Live Blogging the RNC…

4 09 2008

OK.  Cracking knuckles, shaking out arms, bouncing on balls of feet.  Breathing in through the nose….out through the mouth.

I’m goin’ in…

Oh…it’s Cindy.  John showers her with unconditional love and support.  You can trust him. (Trust her).  And heeeere’s Sarah!  She’s wearing some kind of low cut silky thing under her blazer.  What’s with that? Moose hunting pistol packing mother of 5…. here we go again.

Invocation of Ronald Reagan.  Her father’s plane was shot down, but he was quiet about that and never talks about it for self gain.  Just like her husband John….  HUH?  She actually just said he doesn’t talk about it.  Wonder how many times we’ll hear him talk about it. (smacks head)

Intro of her kids in the military.  More handmade premade signs they handed out to people.

She keeps talking about her father.  Hard scrabble roots. American Dream.  Becoming a mother….something changed in her.    OK, I’m going to go check my dinner.

Back.  Orphans.  Clearing debris of war.  Rwanda.  Somebody she met in somewhere in Africa.  She’s there in the audience.

Talking about importance of national leadership. (Her emphasis).  (Sarah?)

John speaks the truth always no matter what the cost.  (Pepto Bismol.  Still on the desk from last night.  Ahhhhh.)  Chants of John – Ma – Cain.  Telepromter issues.  She’s done.  Man…how does she walk in those shoes??

Endless recording of Johnny B. Goode.  Bathroom break.

Back.  Lots of audience shots.  There’s Bristol with baby.  Lots of cowboy hats and red white & blue.  The ginormous flag is back.  Kool & the Gang.  Now Sarah has the baby.  A Dems for McCain sign.  I’m glad I know they hand them out at the door.  Red inflatable pig?  What is that?  Pork?  Can’t be.  Maybe at an Alaskan convention, though. 

Someone held up a Palin Power sign and did a fist pump, and the sign fell on his head.   Oh God.  It’s a Drill Baby Drill sign someone wrote with a sharpie on a flattened cardboard box.  This is surreal.  I may not make it.

John McCain slideshow!  P.O.W…..less than 10 seconds in. “Some call him names that can’t be repeated?”  Huh?  His mother just called him a “Mama’s boy.”  I’m confused.

Father ordered carpet bombing of Hanoi while his son was imprisoned there, because for the McCains it was always country first.  Airplanes.  Fires.  134 men burned to death.  Wounds not addressed. Torture, filthy prison, violently ill, survived because of faith.  I don’t like this.  Dinner check.

5 1/2 years of torture could have left him bitter and broken, but he came back to the U.S. with a smile on his face! Sheesh.

Do anything to keep taxes low.  Abhors waste. Outspoken. Honest (there they go again!)  Larger cause. Love for America. Country first.

What a life. What faith. What a family. What good fortune we will choose this leader at this time.  Trumpets.  Second picture of African American family in the slideshow.

Back to the tiny dank cell.  When you’ve lived in a box, the world becomes clear. When you’ve lived in a box….When you’ve lived in a box (repeat)….Country first.

And here he is.   Yellow tie?  U-S-A U-S-A, etc.  Green background?  I thought they weren’t going to do that any more.  Oh, it’s green grass in a slide of a giant stately home.  Wha….  Is it one of his??

AAA!  Someone held up a McCain Votes Against Vets sign!!!!  They must have smuggled it in.  Holy cow.  And another guy in a Vets Against the War t-shirt giving the double peace signs!!!  Man…

Cindy is his inspiration. (but Sarah is his soulmate?)  They’ve got to change that slide.  It’s like the green screen challenge on the Colbert Report where people send in submissions to make him interesting.

No substance yet.  Thank you for your consideration to the undecided voters.  A word to Obama supporters.  A lone boo.  You have my respect and admiration.  8 people clapping.  We are fellow Americans.  That means more to me than anything else.  Applause.

“My friends”.  Everybody drink!

Now it’s a bright blue slide that is scorching my retinas.  What IS that??

CODE PINK IS IN THE HOUSE!!  She’s getting hauled off to shouts of USA USA.  “My friends, please don’t be diverted by the ground noise and the static….heh heh heh.”

Another code pink!  Unbelievable.  More chants of USA.  They didn’t show her this time, though.  Man.  McCain looked ticked off at that one.  His face changed color.

More Sarah Palin.  Executive experience. Cut taxes, energy issues, across the aisle.  Worked with her hands. Small business.  Worried about cost of gas and groceries.  I can’t wait until I introduce her to Washington…hehehehe.  Grimace of death.  To the ‘me first, country second crowd – “Change is Coming!”  Applause.

Keeping promises. Strenghth. Backbone. Maverick. Marches to the beat of his own drum…..  Come on, where’s another code pink?

Oh, the blue is sky with a flagpole.  It’s agonizing.

Pork barrel projects will be vetoed when they come across his desk and we will know their names x 2.  I fought union bosses.  Cheers.  I fought trial lawyers.  Fought for more troops when it wasn’t popular. Wild applause.  USA USA USA.  “I’d rather lose an election than see my country lose a war.” Standing ovation.

I fight for this and that.  People who coach little league, teachers, son with autism.  These people matter to him.  I fight for (fill in family name).  Honor the sacrifice of soldiers by keeping country safe.

The man is no orator. I keep thinking of Obama’s speech.  What time is is?  Obama passed corporate welfare bill for oil companies?  I think that’s what he said.

We’re all God’s children and we’re all Americans.  We believe in low taxes, open markets, risk takers, letting people keep the fruits of their labor, strong defense, culture of life, judges who don’t legislate from the bench (unless they’re on our side).  Values of family, neighborhoods and communities.  Government that doesn’t make your choices for you, let’s you make them for yourself (unless it has to do with reproductive rights).

Opponent will raise taxes, raise government spending, will eliminate jobs, will put a  beaurocrat stands between you and your doctor.  Lots of boos.  What time is it?

Teleprompter problem.  Opponent wants to wish away global economy.  More teleprompter problems.  I bet people have tuned out because of the blue background eye torture alone.  Did I say torture?

Need to empower parents with choice about schools. (Just not in family planning).  Get rid of bad teachers.  Standing ovation.  BIG teleprompter problem.  This is ugly.

Obama wants unions and beurocrats in school.  Teleprompter problem.  Stop sending money to foreign countries who don’t like us very much. (What about the foreign countries sending US money that don’t like us very much?)  Drill now!  Drill now!  “Drill Baby Drill” with a shot of “Environmentalists for McCain”.

My friends!  Drink!

He just said “electric auto-mobiles”. (They call them ‘cars’ now)

Ooo.  Wide camera shot with lots of empty seats.

Al Qaeda will strike us again.  Iran is the chief state sponsor of terrorism. On their way to nuclear weapons.  Russia invaded small neighbor to gain control of the world’s oil supply. (Who would do such a thing?!)

I know how the world works.  I know the good and evil in it. I know the leaders, and how to stand up to them.  I know how to secure the peace. (with war?)  He remembers when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

Change change change.  Change.  My friends!

I have the scars to prove it (touching chest).  Senator Obama does not.  Transparency, accountability, get things done.  Doesn’t care who gets the credit.

Never a day he hasn’t thanked God for his fortune.  Blessed with misfortune. Gulf of Tonkin.  Here’s the conversion story.  Used to think of himself, crashed into a lake, broken limbs, angry crowd.  Dark cell. Left to die.  Teleprompter problems. Down to 100 pounds. Changed cells. Couldn’t feed himself.  Learned about selfishness. Cellmates saved his life. Solitary confinement. Teleprompter problems. Stayed in prison to let other guys go. Standing ovation.  Guards worked him over. Broke him. Hurt and ashamed. Tapping on wall.  Get back up and fight again for his country. Standing ovation.  Fell in love with his country. “I wasn’t my own man any more. I was my country’s”

I’m not running because I think I’m blessed and because I’m annointed to save country in hour of need (with snark)….ARGH!

My friends!  Call to service – join the army, become a minister, teacher, volunteer, serve a cause greater than self. (Become a community organizer, perhaps?)

Stand up and fight. Fight for America. Fight for Freedom.  We never quit. We never give up. Fight with me! Fight with me! Fight! Fight! Fight! Stand up and fight!

God Bless America.


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4 09 2008
Miemaw from Texas

thank you for suffering through this, so I don’t have to.

4 09 2008
Glenn2008

“reform minded, moose shoothing, pistol shooting, mother of five, hockey mum”

Fantastic resume.

4 09 2008
Bethany

I just donated $25 to Obama….

but I can’t bring myself to watch….

I’ll just be checking back here for updates

4 09 2008
Cathy

Mrs Palin is showing an awful lot of boob tonight. Someone should teach her how to dress. Maybe Cindy?????

4 09 2008
Snoskred

She’s a terrible speaker. This could be your first dudette, people!

There’s still time to place your bets for “my friends” and POW mentions..

http://www.sephyroth.net/2008/09/my-friends-i-would-like-to-propose-a-wager/

Oh and by the way – keep donating! I’m in Australia and seriously considering sending some monies myself.. Palin annoyed me that much with her snark.

“Obama scores $8 million since Palin’s speech from over 130,000 donors – on pace to hit $10 million by the time John McCain hits stage, campaign says.”

4 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

I can’t do it…rewinding my DVR to watch the Obama Acceptance Speech!

4 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

I must mute Cindy!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

MIz Cindy asked the question: “What would our Forefathers think of us?”

Let’s say it together, so maybe the old botoxed geezers will hear: JOHN MCCAIN VOTED WITH GEORGE W 90% OF THE TIME.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

i THINK MIZ CINDY NEEDS TO COME TO THE WILD WOODS OF THE APPALACHIAS – you don’t have to go far.

Bridget looks like she wants to hurt her mamma, Miz Cindy.

4 09 2008
Cathy

My tv is muted too. At least Cindy doesn’t sneer like Palin did. But she needs to comb her hair.

4 09 2008
PJ

You guys missed the awful 9/11 “tribute” video. It was so bad Keith O started crying ane he apologized for the network having aired it.

4 09 2008
Cindy

Actually loling about “John has his hands on the wheel but it’s good to have a female hand on there too.” I’m picturing a 150 million car pileup from the McCain Palin car driving powerstruggle.

4 09 2008
Batavia, IL

Love you site – and have been glued to it since Mrs. Palin was brought down from the great white north.

Not tuning into the convention tonight – don’t want to skew the rating – so I’ll be counting on your eyes to watch and report! tey won’t get close to the 40 million + that watch Mr Obama last week!!

Keep up the great work!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

omg – these people will stop at nothing. so, now, we have to talk about Bridget’s cleft palate and how cindy solved that. . . wow. . . . ugh. . . poor child, you just know she can’t wait to cast her vote for Obama.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Friend —

Why would the Republicans spend a whole night of their convention attacking ordinary people?

With the nation watching, the Republicans mocked, dismissed, and actually laughed out loud at Americans who engage in community service and organizing.

Our convention was different. We gave the stage to everyday Americans who hunger for change and stepped up to make phone calls, knock on doors, and raise money in small amounts in their communities.

You may have missed it, but we also showed the country a video with the faces and voices of those organizers, volunteers, and donors from every corner of the country.

Watch the video and make a donation of $5 or more now to show that in this election, ordinary people will make their voices heard.

https://donate.barackobama.com/changevideo

What you didn’t hear from the Republicans at their convention is a single new idea about how to make the healthcare system work, get our economy moving for the middle class, or improve education.

Just attacks — on me, and on you.

But what the McCain attack squad doesn’t understand is that people like you — who devote part of their busy lives to organizing and building their communities — have the power to change this country.

With your help, that’s exactly what we’re going to do.

Thank you,

Barack

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

Georgia…Rwanda…Cindy and Mother Teresa (that story’s been changed on their website, right?)..leading by example – folks should take a good, close look at John McCain – didn’t he desert his FIRST FAMILY? There are a few facts left out of this bio.

4 09 2008
tad

this is touture…cindy’s false sincerty hurts…..

4 09 2008
Alaskan Woman

I read that Cindy has $300,000 worth of jewelry and clothing on tonight! Isn’t that special!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

okay – I am punch drunk and I promise tomorrow I will have more class, but WHAT IS IT WITH THESE REPUBLICAN WOMEN’S HAIR and harlem looks?

Cindy has hair that Hugh Hefner would love, and Sarah had on some silky camisole thing…if this is executive, then I obviously have been in the wrong industry.

4 09 2008
Anne

I can’t watch this. As a thank you for you doing it on our behalf, I will make a donation to the Obama campaign. Thanks a million.

4 09 2008
Ennealogic

I’m watching the RNC debacle. Frankly, I don’t care if it skews their numbers. They are already practiced in skewing numbers… from polls, to election day results, to exit polls. They are going to report whatever suits them best, no matter.

Forgive me for being cynical, but Ralph Reed, Tom DeLay, Ted Stevens, Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman, George Bush the younger, Karl Rove, and the rest of the neocon crew have taught me well. Politics has nothing to do with issues, only with perceptions about who is cool and who is not.

I truly hope Obama has taken this into consideration in his strategy.

4 09 2008
Darcy

Snoskred:

Are you Australian, or are you just IN Australia? I ask because only US citizens/ legal residents can donate legally. I’m not denigrating Australia. I’m sort considering emigrating, if this does not turn out the way we all hope😉 Especially since the Bush-enabler John Howard was kicked out.

4 09 2008
cecilia

You are braver than I am. I cannot bear to watch.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

This is the LEAST DIVERSE crowd I have seen since I was a kid…and I am old and White! These folks do not represent our country. I have to go donate to Obama again!

4 09 2008
Michigander

Cindy was agonizing to watch. I wonder how many times we will “my friends.”

4 09 2008
pupule

Wow! INSPIRING! 😦

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Let’s compare:

Barack had 70,000 people to hear his acceptance speech. They have a half-filled convention center, and they are all white, with the exception of poor Bridget whose “mother” called out her cleft palate and considered that her “goodwill” to the people. What is it with these women? They parade their children around like they are props and shall I say it, Barbie dolls. Poor girls – they need to meet our beloved HILLARY!!!😉 🙂

4 09 2008
Parker CA

So after the despicable 9.11 video, McSlime has the audacity to actually come out and accept the nomination at 9:11[m CT. Unbelievable.

4 09 2008
Stacie B

She’s holding the baby, she’s holding the baby!!!

4 09 2008
dmk_Wisconsin

Boy is Cindy a sleeper! To pass the time, I have been searching the internet for Anne Kilkenny. There is a site that is trying to discredit her (even calling her a fake, and then retracting, I think).

Here is the link:

http://fairlyconservative.com/the-race-for-president/anne-kilkenny-are-we-witnessing-the-birth-of-an-urban-legend/

Maybe we could leave her a post and tell her what we think.

4 09 2008
Gina

Hello again all,

Looking forward to your comments to help me through another painful evening.

4 09 2008
Thencamebronson

Can’t watch McPOW. I’ll get everything I need to know right here. Just sent off donation to Obama. Here’s hoping the republican convention turns out to be the biggest Democratic fund raiser ever.

Hang in there.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Thank you all so much for being here. You bring humor and sanity to an otherwise surreal experience. Whoever coined Caribou Barbie, I adore you!!! It has been the hit of the night – I had friends over tonight and they all LOVED the moniker. Thank you, thank you, thank you – after that, we did get serious if we wanted more of the same or CHANGE:

JOHN MCCAIN VOTED WITH GEORGE BUSH 90% OF THE TIME.

4 09 2008
Matthew Rettenmund

For anyone wanting to read the entire Us or National Enquirer pieces, I have them here. (Site is not really safe for work in that it has some suggestive images.) Note that the Us piece is a laundry list of all the negative stories about Palin, delivered quite firmly (by a Republican writer) and the National Enquirer piece is very soft. It mentions that the affair has been alleged, but no juice. As a monitor of the ‘bloids, I would say this is their warning shot, and they will undoubtedly drip-drip-drip much more in the next few issues. They tend to leak juicy on Mondays from what they print on Wednesdays (those issues are easy to get in NYC Wednesdays, but sometimes take till Friday elsewhere).

4 09 2008
Reality Check

The real reason Cindy McCain bored us with a 20 minute bedtime story: They are waiting for the NFL football game to end to try and draw in more viewers, since nobody will be watching McCain tonight, how many more times do they want to hear about his stay at the Hilton (was Paris there?)

4 09 2008
magnanimouse

I kept expecting her to say “for just 12 cents a day you can feed a child in Africa”… the resemblance to Sally Struthers is scary- large vacant eyes, mouth moving but only vapors…

4 09 2008
chunkalove

Olbermann’s response to the gory 9/11″Tribute” shown by the GOP tonight- way to go Keith.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

This guy is actually going to try to speak for 53 minutes? This is nauseating to even think about.

I can’t believe the delegates from AK are wearing those construction vests and hard-hats with “Drill Here” “Drill Now” on the sides. And they claim that the caribou love the oil wells. Assholes!

Get ready, here comes the video. POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW!

4 09 2008
fawnskin

ok, i have my cnn on…watching the proceedings with sound muted and have stopped the tivo on a pic of bristol holding lil trig.
my instincts tell me that the look she is giving him as he rests on her chest is that of a mother…not a sister.
i wish i could capture this. does anyone know how?
btw…it makes me very sad

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I just saw an Hispanic! There IS SOME DIVERSITY here😉

4 09 2008
VA

Love your blog just what we need and right on time!!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Well, I checked the spot again and all those McCain signs at the edge of town have completely disappeared— just a couple for local races left. And this is a swing state where McCain used to be very popular and which revived his campaign last winter.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

here we go again: WAR, WAR, WAR, WAR, WAR, WAR, WAR.

HAVE YOU HEARD THAT JOHN MCCAIN VOTED WITH GEORGE W. BUSH 90% OF THE TIME?

4 09 2008
whabs

See the guy with the upside down Peace sign?
Sad

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

For the truth about Cindy’s father, Google Kemper Marley, Jim Hensley and you’ll be absolutely stunned at what comes up. What Cindy “forgot” to say about her father is that he served two stints in jail covering up for his mob-connected boss Kemper Marley and his reward was the exclusive Budweiser distributorship for the state of Arizona.

Hey, they just said that McCain was once a POW during the Viet Nam War! How come we haven’t heard about that before tonight?

4 09 2008
Jay

To have shown that 9/11 video was absolutely heartless. How do these people sleep at night, and subsequently look themselves in the mirror the next morning. Disgusting.

4 09 2008
PalinGate

Woohoo!! 15 views! If any of you have suggestions on how I can improve the video, let me know!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkhtMY2io4

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

While I’m listening and blogging, I am cruising the Vietnam Veterans Against McCain site

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Headlines are saying McCain is supposed to promise to “end the rancor” of the campaign.

4 09 2008
pupule

Good to see some of the regulars are with us tonight!
Comforting!😉

4 09 2008
vmacandcheese

Made myself a big margarita to take it all in, expecting to sip on it delicately throughout the duration of this charade. Margarita is 3/4 of the way gone…

“he’s not in it for the glory, not to please ANY political party…” [cue string section in orchestra]

chug chug chug

4 09 2008
Parker CA

POW POW POW POW POW

4 09 2008
vmacandcheese

“found his strength in a tiny, dank cell….”

oh. my. god.

4 09 2008
whabs

barf barf barf!!!! this film is… His record with vets…I am aghast

4 09 2008
jojin

ohhhhh god this is the most bb-b-borring video I have ever seen HERREEES JOHNNNNYY!!

4 09 2008
mde

fawnskin (18:05:15) :

Use a digital camera.

4 09 2008
DS

Factoid: McCain can’t lift his arms above his shoulders because of the POW injuries. He needs help dressing himself.

4 09 2008
willpen

Muckraker…. you deserve a medal of honor for putting up with this for the sake of the cause. You sir….. are a better man than I…..;

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

You’re darn tootin’ I “put my country first.” That’s why it’s time for a REAL CHANGE.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

“Change will come from strength” – yeah right, that and money – I’m making another donation to Barack! I don’t want to “live in a box” of fear and warmongering any longer!

4 09 2008
jojin

he looks like a stuffed chipmunk and walks like he poopooed in his pants

4 09 2008
Reality Check

So I see they must have found some images of black people on google.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Have they shown any views of the hall? I just got the video on.

And what is the deal with Cindy McCain’s hair??

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Wow, 52 more minutes of this crap??

4 09 2008
Merle

“I will follow Osama bin Laden to the Gates of Hell, and then I’ll make him dress up in a Bullwinkle costume. Nobody messes with Sarah Palin.”

4 09 2008
Groundhogday

Sorry if this was posted previously. Saracuda apparently passed through 6 institutions in 6 years to get her journalism BA.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hjGaAjQoUCE3VQ4N3M852LEdOVtwD9307GG00

Hmmm… now I wonder why the McCain campaign isn’t letting her conduct interviews, ever. Perhaps she isn’t quite such a quick study on national and international policy? From last night’s speech, it doesn’t seem that they even trusted her to read from the teleprompter on domestic or foreign policy.

4 09 2008
Snoskred

I have a friend who lives in the US that can probably help me out if the urge to donate becomes too great.🙂

Wow, that’s a pretty tie McCain. The comb-over is looking a bit thin though.. Now he’s just randomly thankyouing..

4 09 2008
Pamela Picard

I knew a lot of Viet Nam Vets living in boxes on the streets of Chicago. Does this qualify them to be President?

4 09 2008
swineprincess

I’m streaming it from MSNBC just so I can do this and not see that — ya know? I can still hear it but… like my TV the computer’s got a mute button — and then there was blissful silence! Hey did ya hear? Johnboy was a POW…

4 09 2008
Gina

Ooooh, I like the color if Cindy’s suit. Maybe I’ll vote for him after all…

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

I think it was only five institutions in six years.

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

Jay – the GOP doesn’t give damn about ethics, morals, common decency, etc when it comes to winning an election; they just win them. And guess what, if the Democrats don’t develop a somewhat similar apporach this time around, we’re going to see McCain and Palin in the White House come January.

4 09 2008
Bea

Someone hit up Johnny B. Pander with the self-tanner. He is ORANGE! Geez.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

How come you can’t see the back of the hall?

4 09 2008
daschund LA

There’s a comment on a website from someone who’s known Palin since 72 (this is different from the much circulated letter). This guy is horrified and scared of what would happen if she takes office. He sheds some new nuances…

http://www.100differentthings.com/2008/09/03/longtime-sarah-palin-friend-sets-record-straight/#comment-3473

4 09 2008
whabs

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! McCain votes against vets!!!!!!

4 09 2008
magnanimouse

Wow he has a lot of makeup on (botox?) He looks more plasticky than Cindy.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Is it me, or are the key women dressing really horribly? What ever happened to Nancy Reagan’s taste?

4 09 2008
Parker CA

NICE. Someone got it with that sign.

“You can’t win an occupation.”

4 09 2008
Gina

Did you see that sign? McCain votes against vets!

4 09 2008
raingods

I don’t think I have enough alcohol to endure this

4 09 2008
DS

I see a neon green background behind his bright white head.

4 09 2008
How Insane Is John McCain

WTF is in the background???

4 09 2008
darina

I’m sorry did he said leadings us in, or leading us into?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

OMG they ARE using that horrible green background!

4 09 2008
nunya

Hey, they actually showed the” McCain votes against vets” sign n my teevee 🙂

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

THIS IS an interesting read if you can’t stand that lime green background with Botoxed Pops:

How war hero John McCain betrayed the Vietnamese peasant who saved his life
Last updated at 01:10 23 March 2008

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In all the tales of wartime courage peppering John McCain’s presidential campaign trail, perhaps the most outstanding example of selfless heroism involves not the candidate but a humble Vietnamese peasant.

On October 26, 1967, Mai Van On ran from the safety of a bomb shelter at the height of an air raid and swam out into the lake where Lieutenant Commander McCain was drowning, tangled in his parachute cord after ejecting when his Skyhawk bomber was hit by a missile.

In an extraordinary act of compassion at a time when Vietnamese citizens were being killed by US aerial bombardments, he pulled a barely conscious McCain to the lake surface and, with the help of a neighbour, dragged him towards the shore.

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Reunited: Senator McCain and his Vietnamese rescuer Mai Van On in Hanoi in 1996

And when a furious mob at the water’s edge began to beat and stab the captured pilot, Mr On drove them back.

Nearly three decades later, a Vietnamese government commission confirmed he was indeed the rescuer and, in a 1996 meeting in Hanoi, McCain embraced and thanked Mr On and presented him with a Senate memento.

From that brief encounter to his death at the age of 88 two years ago, Mr On never heard from the senator again, and three years after their meeting, McCain published an autobiography that makes no mention of his apparent debt to Mr On.

It is a snub Mr On took to his death.

His widow, Bui Thi Lien, 71, said: ?In his last years, my husband was very sad sometimes.

He would say, ‘Mr McCain has forgotten me.’

?Mr McCain would be dead if it weren’t for my husband. He would never have returned to his family and he wouldn’t be in the presidential race today.?

Last week on a visit to Britain to meet Gordon Brown, McCain paid tribute to the role played by British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan – comments that carried extra weight in the light of McCain’s own wartime exploits.

In his 1999 autobiography, Faith Of My Fathers, which laid the ground for his first, unsuccessful run for president in 2000, McCain wrote a Boy’s Own-style narrative of his rescue: ?When I came to, I was being hauled ashore on two bamboo poles.

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To the rescue: John McCain, lying on his back across a bamboo log, is saved by villagers – including Mai Van On – after his jet was shot down in 1967

?A crowd of several hundred Vietnamese gathered around me as I lay dazed before them, shouting wildly at me, stripping my clothes off, spitting on me, kicking and striking me repeatedly.?

What followed, according to McCain, was five-and-a-half years of torture and brutal beatings as a prisoner of war – an account that has given a steely edge to his candidacy by establishing him as a true American war hero.

But the story is at odds with the version uncovered by Vietnam veteran Chuck Searcy, who lives in Hanoi and is in charge of the Vietnam Veteran Memorial Fund.

?In 1995, Mr On gave me a letter he wanted me to deliver to McCain,? said Searcy.

?’It said, ‘I am the guy who pulled you out of the lake and I have followed your progress over the years. I wish the best for you and your family and I hope some day you will be president of the United States.’

?I thought it was endearing. I sent the letter to McCain’s office and I got back a sniffy response from some assistant saying, ‘Mr McCain isn’t interested in these fanciful stories.’?

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Indeed, claiming to have saved McCain had by then become something of a cottage industry in Hanoi.

Searcy, 63, recalled: ?There had been a lot of preposterous claims, but I asked the neighbours around the lake if it was true and they said that was exactly how it happened.?

The story was also confirmed by the Vietnamese government.

Later in 1995, Searcy met McCain at a veterans’ reunion in Washington.

He said: ?I mentioned the story of Mr On to him, and told him it was true. He said, ‘Hell, I would like to meet this guy – I’ll set it up.’?

McCain, then a senator closely involved in rebuilding US-Vietnam relations, visited Hanoi in 1996, and a meeting was arranged with Searcy and Mr On.

Searcy said: ?Mr On was a wiry little guy. He looked as if he had only ever shaved once or twice and he had his old uniform on.

?He raced up to McCain and kept repeating his name as he embraced him.?

Then, through an interpreter, Mr On recounted the events of that day as McCain listened.

?He launched into a very emotional description,? said Searcy.

?Suddenly they saw this parachute coming down into their small lake.

?Everybody was afraid because they knew it was an American pilot and they didn’t know what to do.

?He said he just instinctively grabbed this big bamboo log and threw it into the water and jumped in after it.

?One of his neighbours joined him and the two of them swam out to the parachute.

?Apparently McCain had broken both arms and one leg, and had sunk to the bottom, but they pulled him out of the lake.

?When they got to the bank, a couple of men attacked McCain, breaking his shoulder with a rifle butt and stabbing his leg, before Mr On stopped them.

?That day, he saved McCain from drowning and then from maybe being killed by the mob.

?McCain listened but there was no dramatic response. He just nodded, said, ‘Thank you very much,’ and gave Mr On a little Senate seal.

?It was the kind of thing you buy in the souvenir shop in the Senate basement.

?But Mr On, to the day he died, treated it as if it were a Congressional Medal of Honour.?

But although McCain appeared to believe the story, it was one he would later seem to ignore in his autobiography and there was no more contact between the two men.

When Mr On died in 2006, an email was apparently sent to McCain’s office requesting a message of condolence for the family. There was no response.

Whether or not McCain believed Mr On is unclear.

But his refusal to acknowledge his heroism is likely to fuel other, more damaging allegations that McCain exaggerated elements of his PoW ordeal in Hoa Lo prison.

Phung Van Chung, 70, who was a Communist Party official at the time, claims McCain was quickly singled out for softer treatment, adding: ?I found out he was the son of an American admiral, so the top people wanted to keep him as a live witness so they could use him for negotiations.?

Mr On’s son-in-law, Nguyen Ngoc Toan, said: ?Before he died, he told us not to sell the medal McCain gave him.

He said, ‘If any of the grandchildren ever go to America, having it might help them.’?

In 2000, McCain, by then a presidential candidate, visited the lake that almost claimed his life.

?His entourage was outside our house but Mr McCain just passed by,? said Mr On’s widow, who insists she bears no grudge.

Behind her calm words, however, lies an anxiety to right the injustice she feels her husband suffered.

As we prepared to leave she clutched my hand and said: ?Please help us to remind Mr McCain what my husband did.

?Just a few words will be enough to let the family know that he is grateful.?

Additional reporting: William Lowther, in Washington

4 09 2008
Bea

“McCain Votes Against Vets!” sign being held up in the back of the hall.

4 09 2008
jojin

yeah nice tie – backgrop is sickeningly green

4 09 2008
JNYC

oh please stop now with praising the Bushes

4 09 2008
Sue

OMG. When they do close-ups he’s got that god-awful green screen….tee-hee….

4 09 2008
swineprincess

Sheesh, they ran him through the spray tan booth on Dancing with the Stars!

4 09 2008
JNYC

Hey,

What did your first have to say about you tonight?

4 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Palingate:

I loved it!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

oh wow, I’m surprised he didn’t say: “…my lil trollop, Cindy….” OMG, here comes the children as prop things again.

4 09 2008
nunya

Holy Crap, this is McMaudlin

4 09 2008
magnanimouse

I think they are using the green screen so that they can superimpose black people cheering in the background later.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

“The pleasures of family life can seem like a brief holiday” – think his first wife Carol, after waiting for him 5 and a half years could say the same?

4 09 2008
swineprincess

Wait! working with land mine victims??? isn’t that the CO words?????

4 09 2008
bwilder

OMG!!! Green screen in the background again!!! Did no one
see this during rehersal?? Absolutely the worst color for a backdrop and they
did it a couple of months ago too. I’m dying over here!!

4 09 2008
Snoskred

AnneinWa – thanks for that link – everyone should read this –

http://powwarrior.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/the-measure-of-the-man-why-john-mccain-doesnt-measure-up/

4 09 2008
Jessica

My God, that video was awful. Even more bombast than the typical convention video. That voiceover was unbelievably melodramatic. But I’m sure the conventioneers ate it up.

4 09 2008
pupule

Did we see a banner “Veterans Against the War?”
Never mind, they have probably already the individual(s) out!

4 09 2008
JNYC

I won’t forget I owe you WASHINGTON

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

He must really, really like green.

He got a ton of grief for the last green one he used.

4 09 2008
raingods

That’s not spray tan, that’s the make up mortician’s use for dead bodies.

4 09 2008
jojin

barfy speech with matching backdrop.

4 09 2008
USABarbie

Thanks for watching it….I just can’t stomach it. I just donated again to Obama’s campaign. I did so last night after Miss Wasilla 1984 was on the stage.

I have never donated to any political campaign in the 30 plus years I’ve been a registered republican but this is serious business and McCain (who had my vote in 2000) is treating it like it’s a joke. Keep up the good work America depends on your involvement!

4 09 2008
Bea

“And my first wife raised my first family while I was in the Hanoi Hilton, so that I could dump her ASAP and get myslef a new and BETTER family.”

What a jerk.

4 09 2008
Duchess of Windsor

OMFG! LOL! Whatever the backdrop is, McCain in closeup is once again in front of the “lime-green jello” background. I simply can’t believe this! Has the color on my brouser gone kaflooie, or is this guy just that stupid???

ps – LOVE this blog! I’ve been lurking since Friday. Love it love it love it! Smooches from Connecticut!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

I have to say his mother looks terrific for 96.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

the odds are LONG now, McCain – look at those people! they are NOT moving – they must be paid extras! Can’t earn my trust, Pops – DID YOU KNOW THAT MCCAIN VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF THE TIME? TIME FOR A CHANGE…..AND THAT DOESN’T INCLUDE YOU, POPS.

4 09 2008
nunya

Trust? Bwwwaaaa ha ha hah haaha

4 09 2008
Ky

WAIT! There is corn on the screen now!
CORN!

4 09 2008
Gina

Proud2BUSA –

A very sad account. Heartbreaking. These people are pathological.

4 09 2008
whabs

back to that beautiful moment…I saw both the sign and tshirt with peace signs, I am watching span…did the other feeds show it?

4 09 2008
Reality Check

MCain has more hair coming out of his ears than he does on the top of his head.

4 09 2008
Ky

*hospital zone* blue
not a good choice, people

4 09 2008
JNYC

seriously with the flag waving in the background and all……..

4 09 2008
Parker CA

So they slam Obama all night then he has the nerve to say “we are all Americans, and that’s and association that is stronger than any other,” to the Obama supporters.

Stop lying you two-faced fuck!!

4 09 2008
raingods

well he certainly isn’t going to earn trust with that saracuda around his neck…

4 09 2008
swineprincess

I thought I saw a sign that said “You cannot win an occupation” or something like that — eeeeevvver sooo briefly!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

The art direction of this event is pretty dreadful.

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

Cindy and Grandma should hock those rocks and get U.S. out of debt..and yeah what is UP with that orange glow…? Why are there so many little ones up past their bedtime? They must need them to fill all those empty seats. More words words words…promises promises..blah blah blah…God I can’t WAIT until the debates!!! We’ll mop the stage with them!!! O’Bama O’Biden ’08!!!

4 09 2008
JNYC

does peace start with ba ba ba bomb bomb Iran

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

LET’S DONATE MORE NOW!!!! I JUST LOVE IT – BECAUSE ALL THESE WHITE PEOPLE (AND HECK! I’M WHITE) NEED SOME “UPPITY” FOLKS JUST LIKE US!

mccain voted with Bush 90% of the time – I can’t believe he talks about change.

IS THAT GIRL STRIPPING?

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

For the truth about Cindy’s convicted felon of a father, google Jim Hensley and Kemoer Marley. You’ll be absolutely stunned at what comes up!

4 09 2008
raingods

Ooooh, protestors, think Palin is gonna shoot them?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

It is a code pinker!

4 09 2008
chunkalove

Notice how McShame had to advertise his mother’s age? That was done simply to show us that if ma’s still kicking so he’ll be around for a long time too! Him using his mom just cost him a $30 donation to Obama/Biden.

4 09 2008
darina

Funny I don’t remember any protesters in the middle of Obama’s speech.

4 09 2008
nunya

The only way they’re gonna win this election is if they steal it again.

Don’t let them !

4 09 2008
Parker CA

NICE. Some protestors were allowed to get in there somehow!! Awesome!

4 09 2008
whabs

How many code pinkers was that?

4 09 2008
magnanimouse

I love how his supporters keep disrespecting him by breaking into “USA USA USA” in the middle of his sentences. LOL

4 09 2008
willpen

GOD BLESS KEITH OLBERMAN…. I can’t even imagine how vile that video must have been..

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Too bad his dad dropped dead of a heart attack at 70.

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

Yee Haa!!! Code Pink infiltrates!!! “Pay no attention to the ground noise and static.” More like Pay No Attention to the Man behind that curtain!!!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

He’s only fighting for the wealthy future….except for Moose Mama.

4 09 2008
JNYC

when disrupted by protesters break to Sarah, also break for Oxygen

4 09 2008
U D
4 09 2008
Plwalsh

This speech is awful.

4 09 2008
nunya

Dude.

You are the man 🙂

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

I can’t take anymore of this crap. I’m going to watch “Two and a Half Men”. I trust my friends here to keep me abreast of what’s going on.

4 09 2008
JNYC

ok more of you dumb dumb YOU ARE THE NOMINEE

4 09 2008
Gina

Wow – who’s at the top of this ticket? I’m going to puke.

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

Google Jim Hensley and Kemper Marley for the truth about Cindy’s father.

4 09 2008
darina

Good idea tell the crowd to keep chanting so you won’t have to talk about the economy and how you plan to help the middle class.

I’m going to go donate to Obama, we rasised over 8.5 mill last night. I say lets double that!

4 09 2008
Ky

“Him using his mom just cost him a $30 donation to Obama/Biden.”
Haha! Thank you!😄

4 09 2008
Bea

Nobody puts baby in a corner!

(puking)

4 09 2008
JNYC

cause Washington is like OZ

4 09 2008
USABarbie

Pass this one on!

You want to talk QUALIFICATIONS???

1980 – 1984

Obama: B.A. in political science with a specialization in international relations from Columbia University.

Palin: Wasilla High School, captain of the state-champion basketball team. Miss Wasilla, runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, also Miss Congeniality, although that is now disputed.

Him: Ivy League degree.
Her: Tiara.

1985 – 1990

Obama: moved to Chicago; became a community organizer as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization on Chicago’s far South Side. During his three years as the DCP’s director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants’ rights organization.

Moved to Boston to attend Harvard Law School. Selected as an editor and then elected president of the Harvard Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review’s staff of 80 editors.

Palin: Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, with a minor in political science from the University of Idaho. Brief stint as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations; left to join her husband in commercial fishing.

Him: Sterling legal education.
Her: Sportscaster.

1991 – 1995

Obama: Graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School; received contract and advance to write a book (“Dreams from my Father”) as well as a fellowship at the University of Chicago Law School. Directed the Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain’s Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of “40 under Forty” powers to be. Appointed as a Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Active in several community organizations, usually as a board member.

Palin: member of the Alasaka Independence Party which advocates “Alaska First”. Elected to Wasilla city council.

Him: Expert on our nation’s fundamental legal principles.

Her: Plotted to leave the Union; thinks Pledge of Allegiance was written by our founding fathers, doesn’t know what a Vice President does.

1996 – 2000

Obama: Promoted to Senior Lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. Elected to the Illinois Senate. Sponsored more than 800 bills. In 2000, lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.

Palin: elected as mayor of Wasilla (population 5,470), defeating the incumbent by a total of 616 votes to 413. Town budget, $8 million (3 millionths of the Federal budget), approximately 100 employees. Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. Fired the Wasilla police chief, citing a failure to support her administration. (He then sued Palin on the grounds that he was fired because he supported the campaign of Palin’s opponent, but his suit was dismissed when the judge ruled that Palin had the right under state law to fire city employees, even for political reasons.) Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. Wasilla had zero debt when she entered office but she left it with indebtedness of over $22 million, including $15 million-plus for construction of a hockey center which was built on a piece of property that the city didn’t even have clear title to, a matter that is still in litigation. Attempted to ban books from the city library.

Him: Sponsored 800 bills.
Her: Swayed 616 voters.

2001 – 2004

Obama: Reelected in 2002 and became chairman of the Illinois Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee.

Publicly spoke out against the invasion of Iraq BEFORE the congressional authorization in 2002, and then again before the actual invasion in 2003.

Wrote and delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

November 2004: elected to the US Senate, receiving over 3.5 million votes, more than 70% of total.

Palin: elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. Unsuccessful bid for lieutenant governor, coming in second in a five-way race in the Republican primary, receiving 19,000 votes. Appointed to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, served as chairman from 2003 to 2004 and also served as Ethics Supervisor. Resigned in protest over the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members. Exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, for doing party work on public time and working closely with a company he was supposed to be regulating. Director of Ted Stevens’ 527 group.

Him: Demonstrated the wisdom to oppose the Iraq folly before it even began.

Her: Hasn’t “really thought much about Iraq” – despite the fact that 17 Alaskans have died there

2005 to present

Obama: Sworn in as the fifth-ever African-American U.S. senator. Worked with Republican Senator Lugar to author and implement a program to locate and dismantle stray Russian WMD’s. Designated by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the party’s point man on ethics. Worked with Russ Feingold to pass a major ethics/lobbying reform bill. Cosponsored, with John McCain, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3 percent every year for 15 years). Assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Veterans’ Affairs, and Homeland Security. Chairman of the Senate’s subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. Waged a tremendous battle to become the Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month.

Palin: 2005: Board member, Valley Hospital Association, which runs the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.

Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50.
Auctioned off the Governor’s jet on eBay. Took on fellow-Republican Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska. Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil and gas development in the bears’ habitat. Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. Supported abstinence-only education. Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska’s Public Safety Commissioner. Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard, but has played no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. (The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.)

Obtained her first passport in 2007 to perform visits to the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait and Germany. (Foreign experience so limited that a stopover in Ireland listed on her resume.)

Him: Impressive figure on the national stage who knows how Congress works and is engaged with foreign policy issues.

Her: small state governor for 21 months; “next to Russia”, but that is just 1 of the 190 countries in the world she has never been to.

Conclusion: the word “executive” is not some kind of magic force multiplier when placed in front of the word “experience”. Especially when that “executive experience” is of less than 700,000 people, the approximate size of Fort Worth, Texas.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Oh, he is NOT good at teleprompter reading.

He keeps saying exactly the same stuff about Palin every time.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Someone tell me what their platform is?

4 09 2008
jojin

He suddenly looked like Dr Evil…very funny

4 09 2008
Gina

Wait! I thought she was a big spender!?!?!

4 09 2008
zorro

Check out this Obama / McCain video that switches back and forth and contrasts their speaking abilities. After watching this it becomes easy to understand how desperately McCain needed to spice up his ticket with a sexy librarian/snowmobiler/moose hunter. This is just devastating….

4 09 2008
Sue

Alright, he’s creeping me out now….he can’t “waaaaiiit to introduce her to Washington”…..eeek.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

noskred (18:20:14) :

Thanks for your link. That is a must read too.

There he goes, threatening Washington with the PITBULL again!

4 09 2008
Slappy

So, is anyone actually listening or is everyone just waiting for the next chant opportunity?

What promises has Gov. Palin made to the country?

4 09 2008
JNYC

I cannot wait for Morning Joe tomorrow cause this speech BLOWS!!!!!!!!!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Idea, idea!!!! Why don’t we invite all these Republicans to a Party and ask them to donate their Botox dollars to the middle-class and homeless????

McCain has been in Washington – yup, yup, voted with Bush 90% of the time – and Caribou Barbie…there are no words.

Was that just a middle-aged white man with “John is my Home Boy?” teeshirt? OMG!!! LOL>

4 09 2008
Jo Ann

Oh my. . .I think he just said Gov. Palin works with her hands and nose!

4 09 2008
raingods

Well McCain said she’s not so that HAS to be true!

4 09 2008
vahana

McCain just praised Caribou Barbie’s fiscal conservatism: “She’s balanced budgets!”

I wish I were on the drugs he’s taking. Since when is racking up government debt a sign of balancing a budget?

4 09 2008
Parker CA

I’m confused about who is actually at the top of their ticket.

You work for me, my ass, McSlime!!!!

4 09 2008
darina

When he introduces Palin to Washington, is he going to explain to her exactly what it is she is supposed to do first?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

God, he makes Palin look SO good.

4 09 2008
JNYC

rarawwrrr McCain SMASH

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

NEWSFLASH! John McCain has been called a Maverick – so has Tom Cruise in Top Gun!

He’s confronted the big spenders – yeah, at the shoe store!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

look at his forehead – he is frozen. I am thinking he’s frozen in time……the Botox has gotten to him.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Wow USABarbie! You really outdid yourself. I appreciate it!

4 09 2008
swineprincess

wow, he’s known as an unbranded range animal… thanks princeton wordnet!

4 09 2008
vahana

McCain will veto any pork barrel spending that comes across his presidential desk. yes, just as he vetoed the pork-barrel requests Palin submitted to bring federal money to Wasilla.

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

“Change is coming” huh Johnny Boy? Yeahrightsure ::snort:: Gonna veto that pork barrel spending huh? Not if it includes more WAR!!! If you’re making under 5 mil a year, it’s sink or swim time baby!!

4 09 2008
nunya

Oh my God, this guy is hilarious. He’s military. Think he’s gonna find pork there?

Bwaaa haa haaa haaah aaahaa hahaha

4 09 2008
darina

What did I miss? I just fell asleep.

4 09 2008
KS

Man, real time updating! Brilliant! It’s hilarious how the disrupters are keeping McCain from giving the “biggest speech of his life.” My only concern is that the protesters make the Dems look bad, coming off like wackos.

But they’re the only thing that’s keeping my attention during this speech. McCain is D-U-L-L. But it’s funny to watch him think he’s hit a “homerun!”

And have you ever noticed how he likes to repeat lines he thinks got a good response?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Say what you want about JOHN EDWARDS (ANOTHER TROLLOP) but HE”s the one who fought the tobacco companies, not Pops. I live in NC. Trust me – this was a loud issue. We know who was down here, and it wasn’t Pops.

4 09 2008
jojin

Did you see how many empty seats there were – nobody its all close up

4 09 2008
Parker CA

He said puntints too!!

Their speech writer needs some help.

4 09 2008
willpen

PalinGate (18:09:15) :

Woohoo!! 15 views! If any of you have suggestions on how I can improve the video, let me know!!

PALINGATE…. AMAZING VIDEO….. I WILL BE ADDING THIS TO MY BLOG AS WELL AS ADDING IT TO AS MANY COMMENTS I CAN ON THE MSM SITES. LET’S GET THE WORD OUT.

COMMUNITY ORGANIZING YES !!!! MCCAIN / PALIN NO !!!!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

He has said all this stuff several thousand times already so it is pretty hard to miss anything.

4 09 2008
fixthebroken

KS, given my utter paranoia of the evil of the Republican party nowadays, it would not surprise me if those protesters were planted there by the Republican party to give McCain some sympathy votes.

4 09 2008
JNYC

oh lord, did these people win a drop your card in the FoxNews fishbowl and get mentioned by John McCain

4 09 2008
USABarbie

I can’t take credit for it but it’s all true. I live in Illinois and I KNOW what voting “present” means in our senate even if Miss Wasilla doesn’t. The ignorance of some people is alarming so we have to push back and inform.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

i think everytime he needs to move his forehead, but can’t ,I’m gonna donate!

There ya go again – more children as props. These people will stop at nothing!

4 09 2008
Reality Check

Jake could be the next republican VP candidate…he has the same qualifications as Barricuda

4 09 2008
Parker CA

I fought for …”who lost their real-estate INVESTMENTS.”

Bastard. What about the people who rent, or are homeless, or is it only about the people that have multiple homes that you fight for?? Ass.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

They are showing people looking really bored in the audience.

4 09 2008
kate

Thanks for blogging it…I can’t bear to watch. Sorry I missed the disruptions though-boy, these people can’t vet anything!

4 09 2008
Bea

Isn’t “ME FIRST” was the official motto of the GOP???

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Stop the war references….No wonder why they hate us. I hate us!

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

OK, i think i am going to get fired, and I am hooked to this site!

And, I am fed up with this rhetoric.

4 09 2008
raingods

He has the nerve to talk about corruption when he took hundreds of thousands of dollars from Charles Keating? What a CROCK!

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

BTW, Proud2bUSA, I first heard the term *Caribou Barbie* last night from Mike Malloy on Nova M Radio. I also heard Stephanie Miller use it this morning. I think it’s awesome. Which kind of Barbie should we call Cindy? Billionaire Barbie? It’s a little bit of an exaggeration, but the alliteration works for me.

4 09 2008
U D

What did I miss? I just fell asleep.

McCain fought the war alone. HERO!!

4 09 2008
Snoskred

Has anyone ever seen someone else @72 look so non-wrinkled? I’m agreeing there is possibly botoxing going on.

McCain is just as bad a speaker as Cindy. You would think it would be better to speak for a shorter time when you’re this bad.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Did that woman just yawn? yeah, same old, same old. MCCAIN VOTED WITH BUSHY 90% OF THE TIME. JUST WANT TO KEEP REMINDING THOSE OLD CONSERVATIVES MONITORING THIS SITE THAT YEP, WE KNOW!

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

And oh, did I mention, no substance yet!

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

It’s macabre the way each McCain mentions the names of people with problems and each state group cheers happily. Somehow it is symbolic.

Did he just say that Obama passed legislation to give tax breaks to Oil Companies? Did I hear that right?

4 09 2008
Slappy

Yes, John, you did. You and your party lost my trust.

Did he just say he is going to stand up against the values of Americans?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

This background has serious issues with McCain’s head.

4 09 2008
JNYC

wow a Mayflower reference you go boy……….yikes

4 09 2008
Liberrian

Whoa — McCain is saying “we lost their trust” … admitting the republicans have screwed up ?! Dead silence in the hall when he was saying that …

4 09 2008
Preston

We are all God’s children! *snicker*

4 09 2008
pupule

darina (18:24:50)
Right on! We are all donating here!
$18 million tonight!

4 09 2008
Gina

Obama’s got a tribute to community organizers fundraising campaign going. I just donated. Let’s send a clear message!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/bochangevidnd?action_code=BgpYQRENBEERWl9bbhVSBgYUAQcAAkg=

4 09 2008
USABarbie

crypt keeper Barbie….ok I’m mean but I’m a republican and we can’t help it.

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

Hey, he just winked!

4 09 2008
Bea

blink. blink. blink. Does anyone know Morse code?? I think he’s spelling out “Torture, torture and MORE TORTURE!”

4 09 2008
Reality Check

Yawwwwnnnn……

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

The Keating 5 would be the Keating 4 without John McCain.

4 09 2008
fawnskin

oh, duh, MDE…

a digital camera.

4 09 2008
raingods

JNYC, wasn’t he ON the mayflower?

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Oh god – He doesn’t want judges who legislate.

How about people in the Justice Department who follow the Constitution?

4 09 2008
vahana

“We believe in low taxes,” McCain says. Why, then, choose as a running mate a woman who raised sales taxes for Wasilla, even on food?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

GWIBIMPEACHED – i just guffawed! I’m cool with Billionaire Barbie…you’ll have to put in some baby with a cleft palate for her prop…Look at me! Look at Me!!!

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

Wait a minute…What is a CULTURE OF LIFE??? Does that mean OUTLAW ABORTION IN ALL CASES?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

This speech is a total cut and paste job.

Has he said anything new?

4 09 2008
JNYC

are the “bullet points” with boo cards?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

The sheep are baaaaaaaaing now.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Is the taxi here yet? I swear I need to get out of this convention center. Oops, almost forgot… I wanna see the balloons. It’s the best part!

4 09 2008
darina

Lies Lies Lies…

4 09 2008
Johnathon

the booing is so static. It’s like they’re being forced to do it.

4 09 2008
Southpaw

I never would have voted for him, but I liked him a lot better before he picked up Sarah… I lost all respect for him then

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

the same speech writer. people are no even booing. WHAT!?!?!?

4 09 2008
DS

Count the times he says ‘fight’.

4 09 2008
Wondering_Lake

I have had ENOUGH!

McBush and Chick Cheney must be stopped.

Bumper stickers and pins:

T-shirts:

4 09 2008
JNYC

Is it just me or do those sound like hired booos ?

4 09 2008
Parker CA

This speech is just glossing over issues. Not one substantial suggestion or remedy for the root problems of the issues.

Idiot.

4 09 2008
Preston

He sounds soooo creepy!

4 09 2008
vahana

Hey, Senator! Bureaucrats already stand between me and my doctors! They just happen to be employed by insurance companies, not government.

4 09 2008
JNYC

yawn

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I think he’s had work done – an eyelift perchance. I’m telling you, I live in the South and I thought I knew big hair, but NOTHING COMPARES to this Republican Hair tonight. It must hide the robotron chip they installed in them as they enterered the convention center.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Are they listening at all? The cheering seems to come every time he pauses for a second.

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Yep, they are all cheering their money. God Bless America.

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

Where are the hecklers?

4 09 2008
Preston

Donating to Barack Obama (again).

4 09 2008
Southpaw

I bet the culture of life does mean that … outlaw all abortion. That’s what Palin stands for ….

4 09 2008
DS

Factoid: McCain is 5 ft. 9 inches tall.

4 09 2008
Austin

His lines about Obama’s healthcare plan remind of that 50s PSA with Ronald Reagan that denounces Nationalized Healthcare as a “step towards communism.”

Gasp, the Commies may win the cold war!

Thank God we’ve got Palin protecting us on the frontline…..

4 09 2008
Bea

Jobs picking lettuce?? I hear it pays $50 an hour!

4 09 2008
Wondering_Lake

Hmm. Let me try posting that again.

Bumper stickers and pins:
Jesus Was a Community Organizer Bumper Stickers and Pins

T-shirts:
Choose Hope Obama 08 Vintage 80s Tshirts

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I think Pops has gone senile. He obviously doesn’t remember that HE HAS VOTED WITH W 90% OF THE TIME.

4 09 2008
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

You are great! Fantastic and most entertaining writer I have read in a long time. I started to yawn through this diatribe, so I went out and weeded for awhile. Came back in…. same ol’ crap. But, I am suffering through it just to do my duty as an American to hear him out! Oh, man….

4 09 2008
JNYC

at this point doesn’t a kid stand up and say “the end”

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

“I know some of you have been left behind in the recent economy. That is going to change on my watch.” Yep folks he’s rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic…

4 09 2008
Preston

This is hard work for this guy. Talking, I mean.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

The fashions of this convention have been truly weird. What IS the story with Cindy’s hair?

4 09 2008
Parker CA

“Lies, generalizations, lies, rhetoric, opportunity, lies, jobs,”

This speech is packed with horse-shit

4 09 2008
Southpaw

How tall is Sarah?

4 09 2008
mongoliangirl

McCain: We will help out of work Americans get retrained and find new jobs.
Me: Really? Where? India where most American jobs have moved under Bush?

4 09 2008
Bea

He sure is mentioning “CHOICE” alot for someone that wants to control the naughty bits of 50% of the population…

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

How about…”The only way to get around Arizona is by private plane” Barbie🙂

4 09 2008
fixthebroken

Isn’t it wonderful how we know for a fact Obama writes his own speeches and just gets them reviewed, while McCain and Palin have their speeches written for them. You can tell the difference. You know Obama is speaking from the heart because he wrote the speech.

4 09 2008
JNYC

what the hell is he talking about

4 09 2008
protus

The jobs of the Dead????? o.0

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Where I live, “Empower Parents With Choice” about Education means giving vouchers to homeschoolers and private religious schools.

Just deciphering this for you.🙂

Well, he just said it – private schools. Yep.

4 09 2008
Preston

Help bad teachers find another line of work?

4 09 2008
Parker CA

“…and help bad teachers find another line of work.”

Did he really just say that?

4 09 2008
Tammy

So now he is promising school choice? Hate to break it to you McCain but Minnesota already has that.

4 09 2008
swineprincess

to them “choice” means that the government will pay for your kid to go to a private school

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Thanks, Wondering Lakes – just bought me a TEE!!!!

Okay – now I know this may be earth shattering news, but WHY HASN’T MCCAIN DONE THESE THINGS DURING HIS 30 YEARS IN THE SENATE?

4 09 2008
Preston

Stop smiling! You look like you’re going to faint!

4 09 2008
Deb

although i keep coming back to read here, i don’t say much… i just can’t believe the deciept that this party continues to try to feed to the american people..and it leaves me speechless.
JNYC….not just the boos seemed canned, the applause seems canned, the whole PARTY seems canned!!! Did someone PAY these people to come and sit there?? They keep looking around like they are looking for the next cue from the director!

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

Here I go. $100.00 to Obama.
This rhetoric if implemented will further divide this country in racial line.
I hate this.
This dude can not speak, and its all euphoria!!

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

Education is the civil rights issue of this century? B.S. – I am a teacher and I don’t want another dumb president – someone who graduated in the bottom 5 in his class, making any more decisions about education! or about WAR!

4 09 2008
swineprincess

does that include Iraq?

4 09 2008
Preston

Amen, Proud!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Oh God, did you see THAT yawn!

4 09 2008
mongoliangirl

McCain: We will have better schools with more opportunities for qualified teachers and, therefore, our students.
Me: I would so vote for him if he just said, “My name is John Mccain, No Child Left Behind is a pile of bat dung and George Bush is the spawn of Satan.”

4 09 2008
raingods

The choices HE gives you, not the choices you want-BIg difference.

4 09 2008
Liberrian

Great footage of a guy yawning!

4 09 2008
Slappy

Don’t we currently have a choice between public, private and charter schools? It must be nice to have a base of supporters that apparently doesn’t listen to what you are actually saying.

That’s right countries that don’t like us, no more money for you! Unless of course you decide to like us…and/or have any oil?

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

They’ll hate us even more if this guy is elected.

4 09 2008
Gina

Drill! Drill! Drill!

4 09 2008
Parker CA

“…the most ambitious national pro…..d….ject”

Idiot.

4 09 2008
Reality Check

Did you just hear him pronounce “pro-ject”, I didn’t realize the word had a hyphen in it.

He has got to be drunk.

4 09 2008
KS

even the people in the front row have stopped clapping. They’re that bored i guess. damn.

4 09 2008
Preston

Ha, they have Drill! hard hats!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

oh, here we go – Isolationism is ripe and alive in the RNC. YEP, that will help the global economy. . . . oh, dear, Pops – honey – the Big OIL companies reap the profits of the drilling, not you. I know it’s fun to think of yourself as King, but really now.

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Drill Now! Drill Now!

Quick, he needs a lobotomy! Drill His Skull Now!

*sorry couldn’t resist*

4 09 2008
whabs

Drill baby, drill.
Disgusting!

4 09 2008
Liberrian

My gosh, what are the handlers thinking, letting Palin wear that low-cut top?? I can see her bra !!

4 09 2008
protus

I agree time to donate more to Obama!!!!

ENOUGH of this Reptard shit!

4 09 2008
Austin

I absolutely love the crowd responses. The booing, the applause, it’s all so cued. Maybe there’s some audio editing that goes into this……or it’s prerehearesd.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

These people don’t even have a clue of what they are clapping for.

I love how he speaks about the future and says, “we’ll drill them now.”

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

Drill Baby Drill!!! Oh God they just don’t get it do they?

4 09 2008
Preston

My friends,…

4 09 2008
KS

THIS IS THE BEST BLOG EVER!! HAHAHAHA!!!

4 09 2008
nunya

DemsAreNotAfraid (18:46
Drill Now! Drill Now!

Quick, he needs a lobotomy! Drill His Skull Now!

LOL !

4 09 2008
raingods

Here’s a hint John, we don’t lead by invading countries.

4 09 2008
bwilder

I predict they get very little to no bump out of this

4 09 2008
Tammy

Okay this drill, drill, drill crap is old. The country is already addicted to oil. The point is to get the country off of it. That would be like sending an alcoholic into a liquor store. Doesn’t help them with their addiction.

He just said Obama was against nuclear power. He didn’t say that. He said he wanted to look into safe ways to harness nuclear power.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

oh my – POPS is going senile. the electric car has been around since. . . the early 1990’s…..oh!! He was Senator then and I would imagine he voted DOWN the funding those engineers requested because GM, Ford and the BIG OIL COMPANIES had him in his pocket. Pops, Pops, don’t rewrite history.

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

This is what happens when you use a “straight” show producer and set designer!

4 09 2008
sphinx

More on the drilling!!! Saracuda with the thumbs up.

4 09 2008
Preston

Children like Alex?

4 09 2008
GiGi

OK here I am

I couldn’t stand watching him trying to read the teleprompter.
He seems to forget that all of these problems he is talking
about, are problems the Republicans have brought us over the last 8 years..

He is going to have one hell of a time doing all he is promising if he is elected , when the senate and the Congress will be Veto proof

Keep us sane Muck….

4 09 2008
GR from SA

McCain – yuck!  I just sent Obama another contribution.  Lord help us if McCain/Palin get elected. Last night’s speech and this one tonight just makes me want to work harder for Obama.

4 09 2008
JNYC

no really, now? now? like right now, drilling for oil is , as easy as, opening a bottle of wine?

4 09 2008
fawnskin

now, someone tell me how to post the photo of bristol/trig

4 09 2008
Gina

Liberrian:

I’m sure that’s the idea. Gross.

4 09 2008
Deb

how can the jobs be HERE, when he is all for sending them OVERSEAS with his free market plan?? hmmmmm

4 09 2008
madbluedog

What’s with the repugs using the “Dallas” theme throughout the RNC???

4 09 2008
PJ

Where is Bush and Cheney? No mention of them whatsoever.

By the time this stupidity, I mean, convention is over, Bush will have been a Democrat, Cheney is the Tooth Fairty, and these past eight years was a bad case of indigestion.

4 09 2008
whabs

KS, it is a great blog. I agree!

4 09 2008
protus

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

AGAIN????

4 09 2008
J T

He said we are going to drill because of the damage due to high gas prices?? Maybe it was the tax insentives for people to buy Hummers….instead of gas efficiant vehicles.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

No tax cuts and a litany of “we will’s” but no suggestion as to how to pay for it.

D-bag.

4 09 2008
willpen

USABarbie (18:28:00) :

Pass this one on!

I SURE WILL…. CUT AND PASTE….great post.

4 09 2008
nunya

“My friends! Drink!”

Oh honey, I am, believe me!

4 09 2008
Laurie

Damn! I know what he reminds me of. A banty rooster. You know…that wee little rooster who struts around the barnyard…making all kinds of noise..squawking and scratching. The poor things feel inferior cause they dont have the really big red thingie on the top of their heads like the bigger roosters.

Thats John McCain…he doesnt have a big thingie like all the other guys. Poor fella…no wonder he thinks drug plans should cover viagra.

4 09 2008
fixthebroken

Liberrian, you know the low cut shirt was done on purpose, probably advice from Karl Rove, to try to *attract* the male vote

4 09 2008
Preston

Sound Familiar?

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

The “USA” chant is used to drown out protestors. It has been utilized this entire campaign every time some show up at his events. So far, I have seen 5 protestors–2 vets against McCain and 3 unknown as they got dragged out so fast and I could not see them! However, I guess a few of the “USA” chants were in fascistic rapturous unison.

4 09 2008
Gina

They WANT us to see her bra. Gross.

4 09 2008
protus

lmao!!!!

sound famiiliar???

Rich with oil weath and corrupt with power???

4 09 2008
Slappy

Is he talking about Russia or the US right now?

4 09 2008
Bea

A serious blow to Al’Qaeda??? You mean increasing their recruting by 10,000 percent??? Way to stick it to them, McSame!

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Oh, here comes the war talk, threatening Russia, and scare tactics.

4 09 2008
nauseated

http://www.colbertnation.com/?p=1593 This is a link to Colbert’s first McCain green screen challenge. I’d love to have seen Steven’s reaction when he saw that background again tonight.

4 09 2008
kate

Love his mom though, that lady has class. Of course he’s using her too-“”she’s 96”-think how long I’ll live.
Think she’s mortified by the Alaskans.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

okay – this is serious stuff and very problematic. Pops just threw out fighting words to Putin.

4 09 2008
bwilder

hey I just saw real live BLACK WOMAN!

4 09 2008
4 09 2008
Preston

Let’s see, invaded small country for oil and to intimidate other countries. Where have I heard that before?…

4 09 2008
B in Seattle

Thanks so much for your efforts, good sense, erudition and writing skill. This is the only blog not over-infested with con’s, neo that is.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Taking on Russia next, huh?

4 09 2008
protus

YooooHoooooo!!! YooooooHoooooo!!! A pirates Life For ME!!!!

4 09 2008
Slappy

Danger! Danger! Danger! Drill! Danger!!!

4 09 2008
KS

protus……………………………..

WAKE UP!!! YOU’RE MISSING SOME GREAT STUFF HERE!

4 09 2008
Southpaw

He kind of sounds like Mr. Rogers. And he looks a little bit like a Muppett

4 09 2008
JNYC

McCain SMASH Putin!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Did he just sound like Barney the Dinosaur: “…I’m not afraid…”

4 09 2008
swineprincess

wow! I just saw one of the 37 black delegates!!!! I wonder if they gave the camera people a seating chart — I heard on NPR today that there were 37 black delegates THE LOWEST # IN 40 YEARS!

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Check out the Community Organizers response. It’s great! Please share it near and far!

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Lemme guess, Obama is afraid of taking on the threats?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Oh, the black woman is getting up to leave!

He won’t get a bounce because the people will still be asleep when the polsters call.

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

Did he just provoked Russia?
What a hypocrite.

4 09 2008
chunkalove

gwbimpeached (18:36:05) –

I’d like to put “Plastic Surgery Barbie” up for consideration.

4 09 2008
protus

I know how the world works……….Yawn……………….26 years later?

4 09 2008
JNYC

oh lord here we go…….

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

bwilder – he may be the first nominee in history to actually go down in the polls AFTER hsi acceptance speech.

4 09 2008
Esther

My Friends,
We just made another donation to Obama/Biden.

4 09 2008
Preston

My friends…

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

They had cars when he was 5?

4 09 2008
vahana

Sounds good: “Education is the civil rights issue of this century.” Okay, “Help poor teachers find another line of work.” But here’s the deal on school choice and competition: public schools have mandates to provide special education services and, in many districts (for example, in California), the costs of providing special education outweight the costs of teaching the great majority of students. No wonder many schools “fail”! Can public schools be competitive with private and charter schools that do not have the special education mandate? Is “school choice” a Trojan horse leading to the economic segregation of public schools and the unequal education and third-world-status citizenship of those students who attend them?

4 09 2008
swineprincess

OH and there were less than 30% women delegates…

4 09 2008
Tammy

The only good news, according to Chuck of msnbc, is this will be McCain’s last trip to Minnesota.

He hates war but wants to go to war with Iran and Russia.

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

I think I also heard the count of hispanic delegates is down, too.

4 09 2008
Liberrian

Gina, Fixthebroken:
Amazing! So much for the family values.
Can’t help but contrast Michelle Obama’s dress & poise…

4 09 2008
whabs

I hate war….I just want 100 more years of it.

4 09 2008
bwilder

Pearl Harbor, POW, Iraq, Vietnam, I’m catching a theme here.

Oh but wait- McWar says he hates war? Internal conflict going on.

4 09 2008
Austin

Maybe Palin’s top is so low becuase she’s trying to get those undecided voters…..or she just wants Todd hot and heavy ’cause she wants another baby….or she feels proud that’s she’s hotter than her 17 year old daughter

4 09 2008
Mikal

Whoa .. I just saw Tammy Faye and Tin Tin …
close your eyes … you are getting sleepy ………….

4 09 2008
Preston

Every time he says “My friends,” we should all make a donation!

4 09 2008
raingods

Plwalsh LOL!

I donated to Obama to keep me awake.

4 09 2008
KeepPortlandLiberal

I can’t hear anything he’s saying cuz….I can’t stop looking at this teeth. Geez, he has like 7 houses and can’t cough up $100 to clean those bad boys.

He’s got the kind of voice that puts me to sleep….zzzzzzz

4 09 2008
Parker CA

ChuckFree –

I think you’re right. It will bounce tomorrow because of Palin, and then dip again because of this ass-hat.

4 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

Alaska police union files complaint against Palin

Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 3:11 PM ET
Filed Under: Politics

By Aram Roston and Amna Nawaz, NBC News producers

The GOP candidate for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, may be facing yet another ethics investigation back in her home state of Alaska. An ethics complaint obtained by NBC News was filed Wednesday by the police officers union in Alaska, requesting a probe into possible wrongdoing by the governor or her office. It was brought on behalf of state trooper Mike Wooten, an ex-brother-in-law of Palin who is at the center of the “Troopergate” scandal.

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/04/1347737.aspx

4 09 2008
JNYC

ok let’s review AGAIN ba ba ba bomb bomb Iran? Stable peace my a**

4 09 2008
Southpaw

I think that peace part was for people on the fence … not for the crowd in the hall …

4 09 2008
Gina

What? He wants to keep our kids OUT of war? I’m confused.

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

Note to the Republicans, never use a “straight” show producer and set designer!

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Guiliani appears to be praying for a new Cold War.

4 09 2008
jojin

Stingy ole me – I was holding on to my last bucks for happy hour tomorrow- but now I am shamed into donating for the first time. Somebody send me obama link, Bye bye margarita…

4 09 2008
bwilder

how long is going to go on? and on? and on?

4 09 2008
Reality Check

He should dye his hair yellow, to match his teeth.

4 09 2008
J T

I wonder if Cindy’s sister…the other daugher of her father is watching. She is the one that got just $10,000 when their father died, and Cindy promptly cut off her credit card.

4 09 2008
Preston

COMPETE in the world economy?

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

Where is the f$%^&g SUBSTANCE?

4 09 2008
raingods

If I hear one talking head say he hit it out of the park, I’ll shoot my tv.

4 09 2008
Micheal Garza

This is the first time I’ve heard McCain give a speech and it looks as if it’s the first time he’s given a speech. He’s staring at each teleprompter rather than trying to connect with the audience. I’ve even seen him squint several times. Maybe it’s time for glasses?

On some level, I do like the man. But he just doesn’t look like he was ready to make this speech. And as I type, he’s now finally looking around at the audience, only because he’s talking about his POW experience.

And now he’s back to reading from the teleprompter. Instead of looking like a future President, he looks more like grandpa reading a bedtime story to his grandson about the evil in the world.

I only wish the Giants/Redskins game had gone into overtime so I wouldn’t have to watch this.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

They are having a hard time finding people in the audience who don’t look glazed over.

4 09 2008
bwilder

info technology = series of tunes = that’s an Alaskan theory anyway

4 09 2008
KS

I just keep thinking “84,000” “84,000”

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

bwilder,

they said they left an opening of 50 minutes for this monologue.

4 09 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

War and oil – is this all these people ever dream about? Fight everyone and take all the oil they can. Greed and killing – just so uncivilized and so unChristian. Terrible sub-humans. Bring back civility and decency to America. Vote for intelligent minds, not intelligent design (whatever the hell that is).

Obama-Biden/2008

4 09 2008
Parker CA

He is so lost in his own speech.

4 09 2008
kate

oops-let me clairfy-the Alaskans sitting near her. None of the fine folks on here.

4 09 2008
Southpaw

You are right. Those teeth look bad.

4 09 2008
KeepPortlandLiberal

I just donated to the Obama campaign too : ) And next payday, I’m gonna give some more. I’ll forego my daily Jamba Juice!

4 09 2008
Tammy

If education is the civil rights issue of the century, then hold schools accountable when they screw up.

4 09 2008
Preston

My friends, (another donation)

4 09 2008
JNYC

scars?

4 09 2008
KS

chicks dig scars

4 09 2008
protus

100 flag wrappers on the wall! 100 flag wrappers on the wal!!!

Take one down! Throw em out of town!

99 flag wrappers on the wall!

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

I personally cannot WAIT to see how much of a landslide it’s going to be for Obama!! BTW, Obama was interviewed on Bill O’Reilly/FOX News tonight, and parts 2, 3 & 4 air next Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday. You can catch tonight’s installment on FoxNews.com.

4 09 2008
bwilder

“I will make them famous!” FACT: Sarah Palin is responsible for $200 million in earmarks this year alone. And, yessir, he made Palin famous alright.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Scars makes one the choice for prez?

4 09 2008
Preston

His face is one big scar.

4 09 2008
Bea

“Scars”– sickening rictous grin

4 09 2008
kate

I don’t mean the people on mudflats, obviously. I mean the people sitting near her.

4 09 2008
mongoliangirl

McCain: I will reach out my hand to anyone to help get this country moving again.
Me: And…uhhh…Sarah Palin is what you came up with for that little task?

4 09 2008
raingods

I’m officially going to puke. He actually talked about his scars.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

hahahahahah!!! BECAUSE POPS does not HAVE ANY GOOD IDEAS. OLD, WAR, WAR, WAR. I’M NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I HAVE ONE FOOT IN MY GRAVE ANYWAY!

4 09 2008
Reality Check

This speech is proof positive that McCain does indeed believe in torture.

4 09 2008
Preston

accountability is right

4 09 2008
Parker CA

The audience seriously looks comatose.

“I have that record and the scars to prove it, Senator Obama does not.”

But I didn’t think being a POW was necessary to be President.

Idiot.

4 09 2008
kimbers

I have the scars and Sen. Obama does not?????

Try growing up Black you moron.

4 09 2008
JNYC

and to your first wife……………..heheh

4 09 2008
protus

oh yeah right I call bullshit!!!

I’ll be a uniter?? not a divider??

that is sooo dejavue.

4 09 2008
Preston

My friends,

4 09 2008
vahana

LIAR: “Senator Obama does not” have a record of bipartisan leadership in the Senate. Well, maybe McCain missed the day Senate voted on the Lugar-Obama bill on campaign finance reform.

4 09 2008
KS

what’s a perfect servin?

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Say good night, Gracie!

4 09 2008
MujerAlta

It’s really cathartic to write these things but does anyone ever read them?

When Republicans need triple bipasses do they request that only ordinary persons perform the surgery?

4 09 2008
Tammy

Obama had more people in the Xcel center than McCain has there.

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Blink count??? Does anybody have a blink count???

4 09 2008
Deb

i apologize in advance for the expletive…but saying STFU to the press is transparent?????????????????

4 09 2008
evdog

Chick Cheney. Great one Wondering_Lake.

Snears and all.

4 09 2008
bwilder

ugh….arghhh…. :-(……

oh no- he’s going to the POW card again

4 09 2008
protus

Yeah he was dropped on his head as a child.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Oh, my friends, when is this going to end??

I will thank god when your speech is over!

4 09 2008
Bea

Isn’t Sarah FAMOUS for rejecting ANY idea she didn;t think of, no matter HOW good???

4 09 2008
raingods

Hey he was a POW?

4 09 2008
darina

Did anyone know McCain was a POW?!?!?!

4 09 2008
sphinx

He was blessed to be a POW?????!!!!!

4 09 2008
AZ Michelle

here we go again! gulf of tonkin . . .

4 09 2008
Laurie

ugh…here he goes…he was a pow

4 09 2008
Preston

Yes, nothing says I love you like putting a bullet through the head of the enemy.

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

ParkerCA: He is so lost in his own speech.

*lol* You’ve got that right, ParkerCA!!!

4 09 2008
JNYC

you crazy rebel did you drink beer without a glass?

4 09 2008
mongoliangirl

McCain: Long ago something unusual happened to me…
Me: John! John! Snap out of it! That was just yesterday or two days ago or something. It’s done. Nothing you can do about it now. She’s your VP. Sorry pal.

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

Nobody who was 5 years old on Pearl Harbor Day should be ANYWHERE near the nuclear codes. Hell, my pops is 73 and still gets confused by his cell phone!

4 09 2008
J T

Parker….I thought he said that, about the scars to prove it…thought I must have heard wrong. That was innane. He even smiled so “na na na” like.

Did someone write this speech? If so, he really needs a new speech writer. Seriously. This is sad.

Embarrassing.

4 09 2008
protus

he still does it for his own pleasure and pride.

4 09 2008
whabs

POW? what?

4 09 2008
Anna

POW.

I 5.4.3.2.1

4 09 2008
Ky

Is anyone else having a hard time paying attention? This is the most un-inspiring speech I’ve ever had!
Beuller….Beuller…

4 09 2008
protus

At that age I’d be proud too if I could still do it😉

4 09 2008
bwilder

you know I feel terrible dissing him on the POW card- but give me
a break or a drink or I am going to cut me f’n wrists

the media and late night comics are going to go nutz on this speech

4 09 2008
Gina

No credit to the guy who saved him! I’m outraged!

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Uh oh. Did you hear that true confession about his temperment? Uh oh. Uh oh!

4 09 2008
Austin

wait…..I thought he didn’t like bragging about himself……

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

We are back to the dark cell where he semi-died.

4 09 2008
Preston

So that’s why he’s so deformed.

4 09 2008
Slappy

Wait! Was he a POW???

4 09 2008
Bea

Wait., wait… how do you think this story ends??? I sure hope he makes it back to the ship!

4 09 2008
darina

I have an idea everytime we hear the POW story kets go donate!

4 09 2008
vahana

Before he’s done, I’m leaving to donate to Obama again.

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

chunkalove (18:50:09), speaking of *Plastic Surgery Barbie* have you noticed her *extreme makeover* between 2000 and 2008? Her BEFORE in 2000 barely looks like her with the mousy hair color and short-short cut. Her wardrobe was quite drab too. I wonder how many millions of dollars (including clothes and jewelry) have gone into her campaign makeover.

4 09 2008
Reality Check

I will volunteer to spend the rest of my life in the Hanoi Hilton if he stops!

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Get me outta this f***ing box already!

4 09 2008
whabs

When I didn’t get better….
Can we SEE those medical records?
Can we see ANY medical records?
Can we see more protesters?
PLEASE????

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

Cindy (17:52:04) :

Actually loling about “John has his hands on the wheel but it’s good to have a female hand on there too.” I’m picturing a 150 million car pileup from the McCain Palin car driving powerstruggle.

Note the driving scene. It says it all:

4 09 2008
swineprincess

seriously, they must have a seating chart for those black delegates… I haven’t seen the same one twice yet…

cue black delegate 23

go 23

4 09 2008
Bethany

did you guys know, mccain was a POW?

I’d never heard that before tonight! (cough, sarcasm, cough)

4 09 2008
Parker CA

“I was blessed by misfortune” of being a POW.

“I like to bend a few rules and pick a few fights for the fun of it.” Oh, yes, that’s exactly what I want in a president.

“I was dumped in a dark cell and left to die.”

He is just throwing the entire kitchen sink of POW at this audience.

Incredible.

4 09 2008
Laurie

mujeralta….I read every single comment. Its the only thing keeping me sane

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

do y’all think this might be Cheney in disguise? His face doesn’t move, his teeth are false, and his suit is a little weird. Let’s see if he mentions the heroic Vietnamese who rescued him. . . nope. . because he’s not a white man! looking for some diversity. . .

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

This is REALLY like grandpa— you know, the old guy who keeps telling the same old war stories until you know them by heart?

4 09 2008
bwilder

protus (18:56:34) :

he still does it for his own pleasure and pride.

EXACTLY

4 09 2008
Ky

er…heard, not had.
Sorry, I fell asleep at the keyboard.

Shame on Obama for being born too late to serve in the Vietnam war!

4 09 2008
sarah

john mccain was a pow… who knew!?😉

4 09 2008
protus

I call Flag Wrapping!!!!

4 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

take the POW card, shredd it in the shredder and …… you guys know the rest!!!

I am sick of the fearmongering

I am sick of the POW card

4 09 2008
mde

MujerAlta (18:55:27) :

We’re reading! I think the answer is No!

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Did anybody see the Obama/O’Reilly showdown yet?

4 09 2008
prettybrown

Why is he jumping on Obama’s theme of Change all of a Sudden. I have been her this at this convention alot. They cant get their own theme.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

His brow just moved. . . time to donate.

4 09 2008
KS

just please don’t bring out the “sand in the cross” story. AGAIN.

4 09 2008
Bethany

johnny has NO FLAG PIN!!!

where are the flag pin police??

4 09 2008
chunkalove

Seems more “lobotomized” than usual… did he miss his nap this afternoon?

4 09 2008
halcrow

Back to the tiny dank cell. When you’ve lived in a box, the world becomes clear. When you’ve lived in a box….When you’ve lived in a box (repeat)….Country first.

Lots of the homeless live in a box, and lots of those homeless are Vietnam vets.

Those vets are still in a prison of the Vietnam War’s making.

Do something for them, please, Pistol-Packin’ Palin and John McCain (did you know that McCain was a POW?).

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

“They didn’t set my bones properly, properly.” I think he hit his head too hard and they didn’t set it at ALL!!! WHEN is he going to talk about something ELSE besides Viet Nam??????

4 09 2008
KeepPortlandLiberal

Did some one say Blacke Butte Porter?? Why, I live a few blocks away from the Deschutes Brewery….I’m about to go toss some back becase this shit is boring. Anybody notice that just about everybody on Social Security is in the audience??

4 09 2008
Laurie

lol@demsarenotafraid

4 09 2008
nunya

Have you heard McCain is a POW?

4 09 2008
protus

Is it still going? Is he dead yet???

Oh dear they worked him over.

4 09 2008
JNYC

oh come on now, is this reviewing an episode of the Shield

4 09 2008
Parker CA

“…that they would use it as propaganda…but I turned it down” so I could use it for propaganda when I went senile and ran for president of the USA.

4 09 2008
sarah

vietnam veterans against john mccain…

4 09 2008
raingods

Next thing you know, he’ll have been crucified, died, buried in a tomb and risen from the dead 3 days later…

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

ANd he’s breaking me! THIS, my friend, is torture!

4 09 2008
Mikal

OMG … his captors wanted to release him because he was too damn boring! Sorry .. I’m bad and being mean spirited. Water-board me pleez.

4 09 2008
Crap

G, Cindy looked spooky :)))

4 09 2008
Preston

There should be a game show where contestants earn points by torturing themselves. The object is to build as much character as John McCain. Bonus points for each broken bone and whenever you are given the oppurtunity to leave but don’t.

4 09 2008
protus

Man this is sooo ad lib Iknow thats not what was said.

4 09 2008
bwilder

Reality Check (18:57:25) :

I will volunteer to spend the rest of my life in the Hanoi Hilton if he stops!

LMAO!!!!!!!

4 09 2008
Tammy

Gina (18:57:00) :

No credit to the guy who saved him! I’m outraged!

__________________

I noticed that.

4 09 2008
Bea

Why does he act like he’s the ONLY one who did this?? HUNDREDS of other POWs did the same AND MORE.

You are SCUM, John McCain.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Yup, comfort of life here in my 7 houses…

4 09 2008
protus

Just say you fucking love it john dear god!!!

4 09 2008
ann

As an old fart, i feel i can say mccain is like many of us older folks – like to talk about out life, and talk, and talk, and talk…yawn!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Ana Gama, I looked tonight and all those McCain signs are definitely gone. Just a couple signs for local races left.

4 09 2008
jack

Why are Republicans so proud to be the Stoopid Party?

4 09 2008
Tammy

“I fell in love with my country when I was a POW.”

_________________________

So you are finally admitting you didn’t love your country before that?

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

oh no, HE is going to BOMB eyeRAN!!!

4 09 2008
JNYC

and that’s is why I am not so sure I want your hand on the button

4 09 2008
KeepPortlandLiberal

OMG! Did I just see someone with tears running down their face??? Hispanics for McCain?? WTF??!! Not my family!!

4 09 2008
willpen

I don’t know how your heads have not exploded yet from watching this. My son put it on and I threatened him within an inch of his life if he didn’t turn it off.

4 09 2008
raingods

Sadly Protus it’s not adlib, I read a lot of this on Huffington Post before the speech.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

This speech is a total failure. All it is is war, pow, war, angry countries that will attack us, old war stories, and a very light gloss on what McSlime will do.”

“I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone elses.” So does that mean you didn’t love your country when you were serving it before you were held captive? Hypocrite.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

I am blessed with such personal greatness???????

4 09 2008
swineprincess

Saw another black delegate — time to donate! This was a two for one — double donation.

4 09 2008
4 09 2008
Austin

as long as he draws breath……WERE DOOOOOOOOOOMED!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

This is the deadest-looking national convention office I have ever seen.

Guess it goes with the candidate…

4 09 2008
Preston

My friends, tell me: when is this going to be over?

4 09 2008
Southpaw

They dig this because it is very religious … a born again American …

The country saved him…

He’s not trying “to save” the country, like that upstart opponent of his …

That’s the subtext …

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

DRILL…DRILL…DRILL… I feel like someone is DRILLING my teeth!

I wasn’t my own man any more – I was my country’s? What about your family’s father and husband???

4 09 2008
bwilder

Halcrow:

Lots of the homeless live in a box, and lots of those homeless are Vietnam vets.

Kudos!

4 09 2008
willpen

OH….and one more thing. Has anyone been keeping count of the POW and MY FRIEND?

4 09 2008
pupule

Cue the tears!

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

I say, if John McCain wants to keep fighting for his country, then send him to Iraq to fight.

Immediately. Please, President Bush!

4 09 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

enough of the pow talk – it’s getting really ooooooolllllllllllddddddd – much like him.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

November, Preston

4 09 2008
protus

lol teach an adult to read😉

4 09 2008
wait. what?

As the offspring of a POW, I find what he is saying deplorable. One could not drag out of my father, even with additional torture, what he endured. That McCain exploits this, is just unreal, and flatly FAKE.

4 09 2008
swineprincess

Be a community organizer!

4 09 2008
bwilder

teach an illiterate adult to read

just like I taught my good friend Georgie!

4 09 2008
KS

this is soooooooooooooooooooooo hokey

i can’t take it much longer.

4 09 2008
Sue

ok, just donated again.

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Happiness is a warm gun.

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

FEED A HUNGRY CHILD. And that you stupid old man, is called Social and Community Organizer.

4 09 2008
Deb

was this the speech of an old war veteran whose best memories of the U.S are about WAR?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I think we have a theme FINALLY –

– I have no new or good ideas, so I will take that uppity Barack Obama’s.
– Women are nothing more than trollops so I have to help them decide what to do with their bodies
– I want to remind you all that we are here for WAR, WAR, WAR. that’s the theme and it feels like an entire generation may be slaughtered under the Republican Reign. Let’s pi** off Putin. Iran. Iraq. Because hey! We have Caribou Barbie who has lived next to Russia, so “we’re not afraid.”
– I believe all Americans must be white.
– I can’t spell “maverick” – no lie – someone just held up Mavrick! GOD HELP THE REPUBLICAN’S EDUCATION SYSTEM!

4 09 2008
J T

You know what I will REALLY hate if McCain gets in? Having another public speaker like Bush.

I enjoy listening to Obama and the Clintons. Even if you disagree with them, they are articulate and say something.

Crap..now his is going on encouraging others to give back, to do something for others….is that their way to do damage control over Palins shot at Obama last night?

4 09 2008
deuce2

It’s almost 10 pm. Time for J.McBush to go beddy bye. Speech sucked.
I donated twice yesterday. Maybe just one more time. Can’t wait for the
free bumper sticker. Great blog. You people are wonderful.

4 09 2008
Preston

Nice

4 09 2008
raingods

Hey, when did they change the background from that horrid green to the boring blue?

4 09 2008
Nebalaskan

Sarah is showing a lot of skin tonight. Reps out for the last few “creep” votes. What are those pins that the Palin’s are wearing? They look a bit like the blue star banners that were displayed in ww2 (son in service). No, they can’t be that over-the-top.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

MAVRICK??? SPellcheck if you’re going to be on camera…Were you the one child left behind?

4 09 2008
chunkalove

Oh geez – one of the delegates has his big sign that say “MAVRICK.” Republican delegates like to show off their fine spelling prowess.

4 09 2008
JNYC

wow I think I heard my highschool principal say the say thing when I was a Freshman in highschool, I am just as tearing now as I was then………

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

Fight with me! I am ready for that! We finally agree!

4 09 2008
Austin

Help the oppressed…..teach an illiterate adult to read……get involved….unless you’re a community advisor because they have no responsibilities.

4 09 2008
PJ

This is just too awful.

Stand down, John McCain.

4 09 2008
Southpaw

fight fight fight

maybe he’ll start speaking in tongues soon !!!!!!

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Oh it’s the finale!

4 09 2008
judy in Chicago

Earlier he said they need to GO BACK to the values of the days of Reagen, and blah blah blah.

GO BACK……yeah right. Lets GO BACK. That sounds really…………. progressive.

Hard to think he’s the best that party has to offer. ……….maybe not

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Cross in the sand? You mean the story he stole from “The Gulag Archipelago?”

From the novel:

“As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly he looked up and saw a skinny old prisoner squat down beside him. The man said nothing. Instead, he used a stick to trace in the dirt the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.”

4 09 2008
Jennifer

Can I just say:

WHY IS BEING A POW FORTY-SOMETHING YEARS AGO SUPPOSEDLY SO RELEVANT TO BEING PRESIDENT **NOW**?? Enough already!

I mean geez, who else harps on endlessly about something that happened to them more than four decades ago??? It’s like a religious fanatic, or a former alcoholic, or someone who is handicapped go on and on and on about themselves, as if we’re all supposed to be hanging on their every word.

And is just me, or does this speech seem like it was written by and for children? Where’s the poetry? Where are the nuances? The ideas are simple and direct… and dull and cliche.

4 09 2008
Preston

Sit down, your legs were never healed completely!

4 09 2008
bwilder

oh Johnny Boy got ’em goin now- Stand Up!

and it’s making him do that creepy smile thing

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

fight with me – stand up and fight???? LET’S DONATE AND GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.
BTW, HITLER MADE HISTORY. . . yikes.

4 09 2008
whabs

We never hide from History (we rewrite it)

4 09 2008
Ky

Is this the sound of canned clapping?

4 09 2008
KS

FINALLY

4 09 2008
protus

oh god somebody call 911 hes blowing a gasket.

4 09 2008
JSter

“teach an illiterate adult”… like the one holding the “mavrick” sign! sheesh!

4 09 2008
JNYC

Really, Really?? note to McCain don’t speak at halftime when your team is down 21-0.

4 09 2008
Tammy

After a Web search of videos played at the Democratic National Convention last week, CBS News found no obvious use of stock footage.

At least the dems don’t have to lie to get their point across.

4 09 2008
kimbers

yeah but Plwalsh, Grandpa wouldn’t have mucked it up if the teleprompter was broken.

4 09 2008
AKR from Wasilla

He said FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. As if we are going to WAR tomorrow. Oh NO. Repubs are doomed, and good for them!

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

Oh God, that Grand Finale!!! He is THE most boring, uninspired speaker I have EVER heard!!!

4 09 2008
mongoliangirl

McCain: We never hide from history! We make history!
Me: Oh, yeah, I’ll be hiding from history if you get elected. I may even move.

4 09 2008
Debbie

Interesting maybe he got the message about her sneer at community organizers was a slap in the face of all volunteers. He just talked about volunteering being serving a cause greater than yourself.

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

Everyone here stay strong! I’m sick of the Republican Party meme that says only Republicans can be patriotic and everyone else who is not a Republican are traitors.There are soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines of the United States of America on this site. There are veterans here. There are citizens here. We are all Mudflatians now as our unit. We are now going to take our country back in the name of our fathers and mothers that went before us. I’ve had enough of this corporatist Fascist baloney.

Remember this day as you talk sense to as many people as you can.

4 09 2008
Preston

Happy Thanksgiving!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

This is just AWFUL!

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Plwalsh (19:00:52) :

Ana Gama, I looked tonight and all those McCain signs are definitely gone. Just a couple signs for local races left.
—————————
WOOOOO-HOOOOO!

Can you ask them what happened? You could feign shock, like, “Did someone vandalize your signs or what??”

4 09 2008
VP, Flat Earth Society

wow – he looks like an old charlie chaplain. i knew he reminded me of someone.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Cindy, bring me my cane…

4 09 2008
PJ

What an odd ending. He just doddered away from the podium!

4 09 2008
pupule

STAND UP!
But…not as a community organizer!
Time to donate to Obama/Biden!

4 09 2008
Parker CA

That was SUCH a fake and staged applause in that arena.

4 09 2008
KS

Hey, you guys made this pathetic speech alot more fun. thank you!

4 09 2008
bwilder

well I didn’t die of boredom or suicide so all in all it’s a good night

Donate. Volunteer. Vote
http://www.Obama08.com

4 09 2008
eberit

He should watch his sorry old man butt because Sarah is sensing weakness and may find an opportunity to do him in politically along the lines of how she used Uncle Ted and Murcky to be close and then turn on them.

4 09 2008
protus

Ok someone please tell me what the hell was that about teaching them and preparing them for dead jobs???

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Can he dance?

4 09 2008
nunya

Whew it’s over. And I stayed awake the whole time. I want brownie points.

4 09 2008
halcrow

This is like watching the persistent-vegetative-state and plug-pulling debacle that the Bushes inserted themselves into a couple of years ago.

Pull the plug on him; there’s nothing there (did you know that McCain was a POW?).

4 09 2008
Bystander

Is this the death knell for John Rich and perhaps Big & Rich?

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Raisin’ McCAin! YEEEEE–HAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

4 09 2008
bwilder

OK now what- pundits or Jon Stewart’s take on last night with Sarah Palin

4 09 2008
Parker CA

“We’re all just raisin’ McCain”

HAHAHAHAA

If you’ve ever wondered, that’s what a room full of idiots looks like.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

My grandpa didn’t use a teleprompter!

4 09 2008
raingods

Holy crap, was that the worst speech ever given by a candidate?

4 09 2008
Anna

Uh oh. Looks like someone needs to possibly wake Olbermann and the rest up. That speech may have just put them to sleep

4 09 2008
PJ

There were 80,000 people screaming for Obama last week.

This is just so phoney.

4 09 2008
Preston

War Music!

4 09 2008
PJ

What the fuck are they waiting for, the balloon drop?

4 09 2008
Anonymous

LOL, I just saw a “Mavrik” sign.

I love how McCain has all these brilliant ideas, but STILL REFUSED TO SAY *HOW* HE’D ACCOMPLISH THEM!!

Total rubbish. Everyone in that hall looked as bored as I was. Imagine sitting through a State of the Union with that voice.

And he has his own country song? Who’s the celebrity NOW?? F’ing hypocrites.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Stewart, or I’ll have to blow my brains out.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

What IS that hairdo?? It shouldn’t be on anyone older than 22!

4 09 2008
protus

lmao!!!! Happy Thanksgiving to you!!😀

4 09 2008
ReaderInMD

That projection screen was a biiiiiiig mistake! I’m getting seasick just looking at it.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

He never knows what to do with himself when he’s on stage with other people. Cindy is his keeper. Scary.

4 09 2008
willpen

Is it true that he was a POW… !!! OMG

4 09 2008
bwilder

Bystander (19:06:01) :

Is this the death knell for John Rich and perhaps Big & Rich

It is for me.

4 09 2008
Bystander

Woohoo! Prom season has ended. The real work begins now.

4 09 2008
Preston

stirringly?

4 09 2008
akmuckraker

Oh my God. I feel like I’ve been hit by a bus.

4 09 2008
PJ

Finally!!! The balloons!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

baloons?

4 09 2008
protus

Ok the TV is off I need to hear nothing but my farts and the wind blow after that.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Point, point, point at something, keep pointing, wave, keep pointing, oh, damn, that’s the wall, turn around, point at something else, keep pointing, be weird with kids, point.

4 09 2008
sphinx

Thank God that’s over. Just switched over to Jon Stewart to get some real perspective on this mess.

4 09 2008
nunya

Hey anbody wanna bet that it will be another good night for Obama campaign donations. it was last night 🙂

Palin’s Convention Speech Brings in Cash for Obama

4 09 2008
Preston

And there it is!

4 09 2008
Ky

Thank you SO much for struggling through that with me, everyone! I don’t know if I could have sat through that, otherwise.

It was like some special edition of Mystery Science Theater 3000!
Except, the topic was horrifying…

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

There they go.

4 09 2008
Sarah from CA

LOL, I just saw a “Mavrik” sign.

I love all of his brilliant ideas… wish he’d actually SAY HOW HE’LL ACCOMPLISH ANY OF THEM!!

And he has his own country song? Who’s the celebrity candidate again??!

4 09 2008
raingods

Where was his flag pin?

4 09 2008
bwilder

Keith Olberman just pointed out that Cindy McCain “works with her
hands and her nose” noting McCain’s screw up!

4 09 2008
Preston

can we beat last night’s 8 mill in donations?

4 09 2008
BobbyG

Formulaic. Predictable. Banal.

POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW …

4 09 2008
PJ

I hope Heart complains about them playing Barricuda!!!

4 09 2008
Liberrian

Who was in charge of the music, ick!!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Well, that was WAY below my already low expectations.

4 09 2008
raingods

Scraping lines together with her hands to snort in her nose?

4 09 2008
Micheal Garza

Are they really playing the song Barracuda?

4 09 2008
Ky

I hope the Wilson sisters sue them for using this song.
So. Wrong.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Chris Mathews is giving him way too much credit. Fawning all over this.

4 09 2008
Southpaw

The classiest one on the stage is his mom.

4 09 2008
Bea

What a waste of latex! Someone should collect them and recycle them for condoms for Wasilla!

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

99% of the people there don’t know this song and why they might be playing it.
No “pop” references, just “Pop” references.

4 09 2008
swineprincess

uh Barracuda????? Do you think they got permission to use that song THAT way???? sheesh.

4 09 2008
Freakout In Kansas

Are Cindy’s (two) half sisters up there on stage?

4 09 2008
PJ

CNN commentators are stunned speechless.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

okay – the NeoNazis have had their voice. Now, let’s get out the Rest of AMERICA and ORGANIZE. These people have admitted they have no good ideas. Their Botoxed leader has admitted the only thing he knows about is WAR. There was no substance to what the heck are we going to do about the economy, energy besides drill, baby, drill – adios polar bears!, peace……there’s the baby!!! That poor thing – don’t you just wonder why they do this to their child?

4 09 2008
Preston

He’s just letting Palin wave! Ha.

4 09 2008
Mikal

I recall Obama’s speech being referred to as a “symphony” … guess we can call McCain’s a “dirge”!

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

No! NOT Hart’s Barricuda! No!

4 09 2008
you'rekidding,right?

Don’t know if someone mentioned this, but the federal check has now been cut for McCain.

Donate now. Donate early. Donate often.

Obama/Biden ’08

4 09 2008
protus

Parker CA (19:08:07) :

lmao!!! ‘be weird with the kids’ lol! I noticed that too.

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

LOL Bea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 09 2008
zorro

I’m hoping that somebody issues a DVD of tonite’s GOP festivities. It would actually make a great fundraising tool for Obama house parties. You could invite friends and neighbors over for doughnuts and coffee and give them a video reminder of just why it’s so important that we win in November.

4 09 2008
willow

Are they playing barracuda by heart in the balloon drop????????
OMG

4 09 2008
Deb

he looks a bit weary as he walks across the stage….looks like cindy is ready to catch him if he stumbles!

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Hey–“Heart??” The Wilson sisters have to kick barracuda Palin’s ass now.

4 09 2008
tad

theme song for Sarah barracuda……who is the canidate here…..john or Sarah…..

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Everybody drink!!

then donate

4 09 2008
bwilder

Chris Matthews is losing his marbles?

4 09 2008
PJ

CNN commentators are still stunned speechless as camera closes on McCain’s thinning white hair.

4 09 2008
Deb

yes…it’s barracuda

4 09 2008
Reality Check

Anyone know how many people were at the convention tonight? Looks like they were so desperate they allowed several democrats in just to stir the lace up and fill some seats.

4 09 2008
evdog

Nurse Palin… Nurse Palin. Please help the elderly off stage.

4 09 2008
Tammy

Debbie (19:04:49) :

Interesting maybe he got the message about her sneer at community organizers was a slap in the face of all volunteers. He just talked about volunteering being serving a cause greater than yourself.

_______________________

Maybe he needs to pass that on to his surrogates. ONe of them said that Obama should had gone into the military instead of doing community organizing.

4 09 2008
chunkalove

Was Levi there?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

The music is from the 80’s! DONATE, DONATE, DONATE.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Mathews is giving so much f-ing praise. Really? “I think he will be ahead in the polls next week.”

4 09 2008
Preston

C’mon guys! We can beat last nights 8 million in Obama donations!

4 09 2008
KeepPortlandLiberal

McCain looks like the Cryptkeeper and you are right, Cyndy is his keeper. And he can barely walk!

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Every time Scaracuda disses Obama, donate! McCain’s locked into the $85m

HA!

4 09 2008
PJ

This had all the energy of a liver transplant.

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

They basically desecrated the chord progression and slur chops of Johnny B. Goode for that “Johnny Whatever” theme song. What an affront to every garage band everywhere. As a rock musician in my wayward youth I am outraged!

4 09 2008
you'regonnaburnburnburn

Using Heart’s “Barracuda”. Nancy and Ann Wilson are not going to be happy.

4 09 2008
Laurie

CNN just said that they heard more substance in mccains speech than they did in obamas?????

4 09 2008
Bystander

Republicans Lack Heart!

Ann and Nancy Wilson are pissed at the Republican Party and have fired off a cease and desist letter to the McCain/Palin campaign.

Specifically, the Heart women are upset that the GOP has used their classic “Barracuda” as a theme song for Sarah Palin. TMZ obtained a statement from Heart’s rep, who says “The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission.”

The statement goes on: “We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We hope our wishes will be honored.”

We’re told Ann was watching TV today and heard the song at the convention when Palin was touted

4 09 2008
protus

Well they are stunned because mccain blew a wad after all the pointing and saving everyone from themselves.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Looks like such a bad party.

4 09 2008
Sarah from CA

VOTE VOTE VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN. If for no other reason that I can’t stand the thought of having to sit through a State of the Union speech in that strained, bored voice of his.

CNN needs to pull their head out of McCain’s butt. Seriously.

4 09 2008
kimbers

Mine either Plwalsh, mine either. But if they had one and it failed, they wouldn’t have missed a beat, like a certain nominee did tonight. : )

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

raingods: “Where was his flag pin?”

Hahahahaha! Let’s write to MSNBC asking them that!

4 09 2008
Merle

Well, folks. looks like that punt took a bounce for Team Obama!

4 09 2008
Gina

Oh no – not Earth Wind and Fire! I used to like that song.

4 09 2008
wait. what?

The baby is back as a prop? Have these peeps no shame at all? Anyone?

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Is that how the Code Pinks got in….they needed butts in the chairs and were desparate?

4 09 2008
U D

Palin Milfanoma McCain.

4 09 2008
raingods

Chunkalove: levi is currently being held in a local Holiday Inn, being watched by some hockey mom’s with shotguns and a wedding ring.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

okay- the little OLD NeoNazi’s have had their voice. Now let’s go DONATE, ORGANIZE AND GET OUT THE VOTE. PLEASE VOLUNTEER TO HELP THOSE LESS FORTUNATE THAN YOU TO THE VOTING BOOTHS ON 11/4/08. DON’T LET THE ELITIST TAKE THIS ELECTION FROM THE GREAT DIVERSITY OF OUR WONDERFUL COUNTRY, AND will someone please clarify McCain’s remarks to Putin so we have all of cities intact tomorrow?

4 09 2008
jack

Ow, BBC World Service is lapping it all up. They mention anti-war protesters as if they were weirdos.

McCain fought so many people. Yanno, he’s been called “a maverick”? (Maybe he was a POW too?)

He works for you.

Ooh, and he called Obama a “fellow American”. How condescending is that?

Puke.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

The phrase “bargain basement” comes to mind.

I wonder why?

4 09 2008
PJ

McCain is a walking Grim Reaper.

4 09 2008
Liberrian

What?! Judy Woodruff (PBS) is saying it’s a “great speech” ??? What the –??

4 09 2008
yourinfo

I can not watch the speech and I will try my best to change channels when the lying people start talking…

I will come here and reading info…I will read headlines…

I don’t think I can stomach 8-weeks of these lying people…I may end up in the hospital if I try that…

I am going tune in from time to time…but I am going spend my time doing research…plus it fantasy football time so I am not going to have free time …

But I will stay inform…and keep making my small donation…even if I don’t have it…

Our donation hit $10-million in one day of given…

Thanks everyone…keep fighting

4 09 2008
KS

let’s all meet here again for the debates! ooooh, i cannot wait.

4 09 2008
Sarah from CA

The RNC is singlehandedly destroying my love for so many good songs!! “Barracuda” and now Earth Wind, and Fire’s “September”!

STOP!!

4 09 2008
Jennifer

Interesting – the lyrics to Barracuda go, in part:

“And if the real thing won’t do the trick
You better make up something quick…”

Freudian slip? Or no one bothered to vet the song properly?

4 09 2008
Liberrian

Jack:
That’s “mavrick”, buddy. New spelling courtesy RNC.

4 09 2008
Cassie

Fight…fight…fight…fight (John McCain)

Why can’t I build…create…mold…craft…grow…change?

Go Obama!

4 09 2008
jboone

they are actually PLAYING “Barracuda” by Heart. she’s a pitbull, and an aggressive fanged fish. and she’s embracing that.

4 09 2008
Wilber

I just finished watching McCain’s acceptance speech. I haven’t read through the postings, but the only thing that kept coming to mind was George C. Scott in Patton. He should have been in uniform and wore a helmet.

It all sounded pretty good. It was even delivered reasonably well (I guess 6 weeks of practice pays off). The problem is that nothing he said squares with his record. I’d vote the the guy he was describing. It just isn’t John McCain. And it sure as hell isn’t Sarah Palin.

I’m glad this is over. I can afford to keep sending money to Obama every time these jack asses make a speech.

4 09 2008
Tammy

Hillary has released a statement.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

4 09 2008
whabs

There was something warm and fuzzy about watching with you all. Thanks. I still need a hard-core shower though!

4 09 2008
KeepPortlandLiberal

I just Donated Again! Twice in one day….!

4 09 2008
Duchess of Windsor

Heh – “virtual” fireworks goings off on the screen in the background, and Heart singing “Barracuda”. I wonder if Heart approved the playing of their song. McCain hasn’t bothered to ask a bunch of others, Springsteen, Mellencamp, the guy from America (iirc) who is actually a Dem member of Congress…..

But I guess if you’re a “maverick”, you play the tunes first and ask questions later.

What a yawn of a speech. And imo, McCain looks suspiciously like Lon Chaney Sr in Phantom of the Opera. He’s just creepy.

4 09 2008
gizmo

Imagine what it smells like in that convention hall. The scent of a few thousand elderly Republicans is something I never want to experience.

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Bystander! I just heard the song again a minute ago!

I knew Heart hadn’t given permission for that song!

I wonder if Tom Petty gave permission for “Won’t Back Down” to be played? I heard that earlier this evening.

4 09 2008
CHCH

Muckracker, if and when the scandal dies down, can you please do a blow by blow of Palin’s ‘famous’ railroading of BP? I read a good analysis of it that suggested that Palin basically socialized the BP fields and then handed them over to a Canadian outfit. BP is annoyed, I’ve heard. Perhaps this accounts for the drop on Wall Street yesterday?

Let’s do a Rove. Attack her positives. Start blogging about her socialist policies for big business–congratulate her for her reform but stop short of recommending nationalization for all large corporations.

And then donate, donate, donate because after watching both conventions, I’d say Spielberg is directing Obama’s media. It’s so good–but it must be expensive.

Donate.

4 09 2008
protus

I think if the baby died they would still carry it around and try to get votes with it.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I think we all need to be practicing “duck and cover” after his fighting words to Putin tonight.

4 09 2008
Pamela Picard

Last night was disturbing. Tonight was comical. Good grief. Can these people not conceive their own ideas? Must they co-opt everything!?

And how many times must we hear the John McCain POW experience? It was not 2 years after my mother started to repeat her stories – over and over and over – that she was hospitalized with Alzheimer’s Disease.

4 09 2008
PJ

Hey they’re playing Earth Wind and Fire! The blackest they’ve been of the convention!

4 09 2008
Tammy

Jennifer when has the McCain campaign vetted anything. Wasn’t there another song they were playing and someone brought up what the words really meant.

4 09 2008
makeitgoaway

OMG..my eyes were burning from the blue screen of death. Thank you, ‘my friends’ for enduring the torture giving those of us too weak to stay the course the blow-by-blow of the speech and make it entertaining. I’m laughing way too much at the wit y’all have delivered tonight. I’m off to donate $10 for every ‘my friends’ he injected in tonights speech of a lifetime. What a ‘mavrick’ you are Johnny!

4 09 2008
DS

With all that beer money, you’d think he’d just retire someplace warm and comfy instead of putting his old bones through all the stress of a presidential campaign.

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

Yes. It was a “re-branding” of the Republican Party. OMG. What utter crap! They rail AGAINST the Republican Party but… THEY THEMSELVES ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WROUGHT THE DISASTER WE ARE IN! THEY *ARE* THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Do they know that Earth Wind and Fire are black people?

4 09 2008
Tammy

Isn’t Earth, Wind and Fire Obama supporters?

4 09 2008
Austin

The speech was better than Palin’s, but her’s was at least amusing.

4 09 2008
whabs

OK, one more thins.
I’m not running because I think I’m blessed and because I’m annointed to save country in hour of need (with snark)…
No, wasn’t that Bush?

4 09 2008
PJ

Hey they danced on the Titanic too.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

The BIG advantage McSlime/Baracuda now have is that they ride the conversation and analysis for the next week. Obama got none of that. That means we need to work 10x as hard to make this happen. Expect them to be up in the polls next week.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

AKMuckraker, thanks for being such a wonderful host. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate (and tonight and last night have ENJOYED) you blog. Your writing skills are stellar. Your sense of humor is enticing and entertaining. And your straightforward reporting is refreshing!

Anne in Washington

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Let’s recap, shall we?

– We don’t have any new good ideas, so we’ll take Obama’s.
– Women are trollops. Their bodies are here for white men.
– WAR, WAR, WAR. . . i am not afraid. . .
– Children are no more than a convenient prop: CLEFT PALATE, DOWN’S SYNDROME, Knocked Up Teenage Daughter. . .
– we want change, but I can’t remember what it is, so let’s ask Obama
– All Americans are White People.

Did I capture it all?

4 09 2008
KS

remember all the affection barack and michelle always show each other everytime they’re on stage together? mccain and cindy aren’t even close. what a disconnect those two show.

4 09 2008
yourinfo

@KS

KS (19:14:46) :

let’s all meet here again for the debates! ooooh, i cannot wait.

KS you have a date…I would not miss it for anything in the world…we are all a family…like Obama/Biden say’s…

We will be here for then and many more days in future…until we get those scary people out of office…and send the other two home…

4 09 2008
J T

The way Cindy was smiling when he mentioned what a “great” first lady she would be…I bet she really really wants to be first lady. She was always able to buy John what he wanted, now it is his turn to get her what she wants. First Lady.

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

REPOST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME!!! LMAO

Jennifer (19:15:06) :

Interesting – the lyrics to Barracuda go, in part:

“And if the real thing won’t do the trick
You better make up something quick…”

Freudian slip? Or no one bothered to vet the song properly?

4 09 2008
halcrow

McCain (did you know that Mccain was a POW?) and his minders staged a funeral and other heart-tugging video segments using fake soldiers?

There’s no shortage of real funerals for served-in-Iraqi American soldiers, but they’re not mawkish enough and they had to hire Actors Guild members!!

And read the comments (This should not be surprising to anyone. The Republicans have out-sourced the Military with contractors- so why would they not out-source a Military Funeral with actors).

Maybe the War in Iraq is as real as the WMDs; just an on-TV ploy to cover up the looting of the treasury to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.

4 09 2008
Shorebird

Vote Obama-Biden…vote to protect the future of this nation.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

What happened to the Country First theme?

4 09 2008
protus

One thing for certain all three night were not the same message….

Night 1 = we hate you

Night 2 = We hate Obama

Night 3 = We hate the world.

4 09 2008
DS

Cindy stays back because he smell of mothballs.

4 09 2008
swineprincess

NNNNNOOOOO!!! I LOVE THIS SONG… make ’em stooooopppppp!!!!!!

4 09 2008
bwilder

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Thursday, Sep 4, 2008

The two party conventions showcased vastly different directions for our country. Senator Obama and Senator Biden offered the new ideas and positive change America needs and deserves after eight years of failed Republican leadership. Senator McCain and Governor Palin do not.

After listening to all the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families, provide quality affordable health care for all Americans, guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, restore our nation’s leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces. So, to slightly amend my comments from Denver: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN.

4 09 2008
curveball

Did you see the faces of most of the people in the audience. They looked like they needed puke bags.

4 09 2008
nunya

Mudflats, you deserve a gold medal for doing this!!!

4 09 2008
Bea

Just donated $50! I can’t really afford it (already donated four times in the last month), but this is an INVESTMENT in our country’s future!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

oh, and let’s not forget the education and the diversity in spelling – MAVRICK will go right down there with NEW-KLEERE

4 09 2008
DemsAreNotAfraid

Hmmm – now it’s “Centerfield” by John Fogerty. Is he really a Republican?

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Thursday, Sep 4, 2008

The two party conventions showcased vastly different directions for our country. Senator Obama and Senator Biden offered the new ideas and positive change America needs and deserves after eight years of failed Republican leadership. Senator McCain and Governor Palin do not.

After listening to all the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families, provide quality affordable health care for all Americans, guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, restore our nation’s leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces. So, to slightly amend my comments from Denver: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN

4 09 2008
Stacie B

I don’t know what is more disgusting listening to McCain/Palin or the media’s post coverage of their speeches. PUCK!

4 09 2008
USABarbie

One more time for those who checked in later….Please pass this on.

You want to talk QUALIFICATIONS???

1980 – 1984

Obama: B.A. in political science with a specialization in international relations from Columbia University.

Palin: Wasilla High School, captain of the state-champion basketball team. Miss Wasilla, runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, also Miss Congeniality, although that is now disputed.

Him: Ivy League degree.
Her: Tiara.

1985 – 1990

Obama: moved to Chicago; became a community organizer as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization on Chicago’s far South Side. During his three years as the DCP’s director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants’ rights organization.

Moved to Boston to attend Harvard Law School. Selected as an editor and then elected president of the Harvard Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review’s staff of 80 editors.

Palin: Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, with a minor in political science from the University of Idaho. Brief stint as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations; left to join her husband in commercial fishing.

Him: Sterling legal education.
Her: Sportscaster.

1991 – 1995

Obama: Graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School; received contract and advance to write a book (“Dreams from my Father”) as well as a fellowship at the University of Chicago Law School. Directed the Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain’s Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of “40 under Forty” powers to be. Appointed as a Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Active in several community organizations, usually as a board member.

Palin: member of the Alasaka Independence Party which advocates “Alaska First”. Elected to Wasilla city council.

Him: Expert on our nation’s fundamental legal principles.

Her: Plotted to leave the Union; thinks Pledge of Allegiance was written by our founding fathers, doesn’t know what a Vice President does.

1996 – 2000

Obama: Promoted to Senior Lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. Elected to the Illinois Senate. Sponsored more than 800 bills. In 2000, lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.

Palin: elected as mayor of Wasilla (population 5,470), defeating the incumbent by a total of 616 votes to 413. Town budget, $8 million (3 millionths of the Federal budget), approximately 100 employees. Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. Fired the Wasilla police chief, citing a failure to support her administration. (He then sued Palin on the grounds that he was fired because he supported the campaign of Palin’s opponent, but his suit was dismissed when the judge ruled that Palin had the right under state law to fire city employees, even for political reasons.) Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. Wasilla had zero debt when she entered office but she left it with indebtedness of over $22 million, including $15 million-plus for construction of a hockey center which was built on a piece of property that the city didn’t even have clear title to, a matter that is still in litigation. Attempted to ban books from the city library.

Him: Sponsored 800 bills.
Her: Swayed 616 voters.

2001 – 2004

Obama: Reelected in 2002 and became chairman of the Illinois Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee.

Publicly spoke out against the invasion of Iraq BEFORE the congressional authorization in 2002, and then again before the actual invasion in 2003.

Wrote and delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

November 2004: elected to the US Senate, receiving over 3.5 million votes, more than 70% of total.

Palin: elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. Unsuccessful bid for lieutenant governor, coming in second in a five-way race in the Republican primary, receiving 19,000 votes. Appointed to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, served as chairman from 2003 to 2004 and also served as Ethics Supervisor. Resigned in protest over the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members. Exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, for doing party work on public time and working closely with a company he was supposed to be regulating. Director of Ted Stevens’ 527 group.

Him: Demonstrated the wisdom to oppose the Iraq folly before it even began.

Her: Hasn’t “really thought much about Iraq” – despite the fact that 17 Alaskans have died there

2005 to present

Obama: Sworn in as the fifth-ever African-American U.S. senator. Worked with Republican Senator Lugar to author and implement a program to locate and dismantle stray Russian WMD’s. Designated by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the party’s point man on ethics. Worked with Russ Feingold to pass a major ethics/lobbying reform bill. Cosponsored, with John McCain, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3 percent every year for 15 years). Assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Veterans’ Affairs, and Homeland Security. Chairman of the Senate’s subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. Waged a tremendous battle to become the Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month.

Palin: 2005: Board member, Valley Hospital Association, which runs the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.

Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50.
Auctioned off the Governor’s jet on eBay. Took on fellow-Republican Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska. Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil and gas development in the bears’ habitat. Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. Supported abstinence-only education. Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska’s Public Safety Commissioner. Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard, but has played no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. (The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.)

Obtained her first passport in 2007 to perform visits to the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait and Germany. (Foreign experience so limited that a stopover in Ireland listed on her resume.)

Him: Impressive figure on the national stage who knows how Congress works and is engaged with foreign policy issues.

Her: small state governor for 21 months; “next to Russia”, but that is just 1 of the 190 countries in the world she has never been to.

Conclusion: the word “executive” is not some kind of magic force multiplier when placed in front of the word “experience”. Especially when that “executive experience” is of less than 700,000 people, the approximate size of Fort Worth, Texas.

4 09 2008
Mikal

OMG I really think I’m hearing SARAH PALIN FOR PRESIDENT … how in the universe has this happened? Neo-Nazi for sure.
Is this all about her?
I’ve met her, conversed with her and was so totally turned off then … I am so blown away.
HELP!!!!!!!
Well .. maybe her head will explode before anything manifests.
By the way .. can Mrs. Todd read?
Uggghhhhhhh.

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

protus (19:19:50), great three day recap! You nailed it.

4 09 2008
Gina

Thanks again, everyone. Good night.

4 09 2008
protus

NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN.

You go girl!!

4 09 2008
Just a thought...

bugged by something – does palin have an intense dislike for mccain? for two nights it’s as if she can’t get far enough away from him.

just a thought…

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

I can’t imagine that was the speech of a future president.

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Plwalsh (19:19:39) :

What happened to the Country First theme?
____________________________

Did they have to amend that with Palin on the ticket? Just askin’

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

Huckabee on Stewart….

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Oh no! He’s probably been groping her!

4 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Donating again!

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Ridge just said “…because John McBush…” HAHAHAHA

4 09 2008
Tammy

Omg, Ridge is on msnbc and just said John Bush. Even he can’t tell them apart.

4 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

what was his plan? I just didn’t hear any substance to how he was going to help people

4 09 2008
Oy vey!

At least he’s funny…

4 09 2008
nunya

Mybad. I humbly apologize. Thine name is AKMuckraker.

4 09 2008
Sue

Tom Ridge just called McCain “John Bush” – you gotta love it.

4 09 2008
protus

lmao McBush!!!! now thats a classic.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

It would be a capper to this campaign if Palin ending up suing McCain for sexual harrassment.

4 09 2008
Robert

I saw him speak a couple years ago at the New School… I fell asleep then too. In all honesty good guy, but….

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Palin is no dummy – she is separating herself away from him. She seemed mighty calm tonight.

4 09 2008
Les

Anybody catch the sorry oil buddies but I have to get elected look McCain had when he said electric cars.

Kudos to that IVAW vet with the sign about McCain’s voting record concerning veterans.

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

Just a thought… (19:22:25) :

bugged by something – does palin have an intense dislike for mccain? for two nights it’s as if she can’t get far enough away from him.

just a thought…
——————————-

I know she did not support him in the AK primary. Was it Ron Paul she supported?

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Oh no! Ridge will NEVER live that one down!

4 09 2008
KS

honestly, i just really feel kinda sorry for republicans, both in the convention hall tonight and in general. I mean, really, I’m serious. i’m not kidding. From the day McCain became their presumptive repubican candidate, it was sad and comical at the same time. I kept thinking, “that’s the best they could do?” daaaaaaammn. and to watch them act so “excited” about him. They must be going home thinking privately to themselves, uugghh that’s was kinda boring. 😦

4 09 2008
Tammy

Maybe he has put the move on her.

4 09 2008
Ky

OMG, how can anyone say this speech was better than Obama’s?! o.0
People in the audience were CRYING during Obama’s speech. They were YAWNING during McCain’s!

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

Have no fear, folks. Rudy said it best many months ago:

“Whoever gets the Republican nomination has a snowball’s chance in Hell of getting elected.”

4 09 2008
protus

OK check for some live votes I know they are coming.

4 09 2008
sosad

all about us ???together ??? he should not have let that viper palin spew venom yesterday if that was true .. She’s vile !!! makes me sick ,,, the way her lower lip rides up over her top row of teeth ,,, then you here guys say she’s hot ,, frick no ,, now how no way ,, I would rather whack off with a hand full of fire ants than do her ..

4 09 2008
protus
4 09 2008
Oy vey!

I gotta go to sleep…I need my strength to start campaigning for Obama in the morning.

You guys had better be here for the debates or I’ll be really, really mad!

4 09 2008
Bea

USA Barbie– I hope you don’t mind if I cut and paste your EXCELLENT comparison EVERYWHERE!!!

4 09 2008
ChuckFree

I sure hope Earth, Wind & Fire stops them from using “September”! Okay folks, it’s on! Two months to Election Day! Get out the word, donate whatever you can in terms of money and time. WE MUST DEFEAT THIS ENEMY!

4 09 2008
Suzi in Chicago

Oh yes, and what would the right wing neo-con nut jobs have to say if one of Obama’s daughters turned up pregant?

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

OK. Here’s the lyrics. let’s have some depth psychology and divining on this like Queequeg reading the bones cast out onto the deck of the Pequod.

Barracuda

So this aint the end –
I saw you again today
I had to turn my heart away
Smiled like the sun –
Kisses for real
And tales – it never fails!

You lying so low in the weeds
I bet you gonna ambush me
Youd have me down down down down on my knees
Now wouldnt you, barracuda?

Back over time we were all
Trying for free
You met the porpoise and me
No right no wrong, selling a song-
A name, whisper game.

If the real thing dont do the trick
You better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooh, barracuda?

Sell me sell you the porpoise said
Dive down deep down to save my head
You…i think you got the blues too.

All that night and all the next
Swam without looking back
Made for the western pools – silly fools!

If the real thing dont do the trick
No, you better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooohhhh, barra barracuda.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

We have no idea what has been going on behind the scenes this last week. After all, they didn’t know each other before last Friday and now they are glued together for two months.

Remember the kind of things McCain has said to his own wife?

4 09 2008
protus

sosad (19:27:48) :

all about us ???together ??? he should not have let that viper palin spew venom yesterday if that was true .. She’s vile !!! makes me sick ,,, the way her lower lip rides up over her top row of teeth ,,, then you here guys say she’s hot ,, frick no ,, now how no way ,, I would rather whack off with a hand full of fire ants than do her ..”

WIN!!!!😀

4 09 2008
yourinfo

Proud2BUSA (19:18:41) :

Let’s recap, shall we?

I did not see or want to see the speech…I did turn to the channel just before he finished up…

But based on your Recap…I did not have to see it…but the last few minutes I heard him repeating alot of “Obama Message”

Well mudflats family…the republican will steal votes..they will steal your ideals like McCain did tonight…using Obama Ideals…they will steal whatever they can get by telling lies..and more lies…

But they also want to steal our minds to think for ourself…they want ever brainwash me…those people look like “Stafford People” from out of space…

These have no sleep and stomach hurting two days…thank God it is over…

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

read my lipstick????? Oh NO, these Female Republicans are really scary – again, they remind me of the Nazi wives. Only white people – I do like the idea of Anderson getting a French Manicure. Knew we couldn’t get away from discussing a woman’s lipstick, manicure, and the like.

4 09 2008
Jennifer

Ha, thanks Ana Gama!

I’m the daughter of a vet who served in Vietnam as a navigator in the Air Force. You know what *I* think is unpatriotic? Sending off brave soldiers to die like sitting ducks in a carnival gallery. Over four thousand of them! We’ve created a virtual locus for terrorists to congregate, and they will continue to come out of the surrounding woodwork in limitless numbers.

Isn’t that the *epitome* of politically self-serving disregard for our patriotic men and women’s willingness to protect and serve? The Republicans are a bunch of cowardly (expletives).

I can’t even bring myself to call this a “war” because that’s not what it is. It’s an occupation, built upon a lie and perpetrated for political gain. That’s despicable and morally reprehensible.

4 09 2008
sosad

AAPR rally is what is was ,, (sorry old people) if hip replacements made noise there would have been a roar from the crowd

4 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Feel much better! Go Obama/Biden 08

4 09 2008
sosad

McWarpig had to vote for the war so he could support the surge

4 09 2008
protus

I think they are all closet democrats.😀

which explains them trying to steal our message.😉

4 09 2008
Catherine

Just found your blog and I love it already.

Haven’t voted in years and have never contributed to a campaign, but I’m going to have to send some money to the Obama campaign. No way do I want an airheaded flake of a woman as the president of this country if McCain kicks the bucket – and I live in Michigan, which is close to Canada, so I have as much international experience as she does.

Kudos to you for suffering through this so I didn’t have to. I sincerely hope you aren’t traumatized long-term.

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

WAIT WAIT

He said they are soul-mates! I know we have that on tape somewhere!

4 09 2008
jack

mavrick it is.
But new-kleere makes a change from nuke-you-lar. I hate to agree with McC on anything, but I’m with him on the pronunciation. Not that I ever want him within groping distance of the button.

Did you know he is a former POW?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

LOLOLOLOL!!! Anderson Cooper just admitted that “…we have some rhythmically challenged Republicans here this evening….”

4 09 2008
Ada

I didn’t watch the speech but what’s up with the empty seats? What’s going on?

4 09 2008
USABarbie

Bea, by all means take it viral. I actually didn’t write it but found it on Huff Post. However, I live in Illinois and Obama is my senator. It’s all true and available to the public.

On a side note, Obama’s senate campaign office was in my office building in downtown Chicago. I met him long before he ran for president. He’s the real deal. It’s a shame people spread such crap about him. Must be envy.

4 09 2008
Bystander

DemsAreNotAfraid,

There should (or probably will be soon enough) a set list with notes on whether permission was granted, cease and desist letters were sent, etc.

But, hey, copyright law is evolving.😛

4 09 2008
Bill

I do enjoy your blog. You must be thanking fate/Zarathrustra/Gaia for making you the top blog in the country following McCain’s big time quick draw challenge!

4 09 2008
Tammy

Ada I believe even diehard republicans didn’t want to hear him speak. They probably went to a bar.

4 09 2008
swineprincess

tonight i am actually glad I am unemployed — I am going to my Obama office in the morning to make phone calls… Thank you GeeDubya for screwing up the economy so badly that I have time to volunteer to get the Good Guys elected. ‘night folks see ya at the debates! (or before since i am now powerless over Mudflats…etc…)

4 09 2008
BobbyG

Game on. Time to take these dangerously naive and deluded people down.

4 09 2008
Shorebird

The image of the CNN staff all taking pictures of Obama while he spoke will stay in my mind and heart. Witnesses to history. Let’s work hard to make sure they get to take another picture at the inauguration of President Obama.

4 09 2008
protus

OH I can give you the recap.

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4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

You’re right, Jack. My Bad. Did you know that McCain was a POW and from the sound of it, he believes that you too (!) can be a POW based on his diatribe and isolationist approach toward the Middle East, Russia and I think he had a senior moment because he forgot about China. Do any of you think it’s interesting that for YEARS the Republicans have blasted the Hispanics and the borders, and none of that was mentioned this evening. Maybe it was because it was all about war, war, war….shoot me a little botox…..war, war, war……

4 09 2008
Nebalaskan

The pin Sarah is wearing is a “son in service” pin. These haven’t been much displayed since ww2. I think its notable that it seems the whole family is wearing them (Levi included). I think its odd that these pins from the 1940’s are displayed now. Never really noticed one on Sarah before. It seems like they are saying “hey, he who has the most pins wins”. Just another weird little thing to add to a very weird week.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

You forgot the part where he talked about being a POW.

4 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

Ada

I couldn’t bring myself to watch it…I just had to read the post of what’s going on!

Basically: McCain is a POW, and he wants to continue another 4 more years of Bush!

Of course, there is Cindy Lou, Sarah Plain, and her showcases!

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

You know what is particularly hilarious about the Ridge goof “John Bush” …

At the end, Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews were talking about the speech from the context of McCain getting a divorce from Bush! And they said he was successful in that regard.

LMAO

4 09 2008
jboone

Jeffrey Toobin on CNN just said McCain’s speech was “shockingly bad,” and “the worst acceptance speech by a presidential nominee since Jimmy Carter.” nicely put. (but hey, stop hatin’ on Carter!)

4 09 2008
Tammy

I am assuming the infrastructure wasn’t mentioned at all.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Chuck Todd just called McCain’s speech “shockingly bad” on CNN, The worst acceptance speech since Carter in ’80.

4 09 2008
deuce2

John got to go home because he wasn’t needed anymore. He had spilled his
guts by then. Damn Sissy.

4 09 2008
Polly

Ana Gama -I noticed that too (Palin and arm distancing McCain)…! And thought of two things. 1.) He may be a flirty geezer with her, so she is sick internally. 2.) She can see through his facade, but is now in over her head.

And I also wonder – Palin is an Alaskan at heart and no matter her political ambitions, she may just get turned-off on all these higher stake games, not so much for her value system but because she won’t be top dog (pitbull).

Big fish small pond in AK, to the small fish in the big pond.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

REMIND OLBERMAN AND MATTHEWS THAT MCCAIN VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF THE TIME. . . . THERE IS ANOTHER SAYING FROM THE VIETNAM ERA: WE WILL NOT FORGET. WE WILL NOT FORGET JOHN MCCAIN’S VOTING RECORD.

4 09 2008
protus
4 09 2008
Micheal Garza

YES!!! Finally someone at the “liberal media” CNN has it right! Jeff Toobin just said that this was the worst speech that he’s heard by someone since Jimmy Carter. That it was boring. “Shockingly bad.”

4 09 2008
trixiebelden

i know that oldies certainly like to talk about their injuries and medical problems. but as a daughter of an ex-POW (and for longer than botoxman), i must say i’m surprised that the old boy likes to talk about his experiences quite so much. my father was SILENT always. i figured it was because of the trauma. people don’t generally want to revisit it.
i’ll watch his performance later, when the sun’s over the yardarm (i’m in australia) and i have a triple vodka in hand. sounds like i’ll need it.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

That’s it – I just had to donate to Obama one more time tonight! I can’t afford any mor Republican speeches! Thanks for the great company.

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

Barricuda. Things of the sea. Yes. “Moby Dick” is the feel of it.

McCain is Ahab. Palin is his Tashtego. God I love Melville. They used it all brilliantly in the ending of “O Brother Where Art Thou?”

We are living in Archetypal Times. God help us.

“The harpoon was darted; the stricken whale flew forward; with igniting velocity the line ran through the grooves;- ran foul. Ahab stooped to clear it; he did clear it; but the flying turn caught him round the neck, and voicelessly as Turkish mutes bowstring their victim, he was shot out of the boat, ere the crew knew he was gone. Next instant, the heavy eye-splice in the rope’s final end flew out of the stark-empty tub, knocked down an oarsman, and smiting the sea, disappeared in its depths.

For an instant, the tranced boat’s crew stood still; then turned. “The ship? Great God, where is the ship?” Soon they through dim, bewildering mediums saw her sidelong fading phantom, as in the gaseous Fata Morgana; only the uppermost masts out of water; while fixed by infatuation, or fidelity, or fate, to their once lofty perches, the pagan harpooneers still maintained their sinking look-outs on the sea. And now, concentric circles seized the lone boat itself, and all its crew, and each floating oar, and every lancepole, and spinning, animate and inanimate, all round and round in one vortex, carried the smallest chip of the Pequod out of sight.

But as the last whelmings intermixingly poured themselves over the sunken head of the Indian at the mainmast, leaving a few inches of the erect spar yet visible, together with long streaming yards of the flag, which calmly undulated, with ironical coincidings, over the destroying billows they almost touched;- at that instant, a red arm and a hammer hovered backwardly uplifted in the open air, in the act of nailing the flag faster and yet faster to the subsiding spar. A sky-hawk that tauntingly had followed the main-truck downwards from its natural home among the stars, pecking at the flag, and incommoding Tashtego there; this bird now chanced to intercept its broad fluttering wing between the hammer and the wood; and simultaneously feeling that etherial thrill, the submerged savage beneath, in his death-gasp, kept his hammer frozen there; and so the bird of heaven, with archangelic shrieks, and his imperial beak thrust upwards, and his whole captive form folded in the flag of Ahab, went down with his ship, which, like Satan, would not sink to hell till she had dragged a living part of heaven along with her, and helmeted herself with it.

Now small fowls flew screaming over the yet yawning gulf; a sullen white surf beat against its steep sides; then all collapsed, and the great shroud of the sea rolled on as it rolled five thousand years ago.”

4 09 2008
JSter

If the repubs are so expert on security, how did the Code Pinks get in? Can’t Big John keep us safe?

Perhaps the baby has been drugged all this time. Sure looks that way. Wouldn’t want any crying.

With Roberta’s voice closing the video, one wonders if John is still her “mama’s boy”. Scary!

4 09 2008
raingods

Well I posted my thoughts on his speech on my blog. If anyone’s interested in reading it, click on my nickname. I mostly deal with what are called by Brian Keene the Legion of Nitwits-up until tonight a select group of 3 of the most wretched writers in the world today-and they don’t know it-so Mccain and Palin fit right in.

4 09 2008
AnneinWA

That’s it – I just had to donate to Obama one more time tonight! I can’t afford any more Republican speeches! Thanks for the great company.

4 09 2008
Austin

Someone mentioned above that Cindy really wanted to be First Lady.

I soooooooooooo agree. She’s started dressing all Jackie O lately. It’s a little upsetting because she is certainly no Hillary Clinton, no Jackie O, she’s not even a Laura Bush.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

i don’t think that baby is real. . . i think that baby is a prop. i think Angelina Jolie flew in and rescued the poor thing (thanks to Letterman)

4 09 2008
Harley

@usabarbie

I have posted your very informative post in reply to First Read
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/04/1351761.aspx
Hillary: No way to McCain-Palin

You asked to pass it on….what better way to get it out there!

It has not been made available yet however

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

That speech was SO bad!

I remember that Carter speech. The highpoint was when he called Hubert Humphrey “Hubert Horatio Hornblower.”

4 09 2008
sosad

infrastructure ?? oops , border ? oops ,china ? oops , health care (real) oops

4 09 2008
halcrow

Thank you, folks, for the reality-based lively comment.

IMO, the RNC tonight was like watching the much-awaited return of the seniors from Cocoon. Unfortunately, the Antereans sold them a bill of goods…the rejuvenation didn’t last (did you know that McCain was a POW on an alien spaceship in 1985?).

They did get ill, they did grow old…but they don’t seem ready to die.

4 09 2008
J T

I like Laura Bush, don’t understand what she sees in her hubby.

4 09 2008
curveball

McStupid
McPlainstupid….

4 09 2008
PalinGate

Everybody – thank you for the wonderful comments on the video! Kudos to Mudflats for getting the word out! Mudflats is my information superhighway!

Barack Obama has a fundraising campaign in support of community organizers. If you have even a few dollars you can donate, please do:

http://my.barackobama.com/facesofchange

Also, Please watch my new YouTube video in support of some of our greatest community organizers throughout history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkhtMY2io4

4 09 2008
Mickey

(applauding wildy) I **LOVED** this!! I could only stomach about 20 minutes of this drooling goat before I left to find more palatable company on the Tubes.

Thank you for the synopsis – it was much, much more entertaining than the real thing was, I’m sure. Bless you, sir, for your selfless service to your fellow citizens.

4 09 2008
sosad

Carter Rocks ,, I would be proud to be able to do a tenth of what he does ,,,
never mind , he’s a community organizer

4 09 2008
wait. what?

You Alaskans need to asK the AK Dept of Human Services to remove that baby from their care. Good. God. ALmighty. This is sick.

Sarah is right out of The Handmaidens Tale.

4 09 2008
Tammy

trixiebelden I know my dad was in WW2 and Korean War. He wasn’t a POW. But he did have some injuries. He never ever talked about it. Didn’t even talk about the war period.

4 09 2008
OBXPHX

read my lipstick.
may i vomit now?

4 09 2008
Jennifer

“IMO, the RNC tonight was like watching the much-awaited return of the seniors from Cocoon….”

Thank you, Halcrow, for a big guffaw to end the evening with!

4 09 2008
sosad

CRAP ,, I am missing “real” politics ,, big brother is on .. (ha)

4 09 2008
Trudger

Vanity Fair reports that Cindy McCain’s ensemble last night was worth $300,000.

http://blog.mlive.com/newblack/2008/09/cindy_mccains_costly_duds_and.html

The Obamas are elitists?

4 09 2008
Ky

trixiebelden,
I totally agree! My grandmother lived at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked, right before her her 8th birthday. Neither she or her father (who was in the Navy) ever talked about that time.

4 09 2008
Austin

An Alaskan delegate just said that McCain was “called to lead the nation.” I thought he wasn’t answering a call…..

4 09 2008
Ky

Ralph Seekins doesn’t look so hot.

4 09 2008
4 09 2008
akmuckraker

mujeralta,
Yes!

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

Not talking about the war was common with WWII vets. I think everyone was so glad it was behind them.

4 09 2008
Susan in Atl

AKMuckraker,

Please…you just have to tell us…how many hits are you getting per day?😉

To everyone else: This from the Washington Post may make you happy:

“Neil Newhouse, a Republican pollster, said McCain must pitch his general-election message to disaffected Democrats and independents. ‘More than 35 percent of McCain’s votes have to come from ‘Bush disapprovers’ for him to win,’ he said.”

And this: “”We actually have to go find votes because right now if the election were held today we probably don’t have as many votes as Barack Obama,” Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign manager, told Washington Post reporters and editors on Tuesday.” This was before the RNC and they may see a small bounce but it would have to be a huge reversal of many to make much of a change.

So cheers!

Wash Post

4 09 2008
Rob in Florida

…I just donated again….if you feel the urge, do the same…

That said, I understand that Obama does not want to get dragged down in the mud by responding tit for tat (no pun intended) to Palin’s speech. But there does need to be some form of setting the record straight – even if it’s in the form of an ad – that corrects all the flat out lies and exposes the hypocrisies in her speech. This is especially needed when the truth is on Obama’s side. The fact is some people do want to see some type of “fight” in a candidate. I’m not one of them but, I just thought that a more forceful response to the verbal diarrhea we heard last night would go a long way in showing some of those on the fence that Obama is a leader who can show (the appearance of ) strength when called upon to do so.

Anyway….as stated here many times, thanks to this wonderful blog for keeping me sane. It’s almost like an alternate universe hearing how outwardly normal people, are falling under Palin’s spell. It’s nice to come here and realize – there are rational, thoughtful, non-racist, forward looking, truly patriotic people left in this country.

4 09 2008
Parker CA

Hillary is going to FL on Monday. She is ready to fight for this one until the end.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

John King’s electoral college analysis on CNN looks REALY bad for McCain.

4 09 2008
Ana Gama

I hear Hillary is doing the PA, OH and MI swing, too!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

USA BARBIE –

Why don’t we compare Obama to McCain? McCain (the POW, remember?) graduated at the bottom of his class (actually I think it was 5th to last). His Daddy and Granddaddy were both admirals so they had to get him his first gig. There is a lot of questionable activities during his Vietnam War days – my dad who is a Korean War vet knows a lot of these stories from his cronies. During this time, his first wife stayed by his side while McCain slept around with Billionaire Barbie. He finally made an honest woman of her after wife #1 went away, and her daddy set him up as an PR executive. . .now Obama was raised by a single mother, graduated top of his class at Harvard Law, became a community organizer and met and married Michelle. Palin is no Obama.

I think I am going to become Appalachia White Trash Barbie – will that be okay with y’all?

4 09 2008
Joe Lang

HOLY FREAKING CRAP!

I thought I was getting here relatively early and there’s over 700 FREAKING COMMENTS ON THIS POST!!!

Akmuckraker, you are my hero! I’ve just stumbled onto this blog in the last few days and it rocks some serious rocking rock stuff!

Very enjoyable read, always entertaining. Thank you very much.

I can’t stand listening to him, (McCain), talk about how he was tortured, P.O.W., blah blah blah and thinking about how he voted against limiting the CIA’s ability to use coercive interrogation techniques. Fah! I used to have some respect for McCain, but after that I wouldn’t vote for him if he was the last lying, abusive, manipulative, money grubbing, wife disrespecting, disingenuous, parasitic, George Bush hugging, Neocon Republican son of a bitch on the face of the earth.

As for Sarah Palin, if I were her and McCain had chosen me, I would have looked at him like he was nuts and said, “Why, on God’s green earth, would you do that??!!”

Ah, well. Just another day in La La Land.

-J Lang

4 09 2008
yourinfo

I am listing to calls on c-span to the response to McCain speech…

The Republicans are trying to steal “Obama Message”

Tonight I have heard republicans mention “unity” and how can they say “unity”

They know “Obama Message” is the right one…so now they want to steal it…these people they have no shame…they think it okay to steal a person message and ideals…but first they must try to be-little him…

They are people that can be trusted … even if you are looking at them…

Sad…

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

You forgot McCain’s prep school days, when he was a considered a total jerk, and left out that his first wife was recovering from a serious auto accident when he was fooling around with other women.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Rob in FLA – I’ll get serious here for a moment. I agree with you 100%. The challenge for many of us who are deeply invested in the politics is that we have millions more who are not tuning in to hear the various speeches and so the only information they receive is the soundbites from the ads and any other short soundbites from speeches. We have to set the record straight. The RNC gave us a plethora of opportunities – we need to seize them and fast. We only have 60 days.

4 09 2008
DS

Palin keeps a good distance from McCain. Maybe he groped her. Or gave her that scary little winkie-winkie he does. Todd looks like the type who would bust a guy’s jaw over something like that.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Did McCain forget that he IS THE STATUS QUO? OW – this is a “…speech that George Bush could have given?” NOW THAT NEEDS TO BE USED IN OBAMA’S ADS.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

McCain’s speech is getting REALLY BAD reviews on Larry King.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

DS:

Did you see the Youtube clip of McCain oggling Palin’s behind while she was speaking in Dayton?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

the other thing I disagree with: Obama is a hero. Any child who can lift himself up the way he has (and Bill Clinton, too!) should be considered a hero and example to others. One can be a Patriot without being a POW.

4 09 2008
protus

Ok guys now it starts!!

Gloves off and lets get to the as ole shrub would say ‘Hard Work’ thats needs to be done.

They had their fun and tried to shield their precious pretty palin and blame the whole world for all their short comings.

Now is the time to take this fight right to them and knock them on their asses.

As The Hill said.

No Way!! No How!!! No McCain-Palin!!!!

Fight on! Obama/Biden 08!

4 09 2008
Susan in Atl

Rob in Florida said:

I just thought that a more forceful response to the verbal diarrhea we heard last night would go a long way in showing some of those on the fence that Obama is a leader who can show (the appearance of ) strength when called upon to do so.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Rob. I watched Part 1 of Obama on O’Reilly and I would have liked to see him spell it out. He started gaining momentum towards the end but he needs to just lay it on the line. Just say it, “No, I do not think PREPARING for war with Iran is productive and here’s why….” It was obvious that’s what he meant but came across like he was trying to hide it. Just say it and sell it.

He also said (rightly), that let’s be clear, “I will never hesitate to protect America if our shores are attacked.” And doing the equivilent of driving up tanks to the Iran border and pushing for a response is not the same thing or productive.

My mother later told me the exact same thing….she wished he would be more forceful.

Please weigh in on your opinion. And Obama’s people: if you’re out there….tell him to stand his ground….be strong….no more dems acting weak (sorry hardcore Dems but that’s how I often see them and most all other Independents like me).

What do you all think?

4 09 2008
Cassie

Wasn’t Mother Teresa a “community organizer”? Or was that before she did (not) personally invite Cindy to take a child? What happened to the other child Cindy brought back?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

NO MORE PAIN. NO MORE MCCAIN.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Who would y’all have to play the McCains and Palins in Movie of the Week? I bet you dollars to doughnuts, this will be a movie one day.

4 09 2008
Susan in Atl

From my earlier post:

And doing the equivilent of driving up tanks to the Iran border and pushing for a response is not the same thing or productive.

Those were MY words.

4 09 2008
tad

its beem great spending these past two nights here, I was refreshing this page every few minutes to read comments…….thanks for a great blog….see you all soon…..debates for sure.

4 09 2008
CHCH

Note to Biden prep team: please have Biden practice with babes on par with Palin.

As a woman in an all male, combative profession, I can report that men have a tough time confronting women. They are hardwired to flirt. O’Reilly batted his eyes at Hillary.

It’s biology.

And for heaven’s sake, don’t let him treat her like his daughter. He is already struggling with that with Obama. O Biden! Practice the body language!

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

Susan in Atla – I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s one of the reasons I couldn’t get behind Barack in the Primaries. I knew where Hillary stood. I understood Huckabee’s position. I know McCain’s voting record and after 30 years, I can’t imagine that changing much. Barack has to come out with specifics and he has to do it NOW.

4 09 2008
Diva

Caribou Barbie- from Stephanie Miller Show

Cindy McCain:

Fembot Barbie?
Beer-Heiress Barbie?
Homewrecker Barbie?

or

POW Barbie?

4 09 2008
TH-WV

USABarbie (18:28:00) , Do you have a link for this? I would love to link to it as my signature on all my out going e-mails.

4 09 2008
nunya

Proud2BUSA
“Who would y’all have to play the McCains and Palins in Movie of the Week? I bet you dollars to doughnuts, this will be a movie one day.”

hmmmm.

Susan Lucci and Mike Meyers?

4 09 2008
Bystander

Oh. My. God. Did anyone else just see the MSNBC shot from the floor with the Utah delegate imitating Gov. Palin? But, no, that wasn’t the strange part. Two ‘ventriloquists’ with McCain hand puppets followed.

No, they weren’t professionals.

I can’t describe how bad it was. And I’m trying to.

Youtube will have it hopefully.

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

LOL – I vote for Homewrecker Barbie. That is just hilarious. thanks for the good laugh for the night. . . thanks to all of you for helping me believe that Americans DO believe in Change.

4 09 2008
Susan in Atl

Proud2BUSA

I lost my post. I hope there’s no duplicate.

Anyway….hi!

I definitely like specifics too but what I meant was that I would like to see Obama come across more FORCEFULLY like Rob said.

Not petty like Palin. But FORCEFULLY STATING HIS POSITION when asked. COMMIT….take a STRONG STAND. No dancing around an answer.

Say it and sell it!

4 09 2008
Ky

Eee!
I was just reading the CNN ticker on tv, and they made the announcement that Obama has raised $10m since Palin’s speech!

4 09 2008
Michigander

We painfully watched the RNC tonight. Finally my husband said what I didn’t know how to say…..McCain has given up his honor in favor of political expediency. My husband said neither are about “country first” they are about their personal political goals first and then he described Palin as shallow “1inch deep and 50 miles wide.”

Yup….thanks Alaska Firsters

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

Has a Daddy-Complex Barbie…ewwwwww!
Stepford Barbie…so true
PTSD By an Abusive Husband Barbie…sad

4 09 2008
numb

Another POW’s take on McCain:
http://therealmccain.com/butler/

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

My Daddy Bought Me a POW Barbie

4 09 2008
Siege

About the distance and the hugging, maybe she is being careful/has been warned to be careful of appearances just because of the male/female ticket.

4 09 2008
tspey

I think McCain should have kept talking. How many people did you count looking around bored? The militaristic theme was a nice touch as well.

Thank you AK Muck for your insight and organization.

Imagine how many votes this site alone has shifted to HObamaPE instead of FEARepublicans.

http://tspey.wordpress.com/

4 09 2008
Diva

Sugar Mama Barbie!

4 09 2008
Deb

I live in Colorado which is currently a “toss-up” state. Unfortunately I can tell you that I have seen more McCain ads here than Obama ads. I keep donating more to help even the playing ground here. McCain just got his big check from the Feds. Support Obama from the “ground” up! PLEASE!!!!

4 09 2008
Diva

Siege (20:27:11) :

About the distance and the hugging, maybe she is being careful/has been warned to be careful of appearances just because of the male/female ticket.

Why didn’t anyone warn HIM?

4 09 2008
Bystander

cnn.com/larry king poll:

Will you vote for John McCain?
Yes 19% 1499
No 81% 6495
Total Votes: 7994
This is not a scientific poll

4 09 2008
BobbyG

I will be canvassing for Obama this weekend. Game on.

4 09 2008
White Agate

Thank heaven that is over with and now we can get on with the real work. AKMuckraker, didn’t you say there will be a taped town meeting in Anchorage on the 15th? Sounds good.

More than sometimes it is amazing, the people who go into politics. So few of them invested in the public good, rather than their own. What is it? Do you just need such a strong personality that everything else is secondary? Is it a chicken-and-egg thing? Dunno, continues to mystify me.

I think the trick for Obama is to be strong without being a bully…unfortunately sound bites and snark play better. Reclaiming the narrative and hammering home the facts have got to be the mantra in the next few months.

Cindy McCain looks really different than she did even a few months ago. She is so thin…I hope she is taking care of herself. Girlfriend doesn’t look right. I’m sure someone covered this already.

Biden just sent an e-mail around.

4 09 2008
bas

This is petty – I know -But everyone wondering about Sara’s hair? It’s a “holy roller” thing. I don’t know why – but you can pick them out in Carrs – you just know it – there must be something in their religion that requires it – they are not supposed to wear makeup either – but she does. Any ex-holy rollers out there that can explain it?

4 09 2008
Ky

Bystander, you beat me to it! =D
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

4 09 2008
Sarah from CA

Did anyone else see the strange facial expressions McCain made during his speech? As if he was thinking, “Oh, yeah, gotta smile here…” [insert awkward smirk]. Sometimes he looked downright uncomfortable. I’d say constipated, but ew.

This was a good speech for a small-town pep rally, where you don’t need to actually state FACTS or BLUEPRINTS FOR YOUR “CHANGE”. But for an RNC speech where he needed to address SPECIFICS? Fail.

As far as I’m concerned, this didn’t do much for his campaign. Right now, any momentum they have is because of Palin’s uber-right-wingedness & snark, which is easy for her to use while hiding behind a Sexism Shield. What a farce.

4 09 2008
TH-WV

If it’s not too late email questions to Larry King live http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.html

4 09 2008
Bystander

from “Destination Alaska. They’re Heee-eere.”

Then there’s progressive talk show icon Ed Schulz. He’s hosting a town hall meeting at the University of Alaska in Anchorage. A thousand Alaskans will cough up between $25 and $100 to stand before the microphone and tell the world exactly what they think of Sarah Palin. The show will be played back on September 15th.

I’d like to hear it.

4 09 2008
deuce2

Go to; move on .org/political action and get your free Obama/Biden sticker.

4 09 2008
misskae

Republicans Lack Heart!

Posted Sep 4th 2008 10:46PM by TMZ Staff

Ann and Nancy Wilson are pissed at the Republican Party and have fired off a cease and desist letter to the McCain/Palin campaign.

Specifically, the Heart women are upset that the GOP has used their classic “Barracuda” as a theme song for Sarah Palin. TMZ obtained a statement from Heart’s rep, who says “The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission.”

The statement goes on: “We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We hope our wishes will be honored.”

We’re told Ann was watching TV today and heard the song at the convention when Palin was touted.

UPDATE: Twenty minutes after we posted this story, the GOP ended the evening after McCain’s speech with the song, “Barracuda.”

Stay tuned.

4 09 2008
Glenn2008

My strongest impression about this speech was to steel Obama’s “change” theme. However, McCain’s change is command driven – he will tell Washington what to do and make them do it. Huge contrast with Obama’s grassroots change. The whole point is that it will depend on people such as community organizers…

Almost forgot I also learned he was a POW.

4 09 2008
Bystander

White Agate,
can the e-mail be posted?

4 09 2008
maya

“My friends, the only cure for those two rancid bottles of snake oil you’ve been forced to drink for the past 8 years, is to buy into my new improved Mavericky snake oil this year. Think of it as kinda like the skin of the snake that bit you. It’ll go down easier”
Dr. Johnny MacPOW

4 09 2008
Terry

Things to remind people when they start to believe John McCain:

George Bush said that he was a uniter not a divider. Said he wanted to reach across the aisle and work together.

John McCain voted in lockstep with Republicans and George Bush.

George H W Bush said “Read my lips: no new taxes.”

Are you really going to believe this guy will be different?

4 09 2008
Let'sGetReal

They will all be decent to her! After she have to come back to the area and I guess, assume her position as Governor, they don’t want to feel the wrath of Pitbull Plain.

4 09 2008
White Agate

Sure.

4 09 2008
BobbyG

From Mother Jones:

Number of sentences in John McCain’s acceptance speech about his experience as a POW in Vietnam: 43.

Number of sentences about his 25 years in the House and Senate: 8.

The convention ended as it began: a commemoration of McCain’s hellish years in a Hanoi prison cell four decades ago. The political equation was a simple one: POW equals patriotic hero equals a fighting president. Before McCain walked down the long runway at St. Paul’s Xcel Center, a baritone voice declared over the P.A., “When you’ve lived in a box….you put your people first.” Case closed…

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9598_mccain_acceptance_speech_republican_convention.html

4 09 2008
Sue

Ed Schultz, the progressive radio talk show host, is coming to Anchorage to have a three hour townhall meeting to discuss Palin and what Alaska folks think of her. He’s going to play a tape of the townhall on his show on Monday, September 15th from 12-3pm Eastern Time. You can look for an affiliate station to listen to the show at this website:
http://www.wegoted.com/listen/index.asp

4 09 2008
BobbyG

LET THE FUN COMMENCE
________________

ST. PAUL, Minn. – The McCain Campaign is denying a supermarket tabloid story alleging that vice presidental candidate Sarah Palin had an extramarital affair, and is threatening legal action against the National Enquirer.

“Its a vicious lie,” John McCain spokesman Steve Schmidt said.

The Enquirer alleges in its Sept. 15 edition that Palin had a fling with a business associate of her husband, Todd Palin. The candidate’s hubby discovered the infidelity and dissolved the business, the article said.

The Enquirer attributed the allegation to “an enemy” of the Alaska governor and many pundits postulated that the tabloid’s source was Palin’s estranged brother-in-law, Mike Wooten. Wooten, who was embroiled in an ugly custody battle with Palin’s sister, claims the governor tried to have him fired from the Alaska state police.

“The smearing of the Palin family must end,” Schmidt said in a statement released yesterday.

The Enquirer, in a web story entitled “Palin War: Teen Preggo Crisis,” claims that Palin planned to have her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, married off to her baby daddy right after the Republican National Convention.

The plan, the paper said, was to announce Bristol’s pregnancy after the wedding. However, the tabloid says the teen refused to go along with the wedding, sparking a “mother-daughter showdown.”

The Enquirer says the Palin camp revealed the pregnancy “hours after The Enquirer informed her representatives and family members of Levi Johnston, the father of Bristol’s child, that we were aware of the pregnancy and were going to break the news.”

The story adds that “The Enquirer has also learned that Palin’s family is embroiled in a vicious war that is now exposing her darkest secrets, threatening to destroy her political career.”

4 09 2008
madbluedog

Yeah, Bystander, I saw the Palin impersonator from Utah – AND the McCain hand-puppets. Ack! The WORST!! They are so playing to the base and rural america. Just continue to donate and volunteer. We made a statement last night – we can do it again!!

4 09 2008
Sarah from CA

Someone on MSN also said John McCain used lines from a speech George W. used in 2000. HHhhhhhhhh!!!! And yet we’re supposed to separate their policies? I wish I’d written the line down when i heard it (unfortunately, I don’t have a laptop!), but if an analyst from MSN could make the connection in 5 minutes, I’m sure Obama’s camp made it, too.

Okay, I’ve spammed enough tonight, sorry, just excited.

Thanks again for this blog, which has turned quite a bulletin board today! (not a bad thing😉

4 09 2008
Bystander

Thanks, Sue, for the link.

4 09 2008
BobbyG

@madbluedog (20:44:04) :
Yeah, Bystander, I saw the Palin impersonator from Utah…
_______

SNL, cue Tina Fey, just like Amy Poler’s Hillary.

4 09 2008
Bystander

Sarah from CA,

I’m sure you saw the facial expression when McCain finished a line with “peace.” No, I’m not making this up.

4 09 2008
Cynthia, TX

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/palin-ak-guard-shortage/

[S]ix months ago, Air Force Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, the Alaska Guard’s top officer, warned in an internal memo that “missions are at risk.” The lack of qualified airmen, Campbell said, “has reached a crisis level.”

4 09 2008
Rhett O'Rical

Bush line from 2000: Education will be a civil right in the new century.

4 09 2008
Bystander

cnn.com/larryking poll:

Will you vote for John McCain?
Yes 22% 3584
No 78% 12776
Total Votes: 16360
This is not a scientific poll

4 09 2008
Bystander

3% shift, after doubling the total votes cast.

4 09 2008
HamletsMill

Good night all. Thank you AKM that you had this blog going when the incredible fate struck. You had a table already set for us up in the Great White North in some kind of huge electronic lodge all ready. We have all found you. I am very grateful for this service you have provided for all of your fellow citizens.

It has been just seven days and we have all met each other on this Blog.

Thank you all Mudflatians!

This is our meeting place in the days ahead.

Thank Almighty God these last two days are over.

I love every one of you fine people!

4 09 2008
mr. whipple

Any AK people care to comment on this?

“Howard Fineman: Palin Taking ‘Timeout’ From Campaign Trail

Wow. Chuck Todd’s reporting was right. Palin is returning to Alaska. No media interviews.

She’s not ready.

Update: I’m updating with video, but while I’m uploading that, here’s some more details. Fineman said he sourced his claim to someone inside the McCain camp who was basically running the campaign. He also said that while the excuse for returning to Alaska is that she was grabbed from there on such short notice, but that the reason is that she still needs more prep time.

This is just incredible. Forget whether or not she’s ready to be president. She’s not even ready to be a candidate for vice president!

This news should (but probably won’t) overshadow McCain’s pathetic speech.”

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/howard-fineman-palin-leaving-c.html

4 09 2008
An AK republican, no more!

RE: Cynthia and the Air National Guard

You are aware that a ship with tourists showed up in Barrow, AK, unannounced. If you don’t know where Barrow is, please look at a map. This is amazing. Read all about it!

http://www.adn.com/news/environment/story/489973.html

4 09 2008
mde

I loved the Wellstone sign in the crowd behind Chris Matthews!

4 09 2008
Camielle

Sorry that I am chiming in so late, I had some internet connection issues. Wow that speech was really horrible. It just shows that speaking is really NOT his strength.
I am glad that Hillary is finally on board because we will need her and Gov. Sebilus (sorry for the mispelling) to get out in places like FL, PA, WI, MI where they think Mean Girl Palin will help them and “connect” with people.
One other thing, I find it ironic that people are so in love with her when they don’t really know anything about her. Obama, & McCain have been campaigning for over a year and the Amerian people still have reservations about them. But after 1 speech, people are reading to hand over the reins of the country to this woman. Without asking any questions about her voting record, what she has actually done to improve her town or her state. That is what I find most incredible about this week. Oh, and the angry, nasty tone of the week and the lack of diversity.

4 09 2008
DS

Jon Stewart making fun of Sarah Palin tonight. Too funny.

4 09 2008
LaughingAt...

i had to drive r/t to baltimore, i had mudflats withdrawal bigtime, by 3 i was on a serious jones.
blah blah palin all day on the radio, and a few tried to tell truths, but its muffled.
then i saw the enquirer and showed it everyone i could find..
they weren’t impressed. oprah cool, jerry springer not so much

then i just heard ben stien on the radio, dissed palin, panned the speech
hates mcsame and repub fiscal policy, but will vote mcsame over CHOICE!
so, if you would sell your country down the hole in order to take away MY rights,
WHO”S THE PATRIOT????????????????????

4 09 2008
Smitty

Thanks for the excellent recap!!! I missed the event due to the Giants/Redskins game followed by the excellent Daily Show & Colbert Report. My priority is to my fantasy football league and this season I selected Eli Manning. Now if the Cowboys saddle up this season, I will be a happy camper

Gawd I love this blog. You will be nominated for “Blog of the Year” . And deservedly so.

You did the dirty work so I didn’t have to be subjected to it. Isn’t there a reality show about “Dirty Jobs”?

4 09 2008
Mil

Oof, I visited my g’ma tonight. She actually thought that Palin’s speech was great. *holds tongue to refrain from laughing and from speaking bad about her elder*

A lot of people are going to be like that though. The blind sheep that watch Fox and listen to Ann Coulter and Jerome Corsi. I know that if she bothered to learn how to use a computer her world would be turned upside down. I know this woman’s values. She would not like what the Republicans are putting out there this election. But she’s just going to listen meekly to the RNC. Kinda sad actually.

4 09 2008
nauseated

Did anyone watch Jon Stewart tonight? The show was brilliant.

4 09 2008
strangelet

@nunya (20:13:10)

good idea, but I think Mike could probably do all four parts, eh?

4 09 2008
whabs

Don’t know if you have heard of Thom Hartmann, but I posted the Community Organizer @ You Tube there. I will post it where ever I can. Thanks for the evening and looking forward to the Debates.

4 09 2008
Mil

Amen on Jon Stewart, and Colbert skewered that blog guy that has been pushing for Plain for since early 2007. That guy didn’t have a chance, lol.

4 09 2008
YummyMudslides

Mil, great news….I asked my 89 year old grandma what she thought of Palin’s speech and she said “She got really boring after awhile”. I said would you vote for her and she said “No”. We got one grandma on our side.

4 09 2008
GH

Just made a donation. Watched about 3/4 of McCain’s speech and couldn’t take it any more. After 2 days of lies, belittling, and insult slinging against Obama, Democrats, liberals, and the media McCain comes out and says can’t we all just get along?

4 09 2008
Camielle

That is exactly why the surrogates like Hillary and the rest have to get out there and begin speaking Obama’s message to the voters.
I really think that Palin is going to have a hard time though because her record is terrible as I continue to learn more and more. Her health care plan for Alaska has not been successful and it turns out that she took $34,000 from medical lobbyist and then implemented their ideas after she was elected to office. Isn’t that the same type of “reform” they are bringing to Washington?

4 09 2008
Proud2BUSA

I’m on the East Coast. It’s 1 AM, and I have had too much caffeine and good humor from you guys to sleep. I’m reading through the posts, just turned off Larry King and Jon Stewart, and am thinking.

We’ve had our fun bashing and smashing the RNC this week. Thank you, Mudflats. You are a Godsend for pulling all us together who a few weeks ago were scratching our heads and asking “…Sarah WHO?…” In a few short weeks, you have educated an army of concerned Americans about the shenanigans of Alaskan politics and I would say in no small part to you that some of these things are coming out now in the mainstream media. We owe you a BIG debt of gratitude.

Tomorrow, I have to go out and start working for my Country’s future which is clearly Barack Obama. I cannot attack, smear or get involved in lowbrow tactics that we have watched the Republicans use this week. I am not going to win voters over with conversations about Palin’s personal family life. I am not going to win voters over with challenging McCain is a war hero, but not the leader we need today. We have to follow our candidate’s lead. We have to speak the facts and have our facts straight. We have to be able to pull the myriad of pieces together (thanks to this site I am much better informed on MANY topics) to help paint a picture that may appeal to the swing voter. It angers me to no end that Rove/Dobson feel it is their calling to tear down our First Ammendment in God’s name. But the reality is I cannot change their minds and only by a clear mandate of the American people over and over and over again will they get the message that THEIR message of hate, judgment, control and arrogance will no longer work with the American People. They are wealthy and well-organized. They will have rebuttals, and will craft their messages to their flock based on guilt, fear, and sin. So, in anticipation, I ask:

1) How we are going to help our homeless and those in need?
2) What are our plans to re-build the economy and jobs?
3) What are our plans to re-building the bridges with our global neighbors since we all admit that globalization is here. This is not the time for isolationism. There is too much at stake that could have centuries of impact.

I heard sarcasm toward community volunteers. I heard that we needed change but from what I am unsure since Bush and the RNC have owned the White House and the Congress for the last 7 years. I heard we would not give and provide to those countries who were not “friends” with us. . . not sure what that meant tonight, but it sounds like Cold War talk. I heard that the Republicans were out of ideas and had to reach over and were even willing to give the Democrats kudos for the ideas in the name of America. I heard Pro-Life from the moment of conception . . . I just can’t get over this is coming out of the mouth of philanderers. I didn’t hear how we planned to better integrate the wonderful and unique diversity we have in the United States. I didn’t hear how we planned to get out of Iraq and how we planned to go after the real enemy, Osama bin Laden. I heard an old idea about electric cars, but not a sound alternative energy plan. We have to be able to clearly articulate how and why we are different. And all of us have to help people get over the color barrier together – I agree with John McCain on this point: we are ALL Americans. We all have a right to be represented at the highest level of our Government. My prayer is that we can make it happen.

4 09 2008
Sockeye

This is such a great blog community. Thanks everyone and many thanks AK for hosting us so warmly.

4 09 2008
LaughingAt...

2 grandmas, mine too : )

4 09 2008
Camielle

Oh, I forgot this last one and then I will be quiet for a moment, Keith Oberman and MSNBC had a reporter in Wiasila who said that today they weren’t even watching the speech, rather watching the football game and you are already hearing people say that they don’t think she is ready to be vice-president and that THEY worry if something happens to McCain that she would not be ready to take over. They also said that it’s because she is from a small town they fear that she does not have enough exposure to a variety of issues. Are the wheels already begin to fall apart?

4 09 2008
Phil

I am sooooo glad it’s over!!!!! It looked like a Dr. Seuss Cat in the Hat revival. I have never seen so many crazy looking hats in my life. For some reason, I don’t remember the DNC the same away.

4 09 2008
marti

The show was great – Karl Rove and his flip, all of them. I keep telling myself “she is going down” Actually coming back to AK and it fries my fanny that we are paying her salary to perpetuate this charade.

4 09 2008
Plwalsh

My friends, you may not know this, I don’t like to talk about it, but I was a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

I was a jerk before that. But the experience reformed me totally. Then I came home and cheated on my wife who was recovering from a terrible auto accident. After that, I saw the light and dumped her for a rich blond babe much younger than me who bankrolled my political career.

Best decision I ever made. Really. Changed my life.

But that was thirty years ago or something like that so it is irrelevant. We don’t talk about it.

Except that Cindy is still here. Isn’t she great? Even with all that #@$@#$ makeup on her face. She will be a great first lady and, no, she is nothing like a trollop. I never said that.

All those houses are just to help me forget I was a prisoner of war. (Did I explain that part? I really don’t like to talk about it.)

What houses? My staff made them all up. We don’t talk about houses in this campaign. Or pregnant teenagers. It would be vicious. And a lie.

Did I mention lies? No, we never talk about lies. I never said that.

Then I was a Republican lawmaker for about twenty years but I never agreed with anything the party stood for or with any of the the bills I voted for in congress. If I voted for them again, I wouldn’t do it. That is known as being a maverick! Didn’t you love that show?

My friends, after that I made speeches. The speeches were mostly about being a POW. I know that was more than thirty years ago but it seems like just yesterday.

While I was making speeches, George Bush screwed me royally and got to be president. I was really pissed for a long time but we made made up and I let him kiss my head. Then I told him to go away— FAR, FAR away.

He was elected eight years ago. It’s irrelevant to this discussion. Just remember we will never, ever, do any of the dumbass things he did ever again in this great nation of America.

But Bush is great. Really great. We love each other. We just don’t talk about that.

After I didn’t get to be president, I wrote a couple books. I was hard up for a subject so I wrote about loving the Maverick show. And, oh, being a POW. Thirty years ago is not so far back that I can’t remember the cross that guy drew in the sand.

(Or maybe I read that somewhere. When you’re an old guy, sometimes you mix things up.)

Anyway, my friends, later on I began to think I might have another shot at being president. So I made more speeches (my time as a POW seemed like a good subject to start off with).

I also went to town meetings and told people to ask me anything, anything they wanted to. Until they asked me questions I didn’t want to answer. Then I told them to shut up or lose the use of an eye.

Also in these speeches I promised to change Washington by being that Maverick guy and doing the same thing that Republicans have been doing for the last 28 years. Like cutting taxes for rich people, cutting programs for poor people, and selling everything that isn’t nailed down to our friends.

That’s OUR friends, not my friends. There are friends and then there are FRIENDS. We call our FRIENDS contributors. Big ones.

I learned being president involves a lot of selling. Lots and lots of selling. Principles. Promises. A vice presidential candidate. Isn’t she great? I’m so glad we got this chance to get to know each other on the campaign trail. I really, really mean that.

My friends, we Republicans do not believe in ruining the country by preventing good Americans from having those terrible, terrible experiences that build true character. Like being a POW. (Did I mention I was a POW at one point? It changed my life.)

Of course, about 600 other guys were POW’s in Viet Nam but every guy is different and only one of us, that is me, is qualified to be president primarily by virtue of being a fomer POW.

Being a former POW also prevents me from lying, cheating, or hearing criticism. (Did I tell you it changed my life?)

My friends, is this a great country or what? Only in America. We Republicans love America. Except for the liberals, the elite media, latte drinking pointy-headed professor types (I won’t mention any names) and the polar bears. Polar bears are cute but they have been known to wear white after Labor Day. But we don’t talk about polar bears. Wouldn’t be prudent.

So help me fight, fight for you, fight for change, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. Drill here now. Drill here now. More Nukes. Find teachers other work to do. (They need it on those crappy little salaries they get. )

But we don’t talk about that.

So we can all be Georgians. So we can stand up to Russia and poor Mexicans. So we can give more tax cuts to the deserving rich and to needy oil companies. And bring still more of those terrible, character-building experiences (like running very, very hard to keep up with inflation, losing your house and living on the street) to good Americans. Like being a POW.)

Hey, did I tell you I was a POW? It changed my life. But, really, I don’t like to talk about it. I almost never do, actually. Really.

Thank you and God bless us every one. USA, USA, USA!

4 09 2008
akmuckraker

HamletsMill, and everyone,
Phew. Just got to the end of the comments. What fun. I finished posting, and checked the comments to find it already up to 700+! It makes it all more bearable to do this in community. I will definitely be back here in the ‘electronic lodge’ up in the Northland for the debates, and you are all cordially invited.

Thanks for all your nice words and insightful/funny/informative comments. Good Night Mudflatians? Mudpuppies? Mudlarks? Mudflatters?
AKMuckraker

4 09 2008
madbluedog

Just made a donation. Thank you all > I will be able to sleep tonight because of this community.

4 09 2008
LaughingAt...

you were a pow?

4 09 2008
LaughingAt...

thank you, thank you kindly AKM

4 09 2008
chunkalove

AKMuckracker rules!

4 09 2008
BlueLuna

How can I thank you enough for standing up and listening to McCain, when I could not.

You deserve a book deal, and you deserve it POW (oops, iI meant NOW!).

Thank you soooo much for being there for us, particularly Blue Arizona – we’re working — McCain COULD lose the State.

4 09 2008
madbluedog

ARRR! I like Mighty MFs!! Or, in the interest of brevity, “MMFs.”

The Mighty MudFlats!!! MMFs!! Go Go Go!!

4 09 2008
Merle

Sen. Mel Martinez: “He said he would meet with rogue leaders without condition.”

As opposed to the Bush/McCain method, where you send Condi Rice to meet with actual terrorist leader Muammar Gaddafi only on the condition that he trades his oil for the latest high-tech American-made weaponry.

I sorta wonder how McCain and his friends at Boeing fit into all this?

4 09 2008
George D.

Has anyone found ANYTHING truthful in the speeches by McBush or Failin?

Anything?

4 09 2008
Sue

AKMuckraker and all –

Thanks for the education and for making me laugh. See you at the debates.

4 09 2008
GH

I’m next door to Arizona in New Mexico. Things are looking good right now, Obama had a 13 point lead in the last state poll, but it’s no time to be complacent.

4 09 2008
gwbimpeached

We need a brown t-shirt that says: MudPuppies for Obama/Biden’08

Friends don’t let friends (or relatives) vote Republican. Goodnight AKM et al!

4 09 2008
BlueLuna

P.S. Dear Plwalsh — although I have no Alaskan street cred, I read your post and you made my beer shoot out of my nose. F*&%’in cool, man. I’m getting a Plwalsh tat on my ring finger. Oops, did I spell that right…?

4 09 2008
YummyMudslides

My two cents on the night. Plwalsh in his/her long ass rant truly did not cover the whole POW thing. Only 10 mentions? (There may be more but the mudslides I may or may not be drinking may be preventing me from counting them all.) And I am so so Sorry but you Mr or Mrs so called “akmuckraker” do not start a drinking game by saying “My friends”. Everybody drink!” and then only following it up with one more go ahead and drink. What kind of game is that?

Seriously folks, if he can’t read a teleprompter what are we really in for? And that is the least of our problems with him. Besides being I don’t know a POW and loving his country and lets see he has nothing to do with what happened the last eight years, because you know it’s time for change. Do they honestly believe people believe this crap?

4 09 2008
Enjay

This is wonderful place – without it I would have been in tears listening to McCain tell all his POW stories again…. and again…..and again….and again.

Does anyone consider the irony about Obama with the comment “of people clinging to their guns & religion”…. Repubs found one in Alaska!!!

AKMuckraker – Thank you ~~~ and thank you all for keeping me sane this week.

4 09 2008
Kootenay

Ah, this is a lovely blog, and you folks are wonderful. Can’t recall when I’ve been sucked into staying up past my bedtime so many nights in a row. But you’re missing the big one here: BOTOX BARBIE!!!

4 09 2008
Phil

I really have to get a lot off my chest and I really hope I don’t insult any of the wonderful people from Alaska on here or any women, as I don’t mean it the way it may sound. So, I apologize in advance if it gets misconstrued!

Over the last few days while watching this horror unfold, I have seen them interviewing women who say they are totally on board with Sarah. And they all say the same thing- “I am also a soccer mom and she shares my values, so I’m totally on board.” I am a father myself and honor those who serve this country, but I’m not voting for Mc Cain. Are any of the women who support her looking at any of the issues besides motherhood? I hate to say this, and please correct me if I’m wrong, but this may be the first time Sarah has actually been in the same room with an African-American or a Latino, or anyone of a completely different culture. We are a complete mix here in the lower 48 (especially in the big cities). I don’t know if she really understands or has any concept of the America we live in down here.

To me, she doesn’t come off quite as “tough” as she might try to have you believe. I think maybe a bit egotistical, spoiled, and privileged might be better adjectives. I don’t think she has a clue about what women really had to fight for over the history of our country. And no, she doesn’t have a toughness like Geraldine Ferraro or Hillary Clinton or Fmr. governor Ann Richards of Texas. You can actually see the toughness in their faces, because you know these women have actually lived through the “school of hard knocks”, really did have to fight the “good old boy network”, and suffer challenges and defeats along the way. I look at Sarah as just a PTA mom on a mission. There’s really no substance to her past that would shape her character (or at least no one’s mentioned it), so you can’t label her as a “hero” or a “maverick”. She’s probably used her good looks to get everything she has ever gotten. Taking on the “old boy network” must have been really difficult for her as they were drooling over her. I’m sorry…just had to vent and I’m so thankful for this blog!!! It seems to be the only source of truth in this whole fiasco!!!

4 09 2008
Bystander

Here’s some random info.:

“The Barracuda looks very cruel and hides [her]self at the coral reefs and in open water. [S]he uses 2 pair of knife-sharp teeth to kill its prey. [S]he lives in the warmer seas all around the world. An adult barracuda has nearly no natural enemies that are big enough to eat h[er], although sharks, tuna and the big grouper will try to bite h[er] sometimes. ”

and

“Do barracuda have enemies? Yes, they do. Humans are a #1 enemy of barracuda. These fish are tasty, and easy to sell. Because of that, barracuda are being overfished in Belize. Some conservationists are calling for a better management policy on reef fishing, allowing barracuda populations to begin to build up again.”

4 09 2008
White Agate

Mudpups or mudpuppies, definitely.

4 09 2008
Alaskan Woman

Wait don’t leave yet! Did you hear that Palin is coming back to Alaska and won’t be available to anyone until the middle of next week! They are hiding her while they madly try to train her! Yikes!

4 09 2008
kvass

Good God and they are not even snowed in up there yet.

4 09 2008
Sean Menefee

O’Reilly vs Obama video here:

4 09 2008
Bystander

Hey, White Agate, is the Biden email noteworthy?

Also, while I don’t know where this fits precisely in a timeline:

The plan, the paper said, was to announce Bristol’s pregnancy after the wedding. However, the tabloid says the teen refused to go along with the wedding, sparking a “mother-daughter showdown.”

but, dang, Bristol, that might just be patriotic!🙂

4 09 2008
kem

Ok, I did go google them, Jim Hensley and Kemper Marley, John’s inlaw connection, and now I understand this whole thing—it wasn’t a joke, it is just business as usual for those folks… http://www.democrats.com/john-mccain-married-to-the-mob http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-spirits/

Speaking of liquor, let’s all have a drink and consider this: why would an ultra conservative Christian Mayor Palin fight to keep the Wasilla bars open till 4-5am instead of 2 as the ministers and cops wanted? Maybe they import a lot of Bud/A-H…

Now this: http://tiodt.blogspot.com/2006/12/married-to-mob.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hensley

WOW. Blogs like this may just save the day!!!!! A prof said that because of the Internet, tyranny will no longer be able to exist—maybe it will try, but with the help of our friends here, at least we can try to stop it!!! THANKS again.

4 09 2008
Smitty

How ’bout Mudflatterers?

Tonite Obama/Biden opened up the new Los Angeles campaign office in an area called “Palms”. Streets had to be closed. It was so overwhelmed by people signing up to campaign and volunteer an impromtu rally took place and nobody wanted to leave.

Signs and chants of “No Way No How No McCain No Palin” spontaneously sprung up.

Very heartening.

4 09 2008
Sarah from CA

Bystander — yes! He made quite a few awkward faces, usually during routs of applause after some ghastly “truthiness.” I think they have a name for that look: guilt.

Rhett O’Rical — thanks! That was the line about education being a civil liberty. Maybe McCain’s plan involves leaving “No Child Left Behind” behind?

And Phil — yes, unfortunately, I think most women on Palin’s side are relating to her “story” and think the fact that she calls herself a barracuda/pit bull/rabid moose/piranha/angry squirrel/fierce hamster somehow equates to being “feisty,” and that somehow equals “qualified” and “trustworthy.” She seems incapable of arguing her point without being cruel and using hyperbole, but some people don’t seem to care.

4 09 2008
nauseated

I’ve been wondering if Colin Powell might come out and endorse Obama. There have always been rumors that he privately backs Obama and a couple of weeks ago a reporter on TV said he was told Powell wouldn’t endorse anyone till after the conventions. McCain showed total disregard for the nation’s security with his selfserving selection of Palin to be a heartbeat away from the office of Commander-in-Chief. This might be enough to compel Powell to speak out.

4 09 2008
Phil

Thanks for the reassurance, Sarah from CA. You got it exactly right!

4 09 2008
John Henry

My thoughs on McCain after the speech

1
John McCain was running against himself.

He’s been projecting onto Obama all of his weaknesses this entire campaign.

-He is the one who didnt put the country first when he picked Sarah Palin. You really can’t be serious that you sat down thought who would be best for America and the first name that came to mind was Sarah Palin.
-He is the one who has the naive foreign policy. We dont have the troops to push everyone around any more. Let’s be smart about it. Let’s exhibit some soft power too.
-He is the one who is wrong on the surge. Just wait until we stop the payoffs to the Sunnis. The violence will quickly resume, probably after the election.
-He is the one with suspect executive abilities even with his many years of experience
-He is the one who is elitist. Since when did community organizers become the problem?

2
As I see it his fatal flaw is this: he does not know how to communicate a clear and consistent message. He eventually contradicts himself leaving his followers scratching their heads.

For example,

-He pours resources into the experience argument for months and then picks Sarah Palin. If he thinks Sarah Palin is ready to be President on day one he must think Obama is too. Its that simple. All that time was wasted.

-He pours resources into the celebrity message, and then gets Fred Thomspon to be the attack dog. Hey John, he’s not a real prosecutor; he just plays one on TV.

-He virtually accuses Obama of being a traitor, and then in the same sentence says that he is the best person to cross the aisle.

All the demeaning talk about Obama’s speeches proves that he underestimates the importance of communication. Reagan was more effective in passing his agenda in 8 years, than John McCain has in 26, because Reagan was a great communicator, not a great leglislator, administrator, executive, or foreign policy expert. John McCain does not understand that an effective leader inspires just as much via words than by deeds, especially one of very large enterprises.

Leaders know how to communicate clearly. John McCain does not. Sarah Palin does. That’s why she has reinvigorated this campaign. Everyone knows the message now. Status Quo packaged as “Change. Conservatives Believe In”. Sarah is much more effective at communicating that message than John is. None of that silly celebrity stuff any more. The experience argument is moot. Everyone (Right-wing Republicans at least) is on board. The message is clear.

IMO, John McCain is not the leader here. Sarah Palin is. She is the one who rallied the troops. I know I cringed after that too. I have to qualify that by saying I think that integrity, vision, discipline, and compassion are also necessary to be a great leader. From all that I’ve read so far, Sarah lacks these. So, I think she can inspire people to follow her. I also think she’d have no qualms about misleading them.

4 09 2008
krassen

Deb from CO:
That’s not a surprise, McCain had to empty his coffers by the end of August, because starting Sep 1 he can only spend the public money ($84M).
I expect Obama-camp to have a moderate money advantage in the home stretch, provided that they keep their fundraising levels.

Unfortunately, I am not sure it will matter that much. The public interest in the campaign is very high, and the media amplifies the candidate’s message for free. I am not sure more TV ads would make much of a difference. Then you have the GOTV ground troops, which are important, however, GOP does not need to invest much there. Their base is very well organized via church groups and similar organizations, and Palin’s effect is certain to energize them. Finally, remember that McCain is a highly efficient campaigner money-wise. He went against Romney with a huuuge money disadvantage and beat him soundly.

Another thing that has been reported is that McCain will not defend the red states, which is pretty smart of him to do. For example, Obama has been pouring money into Indiana and still McCain refuses to be baited there. Obviously, with his campaign limit he cannot be distracted to invest in the red states. If the likes of Indiana, North Carolina and the Dakotas, become battlegrounds he is toast anyway, so no point spending there.

I am really curious as to what will Obama-camp do if they overshoot heir fundraising, which is in fact quite possible, considering that they raised $10M only yesterday. What do you do if you have say 3x the money of your opponent for the last eight weeks, which is quite possible? We are in completely uncharted territory as this has never had happened before. Do you reinvent the air war? Blanket the airwaves? Do you continue to pour money into undefended red states with the hopes to turn one around? So far, IN is not budging, despite the spending disparity…

We’ll have to see; I am a bit sceptical that this will be a big factor. I believe it is quite possible that you can have “too much” money to deploy effectively and the return on investment would be dropping beyond some optimal spending amount.

Of course, even though I think Obama will be raising very well over the home stretch, this is far from certainty. The economy is tough and it is quite remarkable what you guys are doing, giving so much. Let’s hope you will be able to afford to continue doing so.

Cheers!

4 09 2008
Deb

In all fairness to Sarah (which is hard to do, I realize given her attacks), she does have a son being deployed in the next two weeks.
That being said respectfully, being so new to this national scene, she also needs a lot of “grooming” before being released on her own.
But, hey, she’s been a mayor (of Wasilla) while Obama and Biden have so little “experience”…so as she says “it’s not rocket science”!!

4 09 2008
liz

Sorry if this is a repost. Lots of posts here. Wow.

someone with a very low opinion of Palin:
http://thebruceblog.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/letter-by-alaskan-man-who-has-known-sarah-palin-since-1972/

4 09 2008
LaurainSF

Thanks again Muckraker. Loved your commentary.And the 700 comments. Also, oustanding explanation of the AK Independent Party. Very clearly written and I’m pretty sure I get that it’s more about attitude. I had no idea Libertarians were such a huge part of AK politics. I’ve been a registered Lib since I was 18 – course I play around with party affiliation during the primaries ocassionally! Anyway, lovin’ this site and the incredible effort you and yours are expending. BTW, what’s up with Palin’s nose wrinkle thing?

4 09 2008
Rosci

First = the blue the blue the blue! I’m BLIND!

second= let’s stop calling it the GOP. That stands for grand old party. It is no longer grand. just old.

third= watch with the sound down and start counting nubile young women in the audience. Either the cameramen are all lechers or the young beauties (mostly blondes) were put in strategic places to subliminally tell all of us (apparently vewwy vewwy stupid) women that there are Persons With Similar Plumbing approving this white haired man and his strumpet. I must obey. i must approve. I,must, vote, for, them… I cannot have a brain. The blue the blue the blue. Yes master. I will be a good female and vote for you.

then of course there are the various people of color – also strategically placed. and the soccor moms. and the American legion. But I like a couple of those old guys in their legion hats. A couple of times the camera (must be a closet Dem) pans across them looking distinctly unhappy and uncomfortable. As if to say, “I lost 32 of my buddies in the Big war for THIS doofus?”)

Before I end this ramble a thought occurred to me — where is Karl Rove when we need him. Anyone remember the assertions Rove made about McCain when he had the temerity to run against Bush? If I’m not mistaken, Rove ‘swiftboated’ McCain several times. I think he asserted that McCain wasn’t all that brave OR all that well-liked or respected by his fellow POW’s. I’m not accusing him. I’m just saying… Rove said some stuff… can anyone dig that up? It might be fun to send to that ABC site…

country first? How about picking a competent running mate?

4 09 2008
GJ in Idaho

Watch out folks, no more Pork….BTW can anyone tell me what that really means? Is it pork if comes to Idaho and not pork if it goes to AZ or AK?

Hey it took me 2hrs to read all these posts, then I remember to scroll down to post and that took another 15mins…my puter is getting as old as my eyes…

4 09 2008
NMJ

Well, after McCain’s speech, I donated $100 to Obama.

If even half of that video about Cindy was true, I’d have to say she seems to have more executive experience than Palin! Was working with special needs people really her chosen profession? She certainly doesn’t agree with Palin on abortion and sex education issues; I wonder how she feels about Palin vetoing 62% of the necessary money for special needs kids?

4 09 2008
Krystal

One thing that got me about the O’Reilly interview is that O’Reilly’s final word is that this guy is tough. This is the most conservative nut-job on the planet, believes pretty much the exact opposite of everything Obama stands for, but though he didn’t (and couldn’t) out and out say it, I kind felt like he was saying that this guy earned his respect. If Obama can earn the respect of O”Reilly maybe he really can part the seas and walk on water. Did anyone have a similar take on the interview?

5 09 2008
Anonymous

I’m glad that baby Trig has sister Bristol to nurture him. Found a sweet
pic of Levi kissing Trig while Bristol holds