It’s 9:15 in Alaska, and the Legislative Council is meeting right now.
The Legislative Council is expected to vote sometime today whether to make the 263-page report public. The legislators will first meet behind closed doors, starting around 9 a.m. this morning, to receive a briefing from Steve Branchflower, the investigator they hired to look into the governor’s dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, and whether she improperly pressured him to fire a state trooper divorced from her sister. The meeting of the 14-member council will be at the downtown Anchorage Legislative Information Office.
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Meantime, a group calling itself “Alaskans for Truth” wrote a letter to Palin on Thursday saying the Supreme Court decision proves that “there is no evidence this investigation has been anything but ‘fair and just.’ ” The group organized an anti-Palin rally late last month, called for the attorney general to lose his job over his handling of the investigation, and encouraged people to urge members of the Legislative Council to make Branchflower’s report public.
Drumming fingers on desk….looking at clock….drinking coffee….
what’s that sound? 1000’s of mudflatter’s fingers drumming in anticipation.
hose Hussein hotrod
Can you peel potatoes at you computer? Can’t leave long enough to get dinner started!
are we there yet?
i’m starving
Waiting with anticipation and coffee jitters!
That would be “your” (obviously you can’t while typing.)
Is it still felt that the votes are there to make the report public? I’m not totally understanding the make it public/keep it to ourselves issue. Elucidation by smart mudflatters would be welcome.
waiting with all you guys….
where are you cassie jeep? it’s just lunchtime here in Minnesota.
Oh, I’m on the edge of my seat! I wish I didn’t have to work…well, maybe it’s good that I do, to distract me from the anxiety I feel about this whole mess.
AKM, I just wanted to say thank you for this site, the forum, and your insightful writing. You have given so many of us, especially those of us here in Alaska who consider ourselves progressive, a place to feel like we’re not so alone.
No matter what happens, I will be forever grateful for the peace and sanity that you have brought to me and others that visit here.
So, she refused to testify and is now complaining she wasn’t interviewed?
Palin has refused to cooperate with the Legislature’s investigation, although the campaign says she is cooperating with a separate probe by the state personnel board. Palin’s lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, said the Branchflower report won’t be complete because the investigator didn’t interview key witnesses including the governor and her former chief of staff, Mike Tibbles.
“They didn’t even try to interview the governor. You want to know why she reassigned Monegan, it would be nice to talk to her. They didn’t even try,” Van Flein said.
“It’s a report that’s going to be half-done at best. And anything that’s half-done will likely be half-baked.”
She really wants it all, doesn’t she? Sarah logic: I’m not talking to you. And because I’m not talking to you, I can claim you didn’t talk to me. So there.
http://www.adn.com/front/story/551531.html
playing silly computer card game here.
soon as it’s out, leaked or official, get it out into the wild.
This will be a long few hours!
Here’s a funny political halloween video to watch while we’re waiting.
A little levity for a tense Friday:
Partisan Political Pumpkins Battle to Squash Each Other
The group organized an anti-Palin rally late last month, called for the attorney general to lose his job over his handling of the investigation, and encouraged people to urge members of the Legislative Council to make Branchflower’s report public.
Actually, I think that the attorney general should lose his license to practice law, along with losing his job. He advised public employees to break the law. I have read that the Alaska Bar Association is looking into whether or not he should lose his license. It would be fitting justice if he did.
good practice for the early hours of 11/5
“He’s not the McCain I endorsed.” (another staunch Republican with doubts)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/gop-former-gov-he-is-not_n_133594.html
hose hotrod palin
Amazing how the actions of an obscure committee in the previously ignored outer reaches of the country, has transfixed us mudflatters all over the world. But here I am hitting the refresh button while putting off all my Friday errands.
Is this normal??? LOL
upnorth minnesota aka hose Hussein hotrod (09:23:35) :
where are you cassie jeep? it’s just lunchtime here in Minnesota.
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In NC, but company’s coming, you know how that goes (*sigh*).
Can I call and cancel them?
I can only imagine how anxious you and other concerned Alaskans feel. Will your legislators strike a blow for honor and integrity or cave in to partisan politics? Stay tuned.
epic (09:27:51) :
good practice for the early hours of 11/5
I believe it will be over by 9 PM the night of the 4th – it will be a landslide
Drumming fingers on desk….looking at clock….drinking coffee….
You and me both, pal. It’s almost 6:30pm London time and I’ve been waiting all day… nay, all MONTH for this.
I’m going home. Maybe by the time I’ve survived the evening commute there will be something new. Thanks for the great job you’re doing covering this, AKM!!!
Is this normal???
Of course it is! What’s your point?
hwmnbn — normal or not, we’re all doing it. I am so far behind on work it’s scary! But these are not ordinary or “normal” times. I can’t remember an election or a political moment in my life when more has been at stake (and I’m not just speaking about the Branchflower report of course).
hose Hussein hotrod
Stoppage Lead Palin (09:30:01) :
Safe home, Stoppage
I’m going to set a mouse macro to hit the refresh button
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
All Eyes are on the Alaska State Legislature
((O)) ((O))
A little more levity…
http://palinquotes.sillycloud.com/
breathe in, breathe out
breathe in, breathe out
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
Moose?
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
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maybe you should go as a moose or a polar bear. i hope your wife remembers the fashion essential “real women hunt moose” canvas bag
Baron van Butcher – how about dressing up as a moose?
another prominent conservative for Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/william-f-buckleys-son-en_n_133570.html
hose Hussein hotrod
I have to keep running outside to smoke, but I’m not supposed to be smoking. I drummed a little trench into the desk already.
The good part is, regardless of what happens today, there is still a mountain of other stuff she has to answer for, and that is just hitting the MSM now,…like AIP,
hidden emails, Bitney’s firing, Ruedrich’s hacking,….the list goes on and on.
I would like to know who the heck Stapleton thinks she’s fooling with these repeated press releases. Have they never heard, “Methinks he doth protest too much”?
If you were innocent, you’d smugly shut up and wait for the announcement that you are,..this reminds me so much of my kids, one running in screaming “I didn’t do it! He’s lying!” and the other one walking in with a big foot print (kid #1’s) printed squarely on the front of his t-shirt!
And yes, she(#1) insisted that he(#2) did it to himself.
Smoke.
I hope they release that soon, this isn’t helping my ‘no-smoking’ campaign.
Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
How’s your “dead wolf” impression?
“Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!”
Brian the Moose!
Whether they make the entire report public or not, they will make the conclusion public.
Baron Von Butcher: I suggest you go either as a moose, and have your wife periodically hunt, shoot, bag and tag you…or go as Russia, and have her spot you all night long.
Topical!
on the moose idea – great minds think alike
baron von …
go as a moose… or if you can manage it just a moose head.
hHh
19:35, Sweden. Dearest Boyf has gone to fix the washing machine while I sit here with a glass of wine. Hope I don’t have to wait too long or the dinner will burn and I’ll be drunk beneath the desk…
AKM, you’re the best!
i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i
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Alaska State Legislature
get it?
Or, you could go as a mudpuppy!
Whether they make the entire report public or not, they will make the conclusion public.
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cool— that’s good to know.
It is nice of you to keep the world informed about what is going on with regard to Governor Palin. I must say Alaska is certainly getting a black eye with Palin’s conduct, Stevens’ trial, and all of the bragging Palin has done about encountering corruption (even in her own party) and how she “cleaned it up”. It’s good to know that Alaska has decent people who care about right and wrong. Sorry to say it but I am hoping you will have Governor Palin to yourselves pretty soon. I am more than sick of her and would be happy for her to go back to cleanin’ things up in Alaska. Perhaps she can start with herself, her family, and her friends.
Baron Von Butcher: You could rear your head and go as Putin.
Did everybody see the rabid dogs (mckkk/impalin supporters) turn on john and scarah yesterday?
nancy-Indiana a.k.a buckshot palin
a dead buck? A running wolf? Obama? Branchflower?
hwmnbn:
not sure if we are normal but here we all are! I too am putting off errands and such.
I’m in Los Angeles, waiting…
Baron Von Butcher said(09:33:33) :
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
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Just shadow your wife. Don’t speak. Look smarmy. And if you have a daughter, it would complete the family album if you’d get her a pregnant costume and drag her around with you. Literally, drag her around.
Waiting here in Oregon with all of you. We have a state wide inservice day – so no school – and I am drinking the coffee – refreshing the page and wishing someone would start lunch for me!
whoops, wrong person,..meant that for Baron von butcher,…need a coffee
A Brit abroad aka Flag Hussein Cobra (09:36:55) :
19:35, Sweden. Dearest Boyf has gone to fix the washing machine while I sit here with a glass of wine. Hope I don’t have to wait too long or the dinner will burn and I’ll be drunk beneath the desk…
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So, since it’s after five somewhere, can we all start drinking now?
Thanks Mudders, I would love to be Pastor Muthee but I don’t think a white guy in Black face will go over too well. But it would be fun to chase all the witches around!
Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
Do you look more like McCain or Todd?
nancy-Indiana a.k.a buckshot palin —
I think you should go as McPimpin’ Daddy! Basically that is what McCain has her and Cindy for, so he can pimp them out to the public with his hate and abuse!
For this costume though, you need to have Cindy and Palin as well….and they can both dress the part..you know what I mean..Cindy should have a bottle in her hand (or 2 or 3) and you already got Sarah’s part down…I could put in more details but I think you get the jist of the whole McPimpin thing… ha ha ha!
waving to cmac …
another californian here
or go as Russia, and have her spot you all night long.
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great idea! along the same lines you could go as the truth and similarly she could try to cover you up the whole time. perhaps, you could spend the night walking behind her in the shadow of her beehive
Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
Could you stomach going as McCain? Also, I think your wife might need to drag a baby doll around. She could always strap it to her belt (like a pelt) if she needs her hands free.
I could pull off the First Dude look. What do you Alaskans call that facial hair of his?
I think it’s incredible that so many people are here waiting for an answer..
We’re all in this together and we all truly hate Failin and McGrumpy and this may end the American Nightmare.
lets hope!
i’m liking the mudpuppy costume.
get a dalmation oufit, cover it in mud and wear yellow boots.
perfect
@ Cassie
Absolutely, it’s Friday night here… see you under the desk in a couple of hours…
@Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33)
how about the bridge to nowhere?
I posted this yesterday,…aw , gee, is she a hypocrite?
http://www.youtube.com/SarahPalinSings
Just watch the video for a few seconds, and listen to the words,…ahem
Baron Von Butcher (09:41:52) :
I could pull off the First Dude look. What do you Alaskans call that facial hair of his?
A Brazilian
let’s tell where we’re all from.
los angeles here
Just changing my name a bit…
Mudflats,
Would it be possible to talk a bit about the 14 member panel (or link to previous posts where you’ve probably already done that)? Any inclination which way the panel will vote?
Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
Moose or wolf?
let’s tell where we’re all from.
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from MA, living in IN and KY concurrently and going to school in OH
Maine
I like Putin for a costume. Can you get rubber masks of politicians who aren’t Americans? LOL
Moose is also good, but how about just going as AKM? All you need is wellies and use your imagination for the rest!
hi fawnskin!
i remember you when you were just fawnskin, way back 5 weeks ago when I stumbled across this womnderful blog in my search for who the heck was this sarah pain person. I remember someone named SUe who correctly stated that Palin’s daughter was pregnant long before the Palin’s came out with it…..and just thinking as each day went by that this couldn’t possibly get any wierder….fast forward to today…what a long strange trip it’s been.
And its not over yet either I feel, not by a long shot.
Yes…a Bridge to Nowhere! That is great. Now, where is my sons Erector Set!
lol i wrote sarah pain – meant Palin…
could they vote to not release it?
from Switzerland, living in Montreal, Canada
Howdy Fiddlesticks (from just across the border in New Brunswick). Planning any protests when Todd shows up?
hey muckie.. think you could open a live chat ?? we’re all going crazy waiting for an answer..!
I’m all a-twitter as well, but I suspect that the announcement will be towards close of business today, so the board can dodge questions over the weekend.
By the way, how can Alaskans swallow the whole “I absolve myself of any wrong-doing” cr*p*la? Even if you think the Branchflower investigation is politically compromised, how can you trust *anybody* to effectively investigate themselves? It’s used-car-salesmanry of the worst sort — made horrible because it’s so obvious.
It’s what got us in the financial mess we’re in. Banana plantation, meet monkeys; monkeys, meet keys.
What I find fascinating is that Palin keeps up the chipper “ain’t nothin’ wrong here” front *right up until she’s found out* and then procedes straight into denial.
1) It makes me think that she doesn’t really believe that tomorrow will come.
2) I’ve dealt with this sort of thing before with in-laws: I’ll bet dollars to donuts that there is no sure history in the Palin household — history shifts under their feet to become whatever it needs to be to make the arguments work. I bet the only *unchanging* thing, the only reliable thing in the household are the religious rituals — the songs, etc. “Well, Mom’s saying stuff again, but at least today’s Bible verse hasn’t changed on me.”
I admit, I could be projecting.
Teacher workday in my part of Georgia so all three kids plus a neighbor here. Should be packing my son’s gear for his boy scout outing with Daddy. Should be cleaning mixer so we can make icing for the pumpkin cake my daughter, her friend, and I made. Instead, taking advantage of baby napping to bite my nails with mudflatters…
epic: soon as it’s out, leaked or official, get it out into the wild.
Like I said yesterday…this will find it’s way on to the Internet within 48-72 hours no matter what. Someone will “accidentally” leave a copy on a reporters desk; you know the drill (baby drill?)
It’ll be out there come hell or high water. The only hope for this to get buried in the mix is the bad news on Wall Street today…but it might just add fuel to the fire.
Fingers crossed here in NJ.
No matter what AKM, outstanding reporting and bringing the light of truth to us all. You are to be commended.
Wondering Lake–LOVED the video!
Baron Von Butcher (09:44:58) :
Yes…a Bridge to Nowhere! That is great. Now, where is my sons Erector Set!
Dunno mate but JMc’s has the day off apparently
Wilmington, NC. You people are pretty darn funny as your life savings trickle away.
From? Cheshire (not the posh bit, before other Brits make assumptions). UK.
Now? North of Sweden (think mini Alaska with less environmental damage).
Baron Von Butcher (09:41:52) :
I could pull off the First Dude look. What do you Alaskans call that facial hair of his?
Madam Governor?
Phoenix Arizona
hould be cleaning mixer so we can make icing for the pumpkin cake my daughter, her friend, and I made. Instead, taking advantage of baby napping to bite my nails with mudflatters…
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mmmmmmm pumpkin cake, i am so hungry i’ve got to eat soon
Checking in to wait with everybody! It’s almost dinner time here:)
Hi Shove Maggot!
I’ve heard that he’s going to be in the northern part of the state. I live at the other end. I’ve been brainstorming ideas for signs if the “First Dud” does come this way though. Any suggestions?
Has anyone seen Palin on tv today? or is she in her usual place? hiding under the bed in a fetal position crying..
@knikgoose HUSSEIN!! (09:47:04) : What do you Alaskans call that facial hair of his?
I don’t know what Alaskan’s call it, but I’d call it a soul-less patch.
Illinois, but that went without saying
I can’t cope with waiting. I’m going to the gym. Have to work off the nervous tension somehow… see how far I can run on the treadmill with my fingers crossed!
Of course you realise what will happen now? The moment I switch off the laptop and leave the house, they’ll release the report and everything will go crazy. This rule has been proved many times on major sporting events!
I’m a transplant from Connecticut living in Florida now. I have to keep refreshing the page and cleaning the house inbetween! It is 1:50 p.m. here.
Seems the wingnut reports ALL say Sarah did not know anything, ALL TODD’S FAULT, blah blah blah. Also waiting (in Los Angeles).
Odum GA
I keep telling myself to leave this computer and accomplish something, but seems all I can accomplish is refreshing this screen!
I’m hoping since it’s Friday and they all want to leave for the weekend, maybe they’ll announce at lunch?!!
’ve heard that he’s going to be in the northern part of the state. I live at the other end. I’ve been brainstorming ideas for signs if the “First Dud” does come this way though. Any suggestions?
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“*@$! off you creepy git”
But that’s just me.
I still remember when Palin was first selected as the VP running-mate and Troopergate was a blip on the screen. “A small blemish” on Palin’s otherwise stellar reputation was what one commentator called it. What a difference five weeks, gross ineptitude by the McCain-Bush operatives, and Todd Palin’s lack of boundaries makes.
Thanks for all the updates. It makes all of us down here in the lower 48 feel so much closer to ya guys ‘n’ gals up there in Alaska. Ya betcha!
Here’s a great video, you have to get through the first part it’s a bit rough. But the end is worth it. Take a few minutes to reflect on the message.
Is there any chance that or legal option for the campaign to take the AK Supremes ruling to US Court of Appeals ?
Some humor – if Obama is “That One” then McCain is ‘The Erratic One” and Palin is the “Rabid One”…..
Obama is live right now on CNN live…in OH
Fiddlesticks (09:48:49) : Ideas for protest signs…
MAINE MOOSE AGAINST MCCAIN/PALIN?
I can see Canada from my house — can I be UN ambassador?
Sorry, Dud. If Olympia was the Republican VP nominee, McCain might be winning Maine.
“Of course you realise what will happen now? The moment I switch off the laptop and leave the house, they’ll release the report and everything will go crazy. This rule has been proved many times on major sporting events!”
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Please switch off your laptop and leave the building.
West Virginia here–probably didn’t need to tell you that.
JK Copper Catfish Hussein RefusetobePalin (0
Go. Go to the gym. If you’re right, our waiting will end then
It looks like we are going to need more games….I’m another x-smoker trying not to relaps…
*knock knock knock*
“Who is it?”
“It’s OCTOBER!! SURPRISE!!!!!”
I think it will be released. And I think it won’t be pretty for her. Then I wonder what will be done. Replacement? Excuses and accusations? Or maybe they’ll try to distract more by saying that Obama isn’t really an American… oh wait, they already did that.
This struck me today, after talking with some co-workers about the hate-filled speeches and reactions; McShameOnYou and his sidekick Tart are preaching to the choir. All those fools that yell out the obscenities and such are going to vote for them no matter if they found out either one of them had a black ancestor (Oh Heavens!) But if you notice, many of the peaceful people going to Obama rallies are uncommitted or RINO’s that want to actually hear what he’s offering. What a difference.
GO ALASKA!!! Make us proud.
in case you want to visualize what is going on right now in the meeting, from ADN:
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132527
Thought i was going to hurl today..
My ex called to tell me something about my daughter .. Asked her if she was sick of all the bs mcgrumpy was spewing and she said it was all worthwhile since he’s clearly the best candidate out there and obama is a terrorist and probably a baby killer.
I have to take deep pride in the fact that while my ex is insane, my kids are BOTH voting obama..!! At least my genes of common sense transferred to them.. My ex thought she was being honorable by not mailing my sons absentee ballot to him (he’s at college)… geeze.. idiot..
Thought that was worth telling everyone how proud daddy is.!
Play the “Sarah Palin Shoot ‘Em Up Game”
under Fun Stuff in the right margin ===>>>
I am SO sick of blogs screaming how “regular” and “authentic” and “Joe SixPack” is Palin. How “regular” is it to have two of the few highly educated parents in a small town? How “authentic” is it to spend a year or more “finding” yourself in Hawaii? How “Joe Sixpack” to be shrewd enough to almost win Miss Alaska. I think it was that awful flute performance that did her in. She has had INCREDIBLE opportunity to thrive, educate and inform herself while living in Alaska. And what did she do? She used her body, face, sex appeal and cunning to use and backstab her way to the top. Thanks for letting me rant :X
Gotta get to the bank before it closes. TTYAL!
John Kerry said McCain-Palin should be disqualified for inciting hate, etc.
go to huffpo
hHh
lori w…
west la here
I know someone dismissed the earlier reference many blogs ago (by me and someone else) to Casey Anthony…the girl in Florida whose daughter is missing…but what 0while1 wrote above about lying RIGHT UP UNTIL YOU CAN”T LIE ANYMORE is so like Casey. If you have not followed the case, one of the crazier things Casey did was to tell the police she worked at Universal Studios (which she no longer did), let them take her there, tell the guards at gate who she worked for, still insist it was so after they said they did not have anyone by that name, go with the cops past the guards to show them her location of work in the complex, and walk all the way down a hall to a door before admitting something like, “I don’t work here.”
I am not saying Palin is in same range of crazy that Casey is in, but I am saying they both use their good looks, charm, and ability to lie to your face as long and as intensely as they can. Truth shifting under your feet, as Owhile1 talked about…
Pathological liars are fascinating. That is why I love the title “Alaskans for Truth.”
fawnskin – san fernando valley here, nice to meet you.
Thanks for the protest sign suggestions!
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater
I had to dump my ex until it’s over. (one of those off/on kinda things)
He told me Palin was going to save the USA.
I told him that I like her as much as I like Celine Dion.
He knows what that means, so he’s steering clear.
Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin. She is borrowing an AK-47 from a friend. What should be my costume? Let the ideas fly!
Well to quote Bristol’s articulate ‘baby daddy’, I think it’s obvious you should go as ‘f**kin redneck.
Or maybe you could go as ‘Old Joe’ Vogler. He seems like a fun kind of guy.
However I think any costume you pick as a complement to the lovely Sarah will have to include a weapon bigger than her AK-47. I don’t know my assault weapons all that well so not sure what that would be.
Of course if you really want to make a statement, just go as a dead wolf.
shove maggot…you still have money in the bank?
congrats !
Barb from Illinois (09:52:34) :
Here’s a great video, you have to get through the first part it’s a bit rough. But the end is worth it. Take a few minutes to reflect on the message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUAFUoz3jc
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Thanks, Barb, I really needed that right now.
Baron
I think you should go as Bristol. It is Halloween, after all.
In high school I got to dissect a frog and a worm . I wonder if mccain
will let me remove his next tumor?
Baron – What about going as Cindy?
M-1 is a pretty mean machine gun..:)
“The future belongs to those who are passionate and work hard.” Paul Wellstone (quoted by Al Franken). I do believe this is true. Go Obama!!
hHh
and nice to meet you, lori w.
too bad we all don’t have a way to actually exchange emails privately.
Palin is a sociopath.
She can’t hear herself calling Obama a terrorist because he served on a board, and had coffee with, a college professor who was a terrorist, 40 years ago,..yet, she can claim to have no idea what the guy she has sex with, is doing.
No idea. She didn’t know. What a surprise!
Okay, how much is this worth to the Palin’s in $$$$???
Christian? my eye.
Here’s hoping for the best,
LOVE YOU AKM, YOU ARE THE BEST.
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater (09:55:41) :
Big pat on the back for you!!!
Lurker do you promise to do it without novacaine?
Isn’t it pretty obvious that if this group votes to not release it, about 8 people or more will be hell bent on leaking it? It’s useless to even try to keep it under wraps. Next question is, assuming she is found to have exerted pressure and messed with someone’s worker’s compensation, does a Governor get censured? Impeached? Charged and hauled off to jail? Or do they get to sit there and spin that it was a witch hunt. (I think they found one, but that is another comment)
Off Topic, but FUNNY!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/acting-like-a-dick_b_133610.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/acting-like-a-dick_b_133610.html
an ADN report on the legislator’s meeting:
http://www.adn.com/news/story/551898.html
hHh
Oh, my goodness! I’ve been reading mudflats for awhile now. You people are wonderful, if you don’t mind compliments from a Pennsylvanian. Allentown to be exact. Next door to Bethlehem. I watched the video of McCainites and Palinites going into Stabler arena on Wednesday and was appalled by the anger.
At a Veterans for Peace meeting last night in Bethlehem I heard that people had been bussed in from New York and many license plates from New Jersey were in the parking lot.
Marilyn
Lurker “That one” Hussein Palin (10:02:42) :
In high school I got to dissect a frog and a worm . I wonder if mccain
will let me remove his next tumor?
I think she’ll leave on her own soon; no problemo.
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (09:22:06) :
Can you peel potatoes at you computer? Can’t leave long enough to get dinner started!
funny!
“A lawsuit aimed at forcing Gov. Sarah Palin to preserve any private e-mails she wrote involving state business . . . is scheduled for 10 a.m. today in Anchorage Superior Court . . . Former state employee Andree McLeod filed the suit a week ago . . .” http://www.adn.com/politics/story/551515.html
Anybody know the Amazingly Awesome Andree personally?
How about going as an empty piggy bank with lipstick?
Okay, Alaskans, it is 8 pm here in Nantes France and I have been so anxious I have been checking your blog for an announcement since I was up at 7 am even tho I knew that you were all asleep and there was no way I would get any info for hours. So far, to pass the time, I have made homemade bread, a chocolate cake, maki rolls and I’m still waiting.
About the Halloween costume – as your wife is going as Sarah (don’t forget the tiara to go with AK 47), I like the moose idea, but how about going as Putin?
Jamie
Fiddlesticks (09:34:09) :
A little more levity…
http://palinquotes.sillycloud.com/
I just want to know who it was who transcribed these quotes. How did they, first of all, and then I want to know how they managed to figure out the punctuation!? I have transcribed many a brief and that is a real talent, punctuation. I don’t think I cudda’ done it.
This is giving me nervous tics. We want to KNOW!
They are reporting on MSNBC that the report is over 300 pages and 1000 pages of exhibits.. Damn,,, she is the proverbial DEAD IDIOT WALKING..
Lets hope.. but it sure is starting to look bad for the little woman…
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater (10:03:57) :
Lurker do you promise to do it without novacaine?
I was thinking leeches and other blood letting cuts because if the patients
blood pressure is low it won’t be so painful.
Costume idea?
How about you go as a “six pack” or at least ONE cold beer can…
Will AKM write in this thread when the good news is up? I am so nervous..
McCain?Palin knowingly hide thousands of terrorists … Let then run free in the streets .. (I know off topic )
With there way of thinking Obama associated with a terrorist so he is in question …
The guy who was later awarded citizen of the year ( I would say that is a reformed guy by any standard) who co authored a 49.2 million dollar grant to help people out ( I wish I could do that ) ( how many of his critics have done 1% of that for there community ?) Mr Ayers ,, Well he is a teacher and has taught how many sons and daughters ,, how many close affiliates of the sons and daughters (parents)
According to McCain/Palin all the parents sons and daughters this man has been in contact with are terrorists . All the faculty at the school are terrorists ,,all the family of all the faculty would be associates of terrorists .
RIGHT ????? Well McCain why are you letting all these terrorists you know about run loose ??? We must be in danger ,, because you did nothing about it Mr McCain…
Now I am just some guy sitting here and figured this out with little research ,, almost no effort ,, in a few minutes …
WHAT THE F IS UP WITH THE PRESS ??????
What kind of lazy no work , no reporting losers have they become ??
I would like to see this or something like it printed up and asked to any reporter .. What do you think of this point of view ??
All these other people are not terrorists ,,,Obama is not a terrorist ..
Or in order to sick to your story you call all the people I have listed and more terrorists ..
Right or wrong ???? Ask McCain at the next debate if he thinks all these people that have been in the classroom of Ayers are terrorists ..
He says no thus exonerating Obama
Denise
Palin has been rude to Andree in the past, calling her “The Felafel Lady” because she used to sell it.
I wish AKM would open a live chat like he did for the debates..
would be nice to read without refreshes..
but i’m sure he has someone at the hearings and we’ll probably know the moment it’s made public.
Husband seems to have decided the only way to deal with the tension is to start painting the house! You know the thing we can’t sell? Hopefully, good news will arrive before we actually get finished.
Still another unhappy conservative speaks out against mcpalin tactics.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/republican-congressman-cr_n_133623.html
hHh
I just realized my new initials are the same as that great Minnesotan’s, Hubert Horatio Humphrey!! hoo hoo. Now theres’ someone who would have called a spade a spade in this situ.
Its 3:10 pm here in Nova Scotia and i’m hanging in there with the rest of you.
Georgia here…actually almost in the city (in a little area called Decatur) but have lived everywhere (from Maryland to AZ to NM to Germany over the past 20+ years!) but Georgia is now home and although you see tons of Obama signs in the city, the conservative suburbanites are about to drive me crazy!!!!! I might lose friends over this one — some of the women actually LOVE Sarah and their husbands just thinks she’s GREAT (eh hem, you know what that means) so they are voting for her — no one to date has been able to give me political reasons why/why not!
Marty — we have something in common…my ex is on the McPalin ticket as well…he is back in the military (now a Lt. Col) and thinks that anyone who has served is better than someone who hasn’t. My daughter, now 19 got into it with him the other day (BIG TIME) about politics because she just wanted some reasoning and he couldn’t give it. I told my son (17) not to get into it because he is SO pro Obama (killing him he can’t vote yet) that trying to reason with his crazy dad wasn’t worth the effort.
Baron–How about going as Ted Stevens?
Best,
Cincykid aka Puffin Shrapnel Palin
“Welcome to The Reckoning, 1st Dud!”
“Sitting duck. Boom. Down you go.”
“Will Sarah submit your foot for her bounty?”
“Hey Iron Man, she rusted you a good one there.”
i’m in LA … just waiting … like everyone else! usually the time difference works great for me here; i wake up in the morning faced with great new articles from the east coast. but alaska, you’re one hour behind! get moving legislators!
Oh the Agony! Oh the waiting! As I stated before, I’m normally a Republican and I try to stay informed about the candidates. I was slightly leaning toward McCain Because (as I stated in my blog) I saw this economic mess coming a year ago and I felt McCain had a better grasp on the economy that Obama. I’m an engineer not an economist. If someone such as I could see trouble down the road where are all of the so called professionals? I anxiously awaited McCain’s pick for VP. I was shocked at his pick but, since I had never heard of her, I did some investigating via the Internet and Google. Within six hours I switched my leaning from McCain to Obama. Believe me, this woman is trouble with a capital T. If you think she was bad for Alaska wait until McAged kicks the bucket if he wins (I in 3 chance in 8 years-15% in 4 years.) Think of her actions with her limited power as Alaska Governor. Now think of the same person in the most powerful office in the land. I feel that if Sarah Palin ever becomes President our only salvation would be if she was overthrown in a military coup.
http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/
Putin would be good…I do have a Judo-looking outfit. Now how do I “rear my head over Alaskan airspace”? Thanks for all the great ideas.
Regi (09:56:15) : I’m SO sick of blogs screaming how “regular” and “authentic” and “Joe SixPack” is Palin.
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Where you been hanging out? Must be the insulated Right-Wing-World. Or either the Right-Wing-Warriers are invading.
Hi Alaskans!
I am really getting the feel for Alaska… and love the spirit you have for the truth! I sent an e-mail to the legislators this morning to let them know that I need this information BEFORE I vote.
If they are honest members of your legislative branch, they will understand the importantance of releasing the report so all of us in the lower 48 can really know who we’re voting for. This is so important to me because I want no more of this Cheney-style cover-up and the court battles over executive privilege, etc.
I’ll keep checking for the news of today’s events! Thanks for keeping us informed about this critical situation. Can you even believe this is happening?
Wish we could have an SMS alert!
from PALMETTO, fLORIDA
Get this… http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/284023/36/ … not too unexpected.
8:13 pm central european time. Time for a shot of cognac to mellow me out.
Jane, even if your son can’t vote, be very proud of him for his convictions.. He’ll do well in 4 years..!
my ex watches fox news.. so you can understand her viewpoint.. i said put on ANY OTHER news to get real information and not right wing vitreole..
I am watching Biden.. he’s getting fired up.. no tie, just angry.. ! he was on msnbc..
It almost seems that john Mckkk/sarah”witchcraft-free since 2005″palin
are trying to incite riots so bush can declair marshal law?
Hi ya’ll ! No news yet???
Barb from Illinois (09:52:34) :
Here’s a great video, you have to get through the first part it’s a bit rough. But the end is worth it. Take a few minutes to reflect on the message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUAFUoz3jc
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Yes, thanks Barb. The choice is that simple – hope or hate.
That was very uplifting.
I faced some hate today as I had a co-worker tell me he can’t vote for Obama back he is black. My co-worker is Vietnamese. I asked him if he knew McCain called Vietnamese ‘gooks’? He didn’t care. In fact his answer was, “Hey I’m a racist too. ” Sigh…
But on the hope side. My 14 year old stood up to some ignorance at school yesterday. A boy was weaking an Obama pin with the Obama scratched out and ‘terrorist’ written in. My daughter confronted him and said, “Obama is not a terrorist’. He called my daughter a ‘demmy’. She thought he said ‘dummy’. And she said, “I’m not the dummy you are! ” And he said, “I called you a demmy – a Democrat!”. And she said, “So what? There nothing wrong with that.”
As she said to me, “Mom, I don’t care if someone doesn’t like Obama, I just don’t like when they tell lies about him.”
Sometimes your kids make you very proud.
Ok folks I have decided. My Halloween costume will be The First Dude! I think I can manage some facial hair by that time.
Apparently, this means that I will have to go straight to the computer at my brother’s house after I leave work today (I have catsitting duties) to wait and see if a decision has been made. I leave in just over 2 hours. Surely those guys can read that report in that time, right?
And it’s not like they really have to. We have already heard from a few members of the Council that they favor releasing the report and will vote to do so.
Is there a danger that a near party line vote in Legislative Council will result in the report not being?
published.
You could carry a globe with you. http://alaskaisclosetorussia.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/putin-rears-his-head/
The Mcmoron lemming on msnbc has nothing else to talk about than Ayers..
They need to get a life.
Hi Palmetto!
I’m in Bradenton – just across the river -for all you up in Alaska. Head someone on MSNBC talking about the soon to be released report. Getting more nervous by the minute here! Hot and sunny here today and the A/C is going strong!
Santa Barbara … waitin
Back from lunch here in Illinois, drumming fingers too. I’m also awaiting the arrival of my “I’m Voting For That One” t shirt form Cafe Press (A big thank you to whichever Mudflatter told us about this…..can’t recall your name, but you know who you are!
I love you guys.
Looks like some of the report will be released and some won’t:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/10/alaska-lawmakers-meet-to-receive-trooper-probe-report/
Fairfax, VA (A burb of.. gulp… washington dc)
Oops…I meant to suggest to Baron that he could carry a globe…not the rest of you! LOL
NJ in the house-waiting!!
Hmmmm, mmmmm, I must say it’s a beautiful day here in central Northern NJ. Warm and cloudless. Cannot leave computer just yet…cannot leave computer just yet…
Bobg, my Repub hubby is an engineer straining under the need to support McPalin. And it shows. He is feeling exceedingly sick over his Reaganomic decisions that repeatedly ignored anything his pragmatic pay-go wife wanted. He now retreats to his FOX cronies O’Really and HandItToMe, learning what to chant to support his mindset. Instead of dealing honestly with his folly.
Is it just me, or is Ayers the ONLY thing mcgrumpy has left to talk about?
Hey Marty, I grew up in Bethesda. Didn’t McCain’s brother call you folks in Fairfax socialists?
Completely unrelated to waiting but I wanted to get this out here and start sourcing some info.
I think the next ‘attack’ from the repub campaign is going to be a tough one to navigate. The Acorn involvement back in the late 90’s and Obama’s involvement in the law suit requiring banks to practice non-discriminatory lending. The attack will be that Obama is directly responsible for the sub-prime lending mess because of his involvement as one of the attorney’s filing the suit. Does anyone have sources out there to give more background to this issue? The repubs already have their selected sound bites out there. I’d like ammo to refute and/or clarify.
I heard on msnbc this morning some business commentators were saying that if Obama get in and taxes business and the rich that the loss of job will be huge. They stopped just short of saying that Oboma will drive this country into a depression. I have never seen scare tactics used in an election like this one.
no.. his bro called us communists.. class runs in the family.. he has the same ugliness mcgrumpy has..
Can the first dud speak? I can’t say I have ever heard him say anything.
hey fawnskin – i’m west LA too!! as a matter of fact, not far from the Obama so-cal headquarters!! woo!
Major, cognac. Ahhh. The only eggnog I ever truly enjoyed featured cognac as the magic ingrediant.
ok, cmac…we have to find a way to communicate. hmmmm.
bobg:
oh that’s funny! that car has already been driven!
Still in my pjs in New Mexico..baby is sleeping…can’t stop hitting refresh. I feel sick. After reading The Todd’s snow job, I’m afraid that even if they do release it, it’ll be a load of shit.
Ugh.
Baron
How about a pig with lipstick?
Don’t go as a moose…I doubt Brian would like to pal around with Sarah.
Sioux Falls SD
Miami Beach checking in for “waiting” duty! I had to take the pup to the vet and then ran home to catch up on our loquacious group. Did another obamasticker poll today on my drive and Obama is holding at 3-1 here in So. Florida. I believe (and the links here seem to agree) that true blue conservatives are not taking well to the “tactics” of McPatty Meltdown. When the Palin mess becomes more front and center the house of evil cards will come down. And the insane, racist hate-mongers will be frantically trying to put Humpty McFrumpty back together again as we move forward without them. I am putting this out in the ether and visualizing it every chance I get. Hopefully the Universe is listening.
fawn: we should go meet at a starbucks with our laptops while we wait. I’m already pretty useless for doing much else today
I’m waiting for news…..
Palin is totally insane. Now she’s out there saying Obama puts ambition over country. Insanity!! I guess she didn’t read John McCain’s book where he says,
“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”
Palin and McCain are the worst this country has to offer.
The only plus side about all of this is that I’ve learned how awesome a lot of Alaskans are, not that I really doubted it before. Ahhhhh….the waiting for the news is killing me!
sheesh
Obama’s involvement in the law suit requiring banks to practice non-discriminatory lending.
And this was bad?
Just called my Representative’s office (Jack Kingston) and told them that I was greatly disturbed by McCain’s hateful and hate filled campaign and that I would be very disappointed if the Republicans did not stand up and denounce the vitriol that is being
prompulgated by his campaign. He’s up for reelection this term. I also told them not to waste my taxpayer dollars by sending me a reply.
There – I feel better.
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater (10:21:26) :
Is it just me, or is Ayers the ONLY thing mcgrumpy has left to talk about?
I guess he can’t talk about the economy!
Damn! Have to go get Rx filled for cat. Must leave computer, cannot obsessively refresh MUDFLATS. Sigh. I’ll be back.
I’m glad to see Ray LaHood (R) from Illinois is finally speaking up about the hate filled McCain rallies. I haven’t supported Mr. LaHood ever, but I have a new respect for him. I think I’ll email him to tell him.
Bobg — interesting that they say that now when we have been in this crisis for a very long time already (and it was just as of recent that people have been truly paying attention!)
The problem is that if Obama gets into office, he’ll inherit this economic disease and crisis that America has and if we go into a major recession, it’s apparent to me that he won’t have been the cause of it at all…just the people’s pick to help fix it…amazing what these reports are saying! But the problem is that fixing something this huge is not a matter of weeks, but much, much longer so whether he or McPalin take it (I shudder to think the latter), they are taking on some major stakes and pains that will have no easy resolution.
Personally, I think Obama has the sense and smarts to tackle it smarter and be more proactive and McCain will just make all of us go that much more broke and protect those with big pocket books!
@Denise
Nothing like a good shot of extra old Napoleon cognac to warm up the spirit.
I feel like I’ve become a very negative person since the Palin (WTF?) nomination, so in an effort to be a kinder, more positive citizen I’m going off topic for a minute here and confessing that I sort of like Bristol, Willow and Piper for girls names. Think they’re kind of cute. Track and Trig, meh, not so much…
My Palin Baby Name Generator name is Sanka Mudflap Palin.
Ask McCain at the next debate if he thinks all these people that have been in the classroom of Ayers are terrorists ..
Um, a guy who is buddies with G. Gordon Liddy (convicted felon and unrepentant socio/psychopath)* has absolutely NO BUSINESS judging other people’s acquaintances…
*that is not based on my opinion, read his own book and it’s frighteningly obvious! and something he’s still proud of!
And I’m in Columbia, South Carolina…
it just occured to me.. wouldnt it be sweet justice if the Natl Enquirer released proof that Baracuda really had an affair with toddies business partner?
that would just be awesome timing..!
So,.. has the little woman been seen anywhere in public today? Or she hiding under her bed?
. . .sitting here in central Kentucky ~ on pins & needles.
I’ve developed hives and everything I should be doing is piling up around my ears.
Please please please ~ let’s hear the truth about this. . .NOW !
UK take on Troopergate: “Today’s long-awaited conclusion comes despite efforts by the Republican party to head off the potentially damaging investigation into Mrs Palin’s record as Governor.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4922229.ece
(Impatiently ) waiting in Houston, Texas. I have a sick teenager on the sofa watching me and she just asked ‘Is this what you do all day? Trawl the news and Mudflats?!” Well……a chunk of the day…..
Been volunteering all morning at our local Planned Parenthood clinic, they are having 40 days of protestors right outside – these people are weird. I walked past and a middle aged man says to me ’sham, shame, shame on you” Thought that was pretty lame, all that standing around waiting for hours and that was his best line?!
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater (10:32:40) :So,.. has the little woman been seen anywhere in public today? Or she hiding under her bed?
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I heard she is off today. Go figure
So according to ADN, some McCain volunteers showed up at the meeting today dressed as clowns, how appropriate. The McSame campaign has been acting like the circus of late.
Denise-ALL VOTERs have to change the way they pick their candidate. G W Bush proved to us that a few politicians in the right place can destroy us. I have always investigated the candidates When I walk into the polls I bypass all of the workers handing out literature; my mind is made up. I stated in another thread that a wise politician once told me, “Never listen to anything a politician says. Look who his advisers and backers are.” In one of my first posts in this blog I stated that I am the same age as John McCain. I will freely admit that I am 3/4 of the man I once was. The Social Security actuarial tables state that a 72 YO man has a 1 in 3 chance of dying in the next 8 years. That same 72 YO man has a 15% chance of dying in the next 4 years. I definitely don’t want Sarah Palin as my President.
http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/
Off topic, sorry …
Have any of you called voters on behalf of Obama from your house?
http://my.barackobama.com/modules/votercontact/login_signup.php
I was just wondering if your phone number is exposed if you do this? Or do they have a way to hide it?
Personally, I think Obama has the sense and smarts to tackle it smarter and be more proactive and McCain will just make all of us go that much more broke and protect those with big pocket books!
The number one reason Obama gets my vote is his worldwide influence. Whether these conservative isolationists want to admit it or not we are all in this together. Our economies are intricately tied as well as our national securities, I definitely can’t see Palin making heads or tails of things, and have serious doubts about McCain’s ability to tie his own shoelaces lately.
Marilyn:
I’m very close to you in Bethlehem area. So glad to hear people were bussed in for that appalling rally. I’ve been trying not to look at my McCain supporting neighbors with suspicion.
Fun Cartoon Slide Show from “Across the Pond.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/template/2.0-0/element/pictureGalleryPopup.jsp?id=3190981&&offset=0&§ionName=NewsUSElections
Hey let me join all of you by being a wreck in Juneau as well. Coffee isn’t helping, where’s my glass of red wine? Do I really have to wait til 5pm? My thought for this morning to ALL of you who have been involved in this forum – take a moment to donate to AKMuckraker who states:
“I’ve put down deep roots here, and consider Alaska my home in every sense. I see it as a place of tremendous potential for business, for energy, for innovative thinking, and for citizen activists to be able to make a tangible difference in their local and state government.”
This site has been a forum for truth, individuality, and outstanding information presented so quickly it makes my heart jump. Please help support this author’s work, even if it’s just a few dollars. This author does what many of us only dream of, so let’s support her amazing and heartfelt efforts to keep us informed and especially, to provide a place to discuss politics w/o all the dreary and nasty Palin cheerleaders.
I just read something on CBSnews.com that the report will be released. OBVIOUSLY, the reporter forgot to mention that it has to be CLEARED to be open to the public.
How can these lawmakers possibly keep this report under wraps at this point?
Sure, you can seal it. But already the NY Times has a scathing report front page.
Maybe this is old news to everybody, but I was stunned to read that Todd Palin sat there with a wad of personnel files on the table and talked to Monegan face to face in the governor’s office. Isn’t this some sort of privacy crime? Or whatever it is called?
I’m tired today, so I can’t think straight.
All these racist BS going on in the McCain camp has Mama tired today!
Palin be damned.
cmac…can’t drive today. eye problems.
but i will be in sm on both monday and tuesday close to st john’s.
I missed something–what’s the idea behind the clown suits?
Hmm.. a vaca day only 25 days til the election? ? Is she already worn out??
Somehow, i have a feeling she already knows what we’re gonna hear and she’s on her way home to deal with it and McGrumpy already has his new VP waiting to be introduced.
If your worried they will somehow try to pin the subprime crap on Obama.
Check this out:
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2008/10/bush-boom-revisited.html
fawn: hope you feel better! I’m tied up all next week.
Any other Canadians on here waiting for this to break? We need to stick together with our brothers and sisters to the north.
Here in Alaska; at least I don’t have a timezone issue with the Leg Council…
@Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
I would have to agree with Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (09:36:10) :
“How’s your “dead wolf” impression?”
But if you’re settled on the First Dud, remember to carry around a rag doll like you don’t care if you’re holding it correctly. Or find some 7 year old girl to drag around with you and make her carry it.
@PJ
They were dressed as kangaroos and welcomed the legislators to the Kangaroo Court.
NBC reporting that if it is made public, it’s 800 pages with 1,000 articles of evidence and it will be published for media to read on the web. I suppose for everyone to read on the web. Wouldn’t that be grand?
Michele (10:31:44) :
I rather like Mudflap!
Another Troopergate report on msnbc.. they’re saying it will be released some time today but they don’t know when.. or if it ill even be made public.!
Michele (10:31:44) :
I feel like I’ve become a very negative person since the Palin (WTF?) nomination, so in an effort to be a kinder, more positive citizen I’m going off topic for a minute here and confessing that I sort of like Bristol, Willow and Piper for girls names. Think they’re kind of cute. Track and Trig, meh, not so much…
My Palin Baby Name Generator name is Sanka Mudflap
I have deep rooted issues regarding names. We named our daughter Kylie as a compromise, I just wanted to call her Kye. I’m still not sure I like Kylie :X The name, love the kid. So I certainly can go around judging anyone else’s choices. I think they’re kinda cute too, you betcha.
That should say can’t judge other people’s choices.
Any idea when the report will be released?
This race is getting so sicking and scary. Someone said earlier they read a post from John Kerry. Anyone have a link to it? It was about McCain and Palin should be disqualified from the race for inciting violence.
http://ofbyandforthepeople.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/inciting-violence-palin-style-terrorists/
Baron et al–Re Joe McCain, John’s brother…I’m acquainted with him (he’s also an actor in DC) and, in all fairness, he’s been keeping a VERY low profile throughout this campaign. I don’t know what his relationship with his brother is, but I’m thinkin’ the campaign finally dragged him out of obscurity so they could have all hands on deck. Don’t be too hard on Joe.
He would probably have preferred to stay out of this altogether.
Lurker,
No…the practice of discriminatory lending is bad…going after banks practicing it was good but the argument floating around is that the lawsuit lead to the sub-prime lending morass of NINJA lending (no job, no income, no assets). This is the video out there right now that I believe will be the next attack from McCain since the Ayers thing is pretty much a wash for them and not getting the mileage against Obama that they hoped:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ijN-wJgyZK4
Please don’t shoot me as the messenger…I’m just wanting to be prepared with some good comeback arguments when this stuff hits the MSM.
Did any of you see this dkos diary? I have seen Halcro posts on this blog…but this surprised me….
Blogger Halcro admits to “responsibility” for Troopergate
Any other Canadians on here waiting for this to break?
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Waves arms – me, me! This is way more fun than the Canadian election, lol.
It feels like forever since Palin has been in my life…making my head spin. Fundamentalists scare me and are really the wolves in sheep clothing.
Cincy, it’s like a really bad fart.. once you let it go, you can never take it back..
he did what he did, he’s a grownup and he could have said no.
You pull the trigger and kill someone then claim your brother begged you to do it, you’ll still go to prison..
SC Strike Chipper Hussein, boy do I agree with you on the friendship of Liddy and McCain!
Liddy did more harm to this country than the Weathermen, and their actions were horrid.
Liddy even confessed to be willing to bomb, murder and kidnap to achieve his agenda. And still McCain accepts campaign money from him, and goes on his radio show and tells him how proud he is of Liddy??
But what really takes the cake, is that Liddy suggested to those who were up against the ATF, to shoot the agents in the head, cause they would be wearing protection. This was in the 90’s!
And McCain thinks this is ok????
I really don’t get it.
I guess it okay because Liddy’s crimes were in behalf of the Republican party!
Hi Bella the Bunny Girl, From Halifax here, and happy to see a fellow Canadian hanging in there with the rest of us. Thank you
On ADN dkshoreline wrote on 10/10/2008 08:27:34 AM:
“Maybe we’d find in those emails the genesis of the $31K contract Sarah setup with a Washington, DC public relations consultant just for HER IMAGE to promote NATIONALLY: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27110133/ Got the attention of McCain campaign that way and the VP nomination. She claims ALL the credit for the gas pipeline while the Legislature did all the heavy lifting and she spent all her time courting the hated, dreaded mainstream, elitist media promoting herself . . .”
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/551515.html#Comments_Container
Ava, it was a parody.. not serious..!
Fear not, Mudflattians, there is always the time-honored marvelous procedure known as the LEAK. How could that many legislators not produce one little leak?
For Baron Von Butcher, who needs Halloween costume suggestions (the Baroness is going as Sarah, of course):
There are always the unfortunate animals she likes to shoot: moose, caribou, wolves, former mentors…. Or there’s Todd, Telephone in hand, or there’s the Bridge to Nowhere, or, my favorite would be PUTIN’S UGLY HEAD!!!
BTW, I’m starting a comic featuring Sarah and the Mat Maid Dairy Scandal, which is full of cheesy badness, and nobody’s even begun to enjoy it yet! . I have a picture of Sarah dressed as a Milkmaid to start:
snarkopolitan.blogspot.com
Palins now “not apologising for trying to protect their family”…..kind of like the Sopranos, no?
sorry if this posts twice. lost it the first time. folks have been asking where SP is today…here’s the schedule for today thanks to daily KOS. SP is dropping the puck in Philly tonight. I wish I had seen this sooner. I’m too far from Lakeville, MN to go protest mcsame. any other Minnesotans or Wisconsinites up for it??
hHh
Today’s Candidate Schedule
by BarbinMD
Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 06:30:01 AM PDT
Where will the candidates be today?
Barack Obama
Chillicothe, Ohio
Ross County Courthouse
9:40 am (EDT)
Columbus, Ohio
Genoa Park
Doors open: 11:00 am (EDT)
Joe Biden
Springfield, Missouri
Jordan Valley Park
11:30 am (CDT)
[Michelle Obama and Jill Biden have no public events scheduled]
John McCain
LaCrosse, WI
La Crosse Center South Hll
11:00 am (CDT)
Lakeville, Minnesota
Lakeville South High School
5:00 pm (CDT)
Sarah Palin
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Hockey gaje
7:00 pm (EDT)
ABC says report coming out this afternoon:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6002372&page=1
Dying of anticipation today! I have several windows open at once so I can skim for the breaking news! Not getting much work done today, lol. I am still very optimistic that even if this report is sealed or somehow corrupted by the masters of corruption, the GOP, they are still going down in flames. Both SWWBN’s and her evil troll sidekick’s approval ratings are plummeting among members of their own party
Even the nasty Repugnants can’t stand them, that says a lot!
Hey all, waiting anxiously….:) There is a vid out showing SP saying she fired Monegan b/c he wasn’t doing his job (the alcohol job) up to her standard or something, I will have to find it…Hey, my b-day is 10/30 GMT 10/31 so I am expert on all things Halloween
How ’bout people going as skeletons, with signs,
You betcha!
“I’m the one that jumped out Sarah Palins closest” “Troopergate” “Mat. Dairy”
“unsecured email account” etc!
Baron Von Butcher (10:16:54) :
Ok folks I have decided. My Halloween costume will be The First Dude! I think I can manage some facial hair by that time.
You have to carry a baby sling with a doll in it ! Maybe even a little girl doll holding onto one of your legs and a T-shirt that says “It’s 2008, do you know where your teens are?”
hmm.. A CNN financial reporter.. Poppy Harlow.. what a cute name..
Ok, so she’s sorta cute.. never mind.
sheesh
go check this out:
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2008/10/bush-boom-revisited.html
Sample
In case you can’t read that, the title is “The Bush Boom: How a Misunderestimated President Fixed a Broken Economy.” You can buy it at Amazon for only $5.77 (a steal!) The book’s author is Jerry Bowyer, who presciently wrote the following in June of 2007:
. . . so first there’s Lehman bros income up, Goldman did okay and now we see that Morgan’s doing well. All of these guys were fingered as threatened by the ’sub-prime-contagion-apocalyptic melt-down. Well it looks like not so much. Sure, they got hit a little in the fixed income divisions but what the press missed is the tremendous benefit of deregulation.
Hi guys,
It’s 8:50 PM in Norway. I am sitting here looking at my monitor. Waiting, waiting. It’s great to read all the comments.
Heidi Hanson
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin, Hahahahahahaha thats agood one
Rigi:
Piper and Willow are character names in tv shows about withces and witchcraft and vampires and such…hhhmmmmmm
HI SC Strike Chipper Hussein…I’m in Columbia also. I guess we’re blue dots in a red state….lol.
GaaaK! I’m on pins and needles!! Almost noon here… Will they break for lunch?
Oh yeah,
Hi mom, I know you’re reading this site too.
:^)
@ cmac and fawnskin
One or both of you should create an additional new temporary email address with whatever email client you use. Post it here. Once you know you are really emailing with each other, the one (or both) that created the temp address can simply delete the temp address. You can both confirm it’s cmac and fawnskin by noting landmarks in your area, etc.
I think the report is coming out 2 PM Alaska time, right? (3 PM Pacific, 6 Eastern, 11 (?) UK)
Waiting in LA, listening to Randy Newman’s Harps and Angels, thinking about how Obama is Atticus Finch and Palin seems to be coming more and more like Bob Ewell. I admit, I am as impatient as Scout and I’d like to bloody all of their lying noses!
Thanks AKM for giving us a place to meet, vent and share.
sheesh
I wouldn’t shoot ya. Information is a good thing.
@Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (09:22:06) :
“Can you peel potatoes at your computer? Can’t leave long enough to get dinner started!”
Nope, tried that, it doesn’t work. Keyboard gets all starchy! I have grudgingly just fed my family. Haven’t time to read through all the comments since I began dinner preparations, so I just want to know if there is any news on Troopergate.
hey, thanks redwood man.
are you up for that cmac?
Hi Heidi Hanson , your 5 hours ahead of me. Great to have you. A lot of us Canadians are waiting for this to break also. Been waiting for thsi for a long time. Hope it comes soon.
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin
that’s really mean to feed that rotten flesh to the wolves..
it feels all very cloak-and -dagger and fun and stuff.
John* The Pitbull Wrangler* (10:45:01) :
Hi Bella the Bunny Girl, From Halifax here, and happy to see a fellow Canadian hanging in there with the rest of us. Thank you
john, i may not be technically canadian but i’m an adopted haligonian from my uni days. so let me say hi. i have been thinking about the fax lately…
i will join my fellow mudflatters and drum my fingers also. are the legislators done yet?
The moose ideas made me remember about a Woody Allen standup bit about going to a costume party accompanied by a real moose.
PROTEST SARAH PALIN RALLY. Saturday, October 11, 10:00 a.m. Downtown Juneau at the State Capitol.
I am in Columbus Ohio and gave up going to see Obama for the second time to be here to wait for this report to come out and say
SHE IS GUILTY and should be impeached
Go Alaska
@ Baron von Butcher–HALLOWEEN COSTUME:
What about Bill Clinton? Hopefully no one would be offended. They would make a ‘fun’ couple and you and your wife would have lots of material for ‘role-playing’
On something positive, how about we start the list of reasons we like/love Obama [From personal reasoning to Policy reasons]..Everybody can give 1 most important point that you like about him as Persident of USA and reason why he excels that point
I will start with mine
1) Timetable to withdraw troops of Iraq
Apart from the reason on 10 billion a month going down the drain, This is the war I think we didnt need. It has to end – responsibily ofcourse.
How about you guys??
On a side note, literally, has anyone noticed the massive “blooms” on the Mudflats map! How exciting!!!
sosad said “According to McCain/Palin all the parents sons and daughters this man has been in contact with are terrorists . All the faculty at the school are terrorists ,,all the family of all the faculty would be associates of terrorists .”
What does that say about Walter Annenberg??!!
The other question is, now that they have stirred up all this racist, terrorist, not-like-us crap, what happens when Palin has to step aside (after this report is released) and McCain decides to replace her with Lieberman! How will he explain the Jew on the ticket?
And all of you Floridians (my home and voting state) – how does Florida look for Obama?
fawnskin: sure thing!
almost time for Andrew’s radio show :Troopergate
http://www.650keni.com
Moderator: I didn’t write the comment above attributed to me, could you delete it? My apologies, I need to learn to log out. Thanks!
IF this helps.. on ADN.com
Update: 10:45 a.m.: Sen. Lyda Green just stepped outside and asked if reporters if they realized the closed proceedings could take hours. She indicated they were just a little bit into the report.
Marty Hussein That One Voter Idiot Hater (10:53:18) :
caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin
that’s really mean to feed that rotten flesh to the wolves..
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” ‘R’ is for Ruth who was trampled by bulls. ‘S’ is for Sarah, devoured by wolves.”
It’s right there in the poem!
Two things I heard on the news today:
The votes are there to release the report.
If the votes were not there to release the report, Governor Palin would not have released her own “I’m Innocent” report last night.
Makes sense to me.
So, we all wait.
fixthebroken (10:35:50) said:
Off topic, sorry …
Have any of you called voters on behalf of Obama from your house?
http://my.barackobama.com/modules/votercontact/login_signup.php
I was just wondering if your phone number is exposed if you do this? Or do they have a way to hide it?
___________________________________
I’ve been calling swing states from my home. Not sure if my number shows up. No one has called me back, even those who said they wouldn’t vote for my guy, as they put it.
If you’re concerned about your name and number appearing, call your phone company and see how to block caller ID. I think if you dial *66 before making a call, you’re blocked.
Marty–You’re right. He can’t take it back, but he didn’t kill anyone. He just said something stupid in a feeble attempt to make a joke. You probably won’t hear from him again, nor will you see him on the public stage.
Speaking of family ties, why is nobody talking about Todd the secessionist and Sarah’s appearances at their kabal?
cincykid aka Puffin Shrapnel Palin
@Anoise (10:50:17) :
Rigi:
Piper and Willow are character names in tv shows about withces and witchcraft and vampires and such…hhhmmmmmm
Actually, the girls were all named for Alaskan things–Bristol for Bristol Bay where the Palins fish, Willow for a town near Wasilla and/or the state bird (willow ptarmigan), and Piper for the type of plane the Palins own (and her middle name is Indy, for one of the types of Polaris snowmachines that the First Dud rides!).
Several HOURS?
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2008/10/10/local_news/doc48ef8d13249c8941381220.txt
no more –
maybe some networks should be notified!?
I was disappointed when the last rally took place and no major network coverage at all! I think it was because they were expecting so few, and ended up with over 1200 people!?!! woo-hoo!!!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/rally.asp
Regi, I’ve been avoiding commenting on the flute thing BUT … we’re waiting around with nothing else to do apparently, so I think I’ll chime in.
You wrote “How “Joe Sixpack” to be shrewd enough to almost win Miss Alaska. I think it was that awful flute performance that did her in. ”
I had a year of flute lessons when I was … eleven or maybe twelve. It was my third instrument (piano first, saxophone second). I am the same age as miss Sarah and she was about the same age I was when we had “10 years of experience”. If I was playing a song “arranged by my favorite performer, James Galway” I would have actually LEARNED THE WHOLE ARRANGEMENT rather than just the beginning bit (which wasn’t bad).
As a performer I appreciate it that, bless her heart, she continued on, and she did manage to figure out where she was near the end, but the middle bit was the musical equivalent of what we hear her spew out her mouth when she gets asked a question she has no idea about. She wings it. Hey, winging it is a useful strategy. But when you are so transparently doing so, it loses it’s impact. Like I haven’t “faked” stuff before! Difference is, with my solid musical training, I actually have something to fall back on, Miss Sarah didn’t prepare enough for her flute performance, and didn’t have the training to “wing it”. And that’s exactly where she is today – she’s being put out in a performance arena that is out of her league (think rejected American Idol wannabe trying to play Carnegie Hall – the one in New York, not in Scotland
).
Also, people now actually pay me to play the flute, and yet I still do not dare to call myself (or let anyone else that I know of call me) a “flautist”. That is pretty elite, I can tell you.
Again, it’s not her ability or lack thereof, but her apparent inability to admit what she does not know that troubles me.
Hiya John* The Pitbull Wrangler and bunny girl
Canadian / US duel checking in from Fredericton.
Nothing happened yet?
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Oops! Meant “cabal” not “kabal”. I’m so antsy, I’m making typos! Sorry.
Thanks DeMo!
2) Health Care is a RIGHT!
still hanging out in Oregon… waiting.. but Marty the Pug really wants a walk… hmmmm refresh..walk the dog… refresh.. walk the dog…. tough decision
NEWS FLASH: It has been confirmed by a reliable source that Sen John McCain
has poopie pants! Also the source confirmed that Gov Sarah Palin has cooties!
kas (from Oregon) (11:00:23) :
2) Health Care is a RIGHT!
still hanging out in Oregon… waiting.. but Marty the Pug really wants a walk… hmmmm refresh..walk the dog… refresh.. walk the dog…. tough decision
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Walk, refresh the dog.
Lurker,
Thanks for the link. There is no question that deregulation went a long way to line the pockets of the the big execs. I think there’s plenty of blame to go around, dem/repub as well as ‘joe six-pack’ in adding to this financial mess.
BTW, Barack is the ONLY candidate to my knowledge who has come out and stated they we as individuals need to take responsibilty in how we live our lives and how that translates to raising our children to be responsible adults.
I think we need to be prepared for the next wave of attacks which will likely focus on dem responsibilty for the meltdown and fine tune that attack to Obama
@kas
Walk the dog, it could be a while yet!
Hi Barb from Illinois,
Yesterday, I watched in horror the uncut version of the Ohio and Pennyslvania videos of the hatemongers. I cried. Then I prayed for a very long time. Now as I watched your video, I find myself crying again. It’s a beautiful montage. I will continue to pray everday for Sen. Obama’s safety.
Terpsichore..
I agree totally with your post.. But the problem is simple.. if she admitted she didn’t know an answer, she’d not have anything to say. She clearly loves hearing herself.
Lawsuit over Palin’s e-mails gets under way today
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/551515.html\
Anyone hear anything? The meting was supposed to be at 10AM.
Hello from NC – the other side of the states. I have been checking here since 7:20 am {DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!}. I to am drumming my fingers.
Mart
On something positive, how about we start the list of reasons we like/love Obama [From personal reasoning to Policy reasons]..Everybody can give 1 most important point that you like about him as Persident of USA and reason why he excels that point
I will start with mine
1) Timetable to withdraw troops from Iraq
Apart from the reason on 10 billion a month going down the drain, This is the war I think we didnt need. It has to end – responsibily ofcourse.
@kas (from Oregon) (11:00:23) :
2) Health Care is a RIGHT
Anybody else?
gak.. tucker bounds, aka mcgrumpy drone is on msnbc.. kick
John* The Pitbull Wrangler*
Toronto Here!!
As only having CNN — it’s the pits for a lot of real balanced news.
Reading above about Todd possibly stumping — That should take 37 seconds. Watched his interview with Greta van S. on youtube vid. Answers weren’t much more than Yea, uh-huh, yea, no. But have to say Greta doesn’t come across as brilliant either.
@ Jane. Organizers are trying to get the word out and have contacted the media. Hopefully this will be a big rally. If you know any one that might be interested…pass it on. Thanks.
What do I like about Obama?
That he has stated that health care is a “right” in America
That he opposed the Iraq war right from the start
That he only has 1 house and 1 wife
That he acquired his wealth by virtue of his own hard work
That he is fighting back, but in a controlled manner (unlike his opponent)
while we wait: here’s some well-timed “disgust” with negative ads in time of economic crisis (pulling his own) voiced by Norm Coleman in Minnesota. No one ever said Coleman wasn’t clever. (Franken just pulled a few points ahead… he’s got to do something! McCain should have thought of that!)
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1528771.aspx
hHh
Well, in the two hours since I last posted, I drove a bit to get a few more Obama signs to put up, put those up, went to the grocery store, got me a non-starbucks cup of coffee, drove a bit, got home, walked the dawg, petted the kitty (yeah, named sauerkraut) cleaned the lawn mower, shot some sling at pesky squirrels, got that fat old toad (no, not john mccain) out of the window well again, and read a chapter out of Marannis’ “Rome 1960″ book.
So… it’s 3:05ish here on the east coast. They still talking about it, eh?
Guess I’ll go mow the lawn.
Shoulda not takin’ the day off. …
Does anyone know how to listen to Andrew’s show? Its supposed to be streaming on the internet? Help!
Greta vonS is a brilliant mind but she sold her soul to faux news.
Shameful and disgraceful.
I liked her better before she faux gave her the money to fix her saggy face.
Injuneau- I’m glad Palin’s naming methods weren’t popular when I was being named. We had an International Harvester tractor on our farm. Instead of Bobg my nic would be internationalharverstertractorG
http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/
Norah Odonnell is reaming the idiot mcgrumpy lemming a new butthole.. ! tucker, you are so pathetic..
sweet..
sheesh
I agree and I predict that if Obama is elected that the stock markets
will rebound because for one the market is more emotion driven and
I think everyone would agree that he would calm the uncertainly. (sp)IMHO
For what it’s worth, I sent e-mails to every member of the Legislative Council, demanding that they release the report to the public. I got 2 replys from Senators Lyda Green (R) and Kim Elton (D), both of whom were committed to releasing the report.
Does anyone know if they need a simple majority or 2/3 majority to release it?
Frsh.. i also wrote.. got the same email you did probably from Green.. i didn’t get any others, so you did better than me..
but the rumor is they have enough votes to release the findings..
hundreds of pages.. it doesn’t look good for the baracuda.. she’s cowering in a fetal position, drooling.. pretty much knows her 15 minutes is about expired..
when will Santa get here?
We need to ask McCain what his real relationship is with Raffaello Follieri who is now in prison. McCain and Rick Davis both.
McCain is a RAT.
@ lovethecountry AKA Rust Mustang ‘THAT ONE HUSSEIN’ (10:55:00) :
…how about we start the list of reasons we like/love Obama [1 most important point that you like about him as President of USA and reason why he excels that point]
1) Timetable to withdraw troops of Iraq
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2) He has been incredibly stable and reassuring in the face of the economic catastrophe, with the same steady sureness of his entire campaign. Unflappable. Presidential.
MJC, I wish I could take credit for the video, but I just found the link. But I thought we could all use a little lift up!
Waiting with you in Chicago… Just finished my 3rd cup of coffee, was trying to read the comments on my cell earlier (as I have many times) I can never make it to the 300th comment… fingers crossed and a lil shaky. Come on guys…
Shikago aka; Gary Hussein Shikago
Andrew’s radio show
http://www.650keni.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=AndrewHalcro.xml
Slightly off the subject but it’s good reading. Hope that it’s not too lengthly for you.
Senator John McCain’s Record on Troop and Veterans’ Issues
Voting Against Veterans
• Veterans Groups Give McCain Failing Grades. In its most recent legislative ratings, the non-partisan Disabled American Veterans gave Sen. McCain a 20 percent rating for his voting record on veterans’ issues. Similarly, the non-partisan Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a “D” grade for his poor voting record on veterans’ issues, including McCain’s votes against additional body armor for troops in combat and additional funding for PTSD and TBI screening and treatment.
• McCain Voted Against Increased Funding for Veterans’ Health Care. Although McCain told voters at a campaign rally that improving veterans’ health care was his top domestic priority, he voted against increasing funding for veterans’ health care in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. (Greenville News, 12/12/2007; S.Amdt. 2745 to S.C.R. 95, Vote 40, 3/10/04; Senate S.C.R. 18, Vote 55, 3/16/05; S.Amdt. 3007 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 41, 3/14/06; H.R. 1591, Vote 126, 3/29/07)
• McCain Voted At Least 28 Times Against Veterans’ Benefits, Including Healthcare. Since arriving in the U.S. Senate in 1987, McCain has voted at least 28 times against ensuring important benefits for America’s veterans, including providing adequate healthcare. (2006 Senate Vote #7, 41, 63, 67, 98, 222; 2005 Senate Votes #55, 89, 90, 251, 343; 2004 Senate Votes #40, 48, 145; 2003 Senate Votes #74, 81, 83; 1999 Senate Vote #328; 1998 Senate Vote #175; 1997 Senate Vote #168; 1996 Senate Votes #115, 275; 1995 Senate Votes #76, 226, 466; 1994 Senate Vote #306; 1992 Senate Vote #194; 1991 Senate Vote #259)
• McCain Voted Against Providing Automatic Cost-of-Living Adjustments to Veterans. McCain voted against providing automatic annual cost-of-living adjustments for certain veterans’ benefits. (S. 869, Vote 259, 11/20/91)
• McCain Voted to Underfund Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain voted for an appropriations bill that underfunded the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development by $8.9 billion. (H.R. 2099, Vote 470, 9/27/95)
• McCain Voted Against a $13 Billion Increase in Funding for Veterans Programs. McCain voted against an amendment to increase spending on veterans programs by $13 billion. (S.C.R. 57, Vote 115, 5/16/96)
• McCain Voted Against $44.3 Billion for Veterans Programs. McCain was one of five senators to vote against a bill providing $44.3 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs, plus funding for other federal agencies. (H.R. 2684, Vote 328, 10/15/99)
• McCain Voted Against $47 Billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain was one of eight senators to vote against a bill that provided $47 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs. (H.R. 4635, Vote 272, 10/12/00)
• McCain Voted Against $51 Billion in Veterans Funding. McCain was one of five senators to vote against the bill and seven to vote against the conference report that provided $51.1 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs, as well as funding for the federal housing, environmental and emergency management agencies and NASA. (H.R. 2620, Vote 334, 11/8/01; Vote 269, 8/2/01)
• McCain Voted Against $122.7 Billion for Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain voted against an appropriations bill that included $122.7 billion in fiscal 2004 for the Department of Veterans Affairs, Housing and Urban Development and other related agencies. (H.R. 2861, Vote 449, 11/12/03)
• McCain Opposed $500 Million for Counseling Services for Veterans with Mental Disorders. McCain voted against an amendment to appropriate $500 million annually from 2006-2010 for counseling, mental health and rehabilitation services for veterans diagnosed with mental illness, posttraumatic stress disorder or substance abuse. (S. 2020, S.Amdt. 2634, Vote 343, 11/17/05)
• McCain opposed an Assured Funding Stream for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain opposed providing an assured funding stream for veterans’ health care, taking into account annual changes in veterans’ population and inflation. (S.Amdt. 3141 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 63, 3/16/06)
• McCain Voted Against Adding More Than $400 Million for Veterans’ Care. McCain was one of 13 Republicans to vote against providing an additional $430 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. (S.Amdt. 3642 to H.R. 4939, Vote 98, 4/26/06)
• McCain Supported Outsourcing VA Jobs. McCain opposed an amendment that would have prevented the Department of Veterans Affairs from outsourcing jobs, many held by blue-collar veterans, without first giving the workers a chance to compete. (S.Amdt. 2673 to H.R. 2642, Vote 315, 9/6/07)
• McCain Opposed the 21st Century GI Bill Because It Was Too Generous. McCain did not vote on the GI Bill that will provide better educational opportunities to veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, paying full tuition at in-state schools and living expenses for those who have served at least three years since the 9/11 attacks. McCain said he opposes the bill because he thinks the generous benefits would “encourage more people to leave the military.” (S.Amdt. 4803 to H.R. 2642, Vote 137, 5/22/08; Chattanooga Times Free Press, 6/2/08; Boston Globe, 5/23/08; ABCNews.com, 5/26/08)
• Disabled American Veterans Legislative Director Said That McCain’s Proposal Would Increase Costs For Veterans Because His Plan Relies On Private Hospitals Which Are More Expensive and Which Could Also Lead To Further Rationing Of Care. “To help veterans who live far from VA hospitals or need specialized care the VA can’t provide, McCain proposed giving low-income veterans and those who incurred injury during their service a card they could use at private hospitals. The proposal is not an attempt to privatize the VA, as critics have alleged, but rather, an effort to improve care and access to it, he said. Joe Violanti, legislative director of the Disabled American Veterans, a nonpartisan organization, said the proposal would increase costs because private hospitals are more expensive. The increased cost could lead to further rationing of care, he said.” (Las Vegas Sun, 8/10/08)
Lack of Support for the Troops
• McCain co-sponsored the Use of Force Authorization. McCain supported the bill that gave President George W. Bush the green light–and a blank check–for going to war with Iraq. (SJ Res 46, 10/3/02)
• McCain Opposed Increasing Spending on TRICARE and Giving Greater Access to National Guard and Reservists. Although his campaign website devotes a large section to veterans issues, including expanding benefits for reservists and members of the National Guard, McCain voted against increasing spending on the TRICARE program by $20.3 billion over 10 years to give members of the National Guard and Reserves and their families greater access to the health care program. The increase would be offset by a reduction in tax cuts for the wealthy. (S.Amdt. 324 to S.C.R. 23, Vote 81, 3/25/03)
• McCain voted against holding Bush accountable for his actions in the war. McCain opposed the creation of an independent commission to investigate the development and use of intelligence leading up to the war in Iraq. (S.Amdt. 1275 to H.R. 2658, Vote 284, 7/16/03)
• McCain voted Against Establishing a $1 Billion Trust Fund for Military Health Facilities. McCain voted against establishing a $1 billion trust fund to improve military health facilities by refusing to repeal tax cuts for those making more than $1 million a year. (S.Amdt. 2735 to S.Amdt. 2707 to H.R. 4297, Vote 7, 2/2/06)
• Senator McCain opposed efforts to end the overextension of the military–a policy that is having a devastating impact on our troops. McCain voted against requiring mandatory minimum downtime between tours of duty for troops serving in Iraq. (S.Amdt.. 2909 to S.Amdt. 2011 to HR 1585, Vote 341, 9/19/07; S.Amdt. 2012 to S.Amdt. 2011 to HR 1585, Vote 241, 7/11/07)
• McCain announced his willingness to keep U.S. troops in Iraq for decades–a statement sure to inflame Iraqis and endanger American troops. McCain: “Make it a hundred” years in Iraq and “that would be fine with me.” (Derry, New Hampshire Town Hall meeting, 1/3/08)
• McCain voted against a ban on waterboarding–a form of torture–in a move that could eventually endanger American troops. According to ThinkProgress, “the Senate brought the Intelligence Authorization Bill to the floor, which contained a provision from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) establishing one interrogation standard across the government. The bill requires the intelligence community to abide by the same standards as articulated in the Army Field Manual and bans waterboarding.” McCain voted against the bill. (H.R. 2082, Vote 22, 2/13/08)
• McCain Also Supported Outsourcing at Walter Reed. McCain opposed an amendment to prevent the outsourcing of 350 federal employee jobs at Walter Reed Army Medical Center–outsourcing that contributed to the scandalous treatment of veterans at Walter Reed that McCain called a “disgrace.” (S.Amdt. 4895 to H.R. 5631, Vote 234, 9/6/06; Speech to VFW in Kansas City, Mo., 4/4/08)
• Senator McCain has consistently opposed any plan to withdraw troops from Iraq–a policy that has directly weakened American efforts in Afghanistan. Senator McCain repeatedly voted against a timetable for withdrawing troops from Iraq. (S.Amdt. 3876 to S.Amdt. 3874 to H.R. 2764, Vote #438, 12/18/07; S.Amdt. 3875 to S.Amdt. 3874 to H.R. 2764, Vote #437, 12/18/07; S.Amdt.3164 to H.R. 3222, Vote #362, 10/3/07; S.Amdt. 2898 to S. Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585, Vote #346, 9/21/07; S. Amdt. 2924 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R.1585, Vote #345, 9/21/07; S.Amdt.2 087 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585, Vote #252, 7/18/07; S.Amdt. 643 to H.R. 1591, Vote #116, 3/27/07; S.Amdt. 4320 to S. 2766, Vote #182, 6/22/06; S.Amdt. 4442 to S. 2766, Vote #181, 6/22/06; S.Amdt. 2519 to S.1042, Vote #322, 11/15/05)
• McCain said it’s “not too important” when U.S. troops leave Iraq. This exchange occurred on NBC’s Today Show with Matt Lauer:
LAUER: If it’s working, senator, do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq?
McCAIN: No, but that’s not too important.
(6/11/08)
Cheerleading for War with Iraq–While Afghanistan was Unfinished
• McCain suggested that the war in Iraq could be won with a “smaller” force. “But the fact is I think we could go in with much smaller numbers than we had to do in the past. But I don’t believe it’s going to be nearly the size and scope that it was in 1991.” (CBS News, Face the Nation, 9/15/02)
• McCain said winning the war would be “easy.” “I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” (CNN, 9/24/02)
• McCain also said the actual fighting in Iraq would be easy. “We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” (CNN, 9/29/02)
• Continuing his pattern, McCain also said on MSNBC that we would win the war in Iraq “easily.” “But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” (MSNBC, 1/22/03)
• McCain argued Saddam was “a threat of the first order.” Senator McCain said that a policy of containing Iraq to blunt its weapons of mass destruction program is “unsustainable, ineffective, unworkable and dangerous.” McCain: “I believe Iraq is a threat of the first order, and only a change of regime will make Iraq a state that does not threaten us and others, and where liberated people assume the rights and responsibilities of freedom.” (Speech to the Center for Strategic & International Studies, 2/13/03)
• McCain echoed Bush and Cheney’s rationale for going to war. McCain: “We’re going to win this victory. Tragically, we will lose American lives. But it will be brief. We’re going to find massive evidence of weapons of mass destruction . . . It’s going to send the message throughout the Middle East that democracy can take hold in the Middle East.” (Fox News, Hannity & Colmes, 2/21/03)
• “But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” (NBC, 3/20/03)
• March 2003: “I believe that this conflict is still going to be relatively short.” (NBC, Meet the Press, 3/30/03)
• McCain echoed Bush and Cheney’s talking points that the U.S. would only be in Iraq for a short time. McCain: “It’s clear that the end is very much in sight . . . It won’t be long . . . it’ll be a fairly short period of time.” (ABC, 4/9/03)
Staunch Defense of the Iraq Invasion
• McCain maintained that the war was a good idea and that George W. Bush deserved “admiration.” At the 2004 Republican National Convention, McCain, focusing on the war in Iraq, said that while weapons of mass destruction were not found, Saddam once had them and “he would have acquired them again.” McCain said the mission in Iraq “gave hope to people long oppressed” and it was “necessary, achievable and noble.” McCain: “For his determination to undertake it, and for his unflagging resolve to see it through to a just end, President Bush deserves not only our support, but our admiration.” (Speech, Republican National Convention, 8/31/04)
• Senator McCain: “The war, the invasion was not a mistake. (Meet the Press, 1/6/08)
• McCain said the war in Iraq was “worth” it. Asked if the war was a good idea worth the price in blood and treasure, McCain: “It was worth getting rid of Saddam Hussein. He had used weapons of mass destruction, and it’s clear that he was hell-bent on acquiring them.” (Republican Debate, 1/24/08)
Dangerous Lack of Foreign Policy Knowledge
• When questioned about Osama bin Laden after the 1998 U.S. missile strikes in Afghanistan, McCain surmised that the terrorist leader wasn’t as “bad” as “depicted.” “You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before.” (Interview with Mother Jones magazine, 11/1998)
• McCain was unaware of previous Sunni-Shia violence before the Iraq War. “There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shias. So I think they can probably get along.” (MSNBC, Hardball, 4/23/03)
• McCain said our military could just “muddle through” in Afghanistan. While giving a speech, McCain was asked about Afghanistan and replied, “I am concerned about it, but I’m not as concerned as I am about Iraq today, obviously, or I’d be talking about Afghanistan. But I believe that if Karzai can make the progress that he is making, that in the long term, we may muddle through in Afghanistan.” (Speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, 11/5/03)
• McCain stated that Sunni al Qaeda was “supported” by the Shia Iranians. (2/2008)
• McCain again confused Sunni Muslim al Qaeda operatives with Shi’a Muslim insurgents. The Washington Post reported of McCain: “He said several times that Iran, a predominately Shiite country, was supplying the mostly Sunni militant group, al-Qaeda. In fact, officials have said they believe Iran is helping Shiite extremists in Iraq.
“Speaking to reporters in Amman, the Jordanian capital, McCain said he and two Senate colleagues traveling with him continue to be concerned about Iranian operatives ‘taking al-Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back.’
“Pressed to elaborate, McCain said it was ‘common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that’s well known. And it’s unfortunate.’” (Press conference, Amman, Jordan, 3/18/2008)
• Yet again, McCain demonstrated that he didn’t know whether al Qaeda was a Sunni or Shiite organization. While questioning General David Petraeus during a Senate hearing, the following exchange occurred:
MCCAIN: Do you still view al Qaeda in Iraq as a major threat?
PETRAEUS: It is still a major threat, though it is certainly not as major a threat as it was say 15 months ago.
MCCAIN: Certainly not an obscure sect of the Shi’ites overall?
PETREAUS: No.
MCCAIN: Or Sunnis or anybody else. (Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing, 4/8/08)
• McCain incorrectly thought General David Petraeus was in charge of Afghanistan. The Army Times reported: “Speaking Monday at the annual meeting of the Associated Press, McCain was asked whether he, if elected, would shift combat troops from Iraq to Afghanistan to intensify the search for al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.
‘I would not do that unless Gen. [David] Petraeus said that he felt that the situation called for that,’ McCain said, referring to the top U.S. commander in Iraq.
“Petraeus, however, made clear last week that he has nothing to do with the decision. Testifying last week before four congressional committees, including the Senate Armed Services Committee on which McCain is the ranking Republican, Petraeus said the decision about whether troops could be shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan was not his responsibility because his portfolio is limited to the multi-national force in Iraq.” (Annual meeting of the Associated Press, 4/14/08)
• McCain credited the “surge” for the “Anbar Awakening”–even though the Anbar Awakening preceded the surge by nearly a year. (7/22/08)
• John McCain has also recently demonstrated either serious knowledge gaps in terms of foreign policy, or mounting confusion, when discussing an array of other countries:
Spain: McCain refused to commit to meeting with the president of Spain, a NATO ally, after becoming confused about America’s relationship with Spain, its leader, and, possibly, exactly where Spain is located. (9/17/08)
Czech Republic and Slovakia: McCain referred to the two countries using the name “Czechoslovakia” several times–despite the fact that Czechoslakia split apart and hasn’t existed since 1993. (7/15/08; (7/14/08))
Venezuela: McCain said that Venezuela was a Middle Eastern country. (9/30/08)
I don’t know where to get the streaming one,..anybody know?
Canadian Neighbour and Shove Maggot “That One” Hussein aka the problem child , glad to have you with us also. Halifax, Nova Scotia here and I have a house full waiting for this report Some of us took the day off work just to watch this unfold. Theres 8 of us and we’re having a Goodbye Sarah Palin party. Wish you were all here with us.My girlfriend is a policewoman who just detest Sarah for what she is doing to Americans and their country. Sarah Palin never wants to come to our neck of the woods. She would find it very uncomfortable real quickly.
no more (11:05:46) :
@ Jane. Organizers are trying to get the word out and have contacted the media. Hopefully this will be a big rally. If you know any one that might be interested…pass it on. Thanks.
There will be an independent videographer there, in case any of the media want video (and can pay for it and for getting it transmitted), in case anyone wants to pass along that info. Given that none of the “major” media in AK bother to have anyone here year round, they may very well need to take up this option…
Here’s another fun waiting game: Pick Obam’a’s “dream” cabinet. He’s already said he wants Buffet as Treasury Secretary (although you’d have to be crazy, IMHO to take that role on just now). Just another reason to vote Obama. It’s the best insurance that we would have a bona fide financial savant in that role and not another rightwing criminal (Meg Whitman of eBay, McCain’s first choice). I could see Hillary heading up either the Department of State or the Dept of Health & Human Services. She’d be a shoo-in for HHS and could finally get the changes in insurance she has championed for decades, but the State Dept is a higher prestige post. He could give Colin Powell a chance to redeem himself (I believe he is a dedicated civil servant who got suckered punched by the Bushies and it is somewhat unjust that his reputation was tarnished by their treachery) in the State Dept or the DoD. Wes Clarke would be an excellent DoD secretary, too. At a complete loss for the DoJ and the DoT. Any ideas?
Mudflatters, have not read all posts yet, so apologies if this has already been shared. Remember the black guy at the McCain/Palin rally in Wisc. yesterday imploring McCain to go after Obama? Well, according to TPM, he was a local conservative talk show host. In other words, a plant.
tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/why-does-the-media-claim-that.php
Here is more:
bbsnews.net/
Hi there lovethecountry AKA Rust Mustang ‘THAT ONE HUSSEIN’.
I am also Rust Mustang, but I’m happy to change my name in honor of I think it was Irishgirl’s joke (so long ago now, it seems) about Bristol calling her baby Forty Watt Johnstone. I still laugh about that. Therefore, from now on I will be,
Yours Truly,
Forty Watt Hussein formerly Rust Mustang
According to Faux news….legislators have requested for lunch to be brought in. COuld be another couple of hours.
Someone upthread asked about the Kerry article. Here’s a link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/kerry-mccain-palins-hate_n_133584.html
Irishgirl aka puck mule (10:52:42) :
Yep, you’re right about the potato starch! (As she wipes off the letter “T”)
Wow! a good bye sarah palin party. i’m jealous. just me and the dog and cat here, refreshing, refreshing, refreshing. but maybe now that i know it could be hours(!), i’ll try to get some work done. nah…
btw. please, please, please let’s not post entire articles. AKM has asked us not to for copywrite reasons. please check the FAQ up top.
hHh
I think Michael Bloomberg would be a better Sec. Treasury than Buffet. But he’s evidently trying to get term limits extended in NY so he can be mayor again. Wonder if he’d leave NYC for Obama?
@Bobg (11:08:31) :
Fortunately, I think that’s only a Palin family naming convention. If my family had ascribed to it when I was born, I would have been VW Squareback.
I thought is was a live show….
CNN says only part will be released:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/10/alaska-lawmakers-meet-to-receive-trooper-probe-report/
“A portion of the report is scheduled to be made public after the executive session, said Sen. Kim Elton, the Legislative Council’s chairman.
A second part of the report contains “confidential” information and will be kept under wraps, said Elton, a Democrat who has been under fire from Palin’s supporters.”
And someone had asked for the link to the article about Kerry saying they should be disqualified due to the “hate filled crowds”:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/kerry-mccain-palins-hate_n_133584.html
Why I like Barack Obama……
1.) He’s a nice guy. (this directly from a couple of people who know)
2.) He respects his grandmother, his mother, his wife, and women. (All good men do)
3.) He is a law scholar. (Thank goodness)
4. He’ll make the right desicions to get us out of the war.
5.) He will bring honor back to the Presidency.
still another game while we wait: obama’s 4 supreme court picks.
I’ll start.
1.) Hillary Clinton
Found this on a Blog had to share……LMAO
Troopergate”? Poopergate!!!
Doggone it, folks can’tcha see what the liberal press is tryin’ to do to the most popular governor in the whole wide world? (Yup, the same liberal press who’s been palin’ around with the domestic terrorists and who hate us for our freedom, and don’t even CARE that she’s just like us and all that.)
I mean, come on guys, it wasn’t Sarah, it was Todd – “The First Dude” who got all mavericky and did this stuff behind her back when she was busy shootin’ wolves from helicopters and fightin’ oil companies and stuff, makin’ sure ol’ Putin isn’t raisin’ up his head in her airspace and such. AND tellin’ Congress ” no thanks to that bridge to nowhere” and all the other stuff that’s made her the most popular governor in the world and all.
Don’tcha’ see? It’s not Sarah, she’s just like us! And besides, she’s part of a pair of mavericks that are plannin’ on fixin’ every thing that’s wrong with the world. You betcha’! Remember, she’s just like us!!! Ya’ gotta’ don’t blink on this one! It’s Obama and all HIS domestic terrorist pals from his kindergarten years! They’re the ones! Don’t blink or the secret Muslims will be all over ya’ thicker’n black flies on a three-day-old moose carcass. You betcha!!!
@ no more…I tell you what, if I was anywhere close, I’d BE THERE! But I will pass it on to a few folks I know and especially to a gal who is extremely active in Obama’s campaign and an anti-Palinist…she’s in Colorado but is amazing at spreading the word. Give me more details if you have in case I missed and I’ll send to her.
Good luck!! I think the organizers should inform those at MSNBC and at least YouTube it once it is done…that’s almost better than a major network now-a-days!!!
@ lovethecountry AKA Rust Mustang ‘THAT ONE HUSSEIN’ (10:55:00) :
…how about we start the list of reasons we like/love Obama [1 most important point that you like about him as President of USA and reason why he excels that point]
1) Timetable to withdraw troops of Iraq
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2) He has been incredibly stable and reassuring in the face of the economic catastrophe, with the same steady sureness of his entire campaign. Unflappable. Presidential.
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3) He’s brilliant – he oozes intelligence! I am reading “Audacity of Hope” and it is fun and interesting and informative and shows how much he THINKS, ponders things and how much he really cares.
lovethecountry AKA Rust Mustang ‘THAT ONE HUSSEIN’ (10:55:00) :
…how about we start the list of reasons we like/love Obama [1 most important point that you like about him as President of USA and reason why he excels that point]
The world loves him. He’s for real which is why the reps can’t stand him.
He smokes them on family values and is more of a christian than they
could ever hope to be. (JM)
@ carolingirl — that excerpt, in all seriousness, needs to be passed on to SNL so Tina Fey can do the rendition…all I could do is see her face while I was reading it!!!
I just sent an email to Drudge Report asking if they’re going to let us know when the Palin report is published. I feel that if enough people pester the news groups they will have to play it up after the report is released.
drudge@drudgereport.com
http://my.opera.com/cheapskate/blog/
I support Barack Obama because he is a true citizen. Here is a favorite quote…
“The true test of the American ideal is whether we’re able to recognize our failings and then rise together to meet the challenges of our time. Whether we allow ourselves to be shaped by events and history, or whether we act to shape them. Whether chance of birth or circumstance decides life’s big winners and losers, or whether we build a community where, at the very least, everyone has a chance to work hard, get ahead, and reach their dreams”. Barack Obama
“Trickery and treachery are the practices of fools that have not the wits enought to be honest”. Benjamin Franklin
http://act.credoaction.com/event/events/index.html?id=&action_id=11
Still time to volunteer to be a poll worker!
Michele–love the dream ticket idea!
What about Chuck Hagel in foreign policy somewhere? He’s a republican with sense who’s been loyal from the beginning.
Living here in Berlin gives one ample cause and opportunity to study the rise of the National Socialists [voted into office democratically]. and especially their charismatic leader, Adolf Hitler. [reading German-Jewish author Raphael Seligmann - as in the Atlantic Times].
To me the parallels between Adolf and Sarah are at least sobering, if not -as they are to me – frightening:
- multiple academic failures
- encouraging violent racist behavior “Kill Him”, “Terrorist”…
- underclass PWT social ‘chip-on-the-shoulder’ attitude towards educated, reflective, people
- demonstrably dubious family and personal moral values
- charismatic rabble-rousing style… Hitler’s first assignment for the Army and then the DAP…
- fear of and disrespect for a free press
- banning [then burning] books
- fascination with the para-military gun kultur
- religious beliefs bordering [to be polite] on the fantastic [witch-doctors / Wagnerian Wotan]
McCain’s overdriving need to compensate for a lost war drives him, as did Hitler’s lost WW 1 to the burning anger that leads him to ever more war, as it led Hitler to write Mein Kampf and…
Who is the real John McCain? Is he the man who used to tout himself as a problem-solver, or is he the desperate candidate who lurches from attack to attack?
[of course, then we had 'Mein Kampf' before us, and did not act, now we have the Koran. AWAKE! ]
need I go on?
Be afraid, read this [Germany] country’s history, and be VERY afraid!
Mario (11:12:20) “when will Santa get here?”
In Canada, on Monday it’s our Turkey Day (Thanksgiving). Will that help??
John* The Pitbull Wrangler*,
I’m with you and your GF re SP. I bought a bag of marshmallows to throw at my TV watching her talk as I was afraid of throwing something that would break it!!
On another blog that was commenting SP was a role model for all women — WTH — If she’s our role model, I’m checking in for gender reassignment!!!
@Forty Watt Hussein
Hi there
Whats in the name anyway – I would rather be Brian(As our AKM the great has said before, we all are Brain)…but then it would be too confusing to answer each other…I added ‘That one’ to hussein after the debate knowing what a privilege to be called ‘That one’ and that too, Hussein …
Here’s a little funny!
Post Turtle
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.
The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was. The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a post turtle.’ The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.
‘You know she didn’t get up there by herself, she doesn’t belong up there, she doesn’t know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with.’
@epic in oregon – really? You have a Marty the pug? I have Marty the Boston – guess yours was also named after Marty Feldman for those eyes!
One reason I love Obama is this very blog. It has brought so many people from all over the world together for the one reason. Truth and Justice for Americans. Anyone who can bring that many good people together for a good cause such as this is the right person for the job of President of the United States of America. I love you guys and I feel like one of the family that is America. We are all brothers and sisters in the cause.
Lurker “That one” Hussein Palin (11:00:48) :
NEWS FLASH: It has been confirmed by a reliable source that Sen John McCain
has poopie pants! Also the source confirmed that Gov Sarah Palin has cooties!
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Do we get to do this until the report comes out? Re: McCains poopie pants, that all “Depends”!
Geezee feel like I am in the Military….Hurry up…..Wait….Hurry Up….Wait
You guys are GREAT giving me something to read while I tap my fingers to the bone….lol
Need to tell them poop or get off the pot!!!!!
OK, maybe I’ve read too many novels in my lifetime, and tried to write a couple, too, but I think the real reason Monegan was fired is that he knows something personally damning about the governor. He was just too smart to say it outside of sworn testimony.
When it comes to governors, state troopers know everything.
Just ask anyone at the firm of “Spitzer, Clinton, & McGreevy.”
For the love of Aunt Hazel….
…. what’s the friggin holdup? I’ve been checking back here for 2.5 hours now!!!
Don’t y’all have a reporter over at the place this is supposed to be announced?
Cripes…. is there a minicam over there???
I think it’s interesting that they keep throwing out Obama’s middle name–Hussein. Do they think he chose it? There are alot of us that wish our parents had picked different names for us. Does Sarah think her kids all love their names?
haahaaa Mc Grumpy just said he never lies…..
Here is something to do for a moment… This is a riot, watch for Palin in this ditty…
No more dicks in The White House!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/acting-like-a-dick_b_133610.html
Check out this URL for the latest false gossip on Obama. His brother is not dirt poor living in Kenya!
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/
megacephalus
She scares the crap out of many here, but even the “smart” republicans
are running away now. I think it will be a landslide in Obama’s favor.
From the ADN blog:
Update: 10:45 a.m.: Sen. Lyda Green just stepped outside and asked reporters if they realized the closed proceedings could take hours. She indicated they were just a little bit into the report.
I just got an email from a family friend. It had a picture of a white man on a motorcycle in Florida. His shirt on the back said “Ni@#er please it is the white house”, then had a McCain/Palin sign on his motorcycle.
I am usually careful of motorcycle drivers, but this would have been one time, “hitting” his ass and flying 150 ft in the air. Oops, sorry it was an accident! Officer, his T-Shirt shocked me, and lost my sight for a minute!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/republican-congressman-cr_n_133623.html
Here’s another republican decrying Palin Hate Tactics….
I like Obama because he is the kind of guy that provides random acts of kindness for complete strangers:
http://leishacamden.blogspot.com/2008/10/not-that-it-matters.html
not an expert on names…and the internet probably isn’t an authority, but here’s what I found.
Barack means blessing or blessed
Hussein means good, kind, or handsome.
what’s not to love about those names???
hHh
Did you guys see this sign? It’s likely from one of your rallies… very funny.
via impolitical.blogspot.com
Willie (11:32:56) :
I love that the web site is the Annenberg Political Fact Check.
UpNorth Minnesota—none of them are smart enough to think about why a parent might have chose a name or what it means. Those meanings are very nice.
asianHusseingrrl”that one”MN (11:16:07) :
Mudflatters, have not read all posts yet, so apologies if this has already been shared. Remember the black guy at the McCain/Palin rally in Wisc. yesterday imploring McCain to go after Obama? Well, according to TPM, he was a local conservative talk show host. In other words, a plant.
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Thanks, Asiangrrl. There had to be an explanation because it was so clearly “staged”.
Is a chance to redeem himself still on the table?? from ADN:
Colin Powell: Stevens reputation ’sterling’
One of the nation’s best-known retired Army generals, Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a “trusted individual” and a man with a “sterling” reputation. 11:28 AM
hHh
South FL here … waiting! Wondering if McShame has considered Viagra for his electoral numbers ? The “terrorist” crap just isn’t working… Kudos to MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow for last night’s Troopergate exposé !! AKM, can we make her and Keith Olbermann Honorary Mudpuppies ?!
As much as I hope their later opinion will say so, the order by the Alaska Supreme Court yesterday didn’t actually say that the Legislature’s investigation was fair. It only affirmed the lower court’s decision to dismiss the McCain/Palin’s lawsuit (with a further opinion to follow). Again, I hope they do eventually opine that the investigation is fair, but I suspect the ruling will be more narrow – basically, the courts (and the executive) have no business telling the co-equal branch of government, the Legislature, what they should or shouldn’t investigate.
So, I assume we’re not accepting Sarah’s report as released last night?
Mudflats only has 24 votes from the Blogger’s Choice awards. Come ON people. Clickity Click while you’re waiting!
http://bloggerschoiceawards.com/blogs/show/56962
lovethecountry AKA Rust Mustang ‘THAT ONE HUSSEIN’ (10:55:00) :
On something positive, how about we start the list of reasons we like/love Obama [From personal reasoning…
For me, Obama is beautiful. I am a white male in my 40s. I’m not gay and I’m talking about something much deeper than glamour. My definition of beauty best matches that of John O’Donohue. google him. He was an Irish poet and philosopher. During an NPR interview, host Ms. Krista Tippett asked, “… when we began to talk about beauty, you rightly said that in this culture we tend to associate beauty with glamour. And I think if you just mention the word, if you just threw it into a commonplace conversation, someone might just think of a beautiful face, of a famous beautiful face, right? I want to ask you, and want you — when you think of the word “beauty,” what pictures come into your mind?
O’Donohue ” When I think of the word “beauty,” some of the faces of those that I love come into my mind. When I think of beauty I also think of beautiful landscapes that I know. Then I think of acts of such lovely kindness that have been done to me, by people that cared for me, in bleak unsheltered times or when I needed to be loved and minded. I also think of those unknown people who are the real heroes for me, who you never hear about, who hold out on lines — on frontiers of awful want and awful situations and manage somehow to go beyond the given impoverishments and offer gifts of possibility and imagination and seeing.”
The human soul does not merely hunger for beauty, John O’Donohue believed, we feel most alive in the presence of what is beautiful. It returns us often in fleeting but sustaining moments, he said, to our highest selves. And a neglect of beauty, he believed, is at the heart of our deepest modern crisis. I guess this is why I feel such despair when I see Mrs. Palin or Mr. McCain.
I still feel bad for Trick, Winkin, Cessna, and Chattanooga or whatever their names are – imagine being in Wasilla and waiting for the verdict!
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)
Yea like the “my camp cleared me” stuff from last night.
Which if you missed it “my camp cleared me” to be in charge of the Universe
after which I banished Scarah to the black hole in the middle of the galaxy.
Texas here and all these Alaskan politics sound very familiar.
AsianHusseingrl…I KNEW it! It screamed plant. Thanks for forwarding the info!
Seriously here, folks, what happens if she skates here?
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132527
There are pics of the hearing with Palin supporters rallying. Wow…some are even dressed like clowns to depict a circus setting,
THWv (11:40:24) :
I heard this piece on NPR some time ago. It was awesome. And this understanding of beauty has stuck with me as well. I agree with you. I love Obama because he is BEAUTIFUL!! thanks so much for bringing this back to mind!
hose Hussein hotrod
do you think they could step it up a bit? geesh we’re waitin(g) here! (FOR THE GUILTY VERDICT)
Seriously here, folks, what happens if she skates here?
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does this report include the emails she would not release? if not, we still have that to look forward to. either way, it doesn’t look good for her that she did not cooperate in this. i am confident that most thinking americans are seeing right through her and mccreepy
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132527
Wow….its a Palin circus, complete with clowns.
I think if I remember right Annenberg is the second or third name to endorse Mc Grumpy. Also is the same one who introduced Obama to Ayers. Annenberg and Ayers has worked togather for years so what is Mc Grumpy’s problem? Grumpy has been told BACK OFF of Ayers by guess who……lol
I wanna see THAT REPORT ASAP!!!!!!!
“upnorth minnesota aka hose Hussein hotrod (11:34:36) :
not an expert on names…and the internet probably isn’t an authority, but here’s what I found.
Barack means blessing or blessed
Hussein means good, kind, or handsome.”
Just look at all the Husseins on this blog! We surely prove the second one is true
Oops, … “I guess this is why I feel such despair when I see Mrs. Palin or Mr. McCain.” I just want to clarify that O’Donohue did not make this conclusion, I did, however, if he were alive today I’m sure he’d feel this way too.
a new message in my inbox from obama campaign suggesting we get out there and give our own answer to the question, “Who is Barack Obama?” to undecided voters. Here’s a video they want us to look at. (apologies if all have seen this–I think my Obama mail is behind you all’s).
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fourdays
hose Hussein hotrod
@THWv
Thanks for that beautiful note :- I also think that he is beautiful , inside out. I would definitely find out more about John O’Donohue. I love reading about good people with good hearts.
I also agree with somebody who said ‘I like Obama because of this blog’, in the context that he brought some good hearted people together in one place and that so true.
I am loving the responses on this questions..It is giving me some peace in times where I hear so much hate and negetivity in the GOP campaign.
Love you all mudflatters, we got good family growing here
Dunkelrover:
Don’t worry, she can’t skate,….there’s always another ace in the deck
Baron Von Butcher (09:33:33) :
While we wait, I need help with my Halloween costume. My wife is going as Sarah Palin.
The other night, after the Obama/McCain debate, my beautiful, chestnut-haired daughter put on her boyfriend’s rectangular glasses, and I nearly fell out of my chair laughing! She looked waaaaay too much like SWMNBN!! When we all started laughing, she began imitating her and talking about how “mavericky” she was. Her boyfriend got into the act, pretending to be her pet parrot McCain, perched on her shoulder, squawking inanities. I nearly peed my pants!
Sadly, she’s already bought her pirate costume for Halloween…
I have to go look at cars after work, but will be with my Mudpuppy “family” in spirit. Praying (with fingers, toes and eyes crossed) that the AK Legislature will do the right thing and release the report…..
Grab another cup of coffee!!!!!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
I was sure that guy at the rally was a plant. It was soooo obvious. I must say this election has me swinging from laughter to shock, back to laughter, tears, shock, but watching McCain/Palin…I always end the day with laughter lol.
Doesn’t really matter what the report says. She tried to block it…nuff said! I would just like to see the commissioners mother happy, so I do hope he is vindicated in this whole mess. If this woman becomes our VP I may go back to my country of origin, the Netherlands
. Not really, I’m an American now and will continue to fight for the promise that was made to us by the people that toiled to create this great land.
I have decided that my next vacation will be Alaska. Been to Alberta, Canada and Europe, Mexico etc., but a friend of mine took a cruise to Alaska from BC this year and she has me sold. I hope the criminals don’t ruin the beauty and wildlife before I get there.
Terpsichore: I’m intrigued. Not many people know there is a Carnegie Hall in Scotland. I grew up being able to see it from my house…..
I’ll spare you the obvious joke!
megacephalus (11:25:07) :
Those are powerful observations and we thank you for sharing them here. Many of those same thought have been circling in our minds, but you have certainly crystallized
those comparisons.
Conversations here about these topics began—-weeks ago somewhere—-over the book banning. It is hard, when faced with the desire to ban books, not to follow that thought to its logical conclusion, isn’t it?
Why is there NOT a SARAH IS GUILTY PARTY OUTSIDE! This is ridiculous! She gets cronies there that support her but there are not us MUDDIES there (wish I could be there – in NYC in an office).
I always think of King Hussein of Jordan who brought peace to the middle east
derDunkerrover
Seriously here, folks, what happens if she skates here?
No big deal. They are tanking fast and their KKK rallies are getting
a lot of bad press. Even their supporters are pissed at them (did you see the
guy yesterday) yikes he yelled at John and sarah and the look on SP face was
priceless. She looked scared poopless. They had whipped the crowd into
a frenzy and then they lashed out at them. (JM/SP)
John* The Pitbull Wrangler* (11:26:26) :
One reason I love Obama is this very blog. It has brought so many people from all over the world together for the one reason. Truth and Justice for Americans. Anyone who can bring that many good people together for a good cause such as this is the right person for the job of President of the United States of America. I love you guys and I feel like one of the family that is America. We are all brothers and sisters in the cause.
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Well said. I think we all feel this way!
I voted yesterday for Mudflats…Blog of the Century! It does take patience but heck, we do seem to have a little time to kill while we wait for the report release. I am actually glad they are taking time…that tells me that there is a lot to review/absorb/discuss etc.
BTW, I hope that motorcyclist stays clear of me on the road here in Florida. Except when he goes by I will flash him and let him cause his own accident. Wouldn’t want to ruin my nice paint job, you know what I mean?
Scott(forgot my Palin name) (11:50:59) :
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Kind of a bummer, but the report is long and I can understand why they would feel the responsibility to read it and discuss it in it’s entirety before going public. Between that news and the Dow closing, there won’t be much nail-biting, obsessive, minute-by-minute stuff to watch. Damn! I’m going to have to do something productive now.
read on Huffington Post, possible leaks do not look good for Palin. They speak
of abuse, corruption etc. Hopefully the leaks are true
Hm, whatever happened to the 7 witnesses who at the last minute decided they would give depositions after all? We were worried that could delay issue of Branchflower’s report. Apparently not. Still, it might be ammo for the bad guys to say the report is incomplete.
I find it outrageous that the AK legislature is meeting in secret to decide whether the report should be released.
It is Alaskans who have suffered under the Gov. Palin administration, especially State employees who may well have had Todd Palin pawing through their private personnel files. At one point he had a “stack” of them when talking to Monagan. I cringe to think how much of Alaska State workers’ health status is known by Todd Palin, and perhaps others.
If this was California, I’d be up in Sacramento, outside the chamber doors, demanding to know why our citizens are being kept out of the proceedings.
11:50 am Alaska: Lyda Greene stepped outside room to say they were on page 20. Ohhhh, I won’t get any sleep tonight!
As we wait, the campaign gores on for Trooper John.
McCain gains Madison, gets blessing from Hefner.
In a surprise shake-up which is sure to cause a rift between McCain and Palin (and maybe the First Dude, who does have a roaming eye to go along with that crap-eatin’ grin), Moonbeam Hefner has shaken Holly Madison out of the hutch and released her for duties as a surrogate vice-presidential candidate.
Hefner, who had been forgetting far too often where he’d last parked Holly, has engaged a duo, the Shannon twins (Kristina and Karissa), to fill her side of the bed.
“These 19-year-old lovelies are much more sprightly than Miss Madison, and they assure me that they’ll fill the Mansion with so much activity that I’ll think that they’re triplets.”, a winking Hef said shyly.
“ At my age (82), a man needs all the help he can get. With just Holly in the hallways, if I could find her I’d quite often find that the Viagra wasn’t close enough at hand and I’d forget what I was up to by the time the twain would meet. With these twins playing triplets, I won’t have to worry about not having a girl close by, and I can have them micro-chipped so that I can tell Kristana from Karissa from Karla and vice versa.”
Moonbeam McCain suggested that it’d be a pleasure to have another Madison back in the White House, welcoming her with a heartfelt , “Holly, my friend, take me prisoner; I won’t break down.”
Christie was heard to mutter, “Fookin’ hell, not much of an improvement here. From the poster girl for Tourette syndrome to a pneumatic dolly. Let her wipe the drool from John’s red-satin smoking jacket if she wants to play at vice president.”
I have to leave for an appointment so maybe there will be news when I get back. On the way to the appointment, I will be dropping off my completed mail-in ballot with my vote for Obama. Yeah!!!!!!!!!
They are stalling. If they release it, it will be a classic “Friday Evening News Dump”. Late enough, they think no one will notice.
@slappy….cnn said the only part that will be held back…has to do with confidential employee information. I didnt take that to mean anything to do with Palin and her interference. I understand that they would hold certain things back, because there are some innocents who dont deserve to have all their employee info out for the world to see.
If they do release the report, and I believe they will….we will see 236 pages of information.
CNN Situation Room with Wolfe at lead of his show comments highlighted waiting for report — Will it be made public in a few hours???
via ADN..
Update 11:50 p.m.: It may be a while. Green just stepped outside again and reports they’re now on page 20 of the 200-plus page document. “Go home,” she advised.
Update 12 noon Kyle reports the Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau and the Legislative Council chairman, stepped outside for a bathroom break and was asked how it was going inside. “I’m not going to characterize it,” he said. “I’m tempted to, but I won’t.” None of the others coming and going from the room have had anything to say.
Then Jeff Turner, an aide to the Senate majority, came out and said it would be at least another hour until any official word emerges from within.