Sarah Palin Can Be Damaging to Your Mental Health.

16 11 2008

Does anyone have a sock? A cork? A bar of soap, even? Because Sarah Palin will simply not. stop. talking. And I, for one, am willing to try anything that works. For some reason, her siren song of folksiness, labyrinthine sentence structure and downright refusal to be silenced have come together to generate some kind of perfect media storm.

The seamless ease with which Palin bounces back and forth between seemingly opposite and incompatible statements is mesmerizing….or just plain mind-numbing depending on your perspective. It’s the classic example of what’s known in psychology as the “double bind.”

Examples of a psychological double-bind are the mother who says “I love you”, while simultaneously recoiling from a hug in digust, or the father who says “I’m so proud of you, you didn’t screw up again!” The victims of a double bind get two simultaneous and conflicting messages. The feeling we get when we witness, or are victims of a double-bind is visceral. Our senses are telling us two different things. Our mind is in disharmony. Both our gut and our brain tell us there is something very very wrong.

I present for you a case study – Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, ex-VP candidate and double binder extraordinaire. See if you can pick it out of the following clip. It’s right in the beginning. If you want to keep listening you’ll be treated to a huge non-answer about the bailout of the auto industry, and a big “shout out” to George W. Bush.

It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration, yes. And I speak for other Republicans, other Republican governors also. They being willing, also, to, again, seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, a united front.

[snip]

Well, I still am concerned about that association with Bill Ayers. And if anybody still wants to talk about it, I will, because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol. That’s an association that still bothers me, and I think it’s still fair to talk about it. [snip] I do not think it’s off-base nor mean spirited nor negative campaigning…

It would be my honor to assist and support a terrorist sympathizer. And I speak for other Republicans when I say that.

So what happens to those who are continuously subjected to the double bind? If it’s coming from parents, or someone in a position of power, or someone from whom you cannot get away, the results can be damaging, especially for children. Fortunately for most of the country, Sarah Palin is not someone who wields power, and she is not their parent or our spouse, and they can get away from her with a click of the remote. So my advice from Alaska to the rest of the country is, grab your children and run. Or just push mute.

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283 responses

16 11 2008
Stuck

Eek. Does anyone think she’s actually aware of her contradictions?

16 11 2008
CatStaff

In addition to the word salad/grating voice combo (which, incidentally, makes me want to pull my ears off my head and stomp on them), I’m also full up to the Plimsoll mark with that whole terrorist fist jab she does all the time.

Look, I love you guys in Alaska, but it’s time for you all to man up and take her back; specifically, take her somewhere without electricity so that these interviews can now cease.

16 11 2008
Trowel Ogre Palin

She drives me absolutely crazy, the way she does that! Why doesn’t it bother all those conservatives? They want their children home schooled so they are smarter than public school students, and here is a heck of a role model for them! Great oratory skills.

I sure hope Begich wins! That will solve a lot of problems. I noticed the wind coming out of her sails after the Governor’s conference. She isn’t quite the star she thought she was!!

16 11 2008
Carol

Sarah’s trying to break down that door right now… May her ego do her in sooner than later.

16 11 2008
DarleenMB

Well darn. the video is gone already. But I’m sure I would have suffered a mental breakdown had I actually listened to it.

Hmmm. Still works for me. *shrug* AKM

16 11 2008
loreenwl

50,000 words to say what? Can’t we shut her up somehow? Duct tape her hands together while we’re at it? She drives me absolutely insane.

16 11 2008
topcat

Bravo on this article. You’ve nailed Palin (no pun intended).
She reminds me of that old SNL skit “the thing that won’t go away.”
I am so sick of not only her, but those tired old talking points…”energy producing state, he pals with terrorists, blah blah blah…”
It finally dawned on me as you say…”just click her off, she is incapable of saying something that is not scripted for her”…
The remote control’s off switch is a powerful tool, thanks for reminding me of that and keep up the great work.

16 11 2008
loreenwl

She wants to cast aspersions at those folks who can only afford a $100,000 house and get talked into a $300,000 house. Like herself, perhaps? Oh, no. I forget. Her friends built it in their spare time. Free.

16 11 2008
amy

” Our mind is in disharmony. Both our gut and our brain tell us there is something very very wrong.”

Perfect. This describes exactly what I feel when I hear her speak!
Thank you once again AKM!

16 11 2008
Lacy Lady

I don’t think Obama will be calling on her in the near future. Yikes!!!!!
Please —dear Alaskans——get her off the page.
This double talk is driving me crazy. Surely to God, the media will drop this woman after today. Hopefully—never to see or hear from her again. Where is the witch doctor when you need him?????

16 11 2008
Joe the sound recording engineer

That’s not the only double bind statement — listen closely to her talk about energy independence and drilling ;)

16 11 2008
copybook realist

OMG is it still Halloween?

Palin is definitely driving me over the edge…I think that it is like a Greek tragedy/comedy….I need catharsis dammit. One way or another it has to end!

and no deus ex machina…that doesn’t count.

16 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Has anybody seen this? I had tears streaming! Apologize if it’s been posted before but it has Scarah speaking in rhythm with the Talking Heads–my favorites!

Hope you enjoy!

16 11 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

question to all alaskans

you really have to explain how you elected this woman

at first, i thought the whole thing was an act….then i heard her interview after the birth of trig….and she has always spoken like this…putting there and also and again….where they dont belong….speaking in a circular fashion where one has absolutely no clue where she is going.

btw, someone needs to tell her that as the economy is collapsing, also, there, and again…so too is the price of a barrell of oil….and i dont thing, again, also…that the oil companies are gonna spend millions in drilling new wells, just so, also, they will be less profitable

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

My ears bleed whenever she talks. I hate the feeling of my ear drums bursting.

The upside is i think i’m going deaf.. !

Bill Ayers.. AGAIN.

God, i figured it out. She’s a robot from the future and they filled her memory with set things.. A freakish radiation storm caused her to shortcircuit and now all she can do is repeat the words in her database, which are now all jumbled and incoherant. Her hair stores the powersupply and main processor. How could we not catch this?

Also, where did “Thank you, I appreciate you” become an appropriate exit salutation?

Barbie is waiting on database upgrade v 2.1 to be delivered from the planet Groytch. All men there have combovers and the easiest way to find one of them is to watch as they look at the chest of human females at innappropriate times.

Example of a typical Groytchite:

16 11 2008
Chaim

I was also unable to access the video, told it is “no longer available.’ Just as well.

16 11 2008
Uncle Joe Mccarthy

and grats on winning best political blog

16 11 2008
Maggie AKA Molten Contra Hussein Palin

Okay, I’ve had it.

I’m going into a 12-step recovery program, and I need to bid good-bye to Mudflats during my treatment. I have to get Sarah Palin out of my mind, out of my life and off my computer screen. I have gained 5 pounds since Palin’s selection was announced in August. I was blissfully unaware of her existence until that day in August. She caused me anxious, sleepless nights; she made me irritable with my family members; she strained my relationship with my mom, who is a Palin supporter (ugh!); she caused me to be addicted to my laptop, looking for news updates during her horrifying campaign. I don’t think I’ll ever feel confident again about the likelihood that our democracy will survive in the long term. After all, if someone as dumb as Sarah could come THAT close to being elected the VP, it’s inevitable that it will happen again.

I am still freaked out that someone so corrupt/manipulative/dishonest/uninformed could be elected the governor of a state. Not only that, but she’s in office after all the dirt about her has been made public. She’ll continue to charge her per diem account, and will traipse around with her kids at state expense as much as she pleases. Unbelievable!

How tragic for our nation that Sarah came packaged in such an attractive body and with a pretty face . If she was a pudgy balding version of herself, she would not have gotten elected as governor, would she? :-/

I have only been a quiet lurker here, but I’ll still miss all of you. Thanks, AKM, for all your fine work! Best wishes to all of you. — Maggie.

16 11 2008
LibertyLover

OK. I could only make it to 4 minutes. Can’t take anymore. And I really thought that George W. Bush was the only person that made me physically ill to listen to. She’s the only person that can talk for minutes on end and not say a dang thing.
Take. Her. Back. Alaska.

I here tell that she’s finally going to be on Larry King Live. A few weeks late, ain’t ya Governor?

16 11 2008
Plastic

Whew! If you listen long enough, you realize you could interchange her side of the conversation with any of her previous interviews — Gibson, Couric, Lauer — and you’d never notice the difference.

On the other hand, I have truly appreciated her part in the campaign for not only — gosh, I hate to admit it — sinking McCain’s ship, but also for the wonderful comic relief.

16 11 2008
Irish in FL

It started to play for me, but there’s no way I’m going to listen to 9+ minutes of rediculousness so I muted it as soon as it started….she is absolutely insane……and the worst part is, because she has npd, she actuallly, really, truly believes she’s making sense!!!!
One Scary Lady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

I want to, I want to, I really do, want to go onto the forum to post my response. But my password seems no longer to work. It worked yesterday when I posted a recipe. What happened? Help!

Anyway, perhaps SWWNBN thought that the swaying palms and such behind her would hypnotize the viewers so that they would ignore her word salad with a tropical twist.

16 11 2008
lock pepper in honolulu

Maggie–best wishes to you if you are um…serious–
can’t tell?
If you are going into rehab, my heart and prayers to you! If not, well, I can’t say it on national television…not funny!

babababuhbuhbuhbaba…run run run run AWAYYYYY Yeah, yeah!

16 11 2008
Cynamen Winter

Yeah…I’m through with Sistah Say-rah, and hoping for change to “also” permeate Alaska, for you all truly deserve better.

On a much brighter note, here’s a video holiday greetings from the Obamas.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid353515028/bctid1349141721

They are just “cute-a-plenty.”

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Maggie,

I have gained weight too and my work has gone stinky.

I am limiting myself to 2 hours on wekends and 1 hour on week days…and now I am off on my nightly walk. it is a twelve step program.

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hau,
She is a freaken freak, I can not and will not let that shreiking ugly voice into my mind anymore, she’s bloody alien, as in extraterrestrial, a Brain Snatcher. I let her voice in, peace of mind and love get sucked out of my head. I refuse to listen to her, so thanks AKM for posting a little of her rant. Reading her words is better for my health.

Deal me in…

16 11 2008
copybook realist

She is a new form of torture.

16 11 2008
Eyes Wide Open in Pgh, PA
16 11 2008
deborah aka upnorthMN (also hose hotrod)

Wow. You’ve hit the nail on the head with this analysis, AKM. Another great post! And I’m with you in getting any kids within influence-range out of Dodge. Yikes.

@Maggie–I so hear you about the need for a 12-step program, and I’ve tried to go cold turkey, but somehow I keep finding my way back here :)

16 11 2008
pj

poor Wasilla…Dick Cavett names miss sarah the “Wild Wordsmith of Wasilla” and I think Dick agrees with AKM and the rest of us…she needs to shut the pipeline-valve! Her mouth runneth over and she sickens the environment (humanity).

http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/

16 11 2008
rachelbirds

Sarah Palin is . . .
fingernails on a blackboard
and drip, drip, drip, drip.

http://www.thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com

16 11 2008
LibertyLover

Marty @ (18:21:45)

There was a B movie in the late 80’s called Cherry 2000. Melanie Griffith was in it. That’s the robot that Sarah Palin reminds me of…

16 11 2008
Gizmo

To All You People at Mudflap,

As you are for sure aware, as Governor of Wasilla I have multiple responsibilities in the time being, and because I can see Russia from my house there is a perception that somehow you bloggin’ people in pajamas have wisdom a-plenty. And don’t ever forget it. The world is a complex place, with many moving parts that can easily be confused with the weak dollar and at the same time we have to keep an eye on those rebels in Darfur, heaven knows what they’re doin’.

Of course, up here in Alaska we have a lot of respect for the hunter, but that doesn’t change my thinking one bit, because I still believe that Ted Stevens deserves to represent the people of the United States of America and as a devout Christian I am willing to overlook his sins and move on to a space-based missle defense. Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that you can’t stomp a snake with both feet in the bucket.

And let’s be frank about the money that I spent on a nice wardrobe during the Presidental campaign. Most real Americans that I know like to see a woman lookin’ good, and it sure helps when you’re tryin’ to make a deal with Kazakstan or somebody. As Vice-President I would be responsbile for travellin’ to countries like Africa and talkin’ to those people over there about mad cow disease and other international situations which have a bearing on peace, especially since you liberals have confused the picture with your supposed facts. Remember, you’ve got to groom the turkey before you milk the goat. Bear that in mind, OK?

Yours,

Sarah

16 11 2008
Inanna

Besides the Ayers issue, when asked point blank about whether or not the Government should bail out the auto industry she started the double-bind again, which means: I can’t form an opinion because I don’t care enough to educate myself about the issue but if you want to talk about the old news and completely baseless Ayers issue, I’m all over it!

There’s a petition online that you can sign to ask her to shut up already.

16 11 2008
Nisperos

That head shaking back and forth seems negating of everything too…

The incongruency is quite disconcerting.

However, think about this: ever seen someone with a learning disability move their head back and forth when they read?

Also, what about what people do in EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) Therapy (c.f. : http://www.emdr.com/ )

Back in the the 1970’s, there were also the Bandler and Grinder Books which I believe started with one called The Structure of Magic

So, who’s the Svengali behind this Trilby?

16 11 2008
Chaim

Sorry, now it works. Glad to hear she will cooperate with the new terrorist administration as a governor with expertise in tapping America’s great underground reserves of BS.

16 11 2008
SMG - MN

If anyone wants to brave the actual full video, listen carefully to her answer about a second stimulous package (around the 6:30 mark). She answers that “taxpayers” shouldn’t be called upon again…. she thinks that a stimulous package is all part of the bailout. She has no clue.

16 11 2008
Windy City, aka Alien Ears

My observation has been that she creates how own version of reality and then lives in it. I suppose in a way we all do that except that hers has nothing to do with reality. If only she were not so good at convincing other people that her reality makes sense.

McCain did not do a good thing for our country by foisting her on us. Not those who hate, are angry and defy logic such a strong figure to rally about and give them a voice. My concern is that she will learn more tricks over time and be able to present herself more acceptably to more people.

Oy.

My mother used to tell the joke about the child who is shown a room with manure in it who responds, “I know there must be a pony in here somewhere!” The old silver lining story. So where is that pony.

16 11 2008
SoCal Bob

Tonight Fox news had a piece on Palin and pointed out that most Democratic women didn’t like her. They opined that that dislike was based on the fact that Palin had a “active” sex life and that the Democratic women were – uh – jealous.

Speaking from a guys point of view, I’d bet dollars to donuts Palin couldn’t keep her yap shut long enough to youknowwhat….and guys hate women talking when they youknowwhat. I’ve already determined that Todd is mute but now I’m convenced he’s apparently deaf too. :)

16 11 2008
SMG - MN

er…stimulous=stimulus :)

16 11 2008
Windy City, aka Alien Ears

Gizmo–maybe you could get a job as a speech writer!

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Shock Therapy.. turn it up all the way and crank that baby. Shock baby shock, til she’s incoherant and babbles aimlessly… oh crap.. she’s already had the lobotomy.. ooops..

16 11 2008
BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin

I am watching Barack and Michelle right now.

Can’t be bothered with Sarah and her “issues” right now.

16 11 2008
Kelly M

2 minutes in to it and I don’t know if I can continue. Blitzer just quoted her to her, she’s getting ready to waffle. Our very own train wreck, how many more years is she governor?

16 11 2008
Denise MadLibFromMSgaAZca

Anybody, can you connect me with the background for Palin’s eldest son to join the military? Perhaps a link, too.

I recalled that it MIGHT have had something to do with avoiding jail time for damaging a school bus. There’s a Palin supporter I know who is incensed with that suggestion. Thanks bunches.

The rumor circulated, but nothing can ever be substantiated because at the time of the supposed incident, Track was under 18 and juvenile records are sealed. AKM

16 11 2008
WakeUpAmerica

It is interesting to watch her body language as she talks. While she is making affirmative statements about Obama and helping him, she keeps moving her head left to right as though she is saying “no.” Her body is denying the words that are coming out of her mouth. Very telling!!

16 11 2008
Anonymous

lock pepper in honolulu (18:20:54) :
Thank you for that video – I’ve shared it with the forum folk.
and all others who are perhaps unaware. I love the Talking Heads!
We’re trying to move all “chat” ie stuff that is not perfectly in response to the post into the forum. There have been accessability and blanking-out-for-a-while-issues with the blog. The recommended solution from Sephy and other techy people has been that we move into the forum to discuss “stuff” because wordpress can’t actually handle all our posts. The price of success ;). I know this is tough for the un-forumed, but once you register, it is really easy to keep up with the rest. Try clicking on

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7af2aae435d8d0b08af5cef532f85b18&board=5.0

Get yourself signed up and rejoin all the fun!

16 11 2008
Denise MadLibFromMSgaAZca

BigSlick YES WE CAN! Clamp Noodle Palin (18:43:05) :

I am watching Barack and Michelle right now.

Can’t be bothered with Sarah and her “issues” right now.
+++++++++++++++++++=

Great interview. Loved the chemistry between them. Loved how Barack said Michelle would define her own role. She is SMART and I expect will be significant for the nation.

Here comes the dog!!!

16 11 2008
jack the commenter

At least George Orwell’s “doublespeak” had logical word organization and structure.

16 11 2008
Carolina Girl

Here is something that might scare everyone…I know so many people, women in particular, that believe she is fabulous. I am not one of them. It puts me at odds with so many of my friends and MY MOTHER! They seem to believe the nonsense she spews. I am losing my mind here in SC. Many of these women are well educated too! I am so thankful to read this blog and know that I am not really losing my mind.

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

What i don’t get, mudpups..

She’s been on the national stage a while now, and why is it that the reporters who interview her don’t call her out on her nonsensical answers? Wouldn’t it seem obvious (wolfie did it sorta on the car bailout but then let her off the hook) to ask her.. “Sarah, you just spoke for 3 minutes and didn’t say anything. Can you simply answer my question in 10 words or less?, Lets try this.. barbie, can you name your children in under 10 words? You only have 4 or 5, so this should be easy”…

Dr. Evil: you just don’t get it, do ya?

16 11 2008
slickSarahbarra

She need more information………..
She wants to “shout out to Bush”…….

She takes no fault….
She wants to talk……

THAT BILL AYERS……
THE UNREPENTANT…….

LOOK AT ME…….
I SMILE WITH GLEE…..

AND I SPEAK FOR OTHER REPUBLICANS…….
OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ALSO……

A UNITED FRONT…..
WHAT SHOULD I WEAR……

WHO IS GOING TO DO MY HAIR….
I NEED NEW CLOTHS……

16 11 2008
Claire

Am I the only one who’s sick to death of “to progress” our nation and everything else? While progress can be used as a verb, SP uses it constantly. Grate, grate, grate!

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

Okay. I may take the mother in law’s name, Marian Robinson, cause she is quietly foundational and I am admiring her and the relationship she maintains with all the family. . . maybe PrezMIL.

Noticeably lacking the F in a similar abbreviation.

16 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Chief Shikago (18:30:18) :

Come on…you are my translator of Palinese; what is she really saying?

16 11 2008
futurexpat?

Listening to her is like listening to GW Bush. I quit listening to him quite a while ago. I sometimes watch him with the sound off to watch the gyrations of his mouth and jaw. It seems to have become worse lately. I have to watch Sarah the same way, with the sound off. I’ll be very glad when she goes away (I hope she does).

16 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

Anonymous (18:44:53) :

lock pepper in honolulu (18:20:54) :
Thank you for that video – I’ve shared it with the forum folk.
and all others who are perhaps unaware. I love the Talking Heads!
We’re trying to move all “chat” ie stuff that is not perfectly in response to the post into the forum. There have been accessability and blanking-out-for-a-while-issues with the blog. The recommended solution from Sephy and other techy people has been that we move into the forum to discuss “stuff” because wordpress can’t actually handle all our posts. The price of success ;). I know this is tough for the un-forumed, but once you register, it is really easy to keep up with the rest. Try clicking on

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7af2aae435d8d0b08af5cef532f85b18&board=5.0

Get yourself signed up and rejoin all the fun!
———
Yeah, that was me, not anonymous. Seriously, try heading over to the forum to find all your old pals.

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

Carolina Girl (18:48:58) :

I live with one. It is scary. Facts do not seem to matter.

16 11 2008
Diane

How is her pregnant daughter doing?
One would think that her family would take top priority now that her team lost the election.
How can the republican religious right have the grounds to criticize liberals about their moral stand on family issues? This governor has a pregnant, unwed teenage daughter, a special needs baby less then a year old and 2 other children at home a F/T job as governor of a state and is never home?

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

futurexpat? (18:52:33) :

Listening to her is like listening to GW Bush.
++++++++++++

Yep. Daily Show dubbed her SheBush. And I have thought the same thing. Really afraid of that arrogant ambition without the intellectual depth, but a kind of appeal to the people who don’t need for the facts to support her.

16 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

How come John and Cindy didn’t take Sarah with them at the end of the election? I mean if they like and respect her so much and think she’s so wonderful, why did they just dump her on us and take off eh?

That in itself is a bit sus to me :P

“Some people are like slinkies. Not really good for anything but they do put a smile on one’s face at the thought of pushing them downthe stairs…”

16 11 2008
Irish in FL

a slinky…I like that….she’s Sarah Slinky from now on in my mind, and, course, you know where she’s headed…………………..dooooowwwwwwn

16 11 2008
wes_ben

God, she makes me NUTS. How can ANYONE take her seriously?!

16 11 2008
CO Almost Native

I think I know why Palin speaks that way: she says something for everyone! You like Obama- she wants to work with him; you distrust Obama-she mentions Ayers. She shares no opinions of her own, because she wants to appeal to everyone: the Freepers, the AIP, the fiscal Dems- if you don’t listen to everything she says, you latch onto what appeals to you.

Of course, listening carefully to everything she says will put you in a padded cell…

16 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

Denise MadLibFromMSgaAZca (18:44:06)

This is the best-ever Palin family timeline:

http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-timeline.html

16 11 2008
Hey

Interesting article at the Washington Times called Looking Past Palin.

16 11 2008
God

Sarah, this is God.

i know you can hear me.

I sent you back to Alaska for a reason. now, shut up!

16 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

Comprehensive Sarah Palin timeline:

http://jotman.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-timeline.html

(got dumped the first time trying to post this so I forgot who it was looking for it -)

16 11 2008
Gizmo

There is something out there called The Big Stupid. My guess is that it was hatched sometime just after WWII, and is the consequence of six decades of bad television, inadequate nutrition, corporate manipulation of our sensibilities, too many pharmaceuticals, and god knows what else. The net effect is a society that lost its moorings, and is psychogically, emotionally, and physically sick in a way that makes us vulnerable to all manner of nonsense, of which Sarah Palin is the latest manifestation. To think that she got anywhere near the White House and control of 5,500 nuclear warheads is either horrifying or hilarious, depending on your slant.

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Geeze.. Bush is a Rhodes Scholar compared to Barbie.

Bush is horrible, but at least he says something when he speaks.
barbie never says anything.

On a comment someone else made before, while this may be utterly creepy, can anyone imagine what she says to first dud during moments of marital bliss?

Imagine barbiespeak while dud is trying to pay attention.. :) hahahaha

16 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

To whoever was looking for a Sarah Palin Timeline:

I’ve tried twice (unsuccessfully) to post the actual link- so do this:
Go to the blog called “the Immoranl Minority” and scroll down to the title “Best Sarah Palin Timeline Ever…” and click on the title.

It has everything and the guy colour-coded it according to the type of event.

16 11 2008
mimi

I just have to ignore her at this point. She will just disappear into oblivion at some point. So far she has been a great distraction from the mess that the republicans have created and keeps our energy tied up from holding them accountable.

I say good riddance

16 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

On a comment someone else made before, while this may be utterly creepy, can anyone imagine what she says to first dud during moments of marital bliss?
===============
Yes, yes I can:

Sarah toTodd; “Todd! I’m trying to write a speech also that will help us takeover the – again – the White House and you want to WHAT?”

16 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Lynn-in-Australia (19:07:09) :

The blog is Immoral Minority; you can link to it- go back up to the posting, and the blogs are listed on the right.

16 11 2008
victoria2dc

As much as I’d like her to shut up, she’s not gonna’ do it, also!

Did you hear about her $7 million dollar book deal that’s all over the European press?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5162538.ece

She failed to save John McCain from presidential election doom, but Sarah Palin, the Republican senator’s controversial running mate, may yet emerge as the saviour of the American publishing industry. Literary agents are queueing up to sign her to a book deal that could earn her up to $7m.

Alaska… for $7 million you can count on her to keep it up… you betcha’

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

CO Almost Native (18:52:29) :

Chief Shikago (18:30:18) :

Come on…you are my translator of Palinese; what is she really saying?
———————-
Just finished… Translates to:
I wanna be president-
If it would be a good deal for me (first)
If it would be a good deal for my family (second)
If there would be something in it for Alaskans (second to last)
and I don’t really care if it would benefit America, it’s not about America, it’s about me.

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Shikago didn’t she mention something about feeling the need to go hunting for wolves in there?

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Wonder if Barbie’s finally figured out America simply is laughing at her now. The rest of the world just figures we had W for 8 years, so she’s the best we can offer.

16 11 2008
CO Almost Native

Chief Shikago (19:20:16) :

LOL!

I knew I could count on you:)

My hope is that, in January, she’ll have to go back to being governor- and defend herself in Troopergate, Housegate, Emailgate and any other gate that comes up. She’ll be busy, you betcha (wink)

16 11 2008
SMG - MN

I’ve read here and there that the big pipeline deal may be permanently off the table. Isn’t that her big claim to fame?

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

SMG her claim to fame is her immaculate misconception of her own amazingness..

16 11 2008
Nisperos

Partial transcript for your take-apart pleasure: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin.blitzer.transcript/index.html

(Easier than watching the video – try analysing JUST the non-verbals on the video while leaving the sound on mute)

16 11 2008
HamletsMill

Mudpuppies,

Relax. after 01/20/09 when a real adult and a staff of real adults take over to address vital problems we are facing, she will start to fade into total oblivion. Do not worry. Send her roses. She insured the total defeat of the Republican Party in this vital election for the survival of the United States. If she continues to be involved in national politics in ANY way whatsoever, she will insure the total and complete utter mind numbing destruction of the Republican Party. just hold on a little longer to January 20th, 2009. Hold on. She will fade. All this publicity is actually insurance on her ever returning. every time she opens here mouth it is a nail in her coffin. Let her talk. Just turn off the sound and watch her body language. She is an idiot. Yes. It was a total indignity against the nation that we had to endure this. But having to experience her muddled brain and unbearable voice was the price we had to pay for victory. She delivered total defeat for the Republican Party. She came through brilliantly to do her part. A total train wreck for a human being.

So relax.

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Yes Marty, that was the part about how happy it makes her to crush wolf pup sculls.

16 11 2008
CRFlats

So the time has come to shake her off…and I do mean US! Even the TV “perfect storm” blizzard of words from her this last week has not generated other media coverage. She is already yesterdays news, and it is up to us to LET ‘ER GO! If you go to Google news or Yahoo news, it is only the Huff post and lib blogs that continue to cover THAT woman. Let it die, please. No doubt she Googles her name daily….let’s made the day happen when only old news surfaces.

She Who Must Not Be Named Nor Spoken Of Ever Again.

Whew! And since I live in my home state of Alaska, it’s going to be a little more difficult, but I’m glad we won’t be airing our dirty little secret with the world anymore.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

There once was an Alaskan governor named Sarah
Who was born with the looks of a sex bomb like Farrah
She thought she was chosen to lead by God
‘Though she could but wink and nod
And now, she’s giving me endless night-marahs!

I don’t listen to Palin. Ever. I haven’t since I first heard her speak. I will listen to clips, but mostly, I only read her mumbo-jumbo. I started the policy when W. was elected, and I see no reason to treat Palin any differently.

She was asked why she was giving interviews now, and she said, “The election is over.” Um, Sarah? You DO realize that MOST people running for office give interviews DURING the campaign, right?

16 11 2008
AZtopcat

I was telling my husband today that Palin reminds of a comedian that used to appear on Johnny Carson show . He used to talk and use a flurry of words and phrases that made no sense. Unfortunately we could not remember his name.

16 11 2008
AZtopcat

I got a kick out of her comment about the bloggers in their pajamas blogging from their parents basement. ………….Could that be us?? Ha!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Nispero, thanks for the partial transcript. I couldn’t even read all the way through it without wanting to punch her in the nose. She’s crazy-making.

16 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

C’mon over to the forum for where most of us are. Love you all, but hard to be in two places at once.

16 11 2008
16 11 2008
CO Almost Native

While I-Should-be-President Palin is making the talk show rounds, Alaska is dealing with a terrible crisis in education:

http://www.adn.com/education/story/590870.html

She should be at this conference…oh, wait- her pregnant daughter’s fiance has dropped out, her son maybe graduated, her kids campaigned with her instead of attending class…

Never mind:)

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

AZtopcat, if you watch the Rachel Maddow show, she did one episode in pajama pants and fuzzy slippers because she feels she’s a blogger at heart.

I don’t wear pjs, so I can’t blog in ‘em. I blog in sweats–right now, my Obama/Biden sweatshirt.

16 11 2008
JRC

make.it.stop!

16 11 2008
CO Almost Native

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (19:35:30) :

lol- great poem:)

16 11 2008
Lynn-in-Australia

AZtopcat (19:36:10)
I was telling my husband today that Palin reminds of a comedian that used to appear on Johnny Carson show . He used to talk and use a flurry of words and phrases that made no sense. Unfortunately we could not remember his name.
=====================

Brother Sebastian? The drunk guy? He was hysterical. Red Skelton also did a character who couldn’t string two words together without making a mess.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

CO Almost Native, yeah, well, what does she care about Alaska? Now that Palin has had a taste of the national glitz and glamour, she’s not going back.

copybook realist, good to see you!

Has anyone seen ocliberalpost? I hope she’s ok (CA fires). I’m heading over to the forum.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

CO (Almost Native), I figure I might as well use my talents to poke fun at her.

16 11 2008
the problem child (a jerk, also)

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (19:45:44)Has anyone seen ocliberalpost? I hope she’s ok (CA fires). I’m heading over to the forum.
She’s good and well and at home again.

16 11 2008
Jim, aka Pit Bull Hockey Puck

AZtopcat (19:36:10) :

You might be thinking of Bob Eucker, or perhaps Carson’s own character, Floyd R. Turbo. Google will bring up plenty of info on either one.

I just spent a glorious 4 days away from the internet, TV and radio watching cars drive around in circles in the dirt, just the thing to help forget about sarah–I recommend it!

16 11 2008
16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Thanks, the problem child. Glad to hear it, and I apologize for not unbolding yet again in my last post.

16 11 2008
CRFlats

AZTop,
I had a senior flash, and remembered his name….Norm Crosby. He mangled the English language with a Borscht Belt zing. Now, why I can remember that, but not the forth thing on my grocery list, is beyond me.
However, it is the only similarity, because the man obviously had great wit and brains…most importantly, a terrific sense of humor.

I miss Johnny….

16 11 2008
katanalori

This is from Andrew Sullivan’s blog on Daily Dish:
The ADN looks at an epidemic in Alaska:

Among the grim statistics:

• Alaska’s dropout rate, at 8 percent, was double the national average in the 2005-2006 school year, according to the latest figures available from the U.S. Department of Education.

• 38 percent of today’s ninth-graders will have no high school diploma 10 years from now, according to the Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education.

• Alaska ranks 50th, or last, in the number of ninth-graders who will likely have a bachelor’s degree in 10 years, according to the commission.

Just as well they have a role-model governor who is dedicated to the education of her own children – oh wait: Her eldest son has a history of vandalism and was given a GED on the way to Iraq; her oldest daughter was removed from high school for a mysterious length of time last year and is now about to have a baby (due December 18, Palin told us); her youngest daughter, Piper, missed school all fall because she was being carted around the country in Neiman Marcus underwear. And the governor herself, of course, couldn’t manage to stay in one college, graduated with a degree in sports journalism, cut her own town’s library funds and leveraged the town’s budget on a new sports stadium (with new house thrown in!).

Seriously: this woman is the future of Republicanism?

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I loved Floyd R Turbo, American.. !

16 11 2008
deborah aka upnorthMN (also hose hotrod)

@HamletsMill (19:31:13) :

Mudpuppies,

Relax. after 01/20/09 when a real adult and a staff of real adults take over to address vital problems we are facing, she will start to fade into total oblivion. Do not worry. Send her roses. She insured the total defeat of the Republican Party in this vital election for the survival of the United States. If she continues to be involved in national politics in ANY way whatsoever, she will insure the total and complete utter mind numbing destruction of the Republican Party. just hold on a little longer to January 20th, 2009. Hold on. She will fade. All this publicity is actually insurance on her ever returning. every time she opens here mouth it is a nail in her coffin. Let her talk. Just turn off the sound and watch her body language. She is an idiot. Yes. It was a total indignity against the nation that we had to endure this. But having to experience her muddled brain and unbearable voice was the price we had to pay for victory. She delivered total defeat for the Republican Party. She came through brilliantly to do her part. A total train wreck for a human being.

So relax.
————

I couldn’t agree more! And I would add this: Even IF SP makes a run in 2012 she’ll be eaten alive by the other Repub contenders in the primary. And we should take heart that she keeps feeding them such great ammunition every time she opens her trap.

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Asiangrrl,

I heard in the forum that OCliberal is fine…though a “little” put out by it all.

house is safe, family is safe and beagles are safe.

16 11 2008
pvazwindy

Alaska, you have a problem. And it wasn’t smooth talk that put her in office, she’s not capable of that. SP is not fluent, its all those tongues that convolute everything. I guess Alaskans are use to her lack of diction. I’m certain that with the community following you have AKM, everyone who calls themselves a Mudflatter, would back any endeaver you might want to pursue. SP is bad Hoodoo. A good first move would be a recall for incompetence.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Whoot. copybook realist, thanks for the update. I am glad she’s fine. I can’t connect to the forum at this moment for some strange reason.

16 11 2008
Nisperos

I think we can now improve education by progressing science classes forward to evolution.

I still am concerned about those associations with Muthee and with Wagner’s New Apostolic Reformation (NAR): http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/11/5/13585/8320 .

And, I think it’s still fair to talk about it. Those are associations that still bother me. I do not think that it is off-base nor mean-spirited, nor negative to call you and your fellow cultists out on their associations and on their record. And that’s why I do it.

And, yes Sarah:

Stevens had 7 felony counts (not 4)
McCain had 7 houses
At one point YOU told People Magazine you had 7 glasses.

So, take that boulder out of your own eyes.

I guess it’s time to expose The Seven Mountains Mandate for the BIG LIE which it is, and to STOP you and those crazies you associate with from plundering the wealth of our nation to your own benefit.

Doing this will progress the security of our nation and the country which we love and it will benefit the middle class. The Homeland is NOT just for those who you and your ilk consider the elect.

16 11 2008
starshine

Just saw on the local news broadcast that Palin will be in my state campaigning for Saxby Chambliss. Huckabee, Romney and Palin. Great. Just. Great.

16 11 2008
Jim, aka Pit Bull Hockey Puck

It must mean we’re old, Marty… ;)

Remember being an American means being powerful, proud and pushy, and in conclusion, let me finish by ending…Thank you.”
Floyd R. Turbo, American

16 11 2008
Joan aka Timber Challange Palin

If interviewers like Wolf Blitzer would just just stop giving her the oxygen of publicity she would find it easier to sink back into the oblivion she came from!

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Anyone who thinks she’s gonna run in 2012 is on crack. There is zero chance of her ever being on the national political scene again. My guess is she’ll finish her current term, then become a pageant instructor for the girls of Alaska. Something she’s clearly qualified to do.

Even the most fervent conservative won’t put a cent into a Palin campaign. The GOP won’t give her a dime. Unless she’s got her own money to run, she’s not running.. And even then, the real GOP members know. They’re intelligent people, trust me, they see what we see, they just don’t admit it publically.

16 11 2008
pvazwindy

Lynn-in-Australia (19:13:08) :

On a comment someone else made before, while this may be utterly creepy, can anyone imagine what she says to first dud during moments of marital bliss?
===============
Yes, yes I can:

Sarah toTodd; “Todd! I’m trying to write a speech also that will help us takeover the – again – the White House and you want to WHAT?”

—————————————————–Another stimulus pkg. UGH

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

starshine, you must be in GA. Lucky you to be treated to such a fine array of Republican dignitaries.

Joan, the media, they is a whore. They will do anything that will attract attention to themselves.

Marty, I bet there are a lot of starburstin’ Republicans who would be more than willing to pimp Palin out in 2012 if she would just continue winking at and flirting with them. Bill Kristol, Rich Lowry, to name a few.

16 11 2008
copybook realist

hey Assiangrrl,

I have been on an alaska diet…but am off it tonight.

When you get the chance, check out the recipe section of the Forum..where you will fine Obama Sweet Potato pie!, a mexican “drunken” Turkey as well as some great recipes from Ira2’s wild north.

I just got through watching a rerun of Obamas on 60 minutes and I think that I will sleep well tonight!

16 11 2008
pvazwindy

starshine (19:58:19) :

Just saw on the local news broadcast that Palin will be in my state campaigning for Saxby Chambliss. Huckabee, Romney and Palin. Great. Just. Great.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^you gotta be kidding

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I can’t even try to do it.. It’s time for the Master of ALL comedy..just go to the fork in the road..

To the schlossen cutoff.. Can’t find a video of that yet..

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

copybook realist, I taped the 60 Minutes ep so I can watch it right before I go to bed :).

I will check out all the new forums once I can actually get into the forums. Grr.

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Marty,

Depending on the the door cracks…I bet that she throws her hat in the ring.
20 dollars.

Watching the other repug contenders tramp into the mud…priceless

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

asian.. nah.. she’s done. No one’s going to commit millions of dollars to someone they know can’t win. And fund raising for her at this point would be nearly impossible.. Obama raised nearly a billion..! YES.. $1,000,000,000,000

Barbie might raise 100,000, but at $100 an hour per John, it’ll take her a long time.. That ended up funnier than i had intended..:)

16 11 2008
Bea

lock pepper in honolulu (18:20:54) :

Has anybody seen this? I had tears streaming! Apologize if it’s been posted before but it has Scarah speaking in rhythm with the Talking Heads–my favorites!

Oh lock pepper, I too love the Talking Heads. Also too, so apparently did Sarah as also too she, unlike you and I also too, she decide to live out the album and STOP MAKING SENSE. ;-)

16 11 2008
Anonymous

AZtopcat:

I was telling my husband today that Palin reminds of a comedian that used to appear on Johnny Carson show . He used to talk and use a flurry of words and phrases that made no sense. Unfortunately we could not remember his name.

————————-

Professor Irwin Corey, I believe.

http://www.irwincorey.org/

“One of the things that you’ve got to understand is that we’ve got to develop a continuity in order to relate to exacerbate those whose curiosity has not been defended, yet the information given can no longer be used as allegoric because the defendant does not use the evidence which can be substantiated by… what was the question?”

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Asiangrrl,

have the interview on repeat…you will sleep well.

For all who missed it, here is the CBS link

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4608192n

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

I’ll take on all losers and take your bets.. Thats right, me, Art Fern, will take those bets.. !

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Anonymous, ummm.. look back.. I had The Professor hours ago.. :) I loved Carson..! :) Yes, he said very little but took a long time doing it..

16 11 2008
Bea

Running through the comments at record pace, but HAPPY to see you HOME asiangrrl!

Please also too remember that we cannot “progress” this message board unless we are always pallin’ around together.

16 11 2008
Judy in Chicago

You’ve got to be very careful if ya don’t know where you’re going ’cause ya might not get there.

Yogi Berra

16 11 2008
Nisperos

Sarah, here’s why didn’t get the Hispanic vote, and why I’m glad it hurts you… (in the same manner that praying that you would take care of your family and do what was right for your kids was like heaping burning coals on your head):

Dios amanece para todos
God brings the dawn for all

Dios da y Dios quita
God gives and God takes away

Dios no cumple antojas
God does not fulfill whims

16 11 2008
snoskred

Happy news all..

The states project is now live. Find your local mudpuppies :)

Are you on this list?

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,3753.0.html

If not, there are instructions about how to get on the list.

Cheers!
Snoskred

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Ahh, i knew i’d find it.. The Schlossen Cutoff..

If you want to laugh… this is for you.. :)

16 11 2008
SMR

Sarah sucks. I am tired of reading about her, thinking about her, etc., BUT the commemorative issue of Times has an article worth reading, if only for the paragraph that says

“One thing the Troopergate report revealed is that she surrounded herself in Alaska with a feckless mix of cronies and yes-men and ceded far too much power to her husband. She would have to be a much better manager and judge of talent than that”

Here’s a link to the whole article (available via Time site, but buy the magazine issue for the historical value and the many other great articles!):

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1857003-2,00.html

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Marty, you always make me laugh… To the schlossen cutoff..
I can’t believe you said that! In my spouses family this became code for a certain exit on the Kennedy Expressway here in Chi. We were reminiscing
about the Old Schlossen cutoff and its origins on Johnnys show about a month ago.

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Marty, you are underestimating Palin’s narcissism.

She still thinks that she is intelligent and sexy.

She is psychotic and unless she has a major mental (such as …gee I am a total dim-wit) breakthrough in the next few years, she will barge through that cracked door and then…well I only imagine that it will be fun to watch.

16 11 2008
Aly

And Sarah, I am still very concerned about whether or not you faked a pregnancy, lied to the Alaskan people and the American people for that matter. You have offered up those “medical records”. Where are they? We want actual medical records from the attending physician who delivered Trig. Still waiting and we won’t stop till we get the truth….or a little DNA.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Bea, I saw your comments looking for me. Thanks! I appreciate.

Marty, I bet ya ten whole dollars that Sarah will run for prez in 2012 IF (and this is a big if) she’s not embroiled in scandal at the time.

SMR, you are right. Sarah does, indeed, suck. Full stop.

16 11 2008
Ennealogic

Ok enough, Sarah. ENOUGH. The word “progress” is a noun. Yes, it can be used as a verb, but in the transitive sense — “I think the experiments are progressing nicely.” BUT NOT AS AN ACTIVE VERB, for cryin out loud!

YOU don’t “progress” a nation or a state. You don’t “progress” a journey or a goal. You don’t “progress” a meal or a car repair or a housecleaning. You don’t “progress” a policy or a plank or a potato! Stop already abusing and misusing the language already!

I really did like the article from Dick Cavett (sorry, no link), where he said she has no first language. That sounds about right.

16 11 2008
Anonymous

This is off topic, but thought you guys would like this

http://www.kansascity.com/679/story/893792.html

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Copy, she may think she’s fully qualified, but the people who finance a candidate has to see there is some chance of a return on their investment, and by now, anyone thinking she’s a viable candidate is either as stupid as she is, and will lose a lot of money, or he thinks she’s hot, which will end up the same way.

What she thinks is irrevevant now. She’s the lead in Dead Govenor Walking.

Shikago, yes, I actually felt verklempt when Carson died. felt it was like a grandparent died. He was special, even as a kid, i’d turn on the old tube tv my parents gave me to watch him. They’d come in and feel the hot tv and yell at me.. And just go to the fork in the road.. :)

16 11 2008
HamletsMill

Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com (19:59:27) :

Anyone who thinks she’s gonna run in 2012 is on crack. There is zero chance of her ever being on the national political scene again. My guess is she’ll finish her current term, then become a pageant instructor for the girls of Alaska. Something she’s clearly qualified to do.

Even the most fervent conservative won’t put a cent into a Palin campaign. The GOP won’t give her a dime. Unless she’s got her own money to run, she’s not running.. And even then, the real GOP members know. They’re intelligent people, trust me, they see what we see, they just don’t admit it publically.
———————————————-

They will only use her in the sort run. But she is no Hitler. She is not formidable. She will not make a come back. She just does not have the chops. She would be destroyed in any Primary process by anyone who can stand upright a talk policy with a brain.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gingrich-says-palin-will-not-be-the-future-gop-leader-2008-11-16.html

——————————————-
AZtopcat (19:39:46) :

I got a kick out of her comment about the bloggers in their pajamas blogging from their parents basement. ………….Could that be us?? Ha!
——————————————-
That IS definitely us! Who else could it be! Little does she realize in her NPD addled brain that there are people on this blog all across the world who are a lot smarter and more experienced in life than her. And little does she realize that there are forces within her own political party that could arrange for an unfortunate snowmobiling incident or an unfortunate moose chili cooking accident if push ever came to shove. She has no savvy in life at all. She is totally middle class. She has never had to deal with the darker elements in life. I have a few friends who did some serious time at the Federal level who owe me some favors and have solid connections to certain elements in North Jersey. But my Buddhist morality and my knowledge of karma would prevent me from ever dropping a dime on someone. But it is a nice fantasy. But in this case nature will just take it’s course with no fuss and no muss. Every time she opens her mouth it is really a form of suicide before the cameras. I say pay her no mind. She is her own worst enemy. In essence, she has dropped a dime on herself. She, herself, may very well end up doing some serious Federal time along with First Perp Stevens! It could all get quite crowded in there. Just don’t drop the soap.

16 11 2008
whichferret

This is off topic but thought guys would like this one…as me this time *blush*

http://www.kansascity.com/679/story/893792.html

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Marty,

26 percent of the electorate is still pretty stupid…that’s what they call the “base” and it includes some pretty will financed Alaskans…

I will bet you 10 bucks that we will see her in the primaries

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Marty, so both copybook realist and I are betting ya ten bucks each…You up for it?
:D

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

copy we should put up a paypal bet site.. haha.. donate it all to obama in 2012..

But wait and see.. they ARE laughing at her. letting her dig her own grave before they push her in and cover it up. Concrete.. Ain’t no way she’s coming back.

Shes got a string of potential felonies waiting, the country thinks she’s an idiot, and even those who said they like her know. It’s like the parents with the really, really ugly baby.. ‘Oh she’s just soooo cute.. Love the goiter, and don’t worry, she’s only 2, she’ll lose 30 lbs in not time flat’..

They know.. they just didn’t say it.. :)

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

whichferret, I seriously doubt that W. lets anything penetrate the fog that clouds his mind. He can’t if he’s going to function at all.

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

asian, you said if,,, that’s not a bet.. :) besides, 2012 is pretty far off and collecting would be as tough as funding another McLost Campaign..!

16 11 2008
LibertyLover

starshine (19:58:19)

After the help she gave McCain… it looks like you might get that new Senator after all…

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Asian, she might want to run,, but those who control that sorta thing won’t let her.. it’s impossible. absolutely completely progressingly impossible.

Her kids will be older, and they’ll have read the stuff about mom, and will be embarassed enough. They can’t censor the kids reading.. They’ll get teased in school about mommy dumbo…

her ‘friends’ saw how she treated people she supposedly liked. She trashed anyone in her way to the top.

Again, it won’t happen. not if she was the only person left on earth..!

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Marty,

Well sure, it depends on who you are talking to and it depends on where they want to go. Brooks predicted that the repugs will continue on their current path, which Sarah, limbaugh and hannity, so far have the lead..in that they are the voice of the party. I don’t think that they will find their way out of the woods this cycle ( I have repug loved ones…believe me, they are a dense lot). Watching the Sunday pundits today, I would have to agree.

Lets make an agreement…no paypal nec. We will all agree to contribute our bet to ACORN!.

Perhaps a Forum betting pool? Can we keep it up for two or three years?

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

Obama’s not even inaugurated.. 2012 is a long way. Barbie will be a distant bad memory by then. She won’t even be offered VP next time. Odds are she’ll be in prison anyway..!

16 11 2008
Marty (VA) Mudstock DC Inaugural Party.. reply to mudstockdc@hotmail.com

it’s been fun.. im outta here.. maybe i’ll try the forum tomorrow.. ;)

16 11 2008
sapientaohm

I Love you guys!

16 11 2008
copybook realist

Marty,

This is pure wishful thinking on your part.

16 11 2008
SMR

Okay guys, I’m going ROGUE!

I’ve pasted this over on the forum secret holiday thread, but I’m doing it here, as well, to see if we can get a landslide response so that our overseas friends can be included. I’ve got 6 packages in the corner of my kitchen waiting to be mailed. 5 of them are to go overseas. I think I can handle one more. How about you???

QUESTION FOR ICY __ CALLING ICY ________________

If some of us volunteer to take on an overseas mudbuddy, understanding the increased postage & time, can we invite them?

For instance, if 5 of us raised our hands to volunteer for an overseas buddy could you send out an email and say you’ll take the first 5 who respond???

Come on team! We can do it! Let’s include our overseas friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Marty, well, obviously, she won’t run if she’s in jail. I wish I could be as certain as you that the numbskulls won’t prop her up again.

copybook realist, I like your idea of giving the money to ACORN. I’m in.

16 11 2008
itsanewday

Nice blog on Sarah-neze written by Dick Cavett.

http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/the-wild-wordsmith-of-wasilla/?em

Loved the Psycho Killer video….thanks!

16 11 2008
SMR

I agree with Marty! You are da man! She’s not gonna make it. With you ALL THE WAY!

My pressing issue is how to get her the hell out of Alaska. I’m ready to take that on once we find out whether or not the Legislature is going to wimp out on us…

16 11 2008
HamletsMill

PoliticsGingrich: Palin Will Not Be The Future GOP Leader

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gingrich-says-palin-will-not-be-the-future-gop-leader-2008-11-16.html

Make no mistake, there are long knives in the Republican Party. Money talks. How many fundamentalist Christians in the 26%er base have serious money? I say very few. And she can never draw from a mass Internet donation base like Obama did. And besides, exorcisms are expensive. Surely you have to tithe the full 10% to get that VIP service in the Universe. And credit cards just might not work anymore to pat for an exorcism if the CDS financial nuclear explosion event hits. There are many other Republicans who can draw the big money in 2012 if the Republican Party actually still exists and that is a quite debatable at this point. I say the guy to watch is Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan. But that is a long way off. If we don’t solve these problems, there may be no United States by then. So I am not going to talk about any of this anymore. The focus is NOW: 01/20/09.

Good night all!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

sapientaohm, welcome! Glad to see a new(?) face!

SMR, I don’t understand your post. Are you asking for people to post parcels for overseas members to a secret santa type of thing? Or to donate some money? Either way, I would be willing to help out–even though I don’t really do Christmas.

16 11 2008
MomsHugs Gnat (aka Eve)

Y’all hear of GA Rep. Braun’s statements about Obama “might just take us down the road to” Hitler’s’ Nazism cause he’s a Marxist & socialist?
Like take your pick also.

Our local paper has a vote online:
“What do you think of Rep. Paul Broun’s remarks (Hitler, Marxism) about President-elect Obama?”

Please, I’m begging mudpuppies everywhere take a stand against Rep. Braun – scroll down to vote.

http://www.onlineathens.com/

16 11 2008
nixmamaforobama

Could we add duct tape to the list of items needed to shut her up? Am I the only one who is as annoyed by her constant hand flailing and finger pointing as I am by her massacre of the English language? I swear someone needs to tape her hands to the d@mned chair!

16 11 2008
SMR

@asiangrrrl —

Did you not get this link via email?

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,3704.60.html

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

MomsHugs Gnats, I voted. I don’t know what’s scarier–his remarks or that nearly forty percent of the people who voted agreed.

Someone should tell the idiot that if he wants to see an American regime that got as close to fascism as possible, he needs only look at our current president.

16 11 2008
SMR

@MomsHugs —

You poor thing! It’s like living in Alaska, but without the cold. How could so many people vote that they agree w/him?

Ick.

I added my vote saying Broun’s a dipsh!t.

16 11 2008
copybook realist

OK…a little shout out here,

Join the book club in the Forum. We will be reading Three Cups of Tea. i have no idea what it is about I imagine that there will be some lively discussions.

As far as the Palin presidential run issue; lets leave it as at this.

Everyone is in for 10 bucks….if she runs, you contribute 10 bucks to to Obama. If she doesn’t run, you contribute 10 bucks to ACORN. It is a Win Win situation.
When we get closer to the event we will make it more official. Personally, I hope that she burns like Icarus….

Night all.

I am on my 12 steps walk now, trying to break the news addition and the poor eating habits brought on by this Campaign.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

nixmamaforobama, how about just put her in a sound-proof room there she can babble at herself all the time and the rest of us don’t have to listen?

SMR, ah, yes, but since I don’t do holidays….So, since I’m not going to be part of the swap, that would exclude me, right? Thanks for clarifying for me.

16 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

I just had a long, disturbing phone call, with an old friend. I have been mainly avoiding him during election season, trying to forestall the sort of damaging conversation that we just had, which ended with me yelling and hanging up on him. I have never done that before, to anyone. What finally sent me over the edge was his rant on abortion.
But while we were still speaking, he proclaimed SP the poster child for feminism, lamenting how the Dems have slandered her, and referred to Camille Paglia’s views on Sarah, so I googled Camille and found this nugget in her post-election article:

“…I like Sarah Palin, and I’ve heartily enjoyed her arrival on the national stage. As a career classroom teacher, I can see how smart she is — and quite frankly, I think the people who don’t see it are the stupid ones, wrapped in the fuzzy mummy-gauze of their own worn-out partisan dogma. So she doesn’t speak the King’s English — big whoop! There is a powerful clarity of consciousness in her eyes. She uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist….”

Oh my gosh. Rippling momentum? Palinspeak as be-bop?
The content, or lack of any, doesn’t trouble her, apparently.
Or my friend. I’ll just bang my head on the keyboard now.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

copybook realist, night! Good seeing you again.

SMR, you made me laugh with your cogent and incisive description of Broun. Stupid idiot–he can’t even get his isms right.

16 11 2008
Swamp Buggy

You think Johnny might spring for some treatment? Or is treatment even possible? Maybe an intervention?

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein, Camille has long since become tiresome with her desire to be soooo counter-whatever. I wouldn’t think about what she said for more than a hot second.

As for your friend, tell him this about being pro-life: If you care so much about children, then stop cutting the programs that help the living ones in need! Or if you want to be rude, call him pro-birth since that’s all most of them really seem to care about.

16 11 2008
SMR

@scrimshaw —

That’s an old article, I believe. I remember other writers saying “WTF is wrong with Paglia’s head?” They figured that she had a big lesbian crush on Sarah. Does anyone here know if Paglia is, in fact, a lesbian. If she is, why on earth would your friend be citing anything that she says — she must fall under the going straight to hell heading for that sort of person.

By the way, there is no F$%#ING way that ANY man should EVER think that they are any sort of an authority on feminism. NEVER EVER EVER. I don’t care HOW enlightened they are. And your friend does NOT sound enlightened in any way shape or form.

This election, more than any that I can think of, has brought out the best & worst in people. I would say that it has brought out the best in my political self, and, sadly the absolute worst in the political selves of some of my relatives and friends who get their talking points from church, Fox news, Rush L, etc. I was registered Republican until after the Palin pick, so I am NOT saying this as a crazy liberal Democrat.

Some of these crazy people are people that I have just had to accept that if I do not talk to them for several years — at which point they will have seen that Obama is not out performing abortions & taking their guns — then I am perfectly fine with that. If they never see that and I never speak to them again I am okay with that too. We will have lost any common ground at that point.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Swamp Buggy, I think as with a drunken one-night stand, McCain wants to pretend he never met Palin.

16 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

And I forgot to include the link to the Camille Paglia article, in which she also says nice things about Obama, just before she rehashes his Bill Ayers connections in some detail (an old hand at the double-bind, I think.)

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/index1.html

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, Camille is an equal-opportunity user. Back in the day, she was the queen of frank sexuality or something like that. I don’t know why, but I have never given a crap about what she thinks.

As for abortion, I got some flack when I was in middle school for saying ultimately, it’s the woman’s choice. My reply always is, “Who has to take care of the child in the end? The woman.” For some reason, that makes people mad.

16 11 2008
SMR

@scrimshaw —

You will feel sooooo much better if you read the comments. There are some good ones!

16 11 2008
AZtopcat

CRFlats –
Yes, yes it was Norm Crosby. I could picture him but couldn’t think of his name. Thankyou. I can go to sleep now, Ha!

16 11 2008
SMR

@scrimshaw —

I suspect she IS a lesbian, see this tiny little bit from Wikipedia:

For some years, Paglia has shared a residence with the artist and teacher Allison Maddex. Paglia legally adopted the son Maddex bore in 2002.

In which case she just might be the ONLY lesbian to ever find anything to like about Sarah Palin.

Which also means it’s strange that your friend is citing her, shouldn’t he consider her the anti-Christ (after Obama, of course).

For me, personally, my cut-off with people is whether or not they buy into that Muslim/Anti-Christ thing. If they do they are off my island.

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

AKM and Lynn-in-Australia (19:02:17) :

Thank you both for the info.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, I think she was bi back in the day, but we don’t want her–she gives us a bad name!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Oh, and my personal cut off point is, do you think Palin would make a good prez? If so, buh-bye.

16 11 2008
SMR

Andrew Sullivan rocks! Check it out! The gloves are off!

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/alaskas-educati.html

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Andrew Sullivan is the biggest thorn in Palin’s side. He loathes her (probably because he’s a moderate conservative watching his party crumble).

16 11 2008
SMR

@asiangrrl —

You’re so funny. That’s a reasonable cut-off. But I live in AK, and some of my friends are just crazy, nice but crazy, so I have to give them the Palin as President thing. I do make it a point NOT to spend a lot of time with them, though, as they’ve been lobotomized by their pastors/deacons/etc.

I sincerely think she’s (Camille) given up on guys and is just giving lesbians a bad name these days…

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, hm. You have a valid point. Yes, the Muslim/Anti-Christ thing is a good cut-off point, then.

Camille gives womankind a bad name. Bah.

Oh, for the day when a bisexual, Asian American agnostic woman can dream of being president….

16 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (21:52:43) :
SMR, Camille is an equal-opportunity user.

SMR (21:56:25) :
@scrimshaw –
You will feel sooooo much better if you read the comments…

Thank you both for your help. And I do feel better now.

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

Thousands of pics from Nov 15 protest of Prop 8 from the Join the Impact flicker account: http://www.flickr.com/groups/946033@N23

I kept looking for photos because those posted on Mudflats from Alaska events spoke eloquently and somehow made me feel involved. They said so much about the individuals who were moved to show up; their smiles, body language, and witty signs.

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

SMR (21:03:42) :
I think your International Mudswap idea is a good one. I sorta felt bad for everyone outside the US who couldn’t participate, this is a good solution. Hell they should go for 20 sign-ups that would be 10 exchanges. If they come up with an odd number, they could post an Adopt an International Mudswap Orphan. :)

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Scrimshaw, good. You are a much better person than I. Just the fact that you would talk about this with your friend at such lengths indicates this to me. As I grow older, I find my tolerance for intolerance has grown quite a bit.

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Hau asiangrrl, how’s my sister tonight? We have snow flakes here in Chi, just a dusting so far.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Chief? Hey, bro, what are you doing up?

16 11 2008
SMR

@Asiangrrl —

Andrew Sullivan & Cajun Boy are my other blog addictions. Opposite ends of the spectrum with Mudflats in the middle.

I like Andrew. This election has had to make me re-evaluate my decisions about who’d I’d invite to dinner, you know when someone asks “if you could invite 5 people to dinner who would they be?” Do I get to invite the Obamas and the kids come but don’t count in the 5, do I invite my new mudbuddies, the bloggers out there that have made this election bearable? And should I leave one seat open for someone that I just want to be able to look at (David Beckham if he doesn’t wear a shirt or bring Posh)? So complicated!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

We had snow, but then it went away. I want more snow! I love cold and snow. I’m fighting off bronchial crap. How are you?

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, well, Alan Rickman and Joe Biden for me. Rachel Maddow! Margaret Cho….Oh, dear. There are too many. Five just won’t do.

I read Cajun Boy, but only sporadically. I have too many other blogs on my plate. Dang. I really need to write before I go to bed.

16 11 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

Friday, September 05, 2008

Sarah Palin
Current mood:Aware
Category: News and Politics
Let’s be clear: I am not looking for compliments or friendship on the internet.

I found the first post I wrote on the Mudflats, Sept. 5

I’m Canadian. To a large degree thanks to the progressive thinker, humanitarian, and Order of Canada recipient Dr. Henry Morgentaler, women may have abortions legally in our country. Anti-choice fanatics are in the fringe minority up here. I’m a young woman who’s never had an abortion or an unwanted child. Canadian junior high/high school sex education classes promote preventing pregnancies and sexual diseases. Condoms and birth control advice are available in high schools, clinics, doctors’ offices, and from AIDS outreach programs – thanks to administrators and community organizers who believe that religion has no place in public policy. Statistics indicate that safe sex education works (because kids are going to “do it” no matter what) to prevent teen pregnancies in Canada, especially compared to anti-choice U.S. states.

I feel for my American neighbours that this tacky Anita Bryant type character (whose name will be forgotten soon I hope) running for V.P., wants to reverse the status of American womens’ rights back to 1958.

Hopefully, with transparency and due process, all the bad she’s done to people and our environment will bite her in the ass soon, and she’ll be done like dinner.

16 11 2008
SMR

@Chief —

Well, I want US to be involved with the internationals too! Basically, the rules take into account the fact that the postage and time involved are greater, and that might not work for everyone. But I don’t care, most of my posting is overseas, and the cost really isn’t that prohibitive, esp for a small package for stationery. If it’s stationery you can say it’s paper and not even have to fill out the customs form!

So anyway, maybe I didn’t explain myself very well. What I was thinking was that if 10 (or 5 or 20 or ??) of us Americans raised our hands and said “I don’t care about the extra postage or time involved, I’ll take an international mudbuddy!” then however many of us there are there could be an equal amount of international participants, first-come, first-served.

Did that make sense?

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

I have been working for a few hours on a project, but lurking n reading comments (when I should be working). I will be on here for work this week, during the day, so I’ll have me mudflats handy. I’m going to head off to sleep though. So, until then…

toksha akhe!

16 11 2008
SMR

i am just typing this to see if I can figure out how to turn off bold

it probably will not work so bear with me

i hate this stuff

blah labh algh shogjpa9u08tjb blah

16 11 2008
SMR

how do i turn off bold. i give up.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, you just caught my loathing of unbolding. I do it all the time.

Hussein Canuck, those are just some of the reasons I would have fled to Canada had McCain/Palin been elected.

Chief Shikago, sleep well. I know too well about procrastinating by reading/posting at the ‘flats.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, how did you turn it on? Did you use the pointy brackets like in the box header? If so, you have to do the same at the end of the bolded term except add a slash (going up from bottom left corner to upper right corner) before the b.

16 11 2008
SMR

@Hussein & Asiangrrl —

I will be glad when we get that biyatch out of the office of Gov so that university students here in AK no longer have to pay more for their birth control pills. That biyatch raised the rates on them! Oh yes, much better for uni students to interrupt their lives to raise children! God forbid they should be educated BEFORE they have children.

I mean WTFH????????????

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN
16 11 2008
SMR

okay this is how I unbold asiangrrl thank you for helping

16 11 2008
SMR

Thanks, I hope that I can remember that!

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

SMR
Right, I am with you all the way. The Night Kitchen folks and US muddies would all be able to sign up. (Have an International sign up so folks who can afford the Intl shipping could sign up and as you said have an earlier ship date) This is what I thought you meant at first.. so someone in Germany may have someone in OZ who has someone in America who has someone in France. That wouldn’t need an equal amount of Americans necessarily. just sayin…

I love this place…

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

SMR, don’t worry. I always forget to unbold.

As for Palin and birth control, well, shouldn’t every woman have her first kid in her teens? What will it take for you to forcibly keep her in Alaska?

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

I hope they do it SMR!!!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Totally off-topic, but I just saw the pics of Palin in the hot pink t-shirt and short-shorts. She is in great shape, but isn’t it a bit revealing for a gov.?

16 11 2008
Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein

asiangrrl”Yes we DID”MN (22:29:35) :

Yes, only I’m afraid I negated any positive effects of the conversation by the way I ended it.
“G#% D^%& it!! Shut Up!!!”

I never learned to do anger well.
It shocked me. I wondered where it came from.
Oh yeah. The Right to Choose is personal, for me.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Totally off-topic, but I just saw the pics of Palin in the hot pink t-shirt and short-shorts. She is in great shape, but isn’t it a bit revealing for a gov.?

16 11 2008
SMR

@Chief —

I love this place too. I like the secret santa idea but it made me sad to do it while leaving out our great overseas friends…

Bet we can get everyone to put up their hands for including them! Besides, I need to replenish my overseas stationery. Okay, not really, I’m addicted to stationery and stock up wherever we are… Have some great stuff from Italy. All of it packed and ready to move to Calgary.

But anyway, will try to send am IM to Icy to see if she’s willing to revise her plan…

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

Palin unintentionally did a lot for Obama and the Dems in 2008. And she keeps giving.

” “If you can count, we need you in Minnesota by November 16 for training,” hollered an e-mail flyer that featured a winking Sarah Palin and was sent to party activists nationwide by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.”

MN hand recount starts Wednesday. http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/34498659.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUgOahccyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

asiangrrl
Almost forgot…
I thought of you earlier today. This was something I thought you might like to watch when you have 6 minutes(needs to be read). It is a tribute to Native American Women it is strong medicine for your spirit. Which I so love to hear in your words. The photo’s of these women are so powerful, marvelous people.

Toksha Akhe
Chief Shikago

16 11 2008
MudWoman

OK, if you get “Zits” in the comic section of your paper, check it out today. It’s how I feel after hearing Sarah ramble.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Denise, damn. I wish I coulda been in on the recount. Stupid Strib used to be liberal, but it got bought out, and is now moving right. They endorsed Normie.

Hey, SMR, that’s my litmus test in MN, did you vote for Normie and/or Michele “Wingnut” Bachmann?

16 11 2008
teri

What a long week of waiting for them to count our ballots.
Im so sick of listening to SP, and even reading the articles, I notice one thing….she says the same thing over and over.
I never knew our political leaders were so dysfunctional.

Today, on my word of the day (our language to my people) I sent an inspiring video. And, slowly but surely, the Alaskan Democrat people are putting in their votes for change.

I sent the shorter one with native music with the same facts.

Everyday, (Or almost) I send out a word in our language, sometimes I send videos or news clippings, or stories, today I felt a need to send that one.

I wanted to look up the word Change in our language, but in doing so, wanted to share this video. I hope you all have time to read it or view it.

We are one step closer to finding the change we need in Alaska. :)

You all have a nice evening, I have to go to bed!

I wasnt able to update my forum profile, and tried, will try again tomorrow.

16 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Good Night
Denise sansMSgaAZca, Mud Woman & SMR (anyone else I may have missed)

16 11 2008
SMR

@asiangrrl —

I can’t use that here! Too many people voting for Ted. I don’t get it, never will get it, hope I never understand the sort of mindset that it takes to vote for him (or for M/P for that matter — but there WERE people who voted for Ted but not for M/P). I just really can’t go there. I have to lower the bar (raise it for limbo?) for Alaskans. I’ll be really really glad to leave this state.

16 11 2008
teri

@ Chief Shikago, I didnt see your reply till I posted up mine, I have that video on my bebo. I love that! I kept saying to my kids, do I look like that lady, or do I look like her, and they were like no, no,,, for one thing you are in your pajamas. LOL. I love that video that you posted.
Enjoy! I have to get to bed, here, gnite!

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Chief, that’s awesome. Thanks for the link. I really appreciate it. I love learning about the history of women.

MudWoman, is it the one with the thick clouds of words smothering Jeremy? I just looked it up. Funny!

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Good morning from Nantes – anybody still up or just getting up?

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

teri, I love your video, too. Good night.

Chief, night, my brother. May you sleep in peace.

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

teri (23:02:11) :
Thanks. Have sweet and powerful dreams. Like the ideas you are sharing.

16 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

Hello everyone – just back from a weekend of Mudflats withdrawal… anything exciting happen? Glad to see Asiangrrl is back (I missed you last week!).

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

Hey AsianGirl. Glad to see you. Missed you.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Jamie! Hey, how goes it? How’s Marty? I am just going away, so I hand over my reins to you. Have a good day.

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

What am I reading about International Mudswap Secret Santas?

16 11 2008
SMR

@teri —

Wow! Great video! Beautiful!

Do you do the native word of the day here in Alaska?

16 11 2008
ian in hamburg

I wish more people would focus on her mental health. The diagnosis that she’s a malignant narcissist is quite accurate. Behind-the-scenes ragings? Check! Inability to listen to handlers? Check! Lying? The sense of entitlement despite clear lack of ability? Check and double-check!! List goes on.

read what makes a narcissist tick:

http://www.narcissism.operationdoubles.com/self_absorbed_narcissism.htm

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Ooh, soory I missed you asiangrrl! And thank you for asking, Marty is fine except pissed off a bit because we haven’t had sun in Nantes for days and days and that is how Bostons recharge – roasting in the sun all day.

Good night, asian, sleep tight, don’t let the Sarah Palin’s Bite

Someone fill me in on the Mudswap thing.

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Jamie! Hey, how goes it? How’s Marty? I am just going away, so I hand over my reins to you. Have a good day.

The Swap–you should have gotten an e-mail about it. SMR posted a link up in the thread.

Denise, good to see you, too. Same with you, A Brit Abroad. There’s no place like the ‘flats.

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Oooh Brit – I thought you’d be back today. Great to see you! It was quite sad without you here this weekend…

16 11 2008
asiangrrl"Yes we DID"MN

Crap. I double-posted. Jamie, here’s the link SMR posted:

http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,3704.60.html

Night, all!

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

ian in hamburg (23:10:28) :

I wish more people would focus on her mental health. The diagnosis that she’s a malignant narcissist is quite accurate.
+++++++++++++++

Plus Palin has boundless ambition. Bad combo.

16 11 2008
Denise sansMSgaAZca

Sweet and savory dreams. I’m off to find mine.

16 11 2008
SMR

@Jamie —

BEfore I turn in (have to get up at 5 a.m.) I’ll update you.

Secret Santa stuff, but the initial idea was to limit it to the US due to cost of postage for overseas packages, as well as the time involved.

I want us to be able to include our overseas mudbuddies, so I sent a PM to Icy (the organizer of the wonderful plan) asking if we could change it a bit. Asked if we could include international mudbuddies if there was a US-based mudbuddy willing to deal with the increased postage cost & early mailing. Hands up from Chief and me — we are willing to do it! So, if 10 of us volunteer to take on an international pal then the first 10 internationals who respond can be included. Of course I’m hoping there will be more who are willing to do the international bit. We’re a giving bunch! And there are plenty of international mudbuddies here!

will let you know what I hear back, or maybe you’ll get a mass comminque about it…

16 11 2008
A Brit Abroad

So much catching up to do…

Ian – much as I dislike homemade diagnoses I suspect that you are right about Palin’s mental health. (I married one and am still suffering from it – as is my son – not fun at all).

16 11 2008
teri

I do this, when I have time… (just finishing up a paper and will honestly go to bed. ) HA!

my email is haida_lady_99 at yahoo dot com, you can email me there and I will add you to the list. I have been doing this since 2004.

Just type in Sm’algyax list in the email so I will know to add you to the list I have. , when you write to me, its really easy to participate. We have an online dictionary.

Will watch this one more time while I type up this paper, and head to bed (Im a night owl)… glad you all enjoyed it!

once again, goodnight :)

Teri, I edited your email to use “at” and “dot” instead of the usual punctuation so the ruthless spam-bots won’t find your email and spam you. AKM

16 11 2008
SMR

@Ian —

One could further speculate that the reason that she didn’t release her medical records is that she has been diagnosed with a mental disorder &/or is taking meds for it…

I say bi-polar. She just doesn’t seem stable to me. Just sayin’ also.

16 11 2008
Hussein Canuck for Choice

As for Palin and birth control, well, shouldn’t every woman have her first kid in her teens?

Good one, Asiangrril.

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

@SMR

Thanks. I went to the forum, added my name to the list then messaged Icy with my name and address and I hope she got it! I’ll wait to hear…

@Denise – just wanted to add : malignant narcissism usually does come with boundless ambition. I too have experienced this with ex-business partner.

16 11 2008
SMR

Good night everyone! Time to turn in!

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

In going back and rereading the posts re: the Santa Swap (whatever) I thank all of you that are willing to put in the extra postage so we, too, can play. As it is we already feel SO LEFT OUT because we couldn’t be in the States to canvass, knock on doors, work the phone banks, experience Nov 4 voting lines or join the gang at Grant Park, so if we had been left out of this too…..it would’ve just sunk the ship! So thanks and hugs!

16 11 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

Nighty night SMR

16 11 2008
akmuckraker

New Thread!

Put on your Adventure Boots!

17 11 2008
Apphouse50

For shame!

Clearly the person who posted this clip is an American-hating terrorist, because this is torture, pure and simple.

You know it’s bad when, as you’re listening to someone drone on, the image in your head is of the impressionist who mocks them. For me in this case, it’s Randi Rhodes. Every day from 3 to 6 at Novamradio.com. It’s one of the things I do to get much needed comic relief.

If I were an Alaskan, I’d be starting an impeachment movement. For crimes against the English language.

17 11 2008
nonni_g

her voice makes my ears bleed and my teeth break; that’s why I cannot listen to her for more than a nano-second, also, you betcha…I have asked Auntie Em to please send a house to drop on her in Alaska, but so far, no tornado’s in Kansas….also, too, I had to beg my banker for forgiveness the other day; she wished me a good day and told me to come back soon—–and I answered, YOU BETCHA! oh. my. GOD. It took me two steps to realize what I had said. I turned around and said, “I really didn’t just say ‘you betcha'”… unfortunately, I really did….ugh…..I’ve been Palinized….is there a cure yet? other than a lobotomy? oh yes, I forgot, there is a cure—IT’S CALLED PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOOOOOOOOOORRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

okay, I’m over it now….have a great Obama day

17 11 2008
Bethsy in the Midwest

I hope I won’t offend anyone whose position on abortion rights is different from mine. However, I keep thinking about them in the context of the relentless Ayers attacks.

Palin refused to say that people who bomb clinics or shoot doctors who provide abortion services are terrorists. The fact is that the folks with whom Ayers was affiliated always gave notice that they were planning something so that nobody would be hurt. The nuts who bomb clinics and shoot doctors and nurses have no such scruples–they aim to hurt and murder.

I sure hope that the lady who’s suing for the emails continues. And that the house investigation proceeds full steam ahead. This is a dangerous woman who needs to be removed from any position of authority.

17 11 2008
Andrea

Darn tootin’ she’s bad for your health. She’s the political equivalent of Tourette Syndrome. Try as I might, I can’t shut up about her. Because she keeps, y’know, doin’ stuff.

to wit:

http://www.englandforobama.com/when-sarah-palin-hates-you-you-know-youre-doing-something-right

17 11 2008
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Re: double binds, well, my motto isn’t “embrace the ambivalence” for nothin’. I’ve found that the only way to listen to her is to turn her off. It’s quite pleasant with the mute button on, actually. Adding this to my Must-Read section. Thanks!

17 11 2008
oregongranny

Please …. make Moose Nugget Barbie shut up! Stuff a hockey puck in her mouth!

17 11 2008
oregongranny

Caribou Barbie is so insulting to caribou. :-)

17 11 2008
Chief Shikago

Trying to navigate forums from my mobile. :( not workin too well. I need to get a laptop, like now. My massive monster computer systems are in the basement of what was my parents home (years ago) and im in my pj`s! So, I am going to get another cup of coffee and go down and power up. I must be the most insane muddy for reading/commenting from a 12 key cell. Me needs therapy.

17 11 2008
Glenn2008

The real Sarah:

17 11 2008
pvazwindy

She drives those Alaska guys wild with all that skin. makes you wonder what lever there pulling on when they vote for her.

17 11 2008
forkboy

I posted a short piece on my Myspace page about the ongoing hypocrisy of the Republican party. It spent months trying to convince Americans that Obama is a Muslim, a hater of Israel, a socialist, a Marxist, a friend of domestic terrorists, a raiser of taxes, and the list goes on.

The question is: why do the Republicans now want to work together with this man to move the country forward? After all, why would they want to associate themselves, in any way, with a Muslim, a hater of Israel, a socialist, a Marxist, a friend of domestic terrorists, a raiser of taxes, and the list goes on?

It’s obscene. And I really wish Obama would tell the Republicans to go screw themselves.

17 11 2008
cathie in ny

Sorry if this has already been posted – it is hard to believe the gall of this woman.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27755392/

17 11 2008
halcrow

@ cathie in ny (06:54:54) :

Add in the $3 million (and the new snow machine for Todd), and she’s up tp $10 million, plus whatever she vacuumed out of the Republicans for walkin’-around money during the VP gig.

All Ted Stevens seemingly got was a recliner, a Viking BBQ and other gifts worth $200,000 retail, spread out over 40 years…and seven guilty verdicts.

Hardly seems fair, right?

17 11 2008
carolucky

Wow…. unbelievable. That woman scares me.

Thanks so much for sharing the doulbe-bind concet, since I wasn not familiar with it.

Awesome blog, keep it up!

17 11 2008
Sarah of Arizona

If the other Republican Governors she says she speaks for are smart, they will step up asap and make it very clear that she is speaking only for herself. She makes them all sound like idiots when she does that. She thinks she is now the leader of the party. I hope she does run in 2012. She will be the comic relief.

17 11 2008
katek formerly cd

I lasted about 2 minutes and then I’d had enough. Although I appreicate YOU, AKM for posting it. Sometimes I can listen to her but not today.

slightly OT@Hussein Canuck for Choice: I’m Canadian too and older than you and I had a few friends and acquaintances in university in the 70s who lives were probably saved by Dr. Morgentaler. One reason why I am pro-choice.

SP’s been in Florida and Gerogia. Don’t you get the impression she’d rather be anywhere but home?

17 11 2008
amsterdamcheapo

Yes, she could be a cheap stripper, but she’s done a good job of being an average hottie.

17 11 2008
Frank LI,NY

Hmm here is a little something that SP, just might have to worry about.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/half-baked-in-alaska-pali_b_144132.html

17 11 2008
slc

Perhaps John McCain did us a great service in letting us get to know Sarah Palin before she appeared as a Republican candidate! Surely she has given us and fellow repubs enough ammo that she wouldn’t even make it out of the primaries!

17 11 2008
nearlynormalized

Do not know how the Alaskans have put up with her, who voted for her? Beyond humor, downright stupid.

17 11 2008
the Norwegian Blue

@ Hussein Canuck for Choice (22:53:25)

Anita Bryant, exactly — another former loony beauty queen with the same annoying verbal tic of saying “a place called Norfolk, Virginia” instead of just “Norfolk, Virginia”…the same way SP says “the great state up here of Alaska”
See a classic pie in the face for Anita “Come to the Florida Sunshine Tree” Bryant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS91gT3XT_A

BTW I am cutting way back, trying to go Sarah Palin-free. To celebrate I’m renouncing my Rankle Hiway Palin honorific (especially as there seem to be two of us!) and going back to (MIchael) Palin basics with this screen name.

17 11 2008
bjalexa

Palin’s Ayers attack is so lame as to be laughable. Has she heard Bill Ayers talk? Does she have any idea what he does for a living? I think some network needs to get Palin and Ayers together for a face-to-face interview and sort this out. EIther put it to rest or let it blow up.

Sarah and her followers are the only ones concerned about Ayers at all. As a matter of fact, when I hear that someone is concerned about it, it signals me immediately that they’re uninformed and part of the wing nut brigade.

17 11 2008
Gypsy Cat

I am SO glad I found this website!!!! There are other people like me.

My whole life in Anchorage is one big double bind.

I know Sarah Palin is a whack job. I know she’s stupid beyond belief.

But here I sit, each and every day, in the middle of a Sarah Palin love fest. I spoke out against her ONCE before the election, and was forever barred from ever working on the north slope again. At least w/ my current employer.

Sarah Palin is ruining my life.

17 11 2008
blahgblahg

Can you imagine what would happen if she worked in a post office? I nearly went postal on my TV when I couldn’t find the remote control and Larry King Live was on its second round of the Palin pest.

17 11 2008
Jones

“There’s just something about her that troubles me”. That’s what I think everytime I see her on TV. Thanks to your blog entry, I now have more clarity.

http://www.jonesview.wordpress.com

17 11 2008
Naomi

What a great post! I sense some bitterness in her voice when she was talking about the campaign – I don’t think it does her any good to keep talking about the “domestic terrorist” association. I think she just needs to let that go.

17 11 2008
Ed

I agree, she sounds like some kind of broken Stepford wife who keeps repeating herself and stammers when she talks, like a robot who short circuits occasionally,… Hilary Clinton, Condaleeza Rice, Pelosi, and many other women candidates don’t do this.

17 11 2008
curly

It’s a shame she’s had to retire back to Alaska- I was having so much fun!

17 11 2008
Carson Park Ranger

God, you poor northern bastards. We finally get rid of Bush, and you people are stuck with your own noxious version of the same weed.

At least our own Governor Arnold Schwarz — sorry, still can’t spell it — is sufficiently articulate, and has a good sense of humor.

You have my deepest sympathy.

17 11 2008
infogama

i don’t know babar blas. because i can’t english very well

17 11 2008
N. Harjo

“Funny you should say that.” Damaging for children? There’s an understatement. Sarah Palin reminds me so much of my mother that I often accidently call her Virginia Palin. Virginia was a Christian Reconstructionist aka Dominionist who venerated the same vicious people who solidly back Sarah. I vowed when Pat Robertson (for whom Virginia campaigned SO hard) ran for president that if the U.S. ever became like living in my mother’s house, I’d emigrate or commit suicide, only I wouldn’t fail next time. (I ran away several times and attempted suicide twice, once at age 8, once at 18.) One of my siblings is still hiding out in a Buddhist monastery at the other end of the country. People say Christian Reconstructionists are a fringe group. Not so. They are dead-serious and as insidious as termites. Google the movement and you’ll have the same nightmares I have, which Palin has intensified horribly. Think they’re harmless? My mother ran for Republican Committeewoman AND WAS ELECTED. We were all so relieved when she died, and we thought she was mouldering in the grave in Florida, but NO, here she is trying every-which-way to weasel into the White House! We can’t get rid of Sarah! She took over the Governors’ Conference here, and they couldn’t talk of anything but her! Can’t you Alaskans do something? Find some rabid wolves or an angry polar bear or a vengeful moose? Freeze her up in an igloo? Impeach her? — And by the way, has anybody up there seen Zina Saunders’ painting of Palin with her airplane and rifle, holding the carcass of a dead, bloody Statue of Liberty? http://www.drawger.com/zinasaunders. — “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from our shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.” – James Madison, 4th U.S. President. For our democracy’s sake, do something about her or secede!

17 11 2008
Swamp Buggy

N Harjo sorry to hear you have had it so rough. I certainly can understand. Wow. ian in Hamburg above remarked about how he’d wish people would pay more attention to her mental structure. I think he’s correct. I’ve had some experiences with these types, too much experience. I’m wondering if dear Sarah isn’t more than just NPD, how much has been related as to her conscience and her emotional range? Her empathy. This maybe my subjective pov but from the moment I heard her speak at the RNC the idea of moral insanity crept into my mind. M.I. being the 19th century term for sociopath. The problem I have with these markers or categories of understanding is then what? A huge segment of the population simply give a pass to this type of behavior if it is directed towards what they view as an acceptable goal or apocalyptic future. This kind of acceptance drags or attempts to drag all other processes down with it. It is infected with an archetypal uneducatable daimonic energy i.e. trash with interminable energy. Something out of a horror movie, or in the case of Ms. Palin a whorror movie. The incongruities of the meaning of the idea ‘maverick’ and the invoices for most likely well over $200,000 in high fashion clothing (and what this speaks to) will never be addressed, in fact it is to be understood that to bring up such inane comparisons should qualify one to be ostracized, shut out of civil doings of business.

18 11 2008
Snowplow Shovel Palin fka olay biscuit Palin

A clear case of someone of no cerebral substance – ADHD tempered with an immense sociopathic ego. Cannot articulate a coherent thought…runaway trainwreck. How did she get to be Governor? Seriously- put her in a room with Bloomberg, Shwarzernegger, Jindal et al and she looks like the “special ed” Gov. Quotas in Alaska? Serious minds want to know!

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19 11 2008
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