Troopergate I Shares Documents With Troopergate II

18 10 2008
Sen. President Lyda Green and the Giant Binder of Confidentiality.

Sen. President Lyda Green and the Giant Binder of Confidentiality.

Think of it as a changing of the guard.  The first Troopergate investigation (the one from the Alaska Legislature) has concluded, finding that although Palin was within her legal rights to fire Walt Monegan, the Commissioner of Public Safety, she DID abuse her power and violate the state’s ethics code. 

The new guard is another investigation, prompted by Palin herself, from the Personnel Board.  Presumably Palin went to the extraordinary lengths of filing an ethics complaint against herself because she felt that the Personnel Board would be a friendlier investigative body.  This may or may not be so.  Crackerjack Anchorage prosecutor (and Democrat) Tim Petumenos has been hired by the board as the special investigator. 

Petumenos has asked the Legislative Council to turn over the confidential information from their special investigator, Stephen Branchflower.  The Legislative Council made public a 263-page tome with the snappy title: “Report of the Investigation of the Circumstances Surrounding the Termination of Former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan and Potential Abuses of Power and/or Improper Actions by Members of Governor Sarah Palin’s Administration, Volume I, Public Report.”  It’s Volume 2 we’re talking about.

Volume 2 makes Volume 1 look like a flimsy paperback, and contains information utilized to come to the conclusions that were stated in the public report. Everything in Volume 2, is not for public consumption.   I didn’t even know they made binders that big.

So, meanwhile, the Personnel Board and its investigation, which operates out of the public eye, marches on.  We don’t know when they will be finished, we don’t know when they will release the report, and we don’t know what the report will say.  But every once in a while, like a surfacing whale,  we catch a glimpse of this mysterious investigation, before it sinks out of sight again.  And we wait.

Media frenzy as the Legislative Council Releases the Branchflower Report.

Media frenzy as the Legislative Council Releases the Branchflower Report.

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18 10 2008
Forty Watt Hussein

“Report of the Investigation of the Circumstances Surrounding the Termination of Former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan and Potential Abuses of Power and/or Improper Actions by Members of Governor Sarah Palin’s Administration, Volume I, Public Report.”

I love this. it’s like one of these pre-Victorian book titles that go on for ever.

Wonder how long we’ll be waiting,

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Am I number 2?

18 10 2008
prettybrowntee

Am I finally First Weeeee!!!!!! LOL I hope that they finish before the election is over. Not that it will make much of a difference. The will put a spin on it either way. Sad to say

18 10 2008
prettybrowntee

Darn #3 :(

18 10 2008
Deb

wow-no wonder it was 263 pages…half of it was the TITLE alone!

18 10 2008
MonaLisa(inCT)

(Nawt second! Oh, wait… wrong blog)

And so the waiting begins again….

18 10 2008
Lori W.

I hope they work fast and furious. I hope the media will pay attention to their findings (presuming they WILL find abuse of power again and again). HOPE HOPE HOPE.

18 10 2008
RM_TX

What are the chances that the two Personnel Board appointees from the previous administration will be perfectly willing to throw Palin under the bus, given the evidence to support doing so? After all she trashed their governor so they are not beholden to her.

Yes, Murkowski (and his daughter our “other” senator) loathe Palin. Presumably a Frank Murkowski appointee can’t be assumed to be a fan.
AKM

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

I would love to see the report before the election. Got a feeling, it won’t happen.

18 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

Well, good for them for sharing. That’s what I like about our legislators, their willingness to share the wealth, as it were. Hope he finds something useful in all those pages (and does he have enough staff to help him read through it all?).

18 10 2008
copybook realist

AKM…the whale reference is classic.

please let us all know when you come out with your first book

how long have you been using this writing talent of yours?

18 10 2008
prettybrowntee

who is watching SNL tonight? I dont want to watch it since she is going to be on. somebody just type in the details. LOL

18 10 2008
Deb

there are some that will be watching…not I though (doing my silent protest) I’m sure there will be details here

18 10 2008
Teresa

Nope not watching, they are condoning a person who was found “guilty” of abuse of power and thinks she’s above the law, and I sent my comment to SNL.
http://www.nbc.com/Footer/Contact_Us/

When will OJ make his appearance?

18 10 2008
Deb

I may go watch a good movie….I want to be sure and catch meet the press tomorrow…I AM interested in seeing what Powell has to say (if anything)

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

Since we got a new thread, i’ll reprise this for those who missed it..

Since a lot of you won’t watch SNL…

Here’s my story line..

Scene opens with Failin sitting in a classroom of kids sitting in a semi-circle.

Failin starts to read a story to the kids but the door opens and in walks a wolf. He’s limping on 3 paws. He goes up to Failin and says: “Hello Nice Lady, someone cut off my front paw and it hurts really bad. Can you help me?”

Failin sits, stone faced, reminscent of GWB.

She starts to read again, and the door opens again, and in walks a polar bear. He walks up to her, and says, “Hello, nice lady, my ice is melting and i can’t hunt for food and i’m starving to death. Can you help me?

Failin sits, stone faced, reminscent of GWB.

She starts to read again, and the door opens again, and in walks Barack Obama. He walks up to her and says, “Hello dear lady, I’ve been maligned and lied about. People have said really mean things to me. Can you help me?

He helps the wolf and polar bear as the leave humming the theme from the wizard of oz.

Failin says nothing and they show her face.

Trig crawls in, and says ‘mommy, can we go home now?”

She looks down and says ‘get out of my face, ya brat’

Close scene.

Thats my idea of a perfect SNL.. :)

18 10 2008
Deb

damn…too bad they couldn’t get OJ on WITH SP….think of THOSE ratings!

18 10 2008
copybook realist

I am actually going to try watching SNL…..with a glass of wine and a small bin of Haagen dazs to get me through it. (So much for the diet.)

My hope is that they will use humor above Palins and the “real” americans heads…sort of what they did with McCain and the child molestation bit.

one can only hope

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

Deb, the rumor is he’ll endorse obama. the thinking is if he was endoring mccain he’d have done so a long time ago. There is simply no upside in him endorsing mccain at this late date, but obama is another story.

So, lets hope. don’t know what his endorsement will do, but every major face helps..! especially a repub.

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

I got a feeling he is going to endorse McShame. I pray I am wrong!

18 10 2008
MonaLisa(inCT)

“Crackerjack Anchorage prosecutor (and Democrat) Tim Petumenos has been hired by the board as the special investigator. “

This fluffs up my comforter.

18 10 2008
prettybrowntee

OH that right I need to find out what time Meet the Press comes on here so that I can watch it. I an anxious to know what he is going to say

18 10 2008
Deb

well after being “set aside” by bush…one can only hope that he has had time to ponder a bit over history

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Not watching. Not any time. ptui!

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter (19:24:22) :

Deb, the rumor is he’ll endorse obama. the thinking is if he was endoring mccain he’d have done so a long time ago. There is simply no upside in him endorsing mccain at this late date, but obama is another story.

Maybe he feels like he can help McShame’s ratings, but I sure hope he thinks this through…if in fact he is going to endorse McShame tomorrow!

I have the utmost respect for Powell, and pray he does the right thing! I hope he will put Country First this time!

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Ahh, troopergate ii..so, anyone know, if this report comes out after Palin is VP (God-forbid that happens, but I’m gonna play devils advocate here and say it does), and finds that she violated laws as Governor…can she be held accountable enough to be ousted from the office of VP easily? Obviously, impeachment is always an option, but it’s a messy and drawn out one…is there anything legally that would state that, if she is found to have egregiously violated some Alaska law while an elected official, she is able to be held liable even after being elected to higher office? Would give me a little added calm to know that, if this situation were to occur, she could, in essence, have her license revoked.

18 10 2008
mizkay spackle hussein camshaft

No, I’m not watching either.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

Annnd, here are my ideas for SNL

Palin enters Tina Fey’s dressing room as Tina is getting ready to be Palin.

Palin: Oh, hi there. I wanted to ask you to be on my cabinet when I’m prez, doncha know. You’re a maverick, and I like mavericks, doggone it!

Fey: Um, that’s nice, Mrs. Palin, but I’m an actor and a writer, not a politician.

Palin: Gosh darn it, you don’t have to worry about that! I mean, I’ve seen you on the T-V. You have as much experience with governing as me.

Fey: I was playing you, Mrs. Palin. I don’t have any–

Palin: Gosh darn it! No wonder you sounded so smart!

(She drops the folksy tone) Please, you have to help me. I don’t know what the hell I was thinking accepting this nomination. I should have blinked! I should have blinked!

Fey: What do you want me to do?

Palin: Take my place! I’ll be you and you’ll be me! Please, ya gotta help me.

Fey: Sorry, Mrs. Palin, I have my rep to protect. I don’t think you can be yourself, let alone be me.

Something like that.

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

“Report of the Investigation of the Circumstances Surrounding the Termination of Former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan and Potential Abuses of Power and/or Improper Actions by Members of Governor Sarah Palin’s Administration, Volume I, Public Report.”

Dang, that is a snappy title. LOL Sure am glad they’re bringing in the Members. And since they’re naming it Volume I, I guess there will at least be a Volume 2 followup.

I can’t watch SNL tonight. I just can’t make myself up their ratings when I know I can catch it online tomorrow.

18 10 2008
Sparky

I won’t be watching SNL…it just doesn’t feel right to me and I can’t think of any humor with SWWNBN there. Just me…

I even took her name out of my blog name long ago because I didn’t like looking at it or giving her any recognition.

But I will certainly read anything Mudpuppies write if they are watching.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

I had to read the title three times because I kept falling asleep. Troopergate, the sequel! Has a better ring to it.

18 10 2008
SoCal Bob

If Powell endorses Obama it will be the event of the year. You’ll hear a giant “Yippee” from this part of the world.

18 10 2008
Deb

intelligent- lol@ “license revoked”, but I get your drift…unfortunately, if you look at what cheney and pals have done and walked away unscathed from, I do not have much hope that once elected anything would happen to SP, no matter what the 2nd report says. It appears that SP has plans to be even MORE powerful than cheney in that office.

18 10 2008
Teresa

oh please… even playing devil advocate make me sick…can you imagine a continued 4 year soap opera…. Canada here I come….

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

umm folks.. unless you’re a Neilsen Family and are hooked up to their ratings box, your watching SNL won’t improve their ratings.. ;)

just thought i’d toss that heads up..

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (19:28:27) :

Dang, that is a snappy title. LOL Sure am glad they’re bringing in the Members. And since they’re naming it Volume I, I guess there will at least be a Volume 2 followup.

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Volume II is the 1,000 odd pages that are so juicy we aren’t allowed to see them.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

My hope is that Powell will endorse Obama – after all, he and Biden agreed on the first Gulf War. Powell was a fairly vocal force in the administration for using sanctions and a buildup of forces around Kuwait to force Saddam to retreat before any serous military action. Overall, his record shows him to be, in reality, a fairly competent, thoughtful person on foreign policy – someone who would prefer to sit down and talk things out, not even bringing the option of force to the table, but letting it remain in the wings to be called into the room as a last resort.

18 10 2008
Deb

I am really hoping that Tina Few has/had the “balls” to decline to appear with her….we all know that Tina has no great affection for SP

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN

Great idea. And I think we all know Tina Fey would be a much better VP than Sarah. But didn’t she say she was leaving Earth if McCain/Palin got elected? In fact, I think I’m with her on the same train out of here!

18 10 2008
prettybrowntee

I agree Deb nothing is going to happen to SP. No matter what the outcome. The Republicans will again bury it.

18 10 2008
Deb

damn…for some reason whenever I go to type FEY, I end up typing Few …sometimes my fingers have a mind of their own!

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

Tina is on.. not sarah.. at the moment

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Does anyone know which sponsors are in on the SNL marketing bonanza tonight?

18 10 2008
Deb

ok check “that one” (tina) off my “women with balls” list

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

there she is.. barf

18 10 2008
Sparky

but…….I WILL tune in to Ellen’s show on Monday to watch my mostest favoritest Scrapper and “I’ve got your back, Barack” next US VP, Joe Biden. :-)

Joe joked that he hoped he wouldn’t embarrass himself on Ellen and cause any points to be dropped from the polls for Obama/Biden. But I heard he did just fine.

18 10 2008
copybook realist

Here is a good piece by Rich

He Just Can’t Quit W

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/opinion/19rich.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

McCains campaign has been such a joke…..how can anyone believe that he will be a competent leader?

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter (19:33:54) :

Tina is on.. not sarah.. at the moment

Please tell us what’s going on…you are the only one with nerves to watch SNL tonight.

18 10 2008
Deb

given that Joe six-pack is on…I would assume a beer company, aussie…but I’m not watching

18 10 2008
obamamama

Updates on SNL? I can’t watch it from here. Thanks

18 10 2008
Democrat G (formerly G)

Stalin was just on SNL. As usual, dull, boring, and LAME! Tina Fey got it right as usual!

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

alec baldwin is tormeting palin.. thinking she’s tina

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Deb, I think she’ll be there. From how coy she was on Letterman, she’ll be there. I see Tina Few has stuck in your mind!

@Crust Scramble–SouthGA, yes, that is what Tina said. I am with her all the way.

@intelligentbydesign, I fear that nothing more than a slap on a wrist will come out of this. If she is sent back to Alaska, I hope Alaskans will keep up the pressure to recall her.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Point taken, Deb. Guess we can only hope that if that horrible situation comes to pass, at least this time, there’s a pretty strong force in place to hold accountability. Biden did a great job of calling out Cheney and Palin in the first VP debate on that whole issue, and with a democratically controlled congress and a populous that is becoming more and more aware of the unseen, unheard, unknown powerful office of VP that has been created, there will be enough outrage. Just a note of hope though, I believe I heard on NPR yesterday that the Obama campaign has something around 5,000 lawyers in Florida to watch at the polls…nice to know there’s finally the possibility of some real accountability! I’ll try and find the story if I can, and will post if anyone is interested.

18 10 2008
Karen

Someone posted this on Huffington Post and it made me laugh: “i’m secretly hoping that they try to trick her… like have brian williams waiting in the wings to give her an impromptu interview… noting that it will be live she won’t really be able to run..”

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

now she’s doing her fake press conference.. no questions. she sucks

18 10 2008
Deb

I think I may puke….and not at SP on SNL…but at how she will SPIN this all week!

18 10 2008
Tom from PA

It certainly was not flattering to SP. I think Tina Fey is way hotter too.

18 10 2008
Hick Town in W PA

Spiro Agnew broke state laws and had to resign. I think they offered him a deal to get rid of him because what he did was worse than reported. It was a lot of graft and so on. He and Palin are quite similar except he had better verbal abilities.

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (19:32:46)

So what’s Volume 3?
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intelligent by design

>Overall, his record shows him to be, in reality, a fairly competent, thoughtful person on foreign policy .<

He lied about WMD’s in Iraq.

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

wonder if she’s done. she sucked so far..

god i hate the woman.. wonder what she did with trig.. probably stuffed him in a locker.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Sparky, Joe the Senator is gonna be on Ellen on Monday? He’s gonna dance? I’m taping it! Thanks for the heads up, though I’m sure I could find it on the web.

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Yesterday I was reading about breaching the cultural divide. Maybe it’s a good thing for the Palin fans to tune into liberal elitist comedy.

And speaking of breaching the cultural divide, I’m hereby outing myself as a Dwight Yoakam fan.

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

hick i remember spiro agnew.. i lived in md when he was a corrupt gov.. sound familiar??????

18 10 2008
Deb

over these past 8 years, I have often said that cheney was truly at the “helm”, not bush…..well, cheney and a few pals

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

SNL – not so funny. Palin pretty stiff. Alec got in some insults right to her face – “thinking” he was talking to Tina. Mark Wahlberg shows up too. He is really pissed off (in real life) about a skit they did of him. So some extra added humor when he says he is really upset about the skti they did about him. Palin says — “tell me about it”.

Stiff. Didn’t do her any good.

18 10 2008
LA

Marty,
But it makes me feel better not to watch…just like when I yelled at McWeasel when watching the debates…:)

18 10 2008
braveny

Someone on the previous blog was looking for wording in regard to the voter scam votergate, etc… to write to politicians.. at the bottom of this page are some ideas, and a handy dandy little form that will auto mail to your current politicians. very handy, and helpful. also emails the local newspaper of your choice.

(http://www.velvetrevolution.us/prosecute_rove/)

18 10 2008
Karen

I posted this on the previous thread before noticing this new one – if, hopefully, Powell endorses Obama in the morning, it will keep Palin from dominating the news cycle.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Tom from PA, I agree. Tina Fey is much more attractive, and smarter, and funnier. She’s the real thing.

18 10 2008
Deb

believe it or not, yahoo had an excellent article today about ACORN and voter fraud…I should have copied the link….but maybe it is still there

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Sarah told Alec her favorite Baldwin is Steve Baldwin — Alec’s religious fanatic brother — of course.

I detected a bit of “arousal” in Sarah when Mark Wahlberg joined the scene.

18 10 2008
Deb

lol marty I was a college student vp….i.e. one of those “effete intellectual snobs” agnew liked to deride

18 10 2008
prettybrown

The real Mark Wahlberg is there. I love him. hmmmmmmm Go mark

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

The next report will be Volume 1 of the Personnel Board report. Volume 2-22 of that report (the confidential part) will be the size of Webster’s Dictionary. Alaska won’t be able to afford to publish it! :D

18 10 2008
Sparky

@asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN (19:39:17)

Ha…I read that he didn’t bustamove, but that was deemed “okay!”

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

2 skits.. no failin.. maybe she left

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Deb, so true. The Invisible Cheney was the puppetmaster with W. being his puppet. I am afraid that Palin would, if elected, try to usurp more and more power as VP.

Does anyone else find it funny that all the conservative pundits are being Chicken Littles about an across-the- board Democratic government? I do. The less mature part of me thinks, “Nah, nah, nah, nah nah” while the more mature side wants to remind them that it was the all-Republican government who got us into most of the mess we’re currently experiencing.

18 10 2008
braveny

I really am praying that this version of troopergate where SP had herself investigated backfires on her. I don’t think it is turning out the way she expected it to. Doing the same thing over an over expecting different results is the definition of insanity, isn’t it?

I put the pictures of the crowd in Missouri on my desktop also, it looks awesome. Sometimes I wish I lived in a battleground state so I could participate in rallys like that, my state is true blue. So I do the next best thing and participate here with all the mudpuppies! love to you all. (CA)

18 10 2008
Sparky

@Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter (19:45:22) :

Hope she remembered to grab Trig on the way out :-)

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Deb (19:37:45) :

I think I may puke….and not at SP on SNL…but at how she will SPIN this all week!

********

I know what you mean, Deb. This crap gives legitimacy to one of nature’s most uncool people ever.

18 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

RM_TX (19:16:09) :

What are the chances that the two Personnel Board appointees from the previous administration will be perfectly willing to throw Palin under the bus, given the evidence to support doing so? After all she trashed their governor so they are not beholden to her.
++++++++++++++++++

I had speculated about this possibility. Afterall, the gov that appointed them got nixxed for ethical misconduct. So why hide Palin’s misconduct?

Perhaps from a pragmatic perspective, it might come down to what exonerating Palin means to the appointees themselves. Sad to say that we all know how sometimes personal benefit rises above public service.

18 10 2008
Deb

asiangirl-EXACTLY….why was it ok for the GOP to run the government, but it’s not ok for the DEMS??? damn…I’m feeling “anti-american” again

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

I was just talking to my daughter and she early voted in Chicago on Friday – and she got reprimanded for wearing her Obama button into the polling place. She wasn’t aware that was a “no no”. She was already in the voting booth and had walked past a few other poll workers. Apparently one of them was designated the campaign apparel police. Kind of shook her up. I said I sure hope they counted her vote. They did of course. But just warn your friends and family to be careful. Don’t need any scenes at the polls to detract from the voting experience!

18 10 2008
Marty (VA) Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter

she doesn’t need trig.. no crowds to exploit him..

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

Scarah has 9 lives….nothing is going to happen to her. I’ve lost faith in our Democracy!

Please talk me down!

18 10 2008
Deb

many states have laws that prohibit “campaigning” within certain distances from the polling place……better to be safe than sorry!

18 10 2008
prettybrown

Obama and hillary will be here in Florida Monday. I am soooo excite I am going to see them. I am in a battle ground state and I am trying to volunteer as much as I can to help our state be blue.

18 10 2008
Let'sGetReal for "That One"

I’m calling it a night! Until tomorrow!

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Deb, it’s especially heinous when they keep prattling about how big government in gonna get. Oooh, be scared of the bogeyman! Well considering where dereg has gotten us, I’ll take a soupcon more of government, please.

Also, why is it never pointed out how hypocritical it is for the Republicans to claim they are against government when they want to legislate what a woman can do with her body, how schools teach sex ed, and who can get married?

18 10 2008
Deb

Let’s- the absolute WORST thing that can happen to sarah, is that obama win and she fades away into obscurity….this is a PLUS for all of us, while being her worst nightmare

18 10 2008
prettybrown

Yeah ya really shouldnt were any Obama attire when you go vote. The count that as campaigning. It is supposedly not allowed

18 10 2008
ds55

October surprise! October surprise! October surprise! Wheee!

18 10 2008
Sparky

And have you ever noticed that if a Repub candidate is a veteran of the US Military, they’re heroes, no matter what (“W” where the f*** were you?)

but that any Dem Military service is “ho-hummed” by the Repugs?

John Kerry…numerous awards for bravery; Al Gore 2 (I believe) tours of duty in Viet Nam on and on and on….

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Before I say goodnight,

I just gotta say, I am SO sick of McCain’s whining. Every time I turn around, he’s grousing about somebody else. I do not want this sniveling idiot to be in my government, much less in my White House.

Sleep tight, mudpuppies.

18 10 2008
Deb

asian….I may regret having said this…but when I have read some of the scare tactics written about riots in the street if obama is elected, I wonder WHO exactly would be rioting…..it has been the liberals and minorities who are the most vocal and active dissenters……so the rethugs are actually gonna get off their butts and take to the streets????

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Crust Scramble – A lot of people were sold that lie, and in turn sold it out of faith in the elected officials of the nation they loved. And a lot of them are not happy about it. Powell, I believe, is one of them. Overall, Colin has shown himself to be a person with a true love of country, who has never fully bought into the warmongering. Granted, he didn’t exactly stand up to it in the early days of the second Iraq war – but almost no one did. I still remember thinking it was a little too soon, and mentioning to people at the time that “maybe we should be taking a page from Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis and saying ‘I dunno…we need more thoroughly vetted intelligence before this kind of thing’” and being argued against by even some of the most liberal people I know who now go so much against the war.

On a somewhat related note, there is an interesting study that has recently been released by a University of California political psychologist on the benefit of experience in making foreign policy predictions. Basically, over 2 decades of study on 80,000 questions, he found that experience had no relation to correctly predicting future foreign events and how foreign policy would help to shape them. No one did any better than a coin toss. The only way that odds were improved was when a group of foreign policy experts was assembled, and had to debate the issue, and come up with a solution that was agreed upon by all parties. Interesting article. Can be found at
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/10/05/a_talk_with_philip_tetlock/?page=full

18 10 2008
MonaLisa(inCT)

What if we all just wear blue to the polls?

18 10 2008
braveny

I just heard the sign cam went offline due to phone calls received..

18 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

intelligentbydesign (19:33:04) :

My hope is that Powell will endorse Obama – after all, he and Biden agreed on the first Gulf War.
+++++++++++++++

The media is making a lot of it. In that respect, it would be good. However, for many Dems and Indys it won’t matter because Powell lost so much credibility by going along with the Bushies.

Anybody see W yet?

18 10 2008
Lacy Lady

I hope Colin Powell endorses Obama tomorrow on Meet the Press. I don’t blame him from resigning his post, after the way he was treated and lied to. They made a fool out of him with false information.
I was happy to see that Obama had a great turnout in Missouri today. This was in St. Louis. Think he is in Kanas City tonight.
Just wondering—–was there a Rallly in Alaska Today??????? if so, I hope pictures will be posted. They are always great.

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

prettybrown (19:50:59) :

Obama and hillary will be here in Florida Monday. I am soooo excite I am going to see them. I am in a battle ground state and I am trying to volunteer as much as I can to help our state be blue.

******************************

Lucky you! Won’t it be so good to see those two stumping together?

18 10 2008
Deb

mona….subtle and I LIKE!

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Let’sGetRealforThatOne, no matter what she does, her numbers are slipping. Super-conservatives adore her and see her as the bright, shiny star of their party, but most of the moderates loathe her. She has a base, yes, but that’s about all. She is the flavor of the month. She is a one-hit wonder. There is no there there. Feel better? Neither do I.

18 10 2008
copybook realist

@Let’sGetReal for “That One” (19:50:03)

from the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.,

If you lose hope you lose the vitality that keeps life moving… you lose the courage to be… that quality that helps you go on in spite of it all. And so today I still have a dream.

We will beat the B@&ch!

18 10 2008
Siege (GA)

In opening skit, Tina Fey was good as usual (they ragged on SP and McCain too) and then it cuts to SP watching the monitor with Lorne. She did seem a little stiff but handled it. The appearance of Mark and Alec sort of diffused the focus. Then she comes on stage and passes Tina. She says she will not take any questions but will say “Live from NY…” My husband came up and rewound so I don’t know if she is in another skit.

18 10 2008
Bea

OK folks, here it is…. Palin on SNL:

(Meh– not going to change any minds about her, IMO)

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

braveny (19:56:41) :

I just heard the sign cam went offline due to phone calls received..

*******************

I’m sorry to hear that (some folks can’t stand to see people happy). Jeff Merkley is way ahead, BTW.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Deb –

Sad to say, but that’s possible. After all, the “intellectual elite” is more likely to voice their opinions through media and other sources, and attempt to challenge thing through the legal process. It used to be that there was even a level of intellectual conservatism (IE, William Buckley/son Christopher, George Will, David Brooks) who had some sway and could stave off such base reactions…but they’ve all gotten pretty disgusted with the way things are going lately in the Republican party too.

18 10 2008
prettybrown

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (19:57:25) :

yes it will be good to see them together. I know there will be sooooo many people there. The energy will be awesome. I can wait.

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

We had talked on here before about not wearing campaign stuff to the polls – I just hadn’t talked to my daughter or thought to warn her. They are just doing their job. Chicago is probably much more fair about it. I can see in some of the voter rights problem areas – they might even refuse to let people vote at all. So this really does need some attention with the general public. There are so many first time and extremely enthusiastic voters heading to the polls this year.

18 10 2008
Enjay in Eastern MT

Evening all — looks like I have a lot of catching up to do here in Mudflats

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Deb. There is a minority of hardcore rightwing Republicans who probably will riot if Obama wins.

18 10 2008
braveny

@bea says video no longer available

18 10 2008
braveny

but I don’t want to watch her anyhow, no way, no how, no palin.

18 10 2008
Deb

hmmm….never thought of a rightwing riot….what do they burn…..mccain’s 7 houses?

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@copybook realist, I’m pretty sure MLK never said the last line!

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Thanks, intelligentbydesign. I’ve bookmarked this and will read it tomorrow. And I agree, that he was pressured to believe it (or, at least to put it out there). But I do think, like many, he failed to listen to his gut and as a result, he failed to stand by his principles. Maybe he believed this was a ‘good’ war; maybe not. But I’ve yet to hear him state that he screwed up when he put his faith in his President. If he comes out for Obama tomorrow, perhaps he can assuage his guilt. But like all of us, he can’t have a do-over.

18 10 2008
prettybrown

wow they are going to riot against their president? that would not be country first. LOL or a love of America. They would be domestic Terrorists. LOL

18 10 2008
pamela

@Deb, The thought of repubs taking to the streets…much funnier than SP on SNL :-)

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN

@Deb, hahahaha. That’s funny. Sadly, I think they will find other destructive things to do.

18 10 2008
phoebe

God knows I hate to be a wet blanket…….but as for Colin Powell….too little ….too late. I’m sure he will endorse BO but doesn’t show a lot of
chutzath.

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Off Topic: I am watching SNL and if what I seen of Palin is all
she gets, she wasted her time. It appears that they received
our emails. All she said is “Live from New York, It’s
Saturday Night!”
That was all she needed to say. Tina
had already made her look like an a$$.

18 10 2008
Deb

asian…I hear that….but, I’m trying to stay light here tonight :)

18 10 2008
Deb

maybe cindy mccain will riot by throwing some of those expensive clothes out???? a kind of “civil disobedience” moment for her?

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

>Deb (20:08:49) :

maybe cindy mccain will riot by<

divorcing McLame and leaving him with the campaign debt.

18 10 2008
Deb

crust!!! now that thought is FUNNY!

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Rarely will I find myself defending a Repub, but Powell…I gotta give him credit where it’s due. It is quite possible that the truly believes that, even though the war was wrong, and he was misled, to question a seated president and war when there are so many issues surrounding it that still need to be resolved does more harm than good. I’ll personally leave my judgement of Powell until after this is all over, and his true feelings on these issues come out. It is possible, though, that he is truly following his gut in feeling that it is better for him to silently oppose now.

18 10 2008
shilo442

Sorry for this but I hate some of the people in our country, just watching CNN and the worst of America is on. I feel sorry for these racists, ignorant people and I am sad to say they are living in my country. I blame McCain and Palin that ignited the fire a lot more. Funny always be afraid of a colord person, but we do for sure see a lot of White folks that we have to be terrified of, I’m white and I see more hatred in my race and I’m ashamed of them.

18 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Well, SNL has been on for over 30 mins and I’ve yet to see Palin on it.

Thought she was supposed to be on the 25th?

Maybe I fell asleep during that one small segment.

As for the “confidential” material, some of it must be subject to disclosure under public records laws. Something that fat simply is not all privileged or confidential. Or maybe some will find it’s way to the desk of the confidential discloser for a well-timed leak.

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

Thanks, Deb. It was your ‘civil disobedience’ that made me think of it.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Before I get jumped on though – Powell may feel this way ONLY because of the position of authority he has been granted to speak on such issues. If he does feel this way, it doesn’t mean he thinks the average citizen should not be questioning things much more than he is able to.

18 10 2008
Deb

I’m sure the rethugs have been desperately trying to lure powell to the “dark side” with promises…powell is at a point in his life where he doesn’t need promises and has nothing to lose….he can afford to show his true self….so we shall see

18 10 2008
Lila
18 10 2008
Michele

intelligentbydesign (19:27:54) :,

The Constitution is specifically vague on qualifications for prez and VP, stating only that they must be “persons of good character.” There is no specific provision excluding felons from the office, but I would think a pretty strong case could be made that their ‘character’ was not so ‘good.’ If Palin were charged and convicted of a criminal offense, she would be toast, but there is no way that could all happen before the election. Ineligibility for ethical violations or misdemeanor offenses, would be more difficult to establish. Since half of Congress falls into those cateogories, I doubt they would push too hard to exclude Palin from office based just on the Troopergate findings. As VP, she would not be exempt from further action by the State of Alaska, (despite what Cheney believes, the Executive branch is not actually above the law) and that might be the best option for Alaskan’s looking to prevent her from taking national office. Pepper her and her adminisistration with so much legal paper that a case can be made she will be too busy and too distracted cleaning up her old messes to take care of the people’s business as VP.

18 10 2008
Karen

Powell is not going to cost Obama any votes and should help with some undecideds and military. It might be a plus that it’s this late because it gives a little extra boost that might take the focus off of McCain and his nasty campaign.

18 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

In case like me you missed McCain on Letterman

18 10 2008
prettybrown

Well I do have to give it to powell because he questioned Bush and powell actually lost his position for it.

18 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Michele – I don’t know if I am agreeing or disagreeing with you, but Palin’s close connections to an anti-American secessionist makes her a person of poor character. jmho.

18 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Deuce2 AL (20:07:30) :

Off Topic: I am watching SNL and if what I seen of Palin is all
she gets, she wasted her time. It appears that they received
our emails. All she said is “Live from New York, It’s
Saturday Night!”That was all she needed to say. Tina
had already made her look like an a$$.
———————————————–
I went out to get a snack at my local Sheetz on purpose just to miss the opening. The thought of her on my favorite TV show of all time is more than I can stomach. Please, dear God, get this person off of the stage of history ASAP! I see the YouTube link is already taken down for NBC copyright violation. Did I miss anything? The description is enough for me. She said the signature line. Now GTF out of the studio. And I hope she does not hang around to stand on stage at 12:59 AM when the sax player does the traditional ending. When will the nightmare be over?

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Michele –

I understand the basic constitutional parts, but what I don’t understand is:
if a person is convicted/charged with a jailable offense committed while an elected state official after they have attained the office of VP, does the states right to prosecution stand above the protections of federal executive office?

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Sauerkraut – shedevil was on in the beginning of SNL and not much too it. The rest of the show has been quite boring tonight. They didn’t do themselves any favors. They should have stuck to a skit by Tina. I believe Palin’s “people” must have hounded them for a chance to be on and Lorne Michaels, with his Republican leanings, caved in. I’m sure the rest of the cast loathed it. I can’t believe Alec Baldwin was talked into coming on – but he did have the best lines – putting her down. Saying the things he feels in real life. Nothing won for Scarah tonight.

18 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

asiangrrl – Palin does indeed have a base, and it’s similar to that body part most of us sit upon.

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

I am confused by the Palin appearence on Saturday Night Live. Which one in the hallway was Palin and which one was the llama’s ass? Was Palin the one standing next to Lauren or was that the llama?

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

OMG – she is back on SNL.

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

intelligentbydesign (20:11:51) :

Rarely will I find myself defending a Repub, but Powell…I gotta give him credit where it’s due. It is quite possible that the truly believes that, even though the war was wrong, and he was misled, to question a seated president and war when there are so many issues surrounding it that still need to be resolved does more harm than good. I’ll personally leave my judgement of Powell until after this is all over, and his true feelings on these issues come out. It is possible, though, that he is truly following his gut in feeling that it is better for him to silently oppose now.
—————-
I appreciate what you’re saying and I applaud your loyalty. I have been a major fan of Colin Powell’s. I thought he and his talents were misused and abused by Bush, et. al. But, I was disappointed after his resignation and retirement from public life that he has not been more vocal about his position on issues. He just kind fell off the map. And now, after dancing in London, he’s set to appear on “Meet the Press’ tomorrow. I’m glad he’s willing to stand up and say he thinks the vitriol against Obama is wrong, but where in the hell has he been? Seems sort of opportunistic to me.

18 10 2008
Sparky

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/17/2008-10-17_signs_that_republican_colin_powell_will_.html

“Signs that Powell with support Obama”

I’m still not sure about Powell, but great if he comes through.

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

Palin is back on again …or is that the llama’s ass again?

18 10 2008
phoebe

It was clear at the time that Colin Powell was playing careerist with the right wing cronies. He forfitted any credibility he had when he bought into it & ends up in the status of the right wing wannabees.

18 10 2008
ds55

OMG! Eskimo rap on SNL! LOL!

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Weekend Update. They are doing a rap. this may be funny. My son is laughing. They are pimping out Todd.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Crust Scramble–SouthGA, that’s what I’m talking about! She needs to ditch his ass and make him pay, pay, pay.

@intelligentbydesign, I gotta back you on Powell. Yes, he was duped, but afterwards, he did everything in his power to correct that mistake before resigning in indignation. I respect him for trying his best to get us out of a bad situation.

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

They just shot a moose.

18 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

ugh… just a bit of a take off on her comment to Gwen Ifil about how she wouldn’t follow the rules in the VP debate. That’s all she’s got?

That is frikken pathetic. I was hoping for some self-biting like McCain on Letterman or McCain at the roast the other night.

How terribly underwhelming Sarah Palin is.

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Guy in Moose costume. Falls to the floor. Amy P shooting a gun. It was funny. Pimp on Sarah and she seems to be enjoying it.

18 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Oh s**t! They have her on the Weekend Update! But Amy IS brilliant as usual! Even with HER water about to break! I love her!

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Rap is over – but I would like to read the words to the Rap Amy P did – because I bet there is some hidden stuff there to put down Palin.

18 10 2008
protus

This is the paid off board.

18 10 2008
upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama

The next Elwyn Tinklenberg? RNC ads for the Elizabeth Dole campaign are smearing her opponent, Kay Hagen, for having “Godless” friends…and we all know that “godless” is right up there next to anti-American. My God, these repugs are desperate. Et tu, Liddy? Here’s the story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/gop-attacks-doles-opponen_n_135882.html

And here’s her opponent, Kay Hagen’s act blue page, if you have any spare change and you feel so inclined. This Senate seat is a key piece of the push for a filibuster-proof Dem majority:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18560

It’s a bit like running around putting out fires, isn’t it? Wouldn’t it just be a hoot if the internet was the end of shady politics? i mean, the sheer amount of information we have access to regarding who’s acting up, who needs help, how to help, who to call, etc. is simply mind-boggling. I love it!

Goodnight all. Can’t wait for Meet the Press in the a.m. Sleep tight!

hose Hussein hotrod

18 10 2008
copybook realist

The early word from the DailyKOS. through FIX news. Powell will endorse Obama

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/224747/35/683/634952

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

Well there goes the entire election. Expect the swing states to swing wildly to McCain Palin tomorrow morning. What a game changing appearance!

18 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

Okay, that was funny!! And, maybe it’s me, but when she started ‘boogying’ , did she remind you guys of the rotten fairy godmother in “Shrek”?
I have to hear that again,…they really cut her up and she’s too dumb to know?

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

I’ve said this several times on Mudflats – Sarah is going to get a Fox show when this is all done. The way she was sitting at the Weekend Update News Desk – she just looked to much at home. At least we won’t have to watch her on FOX!

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

…not.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@sauerkraut AKA Palin Pity Party, another good laugh! Keep ‘em coming, folks.

As for Powell, I believe everybody has the right and ability to change. I think he was so embittered by the end of his tenure, he gave up the fight. I am willing to give him a fair shot tomorrow.

@shilo442, hang in there, ok? Any time you need to vent, come here and let it out. We’ll be here to listen.

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

It’s now 11:30 CST in Bama. SNL just completed a rap song
with Palin. Sarah couldn’t do it herself and Amy did her part
for her. The song was SICK AND SAD. I hope that
they don’t bring her on again.

18 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh :
I think it will work against them,…it just made her look as dumb as she really is.

18 10 2008
Teresa

Zzzzzz Zzzzz West Coast thanks you for saving us time and their SNL ratings….

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

robo calls and a robo vp

18 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

ahhh… the Sarah Palin skit.

fartface!!!

18 10 2008
wired hussein differently

Okay, wait…

SignKid gets on national news (what was it? CNN?) and is now 404 file not found because of phone calls? What kind of phone calls? This is a smart, nice kid (as I recall from coverage on the local Portland tv news). WTF? Was he threatened?

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Obama KC rally tonight — 75,000 — more photos on Daily Kos

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/213024/26/738/634881

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

worst Saturday Night Live ever, none of the skits have any redeeming value. They just did a skit of men sitting around calling each other “fart face.”

18 10 2008
ds55

Someone will post the video with lyrics for the SNL Eskimo rap song by tomorrow.

18 10 2008
Crust Scramble - SouthGA

>upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama (20:30:01)

My God, these repugs are desperate.<

And just plain tacky.

18 10 2008
Karen

I hope the news release about Powell’s statement is correct. I wish he’d say something about McCain’s lack of judgment in choosing Palin. That alone is enough to disqualify him for the office.

18 10 2008
Deb

eyes…whew…you had me worried there for a minute……

NOT

but, as I said before, I was not so much worried about how FANTASTICALLY she would do on SNL….it was more that SNL just gave the liar more “fodder” for her stump

18 10 2008
Karen

I think she’ll wind up on Fox too. Will they let her do her show from Alaska?

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

Palin’s narcissistic ego is so great she was enjoying the weekend update skit and bebopping to the music with her head. What a clueless fool. Some village in Alaska is missing its idiot tonight.

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Bec Hussein in Illinois (20:36:09)
=================================
Fantastic Pictures! Thanks for the link Bec.
I truly feel that an endorsement by Colin Powell
will be great for Obama and from many of the
posts I have read, I am not the only one that feels
this way.

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

…bet they could convince her to tap dance for us.

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Karen – I think Fox will make a spot for an Outdoor Show for First Dud, too. Or – a reality show about Sarah and her crazy family.

I suggested yesterday – they’ll probably offer a show to Michele Bachmann after she gets booted from Congress. Sarah and Michele are just the kind of women those Fox men loooooooooooove.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Sorry for the slow response – took a short break to make dinner here. =o) As to the Powell comments, and those who wonder “where has he been”, he’s been exactly where he was when they wanted him to run for President – enjoying life with his family, and not wanting them to be dragged through the mud. Gotta respect a guy for that, even if it’s not the choice you’d like him to make.

18 10 2008
Sparky

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/

“Bachmann comments raise at least $400k for opponent [updated]”

heheheheheheh…in your face, Bachmann!

Grassroots action works!

18 10 2008
Deb

it looks like the powell endorsement post MAY be a fraud….at least that’s what I’m reading….

18 10 2008
Sparky

oops, sorry, I got a little snarky there.

18 10 2008
Steph aka Beans Harpoon Hussein-Palin

Updated numbers at the Kansas City Obama rally is 75,000
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/

I heard that the St. Louis MO Rally had 100,000-a record breaker!

18 10 2008
copybook realist

This is funny…especially if you have a right swinging loved one.

The Republican Whisperer: Remedial Training For The Conservative Beast

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/224747/35/683/634952

18 10 2008
copybook realist

DEB,

oh drats….I thought that it might be too good to be true. I am still hoping that he will come out into the light

18 10 2008
akbearable

Hard to know what Powell will do tomorrow. On the one hand he is dutiful, like a good soldier, but will he be loyal to the GOP or to the nation? He got swept up in the fog of war like almost all of congress during the runup to Iraq war, but he did try to throw the brakes on too by saying of Iraq, “if we break it we fix it” which is what we have since spent trillions doing. It will be awesome if he comes out for Obama, but either way he is going all the way this year, the year of the Democrat!!

18 10 2008
Karen

Yep, it’s a fraud – stole the quote from here: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBTgn

18 10 2008
LA

Hey Mudpups…zip over to HuffPo and see the big headline
“Palin a Serious Liabilty for McCain”…….you betcha

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Deuce2 — I actually broke out in tears this morning when I saw the St. Louis pics. Now these. Go Missouri.

I read the article on Daily Kos about how the conservative bloggers were saying the St. Louis photo was photoshopped and there couldn’t be the crowds. I looked at their map and figured out where the major road was they said was missing – they just couldn’t visualize the angle of the photo.

To be honest – all the comments they posted about the St. Louis rally – we’ll we probably sound the same way to them when they visit Mudflats and other pro-Obama blogs. We obviously aren’t very kind to McCain and Palin. We can both be nasty with our comments – but the difference – we are NOT racist over here.

18 10 2008
Teresa

“it looks like the powell endorsement post MAY be a fraud….at least that’s what I’m reading….”

I find it hard to believe he will endorse, JM is his friend and it would be a big slap in the face, he may vote for Obama but I don’t see him endorsing O publicly.

18 10 2008
mae in baracuda country...

What is worse than Palin?
Lyda Green, Wicked Witch of Mud Lake.

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

St. Louis rally is amazing, especially since it is the one swing state that had McCain ahead in the polls. Rally has to have a powerful effect in the local media. Any St Louis, Mo. mudfatters on line tonight who can fill us in?

18 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Videographer talking to “folks” at a McCain Palin rally in Ohio. They look like ordinary people, no obvious disabilities, until they speak.

18 10 2008
Pistol Tanker Palin

When are Alaskans going to recall Palin? Just askin’

18 10 2008
Karen

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-on-snl-with-t_n_135887.html
Huffington Post has both videos now. That second one was really painful to watch.
Notice that Sarah didn’t use her fake accent tonight.

18 10 2008
MJC

Today Obama Quietly Bought Food for a Widow and a Disabled Roofer in Need

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/18/20635/849/791/634836

**THIS IS A SAD BUT TOUCHING STORY. i WISH WE COULD TAKE UP A COLLECTION FOR THIS FAMILY.

18 10 2008
LA

Hi Sparky…….+waves+ from So Sac.
LA

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Karen- you are right about the accent! What a phony.

Scarah did stay until the closing. I saw one person hug her – the rest were not coming near.

18 10 2008
Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh

God, pandering Palin hung around to the end of the show so she could waive bye with the cast. I DID NOT see Tina Fey on the stage.

18 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Oh Gawd! She was on at the close of SNL ! But at least this is NOW OVER too. Check ANOTHER ONE off. The LAST CHECK is coming. The one that says – YOU LOSE – now go back home. Now I can watch the local TV show analysis of the Steeler game plan for tomorrow in peace before bed time. Life can go back to normal. Please. Soon.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@copybook realist, I don’t think that was the right link. Post again, please?

P.S. How was the pie?

18 10 2008
Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca

Okay. This is scary. Serious voter purging.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/172558/32/882/634737

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

@Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh (20:45:02) :

…bet they could convince her to tap dance for us.

_________________

It’s a damned shame they didn’t make her play the flute ….

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

mmmm…pie…might have to go get some pie…along with a bottle o’ red before sitting down to subject myself to the horrors of the Palin on SNL. I’ve now read about the painful accident here, but still, there’s something about watching on the screen…damn you interlaced lines of moving color!

18 10 2008
Sparky

Hey there backatcha, LA! Waving madly myself! ;-)

18 10 2008
copybook realist

Asian Girl

The Republican Whisperer…I hope that the link works right now. If it doesn’t work you can find it on the DailyKos

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/19/01335/190/1018/630549

The pie OK…I opted for low-fat which was a mistake. it wasn’t bad though…now I need to work it off

18 10 2008
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (21:10:07) :

@Eyes Wide Open In Pittsburgh (20:45:02) :

…bet they could convince her to tap dance for us.

_________________

It’s a damned shame they didn’t make her play the flute ….
—————

Honest to God, she is so deluded that I think she would actually do that. I am actually starting to feel sorry for her. How can a person be this deluded in life? But I’ll try to snap out it. She has, after all, tolerated incredibly shameful hate speech at her rallies. OK. It has passed.

18 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod Obama (20:30:01) :
“RNC ads for the Elizabeth Dole campaign are smearing her opponent, Kay Hagen, for having “Godless” friends…”

Godless used always be he lead in to Godless Communists in McCarthy days as part of the House Un-American Activities Committee denunciations. It was also typically coupled with n***** lover. It sounds like they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel, but it stands to reason since they are knuckle scrapers after all.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@copybook realist–the linked worked! Thanks.

Next time, get full fat and work out more. It’s worth it!

18 10 2008
prettybrown

Karen (21:00:16) :

Thanks for the Post. OMG they walked all over Palin. LOL Why was she there she did do much of anything. LOL

18 10 2008
LA

Okey dokey…just watched SP on HuffPo. A new all timelow for SNL. What a shame. I remember when it was the Big Deal to meet on Sat nite and watch the show.
Sparky…how are your doggies?

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@copybook realist, that was very funny. Loved it!

18 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

According the HufPost bloggers SBL was pretty bad, but that was somewhat alleviated by Obama commercials – so I hope no one is thinking of boycotting all the sponsors [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/palin-to-appear-snl-tonig_n_135834.html].

18 10 2008
Dragon Lady

Part II – Hannity’s Radicalism in America tomorrow at 9 pm. Gosh, missed Part I. Think he’ll name names?

After Michelle Bachmann on Chris Matthews I sure hope the FBI got the names of the 100,000 people at Obama’s St. Louis rally today and the 50K at his K.C. rally. Quick! Call Homeland Security! Radicals everywhere you look.

I say: You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
(Like that one Bec?)

PS everyone check out Michelle Bachmann at Wikipedia. She makes SP look normal. (Almost.) (Not really.)

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@LA, SNL hasn’t been really funny in a long time–except for the election bits this year. I am waiting to watch SP tomorrow because I don’t want any (more) nightmares.

18 10 2008
Lana, KY

GREAT NEWS ~ AKM , THE WHEELS OF JUSTICE KEEP TURNING.

I WATCHED SNL AND IN MY OPINION SOMETHING WASN’T RIGHT ~ I’D ALMOST BET SHE WOULDN’T DO WHAT THEY HAD IN MIND FOR HER TO DO ( OR COULDN’T. ) THE WHOLE SHOW WAS PRETTY PITIFUL. I CAN’T SEE IT DID HER ANY GOOD AT ALL.
I DID ENJOY ADELE’S PERFORMANCE.
THE BEST PART OF THE WHOLE 90 MINUTES WAS AN OBAMA AD (HERE IN KENTUCKY) ABOUT HALF WAY THROUGH THE SHOW.

18 10 2008
ds55

I got the “Eskimo Rap” lyrics! I got ‘em! I got ‘em!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-on-snl-with-t_n_135887.html

One, Two, Three!

My name is Sarah Palin, you all know me.
Vice President nominee of the GOP.
Gonna need your vote in the next election.
Can I get a Whoop! Whoop! from the senior section.

McCain got experience, McCain got style.
But don’t let him freak you out when he tries to smile.
Cuz that smile be creepy. But when I’m VP
All the leaders in the world gonna finally meet me.

How’s it go Eskimos! (Eskimo!)
Tell me, tell me what you know Eskimos. (Eskimo!)
How you feel Eskimos? (Ice cold!)
Tell me, tell me what you feel Eskimos. (Super cold!)

I’m Jeremiah Wright so tonight I’m the preacher.
I got a bookish look and you’re all hot for teacher.
Todd lookin’ fine on his snow machine.
So hot for each other we got no between.

In Wasilla we just chill, baby chill’a.
But when I see oil it’s Drill, Baby, Drilla.

My country ’tis of thee,
From my porch I can see
Russia and such.

All the mavericks in the house put your hands up!
All the mavericks in the house put your hands up!
All the plumbers in the house pull your pants up!
All the plumbers in the house pull your pants up!

When I say Obama, you say Ayers!
Obama! Ayers! Obama! Ayers!

I built me a bridge, it ain’t goin’ nowhere.
Oohhh!

McCain-Palin gonna put the nail in the coffin
Of the media elite.
(She likes red meat!)

Shoot a mother-humpin’ moose 8 days of the week!
(gunshots)
Now you’re dead! Now you’re dead cuz I’m an animal!
And I’m bigger than you!

Holding a shotgun, rocking the pumps.
Everybody party, we’re going on the hood.
La La, La La, La La, La La!

(gunshots)
Yo! I’m Palin! I’m out!

18 10 2008
vena45

HEY EVERYONE CHECK OUT THE BLOG ON MSNBC THAT THE SNL SKIT WITH PALIN IN IT SUCKED BIG TIME! EVERYONE WHO WATCHED IT SAID IT WASN’T FUNNY AT ALL, IT WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT!

I WON’T BE WATCHING IT, INSTEAD I’LL BE WATCHING MAD TV AND CATCH UP ON SNL AT A LATER TIME ON YOUTUBE.

18 10 2008
Sparky

@ LA (21:26:58) :

Both retrievers very Fat and very Happy ;-) (100 lbs….gasp…each)

Thanks for asking, LA! :-)

My philosophy…as dogs should be. We were fortunate to rescue both, and I sometimes think they know. Excellent cuddlers on Sunday morning. Yup, on the bed ;-)

18 10 2008
Bec Hussein in Illinois

Thanks for the lyrics ds55. I knew I’d have to read them to get the full meaning. The rest of you – when/if you bring yourselves to watch the videos, that final phrase of the rap — the very pregnant Amy Poehler really shouted it with what I detected as REAL anger – as she danced off stage. I think they got their personal licks in. In the first skit where Palin and Fey trade places at the podium – Fey whisks off in front of her – without a glance. She wasn’t a happy camper being there, either. But her own bit on Palin was once again – spot on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-on-snl-with-t_n_135887.html

18 10 2008
Carol(IL)

Repost from other thread:

I watched Palin on SNL tonight (but, I had a stiff drink in my hand) and didn’t quite get why she went on. Granted that I’m completely biased against her-but, she seemed to stand around willing to be mocked with no comebacks. Someone must have thought it would be good press for her-but, she was just a mannequin. There truly seems to be nothing in her head.

18 10 2008
ira2

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (21:18:51) :

Next time, get full fat and work out more. It’s worth it!

You don’t know how tempting it is to leap at this chance to advertise my free-membership open-air gym here. ‘Course I won’t, but just think how many full fat goodie calories you could work off by cutting the wood that’ll heat this house all winter… digging the drainage ditches that’ll keep the frost heaves from doing any more damage to the walls… nailing down the loose roofing to keep the outbuildings from turning into ice rinks – 1, 2, 3, 4, up the ladder, 1, 2, 3, 4, down the ladder, swing that hammer, hey hey! — ok, ok, I’ll shut up :o)

Btw, I put Breyer’s on my cereal with whole milk to jack up the calories and fat. Even if I didn’t need it physically, I’d do it for the comfort value! As you said, it’s worth it (whatever “it” may be for the individual.)

18 10 2008
LA

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (21:29:53) :

@LA, SNL hasn’t been really funny in a long time–except for the election bits this year. I am waiting to watch SP tomorrow because I don’t want any (more) nightmares
______________________________________________
I quit watching it years ago. I really miss Gilda and John and the original cast….teehee..that dates me. And yes I too have nighmares about SP. I’ m looking forward to getting a full nights RESTFULL sleep after the election and not having to eat TUMS….:)

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Betty White…

I know many of you may not even know who actress Betty White is but for those that do, it’s just fun to watch her call Palin: ‘One Crazy Bitch’.

http://www.jossip.com/betty-white-on-palin-one-crazy-bitch-20081010/

I just stopped in to catch up on what everyone was sayin bout SP on SNL. I didn’t watch it, I had a camp fire out back by the pond instead. OK Muddies, peace out till tomorrow from Chi.

18 10 2008
katiebegood

Hey everyone, watch this video and go to bed with a song in your heart. I have tears in my eyes.

18 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

ds55 (21:30:02) : the Sarah Palin Rap

It’s an interesting way to link her to Carl Rove(MC Rove [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hYZre8kEsuw]

18 10 2008
kidsquid

I love SNL for inviting SP on the show on the same week Josh Brolin and Oliver Stone are on the show pitching W.??? Not a smart move on the part of SP’s handlers.

18 10 2008
DrChill

I missed SNL. I saw the video, and lol’ed when they shot the moose.

I imagine a scene with SP and Fey as SP, and SP confronting herself, and accusing herself of ethical violations…

And having an argument about it. An inner conflict played out with 2 SPs.
One dead certain and the other with doubt and with ethics…

no thats just crazy …

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

ds55 (21:30:02) :

I got the “Eskimo Rap” lyrics! I got ‘em! I got ‘em!

———

Thanks for that ds55. Glad I missed it. Sounds pretty lame.

18 10 2008
kidsquid

Stone said this when Palin was in NY. Her hotel was across the street from the Zeigfield where W. premiered the same night SP was in NY.

Stone said he extended invites to the Republican presidential and vice presidential nominees yesterday morning – but they opted for a fund-raiser instead.
PHOTOS: STARS ALIGN ON RED CARPET AT ‘W.’ PREMIERE
That was just fine with the Bush-bashing director, who seems to despise Palin even more.
“I don’t think Sarah would understand the picture,” Stone said on the red carpet outside the famed W. 54th St. theater.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@ira2, that sounds like a lot of work! Ironically, full-fat milk is the one thing I can’t stand. Before I realized I was allergic to milk, I drank skim. Now, I drink soy if I drink at all.

@LA, I haven’t had dreams about her yet, but you never know. If I do, I’m blaming her being on SNL.

@Chief Hussein Shikago, I love Betty White. She is a stitch, and she can say things that a younger woman couldn’t.

18 10 2008
LA

Sparky,
Its got to be one of the nicest things in the world to have a sweet doggie face to smooch in the morning….:)

18 10 2008
ira2

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (21:54:09) :

@ira2, that sounds like a lot of work! Ironically, full-fat milk is the one thing I can’t stand. Before I realized I was allergic to milk, I drank skim. Now, I drink soy if I drink at all.

It is. A lot of work. *Sigh*. It sucks being too sick to do the work and too poor to hire someone to do the work (not that there’s anyone available for hire out here anyway). I keep thinking that I just haven’t found the right approach to reel in gym lovers, LOL!
Hey, how did you find out that you’re allergic to milk? If it’s ok to go that far off topic, I’d love to know. Heard so much about so many people being lactose-intolerant and still don’t know how you can pinpoint the culprit.

18 10 2008
Sparky

Grrrrrr…go gettum Joe. Love ya, man!

“Joe Biden hits back on robo calls in Henderson, Nevada”

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Bec Hussein in Illinois (20:55:00) :
we are NOT racist over here.
=====================================
Wish that were the case in Alabama. Stopped to get gas a few
days ago. I have Obama/Biden signs on both rear windows of
my old Caddy. Some racist/redneck said aloud, “Votin’ for the
n****r are you?” I should have retorted with a statement, but I
didn’t feel it was worth my effort. I am not surprised that this state
is always RED!.

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (21:54:09) :

Golden Girls was so liberal I doubt SP was allowed to watch it…

18 10 2008
guitarlinda

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/18/224747/35
good news…Colin Powell endorses Obama…………great statement re; why
cheers!!!

18 10 2008
Lil' Geese Whalebone Palin

LA, Sparky, I just woke up my golden and gave her a big wet one….. Boy… did she look surprized!!!!

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@ira2, you should market it as a resort of some sort. People would be willing to pay then to get a ‘real’ Canadian experience. As to the allergies, first, most non-Caucasians are allergic to dairy. Second, I get bronchitis all the time, and I went to a naturalist who recommended I stop eating/drinking sugar, dairy, and wheat. I did, and the symptoms cleared up. After, I did some experimenting by taking out one product at a time, and I realized that I am intolerant to wheat and dairy. I drink soy milk and eat spelt bread, but sometimes I lapse (like ice cream).

@Sparky, thanks for the clip. I love Joe the Senator. He’s the one to get passionate and loud–the perfect counterpunch to Barack the Senator’s coolness.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Chief Hussein Shikago, good to see your back. Your snarky sense of humor is much appreciated.

“John chose me as his speech writer because he wanted to appeal to the younger voters.” Heh.

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Deuce2 AL

I give you alot of credit, those folks are going to be left in our dust. Hold your head high and say “Yes I AM!”

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

LA, Sparky, Lil’ Geese – just took my golden mix for a walk…he’s done now. =o) curled right up happy as a furball can be.

18 10 2008
copybook realist

@guitarlinda

I guess that that report about Powell is a fake…we will have to wait and see what happens in the morning

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@guitarlinda, apparently, that diary is fake. No one knows for sure what Powell will do. We will have to find out tomorrow.

18 10 2008
SMR

Continuing the off-topic subject of dairy stuff — I read somewhere that consuming too much soy milk interferes with your body’s ability to absorb vitamins & minerals, so have switched my daughter (who dairy does NOT agree with) to rice milk. My husband is also, along with 2 of his sisters, lactose intolerant, and loves the rice milk now. My extraordinarily picky toddler never even noticed the change… You might want to read up on it to find out more about the pros v cons, as we can all do with as many vits & mins as we can get!

18 10 2008
LA

Boy o Boy…wonder how McWeasel is going to spin the news about Colin Powell…evil laugh here….:)

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

Thanks, asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN, had a busy day. I so miss being here at my 2nd home. It takes me so long to read everyones posts, which I do a few times a day. I am so torn, chores-Mudflats-more chores-Mudflats-fall fest-Mudflats-campfire-Mudflats-I have to turn in-just one more post…

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

from AP:

It was not immediately clear if McCain, overnighting in Ohio, watched the show, but earlier in the day he told a crowd in Woodbridge, Va., that he thought Fey and Palin were “separated at birth.”

What an insult to Tina Fey!

18 10 2008
SMR

And since Bible Spice is committed to ridding Alaska of all wildlife, can she please come out here and do something about the bear who roams our neighborhood nightly???!!!

18 10 2008
LA

RATS…I posted before I got to read about the diary being fake.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Deuce2 AL, what an idiot. I commend you for showing your support in a such a red way. Any chance it could get, um, even slightly maroon?

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Deuce2 AL (22:03:35) :

Some racist/redneck said aloud, “Votin’ for the
n****r are you?” I should have retorted with a statement, but I
didn’t feel it was worth my effort.

****************

I retorted for you: “Great guess, Einstein!”

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

MJC (21:00:27)
==================================
Thanks so much for the link. It’s great to know that every
politician is not a politician. It will be so nice to have a real
man as president.

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

O Great Spirit whose voice I hear in the winds, give Barack good rest tonight that he may feel refreshed and ready for another awesome day.

good night muddies…

18 10 2008
LA

SMR,
Do you have a Grizzley bear? Hope I spelled that correctly…too lazy to look it up.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Chief Hussein Shikago, that’s a no-brainer! Mudflats first! P.S. I always want to call you Gary, I don’t know why.

@SMR, you are right. Humans are not really meant to drink cow milk. I don’t like rice milk, unfortunately, but I think I will try again thanks to your comment.

@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein: Best. Retort. of. the. Night.

18 10 2008
ira2

Deuce2 AL (22:03:35) :

Wish that were the case in Alabama. Stopped to get gas a few
days ago. I have Obama/Biden signs on both rear windows of
my old Caddy. Some racist/redneck said aloud, “Votin’ for the
n****r are you?” I should have retorted with a statement, but I
didn’t feel it was worth my effort. I am not surprised that this state
is always RED!.

Oh. My. God. I can’t imagine… this – I hate to sound like an idiot, but I had no idea that people would actually SAY something like this OUT LOUD in 2008. How could you possibly respond to that? It’d be like talking at a cockroach, even if you could find the words.

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN Gary works, you may have missed the post on Indigenous Peoples Day when I replaced Gary with Chief in honor of my native american family and friends.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Ok…just caught the opening of SNL (call me old fashioned or an audio/video snob, I’m a left coaster who would still rather wait out the time delay than watch the Youtube version). I thought it was hilarious. Didn’t help Palin any…but man, she didn’t look like she was having much fun at all. If this was the campaign’s attempt to show that she has a sense of humor and bring some levity to the whole situation…well, best proof I’ve seen yet that the McCain campaign is continuing with the same failed policies of old, caused it didn’t happen.

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

@ira2
I believe Deuce2 AL would agree, this is very, very commen in the southern states. Racism is still being passed on to hundreds of thousands children today. Sad but true. I have had some very bad experiences with the deep south.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Chief Hussein Shikago, so you ARE Gary? I’m not just imagining it? Whew. In which post did you replace it? I want to see if I read it or not.

18 10 2008
dowl

South Side Chicago

Where have we come as a people? That Gov. Palin would sit and participate on SNL’s Weekend Update stage and have her state’s constituancies derided is unbelievable. I ‘get’ the parody. It was funny because of Amy Poular though it was uncomfortable to watch. I do not particularly feel sorry for Sarah because I feel that as a people, we are headed in the wrong direction with this clueless, unqualified, and ridiculous woman.

Mudfats, y’all can have her back–thank you for your efforts on behalf of the lower 48! OBAMA/BIDEN ’08

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@ira2, it’s one reason I am wary of traveling in the south. Once whilst living in the Bay Area, I was at a bar with two friends. Three guys from Louisiana came up to us to ask directions. One kept staring at me as they asked where they should go to see the real San Francisco or something like that. We told them Haight Street would work. The one guy staring at me said, “Are there any like you there? We don’t have any like you at home.”

18 10 2008
LA

@ira2
I live in California and some people here use th “N” word. I don’t allow it in my world but racism is all over…not just the South.

18 10 2008
SMR

We do have a few grizzly bear around here, but this one is a black bear… One was wandering through the yard this summer, so had my husband put up a nice tall fence asap (not that that will discourage them much, but might encourage them to try someone else’s yard). One also helped itself to our garbage in the garage (we are conscientious neighbors, keeping ours inside to discourage bears) when my husband accidentally left the garage door open. There is a house being constructed across the street, with a huge dumpster for construction material, some idiot put their kitchen trash in it (too cheap to go to the dump or get trash pick-up?), and so now it is this bear’s regular place to stop for a meal. Makes me angry considering the fact that we have two girls, one who likes to go for long walks, and I was just pulling Lottie around on her sled after our snow the other day, through the woods where our bear buddy is hanging out now.

I really really don’t want to have to call fish & game to have them take this bear away — they sometimes just kill the bear rather than try to relocate it.

My daughter about had a heart attack yesterday when she went to the bottom of our front steps and there was the bear in our driveway… We are all housebound during the evening now & for the forseeable future, and since days are still getting shorter that means pretty early. Halloween coming up with the kids trick or treating, anyway, it’s definately not a good scene.

Alaska has had a really bizarre bear year this year. Two people seriously wounded on park trails, bears breaking into houses to get food, wandering around the busiest highway that cuts thru Anchorage north/south. The housing boom meant lots of houses being built in bear territory and so it’s been crazy. We are in a very new portion of a subdivision that’s been around about 7 years, were the only house out here until a couple of months ago. Last winter wolves were attacking dogs in the neighborhood — that was some scary dog-walking times, let me tell ya!

It’s all fun & games here in Alaska!

18 10 2008
Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (22:44:50) :

Chief Hussein Shikago, so you ARE Gary?
———

Yes, not your imagination. I was checking back in the blogs but I couldn’t locate 10/13/08 thats the day I posted it… sorry about the confusion, my bad.

Can’t keep my eyes open…till then

18 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

I think you need to worry less about the ‘positive’ effects Palin on SNL could have, because it’s zero.
I was shocked because they were making fun of her in FRONT of her, and she’s too dumb to be embarrassed.
Read the words, it’s all about her insensitivity, her disregard for animals and her conceit, and the final line, (which Amy YELLED while scrunched as close to Palin’s head as possible) is
“Yo! I’m Palin! I’m out!”
Which I took as “I’m out of the running”.

She looked foolish, and the dancing in the chair reminded me of when my mother used to try and do “our” dance-steps in front of my friends. (Oh, puleeze, motherrr!)
It just proved how way out of touch she is with reality.
No votes were lost.

BTW, I recently spent a few nights stepping into the throat of the beast,..going to Palin websites and blogs, just to see what’s up. First, they have some of the most ridiculous crap they’re spewing, stories you wouldn’t believe (like someone should screen-shot all of them so Obama can sue them later), but secondly, they have very few comments, and I would assume, either few interested in reading the crap, or maybe nobody likes to comment?
Nothing like here, with our 350 comments per blogpost.

I was thinking to myself, “Well, where are they all? Why don’t they post?” and then I saw the pic from St Louis! It was all quite clear.

Pictures like the St. Louis crowds and the KC crowds today, give me goose-bumps. I can’t imagine what goes through Obama’s head when he sees a crowd like that. I would be terrified. He’s cool and presidential.
And it makes me happy to know that we Mudflatters have probably helped get people out to those massive rallies, with calling and emailing, (and getting unethical people exposed!)
Now, to keep the pressure on, and get everyone to vote!

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Chief Hussein Shikago, I thought that was the day you meant, but I wasn’t sure. I usually call it Native American Genocide Day, but yours is more positive. Night!

18 10 2008
Northern Quilter

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

on the off topic dairy/wheat thing. We also do not eat any wheat or dairy at our house for health reasons. However, for the times we find that we just really want dairy we either try to keep it raw or take a charcoal tablet along with the dairy – it helps by absorbing some part of the protein that can cause problems (so says my naturalpath and it seems to work). I also agree with SMR on the soy but if it’s only a little now and then I wouldn’t think it would be so bad. BTW We love spelt at our house!

18 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (22:21:50) :

McCain said ‘he thought Fey and Palin were “separated at birth.”’ Well he’s right. They were separated by 2,000 miles, six years and of course having different mothers. On the other hand John and Golum have never really been separated – there is no truth to the rumor that he is the lizard king.

18 10 2008
Sparky

intelligentbydesign (22:14:51) :

LA, Sparky, Lil’ Geese – just took my golden mix for a walk…he’s done now. =o) curled right up happy as a furball can be.

I get you, Intelligent, all furry things are snoozing quietly here too…they feel they protect us all day (are proud of it) and little to they know about the real evil in the world.

But I have to smile at them, as they certainly fill my heart (sorry for corney)

18 10 2008
Sparky

oh good grief, to = do :-)

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Northern Quilter, I didn’t read the part about the soy. Damn. I guess I will really have to try rice milk. I haven’t drank soy for a while because I actually don’t like it that much (I know, and me one-hundred percent Asian, too). As for spelt, I love it. I bet most people would never be able to tell it’s not wheat.

What is a charcoal tablet, if I may ask? I haven’t heard of that.

18 10 2008
Sparky

@knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin (22:55:39) :

Hey Knikgoose…nice post.

18 10 2008
SMR

Racism — alive & well here in Alaska. Shortly before we left Alaska about 5 years ago (we moved back last winter) the public radio station had an interview with a well-known neo-con here in Alaska for some reason or other (a reunion with buddies in the Valley?). He was talking about AK being the perfect place for the new Aryan nation that he & others like him were attempting to establish. Saying things about how the Valley was ideal because it didn’t have any n****rs, jews, asians, etc. He said “you’re already there!” A woman phoned in crying, said she was jewish and how could someone in this day & age say such horrible things. He was totally unrepentant. The public radio station was in no way condoning what this guy was saying (it was a local program, rather than one of the national ones like Fresh Air, Talk of the Nation, etc), not really sure why they were giving this guy air time — it was some horrible hateful stuff that he was spewing. Literally made you want to pull over to be sick.

How these little pockets of hate continue to flourish in this day & age is beyond me — but they do, and all that we can do is fight the good fight in our own way, one person at a time. I remember when my daughter was about 6, I had a work friend, he was black, over to my house to help me out with some mechanical stuff, and my daughter asked me later when my friend, the guy with the brown face, was going to come back. She had no idea that there was a racial differentiation — I did not raise her that way, and she is, in my opinion, as non-racist as I think it is possible for a person to be. Anyway, I guess the point is that we can do our little bit to teach love & speak love & do everything that we can to spread that wherever we go. If you are fortunate enough to have children then they will do the same, and so on. I like to think that children of racists can change & grow & learn, shedding those beliefs, and that those who are raised to believe in equality will always be that way. At least it makes me feel better about this world to think that way, especially during these trying times here in the US.

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Behind McCain, Outsider in Capital Wanting Back In

“Cindy McCain was new to Washington and not yet 30 when she arrived at a luncheon for Congressional spouses to discover a problem with her name tag.

It read “Carol McCain.” That was the well-liked wife John McCain had left to marry Cindy, to the disapproval of many in Washington.

Fearing that the slight was intentional, she slinked to a half-empty table that never filled. “No one wanted to sit at her table,“ said Barbara Ross, a friend who was not surprised when Mrs. McCain announced a few months later that she was moving back to Arizona. “It was like high school.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/18/us/politics/18cindy.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&em

18 10 2008
LA

SMR,
I read about your bear problem here in Sacramento in our paper. We have black bears here in the mountains that can cause a problem too. Most people have had to put in bear boxes ( a very expensive garbage can) to keep them out of the garbage in the Tahoe area. All the campgrounds have food lockers and if you don’t comply, the rangers will fine you.
Many years ago I lived in Fairbanks on the outskirts and we had a Grizzly resident. It used to come and lick the BBQ grate. I never saw it but one day coming home from work and walking up the path to the house I smelled a very smelly smell all of the sudden. I do believe it was the bear but didn’t wait around to find out…talk about a fast run to the house…:)

18 10 2008
ocliberal

Wow. I could not believe the SNL Palin appearance. That in no way helped her at all. She was the butt of the joke and instead of looking like a ‘good sport’ she just looked like a complete moron for allowing herself to mocked like that. I almost have to believe she didn’t even know she was being mocked.

Maybe she is just really that stupid. If I were her I would have refused to participate in either one of those skits. But then I’m not her so perhaps this was really pure Palin. And that we all know is a person who will do and say anything that is put in front of her without either having a clue what she is saying or else not caring, just as long as she is getting the attention.

I almost for one tiny minute felt a little bit sorry for her tonight. I think Sarah Palin is a woman who has been used and manipulated by many people, mostly men, in her life. I think her trade-off for allowing herself to be used is she gets to dress up in nice clothes and pretend she isn’t just a fish-picker from Alaska. But I think the sad thing is, she just doesn’t get what she doesn’t get and tonight it was painfully obvious that everyone else on the show did get it.

What she didn’t look like was someone with the class or dignity to be the vice presidential candidate of the United State of America. She just looked like a pathetic fool.

She should have passed on SNL and stayed home with her 6 month old baby. That would have been a much wiser choice for her.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

SMR, I think the way your daughter asked the question showed that you did, indeed, raise her right. She was simply using a salient feature to identify the man, as it should be. I also think that noting someone’s race is not racist. For example, if someone wants to identify me by face and has only heard my voice (I have a MN accent, if anything), I would say I was Asian as it is the most noticeable thing about me.

Hatred also flourishes out of fear. Most people fear the other, and a dedicated minority fan the flames of their own fear rather than try to tamp them down, thus leading to anger and hatred. Sad, but true. I don’t think we will ever reach a time when no one is discriminated against.

18 10 2008
Northern Quilter

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN

Charcoal is highly absorbant and they make a tablet form that you can take as a supplement and it’s supposed to “bind with unwanted materials or gas” (reading off the label here) and carry it out of the digestive system. We get it in the supplement isle of the natural food section.

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago (22:13:26) :
—————————————-
Thank You and I do.

18 10 2008
ira2

On the note of racism… it’s something I absolutely canNOT stand, though I didn’t know just to what extent I can’t stand it until about 2 1/2 years ago.

When I bought this house, it came with a windfall bounty of about 1,000 books (I almost wet myself with giddy joy) and it took forever and a day to sort through them. One of them, pretty with a red cloth cover and leopard design on the front, stood decoratively in front of a row of other books in the shelf for a few weeks before I got around to checking it out along with the rest of that row. I read a few pages in the beginning, the middle and the end, said “wtF IS this??!”, went online for a bit of research, and promptly tossed the thing in the wood furnace. Lit a fire, too, summer or not, so it’d be gone up in smoke and out of this house and this world for good.

Me burning a book is equivalent to Brigitte Bardot skinning a baby bunny alive, but this was no bunny. The title of the book was “The Leopard’s Spots”. I burned it without any regrets whatsoever after almost getting physically ill over having had that thing in my house for weeks.

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Off topic, I know, but great Mitch Hedberg-ism from the “write in candidate” on SNL….
“Drill, baby drill? Not on my teeth. I hate baby dentists.”

Right up there with “dogs are forever in the push-up position.”

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (22:22:10)
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Maybe I’m not very smart, but I don’t understand your post.
Are you saying I acted red?
———————————-
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (22:25:38)
————————————–
Thanks for the retort. I should have done that perhaps,
but I abhore violence and at 56 and disabled, I don’t fight
as well as 20 to 30 year olds.

18 10 2008
Sparky

SMR (23:09:06) :

I can hear your heart breaking a little. And you are right in feeling aghast at these pockets of hate, hypocracy, and racism. With all of the history and education available, we still see and experience this. It’s sad.

I hope there is less now than in the past (I choose Hope ;-) ) I also think that there has always been and will always be some hate for irrational reasons.

My biggest disgust with McCain and Palin is that they are actually encouraging such feelings, and because many feel M&L are “leaders,” fringe Repubs think that their own hidden or suppressed evil feelings can be acted out because McCain and Palin are basical giving them an “okay.” Generally these inappropriate displays of hate would be kept hidden/suppressed because modern society says NO!

Did that makes sense? Clumsy, I think. It’s getting late. You’re doing a beautiful job with your child. Good for you…good for others.

18 10 2008
LA

ira2,
Why did the person that you bought the house from have that book? You are lucky that you you only had the first one…aren’t there 3 in the series?

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

Thanks, Northern Quilter. I will have to keep an eye out as I do love ice cream.

@ira2, ok. Now I have to look up the book. I feel the same as you do about books. I have only tossed out two that I felt should not be read by anyone. Aaack, you must be talking about the first book in a trilogy about the Klan.

Aaaack! More nightmares!

18 10 2008
intelligentbydesign

Wow…SP back as a newscaster…anyone got clips to her sportscasting days? If she looked that uncomfortable, I’m amazed she wasn’t fired. Wonder if the “I’m not going to do the skit” was in the original plan, or if they just said “look, we’re doing it, if you don’t want a part, you can say so, and sit there and enjoy yourself”.

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago
==================
I do agree. I was born in WV and I never thought that I
would ever find another place that was more racist.
I am afraid that perhaps I did.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Deuce2 AL, oh no, not at all! I admire you for putting your convictions on your car regardless of the yahoos surrounding you. I am just hoping that the state might turn a wee bit less red (maroon instead of deep red) by the election. Sorry for being unclear!

18 10 2008
Sparky

LA (23:10:53) :

snort…smelly smell…snort

Good one, LA :-)

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Deuce2 AL, I see why you were confused. I meant to say, “in such a red state”, not “in such a red way”. Sorry! Sometimes my thoughts are too fast for my fingers.

18 10 2008
ira2

LA (23:27:36) :

ira2,
Why did the person that you bought the house from have that book? You are lucky that you you only had the first one…aren’t there 3 in the series?

He was an old man, and like 95% of the old men of lesser fortune in this area, he was “an antique dealer” – meaning, he bought junk (and I mean JUNK) by the truck load and at yard sales and estate auctions. The books were the halo of light on the immense pile of junk and range from the late 1800s to almost current and cover about every genre and topic imaginable. I’m sure the man had no clue that this – I don’t even want to call it “book” – thing was in the load when he hauled it home, and even if he’d noticed it, chances are he wouldn’t have had a clue what it’s about.

And no, the other two in the series are NOT in the batch. I checked, believe you me.

18 10 2008
InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein

@Lacy Lady (19:57:05) :

There was a Rain Gear Rally for Obama in Juneau today, but our digital camera isn’t working, so we didn’t get any photos. Hopefully one of the other Juneau mudpuppies did and will post them somewhere (maybe check on the Forum site).

@asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (22:12:16) :

…but sometimes I lapse (like ice cream).

My lactose and soy intolerant sister recently introduced us to a frozen dessert thing called Coconut Bliss (or something like that), made with coconut milk/cream and organic sweetner (so it’s HEALTHY… or not…). She got it at the local health food store. It was amazing! That might help you eat “ice cream” without problem.

BTW, we DID NOT watch SNL tonight at our house. Prob. won’t catch it on the internet either. From everyone’s descriptions, it sounds about like I’d expect out of her.

Off to bed, so goodnight, all you other mudpuppies. Catch you tomorrow.

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama’s Path

“In the capsule version of the Barack Obama story, his mother is simply the white woman from Kansas. The phrase comes coupled alliteratively to its counterpart, the black father from Kenya. On the campaign trail, he has called her his “single mom.” But neither description begins to capture the unconventional life of Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, the parent who most shaped Mr. Obama.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/us/politics/14obama.html?pagewanted=1

18 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

The ADN hops in for its chop ….

A costly personal, vindictive Palin vendetta? You betcha

For the better part of thirteen months Gov. Palin, her husband and a handful of her senior staff tried to get Wooten fired through legally impermissible means. Why didn’t the governor or her staff spend that time crafting a beneficial public policy that would have protected the public against this trooper as well as future rogue troopers?

If the governor, her husband and her senior staff were truly concerned about their safety or the publics safety, why didn’t they propose legislation to change the way the state troopers investigate themselves?

In hindsight, it’s hard to understand that after a year of relentlessly pursuing Wooten, while claiming his punishment was a “slap on the wrist” they never once considered speaking about this situation in public. This past session there were over two dozen pieces of public safety legislation where the governor could have had a public platform to inform the public of her concerns, work with lawmakers to propose solutions and change state laws not just for Wooten but for future cases of accused trooper misconduct.

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/560649.html

18 10 2008
ira2

Thanks for all the info and input about lactose intolerance! :o)

18 10 2008
Sparky

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (23:40:20) :

The ADN hops in for its chop ….
A costly personal, vindictive Palin vendetta? You betcha

Wow, good for Halcro! AKM, you must be pleased to see this comment, especially in ADN.

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (23:31:12)
=====================================
Thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I wrote a letter to the
editor of the local county newspaper. It had to deal with time I
spent at the Trident submarine base in Georgia. Wanted to make
sure that residents here know that I don’t trust Mc&P with 50%
of our nuclear arsenal. I also am finding many, many Obama/Biden
signs all over this small city.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@Deuce2 AL, I am glad you read my explanation. You didn’t need me to make you feel bad on top of that yahoo. It’s easy for me to be blue in MN; it takes much more guts to be blue in a red state.

Also, thank you for your service to our country. I DO support our military men and women, even if I do not support the war.

P.S. Now I can go to bed! Night, all.

18 10 2008
SMR

@LA — This summer I was bbq’ing on the deck, working in the yard w/hubby & toddler, and my husband came over to tell me very quietly that a bear was on its way over (he was on the opposite side from daughter & me). Since then the bbq has been in the garage with the garbage! We moved back here from Scotland — long nice walks in the forest above our house, deer wandering through the gardens, no wolves, no bear, no moose (cute, but MEAN MEAN MEAN). When we moved here & heard about the wolves stalking dogs I was really missing my peaceful Scottish life! I very rarely take walks here without worrying about bears, and then just when I start to get complacent… It’s a trade-off, I guess, the animals were here first, after all. I will be giving it back to them anyway, since we are moving again next spring. I will always be someone who prefers the scenery without the mean animals! If that makes me a defective Alaskan, well okay! I know just what you mean about running fast — it’s amazing how fast you can run when there’s a bear around. I don’t want to find out how fast I can run while carrying a 3-yr old, though. As I said, just hoping this bear goes away before F&G need to be called. He cannot make himself a new home on my street!

@Asiangrrrl — I guess my daughter is a pretty striking contrast to those who are spoon-fed racism from the cradle. Ironically, her father, my 1st husband, is a pig-republican (as opposed to the rational type of republican that I used to be and that my now husband greatest husband in the world forever & ever is) and bragged to her about wearing a “ho’s before bro’s” shirt! He is 46 years old, college educated & a complete idiot! Thank God my daughter is not like him at all. His mother is very gentle & not racist at all. His father took the bus to work everyday so that he could talk to people from all walks of life (he was a very well-respected businessman, editor of the large conservative newspaper) — when he died the black man who had been the bus driver for years on the route wept & wept at his funeral. So, how in the world did the ex turn out to be such a pig? Life is a mystery.

@Ira — had to look that book up after reading your post! Let’s not discuss it here! Wouldn’t want to give trolls any ideas about good reading material! Have you ever looked it up on the internet? Kinda reminds me of Bible Spice — romanticizing racism! Yikes. Of course you will probably find all sorts of stuff vilifying the author, and that might make you feel a bit better. Crazy.

18 10 2008
asianHusseingrrl"that one"MN

@SMR, I am totally not an outdoor kinda gal. I mean, I like looking at nature, and I love the ocean (especially the Pacific), but I am not comfortable in it. Your ex must be a genetic malfunction. Wow. Your daughter sounds like a doll, though.

Really going to bed now. Gotta be up in time to watch my Vikes (hopefully) beat the Bears!

18 10 2008
Deuce2 AL

Thanks for the fun tonight muddies. Time for this pro-American
to go to bed. Wanted to leave you with a little humor. Will
be back after Meet the Press hopefully with good news.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/the-mccain-wander_n_133775.html

19 10 2008
Aussie Puck Mule Hussein

Joe Biden didn’t bust a move with Ellen DeGeneres at a Thursday taping of her show, but he did take to the couch hitting Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for not signing on to more debates and saying he’d vote against the California ballot measure that would ban same-sex marriage.

As Biden entered to David Bowie’s “Changes”, DeGeneres quipped, welcoming the Democratic vice presidential candidate the same way his Republican counterpart did at the onset of their October 2 debate: “Can I call you Joe?”

“Yeah, as long as you wink at me,” Biden replied.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-appears-o.html

19 10 2008
ira2

@SMR (23:53:47)

Yup, I looked it up after reading a few pages here and there. That’s when it went in the furnace.

19 10 2008
SMR

@Sparky — yes, some days my heart breaks over it. Before my husband left he & I stayed up late into the night one night because I was full of angst over the hate everywhere. I was upset about it from the day of Bible Spice’s RNC speech — that was a thinly-veiled contempt for all things not republican & fundamentalist — and she has increased the vitriol daily since then. HEre in Alaska there is the added bonus of hate directed at anyone who dares to oppose the “Alaskan.” She is no Alaskan to me. She is the tool of whomever, whenever. The more that I learn about her the more I wonder if she has ever been her own person, or if she has always been the puppet of her husband or her political cronies. I hope that I never know, that she slowly fades out the Alaskan conscience, moves to the south where she & her husband host a religious show. They can start their own political party.

I am soooooo glad that I am moving away from Alaska soon and I never ever ever want to live here again. While this election has shown me some of the best Alaskans, it has also shown me how horribly outnumbered we are. The in-your-face racism & fundamental religious insanity here are not conducive to the life that I want to be living. This is a bitterly divided state right now, and unfortunately not divided, mathematically, as I’d like to see it! We are oil employees, so we will never be able to transfer to a place that is not red unless it’s out of the country (as with this move, thank God). But we’ve had our eye on a retirement place in a nice blue-ish state…

Good night all. You are a balm for my troubled spirit! Thank you. Visualizing Obama as President and all of you happy & healthy & celebrating with me in spirit on Nov 5th!!!!

19 10 2008
Sparky

Love to you, SMR. Good night.

19 10 2008
LA

SMR,
Good night…do have lovely dreams tonight….:)

19 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in France

prettybrown (19:50:59) :

Obama and hillary will be here in Florida Monday. I am soooo excite I am going to see them. I am in a battle ground state and I am trying to volunteer as much as I can to help our state be blue.

———————-
This Florida girl sue wishes she could be there! Think of me! I am also thrilled to see that the Dems will have 5000 lawyers there on Nov. 4. By the way, did you guys see the story (maybe on HuffPo?) about the voters in WVa who, when voting for Obama on the touch screen, saw the vote go to McCain? What is happening with that?

My opinion of Colin Powell is that he has always been a decent honest fellow and was tricked into the whole WMD, which, once he left office repudiated and apologized for (didn’t he?). I think he must know that he is still working on repairing his reputation with America and therefore I don’t think that he will blindly side with a Repub. And he must have seen enough Repub/neo-cons spurning Mc/Palin and endorsing Obama – it is no longer a no-no, so there you go. More people like him and more military should stand up for Obama.

19 10 2008
LA

And I too must wander off to bed. Thank you all for a very lovely Sat night. You all are just the best…HUGS all around!!!!!
Sparky….smooch the doggies for me….:)

19 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

@LA
“I smelled a very smelly smell “…..LMAO!
That sentence made my day,..

19 10 2008
ira2

Heh. Bears. Here too. My neighbor had one on her front porch rattling the screen door, and I had one prowl around the house. There was also a bear wallow under the wild plum trees along my ditch last year… I refuse to share my food with wildlife when there’s a million acres of juicy nature outside my property, so Ira the pit bull got to sniff the wallow and heard the sermon about what he’s to do if we meet a bear while picking plums.
Call me a chicken, but I haven’t walked to the mailbox after dark since then either.

On a non-warm’n’fuzzy note, rendered bear fat (lard) is great for cooking, frying and baking. All-natural, organic, clean fat, beats anything from the store by miles. Since bears get hunted anyway, I like the idea of using all parts that can be used. (Hope this doesn’t offend.)

19 10 2008
eajphd Molten Contra Palin

Jamie, Floridian in France (00:15:43) :
Hi Jamie how’s it going on the shlep?

19 10 2008
knikgoose HUSSEIN!! justaskin

ocliberal:
I really don’t think SP is being manipulated. She is the manipulator! It’s her nature, she’s the “Mean Girl”. And she knows what she’s doing.
She swallowed that SNL show because she knows she’s FINISHED in politics. She can’t go back to Alaska,..there’s music to be faced. She will never be in politics again, unless it’s running for president of the Racist Rotten Women of the World club.
I really believe she chose to go on SNL. (maybe even suggested it herself) because she now believes the screen is her true calling.
Remember, she originally had aimed to be a sportscaster on CNN. Well, now, she thinks she can take over Hollywood!
Whatever it takes, she’s been trying to be famous from back in the Beauty Pageant days, and she’s never grown out of it, nor has she ever applied herself to the directions afforded her, -just stood on, or destroyed whomever might be in her way.
No, I think tonight’s effort was Sarah doing whatever Sarah needs to do to get Sarah ahead, however wrong and misguided.

19 10 2008
ira2

SMR (00:11:43) :

[...] I was upset about it from the day of Bible Spice’s RNC speech — that was a thinly-veiled contempt for all things not republican & fundamentalist — [...]

Yanno, that struck me too. And not only her contempt for all things not republican and fundamentalist, but that arrogance – she came across as someone who thinks that being a “rugged” moose-hunting outdoorsy person from Alaska is wayyy better than any of us meek, civilized sheep down here.
It grated on me, big time. I love the outdoors, I love living in the boonies, I hunt (only for food though, so it doesn’t count as hunting in a “rugged” sport hunter’s mind), I love my guns (only for hunting though, so it doesn’t count in the mind of people who “love guns”) and I love this country – who the hell is she to blather on and on about how special and unusual she is?? There’s millions of people in this country who like these things and who, in addition, have what she’ll never even be able to comprehend, leave alone develop – honesty and integrity and intelligence.

Great. Now I’m all angry again. *Sigh*. Back to focusing on good things.

19 10 2008
Sparky

10-4 LA, consider them smooched!

Good night to you too fellow Mudpuppy (Yes we can!)

19 10 2008
Sparky

@ira2 (00:45:51) :

Hang in there Ira, you’re okay. That’s exactly why we are all here, and why we return.

19 10 2008
angryxer

intelligentbydesign (23:29:22) :

Wow…SP back as a newscaster…anyone got clips to her sportscasting days? If she looked that uncomfortable, I’m amazed she wasn’t fired. Wonder if the “I’m not going to do the skit” was in the original plan, or if they just said “look, we’re doing it, if you don’t want a part, you can say so, and sit there and enjoy yourself”.
________________________

intelligent by design: of course it was part of the plan. amy had the rap down cold; palin was never going to do it. and i actually agreed with someone else upthread that she did look comfortable at the desk, like she could totally pull off a newscast. (i did watch one of her early news clips & she was dreadful. but maybe it was the big hair that really put me off more than anything.) palin hardly had any lines in either skit, so her impact was next to nil.

from the nyt: “Rumors of a Palin appearance on SNL had circulated for weeks, but it was not until Friday that the campaign confirmed them. That afternoon, Ms. Palin said she had yet to see a script. By Saturday afternoon, campaign aides had seen several tentative versions.”

so who knows what other versions were floating around. no doubt the campaign picked what they thought were the safest ones, though i wouldn’t say tonight’s choices did her any favours.

i’m surprised by some of the comments above; as i said towards the end of a thread yesterday, which probably got lost, if SNL had denied her request, the rightwingnuts would’ve most likely gone ballistic on the liberal elite discriminatory lefties. this way they get to keep more balanced comedic cred by agreeing to the request. i mean, there aren’t any cases i know of in SNL’s history of someone wanting to come on the show who got turned down. even if you don’t like palin (and i’m no fan) she IS the GOP vice presidential candidate; in what universe would they tell her no?

i was tense about what they’d do, but the rap was hilarious, and we got some tina fey again with minimal palin. i have to wonder if fey didn’t ixnay the whole palin-double routine; she’s expressed her anti-palin views pretty strongly in the last couple weeks.

19 10 2008
akmuckraker

New thread!
Brenda returns.
Night!

19 10 2008
LaNon

Sarah cannot string together a coherent sentence. That’s sort of a basic requirement for a broadcaster. No way will Fox take a chance on her.

She loves the limelight, and she will get it, but it will be only to illuminate her evil deeds
against the good people of Alaska. Her career is over except maybe as a Tammy Faye-type buffoon.

19 10 2008
Anthony Look

Colin Powell endorses McCain, as Lying Palin announces she will leave the campaign for the good of the party. All hell breaks loose as McCain announces that Hilary Clinton agrees to become the vice presidential replacement. Bill moves out on Hillary and Lieberman becomes the head of the new campaign staff after McCain apologizes for all the vile spewed the last few weeks and fires them all.
WHEW, what a nightmare I just had; there’s a winning scenario for you, at least that’s how far fetch he’d have to go in order to win now. I have to stop eating rabbit.

19 10 2008
ira2

Anthony Look (01:58:04) :

Colin Powell endorses McCain, as Lying Palin announces she will leave the campaign for the good of the party. All hell breaks loose as McCain announces that Hilary Clinton agrees to become the vice presidential replacement. Bill moves out on Hillary and Lieberman becomes the head of the new campaign staff after McCain apologizes for all the vile spewed the last few weeks and fires them all.
WHEW, what a nightmare I just had; there’s a winning scenario for you, at least that’s how far fetch he’d have to go in order to win now. I have to stop eating rabbit.

You forgot to mention that Palin will only leave the campaign for the good of the party in trade for Washington D.C. being renamed “Palingrad”.

19 10 2008
Ripley AKA Copper Hussein Catfish P.

wow, I’m just getting outta bed this morning and see hundreds of posts to catch up on already! You guys were busy!

I did not watch SWWNBN live, but I caught just her snippets on HuffPo. Pathetic. Stiff. Unfunny. I knew it. That hadda hurt.

And how poetic would it be if the new investigation proves many many more insults to the taxpayers of Alaska? I think she dug her own grave there… I laughed when they tried to call it off, too. It’s like she thinks, also, she can do anything she wants, also. You betcha!

19 10 2008
Jamie, Floridian in Florida

@eajphd Molten Contra Palin (00:41:26) :
Jamie, Floridian in France (00:15:43) :
Hi Jamie how’s it going on the shlep?

Ooh! If you mean my mom……I have sent her some videos to watch – the Jew stuff and the Who is Barack Obama, easy stuff to watch and the Sarah palin Fiscal Conservative (I have sent a couple of them copy to her vile friend who has been sending her ALL the smear/lies etc about Obama) and she finally wrote back saying “I don’t talk about politics”. I am still trying! Thanks for asking. I, too, feel like it is so important cause every damn vote does count!!!

19 10 2008
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19 10 2008
Goalie Sanka Palin in NM

Maybe this has already been asked and answered – but for the sake of repeating it loud and clear: Is there any organized effort for a recall of Gov. Palin at this point in time? I’ve heard talk but nothing else so far?

Can anyone comment?

Thanks! Seems to me that abuse of power is quite serious, especially for the Gov. of a State..

19 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

Hardcore right-wing republicans rioting when Obama wins? That IS funny; the image of them burning McCain’s 7 houses made me laugh out loud!
I think the riot would make a good SNL skit.
And God knows they need some decent material; only the political bits and the news are worth wasting your time watching…

I’ll admit I did watch SP on it, last night. Six of one, half dozen of the other… It was funny that she was getting trashed while she stood there, watching. Not tremendously funny, but she didn’t get to score any points of her own. And Tina Fey was great, as usual–and so was Amy Poehler. I’m sure SP understood NONE of the jokes. But that’s nothing new.

19 10 2008
sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party

Thanks for the lyrics, ds55. I still have all the comments to read between your lyrics and the comment box, but I’m thinking those words would sound so much better with apollo3000 doing the singing.

The idiots are out and clammering here in pennsyltucky. What a bunch of whiners. They say Powell’s endorsement of Obama is made only because they are brotha’s.

Nothing funnier than listening to a bunch of farmers trying to sound hip with their yips of “brotha can you spare me a dime.” Pathetic, too.

19 10 2008
SC Strike Chipper Hussein Palin

@ ira2
Where do you live? Just curious. I enjoy your posts.

@ everybody
Thanks to the poster who reminded us that racism is everywhere, not just in the south–and it has always been so
I’ve been living here in the deep South (SC) for a couple of decades now and while racism is not extinct, by any means, there are oh so many improvements that even in this blood-red state–there is still hope!
The reason that the natives hate the most is that “outsiders” keep moving in for jobs and retirement and such. Most of them, thankfully, aren’t interested in preserving the “heritage” that promotes racism–and they are raising their children that way,too.
It’s slow going, but it is happening.
And it will continue. Yes, it will.

And now I’ve got to get away from the computer and go buy a newspaper.
L8R, Mudpuppies.

19 10 2008
Baseball Hussein Daytona Palin (CT)

Hi Kids,

I’m afraid I have some very bad news for all of you. SNL had the highest rating last night in 14 years (or so they say). I, like many of you refused to watch it too. This really burns me up, it’s just more ego food for Queen Palin. I bet her staffers won’t shield her from this news as it doesn’t seem to be on par with ALL OF THE OTHER articles printed in recent weeks to protect her from getting “depressed.”

The good news is that Colin Powell endorsed Obama!!! Faux News, of course, is calling it a “racial thing.” They are also smearing Gen Powell because, after all, he did resign. Unreal. Well, that’s okay since the McCain campaign fired right back with an endorsement of their own: Worldwide Tela Mundo super-soap opera star, Katie Barberi! She and Joe Lieberman, and I am not making this up, are campaigning together in Florida. Take that, General Powell! Hope the dymanic duo have better turn outs at their rallies than the First Dude…

I read on HuffPo that Todd Palin spoke for 3 minutes(!) today in PA to 75 whopping people at some gun club. He declared that “hunting and fishing” are “core values” of Americans. To be honest, I have never been to Alaska and I know things are different there, but hunting and fishing are “core values?” Don’t know about the rest of you, but while raising my son, I tried to instill “values” of honesty, integrity, responsibility, and humility. Stupid me! I’ll now be kicking myself in the head and losing sleep for the rest of my life that I didn’t teach him the “core values” to hunt or fish AND my son has already voted for Obama! Bad mom! Oh, and hint to Todd, if you can’t make logical statements in front of 75 whole people, you have absolutely ZERO business running in the same league with Obama who drew 175,00 people in one day!

Just another day of “You Can’t Make This Stuff Up.”

20 10 2008
Marnie

This has to have been mentioned somewhere, and I’ve just missed it.

But since Palin appointed the Board, doesn’t it have to recuse itself in its entirety as a matter ethics, if not by state law or other prohibition? There is a 100% conflict of interest going here.
Kind of like asking Palin’s children if they would vote for their mother.

Strikes me that the safest thing for the Personnel Board to do is to declare their investigation redundant and unnecessary, as the Legislative investigation has already issued a report. Among other things it saves some tax dollars.

Or, it could, depending on how its charter is worded, simply state that its role is to review issues of the hired employees of the state, not the elected or appointed ones, and again refer the issue back to the ethics committee’(s’) of the Legislature.

At a guess, even though the whole board is made up of Palin cronies, they probably do not appreciate being put in this position by her, especially since it involves national and international attention. I am sure they have noticed what happened to Joe the Plumer’s privacy when the national news spot light was put on him by the McCain campaign as their cause celebre of the day

Or, their best move, to get the monkey and the spotlight off of their back, is to throw the issue back to the Legislature. Their lawyer can do his investigation under their authority, they review it, and then refer it and their layer to the appropriate elected body.

If the Board’s finding is significantly different, ie. more favorable to Palin, than the Legislature’s, it will cause all sorts of anger and divisiveness, that could last for years. That would be particularly true if Palin returns a governor and tries to lead the state with this mess causing hard feelings in the legislature, meanwhile governing and running the state will fall through the cracks. Just like it has in Washington.




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