning to take care of her kids while being a VP

It’s not ‘the kids’, hopefully she already bonded with them when they were babies, it’s the 4 month old ‘Special Needs’ Child, and her showing the total lack of concern as to what that means, which also leaves suspect just how Motherly she is/was with the others.

If she has been putting Self above Family all along, That Matters as to Understanding and Motives for decisions!!!!

And frankly shows her to be an Irresponsible Adult, one thing I Can’t Stand!!

8 09 2008
HamletsMill

jimsaro,

I am very grateful for your posts.

Ft. Dix is in New Jersey. I know because that was my point of embarkation when I went overseas! Perhaps you mean Ft. Hood (Ft. Head as it was known back during the Vietnam War in my and your time in the service.)

I am a member of VFP too. Have we met? I read the Commendation to Steven Spielberg from the banquet podium at the Minneapolis Convention (1997 or 1998 ?) for the film “Saving Private Ryan”. I sat with the people from CNN. Both Daniel Ellsberg and the late Hugh Thompson (the helicopter pilot at My Lai who landed between the Vietnamese and Lt. Calley and put his door gunners on Calley and his men) spoke that night. Paul Wellstone spoke the night before. I had a very nice talk with both he and his wife. If he had not died in that plane crash he might have been a Presidential candidate. Were you at that National Convention?

Again, I enjoy your informative posts here very much.

I’m off to work now!

8 09 2008
HamletsMill

Oops! Should have addressed you as “Jimstaro”. My bad!

8 09 2008
epw

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/08/sarah_palin_wolves/?source=newsletter

Just read this! have already sent to peta!
i feel like i’m reliving “the clampetts”
a cross between elly mae and granny?
gasp!

8 09 2008
syt

I saw this video a few days ago (it feels like weeks, I can’t keep up)! I might have dismissed it, but then I came across Palin’s an article on Palin’s inaugural speech. Some of my favorite highlights:

“Palin held her inauguration in Fairbanks — a first — to celebrate the state constitutional convention held here 50 years ago. And she drew parallels between that time in Alaska’s history — when she said delegate Bob Bartlett warned of outside interests exploiting the state — and today.”

“She told people not to be afraid of federal funding drying up now that Alaska’s powerful delegation is in the minority in Congress.”

“”It (the state constitution) concentrates clearly on resource development for our people. And it’s eerily prophetic. Today we stand on the threshold of a new frontier and these pioneers still speak to us from the past. At the start of the convention, delegate Bob Bartlett saw two distinct futures for Alaska: One of wise resource development leading to wealth and industry. One of servitude, stemming from loss of control over our resources, that leads to despair.”

“”There’s no part of the world where the people and land fit as they do here. Our natural resources are our lifeblood, and they’re commonly owned by all of us. We’re unlike any other state of the union. Here it’s the people who are in charge. We have rights and responsibilities to produce.”

http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/story/8467079p-8361038c.html

On a different note:
I am p*ssed that she is doing this interview on 9/11. Both McCain and Obama agreed not to run any negative ads on this day, but how will she get away with doing an interview without criticizing O? Just like McCain has done with most of his own ethics reform, he has found a way to stay within the lines while completely violating the spirit of the agreement.

And while we are on the subject, why has no one called Palin on her announcing her son’s deployment publically TWICE? This is a violation of OPSEC rules, and not only puts her son in danger, but his whole unit! Even if she is unaware of this, McCain surely should know that this is a violation of defense rules. Remember when Prince Harry’s safety was compromised?

Ok, I’m done. Thanks for letting me rant!

8 09 2008
fredrik

But she’s hardly the first politician with an infant. Or the first person who has to work while having a kid with special needs. Loads of people have to work long days to support their families. Being VP is probably easier to combine with this than working 60 hours a week at Wal-Mart. The reason this is even discussed is because she’s a woman. And who knows, Todd might be a great stay at home dad. I guess that most of us are more or less progressive and actually thinks that women should be able to take part in all facets of public life on an equal foot with men. SP will be a lousy VP, but not because of her family situation.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

I am gonna say this again, folks, there are a lot of wingnuts out there that want their state or region to secede. If you want to know about all of the groups out there, go to the Registry of North American Separatist Organizations http://middleburyinstitute.org/registrynorthamericanseparatists.html . That site is sponsored by the Middlebury Institute who’s stated purpose is

“The Middlebury Institute hopes to foster a national movement in the United States that will: place secession on the national political agenda, encourage secessionist and separatist movements here and and abroad develop communication among such existing and future groups, create a body of scholarship to examine and promote the ideas of separatism, and work carefully and thoughtfully for the ultimate task, the peaceful dissolution of the American empire.”

According to this group, AIP, along with Chrisitian Exodus, Southern National Congress Committee, League of the South, United Republic of Texas, and The Second Vermont Republic attended both conventions in 2006 (in Vermont) and 2007 (in Tennessee).

From their report of the convention:

“Cory Burnell, of the Christian Exodus movement that hopes to settle in and free South Carolina, mentioned in his presentation that a poll was taken last fall by the Opinion Research Corporation and broadcast by CNN on October 23, 2006. It found that 71 percent of Americans agreed that “our system of government is broken and cannot be fixed,” and another 7 percent agreed it was broken but “hoped” it could be fixed. That is astonishing in one sense, since we are not normally provided such insight into the popular mind, but it is a measure of what should be obvious—and it provides extremely fertile ground into which secessionists can plant their seeds.”

Interestingly, one of the news articles the Middlebury Institute references is from a rather rightwing group called RedState http://archive.redstate.com/blogs/leverkuhn/2007/oct/03/hang_them_hang_them_high suggests:

“So what should we do about the convention assembling today in Chattanooga? As private citizens, we can do nothing. But I know what the U.S. government should do. These people, by holding this convention, have conspired to commit treason against the United States. They have advocated the dissolution of the federal union and the destruction of American constitutional democracy as we know it. It is not enough simply to dismiss these people as flakes and nutjobs. They are execrable traitors, and the law has prescribed a penalty for what they are doing.”

As a Texan ex-pat, I have to say that we Texans always thought of these folk as nutty weirdos. I am now rethinking that idea… MSM needs to rethink it too.

8 09 2008
judi

We need to do all that we can do to elect Obama-Biden 2008. Send money & emails, make phone calls, go door to door. Together, YES we can!

8 09 2008
lemonfair

A favorite tee shirt I’ve seen online (cafepress.com) says simply

one house
one spouse
can use a mouse.

It’s the “can use a mouse” bit that I’d like to see Democrats focusing on a little more. The Republicans are hopelessly mired in the battles of a generation or two ago, and although they might be able to get people fired up about these issues, the issues of competitiveness with the rest of the world are critical. In Fareed Zakaria’s new book (which I haven’t read, just heard him talk about it) he says the rest of the world has moved on without us and doesn’t pay that much attention to us. It’s time for us to catch up to the rest of the world. It’s really important that we not let the Republicans hoodwink us into focusing on the wrong things. (But if there’s a genuine scandal out there, bring it on)

8 09 2008
Quiet Advocate

To Jimstaro- “Who cares?” I don’t watch FOX normally. Watched last night just to see how Palin would be portrayed in the one-hour bio. That fact is, though, that FOX is one of the few channels available in the rural areas without cable or a high-speed line. I live in the DC vicinity, but I was shocked to know that my friend, a teacher, cannot yet get a high-speed line or cable in MD (there are some areas tucked away). Think of the millions of voters like her. Like I said, I only watched it to see why so many women are falling for Palin (I’m a woman nearing SS age). I guess I don’t believe in watching or reading just what supports my opinions. I want to hear what the other side hears and then change or uphold my own opinions. It’s a tougher road to take. Believe me, it was a torture watching the Palin bio because of what they didn’t include, and FOX is rarely where my eyes go. Thanks for your comment, though. Today, I will detox my mind outdoors. To those who post, you are what democracy represents — the citizens’ right to seek the truth. And thanks to Mudflats for giving us a place to speak.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

HamletsMill:

Knew Ft. Dix didn’t sound right, it’s was Fort Hood.

We might have met if you’ve been to the many actions in DC, especially ‘Operation Dire Distress’ which took place on the first weekend of ‘shock and awe’, planned a month or so previous.

Haven’t made it to the conventions, usually to busy work wise, and Really would have liked to have been at the one in Dallas which start Cindy’s, and everyone else’s, Crawford Campout!!

8 09 2008
lemonfair

So glad to have found you people. I’m off to work. Will be back.

8 09 2008
tammy

Fredrik, on your point on the special needs kid and we shouldn’t be concerned:

Did you realize that most of the special needs kids in this country live in poverty?

Did you realize that even though these same kids have a right to a free and appropriate education, Congress nor any court has ever defined what an appropriate education is.

Did you realize that even these same kids are guaranteed services under the IDEA of 1997, amended in 2007, that as a parent you have to fight for these services constantly.

Did you realize that if you take a school district into arbitration it takes up to three years to get a result?

Did you realize that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled a few years back that the burden of proof in a lawsuit resides with the parents?

Did you realize that if a special needs kid gets SSI and the Social Security Administration does an IQ test, you as the parent can’t see the results of that test until that child turns 18. Its true. Its the law!!!

And finally did you realize that you, as a United States citizen cannot see a copy of the patriot act? They won’t let you see it.

8 09 2008
JenaGG

Interesting. I’m willing to bet that mainstream media won’t be covering this story … but let Rev. Wright say one single word about Obama. They seem to be prejudicial in what they deem as ‘scandal worthy’.

That’s all I have to say about that.

I’m officially on a news strike … except for this blog🙂

8 09 2008
jimstaro

syt ;

Move up the thread a ways, as to comment on her commenting about her sons deployment, Plenty Are, mostly OIF and OEF Veterans but also Veterans from other conflicts Including Me!!!

8 09 2008
kate

SYT:
good point about Prince Harry. I don’t know but maybe Palin doesn’t want Track deployed…maybe there will be a “can’t let VP candidate’s son go over there” movement.

I don’t mind that she’s being “interviewed” on 9/11. Maybe people will remember that they’re supposed to be looking for bin Laden and that Bush and all haven’t found him yet.

I’m sure Obama will stick to his part of keeping politics out of the day. Not so sure about the republicans.

8 09 2008
Laurie

@lemonfair

That is the first thing I thought of when I read about KO. I believe he WANTS to be in the “analyst” chair so that he can actually make his opinions known. I dont want to have to watch him tow the “unbiased” line on this one. I am all for fair reporting, but only when all news agencies do it. This is in some small way, tit for tat.

8 09 2008
fredrik

tammy (05:33:20) :

Well, I’m not an American citizen and live in a country where families with kids with special needs actually get the help they need (for the most time at least). My point is that we’re doing ourselves a disservice if we automatically start a bad mother angle. Just because of the reasons you list it is in many ways easier to take care of those special needs if the parent is the VP. One major reason why SP shouldn’t be VP is that USA needs to become a civilized country and provide healthcare to its citizens like every other developed country.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

“can’t let VP candidate’s son go over there” movement.

Won’t see that, even the nut cases on the public boards won’t go there, Biden’s son is also ready to deploy!!!!

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal
8 09 2008
Bizzaro

If you want to get the ball rolling on this,

Some one post this on dailykos.

If enough of us shout loud enough, we can make a sound that will be heard around the world!!

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

This should scare anybody from voting Republican!!!

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Some one post this on dailykos.

I think AK should post it up there, rather than even us posting the link to, many crosspost, including me and I’m not a writer, but with all that’s going on AK could bring an even bigger viewing, especially as to the media types and pols that lurk there!

Could become a Front Pager as well.

8 09 2008
tammy

Fredrik, special needs parents have been promised everything under the moon and sun before. Hardly any of it gets passed. Look at the debate on the immunizations. Alot of parents do believe that all of those shots all at once do cause autism. CDC denies this. But the CDC also denied that the autism rates were on the rise. At one point the CDC claimed all mercury was removed from the shots. Even though they knew this wasn’t true. There is still some mercury in those shots. Even with parents that do have medical insurance certain therapies and certain medical conditions are still not covered.

On the educational part, the states vary greatly on this. There is no federal standard in regards to an IEP. The basic federal standard is the child should have an IEP. There is no guidance for the states on what should be covered in the IEP. You will actually see parents move to a different state if the education is better.

8 09 2008
Scorpie

Found this blog just after SP was selected by McCain. It’s on my favs list along with a few others. Just gotta tell y’all that this person scares me to death. If even 10% of the stuff about her is true-she has no business being on any political ticket. God forbid, that they would win the election–I don’t want her that close to the oval office.

8 09 2008
Southpaw

Can anyone tell me what the point was of that New York Times article on Palin and Trig today?

8 09 2008
Quiet Advocate

To Laurie, it may be that we are all saying the same thing. We want to preserve a place for someone like Keith Oberman to speak, and one hour of Keith Oberman brings us concerns AND laughter. Maybe my fear that he would one day be removed of the “analyst chair” is unfounded. Let’s hope so. But again, it is MSNBC, not FOX. When I went to WV, MSNBC was not available, even at a major ski resort, let alone small towns nearby. You’d be surprised how, in many rural communities, FOX is “news” for many. ABC and CBS so far have not done hard questioning. I hope they don’t wait too long. I will now go weed my garden. At least I make a difference there.

8 09 2008
Gerri

I just sent this to CNN, MSNBC…I think america needs to know

8 09 2008
Diane

Do you think there’s a possibility that those groups you’ve mentioned (who are trying to get Alaska removed from being a part of the United States), might be working so diligently (and so effectively), that McCain chose Palin in the hope of stopping (or certainly slowing) down this movement?

After all, it’s clear the oil resource would now be ‘lost’ and no doubt McCain and most politicians in BOTH parties, would have a keen interest in keeping Alaska as part of the union.

If Palin were the vice president, she could NOT participate in any activity that would cause her state to secede from the union – at least that would stall any momentum for another 4 years.

This is an excellent video and write-up; showing us just how unstable and uncommitted this huge state is to being part of the United States.

Given that Sarah Palin signed an agreement with TransCanada on August 20, 2008, that gives them rights to build a pipeline (noting the value of this is worth about $500,000,000 as written in the documentation I read regarding this agreement), you notice the date of her signature and finalizing this agreement happens just a few days BEFORE McCain picks her as his running mate.

The pipeline that would be built by TransCanada TERMINATES IN CANADA, NOT IN THE UNITED STATES, so the lower 48 would still be facing the cost of transporting (and paying for) oil from Canada (which of course, is not part of our country). I’m not sure if there is any history of an individual state within our union, signing an agreement with ANOTHER COUNTRY, to tap a resource that might be exclusive to that given state. I do know the state I live in has certain water rights and ‘buys that’ from another state, but since they are all part of the USA, it’s not the same as buying or selling to another COUNTRY.

If anyone can add to this, or knows of a state who has made agreements with other countries INDEPENDENT of including the entire United States, and with the approval of our federal government, then we might add this information to the commentary.

We live 5 miles from a large Indian reservation, and they have their ‘own rules and laws’ separate from the laws of both our state and our government. I don’t know all the differences and how they cooperate with each other, but I guess the Indian nation and the land it holds rights to are about as close to having another ‘country’ within the confines of our lower 48 states.

I know the state of Texas adopted it’s ‘lone star’ motto based on its rights to secede at the time it became part of the country, so maybe a little digging into the history of Alaska (which obviously has been done here) and other states might prove to be just as interesting. Still, Alaska seems to have a very active group of dissenters, which could truly be disruptive to the rest of the nation as our government leaders would conclude.

A very very interesting and enlightening entry and video.

8 09 2008
tammy

From what I understand on the indian reservations is they are considered sovereign land. There was two cases in Minnesota recently dealing with this issue. One was on a dui. The defendant claimed that since he lived on a reservation the state or county couldn’t had given him a dui, that they didn’t have jurisdiction. Nevermind he wasn’t on the reservation at the time that he got the dui. The court ruled that the state could still charge him with a dui.

The second case dealt with the lottery. The defendant claimed since she lived on a reservation she didn’t have to pay any state or federal taxes on that lottery winnings. Even though she brought the ticket at a convenience store that wasn’t on the reservation. The court ruled she still had to pay taxes.

8 09 2008
Outback

Well, that fits her MO…
From her days as a “community organizer” Wasilla PTA member

“stealth candidates”

From Celtic Diva’s Blue Oasis ( http://divasblueoasis.blogspot.com/ )

scroll down to article:
Friday, September 05, 2008
Community Organizers = Sarah Palin!

snip…
“Anyway, according to Wasilla residents, part of Sarah’s goal at that time was to get the School Board to accept teaching Creationism
(http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html) in the schools. She was also rumored to be supporting “stealth candidates” for the school board…those folks who were evangelicals and wanted their religion to have more influence in the education process.”
snip….
Heh, indeed….

8 09 2008
MJC

HERES A VIDEO THAT WILL LIFT YOUR SPIRIT! MUST SEE!

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

Hey everyone please read this when you get a chance this is serious. The evangelicals are trying to get a ban on political endorsements from the pulpit overturned. And guess who is right in the middle of it all…Pastors Hagee and Parsley.

*********
CHICAGO — Declaring that clergy have a constitutional right to endorse political candidates from their pulpits, the socially conservative Alliance Defense Fund is recruiting several dozen pastors to do just that on Sept. 28, in defiance of Internal Revenue Service rules.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/07/AR2008090702460.html

8 09 2008
Jojin

Guys,
Check out this article. Sarah Palin is a part of a master branding plan. If Obama is likened to a Prius, McCain a Ford 150, Palin has been compared to a Camero. America is all about psychographics and branding – they have hit a bullseye.

http://adage.com/article?article_id=130800

8 09 2008
sosad

Clergy should have the constitutional right to pay taxes if they want to talk politics

8 09 2008
fixthebroken

I am depressed. Really depressed. By all measures of any iota of intelligence, this election should be a landslide for Obama. But here we are scrambling.

I am not sure what do to anymore. I have donated, spread the word, etc.

What can the Obama campaign do to stop the bleeding that is occurring? It has to do something.

*sigh*

8 09 2008
Jojin

Another interesting article from Ad Age – about new tactics from army recruiters

http://adage.com/article?article_id=130798

8 09 2008
timc

Double standard is painfully obvious. With Obama it is worse the Hillary b/c the underlying racism get played out. People can claim to be against him for any of these underlying issues to hide true feelings.

Agree with analysis on 538 this morning. Obama needs to push out some focused commercials. The campaign seems lost in dealing with this issue. The nastier Repubs get the more fired up their base. Getting nasty turns off a lot of Dems.

Any news on how much $’s Obama brought in last month? Don’t think they have released numbers yet. Hope they have a lot and start spending later this week to combat Mc/Pal.

8 09 2008
kimosabe

Palin’s advocacy of aerial “hunting” of wolves could do more to sink the McCain ticket than any other issue. When this program was first proposed in Alaska a number of years ago, illumination by the national media and public outcry from “Outside” eventually ended it. It has only recently, and quietly, come back under the Murkowski and Palin regimes. The fact that Palin not only supports, but adamantly encourages, the slaughter of wolves from airplanes and helicopters will turn off a great majority of voters who might otherwise identify with her.

Someone else posted this link above, worth repeating:

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/08/sarah_palin_wolves/?source=newsletter

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Cynthia, this went on last year. TD Jakes, and a lot of the mega churches encouraged their members to vote for GWB. Even though so many of them are living paycheck to paycheck. They will do anything the pastors of the mega churches say, without any question!

8 09 2008
makeitgoaway

This is a story that most likely not make much of an impact on voters (although it should). Fact is that there are many fringe groups out there just like the AIP and most people don’t pay attention to them. I found this video (along with the one with SP addressing the convention) the day after she was announced. It’s been out there for a while and the MSM, although aware of Todd’s involvement with them, just doesnt seem to be interested. I think it’s a huge insight into what SP is about and should concern voters. They not only need to see these videos but need to have the very well-written and concise history that our host has given us.

This is ‘right-wing whacko’ stuff (as Mort Kondracke referred to SP during The Beltway Boys yesterday) that needs to get out there. Just as her pastors comments about Jews. I remain convinced that though that the only way to truly get the public to see this stuff is to get it into the conservative media through shows like The Beltway Boys, O’Reilly and Hannity/Colmes. There are voters out there who may have been sitting on the fence, not wild about McCain (who is doing a pretty good job of distancing himself from Bush now), not wild about Obama but are now enchanted with the Gov. Those are the ones who most likely wouldnt have voted in the first place but may, now that Palin is on the ticket….unless they see something that is so completely objectionable about her that they go back to their original position of sitting this one out.

The key issues of this election will remain the economy and Iraq with the economy being the biggest issue. Right behind is healthcare. Obama’s positions have been out there for nearly two years. The task for the Obama campaign is to continue to hammer that connection with Bush and register new voters.

And we, as perhaps more informed than the average electorate need to continue to press the MSM to ask the tough questions, dig harder to find the answers and present it fair and balanced to the voters.

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Not last year, but the last election in 2004.

8 09 2008
sosad

I said from the start this AIP thing is a knife in the back to hillbillies,country and western , military ,christians all McCain’s support base .
This is what needs to be hammered and asked by everyone who gets a chance .
Question– was your husband a member of AIP ?? yes or no please
Question — please explain what AIP is for us
She would be a dear in the headlights ,, uh ,, da,, eerr , uumm , well I have more executive experrrr ,,, please Mrs palin AIP ?,, Yes but I turned down the bridggggg,, please Mrs Palin about AIP ?,,,, I must say community organnnn ,, One more time Mrs Palin the AIP thing ??

8 09 2008
Political Amazon

It is correct to assume that we can expect nothing from Charles Gibson.

In the Democratic Primary “debate” between Obama and Clinton, Charles Gibson was one of the “moderators” and it was discovered that he had allowed Sean Hannity to give him questions for the “debate.”

If you want Gibson to ask certain questions of Palin, you might as well just email them to Hannity, and skip Gibson, the middle man.

8 09 2008
antsy

Clergy who make political endorsements, and their churches should also pay taxes, just like any other business.

8 09 2008
tammy

Fixthebroken, call the national headquarters and tell them he has to fight back and fight back hard. As it is , cnn nor msnbc will cover his campaign anymore. Or so it seems. They say Obama knows how to play hardball because of the way Chicago politics is played. Well its time for him to start playing that hardball.

8 09 2008
xero

I, for one, am extricating myself from the “what if” or “what will she” or “how will she” mindset. Nothing she can say, or do, will alter my position or my vote. It really isn’t about them (to a large degree, IMO), its about US. Only one thing can determine whether S/M`08 will be elected, our vote.

The media, FWIW, will heat up this week.

8 09 2008
permaterry

Is there a secessionist party for the rest of us? I don’t want to live in McPalin’s Amerika.

8 09 2008
tammy

On her church, why are they not playing those tapes over and over again like they did with Rev. Wright? By the end of the Rev. Wright issue we knew every line on every tape they played. Are we seeing sexism?

8 09 2008
marti

As I get ready to go to work, I would like to thank MJC for posting the youtube of the inspiring message from Obama. Just a quickie lift – I have to believe that the american people will come through with saying no to a right wing state. since last friday I have been way too freaked out – all I can do is volunteer, donate and hope that we pick someone for President who is reasonable, and committed and Democratic!!!!

8 09 2008
sosad

Keep it simple people ,, get some bumper stickers / t-shirts made
sell them on e-bay ..
My other pitbull is a bush
my pitbull talks to reporters
McCain/bush Palin/cheny
Lets here the bumper sticker of the day ,, what do you have ???

8 09 2008
Olive

Southpaw:

The point of the NYT article about Sarah Palin and Trig was to (a) lay down the facts of her pregnancy, labor and delivery (b) review those facts in an unbiased manner to allow readers to develop their own opinions.

I found the article to be quite informative and well written. My take away is that Sarah Palin is a very unusual person with an unorthodox decision making process. I’ve never met an adult woman who would consider hiding her pregnancy, regardless of the challenges of the pregnancy. The article left me with more questions than answers, and as the weeks move forward, I hope we will glean more about what makes Palin tick. We have to start peeling away the layers of Palin to reveal what her past decisions can tell us about her future leadership capability.

At this point, it is clear to me that this is a woman who is phenomenally adept at deceit.

8 09 2008
King Baeksu

Mudflats, is this AIP site the real McCoy?:

http://www.akip.org/

“Press release with corrections from the AIP Chairman, Lynette Clark.

“Most recently I have pulled the entire record regarding the Alaskan Independence Partys’ 1994 Convention file. I went through all the video, audio and paper records for that function. Something I should have done earlier before making the statement that Governor Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. For that I humbly apologize to Governor Palin, and, to both national and local press, and media.

“I, foolishly, repeated and accepted as fact what an officer of this membership shared with myself, and husband Dexter Clark, over a year ago. My statement was incorrect regarding the Governor’s membership. What was correct was that Todd Palin was a member, that Sarah as a candidate for Governor appeared at the AIP Convention in 2006, and sent a welcoming DVD to the membership at the 2008 AIP statewide convention. Those truths do not take away my fault in mis-speaking regarding her membership. For that I do take full responsibility. I hold Governor Palin in high regard, I believe she is far and away the best individual Alaska could have as Governor, and as a woman, mother and wife is one of the best examples walking!

“Thank you and again, I apologize to all.

“Lynette Clark, Chairman
Alaskan Independence Party
September 3, 2008”

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

I would agree 100% they should have to pay taxes. I have believed for years mega churches especially are a business and should be treated as such!!! If you are going to politicize your congregation and tell them who to vote for then you should use the IRS rules and guidelines of a business.

8 09 2008
Blue Idaho

Wow, Mcain better watch his back with this chick. I thouht people in Idaho were scary. CNN is going to do Vice Presidents revealed. Someone send them this tape.

8 09 2008
Raingods

Sosad,

I also recommend setting up a blog and posting everything we’ve found out about Palin; links to mudflats and other sites that have an interest in seeing the truth come out. Put the url on every forum, email and whatever else you can. Though my blog isn’t overly political, I’ve posted some things so far on this fiasco and plan on more in the coming days and weeks, as time, work and Spore (it really is an addictive game!) permit.

8 09 2008
makeitgoaway

Sosad,

I agree completely…and thats why the media that the demographic you’ve cited watches should be the ones to work that story. Not only ask if her husband was a member of the AIP but if she was as well. You simply cannot refute the video evidence that’s out there. As much as a jerk as O’Reilly can be, I do think he might just give this one a good run.

Sadly, SP will get those softball questions from Gibson and the supporters will flaunt the ease with which she carries herself in the interview. And sadly, as long as she remains the central focus of the press, right or left she’ll continue to draw attention from the issues and from Obama. I really don’t think the Repubs really anticipated the smokescreen benefit of this pick. I really think their intent was to pick up disaffected women voters and the fundamentalist wing of the party who really can’t stand McCain.

8 09 2008
tammy

On McCain, and I don’t remember who said it. But he was on Countdown. The Iraq and Afghani Vets group maybe? He said that McCain wanted to bring back the draft. Only Countdown has covered this angle. Probably another reason McCain and the republicans wanted Keith out on the election coverage.

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

Olive she can say whatever the heck she wants to say. This woman is a liar and that’s all I have to say about the pregnancy issue. This woman is the governor of the state. I would have say there are cameras and video cameras on her a lot. So, to say there are no pictures or video of her is just a plain right out lie. The mccain camp has just covered them up. If you are the governor of a state and about to deliver a baby there is so much prep work that would have to into just you delivering that baby. Think about all the prep work that would go into take over in case of a crisis in your state. Who is the Lt Govenor. It’s a lie I just wish someone would stand up for our country and call her a$$ out. Sorry.

8 09 2008
Regi

They can’t even get people to believe Palin’s bridg to nowhere propoganda is an outright lie. Palin voters don’t care, like I said, they all think they’re on on the joke against those “damn liberals” and are just taking all of us down with them. I always have hope though !

8 09 2008
Political Amazon

Frederik, I disagree with your assessment that the only reason that her VP candidacy intersects with the discussion of Trig, a special-needs infant.

Sarah Palin and Trig are relevant for the following reasons:

1) Sarah Palin has pimped her family and her five kids for political gain, claiming they are one of the reasons she is qualified to be VP, like $2 hookers the Saturday night before rent is due. She brought them into the national debate, and used them to justify her run for VP. In discussing her family, we are discussing one of her “qualifications.”

2) She had the luxury of being able to make the choice to have Trig because abortion is legal. If she had her way, NO ONE would have the choice whether not to have any choice on what happens to their body. Sarah Palin has the resources to have Trig raised by attendants. Most Americans do not have that option. So for her to claim that she is able to be in politics and also mother 5 kids is hollow, since she does not truthfully add “…because of my financial resources, I can hire out the raising of my kids, an option most people donot have.”

3) In holding her family up as a family-values icon, she opens up the reasons to investigate this idea. A pregnant teenage daughter, a son who may have been forced to sign up for the Army to avoid prison time, and a Down syndrome infant being raised by hired help–not the kind of “family values” most Americans would say is a good reflection on Sarah Palin’s mothering.

4) Sarah Palin, by many accounts, was an AWOL mother, spending little of her energy and attention on her family. Her kids have major problems. I don’t think this is indicative of good family values OR her skills at setting family priorities.

5) Finally, Sarah Palin herself decided to have Trig, even though she knew he would require an incredible amount of family resources to raise. She–the one person who can decide yay or nay, said yay. With the right to make choices comes the right to have responsibility for the outcomoe of those choices. Sarah Palin did not take responsibility for Trig. She drop-kicked him to hired help 3 days after he was born, and now is launching on a political race that will make her almost totally AW(OL from her family, including Trig. Unfortunately, this is very similar to how she has been as a mayor and governor: good and rashly making changes or starting projects, but piss-poor on follow-through.

In summary, Sarah Palin made her family part of the debate when she used them for political gain and as a justification of her running for VP. Basically, she threw her family under the bus-since she knew they had major problems–for her own political care.

Now the family is being humiiated by the truth about them being made political and international news. That’s nobody’s fault but Sarah Palin’s. She threw them under the bus, and she is responsible for their problems being discussed by the public.

8 09 2008
ocliberal

I don’t know if everyone has seen this site but I think it’s a very effective ‘talking point’ as it puts exactly into dollars and cents what the war costs showing the trade-off by community. I email it to everyone I know. Even conservatives don’t like to see money wasted.

Obama needs to bring the discussion back to what this war has cost this country not just in lives but how it has robbed out communities and children.

Palin is a smokescreen and as we all see a very effective successful one. As long we are all talking about her, we aren’t talking about what this election is really about – a failing economy, an unnecessary war and a president who doesn’t give a crap about us – the middle-class.

Take a minute and stick your zipcode into this calculator. It’s an eye-opener!


“The Cost of the War in Iraq – What it costs YOUR community!”/a>

Most of all – stay focused everyone. Palin is just a well-placed diversion. As someone noticed these ‘scandals’ of hers have been with her since Day 1. NO ONE CARES! She is eye-candy and is a true ‘pop-celebrity’. She is also smart and she isn’t going to say or do anything from no on out to jeapodize her ‘place in history’ because this woman is the personification of blind ruthless ambition.

But having said that, I think if the MSM could pick up on anything about her, this AKIP crap is very damaging. She spoke to their convention and her husband was a member of the party until 2002. If nothing else, lets ask her to explain herself.

Troopergate won’t stick, the family problems are just that – family problems. The earmarks and pork barrelling and out and out lies are ‘just what all politicians’ do, but I tell you if there is one thing that riles the good old right-wing American people it is those who don’t wear their flag pins proudly!

Come on MSM – followup on this story.

And AK, you rock!!!!

8 09 2008
ocliberal

I wish we could edit our posts. I apologize for misplaced bracket above..

8 09 2008
chloe

Here’s a good observation over at americablog from over the weekend:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/how-americablog-reader-asked-john-and.html

8 09 2008
GiGi

Why is my stomach flip flopping??
Why do I have this feeling of doom??
Somebody out there do something to stop this train…

8 09 2008
Miemaw from Texas

I have a question AKMuckraker.

Do you have in Alaska, an honest to goodness “Independent” party?
And, what did they have to do to get their candidate on the ballot in the gubernatorial race?

Reason for the question. Knowing how difficult it is for a 3rd party candidate to get on the ballot in any race in the lower 48. You guys had a 3rd, and 4th Party candidate on the ballot. Palin won over Knowles (D) in 2006, by a total of 17,459 votes. Independent Party guy got 22,443 votes. AIP guy only got ,1285.
Which if there truly are 13,000 AIP members…..Split the heck out of the vote.

We are hearing (reading) more subpoena talk. The committee that’s running this thing from the lege is supposed to meet Friday, to make a decision on that.

Heck, they might as well forget that whole thing. Or issue a report with the facts they have. If the parties won’t be deposed under oath, what they say isn’t worth what it takes for somebody to transcribe the drivel.

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

TO Cynthia in TX –

Oh dear, I have to work and this blog keeps pulling me back. I’m afraid I’m going to sound extremist this time, so let me preface by saying I love my Country. I love my Founding Fathers. I love their courage, dedication, tireless optimism in the face of low odds (remember General Washington trying to cross the Potomac in the dead of winter) for what they believe.

To the ADF:

The ADF is a private fund set up by Karl Rove, James Dobson and
others as they try to break the separation between church and state in our
Country. They have been trying to do this since Reagan or as JimStaro says: “Ray-GUN” I mentioned this last week on a thread, and as you guys say, got “crickets.” This WILL occur in the South. Now, I’m ready and willing to stand up and walk out if this occurs. I’ve already asked my Pastor where he stands because I cannot worship in a place that doesn’t believe in freedom of worship.

This is yet another attempt by Bush/McCain to continue messing with our
constitutional rights. If McCain gets in and gets to choose the next Supreme
Court justices, we won’t be as lucky next time as we were when Obama quietly took the Patriot Act up to the Supreme Court to be overturned. McCain mocked Obama on national TV highlighting this topic in his Acceptance Speech last week – and btw, they showed a lot of people laughing and clapping, even the Vets, but what McCain was REALLY WAS DOING was
spitting on our Bill of Rights and the very foundation in which our Country was founded. He’s telling you, me and even the people in that room that we. don’t. matter. This should royally pi** you off and should have caused a much larger stir than it has. No one even mentioned this in the press.

In 1802, Thomas Jefferson helped the Baptist Church in Danbury, CT on this very topic because they were concerned they were going to be discriminated against because of their religion.

This is the FIRST AMMENDMENT of our Bill of Rights and for those of us old DAR’s, the very reason many of our ancestors fled their homelands. If you haven’t done this in awhile, take out your BILL OF RIGHTS and read the Federalist Papers (okay, they are VERY dry, but at this point in our history, you may want to invest a little time in understanding what our founding fathers were trying to set up for us.)

First, the Republicans wanted to take away the right to fair and speedy trial –
something that the Supreme Court acknowledged as akin to going back to the days before the Magna Carta, and now they want to tell people how to believe and vote (oh, wait. They already do that.) . . they want to make it OFFICIAL which means they can set laws to their liking, and inprison whomever they please, and set society back hundreds of years.
We are not that far away from the extremists in the Middle East.

When Palin states that she believes the surge with Iraq is a “holy war” and then you see this going on, we’ve let the Country go to the crazies if we don’t stand up and do something.

Your/OUR Founding Fathers did not have a picnic either, people. We had royalists on this side who were PAID to take people’s farms, livestock, etc. We had the enemy who tried to make the various Indian tribes hate what we wanted to do (and then after they helped us, we Sc***d them, but that’s another story). We had little, if any, world support other than to destabilize Britain. Yet, they founded this Country against all odds.

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO GET DEPRESSED. THIS IS THE TIME TO STAND UP AND ACT. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO HOPE THAT THE MEDIA “GETS IT” AND STANDS UP FOR ALL OF US. IT IS TIME WE STAND UP FOR OURSELVES.

I’m an independent, and the democrats are a frustrating bunch. The Democrats did not stand up when Gore had the election stolen from him in 2000. If you do that again this year, the Democratic Party should no longer exist as it is just a lightweight and unworthy opponent to the Republican machine. Wake up! MAKE SURE YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION IS UP TO DATE. DONATE. VOLUNTEER. VOTE.

8 09 2008
Southpaw

Has anyone thought that Palin, if in power, might work to get the Family and Medical Leave Act repealed?

After all, she didn’t need to use it — going back to work right after the birth of a special needs baby, no less?

Is anyone else worried about this??

That law is essential to women being able to stay in the workplace. Most of us don’t have a job to which we can bring our newborns. (And we wouldn’t want to bring them to work, either.)

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@Proud2B
I haven’t gotten far into the comments, but this one jumped out at me.

If you are in the Carolinas, HOW CAN I HELP YOU get veterans to get some media attention that not everyone in the military is automatically for McCain? I heard at church yesterday (and this rung back to the 60’s) – that if we voted AGAINST McCain, we were voting AGAINST our sons and daughters in the service.

Sounds like a letter to the IRS reporting this is in order! Does your church happen to have recordings of sermons available for shut-ins? Get one, ASAP, and hang onto it!!! If it’s ok for the IRS to go after All Saints Church in Pasadena, CA for wondering in a sermon which candidate Jesus would vote for, without making any recommendations, this certainly ought to be fair game.

8 09 2008
mpalm

I visited Alaska last year and it is a beautiful place, but the last few weeks have been a real eye opener for me. Previously, I had no real idea of the level of corruption that existed there. Further, I had no idea that progressives were generally unwelcome. Because I am one of those, I have decided to never return.

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Hi Palmdale, CA – this was a statement in the congregation, not the pulpit. Oh gosh no – the pastor of my church believes in the separation at least publicly. I left an old Southern Baptist church a few years back because that pastor just couldn’t help himself and actually said ON THE PULPIT that if you didn’t vote for Bush, you were not voting for Christ. My son was 9 at the time. We got up, walked out, and never looked back. The problem is folks my age can make our opinions felt with our tithes. A lot of people no longer tithe and the Church is dependent on the wealthy few. voting with one’s pocketbook is always a good thing – good idea though, and maybe we should ALL monitor the various churches on the 28th to see what is said – this can backfire in my neck of the woods as you know faith is a very deep-rooted thing here, and we don’t want to feed the fuel that Obama is a (horrors!) MUSLIM who wants to take away our rights. We have to think like they think.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

I apologize for the length of this post — I just spent a little more time on Middlebury Institute’s site…

they are having another convention this year November 14-16 in Manchester NH http://middleburyinstitute.org/secessionconvention2008.html

I went clicking around on the info provided by some of the groups listed therein:

League of the South: “We also encourage individuals and families to personally secede from the corrupt and corrupting influence of post-Christian culture in America.”

Christian Exodus:

“ChristianExodus.org is moving thousands of Christians to South Carolina to reestablish constitutionally limited government founded upon Christian principles. It is evident that the U.S. Constitution has been abandoned under our current federal system, and the efforts of Christian activism to restore our Godly republic have proven futile over the past three decades. The time has come for Christian Constitutionalists to protect our liberties in a State like South Carolina by interposing the State’s sovereign authority retained under the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
“The Republican Party, which once promised to reduce the overbearing size of government, after gaining the reigns of power has expanded government to unprecedented reaches. Attempts at reform have proven futile for over three decades, and do not hold promise at the national level since Republicans and Democrats alike have abandoned regard for the Constitution and the proper role of government. ChristianExodus.org offers the opportunity to try a strategy not yet employed by millions of Christian conservatives who are geographically spread out and diluted at the national level. If we really mean to return to the Christian principles of constitutional American government, we must start at the local level and accelerate the process through mass migration. This is the Christian Exodus.
“ChristianExodus.org is orchestrating the move of thousands of Christians to reacquire our Constitutional rights by electing State and local officials who will interpose on behalf of the people and refuse to enforce illegal federal acts.”

United Republic of Texas (nb: apparently they’ve already seceded):

“Today, October 26, 2006, we officially announce the United Republic of Texas © (URT), the sole legitimate national government of the Republic of Texas (RT) under the Non-Aggression Principle (NAP). The URT was founded 9/2/2005 by the New Republic of Texas © (NRT) and the Historical Republic of Texas © (HRT). We are not associated with any militant extremist factions of the RT movement and do not advocate violence or fraud, as that would violate NAP. We are strictly neutral on religion and there is no place for prejudice in our government.”

Peoples of the North Star (VERY SCARY THESE GUYS!)

“Dedicated to building socialist power in the upper midwest. The Peoples (sic) Republic of the North Star is the intended communist governments of Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan. People living in the target areas are encouraged to share their thoughts on the creation of socialism in america (sic) within our lifetimes. Although this group is centered in Minneapolis, intent is to form a broad international support structure for local activities and affiliated groups, we encourage all who support resistance, communism, socialism, as well as workers, engineers, farmers, educators, and others with knowledge of guerilla warfare, history, and improvised tactics, especially in urban settings, to join in posting meaningful information here for the proliferation of the peoples struggle.”

The AIP membership of Palin’s husband and possibly Palin herself should not be allowed to become a “side issue” These groups are frightening and becoming well organized.

8 09 2008
LibertyLover

Too bad the corporate media won’t report on this.

8 09 2008
Jojin

The difference between the liberals and the repugs -is that the repugs are more “action oreiented” they have high energy foot soldiers who follow orders without question. We just sit around and THINK. The repugs chalk out “strategic action geared towards a specific result”. They are goal-oriented. We lean more towards an organic solutions and hope to win people over with good reasoning. But we are talking to people people who DON”T GET IT and NEVER WILL. They are not THINKING people. We need a new strategy.

8 09 2008
gizmo

This may not be news to y’all in Alaska, but here’s a link to a story about 1100 emails that Palin doesn’t want you to see….

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9620_sarah_palin_secret_email.html

8 09 2008
chloe

I hope somebody makes copies of these pdf files before they’re washed from the intertube:
http://liz-seattlespeak.blogspot.com/2008/09/i-dont-support-palin-because-of-what.html

I can’t, I’ve gotta work. . .
Renovations on Governors Mansion
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/Admin/Veto/2008proj45391.pdf

$100 for TBI — talk to VA instead
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/bills/MHT_Report_Letter.pdf

Alaska Vetos
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/08_OMB/budget/Enacted/SB53_Vetoes_6-29-07.pdf

Governor’s House Deferred Maintenance Projects
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/Admin/Veto/2008proj45598.pdf

Endangered Species Act- Beluga Whale
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/Brix_beluga%20comments%207-31-07%20commissioners%20b%26w.pdf

Palin Letter Opposing Beluga Whales
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/Hogarth_beluga%20ltr%208-1-07_Palin%20b%26w.pdf

Administration collaborate with ConocoPhillips
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/pdf/Conoco-Meatball_40108.pdf

Facility Deferred Maintenance
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/Admin/Veto/2008proj45546.pdf

Replace Roofs
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/Admin/Veto/2008proj45546.pdf

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (“AGIA”) and the AGIA Process
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/agia_faqs_11808.pdf

Wasilla Resolution for Gas PIpeline
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/pdf/WasillaResolution.pdf

Public Comments and Responses
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/pdf/findings/11-Appendices/Appendix%20A%20-%20Public%20Comments%20and%20Responses.pdf

Consultant Qualifications
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/pdf/findings/11-Appendices/Appendix%20E%20-%20Consultant%20Qualifications.pdf

Lack of Open Access for oil Terminals
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/pdf/findings/11-Appendices/Appendix%20R3%20-%20Lack%20of%20Open%20Access%20for%20LNG%20Export%20Terminals.pdf

deepening and ongoing investigations into political and corporate corruption in Alaska
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/PublicApplications/Declined/midamerican_letter.pdf

John Deere Discount
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/CapBackup/FY08/Loader.pdf

In response to state investigation
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/Department%20of%20Justice.pdf

Letter to Senator Lieberman, also emailed Ted Stevens, Don Young
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/2007_11_09.PDF

Resource Management Plan, also emailed Ted Stevens
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/SOA_TLMP_CommentsBW.pdf

Special Session on Oil
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/Special%20Session%20Proclamation%209-4-07.pdf

Oil Special Proclamation Palin
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/pdf/Special%20Session%20Proclamation%209-4-07.pdf

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

SwinePrincess🙂 LOL. So, are you saying there are people in Texas who think they seceded from the Union? ?? ?? ? Gosh, don’t you just wish for Ann Richards during these times?

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Jimstaro
I wish I could take heart in your prediction that Palin will bring McSame down. Our local paper invited letters on whether Palin would help his campaign. Nearly 75% said yes — and more than a few suggested she should be the top of the ticket!

My little point of blue light up here is barely flickering this morning. Please, please tell me I’m dreaming and that all this isn’t real.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

tammy:

Keith out on the election coverage.

Keith is Not Out Of Coverage, neither is Tweety!!!!!

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Proud2BUSA (07:15:51)
do you have a link for “ADF” or did I miss it earlier? I know I missed your previous post on it…

8 09 2008
tammy

How did they phrase that? He will not be one of the moderators. He will just be one of the political pundits. Which means, you won’t see that much of him on debate night or election night.

On the family leave act, was the state legislature even in session when she had the baby? And is it true the legislature is only in session 90 days a year?

8 09 2008
sosad

They don’t need to ask her if she was an AIP member , she will just say no ..
Bad question ..
just ask if her husband was and he was ,, even if it was for a day he was .
Then ask her what is AIP , again and again ,, then again ,, don’t let it go .
All the talk is nice but it does not stick ,, you can write ten thousand pages of baby this or blah blah that .
One bumper stick slogan that sticks is worth ten million dollars .
I would like to see on this and every site a post dedicated to 5 word or less slogans .. Just need one good sharp knife in the back slogan to stick and get in the press and and it will trump all the talk ..
You could explain all day the talking points to the other side and run out of air doing it .. One person walks by and blurts out a 4 word bumper sticker slogan that sticks in the brain and it’s over..
Same thing that makes a song stick in your head ,, the right combination of words . This needs to be made basic and simple ..
One “death” question at the right time and it’s over ..
Stand up at a town hall and ask McCain was Palins husband in AIP ?
He will state he does not know and quickly move on but the question was asked and the press will take over .
Everyone the can get into a McCain town hall and ask one “Death” question
go to a meeting ..
Ask Biden in a town hall ,, Mr Biden what is AIP about ?? I’m Not sure he will say ,, people in the press will take over ..

8 09 2008
judi

sarahcuda would be perfect as Marge Gunderson in a remake of ‘Fargo’ but not as vice president

8 09 2008
A Nonny Mouse

LAPEL PINS

Why has there been so little mention of the fact that Sarah Palin was wearing an Alaskan flag lapel pin when she gave her RNC speech, but not American flag lapel pin? In the year of the intense scrutiny of Obama on lapel pins, how come no equal treatment? This is especially serious in light of her connections to the AIP.

8 09 2008
Anonymous

Does Gov. Palin have a plan for preventing the government of the USA from telling lies, for example, there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, lies that take our nation to war?

I want answers to issues I care about. I want to be an informed voter.

Gov. Palin’s record doesn’t have the info I need. So, the (despised) media had better get some info for me pronto. Or, I might begin to feel that I am not being treated with “respect and deference”.

8 09 2008
tammy

I still say McCain -Palin = Feel Sorry For Me.

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

to Swine Princess –

Yep: http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx (interesting reading because they position themselves as the persecuted.)

I encourage you to sign up for their emails. here is their page on Religious Freedoms:

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8 09 2008
fixthebroken

Is it me, or are you concerned that any press interviews with Sarah Palin, and even the debate with Joe Biden, won’t prove a damn thing?

Basically, I am expecting scripted, softball questions to Palin on any press interviews. And, the debate, well, we all know how vanilla those questions can be. I mean, I could probably answer most the questions given a few weeks to cram some knowledge in my head.

I have this sad feeling Sarah Palin is going to skate through this election process unscathed and unhindered by the press.

8 09 2008
Memphis, NY

Sorry if this was already posted
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/07/AR2008090702460.html?nav=rss_print/asection

Declaring that clergy have a constitutional right to endorse political candidates from their pulpits, the socially conservative Alliance Defense Fund is recruiting several dozen pastors to do just that on Sept. 28, in defiance of Internal Revenue Service rules.

8 09 2008
White Agate

Thanks for the Mother Jones link, gotta digest that.

This was a response to Bill Kristol’s NYT column this morning. Needless to say, he has totally flip-flopped on the experience issue, about which he was criticizing Sen. Obama not so very long ago.

For eight months, we’ve been afflicted with Kristol’s Monday Morning Mendacity, as he’s tried to convince us that black is white, that up is down, that job losses are good for the economy, that more dead soldiers in the Iraq war make the nation strong, that the Bush Administration cares about the nation’s future or its people – but this column hits new highs, or lows, for contempt/deceit/hypocrisy. The media didn’t like Palin – the elite media? Kristol himself is a member of that pack, a leading member – two columns, guest spots on talk shows, invitations to the right parties – and everything that Palin is – small town, Christian evangelical, parent of a military member, hunter, snowmobiler, Wal Mart shopper, non-Ivy – Kristol isn’t. He disdains people like her, but they are useful to Kristol and the neo-cons who got us into two badly-fought wars, a shattered economy and level of American-to-American distrust unseen since The Civil War. The neo-cons like the war and the economy the way it is – good for profits, good for picking off suddenly depressed real estate – and as long as they can keep Americans at one another’s throats, the longer they and their friends can tighten their strangle hold on the economy and the reins of power. Kristol and company think that Palin and such are simply stupid – they’d no more break bread with them than they’d encourage “abstinence only” for their teen-age daughters or encourage their sons into the military – and columns like this, or Guiliani’s hate-filled rant at the Republican Convention or the praise of military service from people who ducked their own (Guiliani, Thompson, Kristol, Lieberman, Romney) are an effort to ensure that the wars will go on, that deficits will increase, that the economy will worsen, that Americans will hate each more tomorrow than they did today – and that the easily-manipulated McCain and his unwise-in-the-ways-of Washington running mate can continue the disastrous policies of the Bush Administration.

Also, there are plenty of election registration abnormalities happening right now, so we have our work cut out for us. Check your own reg and help where you can.

MPR had a great piece this morning about women and what they really think of this ticket. It’s interesting, it doesn’t really make that much difference with the registered Dems and Repubs, but it does with the Independents. All the more reason to get the word out there about the real issues, as above.

8 09 2008
sosad
8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX
8 09 2008
MJC

Hi Gigi:
You wrote “Why is my stomach flip flopping??
Why do I have this feeling of doom??”

Please watch this video. It will lift your spirit.
Please stay positive. YES WE CAN!

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

United Airlines is talking filing bankruptcy!!! and these people want to vote for John Mccain!!! my god what is wrong with people! It’s the economy and the war that is causing this pain for people and the failed polices of GEORGE W BUSH!!!

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Please, please tell me I’m dreaming and that all this isn’t real.

Look folks, She Wasn’t Vetted, the rovian’s just thru her out there, in less than a week she got Vetted by Regular Folks who now know More About Her than they do anybody else that’s run or running, they know more about her than everyone knows about their local congressional runners!

The press was also doing their Vetting, though they have to be more in depth than online citizens, they’ve also picked up what other stuff has come to lite, and I’ll bet there’s more as this goes along.

With this technology if the press, and there’s a whole bunch, doesn’t vet fully than the citizen will, just talking to like minded ain’t gonna do it, you’ve got to get the word out individually, what do you think those of us in the Pro-Peace movement have been doing while everyone was saying the movement was dead, We Just Do It Better Than We Did In The 60’s and 70’s!!

The luster will fall off this one, except for the guys who are looking at her and comparing her to their wives and girlfriends, their voting from between their legs, frankly where their brains can be found!

McCain won’t be able to bring the ticket up as she brings it down.

If you want to help get more involved in the campaign, and get involved with your local election boards, to make Sure It Isn’t Stolen Again!!!!!!!

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

Alaska what is the problem here? You give this woman an approval rating of over 80% and she has so many issues. Why are we are seeing something so different than they are? Why? I am just so confused!

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Cynthia, TX :

Put War than Economy, not visa versa.

The Occupations are what is causing everything else, the housing problems came about because the regulators weren’t doing the regulating, under the law, that they should have.

But it’s the Occupations First!!

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“Why is my stomach flip flopping??
Why do I have this feeling of doom??
Somebody out there do something to stop this train…”

i’m here to give you all a reality check this morning. mccain/palin CANNOT win unless they steal it. forget the polls for now and think about how much support Obama has and think about the number of swing states mccain has to win vs Obama. i live in a red state and all i’m seeing is support for obama. Obama WILL win some of these swing states. we cannot become negative like the repubs

my conspiracy theory is this
1. the media wants to keep it close so they have a story thus they make money
2. the repubs want to keep it close so they can steal it again

we cannot let them steal this election. get in touch with your local Obama campaign headquarters and find out what you can specifically do to make sure all the votes are counted in your district and that no “funny business” is going on.

write up some short talking points about one real issue (become an expert on that one issue) and start a conversation with someone in your community about your issue. americans are smart for the most part, you’re going to change minds.

take a deep breath, it’s going to be okay. we’re going to win this but like they said in the 60s, we’ve got to organize and stay cool. look at how calm Obama has been through all of this.

“”We cannot walk alone,” the preacher cried. “And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back.”

America, we cannot turn back…” … not with so much work to be done; not with so many children to educate, and so many veterans to care for; not with an economy to fix, and cities to rebuild, and farms to save; not with so many families to protect and so many lives to mend.

America, we cannot turn back. We cannot walk alone. ~Obama

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Why? I am just so confused!

Politics is local, Alaskans are independant minds, if a pol knows how to play that without stepping on the mass toes they don’t care what they do, that’s the same all over.

8 09 2008
clancop

Cynthia the problem isn’t them, it is you and the rest who believe this filth. Do ACTUAL research, don’t grab vague videos and take them as fact of something.

http://clancop.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/myths-and-mayhem-keeping-the-internet-honest-over-governor-sarah-palin/

http://clancop.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/dishonesty-and-distortion-in-the-press-both-amateur-and-professional/

The reason the people of Alaska like her the way they do is because they know most of this garbage posted on sites like these is just that, garbage.

It is pretty pathetic, almost cultish with the way you guys submit and accept whatever the “charismatic leader” tells you… Pathetic…

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I, unfortunately this time, agree with JimStaro. People are starry-eyed at a newbit, but we have to allow the cookie to stale and then crumble. It’s one of the reasons I KEEP coming back to the Founding Fathers. They are pretty much above reproach on the basics of this Country (not the Slavery issue, no doubt, even though Franklin demanded as early as 1787 to abolish it.) Everybody after them at this point in the game is controversial. Lincoln, Roosevelt, MLK, Kennedy, Reagan. Go back to the basics. The Republicans love their country so much? GOOD. WE DO TOO!!!! Now, let’s talk about that Constitution and the Bill of Rights and when this country TRULY had to worry about its border security – let me think: Revolution, War of 1812, Spanish/American War. . . . . . and yet no one yelled: “….oh please!! Take my rights away!!!” Get out of the far right controversy, focus on the founding fathers and see where they go. One of two ways:

– If they go FAR right, they will talk religion, which gets everything and their agenda out in the open, and you can quote Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Washington. . . .
– If they try to align, you can challenge why McCain and Bush have tried to ammend our Consitution so many times in the past 8 years (did you know that McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time).

Get out of the controversy and into a common ground. You can win then.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

clancop:

Nice Try, and Cute Name!!!!!

Sorry ace you are the one Who Needs The Education!!!

8 09 2008
rpahk

I would like to see all churches pay taxes like any other businesses.

8 09 2008
kimosabe

Cynthia:

Alaskans LOVE Gov Palin because: 1. she is “just like me” (or just like I wannabe); 2. she is credited with kicking the corrupt Murkowski adminstration in the arse; and 3. last but not least, she led the charge to give each and every Alaskan a $1200 cash “energy rebate” (in addition to the annual Permanent Fund Dividend, about $2000).

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

to Nancy-Indiana – YOU ROCK!

I have to go back to work now. You guys are so interesting and if everyone in our country was as engaged and involved as you are in this election, our Country could/WILL solves its ills. Thanks, Mudrats, again for your willingness to stand up to free speech.

8 09 2008
Lisa

First off, let me say I love this site. I enjoy reading all of the comments. I am an independent, and have voted both sides in the past. My husband is republican. Needless to say things have gotten very tense in my house. I really though a mixed marriage could work, now I’m not so sure. I think I called him a low information voter among other things. We’re no longer speaking. Before SP came on the scene, he had given up on his party. For the first time in his life he wasn’t even going to vote this year. With her drill everywhere attitude, he is now on board. Last night for dinner he got a can of oil on his plate. Let’s just say he was not amused, however I’m still laughing. I think today I’ll bake it in a cake!
I am a middle aged white grandma from the mid west who drinks Folgers. For the first time in my life, after seeing the way this country was headed, I really got involved this year. What I have found out scares the h@ll out of me. We own a small business, and provide our employees all benefits. Cost have risen so much that we are now paying expenses out of our pockets, instead of taking away from the people that work so hard for us every day. I don’t know how much longer we can afford to do this. I don’t think things can change unless people get out and vote. If things stay the same for the next 4 years, we will have to close our business.
No one that I have come into contact with has really looked any further the the talking points, my husband included. They spout the talking points, and anything Rush spews, but that’s all they have, they don’t bother to look any further. This is what they they are voting on. Something big needs to happen to shake these people up. Something that the MSM will report on. So far the only thing we hear is about how wonderful she is, and what an attack dog she is! Who cares, give me the kitchen table issues, make her answer some questions, please for the love of God, do your job.
Now that I have that off my chest, I’m off to bake a 3 layer cake with a suprise filling!

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Proud2BUSA (07:31:45)
it would seem so by their statement! and yes I miss Annie terribly. She spoke at my university graduation — what a rush!

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

one more piece of advice: go online to your local paper and at the end of the articles you can usually post comment. find election articles and post facts to the comments section to let people know what is going unreported. go do it now. people have changed my mind by doing this. a lot of people read the paper online. this will not work for everyone of course, but we have to keep the pressure on and get the truth out there. if the media won’t do it, we need to do it. this is far too important to give up.

8 09 2008
Kruseski

Even in her acceptance speech as VP, she said that Alaska would benefit greatly from what she could do for Alaska from Washington.
Also, back in her governor’s inauguration speech, she said that she was still going to do more for (Wasilla) “the Valley” first and foremost. It is like she warned them then about her loyalties and where her energies are focused. “Alaska first” is her motto.
Obama has to break out of his gentlemanly manners. He has to call out the lies. It is up to him to Lead the way for all of his supporters. Fight Back!

8 09 2008
Rabbler

“The reason the people of Alaska like her the way they do is because they know most of this garbage posted on sites like these is just that, garbage. It is pretty pathetic, almost cultish with the way you guys submit and accept whatever the “charismatic leader” tells you… Pathetic…”

Yeah, riiiigggggghhhhhhhtttttt. I’m glad the right wingnuts keep their attacks so squeaky clean and noble. Maybe we can learn from them and correct our behavior.

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

Off topic

Obama Plans Extended Meeting With Bill Clinton

Like Bill or not…he KNOWS how to win and a lot of people like him!

@MJC (07:47:44) :
Please stay positive. YES WE CAN!

I AGREE! AND I believe it’s important that we remain active in promoting Obama. He is meeting with McCain at Ground Zero on 9-11. I asked this a few threads back, with no response. However, I’m going to try again.

Is there any interest in trying to do something collectively, respectfully, as PATRIOTIC Obama supporters, to honor the families and the fallen of 9-11?

IDEAS WELCOMED

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

There was a time in this country when politicians cared about our standing in the world. Reagan cared, and George Bush the First cared. Nixon had problems but he could be a diplomat and reach out to other countries. I can’t believe I’m using Nixon as an example of a good president, but you know what I mean.

According to the RNC, they must want people in other countries to think that we are:

1. Naive and gullible.
2. Anti-intellectual and not curious.
3. Unable to solve problems.
4. Only able to solve problems through War.
5. Religious fanatic book burners who want to keep their wives barefoot and pregnant. (excuse me – that’s the Taliban)

We cannot have four more years of this evil mindset.

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

Couple of things — the caffeine is beginning to take effect.

First, maybe we should just encourage AK to secede…. would take SP out of the running since she’d no longer be a US citizen.

Second, for another bit of levity, I just got this edition of the Mensa International contest. Originally from the WaPo? Anyway, figure we all needed a giggle or two that wasn’t gallows humor.
Here is the Washington Post’s Mensa invitational which once again asked
readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding,
subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition. Here are
the winners:

1. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject
financially impotent for an indefinite period of time.

2. Ignoranus: A person who’s both stupid and an asshole.

3. Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you
realize it was your money to start with.

4. Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.

5. Bozone(n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright
ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign
of breaking down in the near future.

6. Foreploy: Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of getting
laid.

7. Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very,very high.

8. Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the Person who
doesn’t get it.

9. Inoculatte: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late

10. Osteopornosis: A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit.)

11. Karmageddon: It’s like, when everybody is sending off all these really
bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it’s like, a
serious bummer.

12. Decafalon (n.): The gruelling event of getting through the day consuming
only things that are good for you.

13. Glibido: All talk and no action.

14. Dopeler Effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they
come at you rapidly.

15. Arachnoleptic Fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you’ve
accidentally walked through a spider web.

16. Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your
bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

17. Caterpallor (n.): The color you turn after finding half a worm in the
fruit you’re eating.

The Washington Post has also published the winning submissions to its yearly contest, in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for
common words.
And the winners are:

1. Coffee, n. The person upon whom one coughs.

2. Flabbergasted, adj. Appalled by discovering how much weight one has
gained.

3. Abdicate v. To give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach.

4. Esplanade, v. To attempt an explanation while drunk.

5. Willy-nilly, adj. Impotent.

6. Negligent adj. Absentmindedly answering the door when wearing only a
nightgown.

7. Lymph v. To walk with a lisp.

8. Gargoyle n. Olive-flavored mouthwash.

9. Flatulence, n. Emergency vehicle that picks up someone who has been run
over by a steamroller.

10. Balderdash , n. A rapidly receding hairline.

11. Testicle, n. A humorous question on an exam.

12. Rectitude, n. The formal, dignified bearing adopted by proctologists.

13. Pokemon, n. A Rastafarian proctologist.

14. Oyster, n. A person who sprinkles his conversation with yiddishisms.

15. Frisbeetarianism, n. The belief that, after death, the soul flies up
onto the roof and gets stuck there.

16. Circumvent, n. An opening in the front of boxer shorts worn by Jewish
men.

8 09 2008
judi

I think we have heard from quite a few from Alaska who are anything But impressed with sp

8 09 2008
Anonymous

my post end up being off topic but there is no better place to post than here so here goes: first the biggest hot button issues with palin really is her involvement with AIP.

secondly…. not everything about palin is being researched “even by “O” supporters like the one’s here. For example creationism. anybody here did research to find out exactly what that is. i’v seen lots of info around the info around the “net” regarding her wanting to have it taught in schools and while some may agre/disagree, most don’t know what “creationism” is and might find themselves quite suprised.

we are helping palin/mccain and the media by spending as much time on these type of sites instead of finding better ways to help support the “O” campaign.

Lastly “GET REAL”. In all the Alaska websites that you visit………haven’t you knoticed that none of them are willing to give the “real goods” on this woman. They hint and talk about what’s already in the news but give no extra info or info. They say they don’t lilke her in many ways but none give real info about AIP, The church, tedstevens/palin, Track/vandalism, affairs, etc.

They are loyal to palin and simply thriving in the attention they are getting.

Let’s get out and do more to help support “Obama”, the way we were doing before the palin announcement/nomination.

we can’t do any good on these blogs that are not willing to give the real information. they are just teasing us with their stories and laughing in the background.

one small example before i end my post
bristol’s pregnancy………they knew……….did they post………..YES after it hit the news, not before and they are not going to be disloyal to palin

it’s a shame

8 09 2008
AME

slightly off-topic here, but I know this is a place where I can get some intelligent feedback –
Did anyone catch Joe Biden w/ Brokaw on Meet the Press last night?
I was very, very impressed. Biden spoke openly, candidly, and completely off the cuff with Brokaw for an hour. Brokaw cut him absolutely no slack, pressing him hard on all issues. Biden answered thoughtfully, completely, calmly, and rationally. He covered foreign policy with insight, and in great depth. He addressed the issue of the conflict between his religion and his party’s stance on abortion sanely. A full hour, one hard question after another, he didn’t flinch, obfuscate, or avoid. Brokaw made it abundantly clear he had made the same offer to both Palin and McCain to appear, and they turned him down. I don’t know how many people were watching at that hour, but for the dems to immediately put JB up for a no-punches-pulled hard news interview directly after Palin said “no interviews, because you won’t defer to me,” I thought was brilliant.

8 09 2008
sauer kraut

I’m trying to get people to show up at the McCain/Palin rally tomorrw (Tuesday 9/9) at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, PA, holding signs that say “FREE ALASKA” and “ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY.”

Any takers?

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Frisbeetarianism, n. The belief that, after death, the soul flies up
onto the roof and gets stuck there.

Thanks for the laugh, Palmdale!🙂 My kids have never had any flying toy that didn’t get stuck on the roof – ever!

8 09 2008
sosad

If I was PA I would be there with the sign the size of Toledo ,, you need to get in the rally and ask one question ,, how do you feel about AIP ,, your not getting an answer but it will set things in motion ..

8 09 2008
Raingods

Thanks for the laugh Palmdale, that was much needed.

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

and the republicans want this woman to run this country!!! what a joke people!

Gov. Sarah Palin made her first potentially major gaffe during her time on the national scene while discussing the developments of the perilous housing market this past weekend.

Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”

Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/palin-makes-her-first-gaf_n_124792.html

8 09 2008
tammy

If you get in the rally and you can ask that question, I would record it.

8 09 2008
portland oregon native

“country first” ???? Which country?

8 09 2008
jimstaro

DemsAreNotAfraid:

I don’t know what you know about those you listed but ,Raygun wasn’t running things, daddy bush was a part of the Support Saddam Crowd, and Nixon was a power hungry jerk.

None of them were individually or in a crowd of folks that put country first, and if you look, not even closely, you’ll see much of that crowd controlling junior, and believe me McCain will be controlled as well. he’s got dirty linen and owes. Now apparently so does his son, like Neil Bush his bank just collapsed, the taxpayer is picking up the tab, and he’ll walk away.

Despite that the World pretty much liked Us, the citizens of, but now we’ve lowered ourselves to our leadership and are accepting of what has been going on, the World is moving away, that’s what needs to be stopped for our own survival.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Palmdale & Sauer Kraut

good ideas! Encourage Alaska to secede and make it look like there are supporters following SP around advocating that… kind of smacks of “dirty tricks” from the Nixon era, but not really because it certainly isn’t “dirty” enough. Sooooo, maybe! — SP is in KC today — I’ve got tempera paints… let’s see how far this goes.

8 09 2008
sauer kraut

Anon – most people do not need to be educated on creationism anymore. We know what it is, especially after the creationists tried that silly stunt on the Dover (PA) school board and got shot down by a Republican judge.

AME – I wish Brokaw would have been as equally tough on the Republicans he interviewed during the Republican National Convention. Perhaps he can step up to the plate and get the NBC execs to arrange for HIM to interview Sarah Palin one-on-one, with no pre-set questions or limitations from the McCain campaign. Question is, do either Brokaw or the McCain campaign have the dignity, integrity or guts to do that type of interview??

And remember… FREE ALASKA get your t-shirt here!

8 09 2008
Blue Idaho

Clancop ” Northern Thaughts and Reflections” You sound like you belong to Palin’s freak church. I think you need to be deprogrammed.

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

AME (08:13:16) :

I watched the MTP Biden interview and agree with you. Biden stayed calm and on message for the hour, even when questioned about potential “conflict of interest” issues regarding his son’s position as it potentially related to his bankruptcy vote.

Go Joe!

8 09 2008
sosad

Here’s for the ARMY!!!!
” A power of one ”
One person asks AIP questions in a McCain rally and see how much power a question has .
One person asks the right question at the right time and they did more than ten thousand bloggers .

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

jimstaro: I was too young to vote for Nixon, and I never voted for Reagan or either Bush. All I’m saying is that when we have a truly stupid president who doesn’t care about the rest of the world, the world believes we are all stupid.

That’s all I’m talking about.

If we get a stupid Vice President with an extremely weird world view, the world may never trust our judgment again.

Did you see this? Condi Rice refused to give SP a glowing recommendation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/rice-gives-less-than-hear_n_124777.html

8 09 2008
sauer kraut

swineprincess – if you make any good designs, you might be able to sell them thru quilldancer’s site. My quick thought was big block letters, in pink, of FREE on top of ALASKA with smaller block letters underneath of “McCain/Palin for President” in some other color. cammie, perhaps?

Palmdale – that pokemon scares the crap outt me. all in the cards, I suppose.

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ A Nonny Mouse
I think it was actually a Blue Star Mothers pin. The whole family was wearing them, as was Cindy McCain at one point.

I may have missed something, but the one I saw was a white background. The AK flag has a blue field with stars in the shape of the Little(?) Dipper. I’m guessing it’s the little as it contains the North Star.

8 09 2008
Laurie

Lol…a few posts back, someone posted a letter written by Lynn Clarke of AIP. I emailed her. The poor soul is so rattled…she keeps emailing me back with lots of nasty little jabs. Perhaps someone else could email her too regarding her back peddaling.

8 09 2008
clancop

“Northern Thoughts and Reflections” is in reference to the fact that I am CANADIAN. North of the border, Northern, a Canadians thoughts on world issues… Guess you don’t have the brain power to figure that out eh?

Oh and I read a few of you people think that Bush and the Republicans are hurting the economy? Guess you don’t do your research…
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/andres-oppenheimer/story/592135.html

Oh and even your “leader” thinks his economic policies are a bad idea…
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/08/obama-you-know-tax-hikes-in-a-recession-may-be-a-bad-idea/

Get the facts straight before even thinking about trying to contradict that. Bush can’t be blamed for the tech bubble bursting, 9/11, Katrina, Hugo Chavez disrupting the world’s oil supply, China buying up oil, etc and once you get that through your heads, maybe you will think a little differently.

8 09 2008
AME

@sauer kraut (08:20:01) :

” Question is, do either Brokaw or the McCain campaign have the dignity, integrity or guts to do that type of interview??”

we already know the McCain campaign is trying desperately to shield her from just this type of questioning. Let’s hope Brokaw DOES have the integrity. I never got the feeling that he was “sticking it to” Biden last night, I thought he played real hardball, but with respect. As I said, he made it clear that he had made the same offer to Palin, and was turned down.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Palin Makes Her First Gaffe

Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”

Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.

8 09 2008
fawnskin

awwww, palmdale…

just think of me over here fanning your blue light.
you know that the area in which you live is quite on the other end of the color spectrum.

8 09 2008
Laurie

Excuse me Northern Thoughts…

I too am Canadian. Yes …even here we folks..we dont all agree. Northern Reflections is probably a staunch Conservative. In Canada…that would be right along the lines of Bush, McCain, the whole works.

They love free trade…even though both sides get screwed. We had an election called yesterday folks. Our conservative government only has a minority, so Harper cant do all the damage he wants to…hence an election call to try to get a majority. I hope Canadain citizens will fight as hard as all of you are…to take back their own country.

Mr. Harpers government also wants to roll back our reproductive rights. Dont believe me Northern…do a little research.

I am from the North by the way….and I am a proud Canadian. I am proud of all the services we have, and the way we take care of our citizens who are struggling. Its important to me as well who the next president of the US is. I live on the same continent….my ass is on the line too.

Sheesh.

8 09 2008
sauer kraut

clancop – you need to rethink some of your positions. As Americans, we can, indeed, blame Bush for any number of things. Economic policies that resulted in the crash of the macs. Lack of attention to credible concerns about terrorist activities within the US prior to 9/11. Invading Iraq although there were no WMD’s or real connections between Saddam and the assholes who hijacked those airplanes. His administration’s piss poor response to Katrina. Him pissing off Hugo Chavez by meddling in that election of a few years ago. Allowing Celine Dion into the country. As Americans, we can make comments about our government and those who govern us. Those who believe otherwise are those who’ve been in the White House for the past 8 years and are too wimpish to stand up for themselves. Instead, they hunker down in the bunkers.

8 09 2008
Blue Idaho

Clancop
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/futureinvest/104492

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

http://www.tcf.org/list.asp?type=NC&pubid=677

Palin’s on CNN repeating her lies. Bridge lie, airplane lie ect.

The sheep are chanting.

I’m going to puke.

8 09 2008
JT

Rabbler, if what you say is true, can you please answer me two questions?

1. Do you think it is acceptable to attempt to ban books, a clear violation of our Constitution, and something that Palin did.

2. Do you think the cruel hunting of wolves by air, which makes the animals run until exhaused, before being shot? A practice that many hunters are against, and one that scientists say is not necessary??

8 09 2008
tammy

Clancop maybe you don’t get all of the news up there in Canada. The Clinton administration warned the Bush Administration very strongly on Bin Laden’s agenda in attacking the U.S. The NTSB had been warning for years that the airports and our airlines were unsafe. The NTSB had been pushing for reinforced cockpit doors for years. But the airline industry didn’t want to do anything. All Bush had to do was sign an executive order putting it into effect.

The Katrina mess. You surely don’t want to go there. You think that was a competent response? I can guarantee you this, If Bill Clinton would had been in office, the response would had been a heck of a lot different. And Clinton would had been on the ground touring the area alot faster than Bush did. And someone in charge of FEMA under the Clinton administration would had been a heck of alot more competent than ‘ole Brownie was.

The economy, we had a surplus and Bush screwed it up. Heck, he couldn’t even manage a mlb team correctly. And people thought he could manage a country without screwing it up?

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Saracuda is on CNN…at a live rally in Missouri I believe

8 09 2008
JT

opps…number 2…do you think the practice is acceptable.

8 09 2008
Chicago

This Track deployment thing is very strange.
Consider how the British Royal Family tried to underplay Prince Harry in the war zone so as not to be a (bigger) media story, endanger his battalion AND a focus for militants looking for a cheap shot.

How different is the GOP!

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

McCain is talking about change is coming, change is coming to you! Yep it sure is…the end of our democracy!!!

8 09 2008
Blue Idaho

Clancop – some light reading for you,
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/futureinvest/104492

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

http://www.tcf.org/list.asp?type=NC&pubid=677

Palin’s on CNN repeating her lies. Bridge lie, airplane lie ect.

The sheep are chanting.

I’m going to puke.

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

make sure you have not been purged! click here to see if you are registered to vote:
http://www.canivote.org/

pass this info on

8 09 2008
Ky

Hey, did you know that Palin put a plane on eBay? Or that she said, “Thanks, but no thanks” to that bridge to nowhere?
I had never heard that, before….

8 09 2008
tammy

Let’s Get Real, thank God I have the NFL Network. Screw MSNBC and CNN. Rather watch the replay of nfl games than their bias crap.

8 09 2008
willpen

EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL….LET’S GET AN EFFORT TOGETHER TO SEND MASS EMAILINGS TO CHARLIE GIBSON AND ABC ABOUT THIS

8 09 2008
tammy

nancy-INDIANA (08:40:47) :

make sure you have not been purged! click here to see if you are registered to vote:
http://www.canivote.org/

pass this info on

__________________

Minnesota is not listed.

8 09 2008
Laurie

Tammy…talking to clancop, and his cohorts wont do any good. Their thinking is as myopic as is the “right” in the US. They ARE the Canadian right. I have had my fill of them here, as you are having of them in your country.

They see only what they want to…care about only the things that affect them. To hell with the rest of the country. As a Canadian, I can tell you I was horrified about Katrina and the lack of response, the same as I was about the phony production that Bush and company showed during Gustav. The far right are so narrow minded they will never ever hear you…they dont get it as Obama says.

8 09 2008
AME

@AnneinWA (08:26:21) :

“I watched the MTP Biden interview and agree with you. Biden stayed calm and on message for the hour, even when questioned about potential “conflict of interest” issues regarding his son’s position as it potentially related to his bankruptcy vote.

Go Joe!”

Prior to his appointment as Obama’s VP, I hadn’t given Biden a lot of attention, I thought of him mainly as the king of the fillibuster. After hearing him last night, I was won over by his rational persona. I am convinced he is extremely intelligent, as well as calm and unflappable. He seemed completely up front about everything, and made no attempt to deflect or avoid any questions that “put him on the spot.” He never once seemed uncomfortable or out of his league.
I would love to see Palin in a similar situation. Can she really avoid the hard hitting questions indefinitely?

8 09 2008
tammy

Laurie unfortunately that is true. Of course I didn’t go into the hijacker that was arrested, all of the memo’s the FBI had on people from the middle east taking flight training lessons, that no one was sharing information, that one of the hijackers on one of the plans was on the FBI watch list, etc.

On Gustav I was talking to a friend of mine and we came to the conclusion that, unfortunately, the media did want to see another city flooded. It would had gave them huge ratings.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

oos sorry guys I not going to be at the speech in KC — it started about 15 minutes ago… just to let you know — she’s saying the exact same thing sh’s been saying all along… told us how she turned down that damned bridge… continued the lies — their tongues should fall out.

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Isn’t Hillary suppose to be in Florida today? Why aren’t the MSMs covering this. Instead of airing McShame/Plain same snipits from their acceptance speeches?

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“Minnesota is not listed.”
Tammy, that’s weird. i wonder if they don’t have it online. i found this website where you might be able to find the info.

http://www.votesmart.org/voter_registration_resources.php?state_id=MN

8 09 2008
jimstaro

clancop:

Suggestion, put a ‘k’ instead of a ‘c’ in front, and get rid of the ‘cop’!

Next, Educate yourself, as a canook winger about U.S. economic reality, and Frankly keep your thoughts in canada, I’m sure you get at least one or two visitors to your site, Be Happy-Keep Smilin, and Bye-Bye!!!!!!!

8 09 2008
Shanon

I saw this article in the Tuscaloosa news (Alabama). I’m super impressed that someone is speaking out there. However, look at the backlash he receives.

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20080907/NEWS/809060290/1012&title=Palin_may_sink_McCain_as_issues_come_to_light

8 09 2008
Julie Arizona

Lisa,
I agree with you. The scary part is the emails I get from people I know from church, PTA, etc. – all the places where the “good” republicans go. It doesn’t really matter what dirt we might dig up or what inexperience we might point out. SHE KEPT THE BABY. That seems to be the only thing of significance to them. The only way they might change their mind is if Rush told them to.

I think we just have to outvote them. We won’t change them.

8 09 2008
Rabbler

JT

awwww c’mon, get your sarcasm radar up and runnin’

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

nancy-INDIANA (08:40:47) :

Thanks for the voter “registration-check” site. I live in Washington state and have never had a problem…but it never hurts to check.

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Why does she harp on the bridge to nowhere?

Most of us in the lower 48 couldn’t care less about that – sorry! It’s one flippin bridge, even tho’ it’s an expensive one. But we are talking about someone who could be in charge of the entire budget of the United States of America.

I could tell you things about my own congressmen and mayors, good and bad, but no one would care. Yes, all politics is local, but the rest of the country ain’t Alaska. Hello? This is getting old really fast.

8 09 2008
Anonymous

alaska people on these blogs are just like palin and are only interested in entertainment

8 09 2008
Susie in Jersey

From Tammy:

“The NTSB had been pushing for reinforced cockpit doors for years. But the airline industry didn’t want to do anything. ”

And as a result we have the Transportation Security Administration – a multi-billion dollar boondoggle that is doing NADA to make air transportation any safer but is succeeding in depriving us of our rights and dignity. Thank you, George Bush.

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

AME (08:47:21) :

Good question regarding Palin’s ability (knowledge) to undergo the same scrutiny Brokaw gave Biden. Joe has been around a long time and knows the issues. He is also a truly decent man. I think many were worried he would be too tough on Palin in the debate. Once Sarah sarcastically labeled herself a “pitbull with lipstick”, then arrogantly went on to belittle Obama and his work as a community organizer, I believe I heard a collective sigh of relief. So, once again…Go Joe!

8 09 2008
tammy

Yeah the same TSA that hired the MNDOT official that was fired after the I35W bridge collapse. All TSA had to do was google her name and they would find out the reason she was fired. Misuse of public funds for starters. Not returning to the state, after the bridge collapsed, for two weeks was another issue. And they hired this idiot.

8 09 2008
ds55

Missouri isn’t listed on the voter registration check website.
Maybe all states don’t make their voter lists public.

8 09 2008
JudiB

This information should be sent to vetsagainstjohnmccain.com and to Huffingtonpost.com. This is too serious not be be made public.

8 09 2008
in a valley further south

just a reminder here.

at the moment, the weight given to videos/articles/anything that happened in the past vs what is said into a microphone with a big smile and a touch of sarcasm is not exactly equal.

the lies that were delivered at the convention are being repeated word for word on the stump. and the simple fact that there is one person standing there listening says something about the ‘power of historical evidence now’

AKM, that is not meant to dissuade you in the least from your efforts just a reminder that this thing has legs and relative to the convention speech, the audience here needs to grow by a factor of 100,000 before the momentum changes. Your time and effort here are tremendously appreciated by me. Thank you

oh, here’s one other recent thought and one that appears to have been by ‘vetted’ by the overall reaction out of the great state of Alaska.

only an idiot provokes a pit bull unless they are willing to kill the animal.

that does not appear to be part of the Obama strategy so i for one do not expect to see it happen.

latest pollster consolidated results http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo.php

this feels to me a bit like the time leading up to the texas primary where the media was painting this picture that Obama has lost the momentum and the end was near. and you know what happened after that.

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican

RE: mpalm (07:23:43) :

“I visited Alaska last year and it is a beautiful place, but the last few weeks have been a real eye opener for me. Previously, I had no real idea of the level of corruption that existed there. Further, I had no idea that progressives were generally unwelcome. Because I am one of those, I have decided to never return.”

Here is another reason to think about not coming back. We live in a state where the people in charge do nothing for the rural villages.

http://www.palinsalaska.com/

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

@Anonymous (08:53:04) :

Where did that come from? Your insult toward Alaskans? I don’t understand your comment or your thinking.

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican

Cynthia TX,
Those polls are skewed. Usually the numbers come from people on the road system, no one is taking into account the people in rural Alaska.

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

Clanclop,
I invite you to come to this wonderful state, especially if you think Sarah is so wonderful. When you arrive in Anchorage we can then get on another flight to a hub city, say Bethel (500 miles away). After we arrive there we can haul our stuff to a bush plane company and then take another little flight to a rural village where you can see all the wonderful things Sarah and the republican party has done. It is amazing! I am sure that you will be impressed!

http://www.palinsalaska.com/

Everyone else, please note the sarcasm.

8 09 2008
deb2012

In the mainstream press, she’s lookin mighty teflon to me. All I see is rah rah Sarah. Right now, Carl Rove is the the wizard. Her words have been a great example to me of how different and divided Americans have become. She believes her perception of reality as much as I believe mine, and they are almost diametrically opposed. Funny thing is, I don’t fear for my country, even if those fear mongers and constitution busters remain in power. They believe they are protecting America. So be it. The American people will eventually rise up and reject oil, the young people will invent new technologies, stem cells will one day provide cures, and even if they set us back scientifically, take away all social programs, throw us into bankrupcy with war politics,deregulation, tax breaks for the uber rich, and inject “christian” values into the constituion and our laws, we will find a way to survive and prosper. Believe it. Intelligent politicians like Obama will continue to be an option as the new generation comes into their own. It can get chaotic and scary before evolution and growth, whether it’s on a personal level, or as a nation. The old guard will go, the religious right will lose power and be left to lawfully practice their beliefs without interfereing with the rest of us, it’s just a matter of time.

8 09 2008
rpahk

AK seceding from the Union is a good idea! All the right wingnuts can migrate there and leave the lower 48 in peace (sorry HI but I assume you would not mind). This would also help the federal deficit as AK now gets $2 in federal money for every $1 in taxes they pay. The kicker here is they don’t need the money!

8 09 2008
fredrik

According to a discussion at the Facebook group “I have more Foreign Policy Experience than Sarah Palin” (46 975 members at the moment) this is the list of the banned books. It would be nice if someone could confirm the list. The poster claim that the list comes from the official minutes of the Library Board. Is that something that would be accessible to the public?

http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753120820#/topic.php?uid=36436310820&topic=5501

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess

A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden

As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner

Blubber by Judy Blume

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson

Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer

Carrie by Stephen King

Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

Christine by Stephen King

Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau

Cujo by Stephen King

Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen

Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite

Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck

Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller

Decameron by Boccaccio

East of Eden by John Steinbeck

Fallen Angels by Walter Myers

Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland

Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes

Forever by Judy Blume

Grendel by John Champlin Gardner

Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling

Have to Go by Robert Munsch

Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman

How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell

Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

Impressions edited by Jack Booth

In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak

It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein

James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence

Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman

Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

Lord of the Flies by William Golding

Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein

Lysistrata by Aristophanes

More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz

My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier

My House by Nikki Giovanni

My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara

Night Chills by Dean Koontz

Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck

On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer

One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Ordinary People by Judith Guest

Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective

Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy

Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl

Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz

Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz

Separate Peace by John Knowles

Silas Marner by George Eliot

Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

The Bastard by John Jakes

The Catcher in the Rye b y J.D. Salinger

The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier

The Color Purple by Alice Walker

The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth

The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson

The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood

The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder

The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks

The Living Bible by William C. Bower

The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare

The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman

The Pigman by Paul Zindel

The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders

The Shining by Stephen King

The Witches by Roald Dahl

The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder

Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume

To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee

Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare

Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster

Editorial Staff

Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween

Symbols by Edna Barth

8 09 2008
tammy

From a poster at startribune.com:

What’s the difference between Sarah Palin and Pat Robertson?

Lipstick

8 09 2008
fawnskin
8 09 2008
fawnskin

gosh it takes a lot of submits to get something posted sometimes!

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/08/obama-camp-sends-out-embarrassing-palin-pic/

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

I just left a message on the MSNBC comment line! I can’t stand this crap!!!

8 09 2008
fawnskin
8 09 2008
tammy

She has it in for Stephen King don’t she? And Harry Potter? OMG!!!! Did she also try the ban the dvd’s of the Harry Potter movies? If you have a movie theater there, did she try to block Harry Potter from being shown there?

Brings to mind that famous quote from the McCarthy hearings I think it was. “Have you no shame???!!!!”

8 09 2008
Lola

Okay SP makes her first major gaffe:

Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”

Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.

“You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do,” said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. “These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country’s mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn’t speak well for her, I’d say.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/palin-makes-her-first-gaf_n_124792.html

Now this is FAIR GAME, as it is about POLICY. McBush already admitted that he knows nothing about the economy, and now it seems SP doesn;t either. This had BETTER be covered on ALL MSM.

8 09 2008
Polly

Some people are trying to protect Sarah Palin from being under the microscope. DUH! She is applying for the top job in the country. For example, if I were seeking employment with the FBI, I would EXPECT them to put my life under the microscope, including my family members. Our president is privy to top secret information and CIA intelligence, not just our country but other countries – and his/her life should be scrutinized. Depending on the job you apply for there is always a level of background checks. Saying that, here are two things to consider – SP’s lack of cooperation with being scrutinized, and her lack of knowledge on our National Economic Crisis. She doesn’t know what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are. I’m a former Realtor, so even I knew better than her, but I don’t think I am qualified to be President. Oh that’s right, I wasn’t a member of the PTA. Oh, but I have four kids and five grandkids, so maybe there is a chance. D’ya think??
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Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”

Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.

“You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do,” said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. “These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country’s mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn’t speak well for her, I’d say.”

_________________________________________________

In June, Andrée McLeod, a self-described independent government watchdog in Alaska, sent an open records act request to the office of Governor Sarah Palin. She requested copies of all the emails that had been sent and received by Ivy Frye and Frank Bailey, two top aides to Palin, from February through April of this year. McLeod, a 53-year-old registered Republican who has held various jobs in state government, suspected that Frye and Bailey had engaged in political activity during official business hours in that period by participating in a Palin-backed effort to oust the state chairman of the Alaska Republican party, Randy Ruedrich. (Bailey has been in the national news of late for refusing to cooperate with investigators probing whether Palin fired Alaska’s public safety commission because he did not dismiss a state trooper who had gone through an ugly divorce with Palin’s sister.)

In response to her request, McLeod received four large boxes of emails. This batch of documents did not contain any proof that Frye and Bailey had worked on government time to boot out Ruedrich. But there was other information she found troubling. Several of the emails suggested to her that Palin’s office had used its influence to reward a Fairbanks surveyor who was a Palin fundraiser with a state job. In early August, McLeod filed a complaint with the state attorney general against Palin, Bailey, and other Palin aides, claiming they had violated ethics and hiring laws. Palin, now the Republican vice-presidential candidate, told the Alaska Daily News that “there were no favors done for anybody.”

But more intriguing than any email correspondence contained in the four boxes was what was not released: about 1100 emails. Palin’s office provided McLeod with a 78-page list (PDF) cataloging the emails it was withholding. Many of them had been written by Palin or sent to her. Palin’s office claimed most of the undisclosed emails were exempt from release because they were covered by the “executive” or “deliberative process” privileges that protect communications between Palin and her aides about policy matters. But the subject lines of some of the withheld emails suggest they were not related to policy matters. Several refer to one of Palin’s political foes, others to a well-known Alaskan journalist. Moreover, some of the withhold emails were CC’ed to Todd Palin, the governor’s husband. Todd Palin—a.k.a. the First Dude—holds no official state position (though he has been a close and influential adviser for Governor Palin). The fact that Palin and her aides shared these emails with a citizen outside the government undercuts the claim that they must be protected under executive privilege. McLeod asks, “What is Sarah Palin hiding?”

The list of still-secret emails includes a series of messages that circulated on February 1, 2008, among Palin, Bailey, Frye, and Todd Palin “re Andrew Halcro.” A former Republican, Halcro ran as an independent against Palin for governor in 2006, collecting only 9 percent of the vote. Since then he has been a blogger who often criticizes Palin. There is no telling what the emails said about Halcro. But in a July blog posting, Halcro asked, “why in the world is Todd Palin getting copied on emails [about me] that his wife’s administration is classifying as confidential….These emails should be released to the public….after all Todd Palin has no standing to claim executive privilege. By including him in the email loop, the Palin administration has arguably breached any claim of executive privilege.” And McLeod wonders, “What do emails about Andrew Halcro have to do with policy deliberations?”

The list of confidential emails includes a number of communications related to the Public Safety Employees Association, a union for the state’s police officers and state troopers, and the headings refer to PSEA ads and a “PR campaign.” Many of these PSEA-related emails were CC’ed to Todd Palin—and were also withheld under the deliberative process and executive privileges. (Recently, John Cyr, the PSEA executive director, told The Washington Post that Sarah Palin held a grudge against the state troopers and held down their salaries and other funding because her ex-brother-in-law-the-trooper had not been fired.) A separate email sent from Frye to Bailey and Todd Palin and headed “I may be in trouble here guys” was withheld because it involves a personnel matter. In April, a series of emails with the subject line “from Sheila Toomey” zipped between Sarah Palin, Bailey, Frye, other Palin aides, and Todd Palin. Toomey writes the “Alaska Ear” political gossip column for the Anchorage Daily News. These emails were also withheld under the deliberative process and executive privileges. And a string of emails titled “Racism on the Radio” that went back and forth between Governor Palin and her aides was blocked from release on the same grounds.

McLeod says she intends to file an appeal of the decision to withhold the emails on the 78-page list.

“I’ve known Sarah for years, ” says McLeod, who moved to Alaska from New York in 1978. “When the finger is pointed at somebody else, she’s all for accountability. When it’s pointing at her, it’s different. Sarah Palin was elected on the basis of providing open and honest government. She has failed miserably.”

The McCain-Palin campaign did not respond to phone and email requests for a comment.

8 09 2008
fawnskin
8 09 2008
RallyGrrrl

Katrina, four dollar gas, a trillion dollar war, rising unemployment, deregulated housing market, global warming…no more

8 09 2008
fawnskin

sometimes it takes a lot of submits to get some things posted:

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/08/obama-camp-sends-out-embarrassing-palin-pic/

8 09 2008
in a valley further south

one other thought

after watching Biden on Meet the Press,

MSM will generally portray him as the ‘loser’ in a ‘debate’ with Ms Palin..

won’t matter whether or not she actually knows what she is talking about
what will matter is presentation. on the speaking skills level, Biden vs Palin
is no match. he does not complete thoughts, gets reactive and worked up
at any question that challenges judgement and generally appears to look
like most parents chiding their children when responding to any question that questions his record/thinking.

that’s not an endorsement for Palin or an attack on Biden, just my impression of that interview. given the Palin performance at the convention i expect the ‘crowd’ to be wooed. Biden made me cringe in the debates earlier this year. he just does not have the presentation/speaking skills.

why post this? well, it’s in some way an expectation temperer.

just as Biden himself came out the morning after the Palin speech and set high expectations (a strategy that he seems to have already forgotten),
if you go into the upcoming debate expecting him to clean her clock with facts and his foreign policy expertise. you might come away from it depressed.

don’t do it.

expect the reaction to be positive for Palin simply because she looks like the flying nun and has the ability to look directly into the camera and say what needs to be said with a big smile and a positive demeanor. my guess is that she would make a tremendous hypnotist.

it is at this point all about personality whether you like it or not.

8 09 2008
Rabbler

I think the information about Palin’s wack-job beliefs is spreading out in the MSM. For example, this article on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94332540

Any American who pays attention will know that Palin thinks reality is only a surface underneath which there is a cosmic spiritual battle, a simple-and-easy-to-understand battle between the forces of good and evil.

If she is voted into office it will be quite a change from American pragmatism.

8 09 2008
Harley

clancop

We do not want to hear ” The Gospel Of Sarah ”

It is my fervent prayer the American public sees through the lies and deceit of McCain / Palin.

I realize they may not, I do not need you or anyone else to tell me how crazy the American electorate can be.

After all, they voted Bush in twice,
( technically three times if you count Bush 41 )
and revelled in a needless war that has destroyed our economy and our standing in the world. To say NOTHING of the destruction of our Constitution and our civil libertyies under Bush / Cheny / Rove

What makes you think we do not know that many assholes are gluttons for punishment? We know its a tight race. Satisified? Does it make you feel good?

We also know that because its a tight race if we work together and stand our ground and work hard for Obama / Biden…..we might actually end up with the government we deserve and NEED !

So go away if you don’t like it here!
Leave us to do our work.

8 09 2008
charlie lewe

I dont think this is that daming/? It is very interesting though. I will be sending an email to some of my friends to come watch this video. Very interesting. hmm. I like Sarah Palin. I think she will be good for the GOP. Extensive VP pics Videos and Background info including Sarah Palin Files

8 09 2008
Harley

And if you attack my typos, I would run for the hills if I were you LOL

8 09 2008
drchill

No Smoking gun.

I’m not sure its so damning …

This video can be dismissed as the rantings of a fringe group…
Sarah can claim she’s just friendly to all points of view, that her husbands interest and membership in AIP did not reflect the radical side of AIP, and just as Obama, can claim membership in a church, and dispute some remarks from its head, so too can Sarah dispute any repugnant view expressed by AIP, no matter how friendly they are to it.

To me its part of a redneck picture that is coming into sharper focus, but in itself is not a smoking gun; not a document proving affiliation with AIP.

8 09 2008
Harley

MMMMM just thought of something, all the Palin lovers on here all of sudden.

Guess we ARE GETTING THE JOB DONE !!!!!!

Keep working hard mudflatians !

8 09 2008
AME

This morning, World Newser’s blog is actively soliciting questions for Gibson to ask Palin, here:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2008/09/questions-for-s.html#comments

Go, post, be heard!!

8 09 2008
rpahk

re: banned books

I understand the list floating around the internet is a hoax. Palin asked the librarian about banning books and the librarian refused which led to Palin trying to fire her. Local citizens protested and Palin relented. I don’t believe any specific titles were mentioned but I read on a blog somewhere (mudflats probably) that the Palin inquiry concerned books on evolution.

8 09 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

clancop

so the president of mexico says revisiting the trade agreements would hurt the united states…what else is new?

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Clanclap –

I appreciate seeing a Canadian’s view here, so thank you for that. As an American, here are my thoughts:

1) 9/11 – the event obviously was not of Bush’s doing. The dismal follow-up, lack of direction and self-servitude fall squarely on Bush/McCain. The culprit of 9/11 was not Saddam Hussein. Trying to pin the world of terrorism which exists in over 80 countries depending on whose count you read to one mediocre dictator is illogical and irresponsible. We sayed we were going after bin Laden and the terrorists WHO DID ATTACK OUR SHORES, and seven years later we are embroiled in a terrible situation of ousted a dictator with “…no known ties to the Weapons of Mass Destruction” (U.N. Council). On November 29, 2002 on CNN’s Late Edition, Sen. McCain said, “We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies….I don’t think it’s easy, but I believe that we can win an overwhelming victory in a very short period of time.” Obama made a prominent speech around the same time, October 2, 2002, in which he said, “But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. “I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al-Qaeda.” Obama correctly foresaw the consequences of the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history.

2) Katrina. The horrific lack of coordination after this natural disaster falls squarely on Bush, and he took blame for that in the early days. The lack of interest and federal funding to help stabilize Louisiana and Mississippi are clearly at the feet of Bush. The levees are managed by the Army Corp of Engineers, and yes, before 2004, they were warned these could be breached. Where Bush is accountable is that he has not provided enough funding to shore up all the levees around NOLA, left local governments to fend for themselves as thousands of displaced NOLA’ians came to new towns, and basically forgot about the mess. He has not visited NOLA since when??? NOLA will take a direct hit from a major hurricane again, and that will be a sad day for all of us.

3) The current subprime and corresponding crises falls squarely at the feet of Bush. Bush’s Feds (aka the Central Bank) allowed financial services (and I work for one) to lend money to people who did not have the credit scores. The Fed started to see deterioration in the credit market back in 2003 and 2004, but didn’t warn lenders off using the “non traditional mortgages” seen as precursors of what is now a credit crisis until December of 2005, shortly before Greenspan resigned.

4) Dismemberment of the Constitution and Bill of Rights falls squarely at Bush’s feet. Bush/McCain attempted no less than 7 times to amend the Constitution – more than ANY OTHER PRESIDENT IN 200 YEARS. At one point in 2005, it is well-documented that Bush stated that the Constitution is “…just a G**-dam** piece of paper.” The first amendment of our Bill of Rights is constantly on attack with Bush/McCain cronies as they hope to further their personal agendas through the deterioration of the Country’s founding documents.

5) The Federal Government has been aware of several alternative energy sources for decades now. It has refused to fund them, bowing to the Big Business lobbysts., No doubt he didn’t start the mess, but Bush has never been a supporter of alternative sources (think about where his family money comes from). Harvard Business School, in conjunction with MIT, did an assessment of Bush’s energy policy and budgets. Here are some salient points from that presentation:

•The FY07 budget actually cuts vehicle efficiency funding overall. This category encompasses the FreedomCar and Fuel partnership and the 21st Century Truck partnership.
•In FY07, the Administration is increasing research by an unspecified amount for plug-in hybrids, however.
•The increase in funding for coal, solar, wind, and nuclear is unlikely to affect U.S. oil consumption any time soon because oil is not used in the U.S. electricity sector.
•Geothermal, hydropower, petroleum, and natural gas RD&D are all cancelled in the FY07 request
•Weatherization funding (deployment) is cut by $91 million current dollars. Weatherization activities help the poor install energy-efficient technologies

Conclusions: Specifics
•Carbon sequestration funding at $73 million is ridiculously low.
•Do we want to completely zero out petroleum and natural gas funding? Cancel geothermal?
•Although the percentage increases in solar, wind, and biomass investments seem impressive, their total budgets are relatively small.

Conclusions: Broader
•Overall amount of U.S. government investments in ERD&D seems rather small in relation to the looming energy-related challenges . We talk a good game and these government investments have had big payoffs in the past
•Congressional earmarking is a big problem
•Need for better understanding of deployment programs in particular

6)Global Support: Since 2002, Bush has consistently touted his leadership in this arena, most recently in his State of the Union Address:
“America is leading the fight against global poverty, with strong education initiatives and humanitarian assistance. We’ve also changed the way we deliver aid by launching the Millennium Challenge Account. This program strengthens democracy, transparency, and the rule of law in developing nations, and I ask you to fully fund this important initiative.”
Yet just a week after this speech, Bush released his FY 2009 budget that requests a funding cut for the program. Although Congress has repeatedly underfunded the program, Bush’s requests for the program have never come close to $5 billion. Funding levels for FY 2009, however, fall to a new low:
Fiscal Year Budget Request
FY 2006 $3 billion

FY 2007 $3 billion

FY 2008 $3 billion

FY 2009 $2.225 billion

The Wall Street Journal notes that Bush’s $2.225 billion request is enough to just “provide packages to Ukraine, Moldova, Jordan, Timor-Leste and Malawi.” Not only has Bush backtracked on his the Millennium Challenge Account, but he largely ignored democracy promotion on his recent Middle East trip. In Saudi Arabia, Bush spent time with King Abdullah, but never met with “one Saudi dissident or political activist, much less a democrat.” Not surprisingly, democracy activists in the Middle East say they feel “disappointed” by Bush.

7) Veterans Support. After the Vietnam War, most Americans committed that we would NEVER, EVER turn our backs or give the perception that we have turned our backs on our Veterans ever again. This is a very tender topic for many of us – we may not believe in the War, but we BELIEVE in the brave men and women fighting over there, and will never make them feel a lack of support. You need to get specific feedback from the Vets who are on this site, but I can assure you, Mssrs. Bush/McCain are no friends of our Veterans.

8) Finally, Choice. From the bi-partisan Guttmacher Institute:
Abortion rates among racial and ethnic minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, are higher than rates among white women and are directly related to their higher rates of unintended pregnancy, according to a new Guttmacher policy analysis. The findings run counter to claims by antiabortion activists that high abortion rates among minorities are the result of supposed aggressive marketing by abortion providers to minority communities. Instead, disproportionately high rates of both unintended pregnancy and abortion are just one symptom of broader health disparities ranging from sexually transmitted infections to diabetes and heart disease.
“There really is no need to resort to far-flung conspiracy theories. Behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. And because women of color are much more likely to experience unintended pregnancies than any other group, they are also more likely to seek and obtain abortions than any other group,” says Susan A. Cohen, author of the new analysis. “Fundamentally, the question policymakers should be asking is not why women of color have high abortion rates, but rather what can be done to help them have fewer unintended pregnancies and achieve better health outcomes more generally.” Guttmacher research shows that many women of color, who are also disproportionately low-income, are unable to afford prescription birth control methods, such as the IUD, that are highly effective over extended time periods but have high up-front costs. Unstable life situations, in which consistent use of contraceptives is a lower priority than simply getting by, can also be a factor. Beyond access to affordable contraceptives, however, dissatisfaction with the quality of services and the methods themselves may be at least as much an impediment to their consistent and correct use. “Minority women are among the most likely to experience frequent life changes and to be dissatisfied with their contraceptive method,” notes Cohen. “Either of these factors can result in women’s skipping pills or not using a condom every time. Some women are also dissatisfied with their provider, a problem often made worse by cultural or linguistic barriers that can lead to frustration and poor follow-through on contraceptive use.” Narrowing the gaps in access, quality and health outcomes is essential and a priority in the public health community, according to Cohen. Barriers to access to health care, including financial and geographic hurdles, remain a significant issue, particularly among minority communities. But, according to Cohen, there is increasing recognition that the quality of care plays a major role in health-seeking behavior and health outcomes. “One thing is for sure,” says Cohen. “Antiabortion activists in minority communities who are trying to protect African American women and Latinas from themselves by restricting access to safe and legal abortion have it backward. They should instead focus their efforts on reducing the disparities in access to quality health care and in health outcomes more broadly. And if they are most concerned about the disproportionately high abortion rates, they should begin by advocating for improved access to high-quality contraceptive services to reduce the disproportionately high rates of unintended pregnancy in these communities.”

As someone who does not believe in hand-outs, but what we call Hand-UPs, I’m disturbed by these trends. B. Clinton had started some excellent programs that weaned Welfare Mommas and generations after continous federal support. Bush did not follow suit.

8 09 2008
drchill

charlie lewe

I’m not impressed by a site that asks if Sarah is sexy, and posts fake photos of her…

8 09 2008
rpahk

Focusing on Palins’ family problems and the AIP issue will not influence the election IMO. Palin is HARD right wing and McSame is joined at the hip with Bush. These are the factors that need to be emphasized. The National Enquirer can deal with the sleazier aspects.

8 09 2008
Gerri
8 09 2008
8 09 2008
Anonymous

AnneinWA

what i mean is exactly what i said. these blogs are just entertainment for the people in alaska. more attention than they have ever had. they post these blogs for entertainment purpuses only. they have no intentions of giving us the real sound information on palin that we need. they have been living with this woman for years. yet most of them only post on these sites information that the media is already giving. they don’t ad insite in to the main questions and as an example i mentioned before the bristol scandal and the fact that alaskans knew all along but didn’t start posting until media announced. and this post today about AIP……… no extra info……….just what media is already saying……….

that’s what i meant and i am entitled to my opinion

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

@ in a valley further south (09:22:09) :
“expect the reaction to be positive for Palin simply because she looks like the flying nun and has the ability to look directly into the camera and say what needs to be said with a big smile and a positive demeanor. my guess is that she would make a tremendous hypnotist.

it is at this point all about personality whether you like it or not.”

Your point is well taken. Joe Biden has a tendency to talk too much (HE admits that), and, as he said, “She’s better looking than I am”. However, I think she runs the risk of being a bit TOO sarcastic for many. Possibly not. I watched the Saddleback forum and folks seemed to LOVE McCain’s grinning and one-word-answers.

8 09 2008
tammy

Bill Clinton to join Obama and McCain at Ground Zero
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

8 09 2008
AME

questions that Gibson should ask Palin … World News solicits your opinion:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2008/09/questions-for-s.html#comments

8 09 2008
Harley

from The Jed Report: and I could not agree more

What More Of The Same Really Means

Barack Obama has pounded away at his core message that if you liked the last eight years, then you should vote for John McCain because he’ll deliver more of the same, but if you want change, you should vote for Obama-Biden.

It’s a good message and it should remain the centerpiece of the campaign. But as Barack Obama and Joe Biden continue on the stump, they need a quick way to describe what more of the same really means. To that end, here’s a three-part proposal, based on the arguments that Obama and Biden have been making on the campaign trail. More of the same means:

GETTING NOTHING DONE: We’ve spent most the last eight years, mired in Iraq while our economy crumbles and an energy crisis grows. John McCain did nothing on these issues in the Senate, and now that he’s a presidential candidate, he’s talking about everything but the issues that actually matter. Contrast McCain’s lightweight pledges with Barack Obama’s detailed policy proposals on the key issues facing our country.
TEARING AMERICA APART: Instead of focusing on policy that can help improve the lives of all Americans, John McCain would rather spend his campaign fanning the culture wars that divide this country. Nothing illustrates this more clearly than his selection of Sarah Palin, a right-wing religious extremist who has supported secessionists in Alaska. Contrast the selection of Palin with Obama’s selection of Biden, a moderate Senator who has won respect across the political spectrum.
LYING TO THE PUBLIC: In order to distract attention from the issues that matter, John McCain and Sarah Palin have both spun up stories about their own records and those of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. These stories are false, but McCain and Palin just don’t care. Truth does not matter to them. They have every bit as much regard for truth as did the Bush Administration when it decided to invade Iraq. They will bring the same WMD-style attitude to The White House.
That’s it. Those three elements encapsulate what I think we mean when we say John McCain and Sarah Palin mean more of the same. They won’t get anything done, they’ll continue tearing America apart over cultural issues, and they’ll lie to and deceive the public with reckless abandon.

Now that John McCain agrees that this election is about who can best change the direction of this country, Barack Obama will be enjoying the political equivalent of a homefield advantage for the the rest of the campaign. This is the turf on which Obama wants to fight. This is the turf on which we will win. And what we need to start doing now is to begin closing the case by explaining what the case really means.

8 09 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

drchill

lets say that a vid of obama giving a friendly message to the nation of islam or la mecha shows up….think he gets a pass?

friendly to people who wish to seceede from the union?

from where i come from, that is treason

8 09 2008
clancop

To those wanting to contradict what I was saying, a few facts…

1. Bill Clinton knew of Osama bin Laden, knew where he was, knew what kind of things he was planning and didn’t do anything. Most polls blame him for not acting on what he knew, that is why he freaked out on Fox News.

2. Seem you guys don’t know enough about America. Unlike Canada, the federal government doesn’t have the authority to push its political agenda on each individual state. Matter of fact, the state government is the only governmental authority that can make choices about state policy, INCLUDING relief efforts. Former Governor Blanco refused federal assistance (no matter what she claimed after the fact) after the hurricane hit, and only let in the the National Guard after the levies broke. Her fumbling of Katrina relief is why she refused to seek re-election and why Bobby Jindal is the new governor. You want to bring that up, I ACTUALLY did more research then you guys did on it. Bush visited the affected areas 4 times before Kayne’s pathetic race baiting…

3. FACT: Saddam was supporting suicide bombing in Palestine. FACT: Al-Qaeda in Iraq was there before 9/11, only swearing loyalty to bin Laden following the fall of the Twin Towers in order to receive funding for further terrorist attacks. FACT: Saddam claimed to have WMDs, and after the first Gulf War, with Kuwait and Israel in danger (ask a Jew how many Iraqi missiles hit their cities, go on, ask), there was a need to act. FACT: Video of chemical weapon testing on Kurds was used to bring “Chemical Ali” to justice, videos which prove that Iraq had chemical weapons, weapons one Iraqi General claimed to be in the hands of Syria now. Get your FACTS straight before you even decide to bring that up.

4. What does Celine Dion have to do with anything? She left Canada after being given a big gig at a Casino, with an theatre built for her and her singing. She followed the money, and seeing how crazy she is, we let her go.

5. You think rural Alaska is bad? Welcome to Quebec TABERNAC! A province which pissed away progress in the 50’s for agricultural dependence. Then pissed away Canada for separation, something that didn’t work out too well. Even after discovering an abundance of natural resources, the province sits under the poverty line, receiving heavy funding from Ottawa to stay afloat. How about New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, the welfare dependent provinces? Alaska is going the way of Newfoundland and Alberta, and those who live on the fringe, out in the bush, will have the opportunity to actually make a living with the Alaskan Pipeline Project feeding the “Lower 48”. Keep ignoring the 5 years of steady growth Bush’s tax cuts brought, something even Obama admits to, it shows you how ignorant you are.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/08/obama-you-know-tax-hikes-in-a-recession-may-be-a-bad-idea/

5. CLancop, as in C Lancop, Lancop from the German Langcophf. Go ahead, make a Nazi reference, Obama’s campaign has been making them lately. You guys sure love that “Race card” eh? To say I am a racist is laughable… If you knew me, my friends, or my taste in women, you wouldn’t even dare bring that up.

Pathetic… You all come out looking like ignorant bigots instead of political geniuses…

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

RE: Anonymous (09:33:32) :

Here is some info that you might want that the press isn’t reporting on. This is where I have been living for the past four years, yes, it is in the US, it is in Alaska.

http://www.palinsalaska.com/

8 09 2008
Harley

yo! mudflatians ! this beautiful blog made The Jed Report once again !

scroll down to mary’s comments onhttp://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/home-field-advantage.html

8 09 2008
HamletsMill

sauer kraut (08:27:48) WROTE :

swineprincess – if you make any good designs, you might be able to sell them thru quilldancer’s site. My quick thought was big block letters, in pink, of FREE on top of ALASKA with smaller block letters underneath of “McCain/Palin for President” in some other color. cammie, perhaps?
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Maybe Palin/McCain for President underneath would be better!

8 09 2008
Harley

oops yet a again my nimble old typing fingers screwed up LOL

try this one

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/home-field-advantage.html

8 09 2008
Rabbler

“Bill Clinton knew of Osama bin Laden”

Well, er, I would hope so, since the United States funded and promoted bin Laden’s messianic radical violent cult during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

8 09 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

fredrik

the list is fake…she never asked for specific books to be banned…just a general question as to whether the librarian would support banning books

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Clanclap –

Well, it’s good to see that you agreed with us on the economy debacle, the populations the lack of choice will hurt the most, and the lack of attention to alternative energy. . . that’s a start. . .

8 09 2008
drchill

— McCain’s choice —

The image of a take no prisoners, shaking things up, break the china, maverick ethical reformer ‘hell bent’ on cleaning house and reforming Washington, with a record of reform, high approval ratings and no enemies except those that are jealous of her or the corrupt insiders she’s threatening,… ( inhale )….
Is compelling and I fear it is starting to get traction.

I think that any criticism of her will be seen as ” democratic mud slinging” like they pounced on her poor family…

What will clinch the deal is if she/GOP “Dan Rather’s” a scandal by fabricating false evidence that “Proves the charges are false.”

Obama’s less than energetic and devastatingly sharp criticism of McCain’s choice isn’t helping.

Now that I say it -” McCain’s choice” is how I will refer to her in the future.
Qualified or not hypocrite or wacko of righteous reformer, she’s McCain’s choice.

Why is McCain’s choice someone with so much controversy, doubt and questionable past ?

Its not about Sarah, its about McCain’s choice.

(Sorry thats not an Alaskan point of view…)

8 09 2008
Harley

so what if the list is a fake?

Republicans have no qualms about stretching the truth…
mmmm let me see
Obama is a Muslim ( FALSE )
Obama is a terrorist ( FALSE )
Obama will raise taxes ( FALSE )
Obama is not American ( FALSE )
and on and on and on

Whats good for the goose and all that…..

8 09 2008
Laurie

Come on clancop. Get a grip. Please. Dont try to make it so that these fine folk start thinking we Canadians are stupid. Why oh why do you want to try and say Saddam was involved with Al Qaeda? Show us some links darling…you read it, so they must be there..no?

Does it surprise me that an English Quebecer is raging against his home province…no.

I agree with you on one thing only…I am glad Celine is gone.

8 09 2008
AnneinWA

Anonymous (09:33:32) :

First of all, I was in no way challenging your right to your opinion.

I simply didn’t understand your comment or where it was coming from.

I “discovered” this site “Googling” the day Palin’s nomination was announced and have been reading (mostly) and posting here since. This site is moderated by an Alaskan – good job Mudflats – who has been consistently willing to help us answer our many lingering questions about SP. Do you think, possibly, the Alaskans don’t have all the answers we are looking for? They may have heard rumors for years, but that doesn’t mean those rumors can be documented. Now, that is simply MY opinion.

8 09 2008
fredrik

OK, thanks for the info that the list is a fake. It would have been interesting to know what is considered ban worthy in Wasilla, Alaska.

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

An Alaskan Republica no more, I saw this on a previous post. Did anyone notice the photo’s are from a Joshuavjohnson. If you click on a photo, and at the bottom, it provides an address.

Isn’t this Levi’s last name? Bristol’s “baby daddy”.

http://www.palinsalaska.com/

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

fredrik: Are you sure that is the right link for that book list? It doesn’t look like a “group” about SP at all. I’m not on Facebook so I can’t even get in – could someone check it?

That might just be that list of commonly banned books from the American Library Association. On the other hand, Palin might have been using their list to cross reference the Library there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_commonly_challenged_books_in_the_U.S.

If she was really trying to get “The Halloween ABC” banned, then that’s absurd. Of course, the Reps will just respect her even more. Many of them like to turn the porch light off while small children are standing there ringing the doorbell.

Why is it taking so dang long to get a copy of this book list? Have they all been shredded? Surely there is a public record of this somewhere?

8 09 2008
HamletsMill

Cynthia, TX (08:18:37) WROTE:

and the republicans want this woman to run this country!!! what a joke people!

Gov. Sarah Palin made her first potentially major gaffe during her time on the national scene while discussing the developments of the perilous housing market this past weekend.

Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”

Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/palin-makes-her-first-gaf_n_124792.html
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BINGO!

AGAIN

B_I_N_G_O!

THERE is the FIRST BIG REAL TALKING POINT!

Caribou Barbie doesn’t know JACK SQUAT about this!

The Wall Streeters will take notice of this Snowmobile hick for sure now because it is the investors in Freddy and Fannie (some of the biggest frigg’in MEGA BANKS in the U.S.) who have BILLIONS invested as these stocks have their investments …tank!

This situation is one of the greatest interventions by the U.S. Government into financial markets since the Great Depression and this person is clueless about what is going on. They will probably tutor here now on what to say so she can back pedal. So this has to be a MSM talking point now.

What say you Clancop? Does she know all about how Fanny and Freddy work?

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

I know Johnson is a common name, but just a thought.

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

canclap –

this is from a writer of the interntional herald tribune, and demonstrates that even as far back as the Reagan era, we were supporting Iraq and the terrorists because of the fear of Iran that started in the 70’s under Carter: http://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/9/the_reagan_saddam_connection_we_create

To blame it all on Bill Clinton is irresponsible and does not paint the whole picture. Yes, Mr. Clinton knew of Osama bin Laden and yes, he probably should have responded to his terrorism sooner, but now you’re asking one man to foresee the future while the other man cannot even respond to his present. My biggest problem is how Mr. Bush has responded consistently to the challenges presented to him over the past 8 years.

8 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Oh, never mind – so there is no book list? Oh well…

8 09 2008
Harley

BTW Clancop…..I live in Canada

I have friends….good friends in every Province.
I have lived in 6 Provinces
I can not remember ever meeting anyone filled with such anger as you seem to be.
Tabarnacle ! Chalice ! Tien austie ! Occupez-vous de vos propres affaires

Montreal Citizen ( I speak much better French that I can write )

8 09 2008
chloe

My posts have been purged? I hope that because my last one contained a bunch of links I just got put into the junk filter.

8 09 2008
Anonymous

let me tell you why the video is a road to no where. the people in alaska are not going to go on record about this or anytthing and neither are the people who belong to AIP. they already changed their stories when contacted by the MSM.

None of it is going anywhere for the same reason. someonen is posting a link about the homeless……i saw it. what about it though. who ever is posting the link should contact the MSM and let them know some SPECIFICS about the situation and not back up and start talking nice about palin when they stick a microphone in your faces.

it is obvious about palin being loyal to this AIP but who can prove her loyalties or better yet who will……… who will speak out about the fact of bridge to nowhere……..who will give the hardcore facts about bristol leaving school…..what excuses was given, where was she, etc……..who will give the facts about tracks involvement in the bus vandelism and ultimately joining navy………….who will talk about whether or not Track is actually Triggs father and was in trouble for “possible statutory rape”…………

Who has the power to answer these questions in specific detail are the alaskan citizens and they are not going to.

therefore the best way to help obama is to go back to what we were doing before the palin announcement and start campaiging, donating, etc. to advance his message.

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

RE: Let’sGetReal (09:47:52) :
About the last name, the baby daddy’s name is Johnston

The site is maintained by a someone who lives in that village. He has been living there year round and is tired and fed up with what the state doesn’t do. And to address an earlier post about reservations. Alaska doesn’t have reservations (there might be one, Annette Island), but the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act that was passed in the 70’s was set up so that the land would not be considered reservations. So all the villages in Alaska are not sovereign nations.

I am not sure who had that question, just thought I would post the info I have.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

the book list is not exactly a “hoax”; it is a list of commonly banned books from a censorship website… sorry I can’t seem to find the site just now — we posted it on another article here in Mudflatland a couple of days ago. as stated above, she asked about banning books, she didn’t provide a list that anyone knows of or has been able to provide or has verified independently.

oh and I think I could be VeePee – I lived in Texas, (next door to Mexico) and I have actually been to Mexico, and I had 4 political science courses, and know all the lyrics to “I’m Just a Bill” from School House Rock… vote for me!

8 09 2008
Sarah in CA

I can’t help but feel like every time a new piece of weirdness turns up on Palin, all it does is further our concern that she is unfit to be VP, while it does nothing to alarm anyone else. *sigh*

8 09 2008
Harley

Yeppers…. I concur swineprincess for VeePee

Knowing those words to ” I’m Just A Bill Up On Capitol Hill ”
did it for me ! You already know more than Palin !

8 09 2008
Anonymous

and by the way check out the wasilla website……..they say they never ever had any info regarding censored books…….somebody is lying….we will never know who….. but when msm or anyone else attempts to vet pallin……this is the official report that will be accepted.

http://www.cityofwasilla.com/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=516

http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=26&recordid=137&returnURL=%2Findex.aspx

8 09 2008
ds55

There is a group on FaceBook called “Sarah Palin – Are You Serious, McCain?”
It has 2,354 members and several discussion topics.

http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=23610024935

8 09 2008
Gene

It is time we all start to phone/write/email all of the MSM to get them running this info in the same loop as they did Rev. Wright. If nothing else, send one email to one MSM today demanding they, if not vet, at least follow-up on these stories.

8 09 2008
eidle

I’m an Obama supporter, I’d love it if we could take this guy at his word, but we can’t. There needs to be some independent verification that she was a member of the AIP? And if there isn’t any, this is meaningless. Everyone wants to “claim” a rising star in politics if they feel he or see can serve their ends.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Thanks Harley — and please note: My initials are SP!! (it really wasn’t intentional, but hey it works!)

I’m just a bill.
Yes, I’m only a bill.
And I’m sitting here on Capitol Hill.
Well, it’s a long, long journey
To the capital city.
It’s a long, long wait
While I’m sitting in committee….

8 09 2008
Anonymous

OFFICIAL

Banned or censored books from library by palin from CITY OF WASILLA WEBSITE

http://www.cityofwasilla.com/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=516

8 09 2008
DAM

Photo of SP pregnancy with Track reportedly taken during 7th month.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1083892/Sarah-Palin-Pregnant-with-Track-Palin-in-1989

8 09 2008
drchill

McCain’s Choice makes her first gaffe

I know how to spin it to make her look not clueless. Lets see how they spin it…

I’ve made a vow to refer to her only as McCain’s choice.

McCain’s choice is the issue.

8 09 2008
HamletsMill

Palmdale, CA (08:10:09) ,

Thanks! I needed a laugh! I, too, am feeling queasy today. Are we still in this nightmare? Last night I dreamed I was stuck in Caribou Barbie’s special tanning bed in the Alaskan Governor’s Mansion (do they call it the “White House” too when it snows?) I hate fake tans on women! I have always been wary of women that use those things. When I got out I looked like the Cave Man in the GEICO ads! Anyone want to psychoanalyze this?

Yikes!

Last thing I read before I went to bed was that link of the guy in Albuquerque and his wife and kids who met up with the DYNAMIC DUO from THE BUS in a meet and greet photo op at that restaurant in Arizona:

http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/how-americablog-reader-asked-john-and.html

I think it was that close up cell phone photo of her this guy took in the SUDDEN citizen encounter that set my psyche off. I have avoided women that look like this ALL my life. I can read far too much of her soul. It scares the living whatever out of me. My true love passed away eight years ago. I sleep alone. Maybe my psyche is just too vulnerable for a late night encounter like that in my mind. Maybe I really do need to sleep with a garlic necklace? Or maybe get some kind of DNC Certified Democratic Model blow up doll to sleep with for psychic protection?

Again…yikes!

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Proud2B:
Great listing of the failings. But somehow we need to find a way to distill that into a few gut-level hard hitting phrases. Remember “It’s the economy, stupid.” Of course, that was an “in house” reminder and not designed for public consumption, but it’s clear and simple. Too many of our messages are too cerebral for the “low information” voter. Or for the hypnotized.

Case in point: One of my kids is a prime example. He’s stuck in a small town in Ohio, has concerns about McCain, but is totally enamoured of Palin. He’s drunk swimming pools full of the Kool-Aid, despite having a college degree. Unfortunately, all his degree bought him was a head filled with the supposed benefits of Milton Friedman-style economic thought and Leon Strauss-type political philosophy. In other words, he’s a political and economic neo-con AND a social conservative. I try to talk to him, to get him down from the theoretical and the general to the specifics of how his ideas play out in the REAL WORLD to real people, but it’s like peeing into the wind.

These people need to be spoken to in one syllable words….. very…… slowly. They get their news from Fox, Rush, and Court TV (I’ve forgotten what their new name is). No shit — that’s where my daughter-in-law gets her information. Her dad was a union man, and she thinks that people with white collar jobs “don’t do any real work.” That’s what we’re up against, folks. They have no clue they’re voting exactly opposite their self-interest, that the GOP doesn’t give a rat’s ass about them or their precious values, that all they want is their loyal support so they can keep getting elected.

I just thank God that my other kid understands what’s going on. Need I say that he takes after me in many ways while his brother is a lot like my ex-husband.

8 09 2008
Harley

ooh la la is this an interview with Ms Palin?

I believe its from August 29th on Closing Bell

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26462569?__source=RSS*blog*&par=RSS

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Yikes Palmdale, maybe you can get him deprogrammed? Naaah… my brother’s the same way. He got sucked into Reaganomics and in spite of his blue collar thinks that the Republiars are on his side. He’s a terrible embarrassment to all the generations of Dems in my family… hell our parents worked so hard for Johnson they were invited to the Inauguration and assorted balls… ya buy ’em books, send ’em to school, and still…

8 09 2008
Harley

your welcome swineprincess ( SP )

so on a lighter note :

Conjunction Junction, what’s your function?
Hooking up words and phrases and clauses.
Conjunction Junction, how’s that function?
I’ve got three favorite cars that get most of my job done.
Conjunction Junction, what’s their function?
I’ve got and, but, and or.
They’ll get you pretty far.

8 09 2008
sosad

Clancop
Looks like your history is skin deep . Nice facts . Here are some for you .
This was a mess from the start , a simple history lesson could have prevented.
A WAR ON TWO FRONTS
The first on record – The first Macedonia war ,214 BC ended in a stalemate
The Peninsular war – 1807 – ended in napoleon’s
ww1 – Germany under Kaiser Wilhelm took on multiple fronts ending in a loss
ww2 – Hitler takes on europe and the soviet Union in a two front battle that
destroys Germany .
Looks like some fact checking by the Bush administration would have
been of great value .

8 09 2008
Harley

Did I post this already?
I can not seem to find it if I did.
So here goes…. thought you guys might want to have a read

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-lundberg/sarah-palin-in-verse_b_124231.html

8 09 2008
Chicago

President Bill Clinton ABSOLUTELY did respond to terrorists and the GOP controlled House & Senate raised a holy stink.

See: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=/archive/1998/08/21/wemb21.html

Don’t spout the b.s. Kool-ade around here. The posters on this blog are quite knowledgeable, and can debate with respect.

If you plan to make claims, please back them. Thank you.

8 09 2008
Search the Web on Snap.com

I don’t get it. If the govenor of Alaska’s point here about how drilling in ANWAR and the North slope is such a small footprint is true……if its really true….

then why did she have to go and sue the government to stop the listing of polar bears as endangered-due to the fact that it would hurt Alaska oil interests?

Minimal footprint—Can’t list polar bears ’cause it would hurt oil guys

Something doesn’t add up here.

8 09 2008
Regi

Search the Web on Snap.com (10:25:47) :

I don’t get it. If the govenor of Alaska’s point here about how drilling in ANWAR and the North slope is such a small footprint is true……if its really true….

then why did she have to go and sue the government to stop the listing of polar bears as endangered-due to the fact that it would hurt Alaska oil interests?

Minimal footprint—Can’t list polar bears ’cause it would hurt oil guys

Something doesn’t add up here.

The 2000 acres are spread all over the place.

8 09 2008
Riverside

Something doesn’t add up here.

Hey, my name is Riverside

How in the blazes did it get changed to “Search the web on Snap.com”

Snap.com, get outa’ my face!

Like I said,

Bad for oil to call polar bears threatened so Gov. Palin sues—Palin says oil environmentally safe with minimal imprint.

Just doesn’t add up.

8 09 2008
misskae

Today I asked the coffee grrl (w/ the most gawdawful chopped and dreadlocks hairdo) if she was registered to vote. No, she said SHEEPISHLY. So I very gently explained to her why she had to register, that she could go to Obama’s website and get info and even find out about voting early. I told her I was gonna hold her to it, too. She seemed happy, not p.o.’d when I left.
Anyway, just wanted to encourage everyone to talk to EVERYONE. Especially those young’uns.🙂

8 09 2008
links for 2008-09-08 - Kevin Bondelli’s Youth Vote Blog

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8 09 2008
8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Thanks, Palmdale –
you know what this site has done for many of us IS to help us crystalize our thoughts on the issues.

We are very fortunate over on my side. My son and I have been able to travel a lot and so he has seen and heard first-hand impacts, or the lack thereof, from the USA. (If we want to be thinking future, we really need to help South America or that’s going to be gone in 20 years.)

He attended a great program this summer that is non-profit and I think any one’s high school child can participate if they have a decent GPA: Global Young Leaders Conference – represented the Russian Federation (which is interesting in and of itself), had to research and draft proposals to present to the Student UN. The difference in doing it in this program versus at one’s high school is that there were approximately 300 kids from around the world. His roommates were students from Nigeria, UK and Dubai. He came home incredibly “enlightened” to how the rest of the world views us and our “policies.” He was the one who, in fact, through one of the friends he met at the Program, confirmed that it was Georgia who invaded Russia FIRST (how many of us heard that on the news? I sure didn’t). There is nothing like experiencing someone who you consider a “friend” tell you about the challenges they have in their homeland. It was sobering and gratifying.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Yes, Mr. Clinton knew of Osama bin Laden and yes, he probably should have responded to his terrorism sooner,

Everybody knew about binny, he was our middleman in the arms trade during the Afghan/Soviet Conflict, he was Also on the CIA’s payroll like Saddam was!

And frankly Clinton did try to go after him with Rockets etc., the Repub Congress Screamed Bloody Murder, as was their mantra back than, with Being The Policemen Of The World, they also didn’t like the fact they weren’t getting ‘blowjobs’ so Impeachment was pushed, meanwhile many were Gay, and screaming about How Bad they were, not to mention being on the take of the Defense Contractors!!!!

Well look, we’re the cops of Iraq and Afghanistan!!!!

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Are you guys watching CNN

8 09 2008
Cain

Troll Watch!!!!!!

Ladies & Gentlemen ignore “clancop” > Don’t argue with a fool!

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

They are talking about Palin’s speech about the church need to pray for the pipeline, and it is God’s plan about Irag

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

Thanks, Swine Princess,
If I could manage a do-over, I’d have sent him to school somewhere else, almost anywhere else! I try to assuage my guilt in blaming it all on my ex’s genes. After all, he was part of the kid’s gene pool, too. Can’t bring myself to be as charitable towards my DIL. I keep wanting to think she’s partly to blame, but then I remind myself of that great Republican Abraham Lincoln’s admonition of “with charity towards all and malice towards none….”

Anyone else wondering if he’s spinning in his grave, too.

BTW, got a great cartoon from my brother in law yesterday (too bad we can’t post pics). I’ve asked him for a link so I can point y’all there. Maybe you’ve seen it — the framers wondering if they should put something into the Constitution “in case they ever elect a f***ing moron.”

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Iraq

8 09 2008
Sarah in CA

In Obama’s case it’s a bad thing to be “elite,” but Palin & her friends call their group of buds “The Elite 6.”

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=5750876&page=1

And I’ve tired of reading comments posted on “news” sites regarding the polls. It’s just a bunch of vitrol about Obama’s empty promises. Like… HAVE THESE PEOPLE BEEN LIVING IN A CAVE FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS?

Palmdale, I feel for ya — at least you got one kid on the right track!😉 (And your daughter should realize how anti-union Republicans tend to be — which makes me wonder why so many blue-collar workers support that ticket. Illogical.)

8 09 2008
Chicago

A note about polls and focus groups as one who has observed from behind the dark glass wall.

When recruiting for a focus group, one weeds out certain occupations (regardless of the issue), somewhat similar to jury duty in a way (do yo or anyone you know ever been a victim of a crime, etc). A common question asked: do you or a member of your household ever work for or in (x occupation): marketing, journalism, advertising, media of any kind… etc. The thinking being these people can manipulate results.

Sample Question 1: On first impression, what did you think of Sarah Palin?
a. very good
b. good
c. bad
d. very bad
e. neither good or bad

A likely follow up question, one would THINK is: With regards to platform…
BUT that IS NOT the kind of question a focus group would be asked. It tends to focus on gut, reactions. Similar to a spontaneous purchase in a shop. One may go to the grocery for bread and milk, but spontaneously purchase the crap at check out: candy bar, magazine, etc…
The statical experts believe that gut reactions rule over intellect. Based on the last 8 years, one would have to say they are correct.

When a pollster calls your home (if you have a land line), you may also be weeded out prior to a single question being asked. In reality, there is a real issue regarding out reach to cell only users (that tend to be younger).

Just saying. The only poll that counts is the day after the election.
And, no I’ll skip the beer with Palin–if she even drinks in her religion.

8 09 2008
Harley

VERY SCARY…..and what I have been thinking……
WE MUST STOP THIS INSANITY !!!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-mckay/were-gonna-frickin-lose-
t_b_124772.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-foner/were-in-big-trouble_b_124686.html

8 09 2008
AME

I saw Muckraker comment a couple of days ago that sometimes posts with links wind up in the spam filter – have tried to post this twice this morning, both times it disappeared …
on their “World Newser” blog, ABC is actively soliciting questions for Charlie Gibson to ask Sarah Palin …

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2008/09/questions-for-s.html

8 09 2008
Harley

damn new google browser…does not like to copy / paste correctly

here is the proper first link above

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-mckay/were-gonna-frickin-lose-t_b_124772.html

8 09 2008
drchill

Uncle Joe Mccarthy (09:37:33)

Secession is not treason. I remember when Staten Island had a friendly and real secessionist movement. Okay secession from NYC.
Its a right people have. The USA asserted its right of Independence in 1776.
Thats not to say AIP doesn’t have its wackjobs.
But then again what party or church does NOT have its wackjobs?

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@ Proud2B:
Yes, he did see 3rd world poverty as a youngster, and he was even in his H.S. chapter of Amnesty International. Hard to believe, but true. He definitely had lots of exposure to ideas and ideals that were contrary to his current beliefs. We took him to see Platoon to show him the horrors or war so he would factor that into all the glamorizing and romanticizing of it in the media and political when it serves the “national” interest. And that’s while my ex and I were together!

It all changed when he went off to college and met his bride. I do take a small amount of comfort in that my ex has confessed that he’s no longer listening to Rush. We used to have rather heated conversations nearly 20 years ago in which we debated whether Rush was an entertainer as he was claiming or a demagogue. My ex refused to believe that people were actually taking Rush seriously. I saw it coming way back then.

8 09 2008
clancop

Seems you not only don’t know of America, but World politics too.

1. Following the fall of the Sha of Iran, the USA threw support behind Iraq to combat fundamentalist Islam in the region (Sunni Iraq vs Shi’ite Iran). The Americans were willing to trust Saddam since a cu his party instigated eliminated a man the Americans were trying to depose, Abd al-Karim Qasim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Karim_Qasim

2. Someone wants a link to information about an Iraq/ al-Qaeda link?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070724-9.html

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was the man in the middle, between Saddam and bin Laden. Various reports put him both in and out of Iraq before 9/11, traveling between the countries setting up terrorist networks. His al-Qaeda in Iraq was actually Group of Monotheism and Jihad, but renamed to show his loyalty to al-Qaeda, a group he had at first refused to work with. Financial motives are what many analyst claimed were his reasons for swearing allegiance to bin Laden, seeing that he couldn’t continue his attacks without it.

Even CNN did a story about this a while back… Geez…

3. Angry? I have a chip on my shoulder, watching Vancouver pot smoking its way to socialism, watching stupidity and fiction take over respectable news broadcasts, watching for the last few years as the NDP and the new Liberal leader try pissing away our record of peace keeping by demanding we pull out of Afghanistan and ignoring calls to step in in Darfur, etc Most Liberals and Conservatives voted to keep our troops there because of our importance to the NATO mission, something Dion has split MY PARTY in two over. I bleed Liberal RED, but even I can’t stand to see what Jean Cretien did when he let Paul Martin, former Prime Minister and a good man, take the hit for his corruption.

I see in Barack what I see in Jack Layton, a man who wants to strip the weapons of a military power, ignoring the threats of a Post-9/11 world, ignoring the lessons of WWII and the Cold War, etc I also read Barack’s book, and I see someone more dangerous then Rev Wright, someone who’s racist beliefs are hidden under a guise of “unity”… He is smart, charismatic and likeable, but he is inexperience, bigoted in his racial views, and an all around megalomaniac, someone who doesn’t belong in the White House.

You want to tell me you have friends in other provinces, great, but living in Montreal you live much better than most in Quebec. Yes, you are a snob by comparison. The “Tabernac” reference was to the culture of agriculture and poverty which has been very influential on the development of rural Quebec. Such language is seen as “lower class” among French Canadians, something that is less obvious as these terms have made there way into modern slang. Haven’t taken a Canadian history course at the university level have you? It is also obvious you don’t follow the national news, CBC did a few news stories on welfare abuse in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, look them up. Because of this, the Conservatives have been calling for widespread welfare reform for that last DECADE, something even mentioned in present Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s platform for office.

My family has been here before Canada was Canada, fighting for the British during the American Revolution, so don’t question my patriotism. The Lancops and Melloches were among the first families in this great land, a country which was built on the backs of men and women like them, DON’T you forget it.

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Thanks, JimStaro –

Conclap – Mr. Staro is one of our esteemed veterans on this site. He has LIVED it. Have you?

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“Today I asked the coffee grrl (w/ the most gawdawful chopped and dreadlocks hairdo) if she was registered to vote. No, she said SHEEPISHLY. So I very gently explained to her why she had to register, that she could go to Obama’s website and get info and even find out about voting early. I told her I was gonna hold her to it, too. She seemed happy, not p.o.’d when I left.
Anyway, just wanted to encourage everyone to talk to EVERYONE. Especially those young’uns”

yeah, that’s what i’m talking about! kudos to you misskae!

8 09 2008
Laurie

Anonymous re banned books. That still doesnt negate anything. Nobody ever said she banned the books or even that it was an official request. What we do know is she asked the librarian IF she would support her on it…and then tried to fire her because she didnt. Citizens of the community came out in force for the librarian, so she kept her on, and was at least smart enough to know that she couldnt really broach that subject for the time being.

8 09 2008
Harley

OMG more lies !

they just keep coming like a train wreck and no one is calling them out !

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/the-palin-propaganda-is-politi.html

8 09 2008
Laurie

Clancop…go get busy getting Harper re-elected.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

clancop:

Take a Hike!!

And Please don’t try and tell Us Americans About Our Country while sitting on your Ass in Canada!!

You look like that arses ‘crack’!!!

8 09 2008
Anonymous

for those of you who don’t understand
here is an example of “REAL AMMUNITION”

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/08/obama-camp-sends-out-embarrassing-palin-pic

SEE THE PICTURE……….HER CAMPAIGN T-SHIRT FOR BRIDGE TO NOWHERE

This is real evidence folks……..not these “blog hints”

8 09 2008
drchill

Harley (10:42:45) :

The GOP has taken/stolen the Change and reform idea and re branded it.
Its based on the ‘maverick character’ the break china, take no prisoners, shake things up image they are now promoting.
McCain is an old doddering loose cannon that is often aimless and disconnected.
Like Bush, shes getting her cred as – Its not what my opponents say about me.

The line for Bush was he’s really smarter than people think. McCain’s choice will be hailed as more ethical successful and more experienced and not the train wreck her opponents say.

Darned liberal press!

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

Harley,
most people know this is a lie. this will not make the repubs look good at all. i say let them run the ad. their “airplane” is on fire, it’s just a matter of time before the mcpalin ticket goes down.

i heard “mcpalin” by a caller on ed shultz show, thought it was clever.

8 09 2008
ds55

Someone above wrote “Secession is not treason.”

I would argue that having a secessionist at the center of American politics is inappropriate and possibly dangerous.

8 09 2008
sosad

Anonymous — FANTASTIC !!!!!!

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Harley (10:39:18)

THIS is why we have to get down to our local Obama or Democratic Party HQ and volunteer. I went on Saturday, told the volunteer coordinator that I was a writer, an educator and an office manager — basically if you need it done I can do it — and oh did I mention UNEMPLOYED with two degrees??? Motivated? Hell yes I am am motivated. I have time and a brain and I can volunteer every day for the next 60 if I have to. I know everyone isn’t in the position I am in — and thanks be to the higher power of your choice for that — money is good, time and effort is better. Mostly the people you talk to from a base like your local HQ is your community. We have to connect with our community and put a face on WHY these people cannot be allowed to win or steal the election.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Anonymous:

I believe Huffington had that on her site the other day as well.

The reports are coming out about her Flip Flopping and the Money that never came back to the treasury, seems though that nobody has a complete list on just what it was spent on, but I don’t think anyone needs to search that out just yet, it should be in the public records and with all the investigative journalists now in Alaska it will hit the reports sooner rather than later!

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

conclap –

I think you may want to consider crossing the border, becoming an American citizen and then signing up to fight on the front lines. (Celine may be able to help you with this.) It’s obvious when I look at your sources (whitehouse.gov) many of us go there to get transcripts but we know there’s “spin” (regardless of the Party affiliation). I check as many sources as possible (left, right, libertarian, what I hope may be moderate, international. . . ) because we know there is going to be some “spin” – that’s the American way!

I’m sorry for the challenges you have in Quebec.

However, we are here to learn more about the issues so we can cast a vote in less than 60 days for our leader for the next four years. The world is a complicated place and goodness knows, the good old USA just loves to be smack in the middle. As many of this site can probably tell you, we are more than aware that US changes its loyalties depending on the oil availability. We are more than aware that US interests determine “who” are our friends. We don’t have a long attention span as a country and I’m one who cannot take the continued take on isolationism and trying to be the World Police when we can’t even do a good job at home. There is more to democracy than the military, my friend.

We appreciate your frustration; however, for those of us who have seen and lived through most of the poor decisions inflicted on us by the current administration, it will be difficult for someone who does not have relatives in Louisiana, Mississsippi, etc or has a loved one overseas and can’t sleep at night worrying, to clearly understand them – just as I do not understand all that is frustrating you with Quebec. I wish you well.

8 09 2008
Ishtar

Re: clancop and other trolls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Remember: Do not feed the trolls!

8 09 2008
Raingods

Seems the MSM will grow tired of their honeymoon with the new kid on the block, and then we’ll start seeing the news that’t we’ve all known before them.

8 09 2008
Wyogal

Interview on the day her son leaves for deployment, huh? No one would dare ask tough questions of the brave mother on that poignant day. Forget about asking her why she was for the bridge before she was against it or why she made statements suggesting she supported a timetable out of Iraq…
I predict that all Sarah Palin interviews and debates will somehow coincide with a major family event in order to avoid real scrutiny and push the “story of Sarah the American governing supermom.”

8 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

happy monday mudflatians!

1st economy gaffe: palin does not know that fannie mae/freddie mac are not taxpayer funded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/palin-makes-her-first-gaf_n_124792.html

8 09 2008
swineprincess

I did not post the treason quote to suggest that secessionists were guilty of treason, I posted it to show that a group calling themselves RED STATE (implication here is that they are Republicans) thought that secessionist movements were treasonous. I thought the implication would be clear…and yet… so… RED staters seem to think that secession would be equivalent to treason. One would think that Republican RED state types would want to know if their VicePresidentBarbie is treasonous or has treasonous leanings or if her spouse has treasonous leanings.

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

You have to watch CNN, they are getting ready to report again about Palin’s church, and how the churches are doing something that is against the law!

8 09 2008
tammy

Like I said the republican ticket is the “feel sorry for me” ticket.

8 09 2008
Bluedog

Apologies if someone mentioned this already, but Mudflats was mentioned in the New Yorker in this funny little article about Lyda Green:

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/09/15/080915ta_talk_lizza

Go Mudflats!

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Ishtar, you’re right, right, right. Thanks!

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@Clancop,
A brief history lesson for you. I’m sure you must know that the Shah was placed on that Peacock Throne thanks to the CIA. The Iranian people had democratically elected another guy, but the CIA wasn’t too thrilled with him because he didn’t toe to US line. Seems he wanted the Iranians to control their oil resources. Sound familiar? So they deposed him and installed the Shah who would be beholden to US policy and US oil interests. Not surprisingly, the Iranian people took offense to that, and of course to his beloved Savak secret police. They weren’t too thrilled either that the Shah and his family were living like the princes they wanted to believe they were, while the rest of the population suffered. So they started looking around for someone who they thought might be an improvement. They found a strong nationalist in the infamous Ayatolla Khomeini, who had a thing in for the US because we’d killed his son but who portrayed himself as wanting to restore Iranian civilization. The Iranians are rightfully proud of their culture and of their history — remember the Persian civilization? We know what happened next, but it’s important to know “the rest of the story” as Paul Harvey used to say.

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“Seems the MSM will grow tired of their honeymoon with the new kid on the block, and then we’ll start seeing the news that’t we’ve all known before them.”

my thoughts exactly. i say, keep up with the media saturation, americans will get sick of her soon enough.

8 09 2008
8 09 2008
portland oregon native

Check out the latest edition of the Economist mag.
The article/editorial is by Lexington and it slams! Palin, McCain, and Bush!.
Now this mag is very conservative and has consistantly supported the Bushies for 8 years. I take some comfort from this article, as it show there is a good deal of discontent with “McCains’s choice” among more conservative and wealthy business types.

8 09 2008
Raingods

They’re showing Palin’s church on CNN, but I’m at work and can’t hear it, what are they saying?

8 09 2008
Mil

CNN has ahold of the youtube videos from the church sermons on the end of days that she spoke about! *watching it now*

8 09 2008
Meleana

Let’s get busy making sure we have a clean election. When the race is “too close to call” (or at least that’s what Disney/Viacom/GE networks report), then the stage is set for stealing an election.

We are not the same people we were 4 years ago. Breath in, breath out, and give your undistracted support to Obama. He has not failed to calmly get out of the way of every stupid rumor and distraction that’s been tossed at him yet. This is just the latest one. BTW State by State polls differ greatly from the national polls.

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

Link to Lexington’s piece in The Economist
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12066224

There are several other articles on the GOP convention and related info. Start at the home page… http://www.economist.com

8 09 2008
Harley

they are making Palin and her religion and her church sound like
” Leave It To Beaver “

8 09 2008
willpen

I have made a post on my blog asking people to get involved in the MSNBC debacle concerning Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman:

I have stickied this on the top of my front page:

http://www.willpen.wordpress.com

8 09 2008
Harley

God I can not wait for Olbermann and Maddow tonight

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/08/1360509.aspx

8 09 2008
Mil

Questions for Palin that I left at: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2008/09/questions-for-s.html?cid=129683424#comment-129683424

~~~

Mr. Gibson, please ask:

“What are your views on birth control?”

“What are your views on abortion and choice?”

“What are your views on sex education?”

“What are your views on the gay community and gay rights, such as adoption?”

“What are your views on global warming and how to combat it?”

“You claim to be against earmarks, yet you hired a lobbyiest while you were mayor of Wasilla and got $3000 per person in earmark funding. Please explain this.”

“When you became Mayor of Wasilla, why did you demand resignation from your top staff as a sign of loyalty?”

“How is it that Hillary Clinton is “whiney” (as said by you on tape) when she cried out at the press attention, yet you are simply defending yourself when you refrain from talking to the press for longer than any other vice-presidential candidate?”

“When did McCain actually tap you for the vice-presidential nomination?”

“How did Bristol’s pregnancy affect your decision to accept the vice-presidential nomination?”

8 09 2008
Marion in Savannah

The latest thing I’ve heard floating about is that Track enlisted to keep his little butt out of jail after vandalizing school buses with a couple of friends. Is there any scintilla of truth to this?

8 09 2008
tammy

Have you seen the msnbc coverage today? They are not the place for politics anymore.

8 09 2008
tspey

I am sending a link to this post to all of my conservative friends of which I have quite a few being an Alaskan. More are making their political views known to me after reading my blog:

http://tspey.wordpress.com/

To Muck,

You should think about selling merchandise…

T-shirt / Bumper sticker naming ideas anyone?

McMucked
Muck McPalin…

8 09 2008
Mil

Tspey:

Don’t Muck it up, Vote Obama!

8 09 2008
8 09 2008
Cassie

http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx is no longer working. Cashed pages only.

8 09 2008
Phil

Now we have Lindsay Lohan blogging in Palin’s defense? When did she become the voice of reason and sanity? Somebody, please give me some hope for the young celebrities in Hollywood who seem to be from the most misinformed generation this country has ever seen!!!

8 09 2008
tammy

Phil that is something the democrats can use. They were putting down Obama for being the celebrity. Well now the shoe is on the other foot.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

I am so glad I didn’t hear McShame say this live, I’d probably have no TV and no computer right now… having thrown the computer at the TV…

“Americans, wherever they are, aren’t like Sen. Obama said in small towns in Pennsylvania that only cherish their Second Amendment rights and their religion because they don’t like the economic conditions,” McCain said. “Americans in Missouri, Pennsylvania and all over this country value those rights because they love America, because they love America.”

He just said this to a crowd in Lee’s Summit, MO — apparently unaware that Lee’s Summit is NOT small town America being one of the larger ‘burbs of the Greater Kansas City Metro.

I was watching the speech… they’d parked a yawning, sleepy 12 year-old black kid (now why wasn’t he in school?) and his mom front and center along with the youngest people they could find — mostly 50-70 year old white-folks behind the podium… Sorry guys I muted when SP told us again that she put the airplane on EBay thereby missing this gem… had to get it off the MSNBC reporting of the speech http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/08/1362730.aspx

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

Here is Palin flower debating in Alaska about the famous bridge to no where.

I wouldn’t [cancel the project]. I’m not going to stand in the way of progress that our congressional delegation — in the position of strength that they have right now — they’re making those efforts for the state of Alaska to build up our infrastructure. I would not get in the way of progress.

Here is the video
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/palin-bridge-access-road/

8 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Marion in Savannah: Randi Rhodes mentioned it on her show last week. He apparently stole a bottle of vodka and was also allegedly charged with vandalism of school buses. I had a link to the story some place and will find it again if I can.

8 09 2008
ds55

To tspey: I think Muck could just open a PayPal tip jar for us.
My t-shirts and bumperstickers already say “Obama”.

8 09 2008
tammy

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/flashback_during_dem_primary_d.php

Sorry if this has been posted but abc is another network in the tank for McCain.

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

so the flags from the DNC story that faux news reported–FALSE

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/06/thrown-away-flags-story-f_n_124499.html

8 09 2008
Phil

Tammy, true! Wait until Lindsay’s booze, drugs, and birth control pills are banned! We’ll see what she has to say then. I’m going a bit over the top, I know!

8 09 2008
Sue

I just wanted to alert you all to a stellar article by Glenn Greenwald at Salon.com about the recent programming decisions at MSNBC and the bigger issue of a media bias in general. He really has it right (as in correct). Just a tip: have a couple of drinks before you read it.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/08/msnbc/

8 09 2008
Harley

tspey…great blog…been meaning to tell you that !

Obama needs to ask if the reason the Palin teen hasn’t married her beau is because of healthcare!! As long as she’s not married, she’s on her parents insurance for the baby – if she married the baby-daddy, they’d have to scrape together the money to pay. Yep, pro-life, but not pro LIFE; and, where’s that healthcare policy for these situations.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
from a comment on First Read

8 09 2008
Ky

OMG, Giuliani is getting all the heat for the “community organizer” comments, now?
On CNN, right now.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Palmdale, CA:

And least we forget to tell our new friend ‘klan’, in it’s history lesson, that Saddam was also installed by the CIA as they helped him in his coup, and helped, on it’s payroll, to dispose of the Saddam enemies!!

8 09 2008
Anonymous

tspey advising this blogger on how to make money on her blog since so many of us fools keep hanging out here…. why not get paid, huh

8 09 2008
Louie

Unfortunatly, I am coming to realize that the people in this country are just too ignorant. It doesn’t matter what she does, or says, or has been involved in in the past. Intelligence will not win this election, the rethugs bullying will. It is sad and very depressing to watch.

8 09 2008
tspey

ds55,

Right O. To all, here is the Track link which you can also find on my site:

http://frontiersman.com/articles/2005/12/06/news/news2.txt

http://tspey.wordpress.com/

8 09 2008
Marion in Savannah

Rhett O’Rical, it would be great if you could scrounge that out. (LOVE your name!)

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

The Lexington piece ought to be required reading FOR ALL. Typical British understatement, but very much on point.

But don’t miss the two-part “Examining Alaska.” Hits the nail on the head with a statement that the state distributions this year “put a family of four three-fifths of the way toward the federal poverty level in the lower 48 states.”
I don’t know about the rest of you, but that sure sounds like the GOP could be hammered on the point that Alaska is a welfare state.

And then there’s this from part 2… “two-thirds of Alaskans believe Mr Stevens to be at least as ethical as most politicians. This seems to prove that Alaskans do not care much about corruption, as long as their representatives keep the dollars flowing.”

Where, my fellow Mudflats addicts, have we heard that before? Well done, AKM. Keep up the great work!

8 09 2008
Marion in Savannah

tspey, thanks! Great collection of links you’ve got there.

8 09 2008
Harley

MSNBC just had Palins bulldog on and showing Palin stumping in Missouri

Where is Obama stump footage?

8 09 2008
tspey

Harley: likewise. Enjoy your great blog as well. My fly fishing friends think I have gone politiloco.

Anonymous: More on the lines of… for donating said funds to Obiden.

To MF: In awe of your breaking news real time posts.

8 09 2008
drchill

McCain’s Choice

8 09 2008
tammy

Harley I haven’t seen any. Or they will just show him talking and not let you hear what he is saying. Where is the Hillary footage? I called them and complained.

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@Jimstaro
Or that we funded and armed BinLaden while he and his fellow mujahideen (derived from the same root word as jihad) were fighting the Soviets.

George W (Washington, that is) was right when he cautioned about avoiding foreign entanglements. They get so, well, tangled, don’t they.

8 09 2008
Harley

I corrected something I had overlooked a few days tspey…BLOGROLL !!!!

Better late than never ! LOL

My blog pales in comparison to some of the great blogs I have found through mudflats. I do thank you though. I enjoy so much reading all of you gifted writers on here. I just compile what you guys write….saving the great writing for posterity. ( Some may argue I do because of my feeble mind LOL )

8 09 2008
drchill

oops

McCains choice (SP)

Her Positions ?

Change you can expect..

8 09 2008
Anonymous

ok
yeah right donate

8 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

I guess we just don’t get any media coverage on this
****************************************************************************
Republican red faces as regulators close bank

By Andrew Ward in Washington and Joanna Chung in New York

Published: September 8 2008 03:11 | Last updated: September 8 2008 03:11

A bank with ties to the family of John McCain was shut down by federal regulators on Friday, marking the 11th US bank failure this year and threatening to cause ripples across the presidential election campaign.

Andrew McCain, son of the Republican presidential nominee, was a director of Nevada-based Silver State Bank until resigning in July for “personal reasons”.

He was a member of Silver State’s audit committee, which has responsibility for overseeing the bank’s financial accounts.
***************************************************************************

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/03409c8c-7d46-11dd-8d59-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

8 09 2008
Sarah Palin Scares Me « Captaincanuck’s Weblog

[…] been well-publicized, but under-emphasized.  This is a secessionist movement, and Palin remains sympathetic to this group.  Isn’t this treasonous?  Isn’t John McCain a military man, a war hero, […]

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Cynthia, TX :

When this hit it brought back the memories of good ole Neil Bush and his Savings and Loan collapse back in the Banking Crisis.

That was quickly put to the inside of the papers in small boxes as daddy bush had given the ‘wink and nod’ to ole buddy Saddam to invade Kuwait, than we went after him with daddy’s war!!

Notice you Rarely Hear Any Mention of Neil!!

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

I just switched over to read the latest on Truthout, and there’s a great article there on Rachel Maddow and her new show. But, while I haven’t even finished the article, one comment just leaped off the page at me with its implications.
“critics increasingly call the network a Fox News of the left…”

I don’t know about you, but that sounds awfully like an admission that Fox isn’t really fair and balanced. Who would have known!

8 09 2008
Anonymous

to tspey

regarding track link/vandelism–

you don’t get either do you. can’t you see that most of the people reading these blogs have good researching skills. we are not simpley looking for articles. We kind them. we need the details behind the stories. otherwise the links are useless. unless someone can write in detail what happened in these cases or point to articles that points out the players included in the details it’s useless.

i went to your site at tspey and you have lots of links…….no real info

good for you……… i’m very frustrated over what appears to me to be alaskans just toying with the rest of the country…….kinda mockery just like palen

just my opinion

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Oh and Neil walked away with a bundle, while we bailed the bank out, same again now!!

8 09 2008
Harley

They are are talking about the lie about the bridge right now on MSNBC

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Anonymous:

If you’re to damn lazy to research, as many of us do, why are you hanging out at blogs!!

Hit the bricks there slick, and do what You’re Bitching About!!!!!!

We Do, that’s why we give Links, we’re not fat boy rush the oppinionator!!

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Anonymous, there was an issue in that link about Track alledgedly sodimized someone.

8 09 2008
plwalsh

What is going on with the polls? They seem all over the place today.

This morning I heard Zogby (on their own radio show!) take 15 minutes of air time to explain why their poll was so different from Gallup (about 6 points different) and why Zogby was more accurate (likely voters vs. registered voters, “interactive” vs. phone, party balances vs. random).

It really doesn’t seem possible for an accurate poll (Gallup) to swing 17 pts. in a couple of days.

Meanwhile, I drove down to our swing-state capital today on business and am STILL seeing NO McCain signs. Very strange.

8 09 2008
Harley

Dear God I am living in the twilight zone

AnonyMOOSE, are you for real?

8 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

I still only see an Alaska lapel pin on Palin. What’s up with that?

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

RE: Anonymous (12:00:07) : “i’m very frustrated over what appears to me to be alaskans just toying with the rest of the country”

We aren’t toying with you. We just want people to be informed and to know what goes on up, because up until Palin was selected no one had a clue as to what went on in Alaska. I am sure that some people had to get out a map and see where the state is actually located, no it’s not by Mexico. So, if you are frustrated with us Alaskans, then stay off the blog!

8 09 2008
Laurie

Oh my…..I just got a 4th email from Lynn Clark the wife of the president of the AIP. I had emailed her this morning, and the poor lady is so rattled she keeps writing me…first to belittle me,…then to try and convince me her husband had mis-spoke.

I just responded to her and told her that if she and hubby made a mistake of that magnitude, perhaps they both should resign. She is as nutty as SP

8 09 2008
Shanon

Let’s GetReal:

She only wears the Alaska pin, because hello, it’s Alaska First. Her friends at AIP would die if she sported the American Flag pin.

8 09 2008
An Alaskan Republican, no more

Re: Anonymous

I also wanted to add, that if you are frustrated with us, how do you think we have been feeling the last 8 years!

8 09 2008
strangelet

drchill —

Secession may not be treason, but it is definitely not permitted for states, by well-established case law (cf Grant v Lee, 1865)

8 09 2008
tspey

Anonymous,

Thanks for the input. Please make note that I said to “Please read the links below with an open mind, a grain of salt and decide for yourself”. Just one person’s opinion. Nothing personal.

As an Alaskan, I have been witness to the ‘real deal’ Palin and IMHO, she is nothing what a Vice President of the US should be.

8 09 2008
Diva

Regarding Clancop- he posted if we knew his taste in women, we would not think of him as racist.

That must mean he dates or is involved with women of color.

That explains his dislike of Senator Obama. He knows he cannot compete and he is jealous!😉

8 09 2008
jimstaro

I am sure that some people had to get out a map and see where the state is actually located,

Especially on her side of the political thought process, many here in the lower 48 think Alaska is in that little box either just to the side of or just above Hawaii.

8 09 2008
Anonymous

jimstaro

evidently you have the wrong person
i done all the research and nothing on this site or most of the others is new to me i have done it all. i think my last post was made directly to another commenter. who asked you to but in. as i said most of the people on this site and others are smart enough that they have seen just about everything out there. my outcry is to the people of alaska to encourage them to speak about specific details that they may have about these situations that could help bring more clarity to each.

i know i am not wrong for asking if there is someone out there whou might be willing to come forward with more encourgament

that said jimstaro mind your own damn business

8 09 2008
tammy

Plwalsh on the polls, didn’t I read during the primary that the zogby poll was actually more accurate than the gallop poll?

8 09 2008
8 09 2008
tammy

Diva , in response to what the troll said on the women he dates, etc. in my experience if you have to put in the conversation “I have black friends but……..” you still have some racist tendencies.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

evidently you have the wrong person

Nope, you’re picking the Wrong Argument and Showing how big an ass you got!!!

8 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Marion in Savannah: Thanks!!! I have this link for the vandalism issue:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×6892728

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@Jimstaro
You bet I remember! During that part of my life I was living in Albuquerque, working (as a temp/contractor) for the Resolution Trust Corp. One of the S&Ls I worked on was Sandia Federal, second in cost to the taxpayers to Charles Keating’s Lincoln Savings. It’s no surprise to me that McCain the younger also has ties to that industry. They’ve moved from the S&Ls to the banks and the investment banks, that’s all. When the S&Ls went under, it was mostly individual homeowners who got hurt. This time they were playing with much bigger fish, so the pain’s a lot wider.

I don’t know if the books are still in print, but there were a couple of exposes at the time that tied George the Elder and the Bush family to several of the kaput institutions, along with a number of other shady characters who are more related to the Sopranos. It was readily apparent in looking at the lists of bad loans that anyone who’d REALLY done the required due dilligence should have noticed something rotten in Denmark.

Come to think of it, there was an eerily similar conjunction of oil, financial institutions, and a mortgage/credit meltdown then, too. Big difference was one of scale. That one seemed (at least from what I saw) to be focused on to Texas, Florida, and Arizona, with California less impacted. There were thousands of credit cards with which you could use the equity in your house to pay bills. When oil prices collapsed in Texas, the house of cards collapsed. That was during the Reagan administration, when they loosened the rules governing banks and simultaneously cut the number of people doing oversight. Don Regan was Treas. Sec., as I recall. And he and Rummy and Cheney were buds. If the key to catching terrorists is their webs of contacts, we ought to be able to use the same tools for these homegrown types. They just use a different form of violence — it starts with economic violence and goes from there if that doesn’t get enough bang for the buck.

8 09 2008
Political Amazon

Palmdale, the leader the CIA disposed in Iran was Mossadegh, the leader who didn’ want to lead for years, but who always stood up–sometimes risking his life–to get Iran and its oil resources back into the hands of Iran. He stood up to the Brits for their heinous exploitation of Iran. He was a truly honest, good man, who the U.S./CIA took advantage of in their coup to overthrow him. By that time Iran was no longer friendly with the Brits, and the U.S. sucker-punched Mossadegh. It is, indeed, one of the U.S.’s most shameful hours.

For a good, readable history of Iran, including the U.S.’s shameful actions there, read “All the Shah’s Men.”

No wonder Iran HATES the U.S., and Bush Jr’s actions have not made it any better.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Anony

at least we own up to who we are and take the time to blog… you are just a snarky sniper… go away

8 09 2008
Palin and The Alaskan Independence Party « Golden Years, My @$$ (GYMA)

[…] and The Alaskan Independence Party Mudflats has an interesting post today about the on-going controversy of Sarah Palin’s connection with […]

8 09 2008
Anonymous

i didnt get the wrong person

jimstaro (12:04:25) :

Anonymous:

If you’re to damn lazy to research, as many of us do, why are you hanging out at blogs!!

Hit the bricks there slick, and do what You’re Bitching About!!!!!!

We Do, that’s why we give Links, we’re not fat boy rush the oppinionator!!

8 09 2008
Quiet Advocate

Yes, on CNN, too. However, they are using Meg Stapelton, to “explain” that Palin was trying to save Alaska’s money. Meg Stapleton, Palin’s former aide! She has the same smile and same persuasive ways. Can’t CNN choose a better person to interview? It is totally biased. I heard CNN use Meg yesterday. She is just as crafty is Palin is. Doesn’t CNN claim to be unbiased? Where is objectivity?

8 09 2008
jimstaro

No wonder Iran HATES the U.S., and Bush Jr’s actions have not made it any better.

And now we’ve sealed the deal with Iraq, as to the Hatreds, who will Alignwith Iran and they and others in the region will Align with China and probably Russia, but China first!!

We can kiss the region bye bye, and watch for the Blowback coming our way and anyone foolish enough to allie with us, unless we can just steer this ship of state back into at least an attempt at the right direction, a Hawk McCain, a flyboy not a Grunt on the ground of ‘Nam like the rest of us, will Not Even Try To Turn The Wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Hey Palmdale CA – just found this point that you may want to share with your child:

Clinton’s last budget was 18.6% of GDP according to the OMB. Compare that to the most recent Bush/Cheney Republican Congress budget of 20.8%. Yes, that’s right: Bush/Cheney & the Republican Congress added more than 2% of the U.S. economy to the size of the Federal Government. And while they were at it they’ve added almost 4 trillion dollars in debt!

And if you think that’s an aberation: Reagan’s budgets swelled to 22.5% of GDP. So the only folks who vote Republican are those who want a LARGER federal government, and of course those voters who can’t do arithmetic.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

Anony

you are posting on an open list and we all respond to each other here — you can’t pick and choose who responds to you. If you can’t behave go away.

8 09 2008
jimstaro

Anonymous:

Re-Sign In as ‘Confused’ that user name fits you better!!!

8 09 2008
Ky

Some Alaskans close to Palin have spoken out against her. Anne Kilkenny and Lyda Green are just a couple:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/palin-laughs-as-opponent_n_122776.html

As it has been mentioned many times before, many are scared to speak out against Palin, since she has a habit of firing anyone who disagrees with her.

I think this blog is an excellent source to find Alaskans’ point of view. I know that this information is being forwarded to new medias, and the fact that Mudflats is appearing in National publications such as the New Yorker indicate that at least some are starting to listen!

8 09 2008
Palmdale, CA

@Amazon
I knew the name of Mossadegh. But the trolls have used the Commie epithet to defang him. I figured I’d just lay out the pattern and point to why the Iranians might have had a different view of what history than most Americans do..

After I hit the submit button, I was thinking how commonly our real elites, the US multinationals and the CIA have undermined or overthrown legitimate governments when they wouldn’t play ball and installed some sort of fascist or protofascist instead. South America is littered with examples, as are parts of Asia. The list is too long to ennumerate, but Klein’s “Shock Doctrine” is also instructive of the pattern. As is “Imperial Life in the Emerald City” tho I’m not sure its authors were conscious of the comparison. I don’t think Klein’s book had come out yet.

8 09 2008
tammy

Not what Palin was hoping for.

Alaska Sen. French to retain oversight of Palin ‘troopergate’ probe

By MATT VOLZ , Associated Press

September 8, 2008

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – A Republican effort failed Monday to unseat the Alaska state senator overseeing the ethics investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she dismissed the state’s public safety commissioner.

Democratic Sen. Hollis French was accused of manipulating the probe for political effect on national and state elections. Republican Rep. John Coghill last week asked the Alaska Legislature’s Legislative Council, the body that appointed French to oversee the investigation, to discuss replacing French.

Coghill said he believed the investigation was lacking in fairness, neutrality and due process after French was quoted in media reports that the probe’s results were going to be an “October surprise” that is “likely to be damaging to the administration.”

On Monday, Democratic Sen. Kim Elton, the head of the Legislative Council, turned down his request. French’s decisions to date have been appropriate, bipartisan and unchallenged, Elton wrote to Coghill. And the comments French made were “corrected in a very public way in the media,” Elton wrote.

The investigation is examining whether Palin abused her power by firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan has said he felt pressure from the Palin family and staff to dismiss a trooper, Mike Wooten, who went through a messy divorce from Palin’s sister.

Anchorage prosecutor Stephen Branchflower, who was hired to conduct the investigation and compile its findings, “will not discuss the status of his review with the media,” Elton said.

“I’m sure that all of us can work in a nonpartisan way to accomplish the charge given to the investigator by the Legislative Council,” Elton said.

Coghill told The Associated Press on Monday that he was disappointed that Elton seemed to miss the political nature of French’s statements and that he would appeal to the council chairman again.

“We all support somebody in this political race, but he took it right smack into this (investigation),” Coghill said of French. “I don’t want to stop the investigation, but I think Sen. French has made it very difficult to get an independent view.”

Elton did not immediately return calls to his office in Juneau.

8 09 2008
swineprincess

hey guys AKMuddy has posted more stuff on Anne Kilkenney…. Thanks Muddy

8 09 2008
jimstaro

tammy:

A link and a cut would be better for these, that way anyone who wants to pass it on can quickly read and do so, without putting a google on it first, Especially if coming from the AP who’s CEO is a Mac supporter.

8 09 2008
tammy

Lol, Biden just called McCain’s health coverage plan a bridge to nowhere.

8 09 2008
clancop

Wow, raving stupidity. I ain’t from Quebec, but I studied it extensively at the University of Ottawa. Guess you guys didn’t do your research AGAIN!

Next, NO, Iran had a good ol’ bloody revolution, not this “peace and love” crap you guys are willing to believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution
Ayatollah Khomeini stated that anywhere between 60,000 and 70,000 people were martyred during this revolution. Doesn’t sounds very “democratic” with so much blood spilled. Do the research, don’t just swallow Iran’s “new history”.

Next, John Kerry was a veteran, and I still don’t believe him. “Fake” veterans don’t impress me, heroes like John McCain do. My grandfather’s efforst in WWII I believe, not someone who parades around as an authority since he took one in the butt while running away. Anti-Americanism, no mtatter the source, isn’t acceptable in my eyes. Remember that…

8 09 2008
Diva

Tammy- (12:18:07) :

(Diva , in response to what the troll said on the women he dates, etc. in my experience if you have to put in the conversation “I have black friends but……..” you still have some racist tendencies.)

Notice Clancop didn’t say he had black friends, he only hinted he dated black women. Strange, no? He would have to relate to men as equals, and based on his odd comment I doubt he feels the same way about women. I’d bet he doesn’t have a very healthy opinion of either men OR women of color!

8 09 2008
HamletsMill

strangelet (12:12:41) :

drchill –

Secession may not be treason, but it is definitely not permitted for states, by well-established case law (cf Grant v Lee, 1865)

—————————————

BRILLIANT!

And also a person named Abraham Lincoln FOUNDED the Republican Party?

I wonder if the AIP had ever heard of him when they apparnetly infiltrated his political party?

I wonder.

8 09 2008
tammy

I didn’t get that from the AP. Got that from a logged in only site. So a link wouldn’t had done anyone any good.

8 09 2008
Army Mom

Proud2BUSA:

You wrote: “I heard at church yesterday (and this rung back to the 60’s) – that if we voted AGAINST McCain, we were voting AGAINST our sons and daughters in the service.”

Maybe this will help you with your fellow parishioners. My young Army officer son, who had been planning to vote for McCain, has now changed his mind and will be voting for Obama. His reasoning? He said when he was commissioned that he swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and he thinks John McCain is a threat to the Constitution and the personal rights guaranteed in it.

8 09 2008
Memphis, NY

I can’t keep up
Love this
BUT what can we do to get this out to the “uninformed voter”?
I had dinner the other night with a Hillary supporter
Asked her did you know this……
did you know this…….
did you know this……
No I’ll watch the debate
COME ON do you really think they are going to ask her
1. Bridge to nowhere
2. Porkrequest for 2009
3.was she pregnant when she eloped?
4. Does abstinence teaching work?
5. Do you think books should be banned
6 Do you know where Iraq is
7. Do you know what the vice president does
8. Creationism??? How did we get oil if the planet is only 6000 years old
9. Did you leave the city of wasilla 20 mil in debt
10. Why is there a question as to the ownership of the property the hocky rink was built on
11. Why are we killing the wolves if the caribou population is thrivIg (her words)

My friends answer was I didn’t know I only have dial up

HOW DO WE GET THE WORD OUT???

8 09 2008
Palin’s AIP affiliation rumours gain momentum « 51st State Blog

[…] sympathetic to the cause, is under increasing scrutiny online as more evidence emerges, including a newly uncovered video of AIP members talking of Sarah Palin as their candidate (in as many words) that “we were hoping would get […]

8 09 2008
Memphis, NY

Thanks to Palmade CA
I have been trying to figure out the pin since the convention

8 09 2008
Harley

I sent that video via mudflats to Olbermann……hey, I’m just sayin !

perhaps thousands of other followed suit

8 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Guys – need your help. Where is the documentation that shows Palin sliced 62% off the Special Education line item in the budget? I hope I’m not making that up from lack of sleep. thanks.

8 09 2008
Iran-Contra

Iran-Contra Scandal anyone? Let’s give the terrorists guns and money, fantastic idea.

I’m shocked that people would support a guy who wants to limit the GI Bill, and enact the draft. My father was in the military 22 years, and after he retired, he went on to get his BS, his Masters, and now he is working on his Doctorate.

Vets should be against McCain, not for him.

8 09 2008
bwilder

Sarah Palin Troopergate: Republicans Fail To Unseat Democrat Overseeing Investigation

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/sarah-palin-troopergate-r_n_124881.html

8 09 2008
clancop

HAHAHA Oh God, stupidity again. I didn’t say I dated black woman… I just said I wasn’t a racist and that you could tell because of my list of friends and the women I dated. There are more colours then black… Stupidity at its finest…. HAHAHAHA

8 09 2008
kat

This has GOT to get to the MSM!!! The hell with Gibson, it needs to get to CNN. MSNBC has no guts anymore after what they did to Chris and Keith today.

This MUST, MUST, MUST get out there! I don’t know how to do it, otherwise I would. Just think what would happen if this was about Obama………they would crucify him!

8 09 2008
clancop

P.S. Look for other sources other then the Huffington Post or Daily Kos, both known for their far-left slant. I grab my evidence from a variety of places, Hot Air, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, NewsBusters, CBC, CTV, BBC, The Globe and Mail, Wall Street Journal, Little Green Football, Flopping Aces, etc

Taking from only one source leaves you open to claims of bias, but I guess I am too late on that one. Seem most of you drank the “Obama Kool-Aid” already…

8 09 2008
sheesh

People,

One of the refreshing things about this blog and it’s participants is the general respect that we show each other. It’s a rarity with most blogs, liberal or conservative. I know it’s hard to respond without becoming defensive to those who visit us with opposing viewpoints and express them with a less than courteous introduction. Let’s not feed those Trolls with defensive name-calling. We aren’t going to change their minds. Resist the temptation!

8 09 2008
Diva

clancop (12:50:04) :

HAHAHA Oh God, stupidity again. I didn’t say I dated black woman… I just said I wasn’t a racist and that you could tell because of my list of friends and the women I dated. There are more colours then black… Stupidity at its finest…. HAHAHAHA

The Jokes on you, bub. Notice in both my posts I specifically said “women of color”.

You’re busted!

8 09 2008
clancop

No Diva, it is you who busted yourself…

Notice Clancop didn’t say he had black friends, he only hinted he dated black women. Strange, no? He would have to relate to men as equals, and based on his odd comment I doubt he feels the same way about women. I’d bet he doesn’t have a very healthy opinion of either men OR women of color!

8 09 2008
Harley

Do Not Feed The Trolls…..unless they differ respectfully, pretend they are not here. They will go away…they need to be fed after all.
If you feed them, they will come….and stay and stay and stay…just like stray cat.

8 09 2008
nancy-INDIANA

“One of the refreshing things about this blog and it’s participants is the general respect that we show each other. It’s a rarity with most blogs, liberal or conservative. I know it’s hard to respond without becoming defensive to those who visit us with opposing viewpoints and express them with a less than courteous introduction. Let’s not feed those Trolls with defensive name-calling. We aren’t going to change their minds. Resist the temptation!”

words of wisdom. i really appreciate when people bring facts to the blog, especially when they differ from what i believe to be true. but let’s not get sidetracked by the “static”

8 09 2008
Harley

And the winner is !!!!!!!
Chris Matthews !

He just tore a new one on one of the McSames campaign guru’s

I am so excited I forgot his darn name ! Please forgive me.

8 09 2008
Memphis, NY

How about we email all of our republican Senators, Congressmen, Governors etc and ask that they reach across the aisle and votE Obama

Why not McSame is gonna come after them just like Sarah did in Alaska
Buck the party protect yourself

8 09 2008
angryxer

DemsAreNotAfraid:
I see another link is up so we’re all going to be moving on to the next round, but in case you’re still reading here… Palin keeps harping on the Bridge to Nowhere because it was the poster child for pork spending– the lightning rod (to mix my metaphors) of ridiculous earmarks, famous across the country. But I canNOT believe she has the gall to keep bringing up an outright lie. ARRRRGGGGH! We have GOT to find ways to skewer the Republican bullshit. They have no compunction about looking you right in the eye and lying to your face.

What I wish would get brought up about McCain’s harping on earmarks is that not all earmarks are nasty, bad, corrupt practices. He was not welcome in Iowa after the floods, as I recall, because he’d voted against (help me out here, Midwesterners, so I get this accurate?) spending for levees or other flood control on along the Mississippi. In the same way, when California ran out of money this summer with the fires everywhere, I believe Dianne Feinstein was going the earmark route to get us emergency funds.

8 09 2008
mvngfwd

Hey Mudpals! First, the church vid has been played at least 5 times in the last 30 min on CNN, MSNBC et al. I have to mentioned something that is more important than Ms. Pitbull and her “ways”. Bottomline, they are using her as a shiny object to distract us from the real problem which is voter exclusion happening now in all states. I am listening to Nova M radio and they just mentioned that Virginia students are being given erroneous information about registering such as “they need to emancipate” before they can register, etc. They are scrubbing the voter registrations of, surprise!, likely Obama voters. The real mission here is for all of us that belief in our Constitutional Right to Vote, must demand the integrity of the vote. Whether you are Dem, Rep, Indep, or other if you really believe in your candidate then let the real vote speak for itself. PUSH PAPER BALLOTS!!!! Be a poll watcher! Come on people, do you really think Rove didn’t even Google her? Of course he did, and realized he could get the best of both worlds, energize the religious base, get the numbers close, and then steal the election (AGAIN!!!!) because we all were looking too hard at the dysfunctional mess with glasses. I am just as guilty given that I have been literally living off this site since the announcement. We must do everything in our power to ensure the integrity of this election and all to come in the future. And I put a challenge out to all M/P fans to put up or shut up if they really believe in their candidate. This is our country, good, bad or indifferent and many families have sacrificed greatly on behalf of our Constitution and the belief in our Bill of Rights. Let’s not become the joke of the world promoting “Democracy” when we cannot even guarantee it in our own voting booths. Proudly an Obamacrat/Obamacan American family!

8 09 2008
syt

Thanks, jimstaro. I wrote that comment before your comments had appeared. I hope you get a chance to see this a few hundred comments down, and I’m glad more people are speaking out on this!

8 09 2008
BlogLogic—Rumors of Sarah Palin’s Affiliation with the Alaska Independence Party « Doug Geivett’s Blog

[…] host goes by the handle “AKMuckraker.” Today she published a post titled “Palin – Republican Party Infiltrator? Damning Video.” With a title like that, you hardly need to read further to know what’s up: There’s a […]

8 09 2008
GiGi

Clancop

Bush can be blamed for this war,he lied to get us in, a war McCain supported which has tripled the deficit and we continue to spend every single second..over 500 Trillion dollars so far and climbing.

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

8 09 2008
mvngfwd

Opps! Sorry about the typos (believe versus belief)…I guess the passion over runs the brain sometimes. Regardless, the message is the same;)

8 09 2008
chloe

oh hell . .my comments must be spam.

8 09 2008
KTN

Cambell Brwon is on CNN RIGHT NOW talking about her church and their “beliefs”

holy crap .

8 09 2008
KTN

sorry for the typos , i was a little excited .

🙂

8 09 2008
Stacie B

I saw one other mention of this and no comments about it’s validity. If this is true, then we need to focus on things that will undermine Palin as a canidate rather then on something she and the AIP are denying. If this is a cover-up on part of the AIP then we need the truth…if no one is in the position to get that proof, then we need to move on.

The party’s chair originally told reporters that Palin had been a member, but the official later retracted that statement. Chairwoman Lynette Clark told the New York Times that false information had been given to her by another member of the party after she first told the Times and others that Palin joined the AIP in 1994. Clark issued an apology on the AIP Web site.

The director of Alaska’s Division of Elections, Gail Fenumiai, confirms that Palin registered to vote in the state for the first time in May 1982 as a Republican and hasn’t changed her party affiliation since. She also told FactCheck.org that Palin’s husband, Todd, was registered with AIP from October 1995 to July 2000, and again from September 2000 until July 2002. (He has since been registered as undeclared.) However, the AIP says Todd Palin “never participated in any party activities aside from attending a convention in Wasilla at one time.”

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157986/page/2

8 09 2008
Sarah P

aw heck, they took that video dow. That’s alright, the world is gonna end tomorrow maybe cuz of some guy who believes in science… better find refuge in Alaska hey!

http://faqnews.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/skeptics-fear-particle-accelerator-will-lead-to-the-earths-demise-no-shit-says-hawking/

8 09 2008
Bruce

Sarah Palin: The lunatic fringe who infiltrated the lunatic GOP.

8 09 2008
Video YES---Palin Was a member of AIP - PoliticalGroove Forums

[…] Was a member of AIP Palin – Republican Party Infiltrator? Damning Video. 8 09 2008 Whoa, Nellie! You may need to be sitting down for this one. Check out this video from a […]

8 09 2008
Sandia Blanca

Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Alaskan Independence Party?

8 09 2008
Sarah Palin was a Member of Alaskan Secessionist Group « Damn That Ojeda!

[…] Listen further and he’ll explain how he favors AIP members infiltrating other parties in order to get their agenda through.  Once again, Mudflats has it all blogged. Read it. […]

9 09 2008
david powers

Until the 10th amendment is repealed secession is an option for any state.

I know that didn’t sit well with the “American Hero”, Abe Lincoln. He bypassed it and 650,000 people died because of it.

Unless you are one of the mental midgets who think that war was fought over slavery.

9 09 2008
Frank R

If you do your research, I how can you back McCain/Palin? More of the same, except Palin would really ruin America, maybe even more so than Bush.

Top 10 Reasons Why Palin is Unfit to Lead Our Nation

9 09 2008
beltwaysnark

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

I’m sorry to let facts get in the way of your feelings!!!

9 09 2008
alice

I think that the most interesting ( and hopefully most damaging) aspect to the AIP story is that it cast Palins so called maverack acts in a new light. It is obvious that all of her actions as a governor…including fighting crocked republicians and big oil…have been motivated by this fringe party.

9 09 2008
Search the Web on Snap.com

Stacie,

She is not a registered member because she an infiltrator. Techinically she did not lie to the press…however she did lie when she joined the reblican party. This woman has one true agenda…theocracy

9 09 2008
Palin: Republican Party Infiltrator? (Video) « Suzie-Q

[…] Palin – Republican Party Infiltrator? Damning Video […]

9 09 2008
check FactCheck

“FactCheck.org is part of Annenberg Foundation, founded by Republican media owner Walter Annenberg (Ambassador to Britain under Nixon).”

9 09 2008
secessionist sarah… « drink me

[…] Supposedly there is video evidence, though it may not be any more damning than the level of involvement Obama […]

9 09 2008
bluevillage

9/8/08: “McCain Camp Changes AKIP Website to Cover up For Palin”:

http://newsone.com/elections/article/mccain-camp-changes-akip-website-to-cover-up-for-palin

11 09 2008
Mudflats on Sarah Palin & The Donnie Darko Connection « West Coast Grrlie Blather

[…] “gets along to go along” when she joins the Republican party:  Palin — Republican Party Infiltrator? The salient part of this video from a meeting of the Alaska Independence Party begins at […]

18 09 2008
Richard Rhodes

You blog strikes out immediately. All anyone paying attention has to do is look a your blog roll that mentions Huffington, daily kos, and crooks and liars to know that all you are is another vicious left wing attack group. So anyone coming to this site and thinks they are going to see anything true at all is living in fairy land.

18 09 2008
Richard Rhodes

Your blog strikes out immediately. All anyone paying attention has to do is look a your blog roll that mentions Huffington, daily kos, and crooks and liars to know that all you are is another vicious left wing attack group. So anyone coming to this site and thinks they are going to see anything true at all is living in fairy land.

21 09 2008
Pro and con Palin « Audible Smirk

[…] https://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/palin-republican-party-infiltrator-damning-video/ Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Tanning Beds and MelanomasThe Politics of Palin […]

9 10 2008
Sarah Palin damning video showing membership in AIP. - The Daily Shocker

[…] out this post at the Alaska Blog Mudflats. It’s got the full video as used in the JedReport video we linked earlier that has the Vice […]

19 10 2008
WT

Did McCain threaten legal action that got CNN to remove the story? Rick Sanchez was covering Palin and the AIP, but then it disappeared. See this page on the apparent legal threats from McCain:
http://snurl.com/mccaincnn

20 10 2008
the food handler

i think that true republicans are independents are heart because they dont want the large government ruling every part of our lives telling us what to do all the time, thats what she wants and so do i

1 11 2008
m e brooks

In the fly over States, we cherish our freedom. We do not need the socialists to run our lives. We are not going to allow it. Unless Barry assumes the position of Dictator, he will have a 4 year term (remember Carter). The DNC will run congress for 2 years. Remember Clinton and ’94. The Republicans will re-learn what it is to love freedom, fiscal responsibility, and true conservatism. The “moderates” will be purged out with no where to go.

Barry is doing the RNC a favor. He will allow them to find their soul again. It was lost by those who voted for Bush 1 and 2.

I have left the RNC and will not vote for them again. They have behaved as Democrats and the Democrats like socialist. I will find a party that demands Independence in Georgia from the Federal Government. We do not need the Fed. Life will be better without it.




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